--- Log for 11.10.106 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.57 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.02.32 Quit ender` (" Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- An) 00.02.57 # done 00.04.04 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.04.51 # my background looks pretty nice now 00.05.50 Quit daurn|afk (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.07.01 # http://zork.net/~sneakums/rockbox-ipod-sim.png <-- one of my dithered backdrops in the ipod sim 00.07.10 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.08.10 # Revamped http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/IpodRuntime 00.08.20 # could someone who cares...care to comment? 00.08.29 Quit mirak (Client Quit) 00.08.32 # I just made the bitmap loader dither it 24->16 00.08.57 # Soap: looks good 00.11.38 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.14.28 # is that 64M buffer patch still needed for the ipod video? 00.15.37 # sneakums: yes 00.15.44 # Looks good to me soap 00.16.51 Quit Rincewind ("Bye") 00.22.15 # ty 00.24.36 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 00.24.44 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.26.23 Quit NickDe (Remote closed the connection) 00.27.56 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 00.28.02 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.192.39) 00.28.29 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 00.28.38 Join RogerBacon [0] (n=asa@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177645438.dsl.bell.ca) 00.29.00 Join Angryman_H10 [0] (i=5438ae2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.29.47 # Did anyone in here ever made a screen optimisation for any build taget for the pacbox plugin ??? 00.30.50 # Two (for) loops (screenbuffer) and i cant get them working... i am getting crazy... such a (i thought) simple task 00.30.57 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@76.16.18.102) 00.32.49 # If someone was going to bet which Sansa has the best chance of being supported... 00.34.47 # The e200 series? 00.35.02 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.36.07 # Just curious. Wife wants a "blue" mp3 player. 00.36.15 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-232-142-126.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 00.37.08 # Soap: get a good one then paint it 00.37.08 # :p 00.37.33 # definitely... 00.38.24 # Soap: iPod Mini. :-P 00.38.38 # Ipod Nano 2g 00.38.39 # ! 00.38.54 # Those are probably further from Rockbox support than the Sansa e200 00.39.39 # Paul_the_Nerd - I would only get her a mini if I could replace the HD with a CF card. Just because the idea is so cool to me. 00.40.14 # * preglow goes on to wonder why a colour would be important... 00.40.23 # Hmmm 00.40.25 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 00.40.39 # Colour is important to me as well 00.40.40 # preglow: Much like flames painted on the sides of cars, the right paintjob on an MP3 player can have a significant affect on performance. :-P 00.41.28 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 00.42.01 # Most ladies don't care about performance 00.42.02 # lol 00.42.24 # Me: "What about this one?" 00.42.34 # her: "does it play my mp3s?" 00.42.39 # I want to do testing for the missed sample bug reported here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6109 00.42.49 # Me: "This one has blah blah blah." 00.42.50 # Hey, does transcoding from wave to flac reduce quality? It shouldn't right? Lossless to lossless 00.42.56 # her: "Does it play my music?" 00.43.00 # heh 00.43.12 # petur is not in here right now, but I was wondering if this bug always happened or if it was on certain input only or what? 00.43.27 # So, in her eyes they all do what she wants, and she likes everything blue. 00.43.28 # does anyone know or do I have to jump in cold 00.43.42 # Are you blue then Soap 00.43.43 # lol 00.43.56 # Soap: then she should find a player with a colour that really offsets all her other blue stuff! 00.43.59 # like, yellow! 00.44.14 # L: transcoding from lossless to lossless is still lossless 00.44.22 # Great 00.44.31 # Because foobar takes an eternity to rip my cd =/ 00.44.41 # don't know if i'd use foobar to rip cds 00.44.47 # guys --> trying to get some info on testing the recording bug. 00.44.48 # What would you use? 00.44.53 # Davide-NYC: no idea 00.45.00 # L: eac, i guess 00.45.01 # 1-2 seconds of dropped audio is cruitical in my book 00.45.01 # I'm trying to just get all my music to .flac format 00.45.03 # EAC is good 00.45.06 # Davide-NYC: hell yeah 00.45.19 # Awesome 00.45.22 # I'll try EAC 00.45.23 # Thanks 00.45.28 # so I guess I'll have to flesh this problem out from scratch 00.45.29 # maybe jhMikeS knows, he's probably the one that introduced the bug :-) 00.45.36 # agreed 00.45.47 # i sure hope cdparanoia IV gets done sometime this decade 00.45.56 # you can hope, yes 00.46.03 # jhMikeS: what do you know about the missing sample bug that Petur reported recently? 00.46.05 # And what would you use to transcode wav to flac? 00.46.25 # its not really transcoding 00.46.35 # It's just encoding. 00.46.38 # right 00.46.41 # WAV is native 00.46.49 # L: EAC can be set up to use a command-line FLAC encoder to do it all in one step 00.47.04 # what about CDEX? I use that 00.47.06 # oh, there's a III 10pre0 out 00.47.14 # Oh 00.47.26 # I'm sorry, I don't really know the right terms heh 00.48.38 Quit Angryman_H10 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.48.45 # So CDEX would be good to convert wave files to flac? 00.49.02 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.49.03 # I'd use EAC 00.49.15 # i'd just run flac.exe directly 00.49.28 # ^^ 00.49.37 # flac -8 *.wav in the directory you want converted should do it, iirc 00.50.04 # Using EAC with the CLI encoder can do the tagging for you too though 00.50.38 # Does anyone with an X5 care to contribute to the preliminary cross-coldfire codec-performance-test? 00.50.57 # oh yeah, tags 00.51.03 # forgot about that because i tag manually 00.51.07 # I did the H1x0 and H3x0, all wee need is an X5 to complete the coldfire targets. 00.51.19 # It would make me very happy. (Noone else cares) 00.51.23 # :-) 00.51.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CodecPerformanceComparison 00.52.30 # Also, does anyone know of a way to encode files using the iTunes AAC encoder without actually installing the degenerate misery that is iTunes? 00.53.04 # LOL 00.53.33 # Oh, and one last (annoying) request. 00.53.35 # LOL!!! 00.54.09 # What code do I need to include in debug_menu.c such that the statusbar is displayed in the "view audio thread" screen? 00.54.19 # http://www.rarewares.org/aac.html 00.55.02 # Davide-NYC: if you don't want to install itunes on your os you can istall it maybe in a virtual machine. 00.55.13 # true 00.55.23 # RogerBacon: iTunesEncode requires iTunes 00.55.45 # am I missing it? 00.55.56 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.56.40 # Oh wow 00.56.42 # Davide-NYC : sorry ... 00.56.42 # PaulJam: thanks for the idea but I may just try to recruit someone to encode the sample WAV for me. 00.56.48 # Just when I was about to download the LAME mp3 encoder thing 00.56.51 # Sourceforge goes down 00.56.54 # What luck 00.56.54 # lol 00.57.04 # lol 00.57.19 # shi* 00.57.20 # lol 00.57.45 Quit obo ("bye") 00.58.20 # there should be no difference in the resulting M4A file if it's encoded with iTunes on a Mac or in Windows, right? 00.59.10 # Davide-NYC: right 00.59.20 Quit akaias (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.59.21 # right i tink 01.00.37 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.02.01 Quit rr3tzbach (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.03.05 # Davide-NYC: The operative word is "should" ;) 01.03.15 # true 01.03.36 Join k0rnz [0] (n=k0rnz@207-237-65-113.c3-0.avec-ubr12.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.04.05 # L - rarewares has 3.97b2 01.04.11 # hmm, maybe I go to the office (both OS), encode on both, and then do a binary file compare. 01.04.13 # which is the version of LAME you want. 01.04.30 # gotta go. Short visit today 01.04.33 # later 01.04.37 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 01.04.45 # make sure to use the new vbr modes, they are excellent. 01.04.52 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 01.05.19 Quit RogerBacon () 01.09.03 # Erm 01.09.07 # Going back to that question 01.09.12 # I have ripped my cd to wav format 01.09.28 # So using the command line would be the best way to encode it to flac? 01.10.04 # I, personally, think that reripping it in EAC properly set up to encode to FLAC would be easier, and saves you the step in the future. 01.10.24 # Oh! 01.10.32 # Let me try setting it up to do it for FLAC 01.10.32 # plus EAC can feed FLAC the tags. 01.10.44 # Awesome! 01.10.56 Quit SereR0kR () 01.10.57 # which EAC can retreive from FreeDB. 01.11.14 # (which you should proof, as FreeDB is full of typos) 01.12.20 # (but better than typing it all in from scratch) 01.13.06 Join RogerBacon [0] (n=asa@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177645185.dsl.bell.ca) 01.13.58 # Yup! 01.15.09 # Soap: I personally think that FreeDB shouldn't have allowed people to upload subjective tags such as Genre. 01.15.30 # I can agree with that. 01.16.03 # Hmm 01.16.05 # Likewise 01.16.23 # The first thing I end up doing is either erasing or changing the genre field on like, every CD 01.16.58 # Yea, if I'm going to use genre at all I use the most general one for the band from allmusic.com 01.17.08 Quit RogerBacon (Client Quit) 01.17.09 Join hav0k [0] (n=nevin@Bowe-11-142.rh.ncsu.edu) 01.17.42 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 01.17.55 # I'm quite a fan of programs that harvest metadata from like, Amazon and such 01.18.13 # hi, can anyone help me take the bootloader off my ipod? i was reading the manual's part about it, but its a little vague 01.19.10 # Did you keep your bootpartition.bin? 01.19.11 # check out the uninstall intructions in the wiki. 01.19.27 # i kept the bootpartition.bin 01.19.40 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 01.19.41 # Then you just "ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin" 01.19.51 # but when i run the command ipodpatcher, it says there's no such command 01.20.01 # Did you follow the official install instructions? 01.20.06 # No use of third party installers or anything? 01.20.20 # if you don't care about the music etc. on it you can tell iTunes to Restore the ipod 01.20.28 # no, all straight from the manual 01.20.39 # Do you remember where you downloaded iPodpatcher.exe to? 01.20.46 # Because you *do* have to run it from that same folder. 01.20.48 # hmmm, well im pretty sure i still have all the music on my computer 01.20.57 # im on linux right now Paul_the_Nerd 01.20.57 # Assuming you were installing from windows. 01.21.04 # Ah, then you use dd instead 01.21.07 # i never downloaded ipodpatcher 01.21.12 # oh, okay 01.21.15 # Same commandline you used to dd rockboot.bin 01.21.19 # But instead bootpartition.bin 01.21.24 # okay 01.21.49 # on linux you propably need to add a ./ in front of the comand 01.21.58 # why? 01.22.56 # wait, so i run the same line i used to put it on there? 01.23.46 # Basically, the last line of dd you did put rockboot.bin as the /dev/sda1 instead you want to put bootpartition.bin as /dev/sda1 (or sdb1 or whatever) 01.24.02 # ah ha, i gotcha 01.24.42 # what command do i run to find out where the ipod is mounted? 01.24.45 Quit Caliban_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.13 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 01.25.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.25.45 # That I honestly don't know. 01.26.26 # haha, alright 01.26.37 # * Paul_the_Nerd is mostly windows based. 01.26.48 # yeah, thatts cool 01.26.48 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 01.27.06 # But I've installed on linux a few times back before we had a windows install method, so I'm familiar with the basics. 01.27.21 # During bootloader testing and such 01.27.25 # i think ill just use itunes and reset it 01.27.32 # That's the easiest way 01.27.54 # alright, well thanks alot, i gotta reboot in windows, yikes! later, and thanks for the help 01.28.16 Quit hav0k ("Ex-Chat") 01.29.28 # Hmmmmm 01.29.33 # The ripping is quite long 01.29.36 # Is that normal? 01.29.44 # I used to use Itunes to do it 01.29.56 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-232-142-126.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 01.30.00 # EAC is slow but accurate (given the right settings) 01.30.33 # Awesome 01.31.20 # I can't stand 128kbps mp3 quality 01.31.21 # =/ 01.32.13 # 192 is minimum imho :P 01.32.23 # yea, if you put EAC in secure mode it slows it down a lot depending on the drive. 01.32.45 # I am ripping @ 3x ...so it's slow as well ~20 min for one CD 01.32.53 # and if you go mp3, make sure to use lame 3.97 -vbr-new 01.33.47 # my lame tag is: -V 2 --vbr-new --add-id3v2 --pad-id3v2 --ta "%a" --tt "%t" --tl "%g" --ty "%y" --tn "%n" %s %d 01.33.56 # O_O 01.33.59 # Serious? 01.34.03 # yes 01.34.07 # I am going at 0.3x 01.34.09 # it's perfect for me 01.34.11 # And you're going at 3x 01.34.15 # LOL 01.34.18 # Crappy drive I have 01.34.19 # and I thought I was slow :P 01.34.39 # I usually got about 7x on my old computer 01.34.56 # I disabled all error corrections and stuff.. 01.35.00 # Oh 01.35.05 # I have all those on 01.35.15 # should be faster then :P 01.35.18 # imo 01.35.28 # vertic420: Then you don't need EAC 01.35.41 # not all at all :P 01.35.42 # I'm anal about quality 01.35.48 # The point of using EAC is to ensure error free ripping 01.36.03 # That is slow. How slow depends on the drive, however 01.36.09 # yea - but I disabled the stuff like the error correction C2 or what it's called from the CD drive 01.36.15 # If you want fast "decent" ripping, there's a lot of programs that can rip quite fast. 01.36.17 # yea, my Lite-on rips @ 3x, my plextor at 5x 01.36.27 # my pioneer at 1.5x 01.36.36 # My crappy laptop dvd writer rips at 0.3x 01.36.38 # Beat that 01.36.39 # lol 01.36.41 # hehe 01.36.47 # dont do that on your laptop then 01.36.49 # is the disc in bad shape? 01.37.03 # Using C2 error detection makes EAC _faster_ without sacrificing secure ripping - if the drive _properly_ supports it 01.37.11 # I don't think so Soap, I rarely use it and even the cover is in mint condition 01.37.29 # everybody told me to disable it amiconn 01.37.34 # Laptops are usually *very* bad choices for CD ripping 01.37.37 # because they said the test lies a lot.. 01.37.45 # I would do it on my desktop if I hadn't decided to fix my video card myself *cough* 01.37.46 # I recoomend reading the EAC instructions and FAQ 01.37.57 # Why is that Paul? 01.38.43 # Paul_the_Nerd: I do rip on my laptop, and it works with bearable speed - if secure mode 01.38.46 # L: They just have an overall history of having less than reliable drives for that purpose. 01.38.49 # s/if/in/ 01.39.09 # amiconn: I rip on my laptop as well, using secure. But in general they've had a bad history. 01.39.13 # I would assume they've gotten better though 01.39.17 # The one bad thing about this laptop drive is that it sometimes locks up, when ripping several CDs in succession 01.39.20 # * Paul_the_Nerd hasn't tried out the drive in this laptop. 01.39.41 # Ooooh 01.39.48 # There's a patch in the tracker that runs the codec thread on th COP 01.39.59 # Ripping speed starts at ~4x and goes up to ~6x with EAC 01.40.20 # Yeah my drive would sometimes fail to open when I want it to 01.40.24 # It just locks up 01.40.32 # (after I've fixed a DMA problem in windows) 01.40.35 # Have to do a powerdown to get it to work again 01.41.05 Quit chendo (Remote closed the connection) 01.42.44 # L - the proper EAC settings for secure error-free rips 01.42.45 # http://pastebin.com/804304 01.43.03 # Paul_the_Nerd: It's not a very effective patch! 01.43.31 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 01.43.31 # dan_a: Yes, but it still qualifies as "progress" 01.44.06 # L - also installing the Nero Aspi layer and pointing EAC to it might very well fix your speed problems. 01.45.34 Quit Soap ("Someone dropped the soap!") 01.45.34 # Soap: There is no such thing as a single best way to set EAC for ensuring error-free rips 01.45.39 # It all depends on the drive 01.46.03 # OH 01.46.05 # Awesome 01.46.51 # I love the clipboard/pastebin thingy 01.47.21 # Pastebin makes life just a little bit better. 01.47.30 # Especially "Drive Has Accurate Stream feature" and "Drive caches audio data" should be set to the _correct_ properties of the drive used 01.48.11 # Setting these options wrong either sacrifices quality, or unnecessarily slows down extraction 01.49.52 Quit lodesi ("leaving") 01.49.57 # I've set up EAC on various PCs, and the optimum drive settings vary a lot between CD drive brands 01.50.29 # If that wasn't the case, all those options wouldn't make much sense 01.54.03 # Awesome! WIth the Nero ASPI Layer, it sped up to 4.2x 01.54.22 # Okay it dropped to 0.3x again 01.54.23 # LOL 01.55.18 # * jhMikeS is half asleep....some bug or something? 01.55.30 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-33-162.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.56.13 # Howdy folks. 01.56.21 # I'm back from my jaunt to the data center. 01.56.23 # I hate data centers. 01.56.32 # Soooo questions. 01.56.41 # Does rockbox do video yet on ipod? 01.56.50 # (Last I asked it didnt, but that was months ago) 01.56.58 # It can read the video element 01.57.03 # It means there is no sound 01.57.07 # Does that mean it plays back video or no? :) 01.57.07 # Guess Davide-NYC took off... 01.57.10 # Ahh ok 01.57.13 # Bummer. 01.57.13 # It plays raw MPEG1 and MPEG2 compressed video streams 01.57.23 # Paul_the_Nerd: but no audio on those either? 01.57.29 Quit matsl_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.57.40 # If it's *just* a video stream, there's not even any audio to play. 01.57.45 # True 01.57.58 # But for all intents and purposes, you can't watch anything more than silent movies adequately? :) 01.58.17 # Give it time. Or better yet, work on it. :-P 01.58.25 # I would if I knew C :/ 01.58.27 # or C++ 01.58.29 # I only do perl 01.58.39 # though I've offered often to see if there's anything I can do to help with that... 01.58.53 # amiconn : So I should use the auto-detect feature to see if my drive supports those options? 01.58.58 # I'm just thrilled I got rockbox on my 5.5 01.59.11 # Oh, that leads me to my second question 01.59.17 # Oh? 01.59.19 # with rockbox on the 5.5, I will have to continue to copy stuff via mtools, correct? 01.59.21 # THe 5.5g is working already? 01.59.23 # It won't show up in windows correctly? 01.59.25 # L: Not really. 01.59.28 # L: Its possible, but not easy. 01.59.39 # Well, its not hard, its just not for the technologically impaired. 01.59.51 # It required hex editing your mbr 01.59.59 # and copying stuff via mtools in linux 02.00.20 # Anyway to fix your mbr if you break it? 02.00.27 # I think it breaks the Ipod right? 02.00.32 # As far as I know just doing a standard restore works fine 02.00.43 # godzirra: is yours 30G or 80? 02.00.47 # Since a system restore just repartitions the drives. 02.00.47 Quit k0rnz () 02.00.49 # sneakums: 30 02.00.59 # ah 02.01.06 # has anyone done it on an 80 yet? 02.01.15 # I know a lot of people were doing it on the 30's 02.01.20 # For some definition of a lot. 02.01.21 # i tried, but the bootloader hands trying to read the MBR 02.01.27 # er, hangs 02.01.29 # Ahh, was that your post? 02.01.33 # on ata_read? 02.01.34 # yep, i'm pjdc on the forum 02.01.37 # Cool 02.01.46 # 80 or 30? 02.01.49 # 80 02.01.52 # Ok. 02.01.58 # I know I had to change my mbr for the 30 to match his 02.02.01 # someone else tried with an 80 also and had no luck 02.02.02 # even outside of the changes he specified. 02.02.10 # oh, what else did you have to change? 02.02.17 # all i did was the partition table 02.02.18 # A few bytes were just not the saame as his. 02.02.26 # I made suire to match his exactly and it seems to work fine. 02.02.40 Join myzar [0] (i=derelict@cpe-72-129-81-32.socal.res.rr.com) 02.02.50 # so quiet :o 02.03.53 # We all stopped talkiong when you joined :) 02.04.10 # So for now I need to keep using mtools to copy stuff right? It won't work correctly under windows? 02.04.12 # where are the details on the rest of the MBR posted? 02.04.13 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@unaffiliated/s0ap) 02.04.19 # (I know it doesnt under linux) 02.04.25 # sneakums: page 4 iirc 02.04.34 # if its not page 4 its page 5 02.05.26 # you can actually use vmware 02.05.48 # or possibly cygwin 02.05.55 # But I do have to use mtools still, correct? 02.05.56 # i'm still trying to figure out the whole process on an 80gb 02.06.04 # one second, i'll check for you 02.06.04 # If thats the case I'm fine with that. Just wondering if it is :) 02.06.09 # page 5 just has the partitoin table stuff, as far as i can see 02.06.14 # I just dont want to plug it into a windows machine and have it die or something :) 02.06.18 # checked page 4 too 02.06.20 # one sec sneakums 02.06.24 # godzirra: thanks 02.06.49 # let's see 02.06.56 # godzirra: my plan for linux is to hack the usb-storage driver to report a 512-byte sector size for the ipod, which i hope will work 02.06.59 # because i like rsyncing 02.07.02 # he first reformatted it with mkdosfs 02.07.03 # Kalthare's post on page 5 02.07.07 # half way down the page 02.07.18 # and used mtools to install rockbox and add music 02.07.24 # Here was my method: 02.07.29 # copy the mbr with dd. 02.07.31 # then installed the bootloader by reversing bytes 02.07.31 # sneakums: Imho the proper solution would be to adapt the rockbox fat driver to work with 2048byte virtual sectors 02.07.34 # hex edit the mbr. (Don't put it back on) 02.07.40 # mkdosfs 02.07.45 # on the second partition 02.07.46 # amiconn: definitely, but right now i want to get it working any way at all 02.07.53 # copy rockbox on with mtools 02.07.59 # dd the hex edited bootloader. 02.08.14 # copy some music on and unplug the USB Cable. 02.08.30 # i'll give it another go tonight 02.08.43 # given where it's hanging though i do wonder if there's something odd about the 80G ata-wise 02.09.21 # also, my partition table does match the end result in Kalthare's big post there 02.09.28 # there is 02.09.32 # 80Gs have a bigger sector size 02.09.36 # somebody said so on page 5 02.09.40 # 30s don't 02.10.03 # myzar: no, both the 30s and the 80s appear over USB to habe 2048 byte secors 02.10.16 # er, have 02.10.34 # if the only change involves sector sizes 02.11.05 # why has nobody edited rockbox yet 02.11.09 # myzar: they dont have bigger sector sizes. 02.11.17 # Sombody said they might. 02.11.20 # do they? 02.11.22 # did you check? 02.11.24 # they don't. 02.11.27 # then what's the problem 02.11.28 # in that case 02.11.30 # Someone else posted right afterwawrds that they dont. 02.11.38 # No idea :) 02.11.40 # what is keeping us from properly using rockbox 02.11.42 # installing it 02.11.46 # and utilizing it 02.11.52 # Send me an 80gig and I'll try and get it working ;) 02.11.56 # myzar: the rockbox fat driver doesn't handle 2048bps filesystems 02.11.57 # heh 02.11.59 # no thanks =P 02.11.59 # * amiconn wonders why it would be easier to hack the linux usb storage driver than the rockbox fat driver 02.12.04 # sneakums 02.12.07 # I think the opposite is the case 02.12.07 # how big is said driver 02.12.15 # i take it that it's open source? 02.12.19 # Is there a "code" option in the rockbox forums that I'm missing? 02.12.29 # I'm trying to get my text to be fixed width 02.12.49 # Nevermind 02.12.49 # have any rockbox programmers been on? 02.12.49 # found it :) 02.12.58 # it looks like they are all just rockbox users and not official programmers 02.14.14 # amiconn: i'm more familiar with linux than i am with rockbox, and since the 2k sectors rockbox patch doesn't seem to work, i thought i'd try this way 02.14.48 # which way, sneakums 02.14.59 # the way we've been talking about for the past half hour 02.15.01 # the ultimate goal is to write a patch for rockbox and the bootloader 02.15.09 # so you can use it just as you can use the 5G 02.15.20 # and not find alternate tools to write to it 02.15.53 # yes, and if i change usb-storage to report 512 byte sectors, i can use rsync like i always do 02.16.12 # assuming i can get the bootloader to even try to load rockbox, which it currently doesn't seem to do 02.16.21 # somebody got that working 02.16.27 # did you reverse everything? 02.16.29 Quit mordov (Connection timed out) 02.16.33 # Ok. I've made my contribution for the moment. 02.16.55 # Can anyone help me with wps files? 02.17.09 # for some reason the wps's I'm downloading from rockbox-themes.org don't seem to be loading images correctly. 02.17.12 # Its very odd. 02.17.16 # i know someone got that working 02.17.41 Part Paul_the_Nerd 02.17.54 # but not on an 80G 02.18.25 # godzirra: you used the pre-built bootloader from the IpodBoot page, yes? 02.18.48 # yes 02.18.53 # I'm using a theme without album art. I think 02.19.22 # * amiconn wonders whether the 2K sector patch accounts for the maximum ata transfer size 02.19.39 # Could be that this is the problem with the patch 02.19.45 # by the way i think your dd lines shold say bs=512 count=1, because right now you're reading the whole disk 02.20.03 Join Sinbios [0] (i=Sinbios@dsl-10-136-121.b2b2c.ca) 02.20.55 # oops 02.20.56 # thanks 02.20.59 # amiconn: on my 80G, with a non-2K/s bootloader, it seems to hang in the first ata_read_sectors call in disk_init 02.21.54 # So anyone have any idea what may be up with my wps files? 02.22.29 # * amiconn cannot find such a patch in the tracker 02.23.01 # amiconn: it was posted to the mailing list: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-09/0052.shtml 02.23.26 # mrf 02.23.40 # whatever's going on with my ipod happens way before the fat code gets involved, though 02.23.52 # the ata_read_sectors call that hangs is the one reading the MBR 02.24.13 # * amiconn knew it 02.24.18 # The patch cannot work as-is 02.24.35 # does anyone have the X5V (iaudio)? 02.25.11 Join JD|uni [0] (i=82c20d66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 02.27.42 # sneakums: The you need to work backwards to find out where things start to go wrong 02.27.50 # Maybe ata init 02.28.32 # amiconn 02.28.39 # somebody mentioned debugging it 02.28.52 # and finding exactly where it stops 02.29.52 # that was me 02.30.07 # but i wonder if lcd calls will perturb timings enough to make that method a waste of time 02.31.05 # you mean it won't be precise enough for you? 02.31.19 # i wouldn't know how you would go about debugging it 02.31.34 # you can't exactly run a large debugger on an iPod and debug it one line at a time 02.33.03 # here's what i have in disk_init 02.33.04 # lcd_log("read MBR"); 02.33.05 # ata_read_sectors(IF_MV2(drive,) 0,1,§or); 02.33.05 DBUG Enqueued KICK sneakums 02.33.05 # /* check that the boot sector is initialized */ 02.33.05 # lcd_log("check boot signature"); 02.33.20 # the first lcd message appears on the LCD, the second does not 02.33.27 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") 02.33.35 # lcd_log() is just a small function that does the lcd_puts/lcd_update call 02.34.23 # I think you need to search lower, and earlier 02.34.38 # at lower level I mean 02.35.23 # you mentioned ata_init, maybe i should log exactly what it does? 02.35.32 # a good idea 02.35.38 # you don't know what it does but you're working with it 02.35.43 # that's a bit bad, if you ask me :P 02.35.50 # If something goes wrong in the ata init, then it's rather liekly the first try to read something will also fail 02.36.58 # myzar: well, i'm not going to magically acquire the knowledge, so i may as well try 02.39.55 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 02.43.22 # heh 02.43.27 # sorry sneakums 02.43.29 # i dunno XD 02.46.08 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 02.49.03 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 02.51.23 # Ok, is there a way to shuffle songs? 02.51.28 # My wife just switched to rockbox :) 02.52.32 # yes of course.. 02.52.40 # how? 02.52.42 # the best way is to make a playlist with all your music 02.52.43 # Play mode - shuffle 02.52.44 # and shuffle that 02.52.47 # or do that ;P 02.52.49 # oh 02.52.50 # lol 02.53.00 # since you cant play all of it at once 02.53.04 # it wont shuffle all of it at once 02.53.06 # so if you playlist all of it 02.53.09 # it can shuffle all of it 02.53.16 # why cant it shuffle it all at once? 02.53.24 # because it would need to scan all your music for that 02.53.34 # the ipod firmware does the same thing 02.53.50 # you can do that if you do a playlist will all of your music... 02.53.59 # it takes everything in ipod_control, makes a temporary playlist, then shuffles it 02.54.05 # but rockbox can have music in many folders 02.54.11 # which is better =) 02.54.28 # so it doesn't know where all your music is 02.54.38 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 02.54.38 # * vertic420 np: Soulsister - [ - #10] - The Way To Your Heart (03:46) @ 128 kBps 02.54.45 # godzirra: i usually do "create playlist" on my main music folder, which gives an m3u that i then play shuffled 02.54.50 # ok 02.55.11 # sneakumsk: better explain how you do that =) 02.55.15 # nah 02.55.16 # is it possible on the player? 02.55.17 # I know how to do trhat 02.55.20 # It is 02.55.20 # ok :P 02.55.24 # so.. 02.55.29 # I dont know how to shuffle the playlist after the fact though :) 02.55.40 # there's a shuffle toggle on the quick menu 02.55.45 # and an option somewhere on the main menu 02.55.47 # hehe, load the playlist - go to Settingsmenu 02.55.56 # Playmode / settings 02.55.57 # settings is the one you get to by hitting the menu key, right? 02.55.59 # Shuffle... 02.56.13 # some of those keys, yea :P 02.56.16 # differs.. 02.56.21 # yeah, General Settings -> Playback -> Shuffle 02.56.24 # once you find that menu 02.56.31 # ok 02.56.36 # she's copying music now 02.56.47 # I never really used my h-120 with rockbox for much except playing folders. 02.56.50 # didnt shuffle or anything like that :) 02.57.19 # Who is Senab and is their build safe? 02.58.18 # amiconn: i had a look at ata_init, but it looks like it just write magic numbers to magic addresses based on the target, i'm not sure what there is that i could usefully check and log 02.59.14 # godzirra: Just like any supported build, it has its problems and its benefits. 03.00.12 # sneakums 03.00.20 # those numbers and adresses probably have some relevance 03.00.27 # possibly sectors? 03.00.32 # or something in the ipod's memory 03.01.43 # myzar: yes, i assume they are the addresses where the ATA controller registers are mapped 03.02.33 # http://youtube.com/watch?v=EkTpUxh8Vxc 03.03.27 # hmm 03.03.46 # a good hypothosis 03.04.02 # the old ipod init stuff is after the ATA reset, but the video is now using the target tree, which calls device init before reset 03.04.06 # but it still makes no sense as to why any of these adresses make ata_init fail 03.04.30 # myzar: my thought also 03.04.56 # perhaps they added some checks 03.05.01 # but no, that makes no sense either 03.05.19 Quit JD|uni ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.05.19 # the target tree stuff was put in CVs only recently, yes? 03.07.00 # unless the 80G iPod has the ATA registers mapped in yet a different place 03.07.17 # another valid hypothosis 03.07.24 # do you have a way of checking where they are? 03.07.28 # Paul_the_Nerd: Such as? 03.08.18 # i'm sure people have said that the hardware is the same in the 5.5G (apart from the screen and battery) 03.08.28 # but maybe they only checked a 30G 03.09.18 # probably 03.09.19 Quit barrywardell () 03.09.27 # plenty of surprises, it seems 03.09.44 # surely some crazy person has dismantled an 80G ipod by now 03.10.30 # i have. 03.10.34 # you mean physically? 03.10.44 # of course thanks to U2, "dismantle" is a useless search term to use when it comes to iPods 03.10.44 # i saw nothing different from a 30 (5G) 03.10.47 # yes 03.11.03 # still a PP5020 or whatever? 03.11.08 # we're talking adresses and non-physical differences 03.11.14 # oh, i didn't pay attention to minor details 03.11.18 # well, i want to know the model of portalplayer chip in it 03.11.39 Quit PaulJam (".") 03.12.31 # ok, so can anyone help me with my wps problems? 03.12.37 # no wps loads images correctly. 03.12.42 # it seems to load some images but not others. 03.12.46 # err. 03.12.47 # no theme 03.12.47 # rather 03.12.59 # I just need to go to browse themes and choose my theme, and it should load everything, right? 03.13.54 # should do, yes 03.13.57 # in the top left corner, it says bground.bmp| 03.14.00 # or pbar.bmp| 03.14.01 # etc 03.14.06 # no matter which theme I choose 03.14.23 # that sounds like it doesn't recognise the directive the WPS is using to load the backdrop 03.14.36 # Why would that be? 03.15.19 # does it happen even with a rockbox.org build and theme? 03.15.36 # I'm using the latest daily rockbox.org build and iCatcher right now 03.15.49 # in the top left ocrner says: bg-320x240x16-u.bmp| 03.15.52 # *corner 03.15.56 # So i'm going with yes. 03.17.11 # sounds like a plain old bug to me 03.17.37 # Thats just weird though 03.17.41 # because some images get loaded... 03.17.50 # Like iCatcher has a background 03.17.56 # its light blue with some clouds or something behind it 03.18.47 # godzirra: do you have folder called "backdrop" in your .rockbox dir? 03.18.51 # yes 03.18.53 # wait 03.18.55 # "backdrop"? 03.18.59 # not "backdrops"? 03.19.18 # backdrops is right (typo) 03.19.21 # all good. 03.19.22 # Yes I do 03.20.24 # ah sorry.. was on the wrong trace... 03.21.15 # that target tree thing was a red herring, i got lost in all those nested ifdefs 03.21.39 # godzirra: Do you have an iCatcher folder with bmps inside ./rockbox/wps ? 03.22.24 # I think mcopy is not copying some folders for some reason. 03.22.30 # Genre9mp3: One sec 03.22.49 # Genre9mp3: no 03.23.03 Quit Ribs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.23.09 # Ah 03.23.14 # mcopy isn't recursive by default! 03.23.16 # Then that's the problem 03.23.49 # You don't have wps bmps at all 03.23.50 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 03.23.50 # Yeah, my fault. 03.23.53 # Thank you guys 03.24.52 # so weird 03.24.55 # everything is slightly off 03.25.02 # with the text and everything 03.25.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.25.51 # do you have the fonts package? 03.25.55 # Ahh 03.25.56 # I bet not. 03.26.23 # godzirra: hehe... no fonts... no bmps :) 03.26.32 # Hey, I used to be on an h-120 03.26.38 # I didnt have to worry about silly things like fonts and bmps :) 03.26.59 # i used to worry about my font, inasmuch as i found one i liked and then forgot about fonts 03.30.22 # ok guys... 03.30.24 # thanks for all the help. 03.30.34 # I'm going to go do something destructive like play warcraft for a bit :) 03.31.02 # NO 03.31.12 # do something destructive like get 80gb 5.5g ipods working! 03.31.22 # Sure 03.31.27 # mail me an 80Gb ipod. 03.31.41 # pfft 03.31.45 # do i look crazy to you? 03.31.50 # ask a friend ;P 03.32.07 # you're trying to get -me- to get something working thats not perl or linux related. Yes, you're crazy :) 03.32.19 # pfft 03.32.28 # everyone knows perl, linux, windows 03.32.28 # My friends have better things to do than let me break their ipods :) 03.32.30 # hardware, software 03.32.32 # TCL 03.32.34 # C++ 03.32.51 # So you're saying my skills are useless? *sniffs* 03.32.58 # but not everyone can enjoy the sheer intensity of programming in brainf*ck 03.33.00 # =P 03.33.08 # the only new portalplayer chip seems to be the 5024, which they say is for flash players, so i guess the 80G must be using a 5022 03.33.12 # of COARSE not godzirra 03.33.17 # lol 03.33.21 # your skills are just... 03.33.28 # just stop right there. 03.33.28 # the same skills 90% of the channel have 03.33.30 # =P 03.33.32 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 03.33.33 # heh 03.33.35 # Yeah, pretty much. 03.33.37 # * godzirra shrugs. 03.33.41 # Sorry :) 03.33.47 # I'm learning Ruby on Rails for now. 03.33.55 # yay! 03.33.59 # Which doesn't help you at all. 03.34.02 # But I felt like telling you anyways. :) 03.34.10 # (shhh. i'm trying to cheer you up!) 03.34.25 # learn some large database 03.34.29 # that's always useful 03.34.30 # lmao 03.34.33 # Nah. 03.34.36 # Mysql and Postgres work great. 03.34.42 # I don't -want- to have to work with something else. 03.34.49 # FAILURE. 03.34.58 # I COMMAND YOU TO LEARN ORACLE 03.35.00 # IMMEDIATELY 03.35.01 # POST HASTE 03.35.03 # :.( 03.35.06 # But... 03.35.12 # DO IT OR ELSE 03.35.15 # I'm not strong enough to carry the 372 O'Reilly books on oracle... 03.36.35 # carry one at a time 03.36.46 # within the decade you'll learn at least a fourth of them 03.36.51 # and at that point, i shall be pleased 03.37.50 # * godzirra just shoots myzar 03.37.56 # Sorry... i'm an american. I always take the easy way out. 03.37.59 # ;) 03.38.02 # HA 03.38.04 # the jokes on you 03.38.23 # s'ok, I'm totally comfortable laughing at myself :) 03.38.23 # i know oracle so well i reprogrammed your bullet to be a new ipod 03.38.34 # the world is a large database programmed in oracle, silly 03.38.42 # if you learn oracle, you will be a GOD 03.38.51 # ok there matrix boy 03.39.02 # pfft, matrix 03.39.05 Join dirt_ [0] (n=d@adsl-69-109-224-103.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 03.39.06 # Anyways, i'm off until tomorrow :) 03.39.07 # later folks 03.39.18 # is 80gb video considered 5g, does rockbox support these? 03.39.25 # dirt_: 5.5g, and no, not quite yet. 03.39.34 # we have some hacks cobbled together dirt_ 03.39.38 # dirt_: But there are a lot of people working on it. 03.39.41 # but you need to have a minor in rocket science to attempt it 03.39.45 # ok i installed 5g bin onto the 5.5 03.39.48 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 03.39.53 # how do i go back to orig state with linux 03.39.53 # I'd expect a breakthrough to happen shortly. 03.39.57 # ok 03.40.49 # so returning the 5.5 to orig state? 03.41.15 # ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin in windows does it i read 03.41.23 # would it be similar cmd with ipod_fw 03.42.18 # dd if=bootpartion.bin of=/dev/sda1 03.42.19 # that? 03.42.23 # will that do it 03.42.43 # yes, where bootpartion.bin is your backed-up ipod firmware 03.42.50 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 03.43.07 # glad i backed it up ;) 03.43.23 # thanks guys.. i'll check the page for any updates, gl! :) 03.44.05 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 03.45.05 Quit L (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.46.14 Quit dirt_ (Client Quit) 03.55.27 Part pixelma 04.00.28 Join afruff23 [0] (n=icechat5@pool-71-163-15-57.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 04.01.43 # slasheri, read this topic 04.01.45 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6866.15 04.02.01 # the "oneof" operator 128 byte patch is wrong 04.02.09 # could you please fix it? 04.02.20 # the correction patch is in that topic 04.07.10 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.12.32 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 04.14.43 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 04.18.10 Quit afruff23 ("IceChat - Keeping PC's cool since 2000") 04.31.28 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.37.29 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@203-173-154-66.bliink.ihug.co.nz) 04.39.08 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 04.40.19 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-169-210.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.41.08 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-66-141-169-210.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.44.21 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 04.51.22 Join daven_ [0] (n=daven@145.175.adsl.brightview.com) 04.52.01 Quit Sinbios (Connection timed out) 04.55.23 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 04.56.47 Quit daven (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.57.01 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.00.48 Join Sinbios [0] (i=Sinbios@dsl-10-136-72.b2b2c.ca) 05.01.30 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB39D61.ipt.aol.com) 05.03.40 Join webguest32 [0] (i=4b222f2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 05.05.46 Quit webguest32 (Client Quit) 05.06.06 Join sniper6_2004 [0] (i=4b222f2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cf6f73c51dfbe7d6) 05.06.18 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.39.42) 05.06.48 # Question: Is there a way to have a boot menu on an iRIver H3x0? 05.06.55 Quit sniper6_2004 (Client Quit) 05.07.19 # rather than do the button combos have a default timer countdown or a button press. 05.08.09 Join sniper6_2004 [0] (n=sniper6_@adsl-75-34-47-46.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 05.08.21 # hi people 05.08.51 # im a noob here and i need help i have a video ipod that i want to install rockbox on but have no clue how to do it 05.09.13 # anybody here? 05.09.16 # how new is it sniper6_2004 05.09.43 # what OS do you use? 05.10.02 # just call me izzy and i dont know what generation it is but its a 30 gig vid ipod and im on windows xp 05.10.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 05.10.26 # ive read the manual and i get lost on it 05.10.34 # i dont get the command part 05.10.48 # i hae the boot loader and the program but i am clueless as to what im doing 05.10.51 # have 05.11.11 # slow down and go step by step. I do not have an iPod so can only be of limited help 05.11.19 # ok 05.11.20 # well 05.11.29 # im just trying to install this firmware 05.12.05 # sniper6_2004. 05.12.08 # how new is this 05.12.15 # is it a brand new ipod? 05.12.15 # how new is what now? 05.12.19 # the ipod! 05.12.20 # . 05.12.23 # no not at all 05.12.30 # so it's a 30 gigabyte ipod 05.12.36 # it's a 5g i take it 05.12.39 # its probably about 6 months old and its a video ipod 05.12.39 # is it black or white? 05.12.50 # so it's a 5g ipod 30gb 05.12.51 # white, frost white 05.12.57 # then there are no problems 05.12.57 # 30gb 05.13.01 # ok 05.13.01 # installation is quite simple 05.13.04 # follow the guide 05.13.11 # Do you know how to open a command prompt? 05.13.19 # it's quite easy 05.13.21 # follow it line by line 05.13.38 # i type command in the run icon in my start menu 05.13.44 # yes, cmd 05.13.45 # not command 05.13.47 # yeah 05.13.50 # myzar: slow down a bit 05.13.54 # ok 05.14.06 # sniper you type "cmd" into the run line 05.14.07 # slow what down. 05.14.15 # that will open a command prompt 05.14.21 # or a terminal window 05.14.32 # with a command prompt in it 05.14.32 # hoe do i open a terminal window? 05.14.37 # how* 05.14.42 # that is how you open it sniper6_2004 05.14.49 # bottom left, start menu button 05.14.50 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.14.50 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.14.51 # go to run 05.14.54 # and type cmd 05.14.54 # * Davide-NYC that what I thought, now we're running at the right speed. 05.15.00 # it opens a black window 05.15.18 # my run icon is gone 05.15.20 # dammit 05.15.38 # here lemme locate it its not in my start menu 05.16.29 # sniprer read this and come back http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial76.html 05.16.48 # or any other cmd.exe tutorial that suites your reading/learning style. 05.17.23 # at the very least you need to know how to change directories and type. Past that is unnecessary 05.17.33 # should be quick reading/learning 05.18.38 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.19.24 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") 05.23.12 Join esy [0] (i=446ee6b9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 05.23.29 # hey is it really hard to install rockbox on a 5g, how time would it take? 05.24.26 # do you mean how *much* time? 05.24.33 # hmm i think im gonna go get the other laptop to work on 05.24.34 # yea 05.24.35 # i was typing fast 05.24.45 # mine wont even opent he control alt delete window 05.24.57 # esy: I can install it on a 5G in less than a minute. 05.25.22 # Following the instructions, as long as you pay attention, it shouldn't take more than 5-10, and that's taking your time. 05.25.38 # from a mac or windows? 05.25.42 # I can agree with that based on what I'm reading 05.25.46 # either 05.25.47 # b/c i know that you have to convert the HD to fat32 05.25.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.25.58 # esy: Well the conversion can take a little more time. 05.26.06 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@222.76.229.178) 05.26.13 # true say, I'm going to take care of it tonight 05.26.18 Join Joely [0] (n=joel@adsl-70-131-135-79.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 05.26.19 # thanks alot 05.26.21 # ah, now we're talking backup, then format then install now we're up to I'd say the hour mark? 05.26.29 # paul, you agree? 05.26.53 # I just bought the sucker, so there's no need to backup 05.27.13 # So, it really depends on how long it takes you to reformat 05.27.21 # The installation steps are quite quick, but that's dependent upon your computer. 05.27.31 # But that's not exactly something that requires you to stand around and do something 05.27.37 # do you think that it would be faster for me to do it on a windows system 05.27.57 # or do you mean by processor speed? 05.28.02 # Hey Paul, is there a boot menu patch for easier choosing of whether to boot OF or RB on an H3x0? 05.28.27 # Davide-NYC: Nope. We don't really see any reason to have a menu, and I don't think anyone else has felt the need strongly enough to risk bricking one during development 05.28.44 # ok im gonna get my flash drive brb 05.28.57 # esy: Mostly computer speed. On a windows system it's a bit easier since you can just destroy the partition then have the Apple tool restore it. 05.29.25 # ok thanks alot appreciete it 05.29.28 Quit esy ("CGI:IRC") 05.34.06 # Is there a concensus that the H300 bootloader (v5) is the final revision? Or is a v6 in the works (or at least envisioned)? 05.34.21 # ok im all set up now 05.34.36 Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 05.35.28 # Davide-NYC: v6 is certainly in the works. 05.35.43 # Well, envisioned 05.35.54 # what is it envisioned to address? 05.35.56 # I'm not sure how much LinusN has done, but it's reasonably low priority. 05.36.16 # Power insert will be RB handled, RTC alarm function, at least those two. 05.36.20 # I don't think we'll get a menu. 05.36.40 # menu is candy, the charging is necessary 05.36.45 # Yes. 05.36.51 # please explain RTC alarm 05.37.08 # wake on RTC event 05.37.10 # got it 05.37.13 # RTC = Realtime Clock. ie. You can set an alarm for your player and it will turn on at that time, and yeah. 05.37.22 # took me a sec 05.37.28 # :) 05.37.32 # (get it?, a sec? haha) 05.37.43 # You're a joker you are. 05.37.46 # * Davide-NYC knows he's not funny 05.37.57 # I make worse jokes and expect them to be laughed at :) 05.38.17 # I just make 'em and duck 05.38.28 # * Davide-NYC ducks 05.39.20 # anyone know anythig about tv tuners and linux? 05.39.57 # ok well i have the command prompt open what now? 05.39.58 # MythTV 05.40.16 # JdGordon: MythTV has a good wiki on the topic. 05.40.20 # ok 05.40.35 # im really after weather or not i can easily invert the colour on certain channels :D 05.41.06 # sniper: follow the instruction in the wiki 05.41.30 Join vertic23 [0] (i=email@dslb-084-056-247-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.41.33 # please trust that specifics questions will be answered but that no one will hold your hand through the whole process 05.41.38 Join Ribs3 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 05.41.39 # :-) 05.41.55 Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.43.11 # jhMikeS: you around? 05.48.48 Quit Ribs2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.54.26 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.54.44 # ok im trying out the ipodpatcher part in the command prompt and get no results 05.54.59 # what could be wrong? 05.55.08 # any error messages? 05.55.56 # "no results" is very strange, as it should always say *something* be it error message or success message. 05.56.09 # or something. 05.59.09 Quit vertic420 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.59.13 # * Davide-NYC ducks 05.59.28 # . 05.59.33 Join vertic420 [0] (i=bla@dslb-084-056-250-091.pools.arcor-ip.net) 06.00.08 Quit vertic23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.02.10 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 06.04.28 # Idea: shouldn't the Iriver Installation topic be divided into H1x0/H3x0 and H10(portalplayer) sections? 06.04.47 # coldfire/PP divide 06.05.00 # It's old, and the H10 port is now. 06.05.09 # Nobody related to the H10 port seems to have bothered with improving it. 06.05.18 # And nobody with the iRiver port really goes back there these days. 06.05.51 # So that forum section will slowly be usurped by H10 queries? 06.05.57 # THat makes sense I guess. 06.07.00 # What we really need is division by installation process, but there's not really a way to do that yet either. 06.07.26 Join Landus [0] (n=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 06.07.28 # Since outside of (Archos) (H100/300) and (iPod) the remaining installation processes don't fall into categories 06.08.53 # Really the H10 and iAudio installation processes, once bootloader merging is possible, could be included in the H100/H300 installation process if they were simply made to use the fwpatcher tool. 06.10.16 # I'm not familiar enough with the H10 and X5 installation procedures to follow exactly what you're saying but I get the gist. 06.10.21 # *jist? 06.10.23 # gist 06.10.25 # I believe 06.10.31 # hehe 06.10.52 # http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gist 06.10.56 # yup 06.10.59 # Basically, all of the installation patterns for H10, H100, H300, and X5 would be "patch your firmware, and then follow the official firmware upgrade procedure" I believe. 06.11.24 # and currently it is not so. 06.12.42 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzz") 06.12.53 # Not yet. 06.13.04 # Just because neither the H10 nor the X5 have you patch the firmware, so no dual boot 06.13.25 # Is fwpatcher for the H1x- and H3x0 the same file? 06.14.27 # currently they are not. shouldn;t they have differing filenames to avoid potential confusion? 06.14.47 # H1x0.fwpatcher.exe for example? 06.15.08 # There's only one fwpatcher.exe 06.15.13 # Where are you seeing multiple of them? 06.15.29 # I did a binary file comparison 06.15.59 Join Sinbios [0] (i=Sinbios@dsl-10-149-209.b2b2c.ca) 06.16.05 # let me try again. I may have been using an old file in the H1x0 directory 06.19.18 Join chendo_ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-76-153.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.19.54 # hmm. now I'm worried. I have (and used) a version of fwpatcher.exe that differs from the current hosted version. 06.20.08 # (for my H1x0) 06.20.18 # the rockbox bootloader is v6 06.20.38 # do I need to re-patch and re-flash with this version of the fwpatcher? 06.20.48 # * Davide-NYC paranoid 06.21.26 # the old file was from dec 2005 06.22.22 Quit chendo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.26.26 # No, if you're using bootloader v6 then you're fine. 06.28.18 # So the resultant ihp_120.hex file is the same regardless of whether I use a dec 2005 fwpatcher or the current one, right? 06.28.20 Part YouCeyE ("Leaving") 06.28.50 # Where is this new one? 06.29.52 # I only see one version of fwpatcher at the Iriverboot page, that says it's for both H100 and H300. 06.30.05 # The date on it is newer, probably because it was reattached right after the attack that wiped our wiki 06.34.25 # I have one from dec 2005 that is not the same. I did a binary file comparison 06.34.45 # that the one I used to patch the OF on my H1x0 06.34.53 Quit myzar ("...") 06.36.14 # i wonder if i could find someone in chicago that could help me out with rockbox 06.37.42 # Davide-NYC: Yes, but it may have had a different H300 bootloader included back then. 06.38.16 # sniper6_2004: Seriously, if you actually paid attention when people asked you questions maybe you'd get help 06.38.49 # Paul_the_Nerd: that's what I suspect as well. H300 development changes the file. So I should just chuck the old file and no need to re-patch&re-flash. 06.38.59 # s/changes/changed 06.39.07 # oh well ive been multitasking alot working on 2 pc's trying to get results i got lost sorry 06.39.11 # Davide-NYC: If the bootloader version number hasn't changed, the bootloader hasn't changed. 06.39.41 # aknowledged 06.39.49 # sniper6_2004: Well, if you don't want our help, don't ask in here. If you do, actually check to see if people respond to what you say instead of vanishing for 40 minutes. It's rather impolite to ask for help and then ignore it. 06.40.23 # ipod patcher is not recognized as an internal or external command 06.40.52 # thats what i get 06.40.58 # in the command prompt 06.42.00 # is the wiki down? 06.42.04 # or is it just me? 06.42.34 # this page is down 06.42.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome 06.43.52 # did you downlaod the ipodpatcher.exe file into the rockbox folder? 06.44.25 # Davide-NYC: sort of around... 06.44.32 # sniper6_2004: Did you download the file? 06.44.34 # yep 06.44.38 # i have it 06.44.51 # sniper6_2004: And you've changed directories to that folder in cmd? 06.45.01 # that's where im lost 06.45.11 # How? 06.45.33 # well i downloaded the patch file and i dont know what to do with it 06.46.08 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 06.47.14 # im lost on how to change the directory 06.47.29 # Someone linked you a tutorial on how to use the command prompt. 06.47.48 # yeah i read that im using the command prompt 06.48.02 Join myzar [0] (i=derelict@cpe-72-129-81-32.socal.res.rr.com) 06.48.09 # And the tutorial didn't cover how to cd? 06.48.24 # cd? 06.48.38 # it does 06.48.52 # sniper6_2004: you have to read, you have to try 06.49.18 # sniper6_2004: Did you actually *read* the tutorial? 06.49.34 # to figure out how to use a command in the windows terminal type "/?" without quotes after the command you want to know about 06.50.13 # for example to learn how to use the "change directory" command (CD) type "cd /?" in the command prompt. 06.50.29 # ~~then hit the "enter" key 06.50.41 # * Davide-NYC one more then ignore 06.53.15 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.57.36 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 06.59.14 Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") 07.00.02 Quit coob (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.00.03 Join coob_ [0] (i=cube@64.38.21.114) 07.00.22 Join Black-Syth [0] (n=gates_of@adsl-75-4-64-170.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 07.00.46 # Hey everyone, I don't want to be a bother, but I have some newb-ish questions about rockbox. 07.01.37 # good night all 07.01.53 # Depending on what your questions are you may or may not simply be referenced to the manual or other documentation, but feel free to ask 07.01.58 # Black-Syth: ask something specific or you'll get silence 07.02.12 # haha -- there it is ^^ 07.02.15 # 'night 07.02.18 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 07.02.25 # To get the most frivolous of the few, where can I download a solid copy of RockBoy? 07.02.33 # I can handle roms. 07.02.46 # It's included. 07.03.05 # Included? It should be listed in the Browse Plugins? 07.03.11 # No, it shouldn't be. 07.03.12 # It's a viewer. 07.03.16 # Ah. 07.03.24 # This is covered in the PluginRockboy wiki page, and probably its section in the manual 07.03.39 # ... and here is the manual documentation. 07.03.51 # I'll take a look. 07.03.53 # I'll be back. 07.03.54 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.06.19 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.07.02 # yay i got a response 07.07.04 # ok 07.07.24 # so it says the rive is not an ipod aboring what can i do about that? 07.07.30 # drive* 07.07.36 # aborting* 07.09.13 # what can i do to help that? 07.09.20 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 07.09.22 # i routed to the folder that the patcher is in 07.09.31 # and found the patcher but what now? 07.09.41 # it doesnt really specify in the manal 07.09.47 # It seems to me that the wiki page for pluginrockboy is a tad lackluster. 07.09.51 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.10.10 # I'll look around some more, if I can't find anything, I'll be back. 07.10.12 Quit Black-Syth () 07.10.21 # is there a way to make the pc recognize the ipod as a drive? 07.10.37 # Black-Syth: A good opportunity for you to help out. 07.10.56 # sniper6_2004: It's an option in iTunes 07.11.29 # oh i need itunes? 07.11.31 # hmmm 07.11.34 # i didnt know that 07.12.01 # Well, you shouldn't, but if it's not turning up as a drive, then you'll have to use it to do that one thing. 07.12.16 # well it shows up on my pc 07.12.28 # do i have to move the patcher into the ipod? 07.12.47 # Hang on, so it turns up or not? 07.13.08 # well on mycomputer it is recognized but the command prompt doesnt recognize a drive 07.13.22 # well an ipod 07.13.45 # You don't need to go onto the iPod drive at any stage in the cmd prompt. 07.13.52 # ok 07.13.57 # Have you read the instructions? 07.14.13 # well i got the drive is not an ipod aborting response 07.14.16 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 07.14.17 Join Black-Syth [0] (n=gates_of@adsl-75-4-64-170.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 07.14.19 # Okay, sorry. 07.14.30 # I just need to know how to install and execute roms for RockBoy. 07.14.34 # sniper6_2004: Ok, I'll take that as a no. 07.14.43 # I might be looking poorly, but I can't really find much. 07.15.06 # well ive got the instructions open and im reading but its a tad confusing 07.15.10 # Black-Syth: Put them on your player and "click" on them. 07.15.12 # sorry im a moron when it comes to this 07.15.17 # ok 07.15.24 # on my ipod? 07.16.10 # sniper6_2004: Look at Step 1b) on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 07.16.32 # ok i got it 07.16.36 # i got it i got it 07.16.55 # its been recognized 07.16.58 # Well, where do I place the roms? 07.17.05 # Anywhere. 07.17.21 # Oh. It's that simple? 07.17.30 # Shite. 07.17.31 # Tis. 07.17.33 # Thanks a bunch. 07.17.43 # I feel completely foolish. 07.17.45 # Haha 07.17.52 # Peace out. 07.17.55 Quit Black-Syth () 07.17.57 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.18.59 # ok now im moving along 07.19.13 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 07.25.01 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.25.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.28.17 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.30.31 Join Paul_the_Ner1 [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 07.31.12 Part Paul_the_Ner1 07.32.05 # ok i now have rockbox running succesfully how do i acces my music? 07.33.14 # Copy the mp3 (or whatever) files over to the player, and then play them by selecting them. 07.34.04 # ok sweet thanks! 07.34.21 # I strongly suggest you read the manual in full. 07.34.32 # yeah im working on it 07.34.47 # Goodo. Enjoy rockbox. 07.36.05 # do i drag and drop my music into the main folder? 07.36.14 # What main folder? 07.36.36 # well where do i put my music? 07.37.31 # On the iPod drive. 07.37.35 # ok 07.37.38 # Anywhere. 07.37.42 # well can i drag and drop it in? 07.37.49 # If you feel like it. 07.37.51 # ok 07.38.05 # is it okay if its in folders seperating albums? 07.38.17 # since it is a file browser? 07.38.25 # Yes, that's fine. You can have as many folders as you like. 07.39.11 # ok its now in the works 07.39.13 # thank you 07.39.18 # np 07.39.34 # sorry for the hounding with questions you've been a really great help 07.41.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp45-143.adsl.forthnet.gr) 07.43.45 Join Black-Syth [0] (n=gates_of@adsl-75-4-64-170.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 07.43.49 # Last question. 07.43.57 # It says that the "record button" is the start button for rockboy. 07.44.05 # What the hell is the record button on the iPod? 07.44.15 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 07.44.46 Quit lini (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.45.27 # well thanks again aliask you've been a great help im gonna sign off for now and tinker some 07.45.38 # sniper6_2004: Well good luck with it all 07.45.46 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.45.50 # alright, thanks goodnight 07.45.56 Part sniper6_2004 07.45.57 # Black-Syth: There is no record button on the iPod, I guess the documentation is out of date 07.46.02 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 07.46.41 # Or, at least what should I do with the button layout. 07.46.44 # ? 07.47.04 # Hang on, I'm looking in the code to see what button it is. 07.48.41 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 07.48.41 Quit Paul_the_Nerd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.49.47 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@mail.furuno.no) 07.52.16 Part jhMikeS 07.52.31 # Black-Syth: Erm, from what I can see, it doesn't look like rockboy works on the iPods... but I think that must be wrong. 07.52.53 # Yeah, I've gotten it to work, but there aren't enough buttons, really. 07.52.55 # I guess. 07.53.28 # I wonder if you can program combo buttons. 07.53.34 # Like, play + something is this. 07.53.35 # Yeah, you can. 07.53.44 # Lemme try this. 07.56.19 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 07.57.53 # Well, it works but it sucks. 07.58.00 # I can't wait for this to get better, though. 07.58.12 # Looks like it's got a lot of potential. 07.58.30 # I've got Donkey Kong Country running right now, it's running like crap, and the buttons are hard to figure out. 07.58.48 Quit Joely (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.59.01 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host4-146.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 07.59.06 # Yeah, it certainly isn't running realtime yet, and I think the fact that iPods have so few buttons to begin with will make getting the buttons worked out hard. 07.59.47 # Yeah, still nifty. 07.59.53 # I'm sure I'll find some use for it. 08.00.04 # Oh, can I get video onto rockbox without Linux? 08.00.34 # Sure, but you need to convert the video 08.00.39 # And there's no sound. 08.01.04 # Meh. 08.01.06 # I'll pass. 08.01.21 # You can grab one from here: http://download.rockbox.org/mpeg/ 08.01.30 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 08.01.42 # Yeah, but it's worthless to me if there's no sound. 08.02.02 # Yeah, it's novelty factor status only at the moment. 08.02.35 # For sure. 08.02.40 # RockDoom is rocking my socks though. 08.03.01 # I've got one of those FM transmitters, and you can hear yourself play on your car stereo. 08.03.03 # I've clocked doom shareware on it, so it's definitely playable. 08.03.13 # Haha, awesome 08.03.22 # Given, it's only doom, but doom is entertaining, and the controls are actually alright. 08.03.25 Quit tvelocity ("ΑποχώĎηĎε") 08.03.32 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.04.08 # weirdo :D 08.04.28 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.04.31 # What else is super nifty for an iPod? 08.05.05 # Customisable WPS screens... a few games... 08.05.22 # rockbox is nifty 08.05.27 # Hmmm... screen savers maybe? 08.05.40 # No screensavers. 08.06.18 # there already is such a thing as screensavers 08.06.21 # for the video ipod 08.06.22 # apparently 08.06.28 # after 2 min, it loops a video file 08.06.30 # i found it on google 08.06.40 # Yeah, the Demo folder trick, kinda cool 08.07.11 # Eh? 08.07.33 # Well, nevermind, thanks a bunch guys. 08.07.37 # 5g ipods check for a video file in a particular place, and loop it as a screensaver after 2 mins. 08.07.39 # I'm working on making this thing pretty cool. 08.07.46 # I'll be in here once in a while, see you around. 08.07.48 Quit Black-Syth () 08.08.36 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.08.52 # mkdir foo 08.09.01 # wrongwindow.com 08.23.35 Quit pagefault (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.24.09 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.24.29 Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) 08.27.54 # hmm, on my 80G ipod the first half of the ATA init just ends up inl'ing and outl'ing 0xC3000028 twice, because the bits it's trying to change are already set or unset 08.28.07 # 0x20150020 08.28.29 # ata_device_init, that is 08.29.03 Quit MarcoPolo ("Bye !") 08.29.43 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.37.47 Quit MarcoPolo ("Bye !") 08.38.20 Quit mordov ("The amount of experience you have is paralell with the amount of equipment you have ruined.") 08.38.23 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.39.28 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 08.39.52 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.40.10 Quit coob_ (Remote closed the connection) 08.40.12 Join coob [0] (i=cube@64.38.21.114) 08.42.12 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 08.46.40 # i guess 0x20 being set does a reset of ide1 (going by ipodlinux's docs) 08.48.09 Join bluebrother [0] (i=Uc0lDySw@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 08.55.06 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.56.07 Join webguest73 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 08.56.26 # pondlife: are you here? 08.58.41 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 09.01.22 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-081-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.01.51 # pondlife: ping 09.02.18 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 09.03.24 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 09.05.36 # * petur just had music skipping three times during a 15 minute bikeride (mp3 320kbps VBR) 09.07.27 # Back now 09.07.53 # pondlife: reg. FS#6145 (semitone pitch): we cannot have pitch offset since it's the same "dimension". I.e. you can start at 100.0% and make semitone steps. Or you can pitch to e.g. 101.2% in normal mode and then toggle the mode and make semitone steps. So there are no "fixed" semitone levels. 09.08.33 # I was thinking you could have a pitch offset measured in semitones as well as the variable pitch. 09.08.59 # Would it not be possible to calcualate the effective % on the fly? The user would only see a % of course... 09.09.10 # But it would let you get back to 100% 09.10.27 # pondlife: with the last patch, we already get back exactly at 100.0% 09.11.28 # OK, don't worry then... 09.11.36 # 'twas just a thought 09.13.48 # pondlife: OK, I'm relaxed :-) 09.14.41 # * dan_a listens to an MP3 on an iPod, with peakmeters but no skipping 09.15.01 # I've done that before. 09.15.02 # :-P 09.15.12 # But the Nano was a little less sensitive to them. 09.15.28 # Paul_the_Nerd: I've never listened to an MP3 without skipping on Rockbox 09.15.36 # Don't you have a 3G? 09.15.39 # Yes 09.15.45 # Which is like... the worst you can get. 09.15.49 # Yes 09.15.54 # Did you do something to make it work now? 09.16.26 # I've got the codec thread running on the second processor, without turning the cache off 09.16.42 # * dan_a does a little dance 09.16.49 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 09.16.57 # WOO! 09.17.07 # And I take it it's a significant improvement? 09.17.28 Part webguest73 09.17.39 # Does it boost and unboost the cores in sync, or is it just permanently clocked at full speed right now? 09.17.46 # MP3s would skip about once every 5 seconds with peakmeters before 09.17.52 Join amsys_ [0] (n=uruz@home.amsys.cz) 09.18.01 # I've not worked out how the boosting will be working 09.18.11 # I suspect it's incorrect, though 09.21.32 # Time for work 09.22.36 # oh, openneo commits 09.22.49 # "Added replaygain support" 09.22.51 # :-) 09.23.30 # My understanding was that the 2nd core can never be faster than the first one. 09.23.33 # "Added APE tag parsing" 09.24.36 # If this is true, wouldn't it be better for the second core to be the "main" core for UI stuff, left at whatever speed is appropriate, and the first one then boosts and unboosted for codec stuff? 09.25.12 # Paul_the_Nerd: I think they are both scaled at the same time. 09.25.26 # Ie. They always have the same clock. 09.25.44 # aliask: I remember someone telling me they could be scaled independently but core 2 couldn't be faster than core 1, or something. 09.25.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.26.11 # By no means take what I say as definite, I don't really remember, but that's the way I thought it was. 09.26.23 # Well, I could very very easily be wrong as well. ;) 09.31.41 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 09.34.07 Quit amsys (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.37.19 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 09.39.45 # Paul_the_Nerd: I've heard that about the clocking, but I'm not sure if anybody knows how to do it 09.40.00 Quit SereR0kR (Client Quit) 09.40.12 # And I think I agree about running the UI on the COP 09.40.18 # i like how th forum preview correctly escapes < and >, but the forum itself doesn't 09.40.34 # do we have something to check if a file is existent? 09.40.39 # like is_file in php? 09.41.37 # bluebrother: you can open() or filesize() it 09.41.55 # do I need a fd for filesize? 09.42.03 # ah yes 09.42.17 # I found an ineffiency in theme loading but I was hoping I don't need to open the file 09.42.57 # when loading themes from the "Browse Themes" menu the wps is loaded twice. Pretty inefficient for wps with a lot of images 09.43.33 # sneakums: Yes, I would like to fix that but I haven't found a good (read "Lazy enough for me") way yet. 09.45.18 # so far on the 80G ATA thing i've come up with: the value of the configuration register is 0x20150020 - no idea if that's significant 09.45.50 # and ata_read_sectors gets into copy_read_sectors before it hangs 09.47.10 # is 0 a valid file descriptor number? 09.48.22 Join jonno [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 09.50.41 # hmm, actually i didn't instrument some branches... 09.50.44 # * sneakums rebuilds 09.51.30 Quit dan_a (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.52.20 Quit jonno (Client Quit) 09.54.41 # weird 09.54.49 # the hard reset sequence isn't working 09.55.01 # Menu+Select? 09.55.09 # yep 09.55.13 # had to do it a few times 09.55.51 # also i was wrong, it seems copy_read_sectors is failing, and it's hanging in perform_soft_reset 09.57.35 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-36-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 09.57.56 Part nave7693 09.58.06 # it seems copy_read_sectors is returning STATUS_ERR 10.03.23 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.04.47 # one of the SET_REG calls inside perform_soft_reset must be hanging, because it doesn't get as far as the wait_for_rdy loop 10.10.52 # huh 10.11.04 # perform_soft_reset seems to be hanging in sleep() 10.11.24 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.16.45 # img, its JdGordon 10.17.08 # tis I! 10.17.12 # with a new toy 10.17.21 # a wrist? 10.17.29 # nope 10.17.32 # a tv card 10.18.06 # dvb-t? 10.18.18 # cept, i lost my rabbit ears, so i have to find someone elses set before i can get it giong properly :'( (gonna move it downstairs and connect it to the optus cable soon) 10.18.23 # nope, cheapy analog 10.18.55 # you suck! 10.19.05 # optus... ew 10.20.41 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@wormhole.domicilium.com) 10.26.52 # bluebrother: if the wps loading patch works, i think you should commit it 10.27.07 # i misspoke slightly: copy_read_sectors doesn't return anything (it's void), but status & STATUS_ERR is true 10.28.55 # LinusN, it works for me -- but I haven't tested on other devices than my player, so I decided to make it a patch first 10.29.21 # the same code is used for all models, so i don't think there would be any problems 10.29.35 # but as it works for me I can commit it and wait for bugs later :) 10.29.41 # exactly 10.29.55 # then I'll go for it 10.30.39 # Any brave souls want to try a radical playback patch? 10.30.53 # Take 1 is up at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6119 - scroll down a bit 10.30.55 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.31.26 # Slasheri: you were looking for this, maybe...;) 10.31.39 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.32.25 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 10.33.31 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.33.38 # pondlife: what is to test? looks like it solves one bug and creates 3 new ones 10.34.19 # It simplifies playback lots. It only creates one new bug, the others are already in existence in some form 10.34.46 # It's a work in progress - any feedback welcome. 10.35.34 # I hope to fix the rewind problem soon, but Real Life means it won't probably be today 10.36.48 # It ,may also fix the "white noise" issue, but I've not been ablke to repro that, so can't really say 10.45.57 Join sublimal [0] (n=sublimal@202-94-44-51.subdesigns.net) 10.48.51 # Damn - I'm still getting some playback skips even with the codec thread on the coprocessor 10.49.17 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 10.49.37 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.51.20 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 10.53.43 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.56.03 # dan_a: Nice work getting the COP running. How have you dealt with the cache? 10.59.05 Quit Siku () 10.59.46 # linuxstb: For now I've just put everything I need to in IRAM, but I plan to do proper flushing/invalidating 11.00.59 # I found something that I'd missed on the PP502X code last time, too - so this patch might work for you 11.01.17 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FOUR-FORTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) 11.01.33 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-206.dyn-dsl.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 11.02.29 # dan_a: OK, I'll try and find time to try it. What was missing? 11.02.30 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host197-144.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 11.03.32 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 11.03.55 # I had some of the magic in system.c just being performed by the CPU for the PP5002, but by both processors for the 5020 11.04.10 # Is anyone with a Nano around? 11.04.22 # dan_a: I'm about to try it now. 11.04.39 # Thanks :) 11.07.48 # * Paul_the_Nerd is around 11.08.11 # I'm incapable of making builds on this machine at the moment, but I can probably dig up my Nano and cable if I'm needed to test something 11.08.29 # I just want you to go into diagnostics mode and see if you can see a "line-in" test. 11.09.10 # See the last comment here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6096 11.09.28 # linuxstb: There is a test entitled "LineIn" in it yes 11.09.48 # Any idea what it's doing? i.e. could it be line-in recording? 11.10.01 # If you select it though, it says "Press Action" then "MENU to continue" and that is all 11.11.03 # I don't know if it even tests anything, or if they just loaded the same diagnostics code because they were lazy. 11.11.42 # On the 2nd Gen nano, there's a recording test that records and then plays back a short (about 1 second) clip of audio from the line-in. 11.12.10 # So it sounds like the 1st gen nano test isn't the same as that. 11.12.10 Join EspeonEfi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-ONE-NINETY-TWO.MIT.EDU) 11.12.17 Quit EspeonEfi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.12.43 # Hm. On this one, as soon as you select the test it asks you to press action, then immediately says to press MENU. There's no sort of delay. 11.13.49 # I wouldn't know how to find out if it's actually doing anything. 11.15.12 # sneakums are you running the DrMoreau patch when the 80Gb hangs on boot? 11.15.44 # o0 11.15.52 # you still need someone with a nano? 11.15.54 # I have a 1st gen 4gb 11.16.20 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.18.40 # dan_a: Should I be seeing a main thread running on the COP in the View OS Stacks debug menu? 11.18.53 # linuxstb: You should 11.19.29 # I don't :( 11.20.58 # Oh, swearwords. 11.21.19 Join drippydonut [0] (n=chatzill@ACBC905C.ipt.aol.com) 11.21.23 Quit drippydonut (Client Quit) 11.22.28 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 11.22.32 # The COP must be hanging at some point before it runs init_threads() 11.23.44 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-ONE-NINETY-TWO.MIT.EDU) 11.25.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.28.52 # linuxstb: in firmware/system.c, try adding "COP_INT_EN |= TIMER1_MASK" in set_cpu_frequency after "CPU_INT_EN |= TIMER1_MASK" 11.29.26 # dan_a: I think your Sansa commit broke the H10 bootloader build (even though it's green in the build table). 11.29.34 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 11.32.26 # linuxstb: What makes you say that? 11.34.24 # Err, the build log? 11.34.51 # Plus I know that they need crt0-pp.o included. 11.39.43 # blueworm: no, no patch 11.42.20 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 11.42.30 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.42.50 # dan_a: The Sansa bootloader also gives the same warning as the H10 bootloader now. All that patch did was to make the bootloader not use crt0-pp.S - i.e. it's not linked into the bootloader any more. Looking at bootloader/bootloader.map, execution now just starts directly at the main() function in bootloader/e200.c 11.43.53 # So it looks like the Sansa was freezing somewhere in crt0-pp.S - which needs to be fixed, rather than avoided... 11.45.05 # I get the you need to recover with itunes message if I dont use the patch. 11.45.33 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-003-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.46.24 # blueworm: i am using the ipod_fw patch, but no patch to rockbox itself 11.46.41 # thats what I meant 11.46.54 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 11.46.56 # ah 11.46.58 # sorry 11.47.01 # no worries 11.47.43 # Is the patch still as is, or have you changed anything? 11.48.09 # not a thing 11.49.14 # that is, no changes 11.49.37 # I also tried building my own bootloader.bin patching the ipod_fw.c in the ../tools dir ... no dice. 11.50.38 # using the bootloader from the IpodBoot wiki page and the patched ipod_fw, i got the same hang - four lines of info and then nothing 11.51.07 # What's the last line displayed? 11.51.08 # linuxstb: So all those "#if(n)def BOOTLOADER" for iPod in crt0-pp.S aren't necessary? 11.51.16 # the disk model 11.51.20 # sounds familiar ;) 11.52.30 # dan_a: Yes, they are necessary. The difference is that the ipod bootloader references symbols in crt0-pp.S, so the linker includes it automatically, so it shouldn't be manually included in boot.lds 11.52.43 # cant remember brb 11.53.13 # dan_a: But all other bootloaders need it manually included - hence the #ifndef IPOD_ARCH. 11.53.47 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 11.53.51 # linuxstb: Ah, I understand now 11.59.37 Join SereRokR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 11.59.39 # sneakums: You could try changing disk_mount() to hard-code the partition Rockbox is using - maybe the probing is causing the problem. 11.59.51 # (in firmware/common/disk.c) 12.00.20 # linuxstb: the hang seems to be happening when it tries to read the MBR 12.00.22 # IPOD version: 0xFFFFFFFF\n TOSHIBA MK8010GAH\n 12.00.31 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.00.36 # linuxstb: i posted some details to rockbox-dev 12.00.59 Join rr3tzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-003-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.01.09 Quit SereR0kR (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.01.14 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.02.58 # sneakums: OK, I didn't see that.... 12.03.30 # it's the very first disk read it tries to do; amiconn suggests that the ata init may be at fault 12.03.45 # but beyond dumping the contents of the status register i have on idea how to debug that further 12.07.30 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3045.gwdg.de) 12.14.18 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 12.16.59 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.21.46 Quit petur ("lunch") 12.40.05 Join rre7zbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-036-139.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.42.10 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 12.50.48 Quit MarcoPolo ("Bye !") 12.51.49 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@160.228.157.232) 12.54.55 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 12.55.00 Part Paul_the_Nerd 12.56.43 Join Jorisleem [0] (i=d97bafd8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 12.56.45 Quit rr3tzbach (Connection timed out) 12.56.51 # hello? 12.57.08 # i have a quastion 12.57.35 # i have a ipod Gen3, is there a a way to fix the buffer underun? 12.58.05 # every serval seconds the music stops that drive's me nuts 12.58.22 # Jorisleem: When you are playing music, press "menu" to go back to the menu, and that makes it a lot better 12.58.39 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 12.58.45 # We are working on a proper solution 12.58.56 # oohw oke i trie it now 13.00.19 # and the menu is Very slow 13.00.32 # becuase the buffer underuns ore not? 13.01.32 # That is because it is trying not to underrun 13.01.39 # ok:) 13.02.09 # if i stay in the menu it is better but in 1 min he does it 3 times ore something:P 13.02.24 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54930078.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.03.13 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.39.42) 13.03.19 # (this is always better than ipodlinux beacuase ipodlinux does it 2 time in 1 SEC!) 13.03.35 # haha 13.03.53 # better is not always good enough ;-) 13.03.54 Quit JoeBorn ("time for "special fish dinner" whatever that is") 13.04.18 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 13.04.24 # oke but whay is the buffer underun only on the ipod g3? 13.04.40 # It has a slower CPU than the later ipods. 13.05.04 # oke but whay does the normal firmware play the songs good 13.05.34 # and the g1 and g2 they have slower cpu than the g3 isn't? 13.06.15 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 13.06.20 # Because the Apple firmware isn't Rockbox. We use different decoders in a different way, and it just isn't optimised enough for the 3g yet. 13.06.45 # The 1g, 2g, and 3g all have the same CPU. 13.06.49 # ohw oke that sounds logix 13.06.51 # c 13.06.55 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 13.09.33 # when is the buffer underun fixed? do you think in a couple of weeks ore months ore years? 13.09.55 # Jorisleem: We can't say. 13.10.02 # oohw ok:) 13.10.19 # keep up the great work guys:D 13.10.29 # i think the rockbox Rocks! 13.10.40 # I have a 3g, and I'm trying to fix it, but I can't say when I will get it right 13.11.03 # ok no problem:) 13.11.25 # I think it is great you working on the problem 13.11.39 # and if i take months i realy dont care 13.11.40 Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-155-1-100-225.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.11.46 # you tried it to fix 13.16.38 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.20.47 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 13.22.50 Quit Jorisleem ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.25.51 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.25.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.27.35 Quit GreyFoux ("Le vrai danger, c'est quand les hommes penseront comme les ordinateurs") 13.41.54 # wow 13.41.59 # THAT was a crap movie 13.42.08 # do NOT goto see "Kenny" 13.50.40 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 13.59.33 # hahaha get it! CRAP MOVIE 13.59.37 # I actually quite liked it. 14.00.02 # * aliask runs 14.01.32 Join Montagnard [0] (n=o_bancar@slip139-92-75-180.par.fr.prserv.net) 14.04.09 Part SereRokR 14.04.24 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 14.06.56 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-45-230-185.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 14.08.19 Part Montagnard 14.08.25 Join Montagnard [0] (n=o_bancar@slip139-92-75-180.par.fr.prserv.net) 14.08.56 # how the fuck did you like it 14.09.12 # it was following a plumber around for a couple of hours 14.09.20 # nothing strange :S 14.09.52 Part Montagnard 14.10.47 # I dunno, it was funny, and you could really relate to him, in obscure ways... 14.21.49 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 14.29.31 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Miranda@proxy1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 14.30.51 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 14.36.11 Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-155-1-100-225.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.45.15 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-161-121.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 14.46.28 # i just thought it was a bad movie 14.47.47 # I don't have a problem with that. 14.48.10 # do you have lua? 14.48.33 # The programming language? 14.48.41 # an interpreter 14.49.06 # Well no... I don't have a PSP or anything that uses it. 14.49.17 # ... a computer? 14.49.31 # Or any desire to bother with it. 14.49.40 # :( 14.49.44 # Why do you ask? 14.49.51 # i need somthing tested 14.49.58 # no one around in any channels 14.50.24 # Link me up and I'll give it a quick run 14.50.50 # na 14.51.02 # takes some effort to get correct librarys installed 14.51.09 # very pascal-like it is 14.51.17 # Ok, and as you probably guessed, I cbf at this time of night. 14.51.24 # aliask: yep 14.51.31 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 14.51.33 # Bagder: very easy to use language it is 14.51.40 # I don't like it 14.51.50 # but sure, it might be easy to use 14.51.50 # ? 14.52.24 # I don't like pascal syntax 14.52.31 # Grrr. Is there any way to see what process is using a file in Windows? 14.52.32 # why don't you like it? 14.52.43 # Slasheri: there seems to be a problem with switching to tagcache view via the quick menu while being in the wps. sometimes rockbox freezes when you then try to enter the tagcache view by pressing select/navi. i have experienced this on a h300 (but with a patched build) and in the uisimulator (with clean cvs source). if i enter the filetree, and then swich to tagcache this does not happen. 14.52.48 # aliask: process explorer - www.sysinternals.com 14.52.57 # Awesome, thanks obo 14.52.58 Join mortimer [0] (n=aitor@199.Red-83-33-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) 14.53.36 Nick mortimer is now known as eismann (n=aitor@199.Red-83-33-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) 14.53.39 # daurnimator: too "talkative" 14.53.47 # how so? 14.53.55 # do/end for example 14.54.05 # ah, i thought that as well at one point 14.54.15 # then found that its only 4 words 14.54.19 # well, its not a strong argument 14.54.26 # you get used to it very fast 14.54.29 # I don't really care, its not a language for me 14.55.21 # the closest I get to lua, is luacurl which uses my lib ;-) 14.55.29 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848B2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.56.06 # Hah, only a bit biased there Bagder :) 14.56.46 # well, libcurl is usable from >30 languages so its not a bias for or against lua really 14.57.20 Quit darkless_ (Remote closed the connection) 14.58.53 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 15.03.04 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964F62.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.05.12 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 15.05.18 Quit blueworm ("Leaving") 15.08.42 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 15.12.03 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 15.12.26 # Bagder: you should add user lua scripting to rockbox ;) 15.14.45 Quit SereR0kR () 15.15.50 # I should get my linux port to run 15.16.00 # (work) 15.17.24 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.232.64) 15.20.29 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 15.20.32 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 15.26.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.27.10 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.2 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 15.30.07 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 15.30.27 Join blueworm_ [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 15.31.18 Quit eismann (Remote closed the connection) 15.32.27 Part blueworm_ ("Leaving") 15.32.29 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@220.160.120.150) 15.35.25 Part blueworm ("Leaving") 15.35.40 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 15.37.53 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 15.47.20 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=djole@cable-87-116-149-50.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 15.47.22 # heyyy 15.47.24 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 15.47.40 # Hm I was wondering on progress status of a H10 recorder 15.47.43 # on rockbox 15.48.07 # My classes are starting and I will want to record them, so I Was wondering if I will hafta revert to the old firmware for that 15.49.29 # There's a patch for h10 recording in the patch tracker. 15.50.22 # is it working fine? 15.50.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6096 15.58.43 # thanx dave :) 15.58.45 Quit tvelocity (Success) 15.59.07 Quit [H5N1] (Remote closed the connection) 15.59.29 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.21 Quit SereR0kR () 16.00.33 Join [H5N1] [0] (i=mrflu@laggy.us) 16.02.02 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3019.gwdg.de) 16.03.25 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p5493093E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.06.32 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 16.09.30 Part LinusN 16.09.43 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 16.12.01 # is there anyway to bind a key to the backlight for the ipod, the same way the apple os does (hold menu)? 16.12.29 # flicking the hold swicth should turn on the backlight 16.14.07 # but i would like a toggle button to turn it on off, without having to continually tamper with it 16.14.58 # Rockbox can't do that... Also, on the ipods, Rockbox is very short on spare buttons (i.e. there aren't any). 16.15.53 # there is a set of options when you hold down the menu during the WPS, is this part of the wps or configurable? 16.16.18 # it's build-in 16.16.20 # That's the "quick menu". It's not configurable. 16.16.54 # you could change keybindings if you edit and complile your own source 16.16.55 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.30 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.20.30 # i'll consider it 16.21.02 # is there any debug logs or ways to turn on debugging that will help troubleshoot the data abort error? 16.21.44 # the wonderfull .map file 16.22.14 # sublimal: I assume you have a 4g ipod or 1st gen mini? 16.22.45 Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=Miranda@proxy1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 16.22.46 # 4g ipod grayscale 16.23.04 # You could try the cpufreq3.diff patch from here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6095 16.25.11 # i'll try it tomorrow and report back 16.26.07 # It would be useful if you could post a comment to that task. It seems to work for me on my Photo (I did a 5 hour test without any freezes), but the person who's tested it on a 1st gen mini is still reporting freezes. 16.26.20 # (and the author of the patch also has a Photo) 16.38.17 Quit Rincewind (Remote closed the connection) 16.39.55 Nick PaulJam_ is now known as PaulJam (n=pauljam@vpn-3019.gwdg.de) 16.40.39 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@220.160.118.62) 16.41.48 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 16.46.26 Nick rre7zbach is now known as rretzbach (n=robert@dslb-084-062-036-139.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.50.03 Join elinenbe_work [0] (i=d1c4c007@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.55.12 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54877482.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.58.35 # pondlife: there is still a problem with the new patch you posted at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6119 16.59.49 # Yes 16.59.53 # Several! 17.00.00 # pondlife: i have tried it in the uisimulator for h300. settings were reset, and repeat set to off. the first album played fine, after it finished, i selected a different album... 17.00.08 Quit theli_ua ("Leaving") 17.00.36 # It has a problem when the buffer wraps round, but I've not had any time to code today yet. 17.01.08 # ... the first tracks played fine, but the track track that was playing while the buffer was refilled was skipped to the next track while or after bufferin was complete 17.01.35 # Yes, that's the one I think. Did it play a part of the track, then just skip forward to the next one? 17.01.47 # yes 17.02.22 # OK. There's a third problem where stop/play results in the WPS display and playback position being askew. 17.05.53 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 17.05.54 Quit [TCK] (Remote closed the connection) 17.06.28 Join TCK [0] (n=hahano@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 17.08.09 # I've added a comment, but no new code... 17.10.45 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 17.11.59 # Thanks for testing 17.14.58 Join barrywardell [0] (i=892b7a86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 17.16.18 # i'm not sure if this is related to the stop/play issue, but if you stop playback and enter the audio debug menu the codec buffer stays filled (without the patch it had a small negative number) 17.24.29 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-014-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.26.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.27.19 Quit SereR0kR (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.28.32 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 17.28.47 Join mots [0] (n=Mots@N154P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 17.29.10 # hi, i have a problem with my iriver h340, maybe you guys could help me 17.29.23 # i just got it and wanted to put rockbox onto it 17.29.49 # but i'm not able to mount it (both linux/windows) 17.30.42 # i connected it to my pc, but it only says "charging" 17.31.15 # do I have to press any key or sth? 17.32.30 # oh 17.32.33 # i got it 17.33.32 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-106-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.35.36 Quit GreyFoux (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.43.05 Quit elinenbe_work ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.51.57 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 17.52.40 Quit mots (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.56.05 Quit bluey- (Remote closed the connection) 17.58.29 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 17.59.33 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 18.00.49 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@88.80-202-254.nextgentel.com) 18.01.16 Nick Ribs3 is now known as Ribs (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 18.01.32 Join anjo [0] (n=anjo@210.89.157.65.static.nexnet.net.au) 18.02.54 # 4g with daily build rockbox connecting via firewire & usb to xp & linux. do i have to reboot the ipod into disk mode every time i connect to a pc? no autodetect? 18.03.25 # There's no autodetect for firewire, but it should work for USB. 18.05.06 # neither connection or OS autodetects the ipod unless it put it into disk mode first. 18.05.24 # I put it* 18.05.30 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp90.contactor.se) 18.05.59 # and when i disconnect it always says OK to disconnect but I need to reset to use the rockbox again 18.06.07 # unless it's a user error? me. 18.07.54 # There's not much scope for user error. If you insert a usb cable, Rockbox should detect it and reboot, unless you are holding MENU at the time. 18.08.03 # (holding MENU prevents the reboot) 18.09.58 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=nn@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust546.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 18.11.27 Quit lini (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.13.58 Quit petur ("/me+bike=home") 18.17.37 Join vertic23 [0] (n=bla@mail.akg-images.co.uk) 18.19.08 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 18.23.48 Quit vertic23 () 18.25.47 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h210n7c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 18.27.49 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 18.28.43 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 18.31.27 Quit vertic420 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.33.40 # ok, i changed builds and usb is now autodetected. thanks linuxstb 18.34.52 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEECFD.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.37.44 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp171-136.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.38.18 Part anjo ("Leaving") 18.38.40 # which lame encoder should I use with EAC? 18.38.45 # 3.97 final? 18.39.58 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.46 # XavierGr: I don't think it matters much, why not use oggenc anyway and enjoy the fresh breeze of freedom ;) 18.44.28 # hehe 18.44.38 # well I'd rather stick to my old habbits 18.44.42 # even if ogg is better 18.45.20 # yeah but there are still people out there who can't play them (like ipod owners without rb) 18.46.51 # the best would propably be to rip them into a lossles format and then transcode (and keep the lossless files). so you don't have to rerip if you want to change the format. 18.47.52 Quit myzar ("...") 18.48.31 # well that is not an option 18.48.50 # I can't store all my music into a lossless format 18.49.13 # and I am pretty sure that I can't tell the difference between the original and preset standard with lame 18.49.42 Join myzar [0] (i=derelict@cpe-72-129-81-32.socal.res.rr.com) 18.50.27 # with eac you can use the latest beta lame. 18.50.50 # I encode with vbr v3 and I don't hear a difference 18.50.55 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 18.51.39 Quit lini (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.52.07 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549675F9.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.52.19 # now I am completely confused! 18.53.04 # EAC seems to change the bitrate if you change your selection, but I thought that alt-preset standard was a standard joint stereo vbr rip 18.53.08 # to say it simple: eac can use every version of lame, but the newest beta is the best (and it is stable enough) 18.53.20 # XavierGr: just use $ cdparanoia 1 -w - | flac - -o 1.flac # ;) 18.53.49 # Rincewind_: EAC has 2 options on compression tab, 1 for bitrate and another one for commandline on the encoder 18.54.04 # I use a custom commandline in eac. If you speak german you can find information on www.audiohq.de 18.54.20 Quit SereR0kR () 18.54.29 # Rincewind_: I thought that using the command line with -alt-preset standard was a specific setting that didn't had to do with bitrate 18.54.40 # if you want, I can send you my eac profile. 18.54.56 # thanks but I have to run! I will figure this later 18.55.09 # (fears that he ripped many mp3s the wrong way) 18.55.11 # alt-preset-standard ist depreceiated, btw 18.55.20 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 18.55.26 # depreciated? you mean not good? 18.55.28 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 18.57.04 # it's not bad, it's mapped internally to the right setting, but you get more predictable results if you us -v3 or -v2 (these are vbr levels) 18.57.07 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.57.40 # this is my commandline: -V 3 --vbr-new --id3v2-only --pad-id3v2 --ignore-tag-errors --tt "%t" --ta "%a" --tl "%g" --ty "%y" --tn "%n" --tg "%m" %s %d 18.57.50 # omg! 18.57.55 # thanks but I have to run! 18.57.57 # bye 18.58.07 # the only important bits are -v3 --vbr-new 18.59.29 # * Rincewind_ is off to fetch something to eat 19.00.06 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 19.01.41 Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") 19.02.56 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 19.03.12 # iirc, --alt-preset standard is the same as -V 2 in recent lame versions. 19.09.38 # Lear: so rockbox can play most aacs now? 19.10.09 # Not quite yet. Need the metadata.c patch too, which I'll commit soonish. :) 19.10.13 # Lear: most of this is code that will survive any swapping out of faad, yes? 19.10.18 Quit lini (Read error: 128 (Network is unreachable)) 19.10.21 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 19.10.22 # Have some cleaning up to do... 19.10.40 # and look at the build table ;) 19.10.50 # Depends on if the replacement comes with an MP4 file parsing. 19.10.57 # That's the cleaning up I was refering to... :) 19.11.17 # Ah, forgot to commit a file... 19.12.02 Quit mordov (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.16.32 # * amiconn appears 19.16.49 # * preglow jumps 19.17.00 Join mots [0] (n=mots@N154P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 19.17.34 # hi, i just tried the experemental build by KOSH and the wps from the 24-bit-collection 19.17.55 # my problem is: nearly all objects in the wps seem to be misplaced 19.19.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.19.05 # could you guys maybe tell me how to fix that? 19.19.20 # Do you have the fonts installed? 19.19.29 # well 19.19.29 # kosh would pretty be the person to ask about his own build, though 19.19.34 # dunno 19.19.43 # insert much 19.19.44 # guess they came with the wps-collection 19.20.29 # There's a font zip file on the daily builds page (the last item - with a Rockbox logo above it). 19.24.32 # how do I restart my iriver using rockbox? 19.24.49 # got it 19.25.24 # well 19.25.51 # now i have the fonts installed, but the themes are still all b0rked 19.25.51 Quit barrywardell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.26.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.26.09 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nico@laf31-4-82-236-43-128.fbx.proxad.net) 19.27.07 # any ideas? 19.27.24 # reload the theme 19.27.46 # already did tha 19.27.47 # t 19.28.02 # from Browse Themes? 19.28.02 # tried lots of themes 19.28.10 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@160.228.157.232) 19.28.11 # but they all seem to be b0rk 19.28.15 # well, yeah 19.29.05 # Does the font change when you switch themes? 19.29.15 # nope 19.29.23 Quit lini (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.29.34 # If you go to Browse Fonts, do you see lots of fonts? 19.29.53 # Are you sure you installed fonts properly? They must be in/.rockbox/fonts 19.30.49 # oh 19.30.58 # maybe i forgot unmounting it 19.31.10 # i hate nautilus not writing files immediately 19.31.40 Quit _FireFly_ (Remote closed the connection) 19.32.06 # * Genre9mp3 thinks taht more people have problems with themes than with installation :/ 19.32.22 # well 19.32.29 Join rr3tzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-036-139.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.32.33 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.40 # maybe the theme-pack should include fonts, at least 19.32.59 # *or at least notice that you need them 19.34.25 # thx 19.34.36 # ajant now works 19.34.43 # but hipod-mod is still b0rk 19.34.45 # >:O 19.36.50 Join nls [0] (i=HydraIRC@nl104-202-216.student.uu.se) 19.41.32 Quit Xerion (" ") 19.42.53 # does anyone know why all hipod-based themes are b0rk? 19.44.53 # mots, did you install the fonts? 19.44.56 # well 19.45.06 # i just found out, that original hipod works 19.45.38 # but hipod_ca, hipod_ca_dark and hipod_mod don't do 19.46.01 # nls: yepp 19.48.02 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 19.48.13 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 19.53.02 # no ideaas? 19.53.09 # *-a 19.53.21 # where did you get the themes 19.53.24 # ? 19.53.37 # well 19.53.45 # from misticriver.com 19.54.21 # do they require any patches, special fonts, black magic etc? 19.54.39 # http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=41893 19.54.40 # well 19.55.03 # i tried it on original firmware -> extreme b0rk 19.55.18 # then i tried on kosh's build, less b0rk, but still b0rk 19.56.53 # hm, I don't like this _b0rk_ word... 19.57.07 # well 19.57.11 # lets say broken 19.57.20 # Seems to need album art patch... 19.57.48 # ... album art is included in kosh's build 20.01.17 # mots... I think that you have to edit the wps file if you want to use it 20.01.38 # The album art patch recently changed and needs different formating 20.02.16 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.03.11 # Genre9mp3: and how do I have to change it? 20.03.28 # mots: Open the wps file with a text editor 20.04.07 # Find the %C|x|x|x|x| line (where x are numbers) 20.04.53 # And make it: %Cl|x|x|sx|sx| (the x numbers should be the same) 20.05.21 # Then add a %C at the end of the code 20.05.36 # Save it, reload it and you are done! :) 20.05.41 Part Rincewind_ 20.07.40 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-213-196-210-194.netcologne.de) 20.07.55 # join #kde 20.08.46 # no 20.09.17 # petur: LOL 20.10.31 Part arkascha ("Konversation terminated!") 20.12.02 # Genre9mp3: great thx, that did it 20.13.35 Join ToyKeeper [0] (i=spanky@c-24-9-90-246.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 20.13.36 # mots: cool! :) 20.13.40 Quit mots (Remote closed the connection) 20.15.11 # i just saw that on the h300 you can also press play+right to jump to the next directory. i was wondering if it would be a good idea to map this to rec+right , because you can press those two button with one finger. 20.15.55 Join mots [0] (n=mots@N154P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 20.16.30 # i still have one question, i know that it doesn't belong here, but I guess you guys could know: 20.17.23 # is there any tool (cli, gui, don't care), that makes directory structures for songs (using tags) like: ARTIST/ALBUM/NUMBER/SONG ? 20.17.54 # lots. 20.18.10 # tell me one (for linux) 20.18.20 # easytag 20.18.31 # easytag is capable of this? 20.18.38 # great thx 20.18.40 # yes, and the opposite too 20.18.46 # well 20.19.01 # don't care about the opposite, as i spent days tagging them 20.19.22 # i'm pretty sure amarok does it that way too 20.19.35 # well 20.19.36 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host211-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 20.19.46 # did not find anything like that in arok 20.20.01 Join sucka [0] (i=nn@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust546.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 20.20.16 # in collection browser make a selection (an artist or whatever), right-click, manage files -> organize files 20.22.35 # <_jhMikeS_> all the iRivers have mono remotes right? 20.23.01 Nick _jhMikeS_ is now known as jhMikeS (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-161-121.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 20.23.38 # jhMikeS: Yes... 1bpp 20.26.18 # The sim will tell me if my changes work right? The color picker was messed on the x5 remote but it works now there. 20.27.06 # * jhMikeS has never used a sim for UI testing BTW 20.27.49 Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.30.08 # which filetypes does AA support? 20.30.12 # only bmp? 20.30.15 # or png, too? 20.30.27 # no, only bmp 20.31.05 # I need to write a script to pull all the covers out of my id3 tags. 20.31.10 # since thats the way media monkey stored them all. 20.33.17 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 20.35.29 Join bundy [0] (n=bundy@dslb-088-064-031-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.36.04 Nick bundy is now known as bunik (n=bundy@dslb-088-064-031-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.36.09 Nick bunik is now known as bundik (n=bundy@dslb-088-064-031-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.39.36 Join Kalthare [0] (n=kalthare@71.197.114.207) 20.41.47 # heya Kalthare. 20.41.49 # You're my hero. 20.42.18 # Hiya. Did you get your MBR fixed? 20.43.18 # No, I can't find my backup of my original mbr :( 20.43.44 # It seems to work fine, just reports the wrong amount of space left. 20.44.29 # Well, make sure you don't fill it close to 30G, and you should be fine. 20.44.37 # Any word on moving towards being able to copy to and from without mtools? 20.46.13 # Well, no. Rockbox still needs to be modified to support 2K sectors. 20.47.47 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 20.48.22 # * godzirra nods 20.48.28 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.48.34 # I know.. was just curious if any large steps were made towards that. 20.48.39 # I don't know enough C to help :/ 20.49.10 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-103.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.49.48 Join ender1 [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 20.49.49 # Well, I had a partial patch for it, but it hangs and I don't know why. 20.52.52 Quit ender` (Nick collision from services.) 20.52.52 Nick ender1 is now known as ender` (i=null@84.52.165.220) 20.53.48 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@88.80-202-254.nextgentel.com) 20.54.00 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.58.25 # So anyone know of any perl modules that will pull cover art from an id3 tag? 21.04.27 # Kalthare: The 2K sector patch cannot work in its current state 21.04.43 # amiconn: What'd I do wrong? 21.05.05 # You exceed the maximum ata transfer length (256 sectors) by a factor of 4 21.05.48 # amiconn: Thank you. That's what I was looking for. 21.06.49 # fat.c line 2044 ensures this for standard sectors, but your modified transfer() multiplies by 4 21.09.09 # amiconn: Okay, I found it. 21.09.41 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.11.01 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 21.12.24 Join lowlight [0] (i=187b2f62@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.12.44 Join mots_ [0] (n=mots@N154P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 21.14.36 # godzirra: try "eyed3" (python, not perl) there's a write-images option 21.15.25 # thanks I'll take a look 21.22.23 # kalthare, If you get a patch ready I can build and test on a 80Gb. 21.24.44 Join Moos [0] (i=51400b8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.25.00 # blueworm: I appreciate it. Right now I'm preparing my own iPod for testing. 21.26.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.26.38 Quit mots (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.27.55 # good luck 21.28.11 # yes, good luck 21.28.14 # * godzirra crosses his fingers. 21.31.14 Join mots [0] (n=mots@M2513P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 21.31.54 # could anyone here write me a bash script that resizes all files called folder.bmp to 75*75 (recursive, of course) 21.33.59 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@NONE-THREE-NINETY-FIVE.MIT.EDU) 21.36.07 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@zarathul.student.utwente.nl) 21.37.34 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 21.37.47 # nice topic :) 21.38.06 Quit sucka ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.39.00 # mots: if you have imagemagick install: find /my/music/folder -name folder.bmp -print | xargs -n 1 -- mogrify -scale 75x75 21.39.48 # ty 21.40.01 # mogrify overwrites the existing image 21.40.19 # thats exactly what i want it to do 21.40.40 # was just warning :) 21.40.45 # know 21.40.48 # >:O 21.41.06 # how about first copying them to image_big? 21.41.13 # or cover_big even 21.41.24 # could that be scripted, too? 21.42.39 Quit mots_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.43.42 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 21.44.00 # sneakums, guess you could help me 21.46.28 # or maybe lowlight? 21.46.38 # mots: I'm no bash exper, but this might work... for b in `find . -name folder.bmp`; do cp $b `dirname $b`/folder_big.bmp; mogrify -size 75x75 $b; done; 21.47.02 # yeah, dirname is the way to go 21.47.09 # although i'd do it like this: 21.48.31 # find /music -name folder.bmp -print | while read line; do mv $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp ; convert -scale 75x75 $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp ; done 21.48.46 # using for will break if there are spaces in the paths 21.49.16 # great, thx 21.49.37 # run it first with echo instead of mv and convert to make sure it's going to do the right thing 21.50.50 # mots@nonsense:~$ find ~/mugge -name folder.bmp -print | while read line; do echo $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp ; echo $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp ; done 21.51.00 # gives exactly no output 21.51.40 # Would anyone be able to help me with an assembly macro? It shouldn't be difficult for someone who knows what they are doing... 21.51.40 Quit Kalthare (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.19 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 21.52.44 # ~/mugge is your music directory? 21.52.48 # yeah 21.53.17 # What have I done wrong with http://pastebin.ca/198128? 21.54.43 Join Kalthare [0] (n=kalthare@71.197.114.207) 21.55.13 Part petur 21.55.24 # sneakums: guess it should do sth.? 21.55.43 # yeah, it should 21.56.00 # does 'find ~/mugge -name folder.bmp -print' list your cover images? 21.56.06 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.56.51 # nope 21.57.04 # what does 'echo ~/mugge' say? 21.57.06 # oh 21.57.09 # sorry 21.57.14 # wasn't your fault 21.57.22 # dan_a: compile or runtime problem (can't help you with the latter though, don't know arm asm)? 21.57.28 # i idiot forgot they were called cover.bmo 21.57.31 # *bmp 21.57.42 # heh 21.57.48 Quit barrywardell () 21.58.09 # Lear: Compile - but I think I've got it now... 21.58.12 # dan_a: tried without x as both input and output? 21.58.14 # :) 21.59.12 # Lear: It needs to be an input and an output - but actually referencing v helps... 21.59.47 # sneakums: still doesn't work 21.59.49 # :( 22.00.18 # mv: angegebenes Ziel âTracks]/cover_big.bmpâ ist kein Verzeichnis 22.00.18 # convert: unable to open image `[Bonus': No such file or directory. 22.00.24 # stuff like that 22.01.27 # mots: Do you know that the album art patch can resize bmp files for you as it loads them? 22.01.44 # well 22.01.50 # nope tbh 22.02.17 # i always heard, "if they're not the right size, they'll be ignored" 22.02.39 # so the size of the files doesn'T matter anymore? 22.03.12 # i've been saving mine as 256x256 so they'd scale nicely to 128x128 22.03.20 # great 22.03.45 # than i only need the copying part as i want to have computer-usable ones, too 22.04.02 Part lowlight 22.09.12 Join EspeonEfi [0] (i=espeonee@COMPTON-TWO-TWENTY-SIX.MIT.EDU) 22.09.32 # sneakums: could you take a quick look at that? 22.10.16 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea57c.e.strato-dslnet.de) 22.10.43 # mots: i think you need to put double quotes around all the $(dirname ...) calls 22.10.46 Quit lostnihilist (Remote closed the connection) 22.10.57 # mots: so change them to "$(dirname "$line")" 22.11.11 # * amiconn wonders what that strange asm macro should do 22.11.20 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-69-211-10-88.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 22.12.06 # It looks all screwed, and I can't imagine its purpose 22.12.18 # It is all screwed 22.12.20 Quit EspeonEfi (Client Quit) 22.12.42 # I'm working on atomic mutexes 22.13.42 # Okay, I think it's working now. amiconn's a hero. 22.14.04 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 22.14.27 # sneakums: find ~/mugge -name cover.bmp -print | while read line; do cp "$(dirname "$line")"/cover.bmp "$(dirname "$line")"/cover_big.bmp ; done ? 22.15.03 # yep, that's it 22.16.18 Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 22.17.58 # * amiconn is just a long-term rockbox fellow 22.18.37 # dan_a: Why do you call it TEST_AND_SET() ? 22.18.48 # The swp(b) instruction doesn't test anything 22.19.19 # It just reads a value from memory, and swaps it for another value, in an atomic way 22.21.19 Quit darkless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.21.20 # * amiconn also recommends using do { ... } while(0) for multi-statement macros 22.22.00 Quit EspeonEefi (Success) 22.22.37 # The instruction itsself doesn't, no. But if you do something like TEST_AND_SET(m->locked, true) in mutex_lock, it does test and set the value at the same time 22.23.17 # * dan_a looks for an example of a macro done the way amiconn suggests 22.23.23 # I accidentally left in a bunch of debugging output, so I'm recompiling. Once I've given it a proper test, I'll put a patch together. 22.23.35 Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.23.52 # dan_a: How would that be able to test the value? Your call example has only input parameters... 22.24.49 # Good point 22.25.00 # my hero 22.25.51 # btb how do i speak in 3rd person? 22.26.22 Join webguest35 [0] (i=4035f641@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.26.45 # blueworm, you type /me says something 22.26.53 Quit webguest35 (Client Quit) 22.26.53 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 22.27.14 # dan_a: If you want a return value, it might be better to use an inline function. 22.27.28 # * blueworm claps hands 22.27.47 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 22.27.52 # thanks dude. I'm irc n00b 22.29.14 Join webguest40 [0] (i=4035f641@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.29.38 # hello 22.31.18 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006100319]") 22.31.34 # dan_a: My suggestion is here: http://pastebin.ca/198186 22.34.00 # Then call that with oldval = test_and_set(&m->locked, true); 22.34.23 # amiconn: Thank you! 22.34.23 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 22.36.31 Quit mots (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.37.02 # hey...atomic code 22.37.19 # That looks much better when I look at the disassembly 22.37.54 # Okay, I'm making the patch now 22.37.56 # jhMikeS: Well, if there are going to be threads on different processors, we need atomic mutexs :) 22.38.15 # absolutely...would love to see rb be preemtive too 22.38.39 # * jhMikeS ducks 22.40.20 # dan_a: Things are on their way to that now anyway 22.42.03 # A preemptive kernel would create more problems than it woul dsolve 22.42.09 # i think i found a link where you can put wikipedia or ur ipod 22.42.30 # http://kalthare.freeshell.org/5.5-1.patch 22.43.19 # im seriously not even kidding 22.43.31 # what daily build does it patch against? todays or yesterdays? 22.44.01 # neither 22.44.06 # amiconn: I'm sure it would but they'd fun to solve...I hate that yield stuff 22.44.14 # hey how can make the text color black? 22.44.14 # Reminds me of windows 3.x 22.44.20 Join Ribs3 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 22.44.23 # blueworm: Actually, come to think of it, it patches against my week-old CVS pull... 22.44.30 # See if it applies anyway. 22.44.42 # ok 22.45.28 # * amiconn likes yield() 22.46.00 # This way the developer can decide when to interrupt the flow, instead of the kernel 22.46.15 Quit webguest40 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.46.19 # * dan_a likes a scheduler he can understand 22.46.44 # blueworm: Remember, after you run configure, you have to manually add "#define FAT_2K_SECTORS" to autoconf.h 22.46.57 # yield() surely does make multithreading easier 22.47.04 # ech 22.47.05 # With a preemptive kernel, we would need all sorts of integrity protection -> lots of overhead, and ugly 22.47.27 # yeah, we probably have a quarter of the mutexes we'd need if we didn't have yield 22.47.43 # I've always found programming preemptively much easier and more intuitive. no joke 22.47.59 # intuitive, perhaps, but easier, no 22.48.06 # Do you want to implement it? 22.48.20 # easier is one individual thing ;) 22.48.25 # * preglow is reminded how much he hates multithread programming 22.48.30 # easier for me...moos got it 22.49.00 # Kalthare it does not apply cleanly. :( 22.49.02 # I love multithreaded... 22.49.09 # * linuxstb_ has managed to avoid multi-threaded programming (apart from Rockbox) 22.49.17 # blueworm: Alright, I'll update and try and fix the patch 22.49.18 # * preglow hasn't :/ 22.49.20 Quit encode ("leaving") 22.49.31 # vengan threads (let the threads come) 22.49.31 # threading has bitten me often enough that i tend to avoid it 22.49.40 # thanks dude 22.50.16 # I find it pretty easy to imagine them running in my head...maybe I'm wierd :\ 22.50.46 # depends how many threads we're talking about 22.50.48 # * amiconn spots a weird thing in last night's commits :/ 22.50.55 # * preglow longs for languages better fitted to multi-threading 22.50.55 # 100s...doesn't matter 22.51.35 # * petur has no problems with multi-threading but would rather avoid it in embedded 22.51.45 # If you lock down but never up there's no danger 22.52.24 # Dithering on target... what a waste :/ 22.52.32 # So lock a->lock b or lock b but never lock b->lock a 22.52.39 # amiconn: why? 22.52.54 # Why dither on target when you can pre-dither the image? 22.53.07 # blueworm: ...I just applied the patch to rockbox-daily-20061011 and it went in fine, not even any fuzz. What's the problem you had? 22.53.21 # Many aren't pre dithered and it's pretty small 22.53.28 # I figure this'd be a pretty stable patch, since the files it modifies don't otherwise change much 22.53.39 # (apart from the fact that I don't really like dithering. It often looks even more ugly than banding) 22.54.14 # Put a gradient background on...24 to 16 is pretty subtle 22.54.16 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.54.44 # * amiconn doesn't use bitmaps in rockbox 22.54.58 # I only did it cause it was fairly tiny and maybe could be squeezed down some more at that 22.54.59 # Too wasteful, with no real benefit 22.55.22 # * jhMikeS likes eye candy 22.55.35 # stupid q: hey how can make the text color black? 22.55.38 # * petur agrees with amiconn 22.55.57 # jhMikeS: seen this thread? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6958.msg54169 (I only guess it has something to do with your changes) 22.56.00 # What's with all the miminalism? :P 22.56.30 # In some places I like eye candy too, but only if it outweighs the cost it comes at 22.56.36 # minimalism talk shouldn't surprise you around amiconn, gheh 22.56.41 # That's one reason why I also avoid dircache 22.57.03 # but yeah, i somewhat agree anyway 22.57.05 # pixelma: Now you see what happens when I'm stuck and have to wait to get an iRiver to get the uda working 22.57.38 # amiconn: a couple of hundrer kilobytes of ram outweighs instant browsing??? 22.57.47 # Yes 22.57.58 # well, if you don't browse... 22.58.11 # i go mad each time i reset my settings and forget dircache 22.58.13 # * Moos votes for Rockbox finabce one iriver to jhMikeS :) 22.58.14 # I listen to music far longer than I browse 22.58.19 # hmmm...colors inverted...indeed. Don't you just swap the bytes for RGB565SWAPPED? 22.58.30 # jhMikeS: hell no 22.58.30 Quit nls (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 22.58.38 # or... 22.58.50 # forget me 22.58.51 # Will the sim tell the story? 22.59.23 Quit Ribs2 (Success) 22.59.24 # anyway, i don't know if dithering is beneficial on screens the size we use 22.59.54 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FOUR-SEVENTY.MIT.EDU) 23.00.14 # preglow: Once the disk has spun up, there are no further delays. I don't see what's so bad about that. It's slightly annoying, but that's it 23.00.25 # amiconn: depends how you browse 23.00.34 # if you wait too long, it spins down again, and there you go 23.00.35 # more annoyance 23.00.48 # Furthermore I often use the Ondio which has no spinup delay, or the mini which only has a minimal spinup delay (500ms) 23.01.13 # The most annoying target (spinup-wise) is the X5 23.01.42 # yes, i don't exactly need dircache on my nano 23.01.47 # but on my h120 it's a straight out must 23.02.04 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 23.02.26 # For me, boot time on iriver is far more annoying than browse spinup delays are 23.02.41 # yes 23.02.43 # boot time really doesn't annoy me at all 23.03.12 # ...because you have to wait for the thing to be at least at the logo splash to press resume 23.03.16 # i don't need to wait for that, i just press on and it's going when it's ready 23.03.36 # amiconn, preglow: I think that the case here is that the feature exists for anyone who needs/wants it 23.03.36 # amiconn: why? mine spins in 240 ticks not > 300 23.03.42 # with disk spinup on browse, i have to just wait and look at the screen while it spins up 23.03.51 # Genre9mp3: well, sure... 23.03.54 # jhMikeS: yes the colours are inverted even in the sim (just tried it) 23.03.56 # jhMikeS: What model do you have? 23.03.59 # Genre9mp3: it's not like i'm trying to make in mandatory 23.04.02 # x5 23.04.21 # preglow: I use dircache, too on my H340 ;) 23.04.25 # I'm gonna try the sim myself and take care of it 23.05.01 # x5 60GB I mean 23.05.02 # * preglow is reading a paper about a fixed point spectrum analyzer method 23.05.38 # I guess it's got a torquey little motor 23.05.40 # jhMikeS: not really inverted but wrong... ;) 23.05.45 # Hmm, strange. SPinup time on my X5 varies quite a bit. Measured 2600ms right now, not longer than on archos. But somehow it feels longer... 23.06.32 # The proposed algorithm is patent pending. 23.06.42 # I know cause of watching it for the recording and it's pretty consistently between 240 and 250 23.06.43 # arghgh!! why do they even bother bloody publishing it 23.06.45 # assholers 23.07.21 # preglow: you look for anything DSP on the web and it's all patent this, patent that 23.07.40 # jhMikeS: not really, no 23.07.52 # but it seems to be a trend overall that dsp people don't like sharing 23.08.43 # preglow: why do I see so much then when searching? :\ 23.09.28 # jhMikeS: *shrug*, depends what you're searching for, i guess 23.10.57 Join charkins [0] (n=casey@pdpc/supporter/active/charkins) 23.11.22 Join Caliban [0] (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 23.11.44 # Kalthare how did you get it to patcg cleanly I got an error on line 18 disk.c 23.11.58 # anyhow I just finished patching by hand 23.12.03 # jhMikeS: swap16(color); ?? 23.12.05 Join ipodmini2g [0] (i=0c6b8d1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 23.12.13 # swap16 is a function... 23.12.21 # hello 23.12.27 # Do I still need to apply the ipod_fw.c patch? 23.12.56 # * linuxstb_ was just about to point out the swap16() function has a return value... 23.13.14 # Did Kalthare have any luck? 23.13.36 # I have noticed one little HD noise sometimes, skiping track,.... and the HD don't spin up, that's strange 23.13.38 # godzirra: Check the IRC logs... 23.14.05 # i'm trying to install rockbox on my ipod (2g mini) and i says "cannot open loader image file bootloader-mini2g.bin 23.14.09 # blueworm: I'm not patching line 18 in disk.c .... 23.14.15 # how do you get the context menu on the nano sim? 23.14.20 # jhMikeS: The dithering is rather costly the way it's coded, but not because of the dithering itself... 23.14.42 # you mean size wize? 23.14.51 # The only change to disk.c is at line 78 23.14.52 # Checking the same condition over and over within the innermost loop is surely inefficient 23.15.18 # yes but it complained about it. 23.15.51 # Is your tree clean? 23.15.56 # surely but speed wasn't really the issue for that as I saw it...wasn't thinking it'd be used like lcd_write_data 23.16.13 # I just untar'ed it 23.16.22 # where do i get bootloader-mini2g.bin? 23.16.34 # hmm 23.17.05 # Kalthare: so you're patch gets it to work without using mtools? Or am I confused as to the purpose. 23.17.13 # ipodmini2g: The install instructions should have a link to it. What instructions are you following? 23.17.37 # godzirra: Yeah, it's a patch to fix the actual problem. 23.17.47 # Nice! 23.17.54 Quit Siku () 23.17.56 # daily build 23.18.20 # the manual only had the mini1g.bin 23.19.13 # is it possible to make black fonts? 23.19.51 # ipodmini2g: That's a bug in the manual... Just replace "1g" with "2g" in the link. 23.20.05 # It seems to work, but I haven't tested it much yet. There's a lot of work yet to do, tho. 23.20.14 # Kitt0s:set the foreground color 23.20.19 # heh...that backdrop I tried looks a lot like something you'd see on acid 23.20.19 Quit SereR0kR () 23.20.20 # ok 23.20.48 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 23.20.55 # thanks 23.21.34 # yippi 23.21.56 Quit ipodmini2g ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.21.57 Join Eismann [0] (n=Gunnar@62.15.90.236) 23.22.19 # Kalthare: Is the patch posted somewhere? 23.22.25 Join ipodmini2gg [0] (i=0c6b8d1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1c67cdf4ba23eea8) 23.22.34 # godzirra: http://kalthare.freeshell.org/5.5-1.patch 23.22.36 # sorry, this is ipodmini still 23.22.43 # let's see if this worked... 23.23.02 # cross your fingers.... 23.23.53 # no way 23.23.58 # holy shit 23.24.14 # godzirra: If you use it, remember to add "#define FAT_2K_SECTORS" to autoconf.h after you run configure. 23.24.35 # how do i play music? 23.26.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.26.28 # If the sims are indeed acurate about the color swapping thing, then I guess I got stuff confused indeed 23.27.15 # ipodmini2gg: If you transferred it with itunes, you probably want to read the tagcache section in the manual. 23.27.31 # amiconn, jhMikeS: what is the coldstar detection for on the ATA driver front? 23.29.21 # blueworm: Sorry, I missed your question about ipod_fw.c. I've been loading the firmware in manually rather than using that -- you need that patched too, yes. I can't vouch for whether that patch works, as I haven't tried it. 23.29.32 Quit Rondom ("warum liegt hier eigentlich stroh rum?") 23.30.35 # it works for me 23.30.44 # although i still have that hang on the first read 23.31.30 # Kalthare: what directory do you apply the patch in? 23.31.34 # Kalthare: could you modify the ata_device_init in ata-pp5020.c to dump the result of the first inl? i'm wondering if there's some difference in the ATA hardware between the 30G and the 80G 23.32.03 # it makes no sense that there would be, but it's worth checking 23.32.32 # and i can't think of anything else i can check in the ata init 23.32.59 # I got the bootloader to buid, the main build is now compiling 23.33.00 # godzirra: The top level of the build tree, with -p 1 23.33.43 # sneakums: Maybe later. I'm a little busy right now. 23.34.22 # Oh -- in case it wasn't clear, if you've reformatted with 512-byte sectors for that hack I did, you need to reformat it again for 2048-byte sectors. 23.35.31 # Kalthare: no worries, i can't do anything with the information until this evening anyway 23.35.36 Quit charkins ("Leaving") 23.35.57 # or ever, since i don't know what i'm doing 23.37.46 Join darkskiez_ [0] (n=mbryars@bb-87-81-62-203.ukonline.co.uk) 23.38.32 # is ipodlinux any better than rockbox? 23.39.08 # ipodmini2gg: It's different. Not better or worse. 23.39.30 # no dice 23.39.53 # hmm, is it easier to use? 23.40.06 # do you like to use your ipod to play music? 23.40.38 # if so, then rockbox is better, no way to hide that fact 23.41.03 Part bundik ("Leaving") 23.41.23 # ipodlinux.org seems to have... problem 23.42.23 # kalthare do you add the broadcome firmware also? 23.43.41 # this is my first rockbox build. 23.43.46 # err. 23.43.50 # first time I've built rockbox I guess 23.44.08 # Hrm. Igot an error saying make[1]: *** [/home/shawn/rockbox/build-dir/librockbox.a] Error 127 23.45.13 # ./ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin -i apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin bootloader.bin does that look right? 23.45.22 # yup 23.45.58 # blueworm: I installed the bootloader manually. 23.46.09 # how? 23.46.31 # Kalthare: So I have the bootloader installed already... I just need to format the drive, copy my new build of rockbox on it (Assuming I can get it to compile) and I'm good to go? 23.46.59 Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") 23.47.49 # "dd if=bootloader/bootloader.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=2048 seek=10", then hexedit the header. I wrote a imple C program to calculate the checksum. 23.48.28 # I need to get an original copy of the mbr. :/ 23.48.33 # Mine is apparently gone. 23.48.33 # godzirra: Is it the official build bootloader, or patched? 23.48.38 # Ill try the bs=2048 seek10 part 23.48.50 # one sec 23.49.06 # blueworm: You need to adjust the header, too, or it won't boot. 23.49.10 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 23.49.39 # godzirra: Just fdisk it, delete partitions 2 and 3, and create a new FAT32 partition in the empty space. 23.49.55 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.50.10 # Well, I have to get it ti compile first. 23.50.17 # not sure what the error its g iving me is from 23.50.17 # would'nt it be easier for me to install an exact image of your /dev/sdx1 ? 23.50.29 # this line gives me the error: AR+RANLIB /home/shawn/rockbox/build-dir/librockbox.a 23.50.48 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 23.50.54 # godzirra: ...I'm pretty sure that isn't an error message. 23.51.01 # that's not an error 23.51.05 # blueworm: Okay, I'll put one up 23.51.06 # This is the actual error: make[1]: *** [/home/shawn/rockbox/build-dir/librockbox.a] Error 127 23.51.15 # thanks again 23.53.00 Quit ipodmini2gg ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.53.38 # godzirra: What is the first error you get? There should be at least one before that. 23.54.21 # nope 23.54.38 # CC drivers/lcd.S 23.54.38 # CC mp3_playback.c 23.54.38 # CC mp3data.c 23.54.40 # shit 23.54.43 # sorry 23.54.47 # Was trying to paste this: http://sial.org/pbot/20365 23.54.49 # which is a paste of it 23.55.08 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 23.55.26 # is your disk full or something? 23.56.46 Quit PierreTramo (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.57.01 Quit Eismann (Remote closed the connection) 23.57.28 # blueworm: http://kalthare.dyndns.org/fwpart.gz 23.58.39 # I just dd if=fwpart of=/dev/sdx1 ?? 23.58.56 # blueworm: Yeah.