--- Log for 23.07.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 5 hours ago 00.00.02 # I think its a habit 00.00.59 # freqmod: Just a quick look, and it seems you've broken scramble.c for big-endian machines... 00.01.33 # ok, where, is it the struct? 00.02.55 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 00.03.02 # Yes. 00.04.42 # I also think it would be better to specify the rsrc filename on the command-line, rather than automatically picking it up - I never liked that in ipod_fw. 00.05.00 # oh 00.05.11 # it claims to be an e250 in recovery mode 00.05.16 # and only 17MB 00.05.31 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.06.02 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 00.09.01 # linuxstb: Ok, this should fix edian http://pastebin.ca/96414 00.12.18 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.13.02 Quit freqmod ("Goes to sleep") 00.15.45 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 00.24.20 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 00.25.21 # bagder: would you like to commit my two compact X5 patches added lately to the tracker? 00.25.48 # Did someone call me? 00.25.56 # yes, but I can't do that right now, I'm a bit busy 00.26.20 Nick dan_a is now known as dan_a_away (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 00.28.19 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 00.28.50 # brb 00.29.21 # Landus: check the logs 00.30.03 # scorche: ? 00.30.07 # scorche: There's a log? 00.30.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt 00.30.26 # errr...looks like it just rolled over 00.30.30 # aaah 00.30.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ 00.30.59 # * Bagder surfs the recovery mode waves 00.31.07 Quit TucknDar () 00.31.14 # they're slippery 00.31.49 # Bagder: are you trying to brick your e250? 00.31.59 # yeah :-) 00.32.06 # Ugh. I found it. 00.32.14 # Bagder: So, is recovery mode useful then? 00.32.20 # mucho 00.32.28 # my unit is dead except for that right now 00.32.31 # S0ap: I updated RealVNC. There was an exploit for the version I was running before I updated it. 00.32.54 # So, they're hard to brick like iPods and X5s are? 00.33.01 # not quite sure yet 00.33.10 # I didn't patch the BL file 00.33.14 # Landus - scary 00.33.28 # At first, yeah. 00.33.36 # and the amusing part is, I messed up so my test was made with a completely bad image 00.33.40 # Landus - I /really/ wouldn't rule out the idea you've been rootkited. 00.33.45 # I checked. 00.33.47 # Nothing. 00.33.50 # Bagder: So, at least it's safe from completely bad MI4s? 00.33.59 # Besides the ones that are part of Windows. 00.34.03 # yes 00.34.08 # Good to hear that much at least. 00.34.36 Quit Mmmm (Remote closed the connection) 00.34.41 Quit XavierGr () 00.34.47 # better yet if your going to use VNC...install SSH and do VNC over a tunnel 00.34.52 # Landus - read about rootkits, you can not check for them from within the compromised system. 00.35.09 # ssh tunneled VNC is always much slower for me... 00.35.16 # unit alive again 00.35.20 # the whole idea of a rootkit is that it replaces system hooks, and lies to you. 00.35.20 # ... next try 00.36.17 # BHSPitMonkey: yeah....but I trust it more than leaving a VNC port open to the internet 00.36.48 # well, I'm not doing anything incriminating over VNC ;) 00.36.52 # heh 00.36.54 Quit yip ("Leaving") 00.37.47 # S0ap: Yeah. You can. 00.37.57 # I take it as opposed to getting owned.... 00.38.00 # Rootkit Revealer won't show you all the latest ones. 00.38.12 # convience and security rarely are bedfellows :) 00.38.22 # S0ap: I never said I use Rootkit Revealer. 00.39.20 # nothing will show you all the latest ones....that's why they keep making new ones :) 00.39.24 # if you have a method of detecting rootkits w/o looking in from another OS, you could make a fortune. 00.39.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.40.01 # but sorry for the OT. 00.41.27 # yay 00.41.30 # it ruuuuns 00.42.04 # * Paul_The_Nerd cheers 00.42.28 # I now have a modified string displaying when I insert the usb ;-) 00.42.52 # That is a leet hax sir. Leet indeed. 00.43.06 # haha 00.43.35 # wha? messing around with ipodwizard? 00.43.36 # amazing how much excitement can come from such a little change =) 00.43.48 # BHSPitMonkey: Messing around with Sandisk Sansa 00.43.53 # ah 00.44.03 # I'm in and out of the conversation 00.44.08 # (mostly out) 00.44.17 # it works without patching the BL file 00.44.26 # with a "dummy" DSA signature 00.44.35 # really silly 00.45.25 # Silly or not, at least it works right? 00.45.34 # yes 00.45.45 # with the original BL file 00.47.52 # * RaeNye suggests Bagder make the MI4 display his name all over the player and upload the new version to a 0-day w4r3z site :) 00.48.01 # woooo 00.48.02 # fame! 00.48.05 # profit! 00.48.09 # :-P 00.48.15 # no profit. RB is .org 00.48.19 # darn 00.48.25 # cept make it b@dg3rr....more cool for kiddiez 00.48.25 # :) 00.48.27 # but fame 00.49.28 # * RaeNye wonders when he gets commit access so he wouldn't have to nag devs all the time 00.50.01 # * Paul_The_Nerd waits for people to show up from the forums, reading the phrase 'upgraded my e260', asking where to download the Sansa e200 build of RB... 00.50.24 # I can offer my image ;-) 00.50.36 # point them to the version I suggested above :) 00.50.36 # with a single modified swedish phrase 00.51.02 # RaeNye: Oh, by the way, I think there may be a patch for FM screen WPSes in the tracker, if you're interested in that direction. I'm not sure though. 00.51.06 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 00.52.14 Quit drippydonut (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.54.07 # RaeNye: Apparently I can't find it... I seem to remember someone doing some work in that direction at some point though. =/ 00.54.24 # paul_the_nerd: interesting, although it looks like a quick hack. I'll meddle with it once I have the player. It's 3024 00.54.40 # I think JdGordon once worked on that 00.55.09 # Yeah, that's his patch 00.56.10 # RaeNye: I just thought it might be a starting point. I certainly don't object to treating the FM Playback screen the same as the normal playback screen in terms of hierarchy, etc. 00.57.16 # and what about recording? 00.58.18 # Especially since the FM Radio menu is already the same button as the context menu (on H100s at least) 00.58.22 # As for Recording, I'm not so sure. 00.59.06 # * BHSPitMonkey wonders if recording will ever be a possibility on the 5G 00.59.11 # To the skinnability etc, that is. 00.59.26 # I have this concept of persistent screens, that is screen in which you're staying for an extended period of time 00.59.28 # As for hierarchy again it makes sense to treat it similarly to WPSes, I think. 00.59.42 # (and not because the phone just rang or you're a slow reader) 01.00.38 # I think that the Hierarchy is like this: 01.00.39 # Root->(WPS/FM/Rec)->Menu. So, when you leave the menu, it returns you to whichever of the middle ones the menu was invoked from. If it wasn't from one of those, it goes to the Root. 01.00.54 # what's root? 01.00.57 # From within the menu, the Record button should take you to the Rec screen, and the play button should resume playback if necessary and go to the WPS 01.01.02 # Root == File System 01.01.23 # and when USBOTG is implemented, where do you see it? 01.01.40 # As a virtual folder mounted in \ 01.01.50 # For UMS devices at least. 01.02.16 # enter virtual folders. why not have them for other uses? 01.02.29 # (e.g., playlist) 01.02.42 # Because a playlist can already be opened with the playlist viewer? 01.03.01 # With the USBOTG virtual folder, you're still seeing nothing but real files. 01.03.13 # If you browsed into a playlist you ask the question of virtual files. References to other ones. 01.03.37 # isn't that a playlist? 01.03.48 # Isn't what a playlist? 01.04.01 # A playlist is a list of where to find real files. 01.04.05 # a collection of references to *real* files 01.04.22 # same as USBOTG connection 01.04.26 # No 01.04.31 # The USBOTG is the addition of real files. 01.04.34 # Each file has one entry. Where it is. 01.05.18 # but that's how the camera shows it to you 01.05.27 # What do you mean? 01.05.39 # Can anyone here code in at least one computer language? 01.05.52 # a usbotg connection supplies you with a list of files 01.06.00 # landus: LOL 01.06.01 # It supplies you with a drive to mount. 01.06.09 # RaeNye: What? 01.06.30 # I think most people here are devs 01.06.40 # There is a very big difference between "A list of files that exist elsewhere" and "The list of files that exist within me" 01.07.09 # For the first, they're real files that are OUTSIDE the playlist, and you can have multiple instances of each file, one or more instances per playlist. In the other, only the real files are shown, and only exactly as many as they are, only where they are. 01.07.11 # paul_the_nerd: no... it supplies you with a list of objects and allows you to request an object 01.07.49 # From a protocol standpoint yes. But the difference is still between real files, and references to files. 01.07.55 # there's no guarantie that the objects aren't generated on the fly 01.08.06 # Okay, simplify this 01.08.16 # What is your justification for mounting playlists as folders? 01.08.35 # unified navigation 01.08.39 # How? 01.08.42 # A playlist is a file. 01.08.54 # A file that is loaded, edited, and executed, but simply a file. 01.09.06 # currently you can't examine playlist contents 01.09.09 # Paul_The_Nerd: but arn't ther plans to integrate tagcache as a virtual folder in the future? and in tagcache one file cann appear in varous places (like in a playlist) 01.09.13 # RaeNye: Yes, you can. 01.09.26 # textviewer? 01.09.32 # PaulJam: I'm against entering tagcache from the file tree 01.09.36 # there is a playlist viewer 01.09.47 # not current playlist. just a .m3u 01.09.58 # sure, current 01.10.11 # RaeNye: If you load it as a current playlist, you can then view it. This could be expanded to an "Open With" option. 01.10.16 # As well, yes, the text editor works. 01.10.32 Quit Landus ("Leaving") 01.10.34 # but just to see its contents, to decide if you want to load it 01.10.40 # Both of these treat it as a file, which is preferable because it *is* a file. 01.10.57 # Wouldn't an "Open with" choice for "Playlist Viewer" solve that? 01.11.17 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.11.34 # yes (assuming you don't overwrite current playlist) but navigation is slower 01.11.55 # But it maintains the idea that files are files. 01.12.05 # Right now, you click on a file, and it is invoked. 01.12.37 # Your idea is that some files are hidden as part of the filesystem. 01.13.03 # not necessarily hidden, just enterable as directories. 01.13.12 # But why bother to treat it as a directory? 01.13.21 # think of navigating inside a .zip 01.13.23 # There's already been a suggestion of adding a second default action to files. 01.13.31 # Clicking "Select" is one, and "Right" is the other. 01.13.35 # For Playlists, Right could be view. 01.13.46 # I like that. 01.13.51 Quit lee-qid (Connection timed out) 01.13.55 # It's very similar, but it doesn't integrate it into the filesystem. 01.14.13 # Which maintains the integrity of "Files are Files" while achieving pretty much the goal you want. 01.14.21 # yep. 01.14.41 # BTW, my original thought about USBOTG was to have this as a plugin 01.14.42 # The idea then goes on to allowing an easy one-click "Insert" option, for adding songs to the current playlist. 01.14.58 # for songs, right could also be play without modifying current playlist. :) 01.15.01 # Mounting flash cards on Ondio already works as a virtual folder. 01.15.09 # sharpe: Queue, for that. 01.15.11 # I guessed that this is where this all started 01.15.16 # :) 01.15.33 # but USBOTG is lots of code (20k+) 01.15.42 # sharpe: Ideally, the secondary default action for music files would be configurable between "Insert next, Insert Last, Insert, Queue Next, Queue Last, and Queue" 01.15.56 # indeed. 01.16.06 # But that's *my* ideal 01.16.11 # Others may have their own ideas. ;) 01.16.16 # hahah 01.16.37 # btw, for right-to-left users there should be an option to switch the notion of right and left :) 01.16.47 # right-to-left users? 01.16.55 # Oh, right 01.16.55 # hebrew, arabic, ... 01.17.03 # I figured it out 1 second before I saw that. :-P 01.17.28 # I wouldn't care (I hate localized menus), but nevertheless... 01.18.21 # wasn't there someone who had asked about flipping the pacbox display and controls, on account of that they were left handed? 01.18.23 # do all players have enough keys for dual action? 01.18.42 # RaeNye: All players so far have an 'invoke' of some sort (Select/Navi/Etc) and a Right key, I believe. 01.19.05 # sharpe: Yes, someone asked that. I told them to just play it upside down, since the mechanics and controls would work just fine. 01.19.15 # Well, gotta go to sleep. 01.19.20 # G'night all! 01.19.23 # * Paul_The_Nerd is left handed, but plays unflipped. 01.19.27 # G'night RaeNye 01.19.28 # same 01.19.30 # g'night 01.19.31 # * RaeNye snaps his finger 01.19.33 Quit RaeNye ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 01.20.01 # i don't find much of a problem being left handed either. 01.20.09 Join Bloody_Sorcerer [0] (n=BS@cpe-72-230-178-79.rochester.res.rr.com) 01.20.36 # also, another action could be invoked on a 'long' keypress of the right button. 01.21.08 # Actually, I think button-repeat on right should be removed. 01.21.08 Quit Nico_P () 01.21.20 # whyso? 01.21.34 # Right now, if I hold right, it jumps through a bunch of folders and then runs a gameboy rom. 01.21.46 # ah. 01.22.08 # I can see quickly backing out, but quickly entering and invoking is kinda dangerous, since if you forget to lock when you put it in your pocket, it's an additional way to stop playback. 01.22.29 # Though, press and hold Right could be a good way to enter FM for FM units.... 01.22.47 # could also just have an option to ignore button-repeat on the file browser... :D 01.22.58 # for right and such. 01.23.37 # hmm, i have never, held right in the file browser. 01.23.51 # Neither have I intentionally 01.23.57 # Which is why I think it'd be good for "FM" 01.24.01 # heh. 01.25.07 # Well, I'd use FM much more than recording, and recording's gonna get a button of its own. :-P 01.26.15 # hmm... what about a button re-mapping option for rockbox in general? for those users who want to choose their own keys and such... 01.27.38 # would probably only need to apply to the browser... 01.27.48 # I think that's overkill. 01.27.55 # hahah. 01.28.06 # Additional complexity + the possibility that users will make their player unusable. 01.28.07 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@193.15.23.131) 01.28.19 # yeah, that's always a problem with that. 01.28.28 # Paul_The_Nerd: why are you against having a virtual folder for tagcache? if i use tagcache i find it very annoying, that i often have to switch the fileview back to tree when i want to acess a non-music file (e.g. a .cfg or .txt file). 01.29.15 # PaulJam: My view is that from within TagCache, there should be a hard-coded entry at the top of the list "Filetree" from which you can browse the filetree. 01.30.00 # But that from within the filetree it is unnecessary to have a virtual link to the Cache. If you accessed the 'tree from TC, then you can back up back into TC, but if you're just in Filetree mode, it's unnecessary to have the link. 01.30.40 # Paul_The_Nerd: yes, this would propably be a good soulution. 01.31.20 # something is terribly wrong. my bandwidth limit seems to be, one meg. 01.32.02 # i think it's a habit of mine to put commas everywhere. 01.34.21 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 01.37.30 Part LinusN 01.43.01 # hmm, maybe another solution would be to have an entry for the other browsing method in the main menu. so if you are in tagcache mode you have an entry "Filetree" in the menu and in filetree mode the entry would be "TagCache" (if it is built). 01.43.19 # ahey, lets make an option for it. hahah... 01.45.07 # I think that having the Filetree link in the TagCache menu should pretty much cover it anyway. 01.45.20 # Rockbox + Sansa e200 series player would be sweet 01.45.41 # * scottder is sticking with flash based players, so the more the merrier :) 01.46.16 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 01.49.09 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 01.54.42 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-137-187.d4.club-internet.fr) 01.54.44 # i would still prefer having a virtual folder in filetree, because i think i would mainly use the tree for navigation and tacgcache only for special tasks like creating a playlist by genre. but i guess it's impossible to make everyone happy :) 01.58.00 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 01.58.01 # Hehehe 01.58.28 Part Paul_The_Nerd 01.58.30 # what about a virtual folder in both? 02.01.17 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-137-187.d4.club-internet.fr) 02.10.01 Quit ShyK () 02.15.37 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.17.26 Quit juxtap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.20.00 Quit lodesi ("Parti") 02.21.16 # what about a SHHHH. 02.22.06 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.23.20 Quit obo ("bye") 02.29.05 # Gah. I feel so dumb. 02.29.20 # Tried for like 15 minutes to get to the filebrowser from the play screen. 02.34.47 # don't forget about the manual. 02.35.34 # I know, I know. 02.35.44 # Just got home and the first thing I did was look it up. 02.35.45 # Again. 02.35.50 # This isn't the first time. ;) 02.39.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.45.50 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 02.53.29 # ugh, filebuf underrun = breakage... as I've learned by abusing my ipod under my motorcycle's seat. 03.02.58 # yikes 03.03.51 # * scottder keeps his nano entombed in it's aluminum case at all times and treats with gentle hands 03.04.22 # course I treated all my HD based players the same...but HDs...they just loved to die on me 03.06.56 # I use the pocket thingy I got with my iPod. 03.06.58 # i have a fetchmail setup so it forwards all my mail from my isp account to my gmail account, that works fine, so can i assume that sendmail is set up correctly? 03.07.02 # or bad assumption? 03.07.04 # Works quite nicely. 03.07.26 # JdGordon: If it works, it works, no? ;) 03.07.54 # yes, but im trying to use sendmail from the command line and its not working :'( so i need to know if sendmail is actually working or not 03.08.10 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 03.08.51 # pocket thingy? :) 03.09.01 # Yerr... 03.09.06 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 03.09.24 # It's a cloth thingy the size of the iPod. Quite a snug fit. 03.09.36 # Very cozy material, soft. 03.09.44 # Ahh....they weren't including that when I got mine 03.09.49 # Aha. 03.09.53 # and I like just keeping mine in the case 03.10.07 # Well I would probably have bought a case or a "skin" if I didn't get this. 03.10.19 # I've heard lots of horror stories about the display. 03.10.48 # pretty much the only exposed part on this is the click wheel...ports on the bottm and the hold button 03.11.00 # works for me...and was pretty cheap for a aluminum case 03.11.02 # And just having the thing on the table next to the computer (I don't have a dock) has scratched the back a tiny bit. Annoying but hardly noticeable. 03.11.21 # Ah. I expose nothing on mine. ;) 03.11.44 # The protection is soft enough to allow me to just manage the controls through it. 03.12.12 # http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10300000_2000000_191&products_id=1986&osCsid=7ed0273042f1255c3e04d5c4962cad90 03.12.34 # the lanyward is useless....but otherwise I like it 03.15.12 # Looks nice enough. 03.15.21 # I'm not too fond of the totally blank iPod look. 03.15.50 # given my druther I'd have mine "naked as well" but this gives it the pickup and go I need 03.16.08 # just throw it in my pocket with my Koss KSC-35's and headphone amp and I am good to go 03.16.33 # Extra equipment... pah. ;D 03.17.44 # very portable and great sound....works for me 03.18.18 # plus rockbox is the cherry on top...all my music encoded in ogg vorbis...Q3 is the sweet spot of sound to size 03.18.22 # for me 03.20.08 # http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Ipod_5th_Generation_white.jpg << That pic includes the protection thingy. Only mine is black, of course. ;) 03.20.48 # OGG, he says... mmyes, I don't actively encode my stuff in OGG, but I have a few tracks by Machinae Supremacy that are OGG encoded. 03.21.03 # It bugged me ALOT when the iPod couldn't play them. 03.21.32 Join konstant [0] (n=18b83a4a@labb.contactor.se) 03.22.12 # hello everyone 03.22.16 # lo 03.22.29 # i have a question 03.22.47 # how do i load the original firmware 03.23.14 # tap the screen 3 times before turning it on 03.23.30 # konstant: Well, the first thing you might want to do is tell us which player, as we don't read minds around here. 03.23.34 # konstant: on what device? 03.23.39 # ipod 03.23.40 # konstant: The second thing you might want to do is read the manual and/or FAQ for said player. 03.23.43 # I had some stuff in AAC files but I just reeneced the music....Rockbox was havving issue with them 03.23.50 # The _rockbox_ manual for said player, specifically. 03.24.38 # i tried holding the menu button once it turns on but its still rockbox not apple 03.25.01 # Then you're doing it wrong. 03.25.49 # You probably aren't holding it early enough, or are wiggling your finger, or are releasing it before it says "Loading Original Firmware" or a combination of the above. 03.27.57 # hmm 03.27.58 # i'll try that 03.28.13 # thanks , ill keep that in mind 03.28.21 Quit konstant ("CGI:IRC") 03.29.01 # I always wonder if, when they question whether holding Menu is right, they're assuming it's broken and nobody has yet noticed, or we just don't know how it works. 03.29.50 # Said Paul_The_Nerd with venom oozing from his fangs. 03.29.51 # ;) 03.30.39 # Not reading the docs/wiki/faq should hurt....in all open source projects 03.31.53 # =) 03.32.18 # holding menu? 03.32.46 Join phlipp [0] (n=41785f61@labb.contactor.se) 03.33.26 # does anyone have any experience with compiling the rockbox package? 03.33.46 # Did you have a question about it? 03.33.58 # i suspect 75% of this channel does, hopefully more ;) 03.34.10 # I am having difficulty getting a package for ubuntu that provides support for arm 03.34.19 # Bloody_Sorcerer: If you're gonna do the maths, count me out. 03.34.21 # ;) 03.34.24 # lol 03.34.25 # :) 03.35.06 # was i the only one that was going to express a reply with a tint of sarcasm among other less desirable expressions? 03.35.08 # phlipp: Try rockboxdev.sh in the /tools/ folder 03.35.09 # =P 03.35.44 # wait...that reply was tinted with sarcasm 03.35.55 # i need to idle more... 03.36.35 # we have enough idle:) 03.37.02 # thanks it looks like its working 03.37.28 # I don't suppose that could be added to the how to compile page on the rockbox website? 03.37.39 # * scottder is lazy....no experience compiling rockbox.....why bother when others will do it for me....faster than my liunx box could too :) 03.38.26 # scottder, sometimes we like to add patches and such ;) 03.38.41 # there's always the because I can part too 03.38.57 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 03.39.33 # phlipp: Well, it's still fairly new. Also, I'm not sure if it's the preferred method yet. It might be. But there's always also manually compiling the cross compilers, as well. 03.40.42 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 03.41.13 # true, the web pages I found on the matter kindof suggested that, but they were old enough that it looked like the version of gcc that I have might not have been compatible 03.43.28 # What does your version of GCC have to do with it, since it's not the version you'll be using to compile Rockbox anyway? 03.45.15 # Paul_The_Nerd: it's the gcc he'll ise yto compile the cross-compilers? 03.47.30 Part beoba 03.47.41 # 'm not going to pretend like I completely know what I'm doing, but I thought I would be using whatever arm library I could find to provide more functionality to GCC to allow it to compile for the arm architecture 03.47.42 # Yeah, but how much newer a GCC can you have than 4.0.x, which I believe is the recommended version for ARM. 03.47.44 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 03.47.54 # the pages I was looking at were talking about version 2 03.48.02 # phlipp: The CrossCompiler page specifically tells you to download the source archive you need. 03.48.19 # The only version 2 on there is binutils 2.1.6 03.48.47 # I assume you mean the rockbox source archives 03.48.49 # which I did 03.49.31 # No, the source archive of GCC... 03.49.42 # Did you actually read the page, or sorta skim it and then assume it wouldn't work? 03.50.41 # first off I'm looking at this page 03.50.49 # It pretty much talks you through the download and install every part you need. 03.50.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 03.51.11 # although closer inspection also shows this page http://www.rockbox.org/docs/how_to_compile.html 03.51.39 # And neither of those tells you how to get the cross compilers. 03.51.45 # But you said you'd read something that did. 03.51.50 Quit sidolin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.51.53 # however the latter just says "or you can download the complete source package with fonts and all from the daily build page and unpack it:" 03.52.05 # http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html 03.52.20 # What on earth pointed you there? 03.52.31 # google 03.52.32 # maybe it was something on mars. 03.52.45 # Did you try searching the *rockbox* site for cross compiler information? 03.53.05 # I assumed that I simply needed a package that I didn't have 03.53.15 # * Paul_The_Nerd points to the word "assumed" 03.53.33 # The "CrossCompiler" wiki page tells you how to properly install the Cross Compilers used to compile the various versions of Rockbox. 03.53.43 # based on the fact that the document I was reading asked to make sure I had sh-elf-gcc 03.54.56 # I confess that I didn't find nor read the crosscompiler wiki page 03.55.00 # How does that lead you to assume you should download some random package, without actually getting input into specifically what you need? 03.55.07 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs 03.55.14 # Well, do whatever you want. 03.55.51 Join webguest33 [0] (n=446d79e3@labb.contactor.se) 03.56.42 # well I've taken up enough of your collective time, thanks for the help, see you later 03.56.47 Quit phlipp ("CGI:IRC") 03.56.48 # Good luck with compiling 03.58.08 Join joelskine [0] (i=me@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861363.sympatico.ca) 03.59.49 Quit webguest33 (Client Quit) 04.02.59 # Good luck stormin the castle! 04.08.26 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 04.13.22 Part joelskine ("Leaving") 04.13.25 Quit Bloody_Sorcerer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.13.32 Join joelskine [0] (i=me@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861363.sympatico.ca) 04.13.34 Join Bloody_Sorcerer [0] (n=BS@cpe-72-230-178-79.rochester.res.rr.com) 04.14.09 # s/Good luck/Have fun 04.14.10 # ;) 04.17.12 Nick Bloody_Sorcerer is now known as BloodySorcerer (n=BS@cpe-72-230-178-79.rochester.res.rr.com) 04.20.00 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 04.20.18 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.20.40 Quit Rick (Client Quit) 04.20.54 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.39.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.42.08 Quit gursikh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.54.26 Nick excitatory___ is now known as excitatory (n=excitato@70.94.13.227) 04.56.53 Quit scorche ("Leaving") 04.58.58 # Paul_The_Nerd: wu? 04.59.17 Quit orthogonal_away ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 04.59.33 # Wu? 04.59.50 # * Paul_The_Nerd is confused by the drive-by wu-ing. 05.00.11 # HAHA. 05.01.51 # * Paul_The_Nerd is perhaps too easily confused. 05.02.19 # i understood it fully. 05.03.40 # I'm trying to figure out if it's in reference to the ancient Chinese dynasty, or some sort of abbreviation for "whut up" or something equally arcane. None of these make sense in this channel's context, though. 05.04.00 # haha. 05.04.22 # Wu Ti 05.04.35 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.05.01 Quit PaulJam (".") 05.11.00 # * Paul_The_Nerd goes back into the darkness. 05.11.06 # would any1 like to to a php frontend for my automated build system for me?> 05.12.19 # all i need is a drop list with the targets, a text thing for an email and a big text thing for a list of the patches they want applied.. 05.12.25 # * JdGordon hates html/php :'( 05.14.09 # silence.... 05.14.54 # I'm happy with PHP, not fond of HTML. It's an odd state to be in. 05.15.10 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACAE901E.ipt.aol.com) 05.15.32 # Paul_The_Nerd: Shared by a programmer friend of mine. 05.15.43 # I personally manage quite fine with both. ;> 05.16.03 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 05.17.13 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.18.41 # I hate HTML forms. 05.18.54 # That's really the only part I hate. 05.19.18 # =) 05.19.19 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-18-144.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 05.19.38 # Paul_The_Nerd: what are you saying? All your PHP ends up generating (X)HTML code... 05.19.44 # I'm more of a design monkey though. Forms don't really bother me. 05.20.30 # bagawk: Actually, most of the PHP work I've ended up doing was using GDI. 05.21.51 # GD 05.22.02 # Ugh 05.22.05 # Whatever. 05.22.10 # I can't even seem to remember its name right now. 05.22.15 # Paul_The_Nerd: ? 05.22.24 # Whatever that stupid graphics library was called. 05.22.45 # All the PHP I did actually outputted PNG images based on input by forms created by other people. 05.23.13 # ohh 05.23.58 # I remember that library 05.25.36 # I have been playing with ruby on rails lately 05.26.00 # If you really don't want to write much HTML, it is nice 05.27.08 # And ruby is 100% object oriented :) 05.27.20 # even say the number 10 is an object in ruby 05.28.51 # Hm. My current PHP project is kinda GD heavy. =) 05.29.19 # so, back to my quesiton... can i get one of you to do the php for me please? :p 05.30.14 # It's quite possible I'd love to. But I'm stretched for time as it is. 05.31.38 # bagawk: I'm actually not quite fond of overly object oriented stuff, at the moment. 05.33.56 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 05.36.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: i would say ruby/small talk OO is not "overly" but "real" 05.37.01 # it's way less heavy than the popularlized variant we encounter more frequently 05.37.16 # (not that I think it is perfect) 05.46.03 # * JdGordon obviously hasnt been taught OO properly, i dnt really like it 05.46.21 # C++/Java is broken OO 05.46.47 # if you want to understand the point of it, you should play with a fine grained single tree oo language 05.47.01 Join BigMac [0] (n=dummeska@64-252-104-114.adsl.snet.net) 05.47.24 # anyone here ever made a wps 05.47.38 # * JdGordon once 05.47.49 # back in the days before they went fancy with pics n stuff 05.48.34 # oh well mine is fancy 05.48.36 # http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/JellyFish1024.jpg 05.48.48 # i want to put that as a wps background 05.49.10 # that shouldnt be hard 05.49.15 # really 05.49.30 # i want to do it as a bacground in jblackglass 05.49.48 # what should i read up on if i want to take on the task 05.49.51 # either save it as backgounrd.bmp (or whatevr that wps is expecting) 05.49.59 # Scale it to the appropriate size, save it as a 24-bit bitmap, and change the %X tag to point to it... 05.50.00 # or change the wps file to point to that bmp instead 05.50.44 # what size does it need to be scaled to? 05.51.13 # The resolution of your screen. 05.51.20 # What iPod do you have? 05.51.27 # 5g 05.51.37 # 320x240 05.51.53 # PTN, nice assumption on the ipod there :) 05.52.25 # BloodySorcerer: I remembered him having an iPod from earlier, but was only about 80% sure it was 5G 05.52.30 # ah 05.52.42 # in that case, nice memory :) 05.53.13 # were is should i save the file? 05.53.21 # in .rockbox? 05.53.24 # BloodySorcerer: na, your right... its fairly easy to guess who has an ipod or not by their questions... but BigMac has been here before so not a real guess 05.53.31 # hehe 05.53.32 # :) 05.53.46 # BigMac: ususally .rockbox/wps/ 05.53.55 # thank you 05.54.23 # so i just save it over a current bmp 05.54.31 # there is probably a background.bmp there to save over 05.55.10 # in wps i have all the themes folders but i cant find a backgroung .bmp in there anywere 05.55.36 # all the b's are bat 05.55.40 # in the wps/ fodler there is no background.bmp or similar ? 05.56.07 # BigMac: Well, there's probably a BMP it uses for the background. Just look for the one with the biggest file size. 05.56.32 # in the backdrops folder there is some bmps with the theme names 05.56.39 # but none in the wps folder 05.56.45 # * Paul_The_Nerd sighs. 05.56.53 # In the WPS folder, there should be another folder with your theme's name 05.56.55 # Go into that 05.57.05 # Then save it over the largest .bmp file there. 05.58.43 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.58.48 # ok it is bg but that has all the blackglass bars on it, do i need that all on this pic? or does it configure itself? 05.59.16 # like the pause bar and stuff 05.59.45 # its prob bg 06.00.03 # JdGordon: What did you want that PHP thing to do? 06.00.10 # BigMac: You need anything you want to have. 06.00.13 # and it probably puts other bmps over the bg, so if your bg doesnt have them its no real big deal 06.00.23 # ok 06.00.28 # aliask: dump some info from a form to a txt file 06.00.37 # well im making a backup of the bg file just in case 06.00.38 # ive got someone doing it already :) 06.00.51 # Ok then, I love PHP though :) 06.00.58 # cept in js i tihnk, so i might change it to php if its no good 06.01.11 # hehe, ill keep u in mind if that happens 06.01.31 # and where is the file were i have to change %x 06.01.39 # %X not %x 06.01.41 # u dont if u kept the filename 06.01.47 # ok 06.01.47 # There's only one %X, and you don't have to change it if you saved over the old file 06.01.49 # i mean i you overwrote the bg file 06.01.54 # k 06.02.03 # ill test it now 06.04.03 # * JdGordon wonders how many idiots are gonna try emaling my dummy email because of problems with the auto build system :) 06.06.25 # somewhere between 0 and 25 i'd wager. 06.07.03 # k the screen came up but it doesnt look right 06.07.19 # the bar is all meessed up and the text is everywere 06.07.45 # parts of it are missing 06.07.50 # well ye 06.07.52 # and the top bar is gone 06.07.58 # they were parts of the orgional background 06.08.11 # the bottom bar is up 06.08.29 # well how do i make it so it looks like it did before 06.08.35 # cept with this picture 06.08.49 # does the origional one have pink all over it? 06.09.01 # no i dont think so 06.09.02 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 06.09.17 # ok, well u need to copy the missing bits onto your bg 06.09.27 # also and pink bits need to be copied too 06.09.28 # Hrm, I think someone should look at this, the 100 Most recent changes page (for the wiki) is broken. (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MoreRecentChanges) 06.09.34 # and they have to be pixel perfect 06.09.48 # yah like thatll happen sigh 06.09.59 # aliask: works here 06.10.22 # Are you getting the latest ones though? On that page I'm getting only up to the 20th 06.10.34 # is their anyway i can take a screenshot of it 06.10.42 # 13 Jul 2005 - 01:37 UserListByPhotograph TWikiContributor is the last one 06.11.10 # BigMac: You *really* should get around to reading the manual some day. The Screen Dump should be mentioned in it. 06.11.20 Quit grimman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.11.30 # aliask: still wanna do that php page? 06.11.34 # Sure 06.12.06 Join grimman [0] (i=sco@h208n1fls35o916.telia.com) 06.12.36 # :) all i need is a form which has a text field for email, a drop list and some way to get lots of text from the user, it all needs to be appended to the file BUILDS 06.12.54 # i dont think thats hard but its beyond me atm :p 06.13.05 # Ok, shouldn't be a problem 06.13.11 # cheers :) 06.13.14 # .manual doesnt work 06.14.21 # How do you mean "doesn't work? 06.14.41 # The requested URL /manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060617.pdf was not found on this server. 06.14.46 # Hm, it works for me. 06.15.00 # But the screendump feature apparently isn't in the manual anyway 06.15.07 # I wonder if that's intentional 06.15.32 # Anyway, there' a screendump option in the debug menu. Enable it, and when you plug in USB, it takes a screenshot instead of connecting. Disable it when you need normal USB again 06.17.36 # and were does it put the image 06.18.50 # in the root of the hdd 06.18.54 # / 06.20.56 # http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/dump060723-001758.jpg 06.21.06 # thats what it looks like 06.21.12 # now what can i do to fix it 06.21.14 # that looks ok 06.21.20 # how do u want to fix it? 06.21.29 # the backgorund looks fine 06.21.40 # but all the bars are broken 06.21.57 # copy the bars from the origional bmp onto your new background 06.21.58 # and the text is off to far to one side 06.23.03 # what can i do to get the bar back 06.24.45 # He's already told you 06.24.46 # More than once 06.24.51 # Copy the bar from the original bmp. 06.25.04 Quit JoeBorn (Nick collision from services.) 06.25.10 Nick JoeyBorn is now known as JoeBorn (n=rootmeis@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 06.25.15 # yah im doing that now. 06.25.22 Join blackvd [0] (i=1000@c-71-198-82-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 06.25.23 # im talking about the bottom bar 06.25.33 # It applies to both of them... 06.25.43 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.26.52 # by copying the top bar it fixes the bottom bar 06.27.11 # No, by copying the bottom bar it fixes the bottom bar. 06.31.27 Part blackvd 06.39.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.47.08 # anyone know of a program or someone who could make the background to this transparent http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/captain_america_01.jpg 06.49.10 # You mean the black bits? 06.50.48 # yah the black outside 06.51.55 # Fill it with 255, 0, 255 (used as the transparent color in RockBox) 06.51.55 Join Doomed [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 06.52.02 # See the CustomWPS page. 06.52.22 # hey i have a question about tag cache 06.53.24 # * Paul_The_Nerd waits for the question. 06.53.31 # haha. 06.53.56 # if i have a various artist album, after i click sort by artist, will it come up as Various Artists > name of album > and when i click the song, the song will have the ID3 of the song with the right artist name? 06.54.04 # I like the people who say "Hey, can I ask a question?" because I'm sorely tempted to tell them "Sorry, limit's 1, so you're all used up." 06.54.34 # lol 06.54.43 # Doomed: TagCache does not yet recognized multi-artist albums as being a single album with multiple artists, but instead sees them as multiple albums of the same name by different artists, and scatters the songs. 06.55.01 # no i want it so it is transparent here so i can paste it on top of my current design 06.55.07 # otherwise it would cover it 06.55.08 # ah ok 06.55.16 # It would be somewhat difficult to resolve it to work the other way since we can't reliably expect all songs from an artist to be in the same folder or anything 06.55.34 # true 06.55.37 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzzzz") 06.55.39 # BigMac: I just TOLD you how to make the black parts transparent. 06.55.41 # im trying to think of a way to do this 06.55.56 # yah but that would be transparent in rockbox 06.56.10 # Doomed: Name the artist "Various" then create a tree that goes "Artist > Composer" and set it in their composer tag? 06.56.16 # then i wouldnt be able to se the background under it. 06.56.28 # it would just be clear all around it 06.56.53 # BigMac: Oh, you want to add it into the backdrop. You can even use the lasso in Paint to cut a circle out... 06.57.15 # In more advanced programs you could select all the black, then invert the selection 06.57.16 # i didnt understand that, but it could scan Album artist first right?.. 06.57.28 # Doomed: Huh? 06.57.34 # nvm im lost 06.57.34 # lol 06.57.46 # In TagCache you can create your own sorts. 06.57.53 # Put all the artists in the "Composer" tag on the songs 06.57.57 # tutorial anywhere? 06.58.01 # Then, put the Artist tag as simply saying "Various" 06.58.13 # i dont think there is a lasso in paint 06.58.23 # No tutorial because the format's not set. Open up tagnavi.config in any text editor and it should be a relatively clear syntax 06.58.23 # it just has rectangular select 06.58.36 # ok ill try that when i find my mp3 player 06.58.39 # BigMac: It also has a linear select 06.58.53 # BigMac: Which can be used for your purposes if you can't be bothered to use a better program. 06.59.26 # i would if i could. i don't have a job to buy programs 06.59.48 # There are free image editing programs that are suitable as well. 06.59.53 # But just use the line select. 06.59.53 # cough download PS CS2 cough 07.00.13 # Doomed: Please don't suggest people pirate software in here. 07.00.24 # i don't like gimp 07.00.25 # lol ok 07.00.52 # BigMac: So use paint. 07.01.07 # i am 07.01.16 # but when i use the other select 07.01.23 # it stil selects a box 07.01.48 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs 07.01.51 # Then paint sucks horribly 07.01.59 # Copy it in boxes, or use a better program 07.01.59 Quit BloodySorcerer ("Leaving") 07.02.22 # once again i would if i could 07.02.27 # You can 07.02.29 # You choose not to. 07.02.33 # There's a difference. 07.03.34 # no i can't 07.03.39 # i cannot use gimp 07.03.49 # You physically can. You can click a mouse. 07.03.53 # and i can't afford to buy a better imaging software 07.03.53 # You will not use gimp. 07.05.33 # One solution is to create a WPS with JUST the backdrop and the image, with the transparent color filled in, no text or anything, and then save a screendump of that WPS. 07.06.32 # does anyone want to test my build-your-own-rockbox page? 07.06.42 # http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php 07.07.25 # jd i have a question 07.07.34 # I swear, if I get support requests for the ouput of that, I'm coming for YOU JdGordon 07.07.37 # could you apply a patch to a build 07.07.57 # BigMac: thats the whole point of that page :) 07.08.01 # hehe Paul_The_Nerd 07.09.11 # ok so if i say wanted a patch applied to jbuild, youd do it 07.09.24 # Not applied to jbuild... 07.09.36 # That page is for automatically applying patches from the tracker to a normal Rockbox build. 07.09.46 # BigMac: no, find the url of the patch you want, goto that link and fill in the details and wait :) 07.10.00 # ah nvm. i like my jblackglass 07.11.41 # well i found out i have a copy of image ready on my comp 07.12.15 # is their any better way to select a circular object to copy the lasso because it is quite hard to stay steady with it 07.13.26 # JdGordon: i had that same idea a while ago... 07.13.44 # :) beat ya to it 07.13.49 # yep :) 07.14.01 # its actually the very first perl script apart from assignments that actually does sometinhg :p 07.14.04 # NO I HAD THAT IDEA BEFORE ANY OF YOU I WIN 07.14.16 # midkay: nobody cares. 07.14.41 # nobody cares that YOU "thought of it before him". which is why i mocked you! 07.14.50 Join Harry [0] (n=Harry@CPE00045a78ee3c-CM000f9f7d5f54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 07.14.53 # yo 07.15.27 # BigMac: I already told you another way to do it, using Rockbox, that's much easier than lasso, but not quite as easy as color-based selection 07.15.27 # anything new 07.15.31 # i didn't want anybody to care; i was just informing him that i had a similar idea. 07.15.34 # Harry: See the changelog. 07.16.18 # paul: like i said before that would make the bakgroung trans parent in rockbox showing nothing. i want it to show the image behind it 07.16.20 # >:o 07.16.57 # i was just informing you that i had a similar one too. 07.17.03 # BigMac: Did you read the SECOND method I said for doing it. 07.17.09 # It would do EXACTLY what you said you wanted. 07.17.13 # Harry: Why the ugly face? 07.17.18 # i was informing you that nobody cared about you. 07.17.21 # lmao 07.17.39 # its a angry/suprised face paul 07.17.45 # Yes, and why? 07.17.48 # so its either transparent or lasso 07.17.52 # BigMac: No. 07.18.04 # i dont want to see change log 07.18.05 # BigMac: You aren't listening. The second method I told you will get you *exactly* what you want as a backdrop image. 07.18.06 # lol 07.18.12 # Harry: Then don't ask what's new. 07.18.19 # lol 07.18.40 # >:( 07.19.34 # JdGordon: I like the no support available anywhere bit. ;) 07.20.02 # paul wats new 07.20.10 # :) 07.20.12 # since the freeze lift 07.20.24 # See the changelog. 07.20.31 # o comon 07.20.45 # You can read it just as well as I can. 07.20.45 # copy paste here 07.20.49 # sigh.. 07.21.01 # I'm not gonna bloody flood the channel just so you don't have to open a web browser window 07.21.39 # it's prettier on the site anyways.. you could read it, or you could stop asking. the last one especially would be ideal. 07.21.52 # i'm waiting for that one question of his... 07.22.28 Join midgey34 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 07.22.37 # JdGordon: prepare for build overload while i open about ten tabs and request builds in each ;) 07.22.48 # thats ok 07.22.56 # ill just erase the build que 07.23.04 # i dont think its set to run for a few hours anyway 07.23.05 # .. as well as any other innocent users' requests! 07.23.23 # mwuhuhuahaHAhahaHeheeheHEhEhehe. 07.23.31 # i'll just pick random patches... 07.23.33 # ye, next run is 3.5 hours 07.23.46 # please do.. i want to test it prooperly... 07.23.46 Quit Febs (Connection reset by peer) 07.24.27 # haha. 07.25.25 # yes, the page looks retarted atm... 07.25.32 # yeah, kinda. 07.26.08 # JdGordon: you need a logo don't you. 07.26.33 # not really, but i wont pass one up if one is offered :) 07.27.01 # sigh, if you INSIST so HEAVILY. 07.27.19 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 07.27.37 # would i still be able to use my jblackglass based theme without jbuild 07.27.51 # Paul_The_Nerd: btw, did you ever get forum FTP access? 07.27.57 # BigMac: No 07.28.00 # midkay: No as well 07.28.03 # BigMac: only if you use a build with the same patches the theme requires. 07.28.09 # Paul_The_Nerd: ah. :( 07.29.32 # aww 07.29.36 # oh well 07.29.50 # ill just have to wait till he applies all the patches i want 07.31.07 # BigMac: use my link 07.31.22 # i want to 07.31.38 # JdGordon: Julius' patches aren't in the tracker anyway 07.31.40 # but i don't know all the patches i need to keep my wps working 07.31.54 # oh, well that sux 07.31.59 # yah i guess 07.32.23 # but the theme is amazing and that is mainly what i use my pod for anyway 07.33.54 # done! 07.34.04 # now to get it moved to the rockbox sevrers :p 07.35.09 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 07.36.20 # JdGordon: what is the purpose for the short_name/long description? 07.37.24 # short name is the filename the patch is saved to loaclly, coz im lazy 07.37.38 # long name is what is in the description f the build when its done 07.38.00 Quit Febs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.38.06 # im planning on making it so it can save patches so it doesnt have to download them al again every build 07.38.37 Quit Harry (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.38.38 # the paypal link on it btw is to rockbox.org not me... 07.38.43 # incase anyone cares 07.39.32 # hahah. 07.39.55 # Send me cash if you want my nesxt patch 07.40.37 # haha. 07.40.43 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 07.40.47 # I'm serious midkay 07.40.54 # I'll put for down for $10 07.40.54 # what is it? 07.40.57 # haha. 07.41.01 # I'll put YOU for down for $10 07.41.05 # :(((( 07.41.24 # Um, my next is probbaly a highly optimized memcpy for ipods 07.41.34 # nice. 07.41.39 # earHertz: i'll take you up on that offer of putting midkay down. 07.41.48 # It's already done, I just donm't want to release it yet 07.41.51 # cause you can't yourself!?!? 07.42.01 # sharpe: ten bucks and I'll call him a doody-head 07.42.09 # lol 07.42.12 # hahaha. 07.42.14 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 07.42.31 # JdGordon! 07.42.33 # actually i meant putting him down as in you know, taking his life. 07.42.36 # http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2535/rbbyovp6.png 07.42.48 # as you would with a dog, you mean. 07.42.52 # sharpe: he HAS a life? 07.43.02 # like you've been threatened with so many times. 07.43.03 # earHertz: well, we'll find out. 07.43.06 # midkay: awesome :D thanx 07.43.15 # JdGordon: hooray! 07.43.16 # :DDD 07.43.24 # midkay: "Build Your Own"? 07.43.32 # earHertz: JdGordon's new page.. 07.43.40 # "build your own rockbox" with a specified patch. 07.43.47 # * earHertz suggests adding "Or Pay the devs" 07.43.53 # not a specified patch... multiple patches... 07.43.54 # you submit one and apparently it's compiled automatically and sent to your email. 07.43.55 # haha. 07.43.58 # earHertz: It's a form that lets you line up a series of patches from the tracker, and lets an automate build system take a crack at it. 07.44.03 # JdGordon: right, that.. cool. 07.44.08 # Huh 07.44.41 # JdGordon: how will you control for incompatibel patches, ort patches that only work on certain devices 07.44.42 # ? 07.45.07 # "patching failed, do it yourself"? 07.45.08 # christy, creating an index on 42M rows should not takle this long 07.45.08 # :) 07.45.11 # well if a patch doesnt apply cleanly he build is rejected 07.45.35 # and for patches that only work ob device X, there shouls be an ifdef 07.46.05 # ye 07.46.12 # uh oh... somethin not workign :p 07.46.19 # * earHertz smacks JdGordon with a large fish 07.46.20 # JdGordon: problems? 07.46.23 Join webguest56 [0] (n=3d45f96b@labb.contactor.se) 07.46.30 # He can't spell "yes" ;) 07.46.36 # ah. 07.46.45 # ye 07.46.46 # sharpe: ye, my perl script just decided to stop working :'( 07.46.58 # ooh 07.47.07 # what'd midkay do? 07.47.14 # yes, the error is "unexpected end of affirmative" 07.47.16 # hello, is there a website where i can download all the themes and crap? 07.47.24 # haha. 07.47.51 # webguest56: the main site, or look in teh forum for themes 07.47.56 # for crap, schiesse.de 07.48.35 # ahah. 07.49.26 # Heh 07.52.06 # he midkay what to do me a fasvor? 07.52.42 # what. maybe! 07.52.56 # okay another problem 07.53.03 # i got all the images set 07.53.08 # you cock is too smal on teh ipod 07.53.13 # and it looks great on the computer 07.53.18 # CLOCK 07.53.32 # earHertz: yes, i know. 07.53.35 # but when it is on the pod everything is all messed up 07.53.40 # im uploading a pic now 07.53.44 # well. i'm going to sleep. g'night. 07.53.52 # I use the thingaas a watch. Could you make int bigre? 07.53.57 # karl (aka kkurbjun) did some work towards adapting to lcd size.. 07.54.14 # HELLO guys 07.54.16 # i still have some left to do. 07.54.51 # earHertz: soon, i think. 07.55.03 # haven't coded in a while, when i finish this hl2dm map i can get back to it. 07.55.09 # http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/dump060723-015210.jpg 07.55.09 Quit webguest56 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.55.12 # there 07.55.18 # look at the bootom bar 07.55.31 # and how the top bar is all messed up 07.55.32 # bottom 07.55.33 # Jungti1234: it's "Helloohl2dm maop? 07.55.43 # hl2dm maop? 07.56.00 # haha.. 07.56.05 # what's mean.. 07.56.14 # typo 07.56.17 # BigMac: You probably didn't put them in exactly the right place. You know it probably would've been easier to just paste a rectangle of your background on top of the existing background image. 07.56.42 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 07.56.44 # hmm good idea 07.56.44 # earHertz: half-life 2 deathmatch. 07.57.03 # oh, jeez. I thought you meant a .map file or something 07.57.07 # haha. 07.57.14 # yes, i'm.. writing a .map file.. ;) 07.57.22 # wwell, maybe a maopping 07.57.32 # kidding, sire! 07.58.36 Join Doomed_ [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 07.58.50 # but anyways. kkurbjun got analog mode, digital mode, lcd mode scaled correctly IIRC. i need to work on bitmaps for binary and plain mode, fullscreen mode might be thrown out, and then just some menu scaling. if he hasn't done that yet. 07.59.07 # I like fullscreen 07.59.30 # ok, wierd perl problem... http://pastebin.ca/96804 .. if i comment out the cat /dev/null line it works fine, if i leave it $#instructions becomes -1?? (i need to clear $build_instructions as soon as its all read) 07.59.42 # earHertz: alright then, maybe i can come up with an algorithm to generate it. :) 07.59.51 # thx 08.00.16 # sure, no guarantees.. nor any timewise. :) 08.01.48 # ok two more problems but theyll havta wait till the am 08.02.04 # no perl gurus here aye? 08.05.20 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 08.05.24 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@b148076.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 08.06.16 # dhouldn't it be @buiold_instructions? 08.12.30 # what the hell, why can't you just undef($build_instructions) 08.13.04 # $build_instructions is the filename of the txt file i need to blank after its been read 08.13.26 # @instructions is the array the txt file gets read into first 08.13.47 # well, fine, the perl way would be to open a write filehandle to $build_instructions 08.13.52 # and write the empty string to it 08.14.37 # bah, ok, ill do that and stop being lazy :p 08.14.56 # "If MODE is '>', the file is truncated and opened for output" 08.15.00 # from perldoc -f open 08.15.07 # so it looks like it only needs one line 08.15.39 # open BUILDINFOS, '>', $build_instructions 08.16.34 Quit Doomed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.16.55 # did that, gets the same problem 08.17.59 # #!/usr/bin/perl 08.17.59 # $build_instructions = 'test'; 08.17.59 # open BUILDINFOS, '>', $build_instructions; 08.18.03 # hmm... ok problem is elsewere 08.18.05 # this file runs successfully for me 08.18.29 # it blanks the contents of test 08.22.38 Join pinkskin [0] (n=7cba080a@labb.contactor.se) 08.25.10 Quit earHertz ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 08.25.41 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 08.30.33 # hi 08.31.50 # yay, i tinhk its all working again :) 08.32.42 Part midgey34 08.33.17 # grr... it was bloody perl needing a empty line at the end of the file !!!! 08.35.42 Quit pinkskin ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.36.56 # ok, we are all working great now... 08.37.03 # http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php <- test me!!!! 08.37.07 Part Paul_The_Nerd 08.37.09 # use and abuse me!!! 08.37.16 # well. the link... 08.37.29 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 08.38.52 # wow. my opc can run winsdows, ubuntu in a vm, ms sql server, pg sql server, my sql sql server, teh gui clients for all three, and firefox. and only open office and acrobat slow down 08.39.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.11.41 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.19.08 # grr... how do u jumpp out of an inner loop to the start of an outer loop in perl? i remener learning it but forgot! 09.22.29 # dw, got it :) 09.24.02 Join blackvd [0] (i=1000@c-71-198-82-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 09.24.22 Part blackvd 09.26.28 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.44.26 Join raymondjtroth [0] (n=40e9fb3c@labb.contactor.se) 09.44.47 # wuill rock box firmeware work 09.44.51 # on ipod shuffle 09.44.53 # ? 09.45.55 # no 09.46.33 Quit raymondjtroth (Client Quit) 09.46.47 # * scorche wonders how rockbox would alter a shuffle 09.48.01 # and good morning Bagder ...might wanna take away the away tag now that you have exposed yourself ;) 09.48.02 # voice menus could allow playlists/navigation.. 09.48.22 # midkay: yeah...but what else? 09.48.34 # Doom in mud format so it can be read? =P 09.48.37 # that's major in itself.. 09.48.39 # haha. 09.56.13 # ho hum 09.56.42 # hey Bagder, wd on the e200 :) 09.59.05 Join Doomed [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 10.00.13 Quit Poka64 ("XChat 2.6.4 - www.xchat.org") 10.04.49 # earHertz: you around? 10.05.34 # what happened to going to sleep a few hours ago, sharpe? 10.05.37 # in a sec 10.06.00 # midkay: i dunno. 10.06.07 # this faker. 10.06.33 # ah, here we go, guilt is what kept me awake. 10.06.50 # guilt? about what? 10.07.06 # ah, nothing. 10.07.19 # midkay: you know better...'twas a sharpei joke 10.07.38 # sigh, another of those.. 10.08.56 # yep. 10.12.06 # earHertz: i just thought i'd let you know, i randomly started to work on the malloc/free implementations for like, fifteen minutes and they're working now. 10.12.40 # huh 10.12.54 # the malloc stuff you helped me with works. 10.14.52 # does anything that earhertz *didn't* help you with work yet? 10.14.53 # =P 10.15.18 # yeah. the rest of the kernel. 10.15.21 # :) 10.15.41 # as in, stuff that earHertz *did not* help you with. 10.15.45 # scorche: I gave him a few pointers and none of it original to me 10.15.48 # :D 10.15.58 # midkay says: 10.15.58 # i was just thinking after writing that to you.. 10.15.58 # midkay says: 10.15.58 DBUG Enqueued KICK scorche 10.15.58 # that you'd paste it in #rockbox. 10.15.59 # midkay says: 10.16.01 # with my name and stuff. 10.16.10 Part midkay ("Leaving") 10.16.12 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@062016145077.customer.alfanett.no) 10.16.16 # owned... 10.16.38 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.17.13 Quit Doomed_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.19.28 # how would that be embarassing ? 10.20.09 # be like. 10.20.09 # midkay says: 10.20.09 # "does anything that earhertz *didn't* help you with work yet?" 10.20.09 *** Alert Mode level 1 10.20.09 # midkay says: 10.20.10 *** Alert Mode level 2 10.20.10 # haha. 10.20.12 # midkay says: 10.20.14 # i was just thinking after writing that to you.. 10.20.16 # midkay says: 10.20.18 # that you'd paste it in #rockbox. 10.20.18 # ah. 10.20.20 # midkay says: 10.20.22 # with my name and stuff. 10.20.24 # «ScorchE» Blah. says: 10.20.26 # well 10.20.28 # midkay says: 10.20.32 # and what excuse i'd use or something. 10.20.34 # «ScorchE» Blah. says: 10.20.36 # i was gonna do 10.20.38 # midkay says: 10.20.40 # haha. 10.20.42 # midkay says: 10.20.44 # asshole. 10.20.46 # midkay says: 10.20.48 # DON'T YOU DARE SAY 10.20.50 # midkay says: 10.20.52 # MIDKAY TOLD ME TO 10.20.54 # midkay says: 10.20.56 # you FUCKING BITCH. 10.20.58 # midkay says: 10.21.02 # gah. 10.21.04 # «ScorchE» Blah. says: 10.21.06 # oh god...do you have any idea how much i am laughing right now? 10.21.08 # midkay says: 10.21.10 # i'll stab you. 10.21.12 # midkay says: 10.21.14 # not more than me. 10.21.16 # midkay says: 10.21.18 # well. watch your back or you might get a phone call in the middle of "womenz". 10.21.20 # «ScorchE» Blah. says: 10.21.22 # haha 10.21.24 # «ScorchE» Blah. says: 10.21.26 # luser 10.21.28 # midkay says: 10.21.31 # pasting the whole thing isn't really neccessary... 10.21.32 # and/or several IMs. 10.21.34 # midkay says: 10.21.36 # if i can't get it at least i can ruin it for you! 10.21.38 # ugh 10.21.40 # i hate /msg in xchat 10.21.42 # veryy sorry >_> 10.21.45 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 10.21.46 # it is to get a whole understanding =) 10.21.55 # lol. 10.21.58 # ahh 10.22.00 # i said it. 10.22.00 # but i *so* did not mean to put that in here 10.22.16 # well. now we just have to wait. 10.22.20 # for? 10.22.26 # someone to complain. 10.22.32 # Zagor to come yell at me for clogging up the logs? =P 10.22.37 # exactly. 10.23.05 # that's what i was thinking actually. i had checked the userlist to see if he was on, when i wondered why he didn't op himself... 10.23.50 # maybe they will understand that i _always_ for get that xchat handles /msg that way? 10.23.58 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 10.23.58 # * scorche puts on the bambi eyes 10.24.07 # * scorche combines for and get 10.25.42 # interesting....apparently, i made logbot go to "Alert Mode level 2" with that...om..."misunderstanding" 10.26.54 Quit mordov (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.28.10 Quit Jungti1234 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.29.31 # ugh...i cant believe i did that... 10.29.41 # nor can i. 10.30.03 # =( 10.30.11 *** Alert Mode OFF 10.32.21 Join DoubleThink2 [0] (n=Winchest@c211-28-55-23.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.32.38 # ok, any one need me? 10.33.01 # put me out of my misery? 10.33.40 # earHertz: ah. any clue why i have problems with writing to virtual memory after it is mapped to a physical address? :-D 10.34.09 # what's teh probeklem/ 10.35.04 # well, when i write to a virtual address, it would seem to write correctly, as after reading the values written, they seem legitimate. but after reading the values a second time, they're not there at all. 10.36.29 # then your map has failed, ort you've overwritten the values 10.36.43 # is teh actual addres teh same on rt write, the first read, anfd teh second? 10.36.54 # yeah... 10.37.04 # you're sure/ 10.37.18 # "0xc0000000 = { 4, ffffffff }; 0xc0000000 = { -1, ffffffff }" 10.37.24 # is the two messages printed 10.37.36 # yeah, what's that mean? 10.38.18 # address of header = { length, data } 10.38.53 # oh 10.39.04 # you're overwriting length 10.39.22 # is length at teh beginnign or the end of teh mmeory you give to the caller? 10.39.49 # length isn't actually given to the caller, the address of data is... 10.39.54 # yeah, I know 10.39.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.40.10 # but is length at an adress priortr to or after the address teh caller gets 10.40.16 # but i really don't think it's overwriting it, as the messages are printed one after another. 10.40.31 # well, -1 is ffffff 10.40.43 # the length in this case is at c0000000... 10.40.59 # and what does teh caller get? 10.41.05 # c0000004 10.41.50 # it's not an endian issue 10.41.59 # I don't thinkl 10.42.00 # nope... 10.42.07 # can you step through in a debugger? 10.42.31 # ah. does bochs have some form of debugging? 10.42.41 # don';t do it in bochs 10.43.01 # do in in gdb under your own os 10.43.46 # don't have gdb available... actually, i think it's a mapping problem. 10.44.04 # what do you mean gdb isn't available? 10.44.18 # oh. damn. 10.45.05 # i don't have it. 10.45.11 # so, get it 10.45.42 # i will in a moment. :) 10.48.10 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496535C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.48.52 Join adiamas [0] (n=adiamas@ool-435557cc.dyn.optonline.net) 10.49.25 # would writting something for dos be very different to writting a module for rockbox? 10.49.33 # or a plugin 10.49.37 # um... 10.49.46 # depends on how you think about it. 10.50.36 # DoubleThink2: what's teh REAL question? ;) 10.51.10 Quit bondolo (Excess Flood) 10.51.25 # we've not anyone who's tried to port a dos application to rockbox yet... 10.51.30 # I was just thinking of porting something just for the hell of it to try to learn...... but... a bit clueless about coding for rockbox 10.51.47 # there is a handy plugin api... 10.51.51 # porting what? 10.52.02 # I haven't though that far ahead yet 10.52.11 Join bondolo [0] (n=mike@dsl081-053-164.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 10.52.21 # is there documentation for the api? 10.52.59 # ah... /apps/plugin.c and /apps/plugin.h :) 10.53.17 # yeah that's what I thought it would come down to 10.53.27 # just reading the code and learning that way 10.53.32 # DoubleThink2: basically, you interact with the rest of rockbox theroough function pointers. 10.53.40 # pointers are fun! 10.53.55 # ..... that was sarcastic right? O_o 10.54.29 # depends. 10.55.02 # if you get paid to think they're fun, then no, it wasn't sarcasm. :) 10.55.23 # heh 10.55.49 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 10.56.06 # I am not going to get paid for that.... doing an engineering degree...learning programming for the hell of it 10.57.48 # earHertz: i know what the problem is. i never mapped it correctly. 10.57.48 # * scorche hugs midkay =( 10.58.00 # * midkay stabs scorche angrily 10.58.13 # * scorche loves midkay 10.58.44 # you really show it. 10.59.08 # sharpei? 10.59.12 # for the good ol times? 10.59.14 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.59.22 # for great justice? 10.59.24 # DoubleThink2: What are you planning to port? 10.59.32 # scorche: eh? 10.59.35 # sharpe: good work 10.59.47 # and i fixed it... 11.00.26 # I don't have anything in mind... but if I did it would be something really pointless that nobody would want 11.00.50 # DoubleThink2: that's like the plugins i write! 11.00.55 # welcome to the club! 11.00.59 # lol 11.01.18 # I don't have time to do anything serious =( 11.02.15 # one of the things i've done is a port of SIDE, which i never finished. and a written-from-scratch c64 emulator... 11.02.29 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.02.39 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 11.02.45 Quit linuxstb_ (Nick collision from services.) 11.02.48 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.03.33 # SIDE? 11.03.40 # space invaders arcade emulator 11.03.58 # stands for space invaders didactic emulator... 11.04.03 # * earHertz makes waka-waka space invaders noises 11.04.10 # lol 11.04.27 # * earHertz destrotys tyour base 11.04.41 # Now all your base are belong to me 11.05.24 # O_o 11.05.26 # o_O 11.06.22 # is making plugins using c# realistic? 11.06.41 # nope. 11.06.46 # om..not quite 11.06.51 # c++? 11.06.56 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@41.208.194.116) 11.06.57 # *WB(juxtap)WB* - craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax 11.07.09 # heh wth? 11.07.16 # sigh 11.07.20 # DoubleThink2: he has a script or soemthing 11.07.25 Part juxtap 11.07.26 # and no 11.07.27 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@41.208.194.116) 11.07.38 # ...interesting 11.07.45 # VB? =D 11.07.50 # however, if you say 'c' you're good. 11.07.52 # (I know) 11.07.54 # maybe he has a time limit or something of the ilk 11.08.14 # actually, strangely enough, we have ported VB libraries. 11.08.58 # oh O_o 11.09.11 # and now only if you said, "really?" i could deliever the punchline. 11.09.30 # ahmmmm hang on 11.09.32 # ....... really? 11.09.38 # nope. i'm lying. 11.10.05 # lol now I am just confused 11.10.08 # but ahmm... ok 11.10.29 # we use C... and a bit of architecture specific assembly... 11.10.46 # why not C++? 11.10.54 # OO 11.11.21 # among other reasons =) 11.12.00 # bigotry ;) 11.12.11 # blasphemer. 11.12.33 # on a freestanding implementation, tehere's no reason C++ should be bulkier or less efiicent than C 11.12.38 # why do you make it sounds like I am clubbing baby seals? 11.13.09 # DoubleThink2: I'm saying NOT using C++ is bigotry ;() 11.13.11 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 11.13.18 # I'm sayin git with a snmile :O) 11.13.40 # I'm a buig fan of C++, and in fact, we're moving in 3.0 in a more OO direction 11.14.35 # oh ok 11.15.05 # OO: Object oriented right? 11.15.08 # si 11.15.50 # ye 11.16.25 # hmm ok 11.20.47 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-63-232.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.27.35 # [11:07:54] maybe he has a time limit or something of the ilk < *nods* 11.27.57 # 3 hours it was, I think 11.28.35 # * scorche beams 11.32.08 # is it possible to boot into linux straight from rockbox? 11.32.29 # rb isn't linux 11.32.44 # yeah but to boot into iPL from rb.... 11.32.47 # DoubleThink2: as, like a live cd? 11.32.49 Quit apo` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.32.51 # oh.. 11.33.04 # both ipl's and rockbox's supports the other 11.33.04 # reboot and go to the bootloader 11.33.06 Join apo` [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-075-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.33.38 # on rockbox bl, menu is to go into apple, and play is to go into ipl 11.33.45 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.34.05 # what about having that as a menu in rockbox? 11.34.10 # once rockbox is loaded 11.34.14 # fast forward goes to eniac 11.34.28 # DoubleThink2: iopods van't rolo yet 11.35.08 # 'rolo'? O_o 11.35.11 # in other words, no...not yet 11.36.01 # ok =( 11.36.48 # and... when the rockbox logo comes up when it loads.... is that to load stuff in the background or just to look pretty? 11.36.52 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host225-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 11.37.04 # dunno 11.37.04 # RoLo is "the rockbox loader"...basically it allows you to load different firmware files that are on the disk 11.37.18 # currently, only archos models have that ability 11.37.29 # And cowon and iriver... 11.37.32 # oh 11.37.39 # er....yeah 11.37.40 # Basically, just the ipods don't at the moment. 11.38.01 # linuxstb: oh, I haven't seenyou since; thanks for adding my paych to cvs 11.38.11 # Er, which one? 11.38.35 # ipod video lcd duff's device 11.38.48 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54933C82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.39.12 # Have you given up on writing an asm version? 11.39.15 # hmm... rb devs seem so much more active than iPL ones 11.39.24 # linuxstb: you didn't hear? 11.39.33 # I took the hotdog asm version 11.39.38 # I read about your benchmarks, yes. 11.39.43 # but it's quiote odd 11.40.05 # ouch...the wiki is quite outdated on rolo/rombox 11.40.27 # linuxstb: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14414 11.41.18 # essetailly, the C code is faster than the asm for large upadrtes, teh asm fastre than teh c code for small. It has to do with teh 14ms required fior tthe lcd to update 11.41.19 # DoubleThink2: It's also that Rockbox is a single application, whereas IPL development is much more fragmented, with people doing their own things. So you may not notice every IPL related development. 11.42.50 # yeah fair enough 11.44.07 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-137-187.d4.club-internet.fr) 11.46.43 # alright... finally sleep now. 11.46.49 # g'night everyone. 11.46.54 # 'night 11.47.25 # * dionoea wakes up 11.52.27 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.57.41 # gah.... rockbox froze O_O 11.59.26 # "freeze lifted" ... 11.59.29 # * dionoea hides 11.59.57 # heh nvrm me.... 12.02.10 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED9A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.08.01 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@71.80-202-237.nextgentel.com) 12.11.01 # DoubleThink2: Rockbox freezes all the time ~_~ 12.12.48 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-091-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.15.45 # seems relatively stable though... 12.19.35 # it doesn't for me.. 12.19.45 Part DoubleThink2 12.19.48 Join DoubleThink2 [0] (n=Winchest@c211-28-55-23.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.19.53 # i mean it doesn't freeze. 12.20.33 Part juxtap 12.20.35 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@41.208.194.116) 12.20.35 # *WB(juxtap)WB* - craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax 12.21.00 # apo`, is it even funny anymore? :p 12.21.06 # haha. 12.21.11 # who *is* apo`? 12.21.22 # shrug 12.21.53 # almost seems trollish. *stares* 12.21.59 # ._. 12.22.01 # Sorry 12.22.04 # I removed it already 12.22.08 # But my client crashed 12.22.36 # k 12.22.40 # what's with that autopaste quote? 12.22.51 # I like it :P 12.23.20 # i'm typing with one hand so let apo` explain 12.23.29 # (another funny quote) 12.23.31 # hmmph.. 12.23.35 # <_< 12.23.36 # .. okay.. 12.23.38 # * apo` runs 12.26.28 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 12.27.02 # [12:21:11] who *is* apo`? < Um... 12.27.05 # A rockbox user? :P 12.27.07 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.28.15 # that's very clear from "it freezes all the time" and autopaste quotes each time someone joins.. :) 12.28.53 # ^^ 12.29.48 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.29.51 # ^^ indeed. 12.31.19 Join bluebrother [0] (i=yX31grfC@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.32.17 # .....does using hold while rockbox is loading clear the settings? >_< 12.32.46 # yeah. :) 12.32.52 # better set them all and save a config. 12.33.01 # ....that's not convinient.... that's not convinient at all 12.33.02 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 12.33.16 # no, but useful in a few cases. 12.33.21 # it should be changed IMO and probably will.. 12.33.39 # oh... I had a saved cfg file =) 12.33.40 # setting hold and pressing select :) 12.33.44 # or at least it should write a .cfg file before resetting so you can load it if it was accidental. 12.34.27 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-137-187.d4.club-internet.fr) 12.36.01 Quit Gnelik (Client Quit) 12.39.02 # sudo ./write_loader 12.39.03 # gah 12.39.19 # my bad.... that was meant to go into terminal.... wrong window >_< 12.39.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.40.30 # haha. 12.46.21 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 12.46.33 # yawn. 12.46.36 # big fucking yawn. 12.46.54 # this heat wave makes it impossible to get any reasonable sleep. 12.47.13 # heat wave? O_o 12.47.22 # sleep naked :) 12.47.47 # i'm nak.. na..e..v..er mind! 12.47.52 # never experienced a swedish summer this hot before, i think.. maybe 1995.. but that's ages ago. 12.47.54 # lol! 12.48.00 # what temp? 12.48.08 # what a liar qwm is. 12.48.13 # i thought sweden is cold 12.48.13 # over 25C outside all the fucking time. :( 12.48.18 # "maybe 1995". 12.48.20 # not during the summer. 12.48.21 # pff. 12.48.23 # lol..... wth 12.48.31 # lol 20C 12.48.36 # You wouldn't like living in Australia then 12.48.36 # lol 12.48.36 # 25 C is nothing :) 12.48.45 # :P 12.48.46 # oh yeah, i think the pencil was in vented in maybe.. april 7th, 1852 at 9:04am. 12.48.46 # It's like 40C here 12.48.48 # lol... 25C... heat wave.... O_o 12.48.52 # oh my. 12.48.53 # haha. 12.49.05 # according to swedish standards. 12.49.08 # i haven't seen #rockbox this active since.. maybe.. 2 hours 6 minutes 25 second ago! 12.49.29 # know why? because weather is interesting to talk about. ;) 12.49.31 # ho hum 12.49.42 # someone fix the user keyboards! mmmm broke em :D 12.49.45 # i haven't been this sweaty in.. maybe 16 days 4 hours 42 minutes 59 seconds and 99 milliseconds. 12.49.54 # lol 12.50.39 # i haven't heard the made-up word "AfddakDFJkjeakaFdADS" in maybe... 93 years, 8 months, 24 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes and 47 seconds. 12.51.24 # hardly a word, but alright! 12.51.26 # anyway... back to whatever it is I do... 12.51.31 # sadfasdf5y3m2d5h54m30sakdfhksagf 12.52.04 # sad fasdf 5y 3m 2d 5h 54m 30s akdfhk sagf? no, i heard that one within the past few days. 12.52.58 # Nope 12.53.07 # yes. YES. i'm positive. 12.53.10 # You heard sad fafdf 5y 3m 2d 5h 54m 30s akdfhk sagf 12.53.34 # no. 12.53.37 # -fafdf+fasdf. 12.53.47 # i'm sure of it. 12.55.17 # does anyone understand the user keyboard loading code? 12.56.06 # who is phaedrus961 ? 12.56.31 # who is this JdGordon fool. 12.56.56 # ... 12.57.01 # sorry. 12.57.04 # i don't know about pfaderdrus. 12.57.11 # please don't hurt me. :( 12.57.12 # * JdGordon is trying to kill bugs and all you ppl do is joke :'( 12.57.24 # * JdGordon runs away and never returns 12.57.29 # take all my money if you want. 12.57.33 # take my fireworks code! :'( 12.57.35 # oh alright 12.57.37 # ill stay 12.57.38 # hey. wait. 12.57.39 # never mind. 12.57.41 # you were running away. 12.57.43 # get back out of here. 12.57.45 # haha 12.57.57 # i'll take YOUR money, son! 12.58.33 # midkay: did i tell u my suggestion for fireworks? 12.58.50 # all the flashy stuff like smoke trails and spinning fireworks and stuff. yeah. 13.00.05 # and draw the launcher on the remote lcd :) 13.00.16 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.00.26 # .. haha. 13.00.33 # i never caught that one but FORGET IT. 13.00.33 # :) 13.00.54 # hehe oh well :p 13.01.14 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46FED.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.03.45 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@159.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) 13.06.05 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3041.gwdg.de) 13.10.33 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.11.36 # does anyone mind if i redo the user keyboard loading coz the code makes no sense to me at all? :D 13.12.11 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp43-26.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.12.48 # what's the diff between initialise now and update now..... and ... what do they actually do? 13.14.02 # linuxstb: is it better to use a static array of say 512chars and messyer code, or just steal the plugin buffer and much nicer code? (this is in the core, not accessable from in a plugin) 13.14.41 # Can't you just use 512 bytes on the stack? 13.15.03 # i dunno, can i? 13.15.18 # The main stack is 8KB I think, so there should be space. 13.15.20 # DoubleThink2, initialize does a complete initialize, removing the old tagcache. Update just scans for new / changed (?) files. 13.15.42 # what about 1kb? or is that pushing it? 13.15.49 # ah ok thanks 13.16.14 # * linuxstb thinks he has rolo working on the ipods... 13.16.19 # * freqmod thinks "remake tagcache" would be a better name than initialize 13.16.20 # congrats 13.18.24 # linuxstb: yay? 13.19.40 # sharpe: second "i'm going to bed"-but-not-really tonight, or third? 13.19.55 # twas the second one i believe. 13.20.27 # ah. 13.21.07 # yeah. 13.21.24 # still, one is too many! 13.21.45 # indeed. maybe i have insomnia... 13.21.59 # If I make a patch to fix a bug should I put it as a bug or a patch in the bugtracker? 13.22.10 # hm.. 13.22.16 # patch. in the patch tracker. 13.22.38 # on a steep hill, do telephone poles and street lights stick out from it at a 90* angle or remain straight up?! 13.23.02 # btw. can sombody confirm/reject that the down button on the keyboard is broken on cvs builds for iPod (video)? 13.23.18 # the down button? 13.23.29 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@203.187.240.141) 13.24.04 # well, next, to get to the character on the next line e.g from A to H 13.24.21 # on the scroll wheel? 13.24.26 # yes 13.24.27 # scrolling up works and down doesn't? 13.24.37 # yes 13.25.09 # hm.. 13.25.21 # i have made a patch to fix it for me... 13.25.29 # there was a keyboard change in 19th july, potentially related. 13.25.49 # http://pastebin.ca/97091 13.26.54 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-32-12.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.31.08 # Posted bug: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5702 (forgot to edit to type: patch) 13.36.02 # freqmod: im playing in that file now, so ill put that straight into my changes, hopefully my patch will be accepted... 13.36.11 # just incase no1 commits that 13.37.06 # hang on.. whats the bug? 13.39.45 # JdGordon: I can not scroll down from A to H it just changes to line_edit mode 13.40.25 # it might be that my rockbox source is edited to death (but i got a fresh keyboard.c from cvs) 13.40.54 # hmm.... 13.41.00 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 13.41.13 # can u build the sim? 13.41.47 # oh, actually dw 13.41.56 # Bagder: hi 13.41.59 # * freqmod is doing a cvs up in a clean rockbox source and building the sim 13.42.02 # my bad, i thought the ipod and h300 acted the same way in that screen... which they dont 13.42.21 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.44.23 Quit TucknDar () 13.45.31 Join webguest97 [0] (n=478571c9@labb.contactor.se) 13.45.44 Join godofrandomness [0] (n=478571c9@labb.contactor.se) 13.45.46 Quit webguest97 (Client Quit) 13.45.51 Quit qwm () 13.46.26 Nick bluey- is now known as bluey^afk (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-091-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.46.40 # same error in clean source with sim, the patch fixes it. 13.46.57 # * freqmod is afk 13.48.56 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081939F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.49.57 Quit godofrandomness (Client Quit) 13.54.09 Join godofrandomness [0] (n=icechat5@71.133.113.201) 13.54.39 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-091-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.56.35 Quit godofrandomness (Client Quit) 13.57.57 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.06.39 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-42-151.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.08.03 Quit bluey^afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.08.14 Join LandusMikain [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 14.09.00 Quit agabus ("Leaving") 14.09.53 # hi 14.10.10 # hi 14.10.14 # my ihp140 is behaving weirdly 14.10.16 # like 14.10.21 # takes ages to boot 14.10.25 # browse 14.10.29 # and play some tracks 14.10.31 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 14.10.40 # i hear weak tak tak noises when pressing my ear on it 14.10.58 # but i diagnosed me hd with easy recovery and all 14.11.05 # and it says "no failure" 14.11.06 # :( 14.11.18 # i think the hd is dying anyway 14.11.23 # it pisses me off 14.11.55 # yay, this patch is gonna kick ass :D 14.12.17 # so now i'm about to spend some money 14.12.19 # 'night 14.12.21 # shall i: 14.12.26 Part DoubleThink2 14.12.31 # 1- buy a MK6006GAH 14.12.36 # 2- buy an ipod nano? 14.12.57 # anyone here using a nano? 14.13.17 Quit Rondom (Remote closed the connection) 14.13.18 # JdGordon: What does the patch do? 14.13.36 Quit joelskine ("Leaving") 14.13.47 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 14.13.50 # me! 14.13.52 # fixes the loadable keyboards which were broken by a recent update 14.13.56 # pill: sorry, don't know those players 14.14.04 # okay :( 14.14.05 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-98-46.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.14.07 # or eh... do know, but don't have one 14.14.15 # pill: i use the nano editor! 14.16.32 # "loadable keyboards", what are those ? 14.16.47 # <_FireFly_> qwm: nano editor != ipod nano ;) 14.16.55 # different virtual keyboard layouts 14.18.02 # neat :) 14.18.06 # is that already in CVS ? 14.18.32 # finik: as a matter of fact, i use both! 14.18.51 Join Doomed_ [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 14.19.43 # dionoea: it is, but its broken on targets with the remote 14.20.11 # * qwm took the red pill 14.20.36 # JdGordon: how do you change the layout ? is that explained in the doc ? 14.21.07 # really badly in the wiki somewhere i tihnk 14.21.30 # bassically u just type your layout onto a txt file and rename it something.kbd and put it in the .rockbox folder and run it 14.21.31 # anyone here who eats more than one pill a day? 14.22.17 Join madragonn [0] (n=51ae8555@labb.contactor.se) 14.22.28 # hi 14.22.53 # JdGordon: what encoding should the text be in ? UTF-8 ? 14.22.58 # or does it guess it ? 14.23.04 # utf-8 is good 14.23.07 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54877ADC.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.23.08 Quit madragonn (Client Quit) 14.23.12 # surely, you'd take a C vitamin pill if you had a vitamin C deficiency? 14.24.28 # JdGordon: how do you change layouts? (iPod interface) 14.24.34 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.24.40 # same way, make the file and run it 14.24.43 # anyone who has been to # . 14.24.43 # # British slang for an Ecstasy pill, and American slang for recreationally used prescription drugs. 14.24.46 # # A disagreeable or tiresome person (E.g., He is a pill.) 14.24.56 # fuck. that pretty much ruined it. 14.25.08 # i'm such a bad selecter. 14.25.11 Quit Landus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.25.22 # JdGordon: how to you tell it to start a new line on the keyboard ? \n doesn't seem to work 14.25.23 Quit XavierGr () 14.25.42 # dionoea: ye, you need to fill it with spaces 14.25.47 # sometimes you just need to take the pill, though. 14.25.53 # PITA but no other way 14.25.56 # fill that cavity with a pill. 14.26.00 # JdGordon: that's kind of stupid :) i'll fix that 14.26.17 # na, it makes everything easier in the code 14.26.24 # which is better than making it easier for the user :) 14.26.31 # seen as this feature is almost enever used 14.26.31 # err ... 14.26.56 # JdGordon: i'll try to make an easy fix 14.27.14 # ha, good luck 14.27.18 # the code is horrible :) 14.27.29 # i mean, well.. there is an easy fix.. but its not so nic 14.27.30 # e 14.27.42 # btw, which source file handles that loading keyboards stuff ? 14.27.58 # * qwm thinks pill may be afk 14.28.20 # recorder/keyboard.c ? 14.28.25 # ye 14.28.43 # hehe, MORSE input :) 14.29.01 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.24 # dionoea: actually.. no.. there is no easy fix possible :D 14.29.33 # why ? 14.30.22 # because the way the whole thing works... what youd need to do is get the code to fill in the spaces, except, when its loading the file you dont know how many columns there are, so u dont know how many spaces to insert 14.30.46 # you never know the number of columns ? 14.31.31 # if its scaled to the font then no u dont, if its always the system font then you do, but you need to then keep track of how many cols u have read while reading the file 14.33.41 # JdGordon: well looking at lines 360 and down ... it looks like keeping the '\n' might be possible 14.34.06 # by all means fiddle.. but good luck :p 14.34.26 # and it looks like it automatically falls back to FONT_SYSFIXED if FONT_UI is too large 14.36.37 Quit Doomed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.36.38 # who should i talk to before changing stuff like that ? 14.36.51 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Client Quit) 14.37.00 Quit Rob2222 () 14.37.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACAE901E.ipt.aol.com) 14.39.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.41.18 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 14.41.29 Quit Nilisco ("changing servers") 14.41.58 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@203.187.240.141) 14.42.17 # dionoea: im not sure who knows the keyboard file best.. maybe look at the changes and see who commited them 14.49.55 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.52.50 # yay, people are using my build your own rockbox page :) 14.52.54 Quit Gnelik ("Gfrf!4edss") 14.57.13 # you should also provide a link to the build log 14.57.23 # so that you can see if a patch failed or similar 14.57.47 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 14.58.21 Quit aliask ("sleep") 14.58.30 # JdGordon: where is your "build your own..." page available ? 14.59.02 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-90-57.dsl.pipex.com) 14.59.08 # Bagder: i will, eventually.. :p 14.59.27 # dionoea: http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php 15.00.15 # looks neat :) 15.00.20 # doesn't it already send out "build failed" emails? 15.00.55 # well, a build could still work even if a single patch partially fails 15.01.00 # at least in theory 15.01.20 # does it already send out ones for individual failures? *dunno* 15.01.23 # midkay: it does 15.01.32 # but now, 3-yearold party at the neighbour's! 15.01.45 # Bagder's three already?! 15.01.48 # :D 15.01.54 # party been going for 3 years already?? 15.01.56 # the party's lasted three years? 15.02.03 # whaty t is it afrat house? 15.02.05 Quit Nilisco ("changing servers") 15.04.32 # .. what? 15.04.35 # :) 15.04.36 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 15.04.48 # * midkay buys earHertz "Typing Tutor" for his birthday. 15.05.06 # short q..does rbx run on the ipod mini? are there more than one revision of the mini? 15.05.20 # yes, yes. 15.05.40 # its my gf mini..she will kill me if i break it :o 15.06.10 # rockbox can't break it; instructions are in the manual. 15.06.22 # thre are two: i think mini g2 has the capacity written on the back, g1 doesn't. 15.06.29 # ok...hope its as easy as for the irivers 15.06.59 # easier, maybe even.. 15.07.09 Join dongs_ [0] (n=HPUX@b148037.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 15.07.13 # haven't installed on an iriver, but it looks a little more complicated. 15.07.51 # <_FireFly_> it is easy you have only patch the firmware with the bootloader and update the iriver with the patched firmware ;) 15.08.00 # is dualboot still　possible? 15.08.20 # <_FireFly_> muesli__: on what device ? 15.08.24 # it's there by default (on iPod).. 15.08.27 # ipod mini 15.09.47 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@062016145077.customer.alfanett.no) 15.10.39 Quit Nilisco ("changing servers") 15.11.58 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 15.17.25 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 15.17.59 Quit Nilisco ("changing servers") 15.20.20 Quit dongs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.20.45 Join sidolin [0] (n=sid@p3E9E364E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.20.47 # hi 15.21.22 # where can i find patches like scroll margin which apply to the newest cvs? 15.21.37 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 15.21.40 # i only find older ones which dont apply right 15.23.46 # <_FireFly_> sidolin: i would say fix the patch yoursef if you can# 15.24.28 # i'll try but its not so easy for me since i only know python and a bit java and c++ 15.25.25 Quit gromit` ("Coyote finally caught me") 15.30.16 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 15.30.47 Join man_in_shack [0] (i=Clare@011.a.003.mel.iprimus.net.au) 15.30.50 # * man_in_shack waves 15.31.52 # * JdGordon aims, shoots.... misses 15.31.54 # blast! 15.32.22 # was wondering if anyone knew about creative zen players 15.32.33 # appart from the fact that they suck ... 15.35.30 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@125.188.3.80) 15.36.00 # haha. 15.36.03 # like what? 15.36.47 # hi 15.37.15 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249247.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 15.38.13 # like the hardware in it ... if it's compatible in any way with rockbox 8) 15.38.43 # also if it's possible to repair a button where the little domed metal thing has been forced into the "on" position permanently :P 15.39.05 # haha. 15.39.09 # no idea. 15.39.52 # :) 15.43.15 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 15.43.50 Join theprodukkt [0] (n=abc@hnvr-d9b8eb85.pool.mediaWays.net) 15.43.55 Join dongs__ [0] (n=HPUX@b148134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 15.46.39 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.46.50 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.47.29 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 15.50.00 Quit dongs_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.52.42 Join dongs_ [0] (n=HPUX@h193113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 15.54.02 # JdGordon: here it goes: http://paste.videolan.org/202 15.54.35 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 15.54.38 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.54.40 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host225-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 15.54.57 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.54.58 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host225-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 15.56.54 # does rockbox do APE? 15.57.02 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@207-237-225-94.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 15.57.02 # * man_in_shack waves buhbye 15.57.04 Quit man_in_shack ("Leaving") 15.57.18 # <_FireFly_> chendo: it can read APEv2 tags if you mean that 15.57.22 Quit Nilisco (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.57.27 # <_FireFly_> at least in wavpack files 15.57.31 Quit dongs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.41 Quit merbanan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.58.32 # let latest version of MediaMonkey added Rockbox specific features... nice! 15.58.47 # http://www.mediamonkey.com/ 15.59.19 Quit qwm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.59.58 Quit muesli__ ("ich will KEe!!!") 16.00.52 # <_FireFly_> elinenbe: which features do you mean ? 16.06.09 Join Nilisco [0] (n=Nilisco@nxpe.com) 16.06.29 Quit dongs__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.09.43 # anyone here familiar with recorder/keyboard.c who can validate a patch ? 16.11.17 # which patch? 16.11.35 # are you working on it? 16.12.41 # this patch: http://paste.videolan.org/203 . what it basically does is change .kbd file loading to automatically pad lines with spaces (like what's done with the default keyboard) 16.13.17 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@p54B7FDC4.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.13.20 # has anyone else a problem to get tagcache to work with the latest cvs changes? (i'm using a patched build, so my problems might be related to this) 16.13.24 # so that you don't have to pad with spaces yourself (which can be quite a pain if you change your font) 16.13.43 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.14.05 # .. the keyboard display? 16.14.13 # the font is always sysfixed there, i'm pretty sure. 16.14.24 # not with custom keyboard layouts 16.14.28 # no? 16.14.35 # PaulJam: hmm, what kind of problems? 16.14.58 # if (!kbd_loaded) { param[l].curfont = FONT_SYSFIXED; ... blabla } 16.14.58 # if (!kbd_loaded) { param[l].curfont = FONT_SYSFIXED; ... blabla else 16.14.59 # param[l].curfont = FONT_UI; 16.15.04 # ok how do i move text in a wps down a line 16.15.04 # woops 16.15.30 # insert a new line before it.. 16.16.16 # i have no idea what to do. just press enter 16.16.30 # .. yes? 16.16.35 # it's all line-based. 16.16.55 # what file do i need to edit 16.17.15 # The .wps file. 16.17.15 # the .wps file. 16.17.22 Quit theprodukkt (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.17.25 # :) 16.17.31 # gah, beat me very slightly. :) 16.18.20 # Slasheri: if i initialize the tagcache and restart rockbox (after the hd stops spinning) the "committig ..." splash doesn't appear and the tagcache is not ready. 16.19.02 # # disable the status bar 16.19.02 # %wd 16.19.02 # # preloading images 16.19.02 DBUG Enqueued KICK BigMac 16.19.02 # %P|pb.bmp| 16.19.02 # # playback images 16.19.03 *** Alert Mode level 1 16.19.03 # %xl|a|stop.bmp|87|200| 16.19.05 # %xl|b|play.bmp|87|200| 16.19.07 # %xl|c|pause.bmp|87|200| 16.19.09 # %xl|d|next.bmp|87|200| 16.19.11 # %xl|e|prev.bmp|87|200| 16.19.13 # %xl|f|vol0.bmp|221|200| 16.19.15 # %xl|g|vol1.bmp|221|200| 16.19.17 # %xl|h|vol2.bmp|221|200| 16.19.19 # %xl|i|vol3.bmp|221|200| 16.19.21 # %xl|j|vol4.bmp|221|200| 16.19.23 # %xl|k|vol5.bmp|221|200| 16.19.25 # %xl|l|vol6.bmp|221|200| 16.19.25 # BigMac: use pastebin 16.19.27 # %xl|m|vol7.bmp|221|200| 16.19.28 # sigh. 16.19.29 # %xl|n|vol8.bmp|221|200| 16.19.31 # %xl|o|vol9.bmp|221|200| 16.19.33 # %xl|p|vol10.bmp|221|200| 16.19.35 # %xl|q|bat0.bmp|289|0| 16.19.37 # %xl|r|bat1.bmp|289|0| 16.19.39 # %xl|s|bat2.bmp|289|0| 16.19.41 # %xl|t|bat3.bmp|289|0| 16.19.43 # %xl|u|bat4.bmp|289|0| 16.19.45 # %xl|v|repeat.bmp|33|200| 16.19.47 # %xl|w|repeat1.bmp|33|200| 16.19.49 # %xl|x|repeatsh.bmp|33|200| 16.19.51 # %xl|y|power.bmp|289|0| 16.19.53 # %xl|z|charge.bmp|289|0| 16.19.55 # %xl|A|hold.bmp|242|0| 16.19.55 # we don't need to see it all, but yes, that's the .wps file. just add a new line. 16.19.57 # %xl|B|shuffle.bmp|9|200| 16.19.59 # %xl|C|hdd.bmp|267|0| 16.20.01 # %xl|D|repeatab.bmp|33|200| 16.20.03 # %m|117|240|6|%al%cb d, H:Mc ;%m|117|240|6|%alBattery: %bt 16.20.05 # %?pv<%xdf|%xdg|%xdh|%xdi|%xdj|%xdk|%xdl|%xdm|%xdn|%xdo|%xdp> %?bl<%xdq|%xdr|%xds|%xdt|%xdu> 16.20.07 # %s%m|133|290|%al%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(Artist Unknown)>> 16.20.09 # %s%m|133|290|%al%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(Album Unknown)>> 16.20.11 # %s%m|133|290|%al%?it<%it|%fn> 16.20.13 # %m|113|290|%alTrack: %pp of %pe - %pc [%pt] 16.20.15 # %m|113|290|%alCodec: %fc (%fbkbps) 16.20.17 # # progress bar : height, left position 16.20.19 # %s%m|70|290|%alNext: %?It<%It|%Fn> 16.20.21 # %pb|9|0|320| 16.20.23 # %X|bg.bmp| 16.20.25 # %?mp<%xda|%xdb|%xdc|%xdd|%xde> 16.20.27 # %?mm<|%xdv|%xdw|%xdx|%xdD> 16.20.29 # %?mh<%xdA|> 16.20.31 # %?bp<%xdy|> 16.20.33 # %?bc<%xdz|> 16.20.35 # %?ps<%xdB|> 16.20.37 # %?lh<%xdC|> 16.20.39 # %C|7|35|[100|100|] 16.20.41 # what part do i change 16.20.43 # none of it makes any sense to me 16.20.43 # wow ... that is long 16.20.45 # pastebin? 16.20.47 # were 16.20.49 # what part 16.20.51 # PaulJam:what is paste bin? 16.20.58 # BigMac, that was NOT cool. Please don't do that again. 16.21.03 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 16.21.04 # ok 16.21.09 # pastebin.com 16.21.46 # BigMac, I suggest you read the chapter in the Rockbox Manual on creating WPSes, or read the CustomWPS page on the wiki. 16.22.17 Join Drkepilogue [0] (n=478de5b0@labb.contactor.se) 16.22.22 # i read the part in the manual febs. it didn't tell me how to move the artist text down a level 16.22.34 # dionoea: I will look at the patch this week and junti sent me some screenshots of problems with the keyboard and korean I want to look at. 16.22.46 # korean ? 16.22.54 # hangul 16.23.06 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.23.06 # * dionoea doesn't understand 16.23.07 # Slasheri: is it normal that when i initialize tagcache now only one .tcd file is created (tagcache_tmp.tcd)? 16.23.22 # but i'll send some screen shots 16.24.09 # dionoea: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/jungti_overlapping_text.bmp 16.24.27 # ©÷AE¨ª 16.24.35 # BigMac: the .wps displays on the screen exactly what it has in the file, UNLESS the line contains a tag telling the wps to display something else. 16.24.43 # hmm 16.24.43 # PaulJam: ah, there is a bug 16.24.46 # well i didn't change anything about the text line, only the upper part 16.24.46 # i just found it too 16.25.04 # So if you want to move something down a line, just insert a blank line in the file. 16.25.06 # Like this. 16.25.09 # . 16.25.17 # (Without the period) 16.25.19 # dionoea: I'm just saying there are some problems with the keyboard and I will take a look. 16.25.37 # ok :) ... 16.25.50 # it have 3~4 problems. 16.26.59 # how do you display japanese character on rockbox?!? 16.27.09 # Febs:but were in the line 16.27.20 # i want to move the wps text down 16.27.21 # Drkepilogue: choose a font with support for japanese 16.27.50 # Drkepilogue: are you having problems with japanese tags in your audio files? 16.28.03 # or language.. 16.28.06 Join _Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 16.28.13 # language doesnt work... 16.28.16 # hehe 16.28.17 # PaulJam: fix has been now committed 16.28.17 # nothing shows up 16.28.26 # choose font. 16.28.32 # support japanese 16.28.41 # 6+12x13, unifont 16.28.49 # It support japanese 16.28.59 # Slasheri: thanks 16.29.04 *** Alert Mode OFF 16.29.45 # thanks dood!!!! 16.30.51 # Drkepilogue: are you japanese? 16.30.57 # naw 16.31.03 # no? 16.31.04 # but i got japanese song 16.31.07 # ah.. :) 16.31.08 # shows up as blocks... 16.31.16 # lolz 16.31.47 # It show up now? 16.31.47 # BigMac: *anywhere* before the "wps text". 16.31.58 # yeah 16.32.00 # it works 16.32.06 # ok 16.32.25 # Drkepilogue: here some more details http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeGuide 16.33.10 # BigMac, insert a blank line immediately before the line you want to move down. I literally cannot explain it any more clearly than that. 16.34.17 Quit Siku () 16.34.29 # kool 16.34.30 # _FireFly_: Added iPod plug-in can create .m3u files (for use with Rockbox firmware) 16.34.32 # thanks 16.37.21 Quit damaki (Remote closed the connection) 16.38.50 # just wonderin... who are the main devs that are workin on the ipod port?! 16.38.52 Join mmbuffalo [0] (n=aj@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861363.sympatico.ca) 16.40.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.41.30 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.41.45 Join Drkepilogue [0] (n=478de5b0@labb.contactor.se) 16.42.48 Quit Drkepilogue (Client Quit) 16.43.31 Join Drkepilogue [0] (n=478de5b0@labb.contactor.se) 16.45.25 # Drkepilogue: linuxstb is probably the most active on the ipod port. preglow has worked on it. dan_a has been spearheading the effort for the 3g. 16.45.41 # o0o0o ic 16.45.57 # do u no what is linuxstb is working on for the moment? 16.46.37 # Well, he just implemented ROLO on most ipod platforms 16 minutes ago, so that would be my best guess! 16.46.41 # * linuxstb is working on lunch 16.46.52 # There you have it. 16.46.59 # lolz 16.47.02 # ic ic 16.47.19 # well, i meant things like acutally charing with the ac adpter 16.47.20 Quit Nilisco (Connection timed out) 16.47.22 # and such 16.47.26 Nick _Nilisco is now known as Nilisco (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 16.48.57 # markun: well i fixed the other bug too 16.49.22 # dionoea: the korean bug? 16.49.33 # the overlapping chars bug 16.50.11 # He showed me 2 more bugs: jungti_no_cursor.bmp and jungti_chars_to_left.bmp 16.50.40 # Slasheri: it works now, thanks. And i have another question/suggestion: would it be possible to split the tagnavi.config into two parts, tagnavi.config and tagnavi_user.config, that the user doesn't have to worry that an update overwrites his custom tagnavi.config 16.50.58 # markun: the second one should be fixed too i guess 16.51.11 # dionoea: and you can also download his korean.kbd from my server 16.51.35 # i'm not sure that it was korean related ... just that it didn't handle the font width correctly 16.51.44 # PaulJam: ah, yes 16.52.00 # PaulJam: i will try to that soon 16.52.22 # markun: what font should i use to get the korean chars ? 16.52.29 # unifont 16.52.34 # or 6+12x13 16.52.46 # thanks 16.53.28 # whats ROLO? 16.53.35 # rockbox loader 16.53.51 # can you elaborate? 16.53.52 # dionoea: the korean input method it pretty nice, but I would like to also have support for other things like accented characters for example 16.54.01 # it allows loading firmwares in rockbox 16.54.07 # Drkepilogue: old info http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RoLo 16.55.04 # Drkepilogue: load a firmware file without rebooting 16.55.15 # markun: what font/target were you using ? unifont is too large and 6+12x13 doesn't have korean chars 16.55.24 # ah 16.55.26 # dotum.... 16.55.28 # I have only 16.55.59 Join roolku [0] (n=5229e48e@labb.contactor.se) 16.56.37 # dionoea: http://www.ihuf.net/board/data/download_rockbox/dotum11.fnt 16.57.25 # thanks :) 16.57.51 # weird ... your webserver doesn't let me download with wget but firefox works fine 16.57.57 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.58.24 # <_FireFly_> dionoea: maybe an agent-string problem 16.58.53 # hm? 17.00.12 # dionoea: have any problem? 17.00.16 # slasheri: I have posted a few comments re tagcache on the forums http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5420.0 and was wondering if you could comment on the issues if you got some time. Cheers 17.00.27 # well it worked fine with firefox ... so it's ok 17.00.37 # ok 17.00.44 # I use IE 17.00.51 # how do you go on the text line using the h3x0 sim in keyboard mode ? 17.01.00 # ? 17.01.10 # freqmod: Just saw your keyboard patch, seems I made a typo! :D Could you try this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5702#comment9022 17.01.12 # what's mean markun? :) help.. 17.01.24 # i just want to move the cursor :) 17.01.30 # ah 17.01.42 # play + >>l or play + l<< 17.02.13 # thanks :) 17.03.10 # * freqmod will try it 17.03.32 # markun: this is what it looks like now http://people.via.ecp.fr/~dionoea/dump%20060723-170231.png 17.03.46 # freqmod: Ecellent, I'll commit if you're happy! ;) 17.04.13 # dionoea: I will check now 17.04.20 # <_FireFly_> dionoea: it is a User Agent string problem with wget 17.04.33 # _FireFly_: that'd be weird 17.04.50 # <_FireFly_> after setting the User Agent string i can download the font 17.04.53 # <_FireFly_> with wget 17.05.23 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 17.05.37 Quit roolku ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.05.51 # hmm dionoea 17.06.05 # I have problem yet 17.06.16 # where ? 17.06.28 # ? 17.06.39 # "I have problem yet" 17.06.58 # what 'where'? 17.07.09 # <_FireFly_> dionoea: also a empty agent-string works 17.07.15 # hehe :) i meant 'what problem do you have' ? 17.07.16 # <_FireFly_> -U "" 17.07.32 # markun said problems. 17.07.40 # all I have. 17.08.53 # markun: should i commit my changes ? or would you like to check them first ? (i'm not 100% confident that i haven't broken anything) 17.09.13 # (like the remote lcd keyboard for example...) 17.10.24 # hahaha 17.10.26 # very funny 17.10.48 # Mmmm:Happy :) (it works) 17.10.54 # at least in simulator 17.11.10 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h94n8c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 17.11.17 # freqmod: it should be fine then..I'll put it in, Thanks for spotting it! :) 17.12.08 # markun 17.12.11 # uh, linuxstb, is there any specific direction to use rolo? 17.12.21 # come here 17.13.23 # markun. I want more change about korean input. 17.13.26 Quit Sinbios (Connection timed out) 17.14.20 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.14.43 # linuxstb, u there? 17.15.06 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.15.14 # -_- 17.15.31 # haha.. 17.15.48 # look at the _ 17.15.54 # he's still here! 17.16.02 # yes, yes. 17.16.19 # slipery as an eel that linuxstb! :D 17.16.20 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.16.21 # >.> 17.16.23 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 17.16.30 # lol 17.16.34 # r u here now!? 17.17.01 # Yes... 17.17.04 # ok 17.17.11 # im not sure if im doing something worng 17.17.19 # but ROLO kinda dont work. 17.17.51 # What are you doing, and what then happens? 17.17.54 # im using the lastest CVS bulild, and i just extracted a experimental build 17.18.10 # so i have an experimental build on a folder 17.18.34 # when i try to open the .mod file for the experimental build 17.18.59 # it said loadin... then executing 17.19.02 # and it hang 17.19.17 # HD getting warmer.. 17.19.30 # Better reset then... 17.19.34 # yeah 17.19.45 # Which ipod do you have? 17.19.47 # soap: no thanks, i have no interest in making a wps. im just going to mud j blackglass. and so far it works perfect. 17.19.52 # 4th gen color 17.20.27 # Do you know if it is was sold as a Photo or a Color? 17.20.31 # o 17.20.32 # lol 17.20.34 # phto 17.20.35 # 30GB 17.21.30 # OK, I think I know the problem - I forgot something... 17.21.34 # lolz 17.21.36 # ok 17.25.18 # hi, anyone know the format of the data to use with the rb->pcm_play_data(...) ? 17.25.58 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 17.26.15 # it takes an (unsigned char*), so we can only feed it with 8 bit sound ? 17.29.57 # AFAIK, it takes interleaved 16-bit stereo samples. 17.31.24 # Grrrr. 17.31.27 # ok, thx 17.31.51 Nick LandusMikain is now known as Landus (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 17.38.36 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 17.43.30 # wow, just started Rockboxing some hours ago... Incredible! awesome work, whoever deserves praise! 17.44.13 # yay, a person who cares! 17.44.14 # =] 17.45.15 # TucknDar: a lot of people! 17.45.38 # TucknDar: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/docs/CREDITS 17.45.49 # elinenbe, yes, seems like it! 17.46.01 # linuxstb, :) 17.46.58 # I won't paste that list in here, though... 17.47.00 # linux, r u workin on fixing the ROLO thing? 17.47.02 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.49.05 Quit Gnelik ("Gfrf!4edss") 17.49.56 # markun. bye 17.52.43 # Jungti1234: bye 17.52.51 # haha.. 17.52.57 # now you answer. 17.53.04 # so late.. 17.53.06 # Was watching a TV series :) 17.53.16 # I want more change about korean input. 17.53.33 # What would you like to change? 17.53.50 # first you must learn C of course :) 17.53.57 # haha.. 17.54.06 # I can't input here it. 17.54.08 # Slasheri: after having thought a little bit about the tagnavi_user.config suggestion, it would be propably better, if the tagnavi.config would be completely ignored if a tagnavi_user.config is present. 17.54.49 Quit Jungti1234 () 18.01.12 Join CYPER^ [0] (i=CYPER@user-5766.lns4-c13.telh.dsl.pol.co.uk) 18.01.28 Nick dan_a_away is now known as dan_a (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 18.01.32 # one question: do I have to update my firmware on every daily build and how? 18.01.48 # just replace the .rockbox folder? 18.02.03 Join naap [0] (n=meizi@80-248-251-66.cust.suomicom.fi) 18.02.11 # hello 18.02.18 # CYPER: yeah.. pretty much 18.02.33 # you should update yur frim everyday 18.02.41 # cuz changes are made every build 18.03.02 # but as I can see from the changelog there are no major changes to the actual firmware, but to some plugins that I don't use 18.03.03 # for updating it... just DL the newer one, and extract to yur DAP 18.03.13 # like: 23 Jul 01:10 Antoine uisimulator/sdl/button.c 1.11 Bind F8 key to "on" button (usefull if you don't have a numpad) 18.03.18 # lolz 18.03.20 # yeah 18.03.21 # true 18.03.28 # you dont have to 18.03.37 # but generally, whenever i have free time 18.03.39 # i update 18.03.48 # cyper: just update when you want to. daily builds can have problems, after all. :) 18.03.52 # could someone assist me with my problem with my own wps file not being remembered after each reboot? 18.03.53 # I'll just check the changelog regularly and see if the changes are important 18.04.08 # naap: put it in ./rockbox/wps. 18.04.24 # hmm 18.06.14 # thank you 18.06.48 # but shouldnt someone update the website as its saying its supposed to be in the /.rockbox folder? 18.07.07 # it doesn't say that? (If so, where?) 18.07.20 # quote: 18.07.22 # File Location 18.07.24 # damn 18.07.28 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 18.07.36 # on file location 18.08.05 # If the "played" wps file is located in the /.rockbox folder, it'll be remembered and used for subsequent restarts. Filenames in the /.rockbox folder must be no more than 24 characters long. 18.08.07 # indeed, nobody has updated that bit... 18.08.13 # yes 18.08.14 # aint that it? 18.08.24 # it worked like half an year las time for me :o 18.08.32 # half an year ago 18.08.37 # just been too lazy to try to fix it 18.08.43 # lolz 18.09.03 # now i just snapped hehe 18.09.09 # to annoying 18.09.12 # does anyone no if the battery life for the ipod improve if i use FLAC instead of mp3? 18.09.26 # depends on which ipod 18.09.45 # and if the use of flac makes the disk spin more 18.10.34 # im using 4g ipod photo 18.10.49 # iono if using FLAC makes it spin more.. 18.12.02 # you can look at the disk spinning icon in the status bar 18.12.30 # I don't know but flacs are usually much bigger 18.12.38 # yeah 18.12.39 # it is 18.12.50 # but i heard it is easier to decode.. 18.13.09 # markun: ? 18.13.11 # mp3 decoding is optimized well 18.13.27 # is there anyway to add my on result to the wiki for the battery benchmark? 18.14.30 # mp3 decoding only gives around 5hr and 38min of playtime for me 18.14.54 # if mp3 is optimized well, what else is screwin up the bat life? 18.15.21 # disk spinning? 18.15.28 # O.o 18.15.33 # buffering? 18.15.37 # Disk power off: yes 18.16.17 # load directories to ram etc 18.16.22 # I think I remember reading that the battery benchmarks on ipod don't work correctly, have you meashured the time, before it stops working? 18.16.28 Join Bloody_Sorcerer [0] (n=g@cpe-72-230-178-79.rochester.res.rr.com) 18.16.29 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.16.37 # otherwise it needs to spin up every time you browse 18.17.07 # turn off backlight :P 18.17.26 # lol 18.17.46 # dont use remote if you have one 18.17.49 # how do u load stuff into ram 18.17.55 # umm 18.18.05 Join theprodukkt [0] (n=Alex@hnvr-d9b8eaad.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.18.10 # i have about 2gb worth of song... 18.18.55 # hi all 18.18.55 # general settings -> System -> Disk -> Directory cache: On 18.18.56 # any news? 18.19.34 # general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Poweroff : Yes 18.19.38 # thats how i keep it 18.20.07 Join loco [0] (n=jochen@dslc-082-082-087-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.20.23 # i dont have disk poweroff 18.20.26 # i have disk spindown 18.20.28 # huh? 18.20.45 # i dont have 18.20.50 # general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Poweroff : Yes 18.20.53 # instad i have 18.21.00 # general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Spindown 18.21.01 # i have that + the 2 others totalling 3 options under "Disk" 18.21.16 # 2 option for me 18.21.27 # general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Spindown: 7s 18.21.33 # thats mine too 18.21.38 # how long bat life u get? 18.21.48 # dunno 18.21.54 # long enough :D 18.22.01 # lol 18.22.15 # what model u have? 18.22.29 # and what version buid 18.22.34 # iriver h120 18.22.38 # o 18.22.53 # my player kicks arse 18.22.56 # hehe 18.23.06 # PaulJam: regarding the tagnavi.config overwriting problem, wouldn't it make sense to not include it in the daily builds but have tagcache create it if it is not present? 18.23.13 # maybe the disk poweroff is not implimented on the ipoo.. 18.23.25 # that might be true 18.23.51 # maybe itll get added to the future builds 18.24.03 # lets hope 18.24.18 # i have no idea how much battery it is saving though 18.24.31 # for powering off the disk? 18.24.46 # but turing the hd off sounds major so i turned it on as soon as i got rockobox :o 18.24.54 # o0o 18.25.03 # @devs: how can intgrate strncap and strtok (they arent actually in curren rb version :/) 18.25.05 # and thats looooong time ago 18.25.43 # but well 18.25.46 # how do i use the directory chache thing 18.26.05 # general settings -> System -> Disk -> Directory cache: On 18.26.09 # yeah 18.26.10 # do you have that there? 18.26.13 # said i need to reboot 18.26.15 # i did 18.26.18 # ok 18.26.20 # and... what now? 18.26.21 # are there any disadvantages with the dir cache? 18.26.22 # its in use then 18.26.36 # you have a bit less ram for the music 18.26.43 # but very little 18.26.55 # what is different if i use it or not.... 18.26.59 # can u elaborate? 18.27.12 # your disk is NOT spinning when you browse directories 18.27.19 # o 18.27.29 # this saves batterly lifetime 18.27.44 # if i turn it off i can hear it spin un at the second when i start browsing 18.27.52 # ^^ 18.27.53 # kool 18.27.55 # ty 18.28.00 # np 18.28.03 # loco: this would propably work too, but i could imagine that having the contents of the tagnavi.config file in the sourcecode would increase the size unnecessarily (i'm not a programmer, so i'm not sure). another thing is, that it might be good to have the default tagnavi.config present for reference. 18.28.19 Nick Bloody_Sorcerer is now known as BloodySorcerer (n=g@cpe-72-230-178-79.rochester.res.rr.com) 18.28.36 # smoother GUI too 18.28.36 # but well, i got my prob sorted out 18.28.38 # do u know a site where i can get webspace with ftp access 4 free? 18.28.39 # take care 18.28.46 Part naap 18.28.48 # lol 18.29.32 # PaulJam: ok, that's good points. 18.30.21 # why are there soo many ppl online 18.30.26 # but not active? 18.31.02 # because it's IRC Idle Relay Chat ;p 18.31.06 # lol 18.31.08 # lolz 18.31.17 # they like to watch.... 18.31.22 # >.> 18.31.24 # porn? 18.31.32 # hm, not sure I've got this right... withTagCache Autoupdate on and Ram on, if I change some tags while iPod (mini2g btw) is plugged into my pc, then disconnect and reboot Rockbox, shouldn't the tags then be updated? 18.31.59 # I've also set it to auto dir cache and rebooted 18.32.02 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 18.32.50 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@213.227.196.177) 18.33.23 # TucknDar: currently no, only new/removed files get detected 18.33.59 # ah, ok, so I'm not going crazy. thanks 18.34.17 # nobody talks to me (ok its offtopic but ..) 18.34.19 # hey, do anyone here have any info about the crash thats happening to the 4gens? 18.34.30 # seems reallly really weird... 18.35.02 # Slasheri: what if I update a file? as in copy'n'overwrite file1.mp3 -> file1.mp3? will that update the tags? 18.35.19 # sorry, you said only New... 18.36.01 # I'll have to remove them, reboot, add new, eh? 18.36.50 Quit theli_ua (Client Quit) 18.37.31 # TucknDar: no difference 18.37.36 # yes 18.37.50 # but that will be fixed in future 18.38.46 # great, thanks 18.40.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.40.09 # I have problems with hang on tag uppdate and then the chache files beeing deleted when I restart the palyer... any hope of fixing that? 18.40.30 # I can't use tag navi as long as it's like that... 18.40.59 # mordov: did you try with the bleeding edge build? 18.41.27 # dayli builds... 18.41.34 Join |apo| [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-068-147.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.41.37 # it has been like this for weeks now 18.42.02 # I have nevver had a funktion tagchace for mor that to till tree restarts 18.42.11 # there was a bug that corrupts the db when removing entries 18.42.18 # but probably it should have been fixed now 18.42.24 # please try with the bleeding edge 18.42.24 # nothing removed... 18.42.45 # interesting.. then there is something wrong 18.42.45 # I only test the tagchace a few times a week to see if it's fixed but no luck so far ;) 18.43.05 # you should post a logfdump (needs a debug build) 18.43.20 # that should contain necessary information to fix the problem 18.43.23 # where do I do that? 18.43.40 # what model is your player? 18.43.45 # H-120 18.44.00 # with a lot of files... 18.44.05 # mordov: i think that tagcache can't handle files thet have album art in the tags, maybe it helps if you rewrite the tags of your files and remove the covers. 18.44.16 # !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18.44.25 # mordov: then you can try with this: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox-full.zip 18.44.30 # it has debug options turned on 18.44.51 # but do _not_ touch the plugins, especially the flash plugin as it can permanently destroy your player 18.45.13 # sometimes it builds the whole chace but then if I press uppdate somtimes it hangs 18.45.20 # and that is when the chache is deleted 18.45.39 # ok wount do the plugins :) 18.45.48 # mordov: then after you have built tagcache, run logfdump from the debug menu and upload /.rockbox/logf.txt 18.46.02 # and after tagcache fails, do that again 18.46.38 # and when it hangs, you might see some information on the remote controller display 18.47.22 Part loco 18.47.59 # ok I'll use the romote for a while :) 18.48.01 # out of curiousity, appx how many mp3 players have the devs broken during development of Rockbox? 18.48.23 # none i think 18.48.23 # I think I have to ask you agein for uppload :) 18.48.40 # TucknDar, thank god for those GDB ports 18.50.08 # chendo, sorry, dunno what GDB ports are? explain, please? 18.51.38 # think some sort of debug port 18.51.42 # as far as i know, anyway 18.52.28 Quit CYPER^ () 18.52.58 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED9A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.54.04 # ah, ok, so the devs aren't actually testing on a bunch of players... which I suppose makes sense... duh 18.54.16 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.55.19 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 18.55.48 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.56.25 # linux 18.56.32 # u still workin on the fix? 18.58.35 Quit apo` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.00.47 # <.> 19.01.47 Quit chendo (Remote closed the connection) 19.02.05 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-94-201.dyn.iinet.net.au) 19.03.41 # (> ' ')> 19.03.52 # <(' ' <) 19.07.22 # Drkepilogue: I don't think the problem is what I thought it was... Does it work if you try and load the normal rockbox.ipod, instead of the experimental build? 19.07.54 # the normal one, it works 19.08.03 # the expermental build.. nope... 19.08.20 # i can try installin the experimental build 19.08.26 # as "primaryP 19.08.32 # and the lastes at 2ndary... 19.08.37 # and see of that work... 19.09.26 # but then agian.. 19.09.41 # the experimental wont have ROLO... do i cant do that.. >.> 19.13.56 # linux 19.14.01 # the problem is load another frimware... 19.14.08 # just dled a buld yesterday 19.14.15 # and same thing happened 19.14.54 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 19.21.21 # also, linux, after this, what else are you planning to work on? 19.22.50 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.23.02 Join Drkepilogue [0] (n=478de5b0@labb.contactor.se) 19.32.12 Part theprodukkt 19.38.22 # nite yall 19.38.40 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.47.29 Join San [0] (n=San@A-79-106.cust.iol.ie) 19.47.29 Quit BloodySorcerer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.53.35 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 20.06.25 Quit TucknDar () 20.09.15 Join merbanan [0] (i=banan@farmer.campus.luth.se) 20.11.04 Join _Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 20.12.52 Join dhr [0] (n=hugh@72.56.139.67) 20.13.32 Join webguest33 [0] (n=c22ee975@labb.contactor.se) 20.15.38 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.18.18 Join jsMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@24-180-96-186.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 20.18.46 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-233-117.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 20.19.20 Quit webguest33 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.22.32 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.23.13 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 20.26.58 Quit mmbuffalo ("Leaving") 20.29.45 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.32.23 # soap still here 20.40.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.44.19 Quit Poka64 ("XChat 2.6.4 - www.xchat.org") 20.46.47 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 20.51.37 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 20.56.41 Join San [0] (n=San@213-202-179-148.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 20.58.36 Join San||Emo [0] (n=San@213-202-179-148.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 20.58.44 Quit Rondom ("rebooting....") 21.03.59 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.08.18 Join San] [0] (n=San@213-202-179-148.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 21.09.45 Quit San||Emo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.15.13 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 21.15.29 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.18.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp43-26.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.23.22 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.26.59 Quit Poka64 ("XChat 2.6.6 - www.xchat.org") 21.30.07 # * jsMikeS wonders where RaeNye has been 21.31.28 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 21.32.35 # i just made a few wps's can i upload them onto the server or do i have to put them on my own file hosting site 21.33.27 # Are the patches for your WPS available on the patch tracker? 21.34.17 # no its a modified version of jbuild like half of the wps's out 21.37.37 # I'm thinking that if the patches aren't available in the tracker, the WPSes shouldn't be in our gallery. There are some now, but I'm going to suggest that it change to at least that minimum requirement. 21.37.58 # ok 21.38.23 # wow. do you know how hard it is to find a pro ie wallpaper 21.39.17 # No, and I probably never will 21.39.55 # im not using it. im putting it my wps pack 21.41.56 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED9A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.46.15 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 21.46.48 # An IE wallpaper? 21.47.28 # yah 21.49.40 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.53.00 # Like, a backdrop for Rockbox? 22.01.45 Join theprodukkt [0] (n=Alex@hnvr-d9b8ebaf.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.01.51 Part theprodukkt 22.03.12 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 22.03.18 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED9A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.06.08 # yah 22.07.57 Join CYPER^ [0] (i=CYPER@user-5766.lns4-c13.telh.dsl.pol.co.uk) 22.08.39 # why I can't make Tagcache to work 22.08.51 # it doesn't show that screen: Artist, Song .... 22.09.00 # I have around 3000 songs on my ipod 22.09.07 # but it shows them in folders 22.09.32 Quit Nilisco (Remote closed the connection) 22.09.38 Quit _Nilisco (Remote closed the connection) 22.10.05 Join webguest60 [0] (n=0cce175e@labb.contactor.se) 22.11.07 Quit webguest60 (Client Quit) 22.12.16 # CYPER^: You didn't follow all the instructions. 22.13.03 # ok let's see: brb 5 minutes 22.13.36 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.13.53 # To force the database to be built, go to the main menu, then General Settings -> File View -> Force tag cache update. 22.14.00 # That's out of date. 22.14.14 # General Settings -> File View -> Tag Cache -> Initialize Now, if my memory serves 22.14.15 # then where can I see the up to date instructions? 22.14.23 # I did that 22.14.31 # And then you restarted your player? 22.14.38 # the hard drive started spinning for like 5 minutes 22.14.41 # I waited for it to stop 22.14.43 # then restarted 22.14.47 # and still the same 22.14.51 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d04m-213-44-61-165.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.15.04 # Did you change the file view mode from filetree to ID3 Database? 22.15.11 # oh shit no :) 22.15.17 # maybe that's the problem 22.15.20 # That's in the instructions too. :-P 22.15.27 # thank you man :) 22.15.31 # I'll try it now 22.16.57 # it works 22.16.58 # yeah 22.17.01 # thanks again 22.19.57 Quit Rondom_ ("well, another reboot. bbl hopefully with a new kernel") 22.21.42 # another problem: first it said: no .rockbox directory. install incomplete 22.21.53 # then error updating playlist control file 22.22.53 # But is it all working now? 22.23.37 # no 22.23.46 # when I browse the ID3 Database by Track 22.23.57 # it shows the second warning: error updating playlist control file 22.24.21 # Did it show the missing .rockbox error when you booted? 22.25.44 # let's try 22.26.18 # now it shows Commiting Tagcache 22.26.20 # 5/13 22.26.23 # 6/13 22.26.24 # and so on 22.26.30 # ready 22.26.53 # And does TagCache work now? 22.27.15 # when I browse the tracks and select one to play it showed: searching ... 1300 found 22.27.19 # OFF to abort 22.27.24 # now 2000 found 22.27.31 # and still searching up to 4000 22.27.46 # still searching 22.27.58 # How many tracks on your player? 22.28.55 # about 4000, but it's still searching and showing 5500 found 22.29.04 # that's strange 22.29.08 # finished 22.29.14 # I guess they are around 5800 22.29.32 # aaaaaaaaaa shit 22.29.41 # on every select to play it starts to search 22.29.42 # now again 22.29.59 # Well it does have to file them into the playlist... 22.30.22 # for how long? 22.30.36 # However long it took 22.31.34 # and why when I plus it into the computer just shows the USB logo on the screen but doesn't show in my computers? 22.31.38 # my computer 22.31.42 # plug it 22.32.01 # 5G? 22.32.40 # dionoea: yes? 22.33.12 # 4G 22.33.16 # black and white 22.33.21 # Hm 22.33.22 # markun: well too late, i commited :) 22.33.27 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.33.35 # hm now after 2 minutes it showed in my computer 22.33.36 # CYPER^: Can you successfully boot into the Apple fw? 22.33.49 # I haven't tried but I believe Yes 22.34.52 # I have just 6.36MB free space 22.34.56 # is that a problem 22.35.23 Join bluebrother [0] (i=7ITFPRcV@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 22.35.46 # aaaa again searching when I try to play a rack 22.35.47 # track 22.35.59 # I told you it'll search each time, to add the rest of the tracks into the playlist 22.36.11 # If you have dircache enabled it should take less time 22.36.12 Part Paul_The_Nerd 22.36.38 # but why from the beggining, each time 5800 tracks 22.36.47 # it takes 2 minutes each time 22.37.03 # I have enabled that options to Load to RAM 22.37.26 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.38.57 # again and again Searching... 22.40.05 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 22.40.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.43.21 # no really I don't understand that 22.43.33 # whenever I want to play a track it starts to search 22.43.39 # for 2 minutes it's searching 22.43.40 # for what? 22.43.50 # I can see all the songs in the tracks section 22.43.55 # why does it search them again 22.48.06 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.25 # CYPER^: maybe a reboot helps 22.48.33 # would someone be kind enough, to tell me how to use iram inside of a plugin ? :) 22.49.15 # markun I rebooted it a couple of times 22.49.37 # same things: click the middle button to play a song and it starts to search till 5800 songs 22.50.10 # CYPER^: perhaps file a detailed bug report for someone to look at 22.50.43 # lodesi: look at midiplay.c and mp3_encoder.c 22.51.39 # that's what i did, but the iramcopy[], iramstart[]... are little cryptic for me :'( 22.52.12 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.52.14 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 22.54.36 # CYPER^: have you rebooted after you have set tagcache to use ram? and do you have dircache enabled? 22.55.07 # dircached is enabled 22.55.10 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 22.55.14 # and I disabled Load to RAM 22.55.24 # also Autoupdate is disabled 22.55.43 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 22.55.44 # enable the ram option, it speeds tagcache up a lot. 22.55.47 # lodesi: just add IBSS_ATTR at the end of the variable declarations of the things you want in IRAM and copy the code in #ifdef USE_IRAM from midiplay.c 22.55.59 # 6356 Songs 22.56.23 # markun: ok, i'll try this, thx 22.56.46 # and why there is no info how long will it take to update, when I press Update now 22.56.50 # * ender` yawns 22.56.53 # like showing how many songs left 22.57.13 # maybe under info => debug => tagcache info 22.57.46 # Initilized: Yes 22.57.52 # DB Ready: Yes 22.57.58 # Ram Cache: No 22.58.07 # Ram: 0/0 B 22.58.19 # Progres: 0% (0 entries) 22.58.24 # commit step 0 22.58.32 # commit delayed: No 22.58.41 # that's strange 22.58.42 # Progres: 0% (0 entries) 22.58.51 # I have just 6MB free space 22.58.55 # could that be a problem 22.59.03 # not enough space for building the DB 22.59.06 # Only if it can't create the .tcd files 22.59.26 # how big can they get for 6300 songs DB 22.59.27 # maybe, i usually have 500MiB of ree space 22.59.37 # markun: btw, my fix to the "overlapping letters" problem could be improved (if you have time :) ). Each letter currently takes a fixed amount of space. For FONT_UI that's kind of stupid (and not always very readable) 23.01.38 # CYPER^: i don't think that the hd space is a problem, on my device wit ~2600 files the tagcache files only have a size of 370KiB. 23.02.34 # then can I delete all the Tagcache files, so I can start all over again with the whole process? 23.02.47 # which files should I delete? 23.02.51 # All the .tcd files 23.03.00 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.03.09 # tagcache_idx.tcd = 348KB 23.03.18 # tagcache_4.tcd = 424KB 23.03.28 # tagcache_3.tcd = 142KB 23.03.34 # all the rest are small in size 23.03.39 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.04.08 Nick obo_ is now known as obo (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.04.38 # can I delete .playlist_control 23.04.49 Quit bondolo ("Cya!") 23.05.11 # Yes 23.05.34 # let's try again 23.05.46 # now I disconnect the player from the PC 23.05.52 # then it boots up the rockbox 23.05.52 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.06.03 # then I go to the menu and select Initilize Now 23.06.07 # CYPER^: and set tagcache to use ram. 23.06.17 # and reboot after that? 23.06.17 # it's set 23.06.26 # reboot right away? 23.06.32 # immediately 23.06.38 # when the disk stops spinning 23.06.42 # it sais something like ..... in background 23.06.50 # and the disk starts spinning 23.07.00 # ok so after stopping stipping 23.07.01 # ok 23.07.26 # booted 23.07.36 # now it shows: Scanning disk 23.07.40 # for like 20 seconds 23.08.05 # ok: Initialized 23.08.13 # now waiting for the disk to stop spinning 23.09.13 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 23.10.20 # it stopped 23.10.24 # too quickly :( 23.10.25 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED9A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.10.55 # booted 23.10.58 # again Scanning Disk 23.11.28 # Commiting Tagcache 7/13 23.11.28 # Previously I put ust 13 songs 23.11.33 # just 23.11.42 # I think it remembers them from before 23.11.49 # I'll delete the whole rockbox folder 23.11.52 # No, that has nothing to do with how many songs.. 23.11.58 # * Bagder announces that we are now... 54 committers 23.12.20 # hm then how will you explain the previously I put exactly 13 songs 23.13.02 # Bagder: Is that up from 51, or 53? 23.13.15 # CYPER^: Coincidence. 23.13.16 # from 53, two more invites are still pending 23.13.21 # Which one was accepted? 23.14.09 # Raenye is in 23.14.14 # Cool 23.14.32 # * Paul_The_Nerd goes to do the forum bit. 23.15.58 # hm now I played a track and the searching was exremely fast - 1 second 23.16.05 # let's try another song 23.16.29 # cool - faster searching - 2 seconds 23.17.23 # Another problem - On one screen there are 6300 songs, scrolling is not accelarated and will take 10 minutes to go to the bottom 23.17.31 # any patch about that? 23.17.42 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.18.05 # There is a scrolling acceleration patch, yes. 23.18.25 # CYPER^: why don't you select tracks by artist>album>track 23.19.03 # I'll do it that way most of the time, but it will be nice if there is scrolling accelaration 23.19.13 # there is a patch about that for the video ipod 23.19.31 # oh shit not 23.19.45 # in artist there are again way to many lines (artist) 23.19.54 # scrolling to the bottom is impossible 23.23.20 Join xoder [0] (n=xoder@cpe-24-193-79-187.nyc.res.rr.com) 23.23.54 # any ideas? 23.25.25 # CYPER^: if you know how to compile, you could try this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5594 23.25.59 # I have no idea how to compile :( 23.26.10 # then you could try this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5429.0 23.26.10 # what will hapen if I install it like that on the 4G? 23.26.25 # hopefully I have daily HTML versions of the manual going tomorrow 23.26.34 # both live HTML and zip 23.26.57 # CYPER^: You can't use a build for a different version of iPod 23.27.13 # Bagder: That ought to be nice. 23.27.39 # example URL: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-build.html 23.29.27 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED9A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.32.01 # Bagder, great ;-) 23.32.41 # bluebrother: Could you add a target for a single HTML file? It's hard to search the manual when it's split... 23.33.18 # linuxstb, I'll do that. But give me some days, I'm really busy otherwise atm :( 23.33.47 # No problem. 23.34.13 # example HTML manual in a single zip: ihttp://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5-20060723-html.zip 23.34.24 # well, except for the silly extra 'i' 23.37.31 # I don't think it's silly. The extra 'i' seems to be good for marketing ;) 23.37.53 # ihttp? Is this a new protocol? ;-) 23.38.10 # let's rename rockbox to iRockbox :) 23.39.03 # Well, we do only port to players starting with "i" 23.39.14 # iArchos? 23.39.21 # iSansa? 23.39.24 # hehe :) 23.39.31 # iGigabeat? 23.39.39 # ok, ok, .... 23.40.40 # iPod and iAudio are done :) 23.41.50 Part Paul_The_Nerd 23.42.08 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 23.45.24 # * linuxstb looks at the list of things which don't work on the ipods and disagrees that they're done... 23.46.37 # bye, be back another day. 23.46.41 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 23.47.04 # Is there a TODO list for iPods anywhere? 23.47.55 # what's a good dap that has a line-in jack? 23.48.00 # Hmm, something is really wrong with tagcache 23.48.06 # dan_a: Not really - I was just thinking the same thing. There's the IpodStatus page, but that's not been kept up to date. 23.49.01 # juxtap: The irivers - H1x0 and H3x0, plus the old Archoses. Not sure about any others (assuming you mean a Rockbox-able player). 23.49.08 # the to-do list is recursive. First item is "Make ipod to-do list" 23.49.26 # no i mean any player 23.49.50 # btw, will rockbox eventually support most players? 23.50.33 # In terms of numbers of sold units, the ipod port means it supports most players... 23.50.50 # i s'pose 23.54.24 # i've just registered on the wiki as AntoineCellerier. Can someone add me to the "i am not a spambot" group ? 23.54.35 # and we will always just support the players people have eager interest to get supported 23.57.40 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 23.58.07 # what license is prefered for artwork, etc? 23.58.35 # Creative Commons i guess