--- Log for 26.08.106 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 14 hours ago 00.00.04 # linuxstb: oh, my fault, i forgot to turn down the 60hz band on the equalizer as well ;) 00.00.28 Join OolonColuphid [0] (n=3fa98405@labb.contactor.se) 00.00.31 # but what is really weird is, that you can hear some beeps at certain levels with an enabled equalizer on a completly silent file 00.00.48 # encoded at ogg qualy 4,5 00.01.12 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.01.38 Quit blx ("quit") 00.01.57 # that wasn't a comment against linuxstd I mean stB 00.03.43 # linuxstb: why isn't it warning about .wps files with the same problem then? why should I care? 00.04.05 # .wps files are also excluded if they don't fit, maybe you have a very large lcd 00.04.16 # 160x128 x5: that's all 00.04.25 # that is a very small lcd :) 00.04.37 # it has big pixels though 00.05.31 # Then I guess I don't know why I should care about the .rwps and not the .wps 00.05.54 # maybe the filter doesn't know about x5 yet 00.07.51 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 00.07.51 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.09.45 # * barrywardell has rockbox running on his H10 :) 00.10.06 # buttons don't work though 00.12.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 00.12.23 # barrywardell: congratulations. What was the problem stopping it before? 00.12.39 # I don't know really 00.12.49 # I was trying to run a normal build directly 00.13.01 # barrywardell: Wooooo Hooooo!!! 00.13.15 # Instead, this time I made a bootloader which loaded rockbox like the ipod does 00.13.19 # and it just worked 00.13.31 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 00.14.21 # Can I set it to play a mp3 automatically on startup? I don't have working buttons yet 00.14.48 # there is autoresume on startup, but you have to have a playlist then 00.14.53 # You should be able to. Look at the code in tree.c that starts playback of a file. 00.14.54 # maybe if you copy some statefiles over from the sim? 00.14.57 # or that 00.15.41 # barrywardell: So you're just praying that the ipod playback code will work? 00.16.02 # I suppose so 00.16.11 # MrH seems to think that it would 00.16.20 Join blx [0] (n=x@h122n11c1o1028.bredband.skanova.com) 00.17.12 # tools/configure is what writes the makefile with commands so shouln't that need a little update too? 00.18.55 # hello 00.19.50 Join ranunculoid [0] (n=eamon@83.147.152.42) 00.20.30 # Can rockbox play ogg files gaplessly as well as MP3s and FLACs? 00.20.41 # Yes 00.20.42 # yes 00.21.24 # barrywardell: Looking at the filetree.c and tree.c code, I think it would be easier to implement a simple button driver - with up/down and enter. 00.21.53 # Which is easier on battery life on a 30gig 5g ipod with rockbox, -q4.5 oggs or V0 MP3? 00.22.01 # anyone here knows what ubuntu package is needed to compile iPlay? while building from the source i get arm-elf-gcc:program not found ... 00.22.23 # wrong channel 00.22.42 # you want #ipodlinux 00.22.56 # linuxstb: I'm starting to come to the same conclusion 00.23.01 # sorry 00.23.17 # my bad 00.23.30 # i tough i was on the #ipodlinux tab on xchat 00.23.31 # :S 00.23.37 # So which is better for battery in rockbox, OGG or MP3? 00.24.43 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-3-97.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.24.50 # * jhMikeS has to crash learn some perl now 00.26.11 # ranunculoid: They are more or less the same. You can test yourself by playing the file, then going into the Audio Thread debug menu and looking at the CPU boost ratio. The higher that number, the more CPU the decoding is taking. 00.26.29 Quit ranunculoid (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.26.52 # * preglow has no beer :/ 00.29.18 # woe is me 00.30.59 Join ranunculoid [0] (n=eamon@83.147.152.42) 00.31.09 # preglow: my sympathies 00.31.36 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.31.59 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 00.37.25 Quit BockBilbo ("Ex-Chat") 00.40.26 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.44.38 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 00.48.23 Quit lodesi ("leaving") 00.53.47 Quit ranunculoid (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.57.25 Join ranunculoid [0] (n=eamon@83.147.152.42) 01.06.46 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 01.07.18 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.12.44 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@87-194-60-156.bethere.co.uk) 01.23.15 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.23.15 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.23.45 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 01.29.39 Join sm007h [0] (n=smooth@vp088094.reshsg.uci.edu) 01.30.05 # linuxstb, are you still around? 01.31.22 # Yes. 01.31.30 # I can't get that bootloader you gave me to work 01.31.45 # What does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" display? 01.32.28 Join ootput [0] (n=ootput@tor/regular/five0) 01.32.41 # howdy 01.32.56 # i finally got around to getting rockbox on my 1st gen mini 01.33.02 # gotta say i love it 01.33.53 # I was wondering if there was documention on how to 'clean up' the ipod, and remove unnecessary objects 01.34.26 # as I'll be using rockbox, and only rockbox, i'd like to do away with whatever I don't need 01.34.50 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 01.34.56 # the only needed dir is .rockbox 01.35.14 Part ranunculoid ("Konversation terminated!") 01.35.36 # where is the apple firmware located? 01.35.54 # in the vast expanses of space outside the fat partition 01.36.07 # heh 01.36.23 # so i can safely remove non-.rockbox and non-Music dirs? 01.36.28 # yeah 01.36.38 # itunes music will be in ipod_control though, if you want to keep that 01.36.48 # but probably not since it mangles the filenames 01.37.10 # nah, i want to get rid of that heirarchy 01.37.21 # in windows, i had to go into each music folder, and delete the contents 01.37.29 # for some reason, i couldn't just delete the root music folder 01.37.38 # it was pretty gay, tbh 01.37.48 # and I don't know much scripting on the windows platform 01.38.57 Join daurn|afk [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 01.38.57 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.39.39 # * scorche wonders how deleting something could have a sexual preference.....or be happy for that matter 01.40.07 # Mikachu, it looks like i have a whole bunch of dotfile dirs, too: .DS_Store ._iPod_Control ._.Trashes .Spotlight-V100 .Trashes ._.VolumeIcon.icns .VolumeIcon.icns 01.40.20 # those look like crazy macosx files 01.40.31 # isn't there a plugin that removes them? 01.40.39 # rocktidy or something like that 01.41.03 # * ootput checks 01.41.11 # disktidy IIRC 01.41.17 # that's the guy 01.41.27 # why did you get an apple product in the first place when you dont like their style? ;) 01.41.37 # but ._iPod_Control should be removable atm? 01.41.42 # there are players with much better sound-quality out there 01.41.46 # i won mine 01.41.51 # ah, ok 01.41.54 # belze, hand-me-down 01.42.12 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 01.42.22 # I was considering an h120 for my flac files, but then i found about this project 01.42.29 Quit petur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.39 # well, the h120 has much better sound quality :) 01.42.48 # yeah :( 01.43.01 # i'd saved up for a micro-stack, too 01.43.24 # well, at least i put that cash to better use :) 01.43.40 # btw: i also archive my music in flac 01.43.50 # but for my player i convert it to ogg mostly 01.44.30 # i only have a few favorite albums, so i can keep them as flac on my pod 01.44.58 # would be interesting to know if the very low cpu usage of flac saves more battery even though the harddisk has to spin up more often 01.45.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.45.13 # maybe on flash based players 01.45.18 # i haven't been able to encode any new music lately, as I'm not too familiar with Accurate ripping tools on the Linux platform 01.45.29 # yeah, flash players should benefit from it 01.45.32 # ootput: cdparanoia 01.45.39 # that's what you use? 01.45.45 # otoh, flash players don't fit many flac albums 01.45.51 # i guess its as good as eac for win32? 01.45.54 # i think so 01.45.57 # Mikachu, is that primarily used as a backend? 01.46.02 # i use a frontend called abcde 01.46.07 # ah, ok 01.46.11 # i have only ever ripped like 3 audio cds though :) 01.46.32 # but i'm pretty sure cdparanoia is the best you can get 01.46.38 # belze, yeah, i was looking for an eac-substitute 01.46.48 # it also has the coolest way of telling status 01.47.04 # Mikachu, is it possible to set encoder flags with abcde, say, for example, -8 for flac? 01.47.10 # sure 01.47.17 # http://pastebot.openbox.org/12 :) 01.47.36 # uh, dude 01.47.41 # cdex is the best ripping tool for win32 01.47.43 # hands down 01.47.52 # nope, eac is ;) 01.48.03 # for linux, just use sound-juicer or cdparanoia 01.48.20 # you are all wrong!...musicmatch is the best! 01.48.28 # shudders 01.48.31 # ok...so i couldnt say that with a straight face...so what>/ 01.48.35 # it's been a while 01.48.49 # is the jukebox still in production? 01.48.53 # ootput: abcde can use cdparanoia or cdda2wav, and lame, oggenc, flac afaict 01.49.11 # dongs notwithstanding, you're talking to open source advocates here, and eac loses major points for not being open source 01.49.29 # cdex is? 01.49.30 # thats true, but it still gives perfect cdrip 01.49.32 # s 01.49.36 # cdex is GPL 01.49.42 Quit Rondom (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.47 # abcde is a bash script :) 01.49.48 # which lib does cdex use? 01.50.12 # Mikachu, i've used bashburn in the past, but I couldn't figure out how to pass encoder flags 01.50.37 # Now you can have make create a rockbox folder, a rockbox-full folder, or a rockbox-fonts folder...if noone wants it I'll dispose of it but I learned a little perl all of a sudden. 01.51.54 Join Rondom [0] (n=zuzuzuzu@p54AEFD06.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.52.14 # ootput: there is a .abcde.conf in your ~ that you can fiddle with 01.52.32 # cdex uses paranoia 01.54.21 # thanks 01.54.39 # are any of you familiar with .Spotlight-V100 directory? 01.54.49 # ie, can i safely remove it? 01.54.52 # it is not relevant to the operation of rockbox 01.55.47 # i _think_ spotlight is a searching program for osx 01.56.06 # It is. An annoying sucker... 01.56.08 Join Nova-A001 [0] (n=~~~~~~~~@unaffiliated/Nova-A001) 01.56.18 # one last one: bootex.log, and volumeicon.icns? 01.56.27 # also sounds like osx 01.56.48 # like i said you only need .rockbox and rockbox.ipod for rockbox 01.56.49 Join ryanpg_ [0] (n=ryanpg@c-67-186-114-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.57.05 # would anyone find it useful to just create the .rockbox folder instead of a zip file? 01.57.18 # Mikachu, ok 01.58.24 Quit ryanpg (Connection reset by peer) 01.58.54 # jhMikeS: I think I would use it, yes. 01.59.05 Quit belze ("Be Not Nobody...") 01.59.17 # there's this chipset that's used in a lot of generic mp3 players, with a homebrew scene around it 01.59.22 # you'd have to use something like tar cp .rockbox|(cd /mnt/ipod;tar xp) to copy it there 01.59.22 # can anybody remember what it is? 01.59.28 # i don't think cp lets you merge dirs anyway 01.59.51 Quit OolonColuphid ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.59.51 Part barrywardell 02.00.15 # why on earth can't i remove this ipod Music dir? The fat32 partition is mounted rw as a user, and for a user, me 02.00.27 # i couldn't get rid of it in Windows either 02.00.27 # linuxstb: would you rather it just be the .rockbox folder in the build directory or make a subdirectory with the .rockbox folder and the target? 02.00.29 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 02.01.00 # I would like the .rockbox to be created directly in /mnt/ipod/ 02.01.02 # ootput: what does it say? 02.01.19 # linuxstb: you mean straight to the player? 02.01.34 # Yes - to anywhere the user specifies. 02.01.52 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.02.00 # Mikachu, rm: cannot remove `....': Read-only file system 02.02.06 # fedora has this newfangled /media/IPOD mount point instead of the old /mnt/ipod 02.02.06 # is there a single place in the code that defines "/.rockbox" ? 02.02.18 # hmmm...yes 02.02.26 # if you want to have different versions installed 02.02.26 # Mikachu, apparetnly i can shuffle files around, but not delete them 02.02.34 # Mikachu: In what code? 02.02.40 # i just mean when you are in there digging, you could let the user change the .rockbox name too 02.02.54 # ootput: that's funky, no idea 02.03.03 # jhMikeS: rockbox/* 02.03.17 # can i change it in one place, recompile and put it in /.rockbox.hello and it would work? 02.03.20 # Mikachu: there's a hard define that sets the rockbox directory when built 02.04.09 # #define ROCKBOX_DIR "/.rockbox" in setings.h 02.04.36 Part Nova-A001 ("ESCAPE") 02.06.51 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.55 # hm, i may wipe the partition clean, and rsync 02.07.06 # or at least re-mount it 02.07.12 # Then how would the booloader know which one to go to? I think having directories other than ".rockbox/" is a lot of reworking just to get started/ 02.07.15 # i would fsck.vfat it first 02.07.26 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-34-188.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 02.07.28 # i was maybe thinking rolo 02.07.32 # but i haven't actually tried using that 02.07.48 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 02.08.00 Quit mrobefan (Remote closed the connection) 02.08.12 # i guess if you change the define, it's easy enough to change the makefile tooo 02.08.32 # is the 320 an affordable solution yet? 02.08.35 # or you could put the define in the makefile instead of settings.h, only one place to change 02.08.57 # i mean, has all the glitz/glamor-price-affecting factors gone yet? 02.09.10 # Mikachu: I think I spied some other explicit instances of "/.rockbox" in the code. 02.09.43 # maybe i'll make a patch for that that can rot in the tracker along with the rest 02.13.58 Quit mantono ("better sleep.... maybe...") 02.14.02 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 02.14.59 # an ipod's setup requires 2 partitions, right? one for the device, and the other for the user? 02.15.01 # Mikachu: I'll commit it...you mean just get rid of the explicite "/.rockbox"s? 02.15.19 # yeah 02.15.33 # but school starts on monday and mom has birthday party tomorrow, so possibly i will not follow up on this :) 02.15.47 # Maybe that was done alreay...I'm gonna look 02.16.01 # skuel...yech 02.16.13 # school = university 02.16.17 # but that's so much to type 02.19.23 # The recording patch in the tracker puts an end to that with codec paths anyway. 02.19.45 Quit ootput ("Leaving") 02.21.28 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.24.05 # uh oh, I think I finally bricked my nano 02.24.19 # it is very hard to do such a thing 02.24.25 # in fact you would be the first 02.24.26 # that's good to here 02.24.29 # hear 02.24.50 # well, it's on constantly. I can't get it to go into transfer mode 02.25.19 # it's on, syas no partition found, and loading rockbox.... 02.25.32 # and neither winxp or linux can "see" it when I connect via usb 02.25.33 # i think it's menu+select, before apple shows -> menu+left 02.25.42 # er 02.25.44 # select+left 02.25.48 # or possibly select+play 02.25.55 # one of those after resetting 02.26.02 # that will take you to emergency disk mode 02.26.04 Join KlrSpz [0] (n=klrSpz@c-24-0-64-6.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) 02.26.07 # ok, it checking right now 02.26.08 # yo 02.26.11 # cool 02.26.37 # ?I'm in diagnostic screen 02.26.44 # okay then it wasn't select+left :) 02.26.44 # on what? 02.26.46 Quit blx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.26.50 # try select+play 02.26.57 # what are you tryin to do? 02.27.14 # let me start with what I did 02.27.15 # i think we are trying to fix his nano 02.27.35 # I deleted all the partitions. created a tiny partition for the bootloader 02.27.47 # and then put it on and then I was giong to put the rockbox files on 02.27.56 # I don't have any apple stuff on there at all 02.28.04 # does the rockbox bootloader load? 02.28.10 # with the blue background and the cryptic text 02.28.23 # nothing 02.28.27 # just sits there 02.28.40 # but I think I may have gotten in with select+play 02.28.45 # i mean just after you reboot 02.28.48 # yes indeedy doo 02.29.04 # just a blue background, says rockbox loading.... 02.29.13 # and sits there, wont turn off or anything 02.29.15 # you have the firmware on there? 02.29.21 # well, that at least means the bootloader is installed right 02.29.24 # I have the bootloader 02.29.25 # the rockbox.ipod file? 02.29.28 # nt yet 02.29.36 # you need to go into diskmode and put that bad boy on there 02.29.36 # it is a bad idea to reboot before doing that :) 02.29.41 # couldn't put it on. going to try now that I was able to get it into disk mode 02.30.09 # hahaha, I see that now ;) 02.30.51 # apple did a good job with this thing ;) 02.31.19 # * sm007h likes unbrickable toys :D 02.32.42 # hrm... seem to be having trouble navigating my nano 02.33.02 # hmm, this wasn't much better 02.33.14 # btw devs, changing the bass/treble is fine realtime, but it appears changing the channels real time adds qquite a delay 02.34.54 # do most experience the blank/black screen after the bootloader? On x5 the bl was turned off first but a total reset of the lcd and backlight can be avoided...at least I know how on x5 02.34.59 # i'm gunna go out to eat, i'll hit you up when i get back smooth 02.35.27 # k, I'm all fixed up now 02.35.43 # sweet, no more apple_os and an extra 80gbs of space 02.35.52 # maybe not gb 02.36.03 # yeah, maybe not ;0 02.36.08 # kb 02.36.11 # :D 02.36.23 # mb? 02.36.31 # 80k isn't worth messing with 02.36.34 # kb, all that for an 80kb baby 02.36.40 # ghey 02.36.48 # so the apple os is only 80k? 02.36.51 # sure why not, I know you went through and erased all your plugins you weren't using? 02.36.58 # yeah 02.37.00 # no, the image is only like 5mb 02.37.03 # but 80k isn't like much 02.37.06 # the part is 80mb for some reason 02.37.09 # oh 02.37.10 # hmm 02.37.12 # dolts 02.37.25 # ok, i'm really gone this time, bbl 02.37.26 # well then, why did you bother to clear out those plugins ;) most of them are under 80k 02.37.26 Quit KlrSpz () 02.43.11 Quit sm007h () 02.45.14 # mmm... laphroaigh 02.46.13 # me night 02.46.41 # nighty nighty 02.47.41 Quit Rondom ("ok, ok, I'll quit") 02.48.04 # * jhMikeS thinks single match scotch whiskey tastes like pencils 02.50.03 # single malt? 02.51.13 # yes...laphroaigh 02.51.52 # or glenlivet 02.55.14 # * jhMikeS just gonna commit a quick x5 patch that keeps the BL from winking out during boot. It works perfectly. 02.55.56 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.56.18 # jhMikeS, do you know if anyone has tried loading the x5 firmware on an m5? 02.57.10 # ryanpg_: I haven't a clue 02.57.27 # hrm... guess it couldn't hurt to try 02.57.30 # feel free :) 02.57.35 # hehe 02.57.54 # I'd need directions for installing the bootloader though... missing in the manual 02.58.10 # Same way you flash original firmware updates 02.58.16 # at least on x5 02.58.20 # ok cool 02.58.55 # on the x5 if it "goes wrong" can you just reflash the official firmware? I mean it will still show up as a usb drive yes? 02.59.08 # yes 02.59.17 # k, what the heck, I'll give it a shot 02.59.29 # good luck 02.59.32 # thanks 02.59.57 # different display so I'm certain it won't work though :( 03.02.19 Join PyromancerX [0] (n=Pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 03.03.56 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.05.36 # nope 03.05.53 # firmware didn't update 03.06.14 # won't have the right header 03.06.40 # eh 03.07.02 # quite a bummer 03.07.14 # m5 has lotsa potential... just like the x5 03.07.27 # you're free to start a new port :) anytime 03.08.02 # jhMikeS, if I had the slightest clue regarding any aspect of porting rockbox... I certainly would :) 03.08.46 # I'm rather sure someone will port it eventually... the m5 is just an x5 without usb host and color display (hence no video) 03.09.06 # well if you have the time and inclination I suppose it's possible to get one. 03.09.07 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 03.09.37 # yeah the inclination somewhat, the time less so 03.10.01 # but the skill/knowledge would be quite difficult 03.11.26 # It's coldfire I take it? 03.11.42 # yes 03.11.44 # afaik 03.12.48 # flash or HD? 03.13.40 # hd 03.13.57 # 20gb 03.14.11 # 1.8 grayscale lcd 03.15.22 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 03.16.41 # hmmm...looks like a skinny gray x5 03.17.19 # yep 03.18.25 # simplified version of the x5 03.19.27 # oh... no FM 03.20.01 # Time to take it apart and compare the bits to the x5. Make PCB scans and so forth and post it. Take the chip numbers down too and find whatever datasheets you can. 03.21.24 # hrm... 03.21.40 # good thing I just bought a set of jewelers screwdrivers :) 03.21.41 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.22.17 # jhMikeS, it's rumored someone has already done pcb scans and posted on the forum... I can't find them though 03.22.22 # I've never started a port on anything yet. It would be interesting and challenging to do it for a device you don't even own. 03.24.09 # heh 03.24.15 # almost impossible I think 03.24.25 # The message on the iAudio page is that no has started an m3 or m5 port yet but that was like march 03.24.36 # though this would be the easiest port I'm guessing 03.24.48 # in april there was a tiny discussion 03.25.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-04/0185.shtml 03.25.07 # though I can't follow the thread 03.25.16 # the mail archive seems a bit messy 03.25.28 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.25.30 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.26.11 # seems like Wilmer van der Gaast was going to start it... but got busy or something 03.28.51 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 03.29.27 # way back in april...about the time I first became aware of RB 03.30.20 # yeah, april, him and RaeNye were getting started... this was before the x5 port though iiuc 03.31.03 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.31.42 # There aren't many x5 owners around it seems much less m5 owners 03.31.53 # isn't he bitlbee? 03.31.59 # yep 03.32.08 # funny how people i have heard about all over the oss community have some hand in rockbox :) 03.32.19 # it's a fun project 03.32.40 # it is 03.32.47 # It's software written for something you're not supposed to write software for...has a nice rebellious streak if you ask me. 03.33.27 # yeah... the m5 is pretty great as it is... but I can't resist installing something "else" on it :P 03.33.49 # Cowon fw is pretty nasty and slow 03.34.31 # Don't know about m5 though 03.34.39 # hmm... I don't think it's too bad but playing with rb on the nano definitely make me want it on the m5 03.36.06 # Wanting gapless playback was what led me here...kept searching the iAudio forums for any mention that they would do it but then someone said to check out rockbox and now I'm in deep :) 03.37.02 # gapless would be nice, id3 browsing would be nice, better playlists would be nice 03.37.42 # oh well... in due time it will happen I'm sure 03.37.54 # i came for the ogg, i stayed for the hooray it doesn't suck 03.38.14 # If there's a developer with an M5. Noone else said they had one. 03.38.17 # iaudio has good file format support 03.39.09 # Not much compared to rockbox though. RB supports stuff I've never even seen. 03.39.42 Quit Paprica (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.41.14 # no doubt rb would be better 03.41.49 Part pixelma 03.42.06 # hrm... it'd be cheaper for me to buy a dev an m5 than it would to buy an x5 ;) 03.45.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.56 # * jhMikeS is hoping the build system doesn't crash after his commit this time 03.54.41 Quit daurn|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.55.05 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.57.12 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 04.02.12 # * jhMikeS is happy that it worked 04.07.36 # The recording patch? 04.08.55 # * aliask sees the CVS log and realises what's going on... 04.09.50 # aliask: no just a little thing for the lcd 04.10.07 # Ya 04.11.14 # I want to get rid of that "pop" at the same point too. 04.12.19 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.18.47 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.20.56 Join dada [0] (n=dada@p54981EAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.20.58 # http://www.djdada.dl.am RnB/HipHop Songs to Download & Musicclips! check it out ;) 04.22.03 Part dada 04.22.23 Join dada [0] (n=dada@p54981EAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.22.25 # http://www.djdada.dl.am RnB/HipHop Songs to Download & Musicclips! check it out ;) 04.22.44 # hooray spamming 04.24.34 Join saratoga [0] (n=1858f5b5@labb.contactor.se) 04.25.12 Part dada 04.26.44 # i get this error when I try and build for the 3G w/ profiling 04.26.46 # aliask: got the message on your attempt with the recording patch...I replied to the email so I don't know where it ended up 04.27.11 # plugins/doom/doom.elf section .bss is not within region PLUGIN_RAM 04.27.14 # aliask: The progess bar thing is the only thing that suprises me 04.27.19 # aliask: I think the mailing list for the Tracker eats the replies 04.27.29 # *jhMikeS: 04.27.33 # :D 04.27.37 # :P 04.27.48 # I'll put it up on FS then 04.27.53 Join ksure [0] (n=k@ool-44c21fdc.dyn.optonline.net) 04.28.36 # I don't think I should have to have all features in place to commit it...just no major bugs 04.28.55 # I'm looking into the progressbar thing in pcm_record.c 04.29.01 # But no luck so far... 04.29.03 # I'll add the features (like frequency)... 04.29.18 # There shouldn't be one...just peakmeters 04.29.30 # Can you see what I'm talking about? 04.29.39 # ie. Are they on the x5 too? 04.29.52 # no...on x5 this was working quite beautifullly 04.30.02 # I'll see if I can grab a screenshot 04.30.08 # You did a full fw update right? 04.30.31 # The WV codec is slow and yes the codecs boost the CPU as soon as they start. 04.30.41 # I replaced the .codecs and the rockbox.iriver file, is that enough? 04.31.35 # I think so...just make a zip and do it again...reset your settings too 04.31.56 # You patched the latest CVS, no? 04.32.24 # I did increment the configuration version for that 04.32.37 # Yes, I grabbed a clean cvs. 04.34.23 # It turns out it went to 50 between my changing it and someone's update. Now it should be 51 04.35.00 Quit ksure () 04.35.13 # is there someway i can disable trying to build doom? i'm not seeing it in the SOURCE files 04.35.24 # it's in SUBDIRS 04.36.01 # jhMikeS: Clearing the settings and replacing the entire build worked, I just don't know which did it. 04.36.14 # no more progress bar? 04.36.25 # probably the settings 04.37.21 # Aye, well that's the biggest issue with it out of the way. 04.37.44 # Make sure you test all the inputs mic,line,FM Radio 04.38.05 # I don't know if you have SPDIF or not 04.38.14 # H300 doesn't have it, so I can't check. 04.38.22 # But I've checked FM and Mic 04.38.25 # Both work fine. 04.38.31 # cool... 04.38.38 # No line? 04.38.46 # thanks 04.38.53 # odd that there was a problem with doom 04.38.58 # it shouldn't even be built on the 3G 04.39.31 # Just went and fetched my line in cable, I'll check it now. 04.40.58 Quit snowgoon () 04.42.30 # Line in works fine. 04.43.12 # This patch is excellent though, now I can leave my mp3 player on overnight recording radio shows and not worry about disk space. 04.44.48 # o.o 04.44.49 # go ahead and give it workout 04.45.15 # lostlogic, hey right-on with your thoughts on "control" :) 04.48.14 # * jhMikeS is very controlling 04.49.18 # * aliask lunches 04.49.35 # aliask: be sure to leave a good comment there after lunch :) 04.51.10 # * jhMikeS goes to shower and rejoin the "ranks" of human-like scent. *not THAT bad really* 04.58.33 Join Drkepilogue [0] (n=46e79903@labb.contactor.se) 04.58.34 Quit jaebird (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.58.40 # hey ppls 04.59.05 # just wonder, what kind of work and info will it need to make rockbox compatable with the ipod remore(4g ones) 05.01.15 # what does this line actually do in codec.c: 05.01.17 # #define sim_codec_close(x) 05.03.55 # nevermind, i guess it would just remove that function call from the code 05.12.45 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.13.18 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.15.42 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@38.96.210.3) 05.16.21 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 05.16.55 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.20.17 Join michaelconner [0] (n=430994e8@labb.contactor.se) 05.21.18 # hi 05.21.33 # got a question re: the button remapping thing that's been going on in cvs... is this something that an end user would notice or is it just re-written code? 05.21.59 # Both, but mostly re-written code. 05.23.09 # i've been playing around with my first new cvs build in a couple of months (5g ipod) -- didn't notice anything immediately different. maybe it'll surprise me. 05.24.35 # MUST.... TERMINATE..... Sarah, no, michaelconner 05.24.45 # heheh 05.25.44 # cool... keep up the good work, folks... 05.25.49 Quit michaelconner ("CGI:IRC") 05.29.06 # on the main page, it said something about the first attempt on quickstart 05.29.19 # does that mean booting up RB quickier?? 05.29.46 # 'cause it is SO slow now. 05.29.59 # ... 05.30.05 # im nto saying it is slow... 05.31.21 # im just not sure about its funtion 05.31.23 # Drkepilogue: not quite sure myself, but if you notice, the change was made to the manual 05.32.07 # hmm 05.32.12 # didnt notice that 05.32.23 # Drkepilogue: check the diff 05.35.47 # ok 05.35.47 # i see 05.35.51 # not sure what changed... 05.35.53 # but eh... 05.36.13 # can u help em on this tho, saw i want to get a code started for ipod remote support 05.36.18 # how would i go attempt this 05.37.14 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 05.37.47 # hey paul, u there? 05.38.26 # No, he has his IRC client automated to log in at this time. 05.38.31 # o 05.38.33 # xd 05.38.36 # :-P 05.38.36 # xD 05.38.40 # rawr 05.38.56 # this some sorta suto respond thing now? 05.39.20 # Of course. 05.39.29 # ah ic ic 05.39.36 # owells 05.39.40 # ill ask quetion at a later time 05.39.52 # I have created a complex series of scripts to pick up key words such as "auto" and combinations such as "ipod" and "not" and "work" and respond with generic replies that sound somewhat like me. 05.40.08 # u sure have alot of time on yur hands... 05.40.12 Quit ryanpg_ (Remote closed the connection) 05.40.13 # And that reference the general urls to the manual and wiki. 05.40.30 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.41.24 # That would be really strange if he believed that... 05.42.50 # Hehehe 05.43.26 # :D 05.45.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.54.23 # Paul_The_Nerd, here's one that your script could have taken care of: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6128.0 05.57.21 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.57.40 # Hehehe 05.58.10 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 05.58.55 # Febs / Paul_The_Nerd: did one of you move a post into the old general forums? 05.59.48 # It may have been me 05.59.49 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.00.20 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 06.00.26 # scorche: It should be fixed 06.00.34 # it is 06.01.39 # It was me. 06.01.58 # So I just got a PM from the author of the thread I linked to above asking "in what way does my subject have nothing to do with Rockbox?" 06.02.36 # heh...in what way *does* it? 06.03.07 # Well, he's added that he has Rockbox installed now. 06.04.02 # * Paul_The_Nerd has now answered his question successfully. 06.05.15 # Something tells me he won't like the answer. 06.07.37 # Well, that's what he gets for saying he knew how to fix it in Apple OS. :) 06.08.13 # :) 06.08.36 # lol...nice answer 06.08.42 # It's truthful. 06.08.46 # i know 06.08.50 # which makes it all the better 06.09.53 # Paul_The_Nerd: curious, what kind of phone *do* you have? 06.10.46 # scorche: Cingular 2125, also known as the HTC Faraday 06.10.59 # I think I'm going to change my signature to say something like, "Please explain your problem clearly. My crystal ball is broken." 06.11.06 # * Paul_The_Nerd grins 06.11.42 # scorche: It was kinda a desperation purchase. It cost a bit more than I wanted to pay for just a phone, but I needed one that day, I needed one that isn't a clamshell design, and my choices were that, or pay a little MORE for a phone without the PDA functions, but with iTunes instead. 06.12.07 # ick...rckr? 06.12.13 # or v3? 06.12.35 # PDA functions on a phone are quite nice though 06.12.52 # i used to hate carrying a phone around and my T3 06.13.14 # The combination of PDA and phone is essential for me. 06.13.25 # same 06.13.35 # i ended up sitting on my T3 06.13.54 # and the same time, i believe my wallet emitted some sound 06.14.05 # Well, I used to use an old HP Jornada 568. 06.14.41 # Back before the HP/Compaq stuff. 06.14.46 # but, recently, someone i know was getting a new phone, so i was able to get a new phone (his was broken, so i warranty-ed it), and so i now have a treo 650\ 06.15.02 # i would much rather have a different pda/phone, but you cant argue with free 06.15.14 # My wallet screamed in pain the day I dropped my Treo on the pavement and cracked the LCD. 06.15.14 # Free is certainly an acceptable price. 06.15.40 # Ouch 06.15.50 # yeah..i got my T3 when it was $400 06.15.57 # and the top model 06.16.28 # should have gotten it at CompUSA...their extra warranty covers the screen and accidental damage 06.17.26 # I found a service plan at Franklin Covey that covers screen damage. 06.17.41 # handy thing to have.. 06.18.45 # i am loving the treo though....sooooo much better than a cheap audiovox phone that verizon had for free when signing up for a new plan 06.19.14 Quit sandoaway ("blargh") 06.22.21 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.28.06 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 06.33.37 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.34.17 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.41.16 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.43.02 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 06.52.13 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.58.23 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 07.01.34 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.08.10 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 07.08.27 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 07.10.27 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.26.05 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzz?") 07.26.06 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.31.43 Part jhMikeS 07.33.28 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 07.39.21 Join bbroke_ [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD4B1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.45.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.45.37 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.47.31 Join Crackerizer [0] (n=3d5a9b0f@labb.contactor.se) 07.50.30 Part Crackerizer 07.50.44 Join Crackerizer [0] (n=3d5a9b0f@labb.contactor.se) 07.51.41 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.51.42 # Hell, I've checked the source. there is nothing wrong. but i still get the lcd-bitmap.c:29: error: `UI_LCD_BGCOLORLIGHT' undeclared error. 07.51.53 # Hello, 07.51.58 # not hell :) 07.54.14 Part Paul_The_Nerd 07.57.42 Quit bbroke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.59.59 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 08.00.02 # Crackerizer: YOu're trying to build the sim? For what target? 08.02.05 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-170-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.03.06 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.06.28 # * amiconn experienced a really strange playback quirk on his H140 :( 08.06.34 Join ootput [0] (n=ootput@tor/regular/five0) 08.06.37 Part ootput 08.06.40 Join ootput [0] (n=ootput@tor/regular/five0) 08.07.07 # does rockbox (in the default setup) consume more battery power than apple's firmware on an ipod mini? 08.07.15 # yes 08.07.28 # amiconn: significantly more? 08.07.43 # Depends a bit though - on the mini g2 it's not that bad 08.08.03 # what's the best way to go about reducing this power consumption? 08.08.10 # Rockbox still needs a lot of codec optimisation for ipod 08.08.19 # oh 08.08.56 # rockbox ipod power 08.09.06 # You can save some power by using other codecs than mp3 08.09.10 # err, ^ @ google window 08.09.20 # yeah, i'm using flac 08.09.35 # flac is one of our most efficient codecs 08.10.16 # But since it has to load from disk more often, battery runtime will never be as good as with a more compressed formats - provided the codec for the latter is also well optimised 08.10.40 # Currently, ogg vorbis is more efficient on ipod than mp3 08.10.52 Join [HO]vo|t [0] (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 08.10.52 # or you could just use a flash based disk 08.11.05 # the iriver products? 08.11.20 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 08.11.54 # <[HO]vo|t> hello is there a known problemon the iAudio x5 where a "joystick right" press is registered as a "joystick center" press, or may it be my hardware? 08.14.29 Join killa909 [0] (n=josephwo@adsl-75-3-195-204.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 08.14.36 # hey gus 08.14.39 # guys 08.14.50 # not particularly 08.15.14 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 08.15.30 # yo any TERMINAL nerds around to help me out? I really need some help in OS X 08.17.03 # really? 08.17.15 # i got so much help here the other day 08.17.24 # thats really disappointing 08.17.42 # Well, among other things, this isn't an OS X support channel. 08.17.55 # right 08.17.59 # your patience is something to be looked up to as well 08.18.05 # lol 08.18.10 # by my clock i waited 2 minutes 08.18.21 # wow...a whole 2 min...impressive 08.18.25 # good points by both 08.18.42 # you know the feeling when something is wrong with your cpu and its just unbearable 08.19.19 # well... 08.19.26 # that would be an understatement of how i feel 08.19.27 # Yeah. It's when I seek support in the proper places, so I can get help quickly that is actually effective. 08.20.00 # Asking for help with OS X in a channel that's dedicated to an MP3 player operating system is like signing onto XBox live and asking random people for tips in the new Zelda game. 08.20.05 # listen Paul, the only thing thats changed on my machine in the last couple days is this 08.20.28 # hm, is it worth saving up for an iriver 320? or should i go with a similar ipod offering? 08.20.42 # or even get a hold of a 120 instead 08.21.00 # ootput: Depends on how much you want the hardware differences. 08.21.15 # killa909: "this" contains no information that tells me what actually changed. 08.21.27 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 08.21.28 # it implies, Rockbox 08.21.32 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@b148115.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 08.22.26 # killa909: Since Rockbox isn't a change you apple to a computer in ANY way, it doesn't imply Rockbox in the slightest. 08.22.36 # apply, rather than apple 08.22.52 # apple isn't completely wrong in this case ;) 08.23.04 # Heh 08.23.23 # alright, vagaries aside, after the installation process I noticed this problem 08.24.04 # regarding volumes on my computer, and some odd invisible representation of them on my hard disk 08.24.16 # not an alias, but a representation 08.25.17 # Again, Rockbox doesn't make any changes to your host system. 08.25.36 # Paul, I realize that 08.25.41 # Unless you, mistakingly made those changes yourself. 08.26.01 # which, I am admitting may very well have possibly happened 08.26.10 # although I find it relatively doubtful 08.26.16 # its still possible 08.26.23 # It's the only thing that could've happened. 08.26.34 # okay 08.26.39 # so, I made a mistake 08.26.55 # cause I cant tell the difference between cd and ls 08.26.57 # sue me 08.27.17 # now I have a problem, and I was hoping that some kind soul MIGHT take a few minutes to go over it with me 08.27.31 # A) You haven't actually explained very clearly at all what the problem is. 08.27.54 # paul, are you offering your services? 08.28.01 # B) Because the problem actually has to do with your operating system, and not Rockbox, even if you caused the problem by making a mistake in the Rockbox install, you're most likely to get good help by going somewhere dedicated to OSX support 08.28.18 # There are *very* few OSX users in here. 08.28.19 # point taken 08.28.26 # and this i know 08.28.29 # Strange, eh? 08.28.36 # but, Im not sure where else to go, honestly 08.28.42 # My whole point all along has been that you're quite unlikely to get good help here, because this isn't where the experts you need are. 08.29.00 # I would suggest trying to come up with an effective way to describe your problem, the googling for appropriate keywords. 08.29.24 # the problem is relatively simple... 08.31.00 # somehow, a ghost folder representing my volumes was created or activated in the cpu's consciousness... so lets say when a program creates a file, like my web browser saving a file, azureus downloading a torrent, etc the files are saved in an invisible folder... 08.31.33 # killa909: http://macosx.com/tech-support/ask/ <-- Maybe here? Claims to be free Mac OS-X tech support. 08.31.46 Join Doomed [0] (n=rich@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 08.31.50 # hey 08.32.09 # killa909: For all intensive purposes, I'd suggest you use OS instead of CPU... 08.32.48 # its, "intents and purposes" point taken... true it is the OS 08.34.10 # As I've said, it's highly unlikely you'll even find an OS X user here at any given point in time. Asking the questions here is just delaying your actually getting an answer from an effective source. 08.34.11 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.34.12 # I really think the nature of the problem is more well suited to a chat type forum, rather than a BBS 08.34.42 # killa909: Well, that's not really up to us, now is it...? 08.34.49 # nope... 08.34.57 # stab in the dark 08.34.58 # i use osx 08.35.01 # osx86 08.35.05 # Again, even if it's more suited to chat, asking in the wrong place isn't going to make the wrong place more suited to answer your question. 08.35.30 # anyway im having trouble updating this source to the latest cbs 08.35.32 # <[HO]vo|t> Paul_The_Nerd you are active in this channel like 24/7 go to bed man :) 08.35.54 # Hahaha 08.35.56 # I was, in fact, given good support in the installation process in this channel 08.36.14 # <[HO]vo|t> killa909 that's because you were installing rockbox, not troubleshooting osx :/ 08.36.18 # osx user trying to put rockbox on ipod ? 08.36.30 # Doomed, no 08.36.31 # Doomed: OSX user who has non-Rockbox problems seeking help. 08.36.38 # lol 08.36.42 # AKA, dont help < 08.36.44 # why come in here? 08.36.49 # okay okay 08.37.13 # Ill say this, last night while frustrated with my computer, playing Chess on the ipod was quite consoling 08.37.24 # I mean, I'm not trying to be mean. 08.37.35 # k so i have this source dl, now im in cgywin but i cant get it to be updated 08.37.41 # But I honestly can't help, and I know many of the other people in here probably can't either, so I'm just trying to direct you to some better ideas. 08.37.50 # Doomed: "can't get it to be updated"? 08.38.08 # to the latest cvs 08.38.24 # alright guys 08.38.26 # goodnight 08.38.32 Part killa909 08.38.48 # Doomed: If you're downloading the source archive, don't you just download the newest one and extract it, and compile there?' 08.38.52 # http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/remartinelli/html/rockbox.html 08.39.32 # We can't support his source. Any reason it may not compile could be something he's changed. 08.39.48 # ok 08.39.56 # As well it would actually be illegal to download from him in the USA 08.40.12 # but i dont need to compile before i update the source right 08.40.14 # why is that? 08.40.27 # Because he's distributing copyrighted arcade ROMs with it. 08.40.44 # lol which? 08.40.47 # Pacman. 08.41.07 # o 08.41.14 # its not listed 08.41.21 # It is included, though. 08.41.27 # in the source too>? 08.41.31 # I don't know. 08.41.35 # I doubt it. 08.41.44 # Doesn't seem like something you'd include with a source-only build. 08.41.47 # Or rather non-build 08.41.55 # yeah 08.41.56 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 08.42.04 # Either way, for problems with his source, contact him. 08.42.13 # but i dont need to compile to update with the cvs correct? 08.42.43 # If you're downloading source, the whole purpose of source is to be compiled. 08.42.49 # yes 08.43.05 # but i want to update it to the latest cvs, since his is a month old 08.43.14 # Oh well. Pretty sure I should have gone to sleep a few hours ago. 08.43.19 # Then apply the same patches he does. 08.43.22 # Goodnight. 08.43.24 Quit sharpe ("Leaving") 08.43.30 # does anyone know how i can find out what files are causing my tagcache building to fail? 08.43.40 # so i guess i cant just combine? 08.44.01 # ghode|afk: how does it fail? 08.44.17 # any particular file shouldn't cause tagcache build to fail 08.44.36 # Doomed: There's not really an easy way, no. 08.44.36 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.44.46 # damn ok 08.44.46 Quit daurn|laptop (Connection reset by peer) 08.45.27 # * Doomed wishes that guy made one giant patch 08.46.00 # it wouldn't help 08.46.09 Part ootput 08.46.10 # why 08.46.31 # if you can't patch his rockboxsource.zip up to cvs, then neither would you be able to patch cvs up to his giant patch 08.46.48 # i get to cvs up -dP 08.46.49 # then nothing 08.47.05 # dunno if im logging in wrong or i have to make that rockbox-devel folder 08.47.10 # Slasheri: looking at the debug menu it gets to file 377 then my player freezes 08.47.14 # that's not normal. normally cvs will give you a failure message when it fails. 08.47.25 # I have to then reboot it (ipod 5g) 08.47.32 # I suggest trying cvs _without_ funky patches and make sure it works normally first 08.47.41 # ghode|afk: ah, so it completely freezes. then the metadata reader has a bug 08.47.49 Quit Crackerizer ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.47.59 # ghode|afk: do you have an iriver player with the remote? 08.48.20 # yes h140 somewhere, dont know where the remote is though :/ 08.48.46 # because with a logf build you could be able to find that file.. or using the simulator 08.48.47 # hm im thinkin im just fking up somewhere 08.48.48 # later 08.49.26 # anyway i can get one for my ipod? 08.54.00 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 08.54.21 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB1365A.ipt.aol.com) 08.55.05 Nick ghode|afk is now known as ghode (n=garudin@87-194-60-156.bethere.co.uk) 08.59.18 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 09.02.32 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.04.38 Part Paul_The_Nerd 09.06.34 Join Crackerizer [0] (i=3d5a9b0f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 09.07.18 Quit Doomed (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.08.23 # Sorry, i'm back. 09.08.23 # amiconn: 3g ipod. 09.08.24 Part Crackerizer 09.08.40 Join Crackerizer [0] (i=3d5a9b0f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8ffd581e0e3acfc6) 09.10.32 # test message. 09.12.30 # Slasheri: Do you have an idea what might cause the following bug? I resumed a playlist, which worked correctly. But a few minutes later playback just stopped, and then resume told me "Nothing to resume" although the playlist did definitely not end for real. 09.12.36 # H140 09.12.50 # amiconn: sorry, i'm back. 09.13.05 # amiconn: i built it for 3g ipod. 09.13.34 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@line-ppp4-89.deshevshe.net) 09.13.45 # Hmm, no 3G sim in the cvs builds. Maybe the UI defines are missing for 3G 09.14.09 # I'll check as soon as my targets builds will finish 09.14.51 # What's the backlight colour of a 3G? White? 09.15.15 # Ah, There is no UI definitions for 3g. 09.15.22 # white, yes. 09.15.52 # Ok, so I'll just copy the colour from the mini build. 09.16.20 # amiconn: when will you commit to the cvs? 09.16.20 # * amiconn ponders replacing the UI bitmaps which are currently made from scans by versions made from the SVGs 09.18.18 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.20.42 Quit midgey34 ("Leaving.") 09.21.01 Join midgey34 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 09.23.19 Quit theli_ua ("quit") 09.25.18 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 09.27.55 # where is the rockbox API page? 09.28.42 Part midkay ("Leaving") 09.28.46 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 09.30.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-164.adsl.forthnet.gr) 09.35.50 # amiconn: hmm, that sounds weird 09.45.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.45.41 Quit XavierGr () 09.49.38 # Slasheri: Hmm, looks like it was my fault. Didn't notice shuffle was enabled (!) 09.52.28 # Weird eh! 09.52.29 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.58.42 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 10.01.48 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.02.54 Join IcroNa [0] (n=IcroNa_C@d199-126-135-222.abhsia.telus.net) 10.03.33 Quit IcroNa (Client Quit) 10.08.15 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 10.09.13 Quit Crackerizer ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 10.12.59 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.10 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.26 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-224-245.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 10.16.25 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 10.21.29 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB1365A.ipt.aol.com) 10.22.03 # Hmm, there is a somewhat serious problem in the action stuff :/ 10.22.56 # get_action() returns the same value (ACTION_NONE), regardless whether an unassociated button was pressed or it returns from a timeout 10.24.05 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.24.08 # So it's impossible to make requests with automatic timeout work properly, at least without tracking time separately. 10.24.25 # I guess the latter is not the intention of the action stuff... 10.26.36 # There's another problem - I can't see an easy way to have plugins add their own contexts. 10.29.30 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.35.29 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 10.38.26 Join Crackerizer [0] (i=3d5a9b0f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 10.38.28 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 10.39.53 Join Massa [0] (n=Massa@85.220.132.199) 10.41.11 # Hi everybody! 10.41.44 # Anybody here who wants to discuss token based WPS parsing? 10.44.39 Join bluebrother [0] (i=ZlvezLGG@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.46.18 Quit aliask ("workwork") 10.47.44 # where is the rockbox api page? 10.47.57 # any reference? 10.48.15 # rockbox.org/api 10.48.18 # j\k 10.48.19 # can't you search the wiki? what exactly are you looking for? 10.49.13 # Crackerizer: There's no single "API page". There's some documentation for developers in the wiki, but otherwise you can either read the source or ask specific questions here. 10.50.18 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.50.41 # linuxstb_: Any luck with the COP yet? 10.54.28 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-164.adsl.forthnet.gr) 10.58.19 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.58.31 # linuxstd_: i'm trying to trace the rockbox's code. it is better to know where a function is. 10.58.49 # evening all 10.58.53 # hi 10.59.03 # JdGordon: australian? 10.59.08 # yup 10.59.14 # yay! 10.59.19 # Somebody here who wants to discuss some problems I have with token based WPS parsing? I need some ideas ;) 11.00.02 # Hi JdGordon - BTW, here it is nearly noon :-p 11.00.27 # ye.. well.. dont look forward to the rest of the day.. nothing special : 11.01.22 # I'm currently working on a whole new WPS parsing concept - actually I made good progress, but now I've some problems with conditionals and tags inside conditionals. 11.01.51 # there is a token based wps patch on FS.. have u seen it? 11.02.25 # There are two, and I looked at both - I used safetydans version as base - but now it changed a lot :) 11.02.47 # :) 11.03.04 # amiconn: I can't get test_gray2 to work. If I run the plugin then press "select" without adjusting the wheel, nothing happens, and I can't exit with menu. If I restart and adjust the wheel a small amount, wait 30 seconds and then press select, nothing happens. 11.03.22 # I need an idea how to store tags inside other tags (conditionals effectively - normally I would use a tree but I don't have the memory for that!? 11.03.43 # why not? 11.04.18 # you cant just point to a spot in an array? 11.04.43 # Currently I just have an array of tokens which are just straight forward. The array has a fixed maximum size. I could change it to be a pointer list - but how do create and delete nodes without memory management? 11.05.37 # So you mean each array element could have a pointer to the next tag? 11.06.01 # ye, either that, or just build a tree of pointers into your array 11.06.16 # which is bassically the same as malloc() anyway, but with a static buffer 11.06.44 # dan_a: No, not yet. 11.07.42 # Or maybe have two arrays - one with the tokens and their data and one which contains just pointers to the first array and represents the logical structure. 11.08.00 # yeah 11.08.24 # Wouldn't it make it again to complicated to understand? One of my goals was to make the WPS parsing more understandable for other developers... 11.08.55 # depends how you did it.. but yes... but no worse than it is now tho? 11.09.05 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@dxb-b126552.alshamil.net.ae) 11.09.40 # I hope not :) - at least it will be much much easier to implement new tags. 11.11.02 # well then thats good isnt it? 11.11.05 # I currently use an array of a fixed structure with all available tags. It contains the tagname, the number of parameters as "normal" tag, the number of parameters as "conditional" and some function pointers for parsing, preload action and loading action. 11.11.41 # Most of the tags use a default parsing function - only a few (e.g. the RTC tag) need their own parsing function. 11.14.39 # Every tag has it's necessary action functions (either only preloading, like "%xl" or only loading, like "%xd" - or maybe both, if needed). The action functions are used to do the "work" of the tag and will be called automatically by the parsing code. 11.15.16 # So I hope adding a new tag means to add a new entry to the "all_tags" array and implement the action functions - that's it! 11.16.04 # sounds good 11.16.36 # rememebr.. if it ends up increasing the binary size.. fudge the results, or dont mention it untill its commited :D 11.16.56 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.18.01 # Of course I will not say anything about the binary size - until I'm sure it's smaller than now (which I doubt) ;) 11.18.12 # :D 11.20.19 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 11.23.15 Quit Crackerizer ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.23.15 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.23.37 # Bagder: you know how you didnt like that dummy item i had in the menu struct? I figured out a way so its usable.. so no more naughty buggers :D 11.23.52 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@host86-133-119-138.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 11.25.50 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCDF8D.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.25.59 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 11.29.20 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@208-110-158-136.customer.csolutions.net) 11.29.26 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 11.29.33 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 11.30.12 # sweet! this works 11.30.22 # we can now exit from any submenu straight back to the wps 11.32.30 # Cool :D 11.33.06 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslc-082-082-130-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.37.29 Join Bger [0] (n=bager@rockbox/developer/Bger) 11.42.40 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 11.43.32 # dan_a: odd... 11.43.37 # * amiconn rechecks the code 11.44.02 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 11.44.19 Quit barrywardell () 11.44.46 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-066-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.44.47 # does anyone know if it is possible to use __VA_ARGS__ but put something between each arg? 11.45.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.45.49 Quit apo (Client Quit) 11.45.58 # JdGordon: I don't think that's possible 11.46.18 # i doubt i t alsoo, but better ask and make sure :p 11.46.24 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-066-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.46.34 # JdGordon: There's a problem that prevents making the shutdown screen on recorder v1 work properly with actions... 11.46.47 # oh? 11.46.49 # Check the log startin 10:22 11.46.54 # *starting 11.47.09 # k 11.47.34 # We need to be able to distinguish between ACTION_NONE and a timeout 11.47.51 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 11.47.54 Quit PaulJam (".") 11.48.09 # oh, yes, Ive been meaning to fix that.. I wanted to change it to ACTION_TIMEOUT and keep ACTION_NONE sepearete.. but keep forgetting 11.48.26 # Addding e.g. ACTION_TIMEOUT should be simple, but it might influence other places. 11.48.32 # That needs checking 11.48.39 # i dont think it will be too difficult.. 11.48.57 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-066-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.49.00 # The other problem is that I can't see how it would be possible to use special contexts in plugins 11.49.01 # I tinhk its just a matter of replacing _NONE with _TIMEOUT on most screens 11.49.32 # Not replacing... both actions can be returned, and need either the same or different handling 11.49.50 Quit Bger (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.50.17 # If I add the changes you suggested, the shutdown screen works for shutdown, but it doesn't disappear automatically if I don't want to shutdown 11.50.35 # the way I statred doing that for plugins was put a whole list of standard lists (one for directions, one for actions), then the plugin would pass an array of these lists in the order it wants them checked and the plugin lib would take care of that.. it worked, but I accidently deleted the fles 11.50.36 # That's where the timeout action is needed 11.51.18 # dan_a: Does scrolling back & forth work in test_gray2? 11.51.45 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 11.54.03 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.55.12 Quit chendo__ (Remote closed the connection) 11.55.27 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-066-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.56.20 Join Xerion [0] (n=Xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 11.56.37 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 11.56.56 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-066-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.57.40 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-55-86.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.00.00 Join Bger [0] (n=bager@rockbox/developer/Bger) 12.00.09 Quit Massa (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.01.50 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 12.09.01 Join Crackerizer [0] (i=3d5a9b0f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 12.09.16 Join Rondom [0] (n=zuzuzuzu@p54AEDD1F.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.09.22 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCF09F.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.09.49 # amiconn: hello, is codes for 3g ipod updated? 12.10.14 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 12.10.16 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.11.03 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.12.23 # amiconn: I'm not quite sure. It seems to, but that might be my imagination 12.12.48 # Scrolling back & forth should change the moving black "block" on the display 12.13.07 # Change the way it moves, that is 12.14.37 # * JdGordon kicks self for being so brilliaant! 12.19.21 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 12.25.32 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.25.48 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.27.15 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 12.27.15 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.27.49 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 12.29.57 Quit Xerion (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 12.33.30 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496591E.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.35.49 # linuxstb_: would you like to have a look at m4a that generates an endless loop inside the metadata parser? 12.38.56 Part Crackerizer 12.39.30 # :'( no one wants to comment on my menu reworking code 12.40.07 Join Crackerizer_b [0] (n=root@58.181.182.204) 12.41.10 # I did copy the UI profile of 4g for 3g ipod, they have the same lcd size. but i dont know about the others. 12.42.49 # and i use the same ui image as 4g. (dumb?, but i dont have a 3g picture.) 12.43.34 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 12.44.27 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.48.13 Nick Crackerizer_b is now known as Crackerizer (n=root@58.181.182.204) 12.49.35 # Slasheri: Sure. There's a patch on the patch tracker which should improve the m4a parsing - it's about time I had a look and committed it. 12.49.39 # linuxstb_: in fact the file works with xine but not with mplayer.. mplayer generates same problem as rockbox: "FATAL: EOF while searching for sequence header." 12.49.47 # ah, that sounds good 12.49.54 # linuxstb_: do you have dcc? 12.50.10 # It's worked in the past... Give it a shot. 12.50.57 # works well :) 12.51.12 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 12.51.25 # I'm jealous of your 210KB/s upload... 12.51.46 # o.o 12.51.49 # 210kb/s 12.51.54 # thats 21* time 12.51.56 # mine 12.52.15 # Slasheri: Works fine in my version of mplayer - which is a very recent SVN version (a week or two old). 12.52.37 # But it does say "MOV: missing data (mdat) chunk! Maybe broken file..." 12.52.43 # interesting.. then i have older version of it 12.53.19 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 12.54.01 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 12.57.20 # amiconn: The block is scrolling very quickly, so I can't tell if it is working or not 12.58.29 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 13.00.52 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 13.01.44 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 13.02.10 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 13.06.45 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 13.08.43 Join belze [0] (i=nifty@dslb-088-073-245-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.14.19 # dan_a: Hmm, odd. The block scrolling very quickly does mean my frequency estimation is quite a bit off. So the grayscale lib's display quality would profit from correcting it. 13.15.07 # I wonder what could be wrong with the buttons - the plugin is even hard-codec for ipods. No CONFIG_KEYPAD checks at all 13.15.58 # You said it might lock up if I scrolled too far - could it be locking up because of the frequency estimation being too far out? 13.17.41 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 13.17.54 Nick dan_a is now known as dan_a_away (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 13.19.18 # I doubt it. In that case, the grayscale plugins should also lock up. They use half the frequency - but update the whole screen, while test_gray2 only updates 1/4 of the screen 13.19.37 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.21.01 Join Rudy4Pez [0] (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 13.29.45 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 13.31.31 # yoyoyoyo 13.31.54 # yoyoyoyo wassupwassupwassup 13.32.08 # hahaha 13.32.18 # lolololol 13.32.54 # kekekekeke 13.37.38 # Hmm, does doom work in the sim for anyone? 13.37.48 # It doesn't want to start here at all 13.37.59 # Tried both X5 and H120 13.38.01 # sims 13.39.48 # I'm sure it worked in the past for me.. Try a colour ipod or H300 sim. 13.40.31 # In fact, it must have worked - I'm sure I implemented the sim version of the "doom tick". 13.42.10 # Yes, I know that it has worked in the past. 13.42.28 # It also worked in cygwin, which does now fail 13.42.56 # Running in gdb displays: 13.42.57 # warning: LDR: LdrRelocateImageWithBias() failed 0xc000007b 13.43.03 # amiconn: sims don't work at all for me 13.43.16 # ...and some other addresses when I try to run doom 13.43.29 # preglow: oh? 13.45.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.45.33 # doom is the largest simulator plugin by far. >1MB 13.46.06 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d02v-89-83-252-238.d4.club-internet.fr) 13.47.39 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-030-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.47.42 # Hi. 13.49.27 # hi rretzbach 13.49.58 # Can you please tell me how do I check, whether my rb version is up-to-date? 13.50.32 # cvs update 13.50.54 # rretzbach: rockbox is updated all the time 13.51.28 Quit PaulJam (".") 13.51.52 # Is it easy to compile rb in win32? 13.52.15 # amiconn: sdl sound problems 13.52.26 # which i'm unable to understand 13.52.35 # sdl sound works just fine here, but not in the rockbox sim 13.52.44 # Then it should still work w/o sound 13.53.05 # nope 13.53.12 # it hangs whenever something sound happens 13.53.18 # sdl and the various linux sound implementations are a mess 13.53.25 # it's got nothing to do with that 13.53.32 # sdl sound works, as i said 13.53.34 # I had to experiment for quite a while until I got it working 13.53.34 # just not with the sim 13.54.04 # (and I have no gnome system sounds now - not that important though) 13.55.03 # first thing i do is switch those off anyway 13.55.04 # i hate system sounds 13.56.13 Quit Rondom ("bbl") 13.59.08 Quit karim ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.00.09 # I agree with preglow on that 14.00.20 # system sounds are very annoying at times 14.00.55 # Annoying or not - it should be possible to make them work together with other sound output 14.01.35 # ...but the Linux way of having a dozen different, incompatible techniques to do the same things seems to get in the way 14.03.51 Join Rondom [0] (n=zuzuzuzu@p54AEDD1F.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.04.53 # I agree with amiconn on that. Linux on sound just suck a little bit 14.06.12 # it does indeed 14.06.24 # everything but alsa and jack should just be thrown away 14.06.43 # and that's pretty much what's happening, so lucky us 14.07.12 # but it's not really a problem, if you've got a well set up distro, things should just work 14.07.14 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.07.26 # Well, if alsa were capable of serving more than one sound source at once, it would be okay 14.07.41 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 14.07.59 # amiconn: it can 14.08.15 # Mikachu: It definitely can't do that here 14.08.28 # ...on 2 different systems 14.08.36 # but you either need a) a soundcard capable of hardware mixing and alsa driver support or b) not use the oss interface (ie /dev/dsp) 14.09.13 Join zuzuzuzuzuzu_ [0] (n=zuzuzuzu@p54AEDABA.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.09.25 # amiconn: it can here 14.09.26 # easily 14.09.28 # it's driver dependant 14.09.33 # I have set up sdl to use alsa. That works - until I enable gnome's esd (which afaik also uses alsa) 14.09.39 # amiconn: and if you use the plughw outputs, it does mixing in software as well 14.09.45 # how to build .rockbox directory? or i need to create it manually? 14.10.04 # amiconn: that's not really any different from what windows does 14.10.10 # it's also driver dependent 14.10.14 # It is different from windows 14.10.23 # no, it's not 14.10.33 # I never encountered problems with playing several sounds at once on windows 14.10.36 # using some sound cards, i can't use the same interface in windows 14.10.39 # no, YOU didn't 14.10.39 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.10.40 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.10.52 # i also have no problems with multiple apps using alsa 14.11.03 # How do you set that up?? 14.11.09 # use a soundblaster live 14.11.13 # and it works out of the box 14.11.25 # I've seen dozens of windows systems with all kinds of sound hardware 14.11.27 # i think dmix should also work out of the box, but since i have an sblive i haven't checked 14.11.28 # also, like i said, if you use the plughw: outputs of alsa, it'll mix in software 14.12.04 # Why isn't it set up that way out of the box? 14.12.16 # it's up to the applications what they use 14.12.20 # and the app codecs are torn, it seems 14.12.26 # some software uses plughw by default, some hw 14.12.53 # it's very nice, if you ask me. this way the user himself gets to choose whether to use the quick or the slow sound card interface 14.12.57 # can't you specify the default in .asoundrc? 14.13.02 # Mikachu: maybe 14.13.15 # s/app codecs/app coders/, btw 14.14.45 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB1365A.ipt.aol.com) 14.16.48 # can uisimulator run on linux? does it need fat file system? 14.18.03 # i just built it successful. i put the .rockbox folder to where rockboxui is. but rockboxui shows there is no .rockbox folder.. 14.18.23 # The simulated root is the archos/ directory 14.18.26 # Crackerizer: put it in the archos subfolde 14.18.27 # Crackerizer: unzip rockbox.zip into archos( 14.18.30 # archos/ 14.18.35 # ok, you probably got the point now 14.18.37 # And you don't need to create .rockbox manually, just 'make install' 14.18.53 # * preglow didn't know about make install 14.18.59 # thank you. 14.22.18 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 14.23.40 Quit Rondom (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.23.45 # preglow: 'make install' is just 'make fullzip' followed by unzipping to archos/ 14.24.12 # yay 14.24.19 # nes emulation at its best 14.24.36 # :'( bloody 1100 bytes 14.25.31 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.25.36 # hrmpf 14.25.55 # The H300 sim crashes on linux when it wants to output voice 14.26.27 Quit XavierGr () 14.29.55 # tucoz: around? 14.30.01 # yep 14.30.37 # It's mpa.codec that segfaults.... also when trying to play mp3 tracks 14.31.27 # Strangely it works on cygwin 14.31.40 # there's a bug in mpa.codec still for 64 bit systems 14.31.46 # at least i haven't fixed it 14.32.06 # That's probably the cause then 14.32.50 # i haven't even found it, actually 14.32.56 # it was a bit elusive 14.33.13 # It segfaults in synth_full, synth.c line 998 14.37.29 # it does? i didn't get that clear a message 14.40.12 # Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 14.40.12 # [Switching to Thread 1166059872 (LWP 2700)] 14.40.12 # 0x00002aaaaac18ea0 in synth_full (synth=0x2aaaaad2e880, frame=0x2aaaaad32740, 14.40.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn 14.40.12 # nch=1, ns=36) at synth.c:998 14.40.12 # 998 pcm[-sb] = SHIFT(MLZ(hi, lo)); 14.44.30 # i hope that's a gcc bug 14.44.34 # what type is sb? 14.44.42 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.44.42 # * preglow remebers he can check himself :> 14.45.01 # as i thought 14.45.04 # it's an unsigned int 14.45.11 # that'll break on 64 bit systems 14.45.24 # can you have negative stuff in []? 14.45.27 # sure 14.45.36 # problem is, that's not negative on 64 bit systems 14.45.40 # it's very positive 14.45.44 # i see 14.46.05 # That's no gcc bug then 14.46.25 # nope 14.46.30 # doom seems to have a similar problem 14.46.42 # It freezes on 64bit linux, but works on 32bit linux 14.48.27 # preglow: Shouldn't it work if it's first cast to int (or long) and then negated? 14.48.50 # probably 14.48.54 # better would be to alter the type 14.49.02 # make it signed, if possible, or an unsigned long if not 14.49.08 # Hmm, maybe not if the number is supposed to be negative before negating 14.50.15 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 14.52.04 # It seems to only ever run from 15 to 0, so int should be ok 14.54.07 # Now it crashes at a different point... 14.54.20 # that kind of 64 bit bug is my favourite 14.54.23 # i see it all the time 14.55.14 Quit mortal (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.55.26 # Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 14.55.27 # [Switching to Thread 1166059872 (LWP 4334)] 14.55.27 # 0x00002aaaaac12336 in mad_frame_decode (frame=0x2aaaaad32740, 14.55.27 # stream=0x2aaaaad326c0) at frame.c:451 14.55.27 # 451 if (decoder_table[frame->header.layer - 1](stream, frame) == -1) { 14.56.19 # these bugs should probably be reported to the libmad author as well 14.56.24 # if no one has already 14.59.23 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@dxb-as5535.alshamil.net.ae) 15.01.03 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h8n8c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 15.01.32 Quit apo (Remote closed the connection) 15.03.27 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54930739.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.03.50 # preglow: Same kind of mistake, only less obvious.... 15.04.40 # Hmm, not really 15.04.59 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-066-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.05.24 # print frame.header->layer 15.05.35 # $1 = 3319614278 15.07.48 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 15.12.43 Quit ghode () 15.16.33 Part zuzuzuzuzuzu_ ("Ex-Chat") 15.22.43 Join kagaku [0] (i=[U2FsdGV@e2.7b.5646.static.theplanet.com) 15.35.20 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-224-245.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 15.36.03 Quit chendo (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.37.34 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-55-86.dyn.iinet.net.au) 15.45.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.45.24 Join ranunculoid [0] (n=eamon@83.147.152.42) 15.46.13 # What exactly is the "boost ratio" in the audio thread? Do lower values here mean less cpu usage? 15.46.14 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCD1FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.46.20 # yes 15.46.38 Quit midgey34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.47.13 Quit Crackerizer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.47.22 Join Crackerizer [0] (n=root@58.181.181.126) 15.47.31 # Basically the processor alternates between boosted and unboosted, and the ratio represents what percentage of the time it's having to stay boosted. 15.48.51 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p54933C96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.49.14 Join midgey34 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 15.51.14 Quit midgey34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.51.54 # _ARRRRRGGHGHGG_ 15.52.20 # Hmm. It's the sound what makes doom hang on X5. With sound disabled it works 15.52.46 # linux just _HUNG_ 15.52.47 # very pretty 15.53.13 Join midgey34 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 15.53.20 # oh no, doomsday is here 15.53.50 # Thanks Paul_The_Nerd. Is there an audioscrobbler plugin for rockbox by any chance? (That'd be so cool) 15.54.02 # and worse yet, my complete browser tab history of about twenty tabs _vanished_ 15.54.03 # bagh 15.54.33 # i'm willing to bet it's fucking csound being the idiot 15.54.41 # no nvidia or such? 15.54.59 # hm, does csound run with realtime privs? 15.55.38 # ranunculoid: that would only be possible on a few platforms, as you need a rtc for that 15.56.44 # does it _have_ to know when you played it? 15.56.58 # belze: Which platforms is it possible on and how do I know if I have an rtc :D 15.57.03 # preglow: sysrq ? 15.57.14 # ranunculoid: Does Rockbox display the time in the top-right corner? 15.57.25 # Yup 15.57.26 # Mikachu: yes 15.57.30 # Then you have an RTC. 15.57.43 # real-time clock 15.57.45 # cool 15.57.50 # I think it's just the iriver h1x0 that doesn't. 15.58.09 # speaking of rtc, whatever happened to the calendar plugin? 15.58.23 # linuxstb_: and the Ondio ;) 15.58.35 # And the player 15.58.36 # So does one actually exist or was that just a hypothetical prerequisit? 15.58.49 # ranunculoid: none exists so far 15.58.54 # :( 15.59.05 # that isn't exactly true 15.59.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5166 15.59.57 # oh, sorry then 16.04.32 Quit San () 16.04.47 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.05.48 Quit Crackerizer ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 16.10.21 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.14.11 Join DarthLappy [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 16.20.15 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 16.25.02 Quit ni1s ("Lämnar") 16.25.07 Join ni1s [0] (n=ni1s@1-1-4-36a.dre.sth.bostream.se) 16.28.13 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 16.31.57 Quit [HO]vo|t ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 16.33.18 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.35.03 Part Paul_The_Nerd 16.35.15 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.35.50 Join daurnimator [0] (n=daurnima@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 16.39.51 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 16.45.15 Quit kagaku ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.46.57 Quit bbroke_ ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 16.47.31 Part JdGordon 16.47.42 Join blx [0] (n=x@h17n3c1o1028.bredband.skanova.com) 16.51.03 # Ahahaha, seems I've found the cause for doom hanging with sound on X5 16.51.17 # It is pure luck that it works on iriver. 16.51.20 # " for the battery level, the first enum is used when the level is unknown" - i'm not sure if i understand that correctly. under what circumstances would the batterylevel be unknown? 16.51.43 # The coldfire has two SRAM blocks, only one of which is DMA capable. 16.52.24 # The MCF5249 (irivers) has 64KB (DMA) + 32KB (non-DMA), split into 48KB for core and 48KB for plugin usage. 16.52.40 # Result: The first 16KB of plugin IRAM is DMA capable, the rest is not 16.53.14 # But the SCF5250 has 64KB (DMA) + 64KB (non-DMA), split into 80KB for core and 48KB for plugin usage 16.53.28 # Result: all plugin IRAM is incapable of DMA 16.53.48 # Now doom places the sound 'mixbuffer' in IRAM - and sound playback uses DMA... 16.53.48 # pauljam: don't ask me, battery_level can apparantly return -1 sometimes... :p 16.53.58 # maybe for the sim? 16.54.11 # or new ports where battery reading isn't implemented, like ipods 3 months ago 16.55.55 # * amiconn prepares to prove his theory 16.58.13 # I can't understand that either (about the first enum of battery level) 16.58.19 # so then i guess i can savely ignore the first enum and leave it blank. thanks. 16.58.29 # It appears it can actually only be -1 very early on (or not yet implemented). The -1 check was present before in the WPS code, so I just moved it to a better place. 16.58.30 Quit jaebird (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.59.04 # It used to be -1 for the first minute after boot, in order to let the battery level readout stabilise before displaying it 17.00.08 # * amiconn would like to split IRAM differently on X5 than it is now 17.00.31 # But now, after that commit, battery indicatiors in WPS have changed behavior 17.01.06 # A little, yes. They show a bit too high, but it's not that bad, is it? 17.01.11 # And it is easy to fix. 17.02.11 # Yay! My theory was correct! :-) 17.03.45 # Well, I don't think it's good idea to the let the user know that he has "enough" battery while this is not the case... 17.03.50 # amiconn: good catch 17.05.17 Join karim [0] (n=karim@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) 17.05.23 # hello 17.05.35 Quit chendo (Remote closed the connection) 17.05.45 # Lear: Can this be fixed to the old behavior easily? 17.06.52 # Well, yes, but the old wasn't really correct either. If the level was -1, the wps would show full battery... 17.07.22 # karim: hi 17.07.35 # are you mirak? 17.08.39 # yes 17.08.45 # Oops, just realized it will handle the -1 case incorrectly... :) 17.08.57 # Genre9mp3: i guess you only have to replace every occurance of "%?bl<" with "%?bl<|" in every wps. 17.09.02 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-55-86.dyn.iinet.net.au) 17.09.56 # Or add a proper image... 17.10.13 # PaulJam: Do you think that altering all these wps is a good idea for the users? 17.10.20 # (No, it will be handled correctly, but in the "wrong" way... :) ) 17.11.34 # Genre9mp3: i think at least the wps that are in cvs should be adapted to the new syntax. 17.12.43 # Most of the wps represent the battery with 4 steps. Now you get 1 out of 4 even at 1% while before you would get none out of 4 17.12.54 # PaulJam: And what about other wps? 17.13.39 # I mean it would be better if we could avoid this... 17.14.09 # If there's a way to implement this -1 correctly without "break" all the wps 17.14.42 # Not with dynamic enums, no... 17.15.22 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@03-210.netblk-38-96-210.coolaccess.net) 17.15.36 # Btw, before the change, there were actually 6 battery levels... 17.15.58 # Lear: How many battery levels are now? 17.16.24 # as I understand you can have as many as you like 17.16.30 # As many as there are images, minus one. 17.16.54 # ok 17.17.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS should be updated for people to know 17.19.19 # So it's actually %?bl<-1|0|1|2|...|N> now, right? 17.20.51 # Yes. 17.22.32 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.22.40 # And the volume? %?pv<0|1|2|...|N> (there isn't -1 there, right) ? 17.23.33 # Correct. (I'm editing the Wiki right now, btw) 17.24.15 # Lear: Oh... I was asking to change it myself... but yes. It's better you do it. :) 17.25.14 # Lear: while you are editing, you could remove the "A-B (Archos only so far)" from the description of the %mm tag. 17.25.32 # You mean the "archos only" part? 17.25.42 # yes 17.26.00 # Most targets have A-B repeat nowadays, but not all 17.27.16 # oh, i thought all softwarecodec targets have a-b repeat. 17.27.28 # but the wps tags don't distinguish between targets who have that or not 17.28.21 # PaulJam: It depends on the number ov available buttons, not on codec 17.28.31 # Archos recorder was the first to have A-B repeat 17.28.38 # s/ov/of/ 17.29.29 # oh ok it's the last entry... so you could leave it out (for the Ondio) 17.29.57 # in the enum part I mean 17.30.40 Quit Bauermanthorn ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 17.31.16 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-1-179.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.32.27 # Ok, wiki updated, with the "mm" fix. 17.43.09 Quit mantono ("Don't worry, be happy") 17.45.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.46.50 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.46.51 Join sando [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 17.51.26 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 17.57.40 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 17.57.43 Quit apo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.57.48 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-141-166.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.58.09 # so 17.58.14 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-070-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.58.17 # who can port rocbox for me? 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18.58.46 # yes 18.58.51 # it's a seperate download these days 18.58.56 # fonts=big 18.59.12 # and not updated enough to justify a new download every day. 18.59.32 # ah ok. roger 18.59.59 # so fnt files are not out of date ;) 19.00.39 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 19.04.08 Part pixelma 19.05.08 Join BockBilbo [0] (n=BockBilb@eu85-84-43-70.clientes.euskaltel.es) 19.05.23 Quit Massa ("IceChat - it may not be hot but damn it's cool") 19.05.26 # hello 19.06.41 # hi 19.07.12 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 19.09.08 # is there any app for win or linux to build the tag cache from a pc instead of making it with rockbox? 19.09.22 # aqui hay un ejemplo de uso 19.09.22 # http://www.litoweb.net/pfn2/ 19.09.35 # yo lo q he hecho ha sido cambiarle el css 19.09.38 # xa q se adapte a mi web 19.09.52 # la instalacion es sencilla 19.09.54 # BockBilbo - there is no such app, and this is an English only channel 19.10.02 # o my bad.. wrong channel 19.10.03 # :S 19.10.08 # Soap, isnt there? 19.10.53 # mmm Soap and do you think that its possible to do it? 19.11.12 # i think it will be very usefull 19.11.15 # It is possible 19.11.38 # * Genre9mp3 wonders if the simulator can do such a thing 19.11.57 # didn't someone adjust the script for the old TagDb to work with tagcache? 19.12.03 # Genre9mp3: probably 19.12.11 # it is more properly refered to as a UI simulator, is it not Genre9mp3? 19.12.56 # markun - I didn't realize the simulator ran such code, I thought it stoped at interface level stuff. 19.13.13 # Soap: I used it to test some tagcache stuff 19.13.20 # mmm 19.13.21 # ok 19.13.21 # Soap: You can run plugins in the sim as well 19.13.26 # I was wrong! 19.13.27 # so i might do a little script on python 19.13.49 # is tagcache fully documented on the wiki? 19.15.59 # BockBilbo: Are the info here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache enough for you? 19.16.57 # mmm i guess 19.17.03 # i will have to take a look 19.17.22 # ive already made an script to access to the mp3 id3 tags 19.17.29 # so this shouldnt be hard 19.17.29 # That's why I gave you the link ;) 19.18.09 # BockBilbo: So you plan to make that app you asked for? 19.18.39 # i guess 19.18.44 # but like in a month or so 19.18.50 # i have to do some exams before 19.18.51 # ;) 19.19.12 # though, im only going to make it for mp3 files 19.19.25 # Well, best of luck on that then... I guess :P 19.19.28 # :) 19.19.41 # if someone then wants to add some ofther feature, he'll have the code available 19.19.47 # :) 19.19.48 # well 19.19.52 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4E2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.19.52 # im leaving 19.19.56 # thanks! 19.19.57 # bye! 19.20.02 # bye 19.20.16 Quit BockBilbo ("Ex-Chat") 19.21.27 # bah, the seeking algorithm in libflac is braindead, time to come up with a better one... 19.25.13 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@HSE-Toronto-ppp301395.sympatico.ca) 19.26.30 Join Farpenoodle [0] (n=solo84@60.49.99.38) 19.26.44 # rotator: Seeking in FLAC is much easier with seektables... 19.27.07 # i'm have sample-accurate seeking almost done ;) 19.27.19 # s/i'm/i 19.27.28 # BockBilbo: in case you read the log, on june 28. hardeep committed a change to the songdb.pl to support tagcache: " Re-adding songdb.pl with support for tagcache. Works with mp3 and has partial support for ogg." 19.27.55 # i'm adapting the libflac routines to work with out ffmpeg implementation 19.28.43 # the main problem is with files without seektables, the libflac algorithm works, but it's sloooooow 19.30.22 # I wish Josh had just made seektables compulsory in FLAC files... 19.30.42 # Compared to the size of a FLAC file, a 1-second seektable is insignificant. 19.30.47 # it would make things much easier 19.32.35 # right now libflac makes a best guess jump into the file, then traverses frame by frame until it hit the target 19.32.52 # and sometimes the guess is off by hundred of frames 19.33.03 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 19.33.19 # for long files without a seektable, that is 19.33.24 # And doesn't it walk through all the frames individually in order to find the right one? 19.33.48 # yes, which is very slow if it's off by a lot 19.34.01 # IIRC, the sync-bytes that mark a frame header can also appear in the middle of a frame... 19.34.13 # and worse if it's guess overshoots and need to walk backwards 19.34.29 # All these things made be not even attempt to implement seeking outside the seekpoints. 19.34.42 # yep, i already have the frame sync algorithm implemented 19.35.07 # now you can jump to any offset and sync to the next frame 19.35.52 # just a few bugs left then i think i'll have something ready to commit 19.36.58 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 19.37.14 # Wow...730 rockbox users already 19.37.49 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.38.23 # on rasher's map, i take it? 19.38.36 # Is there a way to sort a playlist by filepaths? 19.38.46 # rotator: yes 19.38.47 # haha, the map takes a while to load now 19.39.30 Join Crackerizer [0] (n=root@125.25.55.242) 19.40.30 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.40.35 # i wish there was some way to mask out selected groups 19.40.45 # like only seeing devs, etc 19.40.50 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 19.41.17 # why are there devs listed i've never heard of anyway? :> 19.42.24 # hooray, there are finally users on the map within 100 miles of me! 19.42.49 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 19.44.06 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 19.44.57 Join Angyrmanh10 [0] (i=5438c2e5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 19.44.58 # preglow: wibbix is one of the gigabeat porters 19.45.11 Quit Angyrmanh10 (Client Quit) 19.45.15 Join Angyrmanh10 [0] (i=5438c2e5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c0d7e28e7bed8c23) 19.45.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.46.00 # Hi everybody... Anyone in here who could answer a short WPS related question ?? 19.46.37 Quit Angyrmanh10 (Client Quit) 19.46.40 Join Angyrmanh10 [0] (i=5438c2e5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 19.46.46 Quit Angyrmanh10 (Client Quit) 19.47.11 Join krok123 [0] (n=donotspa@59.94.176.226) 19.48.42 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-66-151.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 19.49.42 Part krok123 19.50.40 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.56.36 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006071912]") 19.57.06 Quit PaulJam (".") 19.58.25 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 19.59.28 # hi 20.00.12 # i'm wondering if i should flash rockbox into RAM 20.02.48 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-68-73-207-97.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 20.06.56 Nick daurn|laptop is now known as daurn|afk (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 20.07.22 # hey 20.07.29 # whats an ATA -71 error? 20.08.07 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.08.43 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.09.22 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCDE46.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.10.39 Join ootput [0] (n=ootput@tor/regular/five0) 20.10.57 # San||Away: "set_multiple_mode() - not RDY" 20.11.00 Quit barrywardell () 20.11.10 # hi guys, how do i navigate the 'save .cfg' screen? I can input/delete chars fine, but how do i save the file itself (ipod mini) 20.11.35 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.11.44 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.11.47 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.11.50 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 20.12.05 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.12.32 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 20.12.39 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.14.06 # San: when do you get that error? 20.14.29 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.14.44 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.17.04 # I love rockbox, tho I just have an ihp 120 it's awesomely great and totally incomparable to the default firmware's features. 20.17.26 # I just wanted to say that :) Thank you. 20.19.02 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.19.02 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.19.45 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-070-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.20.05 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.21.32 # rretzbach: yes, i also use it on an iriver 20.21.46 # This sounds like you got one of the h300 series. 20.22.35 # no, i have the h110 20.22.47 # or as it was called earlier iHP-100 20.23.10 # heh 20.23.11 # Ahh. So it's the same as mine. 20.23.16 # i just bought a 300GB hd for 45 euros :) 20.23.19 # almost 20.23.24 # nice deal 20.23.36 # lex small enough for the mp3 player? ;) 20.23.39 # rretzbach: yeah :p 20.23.50 # it was so cheap so i had to buy it 20.24.00 # it will replace my 60GB IDE maxtor :p 20.24.10 # So your "yeah" was a lie? 20.24.13 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.24.24 # maybe it was 20.24.33 # but s-ata is not connectable to my ipod 20.24.33 # You intentionally manipulated me? 20.24.37 # but my IDE maxtors would be 20.24.42 # something like that 20.24.48 # Tho nice deal. 20.25.09 # But an mp3 player with >=100GB would be nice too 20.25.23 # and it has a guarantee to the year 2010 20.25.28 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.25.32 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.45 # yep 20.25.54 # but 20GBs is enough for my musics 20.26.08 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-070-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.26.10 # I think there will be some development in the next 4 years in the storage device branch. 20.26.18 # lex, same here 20.26.31 # :) 20.26.47 # rretzbach: http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/14/the-300gb-ipod-and-you/ take a look at that ;) 20.26.54 # There is a limit to how many tracks you like simultaneous. 20.27.00 # but you might need a good power source for the hd 20.27.07 # trve 20.27.24 # the hd could suck the ipod so dry in a few minutes 20.28.20 # hrhr 20.29.03 # So beside buying the external iHDD you need an iCrank? 20.30.40 # :P 20.30.45 # yea 20.30.52 # ;) 20.31.09 # and iCable, iBattery, iCase, iTape... 20.31.19 # I just found out, after using rockbox for ~5months how to change themes :\ 20.31.25 # :D 20.31.29 # I just changed the on playing wps :\\\\ 20.31.37 # But there are WHOLE themes. 20.32.08 # Now I have a reason to setup the development env. 20.32.17 # I'll make my own wps. 20.32.34 # You don't need a development environment to make a WPS. 20.32.38 # so do you have an ipod? photo or 4g? 20.32.42 # Febs: Yes. 20.32.45 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 20.32.58 # lex, ihp 120 20.33.04 # setting up the dev enviroment simply for making WPSs is kind of overkill. 20.33.08 # ;o 20.33.18 # Soap: I thought about writing a plugin too. 20.33.46 # But "overkill" hmmm. I think I might learn something by doing so. 20.34.28 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-224-245.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 20.35.32 # And I have colinux already installed. 20.37.03 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.37.10 # hi guys, how do i navigate the 'save .cfg' screen? I can input/delete chars fine, but how do i save the file itself (ipod mini) 20.37.23 Quit Crackerizer ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 20.37.30 Quit ranunculoid (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.38.03 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.38.36 # ah, nvm, hold center button 20.41.32 Join ranunculoid [0] (n=eamon@83.147.152.42) 20.43.37 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 20.43.39 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.43.58 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-057-070-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.44.08 Nick apo is now known as apo`-_- (n=apo@dslb-084-057-070-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.44.41 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@140.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) 20.44.51 Part ootput 20.47.50 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 20.47.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-164.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.48.18 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.49.25 Quit daurn|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.49.38 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.50.00 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 20.53.26 Join vr [0] (n=Vr@cryogenia.devnullteam.org) 20.57.51 Join San [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 21.00.15 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.06.41 Join rr3tzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-030-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.08.23 Quit ranunculoid (Remote closed the connection) 21.10.38 Join old45 [0] (i=42cf004a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 21.12.41 # trying to understand rockbox on my H120, to empty the recycled folder; do I do it on my CP through the USB and windows exploer or can I do it from the player. 21.14.16 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.14.28 Join rre7zbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-030-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.14.38 Join evoGage [0] (n=dave@dyn-62-56-66-116.dslaccess.co.uk) 21.15.26 # I have installed one daily build and I see one hex file in the recycled folder, can I delete the hex file and will the next daily build also move a hex folder to the recycled folder? 21.15.32 # hi people I need help with TagCache 21.16.38 # I think they are all taking a nap 21.17.15 # looks like it or that they are lazy lol 21.17.16 # old45: that hex file (i bet it's the patched iriver fw with the rockbox bootloader) is probably moved to the recycled folder when u've deleted it 21.17.28 # evoGage: ask 21.17.44 Join exec182 [0] (i=acb068be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/unlabeled) 21.17.55 # hy 21.18.41 # i'll explain anyway, I'm having problem with TagCache completing building the libery. It'll like do its job for about 1min and then the iPod'll freeze requireing a reboot 21.19.12 # hey 21.19.16 # (11:07:27) (San) whats an ATA -71 error? 21.19.16 # (11:07:37) (San) i 21.19.17 # (11:07:27) (San) whats an ATA -71 error? 21.19.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK San 21.19.17 # (11:07:37) (San) i 21.19.21 # whats an ATA -71 error? 21.19.27 # i got it while it was connected to USB on the H300 21.19.36 # its about the 3rd time I got it in 2 months I got it 21.21.08 # Bger> do I delete the rechcled files with the CP or with the palyer? I assume anything in there is safe to delete. 21.21.24 # yes 21.21.33 Join Parak [0] (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com) 21.21.33 # San: San||Away: "set_multiple_mode() - not RDY" 21.21.37 # from earlier 21.21.50 # this "Recycled" folder is the recycle bin for this drive 21.22.00 # OK 21.22.38 # I have not figured out how to delete with the player H120 21.22.56 Quit exec182 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.22.57 # I can delete with cofidance in windows 21.23.06 # ty rotator 21.23.45 # San: u're Sanitarium @ MR, yep ? 21.23.55 # yes 21.23.56 # strange that it does not show in windows exploer when I has show all hidden files selected 21.24.33 # San: hm, can u recommend some eye-candy WPS-es for standard (CVS) builds (H3xxx) 21.24.39 # I can see it in windows xp recycle folder alsong with all files I have deleted from my pc 21.24.54 # yeah, sure 21.24.56 # old45: yep, that's normal 21.25.41 # thanks 21.25.41 # you want them now or whenever? 21.25.48 # now :) 21.25.52 # ok 21.26.02 # Artic_Desert is nice 21.26.32 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 21.26.40 # any of the Ajants are good 21.26.56 Quit old45 ("CGI:IRC") 21.27.17 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.27.45 # Green Player 21.28.09 # *GreenNew v1.2 21.28.14 # thats the actual name ^^ 21.28.24 Quit Bg3r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.28.35 # want more? 21.28.43 # searching for these atm :) 21.29.13 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 21.29.33 # i am pinging alot today 21.29.33 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.29.34 # :( 21.29.37 Nick San||Away is now known as San (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 21.29.49 # did you get any of thoes i posted? 21.30.38 Quit evoGage () 21.31.03 # still searching for the first one 21.31.23 # i'll have a look aswell 21.31.36 # wow Bager is in MisticRiver! :D 21.31.40 Quit rr3tzbach (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.32.03 # :P 21.32.12 # http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=452411&postcount=187 21.32.34 # or this is the newer version: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=462254&postcount=192 21.33.05 # San: ty, but it seems this requires the album art patch.. 21.33.28 # oh, ok 21.33.36 # this one doesn't: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=393467&postcount=85 21.34.25 # ty :) 21.34.37 # this one looks good aswell: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=390708&postcount=79 21.35.00 # Bger: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=396431&postcount=93 (Arctic Desert) 21.35.17 # ah, you found it 21.35.18 # :) 21.35.29 # :)) 21.35.39 # this one is beautiful :) 21.36.00 # yeah, I love it 21.36.28 # Genre9mp3: ty too 21.36.44 # I just need to find somewhere which sells 2200mAh batterys and doesn't cost a fortune to ship to Ireland and then I can use it 21.36.47 # :) 21.37.09 # ah, u have problems with your battery too ? 21.37.23 # yeah, only getting 4 hours now 21.37.39 # and to make it worse the charging plug is broken aswell 21.37.40 # mine is slowly dying ... 21.37.42 # the pin in it broke 21.37.46 # ah 21.37.51 # but I have a new one coming 21.38.05 # I have to charge via usb and thats a pain 21.38.15 # i can imagine ... 21.38.45 # i'm waiting for my visa card to buy a battery .. 21.39.25 # you gonna get the 2200mAh? 21.40.22 # yep, but i'll probably go for the NuPower one ... 21.40.35 # or was it newertech 21.40.44 # the iPod one? 21.40.50 # for 29.99? 21.40.50 # yeah 21.40.53 # ah 21.40.59 # i was looking at that too 21.41.14 # but it is30$ to ship it to me 21.41.45 # hm? iirc it's ~ $24 to Bulgaria 21.42.02 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.42.11 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.42.28 # yeah? 21.42.33 # still, I think it is too much 21.42.47 # yep... 21.42.53 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 21.43.00 # there is anoter company 21.43.05 # *another 21.43.29 # hmmm? what company ? 21.43.33 # Cameron Sino i think 21.43.48 # but they dont have prices on their website, IIRC 21.43.59 # http://www.cameronsino.net/ ? 21.44.20 # yes 21.44.53 # http://www.cameronsino.net/mp3-iriver.htm 21.45.10 # yup 21.45.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.46.31 # hm, do you happen to remember whether the 2200 ipod battery fits into the player without removing the blue HDD "protectors" ? 21.46.58 # i think it does 21.47.08 # have a look at Denny's tutorial on MisticRiver 21.47.17 # i'm not sure though 21.48.01 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD4B1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.48.11 # Bger: i replaced mine on the h110 and it fits perfectly, so it should also work on the h3xx 21.48.43 # http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=48052&doy=26m8 21.48.45 # belze: good to hear, 10x 21.48.46 # that looks good 21.49.59 # San: the error you reffered to is at firmware/drivers/ata.c 21.50.53 # lines 1981, 396, 1769 21.51.03 # though I don't understand what it means 21.51.09 # i didn't mess with the code though 21.51.26 # it is an old-ish~ daily build 21.55.22 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.31 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 21.57.06 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 21.57.10 Quit PaulJam (".") 22.00.51 Join daurn|afk [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 22.00.52 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.05.36 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 22.05.37 Quit daurn|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.09.03 Quit markun (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.09.03 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.09.43 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.09.43 NJoin markun [0] (n=markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 22.09.44 Quit markun (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.10.44 Join markun [0] (n=markun@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 22.22.30 Join lodesi_ [0] (n=lds@d02v-89-83-252-238.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.30.52 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.34.47 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEDABA.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.35.23 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 22.35.38 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEDABA.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.35.47 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 22.35.53 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEDABA.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.41.14 Quit webguest83 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.45.36 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-71-146.cust.iol.ie) 22.45.54 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.46.07 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.48.01 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.55.10 Quit Bger (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.57.26 # can't wait to try this project out! 22.58.14 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 23.07.22 Join San [0] (n=San@194.125.52.93) 23.07.52 # hello 23.08.20 # y 23.08.21 # o 23.11.53 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-034-175.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.12.18 # blx: which player do you have? 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