--- Log for 27.09.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 25 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.49 Join tucoz [0] (i=543059e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.02.58 # Just noticed that a lot of the .fmr files found on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FmPresetsEurope have that unicode marker in the beginning. Will the fmr parser handle this? 00.03.34 # Sorry for not rtfc 00.04.14 Quit XavierGr () 00.04.32 Part tucoz 00.04.36 # tucoz, from what I can see from the code no. 00.04.37 Quit stanelie ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.04.47 # bluebrother: it does 00.04.50 Join tucoz [0] (i=543059e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.05.00 Quit Trunksi (Nick collision from services.) 00.05.06 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 00.05.08 # ok, then I missed something ;-) 00.05.08 Nick Reverie is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 00.05.15 # It can handle them? 00.05.45 # I changed most of the files because I had some umlauts in my fmr 00.05.58 # ah. ok 00.06.05 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp13-113.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.06.09 # and then rockbox could display them :) 00.06.19 # All good then 00.06.38 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 00.06.49 # I wasn´t sure if it was you or Cassandra who fixed that section. 00.07.32 # still, I can't find anything that skips a bom in the fmr files. 00.08.18 # bom was the name of that byte sequence 00.09.20 # I'm trying in the sim ... 00.10.12 Part Paul_The_Nerd 00.10.18 # I don't now how but if you try the berlin.fmr - I could use the umlaut for the turkish radio station for example 00.11.06 # *know even 00.11.16 # nope, doesn't work. 00.11.30 # it's utf-8 00.11.32 # the first line gets ignored. 00.11.49 # pixelma, it works fine as long as the file is utf8 without a BOM. 00.12.12 # this means that there is a lot to do with the fmr files 00.12.14 # :) 00.12.43 # and that few people use them, as i have never heard anyone complain about this 00.13.00 # I still think it wworks with the downloaded files 00.13.15 # should try though too 00.13.18 # But in the berlin.fmr, Star Fm is probably skipped 00.13.26 # but the rest is working 00.13.38 # as the first frequency read is invalid 00.13.51 # because it includes the bom 00.16.21 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 00.16.30 # the fmr parser should skip a bom if present. 00.17.04 # that is probably the best solution 00.18.21 # did you use a downloaded file? 00.18.31 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 00.18.46 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.18.56 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 00.19.40 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.20.36 # has somebody got a X5V here? 00.21.27 # I added a bom manually to a fmr file 00.22.27 # I have some trouble with transfer speeds via USB ...is there something wrong? 00.22.34 # 2-6 mb/s maximum 00.23.30 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 00.25.55 Quit ender` (" Practical relativity: How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you are on.") 00.26.42 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.26.49 # vertic23: what do you get with the original firmware then? 00.27.42 # never tried 00.27.57 # hehe 00.28.12 # but I guess not much faster 00.28.17 # how can you say you are having trouble then? 00.28.29 # The transfer speed on X5 (and all targets which have a dedicated USB-ATA bridge) cannot depend on the firmware used. 00.28.38 # because I think that 6 mb/s is quite slow 00.28.44 # If USB works, the disk is completely out of CPU control 00.29.05 # good to hear 00.29.11 # what speeds do you get? 00.29.57 # I never measured. But maybe 6MB/s or so 00.30.31 # and those HDDs are capable of which speeds? 00.31.14 # That is when transferring music to my iriver h120 00.31.48 Quit obo ("bye") 00.31.52 # That was just an estimate. I think an album of 60-80MB would take around 5-8 seconds to transfer 00.32.24 # but I might be wrong 00.32.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6071 00.32.54 # * tucoz considers his help to be quite bad at the moment 00.33.02 # for the fmr issue. 00.33.10 # thanks :) 00.33.44 # does somebody want to look into it? 00.40.02 # I should really get some sleep now. 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Why didn't anyone say so? 02.24.20 # *rb 02.24.53 # Oh "someone once said", but I was sleeping I guess ;) 02.28.03 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.42.34 Join DrMoreau [0] (i=mewho@24.151.104.191) 02.42.38 # lo 02.43.39 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.44.30 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@03-210.netblk-38-96-210.coolaccess.net) 02.44.31 # * jhMikeS thinks standing on two legs is hard 02.44.47 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 02.44.47 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.44.53 # jhMikeS: especially if they're wiggling 02.45.01 # and trying to kick you off 02.45.04 Quit jaebird_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.45.42 # :D 02.50.06 Quit DrMoreau () 03.01.32 Join ablaze`1Haender [0] (i=proxi@dslb-088-076-139-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.07.16 Quit jaebird (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.12.39 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 03.14.43 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@38.96.210.3) 03.15.40 Join FruitwOOt [0] (i=fruitwoo@modemcable134.119-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.15.48 # Hi ! 03.16.25 # is it possible to see the Generation of your ipod from dmesg output ? (Linux) for example I've got Rev: 1.62 ... 03.16.39 # is that mean my ipod mini is first generation ? 03.18.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.19.06 # maybe it is the firmware version 03.26.58 Quit ablaze`1Haender ("lass dir sagen - die kampfmaschine plaziert ne panzermiene in deine gesangskabine, berrollt dich wie ne ganz massive schlamm) 03.27.02 # hey, does anyone have a...beat up iriver H10? i kinda need one to work on making a driver for collecting information and testing for a to-be coded filesharing program. of course, i'd be willing to pay for it...it's just i need one that's not as expensive. 03.28.13 Quit netmasta10bt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.29.06 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@zarathul.student.utwente.nl) 03.29.14 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.33.36 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@rn-was1a01.uwaterloo.ca) 03.34.19 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.34.51 Part pixelma 03.35.01 Quit Trunksi (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.08 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 03.35.13 Nick Reverie is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 03.49.00 Join Drkepilogue [0] (i=478df9b7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 03.49.03 # ay 03.49.14 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-223-145.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 03.49.19 # i got a big problem 03.49.25 # i was trying to turn on myipod 03.49.36 # and it gave me a sad face ipod icon thing 03.49.43 # it turned itself off 03.49.49 # and i decided to listen to the back 03.49.55 # turns out the HD is clicking 03.50.00 # does this mean the HD id dead? 03.57.30 Nick daurn|afk is now known as daurn (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 03.58.01 Join bgmrk [0] (n=little_b@bas1-toronto12-1167878847.dsl.bell.ca) 03.58.04 # yo yo 03.58.13 # i gots a question 03.58.31 # how likley is it that rockbox will come on the latest 30 GB zen? 04.00.23 # not very likly 04.00.27 # most people are happy with the GUI and stuff 04.00.37 # and theres no dev thats willing to work on it 04.00.40 # and crack it 04.01.14 # ok 04.01.19 # thanx 04.02.04 # :p 04.02.51 # wait wait.... 04.02.56 # from wikipedia...: 04.03.00 # Most work on the TMS320 processors is done using Texas Instruments proprietary toolchain. However, lately a department at the Chemnitz University of Technology has announced that they developed preliminary support for the TMS320C6x series in the GNU Compiler Collection. 04.03.30 # so you might get it if you stick around and help 04.03.31 # :) 04.04.09 # true, 04.04.12 # but you must remeber 04.04.21 # people code RB as free will 04.04.39 # so even if it si possible, are the dev willing to work on it? 04.05.51 # if i trick my friend into letting me borrow his zen.....hehe 04.06.09 # lolz 04.07.17 Quit FruitwOOt (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.14.04 # Slasheri: wake up! 04.17.06 Nick daurn is now known as daurnimator (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 04.18.15 Part tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 04.18.58 # bestbuy sells like no rockbox compatible players 04.19.04 # it's so upsetting 04.19.23 # I have extended warraty on my iriver if it ever breaks I will be screwed 04.19.34 # I guess I will have to demand an ipod nano or something 04.22.02 Part Joely 04.24.10 Quit jaebird (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.25.42 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@38.96.210.3) 04.33.13 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 04.42.38 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.44.13 Join coolego1 [0] (n=chris@cpe-24-195-131-63.nycap.res.rr.com) 04.44.49 # well, I got rockbox on my ipod 5G, but now I can't make it boot back to the original apple firmware by turning it off and holding menu while it boots... 04.45.39 # oh, nevermind, 15th time's the charm I guess 04.48.15 Join hippie23 [0] (n=hippie@dialup-4.242.186.14.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net) 04.48.34 # hello 04.48.38 # any1 around? 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06.33.02 Quit webguest53 (Client Quit) 06.42.34 # im gay 06.42.50 # err wow. 06.42.53 # Ok /amsg gets the entire tab list. 06.44.39 Join pabs_ [0] (n=pabs@ip68-100-248-22.dc.dc.cox.net) 06.48.12 Quit pabs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.49.21 Nick pabs_ is now known as pabs (n=pabs@ip68-100-248-22.dc.dc.cox.net) 07.00.45 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 07.18.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.20.46 Join soul [0] (i=4590c61b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 07.21.27 # hi 07.25.47 Quit soul ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.31.14 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 07.32.14 Join rock66m [0] (i=5483ff53@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 07.34.59 Join chendo_ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-9-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.36.54 # good morning 07.37.31 Quit chendo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.39.00 Join vertic23 [0] (i=bla@dslb-084-056-246-173.pools.arcor-ip.net) 07.39.04 Quit vertic420 (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.39.33 # medium 07.39.37 # afternoon 07.41.18 # 07:27 07.41.24 # im sitting in school 07.41.26 # 0. hour 07.41.48 # and ive got a problem with my rockbox :( 07.44.20 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-55-68.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.44.51 Join soultwister [0] (n=chatzill@host-69-144-198-27.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) 07.44.56 # my rockbox crashes when im running the tagcache initialization 07.44.59 # at about 80% 07.45.08 # with an error and a adress number 07.45.12 # rock66m: that is probably caused by a bad file 07.45.19 # anyone know how to increase font size 07.45.29 # you need to find that file and send it to us or debug with simulator 07.45.46 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-36-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 07.45.52 # how can i find it? 07.46.06 # try&error? :/ 07.46.07 # rock66m: you can remove half of the files to see if the problem is gone 07.46.18 Part nave7693 07.46.20 # and then restore half of that to narrow down the problem set 07.46.26 # or do you have an iriver? 07.46.31 # with remote 07.46.36 # my fonts are super small 07.46.44 # iriver h320 07.46.54 # ok, so you don't have an lcd remote.. 07.46.59 # no :( 07.46.59 # then there isn't much choice 07.47.05 # but i want one :) 07.47.11 # :) 07.47.20 # can i get one somewhere 07.47.28 # seperately 07.47.32 Quit chendo_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.47.33 # or there is.. i can provide you a logf enabled build 07.47.46 # then start tagcache initialization and go to the logf debug menu 07.48.07 # i remember, he writes down the analyzed files right? 07.48.10 # when it crashes, you can see how far it went, but remember that it's not realtime 07.48.19 # anyone here know how to make the fonts bigger 07.48.20 # yep, it prints the file names 07.48.43 # u need a specific bigger font 07.48.51 # then u can select it from the menu 07.49.13 # where do i get these font and where do u put them 07.49.31 # fonts sorry 07.49.32 # rock66m: compiling a build for you now.. should be ready soon 07.49.42 # well no 07.49.43 # stop 07.49.53 # hmm :D 07.49.58 # im actually sitting in school and have no possibility to take it home 07.49.58 # soultwister: on the daily builds link, there is the fonts package for download 07.50.07 # ill try to build it on my own @ home 07.50.10 # thanks 07.50.23 # ah, ok 07.50.28 # * rock66m didnt find the fonts THAT fast.. :/ 07.50.38 Join fejfighter [0] (n=jeffro21@d211-31-215-207.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 07.51.09 # i had another issue about rockbox on players with possible recording 07.55.36 # thanks scorche 07.55.51 # worked 07.56.13 # of course it did =) 07.56.48 # now i have one more problem my display dosnt use the whole screen 07.57.08 # what device do you have? 07.57.17 # 5g 60 gig 07.57.21 # ipod 07.57.37 # does it never use the whole screen or just when playing something? 07.58.21 # so far just the menu i havnt had time to check out games 07.58.44 # ti just put it on 20 minuets ago 07.58.55 # what exactly do you mean by "not using the entire screen" 07.59.14 # wait a sec 08.00.11 # my bad its fine 08.00.14 Quit Trunksi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.00.33 # where do i put the doom wad 08.00.52 # look in the wiki for the page "PluginDoom" 08.01.18 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-1-36.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 08.01.42 Part jhMikeS 08.02.22 # my ipod went to sleep then the fonts where small agian dang 08.03.50 Join chendo_ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-9-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.08.07 Quit soultwister ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 08.08.44 Quit chendo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.09.41 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 08.12.30 Quit chendo_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.12.56 # Morning! :) 08.13.33 # hm ... i wonder why i wanted to say "Good news everyone!" 08.15.09 # wel.. what's the news? 08.16.05 # that exactly what makes me wonder.. i have no knews :) 08.16.15 # s/knews/news 08.16.49 # may be i just dreamed of watching futurama on my mini :) 08.17.27 # :) 08.20.21 # in a rush, but has anyone reported any bugs with AAC playback over the alst few days? 08.20.46 # crashd: i have not seen any 08.21.06 # hmmm 08.21.16 # ill have to file a few when i get back from work then 08.21.55 # i am speaking of forums and irc though...not flyspray...simple search can take care of that =) 08.22.13 # I've seen a report in the forum 08.23.09 # i've got a coupla aac files that are from the same podcast, the early few load and play ok, then they start to take ages to load 08.23.14 # and the latest 2 just crash rockbox 08.23.18 # and im not quite sure why 08.23.36 # markun: which?...i cant remember one 08.23.40 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6623.msg52103#msg52103 08.25.02 # ah...i wrote that one off as something with fairplay, but now that i look over it again, it could be 08.29.04 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-9-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.30.11 Join netmasta10bt [0] (n=torment@pool-71-251-122-245.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 08.35.15 Join Mordov|hardlywo [0] (n=mordov@mail.furuno.no) 08.49.47 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 08.50.27 Quit netmasta10bt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.59.32 # wouldnt it be cool if i would be able to put in my headset for my mobile phone into my rockbox and rb would automatically mute the music and i could listen to my phone over the same headspeakers/earphones?! 08.59.56 Quit rock66m ("CGI:IRC") 09.00.08 # it would be... =) 09.18.10 # anyone knows how can i do somthing like " mkdir $(some command)" in windows cmd? 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11.11.57 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-28-84.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.18.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.19.35 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.25.31 # * pondlife surveys the tumbleweed 11.25.35 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.26.35 Quit Life^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.26.41 # * petur rolls along 11.26.57 # Morning petur 11.27.10 # yo 11.27.19 # Did you try any more recording in the last 24 hours? 11.27.23 # nice fixing you've been dooing 11.27.30 # doing even 11.27.37 # If it is fixing, and not breaking 11.27.47 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 11.27.47 # no, no recording yet 11.28.08 # Just wondered. I thought that you or jhMikeS would sound the alarm if I broke it. 11.28.16 # ;) 11.28.26 # So I'll continue onwards until I hear bells 11.29.20 # Have another show to record on monday, I'm sure I'll test before then :p 11.29.32 # Please do. And not at the show. 11.30.18 # maybe I get some time free tomorrow... life is way too busy here atm 11.31.18 # * petur rolls away again ;) 11.32.46 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-136-12.perm.iinet.net.au) 11.37.18 Quit theli_ua (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.38.31 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust438.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 11.39.23 # Is storing a 260 char string in the config block a bit too big? 11.39.32 # (for the recording path) 11.39.33 # I fear yes 11.39.46 # yeah.... I thought as much 11.39.54 # wait until settings are stored in cfg files 11.40.03 # ahh well....into the REP it goes.... 11.40.31 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 11.40.38 # does it even work? don't know how much space is left in the config block 11.40.40 # The config block is 512 bytes... 11.40.42 # (in total) 11.41.29 # ooh, so 260 is BIG... 1 byte per char right? 11.41.59 # hmmm isn't it unicode? 11.42.01 # Depends how it's encoded. With utf8 I think it can be up to 3 or 4 bytes. 11.42.26 # hmmm, I'm surprised it works then.. 11.42.47 # But MAX_PATH still assumes 1 byte=1 char afaik. 11.42.54 # right! 11.43.03 # so it must be pushing it then... 11.43.38 # * Mmmm likes to live life on the edge :D 11.44.00 # Don't even think about committing such a thing to CVS though... 11.44.12 # hahaha 11.44.13 # Don't worry, I won't 11.44.23 # * linuxstb_ unloads his gun 11.46.16 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-136-12.perm.iinet.net.au) 11.47.38 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46622.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.48.40 # what's scary is that you could probably hit me with that gun..you're only a few miles away! :D 11.49.02 # * Mmmm had better be careful... 11.53.01 # :) 11.57.06 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.00.15 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@promi22.zmms.TU-Berlin.DE) 12.01.03 Nick gtkspert_ is now known as gtkspert (n=gtkspert@203-59-136-12.perm.iinet.net.au) 12.11.07 Quit petur ("lunch!") 12.23.17 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549666DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.24.17 Join netmasta10bt [0] (n=torment@pool-72-64-226-220.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 12.27.44 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 12.28.18 # Any objections to getting rid of the favourites plugin? 12.28.50 # I consider that plugin redundant and useless as we have such a good playlist system in core rockbox 12.30.00 # tucoz, I suggested the same some days ago ;-) 12.30.31 # hehe, I think nls also suggested it a couple of days ago as well 12.30.44 # or maybe that was you 12.30.51 # seems like someone just needs to do it ;-) 12.30.56 # probably 12.31.27 # I can do it, but wanted to get the blessing to do so first 12.36.24 # tucoz: yes, I would wait for one of the oldtimers :) 12.37.05 # maybe it's someones favorite plugin 12.37.45 Quit Nibbier (Remote closed the connection) 12.37.53 # Does the "playlist catalog" feature replace it? 12.38.00 # I also would like to delete some fonts 12.38.01 # * linuxstb_ hasn't used either 12.38.27 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-73-41.dynamic.qsc.de) 12.38.31 # the favorites plugin just lets you select the currently playing file and adds it to a favorite playlist 12.39.15 # the playlist catalog does basically the same but also allows you to select folders and allows to pick a playlist to save to. 12.41.07 # If a user who loves the favourites plugin complained about it being deleted, what would you say to him/her? 12.41.20 # use the playlist catalog 12.41.40 # Is that as easy as the favourites plugin? 12.41.47 # probably not 12.41.49 # * linuxstb_ is playing devil's advocate 12.42.00 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.42.06 # * tucoz feels more and more pushed into the corner 12.42.17 # PC: go to the context menu, select "Playlist Catalog" 12.42.33 # Favorites: go to the main menu, plugins, select "favorites" 12.42.35 Join rocknoob [0] (i=3ce4afef@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 12.42.49 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 12.42.57 # hey could sum1 help me? 12.43.13 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-9-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.43.14 # PC can do more than the favorites plugin and doesn't require to load something ;-) 12.43.14 # does anyone know where i can download rockboy? 12.43.26 # rocknoob, it's in the rockbox distribution. 12.43.32 # markun, do you know how fonts are other character systems. Is times for instance available in arabic? 12.43.52 # tucoz, rasher has an overview on his page. 12.44.04 # yes, but this was just a general question 12.44.15 # erm.. wheres rockbox distribution? 12.44.20 # ok, then I missed the point ;-) 12.44.28 # tucoz: I think the times from MS has arabic 12.44.29 # rocknoob, the rockbox.zip you downloaded. 12.44.36 # not rockbox specific. do they adopt the western fonts to arabic, chinese etc 12.44.43 # but I have no idea what it would look like 12.45.03 # me neither. i just know you have an interest in fonts :) 12.45.25 # making greek glyphs in the Chicago style was already quite difficult 12.45.32 # tucoz: I've just tried the playlist catalog, and deleting the favorites plugin gets my vote.... 12.45.38 # the "common" fonts should all be available as unicode and include that glyphs. 12.45.49 # I have also added arabic, but didn't commit it yet because the font becomes very big 12.46.00 # linuxstb_, Ok. cool. 12.46.33 # i.e. You initially select "playlist catalog", "add to new playlist" and then create a new playlist called "Favorites". After that, you select "playlist catalog", "add to playlist" and then select "favorites" from the list of playlists. 12.46.53 # yes, the plugin must be quite old 12.47.03 # tucoz: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/nimbus-arabic.png 12.47.05 # bbl 12.47.40 # There are some right-to-left bugs.. 12.48.00 # wow, that is in rockbox 12.48.14 # did you add those glyphs? 12.48.20 # yes 12.48.30 # cool 12.48.36 # If only we had some arabic users :) 12.48.58 # Well, we have saab, but I didn't see him for a while 12.49.11 # no-one on rashers list? 12.49.18 # And he needs Chinese support too, which I won't add :) 12.49.26 # but there might be some in the western countries 12.49.54 # There is someone who lives in the arab emirates, but he doesn't speak arabic :) 12.49.55 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 12.50.33 # ah, 2 now even, and 1 in saudi arabia 12.50.42 # where do i get rockboy, sum1 pla help me 12.51.01 # rocknoob: it should be included with rockbox 12.51.04 # so your work is not futile 12.51.23 # got to go. see you 12.51.26 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 12.51.33 # but I see the plugins are still not in the daily builds.. 12.51.40 # * linuxstb_ wonders why the playlist catalog creates playlists in /Playlists and not /.rockbox/playlists... 12.51.59 # linuxstb_: do you know something about that? 12.52.14 # rocknoob: download a build from http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml 12.52.28 # Down under "Bleeding edge builds" 12.52.52 # ok thanks 12.53.25 # linuxstb_: That should be changed 12.53.47 # i got i two last questions : does rockboy only play gameboy and gameboy colour games? and also where do i put those roms? 12.53.52 # Along with Doom requiring a /GAMES directory , if that hasn't already been done. 12.54.58 # Do you think committing http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5903 would be a good idea? Being devil's advocate...? 12.56.02 # markun: Yes, daily builds for Coldfire targets are broken until the gcc version on www.rockbox.org is upgraded. CVS builds are fine. 12.56.32 # where do i put the gameboy roms on my ipod? sumone please help 12.56.38 # Anywhere you want to. 12.57.14 # But to keep things tidy, you could create a folder called "games", and then inside there create a folder called "Rockboy", and put them there. But it's up to you. 12.57.43 # ok then thanks 12.59.03 # pondlife: I've just had a thought about that. How about having a ".rockbox/system/" and ".rockbox/user/" folders? Everything distributed in the official builds would go in .rockbox/system/ (which would be read-only), and all config-files and user added files such as ROMs would go under .rockbox/user/ 12.59.18 # Good idea. 12.59.32 # So playlists would be user data... 12.59.53 # Easy to back up your config and not risk overwriting it when you upgrade. 13.01.31 Quit rocknoob ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.02.04 # The complication is that the "Browse XXX" options would need to show the contents of both the user and system folders... So a user would be able to put his/her own themes in .rockbox/user/ 13.02.09 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 13.03.07 # Of course. But that's not a big job, especially if the Browse Themes/WPS/Configs all use the same code (bit of an assumption I know).. 13.03.31 # It is a big job - the "browse" option just opens the standard file browser on a particular directory. 13.04.20 # Well, not that big, but it means changing the "browse" option so the it doesn't use the file browser. 13.04.30 # does rockbox even display the .rockbox directory with default settings? 13.04.34 # No 13.04.41 # Nor should it 13.04.54 # well, then it makes sense not to save user stuff in it 13.05.09 # That's why the browse options are in the menus 13.05.25 # We could just rename it to "Rockbox" - would solve the problems GUI unix users have... 13.05.35 # (mainly thinking Mac OS X) 13.05.52 # the .rockbox dir is fine for system stuff 13.05.58 # but not for games, playlists, etc 13.06.04 # those should be saved in other places, if you ask me 13.06.29 # mainly because .rockbox will be hidden in all default setups, both for rockbox and oses 13.06.32 # apart from windows, that is 13.06.48 # I don't much seeing /GAMES /RECORDINGS /PLAYLISTS etc. in my root... 13.06.55 # don't much like... 13.06.55 # does rb just use . to hide things, or does it check the H attribute too? 13.07.08 # preglow: .rockbox isn't hidden on windows 13.07.23 # amiconn: that's why i said "apart from windows, that is" 13.07.48 # * amiconn didn't read the 2nd lin 13.07.51 # e 13.09.23 Quit Mordov|hardlywo (Remote closed the connection) 13.09.38 Quit Mmmm ("Lunch") 13.10.05 # nuidelyn: It checks the H attribute too. 13.10.37 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.11.11 Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) 13.11.29 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@140.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) 13.11.31 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 13.14.11 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp90.contactor.se) 13.14.48 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549666DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.16.31 # linuxstb_, have a minute? 13.18.30 # hm .. strange .. i've implemented direct rendering into iPod's video framebuffer .... in sim it works some times slower ..... :( 13.18.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.18.53 # I wouldn't worry about the sim... What's it like on the target? 13.19.48 # i wanted you to test 13.19.49 # :) 13.20.06 # Test what, and on what target? 13.20.34 # zxbox on video 13.20.56 # OK, let me see what CVS zxbox is giving me... 13.21.00 # ok 13.22.26 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@promi22.zmms.TU-Berlin.DE) 13.23.46 # linuxstb_, http://theli.ho.com.ua/video/zxbox.rock 13.23.56 Join webguest25 [0] (i=d55c4981@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.24.07 # hi all 13.24.40 # hiya 13.24.48 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932D40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.25.37 # I've seen that in rockbox source is included 'dumb library' for mod/s3m/xm files 13.25.56 # but why is not compiled with it? 13.27.39 Join webguest20 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.28.43 # markun: on Rusher's page there is a map for nimbus-19. Will this font be included into the official RB font pack? 13.28.59 # webguest25: I'm guessing because there's no working plugin/codec which uses it. 13.29.24 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.30.29 # webguest20: yes 13.30.32 # linuxstb: therefore is just a cut&paste of dumb source without any work? 13.31.02 # webguest25: I can't remember - maybe some work has been done. 13.31.39 Quit spiorf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.32.09 # i've found another codec based on an old player 13.32.25 # that works fine but is only for .mod files and <486KB 13.33.07 # better than nothing however! 13.34.28 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 13.34.57 # linuxstb:thanks for the feedback 13.35.01 # markun: fine! When? Because after experimenting with different fonts and themes I've created a very simple theme that only shows artist, sing title, and progress bar. And that theme would look nice with nimbus-19 13.35.01 # bye to all 13.35.36 # theli_ua: Do you have a test .rock for me? With 0 frameskip and no sound, I'm getting about 52% in Chuckie Egg. 13.35.53 # http://theli.ho.com.ua/video/zxbox.rock 13.36.00 # i've already posted :) 13.36.20 # So you have... :) 13.36.34 # webguest20: when Alexander Levin is happy about the font I will commit it 13.36.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5967 13.37.12 Part webguest25 13.37.16 # linuxstb, 52% with my rock? 13.37.21 # With CVS 13.37.26 # ah 13.38.02 # linuxstb, so i wonder what are the results with mine :) 13.38.34 # linuxstb, cause in sim that causes too significant decrease in speed 13.38.42 # markun: who is Alexander Levin? And when will he be happy? And what should happen for him to be happy? 13.39.02 # check the link 13.39.25 # markun: sorry, didn't notice the next post 13.39.32 # np 13.39.45 # theli_ua: 74% with your new rock and frameskip=0. 100% with frameskip=1. 13.40.02 # But the screen is corrupted when you exit the menu... 13.40.12 # linuxstb, hm ... so on target it's faster .... 13.40.24 # linuxstb, corrupted in what way? 13.40.37 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-142-155.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.40.47 # markun: well, he's not unhappy. He's uncertain (see his last question). What do you think about the font? If you're happy I think he'll also be happy :-) 13.40.59 # markun: and then I'll also be happy 13.41.01 # :) 13.41.02 # Parts of the screen itself are not updated (between the first and third lines of text at the top of the Chuckie Egg screen), plus the border isn't cleared to black. 13.41.45 # linuxstb, .. ah i see .... maybe a solution will be to make a copy of framebuffer and restore it after menu exit ... 13.41.59 # not very nice though :/ 13.42.10 # Or keep the old "full-update" function? 13.42.22 # (I've no idea how you've changed it...) 13.43.19 # linuxstb, i removed it 13.43.27 # markun: so will you add your opinion to the patch? 13.43.52 # linuxstb, now screen gets rendered here http://rafb.net/paste/results/w0Qhcz45.html 13.44.40 # Could you call that function on every line? 13.46.03 # yes, i think so 13.46.21 # webguest20: there is a ttf Chicago font. I should probably check how they do it first 13.46.31 # btw, linuxstb, on that paste i posted is there anything that can be made better (in terms of speed) ? 13.47.38 # markun: ok, then I'll patiently wait 13.49.03 # theli_ua: The loops could be written in assembler - to make use of burst-mode memory reads/write. That would probably give a noticable speedup. 13.49.40 # linuxstb, gcc chould unroll that loops 13.50.48 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 13.51.02 # You could look at the assembly (try arm-elf-objdump -D apps/plugins/zxbox/filename.o) to see what it's doing. 13.51.23 # linuxstb, i wonder i that that macros with uint64 that make such big difference on sim ... 13.51.27 # theli_ua: I still wonder why you are using 64 bit integers 13.51.31 # But I don't think gcc will optimise those kinds of functions as well as a human could do. 13.51.36 # I would expect using 32 bit ints to be faster 13.52.01 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 13.52.38 # amiconn, just because original rendering uses writing 4 bytes at one time 13.52.54 # 4 pixels 13.54.46 # * amiconn doesn't see the connection 13.54.58 # :) 13.55.36 # You need to process the input data anyway, correct? 13.55.51 # it was easier for me not changing original spectemu here much 13.56.13 # ???? 13.56.28 # I am just talking about the function you pasted, nothing else 13.57.30 # what variables exactly are you talking about? 13.57.36 # all uint64s? 13.58.33 # yes 13.58.56 # I wouldn't use 64 bit ints on a 32bit platform unless it's absolutely necessary 13.59.35 # ...and I don't see the necessity here 13.59.46 # amiconn, originall function used int32 for representing 4pixel block .. for first test i just wanted not change it much 13.59.59 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp90.contactor.se) 14.00.18 # Yes, the _source_ pixel block contains 4 pixels in 32 bits 14.00.46 # ...but that doesn't stop you from using 32bit ints to represent the converted pixels as well 14.00.57 # You just need to convert in 2 steps 14.01.14 # ah .. i understand what you are talking about :) 14.03.18 Quit fejfighter () 14.03.28 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 14.04.45 Quit secleinteer ("Don't worry, I'll be back") 14.05.30 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 14.05.35 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@85.64.207.9.dynamic.barak-online.net) 14.08.09 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=chris@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de) 14.08.28 Quit SereR0kR (Remote closed the connection) 14.08.53 Join ttl_work [0] (n=ttl-@87.66.117.145) 14.09.02 # hi everybody 14.09.51 # yesterday installed rockbox on my Iriver H320 and i must say it rocks ! 14.10.45 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-223-145.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 14.19.10 # is it possible to play video on my H320 ? 14.20.26 # Yes. Either 1) Use the iriver firmware; or 2) Play with Rockbox's still in development mpegplayer plugin - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 14.22.23 # why is the mpegplayer plugin updated so seldom now :( 14.22.41 # Because you're not working hard enough... 14.22.56 # and a good add would be that rockbox would show the tags on the playlist, so if i make a playlist of my ipod_control/music, then i would see the names of the songs 14.23.02 # they are KCXM and so on now :p 14.23.11 # Then save your files with proper filenames. 14.23.29 # i could use the same as the apple os uses, if it would show them 14.23.33 # It's not Rockbox's fault that you choose to use a system that mangles your data. 14.23.44 # hehe 14.23.59 # hello ppl 14.24.04 Quit webguest20 ("CGI:IRC") 14.24.05 # An m3u playlist is simply a list of filenames, so that's what Rockbox displays at the moment. 14.24.20 # hm 14.24.41 # while we're bashing apple, here's something to think about for all you ipod freaks: http://www.greenpeace.org/apple/ 14.24.56 # Can't you just use tagcache to get a list of all tracks on your player? 14.25.33 # lex: something you might find useful, just yesterday I wrote an iTunesDB to Tag Cache convertor 14.25.47 # convertor ? 14.26.00 # converter 14.26.02 # :O 14.26.03 # wow 14.26.07 # I can never spell that right 14.26.10 # well i mean, what does it do ? 14.26.16 # rename files or.. ? 14.26.19 # petur: very surprising, that, very... 14.26.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ConvertiTunesDBtoTagCache 14.27.19 # kclaf: it generates a Tag Cache database with the same data as is in the iTunesDB 14.27.50 # ah 14.28.01 # doesnt rockbox do that already ? 14.28.12 # when it scans hard drive for mp3 files 14.28.23 # it generates the tag cache database 14.28.32 # a) I don't like the scanning b) my files aren't tagged well 14.29.05 # ok 14.29.39 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-7-123.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.33.14 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 14.34.10 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.35.45 # lex: just run a masstagger over your files 14.36.01 # whcih renames files arcording to tags 14.36.11 # Kohlrabi: but my apple os won't like it 14.36.20 # why not? :( 14.36.24 # Then complain to Apple about it... 14.36.31 # i have a script that does it the other way around 14.36.34 # you could then use foo_pod to regenerate the iTunesDB 14.36.34 # i organize the files by name 14.36.40 # just mv/cp them aroun 14.36.43 # *around 14.36.54 Join webguest38 [0] (i=5389f0d6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.36.57 # You have a script that reads filenames and writes tags by filenames? 14.37.10 # and then i just run tagmusic 'Some.*Regexp that [match]{es, them}' 14.37.16 # :) 14.37.24 # I just run foobar and have all-in-one :p 14.37.30 Quit webguest38 (Client Quit) 14.37.40 # + mediaplay for wavpack-in-matroska 14.37.44 # player* 14.37.52 Join mirak13 [0] (i=56cbbe0b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1b5d79198fd6d6ff) 14.37.53 # some small scripts around rsync that sync it to my MP3 player, laptop, jukebox :) 14.38.00 # ah 14.38.06 # thats good :) 14.38.10 # What advantage does wavpack-in-matroska give you compared to standard wavpack? 14.38.13 # I tried the iRiver sync once 14.38.16 # Was broken iirc :) 14.38.25 # i just rsync to my h340 - works like a charm :) 14.38.31 # linuxstb: I can put file sinto the matroska 14.38.37 # files into* 14.38.46 # I don't know any application that would think a library with a dap on UMS. 14.38.46 # cd-ocovers, text, log, cues, iso 14.38.50 # Whatever I like 14.38.59 # And still have a single file with chapters 14.39.12 # What's wrong with just using your normal filesystem and putting all the files in a directory? 14.39.26 # And I can just extratct the cue and the stream and burn a 1:1 copy of the CD 14.39.33 # I don't like that 14.39.37 # ping 14.39.51 Join mirak14 [0] (i=56cbbe0b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.39.53 # one medium = 1 file 14.39.55 # * linuxstb will never understand why people make life complicated for themselves... 14.39.55 Quit mirak13 (Client Quit) 14.39.57 # I like that 14.40.13 # it's not more complicated than having multiple files lying around 14.40.16 # one medium = 1 folder 14.40.20 # yep 14.40.25 # I have that for my vorbis files 14.40.54 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 14.40.58 # matroska is a convenient way to have a 1:1 backup of your CDs 14.41.06 # imho :) 14.41.08 # It's just that you need special tools to put things in and take them out - if you just put them in a folder, you wouldn't need anything special. 14.41.21 # linuxstb, I just drag and drop, however there are some situations where it's not practical, for exemple, my music is stored as Artist>Albums>Songs . So if I want just one album and keep the Artist>Albums>Songs also on the dap, then I must create manually the artist folder, before putting the album 14.41.30 # ya 14.41.42 # and for a song you must create two folders 14.41.44 # I COULD write a noncompliant cuesheet and use multiple files 14.42.00 # don't like that 14.42.03 # Or since the files are lossless, you could say "as long as my burner is any good I don't need a cuesheet" 14.42.13 # hm? 14.42.19 # That's not the point :) 14.42.34 # Withoout cuehsheet I lose info about gaps 14.42.54 # So it's the same music, but not the same CD 14.43.00 # Just call me a fanatic ;) 14.43.32 # Do you actually have CDs that use nonstandard gaps other than 'gapless'? 14.43.41 # hm? 14.44.03 # If I take the multiple files 14.44.06 # I have no gaps 14.44.20 # If I burn them it's gapless (or 2 sec. gaps with nero) 14.44.25 # whatever I like 14.44.36 # with cuesheet it's defined how long they are 14.44.54 # it's just for backup purposes 14.44.58 # So there's a difference between gaps and silence at the start/end of the WAV files? 14.45.30 # a cd gap doesn't have to be silence 14.46.17 # "put away your girly magazines" 14.46.38 # I actually have multifile backups of CDs 14.46.45 # whcih are annoying 14.47.03 # I have to convert every track according to cuesheet name 14.47.05 # to wav 14.47.10 # to burn it with EAC 14.47.26 # it's much more convenient to have a range and cue 14.47.37 # no hampering with names 14.47.39 # preglow: So what is a "gap" if it's not silence? 14.48.05 # linuxstb: in the cd world, it's just a gap between tracks that doesn't really belong to any of the tracks 14.48.12 # called pregap, i believe 14.49.16 # So it's "played" when transitioning between tracks, but not if you skip to the start of a track? 14.49.20 # yup 14.49.38 # and the track time of the track before it does not include the gap 14.49.47 # normally it's used to hide tracks 14.49.53 # hidden tracks :) 14.49.55 # i can see my cd player actually counting backwards from the gap time to 00:00 when the gap is reached 14.49.58 # So are they common? (apart from hidden tracks) 14.50.01 # at 00:00 the next track starts 14.50.04 # oh, very common 14.50.21 # for hiding tracks, they're usually set as a pregap to the first track 14.50.21 # whenever -xx:xx appears on your player 14.50.29 # which many players don't support 14.50.39 # So why don't audio formats have a "pre-gap" tag for players to use? 14.50.47 # And couldn't a ripper rather easily include the pregap either at the end, or the beginning of, a song file if you wanted a truly lossless copy that was still multiple files? 14.50.49 # dunno 14.51.05 # sure 14.51.10 # the end of a track would be best 14.51.16 # aren't the pregap extracted ? 14.51.19 # Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, and I know at least EAC does, several ways 14.51.43 # hcs: My point just relates to Kohlrabi's whole using the desire to preserve the gaps as a reason he uses that awkward setup. 14.51.56 # where can i download the plugins, i want to install the jpeg plugin 14.52.03 # Are there postgaps as well, or just pregaps? 14.52.30 # ttl_work: It's already installed - just click on a .jpg file in the file browser. 14.52.45 # Kohlrabi: will you add matroska support to rockbox? Or do you just use Ogg Vorbis on you player? 14.53.02 # I use vorbis for portable :( 14.53.05 # amiconn, you meant something like this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/i75MAw59.html 14.53.17 # linuxstb, can you test one more build for me? :) 14.53.26 # Besides, I don't really have a clue how to write the code 14.53.44 # markun: are you, too, interested in matroska-support? 14.53.47 # theli_ua: Sure. Same URL? 14.53.57 # Kohlrabi: not really, just wondering 14.53.58 # I tried to do an album in a matroska container once, the extension was .oga or something like, but it crashed all the players. I wanted to preserv the track structure of an disck 14.54.01 # ah, OK :) 14.54.08 # I only use it for video 14.54.12 # yep 14.54.25 # linuxstb: i thought it was not because there are only 2 files in the /.rockbox/rocks directory 14.54.32 # linuxstb, yes just updated ... this one uses int32 14.54.59 # ttl_work: Try downloading the latest "cvs build" for your player. There are problems with today's and yesterday's "daily builds". 14.55.17 # linuxstb: maybe that should be the topic 14.55.28 # maybe I will use wavpack lossy for portable, if it saves battery and performs well on ABX 14.55.31 # linuxstb, I couldn't find a way to make libmpeg2 use iram buffers for macroblock decoding 14.55.34 # linuxstb: oh ok :) 14.55.37 # markun: I don't have that power... 14.56.31 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.57.33 # linuxstb, that one should alsa redraw screen upon menu exit 14.58.02 # *also 14.58.35 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 14.58.47 # theli_ua: It's about the same - 74%. But yes, the screen redraw is fine after using the menu. 14.59.35 # linuxstb, strange ... sim is much faster when using int32 :(\ 14.59.39 # someone implement an audio/video shared iram scheme! 15.03.18 # I'm not sure if it's a good idea, but I've been thinking a little about the idea of adding IRAM swapping in the kernel. i.e. multiple threads can claim the plugin IRAM, and the kernel will swap when necessary when taskswitching. But that would mean ensuring the switching doesn't happen too often... 15.04.22 # virtual iram? 15.04.50 # as long as we don't start using a pagefile and swap to disk ;) 15.06.35 # linuxstb: a malloc() like iram allocating function for arrays that can be reused between calls to different components would be easy to implement and work good if used with care 15.06.51 # stuff like the output buffer and internal buffers 15.06.57 # theli_ua: Yes, something like that. I _believe_ there's another possible optimisation, but I'm not sure. I'd have to check the arm assembly for both your version and my modification in order to see which one is better 15.12.39 Join ttl_wrk [0] (n=ttl-@87.66.117.145) 15.12.53 # it's really very ressource consumming to have a memory management similar to malloc ? 15.13.44 # it's unecessary 15.14.14 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.15.21 # amiconn, what is your modification? 15.15.32 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 15.15.49 # theli_ua: Do the shift before the masking. Then you can use the same mask for all 15.16.04 # It probably doesn't matter on arm, but maybe it does on coldfire 15.16.14 # preglow it wasn't my question 15.16.22 # amiconn,i can't test this :) 15.16.27 # I.e. instead of (qbyte)(x) & (qbyte)0xff000000) >> 24 15.16.57 # use ((qbyte)(x) >> 24) & 0xff 15.18.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.20.17 # this should speed this up? 15.20.44 Quit ttl_work (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.21.26 # It _might_ 15.22.38 Part Paul_The_Nerd 15.23.29 # smaller constants are always good anyway 15.23.36 # and common constants are always good for sure 15.24.56 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 15.26.50 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 15.27.57 # preglow: Yes, but it might be that it has no effect on arm (though it shouldn't make it worse either) 15.30.34 # so now i need put scaling into this and test it on h300 :/ 15.30.49 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.32.00 # amiconn: probably no effect on arm, no, but it will certainly not be any slower 15.32.05 # and we've got more platforms than arm 15.32.33 Join Kasper [0] (n=Kasper@kasperveen.demon.nl) 15.32.50 # crowded here :) 15.33.15 Join webguest38 [0] (i=c0647cda@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.34.58 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 15.34.59 # can i ask a minor question regarding rockbox? 15.35.25 # of course. 15.35.55 # well, i am quite new to it (just installed rockbox) and there should be some plugins in rockbox 15.36.05 # by default in the folder 'rocks' 15.36.10 # but that folder is empty? 15.36.16 # Try downloading the latest "cvs build" for your player. There are problems with today's and yesterday's "daily builds". 15.36.53 # I'll try, be right back with you 15.36.53 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 15.37.21 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 15.38.35 Join RaeNye [0] (i=c7cb43c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.38.37 # aloha 15.39.19 # I think there might be a bug with new playback/voice code regarding crossfade. 15.39.42 Quit ttl_wrk ("Bye") 15.39.57 # Whenever I enable crossfade the DAP freezes (sim crashes as well, but only after skipping a song)... 15.40.16 # [x5, current cvs, also a few days ago cvs] 15.42.20 Quit Pyromancer ("Ex-Chat") 15.42.41 # pondlife: any idea why that might happen? 15.43.29 Quit petur ("worrrk") 15.45.54 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.47.03 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=pyromanc@dsl092-069-150.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 15.48.15 # linuxstb, btw 74% without frameskip is way good ... because without frameskip it tries to render 50fps ( using frameskip 1 and getting 25 fps is enough i think) ... maybe sometime i won't need cpu boosted all the time ;) 15.50.03 # ok, cvs was too hard for me. Downloaded daily build of 24 sept and that one has plugins :) 15.52.02 # Kasper, just download it from here http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml. It's equally simple as the dailies. 15.52.23 # On the bottom of the page is a similar table to that of the daily builds page 15.53.53 # bleeding edge builds you mean? 15.54.16 # yes 15.54.52 # The cvs builds were formerly know as bleeding edge. 15.54.56 # aah ok, i saw those but the line "They are updated on every source change" scared me 15.55.18 # i thought it might contain bugs 15.55.28 # You were right 15.55.31 # they can 15.56.03 # but don't be scared because of that. If the first line is green for your target, then it's usually ok 15.56.13 # nice :) 15.56.14 # it was ok 15.56.25 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 15.56.34 # i noticed the difference in size for the daily builds though 15.56.45 # theli_ua: Ah, in which case it will never manage more than about 74% anyway - 36.5fps is the maximum the Rockbox lcd driver can handle... See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LcdFrameRate 15.56.50 # Kasper, much difference? 15.57.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=iaudiox5 15.57.21 # including the plugins it is twice as big 15.57.21 # linuxstb, oh ... so that 74% was limited by lcd speed? 15.57.21 # Kasper: yes, all the plugins are missing 15.57.28 # theli_ua: Yes :) 15.57.34 # gosh 15.57.37 # cool 15.57.39 # theli_ua: Which is why we saw no improvement. 15.57.44 # (by the way: how to exit the oscillator plugin?) :) 15.57.53 # Kasper: but they are included in the cvs builds 15.58.05 # didn't know 15.58.19 # i'll install the cvs version right now then :) 15.58.23 # Kasper, power 15.58.39 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-build.html 15.58.45 # thank you tucoz :) 15.58.49 # html manual for the x5 ^^ 15.59.01 # you can find a pdf as well: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 15.59.19 # i have the pdf 15.59.42 # but can't remember i read that you use the power button to exit the plugin 15.59.43 # ok. the content is the same for both 16.00.08 # what is the indicator to know that the frames are totally displayed ? 16.01.06 # any advice which plugin i absolutely should see? :D 16.01.32 # Kasper, mandelbrot? 16.01.34 # hehe 16.01.40 # zxbox! :D 16.01.48 # Sudoku, Pacbox and mpegplayer... 16.02.10 # I'll try :) 16.02.15 # sudoku rocks 16.02.29 # Solitaire and sudoku have saved me many a time. 16.02.38 # Kasper, there are screenshots for all (almost) plugins here: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-940008.1 16.02.39 # that will be a nice plugin when i'm travelling by train :D 16.02.56 # or when i'm at school ;) 16.03.07 # bubbles ofcourse :) 16.03.15 # my favorite linux game (besides x-moto) 16.03.24 # bye 16.03.27 # * RaeNye snaps his finger 16.03.29 Quit RaeNye ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 16.05.44 Quit Ed__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.06.46 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.07.00 # when i try to load doom it says I05: at 31F0723E 16.07.08 # is that a memory error? 16.08.25 # Yes, but you need to install some wads before you run doom 16.08.43 # i did i think :) 16.08.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom 16.08.57 # in rootfolder i created: games/doom 16.09.06 # linuxstb, if there is such boost on Video should i consider implementing dynamic cpu boosting? 16.09.08 # then rockdoom.wad or something 16.09.39 # did you install a game also? 16.09.46 # like freedoom 16.10.08 # or some doom wad you onw 16.10.12 # own 16.10.16 # tucoz, should it say "missing game wad" or something if he didn't? 16.10.20 # i don't think so :) 16.10.26 # i'll try freedoom 16.10.36 # wow, i like the plasma plugin! 16.11.06 # theli_ua, it _should_ but i don't know if it does :) 16.11.22 # it doesn't :) 16.11.32 # theli_ua: It could be worth testing without IRAM - so we don't have to stop music playback on ipods. 16.11.41 # Unless you're using the audio buffer RAM? 16.11.52 # linuxstb, how then i would output sounds? 16.12.20 # linuxstb, i'm using but i can easily change that 16.12.21 # You wouldn't... Unless someone adds a way to mix it with the main audio... 16.12.30 Quit mirak14 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.12.52 # Personally, I would prefer to listen to music than have the noises from the spectrum games... 16.12.53 # hmmm....i get the same error when trying to open pacbox :/ 16.13.05 # linuxstb, i doubt zxbox would run nice simultaneously with playback 16.13.19 Quit webmind (Connection timed out) 16.13.30 # It would do when we can use the second CPU.... 16.13.45 # what's the state of the menu on the rockbox webpage? 16.13.45 # Or it may even work now with an easy codec like FLAC... 16.13.48 # linuxstb, btw what's the status of this? 16.13.58 # of second cpu support 16.14.12 # I never managed to get dan_a's patch working on the PP5020. 16.14.17 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 16.14.20 # bluebrother, I think people are positive towards a change. lack of time is probably the state, don't you think? 16.14.39 # possibly ;-) 16.14.46 # linuxstb, but he is working on it? or anyone else? 16.14.58 # given that bagder just had an increase in family members 16.15.01 # I was just reminded of this as I have the intention to have a support issue on the tracker again :( 16.15.02 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 16.15.11 # theli_ua: dan_a doesn't own a PP5020 device (he has a 3G ipod with PP5002), and I've given up for now... 16.15.19 # :( 16.15.38 # in a week I'll try to come around writing some more detailed introduction on how to report "bugs" 16.15.39 Join webmind [0] (i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl) 16.15.57 # linuxstb, and do ipl people make use of it? 16.15.58 # tucoz, bluebrother: I think we should agree on one of the proposals, and then try and convince Bagder to make the change... (and Paul_The_Nerd to change the forums). 16.16.16 # linuxstb, I think pixelma's looks best 16.16.24 # agreed. On which do we agree? ;-) 16.16.27 # nvm the error, i really should start reading things before trying them :) 16.16.27 # tucoz: I would be happy with that as well. 16.16.38 # I'm ok with that too. 16.16.43 # * Paul_The_Nerd agrees 16.17.20 # theli_ua: Yes, some IPL applications use it. 16.18.14 # here is the link, in case it was forgotten http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/HTML/new_rockbox.html 16.18.15 # theli_ua: The problem is that the "cop_main()" function (which should be the entry point for the COP) is never being called, and I can't work out why. 16.18.52 # bbl 16.19.26 # like the VU meter as well :) 16.19.33 # linuxstb: Do you have an updated bootloader installed? 16.20.05 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.26.40 # amiconn: Yes. I did some tests in the bootloader, and the COP was running there, but it didn't seem to be running (or at least running the code I expected it to be running) in Rockbox itself. 16.27.55 # bluebrother: Regarding the 3g "playback pauses" bug report - the 3g is a lot slower than later ipods, and I don't think there's any circumstances where you can get realtime mp3 playback yet. Hence dan_a's work on the COP. 16.29.15 Join mirak14 [0] (i=5389f0d6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.29.16 # ok. Maybe the FAQ should get extended? 16.29.37 # Yes, there's not much info on the 3g port. But then again, we only have one developer and a handful of users... 16.32.06 # what is the reason we have "daily builds" .. i can't see any ... why just leave only cvs builds? 16.32.39 # Daily Builds are stored as an archive 16.32.58 # They're convenient of a bug shows up in the most recent CVS build, or if a new feature causes major bugs for a week, or something similar 16.33.08 # ah ... i see 16.33.23 # maybe just remove links to them from the main site? 16.33.25 Join tHEkIND[IriverH1 [0] (n=tHEkIND[@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) 16.33.55 # I personally think that there could just be a "Download" page, with links to the CVS builds, the Daily Fonts/Manual, and an Archives link on that page to the dailies. 16.34.12 # hello 16.34.16 Quit mirak14 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.34.18 # Then the BuildTable could be linked off of that page too. 16.34.28 Nick tHEkIND[IriverH1 is now known as tHEkIND (n=tHEkIND[@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) 16.34.29 Quit solarflare (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.34.33 Quit tHEkIND (Client Quit) 16.34.44 Join solarflare [0] (n=supernov@82-203-170-134.dsl.gohome.fi) 16.34.46 Join tHEkIND [0] (n=tHEkIND@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) 16.34.51 # re 16.35.01 # alright, gotta go 16.35.05 # seeya 16.35.05 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.35.20 # I found some bugs on rockbox 16.35.21 # thanks for the help btw :) 16.35.30 # or we just can rename "CVS builds" to "Latests buids" so that "cvs" won't scare people and we won't have such reports as http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6723.0 16.35.48 Part Kasper ("So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!") 16.36.34 # theli_ua: That sort of thing needs to be known about though. Bugs in aspects that people don't use would still be bugs. 16.36.38 # tHEkIND, have you checked bug tracker whether they are already known and if no why didn't you report them there? 16.36.52 # I already get one on the tracker 16.36.58 # This is WPS problems 16.37.08 # tHEkIND, you're sure it is actually a bug? 16.37.16 # Paul_The_Nerd, well ... i can't see any reason why people should prefer daily :) 16.37.25 # He, yes :D, they aren't critical 16.37.55 # I know you have a lot to do, i'm just asking 16.38.05 # if someone could fix quickly that: 16.38.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6056 16.38.07 # we get quite some "bugs" on the tracker that aren't bugs at all these days which decreases the usability of flyspray 16.38.10 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-028-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.39.15 # I'll check 2 other bugs on a official release to be sure and i'll post them, it's not a lot: %fn don't show the first letter 16.39.31 # what does %fn do? 16.39.34 # Filename 16.39.47 # I use it on a wps when changing song 16.39.56 # And when ID3 tags are not preloaded 16.40.01 # really? haven't noticed something like this ... 16.40.19 # Will try on an official release, but i got this problem 16.40.54 # tHEkIND: The preloaded images / text thing has been around and known about for a while. It's not likely to be fixed terribly soon, as it's not necessarily a priority compared to a lot of things 16.41.30 Join philipptr [0] (i=548af933@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.41.46 # yeah that's why i was just asking, i want to create a wps with a lot of effect and this bug restricts me to do it, but i know you have a lot to do 16.41.48 # np 16.42.00 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-142-155.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.42.26 # okay, the filename: It's only when you're fast changing the file 16.42.35 # does someonw know a better channel to ask questions about my broken ipod or should i just continue my thread in the forum (I thought it would be easier over irc) 16.42.58 # tHEkIND: You said you haven't tested that with an official build. 16.43.01 # The 1/2s when the ID3 tags aren't preloaded, if you show %fn 16.43.06 # Yeah i'll do it now 16.43.26 # but the other one with preloaded pictures tested on official :D 16.43.37 # tHEkIND: Yes, as I said, that one is well known. 16.43.49 # well, I will just ask and if nobody answers leave again :D 16.43.54 # The preloaded pictures? 16.44.21 # okay 16.44.26 # A while = months? 16.44.27 # ?? 16.44.28 # ^^ 16.44.35 Nick [dnb] is now known as KlrSpz (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 16.44.52 # philipptr: I don't read the forums very much - what's the problem? 16.45.16 # I get the !folder icon when turning my ipod on, and couldnt read with it from windows (until today it somehow changed and i could save my mp3s) 16.46.01 # tHEkIND: Feel free to work on it yourself if you have the time, but it's really not a major concern to many people. 16.46.06 # OK, I found your forum post. Yes, it looks like you've physically broken it... 16.46.07 # when i try to save the firmware that is on the ipod i get a read error, when writting it seams to work but doesnt change anything 16.46.31 # philipptr: I suggested to you in that thread, I believe, to back up your music and try restoring, but that the iPod is most likely physically broken. 16.46.54 # Paul: I never worked on this language so i'm useless to do that. I contribute creating WPS ^^ 16.47.01 # I just thought i could remove the rockbox usb mode before sending it to apple ;) 16.47.17 # Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode. 16.47.22 # And, restoring would do that. 16.48.17 # well restoring didnt change it, and Im pretty sure that since I installed rockbox i had 2 usb modes (the normal one and one that has smaller icons different loading grafics and different font) 16.48.42 # philipptr: Are you suggesting that I'm lying to you? 16.48.45 # They're both Apple disk modes - the "emergency disk mode" and the "regular one" 16.48.48 # no 16.48.52 # ^^ 16.48.54 # its only what i see 16.48.58 # As linuxstb said, they're both Apple modes. 16.49.02 # ah very good thanks 16.49.12 # i thought it was from rockbox 16.49.18 # it looked so rockbox-ish 16.49.20 # ;) 16.49.25 # We actually say in many places in our documentation that Rockbox has no USB mode on iPod 16.50.06 # If you follow Apple's instructions for forcing your ipod into disk mode (hold SELECT+PLAY whilst booting), you get to the emergency disk mode. That's what Rockbox reboots you into as well. 16.50.11 # so well i think the only thing i can do is sending it in right? (ipod is empty now, but i still get the folder icon) 16.50.12 # I never really thought it looked very Rockboxish, since it's just a black and white clone of the normal disk mode screen. 16.50.42 # where are sources of rockbox ??? 16.50.53 # tHEkIND, see the website. 16.50.59 # ipod by default had a very simple theme with small font and black and white, thats why I associated it with rockbox ;) 16.51.02 # tHEkIND: On the same downloads pages as the software itself. 16.51.08 # okay 16.51.41 # okay found it 16.54.15 # is it c or c++ ? 16.54.24 # c 16.54.31 # ok 16.54.33 # see the docs folder 16.54.51 # thx 16.56.18 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 17.00.33 Quit theli_ua ("Leaving") 17.00.50 Quit webguest38 ("CGI:IRC") 17.01.34 # does someone know what actually causes the firmware to show the folder icon? or are there many things that lead to it? 17.02.11 # You can disable the folder's icon 17.03.11 # the one with the exclamation mark? if so: what happens instead? 17.10.39 Join Trunksi [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 17.18.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.21.56 # jungti is becoming good friends with iriver. They keep giving him players to review: http://jungti1234.netcci.net/blog/index.php?pl=51 17.23.54 # markun: They obviously don't read what he says about them in #rockbox then... 17.29.10 # :) 17.29.29 # linuxstb: I think he calmed down after he received the E10 for free :) 17.30.06 # but he's probably still a pain in the ass for the support helpdesk. Last time they told him to just install rockbox instead of complaining about missing features ;) 17.30.15 # lol 17.31.50 # Did he ask them if that would void his warranty? 17.31.58 # Wellm, if it hadn't been for rockbox I wouldn't have bought their hardware :) 17.32.09 # Me too 17.32.27 # I think that goes for most people here. 17.32.35 # still, I'd prefer the H120 over any iPod 17.32.44 # Now taht iPod support is in :) 17.32.59 # which boosted rockbox alot obviously (userbase-wise) 17.34.31 # do the new iRivers play vorbis? 17.45.32 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 17.45.49 Part Paul_The_Nerd 17.49.51 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 17.50.50 # Kohlrabi: yes http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/clix/clix-2GB.aspx 17.52.14 # ah k 17.52.17 # thx 17.54.13 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 17.55.38 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.57.09 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD33D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.00.27 Join webguest36 [0] (i=c3ec4b1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 18.04.38 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 18.04.54 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 18.11.15 Join soultwister [0] (n=chatzill@host-69-144-198-27.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) 18.11.38 # where do u put your mp3 18.13.33 # anyone here 18.13.38 Part philipptr 18.15.01 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-15-4.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.15.21 # wow its dead in here 18.15.30 # yes 18.15.34 # yes it is 18.15.54 # where do u put your mp3 files 18.16.39 # on rockbox 18.16.52 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 18.17.08 # music\artist\ 18.17.14 # soultwister: you can put your music anywhere 18.17.26 # ah ok thanks 18.17.55 # there's very nice manual available 18.18.02 # you should take a look at it 18.18.24 # ya i went through it could not find what i was looking for 18.18.50 # im duel booting 18.19.10 # its sees my music on other firmware 18.19.48 # what sucks is that i havent found a way to play by gener 18.19.56 # gender 18.20.08 # genre? 18.20.17 # ya thats it 18.20.38 # Try "tagcache" - it's documented in the Rockbox manual. 18.21.00 # ok 18.21.03 # thanks 18.21.17 # there's also a wiki article available 18.22.56 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 18.23.46 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 18.28.26 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.28.51 Join Ed_ [0] (i=ed@palm.hoeg.nl) 18.33.46 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-84-11.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.35.17 Join tHEkIND_ [0] (n=tHEkIND@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) 18.36.18 # .oO(I only want male artists in my playlist) :D 18.37.51 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.37.51 Quit tHEkIND (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.38.18 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-69-210-252-226.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 18.44.10 # I do not like the new scheduler. the music skips less perhaps, but everything else seems less responsive. 18.44.42 # which one? 18.45.32 # the new thread scheduler that was committed a week or two or three ago 18.45.48 Quit lex (Nick collision from services.) 18.45.52 Join lex [0] (i=lex@evot.us) 18.46.05 Quit lex (Nick collision from services.) 18.47.31 Quit soultwister ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 18.48.39 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.48.54 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 18.49.15 # lostlogic: i agree somewhat 18.49.34 # the scheduler itself is nice, but i'm not convinced the priority handling is good 18.50.50 Join lex_ [0] (i=lex@evot.us) 18.51.28 # preglow: ahhh, yeah, I didn't look at the code _at all_ only speaking about how the user experience feels. 18.52.00 # hehe, i wouldn't wonder at all that lostlogic doesn't anything made by me ;) 18.52.09 # +like 18.53.02 # Slasheri: :-P we do seem to have diametrically opposed views on the creation of software 18.53.06 # lostlogic: the scheduler itself minimises unnecessary task switches, but the priority handling really makes using an ipod a nightmare 18.53.12 # but iriver works fine, so unless i got an ipod i can't do much for that 18.53.14 Join soultwister [0] (n=chatzill@host-69-144-198-27.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) 18.53.20 # lostlogic: i see 18.53.48 # Slasheri: well, there's not much you can do but optimise, and that we can all do 18.54.06 # the problem is in the use of priorities in the first place, audio is prioritised over ui, and that's that 18.54.12 # and it has to happen a lot on ipod 18.54.30 # and the use of the wheel makes it really noticable 18.55.01 # im so new at this i need some advice i did the tag cache thing now where do you go to view it by genre 18.55.03 # exactly 18.55.35 # I wanted to eat my fingers when I was trying to navigate to a new song pretty far down a list... but hte music never skipped 18.56.10 # im having trouble navigating to view my mp3 files to choice by genere or artist 18.56.23 Quit damaki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.30 # soultwister: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache#Initialize_Now 18.56.47 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.57.36 Quit solarflare ("Leaving") 18.57.40 # ya i initialized now where do i go to see them 18.57.47 # how can I say make to build all files .c ? 18.58.48 # -> I'm trying to fiw a little bug for me :D (cause nobody want to do it), and i'm wondering how i can compile .c, .h files to use it on the simulator??? 18.59.29 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-15-4.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.59.41 # there is a problem on scale organic and enhanced, it doesn't replace windows at the right place 19.00.47 # sorry, wrong channel 19.01.33 # tHEkIND_, just use the configure script and run make 19.01.43 # i did it 19.01.48 # also, see the SimpleGuideToCompiling wiki page 19.02.01 # soultwister, change the file view to "ID3" 19.02.13 # okay 19.02.18 # bug 19.02.19 # but 19.02.21 # heuu 19.02.26 # I'll see the wiki 19.03.23 # ? 19.03.33 # you guys i aprciate the manual but some of you had to struggle to figure out things cause this is all new to some of us who started and with your knowledge its easier learn from someone whos been there 19.06.01 # ya bluebrother i did that and it worked thanks 19.06.29 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 19.09.21 # soultwister, it's tedious explaining things again and again. Please have a look in the manual and wiki first. 19.09.37 # soultwister: perhaps you can help to improve the manual 19.09.54 # if you don't understand it afterwards come back and ask for clarification -- this also helps us to find sections in the manual that need improvement. 19.10.16 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 19.10.22 # it's a bit tricky writing a manual for something you know already pretty good ;-) 19.12.36 # How long rockbox exists? 19.14.02 Join tHEkIND [0] (n=tHEkIND@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) 19.14.02 Part tHEkIND 19.14.10 Join tHEkIND [0] (n=tHEkIND@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) 19.14.15 Quit tHEkIND_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.14.24 # I've seen 2 pages on a magazine of "How to installe rockbox on your ipod" (french) 19.15.08 # Rockbox has been in development since 2001 (says the manual) 19.15.20 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 19.15.25 # And the site's design never changed ? :P 19.15.31 # don't know. 19.15.41 # 2001 you made great job on only 5 years ^^ 19.18.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.19.01 Join MHen [0] (n=user@p54A36629.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.19.26 Quit tHEkIND (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.30.19 Join Mordov|hardlywo [0] (n=mordov@203.84-48-88.nextgentel.com) 19.30.23 Quit Mordov|hardlywo (Remote closed the connection) 19.30.37 # What happens with submitted patches? Do they have to stay a minimum time open for comments? Or do I have (after there was a positive feedback for my patch) to ask somewhere for it to be committed (e.g. here)? 19.32.41 # MHen, they stay around until some dev looks at it. 19.34.09 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.34.12 # how do you use patches 19.34.24 # soultwister, what do you mean by "use"? 19.34.38 # patches are changes to the Rockbox source code - so you apply a patch to a copy of the source code and then compile. 19.34.45 # patches are differences to source files. You apply them to the source and recompile 19.34.48 # well they are for you rockbox right 19.35.10 # ah so i have to have linux to use them 19.35.33 # no. You can compile rockbox using cygwin if you want to. 19.36.08 # bluebrother: And it depends on the mood of the devs if and when they look at one? 19.36.33 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 19.36.52 # MHen, it depends on a couple of things. Like if the patch is considered useful and suits into rockbox. 19.36.56 # where can i get more plugins 19.39.02 # linuxstb: $(SRC:%.c=$(OBJDIR)/%.o) you do that do compile a full directory, what does it do exactly ? 19.39.24 # soultwister, there might be some that you can compile in the tracker 19.39.32 # hmm, im having some real troubles with various aac files on a cvs build from this morning 19.39.49 # bb: I had a "I think we could commit it right away." comment on my patch two days ago and wondered what was happening to it. Then I saw patches that are more than three years old, with the author adapting it a year or so to the current CVS status and then simply giving up. 19.43.07 Quit Trunksi (Nick collision from services.) 19.43.13 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 19.43.15 Nick Reverie is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 19.44.20 # that sometimes happens. At least it is useful keeping contact to the devs on irc 19.45.56 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-45-233-171.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 19.47.20 # Is there a day or time when it's most likely some devs (that have a spare minute or two) are around? 19.48.51 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.06 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-136-12.perm.iinet.net.au) 19.53.07 # no, but most devs are located in europe afaik 19.54.15 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 19.59.41 # can u play videos 19.59.50 # mp4 20.00.18 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 20.00.54 # bb: thanks 20.01.02 # 5g 60 gig 20.03.24 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-109-148.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.05.13 # Rockbox only supports mpeg1&2 experimentally, if you want to play mp4 videoes you have to boot the apple firmware 20.05.18 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.06.47 # how about fm radio do you getr that 20.10.12 # Hmm, I think we might need to rethink our "throw away wheel events if the application isn't listening for them right now" policy on the ipod 20.10.23 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.10.31 # that might help the UI feel with the current scheduler and priorities 20.11.24 # hmm, i "knew" something must be wrong with the wheel driver / ui 20.11.28 # didn't earhertz have a scrolling patch that helped? 20.13.19 # does anyone know how to compile all object files from a source folder without writting each file ? 20.13.30 # in the make 20.14.31 # Slasheri: it's not wrong, it's just different 20.14.35 Quit Trunksi (Nick collision from services.) 20.14.39 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.14.42 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 20.14.44 Nick Reverie is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 20.14.48 # before, the ui used to queue up a zillion wheel events if something was being done while you tried to use the wheel 20.15.01 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.15.10 # that's why i killed other queued wheel events if a new one arrived 20.15.49 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.16.28 Join hc1 [0] (n=agashlin@nat01-silvers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 20.17.00 Quit hcs (Nick collision from services.) 20.17.07 Nick hc1 is now known as hcs (n=agashlin@nat01-silvers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 20.18.14 # yeah, it's much better this way than the way it was 20.18.24 # but... seems like it could be even better. 20.19.25 Join chris_ [0] (n=chris@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.20.03 Nick chris_ is now known as senab (n=chris@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.20.15 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.21.57 # it might feel intuitive to the user if we allow queueing of wheel events even when the UI is not listening if the user releases and resumes touching the wheel. 20.22.12 Join Daishiman [0] (i=c81ba045@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.22.14 # hmm.. maybe the driver could queue events and when user stops moving the wheel, queue would be cleared 20.23.02 # I can't remember if we have a 'wheel released' event 20.24.24 # Is there are reason why the fading in/out is done in gui/gwps-common and not inside the mpeg thread? 20.27.35 # hrm? 20.27.43 # which fade? 20.27.45 # The fade-on-stop. 20.27.51 # ooh, the volume one 20.27.58 Join deoa [0] (n=bip@p50886B28.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.01 # beats me. 20.28.02 # I noticed that the other day and thought it was an odd place for it... 20.28.03 # hi 20.28.14 Nick deoa is now known as bipak (n=bip@p50886B28.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.32 Quit soultwister ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 20.28.52 # i get an error while compiling cvs for the ihp120 :( 20.29.09 # in tns.c ? 20.29.14 # right 20.29.28 # Upgrade your gcc to at least 3.4.5 (preferably 3.4.6) 20.29.41 # (m68k-elf-gcc) 20.29.52 # ah ok :) 20.30.00 # 3.4.4 is on my system 20.30.15 # thanks 20.30.31 # SLIBAVUTIL= $(wildcard libavutil/*.c) I do that to get the .c file list in libavutil, seems it doesn't work in the make 20.31.02 # i'm a bit of a noob on linux, i'm just installing the cross compiler, at the bottom it says i've got to include something in my PATH 20.31.06 # how do i do this? 20.31.39 # export PATH=$PATH:/local/mk68/bin 20.31.46 Quit Daishiman ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.31.50 # and you put that in .bashrc 20.31.56 # or .bash_profile 20.32.05 # either? 20.32.23 # the adress should be something like /usr/local/m68k-elf/bin 20.32.30 # depends the compiler 20.33.19 # in .bashrc export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin 20.33.46 # thanks 20.34.05 # anywhere in the file? 20.34.41 # put it at the end 20.35.16 Quit bluey- (Remote closed the connection) 20.36.21 # works perfectly, thanks 20.36.52 # seems to be compiling much quicker on linux than cygwin 20.37.08 # cygwin is slooooow =) 20.38.10 # i can tell now 20.38.30 # i suppose it's because its having to emulate the posix commands 20.38.32 # which is why i gave up on it and use vmware for my windows box 20.38.43 Quit Pyromancer ("Ex-Chat") 20.38.44 # i'm dual booting 20.39.10 # i'm starting a computer science degree at uni so it makes sense to get used to linux 20.39.10 Join daishiman [0] (i=c81ba045@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.39.28 # i usually dont want to boot into linux on my main box though (though it is a dual boot system)....if i am in linux, i go to one of my other comps =) 20.39.37 # senab: install ccache, it gets even faster then for rebuilds 20.40.16 # thanks obo 20.40.53 # is it reliable in detecting changes? 20.40.53 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 20.41.09 # most, if not all the build servers use it... 20.41.37 # ahhh, i was wondering how my compile builds in 30seconds 20.41.49 # *how they compile.... 20.43.43 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54876C3C.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.48.31 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=chris@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de) 20.48.40 Quit SereR0kR (Remote closed the connection) 20.48.52 Join webguest96 [0] (i=c66e4bb3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.49.15 Quit webguest96 (Client Quit) 20.49.50 # Hi all 20.50.27 # I need a player recommendation. Does anyone have experience with iPods and iAudio X5Ls? 20.52.10 # yep, i've got an ipod 20.52.51 # what do you want to know? 20.52.56 # I want to know how the Rockbox firmware stacks up against the default iPod firmware 20.53.12 # the area in which it lacks, is battery life 20.53.12 # the bad thing with rockbox is the battery life 20.53.14 # on features and usability 20.53.17 # winner! 20.53.26 # how bad is bad? 20.53.28 # They are about as different as two firmwares can be... 20.54.02 # but the audiences of the firmwares are different 20.54.11 # are we talking under 5 hours? 20.54.22 # i know that they're extremely different 20.54.28 # no, for my 5g 30gb i get about 8hours 20.54.53 # that'd qualify as good enough for me 20.55.12 # how does it go on the aesthetics side? 20.55.13 # which will only improve as times goes on and optimizations are made 20.55.20 # considering good theming, of course 20.55.26 # scorche, senab: The cygwin slowness ist most likely caused by the windows filesystem layer. Microsoft SFU suffers from the same problem (although it's _a bit_ faster than cygwin) 20.55.28 # test : 20.55.28 # @echo $(wildcard ./libavcodec/*) 20.55.40 # this line doesn't list the .c files, I do'nt know what to do 20.55.47 # in a make file 20.55.57 # daishman: as in the physical looks? or the software? 20.56.06 # The presence of an on-access virus scanner doesn't make it better... 20.56.19 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.56.26 # senab: i mean how the GUI handles, how the menus look 20.56.27 # amiconn: i don't use an antivirus 20.56.43 # in the original firmware or rockbox? 20.57.01 # rockbox 20.57.02 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 20.57.09 # let me explain my original dilemma 20.57.35 # all rockbox displays are the same GUI, except some have bigger screens and display more colours 20.57.45 # i was previously looking at an iAudio X5L for the features and capabilities, especially the ability to record, the FM, and the support for Ogg and FLAC 20.57.58 # radio and recording i can live without 20.58.24 # however after the last iPod update, the 30 gig model was looking juicy, especially considering video playback and screen size 20.58.33 # however i'll be damned if i have to use iTunes 20.58.39 # i'm a linux user 20.58.43 # gtkpod 20.58.55 # that doesn't support videoes does it? 20.58.58 # and even so, iTunes looks bloated and ugly 20.59.04 # the point was 20.59.06 # er, no videos, right 20.59.14 # i was then looking at the rockbox features 20.59.25 # including gapless and format support 20.59.53 # the latest original ipod firmware supports gapless playback aswell 21.00.43 # Probably not with gtkpod though - IIUC, it using data in the itunesdb for gapless. 21.00.56 # Bagder: around? 21.01.42 # the video capabilites on the original firmware are pretty decent now 21.02.08 # it now supports 640x480 MPEG-4 SP, which looks good when connected to the tv 21.04.19 # senab: it supports a video with 2Mbps bitrate and more :p 21.04.25 Quit daishiman ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.04.26 # so it's at least a dvd-quality 21.04.42 # sort of... 21.04.50 # Not quite - DVD is 720x576... 21.05.00 # but it can play it too i guess 21.05.22 # the RCA tv out adaptor on the ipod only has 240 lines, so it's still a bit crap 21.05.35 Join daishiman [0] (i=c81ba045@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.05.43 # I wouldn't use an iPod to watch videos on a TV anyway. 21.05.46 # sorry, got dced 21.06.09 Part Paul_The_Nerd 21.06.34 # so, what would you gain and lose from going to rockbox? 21.07.20 # on the ipod you'd lose proper video support. battery life 21.07.46 # but these will improve 21.08.04 # i know, I've seen the changelogs. my god do things speed up. 21.08.21 # you'd also lose the tv-out feature and accessory connections 21.08.53 # i wouldn't be using them anyway 21.09.07 # but for audio playback, then rockbox is king 21.09.16 # what would I lose on interface aesthetics? 21.09.21 Join LennyK [0] (i=18cdff08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.09.43 # the other thing I wanted to know was what was up with the dynamic playlist feature 21.09.45 # errr, the menu system is the most aesthetic looking 21.10.03 # *is not.... 21.10.12 # even themed? 21.10.31 # you can set the background and the font for the menu system 21.10.51 # but the WPS (playing screen) you can theme it much more 21.11.21 # have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g 21.11.25 # for some examples 21.11.42 Join chris_ [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de) 21.11.59 Part chris_ 21.12.04 # Hey everyone... I can't seem to get A-B repeat to work and I've done it before. H140, trying play + right/left. Any ideas? 21.13.30 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de) 21.13.36 Quit SereR0kR (Remote closed the connection) 21.13.41 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de) 21.13.56 # looks pretty nice 21.14.09 # wish there were some menu screenshots though 21.14.15 # LennyK, you need to set repeat mode to a-b first. Have you done that? 21.14.25 # for the record, i don't really care much for aesthetics. i¿m just curious 21.14.55 # bluebrother, I sure have! 21.14.56 # daishiman: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/blackGlass_screenshot_backdrop.png 21.15.12 Join Variable [0] (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 21.15.14 # thats the menu system, you can change the font, and the background 21.15.33 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 21.15.56 Part SereR0kR 21.15.57 # LennyK, works for me. Current cvs build. 21.17.16 # looks decent 21.17.43 # no issues there. 21.17.55 # daishiman, there is a wiki page with some screenshots 21.18.06 # linuxstb_: next problem... gcc 3.4.6 does not compile :( 21.18.16 # configure: error: No support for this host/target combination. 21.18.16 # make: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 21.18.22 # I'm wondering whether i should buy the 30 gig iPod or the iAudio X5L. they're at the same price 21.18.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenShots 21.18.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.20.08 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de) 21.23.43 # bipak: What options did you pass to configure? 21.24.51 # It should be something like ../gcc-3.4.6/configure --target=m68k-elf --enable-languages=c --prefix=/usr/local/m68k-elf 21.25.00 # --target=m68k-elf and --prefix=/usr/local, but i found that --enable-languages=c should do the thing 21.25.02 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust438.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.25.05 # (use the same prefix as your existing install) 21.25.12 # ah ok :) 21.25.48 # So does that mean you can't compile g++ for m68k? 21.26.42 # it worked now with "--enable-languages=c" :) 21.27.00 # g++ was build now 21.28.27 # bluebrother - I think I got it. When you put in a point, do you press play then quickly press left/right, or do you hold play when you're getting to the spot and then 5 secs later press left/right? 21.28.41 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 21.29.14 Join Moos [0] (i=51400b8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.30.43 # rockbox built as well linuxstb_ :] thanks for helping 21.31.03 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 21.31.36 Quit senab (Remote closed the connection) 21.31.38 Quit XavierGr () 21.33.28 # yeah, its possible to record direct in mp3 now. i love rockbox :) 21.34.49 Nick Variable is now known as Rudy4Pez (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 21.35.26 # what does "precrecord time" mean? 21.35.42 Quit Trunksi (Nick collision from services.) 21.35.48 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 21.35.50 Nick Reverie is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 21.36.41 # well anyway in terms of a-b repeat is seems that you cannot hardly any amount of time between when you press play and when you press left/right of the sync point doesn't register 21.37.22 # *cannot have hardly* 21.37.31 # LennyK, I usually hold play, then left / right 21.37.47 # but not as holding for several seconds 21.37.59 # I can't get the start point to sync unless it's almost simultaneous 21.38.35 # sorry, no ideas anymore. 21.38.51 # thanks for helping. is there a way to clear the in/out points? 21.38.57 # as I said, it works for me. But usually I don't use a-b. 21.39.20 # none I know of (except switching to a different repeat mode) 21.40.17 # yeah I ususally stop and restart the file. i found something in the mail archive that said the original patch had play+stop to clear the points but I couldn't get it to work 21.41.01 # ok well that's enough to get me going. thanks 21.41.23 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD33D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.47.19 Quit Trunksi (Nick collision from services.) 21.47.22 Join Reverie [0] (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 21.47.24 Nick Reverie is now known as Trunksi (n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net) 21.52.26 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 21.55.01 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 21.55.41 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 22.01.04 # lol rockbox has a pitch function now... you guys are crazy. some weeks ago i dreamed of a feature like that for DJing :) 22.01.25 # we've had that feature for years 22.01.52 # but not on ihp, right? 22.02.18 # we've had it on ihp for a very good while 22.02.26 # a year or so 22.02.28 # oh.. lol 22.02.52 # I can remember discovering that feature on h120 about a year ago ... so it's quite a while 22.03.07 # ok then im blind 22.03.07 # :) 22.03.14 # it's probably longer than a year 22.03.21 # i can't remember when i implemented it anymore 22.03.30 # hehe :) 22.04.10 # but the documentation became better the last year, so it isn't as hard to find as those times ;-) 22.04.28 # but the record to mp3 feature was not implemented a long time ago, or didn't i see the feature too? 22.04.38 # that's pretty new. 22.04.43 # ok :> 22.04.47 Join zoglesby [0] (n=zoglesby@c-71-200-46-168.hsd1.de.comcast.net) 22.05.09 # couple of weeks, but there was a patch flying around on FS for quite some time. 22.05.37 # is there a documentation for rockbox->ihp, or only a doc for the whole rockbox firmware? 22.05.59 # the manual is build for each target separately but from the same sources. 22.06.07 # oh :D 22.06.10 # nice 22.06.11 # so there is a manual specific to the h100 series 22.06.52 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A47F89.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.06.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml in case you haven't found it already 22.07.04 # in shocking news, I still think that having the track change GUI update on the wrong thread makes it look worse, not better. 22.07.15 # but this may be another case of the ipod looking different than the HXXX 22.07.17 # rockbox makes the ihp alot more precious :) 22.07.42 # thanks bluebrother 22.08.41 Join webguest25 [0] (i=44e92636@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.08.45 # too bad the h100 and h300 series get more and more difficult to get hands on. 22.09.26 # last week i recorded a dj-set of me with the original firmware. and after i checked what it has recorded i saw that it recorded only 100mb :\... commercial shit 22.09.32 # With the new Rockboy keymappings, does that mean that it finally works on Ondio? 22.10.30 Quit webguest25 (Client Quit) 22.10.45 # OF is strange ... whenever I boot into the iriver fw it shows ~40MB free space while I have ~1.5GB 22.11.00 # lol :) 22.11.38 # once Rockbox wouldn't boot after that anymore because I made a short recording ... seems like it trashed my filesystem :( 22.11.50 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-4-188.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.12.10 Quit freqmod (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.12.16 # oh :( 22.12.27 # Can someone close FS#4865 please? 22.12.38 # coding Rockbox is way more fun than using the OF :D 22.12.49 # ive installed a new battery to my ihp yesterday. now it has 2,2Ah :D 22.13.12 # hehe 22.13.15 # obo, done. 22.13.23 # thanks bluebrother 22.13.36 # bipak, I did this some time ago, but now the performance is equal to the original one :( 22.13.50 # cheap ebay crap :( 22.14.14 # hmm yes my one is also from ebay.. 22.14.20 # the one for ipods 22.14.33 # we'll see how long it works 22.14.37 # hopefully it wont explode 22.14.38 # :)) 22.14.42 # hehe 22.15.04 Quit daishiman ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.15.08 # that exploding batteries got quite a few people nervous. 22.16.19 # Is #4899 in CVS yet? 22.16.23 # oh yes... alan cox thinkpad exploded last week or so... 22.16.47 # Rudy4Pez: yes 22.17.05 # Is it only for Nano? 22.17.18 # nope - for all ipods 22.17.24 # Sweet. Thanks. 22.18.09 # is there a page for more rockbox themes? 22.19.00 # http://www.rockbox-themes.org and the wiki wps pages 22.19.13 # :D 22.19.41 # on the ltp mailing list some guy got quite nervous by the news of alan cox thinkpad :o 22.21.03 # ltp? linux thinkpad? *g* 22.21.08 # yeah 22.21.11 # ah :) 22.21.25 # I've linux running on a thinkpad ;-) Works like a charm 22.21.30 # booooooom 22.21.31 # ;) 22.21.38 # nooo! 22.21.39 # hehe 22.21.44 Join beto [0] (i=d1ea8843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.22.02 Quit beto (Client Quit) 22.23.13 # you should take a backup ;) 22.23.50 # by bying a backup thinkpad? 22.23.59 # lol :) 22.24.24 # as Thinkpads aren't Thinkpads anymore this is indeed an option. If only they were cheaper. 22.24.33 # hey bluebrother I figured out how to clear a-b points. hit play+navi (quickly). also check out this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6078 22.26.40 Quit Mmmm () 22.26.56 # uuuh i want a color display.. that themes are alot more interessting *g* 22.27.38 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.28.12 # LennyK, thanks for noting. Clearing the a-b points isn't documented at all ... 22.29.45 # ok, im going to bed now.. cu later 22.29.53 # bye 22.33.10 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 22.36.25 Quit LennyK ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.37.34 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.43.55 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 22.52.59 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.58.37 Quit rretzbach (Connection reset by peer) 23.00.57 Join tucoz_ [0] (n=martin@233.84-48-89.nextgentel.com) 23.01.04 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.07.29 Nick tucoz_ is now known as tucoz (n=martin@233.84-48-89.nextgentel.com) 23.15.35 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.56 Quit bluebrother ("back another day") 23.18.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.19.15 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 23.21.02 Join petur [0] (n=petur@d54C0B3B0.access.telenet.be) 23.25.23 # * ender` yawns 23.28.20 # Hrm. The recent commit that fixes the x5 remote hold switch and play button issue...does this affect the bootloader as well? 23.28.42 # Because (as expected) it still boots even when the hold switch on the remote is down. But I'm using the dual boot with the OF. 23.29.02 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.29.48 Join soultwister [0] (n=chatzill@host-69-144-198-27.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) 23.30.11 # is it possible for fm raDIO 23.31.23 # is what possible for FM radio? 23.34.08 # rockbox 23.34.21 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 23.34.27 # is rockbox possible "for FM radio"? it doesn't make any sense. 23.34.38 # fm radio for rockbox 23.34.41 # soultwister, you might wanna tell us what your target is? 23.34.42 # soultwister: listen to radio? 23.34.45 # it has an FM Radio feature if your player supports radio.. 23.35.03 # bummer mine dosent 23.35.04 # s/target/player 23.35.11 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.35.12 # ipod? 23.35.27 # soultwister: well, we can't just magically make your player tune into some radio stations :) 23.35.40 # speak for yourself 23.36.08 # what, me? 23.36.10 # i know it would be cool if u could 23.36.41 # yes you midkay. 23.36.46 # and how they took out rockboy out 23.36.51 # Soap: what's that supposed to mean? 23.37.00 # It means I'm magic. 23.37.07 # why did they take out rockboy 23.37.12 # soultwister, if the tuner hardware is missing, then it's impossible without some sorts of external tuner 23.37.15 # nobody took out rockboy, why do you ask? 23.37.32 # well its not on my build 23.37.40 # But seriously, soultwister, a FM receiver is a hardware device which can't be emmulated in software. You need a physical receiver, antenna, tuner, etc. 23.37.47 # soultwister, did you download a daily build? 23.37.48 # soultwister: the daily builds are a bit broken 23.37.57 # use the cvs build 23.38.12 # yes 23.38.22 # then do what markun says 23.38.22 # daily build 23.38.38 # dont you have to compile cvs 23.39.07 # no, go to the cvs page, and browse down to where it says "bleeding edge builds" 23.39.13 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 23.39.27 # ok 23.40.12 # then what do i do with it 23.40.49 # the same as you do with the daily 23.41.21 # ok 23.41.31 Quit Landus (Nick collision from services.) 23.41.35 # it's the same contents. The daily gets built once a day, and the cvs builds at every commit to cvs 23.41.52 # that is why we call it bleeding edge :) 23.41.53 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 23.43.09 # different name then all the other files rockboy.c 23.44.36 # i don't understand, but something is wrong when the daily zip files are made. the plugins are not included for some reason 23.44.53 # they are however included in the cvs builds 23.47.09 # so, if you really wanted you could download a CVS which coincides with the build picked to be the daily, and...well, I guess you gain nothing. 23.48.08 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-240-51.nyc.res.rr.com) 23.49.12 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 23.49.17 # thoes buids dont support my ipod 23.49.36 # those 23.49.46 # builds 23.49.52 Quit fiftyfour123 (Client Quit) 23.50.38 # hmm, with a black background I can't read the splash screens, the text of which seems to be always black 23.51.43 # soultwister, what ipod do you have? 23.51.48 # bummer 23.52.16 # all the supported ipods are to be found there 23.52.45 # soultwister: so, which one do you have? 23.53.07 # 5g ipod 60 gig 23.53.10 # video 23.53.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip 23.53.39 # its on daily builds but not cvs builds 23.53.43 # it is 23.53.57 # it's right in front of me on the cvs page 23.54.03 # called ipodvideo 23.54.10 # thanks 23.54.11 Join webguest40 [0] (i=183ea599@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 23.55.43 # dude rockboy isnt in that zip u gave me 23.56.02 # it is 23.56.16 # but you wont find it if you select "browse plugins" 23.56.41 # ok i looked in rocks directory no rockboy 23.56.51 # hmm 23.57.03 # isn't it a viewer? 23.57.06 # where do i find it then 23.57.27 # no its a emulator for gameboy 23.57.41 # it's in .rockbox/viewers 23.57.50 # hmm 23.57.56 # ahah I felt like I was trolling on ffmpeg channel when I asked them why libavcodec is not even sorted at least in audio and video codecs 23.58.11 # your right 23.58.22 # soultwister: just click on a .gb rom file 23.58.27 Join a [0] (i=183ea599@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 23.58.33 Quit a (Client Quit) 23.58.33 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.58.50 # ok ill try 23.58.54 # mirak: what did they reply?