--- Log for 02.09.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 hours and 57 minutes ago 00.01.27 Quit mantono ("gonna install gentoo") 00.06.45 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.10.03 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.17.57 # * barrywardell notices a H10 LCD patch 00.19.18 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.19.24 # i really gotta rework that LCD code. 00.21.46 Join apo` [0] (n=apo@dslb-088-065-070-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.21.46 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.22.40 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 00.24.08 # who can i bribe to get the album art patch into cvs? :-| 00.26.04 # Is anybody using eclipse currently? 00.26.36 # I want to jump out of cygwin before I get too comfortable. 00.26.51 # Davide-NYC: I think mirak is 00.27.33 # mirak: do you know of a good tutorial to get eclipse up and winning on win32 with all the necessary crosscompilers required for Rockbox hacking? 00.27.48 # *running not winning, sorry 00.28.15 Quit muesli|delhi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.28.42 # jhMikeS: thanks for the FM Radio menus in the Sim. 00.29.27 # hmmm. there's no H10 operating system in flyspray 00.29.47 # Davide-NYC: I use eclipse on Linux 00.29.51 Quit apo` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.30.05 # Davide-NYC: but if you use eclipse you must install CDT the C plugin 00.30.19 Join [HO]vo|t [0] (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 00.30.49 Join apo [0] (n=apo@dslb-088-065-070-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.31.28 # mirak: I remember an eclipse/rockbox tutorial somewhere on how to get it all setup, but I can;t seem to find it now. 00.32.00 # I remember it but that's not usefull anymore 00.32.07 # http://www.mcintoshfamily.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rockbox/buildingInEclipse.htm 00.32.12 # I suppose I'll just call it "Another" 00.32.27 # buildin through eclipse is not usefull 00.32.37 # no? 00.32.37 # that's the simpler to just run make from command line 00.32.54 # I'm just not that great with grep yet 00.32.57 # I have configured eclipse to build but I don't even use it 00.33.14 # I just use it to edit code 00.33.22 # and finding things and viewing files is tedious the way I'm doing it now (using ultraedit) 00.33.41 # that's what I mainly want it for, editing and stepping through code 00.33.48 # eclipse is good for that with CDT. you must enable full indexing in cdt 00.34.17 # OK, I try to get it up and running, if I hit a problem and you're still here I'll shout, thanks 00.34.18 # maybe visual c++ is good for that also 00.34.26 # open source please 00.34.28 # ;-) 00.34.37 # We are in the news again: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15698 00.35.40 # * Davide-NYC wishes the H320 had optical i/o or that the H120 had a RTC. 00.36.56 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.37.29 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 00.38.05 Quit alberink ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 00.39.37 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.39.48 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-2-248-191.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 00.41.05 # markun: nice review :) (although it seems that he was using a quite old build ... or wrote it some time ago) 00.42.05 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 00.43.28 # However, I would suggest using the latest optimized builds from www.misticriver.net. <--- pfff :( 00.44.01 # "optimized"! what a confusing word used for these builds.... 00.44.14 Quit Anthraxos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.44.30 Join San [0] (n=San@212.2.172.233) 00.45.50 Join infamis_ [0] (i=4511161b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-97fed4dd4fd8fd55) 00.46.11 # jhMikeS? 00.46.35 Quit alberink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.48.11 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 00.49.51 Quit [HO]vo|t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.09 Quit ender` (" You don't have to think too hard when you talk to teachers. -- J. D. Salinger") 00.55.12 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.56.09 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 00.58.34 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.58.40 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 01.00.11 # what is the recomended text editor for windows to do (silly) unix-style LF only text documents? 01.00.54 # I never understood what the point of a LF was if you didn't return the carriage! 01.01.32 # there's not much point in a carriage return either without a linefeed 01.02.03 # and windows does both. 01.02.09 Quit SanAlmighty (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.02.29 # the right way, IMHO. I'm trying to find a history of LF only now, to see what I am missing. 01.03.42 # notepad2 01.03.47 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-61e4cc201dc506c8) 01.04.01 # it will respect the CR+LF, LF or CR 01.04.04 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.04.10 # that way you won't have a problem 01.04.26 # there are others too 01.04.45 # but I prefer it for its simplicity while combining syntax highlithing 01.04.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.03 # the two things I want, thank you. 01.16.36 # what is lf 01.17.40 # gopp: look in their conversation and find a word that could be condensed into "lf" 01.21.20 # what bugs me, is I swear I had to manually send /both/ CR and LF to the teletypes at DuPont, and this was in Cobol, in Unix, in 198x. But Wikipedia says Unix was always LF only, so I'm missing something somewhere. (probably my mind) (sorry for the offtopic again) 01.22.16 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACAE7F05.ipt.aol.com) 01.22.46 # Soap: Read this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline 01.25.05 # yea 01.25.34 # sorry COBOL 01.25.46 # Davide-NYC,infamis_: I fell asleep for a bit... 01.25.55 Join Febs [0] (n=shortcho@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.26.52 # infamis_, infamis: does it compile for you now? 01.27.32 # Davide-NYC: You're welcome...is there anything else missing (Not that I can't check it :) 01.27.45 # lemme see 01.28.15 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.28.24 Quit ToyKeeper (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.28.40 # I should probably get rid of the sample rate menu until it actually selects sample rates, no? 01.28.43 # uh, the silly little 'musical note' isn;t displayed instead of the sqaure stop icon. I can live with that 01.28.57 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 01.29.04 # Davide-NYC: Did it used to be? 01.29.31 # on the target it is (I believe, let me make fullzip for target with this identical CVS DL) 01.30.06 # When did behavior on iRiver H1x0 series change from not stopping music immediately when holding stop to shut down? With the button action? 01.31.13 # Davide-NYC: If I pause/unpause the radio in the sim it shows up. 01.31.55 Join ToyKeeper [0] (i=spanky@c-24-9-90-246.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 01.32.17 # jhMikeS: cool 01.32.32 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.32.37 # I forgot to select a station first 01.32.40 # :-P 01.34.46 # jhMikeS, sorry I took so long, had to run out....but nope, still the same error. 01.35.19 # I wanna try your suggestion of just building m68k-elf-gcc-3.4.6 from the source under cygwin, but can't find out where to get the source from 01.35.34 # errr: someone tried with version 3.4.5 and it was ok 01.35.43 # not on the gcc site? 01.36.23 # infamis_: amiconn would know since he's got it 01.36.34 # worked on 3.4.5 cygwin? 01.36.45 # not cygwin but gcc 3.4.5 01.36.47 # I went to ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/ and did a google search for m68k-elf-gcc source but no relevant results 01.38.02 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 01.40.17 # http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/coldfire/download.html ?? 01.40.47 # infamis_: There's only one version of the gcc source - you configure it for th target processor before compiling it. 01.41.03 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.41.40 # (and the same for binutils, which you'll need as well). Instructions for compiling are in the CrossCompiler page on the Rockbox wiki. 01.42.22 # lol....I actually did this before 01.42.23 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 01.42.29 # Davide-NYC: what do you need optical for ? 01.42.58 # ...under linux, that is, but since I was under cygwin, I guess I incorrectly assumed everything changes 01.43.45 # for when I can afford a nice preamp, or for digital transfers from dat machine (rare) or for transfers from anything optical. 01.43.48 # linuxstb, jhMikeS; so what's the difference between gcc source & that freescale link? 01.44.14 Join [HO]vo|t [0] (n=gcadidas@cpe-24-93-102-155.columbus.res.rr.com) 01.44.26 # infamis_: It appears to be coldfire only other than that I don't know...I just did some looking myself. 01.45.07 # I'm guessing it's just a custom set of compilation tools based on gcc. 01.46.08 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 01.46.17 # does H120 had an internal mic ? 01.46.20 Join perpleXa [0] (n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa) 01.47.29 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 01.48.08 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 01.48.42 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.48.45 # it would be fun to have Pang game 01.49.20 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 01.50.13 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 01.50.28 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 01.56.23 # I'm going to just show 44.1 kHz in the sample rate menu for now for SWCODEC and enable the mono/stereo setting for UDA1380 (this should have been done but I missed it :) 02.00.42 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 02.07.02 # jhMikeS, I don't need gcc-3.4.6? only gcc-core-3.4.6? 02.10.44 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host105-0.pool80183.interbusiness.it) 02.12.21 # mirak: yes the H120 has an internal mic 02.12.41 # never mind that last q 02.13.04 # make && make install 02.13.09 # wrong win 02.14.30 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 02.18.19 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 02.19.09 Part pixelma 02.19.11 # mirak: OK, I got eclipse 3.2 and CDT 3.1 installed. Now I guess I'll need to find some time and go through the CVS tutorial 02.19.24 # anothing I'm missing? 02.20.08 # will it compile correctly as-is or do I need something else? (sorry if I sound so dumb, but I'm not a real programmer, I just pretend) 02.20.13 # cvs is easy to use with eclipse 02.20.24 # create a new CVS project 02.20.37 # then convert it to standart C projet 02.21.10 # default workspace OK? 02.23.52 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.24.06 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 02.25.32 # default module name should be rockbox-devel? 02.26.05 # oh the sweetness... 02.33.44 # jhMikeS: as: unrecognized option `-mc68020' 02.36.28 # infamis: huh? what are you doing? You'll probably need the assembler as well. I've never build the cross compiler myself. 02.37.16 # Davide-NYC: There should be channel selection and a sample rate menu (w/one item for now) on iRiver 02.37.17 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.37.55 # Much action! 02.38.14 # gonna look at the makefile 02.38.17 # I downloaded gcc-3.4.6, configured with --target=m68k-elf, and made 02.38.34 # I meant "make"d and it's failing on this: 02.39.14 # infamis_: well...it's obviously possible. amiconn is proof of that but I'll try and muddle through it with you. 02.39.29 # ./xgcc -B./ -B/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/bin/ -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/include -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/sys-include -L/usr/src/gcc-3.4.6/build/gcc/../ld -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition-isystem ./include -I. -I. -I../../gcc -I../../gcc/. -I../../gcc/../include -g0 -finhibit-siz 02.39.35 # as: unrecognized option `-mc68020' 02.39.38 # make: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1 02.39.46 # doing what? building rockbox? 02.39.59 # gcc 3.4.6 for m68k-elf under cygwin 02.40.10 # ^ building gcc 3.4.6 ....etc. 02.41.35 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 02.43.22 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.43.37 # infamis_: you went through this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler ? 02.44.04 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 02.44.12 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.44.51 # yup...but I think I found it: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:o__5AnWgAokJ:www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1999-04/msg00522.html+as:+unrecognized+option+%60-mc68020%27&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a 02.44.54 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 02.45.05 # I need cross-binutils 02.45.26 # I though it needed the as 02.45.58 # and...cygwin.com would be conveniently down right now 02.46.12 # :D oh man 02.46.21 # or maybe the version of as I have isn't cross-compilable(don't nkow if that's a word) 02.46.26 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.46.32 # those utilities don't come with it? 02.46.52 # 3.4.6 should be useable on cygwin 02.47.10 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 02.47.23 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 02.47.47 # I have binutils....I'm guessing as is part of that package? 02.47.51 # infamis: You need to compile and install binutils (cross-compiled for m68k) first 02.47.52 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.48.12 Quit secleinteer (Connection reset by peer) 02.48.24 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 02.48.58 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 02.49.15 # yeah....this is beginning to sound like a "sunday" task 02.51.11 # ah! what am I talking about...this is easy right there in the wiki it says it...lol 02.51.44 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.51.58 # infamis_: But it's only Friday...:| 02.52.30 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 02.52.37 # I can wait 2 days ;) 02.52.53 # It'll take three! 02.53.11 # just playing, but yeah I'm building binutils right now (with the correct target)...just that building stuff on cygwin takes forever 02.53.31 # seems only have enough time on sundays 02.53.33 # why are you stuck on cygwin? I don't get it. 02.54.09 # eclipse is crazy, maybe I should learn to crawl before I try to run 02.54.13 # cause I'm on windows...and vm-whatever seems like a whole nother can of worms 02.54.34 # the vmware is really really simple 02.54.52 # It's what I use and it's worth the almost no trouble at all 02.55.20 # 10 times faster easy 02.55.24 # vmware makes my (rather bloated) system a bit unstable. 02.55.40 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.55.42 # you can knock down the memory after installing it 02.55.51 # Proably due to the fact that various versions have been on and off of this install 02.56.01 # I'm installing VMware right now on my new company laptop. I was using cygwin on my old laptop, but I figure since I'm installing from scratch here, might as well try the vmware. 02.56.12 # I think it's a registry disaster issue. Too much junk. 02.56.18 # I had cygwin and am glad I dumped it 02.56.22 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 02.56.26 # * scorche emits a cheer for vmware 02.56.47 Quit Febs ("need to reboot to finish vmware install.") 02.56.47 # i got fed up with cygwin... 02.56.54 # hmm, do we have near concensus? Linux native or VMWare, stay off the cygwin? 02.56.59 # * linuxstb_ hugs Debian 02.57.03 # me too...I'd never get anything done that way 02.57.05 # cygwin is undoubtedly slow, but....for the most part I'm fine with it.... 02.57.11 # * scorche hugs linuxstb_ 02.57.14 # stay off cygwin... 02.57.27 # err... 02.57.30 # but RB fully embraces it on the wiki ;) 02.57.45 # infamis_: If you try vmware and get it to work you ask yourself "why?" 02.57.57 # I can;t do the VMWare until I extricate my raid array from my workstation. 02.57.58 # indeed 02.58.04 # or try linux 02.58.04 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 02.58.19 # vmware *is* linux =P 02.58.27 # what the heck do you download??? http://www.vmware.com/download/ 02.58.38 # I heard qemu works in windows too 02.58.44 # there's a special RB version, no? 02.58.45 # Aren't there supposed to be some tools for cut/paste between linux/windows a vmw? 02.58.56 # Davide-NYC: there is 02.59.09 # infamis_: The instructions are int the wiki page too for setup 02.59.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform 02.59.36 # but yeah...after vmware, i wondered why i used cygwin... 02.59.56 # It just will not play well my (admittedly strange) machine 03.00.01 # :-( 03.00.33 # but I have a tip: in rockbox.vmx set memsize = "32" 03.00.34 # ...vmware ain't free???...forget about it 03.00.37 # it is 03.01.14 # jhMikeS: souldn;t frequency be samplerate? 03.01.23 # all I see are evaluate & buy links on that download page 03.01.32 # Davide-NYC: Eventually :) 03.01.44 # infamis_: work off of the directions on the wiki page 03.01.47 # what do you mean? 03.01.53 # that's what's in the lang files 03.01.54 # never mind, guess I just need vmware player 03.01.57 # and you might want to get that dl started ;) 03.01.58 # vmware player is free like beer, qemu is free like GPL 03.02.13 # haha...free like beer? 03.02.16 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.02.16 # free like beer??? 03.02.23 # ...i wish 03.02.24 # who has free beer??? 03.02.30 # ^what he said 03.02.31 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_beer 03.02.33 # * jhMikeS wants free beer 03.02.35 Join Febs [0] (n=shortcho@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 03.02.46 # * Davide-NYC stupid diet - 200cal per 03.02.58 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 03.03.50 # jhMikeS: since we're going menu crazy, how about separating the encoding type and the bitrate? I think the recording menu is getting a little big. 03.03.52 # Cerveza gratis o cerveza libre <== haha 03.04.16 # maybe we need to rework it to make it a bit more elegant. 03.04.18 # Davide-NYC: That's coming too...but is difficult. It's a relic from the mas codec 03.04.24 # will give it some thought. 03.04.33 # please define mas 03.04.42 # I'm working on what you're talking about now 03.04.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.04.57 # The hardware codec chip in archos players 03.05.07 # * Davide-NYC wonders what I am talking about... 03.05.14 # Got it. 03.05.38 # qq: if I wanted to try to mess with the WRS text formatting, what files should I be looking at? 03.05.49 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.06.16 # I want full config screens for each format...but this is complicated because sample rates and codecs don't always fully agree so the sr selections will have to be different depending on the encoder. 03.06.32 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 03.06.57 # anyone with an x5? 03.07.25 # Some sample rates I'll use the DSP to synthesize starting with say 44100Hz and changing it to 32000Hz for mp3 for example. I can't support 32000Hz with the hw itself. 03.07.36 # fm radio quality seems poor but don't know if it's just me 03.07.37 # does this have to be implented across all platforms? 03.07.37 # infamis_: That's me...x5 03.08.06 # then again I never used it under the original cowon firmware 03.08.13 # Davide-NYC: I'll make it work on all software codec players with recording...yes 03.08.36 # but not on the old archos targets (I'm thinking about UI on tiny screens) 03.09.09 # Davide-NYC: This stuff has nothing to do with archos since archos has a different playback/recording core. 03.10.15 # So...no for those...iRiver and x5 are the only ones with the sw encoders now anyway...maybe iPods will get it too when someone implements recording features there. 03.10.16 # what targets are HW vs SW 03.10.24 Quit solarflare ("Leaving") 03.10.29 # HW = Archos 03.10.31 # is vmware a layer on top of the OS? 03.10.35 # SW = everything else 03.10.50 # infamis_: It's a virtual computer 03.10.57 # You're really running Linux there 03.10.59 # OndioFM = HW? 03.11.01 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.11.01 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.11.02 # yes 03.11.23 # but does it start before the OS or is it something started from within the OS? 03.11.32 # from within 03.11.33 # infamis_: don't ignore my earlier tip or the machine might not start...^^^ 03.11.34 # within the OS in a window 03.11.44 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 03.11.49 Quit secleinteer (Connection reset by peer) 03.11.54 # cool.... 03.12.00 # jhMikeS, about the memory size? 03.12.01 # You just double click the rockbox.vmx file and it starts in a window 03.12.27 # infamis_: yes 03.12.30 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.180) 03.13.20 # Mine wouldn't work right away...I have 256mb and I think it wanted almost all of that...no help on the web either about that. 03.14.02 # If the machine won't start due to memory, you can't get to the memory setting in the player...makes a lot of sense huh? so you gotta edit the file 03.14.40 # I think I'll try it out tomorrow or eventually...wanna see if this cygwin compile works first though 03.14.45 # the rockbox image even has samba for easy filesharing between your computer and the virtual one =D 03.16.11 # vmware doesn't really function as a permanent solution to having linux & windows, just a temporary thing for doing stuff when you only need linux for a while? 03.16.26 # I just use a mapped drive 03.16.30 # or vice versa. 03.17.12 # well, i havent booted into linux (on my main comp) since installing vmware... 03.17.32 # I wish I could run vmware on wine on vmware 03.17.47 # ...why? 03.17.50 # why? 03.17.57 # for the hell of it! :) 03.17.59 # isn't wine another emulator? 03.18.13 # wine is not an emulator 03.18.16 # yes...emulators within emulators... 03.18.18 # or whatever the techinical name is 03.18.22 # =P 03.18.31 # simulator? 03.18.49 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.18.57 # recursive acronym 03.19.07 # (read that somewhere) 03.19.09 # The name 'Wine' derives from the recursive acronym "Wine Is Not an Emulator", although some have used the unofficial expansion "Windows Emulator". While the name sometimes appears in the forms "WINE" and "wine", the project developers have agreed to standardize on the form "Wine". The recursive acronym Wine resembles that of LAME (Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder). 03.19.33 # shouldn;t that be WINAE then? 03.19.55 # many acronyms omit a for and/an/a 03.20.03 # prepositions don't get included 03.20.06 # anybody want to help me figure out what's wrong with my eclipse install? 03.20.23 # or aticles: a, an, the 03.20.24 # Eclipse 3.2 with CDT installed fine 03.20.46 # CVS checkout no problem 03.21.10 # no idea how to configure my makefile or make for that matter 03.21.13 # ;-P 03.21.52 # staring at a gorgeous IDE though. 03.21.52 # tools/configure? 03.21.59 # in eclipse. 03.22.22 # you're trying to build all through the ide? 03.22.36 # I would love to. Is this not possible? 03.23.16 # why do you want an ide? 03.23.29 # brb 03.23.30 # I'd love a rb project for MS Visual C++ 03.24.00 # that's what I do....of course I can't build with it, but for source browsing & symbol lookup, works alright 03.24.33 # mainly just for navigating through the source 03.24.47 # curious....anyone happen to have tried source insight? 03.25.03 # what is it? 03.25.51 # sourceinsight.com 03.26.14 # when i am in windows, i usually use that...i like it 03.27.01 # sad thing is, it isnt free though 03.27.44 # That's not free beer for sure! 03.27.46 # yeah that is very sad for a poor college student like me 03.28.05 # a company i used to work for used it, so i got it for free =) 03.28.17 # but, it is a nice program (at least i think so) 03.28.21 # Just think how drunk you could get with that much money and then not even give a damn about Rockbox anymore. 03.28.42 # kde has a really good development environment thingy.. I forget what it's called. 03.28.51 # well, gcc 3.4.6 doesn't compile.....I give up... 03.29.03 # there *is* a trial version though 03.29.14 # that means there will be a crack... 03.29.31 # but, we dont discuss illegal topics here =) 03.29.32 # /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccD10fYo.s: Assembler messages: 03.29.36 # /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccD10fYo.s:29: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 03.29.45 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.30.14 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 03.30.22 # billytwowilly: KDevelop...it is pretty decent 03.30.34 # but, when i am in linux, well.... <3 vim 03.30.46 # heh. 03.30.55 # so just install vim in cygwin;) 03.31.07 # then you have your ideal development environment in windows too;) 03.31.09 # i have it in vmware =) 03.31.22 # oooh.. inefficient... 03.31.31 # vim is too featured for a text-editor 03.31.40 # i wonder if source insight would work in wine... 03.31.50 # try out kdevelop. 03.31.59 # i have 03.32.04 # my buddy who codes described it as joygasmic. 03.32.24 # if you haven't tried it in the last six months you should probably try it again... I think it gets developed fairly rapidly.. 03.33.00 # i am never in kde anyway (i know that isnt much of an issue, but meh) 03.36.19 # man, I'm so torn. 03.36.25 # oops. wrong channel. 03.38.25 # brb 03.38.28 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.40.49 Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.41.25 # somebody kick me? 03.42.48 Nick infamis_ is now known as infamis (i=4511161b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-97fed4dd4fd8fd55) 03.44.32 # * billytwowilly kicks infamis 03.45.26 # ouch 03.46.08 # * billytwowilly apologizes. 03.46.14 # sorry, couldn't resist.... 03.46.52 # no need to apologize, I needed it for asking dumb questions.... 03.50.04 # well, gcc still doesn't compile.... 03.50.06 # I give up 03.53.04 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.53.35 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 03.53.46 # built binutils for target=m68k-elf, set prefix to /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6; make && make install; export PATH=/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/bin; tried to build gcc with --target=m68k-elf --enable-languages=c....still doesn't work 03.55.10 # /usr/src/gcc-3.4.6/build/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/gcc-3.4.6/build/gcc/ -B/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/bin/ -B/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/lib/ -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/include -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/sys-include -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -g -DIN_LIBGCC 03.55.11 # /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccFEyfBv.s: Assembler messages: 03.55.15 # /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccFEyfBv.s:29: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 03.55.18 # /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccFEyfBv.s:41: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 03.55.25 # make[2]: *** [libgcc/m68040/_fixunsdfsi.o] Error 1 03.55.59 # that's an impressive flood. 03.56.05 # infamis: mind using something like pastebin in the future? 03.56.31 # I think there's a small patch in the wiki under building the cross compiler 03.56.34 # sure if you tell me what I did wrong... 03.57.03 # you pasted a flood of text in a conversational IRC channel, for one... 03.57.27 # hehe... 03.57.44 # That's not bad I've pasted huge long pieces of code a couple times by accident from my clipboard...I'm very careful now. 03.57.46 # Perhaps try building binutils without the --prefix 03.57.53 # http://pastebin.ca/158284 ;) 03.58.19 # You'll need to be root to do that though 03.58.44 # aliask, I'll try that, after that I really give up...cause cygwin takes forever... 03.58.58 # * scorche cheers again for vmware 03.59.11 # lol 03.59.19 # on some cygwin systems, the compilation of the multilibs may fail (...fmovem.l...blabla...illegal operands...). I don't know why this happens, but there is a workaround. After downloading and unpacking the gcc source code, download the patch on the bottom of this page and install it. The patch is made on gcc-3.4.3, but it might work on earlier versions too. 04.01.00 Join DanManners [0] (n=J3susJuL@ool-45766df3.dyn.optonline.net) 04.01.29 # cool, there's a 3.4.6 patch from BarryWardell on aug 10, '06...trying that 04.01.41 # I'm sorry to inturupt the conversations going on, but can someone please give me write-access to rename/delete things? I accidentally didn't hit hide file on the WPS 5G upload page, so now it's visible by everyone, and I need to fix it 04.05.16 # make 04.05.43 # lol that was a lot of text 04.05.47 # sorry! 04.05.51 Join Dunkelschub [0] (n=bazi@74-32-2-134.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net) 04.07.58 # I have a question 04.09.18 # make? 04.09.26 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 04.10.20 # Dunkelschub: Ask 04.10.27 # I'm sorry to inturupt the conversations going on, but can someone please give me write-access to rename/delete things? I accidentally didn't hit hide file on the WPS 5G upload page, so now it's visible by everyone, and I need to fix it 04.10.31 # Does rockbox support Toshiba Gigabeat yet? 04.10.41 # Nope 04.10.55 # k, thanks anyway 04.10.56 # Hopefully soon though, markun and his gang are working pretty hard on it 04.11.10 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.13.15 # bah, the sansa e200 series is better;) 04.13.18 # vmware vmware vmware vmware vmware vmware 04.14.05 # vmware is a nice program. 04.14.24 # * jhMikeS cheers for clonazepam 04.15.25 # debian debian debian 04.15.33 # DanManners: I've made the attachment hidden for you, I don't know how to give you access though, I think you might have to ask the web-admins when they come on later. 04.17.34 # ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu 04.18.22 Ctcp Ping on #rockbox from jhMikeS!n=jethead7@adsl-68-73-204-53.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net 04.18.22 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 04.19.10 # hmm. 04.19.20 # mmhhh 04.19.26 # I'm not sure what you got out of the ctcp ping jhMikeS... 04.19.54 # nothing...just messing with commands to see what they do 04.20.00 # heh. 04.20.06 # I used to use visual irc. hurt my eyes... 04.20.24 # black text on a white background (or the other way around) is where it's at;) 04.20.26 # DanManners, I added you to the wiki users group so you should be able to edit wiki pages now. 04.22.01 # * Febs just noticed that DanManners was already in the twiki users group. 04.22.07 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.22.31 # billytwowilly: I guess you get alerted to pings? Does everyone? Just curious. 04.23.16 # yep.. 04.23.28 # you're pinging me dude... my irc client has to respond... 04.23.43 # anything with ctcp in front of it shows up.. 04.23.50 # you can whois though and I won't see it.. 04.23.54 # everyone got one 04.24.53 # oh.. 04.24.56 # Yours says "Private CTCP VERSION:" with no response 04.25.03 # don't do that, it is super mega lame... 04.25.07 # ok...sorry 04.25.21 # I don't care.. it's just super mega lame... 04.25.29 # acuna matata 04.25.50 # hey now...there's no malicious intent on my part...just experimenting 04.26.05 Join Drkepilogue [0] (i=478df32d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 04.28.34 # BigMac - Have you released your WPS yet? 04.28.52 # jhMikeS: is I want to mess with the "while recording screen" what files should I take a look at 04.28.53 # ? 04.29.03 # recording.c 04.29.20 # apps/recorder/recording.c 04.29.45 # I have an m68k-elf directory 04.30.17 # wow, it's all in that one file huh? 04.30.25 # infamis: so do I...:) 04.30.45 # lol...under my prefix'd /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6 directory 04.31.46 # /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf and it has .bin/ and lib/ 04.32.04 # damn...keep forgetting those slashes makes it an IRC command 04.32.18 # \/ 04.32.23 # / 04.32.42 # infamis -> do ctrl+enter 04.32.52 # infamis: type "/ping #rockbox" 04.32.55 # lol 04.33.11 # don't do it...just kidding 04.33.22 # actionshrimp, must be this webclient...still went to the server instead of the channel 04.33.41 # ah damn 04.33.43 # you said /ping #rockbox, hold on.... 04.34.03 # didn't come up... 04.34.31 # ok...the reason I asked is cause of this: 04.34.36 # infamis: so it compiled right? 04.34.52 # nah...still trying.... 04.35.00 # my prefix (for binutils) was: /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6 04.35.04 # man...you'd be using vmware by now 04.35.22 # depending on your connection... 04.35.49 # that gave me bin/ with m68k-elf-* files in there, for example, m68k-elf-as, -ar, -ld, etc.. 04.36.17 # but inside the [prefix]/m68k-elf I have a bin/ with ar, as, ld, etc... 04.36.17 Quit darkless ("Leaving") 04.36.31 # wiki says to set path to my [prefix]/bin 04.36.52 # it should work as long as it's in your path right? 04.36.53 Join ootput [0] (n=ootput@tor/regular/five0) 04.36.54 # however, if I don't set path to [prefix]/bin:[prefix/m68k-elf/bin], it doesn't compile either 04.37.18 # ....[prefix]/m68k-elf/bin:$PATH I mean 04.37.30 # scorche: true...don't know what he's using 04.38.01 # who me? 04.38.08 # I just have DSL 04.38.22 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]") 04.39.06 # infamis: so do I 04.39.07 # this is my last trial at compiling, then I'm getting drunk 04.40.03 # can you use vmware if you already have linux already installed on a partition? 04.40.10 # there's nothing inside the ar as ld etc.? 04.40.20 # yes 04.41.45 # inside what? come again? 04.42.00 #