--- Log for 20.08.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 1 hour ago 00.00.47 # hotwire_, I found my remote. It's the one for the h120 00.04.32 Join mkey [0] (n=mkey@pD9E36D67.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.07.55 # * ender` has a H120 with a remote 00.08.36 # I got an operands mismatch error on an asm inline 00.11.18 # * Davide-NYC has H140 with both H100 and H300 LCD remotes but no idea how to help. 00.14.22 # wading through ols posts can be quite amusing... 00.14.24 # "god i love u! i wanna hug someone!! come Daniel Stenberg hugs are free!" 00.17.04 # Even I'm not that enthusiastic about hugs... 00.24.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.26.10 Quit lodesi ("leaving") 00.32.06 Join A_M [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 00.38.10 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.41.46 Quit mkey (""Welcome to IRC; Where men are men, women are men and little girls are FBI agents!"") 00.42.27 Join webguest85 [0] (n=5003400a@labb.contactor.se) 00.45.02 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.46.04 # Davide-NYC: What's the status of the H300 LCD remote with a current daily or CVS build? Mostly working? 00.46.29 # lol, I was just testing. 00.46.33 # gimme five 00.46.49 # Sure, I just recently got my H300 LCD remote. 00.46.56 # I got an "operands mismatch" when trying to put coldfire asm 00.47.01 # Hey... a question about the USB patch, if anyone can answer. I have it set up to "connection", meaning it should only try to get an usb connection if I hold Menu (iPod 5g). But when I connect the iPod to the wall charger, it still behaves the same as before. Attempts to get an usb connection and keeps rebooting (unless the iPod is on - this part of the behavior indeed changed). It this normal? It must be on before connecting to the wall charger? 00.47.14 # anyone have experience on that ? 00.47.31 # They're sweet right? 00.47.45 # Much nicer than the standard H1x0 LCD remote 00.48.13 # hey, when does Rockbox check for which remote is plugged in? 00.48.30 # in other words do I need to reboot after swapping remotes ornot? 00.50.30 # * Davide-NYC presumes reboot unnecessary 00.51.08 # you should only presume people are too lazy to answer =p 00.51.19 # Or just doing other things... 00.51.22 # I'm just kidding btw. 00.51.28 # Or not have knowledge of that area... 00.51.46 # =] 00.51.50 # I can call it an educated guess based on imperical evidence 00.51.55 # :-) 00.52.23 # dpassen1: do you do a lot of recording? 00.52.41 # dpassen1: do you do any rockbox developement? 00.52.57 # * Davide-NYC hoping for a coconspirator 00.55.13 Join perpleXa [0] (n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa) 00.56.44 # no, no 00.56.45 # sorry 00.56.52 # don;t be sorry 00.57.12 # I am about the development part 00.57.33 # are you using am H1xx or H3xx player? 00.58.18 Quit A_M ("CGI:IRC") 00.58.22 # H1x0's 00.58.42 # playback seems to be fine right now (current CVS) ona H1xx with H300LCD remote. 00.58.54 # so is file browsing (incomplete testing) 00.59.26 # menu The H100LCD remote is borked 00.59.36 # working on a forum post right now 01.00.45 # keyboard is borked 01.03.08 # * Davide-NYC listrening to Hand Of Fate (Rolling Stones) 01.04.41 Quit bk ("Leaving") 01.04.56 Quit ender` (" I think that's how Chicago got started. A bunch of people in New York said, 'Gee, I'm enjoying the crime and the poverty, but") 01.06.40 # Have you tried the 3x0 LCD remote w/ orig iriver firmware? 01.10.41 # davide-NYC: i believe you might be the person i'm looking for 01.11.04 # been looking for you too! :-) 01.11.07 # hehe 01.11.19 # dpassen1: No 01.11.33 # do you have the source code downloaded? 01.11.37 # dpassen1: never crossed my mind 01.11.43 # hotwire_: I do 01.11.51 # warning I know nothing about programming 01.11.56 # (almost) 01.12.10 # what can I do for us? 01.12.32 # i claim to know very little of C, and being rusty in programming... but people claim otherwise of me 01.13.10 # so like i said, i'm trying to work out how to get remote support in the UISim, i'll post my current revision of UISim/sdl/button.c 01.13.37 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 01.13.45 # cool, how are you going to tell the sim what remote is plugged into the unit? 01.13.47 Join _Lucretia [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-87-166.dslaccess.co.uk) 01.13.59 # http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=4e6 01.13.59 # The simulated unit, that is. 01.14.13 # well, according to the code that is already there, it is toggled by pressing 't' 01.14.18 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 01.14.32 # pressing 't' toggles remotes in a circle? 01.14.32 # line 115 to line 135 01.14.52 # cool 01.14.56 # didn't know that 01.15.00 # so whoever wrote that snipped originally did 01.15.10 # but there was never any support for the remotes yet. 01.15.28 # where are the STLK keys defined for the remote buttons? 01.15.36 # in what I'm working on, i've gotten main hold and remote hold working in the sim. 01.15.41 # *SDLK 01.15.53 # that's the thing. They haven't been written yet. 01.16.14 # I see 01.16.22 # but I don't know what the assignments are for the remotes in the real world, nor can I easily figure it out. 01.16.33 # I am the guy you are looking for! 01.16.34 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.16.48 # But we might have a problem 01.17.06 # You see I disagree with one small button mapping for the H100 remote as is 01.17.08 # for the h100 lcd remote, i'm planning on using 123 and 456 for the two top jogwheels, and 789 for the one on teh bottom (i'm talking about the main number bar on the keyboard here... since the numpad is already reserves) 01.17.12 # reserved 01.17.23 # I've been trying to get Mmmm or Petur to listen but they're busy and/or disagree with me 01.18.38 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.18.42 # not a bad idea, what about play and stop? 01.18.48 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 01.19.02 # ok I give up 01.19.05 # :-/ 01.19.11 # oh yes... that i have coded as 0 and - respectively 01.19.28 # I'm totally cool with that 01.19.29 # you can see them coded in preliminary right below that remote choosing code 01.20.03 # i have yet to set up the switch/case for the specific remotes, just get the h100 working first, because the UISim currently uses it exclusively 01.20.09 # i wouldn't know how to change the remote on display 01.20.11 # brb 01.20.21 # (realistically 10 mins i'll be back 01.20.33 # k 01.20.58 # Davide-NYC: Which button mapping do you disagree with? 01.21.32 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 01.21.36 # Paul_The_Nerd: Look at the images in this post 01.21.43 # don;t read any of what I wrote 01.21.58 # Paul_The_Nerd: do you know asm ? 01.22.00 # I would like the main unit buttons mapped "1to1" to the remotes 01.22.08 # Why not just say "I think X button shoud do this, but it does this instead" 01.22.17 # OK, 01.22.19 # Because I really don't know how they're mapped currently 01.22.28 # mirak: No, I do not. I am in the process of learning. 01.23.13 # Paul_The_Nerd: ok I tried to optimise some function and got an unexpected error. googling dosn't help much, it seems gcc is broken sometime 01.23.31 # Ah. =/ 01.23.36 # The current behavior of <> while in file browser is -item/action/+item I think it should be up_directory/action/action 01.23.49 Quit apo` ("Leaving") 01.23.57 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-095-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.24.00 # as if it were the LEFT/SELECT/RIGHT buttons of the main unit 01.24.20 # It's mapped as Up, Select, Down instead 01.24.25 # Relative to the H100 stick. 01.24.39 # well, right now it's broken, but yes,that's what it's supposed to be 01.24.46 # It makes perfect sense in the context of the H100 main unit. 01.24.55 # I disagree 01.25.04 # Why? 01.25.17 # Right now, you can navigate with *just* the Navi rocker. 01.25.25 # As long as you don't need to back out. 01.25.31 # Much as you can do with the stick. 01.25.48 # I guess my brain works differently 01.25.59 # I want to learn the interface once, not twice 01.26.04 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 01.26.21 # I learn the main unit and then just want a straight button mapping to the remote 01.26.33 # Well the H100 remote doesn't have the same buttons at all though 01.26.47 # check out my gifs 01.26.51 # (please) 01.26.55 # I'm not talking about button "names" 01.27.01 # I'm talking about the buttons themselves. 01.27.13 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5851.0 01.27.14 # I agree that in the H300 context, where the remotes have buttons like the main unit, mapping could/should be 1:1 01.27.32 # Dig on the images my main man 01.27.39 # I've seen the images 01.27.42 # And here's the thing that gets to me. 01.27.47 # It's incredibly silly to focus on the names of the buttons 01.27.51 # The h100 has a stick. The remote doesn't 01.28.06 # The button mapping from main unit to the "stick' changes depending on what screen you're in 01.28.15 # That's a problem, yes. 01.28.16 # WPS or file browser 01.28.23 # that's my beef 01.28.29 # What, because it goes to the next song, vs up/down in the list? 01.29.04 # You're talking about making the interface harder to use for the sake of consistency with the *naming* of the buttons on the main unit. 01.29.35 # The stick has two axes. 01.29.41 # The Navi rocker only has one. 01.29.46 # axis 01.29.49 # No man, slow down. On the main unit UP/DOWN does -vol/+vol and -item/+item 01.29.56 # Davide-NYC: I'm aware of that. 01.30.11 # What I'm saying though is that you have two axis of movement on the main stick, and only one on the navi rocker. 01.30.20 # so you figure the same button on the remote does those two things 01.30.33 # but I'm talking about two buttons. 01.30.36 # No, you don't, if you've ever used the retail firmware. 01.30.49 # The volume is mapped to the same rocker it was in retail. 01.30.55 # I see. 01.31.08 # If that's a design parameter then that makes sense. 01.31.14 # Wouldn't it be axes? 01.31.21 # sharpe: On that one, I'm honestly not sure. 01.31.26 # I'm from NYC so axesis 01.31.35 # (n' shit) 01.31.52 # I'll investigate. 01.32.03 # Davide-NYC: For most users instinctively use that rocker to try to adjust the volume, and the other to move in lists, because that's how it was done in the retail firmware. It's also simply easier to use if you click on files with the same control that you use to navigate through them. 01.32.07 # Paul_The_Nerd: I see your point about new users, but what do we care what iRiver did? 01.32.41 # I give up. Maybe I can get someone to help me code up a patch 01.32.47 # :-( 01.32.51 # Yup, plural of 'axis' is 'axes.' 01.33.21 # Davide-NYC: Is it really that hard to accept that the controls on the remote don't need to be identical to the main unit? 01.33.30 # Yes 01.33.43 # There's not even a direct analog to the left/right on the stick on main unit, on the remote. 01.33.57 Quit dwihno_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.33.57 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 01.34.03 # I think the remote needs to be a natural extention (superset or subset) of the main unit controls 01.34.11 # Why? 01.34.20 # the H100 remote has more buttons than the main unit 01.34.31 # That's not a reason why the controls should match. 01.34.44 # because Rockbox has a ton of features and the UI shouldn;t get in the way, evan when using the remote 01.34.56 # That's a reason for the controls to be chosen in a way to make them easy to use. 01.35.01 # Rather than cludging them to match the main unit. 01.35.18 # you say cludging, but I say it's clearer this way, 01.35.18 # Right now you can browse to and launch a song/playlist with one finger. 01.35.24 # Just as you can on the main unit. 01.35.32 # My finger are too fat to that anyway 01.35.34 # You're suggesting requiring a minimum of a finger move. 01.35.35 # LOL 01.35.48 # OK 01.35.50 # Right now it's easier to use, at least for those of us with nimble hands. 01.35.53 # I'll drop it. 01.35.57 # It requires a slightly longer learning curve. 01.36.01 # But I think it's an error 01.36.09 # Shorter learning curve 01.36.17 # No, the current method requires a shorter one. 01.36.19 # Relative to yours. 01.36.25 # You say tomato 01.36.30 # Err longer one. 01.36.35 # I learn the main unit and a 1to1 mapping 01.36.39 # that's it 01.36.58 # same interface re-organized over a piece of hardware 01.36.58 # And what do you do with the extra button? 01.37.17 # -10/+10 aka source/bitrate 01.37.21 # ? 01.37.37 # If you have a 1:1 mapping, you can't really justify putting anything on it. 01.37.40 # same as Play+button combo 01.37.46 # :-) 01.37.58 # which is -10/+10 in file prowser 01.38.01 # :-) 01.38.05 # *browser 01.38.11 # Play+ Up/Down, or Play+Left Right? 01.38.26 # Because left/right are folder skip in WPS, and up/down are page skip in browser. 01.38.31 # Your rules only allow you to do one of those., 01.38.46 # what does Play + Left/Right do? 01.38.51 # never used it 01.38.53 # Next folder while playing in file mode. 01.39.00 # In WPS 01.39.01 Join Irc-Gate57903 [0] (i=WOLF@chello080108120179.7.11.vie.surfer.at) 01.39.04 # that's WPS 01.39.07 # Yeah 01.39.14 # But you can't change it from Up/Down to Left/Right when you go into the WPS 01.39.18 # You've already established that rule. 01.39.19 # one thing at a time, while in File Browse -10/+10 01.39.57 # Yes, I know. 01.40.05 # I'm saying that your rules don't allow the full use of that button. 01.40.35 # K, I am of the opinion that the pitch screen would be too complicated to mess with with just the remote 01.40.47 # so Play + Left/Right in WPS 01.40.54 # back 01.40.59 # hotwire_: 01.41.22 # Paul_The_Nerd: let me know if I'm making ven the slightest bit of sense to you 01.41.26 # *even 01.41.27 # Davide-NYC: So, you're making it Play+Up/Down in filetree, and Play+Left/Right in WPS? I thought your rules didn't allow a button to change direction... 01.41.43 # You're being inconsistent with your own guidelines now. 01.42.21 # I'm not being incosistent for extant main unit buttons 01.42.40 # the extra buttons are luxuries for us to do whatever we deem best with 01.42.41 # So your basis on what a button is, is wholly based on what it's labelled? 01.42.43 # :-0) 01.42.49 # yes 01.42.52 # in a sense 01.43.03 Quit Irc-Gate57903 (Client Quit) 01.43.13 # I'm basing it on it's pre-existence on the main unit to allow for faster easier learning and usuing 01.43.20 # *using 01.43.37 # One set of commands, two pieces of hardware 01.43.42 # that is a slippery slope, as different targets have different default buttons and actions. 01.43.51 # Yeah 01.44.09 # should rockbox attempt comfort with a target's original firmware, or with itself? 01.44.15 # I believe the latter. 01.44.20 # no, I'm just talking about the iRiver H1xx, H3xx and their respective LCD remotes 01.44.28 # I agre Soap 01.44.46 # My suggestion goes against the iRiver firmware 01.44.56 # My main concern thought is that while it takes a few less minutes to learn, it's more cludgy (in my opinion) to use. 01.45.12 # Neither of the buttons on the remote are actually "Up/down" they're both "Left/Right" 01.45.26 # The only reason the joystick does what it does is because of its orientation relative to the screen. 01.45.26 # you mean physically? 01.45.29 # Physically, yes. 01.45.41 # It makes perfect sense that the "Navi" rocker is in control of navigation actions 01.45.46 # In the filetree this is moving up and down 01.45.57 # In the playlist, this is ALSO moving up and down, which results in next/previous song. 01.46.11 # From a navigational perspective, the use of the rocker is internally consistent 01.46.17 # davide-nyc: did you get my pm? 01.46.24 # hotwire_: nope 01.46.26 # looking now 01.46.26 # But you feel insistent on looking at it relative to the button mappings on the main unit instead, which I think is a logical fallacy. 01.47.06 # davide-nyc: going to add you to my msn from your forum email address, if okay 01.47.09 # Instead the remote should be looked at on its own, ignoring the main units existence and controls at all, and controls for it should be chose based as if it were a player on its own. 01.47.10 # Paul_The_Nerd: I think you're getting hung up on the remote being labelled. Scratch off the paint and think about it. 01.47.33 # "the remote should be looked at on its own," I disagree 01.47.34 # Davide-NYC: I am ignoring the paint. I want to be able to able to use *one* control to get to my music. 01.47.51 # OK. 01.47.55 # we disagree 01.47.57 # that's cool 01.48.10 # I just don't understand your obsession with the main unit. 01.48.13 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.48.15 # There are three remotes, and two main units. 01.48.39 # some dev out there might read this exchange and say "hey my brain works like that too!" and help an dolt like me out. 01.48.47 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 01.48.51 # the non-LCD ermote is a different case 01.49.15 # too much of a subset and it doesn't give you any clue as to what screen you're in 01.49.36 # so I consider it always in the WPS 01.49.44 # What? 01.50.21 # I consider it's controls to only make sense for volume and track skip/nudge 01.50.31 # (the non-LCD remote) 01.51.48 # The non-LCD remote is in a category of its own yes. 01.52.15 # hotwire_: help me read this code 01.52.29 # Well. Just backed up 7.1 gigs of music onto dvds... 01.52.33 # But I'll fight remapping of the H100 LCD's buttons. The H300, if the actual Up and Down don't do volume in WPS and up/down in the list, I'll agree with that changing, as the buttons are physically up and down. But there's no reason to bend the H100 to a faulty paradigm and make it harder to actually *use* just to make it very slightly easier to understand. 01.52.55 # davide-nyc: you mean the code snippet i referenced to you? 01.53.02 # yeah lines 930 on 01.53.19 # * Davide-NYC wonders how I make through the day being this stupid 01.54.20 # ok hotwire, the buttons are names as they are labelled on the iRiver remotes. The thing is, these were labelled two different ways depending on whether they were for HD or CD units 01.54.39 # I will write you a table and PM you 01.54.53 # beauty... i hope it's the right info i'm looking for. 01.55.38 # do you still need a *rough* explanation of that code? 01.55.45 # nah I think I get it 01.56.00 # remember, i don't even have an iriver... most of this is greek to me as is 01.56.02 # I also think that an image would be better than a table 01.56.07 # no worries 01.56.12 # send me what you can. 01.56.14 # pictures are better for this purpose 01.57.54 # amiconn: are you online? 01.58.18 # bah... should have looked at the names in the channel first to see 01.59.56 Join Guest62095 [0] (i=none@c-69-242-208-154.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.00.08 # hey guys 02.00.22 Nick Guest62095 is now known as hooded (i=none@c-69-242-208-154.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.00.29 Nick hooded is now known as hooded_robin (i=none@c-69-242-208-154.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.00.32 # hello? 02.01.33 # Did you have a specific question? 02.02.13 # yeah dude, can i install Rockbox... without having to reformat 02.02.30 # i just really dont want to remove all my songs and then reload them on my ipod 02.02.53 # Yes, you can. 02.03.06 Join Rudy4Pez [0] (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 02.03.20 # okay. and can i play movies on my tv with the tv connector? 02.03.39 # Nope. 02.03.46 # cause i saw the question on the fourms... and it didnt give a clear answer 02.04.00 # sharpe: alright... but can i still play movies on it? 02.04.08 # like just the ipod itself 02.04.18 # You can always reboot into the retail firmware 02.04.26 # In which case you can do everything it could do before, there. 02.04.27 # Yeah, but at the moment there is no audio, only video. 02.04.53 # ... kinda of voids the reason of having a video ipod... 02.05.00 # i might just get a 3g, for flac 02.05.02 # and no mpeg4 video, and the video doesn't play at full speed and... 02.05.15 # you don't have a video ipod - you have an "iPod with Video" 02.05.19 # ;) 02.05.25 # Soap: yeah... 02.05.33 # hooded_robin: That would be why you should boot into the original firmware for playing videos. :) 02.05.36 # and I don't know anyone who watched video on their ipod after a month. 02.05.50 # the only reason they call it that, is cause steve jobs said... "there will never be a "video ipod" " 02.06.26 # sorry if i offened the 5 people out there who use macs 02.06.35 # hahah 02.06.40 # no, the reason they call it that is because it is a _music_ player which has some sub-optimal video capabilities. 02.06.53 # soap... too true 02.07.08 # atleast allow it to play divx.. i mean come on 02.07.27 # sharpe: does it hurt reflashing the firmware like that? 02.07.38 # You don't flash the firmware with the iPods. 02.07.40 # you aren't reflashing the firmware. 02.07.49 # what are you doing? 02.07.59 # only replacing the bootloader, and rockbox gets launched from the hard drive 02.08.00 # Essentially, changing the bootloader. 02.08.21 # too bad theres not a multi boot loader 02.08.29 # There is 02.08.29 # There is. 02.08.33 # seriously? 02.08.36 # Yes. 02.08.37 # Which is why I said earlier you can always reboot into the retail firmware 02.08.40 # The Rockbox bootloader. 02.08.41 # you guys are effing awesome 02.08.42 # * Paul_The_Nerd wishes people would listen to what he said. 02.08.48 # and all the important safety parts of the ipod firmware are in hardware (I know that sounds odd) so the chances of bricking are 0.00000000001% 02.09.12 # Soap: and couldnt you always just do a reformat to fix it? 02.09.23 # hotwire_: I PMed you, let me know if it's OK and I'll do the other two remotes 02.09.33 # ive bricked minea couple times, with ipod linux 02.09.44 # hooded_robin: You don't really brick iPods without any physical damage to it. You just have mishaps with the bootloader. 02.09.48 # you can always (as long as the hard drive works) replace the bootloader back to the original. 02.10.05 # and "bricking" = dead = you can't brick a unit more than once. 02.10.50 # davide-nyc: out-f*cking-standing 02.11.01 # so this rockbox, boot loader... it comes with it or is it an additonal dl? 02.11.05 # that is what i've been looking for. 02.11.15 # hooded_robin: It's all covered in the instructions 02.11.17 # hotwire_: you need me to do the H300LCD? 02.11.21 # Paul_The_Nerd: thats man 02.11.26 # yes, all 3 please. 02.11.32 # NMP 02.11.34 # thanks* 02.11.36 # *NP 02.11.47 # hooded_robin - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 02.12.12 # read it - it covers every aspect of the install, and has links to all needed files. 02.12.23 # thanks guys. Seriously 02.12.36 # cause apple sucks... and .flac owns 02.12.54 Quit hooded_robin ("(rockbox is the shit kids)") 02.13.40 # Aww. He likes Rockbox. 02.14.11 # just make sure your .flac is proper and doesn't have ID3 tags. 02.14.19 # anyone porting nethack to rockbox? ;) 02.14.36 # Most windows players deal with such non-standard shit, but rockbox don't play that way. 02.14.46 # oh, he's gone. 02.14.48 # Soap: he left. 02.16.08 # blx: I've thought about it... 02.16.09 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.16.35 # morning all 02.16.49 # evening one 02.16.56 Quit webguest85 ("CGI:IRC") 02.17.13 # sharpe, sadly it needs _a lot_ of buttons 02.17.25 # blx: That's why I never got around to it :) 02.18.08 Join fatherfork [0] (n=fatherfo@adsl-224-18-195.asm.bellsouth.net) 02.20.20 # is there a list of rockbox games anywhere? 02.20.29 # Davide-NYC: Please, don't post something as a "bug" if it's working how it's supposed to be working, and you disagree with what was chosen. 02.20.33 # The wiki page PluginIndex 02.20.58 # thankyou 02.21.08 # Welcome. 02.21.09 # i'm concidering buying an iAudio X5 02.21.38 # Anyone here familiar with the create thread function because I think I might have spotted a problem. 02.21.56 # Paul_The_Nerd: Dude, I was oviously kidding and explained the proper design spec in the post. 02.22.19 # Davide-NYC: But you also knew that was entirely the wrong place to even bring it up, then, because that's a thread specifically for bugs in the new button code. 02.22.35 # Paul_The_Nerd: I'll put a winky in, OK? 02.22.38 # Which, if you knew it wasn't a bug, means that your post is in the wrong place because of that. Either way, you posted wrongly. 02.22.58 # Paul_The_Nerd: easy, take it easy. 02.23.11 # Seriously though, why did you post it there if you knew it was off-topic? 02.23.22 # :'( cvs build table is too wide for 1024x768 now.. 02.23.59 # I'll remove it. 02.24.02 # JdGordon: Good thing I'm 1280x800 02.24.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.11 # Another thing: Why are the x5 buttons going nutty now? 02.24.20 # JdGordon: I'm at 1600x1200 02.24.28 # because they havnt been set up corectly yet 02.24.29 # Davide-NYC: My concern was that you already confused Mmmm in there, from the looks of it. 02.24.43 # LOL 02.24.52 # Because he thought you were actually reporting a bug. 02.25.01 # jdgordon, innocent bystander 02.25.26 # Paul_The_Nerd, you aren't on a macbook are you? Maybe a new sony? 02.25.27 # ye, i have no idea what is going on anymore in that thread 02.25.33 # They seems to work quite nicely before. :) 02.25.42 # fatherfork: Nope. Year 'n a half-old emachines 02.25.48 # ah 02.26.20 # Oh sure... don't comment about Sharpe's resolution... :( 02.26.22 # JdGordon: Gee, wouldn't it be nice if people stayed on topic? ;) 02.26.30 # ye 02.26.30 # JdGordon: in my latest build (from a couple hours ago) the H100 remote FF/REW were file browsing ACTION/UP instead of +item/-item 02.26.34 # wow, sharpe, that's amazing 02.26.43 # :( 02.26.44 # may be fixed now 02.26.47 # great res there buddy 02.26.56 # haha 02.27.09 # Davide-NYC: i just checked it and it works how t did before all the changes on mine... 02.27.13 # * jhMikeS thinks off topic day should be every Sunday 02.27.20 # I can't look at most analog screens at 1024x768 02.27.30 # I can handle digital ones if it's the native resolution. 02.27.52 # jhMikeS: This sunday (well, late sunday evening / monday morning) is going to be "ZOMG WHERE ARE THE FORUMS" day. 02.28.05 # Pushing power to turn off the x5 makes the menus go up a level and there's huge lists of number for things like the BL timeout 'n' stuff. 02.28.10 # JdGordon: I'll DL latest from CVS 02.28.12 # I'm fine with smaller resolutions on LCD screens, however on CRTs they annoy me. 02.28.28 # It's "i've gotta shower" day. ;) 02.29.32 # Paul_The_Nerd: Saying the forums were f**cked? 02.30.35 # Strange, I have programs I wrote that I have no idea what they do. 02.31.09 # jhMikeS: It's just reorganization, but I bet 90% of users never saw the announcement of it upcoming. 02.31.10 # "execute" 02.31.57 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5442 <-- Hehehe. 02.32.19 # haha, nice 02.32.35 # they planning infiltration? 02.32.35 # Paul_The_Nerd: what gmt are you? 02.32.52 # in firmware/driver/button.c at lines 930 are a bunch of button defines. I can;t understand what one of them is. 02.33.00 # please help 02.33.13 # why are you looking there? 02.33.25 # to help hotwire 02.33.29 # Paul_The_Nerd: or better yet, when its 2am your time, what is it gmt +10? 02.33.36 # stand by... looking 02.34.01 # he's trying to write remote sims and need a physicall understanding of what the buttons are on the remotes themselves 02.34.15 # JdGordon: ~6pm? 02.34.34 # ok, cool.. i should be around to help out then 02.34.55 # The '~' allows for the time to deviate from what it actually is. 02.35.02 # davide-nyc: which line in particular are you stuck on? 02.35.28 # ~ = shift in the spacetime continuum? 02.35.58 # well, my remotes not labeles bitrate or source so I don't know if those are left/right or right/left... 02.36.10 # 970 02.36.17 # to994 02.36.45 # * Davide-NYC can't type with all these remotes laying all over the place 02.37.42 # sharpe: The ~ allows for my mental math to be off by a couple hours stupidly 02.37.45 # Or something similar 02.37.51 # if I go to the debug menu on my unit and view I/O ports can't I confirm what buttons are what? 02.38.06 Join infamis [0] (n=4b037fcc@labb.contactor.se) 02.38.22 # lack of the remotes kinda screws me too... though could try to implement in UISim and figure out which they are by running the sim 02.38.26 # I don't see a big problem as long as our forums aren't down for longer than 48 hours. But I expect that it shouldn't take more than 6, at the long end. 02.38.29 # The ~ means add or subtract however many hours to get the real time it's supposed to be :D 02.38.54 # I've (crudely) got the h100 lcd remote running in the sim 02.39.06 # hotwire_: lines 970 to 994 02.39.13 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 02.39.27 # dumb question....is the bootloader (for the iaudio x5) rockbox.iaudio (the 53kb one, not the full-fledged firmware) or bootloader.bin? and I just rename to x5_fw.bin? 02.39.47 # bootloader.bin 02.39.56 # infamis: Why not download the one from the wiki? 02.39.58 # you need to use scramble 02.40.23 # cause it's easier 02.40.43 # * jhMikeS likes custom bootloaders 02.41.05 # I just can't remember whether mkboot was run on rockbox.iaudio or bootloader.bin 02.41.14 # since they're both the same size 02.41.22 # (53KB) 02.41.52 # no...just ignore rockbox.iaudio from the bl build 02.42.03 # Never check but I suspect they're the same 02.44.09 # hmm...so they changed it to scramble.c? 02.44.11 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.44.38 # that's why mkboot was telling me -iax5 doesn't work 02.45.38 # Paul_The_Nerd: I may be causing confusion. Maybe I should remove my gifs from the forum. Mmmm just mentioned something about using BUTTON_RIGHT and BUTTON_LEFT, presumably in code somewhere. 02.46.16 # infamis: different tool for x5 02.46.38 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 02.46.44 # I would hate to think I planted some suggestive images on the firum which caused this... (if it's actually a ocurring problem) 02.46.50 # Davide-NYC: You should at least make it clear that those GIFs are based on the button labels, and not what their actions are supposed to be in Rockbox 02.47.06 # I will revise accordingly. 02.47.14 # jhMikeS: so mkboot is deprecated? 02.47.23 # 'scramble' is the new one? 02.48.04 # someone feel like briefly explaining how these data reanges work in defining remote buttons? I see a lot of "if (data < 0x5b)" statement that I don't understand. 02.48.06 # infamis: don't know if it's deprecated but I think it's iRiver only 02.48.21 Quit dwihno (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.48.24 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 02.48.52 # scramble -iaudiox5 bootloader.bin x5_fw.bin 02.49.03 Join keilj [0] (n=jimmykei@203-59-83-31.dyn.iinet.net.au) 02.49.26 # yeah got to work....just got my x5 back from rma'ing it...they put on some odd firmware 02.49.28 # Davide-NYC: If you look in the debug screen under View I/O ports, you can see the values change when buttons are pressed. They don't land on specific values, but rather within a certain range. 02.49.33 # got *it* to work 02.50.05 # odd firmware? what was so odd about it? 02.50.24 # some 2.04k version...korean version it seems...funny, since I live in Chicago and sent it back to somewhere in California 02.50.39 # menu was all in Korean, some 'new' videos were on it, etc... 02.50.45 # ah 02.51.02 # Davide-nyc: is it just me, or in the code for the H300 non LCD remote, the play button is missing? 02.51.12 # That's what I thought! 02.51.19 # iaudio 5.avi, iaudio g3.avi, iaudio info.avi, iaudio u2.avi, iaudio x5.avi 02.51.31 # also, what is BUTTON_RC_ON? 02.51.40 # rc_on is the play button 02.51.48 # is that select (aka navi) 02.51.55 # OK 02.52.01 Part keilj 02.52.06 # so what about the center of the joystick? 02.52.14 # (select) 02.52.15 # rc_select isnt it? 02.53.05 # infamis: I guess they gave you the ones for other players 02.53.35 Join webguest69 [0] (n=52a68293@labb.contactor.se) 02.53.51 # Jd 02.53.52 # yea, it's funny though, cause since I Just got it back like less than an hour ago, already throwing rockbox back on 02.54.25 # I had flashed it to the default firmware before sending it out it and it just acted oddly, guess they felt they had to reflash theirselves 02.54.35 # JdGordon: I dont't see it in button.c 02.54.54 # .. it must be there.. somewhere :p 02.55.19 # infamis: no time to waste getting that cowon junk off there. 02.55.25 # I did a search 02.56.05 # hi there, 02.56.32 # JdGordon: do you know whether for the H300 remote BUTTON_RC_BITRATE is the left or right button? 02.56.46 # Davide-NYC: navi on the remote is rc_menu 02.56.57 # dunno.. onyl havre the h100 lcd remote 02.57.23 # I was wondering how optimizin a codec is done. is there anyone here who knows how to do such things? 02.57.40 # *optimizing 02.57.54 # lots of asm 02.58.10 # alright people, I'm out....back in business with rb... 02.58.14 Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 02.58.35 # no C? 02.58.59 # a bit of c.. but i think most optimizing comes from asm 02.59.38 # JdGordon: H300 top jogwheel left gives "B8" in debug I/O 02.59.54 # ..ok? 03.00.29 # jogwheel right gives 9F, is there a way to determine fromt he code in button.c which is which? 03.00.37 # :-) 03.00.48 # ye, just add zeros :p 03.00.58 # webguest69: A lot of the optimizing is done by figuring out faster ways to do certain steps based on the hardware available in specific categories of players. So you need to, generally, understand how to make code faster for a sepcific type of processor, which often results in ASM level tweaking. 03.02.15 # Davide-NYC: i got no idea sorry.. 03.02.23 # k 03.02.25 # thanks 03.03.59 # I see. that means that with my (basic) knowledge of c I can't be of much help in that area. too bad, as I would like to have the m4a codec optimized for the h1x0.. 03.04.40 # webguest69: me too! 03.05.23 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 03.05.41 # thanks anyway, and goodnight 03.06.19 Quit webguest69 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.06.45 # hotwire_: Problems! 03.07.01 # |= means NOT equal right? 03.07.15 # no 03.07.16 # != means does not equal. 03.07.18 # if so everything I sent you is wrong 03.07.31 # what does "pipe" "equal" mean 03.07.32 # ? 03.07.39 # a |= 1 means a = a OR 1 03.07.48 # bitwise or 03.08.02 # * Davide-NYC whew! 03.08.29 # like a += 2 means a = a+2 03.11.14 # I know more than nothing about coding now! 03.11.34 # knowledge += 1 03.11.57 # knowledge++ 03.12.11 # you're giving me too much credit 03.12.14 # :=P 03.12.15 # would anyone like to ssh into my box and config my kernel for me?? 03.12.20 # Coders are lazy, so they came up with an even shorter way to write +=1, which is ++ 03.12.24 # Because you have to do it so often 03.14.42 # hotwire_: PM sent 03.15.07 # thanks, checking out now 03.17.14 # Paul_The_Nerd: check it: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5851.msg45257#msg45257 03.17.16 # davide-nyc: i guess we just code it in one way, find out if it's right, and if not, switch them 03.17.32 # LOL is that how it's done?!? 03.17.36 # sure 03.18.21 # hotwire_: BTW, how are you going to map the H300 remote to the keyboard? 03.18.34 # actually, was open to suggestions on that one 03.18.37 # i say use wasd like first person shooters 03.18.44 # * Davide-NYC doom 03.19.09 # hmm maybe not, lemme thinkl 03.19.37 # got it 03.19.38 # for ease of coding at this point (most of this case switch is going to be rewitten after i get a better idea of how amiconn wants it) 03.20.14 # prettymuch 't' is already taken, as is the number bar, and the numpad for normal unit operation. 03.20.34 # although... main hold is set for numpad7, and remote hold is set for numpad1 03.20.55 # if anything, a temporary setup would be nice. 03.21.46 # did we ever figure out an answer to the missing button on the non-lcd remote? 03.23.29 # JdGordon: is Play/Pause defined in button.c for the non-LCD remote? I can't find it. It's not RC_SELECT or BUTTON_RC_ON. 03.24.04 # JdGordon: line 997 to 1009 03.24.28 Quit barrywardell () 03.24.47 # Davide-NYC: Okay. Thanks for the clarification. Makes confusion less likely. :) 03.25.05 # I would hate to cause someone to break something 03.25.23 # JdGordon: this remote right here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5851.0;attach=957;image 03.26.21 # Bagder: You now have a spiffy badge. 03.27.06 # question: if I mess with the file keymap-h1x0_h3x0.c (on my own machine of course) could I generate a patch for my custom button behaviors? 03.27.12 # *just that file. 03.27.51 # isn't there one of the players who's play and right are in fact the same button? 03.30.51 # "Select" and "Right" do the same thing on many players right now 03.32.39 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.33.04 # but without having someone with that remote on the forum right now, we're unsure if that's teh case for this remote? 03.33.14 # or the irc channel rather 03.33.45 # hotwire_: PM sent 03.34.07 # I have the H100 and H300 LCD remotes 03.34.13 # not the non-LCD one 03.34.21 # what do you need me to do> 03.37.34 # BRB 03.37.37 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 03.40.19 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@HSE-Hamilton-ppp3513235.sympatico.ca) 03.44.50 Join scott666 [0] (n=scott666@c-24-245-74-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.45.04 Part scott666 03.47.11 # we just need to find someone who does have the non lcd remote. 03.48.06 # * Paul_The_Nerd is ready to introduce the new "Coder" and "Artist" badges, after the forum change. 03.49.50 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.50.17 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 03.54.25 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 03.55.16 # help... ive been installing gentoo and the filesystem is wrong :'( i did mke2fs except the parition table still thinks its ntfs.. how do i fix it? 03.55.48 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 03.56.41 # or do i tar the whole parititon up, reformat it and untar it back? 03.57.14 Quit perpleXa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.59.25 Quit Allanon1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.02.11 Quit blx ("quit") 04.02.23 # JdGordon: I can't help you there... 04.02.28 # Argh 04.02.41 # * Paul_The_Nerd still can't find a solution for allowing members to set their birthday before Dec, 1969 04.03.25 # if they are that old they shouldnt be allowed :D 04.03.27 # Well, we all know people born before then aren't involved in open source projects... 04.03.54 # Nor use open source software. 04.06.19 # 1974, can I stay? 04.10.28 Join gasdgasdgasdgasd [0] (n=Sinbios@HSE-Toronto-ppp301538.sympatico.ca) 04.15.57 # Alrighty, I've gone and requested help at the SMF forums. 04.16.09 # SMF? 04.16.34 # Simple Machines Forums 04.17.36 # Ah. 04.18.38 # Paul_The_Nerd: Remember about your MSN crashing? :D 04.18.58 # sharpe: Yeah, apparently it *was* a real bug. 04.19.04 # I've installed an unofficial fix, for the moment. 04.19.11 # Yeah, I just read about it. 04.19.22 # Hasn't crashed for me though... 04.19.30 # Paul_The_Nerd, on the iPod Status page, under known issues(4G Models and Higher), it still says "No click sound played when click wheel is used." Should that be updated? 04.19.40 # or wait, that's still a patch. 04.19.46 # Yeah, still a patch 04.19.54 # Oh well. 04.19.58 # sharpe: It only happens to windows users, and apparently only some of them, or something. 04.20.05 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs 04.20.07 # Strange. 04.20.10 # Indeed 04.20.13 Quit jaebird (Remote closed the connection) 04.20.19 # It has something to do with the login cookie 04.20.22 # Maybe windows users named Paul? 04.20.35 # One workaround for 1.5 gaim users was to actually sign in using the real MSN messenger, then sign out, and sign in with GAIM. 04.21.37 # Now... how should I choose who gets "Artist" and "Coder" badges? Should I simply post an announcement and let people apply for them? "Point me to your Patches or WPSes, and I'll give you one, or if I don't, explain why I chose not to?" 04.22.03 # I'd go for the apply-for-one way... 04.22.29 # Either way, that's for after the forum move. 04.22.34 # I've uploaded the badges already though. 04.22.37 # Indeed 04.23.14 # Because I needed to test out the FTP access. Need to remember to transfer the files in binary mode. 04.23.24 # Gee, I've only been defragging the past hour, 36% done. 04.23.35 # Ah, you've gotten ftp access? 04.24.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.24.54 # As of a few hours ago, yup 04.25.08 # I've installed the security updates now, and uploaded the badges. 04.25.16 # Ah. 04.26.22 # * Paul_The_Nerd still doesn't know why he doesn't get notification emails. 04.26.29 # Rockbox is listed for number 37 on http://www.econsultant.com/i-want-open-source-software/index.html 04.26.33 # It seems to have something to do with my @yahoo address though. 04.26.38 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.26.39 # what's the msn thing? 04.26.46 Nick gasdgasdgasdgasd is now known as Sinbios (n=Sinbios@HSE-Toronto-ppp301538.sympatico.ca) 04.26.55 # BHSPitMonkey: Gaim crashing when trying to sign into an msn account. 04.27.05 # just on 1.5? 04.27.11 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.27.13 # No, it's in 2.0rc2 and 3 as well 04.27.15 # I've used 2.0beta3 since it's been out 04.27.16 # ouch 04.27.25 Join BenPod [0] (n=falkjf@fctnnbsc15w-156034070009.nb.aliant.net) 04.27.30 # Only happens for some people though. 04.27.30 # It started earlier this week, but doesn't affect everyone 04.27.33 # hey all 04.27.39 # * BHSPitMonkey tries it 04.27.42 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 04.27.44 # wait, is it only for windows? 04.27.47 # Yeah 04.27.48 # Yes 04.27.51 # it just signed in successfully for me 04.27.58 # lovin the rockbox, had to downgrade to FW1.1 04.28.31 # Woohoo. 04.29.11 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.40 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 04.29.56 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 04.31.07 # hmm, I do have a quick question, can I play podcast videos in rockbox? 04.31.14 # Not really. 04.31.20 # Rockbox doesn't have full video support yet 04.31.53 Join bd [0] (i=brimmy@CPE-144-133-100-122.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 04.32.06 # ahhh, cuz I played a dave chapell episode, but the playback wasnt regular speed, and there was no sound.. 04.32.29 # I'm surprised it played at all. 04.33.45 # 43%... 04.33.49 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 04.34.28 Quit ww2- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.34.39 # :) 04.35.15 # but I dont know if a podcast is in a different format.. or maybe I would have to convert it to mpeg, from mp4 04.36.33 # podcast format comes in mp4 or h.264 04.37.30 # ahh, so maybe Ill just have to convert it 04.37.41 # what you -could- do, is write a script that works with a podcast-fetching app, and have the incoming videos converted to a rockbox-frlendly format 04.37.48 # that'd be cool. 04.37.55 # And not too hard? 04.37.58 # or modify the program's source itself for your own need 04.38.18 # that would rule, if I liked to program 04.38.31 # Of course, without sound, at the moment podcasts are mostly useless. ;) 04.38.47 # Unless they have subtitles already in the video. 04.39.05 # or you knew all the words in your head 04.39.19 # Reading lip is a handy tool. 04.39.49 # or they're something with value to the picture rather than the narration. like funny videos or something, I dunno 04.39.50 # true 04.40.15 # maybe write a lip-reading plugin for rockbox? that processes the image and renders subtitles, in realtime? 04.40.25 # think you could give that a try, sharpe ? 04.40.39 # Only if you write the first half. 04.40.52 # k 04.46.01 # speaking of plugins, are there more plugins than what come with roxbox? 04.46.37 Part bd (" BRIMSTONE IS OFF THE FUCKING HOOK") 04.50.14 # 51% done... 04.50.17 # BenPod: Not really. There are some in the patch tracker, but you usually most compile them yourself 04.51.17 # I can't figure out why this code isn't working right... it accepts all remote inputs, regardless of the remote set at the time: http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=4e6 04.53.34 # ahh, np.. I was pretty pumped to find the version of frozen bubble on there tho. 04.56.26 Quit fatherfork () 04.56.52 # bahh, dang itunes and its renaming of files... bahhh.. 04.57.09 # * sharpe casually points out Tagcache. 04.57.23 Join vcardenas [0] (n=cda02026@labb.contactor.se) 04.57.57 # hmm, tagcache eh.. i think i ran that. but maybe im scrolling throught the files wrong 04.58.16 # You've probably not changed the file view. 04.58.58 Join Lynx [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 04.58.58 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-68-252-4-207.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 04.59.01 # so whats the best way to do that? 04.59.19 # Hold menu for the quickmenu, and press play until it shows "ID3 Database" 04.59.37 # Then menu to go back... 04.59.59 # okie 05.00.28 # what about playlists? will they also display the id3 tag? 05.00.41 # Eh? 05.00.48 Quit slimeball (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.00.48 Quit Slasheri (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 Quit jhMikeS (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 Quit dongs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 Quit lostlogic (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 Quit Siku (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 Quit Lynx_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.00.48 Nick Lynx is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 05.00.55 # Playlists will only show the filename 05.01.01 # Because a playlist is simply a list of filenames. 05.01.11 # ahhhh 05.01.28 # I thought there was a way to also display the tag 05.02.16 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.02.16 NJoin dongs [0] (n=HPUX@h193107.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 05.02.34 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.02.52 NJoin slimeball [0] (i=jew@trailer-park.net) 05.03.16 NJoin lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@temporal.lostlogicx.com) 05.04.58 # H100 remote buttons during file browser still messed up. 05.05.05 # details here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5829.msg45955#msg45955 05.06.02 # davide-nyc: i checked with the online h300 manual... the play/pause is definitely a button on the remote... but is it in the code? 05.06.50 # hotwire_: I know nothing, but I presume that the button code is in fact missing 05.07.00 # look at line 1035 05.07.03 # that might very well be it 05.07.07 # I presume we are talking about the non-LCD remote 05.07.43 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-24-129-89-52.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.07.46 # this guy right here:http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5829.0;attach=982;image 05.07.51 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5829.0;attach=982;image 05.08.46 # davide-nyc - yup 05.10.34 # jdgordon is the 'point man' on the recent new button code. I have asked him here. No reply... I will PM him. 05.11.07 # i think that's it... good to go 05.11.47 # I might just buy one of those crappy remotes/ 05.14.55 Nick [HO]volt is now known as [HO]vo|t (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 05.18.04 # i want to be a girl. 05.18.29 # <[HO]vo|t> why. 05.18.37 # What's stopping you? 05.18.51 Nick _jhMikeS_ is now known as jhMikes (n=jethead7@adsl-68-252-4-207.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 05.19.00 Nick jhMikes is now known as jhMikeS (n=jethead7@adsl-68-252-4-207.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 05.19.07 # certain male features. 05.19.24 # They have operations for those. 05.19.25 # * Soap waves his fairy wand. 05.19.29 # That can be fixed 05.19.39 # oh boy! 05.19.45 # oh girl* 05.19.45 # :P 05.20.19 # =:D 05.20.25 # :) 05.20.30 # * qwm hides 05.21.09 Quit BenPod () 05.24.06 Part Paul_The_Nerd 05.24.24 Nick jhMikeS is now known as Rupaul (n=jethead7@adsl-68-252-4-207.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 05.26.47 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 05.31.17 Quit Rupaul ("Client exited") 05.31.30 Join chendo_ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-54-172.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.38.11 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 05.43.52 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 05.45.12 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.45.17 Quit chendo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.46.32 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-13-189.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 05.46.39 Join webguest60 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 05.47.16 # davide-nyc: you still here? 05.47.26 # for a little bit longer 05.47.29 # wassup 05.48.09 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 05.48.15 # looks like i've got the code working... 05.48.50 # all 3 remotes, i've set it up so that they are all on different keys, since i lack a way at present to show which remote is actually on 05.49.02 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.49.10 # Ping FreeBlues. 05.49.29 # Hmm 05.49.29 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 05.49.37 # what do you mean? 05.49.48 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 05.49.54 # all remotes are active, all keys are active? 05.50.05 # no, only one remote is available at any given moment 05.50.25 # either H100, H300LCD, H300NONLCD, or NONE 05.50.36 # hell hath no fury like a 13-year-old with ops on efnet 05.50.54 # hitting 't' toggles between them... i'll post the code 05.50.59 # OK, how do you determine which remote is active? 05.51.13 Join webguest40 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 05.51.56 # that's the current problem... i have no way of showing which one is in use. It's sorta a matter of personal trial and error with the 3 remote keysets to figure out which (if any) is on. 05.52.22 # FreeBlues from Head-Fi, if you're here let me know. 05.52.29 # I don't suppose anyone online is really familiar with the UISim? 05.52.33 # I have an idea. I do not know if this is at all possible. 05.52.58 # can you use the Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LEDs? 05.53.05 # hotwire_: Why not make it an option in say, the debug menu, rather than letting T toggle? 05.53.22 # good idea 05.53.23 # how persay to i reach this debug menu? 05.54.26 # davide-nyc - The num, caps, or scroll locks are not a good one to be playing with. I explained why in the forum topic UISimulator 05.54.37 # there are enough reasons why not to do it. 05.55.00 # didn;t read the forum topic, please send link. 05.55.44 Quit webguest60 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.56.01 # hotwire_: Go into the main menu, then choose "Info" at the bottom, then there's a choice for the debug menu. 05.56.07 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1479.15 05.56.10 # last post on that page 05.56.16 Join webguest73 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 05.56.25 # * Paul_The_Nerd isn't sure where it's handled in the code 05.56.29 # hey febs, freelues here 05.56.43 # Hey. 05.57.02 # if you want, you can type /nick FreeBlues. 05.57.24 # Now, you said that you went through the installation instructions, and your ipod still boots to the ipod firmware? 05.57.39 # i see rockbox info, version, and USB(sim) only 05.57.48 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzz") 05.58.04 Nick webguest73 is now known as FreeBlues (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 05.58.13 # right 05.58.25 # hotwire_: Maybe there's not one on the sims? 05.58.40 # i'm currently running the h300 sim 05.58.50 # Freeblues, that can only mean that the bootloader isn't installed properly. 05.58.53 # It's probably a thing with the sims then. =/ 05.59.37 # is there a way to change the background image while running? Maybe replace the Remote portion with a different remote as the option changes? 06.00.20 # Freeblues, what number was your player when you went through the ipodpatcher 0, ipodpatcher 1, etc.? 06.00.51 # you want I should try again? 06.01.36 # That's probably the best bet. 06.02.24 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.02.33 # 5 06.03.21 Quit webguest40 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.03.51 # do I need to uninstall things first? 06.04.22 # Probably not, since you haven't actually installed anything. 06.04.35 # If you extracted a rockbox.zip to your iPod, you can leave that there 06.05.25 # FreeBlues, after you found the 5, you used this command? ipodpatcher -r 5 bootpartition.bin 06.08.56 Quit FreeBlues ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.11.42 Join webguest84 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 06.11.55 Nick webguest84 is now known as FreeBlues (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 06.12.39 # Febs - yes. System responded with the ipodcatcher v0.3 script 06.17.44 Quit FreeBlues ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.18.06 Join webguest84 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 06.18.46 # hotwire_: maybe just add a tiny bitmap of the remote type in that space to the left of the RLCD? 06.18.59 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-149-196.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 06.19.39 # okay... but how do you do that? 06.19.49 Part MadDog011 06.19.52 # hotwire_: also, what would you display where the RLCD goes if the non-LCD remote is chosen? 06.20.02 # maybe use your images, with the keys identified... 06.20.04 # i have no idea abouthow to do that 06.20.08 # neither do i 06.20.23 # however, for the nonlcd remote, the backlight on the remote doesn't come on when it's in use. 06.20.49 # I can generate correctly sized bitmaps, gimme a few minutes 06.21.07 Join perpleXa [0] (n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa) 06.21.09 # why would anything be displayed for the non-LCD remote? 06.21.12 # not so fast yet... need to make sure that's what we need. 06.21.16 # Paul_The_Nerd: i was about to suggest a board like you made...should i start using it, or is it another test? ("Repairing Broken Players") 06.21.38 # I will wait until you tell me to do so. 06.21.45 # as the code currently stands, if the non-lcd remote is in use, the remote lcd is still shown... dunno why 06.21.49 # anybody out there know? 06.21.53 Quit perpleXa (Client Quit) 06.22.37 # Hmm. That's not great. 06.22.47 # it should just go dark. 06.23.02 # (and also for no remote too) 06.23.02 # scorche: It's staying. 06.23.10 Quit webguest84 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.23.37 # it could stay with a green background and just display "No Remote" 06.23.50 Join webguest22 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 06.23.54 # or "Non-LCD Remote" 06.24.04 Nick webguest22 is now known as FreeBlues (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 06.24.10 # true... but again i have no idea where to code such an option in 06.24.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.24.28 # hotwire_: what sim targets are you developing for? 06.24.49 # h100, h300, x5, ... what else has a remote? 06.24.53 # h10 06.25.36 # well at this point all i was doing is getting working what wasn't working... ie the remotes for the h100 and h300... i had by the point i got 'nominated' to work on it, been working on the UISim for the gigabeat port... 06.25.40 # FreeBlues, just sent you a PM on Head-Fi. Reset your player by holding Menu + Select at the same time until the Apple logo comes up. Watch the screen carefully. 06.25.57 # although i also did get hold and remote hold working in the sim... just hasn't been committed yet 06.26.02 # gigabeat has remote? 06.26.07 # Does it go immediately into the Apple firmware or do you get a few lines of text an a message that says -1 loading original firmware? 06.26.23 # it's an option, yes... but i don't have one... 06.26.24 # oh lordy. I'll pay to have the "Re: The just friggin sucks!!! Not rockbox though." thread taken out of its misery! 06.26.40 # most of the code i've been doing, i got 'voluntold' to do 06.26.49 # haha 06.26.58 # I appreciate it 06.27.09 # remote support in the sim would hella cool. 06.27.14 # *would be 06.27.45 # well for those 2 models it may be soon a reality... hopefully by early next week it'll be committed 06.27.49 # hotwire_: look here for some goos sim screendumps 06.27.56 # *good 06.27.58 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5882.msg45608#msg45608 06.28.52 # I could fit bitmaps f the remotes in the little space in the lower right hand corner. (If we can figure out how to stick it there) 06.28.56 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.29.14 # alright, I'm going to bed. 06.29.21 # 'gnight 06.29.27 Quit FreeBlues ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.29.29 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 06.29.34 # what's the necessity of these screendumps? 06.29.58 # in that forum post? Or here? 06.30.13 # ya... why were you sending me there? 06.31.20 # I guess I'm just letting you know that there is varying (yet sufficiant) room for illustrative bitmaps of remotes. 06.31.28 # * Davide-NYC really tired 06.31.46 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 06.33.42 Join daurn|afk [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 06.34.10 # ya, but it's just a UISim thing... not for the real player... 06.34.35 # rasher.dk not responding. Is it just me? 06.36.21 # NVM, just responding very slowly. 06.37.41 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 06.43.03 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-223-59-224.aep.bellsouth.net) 06.48.47 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.50.02 Quit EbErT () 06.51.23 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 06.58.46 Quit Febs () 07.00.56 Quit vcardenas ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.01.35 Nick daurn|afk is now known as daurn|laptop (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 07.01.44 Join vcardenas [0] (n=cda02026@labb.contactor.se) 07.04.31 Join gasdgasdgasdgasd [0] (n=Sinbios@toronto-HSE-ppp4013403.sympatico.ca) 07.04.45 Quit gasdgasdgasdgasd (Remote closed the connection) 07.08.20 Join Cho03 [0] (n=cb36096e@labb.contactor.se) 07.08.34 Join pike^laptop [0] (i=amiga@c83-249-120-24.bredband.comhem.se) 07.12.26 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.12.28 Join Ex_Cho03 [0] (i=Cho03@SJIP-T-001-pool-110.tmns.net.au) 07.12.52 Quit Cho03 (Client Quit) 07.15.01 # hey all 07.15.58 # is anyone talking here? 07.16.09 # just you 07.16.13 # lol 07.16.20 # i was worried there for a sec 07.16.30 # 'tis the in-between time 07.16.35 # ahk 07.16.51 # are you one of the programmers? 07.17.00 # nope 07.17.58 # Ex_Cho03: did you have a problem/question? 07.18.01 # i found out about the mpegplayer the other day 07.18.41 # kinda.. 07.18.51 # then ask/say it =) 07.19.01 # ok man sorry :) 07.19.11 # whats the progress on the mpeg player? 07.20.14 # well. it plays videos. somewhat. 07.20.28 # yeah i found that out yesterday 07.20.35 # it works pretty good 07.20.42 Join pike^lapt [0] (i=amiga@c83-249-120-24.bredband.comhem.se) 07.20.54 # mind clarifying "progress"? =P 07.20.58 # Ex_Cho03: It's not a major focus or anything, so it'll get developed as it gets developed 07.21.03 # RockBox is a music firmware. Love it for that, and consider any video progress a bonus. If you come to RockBox with dreams of portable video in your eyes you will be disapointed. 07.21.09 # There's a changelog on the front page, so you're free to read it to see what's updated. 07.21.15 # ahk cool 07.22.14 # Soap: you ruined my dreams T_T 07.22.24 Quit solarflare (Connection timed out) 07.22.39 # If I want to have decent quality video, I just watch it on my phone, anyway. 07.23.00 # heh...same for me... 07.23.03 # well i was surprised how well the video works 07.23.07 # much better screen as well 07.23.46 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@dxb-b126552.alshamil.net.ae) 07.23.47 # scorche: so you watch video on paul's phone? 07.24.11 # my own phone...dont be such a smart-alec =P 07.24.25 # :) 07.26.04 # rockbox is damn cool. i wanna thank anyone involved 07.27.04 # anyhwo, i must leave, dr. who is on 07.27.40 # again, thanks to everyone involved with rockbox :) 07.27.53 Quit Ex_Cho03 () 07.31.17 Join solarflare [0] (n=supernov@hy-ovpn2-5.vpn.helsinki.fi) 07.32.39 Join daurn|afk [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 07.32.40 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.38.17 Quit pike^laptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.42.20 # Anybody know some good software to setup a redundant storage cluster/distributed data store? 07.47.22 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 07.59.18 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@toronto-HSE-ppp4013352.sympatico.ca) 08.01.32 Quit solarflare ("Leaving") 08.13.17 Part vcardenas 08.17.16 Quit dstrek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.22.41 Join pike^laptop [0] (i=amiga@c83-249-120-24.bredband.comhem.se) 08.24.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.24.32 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 08.38.11 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@dsl-kpogw4-fe52df00-45.dhcp.inet.fi) 08.39.10 Join scott666_ [0] (n=scott666@c-24-245-74-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 08.40.16 Quit pike^lapt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.49.08 Quit daurn|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.49.23 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 08.50.52 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.58.36 Join Bger [0] (n=bager@rockbox/developer/Bger) 09.00.03 Quit sharpe ("Leaving") 09.15.52 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.54.13 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=ubuntu@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 09.58.20 Quit JdGordon_ ("Konversation terminated!") 10.01.07 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.06.28 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.10.21 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.11.57 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 10.15.58 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.21.03 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A44F69.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.24.01 # JdGordon: http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-action_timeout.patch do you think this would be useful? 10.24.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.24.59 # meh, much of a muchness... no harm in it.. tho 10.25.07 # i just used it to make the quickscreen close after 5 seconds 10.25.10 # but youd need to fix the screens expecting ACTION_NOne first 10.29.37 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.34.25 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.57.11 Join Spida [0] (n=timo@spinnennetz.org) 10.59.17 Join A_M [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 11.04.38 Join mkey [0] (n=mkey@pD9E36D67.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.05.00 # Is it somehow possible to compile rockbox to directories outside the main RB source tree? The drive rockbox is installed to is getting kind of full... 11.05.26 # ? that's how you always build rockbox 11.05.48 # just make a dir anywhere and call the configure script from there 11.06.13 # but my build dir is only 25M, is your drive really that full? 11.06.31 # worked just fine when I did that from subfolders within the main rockbox dir, but not when I tried to do it to other drives 11.06.59 # "is your drive really that full?" net yet, but I want to try compiling my Setting Display in Menus patch for all targets... 11.07.37 # i don't really know where other drives end up in cygwin 11.08.39 # huh, nevermind, it worked this time 11.08.50 # must have mistyped something last time I tried *shrugs* 11.09.13 # use the tabkey luke 11.09.18 # :-P 11.09.22 # A_M: does your settings patch still allow you to use the old way to set settings, but view the current setting in the menu? 11.09.36 # yup 11.09.48 # :) 11.09.48 # is it itself a setting? :) 11.09.55 # of course :p 11.10.37 # hehe, yup, there's a whole menu full of settings for settings display, which of course is affected by the settings display settings.... uh, did you get that? 11.12.41 # Hehehe 11.13.14 # * Mikachu fears conflicts with his custom menu layout 11.13.49 # sadly very likely 11.15.25 # is it possible to use the patch tool selectively for only some files? then you could just ignore patching the files that you've changed, and if you like convert them yourself 11.15.47 # i'll just wait until it hits cvs 11.18.53 Quit A_M ("CGI:IRC") 11.20.16 # hey 11.21.49 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 11.25.49 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 11.42.14 Part Paul_The_Nerd 11.43.22 Join JdGordon [0] (n=gentoo@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.48.31 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-228-43.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 11.49.28 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.49.35 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 11.54.32 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-142-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.13.18 # booorrreeed 12.13.34 # ... waiting for gentoo to finish installing sdo i can get back to coding :p 12.13.58 # you using kernel acceleration in qemu ? 12.17.12 # no, im installing gentoo from the live cd, hopefully ill never boot into ubuntu again! 12.17.18 Join keilj [0] (n=jimmykei@203-59-83-31.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.17.30 # gday all 12.17.33 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7B21.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.17.46 # howdy 12.18.52 Join JazzBone [0] (n=chatzill@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 12.19.28 Quit JazzBone (Client Quit) 12.20.30 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCD951.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.22.43 Quit keilj () 12.24.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.27.01 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 12.27.51 Join perpleXa [0] (n=perpleXa@unaffiliated/perplexa) 12.30.32 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@87-194-60-156.bethere.co.uk) 12.31.44 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 12.31.51 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 12.32.01 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-157-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.37.06 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD38E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.37.53 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54877555.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.45.52 Join lorijho [0] (n=lorijho@host-213-189-171-157.brutele.be) 12.47.44 Quit perpleXa ("Leaving") 12.51.50 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 12.54.08 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 12.56.24 # is the games with rockboy playable on ipods? :o 12.56.29 # yes 12.56.59 # not some ipods 12.57.01 # is it fast or slow? 12.57.04 # how about on a photo 12.57.13 # i think that one works 12.57.28 # it worked a BIT SLOW when i tried it last time 12.57.38 # about... 4 months ago, i don't remember :) 12.57.42 # let's try again 12.58.21 # it depends a lot on the game too i suspect 12.58.46 # what games do work fast then? 12.59.01 # earthworm gyme 12.59.06 # :p 12.59.11 # i don't know, i have an ipod nano where rockboy doesn't work, and a gba :) 12.59.15 # i have only pokemon yellow here atm 12.59.19 # whats a gyme? 12.59.20 # :P 12.59.25 # i have a gba too, and a color and a pocket ;) 12.59.30 # OHHHHH a GYME 12.59.50 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 13.01.23 # the buttons suck :o 13.01.36 # it is hard to map a d-pad and 2 buttons to.. 4 buttons 13.01.41 # sorry, 5! 13.01.42 # yep 13.01.54 # but it would be easier to play if you have a a button :p 13.02.05 Quit PaulJam (".") 13.02.12 # oh i have one 13.02.19 # or not 13.03.42 Part mkey (""Welcome to IRC; Where men are men, women are men and little girls are FBI agents!"") 13.03.45 # this line is part of a #define. I want the W0 to be replaced, but it seems it's protected by the " quotes . "mac.l #W0, %[e], %acc0 \n" 13.03.50 # it's possible to one day to what iboy does, but nobody seems to want to touch the ipod button code 13.04.24 # W0 is redefined by a constant 13.05.02 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 13.06.29 # pokemon is almost playable if play is for a and down and menu is for b and up... 13.06.39 Quit Kitar|st (Connection timed out) 13.06.41 # but if the menu would appear from the hold switch, then it would work great 13.06.49 Join Kitar|st [0] (i=Kitarist@BSN-77-16-84.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 13.07.29 # mirak - does it work if you take the W0 out of the quotes i.e. #define blah "mac.l #"#WO", %[e], %acc0 \n" 13.07.35 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081CCA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.08.07 # stripwax: I will try that, it didn't believed much in this solution 13.08.09 # I try :) 13.08.29 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01v-89-83-174-133.d4.club-internet.fr) 13.08.32 # damn, the H100 remote is now really fucked up 13.12.42 Join amiconn [0] (i=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.17.54 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 13.21.53 # stripwax: doesn't work 13.22.02 # though the line is well formed 13.22.18 # mirak - hm, what does it output? 13.22.23 # but the value isn't interpreted 13.22.33 # Error: operands mismatch -- statement `mac.l W6,%d6,%acc0' ignored 13.22.48 # the W6 should be something like #456 13.23.43 # stripwax: I will post the whole file 13.23.44 # mirak - can you show me the actual code? do you have something like #define W6 456 13.23.46 # thanks 13.25.02 # http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21199 stripwax 13.26.25 # stripwax: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UcjLMm30.html 13.26.26 # with color 13.26.29 # colors 13.28.54 # mirak ok so you need the # inside the quotes as well right? 13.29.14 # I got an error when doing that 13.29.15 # like I posted - "mac.l #" #W0 ", %[e], %acc0 \n" 13.29.20 # hrm, what was the error 13.29.24 # idct.c:133: error: syntax error before numeric constant 13.29.40 # with both # ? 13.29.43 # yes 13.30.02 # oh 13.30.19 # Did you check the intermediate asm file? 13.30.31 # the second one turns your 456 into "456". The first one turns the 456 into #456 which is what you need syntactically 13.30.54 # When I tried using symbolic constants in an asm() block, I needed 2 intermediate macros to make it work 13.31.25 # this time the value isn't processed/tmp/cciyiYoc.s:101: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `mac.l #W6,%d6,%acc0' ignored 13.31.58 # amiconn: I did a gcc -E to see what happens, but I don't know how to check the error after a make 13.32.14 # Compile with -save-temps 13.32.31 # Then you'll get an .i and an .s file for every processed source file 13.32.33 # where should I put this line ? 13.32.41 # this arg 13.32.53 # The .i is th epreprocessed .c, and the .s is the compiled .i 13.33.25 # ok but where must I put the -save-temp arg ? 13.33.27 # I usually put it in the appropriate Makefile as part of the CFLAGS 13.33.43 # ok 13.33.50 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.34.16 # Just make sure that you don't leave it there when the compilation works - or you'll get tons of these intermeadiate files to clean up 13.34.34 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48) 13.34.42 # amiconn - do have an example of the intermediate macros you needed to get this to work inside asm() ? 13.35.11 # #define XSC(X) #X 13.35.11 # #define SC(X) XSC(X) 13.35.19 # Then you can use it like this: 13.35.40 # "mac.l #" SC(W0) ", %[e], %acc0 \n" 13.36.01 # (SC is for "symbolic constant") 13.36.41 Join A_M [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 13.36.46 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 13.36.49 # hrm - I feel that that should just work inline with #(W0) - is it just some weird GCC behaviour that requires the intermediates? 13.37.06 # The # is only evaluated _within_ macros 13.37.45 # amiconn - right, and mirak's code is a #define that defines the asm() block.. 13.38.05 # ah, hmm, that makes things even more difficult 13.38.17 # amiconn - check out mirak's link.. 13.38.31 # I feel it should just work, since it's all in one #define anyway 13.38.41 # * amiconn prefers inline functions over macros defining code 13.38.41 # maybe use static inline instead? 13.39.49 # amiconn: I though about using it but that's more data moving 13.40.18 # iiuc it should produce the exact same code, but i haven't tried with asm 13.41.08 # amiconn: I added the line to export GCCOPTS 13.41.17 # but it doesn't seem to work 13.42.43 # a thing that can replace inside quotes would help 13.43.16 # i don't know if you can have a macro that applies to the inside of another macro? 13.43.25 # * amiconn remembers why it needs 2 intermediate macros 13.43.38 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.43.55 # The #makes it a plain literal, i.e. #W6 means just 'W6' without interpreting it 13.44.13 # * stripwax slaps forehead 13.44.23 # If your code is in a macro itself, one extra intermediate should be sufficient 13.44.25 # #define A 5 13.44.32 # asm("A"); 13.44.40 # can't you use ### or something? 13.44.45 # if A could be replaced by 5 it would do it 13.44.49 # * Mikachu only barely knows how cpp works 13.45.05 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD38E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.45.16 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_preprocessor#Quoting_the_Macro_Arguments 13.45.34 # mirak: #define A "5" \n asm(A); ? 13.52.14 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.55.26 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 14.02.49 # that's odd ... 14.03.24 Join Caliban_ [0] (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 14.03.56 # what is 14.04.00 # Mikachu: that would work 14.04.19 # "mac.l #"2408", %[e], %acc0 \n" 14.04.24 # I manage to have this 14.04.44 # in fact I would need to have the 2408 as "2408" so it would be part of the asm string 14.04.57 # mirak: yes 14.05.12 # "mac.l #"W0", %[e], %acc0 \n" \ 14.05.23 # if you #define hello "200" and have "asm commands" hello "more asm", it should work 14.05.31 # yes 14.05.55 # so I should use separate MACROS for the const inside asm or inside C code 14.06.05 # otherwise I don't see how to use an intermediate 14.06.08 # marco 14.06.24 # maybe you can #define asmconst(x) #x 14.06.28 # #define hello 500 14.06.39 # "asm code" asmconst(hello) "more asm" 14.06.42 # mirak - or.. do what amiconn suggested, with an intermediate #define SC( x ) #x 14.06.43 # but i,m not sure if that would work 14.07.05 # can't I do a #define SC(x) "x" 14.07.11 # hem no ... 14.07.28 # then you would just get "x" in your code :) 14.07.30 # mirak that's exactly what the # does above 14.07.40 # oh ok 14.07.51 # did you try amiconn's suggestion yet?? 14.07.56 # Mikachu: yes, that gives the same issue 14.08.05 # stripwax: I am going to 14.08.15 # the problem is the asm code is also in a #define 14.08.27 # but it might just work 14.08.35 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB137CB.ipt.aol.com) 14.09.01 # that's it 14.09.15 # the proprocessor put the quotes and the number 14.09.23 # heh, pro processor :) 14.10.13 # Error: operands mismatch -- statement `mac.l #1108,%d6,%acc0' ignored 14.10.31 # at least it's well formed, now I guess the instruction is not right 14.11.53 # ok seems you can't use a constant 14.12.04 # :-/ 14.12.08 # heh 14.12.11 # Bg3r, you around? 14.12.29 # I will go for the inline function then ... 14.19.03 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.19.14 Join pepie34 [0] (n=romain@ANantes-256-1-27-49.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.19.24 Quit Caliban (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.19.29 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.22.06 # does anyone know if it's possible to find out which exact files fails when trying to create the tag cache DB? maybe an error log or something? 14.23.25 # damn it would be almost simplier to rewrite all as asm instead of just some parts 14.24.05 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 14.24.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.25.05 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.27.31 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-86-157.dslaccess.co.uk) 14.29.03 # amiconn: hey, I didn't managed to view intermediate files in asm 14.29.54 # * amiconn just found that his remote transfer idea really pays off :) 14.30.03 # +35% in fps on h140 14.31.10 # for mpeg ? 14.31.26 # my optimisation doesn't work 14.31.32 # it garbage the image 14.31.35 # No 14.31.38 # lol 14.31.46 # I'm working on the asm transfer routines for the remote lcd 14.32.10 # widescreen if you put the remote next to the screen 14.32.11 # Iriver first, as I had an idea how to speed things up even more. 14.32.32 # Then I'll port the thing to the X5 14.32.45 Quit JazzBone (Remote closed the connection) 14.32.49 Join Farpenoodle [0] (n=solo84@60.49.99.38) 14.33.04 # hem I really need to see the produced asm code 14.33.30 # I tried to add -save-temp in GCCOPTS 14.33.46 # It's -save-temps not -save-temp 14.33.47 # ho my bad they are here 14.33.53 # eclipse doen't shows them 14.33.53 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 14.33.58 # if you give a wrong option it won't compile at all 14.34.09 # (which is annoying if you have many gcc versions) 14.34.33 Join Febs_home [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.37.32 Quit Siku () 14.37.37 Quit Febs () 14.37.50 Nick Febs_home is now known as Febs (n=chatzill@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.42.36 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-68-252-4-207.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 14.43.36 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496720D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.44.56 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.49.21 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.50.02 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust291.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 14.50.16 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 14.50.53 Part stripwax 14.51.03 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 14.53.47 Join chendo__ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-64-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.54.10 # what is H10? 14.54.13 Quit mirak (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.55.16 # barrywardell: any news regarding your h10? or did I miss the "it's back" message? 14.55.40 # Arathis: no, it's not back yet 14.55.47 # :( 14.55.54 # but my brother has one too so i borrowed it for a couple of hours 14.56.05 # :D 14.57.00 # I had it long enough to get the lcd working 14.57.25 Quit chendo_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.57.35 Join JdGordon [0] (i=JdGordon@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.57.59 # but having your own one would be better at all. 14.58.19 # firenx: an mp3 player 14.58.32 # yes. I had to give my brother his h10 back already 14.59.10 # he should get a new one and you hold his one *g* 15.01.17 # he uses his a lot. I was lucky to even borrow it for a couple of hours 15.02.40 # how "minimal" is the driver btw? 15.03.46 # barrywardell: Is H10 16bit RGB565 ? 15.04.29 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 15.04.53 # Arathis: well it works. the only thing implemented is writing to the screen 15.05.12 # no power on/off or anything like that 15.05.23 # amiconn: yes, it seems to be 15.07.37 # amiconn: I just wrote straight from the framebuffer to the lcd's gram 15.07.37 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.08.07 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 15.09.55 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-5-74.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.13.23 Quit JazzBone (Remote closed the connection) 15.13.27 # JdGordon: does the H1xx remote really work on your player in filebrowser with latest CVS? 15.13.57 # no. im making it up :p 15.14.05 # im surprised they dont work for anyone else.. 15.14.11 # That doesn't make sense though right? 15.14.20 # im bored.. so ill grab cvs again and check.. 2min 15.14.56 # The code looks wrong to me too so I'm surprised it works for yours! 15.16.11 Quit A_M ("CGI:IRC") 15.16.45 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 15.17.03 # just installed cvs aain and it works fine 15.17.20 # it might be that im using the hidden setting for the list? 15.17.52 # what is the 'hidden' setting? where is it hidden? 15.17.55 # the one where on+right is scroll.. not hold right 15.18.06 # ahhh..yes..that is it I think! 15.18.15 # combi code looks ok! 15.19.04 # is the setting hidden on purpose or on lazy? 15.19.41 # bit of both. i origionally thought the devs didnt want that sort of option readily availbable.. 15.19.53 # bloody hell theat iriver keymap file is horrible :p 15.20.12 # It's ok once you've stared at it for a few hours! :D 15.20.30 # JdGordon: I've fixed the problem 15.20.52 # TREE_OFF doesn't work correctly in the browser on iriver 15.20.53 # :) 15.21.04 # It stops playback _and_ goes up a level 15.21.07 # if yours is broken too i'll commit 15.21.43 # amiconn: ah so it does :p.. never realsed before.. 15.22.04 # amiconn: do u have any objections to stoping it automatially checking the standrad keys before giving up? 15.22.26 # I think that's okay 15.22.47 # If a context wants the standard to be checked, it can be chained explicitly 15.22.54 # that shold fix the tree off problem.. and make contexts sligty easier to setup 15.23.18 # * JdGordon is waiting for gentoo to get setup so he can get bck into coding 15.23.26 # It will probably break a few things though, needs testing on all targets 15.23.27 # you're in for a long wait then :) 15.23.41 # ... no, i just remembered.. i have th vmware imae on this comp 15.23.53 # JdGordon: could you just switch combi off on yours and make sure the filebrowser is messed up on yours too? 15.24.15 # i would get it is... 15.24.46 # I would too, but when some people said it worked and some said it didn't I got scared! :D 15.24.53 # noooo.... my damn sister is home.. i have to get off this comp :'( 15.25.19 # gimme 2 min s i can change comps 15.25.26 # by 2 i mean 10 15.25.41 Quit JdGordon () 15.30.37 Join JDGordon [0] (n=dced3920@labb.contactor.se) 15.30.55 # back.. 15.32.25 # hehe reset settings and the remote is useles :p 15.33.25 # hoorah!!! 15.33.34 # I just knew it :D 15.33.38 # :p 15.34.10 # * JDGordon apologises for all the pain... and blames Bg3r... 15.35.24 # Ok, it should work now...and the TREE_OFF too.. 15.36.19 # somone pointed a paper to a an idct implementation for assembly 15.36.24 # anyone remember that ? 15.38.19 Join dwihno_ [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 15.38.20 Quit Zidanax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.39.05 # * JDGordon going to bed.. cyaz 15.39.07 Quit JDGordon ("CGI:IRC") 15.40.59 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.41.04 Join Bger_cgiirc [0] (n=55821167@labb.contactor.se) 15.41.10 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496720D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.42.02 # grrr 15.43.07 # does anyone know why JdGordon called for me ? 15.43.26 # cos the remote buttons were borked I think 15.43.49 # h100 ? 15.43.59 # yeah...should be ok now though 15.44.56 # i don't have h100 remote so it's very probable that i've messed something 15.45.11 # ahh..that explains it :D 15.45.20 # mirak: http://www.quicklogic.com/images/Optimizing_Embedded_Systems_WP.pdf ? 15.45.55 # Mmmm: sorry for that ... 15.46.02 # No probs ;) 15.46.25 # it would be good if we think about key combos for the non-lcd one ... 15.46.39 # like for going from WPS to the tree etc .. 15.46.57 # Heh Heh...you know what happens when you try key combos without owning the remote! :D 15.47.04 # midkay: thanks ! :D 15.47.09 # :( 15.47.49 # Mmmm: i have such one, but it's very poor on button count - Play/Pause, vol+, vol-, ff, rew, hold... 15.48.00 # Bger_cgiirc: is there any point in going from WPS to tree without an LCD? 15.48.29 # it seems that some people are using it while driving ... 15.50.04 Quit Arathis (Remote closed the connection) 15.50.51 # It's even one button less than the archos remote - and we don't support switching broswer <-> wps with that 15.50.58 # Mikachu: this paper is based on libmpeg2 by the way. it can't be better 15.51.07 # Mmmm: why did you remove the h300 specific yes/no table ? 15.51.19 # it's the same as the h100 15.51.21 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7B21.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.51.24 Join Voting [0] (i=Voting91@102.sub-70-221-133.myvzw.com) 15.51.25 # no, it isn't 15.51.26 # i tried to mimic the main buttons to the remote 15.51.35 # const struct button_mapping button_context_yesno[] = { 15.51.37 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.40 # mirak: heh, i just grepped for .pdf in my log and this one looked right 15.51.41 # navi = yes 15.52.07 # you had play = yes on the h100 15.52.07 # Hi, folks. Call me dumb but I just found out that flac exists and thought... well, could I play it on my archos? 15.52.17 # ah, yes 15.52.23 # :P 15.52.30 Quit barrywardell () 15.52.32 # Mikachu: I am not sure it's this one I was thinking of, but that's fine anyway. 15.52.34 # And google said I could use flac! 15.52.48 # Have any of you been ripping and listening to flac audio 15.52.48 # ? 15.53.23 # Mmmm: what about this one const struct button_mapping button_context_listtree_scroll_wo_cmb_h300lcdremote[] 15.53.48 # You were using the main unit button defines (BUTTON_LEFT etc.) 15.54.01 # BUTTON_LEFT = BUTTON_RC_REW 15.54.08 # haha 15.54.11 # my mistake 15.54.16 # but it should be there 15.54.29 # I thought I was going mad when I saw that! :D 15.54.45 # more probably i've fall asleep on the keyboard :D 15.54.51 # :D 15.55.31 Quit amiconn (" bbl") 15.56.40 Quit Bger (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.42 # Mmmm: and what's the reason for the different button_context_tree_h100remote and button_context_tree_h300lcdremote 15.58.00 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@dsl-kpogw4-fe52df00-45.dhcp.inet.fi) 15.58.12 # Am I asking this question in the wrong channel? Would someone PM me about FLAC then? 15.58.25 # no ATION_TREE_STOP for the H100! 15.58.29 # i think archos is hwcodec, therefore it won't support flac 15.58.56 # ah, k 15.59.03 # can you play ogg files? 16.17.38 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@110.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 16.18.12 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 16.19.07 Quit JazzBone (Remote closed the connection) 16.22.09 Quit [HO]vo|t ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 16.22.52 Join [HO]vo|t [0] (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 16.24.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.26.21 # I'm trying to run the rockboxdev.sh script and I keep receiving this error: "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH" Can anyone tell me what I might be missing? 16.31.34 Quit damaki_ (Success) 16.32.05 # Febs: a compiler for your target 16.32.14 # (in path) 16.32.50 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 16.33.38 # or maybe you didn't install gcc at all. That is needed to be able to compile the cross-compilers 16.34.44 # Febs, what linux distro are you using? 16.34.48 # ubuntu 16.35.07 # ah. Try to run 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' 16.35.35 # build-essential I mean 16.35.55 Quit Bger_cgiirc ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.36.08 Quit Voting () 16.36.51 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 16.37.40 # Hiya 16.37.46 # Anyone around? 16.38.01 # no 16.38.02 # mmm 16.38.03 # go away 16.38.04 # :P 16.38.25 # Febs, what do you think of using something like this instead of the bitmaps currently used for the key-reference image. http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/h140_concept.pdf 16.38.25 # ha, nice reception 16.38.42 # Was wondering, is anyone working on rockboy ATM? 16.39.04 # tucoz, thanks. I knew I was missing something obvious. 16.39.10 Join ashtophet [0] (n=kvirc@15.Red-83-43-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) 16.40.08 # I've been seeing talk here and there about video now, is it posible on the H3xx these days? 16.40.25 # Possible, and "working" 16.40.49 # Yeah? Awesome, what kind of 'working' state is it in? 16.41.27 # tucoz: It gets the point across. Is the intent to make the size of the .pdf manual smaller? 16.41.40 # plays MPEG2 video streams, no audio, and at sub-par framerates, and w/o framerate limiting, so if you encoded to 5fps or 25fps, it would play the same speed. 16.42.03 # Febs, well. In a way yes. But also have a format that is easier to change in the future 16.43.44 # damn 16.44.24 # I'd rather see rockboy get optimised before video playback though 16.44.40 # *sigh* If only i could code asembly 16.44.55 # does anyone know if it's possible to find out which exact files fails when trying to create the tag cache DB? maybe an error log or something? 16.46.20 # maybe slasheri added suppport for that using logfd 16.46.22 # logf 16.47.26 Part DJ_Dooms_Day 16.51.56 Part [HO]vo|t 16.52.00 Join [HO]vo|t [0] (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 16.52.55 Join Cho03 [0] (i=Cho03@CWPP-p-203-54-186-44.prem.tmns.net.au) 16.53.28 Part scott666_ 16.54.42 # hi guys. my ipod nano isnt working properly. can i get some help please? 16.55.26 Quit ashtophet (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.57.10 # any assistance please? 16.57.35 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh4814@dxb-as59277.alshamil.net.ae) 16.58.20 # tucoz: how do i turn on logf? 17.00.00 # if it helps, my troubles are rockbox related 17.02.43 # Cho03, we can't help unless you tell us what problem you're having. 17.02.59 # sorry i was waiting for someone to respond 17.03.10 # heres my problem 17.03.16 Join Bger [0] (n=bager@85.187.218.57) 17.04.26 # i was resetting my nano to refresh the tag cache in rock box. the apple logo appears and it displays "use itunes to restore" 17.04.50 # i try to reset again, but that screen displays again 17.05.03 # Do you have iTunes installed on your computer? 17.05.07 # yup 17.05.08 Join ashtophet [0] (n=kvirc@15.Red-83-43-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) 17.05.20 Part ashtophet 17.05.27 # So let the itunes restorer do its thing. 17.05.57 # well when i plug the ipod in, nothing recognizes it 17.08.22 # including itunes? 17.08.40 # yes 17.08.55 Join AM [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 17.09.36 # yes itunes fails to recognize, or yes itunes DOES recognize? 17.09.39 Join webguest69 [0] (n=539d3e20@labb.contactor.se) 17.09.56 # itunes fails to recognise sorry 17.10.24 # you running apple 1.1 or apple firmware 1.2? 17.10.29 # 1.2 17.11.12 # let me check the forums, there have be some rumbles about 1.2. If it came to it, would you know how to downgrade? 17.11.32 # like with the ipod updater? 17.12.03 # Go ahead and run the apple restore utility. 17.12.37 # the ipod video have a hardware mpeg decoder ? 17.13.04 # The issues seem related to playing music in Apple FW 1.2 after installing rockbox. If that is a situation which would concern you...you can go to the ipodwizard site and read about how to downgrade your firmware back to 1.1 (assuming you don't use the Nike shoe sensor) 17.13.21 # mirak - has the Broadcom chip which is a magic black box. 17.13.24 # Do we have Rincewind in here? 17.13.45 # soap: ill have a lookk 17.13.58 # Soap: lol 17.14.10 # Soap: that's odd 17.14.19 # ? 17.14.52 # anyone tried to reverse engineer apple firmware for this ? 17.15.10 # sorry Cho03 - the issue is between 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 / not between 1.1 and 1.2 17.15.47 # ok 17.16.24 # well my current firmware is compatible with the nike shoes 17.16.30 # as in everytime I said 1.1 I should have said 1.1.1, and every time I said 1.2 I should have said 1.1.2 17.16.36 # yea 17.16.38 # ok 17.16.56 # i get you 17.17.11 # i thought the bleeding edge builds are the latest CVS build, right? the last CVS build was at 13:35, my bleeding edge that i just installed says 11:21 17.17.14 # o_O 17.18.04 # mirak: Some people in IPL may be looking at the Broadcom chip, but I don't think anyone involved with Rockbox is. 17.19.00 # one more reason to not buy an ipod ... 17.21.11 # * mirak will maybe give a second though 17.22.22 # So the fact the ipod has an /extra/ chip RockBox doesn't support is a reason not to buy an ipod? 17.23.11 # An extra chip which is worthless as far as RockBox's core mission is concerned. 17.23.13 # it's like for linux, I will buy the best supported hardware. 17.23.59 # So you would buy the motherboard with 9/9 supported features over the one with 9/10 supported features? 17.25.59 # I would buy the motherboard with 10/10 supported features 17.26.06 # soap: after reading some forums, i am going to try the hp formatter tool to hopefully reformat my ipod and then ill try the ipod updater 17.26.47 # mirak - 10/10 would be a DAP with a supported dedicated video chip. Such a thing doesn't exist. Straw man. 17.28.31 # supported or documented ? 17.29.07 # take your pick 17.31.49 # that's the difference 17.32.07 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 17.32.16 # anyway as far as I heard ipod video have too limitated play time 17.32.36 # probably with reeconded video that's better 17.33.22 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-228-43.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 17.33.42 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 17.33.55 # anyone here can review a few assembly coldfire lines ? 17.33.57 Join pi [0] (n=pi@80-41-218-65.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.35.40 # I get only around 10 hours, about 70% of what I got on Apple firmware, but it will only get better, and still about as good as a H340. 17.35.57 # http://rafb.net/paste/results/VAuNPb81.html that's the BUTTERFLY macro. the result is corrupted. I am not sure where the error could be 17.36.27 # Soap: in fact I was refering to video playback time 17.36.45 # I was desapointed to learn it was less than 2 hours 17.37.14 # what do you expect out of a device that small with backlight and HD on almost constantly? 17.37.33 # The dedicated video players do better because they have 2-3 times the battery size. 17.37.53 # video is a perk, not a prime feature. 17.38.20 # with 64 mb of ram that's caching enough to not of the hard drive on to much 17.38.30 # have/of 17.39.00 # the ipod video is called ipod *video* 17.39.17 # officially it is called an ipod with video. 17.39.24 # snap 17.39.33 # over the H300 I own, one device would need good video support to make want to change 17.40.08 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 17.40.22 # not that I will use it a lot for that, but since this costs money ... 17.43.47 Join San [0] (n=San@213.202.191.85) 17.43.48 Quit [San] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.44.50 # can anyone advise me on a target tree related question? 17.44.52 # soap & febs: thanks for your help. i cant fix the problem at the moment. im going to wait til school tomorrow so i can download some software which may help. 17.45.10 # specifically, system.c around line 1150 17.45.33 # barrywardell: Congratulations on the LCD driver - I wasn't expecting that commit, especially when you don't have your H10 at the moment :) 17.45.58 # thanks linuxstb. I borrowed my brother's H10 to test it 17.46.12 # and had ipod/x5 code to base it off 17.46.58 # now I want to implement irq() for the H10. should it go in the target tree or in system.c with another #ifdef 17.48.51 Join dwihno__ [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 17.48.51 Quit Cho03 () 17.49.07 Quit darkless (Remote closed the connection) 17.49.37 # The Office Depot in Lima, Ohio had a H10 20 gig on clearance for 130 dollars. I should have snagged it. 17.49.42 Join infamis [0] (n=4b037fcc@labb.contactor.se) 17.52.32 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust291.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 17.53.53 Quit dwihno_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.58.25 Join dwihno_ [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 18.01.08 Nick daurn|laptop is now known as daurn|afk (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 18.01.15 Quit Hadaka (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.01.15 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.03.40 Quit Rob2222 () 18.04.07 Join dwihno___ [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 18.04.07 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.04.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 18.04.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno__ 18.04.07 *** Alert Mode level 2 18.04.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno_ 18.04.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno___ 18.04.07 *** Alert Mode level 3 18.05.36 # i love rockbox. thank you 18.06.10 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.06.16 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 18.06.27 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB137CB.ipt.aol.com) 18.06.33 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 18.09.32 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 18.09.32 *** Alert Mode level 4 18.09.32 *** Alert Mode level 5 18.09.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 18.09.32 *** Alert Mode level 6 18.09.32 *** Alert Mode level 7 18.09.32 *** Alert Mode level 8 18.12.12 Quit dwihno_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.14.08 Quit dwihno___ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.15.19 Quit dwihno__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.16.40 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 18.17.16 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-095-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.19.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.22.41 Quit _Lucretia (Connection timed out) 18.23.12 # bsod with tagcache autoupdate enabled iaudio x5, when hitting 'next track' 18.23.33 # tagcache autoupdate disabled, haven't encountered yet 18.23.41 Join _Lucretia [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-79-236.dslaccess.co.uk) 18.24.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.25.41 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.29.56 Quit Caliban_ ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 18.32.43 Nick _Lucretia is now known as _Lucretia_ (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-79-236.dslaccess.co.uk) 18.33.45 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 18.33.46 Quit daurn|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.35.32 Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) 18.35.32 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.35.39 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 18.36.04 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 18.40.58 # I have adapted the recording screen to the new button action code, I just need some testers. 18.41.17 # It appears to be fine on the sim, but it is difficult testing recording on the sim 18.41.28 # Here's the patch: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/Rockbox/recordingscreenbuttacc.patch 18.41.49 # need testers for Ondio, Recorder, and X5 18.42.15 # anyone want to give it a go? Just look to see whether the keys do what they did before! 18.42.29 # in the recording screen that is! :) 18.43.42 # we got recording working on the x5???!!? 18.43.55 # damn my x5 has been rma'd too long 18.45.53 NHeal (timeout) kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.49.41 Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.49.51 # <[HO]vo|t> Mmmm: I'd be happy to test, but i'm running a battery longelivity test that will run about 3 more hours. Could you stress anything that you want me to test specifically or just recording as a whole? 18.50.34 # It's just the recording buttons, So really we just need to make sure that they behave exactly as they did before 18.51.35 Quit qwm ("Lost terminal") 18.51.36 # <[HO]vo|t> I see. I just got my x5, so I will test recording thoroughly before applying the patch, then again afterwards, and report back to you. 18.51.53 # thanks, that'd be great :) 18.52.12 # <[HO]vo|t> happy to help 18.56.06 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.56.12 Quit webguest69 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.57.09 # hum I suspect I have problem with idct in asm because of unsigned problem 18.57.29 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.57.31 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.57.42 Nick Febs_ is now known as Febs (n=chatzill@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.58.43 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 18.58.53 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-95-237.dslaccess.co.uk) 19.05.39 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 19.06.56 # this works ! 19.07.17 # but not when use the mac :-~ 19.07.52 # Is it giving much of a speed improvement? 19.08.16 # no 19.08.28 # but I just changed BUTTERFLY 19.09.01 # Can you notice any difference at all? 19.11.08 # no that's even slower 19.11.31 # but I did one with only mulu add 19.11.47 # when I use the mac the result is garbeled 19.12.08 # I don't know why 19.12.39 # I think that just optimising butterfly is not good, because gcc needs to stack some datas for just two lines of C code 19.13.11 # but now I know enough to attack the row_idct 19.13.38 # though it would be better to have mac working properly. 19.14.36 # linuxstb: maybe you can give a look to the code. I maybe miss something for MAC. There is just 8 lines 19.15.30 # http://rafb.net/paste/results/qmZTKg93.html 19.15.59 # the mac is really interesting for matrix computing 19.16.29 # linuxstb, what do you think? I started making vector versions of the players. http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/ipodcolor_concept.pdf 19.17.58 # did you look at what gcc produced for the C version? just in case it has some tricks 19.19.54 # Mikachu: starangely I can't spot where the assembly code is in the C version 19.20.15 # heh 19.20.19 # I expected to find the constants when they are used, but I don't see them 19.20.25 # mirak: Sorry, I'm no help at all with Coldfire assembly... 19.20.33 # I see the in the asm version though 19.20.43 # them 19.21.12 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.21.28 # tucoz: what is it for ? :) 19.21.52 # midkay, for the manual. As a reference for the keys. 19.21.54 # tucoz: That looks good to me... The symbols on the wheel should be solid though. 19.22.03 # Ok 19.22.13 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 19.22.23 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.22.35 # And there's a hold switch on the top edge. Do you have a reference for that? 19.23.52 # That was only a draft. But I'll make them more complete later on. 19.24.02 # Oh, and there's no dot in the centre of the select button. 19.24.16 # it is on the scan 19.24.47 # Maybe some ipods have it then - I'm looking at my ipod Color now, and there's no dot. 19.25.00 # Or it could have just been some dirt... 19.25.17 # I am not sure if we mention the hold switch in the manual, but I will add it anyway. 19.25.46 # The hold switch is used when clearing the settings on the ipods right? 19.25.54 # It's pretty obvious what the hold switch is - it has "hold" written next to it. 19.26.09 # tucoz: Until we can implement a better way, yes. 19.26.12 # hmm, didn't see that on the scan 19.26.27 # I mean, it should be obvious to users... 19.26.39 # :) 19.26.42 # probably 19.27.21 # So did you just trace a scan? 19.27.53 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.28.56 # I just trace the scan manually, with a few simple shapes 19.29.48 # Imo, very simple images look nice. But I am not sure what others think. 19.31.31 # linuxstb: only to english speakers, but then the manual is only in english 19.31.54 # Mikachu: Apple don't translate their hardware? 19.32.25 # no 19.33.43 # it has some danish text on the backside with the name of the company i won it from 19.45.58 # yes ! 19.46.39 # it works now with the MAC. i needed to set overflow limitation and put signed mode 19.47.02 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 19.50.22 Quit Mmmm (Remote closed the connection) 19.51.32 # linuxstb: http://www.quicklogic.com/images/Optimizing_Embedded_Systems_WP.pdf do you know this paper ? 19.52.07 # he's the one who posted the url 19.53.47 # so that's answers my question :) 19.54.27 # Ipod nano svg draft: http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/ipno.ink.svg (wait a bit for hold button) 19.54.41 # is rockbox shutting down on low battery ? 19.54.56 # only on very low :) 19.55.44 # freqmod: that doesn't look like a nano 19.56.19 # ok a little too short 20.02.46 Join webguest81 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 20.02.58 # freqmod: You could also get rid of the diagonal line and shadow.. 20.03.04 Join dwihno_ [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 20.03.09 # \nick FreeBlues 20.05.02 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 20.06.42 # freqmod, looks great :) Reveals who is the artist in here 20.07.21 # Updated the svg file and uploaded http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/IMG_2013.JPG , and don't tell me that one under my finger doesn't look like a nano 20.08.17 Quit webguest81 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.08.22 # maybe the light half of the black one would be better? 20.08.55 # otherwise good :) 20.09.11 # Does the Nano say "Hold" on it? My photo says "HOLD" - i.e. capitalised. 20.09.15 # what do you mean by "the light half of the black one 20.09.18 # yeah, caps 20.09.23 # yes right 20.09.30 # freqmod: the version below without a shadow has the color of the shadowed half 20.09.49 # make a lighter black? 20.10.17 # i think the wheel is a bit dark anyway 20.10.22 # I only need one of them. Preferably the white one. 20.11.29 Join webguest03 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 20.11.44 Ctcp Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 5 minutes and 25 seconds at the last flood 20.11.44 # * freqmod has updated the svg file 20.12.21 # * tucoz has downloaded the updated one 20.12.41 # barrywardell: congrats on the h10 lcd progress! 20.12.44 # * freqmod will make a white one 20.13.05 # freqmod, looks great. If you want, do you want to make similar ones for the other ipods? I can provide you with scans 20.13.24 # or other targets in general. I suck at inkskape 20.13.30 # i have a video 20.13.54 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.14.02 # that would be great 20.14.03 # http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/ipno.white.ink.svg 20.14.42 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A691E.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.14.47 # * freqmod makes a white video svg 20.14.58 # cool :) 20.16.31 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.16.43 # thanks Bagder, there wasn't that much to be done in the end 20.17.02 Join webguest35 [0] (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 20.17.02 # so it is similar to the nano, or how is it? 20.17.18 # it is exactly as MrH said 20.17.23 # nice 20.17.33 # it is similar to the nano 20.17.41 # but with commands the same as the X5 20.17.51 # aha 20.18.21 # so making the driver ended up being quite easy 20.18.27 # lovely 20.18.31 # and good work! 20.18.55 # did you see my question earlier about system.c? 20.19.02 # no 20.19.21 # * Bagder checks log 20.20.06 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.20.09 # you mean if you should do an #ifdef or do something in the target/ tree? 20.20.26 # yes, which would be preferred? 20.20.33 # I'd say target/ 20.21.04 # when I tried that, it gave link errors about not being able to find irq 20.21.30 # crt0.S:(.text+0x30): undefined reference to `irq' 20.22.06 # \nick FreeBlues 20.22.13 # webguest35: forward slash 20.22.36 # barrywardell: uhm, and you built and linked the file with your new irq() in ? 20.22.40 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 20.22.52 # * freqmod updates his white nano svg to include a ear plug 20.22.52 # I added it to SOURCES 20.23.08 Nick webguest35 is now known as FreeBlues (n=45fe90a6@labb.contactor.se) 20.23.13 # freqmod: and dock connector? 20.23.14 # I tried making an irq_device() in target 20.23.41 # gotta go, bbl 20.23.42 # freqmod: also, the phones connector is at the bottom 20.23.51 # bottom right, dock is to the left 20.23.52 # yes it is 20.23.52 # k. bye Bagder 20.24.00 # my ipod nano is dissasembled 20.24.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.25.14 # anyone know if there are problems with the bootloader-video.bin file? 20.25.40 # FreeBlues - like what? 20.25.41 # I'm assuming that is a roundabout way of saying your bootloader install failed? 20.26.14 # * freqmod is fixing it 20.26.29 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@69-160-88-44.chvlva.adelphia.net) 20.26.40 # what is the filesize of your bootloader-video.bin file? 20.27.09 # should be 52,796 bytes 20.28.16 # MD5 of 94f65ee01655af2d1e0ed8a9b994b967 20.28.39 # I'm trying to install and get an error message: "cannot open firmware image file apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin" 20.28.58 Quit bbroke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.29.05 # then you didn't read the instructions closely enough 20.29.30 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.29.49 # 52 KB it is 20.30.32 # FreeBlues - it sounds like (as Mikachu alludes) you missed out the steps with the Broadcom firmwaer 20.33.11 # Has anyone been looking at optimising the audio codecs for arm? 20.33.27 # stripwax: I don't think so. 20.33.40 # okie doke. might have a crack at that 20.34.13 # barrywardell: Won't your irq() function be identical to all the other PortalPlayer targets? Or maybe even the same as all the ARM targets? 20.35.10 # nope, I did the early steps and everything was fine until this one 20.35.39 # does such a file exist in your directory FreeBlues? 20.35.39 # linuxstb: almost, except without the ipod_4g_button_int(); 20.35.47 # FreeBlues: You should have an apple_os.bin file, and an apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin file - both around 5MB in size. 20.36.25 # barrywardell: Ah, OK. So we'll need target-specific versions? 20.36.36 Quit dwihno_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.36.36 # 5,243,392 bytes with a MD5 of aa3854fa4f054f2a70e91d0da8576f65 20.37.10 # linuxstb: yes, I think so. although maybe TIMER1() and TIMER2() are the same for all PP devices 20.37.14 # ^^^for the apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin file (I don't /believe/ it varies) 20.37.27 # Soap: Mine is the same size, but the MD5 checksum is 709b9ab7b5674af0d7f10173b213e12d 20.37.47 # well, there goes that theory. 20.37.54 # * freqmod has updated his ipodnano drawing now it has a correct phones and usb connector at the bottom 20.38.08 # linuxstb: I could easily put an ifndef IRIVER_H10 in there but don't think that would be an ideal solution 20.38.21 # freqmod - is your drawing accurate as to Nano scratches? 20.38.37 # no, sorry it is a simple svg drawing 20.38.38 # that would be a lot of vectors. 20.39.10 # just put a big star over the screen 20.39.12 # ahh and i forgot the logo on the usb connector ... fixing 20.39.25 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp55-96.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.39.49 # freqmod: the usb cable wire doesn't have a white background set 20.40.52 # is is using a gradient, which is white, or wasn't it what you meant? 20.40.54 # freqmod: and neither does the ipod? 20.41.11 # they are transparent here 20.41.24 # bootpartition.bin is on my directory 20.41.35 # the ipod was a bit transparent (161/255 in inkscape, fixed it now, not uploaded yet) 20.41.59 # the cable looks like a gray to transparent gradient here 20.42.07 # (my browser default bg is not white) 20.42.26 # A: 255, even on white 20.42.49 # okay 20.43.08 # * freqmod checks the svg source 20.44.00 # if i open it in inkscape and draw an object under it, i can see the object 20.44.12 # stop-opacity:1; ?? 20.44.52 # the ipod isn't fully transparent (in this upload) the cables are, i cant see anything trough in inkscape 20.45.17 # (however the borders are partily transparent) 20.46.00 Quit [HO]vo|t ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.48.02 Quit FreeBlues ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.48.25 Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.48.28 Join Paprica [0] (i=Paprica@rockbox/developer/paprica) 20.48.38 # * Paprica is back 20.48.39 # :P 20.48.41 # on my monitor (old monitor), the black body, and the wheel look to be almost the same colour. 20.48.46 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@220-253-36-236.VIC.netspace.net.au) 20.49.20 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 20.49.39 # * freqmod has updated svg image, tested with a black box behind it to look for transparency 20.49.48 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-095-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.50.10 # freqmod, what is the adress? 20.50.13 # ...again 20.50.24 # http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/ipno.white.ink.svg 20.50.43 # thanks 20.52.13 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.52.24 # freqmod, are you doing all the ports? 20.52.47 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 20.53.18 # * freqmod is currently doing video (have done nano) 20.57.45 # http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/ipvd.white.ink.svg 20.58.06 # :) 20.58.13 # the cable looks right for me on both now 20.58.32 # but i think the video is a bit transparent :) 20.59.01 # i'm guessing the manual will be printed on white paper and it won't really matter, but still 20.59.09 # it _was_ 20.59.21 # sorry, refreshed 20.59.33 # i fixed it after your post 20.59.36 # ehh line 20.59.41 # ah heh 20.59.46 # quick 21.00.44 # "scp ipvd.white.ink.svg ....@sv.fq:/var/www/localhost/htdocs/upload/" is my frient 21.00.46 # *friend 21.02.00 # i won't do any more target's today, but feel free to use my drawings as a base, I will probably make some more tomorrow (after my first day at school this year) 21.02.50 # hah, i start _next_ week 21.03.44 # but does your term end at 23 of june? 21.03.53 # let me check 21.04.40 # freqmod - FWIW, the diameter of the center button is 1/3 the diameter of the total wheel on the ipod video. 21.04.54 # no, it ends on the second of june 21.05.08 # ended, rather 21.05.20 Join lodesi_ [0] (n=lds@d02m-89-83-210-169.d4.club-internet.fr) 21.05.40 # in your svg it appears closer to 43% 21.06.41 # ok, didn't know maybe someone can fix it, or I will some other day (to make a wheel in inkscape make to circles and choose exclution (ctrl+^), or maybe the menu name is something else, I have a Norwegian translation of inkscape) 21.07.52 # * freqmod fixes it after all 21.09.00 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD38E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.09.50 # ipno&ipvd updated 21.11.15 # the inner circle is 33% of the outer 21.13.15 # * freqmod is away 21.17.01 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.17.01 Quit lodesi (Connection timed out) 21.17.45 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 21.19.13 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD59AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.20.01 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 21.20.25 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.22.42 # mirak: Regarding your garbled gfx problem with emac - 2 questions: 21.23.07 # (1) Did you set the correct emac mode? (fractional or integer, depending on what you need) 21.23.25 # (2) Do you clear the accumulator for the next round? 21.23.26 # i thought he fixed it 21.24.12 # ah ok - overlooked that 21.24.14 # yes I fixed it 21.24.23 # but that was the problem 21.24.26 # thanks 21.24.43 # amiconn: you did some asm in coldfire ? 21.25.01 # yes, quite a bit 21.25.26 # Not much math stuff though, mostly bit fiddling 21.25.28 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 21.25.32 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 21.25.46 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 21.26.48 Join midgey34 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.27.10 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 21.27.40 # mirak: fyi - in rockbox we clear the accumulator together with fetching the result, so you can expect accN to be zero when entering a routine. 21.28.06 # Your function in turn is responsible for clearing it again 21.28.18 # movclr is simply more efficient that clearing beforehand 21.28.24 # I use the movclr 21.28.45 # not on the last one 21.28.45 # Not here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/qmZTKg93.html 21.28.58 # Yes, you're supposed to use it on the last one as well 21.29.18 # And you can leave out the "move.l #0, %%acc0 \n\t" instead 21.29.31 # yep 21.30.07 # this part will not last, my goal is to do the idct_row and idct_col 21.30.28 # I know how this works now 21.30.52 # though the accumulator with shifts etcertra is not that easy ... 21.31.29 Quit rotator () 21.31.48 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust291.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.33.45 # damn there is a reportage on bill gates on tv ... 21.34.04 # just after madona ... 21.35.39 # I can understand Chen approach in the paper brought by linuxstb, but I don't understand most of the idct code, especially the bit shifts. I don't knowwhat they are used for 21.36.07 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 21.36.08 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 21.36.28 Quit apo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.36.36 # Wow... with the new remote lcd transfer it would be possible to run the grayscale library on the iriver remote... 21.37.07 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 21.37.30 # Mmmm: Hey Mmmm can I bend your ear for a sec? 21.37.44 # bend away :D 21.38.03 # mirak: I don't know the paper, but I think the shifts are related to the fact that the idct uses fixed point 21.38.16 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-072-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.38.17 # check this post real quick: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5851.msg46073#msg46073 21.38.34 Nick apo is now known as apo` (n=apo@dslb-084-057-072-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.38.44 # just read about the CVS remote button fixes. 21.38.59 # will test asap and report back in the forums 21.39.35 # amiconn: hum see, it's to reduce the number of number under the dot, since mutliplication of the number will shift it to the left 21.40.32 # Davide-NYC: aha..just looked at your post...now I know what you were on about. You can have a long press execute without the previous short press anyway, so it wouldnt be a prob 21.40.41 # yes 21.40.55 # and UP/Down don't modify values, so there is no problem there 21.40.56 # Davide-NYC: but I still think it would be easy to switch the lcd off 21.41.09 # too easy 21.41.22 # it's REALLY easy now though. anytime you hit joystick down it turns off 21.41.29 # (or on) 21.43.43 # what I mean is, say the lcd is off and you want to move up to the volume, if you press for just a little too long you will turn the lcd on and ...tick tick tick...a ruined recording. LCD off button needs to be on its own IMO 21.45.13 # Does the ticking enter the recording? 21.45.20 # haha you bet 21.45.20 # * amiconn never tried 21.45.23 # Davide-NYC: Anyway...try my patch and see what you think 21.45.32 # amiconn: yes on the H1/3xx 21.45.33 # where is patch 21.45.45 # My irivers both tick, but not very loud 21.45.46 # found it 21.46.13 # amiconn: could you test the patch for me on the recorder? 21.46.33 # this one correct? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5829.msg46046#msg46046 21.47.16 # Or http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/Rockbox/recordingscreenbuttacc.patch 21.47.50 # Anyone try the keymappings attached to the ButtonAction wiki page? 21.48.03 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 21.49.15 # I need OndioFM, Recorder and X5 tests for this patch, just to check the buttons don't break in the recording screen: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/Rockbox/recordingscreenbuttacc.patch 21.49.26 # anyone fancy it? :) 21.49.26 Join hotwire__ [0] (n=christop@toronto-HSE-ppp4318443.sympatico.ca) 21.51.04 # * freqmod has made a style in inkscape (which requires some patches) Style svg: http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/rockboxbackdrop.wps.ink.svg (to look) Svg with images: http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/rbbg.wps.svg.zip Style: http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/ocean.wps.zip (with readme) 21.51.48 # hotwire_ Hey hotwire, I have the answer (thanks to Mmmm) about the button labelling on the H300 remote. 21.51.50 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD38E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.51.52 # you still need it? 21.56.17 # Screenshots: http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/dump 060820-215453.jpg http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/dump 060820-215508.bmp.jpg 21.57.39 # Mmmm: Did you check whether the ticking enters the recording? I wouldn't expect it to... 21.58.01 # it does yes! 21.58.18 # that's why I made a remote LCD off button 21.59.30 # I don't like one thing about the action stuff - it includes dead code on a number of platforms 21.59.56 # have a look here for the ticking thing http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4573.0 22.00.08 # We simply cannot afford dead code on archos, and I bet the iFP7xx port will run into the same problem 22.00.18 # freqmod: I like that one, just because as far as I can tell it's not based on either a previous WPS, or the WPS on another player. 22.00.41 # amiconn: I dunno about the iFP. It has 1mb of RAM, and is flash based, so it shouldn't be *too* big of a deal, should it? 22.01.02 # The progress wheel in the middle is based on the apple mac os x loading screen, but else it is totaly independent 22.01.04 # Mmmm: check here for some thoughts on RLCD on/off http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5851.msg46078#msg46078 22.01.15 # The 1MB have to be shared between the rockbox binary, its bss, the codec ram, and at least a small buffer 22.01.27 # (and the rockbox text from the menu backdrop in black glass) 22.01.28 # Not that it matters. If it's a problem for 1 port, it's a problem for all of Rockbox. 22.01.58 # Even if there were no problem, dead code is a bad thing in general, imho 22.02.12 # Davide-NYC: have you tried the patch yet before you get too excited about alternatives? 22.02.30 # in the process of Make 22.02.34 # (sorry) 22.02.40 # ok.. :) 22.04.17 # amiconn: Is there a way to resolve the dead code issue? 22.04.42 # The only problem is that the progress wheel requires this (my) patch http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/gwps-imgprogress.diff 22.05.12 Quit hotwire_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.05.49 # hello 22.05.53 Join sharpe` [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 22.05.56 # * Davide-NYC wishes all of this game code would just dissapear so my MAKEs don't take forever 22.06.04 Quit sharpe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.06.06 # Davide-NYC: edit your SUBDIRS file 22.06.17 # // is your friend 22.06.20 # or run 'make bin' 22.06.25 # :-) 22.06.31 # make bin was definitely a wonderful addition. 22.06.32 # will that make codecs? 22.06.35 # no 22.06.39 Quit sharpe` (Client Quit) 22.06.55 # it'll just build the main binary I tihnk 22.07.06 # Paul_The_Nerd: The only option I can see is to undefine certain actions if they're not possible on a certain target, and #ifdef out the corresponding code part 22.07.12 # I think I'll try the SUBDIRS route... 22.07.15 # thanks! 22.07.25 # Paprica: about your chopper plugin, i had several questions: why did you include unused defines at the top ? (cut and paste from brickmania ?) Why can't LEVEL_MODE_STEEP be selected in the menu ? (btw, i think that custom menues are now banned from plugins, not sure though) 22.07.48 # there is a patch on the tracker that removes some custom menus 22.08.00 # It means we cannot get rid of all the ifdefing, but this kind of ifdefs is way less confusing than the nested ifdefs from before the action handling 22.08.27 # amiconn: Yeah, I don't think you'll ever be able to get from it entirely without it costing you something anyway. 22.08.47 # Mmmm: Interesting - I just performed this test on my H140 22.09.05 # are the ifdef generally the only way to support multiple architectures ? 22.09.15 # don't you just love that interference? :D 22.09.24 # you can have functions defined in other files that are compiled conditionally too 22.09.30 # I can see the signal, and hear some kind of ticking, although it sounds slightly different than the usual ticking while playback 22.09.31 # that's what linux does mostly 22.09.49 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.09.53 # (the kernel) 22.09.59 # amiconn: yes it is very different..it was also present in the original firmware 22.10.01 # ..and what's strange is that the ticking reduction doesn't seem to do anything 22.10.32 # Mikachu: some codecs use that too I have seen, though they are still some ifdefs at some point. 22.10.32 # Mmmm: Hmm, and it does disappear when you switch off the lcd? 22.10.34 # amiconn: I concur, the reduce ticking code does nothing for recorded material 22.10.53 # amiconn: yep 22.10.58 # amiconn: yup 22.11.07 # it's lcd_update that does it 22.11.13 # Is that just not updating it, or really switching it off (with the sequence from the datahseet? 22.11.25 # just not updating 22.11.29 # odd... 22.12.05 # press vol- on your remote to see 22.13.47 # * amiconn wonders what signal line is the offending one here 22.14.12 # It can't be the clock line and also not the data line, otherwise the ticking reduction would have an effect 22.14.43 # Bagder: Since MIDI is in the 'nearly usable, at least on Coldfire targets, is there any way we can go about getting that patchset availa 22.14.50 # available on the daily page? 22.14.58 # ah yes 22.15.07 # Almost sounds like the /CS ticking on H300 22.15.23 # Right now it's in a rather odd place in the wiki, for new users to find at least. 22.15.44 # * amiconn is building a quick test 22.15.58 # I am fiddling with the remote lcd code anyway 22.16.38 # Maybe keeping /CS low all the time helps... 22.17.32 Quit hotwire__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.17.55 # Hmm, not /CS 22.22.46 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 22.24.20 Quit novimon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.24.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.24.35 Quit mantono (Remote closed the connection) 22.26.21 # Mmmm: I see why you chose Vol- to turn off the RLCD. Makes perfect sense on the H100 remote. 22.26.32 # :) 22.26.38 Quit apo` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.26.39 # how about h300? 22.26.47 # Mmmm: small bug in WRS while using H100 22.26.48 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5829.msg46086#msg46086 22.26.55 # testing H300 now 22.28.01 Join apo` [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-072-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.28.37 # Mmmm: warning, all of my tests are incomplete (no FM no plugins etc) 22.29.10 # I just test WPS, WRS, file browser, menu, Vkeyboard 22.29.15 # Just the recording screen with that patch 22.29.27 # Vkeyboard not yet done 22.29.56 # Mmmm: I LOVE it! -10 turns of the RLCD! 22.30.00 # :-) 22.30.04 # :D 22.30.12 # Me stoopid happy now kid! 22.31.11 # I just edited your post to point out that this was with my patch 22.31.31 # same teeny bug about incrementing and decrementing values. pressing and holding left only decrements the volume by one, 22.31.47 # Mmmm: thanks for pointing out how sloppy I am. 22.31.52 # :-) 22.31.57 # is this on all screens? 22.32.24 # amiconn: hum I noticed that the mac can't use constants, just registers, can you confirm that ? 22.32.34 # (GF is using H140 in bath at mo, cant test! :D) 22.32.34 # no no, just WRS 22.32.40 # haha 22.32.47 # Sorry I mean all controllers 22.32.51 # Mmmm: that's dangerous 22.32.55 # :d 22.32.59 # :D 22.33.06 # just DC 22.33.08 # Mmmm: the water in the air etcetera 22.33.12 # Mmmm: I'll edit my post to give more detail 22.33.26 # Mmmm: What about the H140? 22.33.36 # Ahh, you mean dangerous to the H140 not GF! :D 22.33.40 # exactly 22.33.44 # yes lol 22.34.08 # mirak: Yes, but if you have an array of data in memory, check out the emac instructions with parallel load 22.34.53 # For an example of rockbox code which uses it, take a look at preglow's asm lpc decoding in libffmpegflac 22.35.16 # Davide-NYC: I see the problem with in/dec settings button...new patch in a sec... 22.35.59 # amiconn: data loading from memory in an instruction doesn't cost more than constant or registry ? 22.36.10 # k 22.36.11 # Davide-NYC: cor that was a good catch...All targets have the same prob!!! 22.36.16 # :-) 22.36.17 # amiconn: hum I guess the acces to memory costs. 22.36.23 # Depends on what memor ythat is. Keep often-used data in iram 22.37.03 # If you want to do the whole idct in asm, you'll probably run out of registers anyway 22.37.53 # amiconn: I will try something like put the 8x8 block into iram, then perform the chen matrix idct on row, put the data in another 8x8 block, perform the column idct and put the data back to destination. 22.38.37 # I am not sure if it's intersting to swap an 8x8 block from ram to iram, do the idct, then copy it back to ram 22.38.50 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 22.39.20 # If you can load the whole thing into registers at once (which I doubt), copying doesn't pay off. 22.39.33 # as for the intermediate 8x8 block, I guess it's not usefull to put it static in iram, pushing it on stack could be enough ? 22.39.55 # But if you need to do it in parts, copying should pay off because the copy operation can profit from burst mode 22.39.56 # amiconn: I can load a row, yes 22.40.14 # what do you mean by doing it in parts ? 22.40.16 # The stack may or may not be in iram 22.40.22 # ah ? 22.40.31 # Davide-NYC: ok, new patch in same place...Get compiling :) 22.40.33 # Depends in which thread your routine is running - the main stack is in iram 22.40.51 # Mmmm: gotta go soon so this'll be it for me for today 22.41.15 # mirak: Is the data 16bit or 32bit? 22.41.20 # Davide-NYC: Just this one more? 22.41.23 # amiconn: at least the matrix with fixed cosin coefficient must be in iram 22.41.29 # NP 22.41.35 # :) 22.41.49 # amiconn: I don't know, I use 32 bits to be sure, but I was wondering that 22.41.58 # to re-apply a patch I use the exact same patch command? 22.42.06 # since it's fixed point that's certainly 32 bits 22.42.20 Join Caliban_ [0] (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 22.42.20 # Not necessarily 22.42.31 # yes ... :) 22.42.31 # Davide-NYC: same command with -R to remove 22.42.48 # Davide-NYC: then same command to re-apply 22.42.49 # amiconn: if they are not the problem is that you can overflow very fast 22.43.15 # amiconn: let me know if you know 22.43.28 # that -R after the -p0? 22.43.38 # Davide-NYC: yes, (1st with old file, 2nd with new) 22.43.38 # or does it not matter where? 22.43.38 # Davide-NYC: anywhere before the < 22.43.44 # k 22.43.54 # or after! anywhere will do! 22.43.54 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.44.05 # Mmmm: ? no 22.44.10 # yep 22.44.14 # no 22.44.23 # amiconn: the worse thing is that assembly can be fun 22.44.34 # Mikachu: patch -p0 < blahblah.patch -R is fine 22.44.35 # * Davide-NYC making hmm 22.44.36 # I forgot that 22.44.38 # Mmmm: no 22.44.55 # well, it is on mine! 22.45.00 # dude compile error 22.45.06 # doh! 22.45.25 # Mmmm: wow bash is weird :) 22.45.28 # * Mikachu uses zsh 22.45.39 # zsh++! 22.45.42 # it might be me 22.45.50 Nick jborn_ is now known as JoeBorn (n=jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 22.45.59 # I'm doing my brute force delete, copy dance 22.46.09 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 22.46.17 # Okay, just had to add my vote. 22.46.55 # Davide-NYC: compiles on mine! 22.47.04 # yeah it must be me 22.47.07 # I am no good with bash 22.47.16 # or C or whatever 22.47.20 # :-P 22.48.16 Join [San] [0] (n=San@A-72-101.cust.iol.ie) 22.48.20 # Mikachu: at least I know how to pronounce bash...:D 22.48.35 # Zsh??? I give up 22.48.51 # zed shell 22.49.00 # or Z shell 22.49.02 # ok, fair enough 22.49.16 # :) 22.50.17 # * Davide-NYC would kiss someone that writes up a quick 'n' dirty howto to exclude all of the game stuff on compile. 22.50.34 # Davide-NYC: putting // before them in SUBDIRS didn't help? 22.50.34 # * Davide-NYC with tongue 22.50.55 # that get srid of pacbox and doom and maybe two three other things 22.51.04 # I want rid of gaming 22.51.11 # then you want SOURCES 22.51.13 # you mean plugins? 22.51.19 # not all plugins 22.51.19 # i just ignored them because they're so small and fast to compile 22.51.20 # Davide-NYC: Do what Mikachu has been saying and edit apps/plugins/SUBDIRS... 22.51.36 # That's where pacbox and Doom are included in the build. 22.51.41 # willdo 22.52.08 # use linux and ccache and those games don't matter much 22.52.30 # won't ccache recompile if a .h file has been changed? 22.52.33 # I'm a wretched noob on Win32 and cygwin, come on 22.53.48 # Bagder: Hmm, if it would be possible to crosscompile the sdl sim for win32... 22.53.57 # yeah 22.54.00 # Then a linux vm wouldn't need x11 at all 22.54.10 # amiconn: There's a patch in the tracker to get that started. 22.54.19 # amiconn: but it would need a cross-compiler more 22.54.37 # a compiler is probably larger than X? 22.54.39 # rasher has the details in the tracker 22.54.43 # Yes, but a crosscompiler is smaller than all the x11 stuff, and it doesn't get loaded at boot 22.54.48 # is it? 22.55.05 # Guess so 22.55.10 # and boot? you hardly ever boot the vm image 22.55.17 # * Davide-NYC finally make zip 22.55.37 # * Paul_The_Nerd greatly prefers the old VM image without X. 22.55.44 # 20M ipod-chain 22.55.59 # 12M /usr/lib/xorg /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 =X 22.56.05 # my /usr/i586-mingw32msvc/ is 25MB 22.56.08 # But then, I'm just not a fan of getting my mouse involved if I don't have to. 22.56.09 # i guess that doesn't quite include everything though 22.56.55 # xorg 6.2?? 22.57.08 # the so version is not related to the human version 22.57.37 # tucos, still around? 22.57.43 # pixelma, yes 22.57.44 # tucoz I mean 22.57.55 # I started doing svgs too 22.58.10 # cool 22.58.15 # http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/Recorder_colours.svg (Archos recorder...) 22.58.22 # I found out that I suck at doing that 22.58.28 # Mmmm: Preliminary tests say the WRS with H300 is A O K ! :-) 22.58.40 # Woo hooo...... \o/ 22.58.53 # so if you have use for that I would go on---- 22.59.25 # pixelma, yes. Certainly. I think we should go for vector versions for all the targets 22.59.31 # I know you guys like the scrolling between gains, but I don't. Please revisit my idea for this screen and see if you still thing it has no merit. 22.59.45 # :D 22.59.46 # I accept your final decisions. :-) 23.00.15 # it looks better if you use the pointer 23.00.35 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.00.43 # tucoz: since freqmod seems to do the ipods... I would work on Archos targets at first 23.00.56 # It's the "jumping up" feeling you get when you go down from both gains to just the left 23.01.06 # pixelma, sounds like a plan. Then we need someone to do the irivers :) 23.01.17 # Gotta go. Later. 23.01.23 # See ya... 23.01.25 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 23.02.08 # tucoz: I could do that next if noone else does... 23.02.47 # So...should I just commit the recording button code and just mop up the errors as people see them or wait for testing, which it seems could be forever? 23.03.14 # (not that I think there are any errors of course) 23.04.04 # pixelma, ok. I'll think what we will do about the button descriptions before I commit this. 23.06.08 # tucoz: I'm still optimising - it looks better here with some gradients - should I also add views of the sides like freqmod did with the hold switch? 23.07.34 # pixelma, in case you think that is needed. I mean, these images will be mainly used as a reference for the keys used throughout the manual. 23.08.22 # pixelma, I think people understand an arrow or a line pointing to the sides ( in case there is a button there) 23.09.46 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.57 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.10.20 # ok.. I'll think about it - also should I add the button names or will you (or other manual people) do that later? 23.11.00 # I think we can do that later. It would be best if we could overlay text on the image itself. 23.11.11 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.45 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 23.11.51 # As we use the palatino font in the manual, we would want that same font for the button references. 23.12.17 # tucoz: alright... still enough work for me ;) 23.13.13 # pixelma, hehe. Yes. You do the hard part, and leave the easy one for me. :) 23.14.05 Join _hotwire_ [0] (n=christop@toronto-HSE-ppp4318443.sympatico.ca) 23.14.24 # Ok. I am off for the night. See you around. 23.14.29 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 23.15.00 # <_hotwire_> amiconn: i have working code for the input to the iriver remote buttons, i'll post it, and we can talk about those changes you wanted to make 23.15.09 # <_hotwire_> on the sim that is 23.16.12 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.19.53 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 23.20.01 # barrywardell: here? 23.20.08 # <_hotwire_> my version of uisimulator/sdl/button.c to be optimized: http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=4ea 23.20.09 # yes 23.21.03 # barrywardell: the sansa seems to work with "encrypt -p all" and it would be really neat if the H10 does too. 23.21.18 # as then we can fix up a very simple "scramble" tool for us 23.21.21 # <_hotwire_> i mapped the various remotes to mutually exclusive keys, as there is currently no way to visually differentiate between the remotes. 23.21.23 # Yes.I just saw that on the forums 23.21.38 # I'll see if I can borrow my brother's H10 to test the theory 23.24.53 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 23.26.51 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-76-167.dslaccess.co.uk) 23.27.41 Nick Caliban_ is now known as Caliban (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 23.27.54 Quit Arathis () 23.27.59 # Bagder: yes, I think that works 23.28.08 # cool 23.29.17 # good think they don't use private/public encryption 23.29.31 # well 23.29.34 # DSA is hard enough 23.29.46 # if they had used it in a harder way 23.30.02 # they use 160bit keys 23.30.58 # doesn't that take a while to bruteforce? 23.31.04 # a while, yes 23.31.07 # luck for us they made it easy to bypass the encryption 23.31.10 # it would be completley impossible 23.33.04 Part stripwax 23.33.05 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.33.14 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 23.33.46 # Any guesses as to why they let you define a specific amount of unencrypted data? 23.34.13 # they seem to use 0x200 there for most mi4 files 23.34.28 # but no, I don't see why 23.35.01 # to let us see the exception vectors and some ascii strings? ;-) 23.35.20 # Ok, I committed the Recording button action code. If anyone's recording screen is playing up, I'm the one to scream at ;) 23.35.29 # Bagder: any further thoughts on my system.c question? 23.36.01 # line 1150 23.36.48 # TIMER1 ? 23.37.40 # just after that 23.37.43 # irq() 23.38.13 # I want to make a H10 version but without the ipod_4g_button_int(); part 23.39.47 # can't you just make a local system.c version in target/ ? 23.40.14 # we want the ipod code to move over to such a system in the future anyway 23.40.16 # I tried that and put an irq function in there but linking crt0.S fails then 23.40.44 # crt0.S:(.text+0x30): undefined reference to `irq' 23.41.00 # I can't figure out why I'm getting that error 23.41.43 Join Febs_ [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.42.14 # Paul_The_Nerd, did you just delete that spam message? 23.42.28 # We went from spam to ban in less than one minute. That's got to be some sort of record. 23.42.48 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 23.43.01 Quit barrywardell () 23.43.55 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-228-43.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 23.44.13 # Febs_: Yeah, hey, have you noticed if most of the spam just shows up in the first public forum in the list? 23.44.26 # * Paul_The_Nerd has an idea. 23.44.37 # barrywardell: I can't say I see what that happens... 23.44.42 # why that 23.45.24 # How 'bout a forum entitled SPAM that is only visible to users with <1 post. New users will see it until they've made exactly one post, and I bet more than half of our spam will just end up there and not even be seen by the majority of users? 23.45.25 # Bagder: so changing the plaintext variable makes it possible to boot without encryption on the sansa ? 23.45.40 # merbanan: yes, and on the h10 too 23.46.22 # Bagder: I can't find a header where irq() is declared. Could that be the problem? 23.46.53 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.47.04 # Bagder: cool, really cool. But how is that last block check overridden ? 23.47.18 # barrywardell: I think it's just declared as a global variable in crt0.S 23.47.46 # barrywardell: (you can't #include C .h files in .S files...) 23.47.46 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.47.50 # merbanan: overridden? 23.48.08 # linuxstb: i see. so why wouldn't it be found in my target tree file then? 23.48.17 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 23.48.46 # the target system-h10.c definitely gets compiled 23.49.21 Quit apo` (Remote closed the connection) 23.49.21 # I don't know... Have you tried a "make clean" ? 23.49.50 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-072-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.49.57 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006073115]") 23.50.29 Quit pi ("Everyone has to believe in something, I believe I will have another drink") 23.50.46 # I think I've even tried from an empty build dir 23.51.00 Join pi [0] (n=pi@80-41-218-65.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 23.51.30 # * barrywardell is very frustrated 23.52.34 # Bagder: hmm, bad thinking 23.54.12 # barrywardell: I assume the ".global irq" line in crt0.S is what tells it that irq() is outside that file - you haven't excluded that with an #ifdef, have you? 23.54.35 # * barrywardell checks 23.55.37 # * dan_a is thinking of getting a Sansa E250 23.55.40 Quit Febs_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.54 # dan_a: we can use a few more hands on the port ;-) 23.56.12 # in fact, we can't call it a port yet even 23.56.43 # * linuxstb is still thinking about an HI-X8 23.57.00 Quit Mmmm (Remote closed the connection) 23.57.01 # dan_a: no, I don't think so. It finds irq if I put it in system.c but not if I put it in target 23.57.11 # * barrywardell must be missing something simple 23.57.32 Join [HO]vo|t [0] (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 23.57.35 # barrywardell: so put it in system.c for now then and we can work out the proper fix later 23.58.17 # OK Bagder 23.58.35 # just put a big comment explaining the situation