--- Log for 28.09.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 26 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.32 Join webguest03 [0] (i=183ea599@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9e9e5406267f1f7f) 00.00.33 # yes, but I don't see how sorting libavcodec wich contains around 200 files can do some bad 00.00.35 # imagine ripping out something from rockbox for use elsewhere. all the #ifdefs etc 00.00.39 Quit Landus (Connection timed out) 00.01.27 # tucoz: that's a bit different 00.01.53 # it is 00.01.56 # in rockbox there is a hierarchy. inside libavocec folder it's anarcy 00.02.02 # haha 00.02.03 # ok 00.02.25 # * petur hums the sex pistols tune 00.02.26 # anyway it's different just by the fact the codecs are sorted in folders 00.02.42 # mirak: did you tell them you could do it for them and send them a patch? 00.03.08 # markun: actually I wich I could ... 00.04.16 # wonder if rockbox could apply for SoC next year 00.04.18 # thanks guys got it to work 00.04.41 # but doesnt fill the whole screen its small 00.04.49 # markun: anyway it was on the irc channel. maybe on the mailing list the question would have better answers. 00.05.10 # good night 00.05.12 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 00.05.18 # soultwister: do you know how to program in C? 00.05.30 # sorry i dont 00.05.33 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.05.38 # markun: do you think you could ask them ? :) 00.06.29 # mirak: maybe some other time 00.06.40 Quit soultwister ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 00.07.39 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 00.07.43 # argh, anyone have an 80Gb windows partion map 00.07.52 # lol 00.08.00 Join webguest03 [0] (i=183ea599@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.08.19 # darkskiez_: with same partitionning ? 00.08.41 # it arrived today...NEEED rockbox! 00.08.57 # only have an maccle apintosh and a linux box tho 00.09.00 Quit MHen ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 00.09.22 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 00.09.22 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 00.09.29 # darkskiez_: 80gb 1.8" drive?? 00.09.46 # darkskiez_: Rockbox doesn't work on the 80gb 5g. 00.09.57 # well, 76Gb after bit tax 00.10.02 # NOOOooooooooooooooooo 00.10.10 # * darkskiez_ posts it back to apple 00.10.23 # linuxstb_: 'not yet' I guess? 00.10.52 # Yes, not yet. It doesn't seem to be significantly different to the earlier 5gs. 00.10.54 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 00.12.04 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 00.12.17 # The first problem to fix (and hopefully the only one) is that the new ipods use a 2048 byte logical sector size. ipod_fw.c needs adapting, as well as Rockbox's FAT driver. 00.13.32 # is there any plan to add an HFS driver ? 00.13.59 # No. Lots of people have requested it, but no-one has volunteered to work on it. 00.14.07 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.14.20 # The general view is that FAT32 is good enough - and works everywhere. 00.14.58 Quit Landus (Nick collision from services.) 00.15.05 # * darkskiez_ is without a net connection and things to do next week.. 00.15.20 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 00.15.48 Quit damaki_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.17.30 Join engbox [0] (i=183ea599@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.18.00 Quit pixelma (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.01 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 00.18.06 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 00.18.14 # pixelma: ping... 00.18.19 # hey im new to rockbox (1 week) and want to develop a plugin - got the cygwin environment set up. How to compile a plugin -> ***.rock?? 00.19.20 # anyone? 00.19.34 # Put the .c file in apps/plugins/, add the filename to apps/plugins/SOURCES and then build Rockbox. 00.19.55 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-45-255-226.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 00.21.29 # thanks linuxstb - will try 00.23.16 Quit Landus (Nick collision from services.) 00.23.38 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 00.23.59 Quit Landus (Nick collision from services.) 00.24.21 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 00.28.57 Quit obo ("bye") 00.29.42 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 00.32.02 Quit ender` (" Massive consumption of mind-altering drugs would be less likely to cause brain damage. 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Use iTunes to restore." one more time.......... 03.47.19 # anyone have a rb modded boot bin for a g5 pod they can DCC me? 03.49.18 # I want to see if I insert A00 extra bytes between the stop msg and the !ATAsoso if it will try to boot. 03.49.40 Join Joely [0] (n=joel@adsl-68-72-82-233.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 03.49.41 # for the 5.5g port 03.51.10 Join lamed [0] (i=d49656d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 03.52.55 # hey guys, i'm out of players for now, can't seem to get my hands on a cheap h320-h340, so I'm thinking about an ipod :/ , I can get those pretty cheaply. anyone has any info about whether RB will support line in / mic recording on ipods? 03.58.43 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-36-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 04.00.47 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.20.16 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 04.23.04 Join stanelie [0] (n=pasde@dsl-155-194.aei.ca) 04.23.33 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 04.24.34 Part nave7693 04.41.00 Join webguest13 [0] (i=c27d128b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 04.41.22 # Dave, you awake? 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08.40.28 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7e3f71767be8c895) 08.40.54 # Yo linuxstb, you have an iPod, right? 08.41.07 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 08.41.46 # Possibly... 08.42.36 # lol 08.42.58 # Do you know if the scrollwheel accel. patch is still incompatible with CVS? 08.43.25 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.43.25 # I haven't looked at it. Do you use it? 08.44.54 # The patch or CVS builds? 08.45.02 # The patch. 08.45.24 # Yeah, until recently it's been in the senab builds, but currently, no I don't. 08.46.00 # But I use one gigantic playlist of a ton of my music, so I'm thinking of reverting back to a build when the patch worked, because it made my life a LOT easier... Hehe. 08.46.33 # The author of the patch has disappeared, so someone needs to update the patch... 08.46.43 # Ah, lamesauce. 08.47.18 # But did it work well (when it worked)? 08.48.08 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-2-248-188.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 08.49.49 # It was a bit jumpy, but totally worth it when one needs to get from the beginning to the middle of a playlist containing 1500 songs. 08.52.32 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.54.41 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 08.55.02 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.55.03 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 08.55.14 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-64-200-138.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.55.39 Join Joely_ [0] (n=joel@adsl-70-131-132-200.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 09.00.00 Quit Joely (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.02.25 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 09.02.31 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.02.41 Join MrShlee [0] (i=BIGKING@58-84-67-197.dial-lns2.sa.chariot.net.au) 09.04.37 # Hey, running the H3xx builds. trying to play a unknown codec file... will obviously not play 09.04.49 # but it seems to stop valid files from playing after that.. 09.04.56 # like get stuck changing codec 09.04.59 # aware of this issue? 09.07.47 # What do you mean by "a unknown codec file" ? 09.08.13 # I'll find out what the exact file is. 09.08.36 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.09.14 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.37 # wb.. 09.10.33 # load rocbox.. plays mp3 perfectly/play the black keys.wma (obviously not supported)/no audio.. no ID3 info 09.10.36 # as expected.. 09.10.57 # but after attempting to play the wma, Im unable to play any standard mp3/oggs 09.11.00 # until reboot 09.11.12 # Ah, OK. 09.13.04 # Is this an expected issue.. or just don't play wma files :) 09.13.20 # wma is a special case - it's included in the list of valid audio types so people can use Rockbox to create playlists for use with the iriver firmware. 09.13.46 # Still a bug though 09.13.55 # Yes. 09.14.03 # I can look into it if someone can provide me a .wma file 09.14.21 # I don't think you need a wma file - just rename any file to have a .wma extension. 09.14.25 # OK 09.14.55 # Quick question for a newbie: any way to get Ipod style song/artist/album/year layout? 09.15.07 # I like the general filesystem nav most the time. 09.15.10 # One word - tagcache 09.15.22 # Thanks 09.15.27 # * MrShlee reads manual 09.15.37 # There's also a wiki page about it. 09.16.00 # * pondlife makes the daily call.... 09.16.04 # lostlogic: around? 09.16.22 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp90.contactor.se) 09.16.25 # Wrong time of day I think - it's about 2am for him I think. 09.16.36 # Ah, that'll be why I always fail. 09.16.50 # I wish people would close their IRC clients when not around... 09.17.27 # Or just type /away 09.17.35 # Yep 09.17.51 # it is nice to know when people talk about you when you are away though =) 09.18.00 # Ha ha, maybe.... 09.18.05 # The logs are for that... 09.18.07 # Depends on the adjectives 09.18.22 # or expletives ;) 09.18.34 # Those are adjectives 09.19.04 # Well, in the way I would use them 09.19.06 # can be nouns or verbs too 09.19.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.19.35 # * scorche boggles at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3225.msg52290#msg52290 09.19.40 # Yes, but normally suffixed with -ing in this case, and used to qualify a (proper) noun 09.19.58 # as in that f...-ing pondlife has committed another playback mod 09.24.04 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-0-0-cust438.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 09.26.59 # Does anyone know anything about this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5332 ? 09.27.23 # There have been several claims that iPods (mainly 4G) don't boot properly now, but used to. 09.28.01 # I see it's marked as due in 3.1, but is that just because iPod isn't yet supported officially, or because someone (petur?) knows what the problem is? 09.28.42 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 09.28.55 # Back around the time of the 3.0 feature freeze, all ipod-specific bugs were marked as being due in 3.1 - the first official release for ipods. 09.29.54 # But I'm sure that problem has disappeared by now. The big issue with all PP5020 ipods (mini 1st gen, 4g greyscale and Color/Photo) is apparently random freezes and data aborts. 09.30.41 # I mean it definitely freezes and gives data aborts, but apparently randomly. At least, I haven't worked out what's causing it. 09.31.38 # Just wondered if this report should be closed. The Critical status annoys me ;-) 09.31.51 # pondlife, Need a "real" wma file? 09.31.58 # Nope, I don't think so. 09.32.02 # pondlife: Yes, I would close it as out of date. 09.32.29 # Won't be looking for a while, am busy trying to work out why my settings get lost every time I start up the sim. 09.34.06 # Is there a windows side playlist/tagcache editor? or just use standard winamp pls 09.34.39 # Use Rockbox? The sim for your device works under Windows... 09.35.02 # ice? 09.35.15 # You can use any app with creates standard .m3u playlists. 09.35.24 # I'm just getting my head around it.. excellento 09.35.24 # thanks 09.35.57 # Even a text editor will work - .m3u files are simply a text file containing a list of filenames. 09.40.16 # linuxstb_: what do you think about generating m3u8 files in rockbox and using the default codepage for m3u files? 09.42.52 # You mean that all playlists would be saved as .m3u8 instead of .m3u? 09.42.59 # yes 09.43.53 # because other programs don't expect m3u files to be UTF-8 encoded and we nog support the m3u8 extension for UTF-8 encoded playlists anyway. 09.44.20 # Of course people will need to rename their existing playlists 09.44.51 # * MrShlee starts double checking all the ID3 tags on his collection 09.45.11 # I rarely save my own playlists, and have purely ASCII filenames, so I'm probably not the best person to ask.. 09.45.45 # Are .m3u8 playlists widely supported? 09.48.13 # Winamp 5.3 * New: M3U8 (Unicode) playlist support 09.48.29 # it's also supported by foobar2000 09.48.41 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 09.49.06 # linuxstb_: those are the major players, don't you think? (on the windows platform at least) 09.49.17 # Quintessential Player also has support for it 09.49.41 Quit Mmmm () 09.50.43 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.51.18 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 09.51.50 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.53.19 # Maybe the playlist format should be an option.... For someone like me (with ASCII-only filenames), .m3u8 is just introducing extra incompatibility for no gain. 09.54.16 # hmm.. 09.54.33 # But I don't feel strongly about it. 10.00.49 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 10.02.34 # * petur has lots of files with funny names (icelandic bands) 10.02.56 # audioscrobbler can't handle them :) 10.05.15 # Stupid question.. How do I access the tag cache.. NAV seems to take me to the filesystem.. 10.09.17 # MrShlee: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache#Initialize_Now 10.10.00 # Done and done.. 10.10.07 # load to ram/auto update 10.10.29 # did you read 'Once the database has been built and committed, you can browse your music using this database by changing the General Settings -> File view -> Show files option to "ID3 database".' 10.11.03 # Sorry 10.11.07 # Excellento :D 10.11.17 # That really should be abled TagCache 10.11.58 # Yes. Fix the wiki if you want 10.12.44 # wasn't Slasheri (or somebody else) going to make a menu entry or virtual directory to be able to browse tagcache when view is set to files? 10.12.45 # Thanks anyway markun :) 10.13.39 # Having a "ID3 Database" symlink on the root of the filesystem maybe 10.13.46 # petur: I'm all for a bootmenu. 10.14.17 # but I don't like virtual dirs much 10.14.39 # like: browse files, browse tags, wps, record, FM, settings ? 10.15.51 # Yes, with a configurable startup screen. 10.16.40 # exactly 10.17.03 # I don't think I like the idea of a virtual directory either - in my mind, the file browser and database browser are two separate things. 10.18.53 # But I don't think anyone is actually working on implementing the root menu idea though. 10.19.33 # if you don't consider it a "virtual directory".. double tapping NAV for TagCache/single for file system/standard playlist 10.19.41 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.20.16 # Weee - got a free mini1g today! 10.21.29 Quit Mordov|hardlywo ("The amount of experience you have is paralell with the amount of equipment you have ruined.") 10.21.52 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.22.15 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-45-246-112.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 10.23.46 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.25.48 Join darkskiez [0] (n=mbryars@195.11.205.216) 10.28.37 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 10.38.47 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 10.39.57 Quit petur ("worrrk") 10.41.53 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A462FC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.48.55 # Hrm, I'm having some trouble with this iPod. The LCD is cracked, so I have no visual feedback, except the backlight. At the moment I *think* I'm in rockbox, and the backlight isn't turning off. Would that be right? 10.49.01 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 10.49.45 Part jhMikeS 10.53.21 # aliask: I guess not. The default backlight timeout in rockbox is 4 seconds 10.54.09 # That, and it wasn't voicing anything. The menu button accesses the main menu right? (And Voice menu's is on by default?) 10.55.10 # Maybe this thing just won't boot because the battery is so close to dead. I'll leave it charging for an hour or something. 11.19.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.20.55 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549660BF.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.22.19 Quit DrMoreau (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.32.34 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.47.08 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-25-252.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.50.28 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.55.15 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@wll193-172.wlan.hu-berlin.de) 11.56.09 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-36-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 11.58.23 Join Mordov|hardlywo [0] (n=mordov@mail.furuno.no) 12.01.32 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.02.28 Quit damaki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.02.36 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 12.03.55 Join webguest69 [0] (i=414a01aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 12.05.34 # is it possiblt to get a build older than the oldest "OLD" build in dailies 12.06.08 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 12.06.36 # anyone/ 12.06.54 # webguest69: you can build one yourself 12.07.33 # for which date do you need a build? 12.07.57 # after the feature freeze 12.08.18 # What are you trying to do? 12.08.42 # getting rid of bugs, :-) 12.08.59 # ok :) 12.09.03 # H140 battery usage is stuffed, there is an issue there 12.09.10 # recently 12.09.23 # Did you even build rockbox from cvs? 12.09.27 # ever 12.09.41 Quit karim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.09.56 # no i haven't done that 12.10.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 12.10.53 # with cvs you can also download the source of a specific date with -D 12.11.11 # thanks markun, ireally appreciate your help, but me and compile whatever stuff just dont mix 12.11.16 Join karim [0] (n=karim@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) 12.11.40 # to many variables, and inside knowledge is required 12.12.08 # What is the bug btw? 12.13.02 # I get one hours playback off the first battery status bar, where I used to get 4-5, I thought the batt was faulty, replaced, same thing, H140 12.13.10 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 12.14.09 # webguest69: I have a H120 and get maybe 16-20 hours with a recent build (and 2200mAh battery) 12.14.39 # well, I dont know, what I see is that my first bar drops very quickly 12.15.07 # so the bug is only the first bar? 12.15.41 # but your player does run for many hours more? 12.16.04 # nope it uses power quickly, according to the battery indicator anyway, the bars drop very quickly 12.17.00 # no idea what it could be, but I don't think it's a 'feature' which was introduces after the feature freeze because you are the first to have this problem 12.17.04 # I need to do more accurate trouble shooting, but it was never like this, maybe its a hardware failure, dont know, just that its strange behaviour 12.17.14 # yes, very strange 12.17.21 # Even with a new battery.. 12.17.23 # Tried the batt test plugin? 12.17.24 # "first bar"? 12.17.34 # The battery symbol works pixel-wise 12.18.24 # uhuh, I have five icons for the wps battery display, full four bars 12.19.46 # ah well, I'll do more trouble shooting, thanks 12.20.42 Part webguest69 12.21.12 Join Rudy4Pez [0] (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 12.22.11 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 12.23.11 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-25-252.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.29.15 Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.29.59 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 12.31.11 Quit damaki (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.23 Nick S0ap is now known as Soap (n=Soap@unaffiliated/s0ap) 12.44.12 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.45.55 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.48.58 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.53.54 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 12.54.20 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 12.58.58 Quit MrShlee ("Changed by popular Request - "I am the heart of your darkness, you stinking oompa-loompa morons!"") 13.02.07 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.02.42 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 13.04.38 Quit Mordov|hardlywo ("The amount of experience you have is paralell with the amount of equipment you have ruined.") 13.08.21 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 13.08.36 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 13.09.09 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 13.09.22 Join odb|fidel_ [0] (i=KM0VB1rh@trillian.ask.fh-furtwangen.de) 13.09.24 # hello 13.09.38 # i have a strange problem with my rockbox @ ipod g5 video 13.09.55 # since today i can see @ my ipod all folder structures, but no files 13.10.10 # What file view mode are you in? 13.10.21 # if i connect the ipod via usb to a pc or mac i can use all files like supposed 13.10.25 Part nave7693 13.10.38 # gimme a sec, ill check that again 13.11.47 # its inside File view, right ? 13.12.09 # Paul_The_Nerd: 13.12.35 # odb|fidel_: That's one way. 13.12.59 # ok, solved hehe 13.13.06 # somehow it has changed to playlists 13.13.21 # as i dont work with lists, there was simply nothing :P 13.13.24 # thx Paul_The_Nerd 13.13.26 # If you hold Menu instead of tapping it, you get the Quick Menu instead of the main menu. From there it's very easy to accidentally change it. 13.13.40 # k 13.13.47 # another question, as im already inhere 13.14.04 # how to boot default "mac os" insteed of rockbox ? 13.14.10 # i forgot that combo 13.14.47 # I suggest making use of the manual a little more then. It would have solved your earlier problem as well as this one, and it's become slightly apparent you don't make use of it. 13.15.03 # k 13.15.05 Join tucoz_ [0] (n=martin@233.84-48-89.nextgentel.com) 13.15.06 # :P 13.15.32 # thx again. 13.16.04 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.19.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.20.30 Nick tucoz_ is now known as tucoz (n=martin@233.84-48-89.nextgentel.com) 13.25.26 Part Paul_The_Nerd 13.26.31 # Thank you for your prompt payment of my security bill. During your vacation, I took the liberty of redesigning your house by adding turrets in the corners, a moat and a drawbridge. I also painted it striped pink and orange. 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Please find my bill for $7 897 463 attached. 13.28.12 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 13.28.23 # hello 13.28.39 # I am sorry, I wrote that into the wrong channel 13.29.16 # lol 13.29.36 # maybe someone here will find it funny anyway... 13.30.05 # :) 13.53.08 Quit fejfighter () 13.57.41 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.58.16 # * linuxstb_ wonders what would be the right channel for hcs's last message... 13.58.59 # #usf, where people link I am funny 13.59.05 # *think, grumble 13.59.12 # :) 14.06.42 # hi 14.06.45 Nick deoa is now known as bipak (n=bip@p508864D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.10.13 # the person next to me is using an iPod with the clickwheel clicking enabled and it sounded like a Geiger counter... 14.11.04 # hcs: goldmine!...start the production of this new accessory immmediately! 14.11.45 # it'd be funny to have random clicking coming from your pocket and see how people would react 14.12.02 # maybe increasing in frequency as you approach 14.12.49 # * scorche pulls out his imaginary ipod and starts to scan hcs 14.13.00 # lol 14.13.14 # * hcs is somewhat radioactive... 14.13.46 # hcs: im sorry sir, but you have been infected...please follow me to the Umbrella Corp labs to be treated 14.14.17 # scorche: oh boy, I would've volunteered 14.14.43 # * scorche exits stage-left which just so happens to be the way to the shower 14.15.19 # * petur notices the smell in the channel is going away 14.16.07 # petur: lies!...i recently woke up from my 2-hour sleep and am getting ready for a contract job i am headed to 14.19.52 # and that means you cannot possibly be smelly? 14.28.35 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp90.contactor.se) 14.28.45 Quit theli_ua (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.28.49 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 14.30.10 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 14.31.15 Quit chendo ("Leaving") 14.31.18 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 14.31.54 # petur: you have utf issues with scrobbler? Is that on a pc or rb? 14.31.57 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-9-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.36.21 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 14.36.24 # obo: on pc 14.36.59 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 14.38.28 Quit theli_ua (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 14.40.04 # preglow: exactly 14.40.23 # obo: It's probably the slimscrobbler plugin that causes it as the bands it sends through incorrectly do exist with the correct name 14.40.48 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-145-148.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.43.58 Join ScoTTie_ [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 14.44.53 Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.47.33 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 14.47.41 # petur: ah, okay. It's meant to send it as UTF-8.. was just checking it wasn't a fault in my patch :) 14.48.54 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 14.49.11 # obo: did you have any reactions from devs on your patch? Is it working ok? 14.50.27 # petur: It's been working okay for a few months without any changes - Linus looked at it awhile ago, but I think there was some question about something specific to last.fm vs a generic log. 14.52.17 # obo: why is it coupled to SWCODEC? 14.53.38 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 14.56.20 # obo: Does it log the tags or the filename? 14.56.29 # obo: why not looking at CONFIG_RTC? 14.56.56 Join `axion [0] (n=axion@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com) 14.57.36 # petur: it should be generic to both SW and HWCODEC - but AFAIK it's untested on HW 14.57.59 # linuxstb: it logs tag, and uses mktime() 14.58.08 # but it needs RTC, right? 14.58.38 Quit `axion (Client Quit) 14.59.15 # petur: officially, yes. If there isn't a RTC, it writes in zero for the timestamp. Someone else wrote a perl script for submissions - that will generate timestamps by counting backwards, using the track length 14.59.43 # so it could be applied for all targets 15.00.18 # petur: yes 15.00.40 # and how's the submitting on PC side handled? 15.01.05 # * petur admits using windows ;) 15.03.54 # petur: either by using a perl script, or someone wrote a web service to do the same (on a .ru domain) 15.04.47 # aha 15.05.23 # I think the perl script could be included as well - I'd just need to get the author to GPL it 15.11.12 # someone experienced crash of function when it returns? i mean all is fine only before "return" is called 15.11.48 # theli_ua: That may mean the stack is corrupted. 15.11.57 # why can it? 15.12.02 # need to run to see a man about a router :-/ 15.12.03 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.2 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 15.12.33 # theli_ua: Your function is doing things it shouldn't... 15.12.45 # like what? 15.12.51 # corrupting the stack :) 15.13.04 # i.e. writing to memory it shouldn't be writing to. 15.13.07 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.13.07 # writing something where it shouldn't write? 15.13.12 # :) 15.13.25 # Is this on the sim or target? 15.13.48 # sim 15.16.52 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.18.07 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 15.19.05 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6FBA.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.19.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.25.03 Join webguest30 [0] (i=52a68001@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.25.33 # hi 15.25.54 # hello 15.26.11 # I'm trying to figure out whether I have a 3g of 4g ipod 15.26.50 # on the device chart it says that only the 3g have 20 gigabyte disks, is this true? 15.26.58 # you can take a look at the images on this page http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 15.27.17 # the images look pretty much the same to me 15.27.18 # the 3g has a row of buttons right underneath the lcd 15.27.28 # which the 4g doesn't have 15.27.39 # the 4g only has a wheel 15.28.41 # it says on the chart that they both have 5+wheel buttons, how does that work if the 3g has 3 buttons more? 15.29.24 # I don't know. but this is a 3g http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Ipod3g-front.jpg 15.29.32 # also, as I said, it says that only the 3g has 20g disk, but mine has no buttans and a 20 disk 15.30.11 # well, I guess that page should be updated some... 15.30.41 # I think you have a 4g. it is available in 20g versions as well 15.30.44 # http://ipodlinux.org/Generations#Fourth_Generation 15.31.04 # ipodlinux has a good overview of the different ipods 15.31.17 # thanks alot! 15.31.40 # you're welcome 15.31.45 # I'll try to get rockbox on it now :) 15.31.54 # see you 15.31.57 Quit webguest30 ("CGI:IRC") 15.32.44 # I wonder which page said only the 3g has 20gigs? 15.33.23 # maybe it says that the 3g only comes in 20gb? 15.33.33 # How advanced is rockbox for H10? 15.33.38 # Which would be a different meaning entirely 15.33.40 # not excluding other ipods 15.33.42 # yes 15.34.16 # Kohlrabi: Umm... I'm not sure what you mean by that question. It's slightly less far along than the iPod port 15.34.31 # but quite usable, as far as i know 15.34.32 # That's what I meant 15.34.40 # It's playing music? :) 15.34.43 # yes 15.34.52 # mkay 15.35.10 # And it must be one of the easiest targets to install rockbox to 15.35.31 # as you only backup a file, copy a new file, and unzip the rockbox.zip to the root 15.36.01 # no bootloader-flashing? 15.36.05 # no 15.36.06 # tucoz: On the archoses you *just* extract Rockbox.zip to the root. :-P 15.36.10 # hehe 15.36.13 # ok 15.36.25 # The wiki-page doesn't have this nicer table I got used to from H120 ;) 15.36.29 # where does ipod_fw come from ? 15.36.48 # * darkskiez types it correctly and finds it 15.36.59 # btw 15.37.22 # So you put the H10 FW in the appropriate dir on the player 15.37.35 # And if it won't work, is there a way to fall back to original FW? 15.38.02 # tucoz: There's no dual-booting on the H10, which makes the install easier. 15.38.17 # Kohlrabi: Yes, you just copy the original FW back to the disk. 15.38.38 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932640.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.38.38 # so booting to USB happens before FW is read? 15.38.57 # linuxstb_, i see 15.38.58 # +mode* 15.39.04 # so that is similar to the archoses 15.39.29 # but i guess when you use an archos there is _no_ benefit of using the OF 15.39.51 # like wma, video etc support 15.40.10 # No, I don't think there's any advantage of the OF. 15.40.42 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 15.41.14 # Kohlrabi, you can still access the UMS mode if that is what you mean 15.41.23 # ah 15.41.24 # UMS 15.41.26 # ok 15.41.42 # .oO(What's UMS?) 15.42.19 # Universal Mass Storage (i think) 15.42.42 # k 15.43.06 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.08 Quit Presence (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.15 Quit petur ("worrrk") 15.45.19 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.48.24 # It may be "USB" instead of "Universal" as I seem to have seen it written both ways. 15.53.10 # abbreviating an abbrev., how amusing 16.00.04 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 16.00.08 Quit Joely_ ("leaving") 16.02.56 Join soultwister [0] (n=chatzill@host-69-144-198-27.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) 16.03.43 # Who could have guessed that the processor was stressed on track-change 16.03.58 # My DJ plan is foiled 16.04.19 # (speaking .talk clips on track change) 16.04.39 # your telling that daily builds dont support album art 16.04.46 # They don't. 16.04.55 # Rockbox doesn't support album art. 16.05.04 # There are unofficial builds that do, however 16.05.24 # Dam such a wonderfull peice of software wow unbelievable 16.05.42 # bleeding edge 16.06.01 # It's "unbelievable" that Rockbox doesn't support album art? 16.06.07 # Feel free to improve on that situation 16.07.02 # lo loud im not saying rockbox sucks im just saying it has everything else but album art support 16.07.24 # thats weird 16.07.36 # Not really 16.08.01 # Rockbox is a music player, and until quite recently, the mere thought of adding album art was stupid (no devices with colour screens) 16.08.30 # ahh i understand 16.08.58 # Now it's waiting for Metadata to be stored properly in the buffer, and until that's implemented Album Art really won't work the way it should (internally) 16.09.05 # If I understand correctly 16.09.30 # how long have they been making making buiulds for color 16.09.36 # I think the problem was that the current patch was implemented around the time of the last feature freeze (or just before) - so the core developers didn't want to pay any attention to it, and now the feature freeze is over, the developers of the patch aren't talking to the core devs... 16.09.55 # soultwister: Maybe a year now, or a bit less? 16.10.48 # that would make be cool cause i like the speed and options rockbox offer compaired to ipod 16.11.12 # linuxstb, isn't viewports also a consideration that should be taken when adding albumart support? 16.11.35 # Not really. If anything is preventing it, it's the ability to store metadata in the audio buffer. 16.11.37 # I'm a bit miffed over this. I was hoping that adding track-announcing would be nice and quick, but now it's entirely beyond my understanding 16.12.08 # im sorry 16.12.11 # me too 16.12.24 # im just a user 16.12.39 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp90.contactor.se) 16.12.44 # But assuming the current album art patch doesn't adversely affect battery life for people who don't use album art, I wouldn't be against committing it. 16.12.46 # i got no skills 16.13.00 # except in using 16.14.08 Join reiser [0] (i=533a2a16@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.14.10 # i get much better sound quality from rockbox 16.14.23 Part reiser 16.14.24 # linuxstb_: As long as it doesn't hit the disk unless %c is present, and it doesn't allocate additional WPS buffer just for the cover art, I can't imagine it decreasing battery life (unless some craziness occurred in the writing), and I'm *guessing* that if it did either of those it would be fixable with moderate ease, right? 16.16.24 # Man, speaking the .talk file for a song on track change works *beautifully* with an album "encoded" in wav.. 16.16.29 # But considering people using the Kosh's build and others still seem to get greater than retail firmware battery life, I have to assume it's not a big hit on it even when being used. 16.16.40 # rasher: What about FLAC? 16.16.54 # Paul_The_Nerd: Probably the same. With mp3 however, I get skipping of doom 16.17.12 # rasher: Odd, MP3 on iRiver at least plays mostly or entirely unboosted nowadays, doesn't it? 16.17.35 Quit soultwister ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 16.17.37 # No idea. 16.18.14 # hm, okay, maybe not so beautifully. I guess my plan is doomed 16.18.31 # On automatic track change it works nicely, but when skipping, it breaks 16.18.34 # A shame 16.19.01 # I'd probably need to pause audio, talk, then unpause for it to work properly 16.19.13 # And playback.c is scaring me 16.19.17 # Why not do that? 16.19.27 # Because it's hard, presumably 16.19.53 # I'd have to find out how to detect that the clip has been spoken, and I'm not sure how to do that 16.20.24 # or even where to look 16.20.26 # Aaah 16.20.37 # It's probalby not even possible yet 16.20.44 # This'd probably be far easier on hwcodec 16.20.52 # I have an idea 16.20.55 # The mixing thing makes it problematic 16.20.58 # In DJ mode, buffer the .talk clips inbetween songs 16.21.02 # As just regular MP3 music 16.21.25 # It'd probably be a lot simpler, since then you don't have to do crazy pausing stuff or anything 16.21.31 # True 16.21.34 # Hrm 16.21.46 # "Insert DJ" on a folder, and before each music file it puts the .talk with the same name 16.22.16 # Or however you want the announce interface to work 16.22.30 # I don't know if the playback code would like the buffered size to be larger than size-on-disk 16.22.42 # As well, the clip might not be the same codec 16.22.50 # So it'd have to be inserted as an individual song 16.22.55 # Which would mostly ruin it 16.22.59 # How would it ruin it? 16.23.11 # Shuffling would 16.23.17 # For one thing 16.23.22 # Oh, that is true 16.23.41 # And I have a feeling skipping would become awkward 16.23.52 # Maybe 16.24.14 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs 16.24.15 # But rah, why oh why could the processor not just be a small pentium 16.24.17 # Ah well 16.25.16 Join barrywardell [0] (i=892b7a86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.25.17 # Maybe I should post what little I have now to the tracker, so someone might one day have a look at it 16.27.14 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 16.30.33 Join chris_ [0] (n=chris@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.30.39 # I never quite got why there are so few 'incomplete' ideas on the tracker. At the very least it'd give a lot of people things to tinker with or ideas. 16.31.06 Nick chris_ is now known as senab (n=chris@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.31.24 # i think i've found a bug 16.32.04 # when you stop playback on a song, then shut down rockbox, then reboot it and press play it used to carry on from where you stopped it 16.32.27 # now it starts playing again, but the playback time is set to 0:00 16.32.48 # Which file format? 16.32.52 # mp3 16.33.22 # it doesn't playback from where you left it, the time display is set to 0:00 16.33.23 # "stop playback" as in pause or actual stop? 16.33.47 # as in shutdown, i'm guessing it stops 16.34.12 # Ah, so you don't stop, you simply shutdown directly? 16.34.20 # yes 16.34.34 # it used to carry on from where i left it 16.34.43 # and the time would be correct 16.34.55 # now it carrys on from where i left it, but the time isn't correct 16.34.59 # it's only a small bug 16.35.17 # Maybe it's the button mappings... i.e. playback isn't actually being stopped? 16.35.23 # * linuxstb_ is guessing wildly 16.36.09 # It's working here, even though stop only seems to trigger on release 16.36.12 # (h120) 16.36.24 # let me try again 16.36.31 # Time display is correct, and resume position is correct 16.36.37 # I suspect something a bit more involved 16.36.59 # Now that was strange... I managed to press stop for half a second, release it... and... nothing 16.37.05 # didn't shut down, didn't stop the music 16.37.16 # it's working again now.... strange 16.37.27 # Guess I managed to do a long press without shutting down 16.37.33 # senab: same file? 16.37.40 # now mp3 though 16.37.43 # *no 16.37.58 # i'm trying that file now 16.38.30 # for the ipod to shutdown, you have to stop though 16.39.01 # same file, reoccurs 16.39.05 # I blame the file 16.39.06 # somehow 16.39.15 # it must be the file 16.39.18 # Probably vbr fun 16.39.23 # of some kind 16.39.26 # nah its CBR 16.39.41 # i'll rewrite the lame header and see what happens 16.39.59 # it's a long file though, 2 hours 16.40.47 # That could be why (longer than buffer-size) maybe 16.40.52 # could be related to this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6068 16.41.13 # In fact, it's probably exactly that 16.41.29 # yes thats it 16.41.43 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.42.03 # infact thats also the exact timing i've tried 16.43.26 # yep it looks like its the audio buffer 16.43.58 # 14 mintues at 192 cbr is ~21MB which is roughly the size of the audio buffer on my 5g ipod 16.45.22 # Paging lostlogic, Slasheri, pondlife to FS#6068 i guess, then 16.45.39 # eep, is there anyone looking at the new 80gb 5g ipods ? It seems a bit different 16.46.09 # i seem to get 3 partitions detected, but fdisk returns nothing.. 16.46.13 # I think someone was looking into a problem with the harddisk using 2048 byte clustersize or something like that 16.46.45 # is there a pastebin 16.47.24 # not a rockbox specific one, any one will do, I think 16.47.50 # looks like pastebin.ca is used a lot 16.48.23 # diskdump gives me this: http://pastebin.ca/184986 16.49.13 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 16.49.29 # kalthare made some progress. have a read of his irc messages around here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20060923.txt 16.50.46 Quit theli_ua ("Leaving") 16.50.49 # thanks 16.51.33 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 16.52.14 # I'm off again. If anyone feels like looking at the DJ feature, I put it at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6083 16.53.36 # barrywardell: 00.20.21 # Well, that's it. I'm stumped. Anyone here familiar with the ATA code? 16.53.37 # :( 16.53.53 # darkskiez: on tuesdays 16.54.51 # yes, i think he got stuck 16.54.52 Quit linuxstb_ ("Client Exiting") 16.55.09 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 16.55.21 # you need to find someone who understands ata.c enough to adapt it to 2048 byte sizes 16.56.25 # #define SECTOR_SIZE (512) :) hmm.. deceptively simple 16.56.54 # * daurn|afk guesses ipod 5.5g stuff? 16.57.35 # aye 16.57.39 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=d57b9aa9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.57.52 # darkskiez: Sure you don't have an HFS+ ipod? 16.58.10 Quit theli_ua (Client Quit) 16.58.15 # also this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6475.30 16.58.18 # linuxstb_: I do, i was trying to extract the firmware images first as per instructions. 16.58.53 # The instructions tell you to convert to FAT32 first (or at least, they should do). diskdump only works with a FAT partition table. 16.59.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#Convert_an_iPod_from_HFS_to_FAT32 16.59.22 # they do not. 17.00.00 # The manual does, I know this 17.00.19 # What does the "IMPORTANT NOTE" say at the top, under Introduction? 17.00.47 # linuxstb_: rockbox only works on fat32 17.00.59 # linuxstb_: follow the converting steps 17.01.24 # So which instructions do not tell you to convert 17.01.39 # * darkskiez 's brain clicks into place and realises the 'download required files' does not mean from the ipod. 17.02.01 Quit odb|fidel_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.02.06 # it was the a) Download the required files, find your iPod and unmount it 17.02.54 # But anyway, those manual conversion steps won't work - there's no ready-to-use MBR for an 80GB 5g, and the Apple Updater no longer exists. 17.03.15 # - so you can't get the firmware from it... 17.03.51 # so, get a windows machine to wipe it? 17.03.53 # Apple now do everything within itunes 7. 17.04.41 # Yes, I think that's the only way with the currently available tools. 17.04.53 # * darkskiez isnt sure how to get a windows thing to wipe it but get it to sync to his mac 17.05.37 # * darkskiez decides to port the HFS driver from linuxipod project (or at least at it to my todo list until someone else does it) 17.05.38 # You'll have to install itunes 7 on a windows machine, and then it should offer to restore your ipod when you first attach it - itunes in Windows can't read an HFS+ ipod. 17.06.05 # If you then plug a FAT32-formatted ipod into a Mac, the Mac itunes will be happy to use it. 17.06.07 # linuxstb_: yeh, but then the mac itunes asks "Erase and sync?" when you try and syncup. 17.11.44 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 17.14.06 # bbl. 17.14.08 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 17.15.40 Join zobo [0] (n=c0a80001@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) 17.15.43 # hi 17.19.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.20.59 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.21.38 Quit senab (Remote closed the connection) 17.21.38 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 17.23.12 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@138.80-202-237.nextgentel.com) 17.26.44 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 17.35.29 Join webguest15 [0] (i=c3ec4b1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 17.43.20 Part Paul_The_Nerd 17.47.30 Quit daurn|afk (Remote closed the connection) 17.50.35 Join daurn [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 17.50.38 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.51.54 Quit barrywardell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.52.13 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.52.47 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.00.01 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 18.03.23 Quit darkskiez () 18.14.44 # pondlife: still around? 18.15.14 # Yess 18.15.18 # Yes, even 18.15.27 # it's no longer 2am here. 18.15.30 # lol 18.15.38 # Sorry about that, didn't wake you did I? 18.15.48 # haha, 'course not 18.16.02 # I leave it open cuz I know I'll see any messages that people want me to when I get back 18.16.04 # Did you see my voice buffering patch 18.16.12 # nope, showme :) 18.16.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6072 18.17.00 # Seems to do the job - just kills PCM before starting a voice clip if not playing 18.17.13 # Bit of a hack, but I think it's safe 18.17.22 # Works well for me anyway. 18.18.24 # yeah, there's definitely nothing wrong with that approach though. 18.18.43 # was it more of a problem in that case than in the case where the music is playing too any wya. 18.18.49 # ? 18.18.58 Quit rasher ("leaving") 18.19.07 # Probably, but this is the best I can do in the short term 18.19.20 # Unlikely to have much time in the next 2 weeks 18.19.58 # this is fine for the music is stopped case. 18.20.04 # You wouldn't object if this were committed then 18.20.08 # the music is playing case... *shudder just in time mix* 18.20.10 # not at all 18.20.12 Quit EvilDude () 18.20.16 # don't you have CVS ci access yet? 18.20.29 # Erm, look at the frontpage... 18.20.32 # ;-) 18.20.47 # ah, good. 18.20.54 # One more coming up. 18.20.58 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@p54BD18F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.20.59 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 18.22.17 # keep up the good work, I might actually have time in the next few weeks to work on rewriting metadataonbuffer 18.22.23 # just to keep things properly shaken up 18.22.54 # ! 18.23.01 # didn't lowlight have a new metadata on buffer patch? 18.35.06 Join petur [0] (n=petur@d54C19A77.access.telenet.be) 18.45.10 Quit markun ("leaving") 18.48.06 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.54.21 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 18.54.55 Join markun [0] (n=markun@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 18.55.40 # oh, I hadn't seen it, I'll make sure to ask him before I do anything stupid. 18.55.43 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.59.52 # stupid and stupid 18.59.59 # he just didn't understand yours so made his own, afaik 19.00.05 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-063-175.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.00.11 # i don't think it does anything more 19.00.16 # on the contrary, i think it does less 19.03.45 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 19.07.12 # it is truly a beautify thing to see a huge project compile cleanly 19.10.38 Join roolku [0] (i=50c01009@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.11.49 # slasheri: if you are around - there is a bug with tagcache: it doesn't collect runtime information for the last track in a playlist 19.12.47 # slasheri: i checked it is not just a case of delayed update, I can play other tracks, shut down etc, the lastplayed and playcount status are not updated 19.13.44 # * linuxstb tests out the album-art patch 19.13.52 # roolku: ah, true. that is a bug indeed 19.14.20 # slasheri: so I would guess the special case when playback stops at the end of a playlist doesn't update the db? 19.14.21 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea5dd.e.strato-dslnet.de) 19.14.24 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54877A60.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.14.29 # we just need to determine if the playback has stopped because of stop button is pressed or playlist ends 19.14.50 # if stop button is pressed, we don't want to save the runtime data for currently playing track 19.15.21 # hmm, do you mean it doesn't update any tracks in the buffer or just the last one? 19.18.36 # as far as i can see only the last one 19.19.19 # I have a virtual directory for all tracks by an artist that I haven't heard yet 19.19.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.19.40 # and when I play this as a playlist there is alway the last one left over 19.21.01 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-14-244.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.21.13 # even if I try playing it as a single track it won't update playcount (seen on wps) or lastplayed status (used in the conditional) 19.21.29 # yep, i will try to fix that soon 19.22.27 # excellent! thanks a lot. :) 19.22.59 # :) 19.24.23 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.25.08 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 19.27.45 Quit roolku ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 19.32.13 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 19.35.51 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.38.52 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.44.29 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.46.28 Part Paul_The_Nerd 19.48.34 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.52 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 19.52.05 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 19.52.34 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 19.52.41 Quit lodesi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.52.54 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 19.53.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.59.55 Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@85.250.72.123) 20.01.45 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-45-246-112.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 20.05.43 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 20.10.55 Join Quazgaa [0] (i=quaz@m228.telcomplus.net) 20.18.09 Join pixie [0] (n=pixie@195.60.253.141) 20.18.44 # rockbox as in the software for mp3players, right? 20.18.59 # right 20.19.29 # If you want to update a version, do you need to do anything special? 20.19.46 # Also, will you get data loss? 20.19.56 # what player? 20.20.01 # ipod video 20.20.24 # drm music? 20.20.37 # want to keep using itunes? 20.20.43 # I don't use itunes 20.20.45 # You just unzip the latest rockbox.zip to your ipod over the top of the previous .rockbox and rockbox.ipod 20.21.03 # linuxstb_: Ah, allright, cool. Would you get any data loss, or what? 20.21.21 # a backup is always a wise thing... 20.21.27 # Can't be arsed 20.21.46 # Are you talking about installing Rockbox for the first time, or upgrading an existing install? 20.22.01 # Upgrading 20.22.20 # I assumed there wouldn't be any data loss, but asking to be sure 20.22.36 # pixie, let's put it this way. I have run rockbox for a year and a half and never experienced data loss 20.22.39 # There shouldn't be - you're just unzipping some files to your ipod. 20.22.47 # Thought so 20.22.53 # tucoz: Just asking to be sure, that's great 20.23.15 # yes. i find the way you update rockbox quite safe 20.23.29 # as it only involves the hard disk 20.26.37 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 20.27.16 # .rockbox is supposed to be the root dir? 20.27.46 # Yes. 20.27.52 # Aight. 20.28.14 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-37-59.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.28.32 # Hm, it looks different from the root dir I already have 20.31.33 # I usually make a backup of mywps directory and then delete the old .rockbox directory 20.31.41 # before nstalling a new one, but thats just me 20.32.07 # My root dir isn't called .rockbox 20.33.02 # the root dir isn't called anything, it's just the root of the drive 20.33.31 # e.g. f:\ is the root, and .rockbox is f:\.rockbox (if you're in Windows) 20.33.48 Join cmug_ [0] (n=wotoo@dsl-aur-fe94dd00-57.dhcp.inet.fi) 20.34.44 # Okay, well, do I take everything from .rockbox and put it into the root ? 20.35.05 # eh? 20.35.17 # just unzip the file onto the drive 20.35.31 # it will just overwrite the files 20.36.15 # what's in .rockbox should stay there 20.36.27 Part cmug_ 20.39.31 # Version doesen't seem to change 20.40.25 # Do you have a rockbox.ipod inside the .rockbox folder? 20.40.30 # Nope 20.40.38 # It was extracted into the / 20.40.44 # is there only one rockbox.ipod file on the player or is there one in the root and one in the .rockbox directory? 20.40.54 # Only one. 20.44.00 # Bagder: Around? 20.45.03 # Any idea why it wn't upgrade? 20.45.33 # did it overwrite the rockbox.ipod file? 20.45.37 # Yes 20.45.37 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.45.52 # restarted the ipod? 20.46.06 # Yup 20.46.39 # then you have the new version 20.46.45 Join cmug_ [0] (n=wotoo@dsl-aur-fe94dd00-57.dhcp.inet.fi) 20.46.49 # Not according to the version thingie 20.47.04 # what does that say? 20.47.32 # 060529 20.47.54 Join Rudy4Pez [0] (n=A@71-34-66-241.ptld.qwest.net) 20.47.54 Part cmug_ 20.47.55 # that is a version from May 20.48.00 # I know 20.48.19 # That's why I said version says it's still old 20.48.26 # are you using windows? 20.48.30 # Nope 20.48.35 # linux? 20.48.37 # Yes 20.48.55 # download a rockbox.zip to your home dir 20.49.13 # then do: unzip rockbox.zip -d /mnt/ipod 20.49.40 # or wherever your ipod gets mounted 20.51.07 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.52.03 # Haha, howcome that worked rather than just having a copy of the .zip in the / and then unzipping it there? 20.52.09 # Strange 20.53.46 # so you are up-to-date now? 20.54.02 # Yep 20.54.10 # great :) 20.54.29 Join rrc [0] (n=user@p54A37A41.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.54.34 # Strange, when I just copied the .zip into the root, extracted and replaced everything, it wouldn't work 20.54.43 # But then a command that does esencially the same thing does 20.54.55 # sounds strange 20.54.59 # Indeed 20.55.08 # Guess it's not the first time I've had a random error 20.55.09 # Hi! What does (void)variablename actually do? 20.55.39 # Have the newer versions done anything about the battery hogging? 20.55.45 # Or is it still as bad? :P 20.56.16 # it's still quite bad for ipods. but i think there might be a little improvement. 20.56.18 Quit godzirra (Remote closed the connection) 20.56.25 # the real reason for that is yet to be found 20.56.33 # Atleast it doesen't lag when you scroll through the playlis tanymore 20.56.38 # Music used to lag when you did that 20.57.04 # now music playback is prioritized over the user interface 20.57.25 # Uh, also, if I want to make a playlist manually, I tried to do ls > blah.m3u, is there a way to make the ls output the full directory line instead of just the filename? 20.57.53 # pixie: you can use the 'find' command 20.57.58 # rrc: avoid a compiler warning on an unused variable 20.58.11 # man ls 20.58.48 # nerds 20.58.58 # pixie, yes. like markun says. find -name "*.mp3" > file.m3u 20.59.27 # petur: Thanks! And I was expecting some C style voodoo magic there that magically does with the variable what the functionname implies ;-) 20.59.39 # Thanks 21.00.03 Join rotator [0] (n=e@74.136.205.178) 21.00.48 # rrc: :) 21.01.01 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 21.01.22 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 21.01.26 # I just want to say, wow. 21.01.32 # I just upgraded from a 2 month old version of rockbox. 21.01.37 # on an H-120 21.01.47 # the almost instant directory changing compared to the old version is awesome. 21.01.54 # godzirra: yeah, made this experience yesterday :) 21.02.12 # godzirra: without dircache? 21.02.26 # markun: no idea... I just loaded the new version and tried to change directories 21.02.29 # and it was fast. 21.03.01 # if you enable dircache it will be even faster 21.03.14 # trying to find out where that is :) 21.03.17 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-253-1-37-59.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.05.21 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-149-50.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 21.05.28 Part MadDog011 21.06.04 # care to give me a hint? :) 21.07.28 # system->disk->directory cache 21.08.11 # * bipak activates it too 21.08.12 # :> 21.08.35 # you need to reboot your player for it to work 21.08.37 # hrm 21.08.41 # not sure how to get to the system menu 21.08.46 Quit mordov (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.09.17 # its under the general settings 21.09.23 # godzirra: a-b button.. 21.09.41 # Is there no way to just browse directories on the iPod like with the normal OS, instead of making playlists? 21.10.06 # I don't have a disk under there 21.10.12 # is there a reboot function in the menu? 21.10.18 # bipak: no 21.10.19 # :> 21.10.30 # ok *g* 21.10.44 # recent bookmarks, sound, general, manage, browse themes,fm ,recording,playlist, browse plugins, info 21.10.47 # no disk 21.11.02 # ahh 21.11.03 # foudn it 21.11.09 # :)) 21.11.10 # under general, system, 21.11.11 # pixie: with rockbox you can browse your files, what are you trying to do? 21.11.16 # [21:09:17] its under the general settings 21.11.19 # :p 21.11.31 # Can anyone take a look at my wps file and etll me whats wrong? Its cutting off the song name :/ 21.11.40 # markun: I cna't find where you browse files 21.11.44 # markun: I can only browse through playlists 21.11.58 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 21.12.03 # holy crap. 21.12.07 # directory cache is neat! 21.12.09 # nice :D 21.12.11 # yes 21.12.27 # and it scans very fast 21.12.34 # Now if I could just get my wps file workign :/ 21.12.50 # pixie: the playlists are in the same dirs as the files you are trying to play? 21.13.12 # markun: The playlist is in the first dir that comes up when I boot 21.13.23 # and where are the songs? 21.13.30 # In a subdir? 21.13.31 # In iPod_Control/Music 21.13.38 # But I can't view directories in rockbox 21.13.39 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@zarathul.student.utwente.nl) 21.13.41 # I can't find out where 21.14.00 # 20:20 < pixie> I don't use itunes 21.14.10 # Argh, not on the computer, when you boot the iPod 21.14.19 # Ofcourse I can browse the files when I plug it in the computer 21.14.32 # I want to browse them *on* the iPod, like you can with the original OS 21.14.34 # pixie: I'm not talking about browsing on the computer.. 21.14.53 # pixie: go read the TagCache wiki page 21.15.48 # hello 21.15.55 Quit Seedy (Remote closed the connection) 21.16.09 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 21.16.23 # markun: It's not music I already had on my iPod 21.16.27 # markun: It's music I added afterwards 21.16.34 # so i'm guessing thats a no to help with my wps? :0 21.16.35 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85.64.207.9.dynamic.barak-online.net) 21.16.35 # markun: I don't have an iTunes DB 21.16.35 # :) 21.17.10 # pixie: really, I don't know what your problem is. On all players with rockbox the file browser is the first thing you see when you turn the player on. 21.17.14 # markun: I just want to know how I can browse the music dirs in rockbox like you could with the original OS. In the original one you could browse directories, and you could scroll through the playlist 21.17.22 # Then you can just browse to the dir with your songs and play them 21.17.24 # markun: Yeh, but I cannot see the music dir there.. 21.17.42 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 21.17.46 # iPod_Control/ 21.17.54 # I can see it when it's plugged in, but not on its own 21.18.05 # why did you put them in iPod_Control anyway? 21.18.12 # Thought I was supposed to :P 21.18.18 # Could I move them to the / ? 21.18.34 # You can put your music anywhere you want. Don't know why the iPod_Control dir is not visible 21.19.12 # 'tis strange 21.19.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.19.41 # I think it might be intentionally hidden 21.19.47 # pixie: try this in the menu: General settings -> File view -> Show files -> All 21.19.48 # for people that use rockbox and apple firmware 21.20.37 Quit Quazgaa (Connection timed out) 21.21.30 # how do I know when "Initialize Now" is finished? 21.21.45 # iPod_Control normally has the hidden attribute set - which is why the default Rockbox view doesn't show it. 21.21.53 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.22.37 # Ugh, moving all the music to / sounds like a pain in the arse :P 21.22.59 # cd iPod_Control ; mv * .. 21.23.12 # Well duh, but it'll take forever 21.23.14 # It's a lot of music 21.23.22 # moving doesn't take forever 21.23.24 # Or create a new folder called "Music" and put it in there. 21.24.02 # pixie: think of mv as a rename command, not cp + rm 21.25.00 # I for some reason break my brain thinking 'rm' is 'rename' 21.25.09 # I have accidently removed so much shit 21.25.10 # :P 21.25.21 # rm *.mp3 /blah/music 21.25.23 # *shit* 21.25.28 # you truely are and idiot :) 21.25.31 # lmao 21.25.34 # Hahah aren't we all 21.25.42 # sometimes.. 21.25.46 # It's just when I'm really tired and not really paying attention 21.25.55 # And *really*, everyone slips in and out of idiocy during the day 21.26.02 # We spend most of our day being an idiot. 21.26.33 # Accidently killing innocent bystanders in the process 21.27.53 # well, look on the bright side. Now mv * .. will not take so long anymore :) 21.28.08 # I should add a thingie to make it ask if I'm sure when I do rm 21.29.01 # Okay what the hell, now it can't find the music dir there 21.29.20 # pixie: alias rm="rm -I" 21.29.23 # rm /bin/rm ? 21.30.21 # in fact it's -i, not -I 21.30.56 # Slasheri: in freebsd -i asks you for every file. Don't know if you want that. 21.31.13 # ah.. but that's not posix then :) 21.32.07 # you are right.. sorry 21.34.16 # Meh, why does it randomly go read only? 21.34.21 # It hates me 21.34.28 # Hrm. 21.34.36 # how do I -use- tagcache after initializing it 21.34.41 # it didnt seem readily apparent in the docs... 21.34.44 # pixie: usually a sign of a fs error (in Linux fat driver) 21.35.06 # Should I fsck it? 21.35.14 # yes 21.35.26 # but the bad news is that there's no good fsck tool for fat 21.35.35 # godzirra: than the view mode to id3 21.36.00 # Bagder: Nothing useable? 21.36.08 # usable sure 21.36.16 # just not very good 21.36.26 # Aight :p 21.36.27 # Slasheri: trying to figure out where to change that :) 21.36.27 # so there can be errors etc it can't fix 21.36.36 # * amiconn notices Bagder around 21.36.46 # ahh got it 21.36.51 # it still tells me tag cache isnt ready. 21.36.51 # :/ 21.37.08 # Bagder: Do you think offering an RVF version of your test video for download would be good? 21.37.17 # I'm asking because I now have one 21.37.32 # well, exactly zero persons have asked for one ;-) 21.37.52 # Can I have one? 21.37.56 # but we could put it there for completeness 21.37.57 # Bagder: Would dosfsck work? 21.38.01 # How many people have asked for the various .m2v versions? 21.38.06 # pixie: that's the one 21.38.14 # Thought so 21.38.36 # Bagder: Oioi, it says "There are differences between boot sector and its backup. 21.38.55 # Copy original to backup, or backup to original? 21.39.57 # how long should it take for tagcache to be finishde 21.40.25 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 21.49.37 # godzirra: no idea. Is it still reading from the hdd? 21.53.52 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 21.56.58 # markun: doesnt seem to be. 21.57.43 # I tried Initialize now again 21.57.50 # it blinked red for a second then stopped 21.57.54 # then blinked red for a second and stopped again 21.58.00 # do I need to reboot after it does tagcache? 21.58.02 Join KlrSpz [0] (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 21.58.08 # godzirra: yes, try rebooting 21.58.16 # k 21.58.44 # it went through saying it was commiting tag cache when it rebooted 21.58.47 # and that it was scanning directories 21.58.52 # then booted to the menu where it says artist/etc. 21.59.00 # but still says tagcache not ready when I select artist 21.59.27 # Slasheri is mister tagcache, maybe he knows 21.59.29 # try initialize now again? 22.00.24 # * godzirra pokes Slasheri 22.02.58 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.168.78) 22.15.47 Quit zobo ("CGI:IRC (Session timeout)") 22.17.19 Nick jborn__ is now known as jborn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 22.17.45 Nick jborn is now known as JoeBorn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 22.24.22 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.11 Quit alberink (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.40 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 22.30.39 Quit obo ("bye") 22.33.46 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 22.36.23 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.168.78) 22.36.23 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.38.30 Quit barrywardell_ (Client Quit) 22.45.24 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.16 Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 22.57.52 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.58.30 Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.00.27 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-236-163.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 23.02.35 Nick Ribs2 is now known as Ribs (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 23.05.08 Part rrc 23.05.56 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 23.08.39 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@76.16.18.102) 23.09.48 # 7me points linuxstb to http://download.rockbox.org/mpeg/elephantsdream-112x64.rvf 23.11.38 # * petur thinks qwertzu keyboards have a strange place to put the / 23.12.16 # depends on your kb layout 23.12.23 # * ender` usually uses the one on numeric keypad 23.12.43 # less chance of hitting the wrong one (or not pressing Shift enough) 23.13.16 # ender`: but you need to move the hand away to reach that part of the keyboard 23.13.59 # it's not that far (and i'm used to press it with my little finger 23.14.07 # hehe 23.14.37 # speaking of weird keyboard layouts, why do laptop vendors insist on totally useless key shuffling? 23.14.37 # * Bagder never uses the num keypad - the *only* exception is when running Rockbox sims 23.14.59 # if i have a long number to enter, i'll always use the numpad 23.15.12 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.19.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.23.05 # * linuxstb_ needs to charge some AAs for his Recorder... 23.24.39 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa133.7.tellas.gr) 23.25.46 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 23.27.18 Quit akaias (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.29.53 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.50.27 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.52.45 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 23.53.47 # random possibly stupid thought: anyone tried disabling multisector on the 5.5G ipods to see if that helps? 23.54.43 Quit pabs (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.44 # (if only as a test)