--- Log for 29.07.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 5 hours ago 00.01.09 # * dionoea starts cleaning the old feature requests from the tracker 00.01.57 # 2002 ! that's old 00.06.12 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 00.07.14 # but is it still a standing bug or unimplemented legitimate feature? :) 00.07.23 # should "button reconfiguration" requests be closed ? or are those regarded as valid ? 00.07.50 # midkay: i'll only close illegitimate or unvalid or fixed stuff 00.07.55 # Is there a specific one you're asking about, dionoea? 00.08.17 # well there are lots in 2002 00.08.22 # there are lots of those.. 00.08.37 # I think most of the button mappings are fairly set in stone. 00.08.43 # "hi i'd like it if you could change it so play starts a file instead of select thanks".. :\ (not a quote, just an impersonation).. i think those can be closed.. 00.08.52 # k 00.08.58 # everybody has their own idea of how the buttons should be laid out. 00.09.21 # Really, right now, there should only be a couple open ones, the one that makes Play go back to WPS from the menu, and any relating to the Record button on iRivers/iAudios, in my opinion. 00.09.23 # i don't see them changing much. 00.10.25 Quit Poka64 ("nite all") 00.10.48 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-71-79.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.15.51 # i hope the ipod ones aren't set until 3.1 is out 00.17.07 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 00.19.04 Quit A_M ("CGI:IRC") 00.21.38 # this one would be nice http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1337 00.22.21 # It would have to change between and or 00.22.47 Quit Bger ("Nite") 00.23.07 # yeah, but the concept is good. i sometimes stare at the screen like 10 seconds before i understand that it's all empty because i was in an empty dir 00.23.10 # nls: What gcc version did you use for your experiments? 00.23.17 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 00.23.43 # the one in the vmware image 00.23.46 # dionoea: Another filetree improvement is a current-location line. Such as /Music/Blah, or [Main Menu] as the top line of the list. 00.23.52 # do old archos have WPS support ? 00.23.55 # Currently we stick with gcc 3.4.x because code generated with gcc 4.x was slower in some tests 00.24.01 # dionoea: yes 00.24.04 # Paul_The_Nerd: yeah 00.24.13 # tests were made on a q6 ogg vorbis 00.24.15 # Maybe that is no longer true when using the 'right' -O options 00.24.15 # dionoea: Though the Player only has a two text-line screen for its WPS. 00.24.27 # Bagder: thanks 00.24.42 # Paul_The_Nerd: it's just to close a feature request from 2003 :) 00.24.54 # amiconn, how do I check the version? 00.25.05 # m68k-elf-gcc -v 00.25.32 # Most probably 3.4.6 in the vmware image 00.25.45 # yep 00.26.15 # would the h300 build compile under 4.0 00.26.32 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.26.51 # should stuff like http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1761 be closed ? 00.27.01 # it just isn't possible in the current framework i think 00.27.40 # Why not? 00.27.52 # It wouldn't look very good? ;) 00.27.59 # Heh 00.28.01 # well it only allows 1 bitmap per char doesn't it ? 00.28.10 # It should be possible. Italic won't look very good, but okay. 00.28.21 # ok, i'll leave it open then :) 00.28.25 # AmigaOS does it that way 00.28.28 Quit TucknDar () 00.28.41 # dionoea: On the fly... 00.28.41 # dionoea: For 12 pixel tall fonts, you divide the font into 2 or 3 rows, and shift them over by one pixel? 00.28.42 # * freqmod thinks pc's are best for processing and embedded computer best for presenting precomputed work (fontforge can do some of that) 00.28.50 # Bold should be fairly easy 00.29.15 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.30.12 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@084202082182.customer.alfanett.no) 00.30.23 # AmigaOS uses the following methods: For bold, it just prints the characters twice, the second time shifted one pixel to the right 00.30.33 # freqmod: Multi-font support would essentially negate a need for that anyway, though I don't know which would be better for battery life. 00.30.34 # (of course without destroying the background) 00.30.35 Quit moixa (Client Quit) 00.31.06 # For italic, it starts at the bottom, and for each 2 pixels going up, it shifts the bitmaps one pixel to the right 00.31.42 # Paul_The_Nerd: Multi-font support won't necessarily negate a need for otf styles. 00.31.54 # They save RAM 00.32.14 Quit PyromancerX (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.32.21 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.32.29 # * amiconn thinks we should at least have bold 00.32.40 # amiconn: how does the o and other characters with vertial lines look, does amigaOS draw the characters shifted diagonally? 00.32.41 # what about this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1642 (Sleep mode after n tracks). It's an old patch but the concept doesn't sound stupid to me 00.33.18 # X uses different fonts for bold, not live processing 00.33.56 # * Paul_The_Nerd agrees with amiconn that bold would be nice at least. 00.34.08 # Mikachu: Yeah, X uses _tons_ of fonts, and most of them look fairly ugly compared to the TTFs windows uses, imho 00.34.34 # i wonder what undeline+bold+italics would look on the 5 pixel high fonts:) 00.35.21 # Black blobs at an angle. 00.35.30 # Typographically, bold and italic need different fonts, but the algorithmic versions don't look too bad 00.35.32 Join PyromancerX [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.35.34 # nobody actually uses bitmap fonts in X now of course 00.35.49 # except in terminals where speed is important 00.36.21 # dionoea: They wouldn't be readable, but who would use such a combo? 00.36.28 # as of like four years ago X can fairly easily use the same TTF files that windows uses 00.38.33 Quit TucknDar () 00.39.46 Join jimmah [0] (n=aj@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861363.sympatico.ca) 00.41.09 Quit nls (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 00.42.14 # Mikachu: are bitmap fonts really much faster? is it because they are smaller in memory? 00.42.35 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-29-121.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.42.56 # most of the speed impact comes from antialiasing, but core fonts are still faster than xft fonts without aa 00.42.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.43.12 Part JazzBone ("User is away.") 00.43.16 # i guess i thought that you would antialias once 00.43.23 # and then buffer the glyphs 00.43.37 # you still need to do the alphablending on the fly 00.43.42 # i suppose there is subpixel positioning 00.43.59 # Mikachu: oh, duh 00.44.11 # thanks 00.44.31 # dammit, it's something i've changed that breaks playback, but i can't isolate it 00.50.45 Join job [0] (n=fugge9@81-231-98-249-no47.tbcn.telia.com) 00.51.14 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.51.33 # hey, I dont get the repeat a-b to work on ipod 4g. cant see how to select the interval 00.51.52 # job - press left and right, iirc 00.52.31 # uh? 00.52.44 # ive put it in repeat mode: a-b 00.52.55 # is that enabled by default? 00.53.33 # but then the manual says that I'll mark point a with "Hold Play and press Left —Sets Start Point (A)" 00.53.56 # i don't see the ABREPEAT define in the 4g .h file 00.53.59 # either it just pauses the song, or shuts down (playbutton for 6sec) 00.54.30 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod4gray-20060728.pdf 00.54.33 # page 37 00.54.38 # so you need to add that and recompile i think 00.55.04 # a rare case of documentation being more up to date than the code 00.55.34 # ^^ 00.55.47 # is it easy ? 00.55.58 # no 00.56.06 # cause im really tired, and have to sleep *-* 00.56.13 # thanks! 00.56.29 # anyway thx for a great firmware! 00.56.32 # LOVE IT! 00.56.34 Quit job ("- nbs-irc 2.0 - www.nbs-irc.net -") 00.57.24 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.59.31 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 01.00.49 # Play+Left and Play+Right aren't ideal bindings for it on iPod anyway. 01.01.11 # I think in this case the documentation is rather out of date (leftovers from another manual) 01.01.18 # In fact, I don't know if there really can be bindings for it. 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08.09.43 # battery life is worse with rockbox at the moment 08.10.20 # how about the h120? 08.10.28 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.10.37 # how's battery life compare w/ rockbox? 08.11.14 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.8.152) 08.12.03 # hello 08.12.07 # crazybilly: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRuntime 08.12.16 # hahaha.... see it. http://forumz.tomshardware.com/dellpost.html?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=192887&ex=Dude-Dell-freaking-blew 08.14.55 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 08.15.23 # not bad 08.15.36 # good enough for me ;) 08.17.03 Join Bger [0] (n=bager@rockbox/developer/Bger) 08.21.05 Join fejfighter [0] (n=jeffro21@d220-236-128-51.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 08.28.23 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 08.38.30 Quit adiamas ("Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 08.43.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.49.18 Join DoubleThink2 [0] (n=ss@c211-28-55-23.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.49.49 Join dan_a_away [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 08.50.01 # Heya, is there a way to charge the ipod through USB and listen to it at the same time without it restarting into diskmode... as rockbox does....? 08.51.15 # this is in the faq ... hold the menu button down 08.51.25 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@203.187.240.141) 08.51.41 # galois, are you the same galois from #math? 08.52.17 # yes 08.52.50 # oh thanks.... sorry for asking the obvious then 08.52.51 # sorry, just curiosity. I didn't know you there, but there were people.. uh, basehead? drzachary I think? mild? you talked about you 08.52.59 # err 08.53.01 # who talked about you 08.53.42 # it was all lauding/admiration 08.54.43 Part DoubleThink2 09.18.46 Part Paul_The_Nerd 09.20.21 Part crazybilly 09.20.36 Join crazybilly [0] (i=jaketolb@adsl-65-70-232-16.dialup.fyvlar.swbell.net) 09.21.07 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 09.21.19 # is there a database of people's wps files somewhere? 09.21.42 # or a repository, I suppose... 09.21.49 # Some here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery 09.22.24 # But there are more scattered around the place, on other websites 09.22.25 # awesome 09.22.30 # thanks 09.24.37 # More here: http://rockbox-themes.org/ 09.30.26 # great 09.38.16 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 09.41.34 Quit fejfighter () 09.46.28 # is it hard to create a rockbox theme? 09.47.14 # i just looked through the manual....looks pretty easy 09.47.47 # everything's just an html-esque tag that calls an ID3 tag from the file that's playing 09.48.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 09.48.54 # not that I've done it yet ;) 09.50.08 # Specifically see the CustomWPS Wiki page for most of the information 09.50.09 # not necessarily.. 09.50.40 # Not necessarily? 09.50.40 # there are plenty of non-ID3 tag things, like Rockbox battery level/remaining time info, playlist position/total, current time, RTC, etc. 09.50.47 # playback modes, progress bars. 09.50.49 # Oh, that was to the other person. 09.50.56 # yeah. 09.51.01 # @ crazybilly. 09.51.01 # I was all 'did they move the page on me?' 09.51.07 # hahaha. 09.52.04 # hehe 09.52.20 # is there a way to customize what particular buttons do? 09.52.31 # Nope 09.52.41 # stank 09.53.15 # particular .cfg can adjust eq as well as display, though? 09.53.29 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549658B9.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.53.33 # so you could save everything altogether, I suppose... 09.54.42 # a .cfg can adjust every setting that can be saved other than things like playlist position. 09.55.27 # cool 09.57.10 # A lot of people use them for things like switching from pocket-mode to car-mode (or rather a series of settings they feel fit it), or just a quick hop from indoor volume to outdoor volume. 09.59.15 # yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking 09.59.21 # mostly the car/headphones thing 10.00.11 # A lot of people don't realize you can save a .cfg and then cut out any lines you don't want. 10.00.25 # So you can have one sitting around just to change the shuffle/repeat settings and nothing else. 10.01.36 # hmm....to change .cfgs you go into 'manage settings' right? 10.01.43 # Nope 10.01.46 # or is there a faster/easier way 10.01.47 # You CAN go to manage settings 10.01.53 # But you can also just click on them like a song. 10.01.58 # mmm 10.02.22 # tricky 10.02.38 # EQ presets are also exactly the same sort of .cfg, as are themes (theme .cfgs traditionally are .cfgs that only load a wps, set the font, backdrop, foreground color, and background color) 10.03.34 # so it's all one kind of file....just w/ more or less functionality depending on what code's in it 10.03.41 # Yep 10.03.46 # gotcha 10.05.26 # is there a way to get hte file browser to always dump you to the root when you hit select? 10.06.24 # I don't believe so. 10.06.42 # You go back to either where you launched the WPS from, or if you have follow playlist enabled, wherever the current song is. 10.07.56 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 10.08.17 # alrighty--I need to get some sleep. thanks for the help. 10.12.01 # is there are theme making howto somewhere? :o 10.13.59 Quit chendo (Remote closed the connection) 10.14.06 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-68-125.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.14.08 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-65-33.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.25.41 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.26.02 # hey all 10.26.08 # G'day g'day 10.26.22 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 10.28.19 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.29.03 Quit dan_a_away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.29.16 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 10.29.30 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.30.32 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.30.39 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@203.187.240.141) 10.33.19 Quit crazybilly (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.36.14 # bloody hell surfing at 640x480 is painful :p 10.38.16 # Bg3r: thanks for the fixes 10.43.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.45.39 # hmm,, everyone sleeping on on sat morning are they? 10.45.53 # Yes. 10.45.56 # I know I am. 10.46.13 # Oh, wait, right, insomnia as usual. 10.46.28 # pretty much... 10.47.12 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.47.30 # i scared him away =( 10.51.05 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.51.59 # JdGordon: hey 10.52.19 # hey 10.52.58 # did you use a script to rearrange the keymap-h...c file? or did you do it manaully? 10.53.31 # manually :D 10.53.51 # but with some kind of regex should be possible too 10.54.29 # youch, how long did it take? i was asking because i didnt see you did it on the ipod file also :p 10.54.39 # haha 10.54.42 # maybe 30 min 10.54.44 # maybe more 10.55.03 # it doesn't matter 10.55.18 # :) thanks 10.55.23 # btw, have in mind that i haven't checked the remote mapping .. 10.55.26 # s 10.57.11 Join dan_a_away [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 10.57.16 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 10.58.05 # ok, im sure if there is a problem someone will be able to tell us :) 10.58.25 # yep 10.58.53 # i will add the h300 non-lcd remote too, but don't have time atm 11.00.50 # great 11.02.13 Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) 11.03.00 # I think TIMEOUT_BLOCK should be -1, otherwise we can't wait for 1 tick 11.03.00 # * Do we really need to wait for 1 tick? but ok, thats easy to fix 11.03.06 # i've fixed this, iirc 11.03.16 # (very difficult :D) 11.04.57 # i saw :) 11.05.03 # all the comments have just been fixed 11.05.11 Part Paul_The_Nerd 11.06.21 # im not going out for a while, so i tihnk im going to finish converting all the current button loops to this, then sit down with the target manuals and see how hard it is to do the target files without the player to test on 11.07.41 # Bg3r: if the keymappings are custom, do you think it shuold check the standard mappings if the button was not found? 11.08.02 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.16.41 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.18.48 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-68-125.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.19.00 # my disk is always on on my photo ipod :o 11.24.37 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 11.25.14 # lex: Is the hard disk activity icon always on as well? And is this when you're playing music? 11.26.09 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 11.26.55 # linuxstb_: yes 11.28.28 # If you go to the main menu, then info ->Debug -> View audio thread, you'll see what's happening. I'm guessing the decoding is taking up too much CPU time, so Rockbox never manages to completely the fill the buffer and turn the disk off. 11.28.50 # hmm 11.30.05 # pcm ~120-140k / 529200 11.30.11 # and codec is growing 11.30.17 # boost ratio 100% :o 11.30.42 # hey, it's not reading he hd now :) 11.31.13 # JdGordon: maybe... but i still want the standard and remote buttons to be treated in the same way 11.31.26 # That's probably due to the audio debug screen itself using less CPU than your WPS. You could try just leaving Rockbox in a menu, rather than the WPS during playback. 11.31.49 # yeah.. maybe 11.32.15 # atm it's not reading the hd even if i'm on the wps 11.32.31 # but i turned directory cache off too with the last boot 11.32.53 # Bger: for the moment it will check the standard keys, and i guess it probaly should stay that way (if only to save a comparisson every time a button is presed for a special case..) 11.33.02 # also, i like how you have done the remote switching 11.33.30 # i'm glad to hear it ;) 11.33.40 # lex: Yes - once the buffer is full, the hard disk is turned off until the codec buffer is almost empty, then Rockbox will fill it again. 11.33.58 # hmm :o 11.36.27 # http://evot.us/x/rockbox/ btw there's some pictures from rockbox on my photo, but they're from very close :) 11.36.45 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.51.18 # Bger: REMOTETYPE_UNPLUGGED isnt defined anywhere? 11.51.26 # it is 11.51.32 # i've added it yesterday to the CVS 11.52.30 # JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-07-28%2013:36:02.html 11.52.30 # ah ok 11.52.42 # guess i should update then :p 11.52.51 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 11.55.35 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 11.55.35 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 11.57.20 # Bger: undefined reference to remote_type in the sim build :'( 11.59.14 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.08.36 # amiconn: around? 12.13.20 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.13.42 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@203.187.240.141) 12.17.07 # my rockbox likes to freeze :o 12.23.02 # Genre9mp3: yup 12.24.06 # JdGordon: hum 12.24.26 # JdGordon: add a stub 12.24.52 # Just a minor glitch on the X5 sim. The backlight of the remote doesn't turn on when a button is pressed (only when the simulator starts or changing a setting in a menu) 12.25.48 # Also...I don't know if this is only in simulator, but the message boxes (eg. "Settings Loaded") are not readable in the X5 remote 12.25.54 # Bger: lcd-sdl.c ? 12.26.01 # JdGordon: hm 12.26.02 # w8 12.27.02 # lcd-remote-bitmap.[ch] 12.27.13 # i can add it in the cvs 12.28.22 # :) 12.29.22 Quit linuxstb (Client Quit) 12.29.26 # Genre9mp3: It's not a glitch. The sim only simulates the main buttons (same with the iriver sims), and the backlights only react to the respective buttons like on the target 12.30.09 # What do you mean with the msg boxes being unreadable? Do they appear garbled, or do they not appear at all? 12.31.24 # They appear but they are unreadable because they are _almost_ a black box 12.32.50 # amiconn: I'm making a screenshot to see 12.33.26 # does anyone know why the config block version was bumped? there is no commits to settings.h for a while? 12.34.49 # amiconn: http://users.teilam.gr/~yngwiejo/X5sim.png 12.34.52 # cos recording was enabled on the X5s 12.36.02 # JdGordon: the remote for X5 was enabled .. 12.36.11 # ah ok 12.36.23 # and this adds some members to the settings struct automatically 12.36.42 # righto, time to be social :( have a good day ppl, ill be back in a few hours i guess 12.36.53 # Genre9mp3: Oh, looks like the 2 bits belonging to a pixel are switched, so lightgrey becomes darkgrey and vice versa 12.38.05 # Hafta check whether this is only a sim problem or within the drawing code itself 12.38.28 # Too bad Linus isn't here... I don't have an X5 to compare with the target 12.40.52 # I'll ask him when he comes 12.43.01 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-90-57.dsl.pipex.com) 12.43.01 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.43.08 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust335.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 12.43.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.43.30 # JdGordon: add a stub in the keyboard-... for now 12.45.30 # i want green5g into my photo :< 12.45.32 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549658B9.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.47.59 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 12.56.15 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@084202082182.customer.alfanett.no) 12.56.33 # * dionoea notices that someone completely broke the solitaire layout on the small recorder's screen 12.56.37 # that's outrageous :) 12.57.36 # * pixelma already reported that and linuxstb wanted to do something about it :) 12.58.24 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 12.58.40 # well i'll fix it :) (since i did the old layout i guess that i'll be able to understand how it works :p ) 12.58.52 # great! 12.58.57 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54931D5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.01.10 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.02.59 Quit TucknDar () 13.03.35 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@084202082182.customer.alfanett.no) 13.06.16 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.08.57 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-47-34.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.23.32 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.24.38 # * linuxstb makes his first recording via line-in on an ipod (4g Color) 13.26.03 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-237.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 13.31.15 Quit obo ("bye") 13.31.15 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.37.50 # linuxstb: Didn't you already do this yesterday? 13.44.16 Quit TCK (Client Quit) 13.45.28 # No, that was mono recording via the right channel in the headphone jack (which IPL can do). I've now got it working via the stereo line-in in the dock connector, which IPL doesn't do. 13.45.47 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 13.47.54 Quit TucknDar () 13.48.49 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@084202082182.customer.alfanett.no) 13.52.08 Nick perplexa is now known as perpleXa (n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa) 13.58.08 # can't people think a bit before commiting stuff like http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/solitaire.c.diff?r1=1.19&r2=1.20 ? it's obvious that making the bitmaps twice as big is going to break it on small screens 14.02.36 # Yes.... and I (as well as several other devs) know about this problem 14.03.09 # I wanted to fix that for quite some time now, but first didn't get enough time, and later forgot about it 14.03.21 # I did get as far as converting the original small Archos bitmaps into .bmp files, but looking again now, I can't find them.... 14.03.50 # Imho the bitmaps should be converted into BMPs and the bitmap build system should be used 14.04.11 # I found a bug in solitaire today, tried to fix it, but the code scared me away... 14.04.12 # I've found the bitmaps I made - just a moment, and I'll zip them up and put them on my website. 14.04.52 # For those brave enough, the two of spades will always be allowed to go onto the "finished" stack, even if there's no ace. 14.05.20 # odd... 14.05.21 # linuxstb: well i'm fixing it, doing bitmaps again and everything :) 14.05.25 # but then you will never win. :( 14.05.36 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/solitairebitmaps.zip 14.05.43 # neat :) 14.05.57 # dionoea: That zip file contains (as far as I can remember), the original bitmaps from before the commit that broke it on Archos. 14.06.18 # (I extracted them from an old version solitaire.c) 14.06.23 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.06.35 # what targets are the 8x10 ones for ? 14.06.47 # I think Archos - because of the aspect ratio. 14.07.18 # archos were 8x8 (at least those that i used) 14.07.57 # I'm not sure then.... It was about 3 months ago, so I've forgotten what I did. 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I haven't tried to see if the mic input (i.e. headphone socket) is connected yet. 15.28.38 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-100-183.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.28.51 # * dionoea should buy a dock 15.30.37 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 15.31.13 # AFAIK, you can't buy docks with line-in sockets (but please prove me wrong). Someone made one for me, and I've just sent him an email asking if I can point Rockbox users who want to record in his direction. 15.32.34 # oh ... what conectors do "normal" docks have ? only usb ? 15.33.14 # USB, Firewire and line-out are normally your only options. 15.35.35 # hey all 15.35.51 # hey JdGordon . Do you still need the recorder key mappings ? 15.36.19 # i have a incomplete recorder mapping file, if you want to finish it id be greaful 15.36.40 # is it in the wiki patch ? 15.36.54 # no 15.37.55 # http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/rockbox/keymap-recorder.c it needs heaps of work tho 15.38.21 # do you have a complete keymap i could look at for reference ? 15.38.54 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.38.56 # http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/rockbox/keymap-ipod.c is a good reference 15.39.00 # thanks :) 15.39.28 # grab the patch form the wiki for all the action codes because i dont tihnk the ipod is 100% complete 15.39.58 # i could show you the file for the irivers, but its full of extra crap which the reocrder wont need (interchangable remote keymaps and such fun stuff) 15.40.11 Join _apo_ [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-087-173.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.40.17 # just a note, the 1st and 2nd columns need to be swapped around in the recorder file 15.40.37 # yeah, i saw that :) lets hope that some regex magic can fix it :) 15.40.47 # ye, im sure it would 15.41.12 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 15.41.21 # JdGordon: shouldn't the LAST_ITEM_IN_LIST define be global ? 15.41.48 # as well as the get_context_mapping function i guess 15.41.57 # probably... and no 15.42.08 # get_context_mapping is target dependant 15.42.20 # all the targets don't have the same contexts ? 15.42.21 # as long as it returns the correct array each target can do it very differently 15.42.24 # no 15.42.28 # oh, ok :) 15.42.29 # they could change around 15.42.34 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.42.56 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-6-127.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.49.38 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 15.50.22 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081B894.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.52.44 # can a context "inherit" another context ? 15.53.15 # dionoea: all context "inherit" the standard one 15.53.24 # ok, that's neat 15.53.25 # thanks 15.53.46 # i want oto figure out a way to build an array on the fly tho, so we have moe control 15.54.00 # what do u mean 15.54.44 # umm... im not sure.. (im drunk)... :D 15.55.46 # :D 15.55.54 Quit San () 15.56.04 # 'ure simulating :D 15.56.55 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.12 Quit |apo| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.50 # which button is the reset button in the pitch screen? 16.01.41 # for? 16.03.03 # looks like the on button on iriver... so ill just use ACTION_STD_ACCEPT for it.. not the best, but good enough 16.03.31 # what's the difference between MENU and LONGMENU ? 16.04.40 # and CONTEXT ? 16.05.06 # .. menu, long menu, and context menu? :) 16.05.11 Quit Hulex (Remote closed the connection) 16.05.26 Quit sharpe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.05.29 Join sharpe` [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 16.05.58 # midkay: that was easy :) ... but i never noticed 2 menus. Maybe that's something planned in the future 16.06.07 Quit sharpe` (Client Quit) 16.06.11 # what do you mean? context menu is hold select.. 16.06.16 # delete, copy, cut, rename.. 16.06.17 # i dont tinhk you need to worry about long menu 16.06.18 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 16.06.34 # hum ... ok. 16.06.40 # menu and context are needed tho 16.06.45 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.06.45 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 16.07.14 # ye, its not used yet, maybe can be removed 16.08.01 Join Hulex [0] (n=Hulex@c-68-38-146-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 16.08.04 # do the TREE actions also need to be defined in a different context ? 16.08.29 # or should i just define actions which you defined in keymap-ipod.c ? 16.09.26 # the tree actions can go in their own context, or the std context if they dont overlap with any of the STD_ buttons 16.10.17 # oh, the TREE actions are optional 16.10.27 # i should put a note next to what is optional and what isnt 16.10.45 # ok, so i won't define them :) 16.10.50 Quit Acksaw ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 16.11.23 # * JdGordon is not looking forward to porting the plugins :p 16.12.00 # i added the keymap on the wiki page 16.12.29 # woops ... syntax error at the end 16.13.29 # cheers 16.13.37 # did you test it in the sim or on the player at all? 16.14.00 # no ... but it should work :) 16.14.11 # i'll test it if you really want 16.14.23 # im happy if your happy :) 16.15.10 # * dionoea finds it weird that F3 is never used 16.15.25 # looks good, can you add ACTION_SETTINGS_[INC DEC]REPEAT ? 16.15.34 # sure 16.16.01 # does f3 do anything atm? 16.16.08 # LCD menu when browsing 16.16.20 # also the #ifdef at the begining is not neded anymore, if you can remoe that also plz? 16.16.28 # ok 16.17.14 # and grab the copyright and license stuff from the top of -ipoc.c and put your name there 16.17.39 Quit psi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.05 # * JdGordon thinks all files should say (c) 2001-2006 The Rockbox Team and then list all the contribs of that page.. or just the rockbox team and not worry about names 16.18.30 # The Rockbox Team isn't a legal entity 16.18.35 # at least not that i know of 16.18.41 # dionoea: can you do any of the archos targets? 16.18.51 # mapping ? 16.18.52 # +s 16.18.53 # oh, ok 16.18.56 # ye 16.19.03 # well i already did the recorder :) 16.19.10 # i'll do the player 16.19.23 # ta 16.19.54 # is the player the ondio ones? linus is worried thats where the whole tihng will fall over 16.20.06 # the player is the first archos 16.20.10 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p549F2F0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.21.00 # JdGordon: you're missing an action for the F3 quick menu 16.21.13 # (it's defined in screens.c) 16.22.06 # do you mean its still in the screens.c file? or we need an ACTION_ value for it? 16.22.16 # well both 16.22.19 # either way, i guess i didnt know how to handle it 16.22.33 # there are a few places i havnt touch that are actually ifdef'ed out 16.24.58 # quit 16.24.59 Quit netmasta10bt ("[BX] Man and mouse alike, both end up in pussy") 16.26.17 # is there already a way to read the recording data from within a plugin? 16.31.55 # x1jmp: see the plugin.h 16.34.08 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 16.34.43 # dionoea: recorder mapping is now in the diff... im gonna upload the new version in a min, then bed time for me 16.34.58 # k 16.35.02 # Bger: can't find something useful in plugin.h 16.43.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.45.31 # gnite 16.45.35 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.45.50 Quit TucknDar () 16.53.13 Join webguest33 [0] (n=d92a6050@labb.contactor.se) 16.53.32 # hello 16.56.43 # hello 16.59.19 Quit karim ("Ex-Chat") 17.01.24 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp143-231.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.06.15 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@wbs-41-208-198-220.wbs.co.za) 17.06.35 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-197-158.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 17.09.52 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006071912]") 17.11.03 # hi i was trying to find a stable build of rockbox for the ipod photo, but all i saw was daily builds 17.11.14 # does any1 know where i can get a stable build for the ipod photo? 17.11.15 # that's right 17.11.26 # the first stable build is scheduled for november 17.11.46 # for all ipods 17.11.54 # well, are any of the daily builds fairly stable enough for use? 17.12.20 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A452B8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.12.23 Quit Jungti1234 () 17.12.35 # the latest should be the best 17.12.44 # as in today? 17.12.47 # won't that have bugs? 17.12.48 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 17.13.08 # possibly 17.13.56 # so are there any previous builds that has be known to be stable? 17.14.09 # have been known* 17.14.48 # the current builds are used by lots of people 17.15.18 # ok, i guess i'll try it 17.15.49 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.17.51 # secleinteer: Please try the latest builds, and if you find bugs, report them. That's the only way we will ever get stable builds for all the different ipods. 17.26.24 # ok 17.26.26 # one other thing 17.26.39 # i'm using the "nodefault" bin file 17.26.51 # on step e, it says to type "ipod_fw -g color -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-color.bin" 17.27.06 # but i should really do "ipod_fw -g color -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-color-nodefault.bin" 17.27.23 # could you add this to the instructions, as it might confuse some users? 17.28.33 # Personally, I'm more likely to delete the bootloader-color-nodefault.bin file - it's not an official bootloader. 17.28.33 Quit webguest33 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.28.49 # is it unstable or anything? 17.29.15 # sounds like all it does is switch the boot order 17.29.24 # I've no idea - there's no source code to go with it, so it could be anything. But I'm assuming someone would have complained by now if it didn't work, so it should be fine. 17.30.29 # no source? then you can sue them :P 17.31.12 # :) 17.31.26 # Or sue ourselves, as it's on the Rockbox wiki.... 17.31.55 # heh 17.32.09 # no source = screw that, i'm not using it 17.32.31 # i'm not gonna trust something if source isn't available 17.32.46 # they probably just added a ! in an if 17.33.07 # it's a whole extra kilobyte, tyvm 17.33.17 # 54 instead of 53 17.33.30 # you can put a lot of stuff in a kilobyte ;D 17.33.32 # secleinteer: If you want to use the Apple firmware frequently, you might prefer the ipodlinux bootloader - you don't need to install ipodlinux, just replace "bootloader-color.bin" with "loader2.bin" (the name of their bootloader) in the Rockbox installation instructions. This should give you a boot menu where you can choose between Rockbox and the Apple firmware. 17.33.32 # could be compiler settings 17.34.26 # You can download it from http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 (the second option under "Getting It") 17.35.06 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-200-139.dyn.iinet.net.au) 17.35.16 # linuxstb: thanks a lot 17.35.19 # that would be great 17.35.53 # but if i can play my music already on my ipod through rockbox and it has no bugs, i'll probably stick with 17.36.02 # i hope that trick w/ foobar works 17.36.15 # which? the rebuilding database? 17.36.28 # yeah 17.36.34 # it doesn't for me and many others, and you don't need to anyways, rockbox has TagCache to build a database of your music files.. 17.36.39 # oh 17.36.46 # oh well, i'll just use the ipodlinux bootloader then 17.37.36 # linuxstb: i got a file called "loader.bin" from the ipodlinux wiki 17.37.39 # is that correct? 17.37.52 # the zip is called Loader-2.4.zip 17.39.16 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 17.39.43 # yes, just make sure it suits your model - color/photo. 17.39.59 # secleinteer: Yes, if it was in Loader-2.4.zip, then that's OK. 17.40.17 # And it will work on any ipod - IPL don't produce model-specific binaries. 17.40.43 # no? how does that work? 17.40.44 # so i don't even need the bootloader-color.bin? 17.41.00 # midkay: runtime detection. 17.41.14 # secleinteer: No - loader.bin is used instead of bootloader-color.bin 17.41.34 # bastards. :) 17.41.56 # midkay: IMO, it's a bad thing - waste of time and memory. 17.42.27 # probably, yes. 17.42.41 # well, certainly it uses more memory and more time. 17.42.47 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 17.42.47 # But it's not that bad, because they have malloc. It wouldn't work with Rockbox's static allocation. 17.42.55 # ah. 17.43.46 # ok no i have another problem 17.43.49 # now* 17.43.56 # i got everythign to work until i unplugged 17.44.03 # when i restarted i got the ipl bootloader 17.44.06 # but only once 17.44.16 # now if i restart, it goes straight to apple firmware 17.44.40 # That sounds odd. 17.44.49 # But sorry, I've got to go now. 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I cant find how to create a bookmark 20.12.42 # when i'm in rockbox, i can load the apple firmware by just turn my ipod off and restarting while holding down the menu button 20.13.18 # but after that, it stays the in apple firmware even when i restart, until i hold down menu + select, and it will restart into rockbox 20.14.14 # also,where are instructions on how to add a patcH? 20.15.08 # secleinteer: When you "shut down" the apple firmware, it is only pretending to shut down - it goes into a sleep mode. So when you "switch it on", all you are in fact doing is waking it up from sleep - not doing a real boot. 20.15.38 # ok 20.15.45 # well either way, i've got it figured out 20.15.49 # MENU+SELECT is the only way to actually leave the apple firmware and reboot. 20.15.54 # ok 20.16.02 # but i've got another question: is rockboy only for iriver? 20.16.23 # i found this 20.16.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5282 20.16.28 # Man, the X5's main LCD frame rate has taken a nosedive since the addition of the remote. 43.5->33.5 full, unboosted. 20.16.31 # rockboy for ipod 4g 20.16.38 # It works for most ipods, but maybe not all. And for the ipods it does work on, it doesn't work very well due to the ipod's lack of buttons. 20.16.52 # jhMikeS: mostly due to the move to sdram I bet 20.16.56 # k 20.17.06 # Bagder: The screen buffer? 20.17.10 # yes 20.17.13 # also, how do i play songs in rockbox? :D 20.17.19 # ^^ 20.17.28 # there doesn't seem to be anything on the main rockbox menu for it 20.17.41 # change to "show files: id3 database" 20.17.52 # secleinteer: You should probably read the ipod FAQ - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 20.18.50 # but linuxstb, when I choose "create bookmark" after I paused my song at the desired point nothing happens 20.19.14 # and when checking "recent bookmarks" in mainmenu 20.19.21 # it says "bookmarks empty" 20.19.35 # job: Sorry, I can't help - I don't use bookmarks. Have you read the section in the manual about them? 20.19.58 # yeah 20.20.18 # but nothing happens 20.20.26 # linuxstb: i still don't get it 20.20.32 # where is this "file tree browser"? 20.20.55 # could it be the same as the "repeat a-b" function, that it is not yet implemented... 20.24.07 # Bagder: Hmmm...why so? Too much SRAM usage? 20.24.34 # I guess, I just noticed Linus did that change but I'm not sure why 20.25.20 # there are probably a few more functions in iram now so the buffer doesn't fit 20.25.33 # I'd like to ask but he seems to be toiling away in his secret cave. :) 20.26.04 # he's more often around during euro office hours 20.27.00 # is there any dev that could look at the Sudoku levels patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5519 please 20.27.38 # Bagder: Ok, never really looked where he's from. Haven't seen a glipse since a week ago. Thanks. 20.27.48 # might also fix the freeze which occurs after generating 5 or 6 mediums to get to a hard level 20.27.51 # linxus: nvm got it 20.28.07 # jhMikeS: he's one of us Swedes 20.29.31 Quit XavierGr () 20.29.46 # Bagder: I guess that makes me one of *those* Americans. :) 20.29.58 # hehe 20.30.05 Nick job is now known as anton_ (n=fugge9@81-231-98-249-no47.tbcn.telia.com) 20.30.15 # oh one of those! B-] 20.30.44 # HA! 20.31.53 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 20.31.58 # * jhMikeS say: Jag har svenska kottbullar! (All I know) 20.32.29 Join bagawk_ [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 20.33.17 Quit bagawk (Nick collision from services.) 20.33.22 Quit leftright (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 20.33.26 Nick bagawk_ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 20.33.58 # * jhMikeS didn't mean to say anything bad. He will stop being silly now. 8-) 20.36.38 # you said "I have swedish meatballs" 20.36.57 # * Bagder leaves again... 20.37.57 # <_apo_> Jag aelskar sverige 20.38.10 # <_apo_> Only Swedish I know :P (Except for some numbers) 20.38.23 # <_apo_> But it's great in most convos. 20.38.38 # Bagder: I that's what I was hoping. 8-D 20.39.05 # <_apo_> jhMikeS: You got glasses? :P 20.39.41 # _apo_: Huh!?! 20.39.54 # <_apo_> 8 = glasses ---> 8-D 20.39.55 # <_apo_> :P 20.40.36 # _apo_: Si, tengo. Pero no puedo oir correctamente en esta lugar. No se porque. 20.40.51 # <_apo_> Oo 20.40.56 # <_apo_> Wakarimasen deshita 20.41.09 # <_apo_> :< 20.42.22 # <_apo_> If, I have. But I cannot hear correctly in this place. Not because. >_> 20.42.26 # <_apo_> Sou ka.. 20.42.55 # _api_: "Yes, I have. But I can't hear correctly in this place. I don't know why." 20.43.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.43.37 # <_apo_> I thought so.. 20.43.39 # <_apo_> But why hear? 20.43.41 # _apo_: No hablo japones. 20.43.55 # _apo_: A joke...no sound. 20.44.09 # <_apo_> I don't really either... I'm only learning it, but I suck 20.44.44 # VAMOS AMIGOOOOOS! 20.44.44 # <_apo_> But next year I'm starting Spanish, that should be easier (I already know Latin) 20.44.58 # * jhMikeS thinks now a display driver performance patch is even more needed. 20.45.12 # * jhMikeS is doing it... 20.46.03 # _apo_: I've done Spanish from listening to my GF. That's it. 20.46.27 # <_apo_> ^^ 20.46.27 # * jhMikeS It's almost ready to go up today. 20.46.59 # linuxstb: awesome stuff :D i got it working with music 20.48.46 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.49.52 # anton_: Vamos a donde? 20.50.31 # vamos el MONDE!!!! 20.52.39 # A la izquierda? Voy a cumplir mi driver patch. 20.53.52 # Hasta luego mis amigos. Yo regresare mas tarde. 20.55.51 # wanna talk some jive?! 20.56.11 # YO BRO! 20.56.44 # shizzle the nizzle in da mo'fo driver ass-patch 20.57.01 # lol this soduko is harder than i thought 20.58.44 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 21.01.23 # anton_: Yo, yo, yo. Present! Dat mo'fo driver patch is the shiznay! Shizzle. 21.02.16 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@213-202-143-35.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 21.07.46 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.09.44 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-11-198.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.12.56 Quit San||Away () 21.26.55 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 21.27.13 # Will I need to write a plugin to prove that the newly implemented driver functions actually work correctly? I'm not sure lcd_update_rect gets a full workout anywhere (all cases of odd/even start, end, width). LinusN said to go ahead and do everything except lcd_blit (lcd_roll is a big ??). 21.28.43 # do you have access to the framebuffer? can you write tests? 21.29.18 Join webguest10 [0] (n=54996aac@labb.contactor.se) 21.29.36 # k8to: I can. To use a plug I have to add some functions to the plugin API but I put that with the plugin so it can be tested and unpatched. 21.29.55 # has jdgordons 'Inser Random" patch been incorporated ? 21.29.57 # k8to: Or I guess I could make a menu item under LCD settings. 21.30.49 # oi devs, there's a good patch there beeging for cvs 21.31.01 # i assume there are some unit tests somewhere and some kind of build to run them 21.33.12 # * webguest10 prods a idle dev to look into the Insert random patch 21.35.34 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2808 21.35.42 Quit barrywardell () 21.37.47 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 21.37.55 Quit Zagor (Client Quit) 21.38.50 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 21.40.03 # * Zagor upgrades the server 21.41.06 # k8to: I'm not seeing it 21.41.26 # jhMikeS: i don't know, sorry, i was just .. peanut gallerying iguess 21.42.26 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-35-120.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.42.28 # k8to: Ok... 21.42.34 # Bagder??? 21.46.11 Part webguest10 21.47.18 # * jhMikeS wonders where Bagder went...or is silenty getting his answer 8-} 21.47.48 # upgrade complete. see you later. 21.47.49 Quit Zagor ("Klienten avslutas") 21.49.38 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.49.49 # The developer build has errors undefined references to "debug_init" and "debug". Did I forget to do something? 21.51.04 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 21.54.40 Quit mantono (Client Quit) 21.56.25 # oy 22.00.13 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.05.00 Join dfg [0] (n=husbdadt@67.10.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) 22.05.19 # hello everyone 22.05.32 # is their anyone from the rockboxcrew online 22.05.34 # ? 22.06.06 # ping? 22.06.19 Join webguest69 [0] (n=453f070a@labb.contactor.se) 22.06.19 # pong! 22.07.32 # i don't think you're supposed to reply to your own pings 22.07.45 # lol you don't? 22.08.11 # anyways anyone know of the rd2780?? 22.08.14 # unless you ping yourself of course 22.08.40 Quit webguest69 (Client Quit) 22.08.58 # heheh 0ms thats the stuff!!! 22.09.24 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 22.09.46 # mikachu what are you doing here anyway? you from rockbox?? 22.10.00 # i have no idea what an rd2780 is 22.10.10 # RCA Lyra A/V Jukebox RD2780??? 22.10.11 # Rockboxia...just south of Sweden 22.10.17 # yep gnelik!! 22.10.35 # People actually bought those? :) 22.10.51 # ^) 22.10.54 # hey they're a bargain, get them for nothing and they work fine 22.11.03 # just have to not be a f* noob is all 22.11.34 # anyone mind getting a move on making an alternative firmware for the thing??? 22.11.56 # Somehow I doubt it 22.12.07 # what do you doubt? 22.12.33 # $289.88 good price 22.12.36 Quit dfg (Excess Flood) 22.13.00 # dfg: do you need one? 22.13.19 Join dfg [0] (n=husbdadt@67.10.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) 22.13.23 # lousy bots 22.14.20 # wtf do you people do in here allday any ways? 22.15.13 # ping? 22.15.57 # bye bye 22.16.00 Quit dfg (Excess Flood) 22.23.33 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-221-28.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 22.24.07 # linuxstb: you there? 22.24.37 # i was using rockbox for music and it was playing just fine, and suddenly the music stopped and the screen went dark 22.24.47 # meaning the backlight went out 22.24.53 # i think it was low on batteries 22.25.19 # now, it still has the image that was there b4 the music stopped, but i can't figure out how to get it out of this state 22.25.32 # i tried charging it, but i don't think it's working 22.25.36 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 22.25.39 # is there any way to fix this? 22.25.55 # Just keep charging, and try pressing MENU+SELECT to reset it. 22.26.18 # what happened? 22.26.34 # Sounds like your battery ran out. 22.26.36 # by pressing, he means holding for 5 seconds 22.26.57 # Yes, he does mean that. 22.26.59 # tyvm 22.27.01 # it just restarted 22.28.22 # also, can i delete the "contacts", "calendar" and "notes" folders and still have the apple firmware work? 22.28.28 # yes 22.29.21 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.30.08 # and is there any way to get the file browser to show the id3 tag album name instead of the name of the album folder? and the same for songs? 22.30.25 Quit mantono (Client Quit) 22.31.02 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 22.32.16 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.32.58 # ...? 22.34.08 # I don't believe so.... 22.35.25 # secleinteer: why not use the splendid "id3 tags" filemode? 22.35.47 # for music, and a quick change if you need some files 22.36.42 # under which menu do i find that? 22.38.56 Quit mantono (Client Quit) 22.39.43 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 22.40.55 Join xorAxAx [0] (n=xorAxax@moinmoin/coreteam/alexander) 22.41.21 # hi, whats the current status of power saving on the nano - can it suspend the dev like the orignal firmware? 22.43.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.43.39 # eh, how is that power "saving" ? 22.43.45 # complete power down saves more power 22.45.20 # thats supported? 22.45.25 # ok :) 22.46.59 # can rockbox play m3u's? 22.47.04 # yes 22.53.25 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.59.09 # i think this is a bug: today's build for the ipod photo keeps restarting while charging 22.59.42 # when it's off, and i plug it into an outlet, it will reload indefinitely 22.59.48 # so i have to load the apple firmware to charge 22.59.49 # hold menu when you insert the cable 23.00.00 # i don't want to use the ipod while i'm charging 23.00.12 # isn't that when you hold down menu? 23.00.34 # imean in rockbox 23.00.41 # yeah i know 23.00.47 # you can't charge with the device off 23.00.50 # oh 23.01.02 # apple and their clever designs 23.01.03 # so that's the only way to charge it w/ rockbox? 23.01.28 # no, like i said you can hold menu when you insert the cable and it won't restart, or you can boot apple 23.01.32 # that's two ways 23.01.35 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-69-212-172-213.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 23.01.42 # ok 23.02.40 # but my understanding is it charges faster in apple than rb because you have to fiddle with something to use more current 23.02.52 # but maybe that is only for usb charging 23.02.57 # ok 23.03.16 # usb charging as in w/o the converter for a wall outlet? 23.03.30 # usb as in connected to a computer 23.03.33 # ok 23.03.49 # well i guess i'll just charge in apple then 23.03.58 # thanks for the help 23.06.10 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 23.06.51 Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) 23.14.14 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.14.36 # lol 23.14.51 # chip8... 23.15.02 # these games just make me laugh ^^ 23.15.19 # is there a decent playable game? / where do they origin? 23.16.10 Quit Bger ("nite") 23.17.49 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host108-202.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 23.18.34 # anton_: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginChip8 23.20.39 Join TucknDar [0] (n=Miranda@084202082182.customer.alfanett.no) 23.21.45 Quit mantono (Client Quit) 23.22.22 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 23.22.28 Quit anton_ ("- nbs-irc 2.0 - www.nbs-irc.net -") 23.23.38 Join joe2 [0] (n=YouCeyE@ppp-71-136-97-212.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) 23.25.39 Quit mantono (Client Quit) 23.26.18 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 23.28.10 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 23.34.29 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.35.56 # Genre9mp3: I found the problem that causes the darkgrey splash on the x5 remote. 23.36.21 # It has nothing to do with the driver; the problem is the gui splash() function 23.36.31 # amiconn: i noticed it seems hard to compile rb with multivolume and dircache on at the same time 23.36.58 # Mikachu: Yeah, Slasheri didn't implement multivolume support for dircache 23.37.11 # okay 23.37.23 # screen->set_background(LCD_LIGHTGRAY); <== OUCH! 23.37.28 # i guess none of the default setups try to do that 23.37.49 # amiconn: So the problem is on target as well? 23.37.50 # LCD_LIGHTGRAY isn't the same as LCD_REMOTE_LIGHTGRAY, and can't be 23.38.09 # Mikachu: Nope, not yet 23.38.45 # The only target using multivolume (and hotplug) is the Ondio, and for Ondio two reasons speak against dircache 23.38.57 # (1) Dircache on a flash player doesn't make sense 23.39.05 # (2) The small RAM 23.39.19 # Genre9mp3: yes 23.39.21 # yeah i only enabled MV to use the 60MB at the start, i don't want to risk the integrity of my main partition by moving it there 23.39.51 # (1) is why i disabled TC on my nano a while ago and apparently why MV succeeded when i tried it 23.40.03 # TC? 23.40.10 # i just tried enabling DC today to track down a problem with my overly patched tree 23.40.20 # tagcache and multivolume 23.40.43 # Tagcache has no problems with multivolume 23.40.47 # doh 23.40.48 # DC 23.40.58 # i am confused and tired :) 23.42.09 # well anyway, i just wanted to check everything was as it should 23.42.21 # Why don't you just repartition? 23.42.44 # i heard the apple firmware scribbles in that area sometimes 23.42.49 # amiconn: About the X5 remote... since it's capable of 2bpp, loading a rwps that uses 24bit bmps is possible, right? 23.42.52 # hmm 23.43.09 # and i might accidentally leave it in apple at some point 23.43.16 # Genre9mp3: Maybe. I would use 4 or 8bit though. 24bit is a waste 23.43.21 # (this is on a nano) 23.43.50 # Ah, no, I guess the bitmap loader needs adjustment to produce the remote's native format on request 23.44.13 # * amiconn doesn't care much 23.44.53 # I tried using iCatcher on H140 and recorder for a while. It was unbearable for me 23.44.59 # (the load time, not the design) 23.45.33 # amiconn: Sure, but it should be possible since it's possible on H100 & iPod Mini. (about the 24bit bmps) 23.45.38 # Iriver rockbox boot time is quite long even without bitmapped wps 23.46.08 # Anyway, I don't know about the target, but the sim crashes when you try to load 24bit on X5 rwps 23.46.25 # [23:43:49] Ah, no, I guess the bitmap loader needs adjustment to produce the remote's native format on request 23.47.18 # And I understand what you mean about the boot time...Ondio boots and shuts down really fast! ;) 23.47.18 # I wouldn't use 24bit for the 2bit targets anyway. With 4bit BMP you lose _nothing_ but the files are only 1/6th the size 23.47.34 # Yes, when flashed 23.47.57 # Archos recorder/player is only slightly slower 23.48.06 # (~5 seconds instead of 3.5) 23.48.28 # So what was the boot time you had on H140 with iCatcher? 23.48.44 # Didn't measure, but 20..30 seconds 23.49.06 # Really? Well that's really bad... 23.49.19 # I boot quite fast with my H340 23.49.30 # Yes. Most of it is seeking the ton of small files 23.49.34 # (I guess) 23.49.54 # Well, hopefully, tar packaged wps will solve this problem 23.50.10 # if you have a playlist set and autoresume on it doesn't matter so much imo, takes longer to untangle the headphones 23.50.15 # On recorder it was similarly slow. On Ondio it was significantly faster, even with the slow MMC data transfer 23.50.21 # (but no seek delays) 23.51.13 # Mikachu: (1) I don't use autoresume. (2) I often don't use headphones, but connect the jukebox to my setreo / car stereo 23.51.21 # ah 23.51.31 # well, everyone uses their dap differently i guess 23.52.03 # Another thing I noticed is that subline wps timing differ from target to target (at least between an H300 and an Ondio) 23.52.05 # i usually listen on the way somewhere, so i turn it on and put it in my pockets, then i spend some time putting the headphones on and by then the music is usually playing 23.52.34 # Animations run quite faster on Ondio than on H300 23.52.49 # There's one reason why I don't use autoresume - when shutting down, I don't know how I will use the box when powering on again 23.53.14 # ...and I surely don't want to have the volume at 0dB when using headphones 23.53.45 # ...but that would happen if I used it in the car before 23.53.49 # obo's headphone patch helps a lot there for me 23.54.04 # only resumes if something is plugged in 23.54.19 # That's ipod only, isn't it? 23.54.28 # yeah 23.54.31 # I have 3 .cfg files on each box, for car, hifi and earphone operation 23.54.46 # i don't have a car or hifi :) 23.54.55 # :) 23.55.46 # unfortunately my tree is unable to actually play back music at the moment, so i have to use plain old cvs 23.56.11 # * amiconn wonders what strange things Mikachu is doing to his tree 23.56.31 # you don't want to know :P 23.57.09 # <_apo_> He puts a hole in it and uses it to- err, yea. 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