--- Log for 17.10.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 10 hours ago 00.04.57 Quit midkay_ ("Leaving") 00.10.02 Join webguest37 [0] (i=54997076@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.10.06 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 00.11.37 # godzirra, you there? 00.11.38 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.18 # with ajr, unit on, charger plugged in and charging batteries, why won't it allow turning off, it says "unit charging" when off is selected 00.13.54 # maybe because the hardware would boot it again immediately because of the external power? At least that's why it's like that on iriver, don't know about archos 00.14.58 # strange that, a bit counter intuitive, 00.15.36 # I'm just guessing 00.15.53 # * petur looks at amiconn/Bagder/... 00.15.54 # uhuh, your guess is better than mine 00.18.42 # how good is the built in charger in the Recorder, will i need to cycle the batteries every now and then in an external charger ? 00.19.08 # I have no idea - don't have an archos 00.19.19 # amiconn, Bagder, Linus ^^ 00.19.57 Join alphakiller [0] (n=bits@200.162.22.132) 00.23.48 Quit ender` (" Programming is like sex becuse: 21. Sometimes it’s fun to use expensive toys.") 00.25.21 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.26.08 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 00.26.29 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 00.27.11 Part webguest37 00.27.20 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 00.32.22 Part RedKennedy 00.36.49 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.39.43 # is audio supposed to skip sometimes on ipod mini 1G? 00.39.52 # i'm talking APS mp3 00.42.12 # do you use any eq? 00.42.15 # crossfeed? 00.42.32 # no 00.43.10 # ipods are a bit pressed for cpu anyway, so it's not inconceivable that mp3s might skip at high bitrates 00.43.17 # but it hasn't happened to me for a long time 00.43.54 Join Brock [0] (n=Brock@cpe-65-28-252-205.woh.res.rr.com) 00.45.04 # hm 00.45.06 # pill: it often helps to use a wps without peakmeters 00.45.14 # i think enabling tag cache + directory cache 00.45.24 # made it overload 00.45.33 # yeah that too 00.45.42 # i switched to informal_ter 00.45.46 # so far no skip 00.45.52 # on the same track 00.45.55 # peakmeters are no-no on ipods 00.45.57 Quit ShadowdogMU (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.47.28 # Mikachu: you still into testing random playback related patches? 00.47.52 # well, i still have my weird buffer sizes 00.47.58 # sweet 00.48.06 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.48.07 # what problem are we fixing? 00.48.37 Quit pagefault (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.49.13 # well it relates to 5906 -- getting partial wrong-track output after resuming a song and then seeking backwards within it... but it may or may not fix that issue 00.49.25 # ah, that happens to me 00.49.26 # it should also more fully utilize the compressed audio buffer 00.49.50 # http://lostlogic.com/transfer/rockbox/remove_fill_bytesleft.diff 00.49.58 # 404 00.50.08 # pondlife said he got it to lostlogicx 00.50.08 # sorry 00.50.10 # gah 00.50.18 # change it to lostlogicx.com 00.50.19 # ah, missing x 00.50.28 # that's a nice macro 00.50.34 # and pondlife said that he was able to get it to go into a "filling forever state" 00.50.38 # I haven't found that state yet 00.50.52 Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) 00.50.54 # so if you get there and tell me how that is one of the useful things I'm interested in. 00.50.58 Quit pagefault (Client Quit) 00.51.07 Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) 00.51.20 # what would be characteristic of this state? 00.51.43 # success, patch applies 00.53.49 # hmm, the disk never goes to rest as the audio is playing and or audio starts to get effed up as the buffer overwrites itself 00.53.56 # bleh, wtf isn't it boosting when buffer is low? 00.54.03 # probably not related to the patch 00.54.17 # yeah, I didn't touch boost behavior today 00.55.26 # sigh, i really don't like this prio scheduler 00.56.38 # my jury is still out on it 00.57.12 # i didn't get skipping before, the only gain for me is the ui is useless 00.57.22 Quit charkins ("Leaving") 00.58.14 # in the meantime i boosted manually 00.58.19 # nod 00.59.49 # no luck, it seemed to crash when i tried to skip 01.00.15 # but that was without your patch 01.00.21 # i think something else is amiss 01.02.13 # uh oh 01.02.32 # well, I might have found the bug in my patch that pondlife was seeing, so I'll be posting an updated version soon 01.02.47 # i knew i shouldn't have cvs updated without backing up my tree first 01.03.02 # after a whole month or so 01.04.32 # ouch 01.04.33 # yeah 01.06.13 # petur likes to look at people 01.07.35 Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") 01.08.33 # it seems i found the correct lines to comment out to disable the scheduler... 01.08.43 # (just undefining it makes rockbox crash on startup) 01.09.24 # ps it is insane to make an os prioritize decoding over ui 01.09.57 # not for rb 01.10.10 # depends... this is a audio jukebox firmware... 01.10.20 # sure, i don't need to be able to actually use the interface while listening to music 01.10.25 # damn. it like doesn't return right or something. 01.10.53 # I've been wondering why the UI is sluggish even when nothing's playing.. 01.11.32 # Kalthare: that's just because ipod is still slow 01.11.35 # and we don't boost for UI 01.11.39 # commenting out that section magically makes skipping work better too 01.12.26 # lol 01.12.37 # * Mikachu is less grumpy again 01.13.34 # of course, it's easy for me to complain, the nano has the fastest ui :) 01.14.34 # Mikachu: you don't want to use my patch... seeking that should cause a rebuffer seems to cause a stoppage of playing instead. 01.14.48 # i sort of noticed that yeah 01.14.57 # pause and play seemed to restart it sometimes 01.15.03 # * lostlogic smacks it 01.15.11 # (actually logfs it to see wtf 01.15.15 Join RedKennedy [0] (n=red@cpe-24-198-185-151.maine.res.rr.com) 01.15.26 # i love how grep . without -r happily returns without actually grepping anything 01.15.33 # hehe :) 01.15.41 # * RedKennedy is wishing that BBE was an open source library. 01.15.54 # okay, HAVE_SCHEDULER_BOOSTCTRL looks like a prime suspect 01.15.56 # though i read on the iaudiophile forums that rockbox can make everything sound just as sexy 01.15.59 # any tips? 01.16.02 # Mikachu: for? 01.16.14 # for my not boosting 01.16.22 # i probably accidentally disabled it when merging new changes 01.16.23 # Mikachu: that's actually a change I kinda like... the boosting is still done manually 01.16.30 # ah yeah 01.16.50 # the only problem with the impl is that he made it a config.h variable but disabling it breaks the feature instead of switching back to normal 01.17.13 # maybe that explains my crashes though..., we'll see 01.17.31 # RedKennedy: rockbox doesn't do anything fancy to the sound 01.17.47 # RedKennedy: unless you count basic stereo stuff, eq and crossfeed 01.18.12 # ah yes, enabling that crashes on startup 01.18.21 # preglow: well, i gathered that, but is there any way to manipulate said eq effects to get a bbe-ish sound? 01.18.45 # that means i can disable prio sched completely... 01.19.57 # RedKennedy: what does bbe do, then? 01.20.07 # i've never bumped into it 01.20.39 # bleh, they removed the boost code from the playback code completely 01.20.55 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 01.20.55 # way to add an ifdef :) 01.21.08 # not much point if you remove the #else case 01.22.13 Quit lodesi ("leaving") 01.23.09 # how does the scheduler unboosting work? 01.23.13 # that is, when does it unboost? 01.23.25 # preglow: it sort of spreads the sound out, and makes everything more full, highlighting various things...doesn't do much bass-wise...but it can make recordings from the 60's sound like modern day studio sessions 01.23.26 # the cpu? 01.23.33 # oops, i read "what" 01.23.39 # preglow: it unboosts when the cpu gets 'slept' 01.23.51 # preglow: there's also mach3bass, which is part of bbe, and enhances the low end without causing any distortion 01.24.32 # which means that it doesn't immediately unboost all the time when the buffer gets full, because just because the codec thread sleeps for 1s/hz doesn't mean that all threads are asleep for that length 01.24.46 # RedKennedy: crossfeed does something like that, but i bet it's not as fancy 01.24.55 # Isn't mach3bass what iAudio uses...been so long since OF that I can't recall but it sounds familiar. 01.25.13 # hooray, the changes revert without conflicts = fixed 01.25.17 Join pacousuario [0] (n=hidden@96.Red-83-58-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) 01.25.20 # now i am never going to cvs update again :P 01.25.56 # jhMikeS: yes. i'm a proud iAudio user. :^) 01.26.04 # i could also try to find out why it reboots to the sad ipod when i enable boostctrl... but not today 01.26.07 # lostlogic: sounds like it just ate whatever battery savings we got from the scheduler in the first place, then 01.27.02 # just make the decoded audio buffer larger = fixed skips 01.27.03 Quit pagefault (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.28.21 # preglow: wouldn't surprise me... I kinda think that what we need to do instead is to have per-thread boost states in a bitmap so that when a thread boosts, it sets the bit and when that same thread sleeps it unsets the bit and if the bitmap is now zero, the cpu unboosts (if we're going to do offer 'automatic' unboosting, which seems a good idea) 01.29.01 Part pacousuario 01.29.54 Join Byron [0] (i=Byron@69.44.27.66) 01.29.55 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.29.56 # yeah, the more I think about it, per-thread auto-unboost sounds kinda slick 01.30.06 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.172.223) 01.30.23 # I have an ondio, and I'm having some problems with it, the thing doesn't seem to turn on unless I blow into the card slot... any ideas? 01.30.57 # * Byron gives his ondio mouth the slot recesitation 01.31.28 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 01.31.46 # i have one question, how did you come up with that solution? 01.31.58 # what, me? 01.32.03 # no byron 01.32.08 # laugh 01.32.19 # lostlogic: definitely sounds more foolproof 01.33.18 # I wonder how big of a task it would be to replace all boosting in the system with that style. 01.33.23 # I don't know, I just decided to take the card out when I couldn't get it to turn on and it came up when I took the card out, then that trick stopped working so I blew into the slot and that worked 01.33.42 # * lostlogic hates two ways to do things 01.34.07 # lostlogic: #define boost() 01.34.23 # could there be a bad solder connection that isen't being made that is ingnited when I blow into the slot 01.35.10 Quit xamphear () 01.37.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.38.55 # is there any where I can send broken Archos' too and have them repaired 01.39.19 # I've also got a Jukebox Recorder 20 that makes loud screachy noises 01.51.22 Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) 01.54.35 Quit PaulJam (".") 01.56.47 Quit alphakiller () 01.57.01 Join Febs [0] (n=shortcho@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.58.30 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 02.11.00 Quit pagefault (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.17.12 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 02.17.45 Join webguest11 [0] (i=54997076@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 02.19.18 # i have a studio that wont turn on, the HD goes clack-clack-clack repeatedly, but I can plug it into my pc and read the HD, any ideas on how to get it past the clack-clack phase 02.22.14 Quit webguest11 (Client Quit) 02.22.37 # my damn h300 wont die! 02.22.46 # its been gong for 12 hours now 02.22.54 # and its been @ 10% for the last hour 02.26.13 Quit Rondom ("bbl") 02.36.08 Join Chronon [0] (i=Chronon@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 02.37.07 Quit Chronon (Client Quit) 02.44.27 Join dan_a_afk [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 02.46.40 Quit barrywardell () 02.55.50 Quit dan_a_afk (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 02.59.02 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEE58B.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.01.35 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 03.07.36 # nice 03.14.23 # anyone creative here? 03.14.29 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 03.14.30 Nick Brock is now known as ShadowdogMU (n=Brock@cpe-65-28-252-205.woh.res.rr.com) 03.15.51 # hmm... where the heck is paul_the_nerd?! 03.16.21 # is there any where I can send broken Archos' too and have them repaired 03.16.25 # I've also got a Jukebox Recorder 20 that makes loud screachy noises 03.17.30 Quit Davide-NYC (Client Quit) 03.22.41 Part waszi 03.35.03 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 03.37.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.39.40 Part pixelma 03.48.05 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 04.28.54 Join Soap_OutOfTown [0] (i=463d19f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 04.34.44 Quit rinat ("leaving") 04.40.43 Join xreel [0] (n=xreel@pool-71-113-146-49.frstil.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.49.30 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.55.36 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 05.00.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.07.29 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB0DAD2.ipt.aol.com) 05.18.37 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.19.00 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.19.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.24.15 Join Bossier [0] (i=nunya@66.112.107.102.dyn.centurytel.net) 05.24.48 # hello 05.35.11 Join GFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-155-1-100-96.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) 05.38.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.40.17 # gah, stupid rebuffer_and_seek bug. 05.40.44 Part jhMikeS 05.40.44 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-160-54.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 05.40.47 Part jhMikeS 05.43.19 Quit Kitt0s (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 05.47.12 # patch needs testing: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6199 05.47.47 # this is an updated one? 05.47.52 # Mikachu: yes 05.47.56 Quit GreyFoux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.48.21 # Mikachu: this needs some more significant abuse, because some other refactoring snuck in accidentally... but it actually does fix the issue in 5906 afaics now. 05.48.28 # (I _found_ the cause, so...) 05.48.30 Quit xreel ("ircII EPIC4-2.2 -- Are we there yet?") 05.51.27 # just need to modify it a bit since it managed to found a cpu boost line :) 05.51.55 # laugh *nod* 05.52.27 # there 05.52.29 # my next patch will be to work on that improved auto-un-boost feature I talked about which should work w/o priority scheduler 05.52.42 # but that won't be until ... ... probably a week or two :( stupid busy. 05.52.49 # as long as it doesn't crash on startup i'll be happy 05.52.59 # heh 05.56.17 # i was almost going to say it doesn't work, then i realized pressing prev just jumps to the beginning of the current track 06.01.19 # initial seeking and skipping like crazing didn't turn anything up 06.03.26 # i have a stupid question, I'm wanting to download an older build of rockbox. just installed cvs and am able to get the current source, i just need to know how to get older sources 06.03.52 # you can use the -D switch to get sources from a specific date 06.04.02 # cvs update -D "2006-05-30" 06.04.03 # or 06.04.07 # cvs update -D "3 months ago" 06.04.16 # then cvs update -A to go back to now 06.05.06 # thanks, i saw there was a rockboy patch for ipod grayscales, couldn't get it to take on the current build so i thought i'd download a build from around when that patch was made 06.06.40 # lostlogic: when you say long tracks, in what sense do you mean, filling the codec buffer or filling the pcm buffer? 06.10.04 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 06.10.21 # Mikachu: long = larger than the compressed audio buffer in this case 06.10.35 # okay, that would be any track for me then 06.12.00 # mm 06.12.05 # good 06.12.16 # Paul_the_Nerd: I ... wrote code 06.12.20 # how's it goin'? 06.12.38 # Whoaaa 06.12.46 # i am glad you are back btw 06.12.49 # :) 06.12.59 Join chendo_ [0] (n=chendo@203-206-126-193.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.13.32 # Mikachu: thanks 06.14.20 # Paul_the_Nerd: I took out all the code that writes to .playlist_control and now it doesn't crash at all. Even if I rebuild the tag cache while music is playing. 06.15.05 # Kalthare: So it's some evil combination, rather than just writing during playback? 06.15.11 # lostlogic: It is great to see you around here again 06.16.00 # Paul_the_Nerd: Seems so. Incidentally, I was surprised to discover that one of the functions uses the MP3 buffer for its own nefarious purposes.. 06.16.30 # Kalthare: Oh? 06.17.04 # what do the * and B (and possibly other things) in the thread debug screen mean? 06.17.09 # I haven't really investigated how or why, or if it's even related. But it kinda stood out. 06.17.52 # It's at least a place to start looking 06.18.26 # Certainly. 06.19.15 Quit besonen_mobile_ (Connection timed out) 06.20.16 # hmm... I wonder if it would be a bad thing to use up another bit of the thread state. 06.20.30 # lostlogic: i tried the case in 5906 (once), seeking to the very beginning, to the very end, near the ends etc, even tried seeking while paused and it works fine so far 06.20.42 # Mikachu: great thanks! 06.20.57 # I'll see if Slasheri or pondlife have anything against it tomorrow before committing (and causing you conflicts ;)) 06.21.05 # heh 06.21.10 # i will manage 06.21.50 # set a-b points 3 seconds apart 06.21.53 # seems to work 06.21.54 # incredible 06.22.08 # oops 06.22.30 # well, it sounds the same, but i'm not sure if the progress bar knows wth it's doing 06.24.54 # good night 06.26.08 Quit chendo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.27.32 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-169-210.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 06.44.43 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 06.48.31 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 06.50.08 Nick GFoux is now known as nGs|GreyFox`afk (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-155-1-100-96.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) 06.52.27 Part Byron 06.56.41 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.57.10 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 06.58.15 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.59.29 # did some1 buzz me before? 07.00.22 # not I 07.05.23 Quit Bossier ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 07.06.29 # Kalthare: Sorry, whats up? 07.07.06 # hey Paul_the_Nerd, i got 13hours before i gave u because i needed to charge it for the day 07.07.50 # So definitely at least reasonable 07.08.02 # ye 07.10.49 Join Optim0 [0] (n=Oqtimo@69-167-205-34.atlsfl.adelphia.net) 07.12.16 Join Quazgaa [0] (i=quaz@m209.telcomplus.net) 07.18.08 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.19.22 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.20.30 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 07.31.39 Part Paul_the_Nerd 07.34.58 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 07.38.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.43.18 Join mordov|harldywor [0] (n=mordov@mail.furuno.no) 07.44.35 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") 07.49.52 Quit blueworm ("Leaving") 07.51.01 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-36-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 07.52.33 Join Teknomancer [0] (n=Teknoman@125.22.145.219) 07.54.28 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.57.11 Quit Optim0 (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.58.02 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 08.07.55 Join mihalis [0] (i=mihalis@c-71-204-191-163.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) 08.08.21 # help! i have a major problem with rockbox on my ipod (which is practically brand new) 08.08.44 # yay!' 08.09.11 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 08.09.11 # i don't know what happened, but it seems as though a bunch of my files (mp3s and such) are suddenly gone, and a bunch of files that are named with gibberish appeared in their place 08.09.28 # in addition, when i try to delete them, it says "cannot read from source disk" 08.10.07 # i figured i would just delete everything and copy it back over, as (of course) i have been backing up my mp3s) 08.10.21 # but it wont let me delete... 08.10.38 # i have no clue how this happened. 08.10.51 # any ideas? 08.11.29 # there are files with names like ¦¯=¯X¦+/.S¿o 08.14.05 Join mitt3r [0] (n=horse@S010600e018a1a775.ok.shawcable.net) 08.15.02 # * mihalis has about given up on both rockbox and ipod.. 08.15.09 # hmm 08.15.17 # what have you done? 08.15.42 Nick Rob2222_ is now known as Rob2222 (n=Miranda@ACB0DAD2.ipt.aol.com) 08.15.48 # dont know... just turned it on, all of my settings seemed to be cleared, and my fonts folder was one of the ones renamed to gibberish 08.15.56 # among several mp3 folders 08.16.25 # you connected the player to a pc and scanned the disc? 08.16.33 # i kind of wonder if its the drive really, but as for how ive cared for it, ive babied it... its in a case within a case.. 08.16.40 # scanned the disk w/ what? 08.16.57 # you use windows? 08.17.03 # yes 08.17.21 # chkdsk h: /f 08.17.27 # oh you mean like chkdisk or something 08.17.31 # where h: is the letter of you ipod 08.17.35 # yes 08.17.38 # Output is 260 bytes larger than max (233456) 08.17.38 # removing UCL file again, making it a fake one 08.17.39 # k... ill try that 08.17.50 # lostlogic: patch #6199 seems good here 08.17.56 # i guess Archos recorder cannot have a rombox build now? 08.18.04 # yes :( 08.18.16 # For now :( 08.18.19 # ok 08.18.42 # LOTS of invalid time stamps, and "entries that will be truncated"... 08.19.30 # mihalis: You have a backup of the files? 08.20.04 # lini: You could use a build from 2006-10-15 or earlier, which has rombox, but then you won't have the pitch screen (which was missing for recorder v1 and v2 for a few weeks) 08.21.16 # yes i saw the CVS log 08.21.27 # i always backup my stuff 08.21.43 # i am using an older build right now (10-09 i think) since it leaves more free RAM 08.21.47 # mihalis: OK, fine :) 08.21.52 # its just that it sucks having to copy everything over again... it was well over 30 gigs 08.22.10 # takes a couple hours to do... 08.22.22 # mihalis: Well, rockbox is still in development for ipod 08.22.44 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.23.12 # yah... i guess i learned about the bugs the hard way, but then again... i think it might be because its an apple product, which, of course, sucks. 08.23.23 # lol 08.23.37 # hell, in the 80s even commodore was better than apple 08.23.40 Quit nave7693 ("Leaving.") 08.23.47 # well, normally there doesnt occure bug that cause data loss 08.23.59 # yah thats why i think its the drive 08.24.27 # what was your last steps with the unit before the bug occured? 08.24.35 # -bug+problem 08.24.38 # :) 08.24.39 # rockbox on my iRiver has been quite good though, though i have a really old version 08.24.40 # and im certainly not going to rush out and exchange it for another ipod... ill be getting a different product entirely... thank goodnes i got the warranty protection 08.24.54 # is iriver better than ipod? 08.25.06 # jejeje :) (at least imho) 08.25.13 # but ipods are smaller 08.25.28 # ive heard alot about it... small isnt my concern... quality built is more important 08.25.42 # anyone know much about the sandisk series? 08.25.52 # mihalis http://misticriver.net for all your iRiver queries :) since there are a lot of different models 08.25.55 # i dont want something that will crash and have regular data loss 08.26.12 # I love the iRiver H300. I pimped my HD and my battery yet and everything is running fine 08.26.15 # i've been having iRiver H340 for a few months and so far no problems 08.26.44 # mihalis: Well, just give your unit a 2nd chance 08.26.49 # and what i LOVE about my H300 the most is that it's just a simple FAT32 that works out-of-the-box for almost all OSs including BeOS, Linux, Windows 08.26.59 # no special software needed to transfer stuff etc 08.27.13 # hehe yes, its recognized as USB mass storage 08.27.21 # Rob2222 its critical for me 08.27.25 # as i'm not a windows user 08.27.30 # nor a Mac user 08.27.44 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-36-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 08.28.03 # yes 08.28.27 # i'm listening to my iRiver right now :) but not on Rockbox :D 08.28.36 Part nave7693 08.28.50 # anyone know if rockbox is planning something for the sandisk series? 08.29.15 # Well, once I damaged my file structure while trying to move files with the rockbox rename function. Copy and past wasnt implemented that time. 08.29.33 # but that was the only data-loss related problem i had 08.30.05 # ok chkdsk managed to delete all the gibberish files, but the old folders didnt come back... in addition, the space they occupied still seems to be occupied, and no recycle bin was made 08.30.33 # hmm 08.30.53 # if nothing helps, reformat it 08.31.06 # ive had that problem with other drives in the past... usually right before they bit the dust... and this one is only about a month old 08.31.43 # maybe you dl "hdtune" and scan the disc 08.31.57 # a surface scan 08.32.11 # or chkdsk h: /f/r 08.32.21 # but this takes a while 08.32.35 # and maybe it reports a disc problem then 08.32.52 # i think im just going to return it... 08.33.04 # if i have to do all this, i might as well do it with a new device. 08.33.12 # thanks, though 08.33.48 # mitt3r: http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-sandisk-connection.html 08.33.58 # thx 08.34.33 # Hrrm! Why does the debug menu no longer allow to set the CPU frequency to idle? 08.36.10 # Slasheri? 08.36.38 # hmm, i haven't touched that 08.37.22 Quit Teknomancer ("Vision[1.2.0-Z-12102006]: i've been blurred!") 08.38.15 # it's pondlife 08.39.15 # he changed the functionality to "unboost all" 08.39.26 # just looked at the code 08.40.02 Join Teknomancer [0] (n=Teknoman@125.22.145.219) 08.41.51 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 08.42.20 Quit mihalis () 08.43.45 Join dan_a_afk [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 08.43.47 # Oops, sorry 08.44.07 # I thought idle was automatic once you were back at boost level 0 08.44.32 # nope 08.44.40 # OK, me learny 08.44.42 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 08.44.45 # We have 3 frequencies, idle, normal and boosted 08.45.07 # cpu_boost() usually switches between normal and boosted 08.45.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DynamicCPUFrequency 08.45.47 # pondlife: maybe you can update that page with the new API 08.45.52 # The idle frequency is selected (with a separate function) only if there's really very little to do, e.g. during radio or USB mode 08.46.15 # LinusN: The API hasn't changed, has it? 08.46.26 # But for some tests its very convenient to be able to select idle freqency manually 08.46.43 # what is boost? i'm hearing it all the time .. 08.46.43 # pondlife: i see lots of calls to a function called cpu_boost_id() 08.46.49 # Ah 08.46.49 # some c++ library for ? 08.47.01 # That will be going shortly. 08.47.06 # Btw, now USB in rockbox never works for me in rockbox. Have to use cowon bootloader USB everytime 08.47.10 # Teknomancer: it's when we change the CPU frequency to the maximum 08.47.20 # I needed the IDs while playback.c had 3 different boost causes. They have now gone 08.47.31 # So __FILE__ will do that automatically instead 08.47.41 # Assuming GCC always supports that. 08.47.46 # it does 08.47.47 # On X5, that is 08.47.52 # pondlife: even __FUNCTION__ 08.48.06 # pondlife: then maybe we could remove the cpu_boost_id() function? 08.48.06 # Thanks, I didn't know about that one 08.48.09 # Yes 08.48.16 # amiconn: interesting 08.48.18 # It will be #defined out 08.48.35 # USB logo appears, but I don't get a connection 08.48.35 # So I'll keep my tracking and it'll be automatic 08.48.40 # LinusN ah okay 08.48.50 # amiconn: so it's probably a missing ack somewhere 08.49.07 # So what did I change in the boost screen? Did I remove a cpu_idle_mode call? If so that was unintentional. 08.49.24 # NM, I'll check 08.49.30 # pondlife: well, you removed an explicit set_cpu_frequency() call 08.49.35 # Ah 08.49.51 # I would think it better if those aren't used by the UI, if possible. 08.49.58 # The API should just be as per the wiki 08.50.12 # Well, the debug menu is the debug menu 08.50.16 # exactly 08.50.17 Quit mitt3r () 08.50.52 # LinusN: Strangely, USB mode works on iriver 08.51.00 # hmmm 08.51.10 # Can't test on H300 because battery is flat, but on H140 it works 08.51.27 # USB works 100% for me on H300 (apart from bootloader which is 0%) 08.52.28 # ...even with menu & folder voicing enabled (so it's not what I suspected first) 08.53.14 # OK, so why should a call to set_cpu_frequency(CPUFREQ_DEFAULT) allow idle, but boosting down to level 0 not? Or am I still misunderstanding (it's early here) 08.53.33 # The latter... 08.53.47 # Boosting down to 0 goes to CPUFRE_NORMAL 08.53.50 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 08.53.56 # Ah, DEFAULT <> NORMAL!! 08.53.59 # Gotcha 08.54.06 # DEFAULT = NORMAL or IDLE? 08.54.13 # DEFAULT == idle 08.54.30 # Right. Why not CPUFREQ_IDLE then? 08.54.45 # I think I'd have read that correctly. 08.55.09 # It's the default frequency of the CPU when the PLL isn't enabled (yet) 08.56.01 # OK, I've restored that in my upcoming patch. 08.59.26 # pondlife: don't you have cvs commit access? 09.00.02 # Yes, but I also have a modified debug_menu.c here. I could just fix it, but am almost ready to scrap cpu_boost_id anyways 09.00.30 # * pondlife wonders how big an atom is 09.00.33 # ok 09.00.55 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 09.00.59 # Nah, you convinced me.. Quick fix coming sooner 09.01.01 Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) 09.04.31 Join anrdewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-135-3.TAS.netspace.net.au) 09.04.39 # Hi 09.04.57 # hey anrdewmel 09.05.20 # i am trying to download the vmware file from here 09.05.30 # http://download.rockbox.org/vmware/Debian-2.7z 09.05.46 # but it isnt coming down, and I am wondering if it is me, or the server? 09.06.00 # all else on the internet seems fine..... 09.06.14 # anrdewmel: works for me 09.07.00 # just tried it again, no response 09.07.04 # odd 09.07.25 # working here 09.07.38 # must be the l0ser filter 09.07.44 # :) 09.08.00 # Nope, I can get it 09.08.03 # So not that 09.08.04 # lol 09.08.08 # hahaha 09.08.08 # * Bagder giggles 09.08.26 # just tried pinging rockbox.org and i did miss a couple of packets 09.08.52 # rockbox.org is a different server on a different network 09.09.05 # but working again now, as is download.rockbox.org 09.09.29 # Bagder: Did you see my question from last night? 09.09.37 # no 09.11.59 # hmmm, I can get a directory listing of download.rockbox.org/vmware/ 09.12.16 # but when I click on Debian-2.7z it hangs 09.15.40 # http://mikachu.ath.cx/Debian-2.7z 09.15.45 # it's a mirror 09.15.55 # 10mbit 09.16.08 # thanks vr, coming down now. 09.16.33 Join nick89 [0] (n=nick89@c210-49-99-250.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au) 09.19.46 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FOUR-EIGHTY-SIX.MIT.EDU) 09.20.15 # anrdewmel: thx Mikachu for the mirror ;) 09.23.01 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 09.23.19 # Bagder: What does the build master do within the ~4 minutes after the distributed build itself ended? 09.23.41 # Within that time, a new build doesn't start when there was a commit, it's delayed 09.24.33 # nothing 09.24.44 # it waits for the threads and then finishes 09.25.16 # then wait for 60 seconds and checks for cvs changes 09.25.25 # over and over 09.25.30 # From http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/dbg-2006-10-16%2018:27:16.log : 09.25.31 # 292 buildtime = 292 292292 09.25.31 # 292 mv dbglog "output/dbg-2006-10-16 18:27:16.log" 09.25.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn 09.25.31 # 488 all done. 09.25.55 # I wonder about the difference between 292 and 488 09.26.25 # it shows the host being pretty loaded at the time 09.26.38 # 3 minutes? 09.26.39 # it builds the table, it builds a source archive 09.26.53 # obviously, yes 09.27.15 # The table is already built at that time, at least that's what I observed 09.27.29 # not really 09.27.37 # it is the first thing built after the 292 time stamp 09.27.53 # then it runs the tools/release script 09.27.58 # ah 09.28.18 # Couldn't the source archive packaging run in parallel with the distributed builds? 09.28.19 # and that seems to have run very slow at this time 09.28.26 # yes it could 09.29.22 # but in normal circumstances it shouldn't be this noticable 09.30.02 # It's often very noticeable 09.30.17 # Look at the 2 latest rows on http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml 09.30.31 # Bagder: just letting you know ive reformatted my computer again, and havnt set up the rbclient account yet, hopefully this doesnt afect the builds at all 09.30.35 # anrdewmel: Just for information, the VMware dev platform woks well on qemu ;) 09.30.49 # JdGordon: it'll just keep trying your host... 09.31.06 # Time difference between the 2 builds was 15 minutes although the build itself only takes ~7 minutes and I committed my change while the first buid still ran 09.31.49 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.31.49 # * amiconn wonders why JdGordon reformats that often 09.32.08 # coz im a format-aphiliac.. duh! 09.34.56 Topic "uncle Rockbox have use for YOUR superfast build server!" by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.35.14 # have use? 09.35.29 # me and my crappy language 09.35.35 # oh ok 09.35.48 # :-) 09.36.18 # but I do think you can say so 09.36.36 # or maybe I'm just too low on coffee 09.36.54 # * Bagder heads for a refill 09.37.08 # * pondlife wants tea ,white, no sugar 09.37.24 # Actually make that needs tea 09.37.45 # * petur suddenly remembers he left his tea at home :( 09.37.57 # * pondlife e-mails petur some tea 09.38.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.38.13 # Can't let a chap die of thirst now. 09.38.18 # * petur prints email, shreds paper and tries to make tea of it 09.38.29 # Mmm, infusion of inkjet 09.39.07 # * pondlife is glad his e-mail included a large magenta square 09.39.31 # * petur notes the printer was a b&w laser 09.39.41 # urgh, toner :( 09.39.51 # Cough splutter hack 09.40.09 # better order some lapsang toner 09.40.25 # Anyway, maybe one for Bagder: what type would __FUNCTION__ be best represented as. It doesn't seem to like char * 09.40.36 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 09.40.59 # "discards qualifiers from pointer target type" 09.41.02 # const! 09.43.14 # correct 09.43.42 Quit myzar (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.43.58 # Hmm, do we not have strstr? 09.44.01 # strcasestr? 09.46.23 # would anyone mind if we stopped shipping the .tar.gz version of the source and only did the tar.bz2 ? 09.46.38 # how do the windows tool deal with that? 09.46.44 # Bagder not me 09.46.44 # tools 09.47.04 # * petur checks 09.47.07 # 7-zip handles it just fine, as far as I'm aware, and that's rather widely available for windows 09.47.10 # u mean windows apps that handle bz2 ? WinRAR is capable of opening bz2 i think .. 09.47.18 # Paul_the_Nerd its free too right ?? 09.47.23 # Indeed 09.47.33 # More free than WinRAR 09.47.36 # then shouldn't be a problem if we release just bz2 09.47.43 # we can also point them to 7-zip site ;) 09.47.49 # i think anybody wanting sources probably just uses anonymous cvs instead 09.47.55 # Since 7-zip is LGPL if I recall 09.48.08 # Slasheri: It's surprising how many people download the source archive, actually. 09.48.13 # And then reapply all their patches. 09.48.19 # hmm, interesting.. 09.49.24 # ok, so no more .tar.gz of the sources 09.54.28 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.55.14 # the size difference is qute significant: 09.55.22 # 6936571 vs 8865853 09.55.39 # this morning's package 09.56.54 # hahaha 09.57.04 # I love the stupid wiki spammers 09.57.14 # Hmm? 09.57.24 # filing spam in the comment, already before having been granted writer permission 09.58.19 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-78-72.dynamic.qsc.de) 09.58.38 # I wonder if that file attachment in WebHome is a twiki bug 09.59.01 # it appears a new attachment there every now and then 09.59.49 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 09.59.54 Join cherubiel [0] (n=cherubie@unaffiliated/cherubiel) 09.59.55 Quit dan_a_afk (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10.05.22 Quit anrdewmel ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 10.06.55 Quit crashd ("leaving") 10.12.31 # Bagder: with 7zip 6204974 vs 6936571 from tar.bz2 10.12.44 # yeah, but 7zip is not very widely used 10.12.57 # so I hesitate to go there 10.13.09 Nick daurnimator is now known as daurnimator|afk (n=nquae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 10.14.27 Join crashd [0] (i=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 10.16.07 Quit daurnimator|afk (Client Quit) 10.19.38 # I have to admit, I haven't yet quite become comfortable with extracting 7zips at the command line. 10.20.15 # me neither 10.20.26 # but I blame their choice of command line options partly 10.20.36 # not much different from extracting a rar file at the command line 10.21.05 # ... and I certainly don't like rar ;-) 10.21.14 # ;) 10.21.14 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.22.05 Quit crashd ("leaving") 10.22.08 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 10.22.35 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host1-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 10.24.29 Join dan_a_afk [0] (n=dan-mirc@wormhole.domicilium.com) 10.26.03 Join myzar [0] (i=derelict@cpe-72-129-81-32.socal.res.rr.com) 10.32.43 # \o\ 10.32.44 # /o/ 10.33.00 Join munkay [0] (n=cherubie@unaffiliated/cherubiel) 10.36.34 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 10.37.28 Quit cherubiel (Nick collision from services.) 10.37.36 Nick munkay is now known as cherubiel (n=cherubie@unaffiliated/cherubiel) 10.42.17 Nick dan_a_afk is now known as dan_a (n=dan-mirc@wormhole.domicilium.com) 10.44.23 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 10.48.48 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.49.23 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.50.41 Part Paul_the_Nerd 10.58.37 Join Nimdae [0] (n=nimmeh@71-11-210-76.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 10.59.37 Join gyaresu [0] (n=gyaresu@124.243.140.29) 10.59.43 Quit dark ("changing servers") 11.00.33 Join dark [0] (i=deviled_@microsoft.gotrooted.com) 11.01.55 Quit gyaresu (Client Quit) 11.03.37 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p548483E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.10.05 Quit Quazgaa ("leaving") 11.21.39 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 11.21.55 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 11.23.56 # Bagder: Filzip (another freeware zip tool for windows) doesn't handle bzip2. But since you need a unix-like dev environment anyway (cygwin, vmware etc) I don't think that's a problem 11.24.25 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 11.26.52 # Well, with Replaygain, Crossfeed and 5 bands of equalizer while viewing the audio thread on a 128kbps MP3 it seems to just *barely* break even. 100% boost, but the PCM buffer seems to be averaging out at not moving up or down. 11.27.23 # This is with the dual core patch, btw. 11.27.25 # On a Nano 11.27.45 # Paul_the_Nerd: How does it cope without the patch? 11.30.09 # dan_a: Can I safely use a normal build without the patch, or do I need to use a normal bootloader too? 11.31.32 # Though I did just get the "whitenoise bug" I think. 11.31.40 # But that's unrelated to the patch. 11.32.29 # You can use a normal build as long as it's later than CVS 2006-08-04, IIRC (whenever I commited the bootloader change to CVS) 11.32.43 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 11.33.10 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host1-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 11.34.03 # dan_a: Okay, I'll test momentarily then 11.37.35 # dan_a: Seems to be almost exactly the same. 11.38.06 Quit blueworm (Remote closed the connection) 11.38.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.39.14 # So the dual core patch seems to be doing something, but not working properly. My current theory (based on what I've seen and what people have said) is that all threads are being run on both cores 11.39.28 # I'll try something to test that later. 11.40.02 # At least playback works. 11.43.22 Quit nick89 ("Gotta Go") 11.43.57 # dan_a: Interestingly, my boost counter is ridiculously high. 11.44.11 # dan_a: While running your patched build, it's hit 1500 and counting... 11.46.24 Join webguest25 [0] (i=54997076@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 11.46.24 Quit myzar (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.47.44 # Paul_the_Nerd: Which CVS have you patched against? There were changes to how unboosting is done in the last couple of days 11.48.13 # i have a Studio 10 which wont boot, gives me "hard Disk error" then shuts down, but works fine when connected to my pc via usb 11.48.29 # dan_a: Patched against a CVS checkout from like, 20 minutes ago 11.49.15 # anyone have any suggestions on how I could get it to boot ? 11.50.34 Quit cherubiel ("real men prefer real babes!") 11.51.16 Quit Febs (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.53.23 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 11.53.46 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.192.210) 11.54.07 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host1-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 11.55.49 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.56.57 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.192.210) 11.57.13 # In case anyone's interested, I've updated the CPU boost tracker to scrap the CPUBOOSTID stuff. It's at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6200 - I hope the use of #defines is ok - it doesn't seem to break any builds here. 11.57.34 # * petur gets hungry 11.57.40 Quit petur ("lunch!") 11.57.40 # Got to go now, back later 11.57.47 Quit pondlife ("lunch too!") 12.00.25 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.00.49 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host1-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 12.01.21 Quit idnar (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.04.04 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.04.50 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.05.26 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.192.210) 12.05.49 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 12.07.04 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.10.49 # Anyone with a ipod around? 12.11.01 # Yessir 12.11.18 # Is this description correct? http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-370004.1.4 12.11.35 # of the virtual keyboard. That there is a picker area and a line edit mode 12.12.10 # Tucoz 12.12.13 # yes 12.12.58 # tucoz: Scrolling moves the cursor Up/Down, Prev/Next moves it left/right. Moving it off the bottom or top moves it into the line edit area. 12.13.22 # Prev/Next cannot get you into the line edit area, only scrolling can. 12.13.27 # I am changing that table to use the Action codes. 12.13.59 # Other than that, I believe the description is correct. 12.14.08 # do we need two tables for that? Or is it fine to fit it in one table? 12.14.28 # I think it's okay 12.14.36 # With one table? 12.15.13 # I'll make it one table 12.15.29 # Well, all you need to do is say "Scroll Fwd/Back: Moves the cursor up/down" "Prev/Next: Moves the cursor left/right" "Select: While in keyboard, inserts highlighted letter. While line is selected, deletes previous letter." 12.15.44 # yes. thanks for the help :) 12.16.06 # Though that does make the assumption they'll see that it's logical to move "down" or "up" into the line-select field, but that can be noted. 12.16.18 # Also, that screenshot isn't from a nano, if that matters. 12.16.38 # Oh wait, it is 12.16.51 # My font's just bigger because I'm using iCatcher at the moment for some reason 12.16.55 Join anrdewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-135-3.TAS.netspace.net.au) 12.17.14 # hi all, 12.17.56 # Paul_the_Nerd, I'll try to write something understandable in the table. 12.18.34 Quit Lynx_ (" reboot") 12.19.53 # hi 12.21.36 # was having a problem getting the cvs in vmware, but I think I have that bit licked now.... 12.24.28 Part webguest25 12.29.20 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 12.32.18 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3137.gwdg.de) 12.41.41 Quit mordov|harldywor (Remote closed the connection) 12.46.12 # i am CURSED 12.46.24 # every rockbox build i try hangs :( 12.46.25 # man 12.46.33 # and i try once every few months or so 12.47.45 # i should probably update mine 12.48.06 # Teknomancer: What player do you have? 12.48.14 # iRiver H340 12.48.24 # Yup, you're cursed. 12.48.36 # first i NEED to get a new theme or something the default one SUCKS so bad :( 12.48.46 # i can hardly see what i'm pressing ... 12.49.00 # As far as I'm aware, there aren't known freeze bugs in the official CVS build on H3xx right now. 12.49.44 # default theme for iriver version isnt that bad 12.50.07 # Teknomancer: It includes iCatcher, you could always try switching to that for now. 12.50.16 # Paul_the_Nerd k 12.50.29 # D_C yeah i'm just angry at my luck 12.50.38 # whats the chance of getting a pdf viewer in rockbox 12.50.58 # D_C: About the same as the odds of one of the people who actually *wants* one standing up and coding it. 12.51.02 # or are most of them not powerful enough 12.51.33 # D_C - PDF supposedly looks horrible on the new sony ebook with 10x the screen realestate 12.51.37 # I imagine if it ever were done, it'd take a bit to render the page, yes. 12.51.49 # PDF looks bad on my 320x320 palm, pilot. 12.52.10 # what you want is a simple HTML ebook reader, imho. 12.53.30 # maybe 12.53.34 # I even have adobe's official reader for the palm, and have yet to find a non-100%-text document which is useful on it. 12.54.44 # i have some ebooks in pdf id like to read them on my iriver but i guess thats not gonna happen 12.55.06 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-087-229.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.55.11 # dinner 12.55.23 # I read books exclusively on my palm, HTML is the way to go. 12.56.20 # the advantages of PDF (1:1 screen to page display) are wasted and a hinderance on a portable device. 12.58.20 # ps2ascii! ;-) 12.58.37 # * Paul_the_Nerd wonders if anyone is around that he could talk into looking at the NSF codec for committing. 12.58.42 Join besonen_mobile [0] (n=besonen_@c-24-20-205-44.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 13.07.18 Quit Soap_OutOfTown ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.10.14 # k seems to be working fine now... 13.12.49 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932BCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.14.08 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.15.03 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 13.21.25 Quit barrywardell () 13.25.36 Join L [0] (n=Elric-Ku@cm187.epsilon201.maxonline.com.sg) 13.29.27 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 13.32.39 # * JdGordon is scared to try getting the menu recode resynced... 13.33.05 Join MbS [0] (i=d5caae9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.33.29 # wow! alot less FAILED's then i thought :p 13.33.51 # what is preferred. Disk spin up, or Disk spin-up? 13.34.25 # JdGordon: More button action woes :( 13.34.29 # oh? 13.34.43 # I am running aspell with British English, to make the language more uniform. 13.34.47 # Booting into rockbox from the charging screen doesn't work on player (and presumably also on recorder) 13.35.40 # your going to need to be a lot less vaig (spelling?) than that... i dont have any archos players remember? 13.35.49 # boot loader/bootloader/boot-loader? 13.36.05 # (vague =0p) 13.36.19 # oh man :( my default firmware is now become SUPER bright :( 13.36.21 # man 13.36.26 # I think boot loader is the correct word 13.36.42 # The charging screen used to allow booting into the standard rockbox ui with ON 13.36.53 # Teknomancer: iriver h3x0? 13.36.58 # petur yeah :( 13.36.58 # a boot loader sounds like something that fills your shoes 13.36.59 # Now it doesn't react on any button 13.37.17 # after i installed rockbox, i have NO idea how the default firmware's LCD became so bright even at the lowest setting 13.37.18 # Bagder, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_loader#Boot_loader 13.37.19 # this is bad :( 13.37.32 # Teknomancer: reset settings in the original firmware 13.37.38 Quit L (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 13.37.46 # petur hmm, k 13.37.51 # should we have abbreviations such as CVS in lower or upper case? 13.37.56 # tucoz: I'd guess on that too, english likes to write words apart 13.37.58 # petur it went back to korean 13.38.03 # petur then i switched back to english 13.38.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.38.27 # petur AH Yes, 13.38.29 # COOL, 13.38.32 # amiconn: where is the code for the charging screen? screens.c? 13.38.33 # tucoz: You can get away with calling it bootloader though because any new thing you create can be called whatever you want. We could just as easily call it the glovedumper if we really wanted to, I should think. 13.38.37 # ../tools/configure 13.38.38 # the default fw's settings gets corrupted every now and again by rb 13.38.40 # using "Load Default" worked!! 13.38.46 # petur thanks so much man :) 13.38.47 # bugger wrong window :) 13.38.51 # Teknomancer: you can save your iriver settings to file and reload in case it happens again 13.38.52 # it is boot loader, afaik 13.38.58 # the values go out of the fw's usual range 13.39.00 # Hmm, I was slightly wrong. Now it reacts on ACTION_STD_OK (which is a short press on Play) 13.39.12 # JdGordon: Yes, screens.c charging_screen() 13.39.13 # petur ? u mean rockbox settings? 13.39.22 # you should seldomly concatenate words in english, contrary to what we (or those who know the rules anyway) do in scandinavia 13.39.28 # Tek: iRiver too 13.39.30 # button = get_action(CONTEXT_STD,HZ/3); 13.39.30 # if (button == ACTION_STD_OK) 13.39.31 # rc = 2; 13.39.34 # Paul_the_Nerd, hmm. I understand what you mean. But, to keep it simple and consistent, I want to use the same spelling everywhere and then maybe the english word is the best to use. 13.39.39 # MbS how can i save it to a file in iRiver? 13.39.53 # Teknomancer: iriver saves the settings in eeprom. in rockbox you can read/write this eeprom 13.39.58 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED3A6.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.40.08 # preglow, I think I'll go for boot loader. But, what do you say about CVS vs. cvs? 13.40.13 # JdGordon: Yes, but ACTION_STD_OK is the wrong button 13.40.18 # petur oh, understood, so where in Rockbox do i do that? 13.40.27 # amiconn: so change the button? 13.40.31 # tucoz: can't see any reason not to use CVS 13.40.39 # tucoz: it isn't a word, after all 13.40.39 # thanks. I'll do that 13.40.42 # nah 13.40.44 # hehe 13.40.51 # Tek: Dump rom contents in Info>debug 13.41.17 # Teknomancer: menu -> info -> debug -> dump rom (or something like that) , it creates two files, you can delete the biggest one. 13.41.22 # damn lag 13.41.31 # Tek: and Write back EEPROM to reload them 13.41.32 # but in general. What should I use. Spin-up/spin up, re-program/re program? 13.41.37 # petur okay thanks, next time i boot RB i will do that, 13.41.42 # MbS oh .. that's a risk 13.41.50 # i don't like to meddle with the ROM :( 13.41.54 # amiconn: which action do you wwant to use there? or do you want to put it back to regular button checking because of the few targets which use it? 13.41.54 # hmm. there is a word called reprogramme 13.41.59 # EEPROM, not rom 13.42.11 # petur yes i know 13.42.23 # so each time i must rewrite the eeprom? 13.42.24 # it just writes to the chip that stores the settings - no harm 13.42.32 # JdGordon: That's probably the main question. I think inventing an extra context just for the charging screen would be overkill 13.42.37 # Tek: no, just if there's a big problem 13.42.42 # no, just an option when they get bad again 13.42.48 # * petur shi=uts up 13.42.54 # MbS ok but "Load Default" is working 13.42.55 # shuts even 13.43.00 # so i think using that would be enough 13.43.05 # yes 13.43.07 # I didn't check yet whether we have a context with a suitable action assigned to ON 13.43.21 # but if things get reaaally bad i'll can reinstall the firmware 13.43.25 # 1.29k 13.43.37 # Teknomancer: that won't help 13.43.56 # tucoz: if we go with american english, it's reprogram 13.44.00 # petur i meant reinstall the firmware, not rockbox 13.44.04 # we go with british 13.44.09 # firmware installation rewrites EEPROM 13.44.15 # Teknomancer: indeed. that won't help 13.44.24 # petur why not? 13.44.30 # tucoz: no, it's reprogram anyway, afaik 13.44.38 # Teknomancer: no it doesn't write to eeprom, it writes to flash 13.44.39 # petur that also does load defautls as well 13.44.43 # amiconn: the ipod uses that screen also... so maybe it does need a new context 13.44.43 # ok. thanks. inoperational ? 13.44.51 # Tek: I have a clean and patched fw, a clean cvs build and a proper ROM dump saved in a folder for emergencies. Just move whatever you need to the root and you're set again 13.44.55 # petur ah but i think it rewrites the settings also 13.45.20 # Teknomancer: if things really go wrong, just use the write eeprom feature of rockbox 13.45.22 # MbS k, 13.45.30 # petur ok 13.45.43 # thx MbS petur .. 13.45.49 # letting it charge now, be back later 13.45.59 # and if you don't have a copy, somebody can always give you their dump 13.46.02 # JdGordon: iPod uses the charging screen? That's odd... 13.46.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/screens.c.diff?r1=1.160&r2=1.161 13.46.28 # just think of it as another wonderful safety feature. If the stock gets corrupted beyond use the eeprom can save it 13.46.33 # The charging screen is meant for targets which can't be shut down completely _when rockbox is flashed_ 13.46.58 # MbS: it's just that rockbox is the source of the corruption :( 13.47.08 # i dunno... the CONFIG_KEYPAD is cchecked for ipod in that diff... so it looks like its used... 13.47.08 # So it should only really be included on archos player and recorders atm 13.47.15 # * petur never uses original firmware anymore 13.47.36 # * MbS doesn't either and thinks it's still in korean 13.47.39 Join darkless_ [0] (n=darkless@cpe.atm2-0-1131059.0x50a648ba.banxx1.customer.tele.dk) 13.48.23 # I've been meaning to ask this here: Why can't rb shutdown while charging anymore? 13.48.48 # is it for the iPods 13.48.49 # ? 13.48.57 # MbS: because it would just boot again because of the external power 13.49.19 # rockbox doesn't have a charge screen/mode 13.50.00 # so it would go to the stock charging. which is fine with me. 13.50.02 # speaking of which.. is there any work on changing the h3000 bootloader to not use the OF for ac charging? or do we still want that as a safty thing? 13.50.56 # i'd have thought that charging with the player on would be worse for the batt 13.50.59 # hehe h3000! 13.51.00 # the new bootloader will no longer boot into original firmware... just waiting on Linus... 13.51.32 # I meant on AC insertion of course 13.51.35 # Imho we should fix the charging control on h300 first 13.53.55 # What's wrong with it? Didn't iRiver just use the hardware too? 13.54.48 # The charging circuit can be programmed to either low or high current 13.55.05 # what is it currently? 13.55.14 # Rockbox doesn't handle that yet, so we're always charging with low current 13.55.23 # -> takes ages compared to retailos 13.55.36 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 13.55.42 # amiconn: do you mean usb charging or with the charger? 13.55.54 # Isn't that another reason to let it power down and have the stock charge? 13.57.23 # amiconn: I get the same charging time (about 3 hours - full charge) with both rockbox and retailOS 13.58.29 Quit obo ("Time is an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so.") 13.59.09 # PaulJam: I thought it applies to both. For USB charging it definitely applies 14.00.09 # amiconn: This onlz affects USB charging i think. i charge since 10 month onlz over rockbox AC 14.00.15 Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") 14.00.15 # i haven't noticed longer charging times in rockbox with the charger 14.00.25 # same here 14.00.48 # I think it's only usb charging 14.01.07 # but an "unit off while charging in rockbox" mode would be nice 14.01.08 Join barrywardell [0] (i=892b7a86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-124ea6e9a42b105e) 14.01.43 # at least like a standby in the iriver fw 14.02.40 # Speaking of USB charging... what about #4770 ? 14.02.50 # * Teknomancer starts up rockbox again 14.05.13 Join webguest30 [0] (i=52a680a5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.07.47 # hi, I'm trying to learn c, and I can't figure something out (very nooby, I fear). can anyone hear help me? 14.08.10 # there's no question so we can't answer 14.08.46 Quit TeaSea (Connection timed out) 14.09.05 # webguest30 ask, and we'll see if we can help 14.09.28 # ok. in the book I'm lerning from, it shows me how to make a program that terminates when getchar() returns EOF 14.10.04 # but I don't know how to input this, so it doesn't terminate 14.10.26 # rockbox has no getchar() 14.10.58 # Bagder i dont think webguest30 is even doing RB related development .... 14.11.11 # perhaps, but then this is not the right channel 14.11.11 # yea, well I'm learning from a book right now 14.11.37 # where can I look for an answer? 14.11.50 # in a "learn C" forum somewhere 14.11.52 # in #cnewbie or ##c++ or #c++newbie 14.12.21 # I'll try those. thanks anyway 14.12.28 # yw 14.12.59 # Rob2222: there's no such thing as 'standby': it either runs or it doesn't. And you can't charge while not running. 14.13.40 Part webguest30 14.13.56 # you could switch cpu to idle speed and show a fancy picture, but that won't help much 14.14.07 # petur: yes, but iriver had somthing like standby, when you press OFF while charging. at least this mode consumed less power then "on withou play" 14.14.41 # not much probably 14.15.21 # and what's the use anyway. You can't switch off when full 14.15.59 # petur 56mA instead of 113mA 14.16.24 # well ok, good question. 14.16.35 # :) 14.16.37 # ok, so switch to idle cpu freq 14.17.26 # * petur wonders if we don't do that when not playing and just sitting in the browser/menu 14.17.50 # * MbS goes to check 14.18.05 # probably not. radio does it 14.18.42 # * JdGordon kisses (in the most hetero-suxually way possible) whoever fixed the scedular... my menu patch isnt holding the cpu boosted anymore :D 14.18.50 # * MbS forgets where his H300 is...... 14.19.12 # suxually? :) 14.19.18 # lol 14.19.21 # actually.. im not sure if what its doing now is any better tho... seems to keep booting and unboosting straight away 14.19.24 # ok, im afk 14.19.27 # bah typos 14.19.36 # My iPod currently gets a boostcount somewhere in the 800-1500 range. =/ 14.19.49 # It appears the COP patch doesn't like something. 14.19.54 # haha 14.20.27 # * petur hums along the tune of copkiller 14.20.29 # I was actually most surprised when it suddenly *stopped* increasing the boost count. 14.21.01 # beer time.. then drunken debugging :D 14.21.36 # * petur will join JdGordon in about 6 hours :D 14.22.39 # Rob2222: As long as we don't put rockbox in flash on H300, there is no point in having a charging screen 14.22.54 # The reason is that we need to load from disk anyway 14.23.26 # All we could do is to put some kind of charging screen in the bootloader, but I don't think that'd be a good idea 14.24.32 # i believe we should have a charging screen in the bootloader 14.24.34 # the only advantage would be that you can attach/detatch AC and not have to press OFF afterwards to stop the player 14.25.07 # we need to handle the charger anyway, to implement car adapter mode properly 14.25.08 # detach even 14.27.42 # LinusN: Car adapter mode doesn't need special handling as long as we don't flash 14.27.59 # just boot rockbox on AC 14.28.07 # All it needs is to start / stop playback when charger is present/absent 14.28.09 # hint hint hint :) 14.28.09 # it does, since inserting the charger starts the OF 14.28.41 # Yes, but that only needs adjustment in the bootloader 14.28.54 # ...independently of car adapter mode 14.29.01 # * petur still wonders why double-clicking on starts OF as well 14.29.17 # yes, and then we need to handle charging as well, since the battery may be too low to boot rockbox 14.29.36 # petur: it's an effect of the anti-bricking protection 14.29.55 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 14.30.36 # it powers off if the ON button isn't held when the boot loader starts 14.31.15 # but then it has already set the cookie in IRAM 14.31.20 # it is actually a bug 14.31.30 # for me it's a feature ;) 14.31.43 # not that I boot OF a lot 14.32.35 # brb 14.34.54 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 14.38.27 Join webguest29 [0] (i=86920006@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.41.19 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 14.41.25 Join webguest29 [0] (i=86920006@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.41.28 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 14.51.44 Join w1ll14m [0] (i=546851d0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.52.05 # Hi i am william, and i would like to have write permissions on the wiki 14.54.12 # w1ll14m, hold on 14.54.59 # w1ll14m, try now 14.58.16 Quit MbS ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.00.22 Join MbS [0] (i=d5caae9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.02.07 # wtf. what happened to the wiki? 15.02.43 # I get a error 500 now 15.02.51 # it was grand 10 mins ago 15.03.00 # yes 15.03.06 # have seen it before, just try again 15.03.10 # was it that guy who just asked for access?? 15.03.18 # hehe 15.03.42 # i get nervous when i add a guy for write access, and 5 minutes later the wiki goes down. 15.03.54 # ah, back 15.03.55 # thanx 15.04.10 # w1ll14m, no problem 15.04.13 # :) 15.04.19 # *whew* i thought all you needed was to sign up for access 15.04.56 # you have to get write permission as well. We have had lot's of spam earlier on 15.05.03 # hehehe nice bug in this heading: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/17/nvidia_linux_graphics_bug/ 15.05.16 # "Nvidia rooted by Linux graphics bug" 15.05.46 # i don't get it 15.06.04 # should it be the other way around? 15.06.13 # I think so 15.06.19 # hehe 15.06.27 # but they'must have written it like that on purpose 15.07.32 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 15.10.03 # it'd been so long since I made a functional commit, I'd forgotten to check the build table :-P 15.13.09 Part LinusN 15.15.03 Quit Kalthare ("Leaving.") 15.17.49 # rockbox is finaly a real reason to buy a ipod 5g hehehe :) 15.18.45 # * JdGordon back 15.27.06 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 15.30.25 Part Paul_the_Nerd 15.38.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.38.20 Join MHen [0] (n=user@p54A36E69.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.38.59 # amiconn: have u decided how you want to fix the charging screen? 15.43.45 Quit besonen_mobile (Connection timed out) 15.48.05 Join daurn [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 15.49.18 # is there some kind of file that describes how the metronome.c file is put together, or am I going to have to work harder to understand C? 15.49.49 # I fear the latter 15.50.06 # if there's nothing in the wiki about it 15.50.19 # The plugin API page in the Wiki will probably help a little 15.51.16 Part MHen 15.51.36 # dan_a, can you link to that page for me please? 15.52.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins 15.52.20 # k bye guys 15.52.30 # cu later anrdewmel (maybe at MR ;) ) 15.52.30 # pondlife: damn, it seems as if i was wrong and your patch didn't cause the whitenoise problem. i have just had the problem with a sim from 1. aug. 15.52.34 Part Teknomancer 15.53.10 # thanks petur, that is the sort of thing that will let me get started, some kind of roadmap 15.53.52 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 15.54.08 # barrywardell: around? 15.54.21 # pondlife: it seems as if i was wrong and your patch didn't cause the whitenoise problem. i have just had the problem with a sim from 1. aug. 15.56.15 # Well, that's a bit of a relief. I couldn't see how that particular commit could cause chaos. 15.56.38 # Have you tried CVS with lostlogic's latest, by the way? He may have fixed whitenoise too. 15.57.48 # i have tried with the patch on the tracker before he comitted, and got whitenoise. 15.58.13 # OK, I think it;s the same as the CVS commit. 15.58.24 # So can you go back further than 1 Aug? 15.58.30 # I assume so...! 15.59.16 # yes, but i have to do the tests on the target, because audio in the sdl sim was broken before 1. august 15.59.20 # I tried to repro again, with no voice file, but could not.make it fail. 15.59.37 # :( And you will start to hit other playback bugs too I expect 16.00.41 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.01.21 # Better do a large binary search then - maybe start in early March.. 16.01.43 # on the two test (1, with voicefile and 2. with the changes to playback.c) i did yesterday i got whwitenoise too, but only at second try 16.02.12 # It definitely seems to be intermittent at best here. 16.07.06 # i wonder why i didn't notice the problem before. i have often used the random folder at end of dir function (patch). 16.15.39 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 16.16.37 Join falkyre [0] (n=falkyre@209.8.41.182) 16.17.41 # PaulJam: I thought it only occurred if you let playback stop naturally - i.e. end of playlist or album? 16.17.43 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-14-251.dyn.iinet.net.au) 16.17.45 # thanks all, managed to get my first compile done tonight, and am starting to understand one of the plugin files :) 16.19.33 # pondlife: with the random folder function it happens too, at least in newer builds. 16.20.13 Quit chendo_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.20.45 Quit anrdewmel ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 16.20.46 # What about the CVS with "auto change dir" enabled? 16.22.58 Quit falkyre (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.23.03 Quit obo ("bye") 16.23.31 # i don't know what happens if it is set to on. i have always set it to random in normal use. 16.24.58 # damnit. kalthare's not here. 16.25.07 Join falkyre [0] (n=falkyre@209.8.41.182) 16.25.59 Join webguest59 [0] (i=549977d0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.28.12 # Archos Studio10: There is a long delay between actual shutdown and button press, is this supposed to be like this ? 16.29.14 # it takes about 5- 10 seconds to shutdown once 'shut down' has been selected in the menu 16.30.52 # infact after timing it, it takes 25 seconds to shutdown once 'shutdown' has been selected 16.31.22 # Bagder, Linus, amiconn, Dragon ^^ 16.31.38 # wow. 16.31.43 # thats a long time. 16.32.13 # yep sure is, at first I thought I was doing somethign wrong 16.46.24 Join L [0] (n=Elric-Ku@cm187.epsilon201.maxonline.com.sg) 16.48.52 # you're probably user #2 of a recent rockbox on the player 16.49.00 # :-) 16.49.16 # #1 being amiconn 16.49.20 # and #3 doesn't exist 16.49.48 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@93.sub-75-193-157.myvzw.com) 16.49.49 # haha 16.51.00 # [16:48:28] <@Bagder> and #3 doesn't exist <-- I doubt that... 16.51.17 # well, my scientific research isn't completed just yet 16.51.52 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-10-245.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 16.52.00 Quit NickDe (Client Quit) 16.52.42 # pixelma: here now 16.53.47 # who would want to use such a thing? 16.53.56 # that display would freak me out 16.54.08 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-031-208.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.54.26 # * tucoz transforms preglows screen to charcell *ZAP* 16.55.20 # barrywardell, did you keep the fixme because you didn't know what to do with it, or because the section needs to be fixed? 16.56.26 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 16.57.47 # preglow: I have 8 rockboxes to choose from. I often choose the player for in-car use 16.58.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host163-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 16.58.25 # tucoz: because i thought maybe it needed to be fleshed out a bit 16.58.49 # ok. that's fine 17.01.02 Join besonen_mobile [0] (n=besonen_@71-220-224-29.eugn.qwest.net) 17.02.52 # pondlife: do you think the whitenoise and stopping could be related to the commits on 15 May 02:37 and 3 Jun 17:23? i just tried with auto change dir set to yes with a cvs build on target and the first track of the second album is now at 7:22/5:52 . 17.03.18 # Hang on, I'll take a look 17.04.56 # barrywardell: got my PM? 17.05.47 # just noticed now 17.06.20 Join charkins [0] (n=casey@pdpc/supporter/active/charkins) 17.07.48 # PaulJam: I wouldn't think it was those. Did you find that a version from before May worked ok? Or did you mean the current CVS is working ok now? 17.10.12 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 17.10.34 # i haven't yet tested a build from before august. i'll do that later. this was just a guess. 17.11.46 # OK 17.11.47 # with a current cvs version and autochange dir to yes i had the whitenoiseproblem already at the first track of the second album 17.11.53 Quit L (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.12.02 # Thought so. 17.12.43 # The track end detection has been reported before, seems to be another symptom of the same problem (alongside white noise) 17.13.08 # I've just got to reboot again. Be right back. 17.13.32 Quit pondlife (".Oo.") 17.21.05 Quit w1ll14m ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.22.33 Join webguest22 [0] (i=5139f293@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 17.22.52 # Hello ! 17.23.08 # ello 17.24.04 # * webguest59 wonders where the drinks for the guests are 17.24.20 Join webguest79 [0] (i=c338e5d1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 17.24.22 # If I want to buy a new device exclusively for Rockbox, what is the 'best' device to buy in terms of rockbox support, hd size and power ? 17.24.25 # hi 17.25.02 # webguests: How hard is to type a nick? :P 17.25.07 # webguest22: I think iaudio x5 17.25.34 # * petur doesn't know about x5 battery life 17.25.37 Quit webguest79 (Client Quit) 17.27.07 # petur: I would say H300 17.27.36 # only if you replace the HDD and maybe battery 17.27.44 # X5 is still in production and available in shops 17.27.51 # indeed 17.28.01 # petur: Why replace the battery? 17.28.08 Join Sinbios [0] (i=Sinbios@dsl-10-136-32.b2b2c.ca) 17.28.10 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.28.52 # I get 20 hours with stock battery on my H340 17.28.53 Join p3tur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-39f6c41547a9043b) 17.29.05 # with rockbox of course 17.29.17 # cause with retailOS I get about 16 17.29.32 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (i=d4efd6a6@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.29.38 Quit webguest22 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.31.19 Part webguest59 17.33.53 # * Genre9mp3 hates X5's sub-pack... USBOTG is much more difficult for X5 to ever work in Rockbox, LCD is smaller compared to H300 17.34.04 # that's why I would say H300 over an X5 17.36.35 # sure, but the OP talked about HDD size and battery, not screen size or subpack 17.37.05 # I looked at x5 and h300 and took the iriver 17.37.14 # too bad iriver stopped it 17.37.28 # and didn't create the h360 and h380 17.37.49 # I missed the "hd size" part... but then again, what's wrong with H300s battery? 17.38.17 # I think battery life is longer on H300 than on X5 17.38.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.38.23 # if you're opening it for a hdd, you can do the battery upgrade too 17.39.12 # yes ok.. but still the stock battery can give you 20 hours with Rockbox (except if its old) 17.39.18 # I think that's more than enough 17.39.48 # gtg 17.39.57 Quit petur ("later!") 17.40.45 # Battery runtime in rockbox on X5 is not yet what it should be 17.40.53 # indeed 17.41.05 # AFAIK, it's slightly less than retailOS 17.41.41 # I haven't had any complaints about the battery in the last few months 17.41.53 # very early X5 versions were extremely bad there, yes 17.42.21 # 17:38:17 < Genre9mp3> I think battery life is longer on H300 than on X5 <- there's the X5L for battery life. 17.42.56 # X5L has a 2250mAh battery, though 17.45.25 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 17.45.59 # luckz: Yes, but rockbox still consumes more cpu power than it should, leading to higher boost ratio -> shorter battery runtime 17.46.09 # on X5, that it 17.46.16 # s/it/is/ 17.46.18 # sure it does. 17.46.23 # but I'm not majorly bothered by it right now. 17.46.44 # what does bother me is that either my playlist or the shuffling of said playlist is broken 17.46.55 # because all my X5 lately does is play iron maiden songs. 17.47.01 # * Genre9mp3 would like to see an X6 or something from Cowon in the future, though (since iriver changed their strategies) 17.47.13 # with? 17.47.23 # just more HD? any fancy new features? 17.48.19 # oh, does anybody have a good suggestion regarding a theme I could use for in the car? factors are occasional extreme sunlight & that it should be possible to control the thing as quickly as possible to minimize traffic risks 17.49.34 # Turn on voice? 17.49.51 # luckz: A theme with big font maybe? 17.49.55 # No need to look at the screen then 17.50.08 # I usually only change tracks at traffic lights 17.50.26 # What if you *really* hate a track...;-) 17.50.31 Part floridablink 17.50.37 # but I'd just like to see as much info as possible quickly. differently-coloured backgrounds tend to get really uncool with sunlight. 17.50.52 # then I use one hand to switch tracks while keeping my eyes on the road, usually? :p 17.52.35 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 17.52.38 Join bluebrother [0] (i=GghpmMJa@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 17.53.14 # but yes, are there any themes popular here with track number, album name, possibly genre, volume as number instead of graphical display? 17.53.22 # big fonts sadly are a real pain when browsing menus 17.53.50 # have you checked the wps gallery to find out if there is one you like? 17.54.34 Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") 17.55.40 Join rr3tzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-017-152.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.55.43 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 17.56.00 # I browsed the x5-specific gallery long long ago and changed a few things about S3T_003, but the background there (girl at beach) is really bad when combined with direct sunlight 17.56.23 # * Genre9mp3 would like to have an option to select different font for the remote btw 17.59.10 # luckz: I think you could also search the H100 wps gallery... the files there should work (and a background picture isn't so common with these) ...or make your own wps 18.01.59 Quit PaulJam (".") 18.02.45 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18.03.48 Quit Strath (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.05.00 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 18.05.48 # what does \optv{} do in a manual build? 18.06.50 # barrywardell, it's the same as \opt but it's needed if you use \verb (or anything that uses \verb). 18.07.06 # opt breaks with verb. 18.07.30 # ah, ok. thanks 18.19.06 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.142.146) 18.20.27 Quit dan_a (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18.24.59 Join Soap_OutOfTown [0] (i=463d19f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 18.32.05 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 18.35.00 Quit Soap_OutOfTown ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.37.08 # hrm, i have serious problems with exiting some applications 18.37.17 # right now i'm stuck in some image viewer :) 18.39.19 Join Soap_OutOfTown [0] (i=463d19f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 18.43.25 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h187n8c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 18.44.49 # tucoz, the player manual is broken :( 18.45.05 # has the player the pitch screen? 18.46.24 # can someone tell me the keys for the pitch screen on the player? 18.47.54 # psiborg: what device do you have 18.50.48 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 19.00.09 Quit [H5N1] (Remote closed the connection) 19.00.29 # bluebrother, right. I haven't tried to compile that 19.00.49 # bluebrother, I couldn't find pitch screen action codes for the player 19.01.09 # so I assumed that that feature was not included in the player builds 19.02.22 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.02.28 # amiconn, ping 19.04.01 # Hm.. Is there really any point in building doom for the h1x0? 19.06.07 # It has been ported to the TI-83 line of calculators, so why not ;) 19.06.20 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 19.06.51 # i think the point of building doom for the h1x0 is more valid, than the point of building rockboy for the recorder. 19.07.18 # barrywardell: it's an ipod nano 19.07.37 # Just thought that playing doom with 4 shades of gray would be a tad ... boring... :) 19.07.50 # i did get to the menu somehow and i've exited, but i don't think i could reproduce this reliably :) 19.08.12 # I tend to agree. And probably quite impossible as well. 19.08.39 # * Soap_OutOfTown is paranoid about trashing DAP buttons playing games. 19.08.49 # psiborg: SELECT+MENU brings up the menu 19.08.49 # Lear: I think it uses the greyscale library so a bit more than 4 shades of grey... 19.09.00 # Ah... 19.09.02 # barrywardell: why isn't that just menu? 19.09.14 # Haven't actually tried it myself... 19.09.19 # pixelma, do you know if the player has the pitch screen? 19.09.55 # tucoz: sorry, no I don't 19.10.22 Join [H5N1] [0] (i=mrflu@laggy.us) 19.10.58 # psiborg: because when scrolling around the jpeg, menu moves up 19.11.51 # i think exiting an application is more important than scrolling done the right way :) 19.13.59 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 19.14.03 # Ok. current fix to the player manual is to not include the pitch screen in that. 19.14.41 # bbl 19.15.16 # psiborg: possibly. i don't own an ipod so can't really comment 19.15.17 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 19.25.37 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 19.25.50 # tucoz: Pitch isn't possible on the player, so you're right 19.26.51 # Lear: Doom on H1x0 and the greyscale ipods uses the grayscale library, so it uses 33 shades of grey 19.27.25 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.28.21 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3111.gwdg.de) 19.28.36 # rockboy on recorder was mainly an experiment. It's currently way too slow to be playable, and the major downscaling doesn't make things better 19.29.00 Part pixelma 19.29.06 # It might be possible to gain some speed by optimising the cpu emulation core 19.29.31 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 19.32.30 # tucoz, bluebrother: In fact pitch would technically be possible on the player, but the allowed range would be so small that it wouldn't be worth it (iirc around 3% _in total_ - and the range is asymmetric, and depends on the sample frequency). 19.32.36 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 19.37.11 Quit qailer (Remote closed the connection) 19.38.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.40.24 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 19.40.27 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@85.64.207.9.dynamic.barak-online.net) 19.44.51 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 19.50.21 Quit Rudy4Pez (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.54.02 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 19.56.12 Quit godzirra ("Lost terminal") 19.56.13 Quit qailer (Remote closed the connection) 19.58.55 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 19.59.32 Quit Ribs (Nick collision from services.) 19.59.39 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 20.01.59 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54877F48.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.03.20 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p548483E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.12.02 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 20.12.32 Quit daurn (Read error: 128 (Network is unreachable)) 20.18.11 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 20.19.01 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 20.21.36 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.22.33 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 20.23.20 Quit Strath ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 20.24.31 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=susaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 20.24.32 # amiconn, thanks for the information. 20.24.40 Part Paul_the_Nerd 20.25.06 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 20.25.58 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 20.35.09 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 20.35.10 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.35.18 Quit MbS (Nick collision from services.) 20.35.40 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.142.146) 20.37.44 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 20.44.10 Join daurn [0] (n=nquae@124.243.137.107) 20.52.22 # * dan_a learns to hate SD cards 20.53.19 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 20.54.19 # (or more accurately, the protocol) 20.54.42 # you're on the flash already? 20.55.40 # MrH has reverse engineered 3 things so far - the buttons, the LCD, and the flash. We've not got a driver for the flash yet... 20.56.14 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 20.56.29 # didn't he do a writeup on that as well? 20.56.59 # He did; that's what I'm working from. 20.57.25 # And taking a crash course in the SD protocol in order to understand it! 20.58.50 Join webguest65 [0] (i=c3ec4b1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.00.29 Quit qailer (Remote closed the connection) 21.02.48 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 21.03.54 # dan_a: i ran your e200 stuff on my sansa last nite, works great 21.04.00 Quit FOAD_ ("I'll be back") 21.04.18 # netmasta10bt: Excellent news :D 21.04.28 # yes thanks very much 21.04.34 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 21.06.25 # what is the adc stuff used for? 21.08.03 # I hoped that the Sansa would use the same adc as the H10 - it might be used for things like monitoring the battery level. It seems it's different, though 21.08.26 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 21.09.54 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.cm-upc.chello.se) 21.10.41 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 21.15.57 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967CEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.20.27 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 21.22.09 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 21.31.54 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.32.13 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 21.35.07 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.215.119) 21.38.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.40.19 # does someone know how to search for all tasks in FS where I'm on the notification list? 21.40.51 # Isn't that something like search for "tasks I'm watching"? 21.41.51 # "Tasks I watch" from the dropdown list in the top left of the tracker index page. 21.43.13 # ^ of course you have to login first for that option to show up 21.44.18 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-62-6.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.48.16 Join Bossier [0] (i=nunya@66.112.107.102.dyn.centurytel.net) 21.48.19 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.49.19 # I have a quick question, would the boosting changes in the 20061016 build address the frequency scaling issue with 4g ipods? 21.50.31 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 21.51.55 # dan_a, something like this -- but I haven't found anything in FS. 21.53.05 Join Mmmm [0] (n=martin@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust474.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.53.13 # Bossier: which issue was that? 21.53.54 # bluebrother: have you login to flyspray and still you can't find that option? 21.54.08 # yes. 21.55.12 # Weird...I get these options: All tasks/Tasks assigned to me/Tasks reported by me/Tasks I watch 21.55.23 # on my ipod mini1g it would freeze up during playback at at times, there is a patch that corrects this but my ipod has playback issues with that patch applied on the 1016 build. I looked at the changes and saw alot about cpu boosting so I thought maybe my problem was that I applied a patch for a problem that build just addressed. 21.56.28 Join anrdewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-135-3.TAS.netspace.net.au) 21.57.47 Quit ender` (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.59.07 # btw, you guys are great! I tried rockbox after finally giving up on seeing mpd work on ipodlinux. everything else on linux worked, but if mpd doesn't work.....well, that's why I bought an ipod to begin with 22.00.02 # hi 22.00.24 # hi 22.00.26 # Genre9mp3, found it. I didn't look _there_ 22.01.16 Quit rr3tzbach (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.41 Join alphakiller [0] (n=bits@200.162.22.132) 22.04.16 Quit alphakiller (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.06.25 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.08.02 Quit Siku () 22.08.49 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 22.09.03 # Bossier: I don't think that the boosting stuff on 10/16 would have fixed or changed any kind of freezeups on the ipod4tg 22.09.53 # Hi, I am wondering what you guys are using to edit .c files? When I open them up in notepad the lack of linebreaks makes it very difficult to navigate 22.10.12 # use notepad2 22.10.58 # if you're a student you can get visual studio and all sorts of neat things for this. 22.10.59 # or any other editor that can handle unix lineendings 22.11.10 Quit bawb2 (Remote closed the connection) 22.11.23 # ... vi... is there another editor that I should be aware of? 22.11.25 # (vim to be precise) 22.11.51 # emacs ;) 22.12.34 # is there a good place to get equalizer preset files? 22.13.00 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 22.13.08 # anrdewmel: I use TextPad Pro on Windows. vi in Linux. 22.15.50 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 22.15.52 # righto, I have installed Notepad2, and it looks like I can read it. :) Now for my first changes. 22.17.02 # anrdewmel, I prefer gvim. But it might be a bit unintuitive. Rockbox files use unix line endings and mostly everything except notpad can read that. 22.17.29 # * bluebrother uses gvim even on windows 22.17.42 # bluebrother: regarding keytables in the manual... shouldn't the key for "show menu" (if there's a plugin specific menu) be listed, too? (I'm looking at solitaire.tex right now) 22.19.38 Quit Bossier ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.19.45 # pixelma, indeed, it should. It's also present at least for the sudoku plugin 22.20.18 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.22.58 # ah alright - I will add it then :) 22.23.31 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@AC9EDED8.ipt.aol.com) 22.26.47 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 22.32.15 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 22.36.51 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 22.36.58 # ello 22.37.12 # hey stripwax 22.38.21 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.39.02 # saw a couple of unusual problems with a cvs build from today - permanent cpu boosting on ipod 5g, and keypresses in the "audio thread' debug info page doing weird things (skipping tracks etc but unable to exit the info page). Are those known problems? 22.44.16 Join edx [0] (i=edx@edx.chu.cam.ac.uk) 22.44.48 Quit Mmmm (Remote closed the connection) 22.47.38 # dan_a: The flash in the Sansa uses the SD protocol? 22.47.56 # amiconn: According to MrH, yes 22.48.22 # Maybe you can reuse some bits of the Ondio MMC driver 22.48.37 # MMC and SD are similar 22.48.43 # "the mystery SanDisk chip located near the NAND chips is actually a custom SD <-> NAND bridge/device controller" 22.48.50 # I'm planning to use what I can 22.49.02 Quit Arathis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.49.18 # The MMC in the Ondio uses the SPI interface though, but I think you can reuse some command stuff 22.49.52 Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") 22.50.02 # The bad thing about SD is that it is rather closed. MMC is more open, although the full official specs cost money 22.50.30 # Fortunately there is some open documentation on SD. 22.50.40 # there's also SD/MMC support in linux 22.50.53 # I've never done anything remotely like this before, though. 22.50.57 # I don't know if it helps though 22.53.53 Quit blueworm ("Leaving") 22.53.54 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p548483E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.55.51 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.57.19 Quit Soap_OutOfTown ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.03.01 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 23.03.09 # woot, made my first variable, and put some text, including that variable, on the screen in the metronome plugin 23.03.24 # now to make it do something useful :) 23.03.41 # Well done! 23.05.31 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.20.51 Part RedKennedy 23.30.34 Join astronut [0] (n=astronut@sfnc-162-39-87-155.sandhills.us) 23.30.41 Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC") 23.30.57 # anyone running on an iRiver H10? 23.31.14 # anrdewmel, did rockbox already have a metronome plugin? I can't remember 23.31.45 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 23.32.02 # astronut: rockbox on h10? yes for me 23.32.14 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 23.32.21 # Arathis: how well is it working? wiki says lots still not supported yet 23.32.24 Join Soap_OutOfTown [0] (i=463d19f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 23.34.07 # BHSPitLappy: yes, it has 23.34.10 Quit Id2ndR (Client Quit) 23.34.30 # it's been too long since I've had/used rockbox 23.34.45 # why's that? 23.34.56 # astronut: it works fine. recording and fm radio isn't supported yet and you might get problems when using a WPS with peakmeter or playing a game while playing music because the second cpu isn't in use yet (as far as I know) 23.35.09 # WPS? 23.35.19 # while playing screen 23.35.21 # you could have a look at the rockbox section for the h10 on misticriver.com 23.35.35 Part Paul_the_Nerd 23.36.38 # something seemed to indicate it can dualboot? 23.36.50 # Arathis: the only thing is i maintain easyh10 for debian 23.36.50 # heh 23.37.04 # do i get ogg support w/ rockbox? 23.37.10 Join myzar [0] (i=derelict@cpe-72-129-81-32.socal.res.rr.com) 23.37.13 # you do 23.37.21 # nice 23.37.23 # i'll have to try it out someday 23.37.34 # i just hope i don't totally fuck up my player 23.37.45 # dualbot isn't supported yet if not commited today 23.38.02 # oh, ok, just on other players? 23.38.11 # you on 20 or 5/6? 23.38.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.38.49 # you can't brake your player at all though you just put the .rockbox folder, the rockbox.h10 file and the modified bootloader (.mi4) on it 23.38.59 # I'm on 20g 23.39.04 # +b 23.39.27 # but as long as you don' use a pure model you won't get any problems 23.39.30 # and if rockbox fails, the next time i turn it on, it won't load, and i can't revert it 23.39.41 # pure? 23.39.44 # and i'm also on 20gb 23.40.18 # trying to decide how much i want recorder/radio 23.40.21 # it's worth a try at least 23.41.28 # the screenshots in the manual look ugly as sin 23.44.39 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@142.131.242.206) 23.44.49 # ah, sweet, the boatloader stays 23.44.51 # nice 23.47.17 # BHSPitLappy, there is a metronome, I want to beef it up a bit. I would like to add a beats per bar chime, and the ability to swing the beat, if I have the skill 23.49.26 # astronut: "pure" means without radio. a special version of the 5/6gb. radio *could* be implemented quite fast if someone would do it, 'cause the code is mostly written for the H3x0 and just needs to be modified 23.50.36 # where are all the programmers? 23.50.45 # where are all the rockboxers!!!!!!!!!!!! 23.50.48 # WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 23.51.51 Quit Soap_OutOfTown ("CGI:IRC") 23.52.20 # * petur hands myzar the troll of the day badge 23.52.52 Quit rigel ("leaving") 23.54.14 # i'm not trolling 23.54.23 # i'm just letting out my depression in the irc channel 23.54.27 # :'( 23.55.25 # myzar: What do you need programmers for? 23.56.06 # oh, i don't personally 23.56.13 # just asking ;p