--- Log for 12.11.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.15 # barrywardell: hmm, thats odd, i thought i added it, its just an empty file 00.00.24 Quit Kohlrabi ("Reconnecting") 00.00.25 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@frustrum.nosebud.de) 00.00.26 # amiconn: i'm quite surprised by that. i plan to look into it 00.00.33 # theone: The fact that your battery only lasts a few hours at a full charge implies that it's fairly low capacity these days, somewhat old, so it's not as shocking as it could be. 00.00.34 # at a glance, i couldn't see why 00.00.34 # The main thing is that after a full charge it automatically shut down after about 2 hours (restarting[when possible] displays a very low battery level) 00.00.37 # * petur spots the ByteHunter :) 00.00.45 # * amiconn is somewhat demotivated to work on rockbox atm :( 00.01.07 Join Parachutes [0] (n=jmlane@unaffiliated/Jon-) 00.01.07 # amiconn: ? 00.01.13 # Paul_the_Nerd, a bad battery? 00.01.13 # amiconn: really i think what needs to be done is a full reworking of the power management mess 00.01.29 # midgey34: np. just wondering 00.01.34 # barrywardell: in what way is it a mess? 00.01.39 # theone: A proper H300 battery should last greater than 16 hours in Rockbox playing MP3s under decent conditions. 00.02.02 # I have also had a lot of lockups too 00.02.14 # that only a paper-clip reset fixed 00.02.16 # Are you running a recent official build? 00.02.17 # preglow: i think it's overly complilcated in ways. the first time i looked at the code it took me a long while to figure out what's going on 00.02.19 # preglow: Look at powermgmt.c and you'll see 00.02.39 # barrywardell: It's partly because of the different charging stragies 00.02.43 # *strategies 00.03.02 # ouch 00.03.11 # We have 3 battery systems and 4 levels of control for charging 00.03.12 # theone: are you the one who posted that batterybench log in the forums recently? 00.03.14 # Paul_the_Nerd, yup: version says: 061107-1937 00.03.30 # Soap, nope 00.03.43 # (a) NiMH (b) Alkaline (+ optional NiMH) (c) LiIon/LiPoly 00.03.59 # amiconn: yes, maybe it will always be complicated because of the different hardware. i wish it were simpler though 00.04.02 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 00.04.07 # preglow: I've updated the piezo patch, removing the timer 00.04.14 # obo: yeah, saw, will look at when i can 00.04.19 # I think that was a CVS build 00.04.19 # speaking power, my h320 shuts off randomly (seems like when the disk spins up) 00.04.27 # does that sound like a loose connection? 00.04.30 # midgey, same here 00.04.49 # (h340 though) 00.04.53 # sounds like voltage drop under load for sure. 00.05.13 # ah, mine did it randomly a few months ago, it just became more frequent recently 00.05.18 # Old battery? 00.05.25 # completely 00.05.34 # im planning on replacing it anyway 00.05.40 # the battery i mean 00.05.40 # (1) no charging at all (Ondio, iFP) (2) pure hardware charging with no dedicated monitoring, only voltage (h1x0, player) (3) hardware charging with dedicated monitoring (h300, ipod 4G and up, recorder fm/v2) (4) software controlled charging (recorder v1) 00.06.09 # Mine is new...(to me:))...bought used on eBay 00.06.25 # Sounds like replacing the battery would be a good thing to do 00.06.49 # A decent battery can be had for very cheap 00.07.01 # A good one for not quite as cheap 00.07.13 # barrywardell: The worst thing is that the software controlled charging algorithm is pretty sophisticated, but still doesn't perform very well 00.07.17 # So is mine just an isolated case? People haven't been reporting random forced shutdowns lately? 00.07.36 # theone: Not in the forums or on the patch tracker. 00.07.38 # Not that I've noticed 00.08.20 Quit Parachutes ("ALT+F4") 00.08.29 # theone: theres one on the forums, plus you and i 00.08.38 # Paul_the_Nerd: Btw, why do I get "reported post" mails from time to time? 00.08.44 # * amiconn just got one today 00.08.59 # Yeah, from someone who meant to press "reply", rather than report too 00.09.02 # amiconn: only ipod-video has CONFIG_CHARGING defined - should it be enabled for some of the other ipods? 00.09.11 # I got one today also. 00.09.14 # amiconn, rasher: I'm not really sure why, honestly. 00.09.33 # obo: It needs testing. 00.09.36 # amiconn: yes, i've found out the hard way how complicated the charging/power mangement system is in RB 00.09.38 # Apparently one of the abilities I've given devs and experts (probably the ability to delete posts) also entitles you to receive reports. 00.09.39 # SMF seems like a whole barrel of strange 00.09.42 # * Paul_the_Nerd will look into that. 00.10.01 # I actually don't think I have the ability to delete posts. 00.10.05 Join Parachutes [0] (n=jmlane@bas13-ottawa23-1088825283.dsl.bell.ca) 00.10.13 # Soap: Actually, experts can only lock, I believe. 00.10.16 # Hmmm 00.10.21 # or else that llorean character would be down below 1000 again ;) 00.10.28 # Hahaha 00.11.08 # midgey34, are you talking about this thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7324.0 00.11.30 # no 00.11.31 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7215.0 00.12.06 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.12.13 # * Paul_the_Nerd isn't sure. 00.12.57 # The only power I'm unsure of is the "Moderate Board" one, which allows replies to locked topics, and may also qualify you as "moderators." I'll investigate further later and see if I can do something about not spamming y'all. 00.13.11 # I guess a battery upgrade is my only option for now; but it does shut down randomly - sometimes while music is playing w/o me touching anything, sometimes while in the file browser, etc.. 00.13.40 Quit wehn (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.14.38 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.47 # amiconn: i'll have a look at what i can do to reduce the size for devices that shouldn't power off, or maybe even try to tidy up powermmgmt.c in general 00.14.53 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-241-175.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 00.14.56 # "and if I try to start it again, I cannot got further than the Rockbox splash screen, I have to wait fifteen minutes to start the player correctly" <--- kind of like what I originally asked (does rb recharge the battery) 00.15.08 # i think the changes were very neccesary for LiIon players though 00.15.41 # * petur reproduces a play lockup bug... 00.15.48 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.16.41 # I guess new batteries aren't that bad nowadays (WRT price) 00.18.07 # Thanks for the advice, new battery it is 00.18.12 Quit theone ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 00.20.36 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host175-143.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 00.21.22 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@ppp98-163.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 00.23.27 # * petur hates the fact that flyspray forgets about what you typed if you go back into a form 00.24.25 # midgey34: just using the dummy file works great. I'll commit that but leave the param.h and warnings alone if that's ok? 00.24.36 # sounds fine 00.25.22 # if you ever find out how to fix those warnings, i'd be glad to hear about it 00.26.51 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.27.03 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-53-207.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 00.27.12 # i think i has something to do with the dynamiclib flag, but i really have no idea 00.29.19 Part Paul_the_Nerd 00.31.02 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.31.15 # i'd also love to find out why closing the simulator is so broken 00.32.23 # it could be related to the warnings, but i dont really know 00.33.21 Part ipodfoo 00.33.25 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.35.33 Quit ender` (" A computer program will always do what you tell it to, and seldom what you want it to.") 00.36.07 # midgey34: committed. should i leave the task open for the other two parts of the patch? 00.36.30 # umm i dont think thats necessary, do you? 00.36.57 # no, not really. i'll close it 00.37.24 # yay, the commit didnt break anything 00.37.40 Quit jjazz_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.39.43 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-39-84.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 00.40.16 # yay 00.47.22 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.49.50 Quit voyeur ("CGI:IRC") 00.58.02 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.06 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-50-10.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 00.58.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.03.41 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 01.07.12 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 01.10.58 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 01.11.38 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-37-74.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 01.14.10 # is the middle of the scroll thing on the e200 a button? 01.14.11 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.14.22 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-31-208.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 01.14.24 # its marked with 5 on the sim, but doesnt act like i exect from the select button? 01.15.11 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.15.25 Join rogermudd [0] (n=david@user-142h78q.cable.mindspring.com) 01.16.48 # JdGordon: yes 01.16.48 # crap the gigabeats screen is huge :p 01.16.59 # yes it is a button? 01.17.03 # it works like a select button 01.17.17 # ok, must be something wrong with the sim then? 01.17.19 # the button mappings for the sansa are still pretty messed up 01.18.07 # they need to be tested and adjusted. someone posted suggestions for an improved version on the forums 01.18.22 # ah ok 01.19.53 # is that the same for the h10? num 5 doesnt seem to be acting as select 01.20.20 # there is no select on the h10 01.20.26 # ok 01.21.03 # and a lot of the keymaps for the sansa were copied from the h10 as a starting point 01.21.08 # * goffa wonders if the gigabeat screen is 9:16 01.23.01 # i guess that's jumping the gun though 01.23.24 # audio has to come first :)... the boys at #gigabeat seem to be making a lot of progress though 01.25.05 Join pawl90 [0] (i=Paul@202-154-141-105.ras.actrix.co.nz) 01.26.05 # i love how every single target seems to have different defaults in the sim 01.26.28 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-36-98.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 01.26.28 # hi there can anyone tell me how to make the dictionary on rockbox work? i cannot fin those converter files i am supposed to have 01.26.41 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.26.43 # JdGordon: what do you mean? 01.27.18 # the ifp uses the > mark for current selection, the ipod has a much darker blue background, other small but noticable stuff 01.27.44 # Which iPod? 01.27.49 # Darker blue compared to what? 01.28.12 # the color/photo target, compared to the other sim targets 01.28.13 # i looked at a page on the rockbox wiki and it said get these prolog files from wordnet and run a program, i have the files from wordnet, but i don't have wn2rdf.pl or rdf2binary 01.29.00 # pawl90: Those files are in the tools/ dir of the rockbox source 01.29.07 # Also, ugh prolog 01.29.58 # ok. thanks very much 01.31.06 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 01.33.06 Quit pawl90 () 01.35.51 Quit tim66 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.36.42 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 01.40.08 Join Jack__ [0] (n=Jack@pool-71-254-213-42.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 01.40.47 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-242-222.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 01.41.08 # I'm trying to make a theme, but the progress bar on the WPS starts to duplicate itself near the end of each track. Any ideas why? 01.42.03 # setting the end too far? 01.42.18 # What do you mean? 01.42.53 # you set the start and end in the line for it 01.43.01 # i can't remember the line offhand, at work :S 01.43.26 # anyone with a recorder/player handy? 01.44.31 # The line I was using is '%pb|14|8|8|' but the progress bar will just run right off the screen. 01.45.53 # i dunno then 01.45.59 # haven't run into that problem myself 01.46.04 Join sellout_ [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.46.48 Quit [sellout] (Success) 01.48.24 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p549337CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.48.50 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.44 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.51 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-104-224.dslaccess.co.uk) 01.51.17 # * psiborg spots some nude 01.52.38 Quit sellout_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.53.45 # Nimdae: I got it, that last eight was causing the problem, and should have been 168. I thought it was how many pixels from the right, and now how many from the left (I believe that's how it works) 01.54.06 # *not 01.54.33 Quit BlackHoleOfCode (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.55.51 # So you were making a 0 pixel wide progressbar 01.55.56 # That'll confuse it good 01.56.22 # Yes, that I believe was the problem, but this was my first time trying to make a theme 01.56.51 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.197.196) 01.57.14 Quit obo ("bye") 01.58.02 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.58.56 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-41-54.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 02.05.03 Quit Soap ("Leaving") 02.07.57 Quit Kitt0s ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.08.12 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 02.09.02 Join ipodpatcherHELP [0] (i=4750e3d5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 02.09.09 # Hello 02.09.35 # Can anyone help me out with ipodpatcher? 02.10.37 # What problem are you having? 02.11.16 # Hey Paul, its the same one. WHat LIVE cd where you rocomending? 02.11.54 # I don't really have a recommendation. 02.12.26 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-50-108.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 02.12.53 # Well I can't get ipodpatcher to detect my ipod, What should I try to do?! 02.13.35 Quit matsl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.13.51 # What sort of iPod was it? 02.14.26 # 4g 02.14.35 # Photo/Color, or Grayscale? 02.14.46 # $g gray scale and im on ME 02.14.51 # Oh, right. 02.14.52 # ME. 02.14.53 # 4G 02.14.58 # ME 02.15.11 # As I said, I'd recommend trying it on an actually modern operating system. 02.15.16 # You told me to use the LIVECD but there are so many 02.15.23 # Knoppix, then. 02.15.42 # okay, I'll try it out 02.15.46 # thanks 02.17.44 Quit ipodpatcherHELP ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.25.02 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 02.25.32 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 02.25.43 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-50-43.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 02.30.58 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.36.25 Quit scottder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.45.31 Quit barrywardell (Client Quit) 02.46.15 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-250-130.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 02.58.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.04.04 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) 03.08.00 # can one with any target other than hxxx and ipod please test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6319 ? 03.10.10 # JdGordon: during you button rework, did you change the behaviour that left now exits the view io ports screen? i think previously it was only exited on release of the off/stop button. 03.10.45 # PaulJam: yes, thats possibly one of the byproducts 03.11.05 # should that screen go back to origional button code? 03.12.21 Join pantalaimon_ [0] (n=pantalai@200.140.17.225) 03.12.26 # now you can't view the ADC_BUTTONS value of the left button, but i can also install an older build to find out the value. 03.12.54 # no, i tihnk it should go back.. 03.13.00 # thats an important screen 03.14.48 Quit rogermudd (Remote closed the connection) 03.17.47 Join pawl90 [0] (i=Paul@202-154-141-105.ras.actrix.co.nz) 03.19.11 # does anyone know the wiki page with the pics of the different iriver remotes? 03.21.18 # hi anyone, i am trying to make the dictionary work on my ipod, i tried to compile rdf2binary.c, i get the error "Error: c:\rdf2binary\rdf2binary.c: 70 operands of < have illegal types 'pointer to struct_iobuf' and 'int'" 03.21.27 # it comes up twice if that makes any difference 03.22.53 # umm... have you edited the file? 03.22.58 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 03.23.06 # if your on linux i can send you the compiled verison, i dnt get those probles 03.23.21 # nope srry im windows. no havn't edited it 03.23.41 # hmm... sorry, cant help you 03.23.55 # the error is in the line " if (in == NULL || idx_out < 0 || desc_out < 0)" apparently 03.24.07 # if anyone can see what is wrong with that 03.25.06 # JdGordon: do you have a CF card i can borrow 03.25.07 # :S 03.25.14 # nope 03.25.17 # that does not make any sense.. 03.25.24 # :( 03.25.25 # pawl90: are you using gcc? which version? 03.26.06 # im usin lcc 03.26.12 # shud i have gcc? 03.26.21 # oh, in fact it does make sense 03.26.34 # idx_out == NULL || desc_out == NULL 03.26.39 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-13-33.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 03.26.40 # you need to fix that 03.26.51 # that line is incorrect.. 03.27.02 # ok. whats wrong wit it? 03.27.37 # those fd:s are not ints but pointers to FILE struct 03.27.55 # srry i hav no programming knowledge can u just tell me what 2 put? 03.28.12 # if (in == NULL || idx_out == NULL || desc_out == NULL) 03.28.15 # change it that way 03.28.31 # cheers 03.29.16 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.30.11 # a fix committed, now trying to sleep more :) 03.35.17 # thanks slasheri, dictionary works perfectly 03.35.19 Quit pawl90 () 03.35.46 Nick myzar|away is now known as myzar (i=pwnt@c-24-103-130-103.client.hacked.us) 03.43.41 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.43.46 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-245-73.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 03.57.54 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.59.24 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.59.38 Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.59.42 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p54985811.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.59.53 Join short1 [0] (n=Administ@74.139.189.23) 04.04.17 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-71-93-15.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.06.29 Join RogerBacon [0] (n=RogerBac@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177840301.dsl.bell.ca) 04.11.33 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-0-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 04.11.39 Part nave7693 04.14.45 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-245-73.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.14.47 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.15.58 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.21.18 Part pantalaimon_ ("Leaving") 04.21.46 Quit short1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.24.21 Quit RogerBacon (Operation timed out) 04.24.47 Quit barrywardell (Client Quit) 04.25.49 Join short1 [0] (n=Administ@74.139.189.23) 04.27.49 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-245-73.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.27.54 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.30.19 Join flyinghippo [0] (i=flyinghi@dialup-4.249.231.155.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net) 04.30.58 # Hm... 5.5G iPods aren't supported, are they? :\ 04.31.07 # No. 04.31.16 # hey i got a little problem... 04.31.31 # u guys ready? 04.31.57 # It's not like the text disappears after you type it if we don't read it quickly enough. 04.32.01 # ok 04.32.21 # well i recently downloaded the newest daily build for my jbr20 04.32.40 # and with my broken charger and all i have to charge the batteries seperately 04.33.10 # and after i put them in and turned on the jbr it gave a level of 98% 04.33.22 # it was like that for about 2 hours until i had to turn it off to do something 04.33.39 # then after i turned it back on, my battery level was down to around 20% 04.34.26 # u guys follow that? 04.34.46 Join [1]thePianoMan [0] (n=thePiano@stproxy.latrobe.edu.au) 04.34.58 # Unfortunately, I don't have much knowledge about the JBR. 04.35.04 # But, how old are the batteries? 04.35.10 # they r fairly new 04.35.23 # engerizer's NIMH batteries 04.35.35 # And is it a JBR v1? 04.35.39 # yes 04.35.55 # If you squeeze the bumpers does it turn off / reset? 04.36.04 # no 04.36.10 # I've heard about loose connections, that can cause battery issues. 04.36.21 # ok 04.36.39 # I don't know where in the wiki the page is, but there's one describing it. 04.37.02 # well this just started last night after i unzipped the nov 10 build 04.37.02 Part [1]thePianoMan 04.37.33 # Correlation does not imply causation. 04.37.43 # Have you rolled back to the build you had before and confirmed that it goes away? 04.38.26 # not yet, i'm currently charging the batt and i downloaded today's build 04.40.16 Join [1]thePianoMan [0] (n=thePiano@stproxy.latrobe.edu.au) 04.41.01 Quit [1]thePianoMan (Client Quit) 04.42.36 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 04.43.15 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.44.05 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-27-21.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.47.17 # JoeBorn! 04.50.19 Quit thePianoMan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.58.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.59.16 # sending out another ping for anyone with a few min to spare and any target other than the hxxx and ipods... 05.02.01 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 05.02.31 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.03.00 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-250-76.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 05.06.32 # PING! 05.06.44 # hopefully you mean pong? 05.06.57 # please only respond if you have a few min to spare and any target other than the hxxx and ipods 05.07.07 # can u test a patch? 05.07.15 # no 05.07.24 # meany 05.15.08 Quit JoeyBorn (Connection timed out) 05.15.18 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-33-134.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 05.27.14 Quit Parachutes ("ALT+F4") 05.28.20 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.55 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-2-14.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 05.34.06 Join mattie47 [0] (n=opera@203.109.217.21) 05.36.12 Part mattie47 05.36.55 Part Paul_the_Nerd 05.38.19 Part short1 05.39.00 Quit bawb2 (Remote closed the connection) 05.41.33 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 05.42.01 Quit funky ("leaving") 05.43.39 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.44.46 # anyone else noticed that the logo displayed when USB is connected doesn't follow alternate screen colours anymore? 05.44.59 # yes 05.47.12 # other than that the 20061111 daily seems best yet to me. remote displays don't get mashed, lots little bugs fixed. yay! 05.48.07 # which target? 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08.28.05 # no 08.28.06 # no 08.28.41 # you can customize it all you want by opening up the source 08.30.58 # k... 08.31.19 # I'll have to scour the patch list 08.31.22 # basically I want to be able to skip to the next/previous folder in a minimal number of button presses from the playback screen 08.32.18 # shall i assume you have an ipod? 08.32.27 # I'm using an archos jukebox recorder 08.32.40 # on+left/right if your lucky 08.33.17 # nope, you cant 08.34.00 Nick myzar|away is now known as myzar (i=pwnt@c-24-103-130-103.client.hacked.us) 08.34.07 # basically if I got to the current track by navigating to it, I can do on,left,down,right,right 08.38.44 # I mean, I understand the significance of keeping backwards compatible with the stock interface... 08.39.02 # why do we care about that? 08.39.08 # it's just that, well, if I thought the stock interface was okay, I wouldn't be using rockbox 08.39.09 # werd 08.39.20 # roockbox is supproted on 7/8 different origioanl firmwares... 08.39.29 # right 08.45.15 Quit sandoaway ("blargh") 08.58.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.59.19 # JdGordon: 7 out of 8? what? 08.59.35 # i think he was saying 7-8 08.59.37 # 7 or 8... or something 09.01.24 # * JdGordon is > < <-that close to giving up on the settings rework 09.02.00 # is that to scale? 09.03.20 # its to _a_ scale... 09.05.36 # scorche: can you test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6319 on your recorder? 09.07.08 # sure...but one question about that patch... 09.07.53 # if navi/select/whatever applies change but doesnt exit dir, will hitting left after that cancel that change? 09.08.02 # no 09.08.15 # Huh? 09.08.19 # alright 09.08.26 # morining amiconn 09.08.41 # What purpose serves "apply but not exit" wrt settings? 09.08.52 Quit shnee_ (Client Quit) 09.08.53 # Most settings are 'live' 09.09.17 # there was a big discussion on the dev ml, that option was the most acceptable 09.09.23 # Imho Left, Right and Select/Navi/Play should all do the same 09.09.35 # i would assume it would be nice for EQ on/off and music related items of that nature 09.10.56 # For most settings, pressing Select/Navi would have exactly _no_ effect 09.11.10 # not with this patch... 09.11.24 # That'd be major irritating 09.11.39 # all the settings are the same with this... they dont get applied untill selecte d(they sstill talk correclty) 09.11.48 # just use right and it selects and exits 09.11.50 # aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 09.12.09 # reply to the dev ml then... 09.12.16 # hrrmmm :(( 09.12.18 # * JdGordon is happy putting in options for the options 09.12.27 # urgh :((( 09.13.52 # * amiconn gets severely pissed and wonders where the simplicity of rockbox vanished :( 09.14.19 # i would think back-cancel select-accept would be much easier and more intuitive 09.14.28 # * JdGordon thinks amiconn should go back to bed for another few hours and have a proper sunday morning sleep in :p 09.14.44 # Hey, it's already past 9 am 09.15.05 # I didnt get out of bed till 10.30 this morning :D 09.15.07 # E.g. not having the volume change live anymore (or bass or treble or...) makes these settings very unintuitive 09.15.34 # I mean _veerrrryy_ unintuitive 09.15.57 # Same goes for lcd brightness, contrast.... 09.16.28 # i didnt see anything about it changing to not live... 09.17.08 # What would be the point of "aceept but not leave" then? 09.17.24 # It wouldn't do anything, as simply moving to that line already sets the option 09.18.07 # Same goes for leaving with Left and live settings 09.18.28 # i dont see a point for it honestly 09.18.41 # i still think leaving needs to be left. 09.18.46 # as do i 09.18.52 # The few settings which are not live are like that for a reason. They require a reboot, or restart of playback, or sth like that 09.19.03 # So even for those "a 09.19.11 # ccept but not leave" makes no sense 09.19.15 # i frequently cancel out of settings accidentally. it makes a lot more sense to use left as "this is good, go back to the menu" and something more cancel-like such as OFF/STOP/MENU to cancel. 09.19.26 # i like the back-cancel select-accept as i said...it seems simplest 09.19.28 Nick myzar is now known as myzar|away (i=pwnt@c-24-103-130-103.client.hacked.us) 09.19.46 # I agree with midkay here 09.19.48 # back-cancel? not back-accept and leave? 09.20.23 # well, simplest assuming cancelling is needed 09.20.27 # Left isn't really associated as cancel, _because_ most settings are live 09.21.02 # right, i think settings should stay live, left should be "accept and leave" (as well as select). it's more intuitive to have stop or off or menu as cancel. 09.21.22 # it's like leaving a menu.. left means "go back", but not "forget what i did here". 09.21.45 # entering and leaving setting screens should be just like navigating the menus.. in and out, up and down. 09.21.50 # Ever since Left became cancel, I often find myself setting the same setting twice... because I set it, then leave with Left .... ARGH! I didn't want to revert!!, enter again, set it, and the have to force myself to use the illogical button 09.22.09 # amiconn: exactly the same here. i don't know why it hasn't been changed back yet. 09.22.10 # ditto 09.22.24 # ditto as well...i have just gotten used to it i guess 09.22.30 # hmm, for some situations it might be nice for settings not to be stored on disk unless explicitly told so. That would make it possible to set some settings for the current session only and after restart, everything would be back again 09.22.34 # it shouldn't be "in and out" for the menus and then "in and in" for the settings. 09.23.11 # Maybe the point here is that Left shouldn't be cancel _because_ settings are live, so as it is now, it doesn't act as "cancel" but rather as "revert", and that's what is illogical 09.24.30 # If we want it to be consistent, Right (and perhaps even Select) don't need to do anything 09.24.40 # amiconn: yeah... if you're browsing like a sound menu, you set it how you want to hear it and think "okay, this is what i want, i'm done here" and you want to go *back*, you don't really think of saving it since you're already listening to it. if you don't like the change then you're thinking of "cancel" or "revert" and that comes pretty natural as OFF or STOP. 09.25.02 # i agree 09.25.15 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 09.25.17 # At least Right because with Right you enter something in the menu tree... and the individual setting already is the deepest level, so you can enter something there 09.26.21 # I never accepted settings with Right before... now I'm forced to 09.26.24 # indeed.. i think select can save as well in case people want to do that (much like select will enter you into a submenu or setting screen or directory).. using select=save isn't entirely, well, consistent (could be taken to mean 'go deeper') but some people may prefer that. 09.26.41 # yes 09.26.44 # i know select=save has been there for several years at least. 09.27.11 # Correct (other than that it is Play on recorders, but that button has the same placement) 09.27.23 # right. 09.28.35 Quit shattered (Remote closed the connection) 09.28.48 # so i think realtime setting applying in conjunction with left = "leave this setting screen, i set it how i want it" and select="i'm ok with this" (both being the same functionality) and off/stop/menu being "cancel out, i don't like this" is how it should really be. 09.33.16 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 09.35.02 Join shattered [0] (n=svs@svs.complife.ru) 09.41.16 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.43.28 # midkay: Almost, but in fact the function of Left could be described as 'Get out of here, I'm done' only, absolutely consistent with the rest of the menu tree 09.43.49 # Left doesn't change the setting because it already changed before due to the live nature of the settings 09.43.50 # fine way to put it. 09.44.44 # What would be in fact debatable is the function of Off/Stop to revert. This now actually executes 2 functions at once: revert _and_ get out of here 09.45.31 # But I think it's more convenient this way (and cancel/revert is imho a rare operation compared to leave it as I set it) 09.46.24 # that's true.. 09.54.09 # hmm, just found a vorbis files crashing on the target but can't crash it on simulator to get the backtrace.. 09.54.13 # -s 09.57.04 # * amiconn just had an idea concerning button actions in plugins 09.57.59 # Afaiu, the main problem is that plugins may both want to specify their own contexts _and_ reuse standard core contexts... 09.58.04 # I05:DivX0 at 0x32F0AA2E, but there is not near that location in vorbis.map 09.58.51 # so we need a way to allow for both. The core uses context IDs, but we cannot use centrally defined IDs for plugins. 09.59.13 # So what about reusing the virtual pointer idea currently used for the language IDs? 09.59.45 # A button ocntext ID would be a plain ID if it falls into a certain, small address range, otherwise it would be a literal pointer 10.00.17 # So plugins could both use the core contexts by using the IDs, and define their own contexts and use the address 10.01.49 # We cannot simply use pointers for all contexts because it would break plugin compatibility with every tiny core change (or we would have to export all core contexts via the plugin api) 10.18.58 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 10.20.44 # amiconn: that could work... 10.20.57 # the bigger problem with the plugins is the lack of generic actions like the core has 10.21.27 # I tihnk we could easily add the directions for all targets, but other buttons are problematic 10.21.54 # I thought about going clockwise around each target giving each button a letter, but realised that wouldnt work well 10.24.44 # Button actions in plugins surely aren't that helpful for consistency across plugins, for this to work the plugins have too much differing needs 10.25.52 # But I think using contexts (even if every single plugin has its own context) might still be helpful: it separates the target specific button handling from the actual actions 10.26.45 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-151-1-15-83.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.27.03 # In fact there is only one context that is worth sharing between several plugins imho, and that is the "Move Left/Right/Up/Down, Zoom In/Out" context 10.28.13 # Hmm, in fact a bunch of simple plugins won't need own contexts 10.29.34 # one thing I started playing with was having a sepearte action handler in the plugin lib, with the basic directions as a context, then each plugin would add its own contexts and reuse others' if they would work... then instead of using the LAST_LIST__NEXT_LIST() macro, the plugin aciton handler would use an array of contexts passed to it by the plugin.. does that makes sense? 10.29.51 # I tinhk that would make it generic enough to not be too much of a hassle 10.30.02 # and powerfull enough for it to work... 10.31.38 # that might be impossible to keep keymaps from conflicting with eachother tho... maybe not... 10.32.14 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 10.33.00 # The separate handler might work... 10.33.34 # ...but in fact using the virtual pointer idea might not even increase the core action handler code size. 10.34.11 # Today there is this custom context bit... which becomes superfluous with virtual pointers 10.34.26 # it would add 1 if() which is nothing... but wouldnt that mean we couldnt group all the keymaps together nicely? 10.34.34 Join webguest53 [0] (i=54bd5c92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 10.34.49 # In case a core action handler needs a custom context, it would just use a plain pointer like a plugin would 10.35.54 Nick webguest53 is now known as pixelma (i=54bd5c92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-611449cbc9135b9f) 10.36.14 # Why wouldn't it allow to group contexts together (apart from that I don't know where you want to group 'em)? 10.37.16 # well, i guess if they were grouped together (i.e in the plugin lib) there might be less work to change over each plugin.. 10.37.21 # and i guess so 10.37.47 # Ok, but why would the virtual pointer idea not allow to do this? 10.38.23 # no, i guess it would.. but could you point from one list to another like you can with the contexts now? 10.38.36 # Yes of course 10.38.59 # ok then, i guess it could work 10.39.03 # This next_list pointer would be such a virtual pointer as well 10.41.39 # ... possible problem... if (button&BUTTON_REMOTE) context |= CONTEXT_REMOTE; is done before checking the context.. this could be moved under, but anyway, with virtual pointers you have to put the remote and main keymaps together.. is that a problem? 10.41.48 # In the core, this would even give you the choice whether you link the contexts via their IDs or their address 10.41.48 # remmeber there are 3 different hxxx remotes.. 10.42.13 # hmm 10.42.41 Nick BHSPitLappy_ is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 10.42.46 # Good question 10.42.51 # Need to think about it 10.43.01 # no, i tihnk id rather stay with the context ids, the action stuff in the core already has provisions for a function to return the button list from a pointer 10.44.47 Join tester [0] (i=54bd76cf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 10.45.15 Quit tester (Client Quit) 10.45.27 Join tester [0] (i=54bd76cf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7923f07abb242337) 10.47.24 Quit tester (Client Quit) 10.49.50 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 10.50.07 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host12-160.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 10.50.57 Join pixelma [0] (i=54bd5c92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 10.53.36 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 10.54.07 # hmm.... the bubbles plugin looks like an easy one to convert and choose a best mothod.. except it only uses left/right/shoot and start 10.55.24 # btw, when moving plugins to actions, i tinhk it would be good to get them to use the multi-screen api at the same time 10.55.37 # ... and langv2 :p 10.58.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.25 # The multi-screen api isn't very usefull for most of the plugins 11.08.10 # Most of those which can deal with multiple screens already do so 11.09.08 # for some it's not possible, for others it doesn't make sense 11.09.37 # Either way, many plugins use graphics, and these graphics need adjustment for every lcd 11.10.11 # The multi-screen api is about widgets which auto-adapt to the various resolutions and depths 11.11.30 Quit midkay (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.13.36 # Plugins using the grayscale library are a very special case. Even though it would be technically possible to implement a remote grayscale library for the iriver remote, it wouldn't be possible to run both the main and remote grayscale overlay at once (but that would be the situation on H1x0) 11.14.57 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 11.15.37 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 11.15.57 # We only have one user timer... :/ 11.17.38 # ok.. 11.18.43 Quit matsl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.18.50 # so then back to actions.. which way do we want to do? using context ids we dont need any change to the core. 11.19.46 # and where wold the best place to put a generic directions list? plugins/directions 11.19.50 # _keys.c ? 11.20.45 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 11.22.53 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46137.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.31.46 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 11.32.34 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 11.32.46 # Hi!!! 11.35.08 # bbl 11.35.09 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC") 11.48.00 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.48.16 Quit idnar (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.48.31 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 11.56.14 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 11.58.56 Join bluebrother [0] (i=8dxESywI@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.03.10 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 12.06.59 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 12.13.34 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@unaffiliated/desowin) 12.13.40 Quit midkay (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.13.43 # Why calculator on sansa e200 sim has wrong size 12.13.59 # not full width 12.14.05 # "QT4 app to upload .scrobbler.log or Ipod OF song databases." <- what that 'Ipod OF song databases.' mean ? 12.14.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog 12.14.16 # Gnelik: probably it hasnt been configured for it yet 12.14.46 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 12.14.52 # desowin: i assume it means it can upload your songs listened to in th apple OS as well as ou r .scrobbler.log 12.15.14 # It use 12.15.14 # REC_WIDTH 12.15.27 # Ha 12.15.27 # i found it 12.15.32 # yeah, I wrote QTScrobbler :P but that description is quite strange for me 12.15.41 # oh, haha 12.15.42 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 12.23.07 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964FCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.23.10 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-250-130.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 12.24.04 # hey barrywardell, does BUTTON_SCROLL_UP/DOWN generate _REPEAT events? 12.24.50 # yes, at the moment anyway it just works like BUTTON_UP/DOWN 12.24.58 # ok, great 12.32.16 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host12-160.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 12.33.57 Quit spiorf (Nick collision from services.) 12.34.01 Nick spiorf_ is now known as spiorf (n=spiorf@host12-160.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 12.34.33 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.38.37 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 12.41.55 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-084-091.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.41.56 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEF3E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.43.05 Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) 12.44.01 Join Blackfish [0] (n=asd@p54837705.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.46.14 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.202.247) 12.46.43 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12.48.14 # I fully aggree with amiconn on the options buttons. I always accept settings with left! Pushing right to go back is somewhat weird and most of the times I have to reenter the setting menu to apply my change. 12.48.27 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-250-130.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 12.49.25 # :'( i wish the people that objected would go to the mailing list where the discussion is happening 12.50.12 # I'd say that if people don't object on the list, we can ignore them 12.50.13 # JdGordon: add me, too on that list :p 12.50.45 # the dev list *HAVE* to be a central dev resource 12.50.53 # Bagder: :) 12.50.53 # That's one of the fun comunication problems around here, some people whing on irc others whining on the ml and some others in the forum 12.51.25 # so isn't IRC for discussion on such things? I don't quite get it 12.51.34 # * XavierGr goes to the list! 12.51.37 # the ml is 100x better than irc purely because discussion can continue without having to wait till people are online 12.51.49 # wooo... some XavierGr action! 12.51.56 # and not all *can* use IRC all the time 12.51.58 # but I think I have already said my preference on the list 12.53.00 # JdGordon: I agree... the ml is more appropriate for discussing such things... and opinions don't get lost through tons of logs 12.53.47 # Bagder: i dont think you have replied to the thread... whats your opinion on the matter? 12.54.25 # but you cannot just ignore the fact that many people object on IRC (generally speaking) 12.54.32 # JdGordon: I don't have time 12.54.37 # so I'm neutral 12.54.50 # :) 12.55.56 # oh, is langv2 actually ready for plugins yet? 12.56.12 # well, the syntax is there to allow it 12.56.20 # but not a lot more 12.56.41 # does anyone actually know what still needs to be done? 12.57.04 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/langv2 12.57.09 # that's the old "plan" 12.57.25 # Jens brought up the topic of actions in plugins and i figured it would be a good time to try getting langv2 going in them also 12.57.26 # yup I just found my reply in the ml :) 12.58.31 # * JdGordon sees XavierGr's reply, its unfortunalty very outvoted tho :p 12.58.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.41 # JdGordon: your settings changes work fine for the H10 12.58.51 # thanks 12.59.12 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.59.39 # wb amiconn, ive got a patch for actions in bubbles, and apart from 1 warning i tihnk it works ok 13.00.05 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-24-158.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.02.32 # JdGordon: do you have a CF or SD card? 13.02.49 # i have a few sd's i tihnk 13.02.58 # by I, i mean my dad 13.03.18 # could i borrow one for 30mins? - which in reality is 2 days 13.03.18 # JdGordon: are you planning on adding that delay to show confirmation? i just tried it with a HZ/10 delay and it feels a lot better, especially for new users. 13.04.11 # barrywardell: well, i dont know if that patch will even make it in... but if it goes in I will add it 13.04.48 Quit alberink ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 13.05.18 # daurn|laptop: whatcha need it for? 13.06.00 # updating firmware on my neuros OSD 13.06.11 # JdGordon: also, the e200 mapping looks OK. I wouldn't worry about it too much anyway since the e200 doesn't even have a working port yet and most of the button mappings will need to be redone anyway.. 13.06.23 # k 13.14.16 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.16.43 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 13.21.51 Quit desowin ("use linux") 13.21.54 # barrywardell: i posted normal mapping for e200 in its forum 13.22.26 Join pixelma [0] (i=54bd6c3a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.22.31 # Gnelik: yes, I noticed that. but haven't tried them yet. I will try them now 13.23.49 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.24.17 # barrywardell:it's like normal e200 firmware do 13.26.16 Join JoeTermini [0] (i=485dd2c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 13.26.37 # hey folks, i got a problem with compiling 13.26.52 # when i try to use the make command, i get "clock skew" errors 13.27.00 # and "your build may be incomplete 13.27.07 # i have a 5g ipod 13.27.14 # ive tried making clean 13.27.34 # and reconfiguring 13.27.39 # and rebuilding it 13.27.45 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 13.27.47 # im using cygwin 13.27.48 # I've seen "make -v" been mentioned, but I don't know what it does 13.27.58 # huh 13.28.01 # that'd just version :D 13.28.03 # it tells me the version of cygwin 13.28.18 # 3.81 13.28.28 # its 13.28.33 # *its built for i686-pc-cygwin 13.28.39 # thats what it says 13.28.51 # I wonder if Bagder is around 13.30.53 # im trying to build it again... 13.31.05 # so far so good 13.31.11 # aw crap 13.31.46 # "make[2]: Warning: File `/cygdrive/c/cygwin/home/terminikids/... has modification time 1.2 s in the future 13.31.51 # 1.2 seconds 13.31.52 # comeon 13.32.11 # would an alternative to cygwin work? 13.33.30 # you could try the vmware image 13.33.54 # Haha, are they only warnings though? Or does the build break? 13.34.22 # what 13.34.25 # break? 13.34.42 # Does the build not complete? 13.34.47 # it tells me clock skews, build may be incomplete, 13.34.49 # so yes 13.35.10 # I don't know, there have been a couple of mentions of this 13.35.23 # if you wait around for a bit, I'm pretty sure someone will be able to help you 13.36.03 Join cA1mAn [0] (n=chatzill@217-162-152-12.dclient.hispeed.ch) 13.36.41 # aight 13.36.44 # JoeTermini: is your clock in fact set correctly? 13.36.54 # hello, is mp3 albumart display (.jpg and embedded in mp3 tag) supported in rockbox for iPod 5G? 13.36.55 # my system clock? 13.36.58 # yeah 13.37.17 # (that yeah was to both questions) 13.37.30 # cA1mAn: Not in the official Rockbox, but there's a patch to add albumart display in the tracker 13.37.59 # get a custom build 13.38.20 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6934.90 13.38.34 # rasher: also jpg and embedded? 13.38.40 # oh wait 13.38.43 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6934.0 13.38.49 # there you go 13.38.59 # cA1mAn: no. Just bmp 13.39.04 Quit JoeTermini ("CGI:IRC") 13.39.17 # rasher: :-( pretty useless for me 13.39.32 Quit damaki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.39.44 # Can't you just convert to bmp and/or extract the embedded album art? 13.41.46 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-151-1-15-83.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.42.17 # rasher: well it's possible, but i think it's not too hard to make the patch for jpg, so i will bravely wait :-) 13.42.52 Quit cA1mAn ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]") 13.43.02 # ping amiconn? 13.44.00 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.44.07 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.47.22 # Gnelik: your keymap looks quite good 13.47.31 # a couple of changes i would make though: 13.48.12 # AB should use power+left/right imho 13.48.19 # barrywardell:Thanks 13.48.29 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.48.58 # JdGordon: ...pong 13.49.17 # you wanna have a look at this bubbles patch? 13.50.03 # Busy with other stuff atm 13.50.10 # target tree mainly 13.50.12 # Gnelik: I also think play should bring you to the WPS 13.50.22 # and long play should stop playback 13.50.54 # amiconn: ok, fs#6320 when you do have time 13.51.00 # are you moving all of sh across? 13.51.15 # What to do with PG_UP and PG_DOWN 13.51.16 # It's impossible to move everything at once 13.51.25 # barrywardell 13.51.28 # Atm I am working on moving the 1 bit bitmap lcd code 13.51.32 # not impossible.. just painful :p 13.52.02 # That one is shared between archos and ifp 13.53.03 # Gnelik: they're necessary, but more of a convenience. i suggest rec+scroll up/down. what do you thing? 13.53.25 # think* 13.53.46 # JdGordon: I prefer doing this by module rather than by target 13.54.00 # ok 13.54.11 # Good idea 13.54.22 # The ata transfer routines are another area... 13.55.31 # barrywardell Keyboard map needs changes to 13.55.59 # ACTION_KBD_DONE - BUTTON_UP 13.56.11 # ACTION_KBD_SELECT - BUTTON_SELECT 13.59.03 # ok, i'll change that here 14.02.31 # Gnelik: i think power should be used to exit pitch and quick screens 14.05.48 # and power should exit the keyboard too 14.06.24 # barrywardell: yes 14.06.53 Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) 14.07.24 # left defination ACTION_NONE, BUTTON_LEFT|BUTTON_REL 14.07.31 # in quick screen 14.08.52 Quit akaias (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.12.02 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 14.12.40 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 14.13.32 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 14.18.44 # Gnelik: what do you think about the bookmark screen? i was thinking rec for delete since it shouldn't be too easy to do by accident. also, power to exit to be consistent with the other screens? 14.19.20 # See this is how things should've been done for the h1x0 as well. Instead, we 14.19.25 # 're now left with this mess 14.19.44 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@76.16.18.102) 14.19.46 # barrywardell: it would be great 14.20.35 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 14.21.24 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-250-47.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 14.34.35 # Stop the screen screen on ipod could significantly increase the duration of the battery? 14.35.18 # no 14.35.29 # A little bit perhaps, but not significantly 14.36.19 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@86.207.110.254) 14.37.35 # Gnelik: do you think RIGHT should be ACTION_STD_OK as well as/instead of SELECT? 14.37.42 # ok 14.38.06 # it's hard to tell in the sim 14.38.52 # its hard to push it sometimes 14.39.03 # true 14.39.17 # so not instead of. how about as well as? 14.39.17 # and i dont think somebodey will use it 14.39.37 # i'll leave it alone until we can test it on a real sansa 14.43.47 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.43.59 # barrywardell: how do the work with ata drv going?? 14.44.15 # i made some progress last night 14.44.36 # solved the problem we were having reading the csd/cid 14.44.52 # now we can properly detect the size of the flash on the sansa 14.45.10 # but bank switching still doesn't work yet 14.49.15 Join joetermini [0] (i=485dd2c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.49.58 # Did you rtry to run Rockbox 14.50.04 # with 4 gb 14.50.11 # without swiching 14.50.12 # any ideas 14.50.12 # when i try the "make" command when im compiling, i get "clock skew detected" and "build incomplete" 14.50.18 # barrywardell: 14.50.21 # i have a 5g ipod 14.50.31 # ive tried make clean 14.50.40 # not much is working 14.50.42 # Gnelik: i only have an 8gb 14.50.53 # haven't tried running Rockbox yet 14.51.08 # it doesn't even compile properly yet 14.52.25 # ... 14.52.32 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54933E09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.52.53 # any ideas for the clock skew? 14.53.34 # joetermini: from your forum post, it seems to be just warnings - have you tried doing a "make install" afterwards and running the sim? 14.53.35 Quit joetermini (Client Quit) 14.53.57 Join JoeTermini [0] (i=485dd2c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.54.16 # joeTermini: from your forum post, it seems to be just warnings - have you tried doing a "make install" afterwards and running the sim? 14.54.52 # ive tried making a sim and the build 14.54.58 # i get clock skew on both 14.55.08 # JoeTermini: Are you using a FAT32 partition? 14.55.11 # yes 14.55.21 # JoeTermini: have you tried to go ahead and attempt to run the sim? 14.55.26 # Do you have an NTFS partition you can use? I recall someone saying it's a FAT issue. 14.55.34 # i cant make the sim 14.55.35 # um 14.55.35 # The clock skew is just a warning, it might still work 14.55.39 # i dont have an ntfs 14.55.50 # but it also says build incomplete 14.55.52 # Something to do with FAT only having a 2 or 3 second filetime accuracy. 14.56.00 # no, it says it *might* be incomplete 14.56.29 # oh yeah 14.56.39 # ill try running the sim 14.58.01 # just ran the make command... 14.58.21 # lots of .5 seconds in the future 14.58.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.58.51 # okay, ignore those... run make install afterwards, then try running rockboxui 14.59.48 # k 15.00.49 Join Tempis2 [0] (n=Tempis@cpe-24-160-16-107.sw.res.rr.com) 15.05.12 # OK: so i ran the sim, and now the sim shows a blank box with the top bar of rockbox 15.05.20 # That's the sim 15.05.21 # (which has the volume, battery exc 15.05.33 # ya 15.05.40 # you may run it with --background to get an image of the player with buttons named 15.05.40 # it ran, but nothings there 15.05.50 # What did you expect to be there? 15.06.02 # i thought it would have all the options 15.06.08 # ive never gotten the sim to work 15.06.10 # IT does, if you enter the menu 15.06.18 # It behaves like Rockbox does 15.06.27 # i got that 15.06.27 # This is the screen you see the first time you start Rockbox 15.06.40 # now try rockboxui --background 15.06.44 # should be slightly helpful 15.07.16 # aaaahhhh 15.08.06 # so when i get the same sort of errors when i make the actual build, i can ignore them 15.08.19 # More than likely 15.11.59 # im compiling a test build now 15.12.06 # how do i get the sim to run that build 15.12.10 # does it automatically do it 15.12.18 # uh oh 15.13.37 # The sim doesn't run a build. 15.13.49 # The sim is a build itself 15.13.56 # oh 15.14.05 # so when i patch it, i make sim 15.14.13 # barrywardell: When you start simulator is RB logo inverted??? 15.14.14 # yeah 15.15.06 # yes 15.15.07 # alright, guys, thanks a ton 15.15.20 # though ill probably be back cuz something will go wrong 15.15.29 # should be easy to fix though 15.17.26 Quit JoeTermini ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.17.28 Join JoeTermini [0] (i=485dd2c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.17.36 # oh, another question 15.18.01 # when i implement a patch, and i get failed hunks, im supposed to change the files manually right? 15.18.10 # how do i know what to put where 15.19.09 Quit Tempis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.19.13 # and when i get a patch off the tracker, sometimes it will include a .c or a .h file 15.19.18 # where do i put those 15.19.23 # i know .c is a rock 15.21.51 Quit JoeTermini (Client Quit) 15.24.20 Join JoeTermini [0] (i=485dd2c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.24.42 # when i get failed hunks when patching, how do i know where to manually patch 15.24.44 # like, what line 15.24.45 # barrywardell: will you commint new keymap to cvs, if not give me a new version plz/ 15.25.12 # yes, i will commit it. just one more problem to fix first 15.25.34 # the listtree_scroll stuff 15.25.46 # What is it? 15.26.57 # there are two possibilities depending on a setting 15.27.17 Quit JoeTermini (Client Quit) 15.27.32 # holding left can either bring you back to the root directory or scroll text that is too long for the screen 15.27.45 Join webguest58 [0] (i=58da119e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.28.11 Quit Genre9mp3 (Nick collision from services.) 15.28.12 # you can either have it set to scroll the text with a hold of left/right or with left/right+another button 15.29.01 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 15.30.37 Quit webguest58 (Client Quit) 15.39.22 Quit Coldtoast ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 15.40.21 # Bagder: Is there any time frame for switching to svn? 15.40.47 # I would like to move more stuff to target tree, things which are already separated 15.41.17 # But by doing this now we would lose the history... 15.41.31 # I mean things like lcd-ipodvideo.c 15.45.00 # Gnelik: i gotta go now. here's the latest keymap i have: http://pastebin.ca/246671 15.45.42 # the problems with listtree_scroll and also backspace on the keyboard need to be fixed, then i will commit it 15.47.20 # Bakspace is down maybe? 15.47.28 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.47.35 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 15.47.50 # barrywardell 15.54.54 # yes, sounds reasonable 15.54.57 # gotta go 15.55.08 Quit barrywardell (Client Quit) 16.03.00 Join nofx [0] (n=nofx@69-171-104-34.chvlva.adelphia.net) 16.06.07 Quit rasher (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.06.58 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 16.09.53 Quit JoeyBorn ("Leaving") 16.10.11 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 16.23.58 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 16.26.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15794.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.33.26 Quit flyinghippo (":D") 16.34.08 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484BE66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.34.24 Join webguest41 [0] (i=5950bebb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 16.37.13 Quit myzar|away (Remote closed the connection) 16.37.31 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 16.45.47 Part Paul_the_Nerd 16.48.31 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.51.59 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B174BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.58.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.08.22 Join tkdydwk [0] (i=bernhard@p54965ED8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.11.28 # hmmm, having browsed the FAQ headings I'm still not sure if I'm right here. *sigh* 17.11.48 Join menosm_ [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 17.12.27 # I want to know if somebody with a "virgin" iAUDIO X5 made a HD image and maybe, just maybe found a deleted file "TEST.BIN" somewhere;) 17.12.56 # the original firmware seems to search this, maybe even for execution, so I'm very curious. 17.13.20 Quit lini (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.14.37 Join Skyrunner [0] (n=udo@xdsl-84-44-168-93.netcologne.de) 17.14.37 Quit Skyrunner (Killed by sagan.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 17.15.59 Join Skydemon_ [0] (n=udo@xdsl-84-44-168-93.netcologne.de) 17.17.42 Quit menosm (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.17.57 Nick menosm_ is now known as menosm (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 17.23.07 Quit webguest41 ("CGI:IRC") 17.25.28 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=chatzill@ppp111-70.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 17.28.13 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. 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I ran battery_bench on my mini 2g ipod overnight -- has anyone noticed battery_bench not being necessarily accurate? i got about 15 hours of actual playback, whereas the battery_bench.txt stopped recording at 10h39s. 17.33.08 # how many tracks did you set it to loop through? 17.33.42 # about 20. 2 albums' worth of --preset standard MP3 (lame 3.92, I believe) 17.35.26 # so more than 32 mb then... 17.35.36 # yeah, definitely 17.36.37 # the last entry said that it had 6% left 17.37.40 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081ABA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.38.16 # hello 17.43.43 Quit michaelconner ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.45.43 # hello all 17.45.52 # how do i avoid such things? 17.45.54 # * Home 17.45.54 # * News 17.45.54 # * Premium-Zone 17.45.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK blue_lizard 17.45.54 # o Premium-Zone betreten 17.45.54 # o PREMIUM-Passwort vergessen? 17.45.55 *** Alert Mode level 1 17.45.55 # o PREMIUM-Benutzer werden 17.45.56 Quit blue_lizard (Excess Flood) 17.46.27 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p54985811.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.46.43 # damed 17.46.45 # really sorry 17.48.18 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 17.48.34 # implicit declaration of function `gui_bitmap_scrollbar_draw' 17.48.39 # how do i avoid that? 17.53.38 # You need to #include the .h file that defines that function. 17.53.46 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 17.54.25 # that make things even vorser because its is only an warning 17.54.34 # but if i include the h file i get 17.54.37 # gui/scrollbar.h:27: error: redeclaration of enumerator `VERTICAL' 17.55.23 # in the file i work on there is even no "VERTICAL" 17.55.52 # it also complaina about redeclaration of enumerator `HORIZONTAL' 17.55.56 *** Alert Mode OFF 17.56.05 # i use HORIZONTAL but i dont redeclare it 18.01.20 # gcc doesn't lie - somehow VERTICAL is being declared twice... Do you also include widgets.h ? 18.02.11 # Or does gcc tell you where the previous definition was? 18.05.06 # > grep -R VERTICAL * | grep "\.h" 18.05.07 # gui/scrollbar.h: VERTICAL = 0x0000, /* Vertical orientation */ 18.05.07 # gui/scrollbar.h: * - orientation : either VERTICAL or HORIZONTAL 18.05.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK blue_lizard 18.05.07 # plugins/doom/r_defs.h: ST_VERTICAL, 18.05.07 # recorder/widgets.h: VERTICAL = 0, 18.06.30 # i am not including widget.h but it seem some other file includes it 18.08.23 # i include plugin.h which includes widget.h 18.08.30 # what a mess 18.08.35 # Are you writing a plugin? 18.09.05 # no i am working on onplay.c which is part of the core 18.09.18 # and i was not the guy inserting that include 18.09.43 # Ah, OK. onplay.c launches plugins, so I guess that's why plugin.h is included. 18.10.28 # error: `PLUGIN_USB_CONNECTED' undeclared <- seems so i i comment it out 18.12.12 # Seems that the scrollbar function in recorder/widgets.c is only used in one place - the audio thread debug screen... 18.13.53 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.14.14 Join RogerBacon [0] (n=RogerBac@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177840301.dsl.bell.ca) 18.14.54 # Ah no, it's also exported in the plugin API and used in a few plugins. 18.15.02 Quit matsl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.19.22 # would it be possible to use the same declaration for both purposes? 18.19.40 # at least vertical is declared to 0 on both places 18.20.33 Quit spiorf (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.21.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host12-160.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 18.21.27 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 18.22.17 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.23.45 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-121-139.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.25.06 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 18.29.03 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host12-160.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 18.36.30 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.40.14 Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") 18.40.36 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-3-23.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 18.41.46 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 18.53.00 Join menosm_ [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 18.53.01 Quit RogerBacon ("Quitte") 18.56.08 # blue_lizard, linuxstb: Maybe that there are two scrollbar implementations now? If so, one should go, as it would be a waste of space... 18.56.25 Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-66-68.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.58.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.05 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 18.59.31 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 18.59.37 Join voyeur [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec9f9cc2ef8877f2) 19.01.47 Quit menosm (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.04.52 # amiconn: i don't think so, i belive thah HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL are defined at two places for two purposes 19.05.32 # if they would share the same values an single definition should be enough 19.16.35 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-3-228.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.23.33 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.24.59 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 19.24.59 Quit nofx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.25.01 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp62-203.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.25.08 Quit Skydemon_ ("bye bye") 19.25.43 Join smp500 [0] (n=steven@adsl-068-159-099-201.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) 19.28.23 Join WalterEgo [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 19.28.28 Nick WalterEgo is now known as PaulPosition (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 19.28.59 Nick PaulPosition is now known as WalterEgo (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 19.33.37 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484BE66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.36.53 Join menosm__ [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 19.36.54 Nick menosm__ is now known as menosm (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 19.40.06 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.40.44 # wich kernel is rockbox based on ? close to GNU/Linux ? 19.40.48 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.41.03 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b7bf0.ucd.ie) 19.41.10 # voyeur: it's not based on anything, it's written from scratch 19.41.10 Quit Coldtoast ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 19.41.20 # k 19.41.25 # FAQ hit 19.42.43 Quit menosm_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.44.44 Quit barrywardell (Client Quit) 19.45.25 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.45.32 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b7bf0.ucd.ie) 20.03.38 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 19 minutes and 13 seconds at the last flood 20.03.38 # * ender` yawns 20.04.49 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 20.05.09 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@nat01-silvers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 20.07.14 Quit voyeur ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.07.15 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 20.09.05 # Has pure magenta been used as transparency mask to make sure no one could create an Hello-kitty WPS? Greatest idea ever. ;) 20.09.09 Join k0oba [0] (n=bro@204.234.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) 20.09.20 # haha 20.10.59 # hello all, i need the help of someone after reading the manual i am not sure how to format my old archos jukebox 6000 with rockbox firmware iinstalled anyone would have 2 minutes to help me to do it without doin any mistakes? thx for teaching a noob :) 20.11.45 Join BlackHoleOfCode [0] (n=BlackHol@69-172-138-70.atlsfl.adelphia.net) 20.12.06 # Why do you need formatting? 20.12.20 # because i wanna clean verything 20.12.25 # i wanna make it empty 20.12.45 # i thought it could be good for it 20.12.48 # to format 20.13.17 # after so much time of upload delete... 20.13.22 # I don't know much about the archos, can't help much.. Does the manual suggests you do? 20.14.15 # delete the archos.mod file. // delete the .rockbox folder 20.14.15 # and its contents. Turn the Archos off. 20.14.15 # Turn the player back on and the original Archos software will load. 20.14.46 # am afraid to do this :/ 20.14.50 # lol 20.15.10 # need a confirmation u see 20.15.14 # ;) 20.15.18 # I'd rather go with the instruction and delete only the .rockbox folder.. 20.15.26 # <_Veseliq_> http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ 20.15.50 # Formatting will remove anything from the disk, even original system files from Archos... 20.16.03 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-111-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.16.36 # yeah 20.16.43 # that what i thought too walt 20.18.00 # but rockbox manual says this 20.18.02 # Since I don't know the target, I can't tell if its gonna boot AT ALL after a disk format.. Better you go and post on the forums.. Needs some patience waiting for an answer but at least, you'll have a REAL answer.. 20.18.03 # mmm 20.18.15 # The part you quoted says DELETE not FORMAT. 20.18.24 # You can't format a directory/folder. 20.18.47 # yeah u right man 20.19.53 # well am gonna try to look deeper in the web 20.19.56 # to check 20.20.08 # thx for answers m8 20.21.31 # good luck 20.21.37 # :) 20.21.54 # need a reboot 20.21.58 Quit k0oba () 20.22.09 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 20.22.57 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 20.23.31 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 20.26.00 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 20.27.23 Quit midgey34 () 20.29.03 Quit GreyFoux ("Le vrai danger, c'est quand les hommes penseront comme les ordinateurs") 20.29.18 Join yipe [0] (n=yipe@12-218-163-227.client.mchsi.com) 20.30.27 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-111-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.33.43 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 20.34.51 # dan_a: have you tried my improved nand driver? 20.35.11 # it finally reads type 2 responses properly 20.35.17 # barrywardell: Not yet - I've only just got in! I'm having a look at the differences now. 20.36.13 # we basically have to read 9 16-bit words of response and ignore the first and last 8-bits 20.37.04 # I wonder how the OF gets away with only reading 8 words, then. Still, if it works for us, then that's a good thing :D 20.38.23 # I think you've used a bit more space than you need to in the tSDCardInfo structure 20.39.41 # the last half word is a checksum, which the OF probably just ignores 20.40.34 # oops, yes. that should be 4, rather than 9 20.40.44 # I've ignored the checksums so far, but I think I should probably calculate them and retry if the values don't match 20.40.48 # i mean 4 rather than 8 20.42.03 # I'm just testing it now... 20.42.44 Join rconan_ [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.43.04 Quit rconan (Nick collision from services.) 20.43.22 Join DarkDaemon [0] (i=TMD@dsl-207-112-70-11.tor.primus.ca) 20.43.26 Nick rconan_ is now known as rconan (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.43.34 # I get a capacity of just over 2,000,000,000 bytes. Looks good to me :D 20.44.52 # hiya 20.45.18 # dan_a: it should be the same as the output of dmesg 20.45.26 # is there a page that compares rockbox to ipod linux? 20.46.22 # DarkDaemon: I don't think so. iPod Linux puts Linux on your iPod, Rockbox attempts to be the best audio player firmware that there is. We have different goals. 20.46.38 # ah ic 20.46.43 # I think there's a short comparison on the IpodLinux page 20.47.11 # so i'm getting a new ipod video 80bg black 20.47.26 # whould i use rockbox or wait for ipod linux to support it? 20.47.30 # should* 20.47.41 # rockbox doesn't support it yet 20.47.49 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.48.23 # ic 20.48.40 # hypotheically: lets say both ipl and rockbox supported it 20.48.45 # whiich one should i use? 20.48.58 # * n1s looks at the channel name ;-) 20.49.01 # Whichever suits you 20.49.12 # or both 20.49.21 # 0o0o0 both? 20.49.55 # so if i am in a gaming mood i use ipl and if i am in a music mood i can use rock box? 20.50.08 # Yes 20.50.09 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@xdsl-84-44-168-93.netcologne.de) 20.50.09 Quit Skydemon (Killed by sagan.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 20.50.20 # ic 20.50.50 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@xdsl-84-44-168-93.netcologne.de) 20.50.51 # so whats different about the 80gb video? 20.50.55 # tht it cant be supported? 20.52.44 # the harddisk is strange 20.53.34 # anything i can do to help? 20.53.41 # i know a few programming languages 20.53.45 # no idea, to be honest 20.54.28 # aight kool 20.54.33 # thanx alot for the help 20.54.47 # i think i will wait till ipl and rockbox support the new iods 20.54.49 # ipods 20.54.51 # then i will buy one 20.55.07 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 20.55.51 Quit midkay (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.56.15 # barrywardell: It matches up with the dmesg output. 20.56.34 Quit DarkDaemon ("-= TMD-RecruitServer 5.0=-") 20.56.48 # great, now i just need to figure out why it crashes when initializing the bank switching 20.58.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.58.53 # I'd look at the line "while((STATUS_REG & FIFO_FULL) == 0) {}" 20.59.37 # We're a bit unsure on when the FIFO_FULL bit gets set, so maybe replacing that with udelay(100) will help 20.59.51 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 20.59.58 Join webguest04 [0] (i=5873b21c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.59.59 # i'll try it, thanks 21.01.14 Join k0oba [0] (n=bro@204.234.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) 21.01.34 Join DarkDaemon [0] (i=TMD@dsl-207-112-70-11.tor.primus.ca) 21.01.40 # lol back 21.01.50 # forgot to ask u guys one thing 21.02.17 # whts it called when u use a sponge thing to scratch stuff on to the back of ur ipod 21.02.39 # i was looking at it a month or so ago and now i forgot the name 21.03.33 # you mean like a marker? 21.03.39 # no 21.03.42 # uh?? scratch *what* off the back of the ipod? 21.03.42 # something brushed 21.03.49 # you mean like etch? 21.04.08 # * amiconn now has a backdrop on his h140 :) 21.04.10 # The brushed steel look? 21.04.16 # amiconn: Uhwha? 21.04.21 # something like this 21.04.22 # : 21.04.23 # http://members.optusnet.com.au/brushedipod/mm/stationery/VertPic/ipod13s.jpg 21.04.33 # the pic i saw, the guy had a flame look going 21.04.35 # grayscale eyecanyeh! 21.04.43 # candeh dammit! 21.04.45 # ah.. paul was right 21.04.54 # Darkdeamon - That's what Paul meant with brushed steel.. 21.05.07 # so its called brushed steel? 21.05.14 # * DarkDaemon is such a nub 21.05.14 # XD 21.05.16 # unless you mean like the ipod, apple logo, and 20gb... that's etching 21.05.21 # but the rest is brushed steel 21.05.30 # That's the name of the 'style', yes. 21.05.50 # amiconn: So what, using grayscale lib, or just using the lighter shade of gray primarily? 21.05.51 # oh ok 21.05.55 # kool 21.05.55 # ty 21.06.05 # http://www.ipodwizard.net/wiki/images/thumb/1/13/Brushed-flames.jpg/200px-Brushed-flames.jpg 21.06.06 # Paul_the_Nerd: The latter. 21.06.07 # OH SNAP 21.06.08 # i found it 21.06.12 # io WalterEgo am tring something ... i hope it will work 21.06.14 # The grayscale lib is a no-no in the core 21.06.16 # ;) 21.08.14 Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) 21.08.16 # * Paul_the_Nerd tries to think how he'd use backdrops on grayscale. 21.08.52 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.162.10) 21.09.00 Join senab [0] (n=chris@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.09.04 # so is doing something like this safe 21.09.05 # ? 21.09.05 # http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/45/0000009945/82/img2b7314959qonc9.jpeg 21.09.21 # Depends what you mean by safe 21.09.30 # does it void warrenty? 21.09.48 # Good question, really 21.10.02 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.11 # rofl 21.10.12 # I'm sure they'd like to say that you've modified your ipod, but frankly, it's just a lot of scratches 21.10.15 # I don't know 21.10.27 # it looks so cool 21.11.28 # has anyone got any idea why this is happening when i try and compile? "make: *** [all] Error 2" 21.11.45 # You need to supply some more output (leading up to that error) 21.12.02 # i'm just uploading a terminal log now 21.12.08 # what's the best way to deal with an integer larger that 32-bit? 21.13.15 # Just define it as int64_t or uint64_t 21.14.06 # log: http://www.senab.co.uk/log.txt 21.14.12 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 21.14.17 # * k0oba seomeone know what to do with a 21.14.20 # it was working the other day... 21.14.21 # * k0oba .ajz file 21.14.22 Join Zagnar [0] (i=4a80717a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.14.46 # k0oba: put it on jour archos? 21.14.50 # your 21.15.18 # senab: try make veryclean 21.15.24 # senab: Try doing a "make clean" in the tools/ directory. Also, make sure you've done a "cvs update" in there - some new files were added. 21.15.40 # i format my archos now and site archos sas to copy and paste firmaware .aos and what i download from site is a .ajz 21.15.45 Quit Zagnar (Client Quit) 21.15.54 # wtf 21.17.12 # nope, still not compiling 21.17.25 # Copy and paste the downloaded firmware (.AOS file) to your ARCHOS device. and the downloaded firmware is ajb6000_v5.07a.ajz ... what can i do ? n1s u know ? 21.17.47 # senab: and you have run cvs update for your source dir? 21.17.58 # k0oba: afaik it is supposed to be .ajz but why put of back on? 21.18.04 # should be fine 21.18.13 # i do a cvs update everytime i compile 21.18.14 # http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=AJZ 21.18.15 # senab: Try "make V=1" - that may give you more output. 21.18.32 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 21.18.48 # linuxstb: thanks. is there any way for snprintf to work with ints bigger than 32-bit? 21.19.04 # it's stopping on this: make -C /home/chris/rockbox/firmware OBJDIR=/home/chris/rockbox/build5g/firmware 21.19.10 # barrywardell: The Rockbox implementation probably doesn't support 64-bit ints... 21.19.29 # n1s if i have formatted the archos disk there is no more firmware inside right ? 21.19.46 # senab: cvs update -d 21.20.20 # k0oba: the archos firmware is in flash and not on the disk, you should be fine after a format, just copy rockbox to the disk :-) 21.20.22 # hmmm, i was using cvs up -dP to update anyway 21.20.31 # oki 21.20.40 # Don't know 21.20.56 # senab: Is it just the 5g build that's not working? Have you tried others? 21.21.17 # dunno, i'll try some others now 21.21.37 # Did you try to make veryclean? 21.21.46 # n1s u think i can copy all the lil files i did backup before formatting included the .rockbox folder and the archos.mod and others ? 21.21.58 # rasher: yes i tried a veryclean 21.22.14 # it's just the 5g 21.22.16 # * k0oba sorry to bother with my shitty player 21.22.27 # senab: Do you have any patches? 21.22.33 # .. applied 21.22.45 # k0oba: If i understand you cotrrectly: yes ;-) 21.22.53 # yes, but its not even getting to the patched files yet 21.23.09 # it's compiling a ipod mini now 21.23.18 # Try with a fresh checkout anyway.. 21.23.26 # thats what i'm going to do 21.24.12 # the forum seems really shakey... 21.24.29 # shakey? 21.24.43 # goes down almost every day... 21.24.54 # hey if i brush my ipod into a flame design 21.24.57 # or is it just me? 21.25.01 # can u change it to another design later? 21.25.24 # DarkDaemon: This channel is mostly about the Rockbox firmware... not so much about iPods, or external mods 21.25.35 # ok 21.25.36 # srry 21.25.38 # i will stop 21.25.43 # DarkDaemon - Well, probly not unless you buy some sort of laque and repaint it. 21.25.54 # (and it might be risky business) 21.26.19 # ic 21.26.22 # thanx alot 21.26.25 # for all ur help 21.26.27 Quit DarkDaemon ("-= TMD-RecruitServer 5.0=-") 21.26.46 Quit Skydemon ("bye bye") 21.28.18 # is it me or is the rockbox server a bit slow tonight? 21.29.52 # n1s works perfectly before archos empty i had 3,5 Go Free now after format i got : 5,58 Free space thx m8 for ur assistance ;) 21.30.01 # * k0oba happy 21.30.04 # np 21.30.07 # senab: Rockbox, or forums.rockbox? 21.30.21 # the cvs server 21.30.24 # Ah 21.30.45 # its took me 5 mins for a fresh checkout so far, and it still hasn't finished yet 21.30.54 # oh well lol 21.30.59 # Are you using "-z3" ? 21.31.07 # yep 21.31.28 # am i doing something wrong then? 21.32.22 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new IRC era") 21.32.24 # c u next year thanks rockbox developperz 21.32.26 # :) 21.32.41 Quit k0oba () 21.33.48 Part Paul_the_Nerd 21.34.09 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p54931F01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.34.43 # we're done.... finally lol 21.35.44 # senab: No, -z3 is fine. www.rockbox.org and cvs.rockbox.org are on the same server, with a 2Mbit/s connection, so it does get slow occasionally. 21.36.10 Join mattvt [0] (n=Jengarne@blacksburg-bsr1-69-174-64-3.chvlva.adelphia.net) 21.37.04 # 2mbit? that is a bit slow, are the forums hosted on that too? 21.37.29 # Nope 21.37.40 # forums.rockbox.org is a different server on a different line in a different location 21.37.44 # very different, in short 21.38.09 # The 2mbit line copes surprisingly well most of the time 21.38.25 # i was gonna say, 2mbits for a www, forums and cvs server = oh dear 21.38.36 # and ftp i'm guessing 21.38.47 # Ftp? 21.38.49 # hey anyone know anything about installing rockbox on the h10? 21.38.55 # i can't get mine to start in ums mode 21.39.09 Quit spiorf (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.39.16 # There's also download.rockbox.org, which is on a fat pipe 21.39.19 # scrap ftp, i was talking crap 21.39.48 # is anyone any good at bash shell scripts? 21.40.07 # Decent, what's your problem? 21.40.10 # matt- What steaps have you taken? 21.40.20 # steps. 21.40.32 # just followed the manual 21.40.43 # basically i want to take a patch rockbox using all the patches in a directory 21.40.44 # senab: As rasher said, it works fine most of the time. 21.41.00 # hit the reset button, connect the usb, hold the next button and turn it on, still holding the next button until it boots to the usb connected screen 21.41.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@82.52.160.12) 21.41.07 Join Parachutes [0] (n=jmlane@unaffiliated/Jon-) 21.41.14 # i wrote a shell script for cygwin months ago but kinda deleted accidentally 21.41.19 # but it still boots in mtp mode 21.42.12 # Forget about 'next' button.. 21.42.20 # It should be the -O- button 21.42.34 # Next as in menu navigation, not next as in FastForward 21.42.54 # You also.. The one just right of the scrollpad. 21.43.02 # ah ah 21.43.03 # ok 21.43.24 # try and ask again if it doesn't work :) 21.43.33 Quit smp500 ("Konversation terminated!") 21.43.37 # nope, that worked 21.43.38 # thanks 21.43.44 # :) Np 21.45.36 Join grrraham [0] (i=577106c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.45.52 Join smp501 [0] (n=steven@adsl-068-159-099-201.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) 21.46.54 Quit grrraham (Client Quit) 21.47.23 Join grrraham [0] (i=577106c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.47.28 Quit grrraham (Client Quit) 21.47.52 Join grrraham [0] (i=577106c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.48.14 # i wonder if the naming of prev and next should be changed in the H10 manual. it can be quite confusing 21.48.33 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.48.46 # Left and Right maybe? 21.49.32 # i would have called the buttons on the front back and enter 21.49.39 # and the ones on the side prev and next 21.49.46 # How are they name in the original fw's manual? 21.49.52 # Hi. If anyone out there's got a mo, trying to get doom running. Got .wad in /games/doom ......... 21.50.18 # not sure...i'd look but dont know where mine is 21.50.52 # Cancel and Select, just checked... Don't like that nomenclature anymore though.. :p 21.52.10 # :) 21.52.26 # grrraham: Do you have both rockdoom.wad and doom.wad? 21.52.53 Quit senab (Remote closed the connection) 21.53.36 # just doom1.wad in /games/doom/ 21.54.46 # hold on 21.54.50 Part Parachutes ("Parting channel") 21.57.10 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 21.58.00 # linuxstb: thankyou. very impressive!! 21.58.22 # i think having the guide on page 15 of the manual higher up would avoid the "next" confusion - or at least a reference to it in the ums boot instruction section 22.01.25 Quit barrywardell () 22.03.13 Quit MarcoPolo ("Bye !") 22.03.30 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 22.04.30 Quit grrraham ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.06.08 # ehyoo, it seems I've been searching in all the wrong places. 22.06.21 # so... see you all 22.07.14 Part tkdydwk 22.07.25 Join Ed__ [0] (i=ed@palm.hoeg.nl) 22.08.39 Quit Ed_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.14.11 Join voyeur [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.15.24 Quit voyeur (Client Quit) 22.16.15 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 22.19.45 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 22.25.06 Quit WalterEgo () 22.30.23 # How come when I plug it in with the wall adapter, it goes to disk mode and reboots forever (5G)? 22.30.42 Quit SUSaiyan ("Ex-Chat") 22.30.47 # because you don't hold down menu button 22.30.48 # you need to hold down something when you plug the wall adapter 22.31.09 Quit weyer ("leaving") 22.31.24 # told you. 22.33.42 # thx! 22.35.34 Quit Rondom (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.35.39 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=susaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 22.40.39 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 22.41.06 Quit Ed__ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.43.44 Part smp501 ("Konversation terminated!") 22.44.01 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD6850.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.44.55 Join senab [0] (n=chris@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.45.14 # just compiled rockbox 22.45.45 # now when i try and view directorys they're not in alphabetical order 22.45.55 # has anyone else noted this? 22.46.03 # Did you perhaps change the sorting order? 22.46.27 # is there a sorting order setting? 22.46.42 # Yup, under file view 22.46.51 # oh ye, silly me 22.47.01 # dunno how that got changed 22.47.24 # i'm having a bit of mental block tonight, forgive me lol 22.47.25 # :) 22.48.25 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 22.48.51 # hmmm seems some of the default settings are a bit wrong 22.48.56 # eq is on by default 22.49.14 Quit webguest04 ("CGI:IRC") 22.50.01 # senab: building a patched version? 22.50.20 # yep, but only wps patches 22.50.41 # one of the patches maybe added some settings without changing the config block version 22.50.49 # reset the settings by hand 22.50.53 # true 22.51.33 # i like the new menu header with the level up directory at the top 22.52.47 Join steveb_ [0] (i=steve@pan.object4.net) 22.52.59 Join scorche [0] (n=ScorchE@cpe-76-171-123-86.socal.res.rr.com) 22.54.14 Part steveb_ ("<.>") 22.55.43 # has the keypress enables backlight only setting been taken out 22.55.50 # *? can't see it anywhere? 22.55.53 # no 22.56.27 # i'm looking in the wrong menu, woops 22.56.30 # LCD Settings 22.57.10 # found it, cheers 22.57.25 Quit senab (Remote closed the connection) 22.58.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.59.43 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.03.02 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 23.04.30 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.11.23 Join rconan_ [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.11.41 Quit rconan_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.13.33 # can i install windows vista on my x5? 23.14.17 # As in, using the X5 for a harddrive? 23.14.42 # lol no nvm :D 23.15.56 # Vista might be hard, I have a working port of XP, not ready post it yet to the tracker, but I could make a video. 23.16.15 # lol 23.16.58 # you can use my "Rockbox running on X movie construction kit" 23.17.13 # soon for sale in a shop near you 23.17.14 Join smp500 [0] (n=steven@adsl-068-159-099-201.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) 23.18.05 # How do I set the tag cache to not look at the stuff used by the iTunes DB 23.18.15 # Now i have double everything 23.18.46 # you have to delete the itunes DB 23.19.41 # someone should make a general non-device specific simulator version with configurable screensize. And lirc input support. Please? 23.20.35 # Bagder: Got my question (log 15:40)? 23.20.37 # I'm confused smp500 - You have songs added by itunes, AND songs copied over into the filetree? 23.21.08 # amiconn: no there's no time frame afaik 23.21.21 # hmm :\ 23.22.03 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 23.22.07 # went to a wedding 2 days ago as best man...i wore my rockbox shirt =D 23.22.22 # that's the spirit! ;-) 23.22.22 # now everyone who see the wedding pictures will see rockbox.org =P 23.24.19 Join cinic [0] (i=cinic16@modemcable105.79-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.24.40 # I need help with installation of rockbox 23.25.05 # What's the question 23.25.54 Quit ender` (" A ‘good’ landing is one from which you can walk away. A ‘great’ landing is one after which they can use the plane again.") 23.25.59 # 1 minutes please :) 23.26.16 # I speak french is not easy for me to talk english:P 23.26.46 Quit hcs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.26.46 Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit Nibbier (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit dark (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit _FireFly_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit damaki_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit pixelma (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit YouCeyE (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit petur (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit Tempis2 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit Blackfish (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit rakslice (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit nudelyn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit rigel (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit [sellout] (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit secleinteer (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit Id2ndR (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit linuxstb (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit BHSPitLappy (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit Nimdae (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit Rick (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit bagawk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit courtc (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.46 Quit webmind (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.26.57 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.26.57 NJoin pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 23.26.57 NJoin YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 23.26.57 NJoin [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.26.57 NJoin secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.162.10) 23.26.57 NJoin Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 23.26.57 NJoin _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-111-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.26.57 NJoin hcs [0] (n=agashlin@nat01-silvers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 23.26.57 NJoin linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.26.57 NJoin petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.26.57 NJoin Tempis2 [0] (n=Tempis@cpe-24-160-16-107.sw.res.rr.com) 23.26.57 NJoin damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@86.207.110.254) 23.26.57 NJoin Blackfish [0] (n=asd@p54837705.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.26.57 NJoin BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.26.57 NJoin rakslice [0] (n=oof@S010602055dee5503.ok.shawcable.net) 23.26.57 NJoin nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-104-224.dslaccess.co.uk) 23.26.57 NJoin Nimdae [0] (n=nimmeh@71-11-210-76.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 23.26.57 NJoin webmind [0] (i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl) 23.26.57 NJoin ze [0] (i=ze@70.40.152.105) 23.26.57 NJoin dark [0] (i=deviled_@microsoft.gotrooted.com) 23.26.57 NJoin Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 23.26.57 NJoin Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-78-72.dynamic.qsc.de) 23.26.57 NJoin bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 23.26.57 NJoin Rick [0] (i=rick@unaffiliated/Rick) 23.26.57 NJoin rigel [0] (n=rigel@dsl092-248-194.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) 23.26.57 NJoin courtc [0] (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 23.27.16 # grrrr 23.27.42 # splitland 23.28.04 # I installed rockbox but my ipod posts me a message : Use Itunes to restore 23.28.12 # At least irssi detects it and only shows one line for the split, and one for the join. 23.28.42 # help me please :-) 23.29.31 # cinic: doesn't the ipod work anymore? 23.29.43 # cinic: It appears you made a mistake installing the bootloader. 23.30.31 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.30.40 # Markun: Not, it functions but I cannot go on rockbox because it posts unceasingly since the installation of rockbox: Use itunes to restore 23.31.41 # Soap: How can I repair my error? 23.31.59 # cinic: If you were a good boy and only made one mistake you can do the command: 23.32.07 # ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin 23.32.35 # Ok 23.32.39 # replacing the "N" with the number for your ipod you discovered in step 1B of the instructions. 23.32.58 # This will restore your stock bootpartition to the ipod. 23.33.18 # I will test that 23.33.59 # If you were not a good boy, and corrupted not only the boot partion of your ipod, but also your bootpartion.bin file, you will need to either use itunes to restore your ipod (does this cause him to lose his music?) or get a proper bootpartition.bin file from someone else. 23.34.20 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.34.45 # ok 23.34.54 Ctcp Version from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect 23.34.55 *** Server message 477: 'logbot_ #rockbox :[freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg' 23.35.35 Part smp500 ("Konversation terminated!") 23.36.01 # 2 minutes please.. 23.36.19 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.36.56 Quit menosm (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.37.31 Join menosm__ [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 23.37.33 Nick menosm__ is now known as menosm (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 23.37.59 # going outside for a smoke cinic, brb 23.38.13 Join tempi [0] (n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi) 23.38.49 # Hi. anyone here who has worked on the new iPod 5.5G to make it work with rockbox? 23.39.06 # I have to test the order 23.40.07 # Soap: The menu principal of my ipod is become again like front. Is Rockbox installed? 23.41.19 Quit SUSaiyan (Remote closed the connection) 23.42.16 Quit menosm (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.42.30 Part tempi ("Leaving") 23.42.42 Quit BlackHoleOfCode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.43.06 Join menosm__ [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 23.43.09 Nick menosm__ is now known as menosm (n=chatzill@user-11fac6q.dsl.mindspring.com) 23.43.17 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 23.43.24 Part n1s 23.44.42 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=susaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 23.44.43 # ok cinic, I don't quite follow what you just said. 23.46.14 # I did what you said to me and maintaining my ipod to be started again and it is become again like front 23.46.38 # I did what you said to me and **now my ipod to be started again and it is become again like front 23.46.54 # I don't understand "become again like front" 23.47.10 # I'm not good in english :S 23.47.12 # like new? 23.47.15 # like new? 23.47.30 # cinic: rockbox doesn't look the same a the original apple firmware 23.48.12 # 2 minutes 23.48.33 Nick Tempis2 is now known as Tempis (n=Tempis@cpe-24-160-16-107.sw.res.rr.com) 23.49.35 # my ipod is become again as usual 23.49.51 # cinic: yes, so it's not loading rockbox 23.50.01 # good, now you need to try to do the bootloader again. 23.50.06 # okay 23.50.22 Quit Blackfish ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.50.39 # you should never need to run ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin again. 23.50.55 # since your bootpartition.bin file is apparently in good shape. 23.51.00 # what ipod do you have? 23.51.17 # Ipod Nano 23.51.20 # 1Go 23.52.36 Quit mattvt () 23.53.05 # Soap: I am ready to make the next stages with you 23.53.30 # what install instructions are you using? 23.53.57 Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") 23.54.02 # http://www.01net.com/editorial/331334/musique/ajoutez-des-fonctions-a-votre-ipod/ 23.54.42 # ahh, I can't read any languages save Latin and English, so I can't confirm the validity of those instructions. 23.55.08 # my French isn't very good but I'll take a look 23.55.14 # I'm willing to bet, though, that they don't take into account the changed install instructions for the Nano with Apple Firmware 1.2 23.55.19 # am of Quebec in Canada 23.55.22 # I 23.55.24 # as I bet that is where your install failed. 23.55.51 # okay 23.55.55 # What number did you discover your ipod to be in step 1B? 23.56.28 # 1 23.57.04 # hrmph 23.57.07 # do you have a copy of bootloader-nano.bin? 23.57.43 # Someone broke the nice ibss exclusion from the binary... and this went undetected for quite some time 23.58.03 # I don't understand 23.58.06 # copy?? 23.58.14 # Soap: it only has information about the firmware for the 5g video, not the extra for the 1.2 nano