--- Log for 19.10.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.02 # does that mean he has to/can enable tag cache and stuff like that now? 00.00.08 # that are the only i can see 00.00.25 # change the fileview to show all files 00.00.29 Nick NeoniX is now known as RaiderX (n=Snake@71.196.36.53) 00.00.39 # bbl 00.00.39 # hey 00.00.52 # i just fisnhed an edit off my Theme X theme 00.00.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/WpsIpod5g?rev=1;filename=Theme_X_Glow.png 00.00.56 # comments pls 00.00.58 # =D 00.01.36 # for? 00.01.39 # just ipod5g? 00.01.52 # yes 00.01.55 # mhm 00.02.03 # I wouldn't mind somebody suggesting a nice ipod mini theme 00.02.09 # hmm 00.02.14 # check the wiki 00.02.23 # and also check www.rockbox-themes.org 00.02.49 # i coudl never work with maming a colorless theme 00.04.36 # * preglow kicks fixed point 00.05.05 # ok found them .. now how to recover my old bib ? 00.05.13 # or something like it 00.06.01 # tag cache ?? 00.06.34 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.07.20 # cant find a full menue listing anywhere .. 00.08.06 Quit blueworm ("Leaving") 00.09.16 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.10.07 Quit JB () 00.11.12 Quit ender` (" Programming is like sex becuse: 2. Once you get started, you’ll only stop because you’re exhausted.") 00.11.45 Join JB [0] (n=JB@adsl-70-239-5-90.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 00.14.07 # ok got it.. 00.14.11 # thx .. 00.14.13 # and n8 .. 00.14.25 Quit d4t3r () 00.15.59 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-197-26.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 00.16.40 # Amazing, the converted font works perfectly 00.17.03 # however it doesn't look exactly like the font used on the ipod 00.17.28 # does the ipod have anti-aliasing? 00.18.00 # i believe they do have some sort of dithering effect on the font 00.18.32 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7037.0 00.18.57 # RaiderX: no need to "advertise" the thread here... 00.19.02 # :( 00.19.12 # comment on my theme pls? 00.19.30 # oh and yes, the apple firmware uses anti-aliasing on the fonts 00.19.33 # I just converted the MyriadPro-Semibold font (the font that the iPod and Apple uses) and it doesn't look the same 00.19.41 # um 00.19.45 # thats not the font it uses 00.19.57 # the font is PodiumSans 00.20.14 # it definitely is the font that they use for their commercials and website 00.20.25 # RaiderX: nice, but i am into more information displayed than prettiness ;) 00.20.26 # oh, i thoguth you meant the apple firmware font 00.20.26 # i'll take a look at that font 00.20.52 # i dont need much info displayed on mine, i just need the song, next, progress, thats about it lol 00.21.04 # just saying my preferences 00.21.08 # ok 00.21.12 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (n=ScorchE@c-24-127-11-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 00.21.57 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.22.34 # Isn't it true that we could save the bitmap from the apple firmwire and convert that into a font? 00.22.34 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.22.56 # well 00.23.05 # copyright issues mainly 00.23.06 # you can save the apple firmware font with iPW 00.23.11 # but yes 00.23.17 # you cant exactly release it lgally 00.23.23 # and the anti-aliasing effect only looks good on white backgroungs 00.23.34 # rockbox has an anti-alising effect? 00.23.40 # o.o 00.23.42 # no, but the font does 00.23.48 # yea, but rockbox wont show it 00.24.07 # doesnt it just make the font all full pixels? 00.25.22 Join yipe [0] (n=yipely@12-218-163-227.client.mchsi.com) 00.26.14 Nick pill is now known as _pill (i=pill@loves.voltshells.com) 00.29.01 Quit ShadowdogMU ("You know you'll miss me :P") 00.30.36 # something is very wrong with my ipod 00.31.24 # when I plug in the USB connector, it switches to disk mode like it should, but the indicator quickly turns from "Do not disconnect" to "Okay to disconnect" at which point my computer can no longer see my ipod 00.32.22 # I've tried just restarting it into disk mode and THEN connecting it, but in this case it just says "Okay to disconnect" immediately 00.32.41 # does it also do that when you start it up in disk mode and then connect it? 00.32.48 # yes 00.33.02 Quit JB () 00.33.03 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host140-0.pool80183.interbusiness.it) 00.34.13 # try botting the apple firmware 00.34.16 # *booting 00.34.24 # and plugging in the usb cable 00.36.21 Quit barrywardell () 00.39.48 # eq is accurate down to 20 hz now 00.39.50 # wotness 00.40.24 # heh 00.40.25 # I ummmm, no longer have the apple firmware :( 00.42.30 # at least I don't think I do, all the apple stuff that was on the hard drive I deleted after it seemed that rockbox was working well for me and preferable to apple's 00.44.49 # whoa, it actually is there 00.45.43 # no way!! 00.46.02 # but it doesn't work right 00.46.59 Quit besonen_mobile__ (Connection timed out) 00.47.11 # like the battery doesn't seem to be charging, and it's not going into that semi-disk mode 00.47.11 Join besonen_mobile__ [0] (n=besonen_@71-220-224-29.eugn.qwest.net) 00.49.40 # semi-disk mode? 00.49.48 # and how can you tell that the battery is or isn't charging? 00.51.39 # yipe: if you just want to charge, you can boot into rockbox and hold menu while plugging in the ipod...otherwise, it gives the same effect when charging from the usb port on my dvr 00.52.25 # then you can see it charge in the battery option in the debug menu 00.55.06 # I'm not really worried about it charging, I want to put more music on there! 00.56.02 # freqmod: looks decidedly cleaner now, yes 00.56.06 # ehh, you're not here 00.56.12 # * scorche reads above 00.56.33 # midkay when I was running the original firmware, and I'd plug my ipod in, it would go into disk mode, but it wouldn't reboot, also the splash screen was slicker 00.56.39 # hrm...are you plugging it into a usb hub? 00.56.42 # that's what I mean by semi-disk mode 00.57.07 # and I can tell the battery isn't charging because the battery life icon isn't moving 00.57.20 # I'm plugging it directly into my computer's USB ports 00.57.41 # * yipe is ignorant :( 00.57.49 # multiple ones on the motherboard? 00.57.56 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 00.58.07 # yeah 00.59.20 # have you tried on a different computer? 00.59.37 # yes, earlier today at school, it seemed to be working fine 00.59.53 # but I have to be able to use it on my home computer, that's where my music is, and where I have time to mess with it 01.00.16 # wow 01.00.30 # i just foudn the usb mode in rockbox o.o 01.00.36 # of course...it seems to be an issue with your computer...i forget what it is that triggers the okay to disconnect exactly 01.00.48 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-247-18.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.00.49 # maybe someone with a bit more apple knowledge can chime in 01.01.19 # bah, doesn't work in sim 01.01.23 # will HFS+ ipods ever be able to use rockbox? 01.01.33 # HFS? 01.01.34 # fiftyfour123: most likely not 01.01.41 # why not 01.01.51 # what is HFS+? 01.01.51 # RaiderX: apple's filesystem 01.01.52 # o 01.01.53 # just format them with win32? :/ 01.01.54 # k 01.02.00 # or does that not work? 01.02.08 # uh 01.02.09 # fat32. 01.02.10 # wtf. 01.02.12 # * luckz slaps self 01.02.13 # fiftyfour123: recent thread discussing this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6972.0 01.02.15 # erm, don't we have Mac OS install instructions too? 01.02.34 # midkay: you can use a fat32 ipod under mac os just fine 01.02.46 # ah, never mind. you should reformat it, right.. 01.02.47 # we do...but people for some odd reason want to have HFS supported 01.02.51 # freqmod: what's up with the Makefile define about sdl targets? 01.03.03 # FAT32 has really slow speeds on macs, i've tried it, its really slow 01.03.04 # whats the use of having it HFS? 01.03.06 # it won't happen, i can say that with 98% certainty.. 01.03.08 # oh 01.03.21 # well, you gotta make a sacrifice i guess 01.03.34 # midkay: that is what i said ;) 01.03.53 # scorche: well, not exactly, but so? 01.04.05 # so it wasnt necessary to say again! 01.04.16 # i thinkit was necessary 01.04.17 # gimme a second 01.04.25 # RaiderX: no it wasnt! 01.04.25 # its good to have 2 opinions 01.04.27 # i'd say "not likely" is different than "it's not gonna and i'm near-positive". 01.04.28 # =P 01.04.55 # midkay: that is my nice way of saying "i very much doubt it will ever happen" 01.05.08 # certainly different enough to warrant a mention. nobody in their right mind would spend so much time coding something that's going to be rejected and wasted. 01.05.13 # ok, we established the fact it aint gunna happen, next 01.05.36 # scorche: you should say what you mean next time instead of using your own little nice way of saying things, we don't know what's you-being-nice and what's truth :) 01.05.57 # alright...i will then 01.06.12 # um... okay... yay.. 01.06.19 # RaiderX: dont try to hush us...arguing is the only way i am able to talk to midkay now 01.06.22 # =( 01.06.33 # fiftyfour123: sadly the only mac I have here right now only has usb1, so.. it's not possibly for me to test anything 01.06.49 # "fighting on the internet is liek competing in the special olypics, even if you win, youre still a retard" 01.06.57 # i could test, but i dont know c or anything 01.07.09 # what is there to test? 01.07.11 # you're also a retard if you say "youre" and "liek" and "olypics" :) 01.07.16 # LOl 01.07.35 # what midkay said, actually. 01.07.42 # that not retarded 01.07.50 # thats typign too fast 01.07.53 # yes, that retarded! :( 01.07.56 # scorche: there is to test if writing to a FAT32 usb2 rockbox-using DAP via a usb2 mac is slow in any way 01.08.00 # i said, that retarded. 01.08.06 # "that retarded" lol 01.08.07 # midkay: that's 01.08.17 # ah 01.08.27 # scorche: you mean "raiderx: that's" 01.08.32 # omg... 01.08.36 # no 01.08.38 # you mean 01.08.47 # midkay: no i dont 01.08.50 # 01:08:27 < midkay> scorche: you mean "raiderx: that's" <- he indeed does 01.08.51 # "RaiderX: That's retarded" 01.08.51 Join webguest61 [0] (i=467f46f5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.08.52 # scorche: stfu 01.08.53 # if nobody noticed, it was actually me mocking him, not me typing stupidly on purpose.. 01.09.01 # :p 01.09.03 # that not retarded 01.09.06 # yes, that retarded! :( 01.09.08 # .. 01.09.18 # LOL 01.09.25 # who said it first, and who got called on it? 01.09.35 # midkay: yes yes you've won, next topic 01.09.38 # it may have been so, but i dont see why that should stop me from taking the rare opportunity to correct you 01.09.52 # scorche: ..that he does not need correction, maybe? 01.09.56 # +should stop you 01.10.06 # r we allowed to link to another server or is thtay looked down upon in here? 01.10.07 # alternatively -that +because 01.10.07 Quit webguest61 (Client Quit) 01.10.09 # because it was entirely intentional. it's not a correction if the person means to do it! 01.10.12 # haha. 01.10.14 # RaiderX: link to another server how? 01.10.18 # /server -m irc.draelen.co.uk -j #tux 01.10.25 # and then? 01.10.27 # type that and chat 01.10.27 # that is indeed frowned upon.. 01.10.28 # midkay: well, i tried =( 01.10.29 # .. 01.10.32 # :( 01.10.35 # :( upond me 01.10.37 Quit fiftyfour123 ("Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090921]") 01.10.40 # especially with no reason to go there. why? 01.10.45 # to chat 01.10.50 # I can't type that, RaiderX - well, my irc client would not understand a fucking bit of it 01.10.51 # lol 01.10.54 # oh, it's a random network and a random channel. i'm so COMPELLED to visit. 01.10.58 # luckz yes it will 01.11.03 # .. 01.11.08 # yes, random makes the world go round 01.11.13 Part LinusN 01.11.25 # midkay: I once heard giving up was a sign of strength 01.11.37 # I'm gonna be very very strong now. 01.11.54 # what the hell is this? 01.12.10 # in the newest build, the lower watermark for playback seems to have been raised drastically 01.12.24 # what watermark? 01.12.26 # anyone else noticed? 01.12.31 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.12.33 # watermark, preglow? 01.12.38 # pcm buffer 01.12.40 # preglow: it seems to go back to it's old level after you play a number of tracks... 01.12.49 # what watermark? 01.12.53 # playback now boosts all the bloody time 01.13.09 # RaiderX: pcm buffer level watermark, level at which playback boosts cpu 01.13.28 # ill jsu ignore it since i dunno what ur talkign about.. 01.13.33 # good idea 01.13.35 # * RaiderX goes in the corner 01.13.49 # can't be bothered to explain right now 01.13.52 # bedtime sneaking up :/ 01.13.52 # lol 01.13.57 # preglow: I still dont get the point of the word 'boost' there 01.14.06 # it just seems stupid. 01.14.40 # cpu boost? 01.14.44 # stupid how? 01.14.56 # luckz: it is the term used when the ipod "boosts" the cpu....the processors' speed is variable 01.15.21 # from a language-related point of view, I don't see how the device.. 'boosts' anything, much less how a watermark, which by definition is a static something, can actively boost anything, etc 01.15.37 # obo: still at the same watermark.... 01.16.14 # he wasnt saying it actively boosts anything...just that the point to where it turns up the MHz is lower than before 01.16.14 # preglow: is that restricted to specific files formats/codecs/bitrates? 01.16.21 # luckz: the CPU's speed is boosted. the watermark is static and when the PCM buffer gets below that STATIC mark, it *dynamically* boosts the CPU. 01.16.39 # I know how it works. 01.16.48 # clearly not. 01.16.52 # the watermark doesn't move. 01.16.53 # * luckz shrugs 01.16.55 # whatever you say. 01.17.00 # .. 01.17.13 # I say the watermark does not move. you tell me the watermark does not move. 01.17.34 # but whatever :) 01.17.47 # "how a watermark, which by definition is a static something, can actively boost anything" - you're saying it's not static? the watermark is a set level, and once some data gets below that set level, rockbox itself boosts the cpu. 01.18.15 # bharhgh1"#¤! 01.18.17 # .. 01.18.21 # cpu bloody boosts all the time during playback now 01.18.43 # I say "a watermark is static". then you repeat that for no good reason, and now you can't decide whether you want to claim that I said it's static or that I said it's non-static 01.18.59 # also, the backlight doesn't switch off 01.19.27 # doesn't switch off when? just doesn't? doesn't when you manually activate it with method X? 01.19.27 # it is static, and the way you worded that made it sound like you don't understand HOW it can be static - i'm clarifying that it is in fact static, but ROCKBOX detects the data getting below that set static watermark and boosts accordingly. the watermark "does" nothing. 01.19.38 # looks to me like rockbox is getting flakier 01.20.09 # preglow: i've had that backlight won't switch off once in a while.. try going to the backlight setting and then backing out, it should fix it. 01.20.16 # it did 01.20.23 # but it's not exactly a good sign... 01.20.38 # FWIW, i've had it several times before and not at all in the past month or month-and-a-half except once. 01.21.08 # preglow: no, I can't get it to change now either - seems set to approx 400k 01.22.55 Join JB [0] (n=JB@adsl-70-239-5-90.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 01.23.09 # cya all 01.23.12 Quit RaiderX ("If the log rolls over, we'll all be dead...") 01.23.37 # seriously, this scheduler prio stuff has to go on ipod 01.23.50 # gui is unusable when loaded 01.24.55 # obo: yes, 400k 01.25.00 # which is about 50% higher than it should be 01.25.16 # didn't it used to be around the 100-150 level? 01.25.18 # yes 01.26.59 Join Amien [0] (i=amien@s5591a0ed.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 01.27.36 # anyone knows why .. if i load some theme with a very background .. the screen has a little flicker in it? 01.28.07 # that would depend on which player you've got 01.28.24 # ipod video 01.28.35 # dunno, then 01.28.46 # it's not inconceivable, it depends on how the display works, but i don't know 01.29.28 # what do you mean with a 'very background'? what's the missing adjective? 01.29.47 # * amiconn didn't find any difference in gui usability with the new scheduler, on all of his targets 01.30.36 Quit obo ("bye") 01.31.25 # you haven't got a colour ipod :> 01.31.28 # what scheduler is this now? just how cpu time is managed? 01.31.37 # amiconn: the wheel is what really suffers 01.31.56 # The wheel is a pita anyway 01.32.05 # it's nice enough 01.32.08 # Not the handling in rockbox, but the wheel itself 01.32.13 # i prefer a slow wheel occasionally, to cutting out music. 01.32.18 # the wheel itself is very nice 01.32.23 # rockbox handling of it sucks rod 01.32.31 # just check out how nice it works in retailos 01.32.38 # you can browse bloody huge lists in a jiffy 01.32.43 # change volume over a huge range fast and nice 01.32.49 # we need accelleration. get on it, preglow. 01.32.53 # I can't; I've diteched retailos, and even if I didn't I couldn't really use it 01.32.56 # preglow doesn't do acceleration 01.33.01 # yes he does!! 01.33.12 # the only thing that annoys me about the scheduler is, that the turning on of the backlight has a noticeable delay with a wps with many graphics 01.33.14 # you try telling him! 01.33.34 # preglow: DO ACCELLERATION!!! 01.33.45 # uh, what? 01.33.46 # The wheel might allow to scroll fast, but scrolling _precise_ is almost impossible 01.33.49 # maybe it's backlight fading? 01.33.56 # amiconn: no, not really 01.34.08 # amiconn: you didn't try it anyway, so you wouldn't know 01.34.14 # turning the backlight on and off shouldn't have any delay at any point, i've never encountered it. 01.34.39 # I tried the retailos menus. That was enough 01.34.56 # amiconn: i'd rather have a fast but imprecise initial scroll and then some fine tuning than waiting for ages to do a long precise scroll 01.35.06 # no, you'd have to browse a song list of several hundred at least to really see how it works. 01.35.07 # doing that bloody gives you carpal tunnel syndrome in the end 01.35.25 # The fine tuning is what is so difficult with the wheel, and that's why I don't like it 01.35.36 # are we talking about old wheel or new wheel or what now? 01.35.39 # what kinda ipod? 01.35.48 # i had some initial getting used to it, then it worked fine from then on 01.35.53 # luckz: new, mostly 01.35.54 # Either it overshoots the destination with a tiny move of the finger, or it doesn't react at all 01.36.02 # preglow: does my ipod mini experience count not, then? 01.36.07 # luckz: yea 01.36.12 # in retailOS? it might feel that way.. i got used to it quickly though. 01.36.14 # yes it does or yes it doesn't? :p 01.36.22 # in rockbox i never seem to overshoot (partially because it goes so slow). 01.36.24 # luckz: does 01.36.32 # luckz: as in it counts 01.36.34 # heh 01.36.42 # midkay: In rockbox it overshoots practically all the time for me 01.36.50 # well, I had a 75/25 reliability rate in retailos with that 01.36.56 # basically it just seemed to fuck up sometimes 01.36.59 # for no good reason 01.37.06 # the wheel handling in rockbox sucks now nayway 01.37.08 # it sucks badly 01.37.16 # amiconn: hmm.. maybe it's different on the 5G because of the larger LCD thus slower LCD driver.. dunno. i always have to leave CPU boosted to have the wheel even usable, even then it's quite slow. 01.37.16 # and it's moderately hard to get where you actually want to be, while it's very easy to get into the general direction 01.37.23 # and it does so because i coded it 01.37.52 # preglow: i like it.. i never encounter the wheel locking up except for like one in ten times when i start a song up and it initially has to buffer. 01.38.03 # the wheel locked up on me ten minutes ago 01.38.19 # but that's got to be a different bug 01.38.25 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 01.38.30 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 01.38.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.39.12 # The wheel never locked up for me... but I don't know why, sometimes it simply doesn't react to my finger. I have the same problem with touchpads every now and then, it's not specific to the ipod wheel 01.39.20 # BARHGG 01.39.24 # That's one reason why I don't like those touch things 01.39.24 # backlight stuck again 01.39.38 # i hate touchpads 01.39.51 # I love touchpads! 01.40.15 # devices of the horned one 01.40.26 # using them makes me angry in an instant 01.41.05 # Well, while I don't like touchpads, if I have to choose between a touchpad and a trackpoint, I choose the touchpad 01.41.17 # midkay: with a wps like for example iCatcher it takes 1-2 seconds until the backlight is on after pressing a button. it is worse with a wps with album art. (this is on a h300) 01.41.24 # amiconn: in an instant 01.41.24 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 01.41.31 # i hate those things even more 01.42.27 # PaulJam: and it's not a fade? weird... 01.42.44 # PaulJam: What kind of iPod are you using? 01.43.08 # JB: he said it was on an iriver H300. 01.43.21 # ahh...then nevermind then 01.43.45 # on h300 there is no fading option. and when using the default wpd it comes up faster. 01.45.12 # backlight on is indeed very slow 01.45.26 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 01.47.11 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 01.47.22 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEDB7B.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.48.59 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 01.49.23 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.07 # petur: Under which conditions? 01.50.20 # * amiconn can't find any slowness in backlight on 01.51.19 Join ShadowdogMU [0] (n=Brock@cpe-65-28-252-205.woh.res.rr.com) 01.52.20 # Blah. 01.52.25 # amiconn: in the recording screen 01.52.33 # ah 01.52.45 # The screen I don't use normally... 01.52.54 # * amiconn tries 01.53.54 # hmm 01.54.18 # Doesn't seem significant to me. 01.54.54 # Maybe a bit slower than while playback 01.55.15 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-127-11-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.55.22 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.55.24 # (welcome back) 01.56.50 # Dunno whether it was always like that, or its due to the scheduler 01.57.12 # What's more obvious is that buffering now takes ages on ipod 01.57.12 Quit dan_a (Connection timed out) 01.57.48 # it used to be 'instant-on', I think it's due to scheduler + encoding framework 01.58.12 # (when they took the 's' out of KISS) 01.58.37 # Any word on the 5.5g's? 01.58.48 # The H300 backlight never was instant-on, looks like there is a small hardware delay, probably not from the backlight itself but from teh LCD start sequence 02.00.06 # yes, but _that_ delay is not significant 02.02.05 # * 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I enjoy every minute of it.") 04.00.23 # * jhMikeS hears splitting sounds 04.00.29 # anyone know if working treble / bass has been added to the g5 30gb ? 04.03.50 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 04.07.12 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.09.54 # Hey, anyone have a good way to convert bitmap images to hex (and/or vice-versa)? 04.10.42 Quit Ribs2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.14.19 Join l0de [0] (n=die@pool-71-249-96-159.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 04.14.42 Quit l0de () 04.14.53 Join Quazgaa [0] (i=quaz@m186.telcomplus.net) 04.14.57 Join wibbix [0] (n=wibbix@CPE-24-167-251-142.wi.res.rr.com) 04.15.47 # greetings, folks. 04.16.04 # Currently dealing with a memory remap issue for the gigabeat... 04.17.43 # Trying to do something simple: GPBDAT &= 0x7EF; 04.17.59 Part TrueJournals 04.18.13 # works fine. If I try to do the same after a remap, it appears the GB locks up. 04.18.43 # the tlb has the memory range defined (on top of itself). 04.18.58 # looking for suggestions on why this is happening. 04.19.39 # should also add that I tried without the memory range as well. 04.23.17 Join SereRokR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea2d8.e.strato-dslnet.de) 04.25.15 Join Abst [0] (n=Abst@unaffiliated/abst) 04.28.17 Quit XavierGr () 04.30.15 Quit Ribs (Nick collision from services.) 04.30.19 Join Ribs3 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 04.30.51 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=nn@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust546.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 04.34.26 Quit besonen_mobile__ (Connection timed out) 04.34.50 # I think I got it. 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09.49.00 # don't think so, but I only use it to stream my own music 09.49.07 # Teknomancer: what would be the point of that? it's a listening device, not a recorder. 09.49.18 # it doesn't have any storage 09.49.38 # Zagor to store what u listen to 09.49.42 # and play it back whenever u want 09.49.52 # because u cannot choose what u hear right ? 09.49.53 # Teknomancer: then use a program that do that 09.50.01 # Teknomancer: of course you can 09.50.10 # Zagor can u choose whatever song u want to listen? 09.50.16 # of course 09.50.24 # it's a DAP for your living room 09.50.24 # err 09.50.32 # Teknomancer: it streams *your own music* 09.50.32 # i thot its a streaming server 09.50.38 # oh LOL 09.50.43 # i thot internet music streamer 09.50.50 # it streams whatever 09.50.54 # it can receive those too 09.50.56 # you can listen to streams as well 09.51.03 # can u record internet streams? 09.51.11 # Teknomancer: there are lots of programs that can 09.51.11 # would be a cool way to obtain more music ;) 09.51.12 # no, that's not its' purpose 09.51.21 # Teknomancer: get streamripper 09.51.28 # Bagder yah but they're for the PC ... 09.51.33 # uh? 09.51.56 # nevermind 09.51.57 # this slimdevices server is for a hosted server too 09.55.06 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.56.07 # bagder: looks like kermit is behaving 09.56.17 # yes it does 09.56.26 # looking good 09.56.42 # we're below 6 minutes again 09.56.46 # heh 09.56.52 Quit Kohlrabi (Remote closed the connection) 09.56.54 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@frustrum.nosebud.de) 09.57.57 # to toooo to to to... mahna mahna to toooo to to to... :) still in my head.... 09.58.33 # i had the original mpg of that somewhere, but i must have burned it 09.58.33 # heh....you got it back in mine 09.58.42 # sorry 09.58.48 # i dont mind =) 09.59.01 # if i get bored, i can always open up my swedish chef folder 09.59.22 # petur: it's time to put on makeup, it's time to dress up right... 09.59.43 # lol 10.00.00 # LinusN: i happened to notice a patch in the tracker where you commented you could commit it right away, it's from about a month ago :) 10.00.03 # it's the rockbox show 10.00.12 # Mikachu: which one? 10.00.32 # 6052 10.01.04 Quit sawo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.01.25 # ah, that one 10.01.42 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.03.21 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/lang-features.patch 10.09.42 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.10.31 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 10.11.18 Quit Landus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.13.41 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@wormhole.domicilium.com) 10.15.22 Join Landus [0] (n=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 10.17.05 # Bagder: ok, so how does features.txt look like? 10.17.26 # #ifdef HAVE_RECORDING 10.17.29 # recording 10.17.30 # #endif 10.17.47 # and so on 10.18.11 # then you can do strings in the lang file like this: 10.18.20 # recording: "oooh now we record" 10.18.22 # *: "" 10.19.45 # feature-oriented instead of target-oriented 10.19.52 # or rather in addition to 10.22.40 # * dan_a is dead proud 10.22.59 # Searching for my name on LWN gives a result! 10.23.50 # 3 results for "Feltzing" :-) 10.24.48 # dan_a: you're welcome! ;-P 10.25.21 # * LinusN is debugging the last.fm patch 10.25.54 # There's (another) big piece singing the praises of Rockbox in this week's news 10.26.20 # LinusN: it's that broken? 10.26.48 # it's not always saving the first played song 10.27.14 Join dpro [0] (n=dpro@80.109.121.47) 10.27.53 # ah, yes, I had a dig around playback.c awhile ago, but didn't manage to fix it 10.28.07 # FS=5495 10.28.45 # dan_a: URL? 10.29.32 # Bagder: http://lwn.net/Articles/204130/ (but it's subscriber-only at the moment) 10.30.53 # dan_a: I just joined what would it say there if I was subscribed ? 10.31.38 Quit Teknomancer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.32.12 # It's the front page of this week's LWN, with a fairly big piece about how upgrading firmware can take away features of your DAP, and how Rockbox is great 10.33.12 Join Teknomancer [0] (n=Teknoman@59.144.27.164) 10.33.52 # the zen -fm recording thing? 10.34.11 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 10.34.46 # dan_a: ah ok, but we know that already ;) 10.38.55 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-106-020.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.43.37 # pondlife: Keeping the sleep(1) in your commit would have been better 10.44.01 # Why? 10.44.16 # The progress bar surely doesn't need several hundreds of updates per second, and we do want to save battery, right? 10.44.20 # OK 10.44.31 # I mean in place of the yield(9 10.44.37 # *yield() 10.45.15 # Yep. Why not sleep elsewhere rather than yield()..? 10.45.46 # because you don't want to sleep? 10.45.52 # When a thread can make sure that it doesn't need to run for a while, it should always sleep instead of yield 10.46.10 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.46.29 # The 'while' can only be selected in ticks 10.46.41 # ticks are not ms then... 10.46.49 # * pondlife learns more every day 10.47.38 # a tick is (1000/HZ) ms 10.47.39 # No, ticks happen HZ times per second, with HZ == 100 since I don't know when 10.48.36 # I think I may have made the same mistake in the past too. I'll check... 10.48.46 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 10.50.42 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.51.26 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-151-1-19-8.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.51.53 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.52.33 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 10.54.02 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p548484B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.57.07 # Nope, just the once. Now fixed. Thanks for the heads up. 10.57.43 # commit mails are a good thing 10.59.52 Quit mordov|wo ("The amount of experience you have is paralell with the amount of equipment you have ruined.") 11.02.21 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.02.31 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 11.05.52 # funny how slimdevices actually makes money and goes for 20MUSD while youtube makes no money and goes for 1650 MUSB 11.06.36 # * dan_a whistles the dot com crash theme tune 11.07.11 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 11.08.49 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 11.09.37 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host148-139.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 11.11.52 Join webguest40 [0] (i=54a362a8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e4c5bbe542903741) 11.11.54 # playback.c ninjas: what exactly is the argument to the track_changed callback? is it the metadata of the track that was skipped, or the track that will play next? 11.12.35 Quit _FireFly_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.12.35 Quit webguest40 (Client Quit) 11.14.54 # LinusN: Sorry, I don't know 11.15.12 # i believe it is the upcoming track 11.15.18 # makes sense after all 11.16.10 # audio_check_new_track() actually increments track_ridx, hence updating CUR_TI... 11.16.34 # So as long as Q_AUDIO_TRACK_CHANGED happens after Q_AUDIO_CHECK_NEW_TRACK you are right. 11.17.12 # Yep. You're right 11.17.53 # i think i found the first-track scrobbler bug 11.18.06 # No callback... 11.18.16 # no, not that 11.19.10 # but there is another related bug, that audio_preinit() is called after USB mode, and that does clear the callback 11.19.24 # nasty 11.19.43 # Hmm, audio_preiinit() should be a one-off. 11.20.00 # hmmm, wait a sec 11.21.18 # i was wrong 11.21.22 # Would it be potentially possible to have USB and playback at the same time? I would think that desirable. 11.22.02 # Obviously there's a can of worms there, but USB code shouldn't be impacting on playback code as much as it does. 11.22.17 # well, if the playback doesn't use the hdd 11.22.39 # *dang* - fixed it 11.22.54 # Ah, so not possible to have USB contolled-HDD accessible from Rockbox. 11.23.23 # * pondlife can't type properly until lunchtime. 11.23.37 # me neither, nor after lunchtime 11.23.47 # lol 11.23.55 # it's either rockbox or the USB chip that has access to the hdd 11.24.07 # OK, I wasn't sure if that was an Archos-only thing. 11.24.37 # I always suspect anything I read in the wiki as being potentially Archos-centric. 11.24.49 # pondlife: well, the player could fill up the playback buffer before enabling usb mode and then continue playback until the buffer is empty :) 11.25.12 # True. Then stop through starvation. 11.25.25 # it would allow to load more songs to the player without interrupting playback 11.25.35 # Either way, calling audio_preinit() again seems a bad idea. 11.25.47 # I wonder what it needs to initialise? 11.25.47 # hmm, that is called? 11.25.53 # that should not be done 11.26.13 # it is then very wrong indeed.. 11.26.23 # Slasheri: Did you see that apparently the white noise happens in the sim, but only if logf is disabled! 11.26.23 # that may have caused usb mode to lock down player 11.26.34 # hmm, weird 11.26.40 # I'm currently running a non-logf build to see if I can repro. 11.26.50 # So very much looks like a race condition. 11.26.53 # :( 11.27.44 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-232-64.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 11.27.48 # is the increase in the pcm watermark (to about 400k) intentional? 11.29.08 # Not as far as I know. lostlogic? 11.29.31 # obo: Any idea roughly when this changed? 11.30.09 # I think I first noticed it about a week ago, when testing the COP patch 11.31.04 # wow... got a mail back from the author of the isp1362 usb sample code. License is ok, he had a look at rockbox and he feels proud his code can/will be used there. He says I can mail him if I need help ;) 11.31.15 # cool 11.31.44 # ok, anyone against committing the last.fm patch? 11.31.58 # not at all 11.31.59 # Nope 11.32.42 # okidoki, fasten your seat belts 11.32.44 # LinusN: curious, how much does it add to rombox? 11.32.52 # scorche: a LOT!!!! ;-) 11.32.56 # hehe 11.32.59 # amiconn changed nick? 11.33.00 # seriously! 11.33.07 # pfft! 11.33.12 # scorche: i don't really know, a few hundred bytes i guess 11.33.18 # * pondlife watches helplessly as amiconn weeps 11.33.43 # alright...i am not as scared as he is ;) 11.34.00 # goodbye tagcache, and hello rombox and plenty of space! 11.34.16 # i think we are beyond optimizing to reduce the rombox footprint 11.34.17 # (sorry Slasheri) 11.34.38 # removing features is the only way to go imho 11.35.04 # i might have to start an unofficial build for rombox 11.35.42 # or even just a patch 11.36.17 # there is one file that can be cleaned up/optimized, and that is bookmark.c 11.36.31 # but yes, i am of the same feeling as you LinusN largely 11.36.55 # * scorche drags "largely" to the correct place 11.38.36 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.39.06 # * scorche gets back to being lazy and watching episodes of the outer limits 11.39.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.39.42 Quit Teknomancer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.45.47 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 11.46.54 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.48.30 # btw, was there every anything about .cue support? 11.48.51 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 11.49.03 # luckz: well, it's a bitch to implement and we have yet to see a strong argument for it 11.49.15 # or an easy way to implement it 11.50.07 # software players seem to manage it. 11.50.15 # foobar does it natively, winamp does it with a plugin 11.50.23 # luckz: what does that have to do with rockbox? 11.50.34 # well, "I'd like to play the music on my pc on my X5" 11.50.50 # LinusN: the only strong argument for it would be, many users would like to have it (I personally don't btw) 11.51.00 # for things like trance mixes or mixtapes or whatever, it's useful to do .cue things for extreme gaplessness and whatnot 11.51.01 # Genre9mp3: exactly 11.51.31 # the thing is that it is tricky to implement in rockbox 11.51.36 # luckz: How is "extreme gaplessness" any more gapless than "wholly gapless"? 11.51.50 # either it is gapless or it is not 11.51.55 # You can't have any more "no gaps" than "no gaps" 11.51.57 # Paul_the_Nerd: lol 11.52.10 # extremely impossible 11.52.56 # please... don't mind the gapless gap! :P 11.53.33 # .cue support, and multistream containers is tricky to implement because of the "one file one track" nature of rockbox 11.53.44 # I sadly right now don't remember whether my rockbox machine ever did any form of gapless or whether there are audible pauses. 11.54.02 # luckz: I use this tool to split files with a cue sheet: http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/home.php 11.54.02 # one file one track also basically tends to be the case in foobar, yet .cue/multistream *playback* works perfectly there 11.54.32 # markun: thanks, is that 'lossless'? 11.54.38 # mp3directcut also can split files using cue sheets 11.54.39 # of course 11.54.55 # wasn't there something about lossless mp3 splitting being problematic/hard to do/impossible? 11.55.05 # luckz: no 11.55.17 # splitting is totally seamless 11.55.35 # I thought I read something along those lines in #foobar2000, but I might of course be mixing things up 11.55.38 # * Genre9mp3 also wonders how tagcache would work with cue sheets 11.55.39 # so first, extremely gapless, and now lossless mp3 =) 11.55.42 # the only thing is that is splits on a frame boundary which may not be exactly the same as the original track 11.55.53 # luckz: it only get's problematic if you do mp3->wave..cutting..wave->mp3 11.56.03 # of course, dpro 11.56.34 # there are a few ways of implementing multistream in rockbox 11.56.37 # do I want Mp3splt or Mp3splt-gtk? 11.56.48 # LinusN: thank you for the commit 11.56.55 # 1) treat the container as one large track with index points 11.57.14 # 2) treat each part of the container as a single track 11.57.30 # 1) is probably the simplest, but has lots of limitations 11.57.38 # LinusN: in apps/scrobbler.c, line 55, is it possible to automagically insert the revision of the file? (ie currently 1.1) 11.57.54 # My vote's always been for #1 anyway. 11.58.06 # I think MPC does the first of those for mp4 nultistream things 11.58.13 # luckz: that depends if you need a gui or not, but probably you want -gtk 11.58.21 # oké 11.58.24 # A limited implementation is better than none, and I think most people who want to use a .cue want it to play sequentially anyway 11.58.55 # mhm, I'd like a .cue for the ability to have both sequent. and non-seq. playback 11.59.31 # can't you do that with files anyway? 11.59.41 # with mp3split ones, yes 11.59.47 # * Genre9mp3 never seen a multistream audio file 11.59.51 # Genre9mp3: want a few? 12.00.01 # http://luckz.de/files/music/ 12.00.35 # obo: i wonder if we can do like this: 12.00.38 # #define SCROBBLER_VERSION "$Revision$" 12.00.47 # luckz: interesting... I guess foobar support these files, right? 12.00.58 # it will still contain the $ chars though 12.01.10 # luckz: btw I love the Amon Amarth one! ;) 12.01.34 # Genre9mp3: WMP treats them as single song; MPC treats them as single song with subsongs; foobar treats them as lots of songs, depending on how many the album has 12.01.57 # I should add the bonus disc for that amon amarth thing :p 12.01.57 # LinusN: I wasn't entirely sure what $Revision$ returned, so I didn't put that into the file... but if that will do the job :) 12.02.23 # LinusN: It's just so that the last.fm guys will be able to track down any issues and point to a specific version 12.02.35 # well, or we change it manually when we introduce an incompatibility 12.02.48 # if you try to do a left/right nudge on the pitch screen when at the top/bottom of the pitch scale, the behaviour currently bugs. what would be the preffered way to handle this? ignore nudge at the top/bottom part of the scale, or cap the nudge? 12.02.57 Quit idnar (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12.03.09 # knowing the last.fm people a bit, what obo says makes major sense/seems very wantable 12.03.11 # preglow: "cap" the nudge? 12.03.37 # luckz: ok 12.03.37 Join zzap [0] (i=zzap@zzaps.com) 12.03.42 # meeps 12.03.43 # Paul_the_Nerd: well, yeah, if you're at 199%, the nudge should be 1% up to 200% 12.04.10 # instead of 2% 12.05.02 # obo: the 1.0 is the version of the file format specification 12.05.07 # "Where 1.0 is the version for this file format (there may be revisions to the format later)" 12.05.30 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.05.30 # preglow: Is there an easy way to ensure you can always get back to 100%? 12.05.48 # Paul_the_Nerd: reset the pitch? i think so 12.06.08 # LinusN: it's the "#CLIENT/", 3rd line of the header 12.06.09 # obo: ah, there are two 12.06.10 # preglow: I'd be all for capping as long as it doesn't shift you so that when trying to land on 100 you always land on 101 or 99 12.06.34 # LinusN: yes, I added the third to the spec after speaking to the last.fm folks a few months ago 12.06.44 # Paul_the_Nerd: it really should be just like it is now, except for non-buggy handling of the very upper/lower pitches 12.07.00 # preglow: I don't use it, so I don't know how it is now. :) 12.07.11 # luckz: It handles it as a single file... and actually it's like Oggpreview 12.07.48 # preglow/Paul: isn't it possible to just have some silly reset key to get back to 100%? 12.07.52 # btw, does anyone know when the low pcm buffer watermar got effectively shifted almost to the top of the buffer? 12.07.56 # luckz: there is one, afaik 12.08.55 # luckz: I was talking about multistream tracks (where you can switch to alternative versions during playback) not tracks one after the other 12.09.27 # ah, like how a video file with multiple audio tracks works? 12.09.56 # luckz: yes 12.10.02 # what's the practical use of that, what is it used for, which programs/encoders/.. support it? 12.10.08 # having an audio book in multiple languages or so? 12.10.30 # a track as acapella, instrumental and normal version in one file? :p 12.10.53 # A use I can imagine would be (listen to only vocals/ only guitar, etc.) But as I said I've never seen such files 12.11.16 # karaoke! :) 12.11.45 # and I don't know if they even exist.... It's just how I understood the word "multistream" when Linus mentioned it 12.12.06 # Linus, some clarification on that? :p 12.13.01 # well, someone spoke about .ogg being able to contain several tracks 12.13.06 # Some sort of proper functionality with multiple streams per file would be neat though, since we've now to at least 2 formats in Rockbox, and one in the tracker, that can have more than one song in a single file. 12.13.07 # well, formats like mkv use it a lot for video streams....separate streams for video and/or audio 12.13.45 # mhm. 12.13.51 # feature request: watching mkv movies :p 12.13.54 # sorry. 12.14.22 # An example I know of is Metallica's S&M DVD, where you could either listen to the band only, the orchestra only or both 12.14.28 # and yes, I'm fully aware that a mkv file is but a container and can contain just about every kind of content. 12.14.31 # mhm 12.14.43 # how does that sound, on a somewhat unrelated note? 12.14.45 # in mkv, it is mostly just for different languages 12.14.50 # the orchestra only, playing metallica 12.15.15 # Paul_the_Nerd: Which formats are in Rockbox that support multistream? 12.15.52 # Genre9mp3: Ogg/Vorbis, and SID 12.15.56 # luckz: To tell you the truth.. I didn't like S&M at all! :) 12.15.56 # At the very least. 12.16.41 # pondlife: any ideas? 12.16.51 # * Genre9mp3 wonders how he could create a multistream Ogg 12.17.02 # * Genre9mp3 googles 12.17.13 # Genre9mp3: cat file1.ogg file2.ogg > file3.ogg 12.17.58 # markun: eh? 12.18.08 Quit petur ("lunch") 12.18.25 # preglow: Sorry, been away - ideas about what? 12.18.39 # markun: where do I do this? 12.18.51 # Genre9mp3: Linux only 12.19.07 # aliask: FreeBSD works also :) 12.19.12 # Well... unix. 12.19.13 # Windows user here :/ 12.19.21 # cygwin? 12.19.27 # cygwin and vmware should do it as well 12.19.33 # Is BSD unix? 12.19.44 # aliask: variant 12.19.46 # Genre9mp3: but this will be sequential multistream.. 12.20.29 # markun: I would be interested in a "parallel" multistream 12.20.37 # Does ogg support such thing? 12.21.03 # Well, the Ogg container should since it allows for multiple audio tracks with a video, right? 12.21.31 # yes 12.22.05 # yes... the ogg container should... but maybe it expects a video stream as well? 12.22.08 # with matroska you can use mkvmerge to do this. Don't know what the name of the Ogg tool is.. 12.23.14 Part pondlife ("back later") 12.23.45 # mr secret in that tracker entry 12.24.01 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.24.33 # That's one way to make sure you can't be Googled for! 12.24.56 # Yes... it supports it: http://xiph.org/vorbis/doc/oggstream.html 12.25.02 # o_o 12.25.03 # Mr Secret? 12.25.13 # sequential multiplexing/concurrent multiplexing 12.25.18 # the guy posting his name as a URL to a temporary image showing it 12.25.23 # pondlife: the pcm buffer watermark level seems to have gone drastically up 12.25.31 # argh 12.26.06 # I guess daurn has a friend there ;-) 12.26.38 # haahahha 12.27.02 # if you're _that_ afraid of being googled, you should just not use the net 12.27.33 # i get the feeling that his name won't end up in the CREDITS file 12.28.04 # * LinusN resists the urge to write his name here so it ends up in the IRC log 12.28.19 # hehe 12.28.32 # Genre9mp3: yes...like i said...it does...sorry for being so brief...getting ready for bed =) 12.28.49 # not sure if theora can or not 12.29.05 # but a google for ogg muxer should turn up a probram or 2 12.29.20 # scorche: sure... thanx ;) 12.29.23 # s/probram/program 12.30.49 # LinusN: boosting more often than necessary _would_ eat more battery despite total boost time probably staying more or less the same, yes? 12.31.58 # i don't think so, but you lose a few milliseconds of busy wait for every PLL change 12.32.18 # so you end up wasting cpu cycles waiting for the pll to lock 12.32.29 # true, i guess 12.32.38 # pcm watermark seems to have gone up drastically for some reason 12.32.47 # and i find myself suspecting slasheri's scheduler unboost 12.33.05 # he's a popular scape goat nowadays :-) 12.33.18 # can't think of any other likely culprits 12.33.28 # a good scape goat is a must for a project like ours 12.35.20 # Bagder, what do you think about adding a Archos, Ipod,... group to the target list in flyspray? 12.36.51 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.37.07 # Genre9mp3: just to clear one other thing up in case you got confused, when i say ogg, i mean ogg and not ogg vorbis ;) 12.38.11 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 12.38.51 # preglow: Sorry, no idea about the watermark level. 12.39.17 # Also, I still can't repro the white noise, in a sim with no logf. 12.39.32 # preglow: The PCM watermark changed from NATIVE_FREQUENCY * 6 to NATIVE_FREQUENCY * 8 in v1.61 of pcmbuf.c 12.40.08 # scorche: don't worry, I know the difference between ogg and vorbis 12.40.44 # alright...just making sure, as i typically assume many things when i talk, and it gets people confused/on the wrong track 12.41.51 # btw... I just downloaded OggMux... I'll try to play with it and see what I can result 12.43.39 # heh...dont have to worry if it supports it by the name at least...have fun 12.46.16 # dan_a: doesn't sound like enough, though 12.47.28 # hmm 12.47.40 # hmmm... As I thought... OggMux expects a video stream, too 12.48.04 # not to mention that it tries output to .ogm 12.48.12 # ^to output 12.48.34 # preglow: Back in April it was NATIVE_FREQUENCY * 4, so it's been creeping up. 12.48.39 # "Just select the directory and modify the filename as you like. ".ogm" is added automatically if you don't specify another suffix for the file. " 12.48.52 # dan_a: apparently, and it used to work fine at a low level, so i wonder what's up 12.49.40 # what word should I use for "." character? Full stop, dot, ..? 12.50.02 # I get always confused with the ogg/ogm thing 12.50.21 # tucoz: depends on the context, i guess 12.51.09 # yes. the context is what the . in front of files and directories in *NIX should be called. 12.51.22 # that is, files/folders hidden by rockbox 12.51.27 # then i'd call it "dot" 12.51.35 # or period, perhaps 12.51.43 # files starting with a "." (period) ... 12.51.44 # but i'd use dot in that context 12.52.03 # hmm. period sounds better than dot 12.52.04 # I much prefer dot 12.52.06 # i think that's what they're called anyway 12.52.08 # ok 12.52.17 # thanks. a dot it is then :) 12.52.23 # Period is american english anyway. 12.52.34 # aha 12.52.44 # Period isn't used much in English english. Not to mean that anyway. 12.52.50 # is that so 12.52.55 # then by all means, dot 12.52.56 # heh 12.53.10 # "Dot" at the start. "Full stop" at the end. 12.53.26 # And "point" when indicating a decimal place. 12.53.31 # E.g "This must be resolved right now, full stop." 12.53.39 # Yes 12.53.56 # pondlife: filename- full stop- mp3? 12.54.01 # dot 12.54.01 # or filename dot mp3? 12.54.19 # i get it 12.55.49 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-151-1-19-8.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.56.16 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@mail.ukrcard.com.ua) 13.06.43 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.11.36 Quit damaki (Remote closed the connection) 13.14.39 Join didj [0] (n=foo@203-59-114-244.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.15.06 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]") 13.23.43 Join BjoernErik [0] (n=unknown@67.80-202-110.nextgentel.com) 13.24.29 # Hmm, is it ,me or is SWCODEC A-B repeat completely broken? 13.25.10 # pondlife, ipod? 13.25.15 # H300 sim 13.25.37 # The repeated section bears no relationship to the progress bar, at least 13.25.45 # ok. I am not sure, but it is impossible to use A-B on ipods. Still, the option is there in the menu. 13.26.30 Quit Bjoern-Erik (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.26.47 # And I just crashed the sim... 13.30.22 # dont suppose you know if the H300 can detect the stock (non-lcd) remote being plugged in? the ADC_REMOTE variables dont seem to change unless a button is pushed.. 13.33.04 # Anyone know the status of the iPod CPU freq scaling patch? It does seem to be beneficial according to the reports on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6095. 13.33.24 Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=unknown@67.80-202-110.nextgentel.com) 13.33.39 # didj: the non-lcd remote should work fine 13.34.19 # ya, works fine, but is there a way to detect presence ? 13.34.46 # (want to be able to change settings based on presence of a remote) 13.35.08 # LinusN: and a surprise from mister hidden-name 13.35.44 Quit BjoernErik (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.36.05 # hmm, i need to get a player with a rtc to add rtc functionality to tagcache.. for example browse all tracks played 7 days ago etc. :) 13.36.20 # Slasheri: get a nano! 13.36.20 # pondlife, unless i do something wrong, A-B is broken for me on h120 as well 13.36.21 # preglow: i am actually a little surprised 13.36.34 # preglow: that would probably do it :) 13.36.34 # me too 13.36.50 # preglow: and then i could debug that scrollwheel and scheduler also 13.36.52 # Slasheri: anywho, why has the pcm buffer watermark been raised so drastically? 13.37.21 # preglow: not sure if it has been raised once again, but it should improve ui response on ipods 13.37.41 # because the cpu is boosted more frequently? 13.37.47 # pondlife, I press play+left and play+right to set the markers 13.37.49 # it hasn't been raised since you did so last 13.37.51 # but nothing happens 13.37.58 # Slasheri: anyway, wouldn't it be wise to just raise it on ipods? 13.38.14 # preglow: buffer is kept full, so scheduler doesn't immediately change priorities when using ui 13.38.15 # pondlife: the cpufreq patch works well in testing on the H10 anyway 13.38.24 # preglow: yes, probably 13.38.27 # It seems silly to use the PCM buffer as a means of boosting the CPU for UI responsiveness. 13.38.28 # h120, for example, has never had any trouble in that regard 13.38.29 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 13.38.42 # I mean, if you wanted a responsive UI you would've just left it permanently boosted, right? 13.38.53 # preglow: and all raising by me has been made by a guess because i don't have a real target to test 13.39.00 # I'm just hoping that some of the iPod playback bugs will magically go away when the CPU freq patch is committed... 13.39.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.39.24 # Paul_the_Nerd: Or maybe raise the normal speed 13.39.52 # the wheel is still a bitch to use anyway 13.40.08 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-149-50.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 13.40.15 Quit MadDog011 (Remote closed the connection) 13.40.28 Quit daurn (Excess Flood) 13.40.59 # What's the main downside of the higher watermark? Boosting too often? 13.41.01 # dan_a: I imagine once dual core support is working properly some elbow room for improving the UI responsiveness during playback will show up anyway. 13.41.55 # Hey, could the scheduler be what's causing it to not run any faster with two cores? Is it involved at all? 13.42.10 # would anyone know why pitch_screen_draw is called for nudge on but not nudge off in the pitch screen? 13.42.31 # pondlife: wasting more time waiting for pll relock 13.42.58 # Paul_the_Nerd: might be, i haven't check the dual core implementation 13.43.03 # +ed 13.43.20 Join daurn [0] (n=nnnquae@124.243.137.107) 13.43.21 # I don't think the scheduler should be involved. What happens is that instead of having one list of threads, we have two, one for each core 13.44.35 # And I *think* there ought to be a separate scheduler running on each core 13.45.39 # But I did all this work before Slasheri made his changes, so things might work differently now. I haven't spotted anything that would cause a problem, though. 13.46.43 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 13.47.20 # obo: care to write a few lines about last.fm logging in the manual? 13.47.49 # LinusN: You mentioned earlier a fix regarding the track callback. Does this resolve http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5495 ? 13.47.49 Join bluebrother [0] (i=810dba04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.48.04 # LinusN: I'll see if I can come up with something suitable 13.48.12 Quit barrywardell () 13.49.48 # pondlife: i haven't found a playback.c bug, but i did find a bug in the scrobbler code that didn't save the first entry in the log 13.50.06 # so there might still be a playback bug 13.50.15 # OK 13.50.36 # I'm looking for something to take my mind off white noise. 13.50.38 # now we need a cgi for submitting logs to last.fm 13.50.47 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-151-1-19-8.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.51.06 # pondlife: are you on windows or linux? 13.51.15 # * Genre9mp3 found an interesting multistream ogg file 13.51.21 # http://www.nospermzone.de/downloads/german.ogg 13.51.21 # Cygwin 13.51.44 # So there must be a way that you can create such a file 13.51.49 # Anyone know what PaulJam runs? 13.51.53 # pondlife: you can always dig into the SDL startup code to enable stdout/stderr on the console 13.52.17 # that's not hard 13.52.20 # Why would tthat help? 13.52.23 # just build the program as a console app 13.52.31 # -mconsole 13.52.52 # would anyone take it amiss if my code assumes nudge left/right can never happen at once? :> 13.53.05 # I quite like the UI thanks! 13.53.31 # ui's still there 13.53.53 # I'm very confused. Why should I want a console app? 13.54.23 # wouldn't know, just read what linusn said :> 13.54.37 # Ah, LinusN..? Help my poor brain... 13.54.45 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 13.54.48 # the DEBUGF output on stderr 13.54.51 # * amiconn spots another of those esoteric features in cvs :/ 13.55.18 # * obo was waiting for amiconn to notice :/ 13.55.39 # * pondlife hides behind a rock 13.55.53 # :/ 13.56.02 # preglow: http://www.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl/2002-February/042152.html 13.56.51 # Imho it's strange enough that people need a database for tracking what they're listening to... 13.56.52 # LinusN: if you compile with -mconsole WinMain isn't used so redirection never happens 13.57.22 # ...and now even putting that info on an external database??? 13.57.39 # obo, is the scrobbler logging described in the wiki? 13.57.44 # preglow: that means recompiling sdl, right? 13.57.45 # * preglow pats different usage patterns on the head 13.57.48 # LinusN: nope 13.57.49 # amiconn: the suggestion features are quite handy... 13.57.53 # LinusN: just don't link in libsdlmain 13.58.07 # tucoz: not on the rb wiki 13.58.10 # preglow: care to submit a patch? 13.58.26 # obo, do you have a link to a description? 13.58.28 # LinusN: perhaps, i'd just need to fix my laptop windows installation first 13.58.43 # i don't really use windows anymore these days 13.59.01 # obo: What suggestion features? 13.59.05 # tucoz: there is a tech spec here: http://www.audioscrobbler.net/wiki/Portable_Player_Logging 13.59.05 # amiconn: the last.fm idea is not about tracking your habits 13.59.07 Quit [H5N1] (Remote closed the connection) 13.59.34 # amiconn: it's about last.fm analyzing your habits and suggesting music based on your taste 13.59.40 # amiconn: it will suggest artists you may like based on your listening history 13.59.45 # something it never quite pulled off in my case, heh 13.59.55 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED819.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.00.39 Join [H5N1] [0] (i=mrflu@laggy.us) 14.04.20 Join webguest37 [0] (i=549952f0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.05.23 # i suppose last fm is only usefull if you listen to the same songs often, if your music taste is eclectic it's of no use, 14.06.03 # * petur checks the last time preglow used lastfm and understands why 14.06.15 # Slasheri: Is there any chance you could write an idiot's guide to the scheduler and put it in the Wiki? 14.07.21 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB37CBD.ipt.aol.com) 14.09.56 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.09.59 Part webguest37 14.10.01 Part TrueJournals 14.10.21 # it even started bugging out and counting wrongly 14.11.01 # yeah, they've had issues but it seems to be working much better the last months 14.11.24 # * amiconn wonders how this recommendation stuff could work 14.11.53 # amiconn: they look at what other users listen too and what you have in common 14.12.18 # That most likely won't work for me 14.12.34 # amiconn: On a vaguely related note (though unrelated to Rockbox entirely) have you tried Pandora then? 14.12.35 # you can always try 14.13.40 # * petur remembers pandora as being his ISP 14.14.17 # Heheh 14.15.01 # does any current target allow left/right nudge at the same time in the pitch screen? 14.15.04 # archos? 14.15.14 # Pandora is nice as a concept 14.15.25 # pwd 14.15.59 # Though it is irritating that it has a limitation on track skips/hour 14.18.06 # Yeah, but that's tied to the licenses they have on the music so you can't just use it as a play-on-demand system for any music you like. 14.18.10 # Irritating but fairly understandable 14.18.18 # dan_a: as soon as i have some time.. :) 14.18.48 # Thanks! 14.19.35 # Paul_the_Nerd: Sure... it's just that sometimes you may get stuck on a song you don't like 14.19.40 # * preglow thumps amiconn 14.20.00 # Paul_the_Nerd: but as I said, I like the whole idea 14.20.00 # preglow: left and right simultaneously? 14.20.20 # Genre9mp3: Does the skip limit apply to thumbs down as well? 14.20.35 # LinusN: yes 14.20.37 # I think yes 14.20.57 Join Quazgaa_ [0] (i=quaz@m226.telcomplus.net) 14.21.13 # not sure though...it's been some time since I last used Pandora so I may be wrong here 14.21.14 # preglow: no, that is physically impossible on the v1 and electrically impossible on the others 14.21.34 # LinusN: do you know of any of our platforms that allow it? 14.21.43 # no, not really 14.22.20 Quit Quazgaa (Nick collision from services.) 14.22.25 # preglow: *but*, you may be able to push Left on the remote and Right on the main device 14.22.26 Nick Quazgaa_ is now known as Quazgaa (i=quaz@m226.telcomplus.net) 14.22.27 # ipod seems to allow it 14.23.34 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 14.24.24 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp193-65.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.24.43 Quit lost|X40 ("Leaving") 14.25.15 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.232.64) 14.26.07 Join revelation_ [0] (n=revelati@p3EE2359C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.28.55 Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") 14.29.30 # Hi, I've a problem with my iPod Nano (first generation): While running RockBox plugging in the USB-connection results in a restart an connects the IPod to my computer - fine. But: The connection speed is very low compared with the speed when I connect the iPod while running the original firmware. The second difference is that the screen shows only black and while graphics and not the beautiful colors of the original firmware. Does 14.29.30 # anyone know how to fix that? 14.30.02 # no, we don't know how to 14.30.04 # yet 14.30.29 # ah, ok. Thank you. 14.30.38 # revelation_: Rockbox reboots into the iPods emergency disk mode, and no the Nano that mode seems to be bugged to be terribly slow. 14.31.01 # it's dead slow on all ipods, i think 14.31.15 # it is 14.31.18 # also it's horribly bugged 14.31.26 # displaying an empty battery icon all the time 14.31.39 Part pondlife ("lunch") 14.32.23 # let's hope MrH finds out how to solve it 14.32.39 # of course he will 14.33.00 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 14.33.04 # another question: I've created a patch for RockBox that adds a new option (enable crossfading always BUT on manual track skip). Where can I submit it to and will it be appreciated? 14.33.04 Quit Lord (Client Quit) 14.33.45 # the patch tracker 14.34.03 Quit Amien (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.34.12 # LinusN: thanks 14.34.31 # markun: I'm not sure what "cat file1.ogg file2.ogg > file3.ogg" actually does... It seems that indeed it creates an ogg with 2 different vorbis streams (though in foobar only the first is played, the second is ignored) though when I try to decode it to wav (with Oggdrop) I get a single wav file with both streams one after the other 14.34.44 # revelation_: similar to this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5344 14.35.19 # I was expecting to get 2 different wav files (corresponding to the 2 different vorbis streams) 14.36.42 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493126B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.37.51 # LinusN: my solution is not that flexible. It just adds a new option as I described 14.38.13 # Genre9mp3: if foobar doesn't read the second, it's broken 14.38.22 # Genre9mp3: catting ogg files is perfectly legal 14.38.39 # the file is broken you mean? 14.38.43 # foobar 14.39.04 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 14.39.24 # I found another multistream on the net and I had no problems with it 14.39.43 # It played all streams (11! of them)... 14.40.03 # The scrobbler commit adds 1558 bytes to the recorder build :( 14.40.15 # * preglow commits suicide 14.40.47 # i'm probably going to add another couple of bytes with fixing the pitch screen nudging! 14.41.37 # preglow: Do you happen to know if there is possible to play concurrent streams in an audio file? 14.41.49 # ? 14.42.10 # With ogg you can multiplex both sequential and concurrent streams 14.42.26 # oh, like that 14.42.35 # no, wouldn't know 14.42.36 Quit darkless_ ("Leaving") 14.43.04 # preglow: http://xiph.org/vorbis/doc/oggstream.html 14.43.20 Quit tucoz ("Leaving") 14.43.22 # I wasn't able to create one though... 14.43.38 # And I wonder if I did, how I could play such a file 14.43.54 # (at least being able to switch streams) 14.44.05 # depends 14.44.13 # video players usually support such stuff 14.44.17 # audio players, not so much 14.44.29 # let's just stop adding features to rockbox - the binary size is too big 14.44.42 # Yes... I would expect VLC to play such file... 14.45.10 # But I can't find a mux tool that doesn't expect a video stream as well :( 14.48.23 # bad tools 14.50.58 # preglow: You use foobar as well? 14.51.16 # Genre9mp3: when i'm in windows, yes, which is very seldom 14.52.20 # * XavierGr whispers foobar on linux via WINE! 14.52.48 # XavierGr: crashes quite often 14.52.52 # really? 14.52.53 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.52.54 # XavierGr: besides, i'm on amd64 14.53.12 # XavierGr: I would "drink" to that If I was a linux user ;) 14.53.18 # hehe 14.53.33 # too bad that the original author of foobar doesn't have a porting plan for linux 14.53.41 # or even better make his player opensource 14.54.26 # the foobar author is bit anal in some ways 14.54.37 # pity, 'cuz foobar is the best thing there is 14.54.47 # XavierGr: Can you test this file for me in foobar? http://www.nospermzone.de/downloads/german.ogg 14.54.53 # preglow: indeed! 14.54.58 # preglow: say that again... 14.55.03 # i haven't found anything that even compares 14.55.07 # especially in linux 14.55.12 # XavierGr: I want to know if you get error messages 14.55.38 # XavierGr: I can play all the streams but I get some error messages 14.56.22 # I don't get error messages, but something strange is happening 14.56.32 # like? 14.56.42 # the length is incorrect, and some parts I think are repeated 14.56.49 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.223.194) 14.56.55 # but I am not sure I don't speak german 14.57.04 # "Unable to open item for playback (Unsupported format or corrupted file): 14.57.04 # "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\jct.KOHLRABI\Desktop\german.ogg"" 14.57.05 # yay @ the last.fm support adding :) 14.57.15 # Seems to be broken 14.57.18 # You get 11 different streams though, right? 14.57.27 # yes 14.57.31 # Bagder: is there any change rockbox.org can host the upload script to make it easier to use please? 14.57.33 # ok 14.57.36 # run ogginfo over it 14.57.49 # Kohlrabi: good idea 14.57.56 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED819.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.58.32 # ogginfo german.ogg | grep [Ww]arning 14.58.47 # it's more or less completely broken ;) 14.58.55 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3065.gwdg.de) 14.59.12 # Kohlrabi: I can play it though, here 14.59.20 # I can't, in f2k 14.59.24 # 0.9.3.1 14.59.31 # It's a multistream ogg 14.59.33 # did you encode it? 14.59.42 # which means? 14.59.47 # f2k cant handle it? 14.59.50 # no... but I want to figure out how to create such files 15.00.14 # f2k can handle it (it plays) but with some error messages 15.00.21 Join darkless_ [0] (n=darkless@cpe.atm2-0-1131059.0x50a648ba.banxx1.customer.tele.dk) 15.00.24 # it won't even play back here 15.00.50 # I use 0.8.3 btw 15.01.05 # maybe it's more error-tolerant :) 15.01.29 # too much effort to set it all up again going to 0.9 ;) 15.01.33 # :) 15.01.54 # but if ogginfo reports the file as being corrupt I reckon it actually is 15.05.06 Quit revelation_ (Remote closed the connection) 15.06.06 # preglow: Left & Right at the same time is impossible electrically and/ or mechanically on all targets afaik 15.06.52 # Recorders: both. Ondios: both. Irivers: both. X5: both. iPod: mechanically 15.11.35 # oh? 15.11.48 # i thought i saw a successfull both-sides trigger on ipod just now 15.12.00 # might be bs, though, the wheel triggers at the same time too... 15.12.47 Join SmilinBob [0] (n=Bob@31.248.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 15.15.59 # Well, I tried that once, and didn't manage to press the wheel in a way that both left & right trigger 15.16.22 # Hmm, in fact the 3rd gen might allow simultaneous left & right 15.16.23 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730190a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.16.44 # I'll check later. 15.17.23 # I think the Sansa will allow it (not that that matters just yet...) and maybe H10 15.20.28 # amiconn: nano allows the wheel to press both sides at once, that's for sure 15.20.37 # amiconn: the mini wheel is a lot stiffer, though 15.23.50 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 15.25.17 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 15.26.30 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 15.27.19 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.223.194) 15.28.28 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.28.54 # Hey.. I have a quick question that I hope someone can answer... 15.29.32 # I'm trying to use bmp2rb to make a bitmap for use on a H10 20GB. Does anyone know which setting I need to use to get it to display right? 15.32.13 # Same as H300 I think 15.32.26 # Do you need to use bmp2rb any more? 15.33.28 # Well, I'm modifying the patch at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5597 to work with the H10 instead of the ipod.. so I need to figure out how to encode it to hex to get it to work... 15.35.10 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 15.35.32 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.07 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.223.194) 15.36.31 # rebuild with 'make V=1' 15.36.45 # and you'll see how it uses bmp2rb when building native bitmaps 15.37.17 # Well, I just took a peek inside the makefile and it seems to use -f 4... which I tried, but didn't seem to be working... 15.38.44 Join barrywardell [0] (i=892b7a86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.38.50 # tools/makebmp.inc has the rest of the clues 15.39.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.44.21 # TrueJournals: bmp2rb -f 4 should work 15.44.54 # Bagder: do u rekoin rockbox.org can hsot the last.fm upload script lpease? 15.45.51 # hmm... I tried that and -f 5... and left them for a while but it just stayed on the iriver boot screen 15.45.56 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549671CA.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.46.34 Quit darkless_ ("Leaving") 15.46.41 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AED819.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.47.41 # the bitmap can be the full size of the screen, right? So in the case of the 20 GB I can use a bitmap that is 160x128? 15.48.24 # preglow: left and right nudge "works" on the h10 pitch screen 15.48.36 # TrueJournals: yes 15.49.19 # Ok... maybe you can help me on the syntax of lcd_bitmap... here's the code I'm using: lcd_bitmap(rockboxlogo, 0, 10, BMPWIDTH_rockboxlogo, BMPHEIGHT_rockboxlogo); 15.49.31 # JdGordon: i want to have a last.fm upload cgi on rockbox.org 15.49.43 # :) 15.49.46 # rockbox logo is the image array, BMPWIDTH_rockboxlogo is defined as 160 and BMPHEIGHT_rockboxlogo is defined as 128 15.49.59 # TrueJournals: Isn't that drawing at 0, 10, which means you don't have the full height of the screen available? 15.50.01 # preglow: it works as in pressing left nudge first nudges it to 98%. holding left then pressing right has it stay at 98%, letting go of right makes it nudge to 96%. so works is the wrong term for it 15.50.11 # LinusN: there is a perl script on MR im trying to find if you dont want to have to write it from scratch 15.50.28 # TrueJournals: You have to make it "0, 0" instead of "0, 10" 15.50.36 # i think i have it somewhere 15.50.37 # ah, OK... let me try that... 15.51.10 # ok cool :D 15.52.29 # forum search still doesn't work :( 15.52.53 # since when? 15.53.00 # LinusN: About a day now 15.53.12 # LinusN: One of the tables needs repaired, something I can't do. =/ 15.53.29 # i have no clue how to do that 15.53.35 # I've sent a message to Jeff. 15.53.46 # Genre9mp3: still doesn't seem to be working... 15.54.02 # Hmmm... would the buffer need to be bigger or something? Or should that be plenty big? 15.54.08 # It's apparently an uncommon problem that's easy to fix, it's just that you have to be able to issue the repair command or have access to a phpMyAdmin script, neither of which falls within my range. 15.54.12 # TrueJournals: read here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6927.msg53910#msg53910 15.54.25 Join solarflare [0] (n=supernov@82-203-170-134.dsl.gohome.fi) 15.55.05 # Paul_the_Nerd: i have access to the server, but i have no knowledge of how to repair tables 15.55.30 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.56.08 # LinusN: From my understanding this command is all that needs to be issued: repair table smf_log_search_results; 15.56.19 # Genre9mp3: hmm... well, I asked for a copy of his bootloader... maybe that'll work :-\ 15.56.26 # TrueJournals: the load buffer is 5 megs, probably plenty big enough 15.56.40 # yeah, that's what I thought... 15.56.43 # TrueJournals: This has nothing to do with the bootloader 15.57.50 # It seems to.. it looks like he did exactly what I'm trying to do: apply the patch for iPod mini to the nano and H10... 15.57.52 # TrueJournals: Where did you place the bmp you want to load? 15.58.00 # LinusN: Unfortunately the information I found on the problem in the SMF forums was fairly terse. One person said "Do that" another said "Thanks, it worked" and that was it. 15.59.10 # Genre9mp3: I placed it in a file called h10_splash.c in the bootloader directory. I then included h10_splash.c in h10.c (in the bootloader)... just like the patch at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5597 15.59.26 Quit obo ("Changing server...") 15.59.53 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 16.00.03 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85.64.207.9.dynamic.barak-online.net) 16.00.11 # TrueJournals: Oh.... so you want to modify the bootloader itself and not just the splash screen? 16.00.30 # the boot loogo screen I mean 16.00.55 # Genre9mp3: Where it displays all the text "Version: ... Model: ..." I want an image instead of a debug screen 16.01.25 # TrueJournals: Why you want that? A full screen boot logo isn't enough? 16.01.45 # Also.. IMO messing with the bootloader is dangerous 16.01.57 # Genre9mp3: not that dangerous on a h10 16.02.23 Quit Quazgaa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.02.26 # don't know details actually about H10 16.02.33 # lol 16.02.56 # but anyway... I can't find a reason why do that 16.03.54 # Don't you find the Battery voltage useful when booting? 16.04.12 # Not really :-p 16.04.19 # kinda goes too fast to read anyway :-\ 16.04.41 # The error messages *are* useful if it fails to boot 16.04.56 # Yes, I left all the error messages displaying 16.05.18 # TrueJournals: Why not with a nice full screen ERROR logo? :P 16.05.24 # lol 16.06.28 # OK then... how about this one: where can I find the splash screen image (where the version is displayed)? 16.07.11 # in the source you mean? 16.07.25 # well... wherever it is :-\ 16.07.33 # oh, yeah, in the source 16.07.37 # "/apps/misc.c" 16.07.42 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p548484B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.07.56 # and is that part of the bootloader or the main firmware file? 16.08.08 # fw file 16.08.41 # ok, cool, thanks 16.10.50 Join McNutella [0] (n=pete@pdpc/supporter/base/McNutella) 16.11.09 Quit petur ("worrrk") 16.11.09 # hey, im looking for documents on the Iaudio bootloader 16.11.28 # pondlife: how's a-b? 16.12.05 Part TrueJournals 16.13.53 # a-b? Was a bit broken when I tried earlier... 16.13.59 # McNutella: what documents? 16.14.22 # It repeats, but not the right section - either compared to the expected audio or the progress bar. 16.14.53 # Hard to explain exactly, give it a go and you'll soon see. 16.15.27 # By the way, did you see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6205? 16.17.31 Nick daurn is now known as daurn|afk (n=nnnquae@124.243.137.107) 16.17.48 # hmm I guess ill have to wait until its developed for the x5 then ? 16.17.52 # Paul_the_Nerd: try a search now 16.18.07 # McNutella: there is a bootloader 16.18.14 # LinusN: It works. Thank you muchly 16.18.20 # Genre9mp3: LinusN has fixed our searching. 16.18.37 # LinusN, is that the x5_fw.bin file then >? 16.18.44 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 16.18.49 Quit nudelyn2 ("At Argon, we're working to keep your money.") 16.19.19 # McNutella: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioBoot 16.19.20 Join falkyre [0] (i=Administ@209.8.41.148) 16.19.34 # cool! 16.19.37 # :) 16.19.42 # McNutella: yes, it's the x5_fw.bin file 16.20.02 # i wonder why its not updating then once I turn it back on 16.20.23 # McNutella: you must put it in the FIRMWARE directory 16.20.23 # McNutella: power cable inserted? 16.20.33 # and you must have the charger connected 16.20.48 # yes its connected 16.21.11 # McNutella: which version of x5 do you have? 16.21.13 # and it isn't an x5v ? 16.21.29 # x5l 16.21.46 # should be the same as x5 iirc 16.22.01 # McNutella: do you turn the x5 off and then insert the power cable? 16.22.30 # which is the proper way, ive tried all ways to the point of confusion :) 16.22.44 # the proper way is described here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioBoot 16.22.58 # you insert the charger while the player is off 16.25.04 # when I stick in the charger it just comes up "charging" 16.26.51 # did you put the file in the FIRMWARE folder? 16.27.03 # and did you safely unplug the usb cable? 16.27.14 # yes i did 16.27.44 # if you connect the usb, can you see the file in X:\FIRMWARE? 16.27.53 # yes 16.28.04 # are you using windows? 16.28.07 # no 16.28.08 # pondlife: the progress bar not matching the audio on a-b is kinda a known problem, I think I even have comments about it somewhere 16.28.15 # pondlife: but the audio should be what is "expected" 16.28.18 # Yes, it's not a new one 16.28.22 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.28.29 # It might be, but it's hard to tell for sure. 16.28.45 # *nod* 16.29.06 # There's obviously a large-ish latency involved when the markers are placed too 16.29.28 # Room for improvement, but not a high priority bug 16.29.33 # yah 16.29.45 # that "funky" rebuffering bug is more concerning 16.29.48 # I can't repro that new buffering bug. 16.30.48 # what I observed a couple of times while working on 5906 was that it would do a full rebuffer, but when it tried to make the track transition it wouldn't find the audio in the new track, or it would buffer overitself and the buffer would go from 90% to 0% suddenly, forcing a rebuffer 16.31.10 # Is there any guesswork involved in the buffer sizing? Something that VBR could upset? 16.31.31 # LinusN, i got firmware update then, now it goes off 16.31.36 # I determined that the cause was a wrong calculation of buf_idx vs. start_pos vs. available which resulted in a buffer_wind_forward that was negative. This backwards wind forward somehow reset the buffer and effed it all up 16.31.44 # McNutella: have you tried the x5v_fw.bin file? 16.31.57 # may have to 16.32.01 # pondlife: no -- it's raw filesize 16.32.12 # pondlife: ... unless the id3v1 tag messes it up somehow 16.32.29 # Or codecsize? 16.32.33 # McNutella: maybe the file is corrupted somehow 16.32.42 # no, codecs are separate from audio files 16.32.47 # ill just keep checking, thank you for the help 16.33.17 # Hmm, I thought I saw (codecsize + filesize) somewhere in there... 16.33.45 # McNutella: it said "firmware update"? 16.33.59 # amount += tracks[from_track].codecsize + tracks[from_track].filesize 16.34.35 # hmm, if codecsize doesn't get reset in the reuffer_and_seek that could be the issue 16.34.57 # I don't really have a grasp on this yet... just assumed there could be a "codec" block in there - apparently before the file data in each case. 16.35.08 # But for just MP3 codecsize is always 0. 16.35.09 # only when there is a change of codec 16.35.12 # LinusN, gets to bootloader, some text goes past, then goes off 16.35.13 # Ah 16.35.20 # McNutella: then all is well 16.35.22 # So if I alternate OGG and MP3.... 16.35.22 # we don't buffer a codec with every song that way 16.35.25 # right 16.35.29 # McNutella: all you have to do now is install rockbox 16.35.32 # Why buffer the codec at all? 16.35.42 # To avoid HDD access? 16.35.44 # so we don't hafta spin up the disk every track transition 16.35.44 # right 16.35.51 # hdd is slow and power hungry 16.35.55 # Yep 16.36.01 # I realised as I was typing 16.36.32 Quit solarflare ("Leaving") 16.38.21 Part LinusN 16.41.10 # pondlife: I can get the stopping part of the bug (play dir1...let stop naturally...play dir2...stops after track 1). It's pretty reproducible in the H120 sim (non-logf). 16.41.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB37CBD.ipt.aol.com) 16.41.46 # pondlife: to answer the question you posted earlier: i use ubuntu linux 6.06 16.41.51 # I'm trying to dump the logf's through debugf. 16.42.26 # lowlight: I also have seen the stopping bug 16.42.39 # I don't know if it's related to the white noise though. 16.43.04 # It seems that the stopping is more a playlist problem 16.43.18 # It acts just like the playlist of album #2 is only one track long. 16.44.06 # I can't get white noise, even with a plain sim build. 16.44.09 # Ahh. I thought PaulJam said when you restart after that you get whitenoise during the rebuffer. 16.44.21 # Yes, he does. I don't though 16.44.55 Part Paul_the_Nerd 16.46.00 # But it's odd that I can only get the stopping part with a non-logf sim and vbr mp3's. 16.48.14 # It must be a race condition. 16.49.03 # What if you enable logf, but comment out #define PLAYBACK_LOGQUEUES 16.49.22 # Then it will be doing a lot less logf-ing. 16.49.44 # So when you restart after a stop, do you get white noise? 16.49.50 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-151-1-47-201.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.50.49 # Even after installing rockbox, the iaudio doesnt stay on 16.51.19 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.51.33 Quit Rob2222 () 16.52.17 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB37CBD.ipt.aol.com) 16.53.16 Quit McNutella (Remote closed the connection) 16.53.23 Quit theli_ua ("Leaving") 16.54.09 # pondlife: I don't know. I was trying to figure out why playback was stopping. 16.54.14 # OK. 16.54.24 Quit bluebrother ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 16.55.43 Quit Abst ("Died") 16.59.01 Join inteliwasp [0] (n=inteliwa@205.133.129.254) 16.59.48 # is thre a problem with the daily build 061018 for the ipod? 17.01.25 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.05.47 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.06.06 Join nls [0] (i=HydraIRC@nl104-202-216.student.uu.se) 17.07.39 # inteliwasp: do *you* have a problem with the build? 17.08.20 # yes, it will not boot all the way 17.08.43 # i am about to use 061019 i a few mins 17.08.56 Quit ender` (" .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......") 17.09.52 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.14.39 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 17.16.19 # well *19 fixed the problem 17.17.24 Quit inteliwasp ("Leaving") 17.20.25 Join rretzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-088-076-081-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.24.52 Quit barrywardell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.26.08 # Did kalthare fall of the face of the planet? 17.32.08 Join darkless_ [0] (n=darkless@cpe.atm2-0-1131059.0x50a648ba.banxx1.customer.tele.dk) 17.33.05 # seriously.. has anyone seen him in the past 2 days? 17.35.54 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 17.36.56 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-173-67.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 17.37.31 Nick _jhMikeS_ is now known as jhMikeS (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-173-67.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 17.39.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.51.01 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 17.56.00 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.56.21 # pondlife: so when I redefine logf as debugf, and run the sim, I can not reproduce the stopping bug. 17.56.37 # I can only reproduce it in a standard sim build. 17.56.48 # Does logf yield? 17.56.58 # I would hope not... 17.57.02 # anyone have any advice for unlocking itunes store songs? 17.57.09 # But debugf would 17.58.05 Join rr3tzbach [0] (n=robert@dslb-084-062-040-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.58.53 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 17.58.54 # SmilinBob: buy the songs again on CD and avoid DRM music in the future. 18.00.04 Quit darkless_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.00.05 # or burn the songs on cd via itunes and rerip (you will loose quality) 18.01.02 # pondlife: no yields in debug.c or logf.c 18.01.25 # What about the file writing in debugf? 18.01.35 # Doesn't that result in a yield? 18.02.03 # SmilinBob: After that, write down 1000 times: "I won't buy DRM music again" 18.02.22 # hehe 18.02.54 # lala.com is a good website SmilinBob 18.02.57 # i do have a rockbox related question aswell 18.03.02 # you trade physical cds 18.03.03 # ... 18.03.14 # works out to be just under $2/album 18.03.17 # i downloaded like 6 different themes from the site 18.03.18 # and you get the cd 18.03.23 Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") 18.03.29 # and they all seem to semi-work 18.03.42 # like everything's there, but it's not aligned properly 18.03.53 # (ipod 5g btw) 18.04.20 # many themes on the wiki require additional patches 18.04.25 # ah 18.04.43 # lostlogic: FWIW, I can now repro the buffering problem on FS#6205 18.05.11 # audio_rebuffer_and_seek() is doing a quick rebuffer of only the current file. 18.05.40 # where would i find these patches? 18.05.50 # SmilinBob: Also I think you should have alook at this: http://hymn-project.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1555 18.06.38 Quit obo ("bye") 18.06.59 # ooooo 18.07.01 # ty much 18.07.17 Join qailer [0] (n=qailer@c80-217-91-17.bredband.comhem.se) 18.07.38 # and i was just starting to burn off all my purchased music so i can re-rip it... 18.09.17 # pondlife: I wasn't aware we had a concept of aquick rebuffer aside from the "buffer at least this much then quit" mode which I enhanced in my last commit 18.09.34 # This is what's being triggered. 18.09.56 # audio_read_file(32768) is being called 18.10.09 # yeah, but that still buffers the whole buffer, immediately following 18.10.30 # hmm... I wonder if it causes the problem if the minimum is >= the total of the file 18.10.33 # that's possible 18.10.37 # It is. 18.10.47 # well then someone (ie me) should fix that. 18.10.47 # Minimum never gets back to 0 18.11.22 # Wouldn't that imply that newpos > filesize too in audio_rebuffer_and_seek()? 18.11.55 # no 18.12.00 # SmilinBob: Burning and reripping lossy encoded files is abou the worse way to do it. 18.12.00 # becaues of conf_preseek 18.12.06 # Ah. 18.12.12 # s/worse/worst 18.12.16 # which is a good feature for codecs without seek tables, but I'm beginning to think is too much trouble to be worth it 18.12.24 # Should the test (minimum > (unsigned)rc) be a >= ? 18.12.29 # er codecs which don't have precise seeking or wahtever 18.12.45 # not sure on that 18.12.48 # true 18.13.13 # The problem I'm seeing results in a loop 32768 -> 16384 but not -> 0 18.13.19 # yeah 18.13.39 # i.e. minimum = rc 18.13.40 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.13.53 # not necessarily 18.13.57 # minimum is probably > rc 18.14.26 # i heard you can unlock itunes songs with some program, the only downside is you have to play them in itunes in realtime 18.14.46 # Best bet is to strip the DRM if that is legal in your jurisdiction, second best (but nowhere near as good) is to use a program like TotalRecorder which pretends to be a sound card driver, and gets direct access to the decoded audio stream. to/from CD can just add more errors to an already poor situation. 18.14.46 # (sorry if someone said that already) 18.15.14 # I think we just need to make some tweaks to the exit conditions of audio_read_file 18.15.25 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 18.15.32 # so that it knows that it should act the same if minimum is reached, or if minimum is _not_ reached, but EOF is reached 18.16.01 # i.e. it should carry on at EOF 18.16.13 # To return so the next file is buffered 18.17.09 # Hmm, my logf shows that min=16384, rc=16384 18.18.07 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.140.121) 18.20.28 Join jaczehack [0] (i=d572f7fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 18.20.59 Quit besonen_mobile__ (Success) 18.22.32 # lostlogic: How can this carry on to do other files? audio_rebuffer_and_seek() doesn't even check the return value from audio_read_file().. 18.23.49 # file descriptor or something isn't reset correctly at the end of the buffering 18.25.30 Quit Mikachu (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.34 Join Mikachu [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 18.25.38 # * pondlife has a somwehat unrelated thought 18.25.50 # unfortunately I can't really look into this too much ATM, because I'm working an dthen traveling 18.25.53 # I wonder if the stopping problem is caused by the last file not being closed 18.26.24 # ARF should close files it's done with 18.26.28 # but maybe we have a bug there 18.27.02 # ...something that survives a call to audio_play...? 18.29.59 # try closing and resetting current_fd in there for shits? 18.30.27 # I'll just look at it all again... I'll leave the rebuffer fix for you when you get time though. 18.30.53 # I'm sure you'll remind me, but a FS task assigned to me might help remind me to look at it Sundayish. 18.31.10 # Will do 18.33.02 # Hmm, don't suppose close() can yield? 18.33.09 # could you guys please see about adding boosting while the playback engine buffers? 18.33.21 # I already added it once 18.33.26 # didya now 18.33.33 # when? 18.34.13 # About 2 weeks ago? - but I'm not sure it's survived 18.34.41 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.34.52 # preglow: doesn't it? 18.35.07 # hmm... the scheduler may unboost if the buffering process goes to sleep 18.35.10 # but it never really should 18.36.17 # lostlogic: the non-boosting behaviour has been around since your rework 18.36.24 # so it's not scheduler related 18.36.50 # there are trigger_cpu_boost calls throughout the buffering related code 18.36.55 # seems liked it boosts now 18.37.01 # yea, it does 18.37.09 # nice, pondlife 18.37.11 # heh 18.37.16 # :) 18.37.28 # I don't think my particular code remains at all 18.37.29 Nick jborn__ is now known as JoeyBorn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 18.37.36 # well, that doesn't matter so much 18.37.45 # Nope, as long as it's working 18.37.47 # codecs that _just_ avoided boosting took forever to buffer when it didn't boost 18.38.12 # I added that back on 26th Sept 18.38.31 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p548765DA.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.46 # I need to work on my per-thread scheduler managed boosting... it's still a halfbaked idea and a halfbaked patch 18.41.41 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h187n8c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 18.42.40 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 18.44.35 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 18.45.27 Quit falkyre (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.48.51 Join Abst [0] (n=Abst@unaffiliated/abst) 18.49.30 Quit lowlight ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.51.59 Part Paul_the_Nerd 18.57.55 Quit JoeyBorn ("open.neurostechnology.com") 19.01.07 Quit pondlife () 19.02.51 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.07.27 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@91.84.52.16) 19.12.38 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-074-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.12.58 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.14.55 Join linuxstb [0] (i=3f887556@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.17.12 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 19.17.50 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 19.20.10 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.23.44 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 19.25.45 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@140.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) 19.30.27 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 19.32.49 Quit SmilinBob ("Leaving") 19.34.40 # Seriously, has the Xing VBR TOC _never_ been used by Rockbox? 19.35.56 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-173-72.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 19.36.07 # Lear: eh? i thought that was all rockbox used 19.36.12 # Lear: sure you don't mean vbri? 19.36.34 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 19.36.52 # Problem is, from what I can see, has_toc is never set to true... Not in id3.c or mp3data.c at least. 19.37.30 # And if not set, it isn't used in playback.c. Don't know how hwcodec does things, but that function is supposedly copied from mpeg.c 19.37.48 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 19.39.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.40.36 # Same for hwcodec... 19.40.56 # oh? 19.41.01 # so the seek table is never used???? 19.41.56 # Nope. 19.42.21 # Went back to older versions of mp3data.c, wasn't set in the few versions I checked... 19.43.12 Join Redbreva [0] (n=IceChat7@host86-138-16-97.range86-138.btcentralplus.com) 19.43.33 # I did think the seeking wasn't all that accurate, but at least some of the files I thought were "bad" were cbr without any TOC... 19.43.58 # cbr with no toc should be accurate 19.46.01 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.47.23 # For long files (say 1+ hours), I usually need to seek at least 10 secs or so to actually skip anywhere. 19.48.07 # But it probably did work once upon a time, but a rewrite 3.5 years ago (when has_toc was introduced) broke it. 19.48.36 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Remote closed the connection) 19.50.06 Join bluebrother [0] (i=0HMKB96U@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.51.06 Quit Siku () 19.52.33 Quit Viet8knight ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.05.18 Quit godzirra ("Lost terminal") 20.05.58 # Lear: awesome patch :) 20.06.00 Join besonen_mobile [0] (n=besonen_@p94.tc1.pacinfo.com) 20.06.02 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 20.06.26 # Yep. :) 20.09.21 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 20.09.22 Join Sead [0] (i=ben@85.64.207.9.dynamic.barak-online.net) 20.15.24 Quit Sead ("cu, Andre") 20.15.27 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85.64.207.9.dynamic.barak-online.net) 20.17.05 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-145-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.22.32 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 20.26.05 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.27.40 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=SereR0kR@Ea2d8.e.strato-dslnet.de) 20.30.18 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp193-65.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.30.59 Quit besonen_mobile (No route to host) 20.31.11 Quit SereR0kR (Client Quit) 20.31.18 Join My_Sic [0] (i=51410ec9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.31.29 # hie all 20.31.37 # a little question 20.32.30 # Are exist an windows application for create the cachetag ? 20.33.09 # there's a perl scrip that (probably) will run on windows 20.33.24 # were i can find it ? 20.34.00 # and are they have another ? 20.34.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/tools/songdb.pl I don't know how to use it maybe there's something in the wiki... 20.35.02 # thanks 20.35.10 # But I suppose you need to install perl 20.35.17 # i think so 20.37.43 # i have some problem to create cachetag with rockbox one my ipod 5g 60go 20.38.01 # not enought battery to create them at once time 20.38.41 # It should be able to resume initialization between boots 20.38.43 # and if i make it in many time, they have always a time where they have problem and all cachedata are delete 20.40.40 # another problem in rockbox for creating cachetag, if they are updating or initialising, and you connect to the pc, alla data for cachetag aren't save 20.43.04 # That would probably be a bug. Probably caused by the usb mode reboot thingy that the ipods do. 20.45.10 # maybe 20.45.41 # another question (the last one) 20.46.04 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.46.08 # where i can find a build of rockbox with 64Mo of memory enable? 20.46.47 # Probably some of the unofficial builds have that patch in. 20.46.47 # look in the unsupported builds section in the forum 20.48.21 # thanks for all 20.48.33 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.51.11 # <_jhMikeS_> Has LinusN been away a lot or has my schedule just not been coinciding with his? 20.51.16 Nick _jhMikeS_ is now known as jhMikeS (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-173-72.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 20.52.19 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 20.54.45 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 20.58.12 # LinusN: was just asking about ya :) 20.58.35 # i see 20.59.24 # any discoveries about the source changing or no time? i'm clueless about it right now. 21.01.22 # i'm having a look at it right now 21.02.09 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p548484B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.02.24 # Well, I was thinking I'd release a change that keeps recording in master mode atm and then if it workds ok, commit and then put in a patch that deals with changing slave mode only. 21.02.42 # chicken :-) 21.02.52 # :-) Hey! 21.03.22 # *bawk* *bawk* 21.04.13 # * jhMikeS is developing an appetite for dried corn and is scratching the ground with his feet 21.04.29 # :-) 21.09.47 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730190b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.16.37 # salaam 21.16.50 # in accordance with the prophecy 21.17.25 # linusn: btw, had any look on that mp3 that wouldn't play? if not, I could take one... 21.17.36 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.18.27 # sleep-time 21.18.31 Quit jaczehack ("CGI:IRC") 21.18.57 # LinusN: Hmm, I should have left a comment on that patch you committed now 21.19.30 # Do you think the general void queue_remove_from_head() is a good idea? 21.19.51 # Imho it would have been better to handle the situation within th eplayback engine 21.21.53 # Lear: that file sure is odd 21.23.16 # Oh? 21.23.24 # Lear: http://linus.haxx.se/rollingstones.mp3 21.23.46 # libmad chokes when decoding and returns ERROR_BUFLEN 21.24.11 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p548765DA.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.24.21 # amiconn: i don't really care if it's generic or not 21.24.58 Quit qailer ("Leaving") 21.26.35 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@unaffiliated/desowin) 21.26.41 # Linusn: Got it. 21.26.59 # Hmm, ok. 21.28.14 # Lear: so, is seeking any better? 21.28.48 # A little, I think. 21.29.07 # Just tried with one 12-minute file though... 21.30.06 # Lear: It should be most obvious with a file where bitrate varies a lot, correct? 21.30.22 # Ah, an "oldie": chock-full of CRC errors... :) 21.30.40 # I do remember Rockbox having problem with that, not sure if it was hw or sw codec though... 21.30.46 # * amiconn has a track with 2.5 minutes of silence. Should test with that 21.30.51 # amiconn: should be, yes. 21.34.19 # Lear: with your toc fix I no longer get the one of the playback bugs (play one directory & let finish, then play another dir...playback quits after first track) 21.35.00 # lowlight: and you get the bug wihtout seeking (or resuming)? 21.35.23 # Btw, I've seen that a few times: playback stops after first track. Play it again and it works. 21.37.15 # Yeah, no seeking or resuming. It's an odd bug. 21.37.41 # I could reproduce it in the sim with only vbr mp3s. 21.37.52 # cbr mp3s were ok 21.38.02 Quit rr3tzbach ("Verlassend") 21.38.47 # But when I enabled logf I couldn't reproduce it at all...odd. 21.39.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.40.32 # if no seeking is done, toc shouldn't be used at all... 21.41.31 # Nope, wrong, audio_set_elapsed uses it... 21.42.33 # So the bug would be caused by a bad "elapsed" value? 21.43.02 # presumably only if its resuming 21.43.28 # jhMikeS: i see some very odd behaviour 21.44.33 # really. explain. 21.44.41 # Mmm, yes, the name fooled me. :) 21.45.07 # uda1380_enable_recording sets REG_VGA to 0 (to unmute the ADC) 21.45.38 # yes. That's how it was. I was looking there myself. 21.45.56 # then uda1380_set_recvol() is called, which doesn't touch REG_VGA 21.46.04 # But isn't 0 really -0db? 21.46.36 # as an experiment, i wrote 0 to REG_VGA in set_recvol as well, and then it worked 21.46.54 # Linusn: That MP3 file now plays. But do we want to disable the CRC checks? They could be useful (though it is fairly common with bad files like these, I think). 21.46.58 # VGA or PGA? 21.47.06 # ?? 21.47.14 # sorry PGA 21.47.21 # Maybe they're more intended for streaming or other cases where teh file is likely to be corrupted? 21.47.41 # The line in vol sets it 21.48.15 # All the inputs work now? 21.48.31 # well, we have other problems now 21.48.37 # what? 21.48.41 # the mic isn't turned off when we select line in 21.48.53 Quit NickDe (Remote closed the connection) 21.49.01 # Are you hearing both or only mic? 21.49.19 # don't know, have no line source atm 21.49.30 # Radio? 21.49.38 # good idea 21.49.42 # Did you ever check SPDIF? 21.51.27 # Hmm, no linuxstb around... 21.51.54 Quit Abst (Success) 21.52.28 # jhMikeS: not yet 21.53.08 # now i can't select radio anymore... something is really wrong 21.55.23 # no menu item? 21.55.32 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust419.leic.cable.ntl.com) 21.55.45 # no, the radio isn't heard 21.56.19 Join Abst [0] (n=Abst@unaffiliated/abst) 21.57.30 # How come line in in set_recvol doesn't touch reg ADC? 21.57.34 # but mic does? 21.57.58 # beats me 21.58.55 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 21.59.13 Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") 22.00.03 # I think analog front end volume control needs some detangling :) 22.02.49 # i'm beginning to suspect something completely different, like that the i2c driver sends one byte too many 22.03.18 # afk for a while 22.05.24 # hmm 22.06.13 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 22.06.14 # wonder how it worked before...take out the combi thing? 22.10.03 Quit Abst (Remote closed the connection) 22.16.52 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 22.17.44 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@82.247.165.89) 22.22.51 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACAD6D47.ipt.aol.com) 22.23.31 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 22.34.19 Join random81 [0] (n=chatzill@cp562554-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) 22.35.48 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 22.38.09 Quit My_Sic ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.42.44 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.48.39 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.48.39 Join Soap_ [0] (n=chatzill@rrcs-70-61-25-246.central.biz.rr.com) 22.48.44 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=chatzill@rrcs-70-61-25-246.central.biz.rr.com) 22.50.26 Quit Soap (Client Quit) 22.51.51 Quit mirak (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.55.48 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-90-230.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.01.30 Join besonen_mobile [0] (n=besonen_@71-221-69-203.eugn.qwest.net) 23.07.51 Part lowlight 23.14.47 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.26 # jhMikeS: the i2c bus looks just fine in the logic analyzer 23.18.08 Quit nls (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 23.18.09 # hmmm...what the f is going on? 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