--- Log for 24.07.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 5 hours ago 00.01.16 # Bagder: that's great news on the success with the Sansa 00.01.36 # oh yes, very thrilling 00.01.48 # what is involved in testing it on the H10? 00.01.53 # good night everyone 00.02.17 Quit CYPER^ () 00.02.24 # barrywardell: 1) decrypt the mi4 2) hand-edit some non-important string in the image 00.02.52 # barrywardell: 3) encrypt it again with the same key and edit out the DSA-signatures with 1 + 0 00.03.09 # I just uploaded a fresh mi4code.c that should be helpful 00.03.18 # great 00.03.25 # i'll have a look and try it out 00.04.27 # ah, the new mi4code makes step 3 pretty easy 00.04.33 # as well 00.04.41 # Is there any way on the H10 to recover from a bad mi4? 00.05.08 Join desrt [0] (n=desrt@ubuntu/member/desrt) 00.05.17 # i think so 00.05.20 # hello, hackers 00.05.30 # we might soon find out :-P 00.05.30 # a few simple questions -- 00.05.38 # what is the chance of rockbox bricking my ipod? 00.05.49 # desrt: very close to no risk at all 00.06.00 # desrt: AFAIK, no-one has managed it so far - not even developers. 00.06.04 # the ipod (presumably) has a DSP on which mp3 decompression occurs 00.06.11 # nope 00.06.14 # Nope, just an ARM CPU. 00.06.16 # does rockbox use this DSP to play vorbis or does it do it in straight-up software on the main processor? 00.06.19 # crikey! 00.06.28 # apple does mp3/aac decoding in software? 00.06.33 # yes 00.06.37 # weird 00.06.37 # Yes. Most modern DAPs do. 00.06.59 # is rockbox battery life comparable to stock firmware? 00.07.19 # On every player apart from the ipod it's better than the stock firmware. On the ipods, it's worse at the moment. 00.07.30 # what is 'worse'? 00.07.30 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@207-237-225-94.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 00.07.39 # linuxstb: i hope it should be easy to recover. the H10 can work as a UMS device even without the mi4 00.07.39 # and the X5 00.08.05 # dionoea: was that you with the /n commit for keyboard.c? 00.08.07 # The X5 seems to be getting very close, last I heard. 00.08.26 # desrt: Some example runtimes with Rockbox are here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime 00.08.32 # very awesome. 00.08.33 # but, atm, it is still not better than stock =) 00.08.59 # Mmmm: yeah ... i hope that it was alright. I was trying to load custom keyboards and i ended up having to pad lines with loads of spaces myself (and the number of spaces depended on the font) 00.09.03 # barrywardell: the sansa has a neat recovery mode for that case and I would actually assume that the h10 does too 00.09.35 Quit alberink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.09.40 # dionoea: yeah that's great..I was just going to apologise for my stupidity in getting rid of one of your lines! :D 00.09.47 # well that's ok 00.09.48 # y'all have been very informative. i think i'll buy an ipod now and install rockbox on it. 00.09.54 # btw, did you see the patch on the tracker ? 00.10.04 # nope 00.10.08 # what patch? 00.10.13 Quit freqmod ("Konversation terminated!") 00.10.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5703 00.10.15 # one last question -- personal preference - who would buy a nano and would would buy a harddrive? 00.10.25 # it kind of does what you did ... but differently 00.10.44 # desrt: See i'd be torn. 00.10.52 # Now that rockbox runs on ipods it makes them 100% more appealing 00.10.57 # TeaSeaLancs; i am torn, perhaps for many of the same reason for you 00.11.04 # (Although 0 x 100 = 0 still) 00.11.06 # I'd buy a nano if I wasn't so indecisive. I have no idea what I'm going to listen to any given day. 00.11.15 # desrt: My current is an X5, and I <3 it. 00.11.17 # TeaSeaLancs; you did your math wrong :) 00.11.23 Quit xoder (Remote closed the connection) 00.11.26 # dionoea: hmmm. I dont think there is much point in having a separate keyboard for the remote... 00.11.27 # desrt: wtf. 00.11.28 # i have an iaudio g3 and it just died 00.11.30 # 0 x 100 = 0. 00.11.41 # TeaSeaLancs; but "100% more appealing" is x2, not x100 :) 00.12.02 # dionoea: if you want more chars you just have to put them in the main keyboard eh? 00.12.08 # desrt: But 0 interest x2 = 0 interest x100 = 0 interest xinfinity 00.12.08 # :D 00.12.17 # hence my maths is irrelevant. 00.12.17 # Mmmm: well i don't own any player with a remote... so i don't really care 00.12.22 # :D 00.12.23 # you still failed my maths class :p 00.12.31 # Thank god you're not a lecturer at my uni then. 00.12.32 # hmm... that looks like a nice patch for the x5 that was just submitted 00.12.34 # :) 00.12.49 # anyway, time to get some sleep now 00.12.53 # Still, Whilst I do like HD players, flash ones are smaller and less prone to breakage. 00.13.01 # I guess it'll just depend on what's out when I next decide to get one. 00.13.12 # goffa_: raenye was just given commit access, we might see some more x5 action now 00.13.13 # anyone who has an ipod 5g, im posting my 5 wps for jbuild on the ipv board 00.13.20 # cool Bagder 00.13.29 # i'm going to go compile the new fw now :) 00.13.30 # At the moment the only decent (recent) HD player out is the G5, and that's only because it runs rockbox. 00.14.14 # i loved my G3. it was awesome. 00.14.19 # weeks of play on a single AA battery 00.14.30 # vorbis, nice and loud 00.14.36 # then the headphone jack went :( 00.14.39 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 00.14.51 # :( 00.14.58 # you tossed a player over the headphone jack? 00.15.05 # hey quick question, can i post pics on the forum? 00.15.07 # i tried to fix it. no avail. 00.15.11 # I wish there was open source phone firmware as well :D 00.15.17 # I'll toss you 25 bucks for it. 00.15.30 # it's really tiny on the inside and i'd have to pry it apart in a way that would involve soldier to fix it 00.15.30 # Bagder: what is the reason for not patching the mi4 bootloader to ignore the DSA signature check ? 00.15.51 # because its even nicer not to touch the BL 00.16.20 # and 2) its harder to disable the check by auto 00.16.41 # yes, but do you have have the private key ? 00.16.52 # hehe, we have the best short-cut 00.17.12 # we use DSA(1,0) for the r/s values 00.17.17 # and it just works 00.17.33 # it is most likely a bug 00.17.37 # that we can exploit 00.17.38 # :) 00.17.48 # even mentioned in official DSA specs 00.17.52 # ok, then I understand 00.17.58 # but obviously not cared for by PP 00.18.13 # (or however did the DSA parts in this case) 00.19.00 # Bagder: why did they even bother with DSA when they give out the bootloader 00.19.23 # God knows 00.19.39 # Bagder: do you have any links to the DSA(1,0) thing ? 00.19.53 # the new mi4code.t has code for it 00.20.02 # and I'm currently writing docs for it 00.20.31 # Bagder: I ment the official DSA specs 00.20.35 # ah, no 00.20.42 # just got this info by MrH 00.20.55 # *I* just talk, I don't actually do anything ;*) 00.21.14 # Bagder: well it's quite an achivement 00.21.20 # yeah 00.21.29 # it'll be interesting to see if the same trick works on the h10 00.21.59 # because then a rockbox port for H10 should be... well, perhaps not easy but at least feasable 00.22.27 # Bagder: is the sansa failsafe, if you flash a bad firmware ? 00.22.32 # yes 00.22.37 # I did it yday ;-) 00.23.31 Quit ender` (" A psychiatrist is a fellow who asks you a lot of expensive questions your wife asks for nothing.") 00.24.11 # barrywardell: the new mi4code can also decode the h10 BL hex file 00.24.24 # wow, that's great 00.24.34 # "mi4code" is becoming a generic decode/encode whatever tool ;-) 00.24.34 # i'm just trying to get it compiled now 00.24.44 # installing the dependencies 00.25.06 # when the DSA signing was discovered I though the only thing that would work was to modify the bootloader 00.25.17 # yeah, so did we 00.25.24 # and mi4code can do that too 00.25.35 # : / 00.25.45 # I hate feeling lost with all these terms. 00.27.15 # yay.. led is off :) 00.27.45 # Landus: google! ;-) 00.28.06 # It is possible to Google everything and the be able to understand the information? 00.28.10 # I tend to have that problem. 00.28.18 # Not understanding what I'm processing. 00.28.20 # it is, it just takes looong time 00.28.22 # wikipedia! 00.28.22 # Like subnetting. 00.30.08 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5442.0 <5g users 00.31.17 # neat 00.31.29 # thank you 00.31.54 # they took like 10 minutes to do after the first one which i finished last night 00.35.11 # any consturctive critisicm would be greatly appreciated 00.35.30 # BigMac: why don't you use a bigger font, like in the original blackglass theme? 00.35.43 # dan_a: Why have you changed your cpu scaling patch to leave the maximum speed at 75MHz? Did you get problems? Or does MP3 now decode at 75MHz? 00.35.48 # thats the only font i have on my ipod 00.35.59 # im trying to figure out how to get more now 00.36.23 # BigMac: look on the daily builds page 00.36.27 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/fonts/rockbox-fonts-20060723.zip 00.36.40 # yah i just dled it:-) 00.36.43 # located where he said =) 00.36.50 # i just paste it into rockbox? 00.37.08 # .rockbox 00.37.36 # im not sure how to code it to auto use a certain font yet 00.37.38 # linuxstb: I figured that one change at a time was probably a better way to get patches accepted 00.37.45 # but if i figure it out ill update them 00.38.10 # Bagder: did you read what i said a while back about that bug still existing in one other form? 00.38.16 # I've had no problems at 90MHz, and at the moment 75MHz will probably be too slow 00.38.34 # someone with wiki access should really edit the installation instructions and mention, that the fonts are seperately available. 00.39.03 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@69-160-90-210.chvlva.adelphia.net) 00.40.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.40.14 # Bagder: It still has issues if you have the cursor on the last entry, hit menu, and return from menu 00.40.30 # what are you talking about? 00.41.23 # BigMac: look at the .cfg files in the .rockbox/themes folder, to see how to specify a font for the wps/theme. 00.41.37 # k thank you pauljam 00.42.54 # btw, there is no downloadlink in your post (or i'm too dumb to find it). 00.43.44 # no i believe im to dumb to remember it:-X 00.43.56 # Bagder: remember the bug about it not reloading the directory and not showing the last entry (with it being below the bottom viewable threshold)? 00.44.04 # no 00.44.57 # I think you confuse me with someone else on that topic 00.45.03 # " Correct calculation of number of lines in the textarea with the button bar enabled. Fixes a bug where the file browser screwed up when wrapping backwards." 00.45.16 # possibly... 00.45.42 Join Mmmm_ [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 00.49.32 # k it has a link now 00.51.30 # ermmm The default contrast seems to have been changed to 38 (on Irivers) which is nearly black! 00.52.55 # to me it looks like the commit only changed the value for the x5 00.52.59 # hmm 00.53.12 # how hard is it to convert a fnt to .fnt 00.54.17 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-49-6.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.54.34 # Bagder: hmmm and yet here i have a 38 when i reset the settings 00.54.48 # yes, and the code says 38 00.54.58 # and it did even before Raynye's commit 00.55.10 # so, 38 has got darker! 00.56.17 # perhaps... 00.56.41 Quit Mmmm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.56.49 Nick Mmmm_ is now known as Mmmm (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 00.57.16 # does lcd_default_contrast() return 38 then? 00.57.18 # good news 00.57.33 # i managed to boot a modified firmware on my H10 00.57.40 # great! 00.57.51 # just 1 string changed 00.57.58 # but its a start 00.58.01 # good enough 00.58.21 # this is exciting 00.59.09 # i wish o knew more about this stuff. I'm still only just learning! 00.59.59 # well, you're the first known person to run a modified firmware on your H10 ;-) 01.00.11 # that's exciting 01.00.23 # barrywardell: what version of firmware is it ? 01.00.31 # a 010301 one 01.00.32 # 2.51 01.00.47 # 20GC/MTP ? 01.00.52 # does the h10 have a recovery mode like the sansa? 01.00.56 # merbanan: yes 01.01.10 # PaulJam: yes it does. 01.02.34 # it can recover from a bad mi4. probably not from a bad bootloader 01.03.33 # just another reason to avoid patching that 01.03.42 # barrywardell: Are you tempted to attempt a Rockbox port? 01.04.01 # anyone know were i can dl some .fnt files 01.04.07 # i tried google already 01.04.27 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/ 01.05.13 Join Mmmm_ [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 01.06.05 # linuxstb: i haven't really got any experience with reverse engineering a firmware or anything like that 01.06.21 # * linuxstb wishes raenye would write more meaningful cvs log messages... 01.06.36 # barrywardell: Nor had I before I started working on the ipod port... 01.06.44 # i would like to contribute to the effort 01.07.08 # Do you know C? 01.07.17 # yes 01.07.26 # Then no problem. :) 01.07.48 # but i haven't worked on hardware drivers before 01.08.24 # You won't be starting from scratch - a lot of the ipod port will work on the H10. 01.09.02 # i heard that. 01.09.37 # barrywardell 01.09.47 # nm typo 01.11.06 # * Bagder tries to bribe MrH into joining us by offering a free Sansa ;-) 01.11.27 # But then we'll know who he (or she) is... 01.11.39 # yeah, at least I :-) 01.13.55 # Bagder: I'll sponsor with a beer 01.15.26 Join BloodySorcerer [0] (n=g@cpe-72-230-178-79.rochester.res.rr.com) 01.15.37 # what would be the next step towards getting rockbox working on the H10? 01.17.49 # Personally, I would attempt to get a minimal Rockbox bootloader running using the ipod code that we think will work on any PP5020. This would be without LCD or button drivers, but the ATA interface should work - so a small program which created a file on disk, as proof that it was working. 01.18.07 # a very good idea 01.18.14 # it could even be tested on sansa 01.19.42 Quit Mmmm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.20.07 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 01.20.58 # so should i look at the ipod code? 01.21.03 # any suggestions where to start? 01.21.21 Join k8to [0] (i=francois@kmods.dyndns.org) 01.22.15 Quit Mmmm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.22.21 # barrywardell: get the code, build a bootloader 01.22.36 Quit k8to_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.23.17 # Yes, you could just choose an existing target (e.g. the 4g ipod), build the bootloader, but remove the calls in bootloader/ipod.c to the lcd functions, and remove the ipod-specific button code (and anything else you see which is ipod specific. 01.25.35 Quit obo ("bye") 01.25.48 # Bagder: Do you know enough to build your own .mi4 file from a Rockbox bootloader? 01.25.55 # yes 01.28.55 # * Bagder has now added a "howto" description on his mi4 page 01.29.10 # how to upgrade to a modified firmware 01.32.27 # hey were can i dl the tool that converts bdf to fnt? 01.32.59 # its in the rockbox source 01.33.04 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 01.33.20 # convbdf 01.33.33 # i can't just dl it? 01.33.50 # sure, if you someone who has binaries for you 01.34.01 # uh, "find someone" 01.34.20 # http://qupada.orcon.net.nz/convbdf.exe 01.34.32 # all it did was flash up the command prompt 01.35.13 # confbdf is a comandline tool (no gui) 01.35.26 # oh ok 01.36.17 # im in the comman line. the file i want to convert is in C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\My Documents\BDF FONT FILES 01.36.24 # what command do i type 01.36.38 # convbdf then what 01.37.21 # If you just type "convbdf" by itself, then it will give you instructions - most command-line tools do that. 01.38.27 # (which is another way of saying I've never used convbdf, so don't know how to use it) 01.38.39 # oh ok 01.38.40 Quit sidolin ("Ex-Chat") 01.38.42 # linuxstb: I've just done some testing, and MP3s don't skip if you are not on the WPS even with the processor at 75MHz as long as libmad is compiled using "-O" 01.40.05 # I should try the same on my 4g ipod, but I don't have many MP3s to hand (and it's also late...) 01.40.28 # But congratulations on achieving realtime playback (sort-of). 01.40.42 # Thank you! 01.41.57 # When I learn enough, I'll do some proper optimisations. For now, though it'll just have to be simple things like that. 01.42.14 # this stinks 01.42.21 # it keeps giving me an error 01.42.37 # does anyone have convbdf on there computer 01.43.03 # what font are you trying to convert? 01.43.09 Quit lodesi ("Parti") 01.43.22 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.43.26 # AajaxSurrealFont_12.bdf 01.43.57 # soap do you have convbdf on your computer 01.44.18 # dan_a: Looking at your patch, am I right in thinking that libmad is now compiled with "-O2 -O" on the 3g? Does the second -O cancel out the first? 01.45.26 # linuxstb: As I understand it, the last optimisation level is the one which is used. I'll double check, though 01.46.20 Join San [0] (n=San@212.2.179.159) 01.46.25 # I'm not sure if adding the "extramadopts" variable to configure is the cleanest solution though - we could end up with lots of those variables if all the codecs need different optimisation options on different targets. 01.46.31 # Yes - in GCC at least the last option is the one which is effective 01.48.21 # I didn't think I'd be able to do an #ifdef type thing in a Makefile, and this was a fairly clean way 01.48.48 # (in that settings for one target wouldn't mess with those for another target) 01.48.55 # You can't do #ifdef, but I think other Makefiles do things on a per-target basis... 01.50.21 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.21 # Oh, you can do ifdefs (see apps/codecs/Makefile) 01.51.12 # Yes, but Makefiles don't have access to everything defined in config-ipod3g.h 01.51.24 # The only thing you can use to identify the target is the TARGET variable. 01.52.03 # i.e. the variables defined in the Makefile in your build directory. 01.52.12 # I'll rework the patch to use that then 01.52.39 # I prefer that since it means I only modify one file 01.52.56 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-233-117.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 01.53.36 # OK. 01.56.11 # Bagder: if I compile the iPod bootloader, how to I turn it into a mi4 file? 01.56.52 # hm, first I need to check how the ipod bootloader looks ;-) 01.57.50 # * Bagder checks... 01.58.40 # One good thing (for you) about the ipod bootloader, is that it's as minimal as possible in terms of initialising hardware - this is to keep the Apple firmware happy when it boots it. 01.59.03 # can someone tell me were exactly in the wiki is the program that converts ttf to bdf 01.59.27 Part pixelma 01.59.40 # BigMac: it's not in the wiki 02.01.19 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.01.34 # barrywardell_: in fact, I'm not exactly sure 02.02.12 # Bagder: I can't immediately see anything bad in the bootloader - if you removed all the lcd and button code, it might work... system_init() in fact does nothing in the bootloader. kernel_init() should be OK on any PP5020 02.02.39 # but what does the ipod bootloader start with? I mean at offset 0 in the binary image+ 02.02.40 # ? 02.03.10 # do i have to compile font forge also? 02.03.42 # Isn't that the reset vector? I'm sure the first instruction (i.e. vector) is just a simple branch to the startup code in crt0.S 02.04.12 # Ah no, forget that... 02.04.13 # I was just a bit surprised since they don't look like exeception vectors to me 02.04.47 # No, they're not. 02.05.26 # On the ipod at least, DRAM starts life mapped to 0x1000000, and the exception vectors are in flash, which is mapped to 0x00000000. 02.06.00 # let me rephrase that: do i have to compile fontforge using cygwin if i want to convert my ttf to bdf? or is their an installer or alternative program? 02.06.15 # The code in crt0.S remaps the DRAM to 0x00000000, and copies the exception vectors to the start of DRAM from a temporary copy. 02.06.34 Quit San] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.40 # ah, ok 02.06.59 # In fact, that's the main Rockbox startup code. 02.07.09 # for the mi4-ones we need an exception vector table in the beginning 02.07.13 # In the bootloader, interrupts are never enabled, so we never set the exception vectors. 02.07.20 # BigMac: have you at least googled for fontforge? i would be surprised if there are no binaries available. 02.07.33 # (and memory isn't remapped in the bootloader) 02.08.48 # barrywardell_: so we basically need to prepend an exception table and have the reset vector go to the start of the bootloader code 02.08.49 # yes i have 02.09.05 # well if i have to compile it then i give up 02.09.23 # but now I need sleep badly, g'dnight 02.09.34 # i hate how much of a hassle it is to make all these things work 02.09.59 # i'm not too sure how to do that 02.10.11 # Bagder: Goodnight. Sleep time for me too. 02.10.34 # i just spent an hour trying to find a good converter that converted to bdf then once i did get it to bdf, i found out it wouldnt accept it and now i have to do all this compiling 02.10.37 # ah 02.10.41 # ok had to vent 02.11.11 # BigMac: oh sorry, i thought fontforge was a windows program. do you have cygwin installed? 02.11.20 # i'll read up on it and check back here tomorrow 02.11.22 # yes 02.11.30 # but i can't use cygwin 02.11.43 # physically i can, but i cannot get anything to work in there 02.11.47 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.12.31 # BigMac: have you looked at this page: http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ms-install.html 02.12.40 # barrywardell_: In terms of Rockbox, the startup code and exception vectors are defined in crt0.S. But that file is not straightfoward to understand - it has the startup code for all the Rockbox targets in it, so it's a maze of #ifdefs... 02.12.56 # yes 02.13.14 # but like i said that requires cygwin which i cant use 02.14.30 # BigMac: sorry, then i have no idea, i haven't tried to generate fonts for rockbox yet. 02.14.48 # so i guess im out on contributing to the ipod port, because uploading these fonts would have been about as far as i can go 02.14.56 # oh well thanks anyway 02.15.13 # linuxstb: thanks. I'll have a look at that file and see if I can understand anything from it 02.18.18 # but i'm tired now so i will leave it to tomorrow 02.27.39 Quit dan_a () 02.32.36 Part barrywardell_ 02.36.43 # Bagder: Just a thought if you read this in the logs - if the .mi4 files contain exception vectors, then I would guess DRAM is mapped to 0x0, rather than the ipod's default 0x10000000. So you'll need to change DRAMORIG in boot.lds. 02.38.05 # Unless of course they are just there for when the .mi4 file remaps memory itself... 02.38.07 # * linuxstb goes to sleep. 02.38.57 # g'night linuxstb 02.40.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.43.17 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.46.30 # anyone here have fntforge installed on there computer 02.48.18 Quit earHertz ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 02.57.48 Join niskel [0] (n=niskel@toronto-HSE-ppp3962474.sympatico.ca) 02.58.41 # Hi, probably a question that gets asked a lot but does anybody know how the battery life is with a 4G iPod and the latest rockbox? 03.00.37 # i wish i could help you man niskel 03.00.52 # thats alright 03.00.57 # i know my 5g battery gets like 8hrs music on a full charge if that helps 03.01.07 # I am actually putting it on my 5G but the GF has a 4G 03.03.17 # oh 03.03.30 # well it should be at least as good as apple os 03.03.57 # and niskel may i suggest you putting jbuild and jblackglass on your 5g. it looks amazing 03.04.18 # what is jbuild? I saw jblackglass 03.05.51 Join webguest54 [0] (n=0cce175e@labb.contactor.se) 03.05.59 # test 03.08.02 # jbuild is what you need to run jblackglass 03.08.59 # I think I am using another build 03.09.02 # starts with an s 03.09.45 # oh 03.10.35 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.13.20 # I am using a blackglass theme though :) 03.13.38 # its nice 03.19.59 Quit webguest54 ("CGI:IRC") 03.27.31 # kinda depressed. no one has commented on my wps 03.27.53 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.35.12 # is that captain_america? 03.36.51 Quit spiorf_ ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 03.37.03 Join ze [0] (i=ze@70.40.149.90) 03.37.09 # nods.. what happened with the lovely, friendly, helpful iPL guys with the better software + more games? 03.39.05 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 03.39.11 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEE639.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.41.35 # sigh 03.41.41 # explained this before 03.41.47 # little brother 03.41.54 # were on a network 03.42.08 # hense same hostmask 03.42.17 # oh, it was your little brother who wanted us to get ass raped by our mothers... yeeaah... 03.42.32 # yah ive already appologized for him 03.42.46 # and gave him a spanking like scorche said 03.43.30 # * desrt is utterly confused 03.43.52 # about what part? 03.44.01 # well 03.44.05 # at first, i didn't notice anyone here 03.44.13 # and then i realised that i'm in a different channel than i am normally in 03.44.33 # but between those two events occuring, i was vaguely wondering what the hell was going on :) 03.44.41 # lol 03.45.57 # BigMac: is mike moyers your real name? 03.46.25 # no 03.46.39 # justin 03.48.18 # Timberlake? 03.48.24 # he's dreamy! 03.48.28 Quit TeaSeaLancs ("Leaving") 03.48.28 # yah 03.48.29 # :) 03.48.32 # im in nsync 03.48.48 # heck ill admit it if i used to have britney spears 03.48.53 # lol 03.49.05 # u dont want her now all fat and pregnant too 03.49.23 # yah true 03.49.31 # but maybe i could get her sister 03.49.43 # i would try --- shes my age 03.49.52 # how old are you 03.50.15 # shes gotta be 16ish 03.50.44 # shes like 3 weeks older than me, 15 03.51.01 # i think 03.51.09 # i'd still get with that:-) shes that hot 03.51.20 # how old are u 03.51.29 # shes 21 days older lol 03.51.32 # 17 03.51.51 # ah ok 03.51.54 # yeah she is hot 03.53.03 # can anyone find a 1024x768 image that would look good in blackglass? 03.53.11 # if they do ill add it 03.53.13 # lol i join the conversation in a good time 03.53.18 # whats blackglass 03.53.36 # do you have rockbox 03.53.41 # yep 03.54.08 # what type of player 03.54.12 # i wouldnt be idling in here for nothing 03.54.15 # H120 03.54.24 # ah nvm 03.54.34 # lol i want a 60 gb ipod 5g (video) 03.54.40 # but i have no money and i love my H1230 03.54.42 # 120 03.55.30 # yah i have a 5g but its a 30gb 03.56.38 # i want to steal one from the apple store, the floor model 30 03.56.44 # but i cant steal for my life 03.56.53 # lol 03.57.07 # not a good idea stealing from the apple store 03.57.08 # BigMac do u have a jessica alba background for what ever ur doing 03.57.20 # they have many many many cameras 03.57.26 # but yeh can u explain blackglass 03.57.37 # no but if you could link me i'd make it 03.57.38 #