--- Log for 12.08.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 19 hours ago 00.04.43 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 00.09.19 # someone tell the bugtracker to stop reminding me! 00.10.39 Part windowsrefund ("Leaving") 00.14.54 # preglow: I believe bagder sents those emails every satruday 00.24.49 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.25.57 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.28.22 # Slasheri: I found out what caused my problems with tagcache and "insert" of a whole folder... I could give you a recipe to repeat it if you want 00.29.20 # though I don't know if it's the same on other targets 00.36.27 # preglow, I think if you just fix all the bugs, there might not be reminders any more ;) 00.41.53 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48) 00.45.31 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 00.46.25 Quit lodesi ("leaving") 01.04.08 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACD0A8E4.ipt.aol.com) 01.09.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.11.05 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p508A4B12.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.19.37 Quit Arathis (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.21.31 Quit ender` (" Programming is like sex becuse: 19. There’s always someone willing to write about the only right way to do things.") 01.33.27 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A4B12.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.35.36 Join Bunkey [0] (n=zea@60.234.135.27) 01.40.17 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85.64.200.85.dynamic.barak-online.net) 01.42.29 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 01.45.20 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.46.30 # icatcher theme look funny on my ipod color, how can i fix that? 01.51.20 # how funny? 01.51.25 # do you use the one for ipod color? 01.52.46 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 01.53.38 # ya i use the right 1, i can dcc u a photo 01.53.49 # go ahead 01.54.14 # you didn't send correctly 01.54.18 # says my client 01.54.41 # hmmm must be my router 01.54.56 # if you've got a router and haven't configed it: then yes, that's it 01.55.13 # no idea how to config it haha 01.55.54 # anyway it look out of place.... and a pink block on bottom right 01.57.38 # haha 01.57.45 # then it doesn't sound like you're using the right one 01.57.50 # or perhaps are missing some files 01.59.00 # hmm, do i need any plugin for that? i just installed rockbox yesterday, didnt install any extra plugin 01.59.17 # no plugins 02.02.00 # i'll try update rockbox, just download cvs and replace right? 02.02.20 # sure 02.02.27 # but i doubt that's what's wrong 02.02.27 # anyway 02.02.29 # i've gotta go 02.02.30 # good luck! 02.02.48 # k cya 02.03.28 Quit qwx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.04.38 Quit darkyoshi372 ("Someone set me up the bomb") 02.07.04 Quit Bger (Remote closed the connection) 02.13.38 # arr. strange happenings with my compilation. 02.15.48 # hrm... I could have sworn gcc had an option to emit assembler with the C code as a comment next to each line 02.16.05 # -fverbose-asm isn't quite it 02.17.55 # wow. i fixed my problem. 02.19.37 Join fatherfork [0] (n=4898d815@labb.contactor.se) 02.27.22 Quit bondolo ("Cya!") 02.28.18 Join bondolo [0] (n=mike@dsl081-053-164.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 02.28.54 Part bondolo 02.32.11 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.33.47 Part pixelma 02.46.04 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 02.54.45 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.06.06 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 03.08.03 Quit fatherfork ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.09.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.27 Quit XavierGr () 03.16.28 Quit bilbravo (Remote closed the connection) 03.16.52 Quit Arathis () 03.20.59 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 03.25.17 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 03.29.10 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.42.49 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.45.22 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-252.dynamic.qsc.de) 03.45.27 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.04.53 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-252.dynamic.qsc.de) 04.08.46 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@b148152.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 04.33.56 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 04.34.42 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.9.189) 04.39.07 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-252.dynamic.qsc.de) 04.41.20 Quit TCK (Client Quit) 04.50.21 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.05.42 Quit Nibbler ("Leaving") 05.09.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.12.05 Join jn [0] (n=jn@adsl-69-109-225-52.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 05.12.38 # hey the car adapter option doesnt seem to work for me.. that is for chargers correct? 05.12.56 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-252.dynamic.qsc.de) 05.22.17 # is there a way to make the text size bigger? 05.34.49 # chang efonts. 05.35.42 # sounds reasonable. 05.38.31 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.8.154) 05.39.33 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.40.37 # Where is the info on programming for m68k-elf-as? I've been looking about but can't come up with much and typing "man m68k-elf-gcc" just brings up a list of options and switches. 05.42.10 # I meant "man m68k-elf-as" 05.43.30 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.140.13) 05.50.06 # finally fixed icatch theme 05.51.56 # jhMikeS, what sort of information are you after? 05.53.44 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.54.16 # safetydan: All the stuff on assembly programming, mostly how to write assebly for that assembler. The CPU prog ref has all the instructions already. 05.54.40 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.57.36 # jhMikeS, What more do you need than the CPU data sheet? I can't quite see what you're missing. 06.00.58 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.01.33 # I want to know how to declare data. More specifically jump tables in this case. 06.05.13 # jhMikeS, you probably want the gas manual, something like http://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/manual/gas-2.9.1/html_chapter/as_3.html#SEC25 06.08.26 # safetydan: looks like that's probably the stuff. thanks. 06.09.01 # jhMikeS, the other thing to do is just look at the output from running the assember 06.09.09 # i.e. passing -S to gcc 06.09.56 Join imphasing_ [0] (n=DXETCyQU@pool-70-22-74-250.balt.east.verizon.net) 06.10.33 # I heard something about compressed video on Rockbox.. is this true? 06.10.35 # :] 06.11.34 # safetydan: I tried like hell with -S and couldn't get much to happen. 06.12.14 # imphasing_: It's in the process but very slow atm. 06.12.52 Quit secleinteer () 06.13.40 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-225-32.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 06.13.40 # Are you using some custom codec, or is it using a pre made one? 06.14.57 Quit secleinteer (Client Quit) 06.15.40 # imphasing_: For MPEG-2 it's just libmpeg2 I believe for now. 06.16.07 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-225-32.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 06.16.24 # Ah.. that would probably explain why it's slow 06.16.54 # Right now, there's a simple compressed video player for ipodlinux that uses a really simple jpeg like compression scheme, and it can get about 12fps on an ipod nano 06.17.03 # Feel free to suggest something if you know what might be a better start point. 06.17.04 # we have about 24fps on nano 06.17.11 # :o 06.17.12 # nice! 06.17.24 # I can get 16 in the x5 without a perfect lcd_yuv_blit 06.17.34 # interesting.. 06.17.39 # what's the compression rate like? 06.17.41 # but no sound 06.17.48 # it's normal mpeg2 video streams 06.17.48 # s/rate/ratio 06.17.48 Join midgen3313 [0] (n=allstar5@ool-44c21fdc.dyn.optonline.net) 06.17.52 Quit secleinteer (Client Quit) 06.17.55 # True, no sound...:( 06.17.59 # Ah.. 06.18.02 # no sound, yet 06.18.11 # it would probably be fast to just use uncompressed sound.. 06.18.16 # but then it would be bigger 06.18.19 # we still have one unused cpu 06.18.29 # I think that decoder needs have unneeded crud removed first. It's too general purpose. 06.18.34 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-225-32.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 06.18.39 # hm.. 06.18.57 # it has x86 specific code in some places, you can probably remove that 06.19.08 # if someone makes a portable mp3 player on x86... 06.19.12 # Using the second processor seems to be fairly tricky.. I think there's only 2 programs that use both in ipodlinux right now 06.19.41 # I think it has to do with the lack of a scheduling system in the kernel 06.19.58 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.136.190) 06.19.58 # jhMikeS, try something like this: m68k-elf-gcc -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/firmware/include -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/firmware/export -I. -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120 -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120/bitmaps -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120/apps -Irecorder -Igui -W -Wall -O -nostdlib -ffreestanding -Wstrict-prototypes -g -m5200 -Wa,-m5249 -malign-int -mstrict-align -fomit-frame-pointer -DIRIVER_H120 -DTARGET_ID=9 -DAPPSVERSION=\"060812 06.19.59 # -1003\" -DMEM=32 -c eq.c -S -fverbose-asm -o /home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120/apps/eq.S 06.20.11 # change paths as appropriate of course 06.20.19 # and the source file that you want to assemble 06.21.10 # safetydan: I tried something like that and it was just throwing up hundreds of errors so something wasn't exactly right :). 06.22.36 # It had the inlude paths but it was saying all kinds of stuff wasn't defined and such. It drove me nuts. I'd like to have it output with source and hex. I think there should be a make option for that IMO. 06.23.46 # -fverbose-asm? 06.24.05 # BTW: Does that actually work for you? 06.24.27 Quit damaki (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.27.28 # jhMikeS, works just find 06.27.30 # fine even 06.27.48 # I've been using to look at the eq code 06.27.59 # make sure you run it while your current directory is rockbox/apps 06.28.43 # Well...you know...I don't believe my cd was rockbox/apps! :) 06.32.14 Quit imphasing_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.33.12 Join Harry [0] (n=Harry@CPE00045a78ee3c-CM000f9f7d5f54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.33.21 # yo what is teh up 06.34.07 # safetydan: Would that be true if you're compiling something in target/ ? 06.39.00 Quit Harry (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.43.48 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.55.33 # jhMikeS, make V=1 should tell you what you need for target. 06.57.32 # Just did that and it works now at least for eq.c but that has a lot of info anyway. 07.04.50 Join Dev-Hace [0] (i=Dev@adsl-68-74-178-157.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 07.05.03 # Hey does rockbox really play mpeg now? 07.05.33 # ?> 07.09.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.10.01 # Dev-Hace, it can play mpeg1 and mpeg2 video files (no sound though) yes. 07.10.03 Quit Dev-Hace () 07.10.05 # Early days though. 07.10.07 # bah 07.22.40 Join chendo_ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-100-80.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.31.50 Quit sharpe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.31.52 Join sharpe` [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 07.38.12 Quit chendo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.40.12 Join mantono [0] (n=anton@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 07.41.21 Quit mantono (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.43.47 Quit midgen3313 () 07.45.11 Join powr-toc [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 07.57.42 Join PyromancerX [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 07.57.42 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.02.54 Quit sharpe` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.03.13 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Gnelik@193.110.17.19) 08.12.13 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 08.29.54 # jhMikeS: Dunno whether you still need it, but in order to see how to declare stuff for the asm, I often simply look into one of the already existing .S files 08.30.22 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.31.55 # Another hint regarding jumptables: Jumptables involving a data read are slow, unless the table is in IRAM. Using a computed branch into a streak of bra.s is faster. Reason: our coldfire has an instruction cache but no data cache. 08.33.25 # And finally, regarding the usage of IRAM buffers in lcd_yuv_blit(), you can simply make these buffers auto-vars. lcd_yuv_blit() is only called by the main thread (== gui thread), and the main stack is in IRAM. 08.39.11 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.11.156) 08.48.04 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.13.130) 08.52.59 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.10.8) 08.58.01 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.00.24 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.03.42 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.04.05 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.141.58) 09.05.47 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-225-32.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 09.06.52 Quit Brock ("You know you'll miss me :P") 09.08.57 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.10.14 Join Bger [0] (n=bager@rockbox/developer/Bger) 09.10.23 # morning 09.12.44 # guys, don't allow your players to shut down because of low battery while in USB mode ... it seems that my disk has developed bad sectors because of this :(((( 09.16.36 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.57.04 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.143.20) 10.00.58 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 10.02.13 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 10.06.58 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 10.08.25 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 10.11.21 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.11.29 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.18.42 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241ae.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 10.30.47 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.140.25) 10.34.59 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-152-74.d4.club-internet.fr) 10.36.31 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.36.46 # hey all 10.38.09 # morning JdGordon 10.39.42 Quit Bunkey () 10.47.52 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.48.02 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.138.102) 10.52.51 Quit aliask (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.53.38 # amiconn: hmm, interesting. It seems that it's necessary to "insert next" the tracks in reverse order to the playlist, because otherwise "insert" after "insert next" inserts track to end of the current playlist 10.54.51 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-157-125.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 10.57.53 # Slasheri: would it be difficult to display things from tagcache in the playlist viewer? 10.58.03 # like track length for example 10.58.12 # markun: hmm, shouldn't be hard 10.58.20 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.10.33) 10.58.32 # especially if tagcache is loaded in ram, querying those things should be fast 10.59.01 # Hmm, in fact tagcache browser could show the length also.. 11.00.03 # Slasheri: I found out what caused my first problem with tagcache... 11.00.20 # ...I put a description here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5801 11.00.49 # pixelma: ah, thanks. i will have a look 11.00.58 # thanks 11.01.39 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 11.03.49 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-252.dynamic.qsc.de) 11.04.02 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.04.53 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.143.171) 11.06.02 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 11.07.15 Quit powr-toc ("Leaving") 11.09.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.12.22 Part amiconn 11.15.35 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.16.11 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.16.18 # pixelma: hmm, interesting.. that is definately a playlist failure, i can reproduce it too 11.16.30 # maybe hardeep should take a look 11.16.42 # IIUC I don't have that in filebrowser mode 11.16.52 # remember even 11.19.52 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 11.21.04 # ah, hmm 11.21.30 # Slasheri: just tested it agian - no problems in filebrowser mode 11.24.51 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@212-200-212-95.adsl.sezampro.yu) 11.30.48 # Slasheri: Noticed the build table? An unused variable in tagcache code... 11.33.06 # linuxstb: ah.. fixing 11.36.39 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 11.57.04 # yippe :D its working! 11.57.28 # What's that then? 11.57.45 # the setting patch, regular int values are using it now also 11.57.53 # and should be working on al targets well noe 11.57.57 # now even 11.58.17 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-147-218.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.59.02 # How does the int value settings screen work? Does it just display a long list of all the integer values? 11.59.11 # ye 11.59.21 # the volume list looks odd.. but works fine 11.59.40 # I don't think that will work well on targets with slow LCD drivers, such as the ipods. 12.00.02 # why not? its no worse than the tree browser... 12.00.12 # Exactly - the tree browser is slow when dealing with long lists. 12.00.50 # its using the text callback to get the item name, so its not a large list really... 12.00.58 # Wouldn't a slider be a better way to represent integer settings, if we're looking to improve the UI? 12.01.44 # yes and no... 12.02.22 # anyway, with his i think there is a fair bit of code which is uneeded anymore 12.03.03 # .. and it the quickscreen didnt use the option_select stuff that whole file could be removed 12.04.03 # I like the idea of using the list widget for options with a list of values, but am not convinced about using it for integers. 12.04.30 # yeah integers I'm not sure about 12.04.34 # slider definitely is an option 12.04.37 # neither was i at first, but then i got a bit confused when there was only 1 item under the title... 12.04.58 # In which case, use a slider? 12.05.14 # you need to show the actual value also, but i guess that could work 12.05.16 # That way, a user can see both the min/max values immediately. 12.06.38 # Apart from volume, what else is an integer setting? 12.06.59 # stereo width 12.07.07 # most of the equalizer settings 12.07.21 # crossfeed 12.07.31 # do a search for set_int in te apps folder.. there are about 30 12.07.46 # OK... So quite a few then. 12.07.48 # apps/gui/select.c is redundant 12.10.22 # making a seperate gui for the int settings wouldnt be difficult tho... 12.15.28 # patch is http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5795 if your interested... 12.15.45 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-55.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.17.12 # JdGordon, if you have the cvsutils package installed you should be able to do cvsdo remove filename 12.18.05 # ok 12.20.45 # woopsies :p aparently select.h is actually still neded :p 12.27.05 # no, 1 typedef from it was.. 12.27.25 # right, time for the win32 and x11 sims to go away 12.27.34 # I'm wondering: Is it really nescessary to align burst reads with movem on coldfire to burst-sized boundaries? 12.27.36 # kill them goodly!! 12.28.36 # safetydan: do u need to add anything to cvs diff show the removed files are in the pacth? 12.28.58 # umm... it should pick them up if you've done cvsdo remove 12.29.23 # did that, doesnt say anything about them.. 12.29.37 # odd 12.29.56 # Try adding -N 12.31.09 # :) that got em 12.31.27 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 12.31.37 Join Kohlriba [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-155-236.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.34.17 # is there a common abbreviation of "average" shorter than "avg"? 12.34.42 # 3 letters isnt short enough for you? 12.34.57 # pixelma, not really 12.35.38 # JdGordon: not for the rockbox_default wps and the rockbox_default font on Archos screens... 12.36.08 # oh 12.36.25 # if there is ID3 information too 12.37.12 # (I mean info about the id3 version) 12.37.46 # can you do a small icon instead of the letters? 12.38.01 # I cant think how you could say average any shorter 12.38.05 # pixelma: "av" would probably work. 12.38.09 # the default wps shouldn't be graphixc I think 12.38.38 # But I don't think I would be happy with it... 12.38.48 # hmm 12.40.02 # what about just using ~? like ~137kbit. 12.40.19 # That would work. 12.40.26 # I tried that - it looks odd with the default font 12.40.41 # so I think the only solution is that the line should scroll then 12.40.54 # Or improve the ~ character in the default font - if possible. 12.41.14 # :) 12.41.57 # well, hm.. how odd exactly? ;) 12.42.13 # Do you need the cbr/vbr indicator at all? Almost all VBR files will be a non-standard bitrate - i.e. not 128/160/192 etc. 12.42.41 # might be nice to have.. 12.42.52 # what about some other symbol? just like... *137kbit.. 12.43.09 # Yes, but I'm sure there are other things missing. And a user can always customise if that info is important to them. 12.43.16 # something that people will discover or read about to mean VBR. 12.43.25 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-59-52.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.43.37 # rockbox_default can't be modified unless one opens up gwps.c or whatever and extracts the code.. 12.43.43 # which should be changed, IMO. 12.43.52 # I didn't invent the default screen... I just found out that the on my vbr-files the id3 version is cut off while using the default "theme" 12.44.54 # and the solution becomes crystal: remove the id3 version bit. :) 12.45.35 # I already removed the brackets - still there are some pixels cut off 12.45.50 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.47.20 # *shrugs* then... 12.54.11 # right, im bored again... stupid friedns being anti-sociall... what else needs some fixing in the ocdE? 12.57.02 # pull replaygain and id3 tag stuff out of firmware and in to apps 12.57.44 # sounds like a silly place for them... why are they there anyway? 12.58.31 # historical reasons 12.58.39 # it's not as easy as it looks 12.59.33 Join Triple-z [0] (i=Mp3@212.143.152.135) 13.01.45 # hello 13.02.19 # allo 13.02.41 Part jn 13.02.42 # how stable is rocbox for ipod video? (sorry for the noob quastions ;]) 13.05.51 # It's very stable as in it never crashes (at least for me). But the port isn't finished - see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus 13.06.58 # safetydan: did i miss something obvious? i just moved id3.c into apps and changed both SOURCES files and did make celan && make and it worked fine? 13.07.11 # Did you compile for hwcodec? 13.07.17 # battery life is good? 13.07.18 # ah, no 13.07.26 # is player hwcodec? 13.07.28 # Triple-z, the batter life isn't great yet... 13.07.30 # JdGordon, yes 13.07.44 # Triple-z: Around 7-10 hours I believe - so no, not as good as the original firmware. 13.07.51 # ok 13.08.09 # is it UMS after you deploy rockbox or what? 13.08.33 # HWCODEC compiled fine 13.08.45 # The ipod always has been UMS. It's just that Apple's firmware needs the itunes database updating as well in order to find the files. 13.08.57 # Rockbox can access the files without a database. 13.09.08 # (or it can create its own database on the fly) 13.09.08 # great 13.09.10 # JdGordon, sim or target? 13.09.19 # safetydan: target... 13.09.23 # so no need for shitty itunes 13.09.25 # 99% sure target 13.09.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.09.47 # yup, tagert 13.10.52 # clean build? 13.11.06 # if it works, move on to replaygain.c then :) 13.11.31 # safetydan: yup clean build... ok 13.11.31 # don't forget the .h files need to move as well 13.11.51 # BAH BUM.... ok, mooving the .h breaks it 13.12.22 # simple solution is leaving the .h in apps/export? 13.13.42 # firmware code can't/shouldn't call apps code, so if the .c file moves so should the .h 13.15.35 # JdGordon: I tried to move id3.[ch] and related files to apps/ a while ago - I posted a comment to the dev mailing list about the problem I ran into. It's basically hard to move until the hwcodec playback engine is either moved to apps/ or merged with the swcodec playback engine. 13.16.02 # cant or shouldnt? it didnt give any link errors which i thought was odd... but if it has no problems linking we can just do #inlcue "../apps/id3.h" cant we 13.16.03 # ? 13.16.20 # linuxstb: isnt there talk about redoing the playback engine again to moerge the 2 properly? 13.17.31 # Yes, Slasheri has mentioned a desire to rewrite the playback engine. 13.18.12 # is doing #include "../apps/id3.h" an acceptable stop-gap untill then? 13.18.53 # I would say no. What do we gain by half-moving it? 13.19.03 # (and breaking the golden rule) 13.19.19 # we move both files, just 2 paths are broken... 13.20.04 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 13.21.15 # just depends how badly you want id3 and replaygain moved into apps 13.22.04 # not badly enough to break the rules 13.23.23 # Ah well, there's always the 111 bugs that need fixing 13.24.37 # the replaygaim functions are not used by any code in firmaware/ anyway, s there shoudlnt be a problem moving them 13.27.27 # is it there because it relies on the id3 stuff? 13.28.04 Join fejfighter [0] (n=jeffro21@d58-108-90-87.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.28.07 # I thought the hwcodec devices had replaygain support? 13.28.22 # nope, its only swcodec 13.28.41 # unless its in another file... replaygain.c isnt compiled for hwcodec 13.29.11 # Are you sure the id3 tag parsing doesn't rely on the replaygain functions? 13.30.02 # oh, woops.. i did the search after i moved id3.* out of firmware 13.30.03 # id3.c calls the replaygain.c functions - so if id3.c is in firmware/, replaygain.c must be as well. 13.37.00 # though maybe they should be #ifdef'd out for hwcodec 13.38.04 # no point parsing tags that aren't used 13.41.06 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5773 is funny... 13.43.31 # linuxstb, which chipsets have hardware equalizer support? 13.43.36 # * safetydan needs a #define to use 13.44.25 # ah, HAVE_WM8758 will do fine 13.44.44 # how about HAV_HW_EQ?? 13.45.52 # well at the moment I only know of one chipset with a hardware equalizer 13.46.12 # wasnt the idea to get away from hardware specific defines tho? 13.47.27 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.14.71) 13.47.32 # safetydan: Yes, it's just the WM8758 at the moment. 13.49.20 # linuxstb: the replaygain stuff in id3.c is only for swcodec also... so its only one include breaking the rule.. 13.50.36 # JdGordon: I'm still against the idea. We may as well just wait and do it properly. 13.54.25 # fuck.. i just removed the wrong rockbox folder :'( 13.55.41 Join lamed [0] (n=59007a48@labb.contactor.se) 13.55.42 # damn bloody linux and no recycle bin :'( 13.55.53 # hello everyone :) 13.55.56 Join daurnimator [0] (i=JavaUser@203.29.170.70) 13.56.15 # JdGordon: don't blame the OS for your mistakes :p 13.56.21 # haha :'( 13.56.31 # hi all 13.57.22 # besides, there are some recycle-binish solutions if you're really a klutz 13.57.49 # anyone against FS#5182? 13.59.05 # i HATE FD#5182 13.59.12 # FS is ok 13.59.13 # ;) 14.00.17 # huh? I wrote FS 14.00.18 # lamed: Is that page up/page down or something else? 14.00.57 # linuxstb: that's changes horizontal screen scrolling to hold left/right instead of a key combo such as ON+left/right 14.01.04 # i'm just ranting 14.02.04 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.02.04 Quit MadDog011 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.03.02 Part pixelma 14.03.50 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.05.57 Part fejfighter 14.07.16 Join thouters [0] (n=thomas@183.211-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 14.07.19 Join webguest36 [0] (n=42fb0d10@labb.contactor.se) 14.07.43 # lamed: Doesn't that conflict with moving up and down the directory levels by holding left/right? 14.07.53 # I installed rockbox for my GF on her nano and she doesn't like it, how do I uninstall it without having to DL the ipod restore utility ( I'm on windows XP) thanks!! 14.08.30 # webguest36: The installation instructions (IpodInstallation) have uninstallation instructions at the very start. 14.08.37 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.09.00 # linuxstb: thanks 14.09.58 Join daurnimator [0] (n=daurnima@203.29.170.70) 14.10.34 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.10.36 # ipodpatcher -w 5 bootpartition.bin 14.10.39 # ;-) 14.11.13 # Yes - assuming your ipod is still drive 5. 14.11.17 # yea it is 14.11.34 # rockbox is cool but, on the nano it cuts battery life like in half 14.11.39 # You can then also delete the rockbox.ipod file and .rockbox folder. 14.12.30 # oh yea, I had forgot about those thanks 14.16.05 # has anyone else noticed how bad the battery life on the nano is ? 14.16.29 # everybody knows the battery life is less than stock on all the ipods. 14.16.55 # I could live with less than stock, But I mean it is like un believably bad 14.17.10 # It's alot better on my ipod video 14.17.39 # percentage wise, it should be the same between the models. 14.17.44 # (roughly) 14.17.56 # oh yea? 14.18.06 # maybe it's because on the nano it is using tag cache? 14.18.26 # People are getting around 8 hours playback on a Nano I think. 14.18.36 # im not getting near that 14.18.47 # What kind of files are you playing? 14.18.52 # mp3 14.18.55 # i definitely get that.. 14.19.01 # ogg -q 6 14.19.34 # High bitrate mp3? 14.19.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime 14.20.31 # nah 14.20.35 # like 128? 14.20.49 # So what runtimes are you getting? 14.20.56 # how much eyecandy did you turn on? 14.21.15 # Also, were you using peakmeters, EQ, replaygain, etc? 14.21.31 # that was my next Q i have been using alot of colored themes 14.21.31 # i definitely do not even get 4 hours with tag cache on though.. 14.21.41 # no peakmeters, eq or replay gain 14.21.47 # ahh so tagcache is the culprate? 14.22.08 # All tagcache should do is take up a few hundred KB of the audio buffer. I wouldn't expect that to half the runtime. 14.22.11 # thing is since i converted from apple all my music is random file names and I need a database to see what the hell msuic I have 14.22.35 # any devs here who know where to change a few things to lock the gui into the while playing screen forever (for use on an ipod nano with broken lcd) 14.23.18 # i hate tagcache..no offense.. it takes forever to update, sucks battery.. and not only that..but as far as i can tell, it doesn't even have dynamic playlist options.. (with the standard file view, i can be playing an album, then quick queue some other one up on the fly before the currently playing one stops) 14.23.48 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCDD1D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.23.51 # excitatory: How do you know it sucks battery? 14.25.04 # um.. well, not only does the wiki mention it, but it's obvious.. on first boot after it commits the db, there's always a significant chunk of battery life missing on the battery indicator.. 14.25.07 # Too be honest on my nano I don't really need any of the rockbox features and the thing I love about my nano is the great battery life so It looks like no rockbox on the nano for me 14.25.23 # file mode, it reports near 100 percent for the first two hours 14.25.44 # webguest36: if you don't need rockbox features, then why are you even contemplating it? 14.25.58 # heh, funny.. i couldn't live w/out it.. all my music is flac or ogg 14.26.00 # I have used it in the past I enjoy the games some times but it's not a necessity 14.26.20 # preglow: and i was using it until about 10 minutes ago ;-) 14.26.51 # linuxstb: btw, is the second core "enabled" these days? 14.27.25 # not to mention i can't stand the gaps in between tracks using the apple firmware.. and let's not get into the nasty itunesdb you have to deal with.. but that's just me.. and so i guess i'm partial ;D 14.28.10 # I love Itunes 14.28.15 # god, it's crap 14.28.19 # only program I like better than it for music is amarok 14.28.25 # but i don't use linux anymore 14.28.27 # i hate it even more than pink headbands 14.28.57 # my computer is too slow for itunes. 14.28.59 # every girl crazy about a sharp dressed man 14.29.18 # i have a sony vaio p4 with ht @ 3ghz 2gb ram 14.29.40 # preglow: Second core is not enabled - but now it is put to sleep by the main Rockbox program, not by the bootloader 14.29.56 # dan_a: no, not enabled as such, no, but it is in a sleep loop, yes? 14.30.13 # anyone here use bitpim / qpst on their cellphone ? 14.30.21 # preglow: That's correct 14.31.29 # goodie 14.32.03 # preglow: Check cop_main() in main.c to see what's happening with the second core 14.33.34 # man tool - no quarter is an amazing song 14.35.07 Quit webguest36 ("CGI:IRC") 14.35.35 # mantool 14.35.40 # heh, what a loser 14.35.48 # sounds like penis slang to me! 14.35.50 # itunes, and 128k mp3 14.35.52 # pfff 14.36.12 # ;) 14.36.12 Quit Kitar|st (Connection timed out) 14.36.25 Quit Febs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.36.32 Join Kitar|st [0] (i=Kitarist@BSN-210-232-2.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 14.38.55 Part thouters 14.44.41 Join daurnimator [0] (i=JavaUser@203.29.170.70) 14.46.29 Quit daurnimator (Client Quit) 14.46.38 # how do I make a splash that disapears if the user press a button? 14.47.36 # is it doable? 14.48.04 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.48.14 # (i think it is only if I count the time from the calling function and let it handle the keypress) 14.48.43 # * lamed slaps everybody... 14.53.58 Join mortal [0] (i=mortal@ip213.otanner10.opintanner.fi) 14.54.20 # hello, does someone here know of the inner workings of a creative zen nano plus 14.54.29 # I have one and I managed to fuck the fs up 14.54.33 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-252.dynamic.qsc.de) 14.56.06 Quit PaulJam (".") 14.56.19 # mortal: no creative zen owners in here I think 14.59.13 # logically enough, since rockbox doesn't run on it 15.04.46 # is it possible somehow to restore the fs? 15.04.51 # without sending it to creative? 15.05.16 # mortal: why are you asking that here? 15.06.11 # because there is a lot of people that know a lot about the technical side of mp3 players here? 15.06.34 # I daresay that if I had an issue with _any_ player I would try a quick question here before sending it in;P 15.06.45 # :) 15.06.54 # Me too probably 15.06.54 # ;) 15.06.56 # hehe 15.08.03 # I'd better ask again... I'm writing a (simple) function that's /* displays a splash for a given time, aborting if a key is pressed */. am I doing something that's already possible? 15.09.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.09.58 # You could call splash with whatever parameters make it return immediately, and then call the get_button_w_tmo() function. 15.10.33 # yepp, that's the idea 15.10.47 # i was wondering whether i'm missing something else 15.19.59 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 15.20.04 Join senab [0] (i=senab@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 15.22.56 # say i've created a shell file, is there any simple way of outputting a log file? 15.25.46 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 15.25.51 # Just do "./myscript.sh &> logfile" 15.27.11 # oh crap ye, why didn't i think of that? i was thinking of sort of echo command 15.27.16 # thanks linuxstb 15.30.32 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54877F37.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.31.40 Quit senab (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 15.31.49 Join |apo| [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-080-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.40.05 Quit apo` (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.40.56 # * lamed committing FS#5182 15.43.59 # lamed: 14.07.43 # lamed: Doesn't that conflict with moving up and down the directory levels by holding left/right? 15.44.37 # does it indeed seem like it 15.44.39 # ah, I answered to something totally different beforehand, sorry... 15.45.27 # what's up with switching from 3*HZ to HZ*3 ? 15.47.06 # try it, it won't affect at all. just as a prove of concept - up until now if you held right on a folder you quickly ended up selecting the first file in the max depth folder. (and why is that prooving it won't conflict with directories? because up until now you wouldn't ever use long presses on left and right) 15.47.23 # I use it to move back to the root quickly. 15.48.16 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.13.22) 15.48.20 # Which was the main complaint against the "left in root goes to WPS" request. 15.49.05 # preglow: just looked like the correct styling 15.49.52 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 15.50.38 # there is no correct styling, people are free to format their source files as they want 15.50.51 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 15.50.51 # with the few limitations in CONTRIBUTING, that is 15.53.49 # linuxstb: what could I say... like many other commitments, I've been trying to raise discussion about changing those keybinds for many many times, including forums & the mailing lists. I have had consent that one button operations are better from a bunch of guys, but none the less, we could scroll back if you find it inappropriate. 15.54.19 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.54.46 # lamed: I started to discuss it an hour ago when you said you were about to commit it... 15.56.18 # hey, I don't blame you for nothing! I missed your second question, I thought I already answered it :) 15.57.00 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 15.58.03 # If others think it's worth sacrificing the ability to quickly move through the file browser, then I don't feel strongly enough about it to argue. So lets just wait and see what others say now it's committed. 15.59.29 # ahh, you can keep it pressed as it is now 15.59.31 # i didn't know that 15.59.52 # that's a fine idea. I remember amiconn, & linusn approving it for sure, and I think bagder & preglow as well but I very might be mistaken. 16.00.54 # preglow? like: dislike; 16.01.51 # i don't really feel very strongly about it 16.02.00 # avoiding two button presses is undeniably good 16.02.12 # I also never use the horizontal scrolling, so don't gain anything by the patch. But I agree ON+LEFT/RIGHT is awkward on the h1x0. 16.02.33 # Slasheri: does flashed rockbox work more than thirty seconds now? 16.02.38 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h138n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 16.02.41 # thirty minutes... 16.03.00 # preglow: I didn't know there was an issue... But I've only had my h1x0 flashed for a few days. 16.03.39 # * JdGordon back.. miss me?? :p 16.03.52 # of course 16.04.03 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.07.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5338 ?? 16.08.44 # * preglow feels stupid for not having rockbox flashed... 16.09.01 # why? 16.09.10 # just remember slasheri saying there was an issue where it would lock up after thirty minutes or so 16.09.11 # doesnt flashing it mean there is more chance of bricking it? 16.09.48 # JdGordon: indeed, yes 16.10.13 # right.. so why fell stupid for not? 16.11.16 # it's not hardcore!"!¤!! 16.11.22 # hehe 16.11.24 # oh... i see.... 16.11.42 # jdgordon: how things are going with your patch? 16.11.51 # which one in particular? 16.11.58 # im trying to get about 5 commited :p 16.12.26 # I only know about 5338, which you have asked me to commit :) 16.12.40 # its ready to go... 16.13.49 Join ShadowdogMU [0] (n=Brock@cpe-65-28-252-205.woh.res.rr.com) 16.15.07 # (I told you, I get flames all the time none the less I try to discuss my submittons first...) are you managing to get people in favor of it? 16.15.40 # safetydan thought i needed more whitespace.. but noone has said they dont want it... 16.17.47 # what are your other patches? 16.19.11 # 5782, 5623 (Linus likes that one but said he wants someone elses opionon on it..), 2808 16.19.53 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCE3E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.22.09 # why's mmmm never around?! 16.24.08 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493437F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.26.02 # jdgordon: I'm not sure, but I think 5782 can only confuse, but anyways that's out of my turf actually. 16.26.51 # meh, ye, i got sick of having to do the $ifdefs.. Bagder liked it so hopefully he'll commit it.. one day... :p 16.28.46 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.142.176) 16.29.52 # preglow: it should work just fine as currently we use the ram image 16.30.17 # preglow: if you would like to try, you can find the tested bootloader image here: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/bootloader.iriver 16.30.31 # the flash plugin includes crc checksum of that file 16.31.10 # preglow: to restore original fw, you either can use the rom dump feature before flashing, or convert an original ihp_120.hex to ihp_120.bin and use that 16.31.49 # linuxstb: btw, did you upgrade to the latest bootloader? 16.32.04 # linuxstb: the older one had a problem with eeprom timing and the new one should be faster also 16.32.04 # No, not yet. 16.32.23 # I'll charge my h140 and do it later today. 16.32.29 # sounds good :) 16.32.41 Join mkey [0] (n=mkey@pD9E3666C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.32.49 # Slasheri: what do you mean use the ram image? 16.32.50 # and you no longer need any patches to do that, recent cvs should work fine 16.32.54 # Will that be the last time? ;) 16.33.00 Quit chendo_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.33.03 # preglow: that is the same rockbox.iriver file that is loaded from disk 16.33.10 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-100-80.dyn.iinet.net.au) 16.33.15 # so the image is not linked and ran directly from flash 16.33.28 # only rom images had that issue with playback 16.34.07 # linuxstb: hehe, the current bootloader should be quite stable :) 16.34.25 # Slasheri: ah, right, so the only thing that's really different is that we load the image from flash instead of from disk 16.34.33 # preglow: true 16.34.45 # sounds good 16.34.48 # and with flashed rockbox we also hibernate dircache & tagcache 16.34.49 # think i'll give it a whirl 16.34.55 # that gives about 3s boost to boot time 16.35.10 # because the eeprom memory is used too 16.37.12 # for what? 16.37.16 Quit ShadowdogMU (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.37.30 Join leftright [0] (n=leftrigh@cd4406110.cable.wanadoo.nl) 16.37.40 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.9.208) 16.37.59 # preglow: eeprom contains a flag if disk is intact from changes 16.38.13 # preglow: when entering for example bootloader usb mode, that flag is cleared 16.38.30 # and that enables the possibility to hibernate dircache for faster booty 16.38.31 # -y 16.38.44 # hmm.. i should write a wiki page about flashing 16.38.58 # Slasheri: is your flash routine user selectable, 16.39.57 # leftright: hmm, what do you mean with that? 16.40.04 # nevermind, you're going to write it up :) 16.40.20 # haha, i like the fact that rasher's add button doesn't work 16.41.22 Join ShadowdogMU [0] (n=Brock@cpe-65-28-252-205.woh.res.rr.com) 16.41.58 # leftright: it works as a plugin, and you can use it as "open with..." for following type of files: "/rockbox.iriver", "/bootloader.iriver", "/ihp_120.bin", "/internal_rom_000000-1FFFFF.bin" 16.42.30 Quit ShadowdogMU (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.42.33 # plugin automatically detects the file type and performs necessary checks 16.42.52 # Slasheri: thnaks, I'll wait for detailed instructions before fiddling with this 16.42.56 # Slasheri: i just flash bootloader first, then rockbox.iriver? 16.42.57 # for example it's not possible to flash rockbox.iriver unless compatible bootloader has been flashed before 16.43.12 # preglow: yes, you can't do the other way :) 16.43.22 # preglow: and do you have h120/h140? 16.43.32 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 16.43.33 # because it might not work correctly on other players 16.43.50 # h120 16.43.56 # good, should work fine 16.44.00 # we'll see :P 16.44.04 # :D 16.45.16 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.41 Join ShadowdogMU [0] (n=Brock@cpe-65-28-252-205.woh.res.rr.com) 16.45.59 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.137.232) 16.47.36 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 16.47.59 # Slasheri: what happened to you military obligation, is it over now? 16.48.29 Quit damaki (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.48.30 # XavierGr: almost, 22. it will be all over forever! :) 16.48.50 # 22 days? 16.49.00 # no, 22.8. :) 16.49.07 # ah nice 16.49.10 # hmm, 11 days :) 16.49.17 # it seems like a century 16.49.24 # hehe 16.49.52 # be a good citizen then (as we say in our country when someone ends his military enlist) 16.50.57 # So I heard that you are going to rewrite the playback engine? 16.51.02 # is that true? 16.51.42 # hmm, i would like to if i have enough time to do that :) 16.52.10 # at least partially separate the buffering system 16.52.42 # it would be the 3rd time that someone will write it agian. (and you had the first call :D) 16.52.43 Quit damaki_ (Connection timed out) 16.53.32 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 16.53.37 Part leftright 16.53.49 Quit TeaSea (Client Quit) 16.53.59 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-149-196.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 16.54.14 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 16.54.17 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.143.68) 16.55.13 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 16.55.42 # Slasheri: that was most certainly faster. thanks for helping me get rid of reatilos :) 16.56.25 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.57.52 # preglow: are you crazy? now you can't playback wma files!!! (sarcasm) 16.58.34 # I only have one wma file, and the original firmware won't play it because it's 48KHz... 16.58.45 # heh 16.58.56 # I have zero wma files, and I very much hope that number will never increase 16.59.01 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.12.176) 17.00.05 Quit TeaSea (Client Quit) 17.00.17 # I don't have wma files 17.00.33 # other people have wma files, but i happily transcode them :) 17.01.08 # So I think we're unanimous - the original firmware has no use at all on the h1x0 :) 17.01.33 # linuxstb: can't play because it's 48khz??? remarkable 17.01.45 # linuxstb: their dsp subsystem seems to be heavily intertwined in their codec system 17.02.29 # I guess so. I'm pretty sure it didn't play 48KHz vorbis either when I tried, but I think a later firmware fixed that. 17.02.43 # it does play 48khz wav and mp3, at least 17.03.50 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 17.05.30 Join CrazyMYKL [0] (n=rumors@69.37.225.87) 17.06.21 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=Terinjok@c-66-176-62-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.06.44 # can anyone help me out trying to use Plugin MpegPlayer? 17.07.07 # preglow: nice you got it working :) 17.07.27 Quit TeaSea (Client Quit) 17.07.34 # Terinjokes: What's the problem? 17.07.38 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 17.08.12 # well, on the plugin page, it gives a code to put into terminal, but that code doesn't seem to work 17.08.23 # You mean the vlc command? 17.08.44 # yeah 17.09.10 # What's the error? 17.09.21 # i've ran it from the home folder, in applications, inside the VLC.app, everywhere i can think of 17.09.21 # hold on 17.09.26 # I mean what's displayed on the screen? 17.09.33 # So you're on a Mac? 17.09.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.09.59 # yes 17.09.59 # -bash: vlc: command not found 17.11.17 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.11.17 # You need to locate the vlc executable, and then enter the full path to it. A slow way would be to enter the command "find / -name vlc" 17.12.17 # i've ran it from applications, and from withen the VLC folder (ie. /VLC.app/Contents/MacOS 17.13.10 # You may need to type ./vlc - by default Unix shells normally don't look in the current directory for programs. 17.13.24 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.13.28 # hrm, well running the find now 17.16.20 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 17.18.42 # preglow: in fact dircache hibernation didn't work but should be fixed in latest cvs 17.19.15 # -> faster boot 17.20.35 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 17.22.24 Join SeanAUS [0] (n=Terinjok@c-66-176-62-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.25.25 Quit SeanAUS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.25.29 Join SeanAUS [0] (n=Terinjok@c-66-176-62-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.25.45 Quit Terinjokes (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.26.00 # ok, um pastebin is acting up 17.26.11 Quit MadDog011 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.27.24 Nick SeanAUS is now known as Terinjokes (n=Terinjok@c-66-176-62-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.32.38 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.12.9) 17.33.15 # http://pastebin.ca/127943 17.33.35 # thats what i get when i try to convert 17.33.39 Quit vertz ("Lost terminal") 17.34.33 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 17.36.06 # Amazing how many compiler errors you can create by using (} instead of {}. 17.37.10 Join hcl [0] (i=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 17.37.40 Nick hcl is now known as HCl (i=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 17.39.46 # ah, window froze....brb 17.39.55 Part Terinjokes 17.40.17 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=Terinjok@c-66-176-62-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.40.30 # so, no answer to my question? 17.40.56 Join KaPooT [0] (n=3@65.246.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com) 17.41.20 # if i put rockbox on my iPod, do i still have to use iTunes? 17.41.26 # no 17.41.36 # it just works fine in disk mode? 17.41.41 # yeah 17.41.44 # sweet 17.41.55 # i hate iTunes 17.42.18 # do i need to keep iTunes installed or anything? 17.42.31 # in fact on my ipod (nano) itunes won't even work with the ipod (then again, i'm on mac, so it is looking for a mac formatted ipod...) 17.42.49 # if you want to use itunes, you need it install, but other wise, no 17.43.06 # k good, iTunes is a pretty sh!tty piece of software, i want nothin to do w/ it 17.43.25 # i love itunes, i don't know what your talking about 17.43.48 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.44.03 # to copy mp3's to a media player should not require nearly as bulky an interface 17.44.10 # or a windows service (two for that matter) 17.44.24 # the ipod does not require itunes 17.44.41 # well whenever i plug it in ... itunes comes up 17.44.48 # Not trying to steer you away from RockBox, but there are many capable itunes alternatives. 17.45.01 # Apple just wants you to believe that, in fact there are MANY applications that well move songs to the ipod 17.45.13 # your probably got Real Player installed 17.45.28 # Real Player is another p.o.s. 17.45.34 # i agree 17.45.48 # If itunes pops up whenever you plug in your ipod, and you hate itunes, you are not "master of your domain" 17.45.59 # i've come to terms with the fact 17.46.00 # omg the mpegplayer in H300 is rather slow? 17.46.03 # omg the mpegplayer in H300 is rather slow 17.46.04 Join metanick [0] (n=Unknown@c-65-96-191-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 17.46.06 # then uninstall itunes, and use something else 17.46.32 # rockbox isn't going to stop itunes from opening 17.46.44 # i just want something that works correctly in disk mode 100% 17.47.02 # what do you mean by that? 17.47.04 Join dropandho [0] (n=dropandh@cpe-24-193-36-91.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.47.22 # where my iPod acts just like a thumb drive (jump drive etc.) nothing more, no software interface 17.47.32 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 17.47.34 # hey guys...was wondering if there is anywhere that i can read about the EPROM stuff 17.47.34 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A460E0.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.47.50 # i see lots of work for the EPROM...but no clue what it does. 17.47.59 # Hi folks. I am about to install rockbox on my new IAudio X5. I have placed the x5_fw.bin file from the dual-bootloader on the wiki in my FIRMWARE directory and unzipped the 20060812 build zipfile into the player's root directory. Now I just disconnect the usb, power off and power on, correct? I just want to be sure I'm not about to brick my new player. =:\ 17.48.00 # well, KaPooT, rockbox uses the same drive mode the orginal ipod firmwire uses 17.48.08 # KaPooT - If you uninstall itunes and use rockbox you can do that, but even with itunes you can use your ipod as a simple drive. 17.48.22 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.48.23 # iTunes has got to go 17.48.54 # * Terinjokes doesn't see why people hate itunes, is itunes better on the mac or something? 17.49.35 # If I do a cvs commit directory_name, will it commit all of the changes in that directory, or do I need to specifically list in the cvs commit command the files that have changed. 17.50.58 # i just want to plug the dam thing in then be able to drag / drop mp3's and m3u's 17.51.17 # oh, then use rockbox 17.51.50 # though you might want to organise them a bit something Music/Artist Name/Album Name/Song Name 17.52.05 # yea i'm big on organizin it my way 17.52.15 # or whatever your why is 17.52.17 # i have a decent mp3 collection to begin with 17.52.27 # KaPooT, what ipod are you using? 17.52.33 # nano 2 gig 17.52.39 # black? 17.52.44 # of course 17.53.00 # hey, same one as me, my i suggest a theme? 17.53.14 # thats what i'm here for, to talk about this before it goes down 17.53.34 # anyone know the advantages to this EPROM work? 17.53.38 # the default themes are UGLY 17.53.52 # i suggest this one, i think it goes with the rest of the nano 17.53.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Neeon_Nano_Black 17.54.12 # so, if i put rockbox on, drag drop folders of mp3 + m3u works fine? 17.54.33 # yep, so does many other formats, OGG Vorbis for example 17.54.51 # excellent 17.55.08 # ty 17.55.13 # np 17.56.19 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.56.27 # and with rockbox, your nano plays video, or at least thats what they tell me, i can't get it to work 17.57.42 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.9.11) 17.57.49 # lol, i cna live w/ just mp3s 17.58.43 # good man, for video 'tis silly. 18.01.42 # i still can't encode transcode the video correctly...grm 18.02.32 # i just get stuck with a useless file no player on my computer can open 18.03.42 # gtg 18.03.45 Quit Terinjokes () 18.06.21 Quit lodesi ("leaving") 18.08.28 Join senab [0] (i=HydraIRC@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.09.24 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006071912]") 18.10.37 Join loco [0] (n=jochen@dslb-088-070-003-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.11.50 # hey, may i suggest a possible solution to the exclude-files-from-tagcache-problem? 18.12.18 # Does anyone have experience with wavpack lossy on rockbox? 18.12.37 # does it have a higher power consumption than vorbis on encoding? 18.12.45 # what about introducing a "filename" filter? this information is available in the cache anyway, isn't it? 18.13.21 Quit Triple-z () 18.14.12 # then, you could use clauses like Music filename ? ^ "/music" or something like that. 18.14.39 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.17.06 Quit senab (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") 18.17.13 Quit KaPooT () 18.18.04 # or filename ? !^ "/recordings", given someone implements the not operator. ;) 18.25.20 # loco: But that still means that tagcache indexes the whole disk? 18.25.59 Quit dpassen1 () 18.26.21 Quit XavierGr () 18.26.51 # yes, it does. that makes it still possible to have another setting in the config file that lets you browse the "evil files". 18.29.41 # But it doesn't help if the evilness is the existing of thousands of files you never want to view in tagcache - such as the High Voltage SID Collection. 18.30.27 # So I think both are ideas are useful - a way to filter by filename, and a way to limit the files tagcache indexes. 18.30.48 # oh, you mean it's a waste of memory. 18.31.07 # And a waste of time indexing them in the first place - there are 32000 files in the HVSC. 18.31.55 # well, but that should happen only once. 18.32.31 # But as you said, it's a huge waste of memory. 18.33.08 Join evilnick [0] (n=57521bad@labb.contactor.se) 18.33.14 # of course, i didn't take this into account. but i think it would be a nice feature anyway. 18.34.24 # I agreed with you. 18.35.32 Quit evilnick (Client Quit) 18.35.59 # hm, maybe i'll try and write a patch for that one tomorrow. i just hope, my programming skills aren't gone at all. ;) 18.39.32 # hm, i just found the example title !^ "crap" in the recent version of tagtree.c. but the ! operator doesn't yet work, does it? 18.40.40 Join evilnick [0] (i=evilnick@87.82.27.173) 18.41.15 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-095-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.42.04 # can anyone explain exactly how to flash my iRiver h140? I keep getting "incompatible bootloader" 18.42.35 # evilnick: i am just writing a wiki page for this.. you need to upgrade bootloader first 18.42.45 # http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/bootloader.iriver 18.42.55 # here you can find a compatible and tested bootloader 18.43.06 # fantastic! 18.43.40 # i'd be curious to know how many folks download rockbox builds 18.43.40 Quit loco (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.43.53 # do we have any ideas on that? 18.46.48 Join AlexBepple [0] (n=d5279c27@labb.contactor.se) 18.47.54 # Would some of the fellow users be kind enough to grant me write privileges for the TWiki? 18.49.47 # AlexBepple: sure... 18.50.23 # evilnick: did you got it working? 18.50.34 Join Febs_ [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.50.59 # Slasheri: yes, thankd for the link to the bootloader.iriver 18.51.01 Quit Febs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.51.05 # thankd = thanks 18.51.07 # evilnick: nice :) 18.51.23 # @sharpe: Thank you. 18.53.42 # there you go... 18.55.05 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.12.199) 19.00.22 Quit AlexBepple ("CGI:IRC") 19.03.22 Join lostlogic_ [0] (n=lostlogi@h-68-167-94-82.chcgilgm.covad.net) 19.03.34 Quit lostlogic_ (Client Quit) 19.09.46 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.09.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.10.37 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 19.16.19 Join bilbravo [0] (n=bilbravo@pool-70-17-238-238.balt.east.verizon.net) 19.16.42 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.14.115) 19.20.12 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 19.21.53 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 19.32.26 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.33.20 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@90.7.142.103) 19.37.29 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4B12.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.38.02 Join webguest33 [0] (n=d92cb34e@labb.contactor.se) 19.38.49 Quit webguest33 (Client Quit) 19.45.53 Join webguest03 [0] (n=d4406110@labb.contactor.se) 19.46.53 # how do i control the horizontal control steps, i.e. how do i just get it to horizontally scroll one step to the right 19.47.30 Join philth [0] (n=ceac2822@d38-179-126.home1.cgocable.net) 19.48.07 # the horizontal scroll feature os pretty unuseable as it is now, if one can't incrementally scroll horizontally 19.48.24 # here should be initial documentation about the flashing plugin http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing 19.51.00 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.35 # what on earth is the point of the horizontal scroll feature if the scroll steps aren't user slectable ? 19.53.38 Part webguest03 19.54.06 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 19.54.43 Quit mkey (""Welcome to IRC; Where men are men, women are men and little girls are FBI agents!"") 20.01.10 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-55.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.03.16 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 20.05.11 Quit qwx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.06.30 Quit Kohlriba ("Quit") 20.11.16 Join infamis [0] (n=4b038a9a@labb.contactor.se) 20.13.07 Quit infamis (Client Quit) 20.27.46 # ahah. i've got it. i know what i'm going to work on for rockbox. 20.27.59 # whats that? 20.29.01 # eh, a general compressed format viewer. like for zip, tar, bz2, gzip, etc. 20.29.20 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 20.32.29 # although i'll doubt there will be much interest in it, i'll do it anyway... 20.35.36 Join webguest16 [0] (n=d4406110@labb.contactor.se) 20.37.31 Part webguest16 20.43.47 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@110.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 20.45.39 Quit bilbravo (Remote closed the connection) 20.46.19 # sharpe: What do you mean by viewer? What are you going to do with the files once you uncompress them? 20.48.30 # linuxstb: to tell you the truth, i have no idea. i was just somehow reminded of that one plugin i horribly made, thought that i might try for one that actually works. i also don't see if there would be a need for a plugin such as this, afterall, who really needs to open a zip on their player? 20.49.25 # Exactly... 20.49.51 # well. back to thinking of an idea. 20.50.21 # How about a C64 emulator? 20.51.05 # hmm. sounds familiar. 20.52.40 # or maybe some obscure computer used for mainly games that didn't have a keyboard to emulate... 20.53.28 # Atari 2600? 20.54.23 Join niskel [0] (n=niskel@Toronto-HSE-ppp3706882.sympatico.ca) 20.54.25 # haha. why did i never think of that? 20.54.50 # You're too young... 20.56.19 # it's not that... it just never crossed my mind to emulate the atari... i have played one though... 20.58.42 # Seems it has a 6507 CPU, which is a cut-down 6502, running at 1.19MHz. Shouldn't be troublesome to emulate. 21.00.38 # yeah, i just read about that. also the graphical output shouldn't be hard at all, like the problems with speed i had with the C64 emulator, only like 160x192 pixels. 21.01.05 # which i could never fit the entire screen for the c64 on the ipod's screen anyway. 21.03.36 # or something like that. 21.04.09 Join mkey [0] (n=mkey@pD9E3666C.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.07.46 # the great question: port an emulator, or write it from scratch? 21.08.37 # has anyone encountered a situation where rockbox freezes on an iPod and makes a loud continuous buzzing tone from the device itself? 21.09.03 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 21.09.09 # i might have once. 21.09.31 # I am getting it now (not from the official build though) 21.09.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.09.56 # have you tried resetting your ipod? 21.10.06 # yes 21.10.16 # it happens every time I boot 21.10.19 # gets to the menu 21.10.25 # I press a button and it freezes 21.10.31 # and makes the buzzing sound 21.10.51 # Which unofficial build is it out of curiousity? 21.10.56 # Senab 21.11.12 # I've never heard of it before. 21.11.22 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 21.11.23 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4342.0 21.11.32 # http://www.senab.co.uk/rockbox/ 21.11.41 # Sorry, I mean I've never heard of your problem before - I know about Senab's build. 21.11.45 # oh 21.12.23 # Which ipod do you have? A hard disk one I assume? 21.12.31 # 60GB 5G 21.13.04 # If you reboot to the Apple firmware, is your ipod still working OK? 21.13.17 # how do i do that? reboot with menu button down? 21.13.39 # Yes. 21.13.53 # Have you just installed Rockbox, or do you never use the Apple firmware? 21.14.12 # I put rockbox on the first day I got it 21.14.18 # never had a use for apple firmware 21.14.46 # Original firmware works fine 21.14.58 # :) You could try resetting your Rockbox settings - turn the hold switch on as Rockbox is booting. 21.15.49 # is that not the same as deleting the .rockbox folder? 21.15.54 # not at all. 21.16.11 # No - Rockbox settings are stored in an otherwise unused disk sector between the partition table and the first partition. 21.16.28 # (it's a long story.....) 21.16.34 # haha. 21.16.40 # ... strange place for it 21.16.46 # that fixed it 21.16.48 # (it's a long story.....) 21.17.13 # Sounds like it was probably the piezo patch in Senab's build going horribly wrong. 21.17.25 # that would be my guess... 21.17.26 # okay 21.17.34 # what is the piezo patch? 21.17.39 # So perfectly harmless. 21.18.00 # The piezo is the buzzer inside your ipod that the apple firmware uses to give you an audible click when using the wheel. 21.18.13 # The piezo patch in Senab's build tries to do the same in Rockbox. 21.18.15 # okay, yeah I was using that 21.19.03 # It's always a good idea to reset your settings if you switch between official and unofficial Rockbox builds. 21.19.38 # That is what I assumed I was doing when deleting the .rockbox folder 21.19.39 # so yes 21.19.41 # makes sense 21.20.08 # also explained why I was always somehow accidentaly deleting all my settings 21.20.16 # unplugging from usb with hold on 21.21.02 # heh 21.21.12 # If you go into the Manage Settings menu, you can export your settings to a .cfg file. You can just click on that file to load them if they are ever lost. 21.21.25 # (.cfg files are text files, and survive the settings format changing) 21.21.49 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCEE2F.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.21.57 Quit PaulJam (Client Quit) 21.22.09 # one other question. is there a way in linux to have it say it is safe to unplug the device? 21.22.21 # I always unmount and eject but it still says not to disconnect 21.23.37 # I always just unmount and then pull the plug. I can't even see what's on the screen... 21.23.41 # * ender` yawns 21.24.44 # linuxstb: think i should just port an emulator? 21.26.58 Join dethecor [0] (n=dethecor@e178070071.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.27.28 Part dethecor 21.32.49 # sharpe: I don't care how you do it, as long as you finish it this time :) 21.33.18 # Are there any GPL'd emulators suitable for porting? 21.35.00 # http://stella.sourceforge.net/ maybe 21.35.26 # haha, as long as i finish it... 21.37.59 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 21.38.23 # stella is written in c++... 21.38.35 # :\ 21.38.37 # Ah, lots of fun then... 21.38.46 # Too easy otherwise.# 21.39.22 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.40.18 # http://atari800.sourceforge.net/ 21.40.24 # for a few atari models 21.40.27 # C and GPL 21.41.01 # with some added ASM for fun :) 21.42.12 # ah, but no atari 2600. 21.43.26 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.45.03 Join KaPooT [0] (n=3@65.246.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com) 21.45.14 # am i retarded, or is there no easy to find link to the skins page 21.48.00 # well ... i found it 21.48.03 # its certainly buried 21.52.03 Quit KaPooT () 21.52.13 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p508192CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.57.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing <--- is eeprom flashing of rockbox save? 22.06.53 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 22.08.27 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967E89.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.17.36 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.21.38 Quit Xerion (" ") 22.23.25 Quit Nibbler (SendQ exceeded) 22.27.40 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 22.32.00 Join Massa [0] (n=Massa@85.220.132.199) 22.35.15 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-149-196.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 22.40.14 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 22.41.20 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.45.03 Join gps [0] (i=greg@electricrain.com) 22.49.09 Part philth 22.54.41 # hello 22.56.32 Nick |apo| is now known as apo` (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-080-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.05.20 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.15.40 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.26.10 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.32.12 Quit Ribs (".") 23.41.49 Quit gps ("Leaving") 23.49.34 Quit niskel (Remote closed the connection) 23.52.27 # /quit nite 23.52.30 # uf 23.52.35 Quit Bger ("nite")