--- Log for 21.09.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 19 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.05 Join Rudy4Pez [0] (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 00.00.06 # and no rockboot 00.00.26 Quit klrspz () 00.00.34 # Then you missed step d.1) 00.00.40 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-250-171.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 00.00.50 Part moozooh 00.01.09 # So do d.1) and then e) again. 00.01.22 # ok 00.01.23 # i shall try 00.01.42 Quit bgmrk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.02.08 Nick bgmrk1 is now known as bgmrk (n=little_b@bas1-toronto12-1167878940.dsl.bell.ca) 00.02.10 # there we go 00.02.36 # got my name back 00.10.46 Quit ender` (" I'd have called 112 ... but I was downloading a file...") 00.11.19 # does rockbox build on MacOS 10.4.x? 00.11.42 # yes 00.12.05 # * petur wonders why it takes so long between a button press and the backlight switching on :( 00.12.05 # cool 00.12.15 # speed of light 00.12.26 # hardeep: you need the patch from the tracker to build the sim 00.12.58 # and need to use rockboxdev.sh or darwinports to install the relevant gcc versions 00.13.29 # yes!!! 00.13.33 # hmmm, any reason patch isn't committed to cvs? 00.13.34 # got it working!! 00.13.37 # well the first part 00.13.59 # i'll brb....gotta go mow the lawn :p 00.14.30 # hardeep: the only real issue is that it doesn't make a rockbox.map file because Apple's gcc doesn't support -Map 00.16.55 # that doesn't sound like a serious issue imo :) i'd vote for committing the patch 00.18.29 # petur: I suspect the priority scheduling. The backlight thread needs to receive & process the message 00.18.55 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.57 # Is that with CVS? 00.19.11 # yes 00.19.18 Quit RedBreva (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.19.34 # it takes about 2.5 seconds to respond 00.19.38 Quit obo ("bye") 00.22.46 # hardepp: there's a -M option which outputs to standard output instead of a file. maybe it could use that and be redirected to a file and could work that way, but i'm not familiar enough with makefiles to make it work 00.24.43 Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) 00.25.09 # hey, who reduced recording peakmeter accuracy to every 4th sample? 00.25.24 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 00.29.05 # ok back 00.30.38 # .... 00.31.20 # petur: Ask cvs... 00.31.26 # wat is: top-level (root) folder on your iPod. 00.31.32 # is that just the ipod drive? 00.31.57 # petur: The peak calculation looks rather suspicious 00.33.03 # Ah, no, it's some nice trickery... 00.33.10 # ... 00.33.46 # bgmrk: Yes. 00.33.50 # ok 00.34.11 # so unzip it to that...and then...disconnect ipod 00.34.14 # amiconn: you mean using long* to walk through the samples? 00.34.30 # Dumb Q #6639: is there a tool to get .bmp files back from the data? 00.34.32 Quit khorben ("Leaving") 00.34.59 Join webguest82 [0] (i=917408a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.35.08 # jhMikeS: Yes, rockbox 00.35.22 # Display the data using lcd_bitmap(), and then take a screendump 00.35.59 # amiconn: ok...just sim it...but I need those statubar bitmaps for sample rates...hmmm 00.36.25 # Were they added as .c code then? 00.36.33 # peture: peak calc will be wierder soon 00.37.09 # amiconn: oh...never mind gotta write a plugin or something, no? 00.39.10 # I should write a plugin to browse through all images used in the fw. 00.39.23 Quit rotator () 00.39.30 # linuxstb_: the bitmaps appear to be yes. they're in the icons file. 00.39.57 Join nayanigem [0] (n=me@c-67-166-41-21.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 00.39.59 # Yes, I just noticed. I wonder why they weren't added using the bitmap build system. 00.40.21 # or...I could add a "dump images" function to the debug menu. 00.41.26 # Has anyone had any success getting RB onto a 5.5Gen (80GB) ipod? 00.41.37 # linuxstb_: they need to be totally changed. I need individual digits, a "k" symbol, "M", "WV", "WAV" and the like 00.41.53 # You should ask Mmmm for the original .bmp files. 00.42.21 # well I won't wait around if I can get it done in short order! :) 00.42.29 # weren't the bmps made by Davide_NYC - might be in the forum thread... 00.42.33 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.43.48 # maybe I'll just remake them...and include them in the dist even if not added using the bitmap build system. 00.44.48 # Yes, I'm not sure how best to deal with arrays of bitmaps in the build system... 00.44.50 # If you need digits, just use the sysfont 00.45.24 # amiconn: There was a big todo about the sysfont and the status bar for SWCODEC...room 00.45.27 # The icon bitmap could be strips 00.45.38 # bitmaps, even 00.45.47 # strips? 00.46.14 # Yes, but it's nice to be able to just do icons[i] instead of needing the bitmap_part() function and calculating offsets. 00.46.54 # I think any images should be in the dist even if not built with the bitmap system 00.46.57 # IMHO 00.47.24 # In CVS rather...whatever :) 00.47.50 # Were the icons made using the bitmap build system and then just pasted in? 00.48.04 # No, the bitmap build system is relatively new. 00.49.12 # bmp2rb is old... using it during the build process is not 00.49.13 # ok here's a dumb question 00.49.21 # how in the world do i turn off my ipod? 00.49.35 # Hold play for a few seconds. 00.49.41 # You can use bmp2rb on idividual files then? 00.49.59 # Yes - that's what it was written for. 00.50.10 # doesn't that just put it to sleep? 00.50.21 # In the Apple firmware yes, in Rockbox, no. 00.50.29 # hmmm...since I know the sizes and I have a microsope eyepiece to look at pixles this is easy. 00.50.31 # Apple don't let you turn the ipod off. 00.50.40 # oo well i need to start rockbox.... 00.50.47 # and it says to turn off ipod 00.51.28 Quit webguest82 ("CGI:IRC") 00.51.29 # To turn off eyePod: Wrap in primer cord...detonate 00.51.30 # What says that? 00.51.54 # to bgmrk :) 00.52.03 # "When you next turn the unit on, Rockbox should load." - rockbox manual 00.52.49 # That's wrong for the ipods then... You need to reset it (hold MENU+SELECT for a few seconds). 00.53.11 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-66-42.dslaccess.co.uk) 00.53.14 # does that whipe the ipod? 00.53.22 # or jsut the settings? 00.53.29 # No, it just reboots it. 00.53.33 # ok 00.53.53 # haha ok got it 00.53.54 # ty 00.55.52 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.58.38 # Has anyone had any success getting RB onto a 5.5Gen (80GB) ipod? 00.59.53 # can other fonts be loaded or just the user's font and the system font? 01.03.13 Join newbyx86 [0] (n=newbyx86@ip68-7-14-7.sd.sd.cox.net) 01.03.13 # These are rather like image lists in windows. I guess that's what amiconn means by "strips". 01.03.58 # does anyone know how to decide what number to use for BATTERY_SCALE_FACTOR? 01.03.59 # nayanigem: I don't think so. It's possible there are some hardware changes which will stop working. 01.04.40 # jhMikeS: I think amiconn was suggesting to use a single large bitmap (with the icons arranged in a column), and use lcd_bitmap_part() to display the appropriate icon. 01.05.11 # yes... just that I would arrange the icons in a row instead of a column 01.05.41 # iow: image lists 01.06.19 # but you can't load a third font with contain just a set of needed chars? 01.06.26 # nope 01.06.44 # * amiconn wonders why so many devs want to 'just load' something 01.06.56 # Loading from disk is costly in terms of battery usage 01.08.06 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 01.08.46 # some things might be easier with a font...just a thought 01.10.21 # how do i switch back to normal ipod firmware? 01.13.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 01.13.47 # ty linuxstb_ 01.14.47 # nayanigem: No developer has tried to get it working yet though - so we don't know how much work is needed. Could be trivial, could be hard. 01.15.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.16.02 # cool, I'll wait to sell my 30 :( 01.16.28 # I couldn't get the boot loader for ipodlinux on either 01.16.32 # jhMikeS: Do you know why those icons are only used on SWCODEC? 01.18.28 # i noticed that doom is an option in the plugins...but i can't play it? why did they do this? 01.18.55 # Doom needs WAD files - read the manual or the PluginDoom wiki page. 01.19.10 # ok 01.21.29 # * linuxstb_ wonders why the various icon arrays are identified by size and not meaningful names 01.22.00 Join sh [0] (i=daffef64@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.23.16 Join webguest52 [0] (i=cea2cc06@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.23.36 # hey i have a quesstion 01.24.19 # linuxstb_: space I guess 01.25.04 Join webguest14 [0] (i=cea2cc06@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.25.34 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.34 Quit webguest14 (Client Quit) 01.25.40 # I mean why "bitmap_icons_6x8" and not "bitmap_icons_filetypes" ? 01.25.47 Join webguest84 [0] (i=cea2cc06@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.27.05 # hey does anyone have a sec to answer my ? 01.27.31 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 01.27.35 # Just ask your question and you'll find out if anyone can answer. 01.27.45 # k 01.28.11 # i have an iriver h10 can i dual boot into rockbox and the firmware that came with it 01.28.18 # not yet 01.28.38 # it is a planned feature for the future when we figure out how to do it 01.28.52 # do u have an idea when 01.29.01 # no 01.29.12 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.29.12 # allright cool 01.29.16 # :) 01.29.20 # ooo 01.29.23 # one more thing 01.29.43 # can i play half life on it 01.29.48 # there's no way to tell how long it will take to happen across the right way to get dual boot working 01.30.05 # i can play doom 1 and 2 01.30.26 # there is a half-life mod for doom 01.30.41 # o do u know whre i would get that 01.30.49 # no idea 01.30.56 Quit webguest84 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.31.27 # np 01.31.32 # thank u guys 01.32.52 # linuxstb_: I know know why but they could be "bitmap_icons_filetypes_6x8" to be most descriptive IMO. 01.33.07 # I am looking for info on the MTM809 used in cheap MP3 player/card readers. 01.33.30 # but I suppose you can see the 6x8-ness in the array anyway. :\ 01.33.30 Quit webguest52 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.33.31 # Does [IDC]Dragon still hang around on #rockbox? 01.33.57 # I found a log of him mentioning the MTM809. 01.34.45 # He's here very infrequently. 01.34.57 # Maybe simple image lists should be implemented. Call il_draw(index, x, y) to draw an image 01.35.34 Quit nayanigem () 01.36.32 # barrywardell: Is there a reason why you implemented USB behaviour on H10 to be the exact opposite of all the other targets? 01.36.36 # The il can have a little structure with the cx/cy of the images in the list...so il_draw(il, index, x, y) might make more sensee 01.36.47 Join bgmrk1 [0] (n=little_b@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp120373.qc.sympatico.ca) 01.36.51 # grrr 01.36.57 # amiconn: it seemed to be the most sensible behaviour 01.37.06 # i lost the link to maual... 01.37.07 # Really? 01.37.12 # we don't have usb support 01.37.19 # jhMikeS: I'm not sure if that's need, but the icons definitely need thinking about. 01.37.20 # but the h10 has hardware usb charging 01.37.23 # Most of the time I connect USB because I want to transfer something 01.37.42 # For charging I usually use the charger 01.38.06 # I know that the H10 has USB charging. Several other targets have that as well 01.38.11 # o nvm..got it 01.38.16 # I charge via USB, but very rarely want to listen whilst charging. 01.38.20 # on the H10, connecting the USB with Rockbox running did nothing but show the image since we don't have a proper usb driver 01.38.48 # Rockbox' behaviour is to go into USB mode (or reboot into diskmode on iPod) when USB is plugged, 01.38.48 # linuxstb_: with strips the il_ functions are trivial...really only need il_draw and a structure with the image pointer, cx,cy and maybe number of images. 01.38.57 # unless you hold a button 01.39.30 # jhMikeS: How is that different to an array of bitmaps? 01.39.39 # but on the H10, you have to hold the O button while starting up to get into disk mode 01.39.57 # strips are one bitmap with a buch of equal sized sub images 01.40.05 # Is there no magic string or somesuch like on the ipod? 01.40.10 # which is why it made sense to require O to be held while plugging 01.40.22 # no magic string that I know of 01.41.13 # jhMikeS: Yes, I know. I'm just saying both achieve the same thing - and we can already use arrays of bitmaps with no new code. 01.41.13 Quit sh ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.41.19 # Isn't the 2-d array an array of pointers to arrays of bytes or are they really stored as contiguous bytes? 01.42.19 # Think lcd_framebuffer[][] 01.42.29 # it seems to make the most sense to me anyway... 01.42.36 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.42.58 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181067217.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.45.17 Quit bgmrk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.47.12 Nick bgmrk1 is now known as bgmrk (n=little_b@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp120373.qc.sympatico.ca) 01.47.49 # ok i'm confused again...how do u put rockboy...or rockdoom on? 01.49.41 # Both come installed with Rockbox. Read the manual entries about them. 01.49.47 # (or the wiki pages) 01.50.24 # ...depending on if it currently works on a pecific target... 01.50.36 # s/pecific/specific 01.51.27 # ok i got doom.... 01.51.32 # True, but bgmrk has a 5g - both those plugins work on the 5g. 01.51.41 # :) 01.52.12 # yeah, but i hadnt read his previous comments ;) 01.52.17 # lol 01.52.25 # ok well for the record.....5g...alll up to date 01.53.40 # :) 01.54.41 # is there a way to run rockbox well the ipod is charging? 01.54.51 # my H10 is flashed to UMS mode 01.54.54 # yes 01.54.57 # ok 01.55.07 # so all I do is power on with USB inserted and I get into my drive 01.55.19 # hold menu while inserting the cable (i think) 01.55.25 # .... 01.55.36 # ok i'll look into 01.55.38 # pagefault: hmm. hadn't thought of that situation 01.55.47 # convert your MTP to UMS 01.55.53 # it makes it way easier 01.56.06 # i can't. i have a 20gb 01.56.11 # oh yeah 01.56.17 # I forgot about those models 01.56.19 # stupid iriver 01.56.27 # they need to release a UMS firmware for that 01.56.29 # wooow....barry is old schooling it 01.56.31 # sorry, but i dont have an ipod myself...i was hoping other people would chirp in and confirm me...there is always the manual though 01.56.47 # i looked through the manuel... 01.56.55 # didn't help all that much 01.57.03 # so the current USB behaviour for the H10 only really makes sense for MTP models 01.57.57 # does rockdoom have sound? 01.58.16 # not that I know of 01.58.22 # grrrr ok 01.58.27 # bgmrk: It has sound, but not music. 01.58.37 # ok thats good enough 01.58.42 # :p 01.58.42 # ah 01.58.57 # maybe it will get music when the midi driver gets finished 01.59.48 # hmm maybe 02.00.10 # i'm trying to port a SPC player right now myself 02.00.19 # but I doubt my H10 will have enough power to play it 02.00.53 # bgmrk: ok...not "(i think)" anymore ;) 02.01.15 # haha ok 02.01.23 # hold menu well pluging it in.... 02.01.31 # seems easy enough 02.01.49 # also to modify the firmware to reboot the device when I plug in the usb cable since it does nothing 02.02.06 # hold menu after it's already booted up...... 02.02.15 # really? 02.02.21 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 02.02.33 # i not sure..i'll try after it's booted up 02.02.53 # panic 02.02.54 # haha 02.02.57 # lol 02.02.59 # thats what I get for using cvs 02.03.31 # i'm just so happy it finally has a wmp that doesn't skip 02.04.08 # pagefault: is that a panic on H10? 02.04.18 # yep 02.04.19 # 5gb 02.04.46 # since my latest commit? 02.04.58 # no idea 02.05.01 # pagefault: What SPC player are you porting? 02.05.04 # I will go get the latest firmware and try again 02.05.15 # linuxstb, libconsole from audiacious 02.05.24 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 02.05.55 # ok well it hink my ipod is hooked to comp.... 02.05.56 # :p 02.06.12 # it's C++ so I might be an issue so we'll see what happens when I try to port it 02.07.54 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 02.08.17 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 02.08.30 # updating 02.08.51 # I really want an SPC player on this thing 02.09.01 # i'm going to probably end up writing one in ARM assembly if I have to 02.10.21 # Do you have a link to the source? 02.10.33 # yeah 02.10.41 # just give me a second 02.11.35 # Is it GPL'd ? A lot of emulator-derived code has a "no commercial use" clause in the license which stops us using it in Rockbox. 02.11.48 # yes it is GPL 02.12.13 # my only concern is that it might not be fast enough 02.12.21 # but if it can be ported it will support many console formats 02.12.29 # Does it use floats? 02.12.56 # not sure I will have to look 02.12.56 # http://audacious-media-player.org/release/audacious-1.1.2.tgz 02.13.13 # ... 02.13.26 # ok so i got this demo thing for doom... 02.13.27 # check plugins/input/console 02.13.50 # i can't find the wad to actually let me play 02.14.36 Quit barrywardell () 02.15.41 # ah it does seem to use floats 02.15.57 # I might be able to modify this to used fixed values though 02.17.35 # the one we use in zsnes is all fixed point ;) 02.17.43 # but of course that is all x86 assembly 02.18.29 # It doesn't look too bad. 02.18.45 # ok i got it 02.19.39 # but you have all your consoles there though 02.19.54 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 02.22.48 # rotator: Are you here? 02.22.59 # linuxstb_: yes 02.24.06 # I've got a comment about bubbles. On my 5g and Photo ipods, it's too slow (with the CPU unboosted) and then speeds up when the CPU is boosted (this is when I'm listening to music and playing). On my h140 it seems to be too fast all the time. 02.25.17 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.26.04 # i wonder if it's because of the larger color lcd 02.26.40 # Yes, the ipod LCDs (both the Photo and 5g) take much longer to do an lcd_update() than the H300. 02.26.59 # hmm, i might be able to limit the size of the screen updates a bit more 02.27.14 # doh 02.27.29 # I think the autobuild missed that update for my h10 02.27.43 # i'll soon have a build environment though 02.27.49 # rotator: I'm sure that would help. What about the H140 being too fast? 02.28.16 # a build environment is a large download on this ftp for some reason bleh 02.28.26 # linuxstb_: there are a few speed issues like that I'd like to eventually fix up 02.29.00 # right now the bubbles move a certain distance per frame, i really should should change it to per time step 02.29.29 # this is a rather obvious question but does the EQ eat up a lot of cpu time, setting certain settings will cause skipping in songs 02.30.13 # The EQ itself doesn't use that much, but the ipods struggle with playback anyway. Turning the EQ on just pushes it over the edge in some cases. 02.30.25 # ah 02.30.43 # can much be done about this like hardware or software limitation? 02.31.41 # Rockbox just needs more optimising. I'm sure it will be fixed. But if it proves impossible, we still have a second CPU we can use - in effect we're just using 50% of the ipod's power. 02.31.54 # ah I see 02.32.39 # in any case it is much better than the stock firmware 02.32.57 # And sorry for keep saying "ipod" - I forget Rockbox now runs on other PortalPlayer targets :) 02.33.13 # yeah well my h10 is pretty much ipod nano 02.33.23 # No, it's an ipod Mini. 02.33.28 # oh really 02.33.41 # did iriver design it for apple maybe? 02.34.06 # They just used very similar components. 02.34.21 # ah, just seems kind of funny, but convienient 02.35.36 # I had this thing shelved for a while because of lack of firmware updates for it, I was waiting forever for flac or anything but nothing came out 02.35.49 # I am happy rockbox finally supports it 02.36.13 # Do iriver support FLAC on anything? 02.36.22 # mp3 and wma 02.36.24 # that is it 02.36.27 # and wav 02.37.00 # they promised audible support but they never released support for it 02.37.08 # I thought my H140 could play Ogg Vorbis? 02.37.12 # no vorbis support like the h300 02.37.24 # yeah but not on the h10 02.37.43 # Sorry, I was just asking generally if any iriver player supported FLAC. 02.37.55 # oh I think the H340 did 02.39.19 # Nope. 02.39.28 # oh well 02.39.35 # stupid really 02.39.37 # Supported formats: ASF, MP3, OGG, WMA 02.40.05 # not like they were proprietary formats 02.41.51 # hmm 02.42.05 # here is osmething you might not be aware of 02.42.17 # in the 'real world', companies make money from their products 02.42.29 # it makes no sense for htem to support a moving target like flac, matroska, ogg, etc. 02.42.44 # yeah but more formats looks nicer on a box 02.42.44 # and this somehow isnt the real world? 02.42.56 # next week some idiot reeleases a new version of ogg which isnt decodable by current implementation, and thousands of your real customers who paid money for your product are fucked. 02.42.58 # FLAC hasn't moved for about 4 years... 02.43.20 # thats not the point. 02.43.28 # im just explaining WHY any real company would never support this kinda shit. 02.43.43 # actually, iaudio does 02.43.47 # the ogg decoder has been final for years 02.44.03 # yeah, doesnt increase the number of people using it though 02.44.06 # just like matroska 02.44.12 # how long has that shit been around? 02.44.18 # it isnt even developed naymore, deader than dead 02.44.44 # so first you whine about it constantly moving, and then you whine about it not? 02.44.49 # I don't know about music but vorbis is very active in the gaming industry 02.44.56 # it's a royalty free audio format 02.45.10 # And FLAC's the most common lossless audio format on the web. 02.45.17 # 'the web'? 02.45.21 # i've *NEVER* seen anything in flac. 02.45.31 # lol, royaltee free 02.45.37 # You haven't looked at places that distribute lossless audio then. 02.45.37 # its also users-free 02.45.39 # as in nobody uses it. 02.45.45 # * pagefault sighs 02.46.11 # ubisoft, EA, id, activsion 02.46.15 # and lets just ignore your many contradictions in the last 5 min and move on to another topic! 02.46.15 # all nobodies 02.46.30 # * scorche puts on his loud announcer voice 02.46.59 # Defeated, dongs moved on to his fantasy homeland of redmond, WA 02.47.58 # * bgmrk is bored 02.48.15 # waiting for compiling is boring 02.48.22 # * JdGordon has a big ass patch you can find bugs in if your really bored.. :D 02.48.23 # not doing nething is boring :p 02.49.09 # I wonder how fast rockbox will be put on zune 02.49.12 # heh 02.49.17 # hmm as FUN as that sounds...i think i got some hmwrk 02.51.21 # Interjection: not a minor band: http://www.theymightbegiants.com/ ... scroll down 02.51.53 # aww 02.51.59 # I have to put email in for mp3s 02.52.59 # wow flac 02.53.03 # what a concept 02.53.17 # not 128kbps files 02.54.12 # The Elektra releases are conspiciously missing though 02.54.48 Join Travis [0] (n=chatzill@wsip-70-182-238-88.ks.ks.cox.net) 02.55.16 Nick Travis is now known as Sivart0 (n=chatzill@wsip-70-182-238-88.ks.ks.cox.net) 02.55.36 # hello 02.56.32 # Another not-minor band distributing music in FLAC: http://www.livemetallica.com/ 02.56.44 # but they killed napster 02.57.16 # which yes was bad but... 02.57.22 # it had some hard to find stuff on it 02.57.44 # pagefault: hi, gonna beat me to porting SPC over? 02.57.55 # dunno 02.58.01 # has the problem with ipod nano software 1.2 been fixed? 02.58.03 # I am waiting for my dev environment to set up 02.58.08 # since I haven't even started yet, probably 02.58.11 # linuxstb_: is that there way of apologixzing over killing napster? :D 02.58.17 # I have to figure out how codecs even work 02.58.30 # I am a total newb to rockbox dev 02.58.41 # I wrote up a page on that, I just ported an ADX decoder yesterday 02.58.45 # Sivart0: Yes. See the IpodInstallation wiki page. You basically need to follow the install instructions for the 5g. 02.58.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToWriteCodecs 02.59.05 # ahh thank you 02.59.36 # from there you can just look at, say, the structure of wav.c 02.59.40 # There seems to be an admission that you can make money w/o DRM 02.59.43 # ah thanks 03.00.12 # I have a sneaking suspiction that SPC is not going to work too well on my player 03.00.17 # but it might on an archos 03.00.52 # I was going to tackle NSF after a bunch of gamecube streamedf formats I've been working with 03.01.18 # We need an "How to write an encoder" too now. 03.01.23 # I can do an ARM based SPC core in a about a week and 4L of coffee 03.01.31 # if it's really needed 03.02.24 # I look forward to seeing where you go with it 03.02.32 # well I hope I go somewhere with it 03.02.41 # well see 03.03.33 # whoever wrote the SID one made me want to write for other stuff 03.03.44 # that was just so cool listening to ron hubbard on the bus 03.03.54 # I've been meaning to try that out... 03.04.39 # the seek feature needs a tweak I think 03.04.48 # if you hold it down too long you will skip over a track 03.05.08 # yeah, I saw that in the code and wondered how well it would work 03.05.19 # Rockbox needs proper support for sub-tracks within a file. That needs to be added to the core playback code though. 03.06.12 # psf probably won't happen for a long time 03.06.20 # everything is closed source 03.06.44 # and sexypsf is uhh... well 03.06.49 # well it's ok 03.07.06 # sexypsf well isn't very sexy 03.07.13 # :) 03.07.24 # several people have asked me about usf, and I told them to wait a few years until the players can handle it... 03.07.32 # usf? 03.07.44 # n64 03.08.21 # yeah maybe on one of those high end video players 03.08.26 # if they ever get supported 03.08.39 # The Gigabeat port is progressing - that's got a 300MHz ARM9 cpu. 03.08.47 # ooh 03.09.06 # I think the new Nano has a 200MHz ARM, plus a 120MHz DSP... 03.09.09 # I already see GBA emulators going on that.. 03.10.00 # ipod nano? 03.10.15 #