--- Log for 24.09.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 22 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.02 # mmmm.. ogg.. :P 00.00.17 Join bepe86 [0] (n=bk@ti311110a080-7915.bb.online.no) 00.01.05 # obo what is the difficulty for putting the config on a file 00.01.09 # ? 00.01.22 # the config file must be read before the VFS is on? 00.01.49 # pepie34: I think that was it, but I can't remember exactly... (but it made sense when I heard it) 00.02.35 # OK seems to be good now 00.04.03 # pepie34: it's worth writing a config file from the "Manage Settings" menu - sometimes the settings are reset when you upgrade 00.04.28 # you can just reload them afterwards 00.05.00 # Obo- I can't find the ROM for Pacman, do I have to download it myself? 00.05.17 # Trunks: yes - you need all 6 files 00.05.19 # :) 00.05.24 # The main hurdle was that the config sector is cached in the ATA driver and only written to disk when the disk spins up for another reason (or at shutdown). 00.05.26 # Where do I download them? :/ 00.05.35 # Trunks: google :) 00.05.44 # haha ok. 00.05.53 # see? I knew there was a good reason :D 00.05.54 # And to chargnd to pod, it's the exact same thing, righto? 00.05.56 # And to upload songs, exact same? 00.06.30 # um, what does it mean if the ipod is stuck on the Disk Mode: OK to disconnect. screen? 00.06.38 # Trunks: you just need to copy files straight onto the device 00.06.44 # Oh ok. 00.06.49 # What's the um, file names for pacman >.> 00.07.15 # linolium: if the cable isn't attached, hold menu and select to reboot 00.07.15 # linolium: when plugged to the USB ? 00.07.27 # nvm got it 00.07.35 # I know why it goes wrong 00.08.04 # I did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/ipod/dummy 00.08.07 # rm dummy 00.08.20 # do erase as munch as i can 00.08.23 # obo, thanks.. for some reason it still isn't showing up as a drive in windows... 00.08.31 # before doing a partition compression 00.09.13 # may be it as destroy your sector 00.09.22 # s/as/has 00.09.48 # linolium: does itunes see it? 00.10.38 # obo, anything tring to acces it appears to freeze up (explorer, itunes, vpod, the safely remove hardware thing) 00.11.32 # linolium: that's strange - how about booting it into the apple firmware on the ipod and trying again? 00.11.52 # obo, sorry, how do I do thaht? 00.12.20 Quit webguest46 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.12.32 # hold the menu key as it boots 00.13.07 # it's times like these I wish it had more than 5 buttons... 00.13.37 # yeah, that would be handy 00.20.10 # Obo 00.20.13 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 00.20.16 # So, wait. 00.20.21 # Well, that's it. I'm stumped. Anyone here familiar with the ATA code? 00.20.22 # To put songs on, I just drag my folder into my ipod? 00.20.24 # Anywhere I want? 00.20.38 # Trunks: yup, just create whatever folder structure you want 00.20.38 # nice variety of questions :P 00.20.42 # woah cool 00.20.50 # Tho that will take a while :/ 00.21.36 # Holy jesus 20 minutes. 00.22.07 # that's not terribly long 00.22.11 # 30 now >.> 00.22.18 # ah, microsoft minutes 00.22.21 # er wtf 00.22.22 # haha 00.22.28 # It says my ipod is full 00.22.29 # o_O 00.22.35 # Trunks: Do you have a Nano? 00.22.39 # Yes >_> 00.22.57 # I think my songs were already on the nano 00.23.13 # Trunks: checkout the TagCache page on the wiki 00.23.14 # yeah, with weird-ass names ;P 00.23.14 # Then you may want to boot into the Apple firmware for disk mode - it's a lot faster than the emergency disk mode Rockbox reboots into. 00.23.34 # Nevermind I got it. 00.23.37 # They were in a hidden folde.r 00.23.42 # with wierd ass names, like lino says >_> 00.23.52 # kk @ linux, thanks. 00.24.09 # if you want to use mp3's in both rockbox and apple firmware do they have to have weird-ass names? 00.24.59 # linolium: apple has a limit on the length of the path and filename - but look at the TagCache wiki page 00.25.04 # btw, obo 00.25.09 # Why aren't you a voice, hop or op >_> 00.25.46 # Trunks: cos I'm not that important :) 00.25.49 # haha 00.25.51 # obo, will do after I get the drive to show up.. maybe restarting will fix it 00.25.53 # Well you're helpful. 00.25.58 Quit linolium () 00.26.04 # damn, this nickname is registered. 00.26.16 Join z0de [0] (i=z0de@80-194-233-59.cable.ubr01.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.26.21 # hi 00.26.41 Nick Trunks is now known as Trun (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 00.26.43 # eh 00.26.46 # any iAudio X5 owners in? 00.26.59 Nick Trun is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 00.27.22 # eh? 00.30.51 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.31.31 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 00.34.40 # petur: Did your recording work? 00.35.20 # yes, it looks ok but the gain is very low and AGC seems to be screwed up 00.35.23 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p549343F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.35.30 # I'm puzzled 00.36.03 # You may want to see if my current playback patch helps at all. 00.36.36 # Would I be better off asking for help on the forum or the mailing list? 00.36.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 - fixes some problems where stopping audio playback doesn't actually stop it all! 00.36.59 # Thanks for all your help obo, <3 Rockbox now. 00.37.10 # I think it's almost ready for commit, but more testing is always good 00.37.18 # Trunksi: no problems - good to have another convert 00.37.51 # I had my mic-amp set to the same as usual and the iriver on +15dB and AGC safety on. Normally it ends up a bit below that due to some peaks, but now it ended with a gain _higher_ than started - this is impossible. Also the result is very low gain where as it normally almost clips. 00.37.53 # I'll just continue idling here, another server to add to irc! 00.38.53 # Hmm, I don't know much about Rockbox recording, but that definitely sounds like an AGC bug. 00.39.26 # or the gain/peakmeter code 00.39.34 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.39.41 # Has any of that changed recently? 00.39.52 # afaik, yes 00.41.23 # Mike Sevakis has been modifying lots of things in recording - I don't even know how it works anymore :/ 00.43.01 # pondlife: I know nothing about the playback code so I'll just patch my build and see if it acts up 00.43.10 # I can only see button action changes, plus http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/recorder/recording.c.diff?r1=1.134&r2=1.135 00.43.15 # OK, that would be good 00.43.28 # but that's for tomorrow - bedtime now 00.43.32 # Night night 00.44.20 # and the important recording changes are in firmware/pcm_record.c ;) 00.44.30 # * petur falls asleep 00.44.37 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.47.43 Part hcs 00.49.01 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.51.09 # Is there anyway to use rockbox while my ipodnano is charging? 00.51.10 # >.> 00.51.43 # Trunksi: Hold down the Menu button while you connect it. 00.52.29 # okie, thanks 00.52.32 # any iAudio X5 owners here? 00.52.37 # while my ipodnano is charging? 00.52.37 # >.> 00.52.37 # Trunksi: Hold down the Menu butt 00.52.49 # soz for c/p 00.52.53 # lol 00.53.10 # Trunksi: Keep in mind, tho, it'll charge a lot slower that way. 00.53.21 # so any iAudio X5 owners here? 00.53.33 # I dont think so zode. 00.53.37 # Um, Kalthare, it's not working :x 00.53.43 # When do I press menu? 00.54.04 # Just have it held down while you plug in the connector. 00.54.13 # k 00.54.32 # oh i see 00.54.34 # ty 00.54.55 # np 00.55.44 # * pondlife must sleep and dream of faster-reacting voiced files 00.55.52 # Er 00.55.55 # Why is it that when I play songs 00.55.58 # Like no sound comes? 00.56.18 # nvm 00.56.41 # Holy shit, it's LOUD when its at max >_> 00.58.46 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 01.00.22 Quit rr3tzbach (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.10.32 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 01.10.51 Quit obo ("bye") 01.13.53 Quit bl4cktone ("Ex-Chat") 01.14.01 Join bl4cktone [0] (n=bl4ckton@ip68-106-136-83.pn.at.cox.net) 01.16.03 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 01.17.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.24.06 Quit ender` (" The last time somone listened to a Bush, a bunch of people wandered in the desert for 40 years.") 01.32.57 # anyone have guesses as to what the battery life would be between ~160k vorbis and ~245k mp3? 01.33.08 # on the iAudio X5 which already has crap batteries 01.34.55 # i dont think bit rate will affect bat life, unless i missunderstood your question 01.36.05 # well it would spin up less, but I think the mp3 decoder is more optimized? 01.37.46 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("restarting X") 01.38.07 # but on is on, i doubt software will have much inpact on a small device. the spinning might but im not sure (this is all opinon) 01.38.46 # z0de: its pretty well known that codec and bitrate effect battery life, afaik 01.39.11 # z0de: they affect drive usage of course, and also cpu usage (which also uses power) 01.39.23 # ok, im new to portable audio so still learning 01.39.40 # higher bitrate does tend to lower the battery life 01.39.44 Quit bl4cktone (Remote closed the connection) 01.39.50 # ogg seems to usually tend to lower it vs mp3 01.40.17 # k 01.40.42 # ivan what do you think of the X5? and why didn't you get the X5L 01.41.22 # because I needed the 60GB and I just made a battery pack for it the day I got it 01.41.30 # it's a great portable 01.41.46 # I dropped it 7 feet while running and no damage except a tiny corner scratch 01.42.16 # cool, any complaints? 01.42.39 # the battery life obviously sucks with rockbox 01.42.57 # but otherwise it's perfect with rockbox 01.43.02 # and you have to make your own sync solution 01.43.33 # if it had a few terabytes of flash storage and ran on UHV capacitors I'd be happier 01.44.02 # the joystick is in the wrong place 01.44.08 # the thing was made by korean lefties or something 01.44.18 # im a leftie :) 01.44.23 # you're in luck then 01.44.59 Join linolium [0] (n=linolium@S01060080ad789336.vw.shawcable.net) 01.45.04 # hello fellow rockboxians! 01.45.11 # rockboxers 01.45.17 # err, sorry 01.45.19 # im thinking about getting one. hows the sound quality, user interface, song seeking? 01.45.29 # hi lino 01.45.36 # anyway, can I charge my monochrome ipod over firewire in rockbox? 01.47.17 # ivan, still there? 01.47.21 # yep 01.47.32 # so... 01.47.42 # oh 01.47.52 # yesno? 01.48.00 # hows the sound quality, user interface, song seeking? 01.48.15 # the sound quality is studio quality and rockbox's crossfeed for headphones is good 01.48.22 # the cowon UI or the rockbox UI? 01.48.31 # song seeking accelerates better in rockbox 01.48.34 # linolium - rockbox doesn't do charging, the apple hardware/firmware does, FW charging should work. 01.48.42 # and it works properly and bookmarks 01.48.43 # rockbox as thats what i'll use 01.48.54 # I haven't used the new rockbox UI 01.49.01 # but if it's any better than this 2-month-old one 01.49.06 # it's acceptable 01.49.08 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7D88.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.49.10 # unless you know of a reason to use cowon.. 01.49.20 # 1.5-2x as much battery life? 01.49.41 # and a warranty 01.50.01 # pff just put back the cowen if theres a problem 01.50.14 # can't change bootloader without a working hdd and battery 01.50.15 # heh 01.50.53 # and how hard was it to make the battery pack or could i buy one 01.51.18 # you can make one in three minutes if you are near a radioshack 01.51.37 # in the uk, so nearest is a few thousand miles away. 01.51.46 # you need an adaptaplug 01.51.53 # search the iaudiophile forums 01.51.59 # i posted a photo of my completed battery pack 01.52.10 # got a link? 01.52.13 # nope 01.52.17 # haven't been there in forever 01.53.05 # k. thanks for anwsering my q's 01.53.11 # .np 01.53.35 Join telliott_ [0] (n=telliott@68-179-149-245.bsr-c3-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net) 01.53.42 Part telliott_ 01.53.49 # Soap: is rockbox planning on ever doing charging? 01.56.52 # erm, I have it connected to my computer via firewire and I boot up to the apple firmware and it says "no battery" and shuts off... 02.08.11 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 02.12.00 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 02.13.34 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 02.13.35 Quit linolium (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.13.45 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 02.18.31 # Wait 02.18.36 # So charging doesn't work on the rockbox? 02.21.59 # linuxstb:you here ? 02.22.19 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 02.23.15 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.09 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 02.28.13 # Captain_A: Yes. 02.35.08 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 02.50.32 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.51.37 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.55.15 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 02.58.20 Quit Febs () 02.59.42 Nick Nibbler|GSA is now known as Nibbler (n=sven@e181081085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.09.50 Join corevette [0] (i=4b12cda4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 03.11.40 Quit corevette (Client Quit) 03.16.28 Quit Trunksi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.17.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.26.36 Join Mekrob [0] (n=dummeska@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 03.30.54 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-75-133.dslaccess.co.uk) 03.35.35 Quit Captain_A (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.36.29 Join pagefault_ [0] (i=pagefaul@bas2-toronto12-1168024323.dsl.bell.ca) 03.36.35 Quit pagefault_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.41.12 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 03.42.27 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 03.50.42 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.52.45 Join pagefault_ [0] (i=pagefaul@bas2-toronto12-1167861079.dsl.bell.ca) 03.54.01 Quit pagefault (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.54.54 # how do you go sleepmode 03.54.59 # >_> 03.55.12 # obo? 03.55.45 # I wonder if the battery in my h10 is screwed 03.55.53 # or I just have too much stuff enabled 03.56.04 # it's dropping 1% like every minute 03.56.15 # lol' 03.56.37 # the battery isn't adjusted very well yet on the h10 03.56.47 # I noticed that too 03.56.55 # but it shouldn't be dropping so fast 03.57.15 # by time we will have at least the same batterlifetime as in the iriver firmware 03.57.50 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 03.58.37 # yeah I am not complaining 03.58.45 # just curious if my battery is screwed 04.00.19 # ah fixed 04.00.22 # I am a moron 04.00.29 # I had like every option on the EQ turned on 04.01.08 # cfg reset fixed problem 04.02.36 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.03.48 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@e181081085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.04.01 # i think the default theme kicks ass 04.05.09 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.05.38 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@e181081085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.07.31 Join Trunksi [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 04.07.31 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.08.04 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@e181081085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.08.51 Quit Mekrob (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.09.41 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 04.12.03 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.24.03 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 04.24.24 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 04.27.00 Quit Reverie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.31 Join Captain_A [0] (n=dummeska@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 04.29.41 Part Captain_A 04.31.39 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 04.31.43 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp58-171.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.37.51 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.38.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp58-171.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.41.04 Quit Kalthare ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 04.44.54 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.54.45 Join vertic420 [0] (i=bla@dslb-084-056-229-118.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.57.49 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.00.33 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=Terinjok@adsl-11-139-115.mia.bellsouth.net) 05.01.03 # hey, i'm trying to restore bootpartition.bin using diskdump, but i'm getting a input/output error 05.01.34 # any ideas? 05.02.46 # this is the second time the bootloader has stopped working and diskdump wouldn't work 05.03.49 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 05.05.10 Join baerman714 [0] (n=Baerman7@ppp55-253.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net) 05.06.10 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181081085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.06.15 # hello 05.06.45 Join Menisk [0] (n=Baerman7@ppp55-253.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net) 05.07.36 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB26613.ipt.aol.com) 05.07.55 # the bootloader stopping working out of the blue is odd. 05.08.05 # isn't anyone gonna say hello back 05.08.49 # No. Who'd say hi to you 05.08.55 # retard 05.09.33 # that's nice, Menisk 05.09.36 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 05.09.56 # The dud stole an ipod 05.10.00 # and laughed at it 05.10.02 # cmon 05.10.08 # found, not stole 05.10.31 # no you stole 05.10.44 # what's this about. 05.11.11 # Darthshrine, where are the logs? 05.11.22 # oh, I though I had /ignored that worthless fuck. 05.11.31 # show midkay the logs 05.11.31 # yes, and it's happened twice... 05.11.46 # ah, i see it.. 05.11.49 # haha. 05.11.51 Quit vertic23 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.12.01 # Give me a break i found an ipod and they say I stole it 05.12.16 # and i *found* a mac book pro 05.12.23 # you watched a guy plug it in at the apple store, you watched him leave the room, and you pocketed it. 05.12.34 # what sort of idiot.. 05.12.39 # And i found this kidney when i cut the guy open 05.12.40 # Menisk: On the Rockbox site.. 05.12.45 # * Terinjokes wishes he had a macbook pro 05.13.26 # i didn't steal it i found it when someone put ti donw in the apple store 05.13.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20060919.txt <--- There, Menisk 05.14.09 # anyone who doesnt know what we're talking about read the link DarthShrine posted 05.14.10 # I guess it's hard to /ignore someone on dialup. unless that's PPPoE 05.14.17 # just search for baerman714 05.14.21 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.14.43 # baerman714: whatever you want to call it, you took it when you knew it was somebody else's.. you're not going to get any hellos here. 05.14.50 # whats wrong with dial up 05.15.01 # its cheaper 05.15.15 # its hellishl slow 05.15.25 # its so new zealand-ish (please, i mean no offense to my fellow kiwis, its in inside joke) 05.15.26 # hellishly* 05.15.38 # lol 05.15.46 # i don't get it 05.16.06 # get what? 05.16.11 # because your a n00b and a theif 05.16.18 # Did you get kicked off you cable internet after bragging about how you can "hack" it and steal cable internet? 05.16.34 # no more feeding the troll from me. 05.16.59 # lol 05.17.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.18.08 Quit pagefault_ (Client Quit) 05.18.08 # why are you guys so mean 05.18.13 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.18.23 # Soap: haha, that seemed pretty damn random until i decided to re-google.. 05.18.41 # baerman714: that's what the guy whose iPod is now missing is and has been wondering. 05.19.08 # how about you go to the apple store and return it 05.19.35 # they probably have the contact number for who evers ipod it is when they came and asked where t is 05.19.42 # what's the saddest part is that there's not really any way to get it back to the guy, i mean so many people have iPods.. 05.19.47 # that's possible, yeah. 05.19.56 # but i like it 05.20.02 # though if it's stolen it's probably not gonna be returned.. 05.20.36 # wel in baermans hands hell no 05.20.43 # "hey, i stole this iPod a few days ago when a guy left it here.. well.. it was fun to mess with but I thought I should return it.. so, here.. thanks." 05.21.16 # wait sec while i call the police... 05.21.19 # :P 05.21.24 # haha. 05.21.36 # ha you dont even know where i live 05.21.52 # ... 05.22.07 # i know I hate you 05.22.34 # I found an ipod, big deal 05.23.06 # stole 05.24.09 # I know close enough to where you are in Penn. 05.24.14 # whos the channel op? 05.24.19 Quit volt ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.24.23 # Close enough to know which store you were most likely at. 05.25.34 # baerman no one here wants you so why dont you F**K OFF 05.25.54 # exactly 05.26.06 # your random enough to pay your self out? 05.26.28 # Im trying to impersonate 1 of you guys 05.26.59 # great impersonation 05.27.10 # now take the advice and get lost 05.27.19 # fine asshole 05.27.21 Quit baerman714 ("Leaving") 05.28.08 # First time he was here his address was from Pennsylvania, this time it was from Australia. 05.28.29 # Fist time it was on a cable internet service, this time it was on a PPP connection. 05.28.32 # wtf 05.29.13 # thats wierd 05.30.17 # he too much of an idiot too spoof 05.30.56 # or use proxy 05.31.07 # yet 05.31.12 Quit sharpe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.31.12 # yer* 05.35.23 Quit Menisk ("Leaving") 05.36.08 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 05.36.30 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 05.37.35 # freenode rejects proxies, no? 05.38.21 # nah, but this channel blocks some (all?) tor outlets. 05.38.39 # lol, he told himself to F**K OFF...what an idiot... 05.38.55 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-5-242.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 05.38.58 # ah...i like TOR, slow as hell....but useful 05.39.00 # Menisk = baerman714 05.39.41 # copying over my music, again 05.40.39 # Soap: He's not. 05.40.46 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 05.41.45 # tagcache is in the .rockbox right? 05.41.54 # DarthShrine - they had the same IP address 05.42.16 # Soap: Serious? Haha. I know Menisk in person though. 05.42.45 # makes since, the whole F**K OFF thing, typed in the wrong window i guess... 05.43.59 # haha. 05.46.16 # the songs finally copied over... 05.48.05 # and tagcache is updating... 05.48.28 # Copying songs over USB 1.1 is terrible. 05.48.49 # yeah, and 500MB...in disk-mode....ah! 05.49.11 # * Soap plays a mournful violin. 05.49.20 # a small collection, but still painful 05.49.46 # I copied about 1.5GB. Unfun. 05.51.10 # gtg 05.51.10 # my ipod has a punch-card reader. 05.51.17 Quit Terinjokes () 05.51.54 # O_o 05.52.24 # hrmm, you could probably fit all 3 chords of a John Denver song on a punch card 05.54.52 Quit Trunksi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.55.04 Join Trunksi [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 05.55.08 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.07.50 Quit Reverie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.09.12 Quit bgmrk (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.09.39 Join Captain_A [0] (n=dummeska@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 06.25.31 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181125010.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.27.26 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") 06.34.42 Part DarthShrine 06.36.14 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 06.36.21 Quit Captain_A () 06.48.56 Join meshuga [0] (i=meshuga@garden.of.eden.edu) 06.48.57 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 06.51.38 Quit ivan` (" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 06.53.19 Join Captain_A [0] (n=dummeska@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 06.53.34 Join ivan` [0] (i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan) 06.57.05 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 06.57.15 Quit RoC_MM (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.07.55 Quit Trunksi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.08.39 Quit bepe86 (Remote closed the connection) 07.12.11 # which codec decodes mp3? 07.15.07 # well mpa or mpc or a52 apparently 07.15.14 # mpa 07.17.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.17.41 # ah thanks 07.18.21 # which is libmad 07.28.20 Join webguest63 [0] (i=43b44112@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 07.29.14 Quit webguest63 (Client Quit) 07.33.32 Quit webguest55 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.43.35 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-2-250-71.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 07.50.13 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.50.49 Join MHen [0] (n=MHen@p54A37154.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.54.11 Part MHen 07.57.33 Join webguest97 [0] (i=c3ec4b1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 07.58.39 Quit Captain_A (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.10.47 Join pagefault [0] (n=pagefaul@bas2-toronto12-1167861079.dsl.bell.ca) 08.11.29 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzz") 08.11.42 Quit pagefault (Remote closed the connection) 08.30.46 Quit dpassen (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.35.39 Join sai [0] (i=8a827bed@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 08.36.08 # hi ppl! 08.36.10 Join meshuga_ [0] (i=meshuga@garden.of.eden.edu) 08.36.56 # hey does anyone know how to switch from rockbox to apple firmware? 08.37.02 Quit meshuga ("Reconnecting") 08.37.25 # sai: read the FAQ 08.37.32 # cause i need help :'( 08.37.50 # ok im a noob... please guide me to the faq 08.38.02 # documentation link on the side 08.38.26 # http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 08.38.27 # http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 08.38.43 # this? 08.38.51 # uhhh.. 08.38.56 # on the side of rockbox.org 08.39.10 # roger :D 08.41.27 # erm it doesnt tell me how to change to apple firm from rockbox 08.41.59 # could sum1 tell me how? i think i might have forgotten to install something 08.42.20 # huh? 08.42.28 # it should boot into rockbox by default 08.43.18 # ya i know but i wanna go bak to apple firmware how do i do tht? 08.43.41 # restart your device 08.44.08 # by holding menu+middle button? 08.44.22 # yes 08.44.49 # ya did tht, then wat? 08.45.08 # then your device shouldt restart 08.45.19 # lolz ya 08.45.20 Quit webguest97 ("CGI:IRC") 08.45.36 # and it restarts back into rockbox 08.45.58 # as it should 08.46.26 # unless you hold menu to boot into apple 08.46.29 # nooooooo but i wanna go to apple firmware. how do i do tht? 08.47.03 # sai: i just told you how...and told you where the instructions are to do that 08.47.20 # i held menu button it still same. goes to this screen with shuffle on and off, show all files or not and repeat on and off 08.47.36 # srry im laggin thts y i talk slow 08.48.01 # because you have to hold menu while booting the device...did you read the FAQ at all? 08.48.11 # and talk in english please 08.48.25 # ok 08.49.00 # i am srry tht when u answer something i ask the same question 08.49.23 # is it really so hard to put the "o" and "a" in there? 08.49.23 # this is beause i am lagging due to the fact that i am sharing my computer with sum1 08.49.31 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-3-2.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.49.55 # OK I am sorry that i answer slowly! 08.50.13 # oops forgot a capital I?!?! 08.50.17 # you seem to be fine... 08.50.31 # i never said you have to capitalize...just speak english 08.50.32 # lol lemme try this 08.50.53 # okok, anyways thanks for the help :D 08.52.02 Join Quazgaa [0] (i=quaz@m180.telcomplus.net) 08.53.06 # ok im still having trouble, i booted my ipod (menu+middle button) and then just held the middle button but it did not go to apple firmware,stayed on rockbox 08.53.20 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-236-163.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 08.53.28 # keep trying and be sure to hold your finger still 08.54.55 # OMG IT WORKED. THANKS SCORCHE YOU ARE A LIFESAVER! 08.55.03 # tyty 09.00.39 # hey does anyone know of a good site to download ipod 5g games? 09.00.53 # all are included 09.01.14 # unless you want pacman roms, or gameboy roms 09.01.19 # is that all u can get? 09.01.32 # or extra doom wads i guess 09.01.46 # yea my doom doesnt work 09.01.56 # how could i get doom? 09.02.07 # read its page in the wiki 09.02.23 # wikipedia? 09.02.27 # you can play gameboy roms in rockbox? 09.02.37 # Quazgaa: yes 09.02.45 # sai: rockbox's wiki of course... 09.02.55 # lolz 09.03.05 # sai: dude, dont do that 09.03.16 # :P 09.03.22 # do wat? 09.03.24 # thats like sitting down at a poker table and crossing your legs 09.03.25 # "lolz" 09.03.31 # seriously...it makes me want to reach through the screen and punch you 09.03.33 # ok 09.03.46 # geez everyones commenting on how i type 09.04.07 # because this isnt a social channel...this is a support channel 09.04.23 # ok then :'( 09.06.46 # getting gameboy roms to play on rockbox hard? 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12.19.32 # seems a bit superfluous imo 12.19.40 # how often would it be used, really? 12.20.42 # once for every file? :p 12.20.49 # at most 12.20.49 # heh 12.20.57 # I actually find it quite useful because i often add my whole music dir to a shuffled playlist and then I don't want to listen to a specific artist. 12.21.14 # nls: stop listening to crappy music 12.21.39 # nls: oh you mean like "remove this album" "remove this artist" sort of deal? 12.21.56 # my karma's got that... and i do use it from time to time 12.22.11 # ze yeah like that but for folders 12.22.34 # well my karma's all id3-based, so yeah as applicable for the browsing scheme 12.22.43 # might be more applicable to thte tag browser 12.23.03 # dj-fu: it'd be just as applicable to either, i'd say 12.23.07 # I made a quick and dirty patch that works but wonder if it's interesting for anyone else. 12.23.12 # unless you have your directory structure really lame 12.23.13 # heh 12.23.24 # the danger of a "remove this artist" command is that you might break a VA album. 12.23.41 # we are also just talking about removing it from the playlist 12.23.44 # not the actual files 12.23.49 # nls: right? 12.23.50 # heh 12.23.56 # yep 12.24.00 # ahh 12.24.02 # nvm 12.24.36 # maybe I'll try and clean it up ant put it in the tracker 12.24.38 # perhaps have it create a new playlist with said files removed? 12.25.18 # or have a no-play playlist 12.25.21 # or something. 12.26.12 # dj-fu, it removes them from the current playlist so if you want to keep it like it was, just save it first :-) 12.26.25 # ah 12.26.33 # so it doesn't actually cull a .pls or .m3u or whatever. 12.26.38 # just uses the in-memory one? 12.26.44 # yep 12.26.55 # oh ok, that's cool; 12.27.03 # so it removes a particular mp3 file, or a particular filetype 12.27.22 # this is where I think using the tag browser would be better 12.27.28 # a file or files in a folder (from the playlist, not the actual files) 12.27.29 # then you can chop a whole artist out 12.27.37 # ah 12.27.43 # i get ya now. 12.27.49 # yep, sounds cool 12.27.51 # :) 12.30.26 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 12.40.05 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-17-119.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.52.19 Quit t0mas (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.55.48 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.57.43 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82-43-214-84.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.02.45 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD26D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.03.05 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 13.09.56 Quit gromit` ("Coyote finally caught me") 13.16.20 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 13.17.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.18.04 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@82.234.244.69) 13.18.36 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-170.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 13.30.38 Quit pondlife (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.43.49 Join sando [0] (n=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 13.48.59 Join nuidelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-66-42.dslaccess.co.uk) 13.49.27 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.49.35 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 13.55.19 Quit meshuga_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 13.55.58 Quit SereR0kR (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.57.31 Quit nudelyn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.57.31 Quit ]RowaN[ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.06.24 Quit MarcoPolo ("Bye !") 14.06.30 Join meshuga [0] (i=meshuga@garden.of.eden.edu) 14.10.24 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@dxb-b125465.alshamil.net.ae) 14.12.56 Join bepe86 [0] (n=bk@ti311110a080-7915.bb.online.no) 14.13.38 # linuxstb: A 160 kbps AAC track now decodes at ~70% boost on coldfire. 14.17.18 # And that's with -O rather than -O2 I just realized... :) 14.17.54 # (According to FAADOPTS at least...) 14.18.01 # nice, not that I use aac but anyways ;-) 14.18.41 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932661.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.27.44 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 14.28.14 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 14.30.29 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 14.30.36 # Lear: Nice work. What did you do? 14.31.40 # IRAM shuffling, so I don't know how much that affects the arm build... 14.31.54 # But I managed to undo a bunch of the changes I did... :( 14.32.11 # Some of it is easy to fix at least. 14.33.15 Quit barrywardell () 14.33.17 # If you want to post a patch, I'll be happy to see what the effect is on ARM. 14.33.32 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 14.34.04 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 14.36.18 # I can do that. 14.36.44 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-170.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 14.38.31 Quit z0de ("Pretend this says something cool") 14.44.29 # Can anyone explain why the pitch screen +/-2% options are only kept while the button is held down? 14.44.39 # I assume this is deliberate. 14.45.03 Quit barrywardell () 14.46.16 # pondlife: It's to beatmatch two tracks 14.47.37 # How does this help? Sorry - I'm probably being dumb 14.49.37 # It only allows you to go temporarily up or down by 2%. I'd think that (a) you'd want to progress and (b) 2% might be too large a jump 14.50.10 # pondlife, this is when the beat is a bit away. Then you can make playback a bit faster until it matches. 14.51.00 # Ah, so to get a working range for finer adjustment, right? 14.51.10 # Yeah, say the tempo is perfect for both tracks, you just need the beats to happen at the same time. 14.51.23 # Gotcha 14.51.46 # Thanks - I learn something (or 2 things) new about Rockbox every day 14.52.35 # Pitch is useful for getting the CPU to boost a bit!! 14.55.33 # And it's fun to play with! 15.07.55 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@nat01-silvers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 15.17.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.20.35 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.32.02 Quit aliask (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.11 # linuxstb: see patch 6058. 15.39.00 # Gah, the MUL_C asm causes problems for m68k-gcc 3.4.4 (3.4.5 is ok). 15.40.18 Join Captain_A [0] (n=dummeska@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 15.54.10 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.56.05 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@p54B7ECE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.07.34 # anyone knows if current cvs is ok for recording? 16.07.57 # petur should know 16.08.05 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 16.08.44 # but he's not here .( 16.08.47 # :( 16.11.37 Part bepe86 16.12.42 Join bilbravo [0] (n=bilbravo@pool-70-17-220-11.balt.east.verizon.net) 16.14.06 Join bepe86 [0] (n=bk@ti311110a080-7915.bb.online.no) 16.14.19 Part bepe86 16.15.24 # Lear: Good news - your libfaad optimisations help on the ipod as well. My 128kbps test file needed 100% boost, and the PCM buffer was never more than about half full. With your patch, it's playing at around 65boost with the PCM buffer staying full. 16.17.13 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh11825@dxb-as59276.alshamil.net.ae) 16.18.00 # seems there's leftover button defines in gwps.h.... 16.29.49 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 16.30.47 # linuxstb:what version of linux do you use? 16.35.20 Quit XavierGr () 16.35.54 Join senab [0] (i=HydraIRC@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.37.15 # obo? 16.37.19 # you here? 16.39.01 # lini, how about you? 16.39.47 # hi senab 16.40.01 # afternoon obo 16.40.19 # just a quick question regarding the piezo patch 16.40.48 # hi senab 16.40.58 # i've been using it (freqmods mod) along with the lcd brightness patch and they're conflicting somehow 16.41.18 # the piezo will only work if the lcd brightness is set to 15 (100%) 16.41.42 # looking at the patch, i can't see how they're conflicting 16.42.03 # not using the same variable names? no conflicts in the menu files themselves? 16.42.30 # nope, the piezo works fine if i use your old driver, so it's got something to do with the timer 16.42.45 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-116-235.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.42.46 # ah... yes - they both use the timer 16.44.02 # so i'm guessing there's no way round it 16.46.21 Quit Quazgaa ("leaving") 16.47.10 # not that I know of.. but I don't know alot about the usec timer 16.47.36 # aaah, no worries, i'll just use your old driver for now 16.47.41 # cheers 16.47.51 Quit bluey- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.48.07 # hey captain_a 16.51.53 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-116-235.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.53.00 Quit senab (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 16.57.29 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4FE9.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.03.37 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! 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(the other variants aren't in common use, afaik.) 18.31.54 # doesn't nero only encode HE AAC? 18.34.50 # if you use a low enough bitrate yes. 18.35.18 # But in this case, LC AAC doesn't exclude the HE support. 18.36.37 # "LC only" in this case means disabling of Main AAC, LTP, SRS, LD, DRM and similar "rarely" used features. ;) 18.40.20 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@233.84-48-89.nextgentel.com) 18.41.08 # linuxstb, I changed your suggestion a tiny bit. What do you think? http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html 18.41.28 Join Trunksi [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 18.42.26 # hi tucoz 18.42.30 # hi 18.42.45 # how about removing those "bugs", "feature requests" and "patches" completely? 18.42.59 # FS has quick links to those. I think a simple FS link would be sufficient. 18.43.32 # hehe, yes. But then we would get questions like, where do we post bugs/patches 18.43.36 # don't you think? 18.43.51 # and we could answer: use FS :) 18.44.39 # Maybe you are right. 18.45.07 # and users who really want to submit reports would (a) simply try and look what FS is or (b) look in the wiki on how to do 18.45.23 # I think that the heading "flyspray" could confuse people enough not to use it as a supportchannel 18.45.46 # "bugs" is a dangerous buzzword IMO 18.46.05 # users tend to scream "bug!" simply when something isn't working the way they want to. 18.46.11 # yes. so i've noticed by the hard working tracker maintainers 18.46.25 # (by the amount of mails i get from flyspray) 18.47.15 # see this mail of mine: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-07/0038.shtml 18.47.44 # (the last part) 18.49.02 # we should really discuss a tracker policy on rb-dev. I'll have more time for that in about 2 weeks. 18.49.06 # Yes, I agree. But the situation is better now right? 1000 open tasks? 18.49.24 # I'd like to have only ~500 open tasks. 18.49.45 # having 1000 open tasks -- who keeps track of them all? 18.50.03 # I think we should be able to close tasks that we are not able to reproduce, and that have been silent for a certain amount of time. 18.50.10 # and, more important: IMO this "help" keeping devs away from using FS on a regularly basis. 18.50.45 # indeed. Tasks opened 2002 and having no more comments aren't useful anymore imo. 18.51.05 # and as I said some times already: if there is really an issue someone will open a new task :) 18.51.24 # Yes 18.51.51 # the fact that the amount of junk tasks overshadows the real tasks is a problem 18.51.55 # I really hope to address this in ~2 weeks. 18.52.09 # need to pass my last exam first. 18.52.30 # But maybe a simple restructuring of the menu could help users on their way to support 18.52.47 # oh. then you are finished with school? 18.53.06 # surely. I like the proposion, but I'd rather not have "bug" on the front page 18.53.16 # hehe, i know what you mean 18.53.29 # no, after that I need to write my diploma thesis. Then I'm finally finished 18.53.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp58-171.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.53.55 # (man, I'm getting old *g*) 18.53.55 # What grade is that thesis for? 18.54.23 # diploma of electrical engineering 18.54.32 # * bluebrother hopes this is the correct english term 18.54.45 Quit JoeBorn (Remote closed the connection) 18.54.58 # Probably :) Good luck with the studying then 18.55.07 # leo translates it as "graduate engineer" 18.55.29 # thanks. 18.55.48 # got to go cook some food. see you later 18.56.30 # cu 19.05.39 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) 19.05.45 # hi 19.05.59 # funny question... how do I exit the I/O debug screen on an ipod nano? 19.07.36 Quit SereR0kR () 19.08.39 # prev button 19.14.05 Quit Nibbier ("bei uns hat noch niemals nicht koana koan durscht ned ghabt") 19.17.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.23.33 Join DrMoreau [0] (i=DrMoreau@24.151.104.191) 19.23.43 # lo 19.24.39 Join fredxor [0] (n=fredxor@24-54-36-9.lndnnh.adelphia.net) 19.25.01 # i patched ipodpatcher to use the 2048b/sectors for the 5.5g ipods.. it can pull and rewrite the fw image now. 19.25.45 # DrMoreau: wow, cool.. does Rockbox run, have you tried that? 19.25.51 # no not yet 19.25.54 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 19.25.56 # i need help with that 19.26.22 # i have a question about rockbox with an ipod 19.26.48 # if i use rockbox, do i have to use itunes to transfer my music, or can i just do it through windows explorer? 19.26.49 # is anyone currenty working on the 5.5g bin? 19.26.50 # DrMoreau - that's like saying you can fly the space shuttle but not drive a car ;) 19.27.01 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 19.27.14 # haha. i'm sure it's happened before! 19.27.29 # fredxor: windows explorer works fine.. that's rockbox's default system. 19.27.34 # drag+drop file structure. 19.27.35 # awesome 19.27.38 # thanks midkay 19.27.43 # just what i'm looking for 19.27.47 # or fly the space shuttle but cant stand at the news conference afterwards 19.27.56 # np. 19.28.14 # soap - i can fly better than i can drive 19.28.42 # there's less to hit, but i still have had 2 almost collisions 19.28.49 # luckily, i had an instructor with me 19.31.18 # i tink ipod_fw may need a patch to deal with the difference in padding size, not sure tho 19.33.09 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181125010.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.33.19 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 19.33.57 # still getting just the dark apple... 19.35.31 Quit fredxor () 19.35.33 # anyone know what the padding bytes are for in IPP? 19.36.18 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 19.36.39 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 19.36.41 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.37.19 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 19.37.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 19.39.39 # DrMoreau: Yes, I think ipod_fw.c needs an update as well.... 19.41.55 # tucoz, bluebrother: Regarding having a link to "bug reports" on the front page - I would quite like to keep it, but instead of linking directly to flyspray, it could link to an "how to report bugs" wiki page. I'm thinking of something like mplayer's page: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html 19.45.03 # DrMoreau: Does your patch to ipodpatcher require the user to know the sector size, or does it detect it? 19.45.28 # tucoz, I definately like the manual link on the front page. 19.50.13 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.52.15 # i hardcoded it to 2048 19.52.34 # it was previously coded to 512 19.55.05 # linuxstb_, just read that mplayer page. I really like that attempt. 19.55.09 # nls, it was linuxstb's idea. I just changed the font somewhat 19.55.20 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust438.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.55.53 # especially the introduction to the topic on the mplayer page is nice. 19.55.57 # Ah, very good idea to link to a howto instead of a direct link to the bugreport 19.56.05 # tucoz, ok but I think it's a very good idea since people seem to have trouble finding the manual with the current layout 19.56.14 # yes, i agree 19.57.05 # I really don't understand why people don't find the manual. It's linked directly below the daily builds ... 19.57.23 # I don't think people expect to find a daily built manual 19.57.45 # I've done a little googling, and it looks like the DriveGetFreeDiskSpace function (!!) gives you the logical sector size for a drive. This looks like it needs a drive letter though, not the disk device number... 19.57.50 # you only see what you expect to see.. 19.57.55 # ^That was to DrMoreau... 19.58.05 # hehe. Indeed. 19.58.42 # users tend not wanting to see a manual as this would imply reading it (and this means some kind of work ;-) 19.58.48 # Does flyspray require registration when you open a task? 19.59.05 # bluebrother, hehe 19.59.11 # you are right 19.59.28 # FS requires registration including a valid mail address. 19.59.31 # bluebrother: IMO, the current problems with flyspray are caused by 1) No clear links to the support channels on the Rockbox home page; 2) No description about what what the bug tracker is for. 19.59.49 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCF271.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.00.41 # indeed. IMO there is also 3) users who are kind of lazy, but this is something we can't do anything about. 20.02.39 Quit Pyromancer ("Ex-Chat") 20.03.19 # bluebrother: Are you sure FS requires registration before opening a task? It never used to. 20.04.12 # yes. The anonymous submissions got stopped some time ago 20.04.30 # linuxstb - can you send me the info on that? 20.05.05 # funny, the registration form http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/register denotes the mail address not as required field but states you need to get a confirmation code. 20.05.15 Join DanManners [0] (n=J3susJuL@ool-45766df3.dyn.optonline.net) 20.05.53 # DrMoreau: Just google for DriveGetFreeDiskSpace - but as I said, you'll also need to find the drive letter for the ipod... 20.06.25 # linuxstb_, did you have a sf account before? Those got imported (according to wiki page, and this was the thing that happened to my account too) 20.06.46 # Yo People, DanManners here 20.06.46 # um 20.06.50 Quit perplexity (Excess Flood) 20.06.54 # could someone show me how to add someone to the wiki list 20.07.13 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh24560@dxb-as59276.alshamil.net.ae) 20.07.39 # google says "Your search - DriveGetFreeDiskSpace - did not match any documents. " 20.07.42 # DanManners, you add them to this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup 20.07.45 # DanManners, wiki list? You mean editing the wiki? 20.08.01 # ah, got it :) 20.08.03 # ya 20.08.29 # DrMoreau: Sorry, it's "GetDiskFreeSpace" 20.08.51 # DanManners, you want to get added to the list? 20.09.01 # sorry 20.09.02 # you are 20.09.36 # oic thx 20.10.07 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 20.10.09 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 20.10.16 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@131.sub-70-223-239.myvzw.com) 20.11.25 # noo 20.11.26 # umm 20.11.29 # I want to add my friend 20.11.31 # because he made a wps 20.11.34 # for the iPod 5g 20.11.41 # and i don't know how to add him 20.11.52 # can you just tell me how? 20.11.55 # DanManners, just add his wikiname to the page i linked 20.12.24 # okay 20.12.32 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 20.12.34 # thanks 20.13.21 Join webguest96 [0] (i=506cfacd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.15.02 # I did 20.15.04 # that's it? 20.15.15 # yes, after you save it should be fine 20.15.54 # You have to be a member of that group to be able to edit the wiki, and by adding a wiki-name to that list, you will be added to the group. :) 20.16.30 # okay 20.16.48 Quit PaulJam (".") 20.20.27 # I just noticed that the OldPluginsIndex page is empty again ... 20.20.36 # * bluebrother votes for removing the favorites plugin 20.20.47 # burn it! 20.20.52 # and snake 20.23.04 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.24.23 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 20.28.43 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-25-126.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.31.11 Quit Trunksi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.32.00 Join tucoz_ [0] (n=martin@233.84-48-89.nextgentel.com) 20.36.17 Quit tucoz (Nick collision from services.) 20.37.10 Part tucoz_ ("Leaving") 20.40.20 Quit webguest96 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.40.28 Quit powr-toc ("Leaving") 20.41.45 Join linolium [0] (n=linolium@S01060080ad789336.vw.shawcable.net) 20.43.17 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 20.43.51 # heey, I am in the filelist of rockbox but all my files start with things like "Third Eye Blind - Some Album - " and then the track number and name. Is there any way to cut off all the front stuff so I don't have to scroll to each one to see what the name is? 20.44.25 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.44.32 Part DanManners 20.45.14 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 20.45.27 # linolium: You can either bulk-rename your files (I'm sure others can suggest applications to do that) or use Rockbox's tagcache feature to view files by their tags rather than the filenames. 20.46.46 # linuxstb: how easy is it to hack the source code and recompile? 20.47.28 # This easy: ---> <--- 20.47.57 # ... I don't speak arrow 20.48.28 # If you're not reasonably familiar with (C) programming, it is a little harder than that... :) 20.48.36 # How easy depends on your skill - which I don't know... But if you're familiar with C programming and compiling in general, then I would say it's easy. 20.49.10 # ok.. I am thinking something like "if all files in a directory start with x characters, don't show them in menu" 20.49.35 # You should search the patch tracker - I have a feeling someone may already have written such a patch. 20.49.47 # that would be nice.. 20.50.02 # Although it will be old, so may need adjusting for the current source. 20.50.26 # um, this may be a stupid question, but is the code the same for all platforms, or is it forked for each one ..? 20.50.37 # It's one source tree. 20.50.57 # does it compile for each one based on bits of specific code? 20.51.10 # linolium, you could probably hack the function that hides files starting with a period... 20.51.49 # Yes. Which files are compiled for a particular build is controlled by the SOURCES files in each directory, plus #ifdefs within the files control the actual code. 20.52.31 # does that end up being mostly the low-level stuff? 20.54.25 # Mostly, yes. 20.54.55 # But the high-level code needs to adapt to the hardware - mono/colour LCD, LCD size, the number of available buttons etc. 20.55.40 # sounds like a massive undertaking 20.56.23 # Rockbox is almost 5 years old now and we have over 200 people in the CREDITS file who have contributed in some way... 20.57.19 # I just wish it supported battery charging and firewire on my monochrome ipod 20.58.16 # The ipod port is new, as you probably know, and there are not many people working on any low-level stuff. 20.58.21 Join webguest81 [0] (i=917408d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.58.33 # So you would be more than welcome... 20.58.51 # I wish I had the skills.. 20.59.09 Quit webguest81 (Client Quit) 21.01.24 # Lear: Looks like it was my build server which failed on the H100 build. I'm running 3.4.4 - did you say it compiled fine on 3.4.6? 21.01.54 # Yes. 3.4.5 is fine too. 21.02.12 # Yes, just noticed that. I guess we need to make 3.4.5 the minimum version then... 21.04.40 # I'm upgrading now. 21.05.03 # Have you tried any higher bitrate AAC files? 21.05.41 # Only 192 kbps. I only have like 3 files that actually play... 21.05.52 # That one played too, with a little higher boost ratio. 21.07.46 # Are you running CVS or your metadata parsing patch? 21.07.56 # I'm assuming you never committed that? 21.08.33 # No, it isn't committed, but I do use it locally. 21.08.51 # Ouch, lots of warnings... 21.09.10 # A little more interested in finishing it up now though... 21.09.37 # I thought I had fixed that warning... 21.10.28 # Wait a few minutes until you commit again though - give me chance to upgrade my gcc. 21.10.35 # (it's compiling now) 21.11.00 # Ah, forgot to reapply that fix... 21.11.25 # In fact, it's done.. 21.11.42 # Anyone know if there's an easy way to install Ipod linux how that I have rockbox installed? 21.12.39 # The only easy way is to use the IPL installer - which I expect requires you to uninstall the Rockbox bootloader first. 21.13.23 # But after you install IPL using their installer, you simply need to unzip rockbox.zip to your ipod, and the IPL bootloader will detect it and give you a menu option for it in the boot menu. 21.14.10 # Hi! Could I make a developer having a look at my (essentially 4 line) patch that speeds up skipping on players decoder chip? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6052 21.14.28 Join daemon^ [0] (n=oo1@88-109-19-146.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 21.15.03 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.15.14 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD74AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.15.27 Join BigMac [0] (n=ubuntu@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 21.15.32 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 21.16.44 # MHen: Is that specific to the Player, or all Archos (i.e. hwcodec) devices? 21.17.06 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 21.17.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.18.18 # That sould be all devices that use mpeg.c, i.e. all with CONFIG_CODEC != SWCODEC, i.e. all Archos. 21.19.42 # The approach looks a bit odd 21.19.49 # I don't know how much impact this change would have on other devices than the Ondio (which I own). But here, I can reduct responsiveness (when skipping at the very beginning of the song) from a few seconds, say 5 to 0.5. 21.19.56 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 21.20.01 Quit daemon^ (Remote closed the connection) 21.20.21 # Yeah, Ondio 'disk' reading is quite slow (but it's as fast as it can go) 21.20.46 # Or let's say from 3 to 0,5. 21.20.51 # MHen: I would think that it would be better to handle the case within the mpeg thread itself 21.22.19 # You mean, the thread should scan the whole queue, look if there is any skip command in it and then discarding all unnecessary reads? 21.22.56 # Scanning the whole queue every time would be quite time consuming. I'd say that deleting these reads when inserting the skip is fine. 21.23.17 # is it me or did Hotmail get worse the last couple of days? 21.23.30 # Hotmail doesn't even send In-Reply-To headers with mails anymore 21.23.44 # MHen: Scanning the whole queue would be weird, no. 21.24.00 Quit rr3tzbach (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.24.40 # And inserting the skip at the beginning ("overtaking the reads") would mess up things. 21.24.53 # 'skip' could set a flag somewhere that the disk loader part could check, 21.25.29 # and if the loader finds this flag set, it could stop the load operation and quench all MPEG_NEED_DATA events 21.25.51 # Same thing could be done for 'stop', btw 21.28.54 # Do you think I should it rewrite that way and update the patch that way or should I ask for a second opinion on that matter? 21.32.54 # amiconn: can you take a look at this? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/fontbuffer.patch 21.33.11 # I want to make the fontbuffer size configurable 21.34.22 Quit DrMoreau () 21.36.31 Join mareviq [0] (i=magi@nat-mo1.aster.pl) 21.37.24 Join solarflare [0] (n=supernov@82-203-170-134.dsl.gohome.fi) 21.38.29 Join daemon^ [0] (n=oo1@88-110-10-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 21.39.51 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 21.41.10 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=chris@Fcfdf.f.strato-dslnet.de) 21.42.40 Quit spiorf (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.43.09 Quit SereR0kR (Remote closed the connection) 21.43.19 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 21.50.08 Join Joely [0] (n=kororaa@adsl-68-72-89-64.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 21.51.53 Join _eckobar_ [0] (n=eckobar@h081217129137.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 21.52.05 # <_eckobar_> hi guys 21.52.06 # <_eckobar_> ! 21.52.25 # hello! i'm just wondering for a flash based media player that rockbox supports....which is the best supported? 21.52.42 # would that be the ipod nano? or is there something cooler? 21.53.18 # first, you have to define "best". ;-) 21.53.29 # afaik the only flash based devices that are supported are the nano and the ondio. 21.53.48 # except then new nano 21.55.04 # <_eckobar_> following problem: flashed my ipod video with current version of rockbox ... everything is working fine ... great work men ... BUT ... i have bought me a power socet adapter for direct loading my battery without pc .... when i connec to power socket, pod recognize usb connection restarts .... recognize usb connection ... restart and so on .... BUG ??? 21.56.09 # Hey 21.56.11 # I have a question. 21.56.21 # Why is it when I use rockbox, It shows Ipod_Control, rockbox.ipod, etc files? 21.56.26 # How do I hide them. 21.56.39 # long click on menu 21.56.49 # then change it to only display supported files or media files 21.57.51 # kk 21.58.04 # Is there anyway to play Roms? <_< 21.58.07 # On a nano? 21.59.25 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 21.59.31 # Roms like gameboy roms ? 22.00.01 # Yeah. 22.00.22 # And if I wanted to install like ... ipod linux would I have to uninstall rockbox? 22.03.30 # w0w 22.03.46 # The gcc team is actually fixing bugs... 22.04.13 # And it affects us? 22.04.43 # * amiconn received some mails concerning the bug when building m68k-elf-gcc on amd64 22.05.12 # Latest cvs should build on amd64 without kludge 22.05.20 # bah.. the new recording code is fixed 44100 even for spdif.... what a stupid bug to make... 22.05.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6061 22.06.11 # amiconn: what do you think of a variable font buffer? 22.06.31 # What problem would it solve? 22.06.40 # * amiconn didn't notice any font related problems 22.07.00 # continuous disk spinning for korean users for example 22.07.13 # hmm... 22.07.44 # How does the code calculate the necessary size of the font buffer? 22.08.31 # I don't know what you mean. What is there to calculate? 22.08.46 # How big the buffer should be... 22.09.53 # It should be big enough to fit at least 1 glyph. You can make it as big or small as you want. 22.10.05 # User settable option? 22.10.19 # Yes, just like the other things in the 'limits' menu I think 22.10.25 # But that's not in my patch yet 22.10.27 # hmm... 22.10.32 # * amiconn doesn't lik ethe idea 22.10.44 # * markun thought you wouldn't :) 22.11.08 # Can you tell me why? 22.11.40 # Because it adds another option? 22.11.48 # Well, the directory and playlist buffer limits are relatively straightforward, and even these already caused confusion 22.12.05 # How should an average user know how large the font buffer should be? 22.12.26 Join Febs [0] (n=shortcho@c-69-249-241-66.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 22.13.07 # Ihmo that's way too technical to be useful 22.13.36 # Do you think the koreans should compile their own rockbox version with a different MAX_FONT_SIZE? 22.13.43 # nope 22.14.12 # If you find a way to estimate the necessary font buffer size, it might be helpful 22.14.44 # People not understanding what these limit values are often set weird values, then wonder why things don't work as expected 22.15.24 # couldn't the font format be extended to contain the neccesary buffersize? 22.15.38 # We had several reports in the past where both the dir limit and the playlist size were set to max., and then people complained why rockbox rebuffers every few seconds, or why voice doesn't work 22.15.45 # (archos, obviously) 22.15.52 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.01 Join Febs_ [0] (n=shortcho@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 22.16.02 # I would say it depends on the number of most commonly used glyphs and the size of the glyphs in the font you use 22.16.29 # yes 22.16.44 # Maybe base it on the font size & codepage 22.17.02 # But what happens if you change the buffer size during playback? 22.17.07 # I could add some font statistics to the debug menu for example 22.17.18 # You can't 22.17.41 # You need to reboot for all the limits options to work, right? 22.17.57 # Yes, currently 22.18.07 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.171.60) 22.19.14 # I see no problem with that. It's much nicer than a fixed and arbitrary MAX_FONT_SIZE 22.20.55 # Hey 22.21.10 # anyone here know how I can play songs on my regular apple ipod nano, and rockbox at the same time? 22.21.14 # Like, the 'original' firmware. 22.21.29 Quit daemon^ (Remote closed the connection) 22.21.51 # Someone :( 22.22.00 # Reverie: I don't understand what you want 22.22.07 # Like, I want to run songs on rockbox 22.22.13 # and the 'original' ipod. 22.22.31 Quit Febs (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.35 # add them with iTunes and use TagCache 22.22.56 # k sec 22.22.58 # hmm what i want to do is use an ipod nano as a _firewire_ boot drive for my laptop..would this be possible with rockbox? 22.23.07 # Or what do you mean by 'at the same time'? 22.23.48 # Joely: what does it have to do with rockbox? 22.24.21 # well i'm wondering if the lack of firewire support for the nano is because of firmware or drivers 22.24.50 # and if it's firmware....would rockbox fix this? 22.25.49 # rockbox doesn't even have a USB driver for the nano, so if you can't use firewire rockbox will not fix that 22.26.09 # And I wonder if the nanos even have a firewire port... 22.26.22 # well through the dock connector... 22.26.54 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 22.26.55 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-149-50.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 22.27.36 # Joely: according to this site the nano doesn't support firewire: http://playlistmag.com/reviews/2005/09/ipodnanoaccessories/index.php 22.28.47 Quit scottder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.29.09 # Apparantly you can charge it via a firewire cable (at least the new nanos). 22.29.50 # markun, right, but i want to make a forth driver for my ppc based laptop to interface to an ipod nano through the dock<->firewire cable...and i just need to know about the firmware side of the ipod nano 22.30.03 # i need a driver on the other side 22.30.10 # so i guess it's a no? 22.31.15 # I guess so, but let me check a bit more 22.32.02 # i mean, if this sounds cool to someone for rockbox, i could try to help make a driver like that... 22.32.17 # just wanted to make sure the work wasn't already done before 22.32.22 # What is the reason you can't use USB btw? 22.32.41 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 22.32.51 # because those are filled with my mouse and other peripherials ;) 22.33.10 # Joely: look here: http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 22.33.27 # The nano doesn't have the TSB41AB1 like the other iPods 22.34.16 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 22.34.23 # ohhh it doesn't have the physical layout needed for it...ok 22.34.36 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 22.35.50 # wtf... backlight stays on when you switch on HOLD in the recording screen 22.36.59 # no wonder my battery dropped 25% during a 1:30 hour recording yesterday evening 22.39.55 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-170.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 22.41.47 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-2-241-70.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 22.42.10 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 22.42.19 Part MHen 22.42.29 # can somebody explain what the setting of Backlight (On Hold Key) means? And what use this has? 22.43.34 # if you set it to off backlight goes off when you switch hold on, on does the opposite, normal is supposed to just do the timeout 22.43.36 # i think it means what happens to the backlight when hold is switched on.. 22.44.05 # but normal does light up the backligtht when you toggle hold (and it then times out) 22.44.11 # why would enybody want backlight on when hold is on? to use it as a flashlight? 22.44.24 # anybody even 22.44.45 Quit linolium () 22.44.52 # idk, just another option for the heck of it, we have some pretty strange options... 22.44.58 # petur: I also can't imagine 22.45.21 # I'd rather want an option to switch on backlight on keypress even with hold on 22.45.31 # for monitoring purposes 22.45.45 # dont think it's possible on most devices (?) 22.46.17 # like hold electrically disconnecting buttons. 22.46.19 # don't know... are there any devices with a hardware key lock? 22.46.41 # not sure but I think at least some are 22.48.47 Quit Seed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.56 # speaking of options I was thinking of combining the recording screen on startup with the resume on startup with something like startup action with the choice of recording, resume, and possibly others. Any thoughts? 22.52.27 # ...too something... 22.52.36 # into even 22.53.01 # to be combined with a system to perform stuff at boot because of alarm 22.53.49 # the framework I mean, not user option(s) 22.54.12 # So there is alarm support coming? 22.54.19 # or maybe do the recording as a user option too 22.54.52 # I think LinusN is looking at it 22.55.24 # but maybe you want different things happening when you star manually and when alarm wakes it up. 22.55.38 # yes 22.56.11 # you could make it start recording at manual boot and/or alarm ;) 22.56.20 # The biggest problem is probably what to do when the alarm time approaches and the unit is already on 22.56.29 # yes 22.57.13 # hahaha that WAV header format sucks 22.57.24 # huh? 22.57.34 Quit MadDog011 (Remote closed the connection) 22.57.46 # looking to fix a bug in recording 22.58.08 # samplerate is hardcoded 44100 22.58.23 # header mod code was removed 22.58.31 # hey, hehe i have some questions still >< one about the firewire issue....one about rockbox in general! i don't know too much about the firewire standard...but is it _possible_ to emulate firewire through the dock connector in software or by just carrying a few data traces together (within a little dock connector accessory!) and also...are there any companies selling rockbox modified ipods/archos etc? 22.59.11 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.59.46 # It would only be possible if there's a firewire phy present on the board 22.59.53 # ...which I doubt 23.00.20 Quit _eckobar_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.00.28 # i'm saying could you put in an accessory on the dockport with firewire phy? 23.00.29 # haha 23.00.33 # i want to make something 23.00.34 # and i'm bored 23.00.59 # why don't you try to make a TV-out that connects to the headphone socket :p 23.01.04 # Anyway, in order to support usb and/or firewire within rockbox, we need (a) thorough knowledge about the PP <-> usb/firewire interfaces (no docs), and (b) someone to write an usb/firewire stack 23.01.07 # (device side) 23.01.14 # or join that thread in the forum... 23.01.48 # i can try to write a usb/firewire stack!!! haha i have nothing to do i probably would too 23.02.14 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-18-158.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.02.44 # and what do you mean no PP <-> usb/firewire interfaces? doesn't linux have drivers for PP(P?) over usb/firewire? 23.03.00 # PP = portalplayer 23.03.03 # ohhhhhh 23.03.03 # ok 23.03.05 # sorry 23.03.07 # i'm new to this! 23.03.35 # Portalplayer == system-on-a-chip with dual ARM7TDMI core and lots of integrated interfaces 23.03.43 # There are no public docs/data sheets 23.04.15 # (Portalplayer is also the company making the portalplayer SoCs) 23.05.03 Quit mirak (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.07.01 # are there any programs that PP has released like a public sdk that someone might be able to cleany reverse engineer? 23.07.02 # markun, amiconn, how about "protecting" the limits menu entry with a warning that splashes up upon entering that setting folder? 23.07.23 # like "change this settings only if you know what you are doing, otherwise keep out" 23.07.50 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-18-158.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.10.38 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 23.17.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.19.23 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 23.20.08 Quit nls (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different") 23.20.54 # hmm so has anyone found any JTAG off of the PP SoC? 23.21.20 # or anything exciting hardware wise? haha i'm wondering i should go out and buy one to play with :-D 23.22.06 # Bagder has a sansa with JTAG I think 23.22.33 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.25.23 # Joely: you can buy a Toshiba Gigabeat (F or X) :) It has a JTAG connector 23.27.56 # hmm so which is it i buy?? gigabeat or sansa!?!? 23.28.14 # The gigabeat isn't PP 23.28.21 # haha yeah i know that 23.28.39 # i'm not THAT much of a newbie :) 23.29.08 # but isn't the sansa? 23.29.12 # Joely: sansa has flash, the gigabeat a hdd 23.29.13 # it's pp5022? 23.29.31 # pp5024 I think 23.30.03 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-sandisk-connection.html 23.30.25 # Hey guys 23.30.30 # I got a few questions, could someone help me? 23.30.38 # just ask 23.30.51 Join webguest50 [0] (i=c3ec4b1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 23.30.55 # Kay 23.31.34 # First, I'd like to listen to my songs using the original 'firmware' (Like not rockbox, the original ipod stuff) how do I do this? I currently just have a folder named songs in my ipod nano that can be read and listen to music through rockbox only. 23.31.50 # Second, how do I have an option or something that lets me use the original first, and then boot up Rockbox if I do something special? 23.32.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_to_start_the_original_Apple 23.32.33 # for the second question: install the bootloader from ipodlinux 23.32.56 # I don't have to install ipodlinux? 23.32.58 # just the bootloader? 23.33.01 # yes 23.33.04 # kk 23.33.05 # * barrywardell still has a spare H10 with a broken hdd... 23.33.33 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 23.33.49 # Reverie: http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 23.33.58 # kay :o 23.34.06 # but um, that first thing isn't what I wanted exactly 23.34.15 # I want something that just loads up the original apple RIGHT away 23.34.20 # And I have to do something special to get rockbox 23.34.27 # Like, I mean the exact opposite of what it is right now 23.34.37 # barrywardell: i guess i'm not gonna be the first one to get my hands on your lovely little piece of hardware :-/ sigh...today is the first day! 23.34.51 # btw, when I used that loader thing, i got an error :/ 23.35.20 # Reverie: You can set a default firmware and a timeout in Loader2. That wiki page should describe the config file options. 23.36.40 # Wait, so question 23.36.43 # I just download that installer 23.36.45 # well i don't know how much use it would be to anyone without a hdd anyway 23.36.48 # Run it, and it's done? 23.36.48 # nothing more? 23.37.30 # Reverie: just try it 23.37.34 # I don't know about the IPL installer, but you can just downloader the bootloader itself and install it the same way you installed the Rockbox bootloader (just replace bootloader-xxxx.bin with loader.bin). 23.37.38 # I did, Nothing happens >_> 23.37.39 # if it doesn't work you can also ask in #ipodlinux 23.38.05 # k 23.38.45 # barrywardell, what's the interface of the hdd? 23.39.13 # it's zif. i think it's specific to hitachi drives 23.39.37 # but it looks like it's standard ide with a special connector 23.39.53 # so you could build an adaptor if you really wanted 23.40.18 # ohhhhh!! hehe that would be fun...but are there any more ports on it? 23.40.33 # maybe we could get some nonstandard external hookup for it 23.40.34 # haha 23.40.34 # amiconn: in the past, the spdif samplerate was measured just before recording start, but with the encoding framework, this should be done in audio_set_recording_options(). Any problems with that? 23.41.18 # It can't be done before recording start 23.41.32 # Where can I get the loader.bin file? 23.41.32 # I mean earlier than just before the start 23.41.46 # The input signal might not even be present yet 23.41.47 # I meant before recording to disk 23.42.05 # ah yes... enter rec screen, then connect 23.42.54 # Reverie: On the Loader_2 wiki page - under "Getting It" 23.42.57 # boy, this is not going to be easy to fix in the encoder framework :( 23.42.59 # k ty 23.44.21 # * petur wipes the remains of a dead mosquito from his LCD 23.44.25 Quit t0mas ("good night") 23.45.42 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-5-242.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 23.46.33 # one solution would be to do pre-recording purely in the WAV buffer and re-init the codec at recording start 23.47.31 # or even only run the codec during actual recording 23.49.55 # Ah, thanks I got it. 23.50.03 # But it doesn't ahve rockbox listed on the options to choose <_< 23.50.23 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.50.27 # hey barrywardell...do happen to have an JTAG or a RS232 connection on the H10? 23.51.07 # * petur sees that pre-recording is purely in WAV buffer... phew 23.51.40 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 23.52.11 # Joely: sorry was a little distracted elsewhere there. I don't know of any jtag or RS232. There are board scans http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH10Info 23.53.04 # Barry, do you know how to have rockbox as a option to choose? 23.53.15 # I just installed Loader 2 23.53.23 # I don't really understand the instructions <<; 23.53.27 Quit mareviq ("nie wszystko dioda co sie swieci...") 23.53.37 # http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 <- Near the middle it says something about Rockbox. 23.54.26 # * petur discovers he saw wrong :( 23.56.19 # i don't know anything about Loader 2