--- Log for 17.11.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.11 # in the file, I have the bootpartition.bin that was touched, then the back up, which wasn't touched 00.00.16 Quit obo ("bye") 00.00.32 # so, does it matter if I just remove the original one i extracted so I don't confuse myself? 00.00.33 # The one in the folder shouldn't actually be touched (compare its filesize to the backed up one) really 00.00.43 # ahhh 00.00.44 # But you can remove it and just use a copy of the backup 00.00.49 # We don't modify the file itself 00.00.54 # alright, thanks 00.01.02 # But often people re-run the first dd step, and create a new, modified one that then ruins everything 00.01.19 # haha 00.02.37 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 00.02.49 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.05.04 # rwps is LCD remote wps? 00.05.15 # spug: ep0ch left 00.05.35 # XavierGr: i know, i was just kidding 00.05.54 # spug: yes 00.06.06 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.06.39 # okay 00.07.12 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 00.07.43 # Paul_the_nerd: When I merge the rockbox bootloader with the apple firmware, should I remove the bootloader-video.bin that I used when I first attempted? 00.08.07 # before I do the merge, of course 00.08.22 # t0dk0n: No, that file should e fine 00.08.26 # alright 00.09.00 # "Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video" 00.09.08 # I take that as good news so far haha 00.09.14 Quit midkay ("*poff*") 00.09.51 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-SIX-SIXTY-FIVE.MIT.EDU) 00.14.31 # Yay!!! It worked ^_^ 00.14.37 # Thanks so much Paul_The_Nerd 00.15.11 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.15.23 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.16.00 # No problem 00.16.11 Quit ender` (" The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.") 00.16.22 # It's not like I did much. "Oh, you did it wrong, do it again" isn't the most helpful information. :) 00.16.49 # haha, but it still did the trick :P 00.17.36 Join Chrille1 [0] (n=uchuff@204-174-85-8.static571.dsl.ucc-net.ca) 00.17.53 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.22.06 # so, when I just plug in my ipod to my computer, does it charge? 00.23.10 Join Kr4t05 [0] (n=andrew@dsl-206-251-2-28.dsl0.crls.pa.net) 00.23.30 # It should, yes. 00.23.33 Quit dan_a (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.37 # cool 00.23.51 # Has anyone successfully compiled/installed RockBox for the Sandisk Sansa m200 Series? 00.24.31 # There is no Rockbox for m200 00.25.09 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 00.25.57 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 00.26.02 # That would be a "no" ;) 00.26.17 # I figured. 00.26.55 Part Kr4t05 ("Konversation terminated!") 00.28.27 Quit Kitt0s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.28.47 Join Caliban__ [0] (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 00.33.45 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.34.30 # Wow, this is so nice 00.34.43 # Now to put sie music on! 00.35.09 Part NickDe ("Leaving") 00.35.26 # :) 00.35.32 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-144-91-104.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.36.07 # hey, i got a last_fm log on my ipod from today & yesterdays usage, how do I upload the log? 00.36.13 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.36.44 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 00.38.17 Quit shattered (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.47 # Terinjokes: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog 00.39.55 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 00.40.17 # i didn't see those their 3 days ago, sorry, thanks spug! and i've joined the rockbox users group on last.fm! 00.42.36 Quit netmasta10bt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.42.37 # Tis a good thing 00.43.43 Quit Caliban_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.44.47 # Terinjokes: oh mkan, i should join that group 00.44.56 # also, oh man 00.45.47 # http://www.last.fm/group/Rockbox+Users 00.46.02 # thanks 00.47.40 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-71-235-127-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.49.22 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.50.46 # off-topic, but being a pandora user, i'm used to thumbs up and down, how am i supposed to rate the song i like, so i hear more like it? 00.55.24 Join vx [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.56.05 # Terinjokes: that's not how last.fm works. it recommends you music that is similar to the music you listen to. 00.56.16 # Actually no 00.56.28 # It recommends music that other people with your music taste listens to 00.56.31 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 00.56.36 # lol 00.56.42 # It doesn't necessarily mean that it's similar 00.56.49 # Just "related" 00.56.56 # Through listender-connection 00.56.58 # :) 00.57.00 # yeah 00.57.01 # I get pissed off sometimes with that, cause when I wanna listen to something I don't listen to that much, its full fledged randomness and sometimes crap 00.57.15 # like happy hardcore 00.57.23 # it plays pop and eurotrance stuff instead 00.57.33 # rasher, how does it know what i listen to? whats the 'love' button used for then? 00.58.19 # Terinjokes: It records what you listen to (assuming you're using a logger and submit your listens) and remembers that 00.58.29 Quit rocko (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.39 # I think the "love" button is a sortof "remember this song" button 00.58.41 # "love" tags the track as a track you love, so you can listen to radio with just loved tracks 00.58.57 # Ah.. I haven't used the lastfm player much 00.59.00 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 00.59.46 # yes, i use rockbox ;-) (thanks developers for adding headphone awareness on the ipod, BTW), and it logs from iTunes, and i guess thats what 'scrobbing' in the player is for 01.00.07 # Exactly 01.00.27 # It's quite different a different approach compared to Pandora 01.00.59 # It might be different, but not enough to warrant writing it twice... 01.01.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.02.11 # i found a site on the interweb that is pandora, but if you thumbs up the song, it scrobs that to last.fm (and ditto I guess for thumbs down, except as a 'ban') 01.02.52 # But since i use pandora through an application on my computer, that doesn't help very much :( 01.03.28 Join shattered [0] (n=svs@svs.complife.ru) 01.03.33 # JdGordon: I'm currently trying out Bubbles to find out more about your button action commit... noticed two major problems so far: the controls on Ondio don't work correctly (except left/right and off) and the timeout doesn't work correctly (seems to be valid for all targets) 01.03.56 # how so? 01.05.01 # the bubbles doesn't get fired automatically and the "hurrry" message stays as long as I'm pressing some button (the only possibility to "fire" a bubble on Ondio 01.05.14 # until 01.05.36 # new york is UTC-5 right (i always get confused!) 01.05.59 # JdGordon: I could wait forever if I want to 01.06.12 # hmm ok 01.06.17 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.06.41 Quit JoeBorn ("going to office") 01.06.43 # Terinjokes: wikipedia says -4/-5 01.06.50 # the fire button doesnt work? 01.06.52 # whatever that means 01.06.59 # maybe DST 01.07.04 # i'm happy my country is narrow enough to only span one time zone :D 01.07.41 # whats this "battery capacity" option? 01.07.57 # pixelma: oh, I see the rpoblem... umm.. 01.08.08 # t0dk0n: only for the runtime estimation 01.08.19 # on Ondio "up" and "down" seem to have now effect at all - neither in the menu nor in the game itself 01.08.35 # t0dk0n: It's used so that the player can estimate how much time you have left. It doesn't affect the percentage or anything else, just the hours/minutes display. 01.08.47 # ooooh alright, thanks 01.08.48 # An estimate that is, on many players, totally incorrect anyway. 01.09.09 # I was hoping it would be something to savor the battery power :P 01.09.32 # :) 01.09.32 # pixelma: what about the metronome plugin? 01.09.38 # JdGordon: (cvs update from 4 hours ago) 01.09.44 # haven't tried yet 01.10.15 # I think ill revert the bubbles... I guess it shouldnt have been commited so early.. (im gonna get shot for this :p) 01.10.19 # see i got a small little problem, "Weird Al" Yankovic gets submitted as \"Wierd Al\" Yankovic... 01.12.24 # speaking of bubbles, I can't exit it 01.12.24 # lol 01.12.44 # 404, funny not found! 01.13.10 # eh :P, bugs humor me 01.13.10 Join Wett [0] (n=Wett@d01v-89-83-187-100.d4.club-internet.fr) 01.13.27 # I exited it though 01.15.37 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 01.15.40 # pixelma: ok, I see the problem.. ill either back out the change before the end of the day, or commit a new version.. best to have working games for the weekend 01.16.24 # what needs to be done is similar to what is at the top of metronome.c 01.16.51 Part Terinjokes 01.19.10 # Terinjokes - are you refering to Last.FM? 01.20.45 # For the name a submitted artist (and sometimes tracks) is shown under is a matter of Last.FM's attempts to account for improper tagging by allowing the community to moderate a standard set of Artist/Albums/Tracks, and is in no way a reflection of what the pluggin actually recorder, or what was actually submitted. 01.21.28 # s/recorder/records 01.21.41 # oh, I failed to see he had left. 01.23.06 Join flo [0] (i=51392c33@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.23.53 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.14 # Hello! 01.24.43 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 01.24.57 # Anyone's around? Had a question on flashing bootbox... 01.26.12 # noone... anyways, will ask at the forum 01.26.27 Quit flo (Client Quit) 01.26.48 # 3 minutes... pathitc.. the record is 2 01.26.59 # The record is actually 1:05 01.27.07 # oh, ok 01.27.11 # At least, under my observation. :) 01.27.36 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 01.27.56 # JdGordon: metronome on Ondio) I cannot adjust the tempo with left/right (the rest like tapping and off seems to work) 01.28.19 # volume up/down is ok too 01.28.38 Join flo [0] (n=Florian@mur75-1-81-57-44-51.fbx.proxad.net) 01.29.18 # ok, thats an easy fix.. 01.29.49 # ah "pause" is wrong too 01.30.21 # hold menu 01.30.30 # while holding mode it says "paused" appears but it starts again as soon as I release the button 01.31.16 # well it actually pauses 01.31.24 # (doesn't say so) 01.31.42 # does it unpause when its released? 01.31.46 # Hello pixelma, JdGordon 01.31.51 # yes 01.32.01 # sorry to jump in, but thought I could ask a question 01.32.04 # (at JdGordon) 01.32.13 # just ask.. 01.32.24 # Thx. Trying to flash bootbox, 01.32.35 # pixelma: ok, i tihnk i can fix this.. can you test a build? 01.32.44 # yes I can 01.33.06 # can i send you the .c or you need the actual .rock? 01.33.12 # after running the flash plugin, F1, it checks then I'm out -- looks like the check fails 01.33.50 # I have latest daily build, and bootbox from wiki page (looks a bit old). 01.33.50 Quit RogerBacon ("Quitte") 01.34.00 # JdGordon: you can send me the .c 01.34.08 # Anything I might be doing wrong ? 01.34.12 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.34.58 # flo: what player do you have? 01.35.09 # FM recorder 01.35.57 Quit funky ("leaving") 01.36.08 # pixelma: that should fix both problems you mentioned.. hopefully... 01.36.09 # Booting from RAM (F1-boot to Archos, which loads Roxbox from disk) 01.36.27 # which Archos? 01.37.19 # Hmm... Archos's original ROM, not sure what version. 01.37.42 # there are two Archos devices which cannot run bootbox at the moment because it's grown to big 01.38.08 # I had flashed my FM recorder some years ago, with Archos at the first ROM position, Rockbox at second position. 01.38.24 # Archos FM-Recorder and Recorder V2 01.38.56 # Ah. I see. 01.38.56 # I thought it wouldn't work with Recorder V1 either. 01.40.21 # I thought RomBox was too big, and BootBox was to be flashed first, to leave place for RomBox. Guess I understood it wrong. 01.41.05 # Paul_the_Nerd: V1 should be fine - it doesn't have a radio so one saves code there (maybe other differences too that I don't know of) 01.41.18 # pixelma: Sorry, I was thinking Rombox. 01.42.22 # Or is that now fitting again? 01.43.25 # I think it did all the time (maybe I shouldn't speak about something I don't really know) 01.44.06 # I know that last time I tried to download it, the .zip didn't include rombox.ucl 01.44.10 # (but only the columns in the build table for V2 and FM-Recorder are red all the time 01.44.37 # Yeah, rombox.ucl is not included with the V1 recorder build right now 01.44.56 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 01.45.02 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.45.50 Quit vx ("CGI:IRC") 01.46.02 # sorry... maybe I was wrong on that one 01.47.11 # pixelma: Well, rombox seems to be being built for v1... 01.47.24 # pixelma: howd that fix go? 01.47.54 # just put it on my player (was a bit distracted) - let's see 01.48.59 # yeah.. fixed :) 01.49.04 # great 01.50.47 # in cvs.. ill fix bubbles later todya 01.50.56 # Well... I tried to flash rockbox.ucl, looks like it worked. Just rebooted the player, and it's using the correct version 01.51.28 # I'm not sure I understand everything with flashing... but it's OK. 01.51.59 # rockbox.ucl should be fine - only rombox.ucl isn't working (as far as I understand) 01.52.14 # I should have original Archos' software at the first ROM position, and now the latest rockbox at second position. 01.52.30 # OK. Did't get the difference between the two. 01.52.35 # Thank you! 01.53.18 # glad I could help with my "half"-knowledge 02.02.08 Part yipe ("Leaving") 02.02.39 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.14.18 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 02.17.30 # Paul_the_Nerd: for the stats... I meant rombox in first place (not bootbox) 02.21.45 # Hehehe 02.21.54 # I'm not sure why rombox is showing a green build on the CVS table 02.21.57 # so this leaves a big questionmark about the bootbox thing ... I'm really sorry 02.22.05 # It very definitely doesn't build here, and it's not included in the official archive. 02.22.15 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 02.23.13 # ok I should just shut up then... need some sleep anyways... 02.23.27 # :( 02.23.34 # I got some error >_< 02.23.46 # "Data abort at 00030E30" 02.24.59 Part flo 02.26.13 # how do I restart rockbox? 02.26.36 # on ipod vide 02.26.37 # o 02.26.49 # t0dk0n: On an iPod, just hold Menu+Select to force a reboot, if it's frozen at a data abort screen 02.27.02 # hehe thanks 02.27.14 # t0dk0n: What version number of Rockbox are you running (or how old is your download, and is it a daily or CVS?) 02.27.39 # daily, downloaded today 02.28.01 # Try updating to a newer build 02.29.04 # newer, eh? 02.29.19 # isn't the daily build pretty new? 02.29.29 # 20061116 02.29.45 # "pretty new" is not the same as "newest" 02.29.50 # Dailies are made once a day 02.30.01 # So you can be missing out on as much as 23:59:59 worth of fixes. :-P 02.30.08 # lol 02.30.12 # And assuming your bug is what I think it is, it's fixed 02.30.23 # what do you think it is? 02.30.35 # A glitch in the ApeV2 tag skipping, if I understand. 02.30.44 # ahhh 02.30.45 # maybe 02.30.47 # hehe 02.30.57 # sooo, to get the newest one, I should download from CVS? 02.32.13 # From the CVS builds page, yes 02.33.21 # oooh, thats nifty, don't actually has to use CVS 02.33.24 # have* 02.36.49 # t0dk0n: Anyway, the memory address is *near* the ones discussed here, so I'm taking a guess that it's the same problem: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7371.0 02.37.50 # oooh haha 02.37.57 # I was just messing around with something 02.38.05 # but it could be that 02.51.04 Part pixelma 02.51.31 Part t0dk0n 02.57.19 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.58.17 Quit Xerion (" ") 02.58.24 Join t0dk0n [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-231-244-54.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 02.58.48 # hmmm, file transfer is being slothingly slow! 02.58.50 # lol 02.58.56 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@222.76.229.178) 02.59.48 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.01.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.32 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.197.34) 03.17.04 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@zarathul.student.utwente.nl) 03.20.45 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-20-215-80.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 03.22.24 # t0dk0n: if you are transfering very large amounts of songs it probably makes sense to reboot your iPod into Apple's firmware, then plug in your USB cable. 03.23.02 # Apple's standard disk mode is considerably faster than Apple's emergency disk mode which Rockbox uses. 03.26.29 # ooooh, lol thanks :P 03.26.45 # wait, so how would I go about doing that? 03.27.01 # just reboot, then do the normal disc mode thing? 03.27.11 # anybody have successfully got yahoo working in mac? 03.27.14 # reboot while holding down menu 03.27.28 # alright 03.27.30 # thanks 03.27.36 # then plug in your USB cable, and the Apple OS will switch to normal disk mode. 03.27.47 # anybody have successfully got yahoo working in mac? 03.28.00 # Chrille1: do you know what channel this is? 03.28.00 # Chrille1: What does that have to do with Rockbox at all? 03.30.51 Join charkins [0] (n=casey@pdpc/supporter/active/charkins) 03.32.19 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.140.30) 03.33.21 # lmao 03.34.00 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.34.06 # chrille1: get gaim 03.34.25 # t0dk0n are you using yahoo now 03.34.37 # Please, take that to PMs 03.34.38 # no, butI have used it 03.34.43 # lol sorry 03.36.03 # soap: hmm, its still going slow 03.36.38 # when I run root, sometimes transfer rates speed up 03.52.00 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.54.09 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.55.12 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.168.113) 03.55.44 # 0_o... moving the music off the ipod is faster then putting it on 03.56.00 # I think its something wrong with my computer 03.56.11 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 04.05.21 # i wouldnt say that...read speed is often faster than write speed on most devices 04.06.25 # pretty much everything is faster read than write 04.08.38 Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.08.45 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p549871E7.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.09.06 # does anyone have an ondio? 04.13.35 Quit charkins ("Ex-Chat") 04.15.26 # ondio? 04.15.29 # * t0dk0n googles 04.16.01 # ahhh 04.18.17 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") 04.18.59 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.22.30 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 04.24.16 Join lilkid [0] (i=55d28341@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 04.25.32 # hi, does anyone know if it's possible to have ipod software, ipodlinux and rockbox installed on one 5G ipod? 04.25.45 # I know. 04.26.40 # Paul_the_nerd: care to share what you know? 04.26.45 # Hehehe 04.26.47 # Yeah, it's possible 04.26.47 # lol 04.26.50 # lol 04.26.55 # Ok thanks 04.27.08 # Both our bootloader and the iPodLinux one are capable of loading all three 04.28.03 # Ah ok, is there any advanced editing of any boot files - which i would probably mess up? or is it fairly straightforward? 04.28.32 # Well, the honest easiest solution is to use the iPodLinux installer and use their loader 2.4 04.31.45 # One more question before i go forth and try to install them, is there any order in which i should install them? 04.34.01 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-144-99-48.mia.bellsouth.net) 04.34.07 # hello! 04.38.29 # hi 04.40.37 Quit lilkid ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.40.57 # hows it going? 04.44.49 Part Terinjokes 04.45.56 Quit t0dk0n ("Leaving.") 04.46.44 Join Goss [0] (i=445cd46c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 04.47.28 # Is anybody here? 04.49.52 Quit Goss (Client Quit) 05.00.04 Part Paul_the_Nerd 05.01.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.05.05 Quit daurnimator ("Cyas later...") 05.07.30 Join t0dk0n [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-231-244-54.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 05.11.21 Join devnulljp [0] (i=1844f340@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 05.12.46 # rolling rolling rolling, rolling that JOINT! 05.13.04 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16602.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.13.13 # awww, too bad I can't really tone that 05.13.23 # it just looks weird and completely off topic 05.15.51 # folks, i just put rockbox on my H10 20GB and playback stops every 19 seconds, pauses fro 1 sec, then keeps going (for 19 secs) 05.16.05 # anyone else seen that? driving me crazy 05.16.50 # haha that sounds hella annoying 05.16.51 # tried setting the anti-skip buffer to everything from 5 s to 10 min, but it makes no difference 05.17.06 # it's a good size for throwing across the room too 05.17.24 # works fine with the iriver firmware, just rockbox 05.17.24 Quit Rick (Operation timed out) 05.17.32 # maybe that would fix it >:O 05.17.35 # >:)* 05.17.45 # you're thinking of the rio karma ;-) 05.17.57 # hahaha 05.18.00 # had to smack that thing pretty hard sometimes 05.18.12 # damn haha 05.18.24 # ipods are alright once you put something open source on them =D 05.18.30 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.18.47 # so everyone else's rockbox works fine? 05.19.05 # on my ipod, it does, yes 05.19.18 # but I wouldn't know, because I haven't installed it on my imaginary h10 yet ;P 05.19.26 # getting tired of listening to music.....pause.....then it keeps going for a ....pause.....while but stops again....pause 05.19.44 # you should report it in the bugs section 05.19.45 # does it work on a 2nd gen ipod nano? 05.19.56 # it'd get fix in no time 05.20.04 # hmm, I don't think it does 05.20.04 # ok willdo 05.20.18 # 2nd gen as in the latest ipod nanos? 05.22.09 # yes. i thought only 1st gen nanos work w/ rockbox 05.22.19 # can you play oggs on ipds w/ rockbox? 05.22.47 # yeah, ogg works 05.23.04 # but I read somewhere that it takes more battery power then mp3 05.23.19 # yeah, 2nd gens don't work quite yet :P 05.23.33 # I just installed rockbox on my ipod not even 8 hours ago for the first time 05.23.38 # but I read a lot on the site ^_^ 05.24.55 Join lilkid [0] (i=55d28341@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 05.25.44 # i just installed rockbox on my 5G ipod, how can i choose to boot into the ipod software instead? 05.27.45 Join daurnimator [0] (n=fake@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 05.29.57 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.33.10 Quit Landus ("Leaving") 05.36.42 # lilkid: hmm, I can't even figure that out 05.36.44 # lol 05.36.54 # I found almost everything except that out 05.38.50 # Is it possible to play Hexen/Hexen 2 on ipod with DOOM!? =D 05.41.31 # lol, i want to watch my videos =[ and i cant even boot into ipod software to do that 05.41.49 # lol 05.41.59 # eh, I never cared for that video feature on ipods 05.42.03 # I just needed it for music 05.42.08 # and now to play DOOM 05.42.09 # lol 05.42.26 # so, thats why I installed rockbox, instead of ipodlinux 05.44.10 # ah lol, i was going to install ipodlinux but.. it said it would format my ipod -.- and the last time i updated it it took 2 hours 05.44.56 # haha 05.45.10 # I wish I hadn't removed all my music before installing rockbox :( 05.45.10 # oh well 05.45.24 # removed from ipod, onto computer 05.49.25 # ahh. have you figured out themes yet? 05.49.25 Quit devnulljp ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.49.30 # Yeah 05.49.39 # its straight forward really 05.49.48 # you just download the theme, unzip/unrar/untar it 05.50.13 # then it tells you which folders to put the themes in */ipod/.rockbox/ 05.50.31 Quit XavierGr () 05.50.39 # lilkid - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_to_start_the_original_Apple 05.52.39 # t0dk0n,PaulPosition: thanks =]] . 05.52.57 # oooh thanks paulposition 05.53.03 # and no problem illkid 05.53.04 # lol 05.53.19 # don't forget to read, just below, how to get back in rockbox firmware.. ;) 05.53.32 # haha 05.53.45 # bookmarking the page would be usefull for the next few days of exploring rockbox. 05.54.43 # unless you're pretentious enough to claim you have a photographic memory O:-) 05.54.46 # * t0dk0n bookmarks 05.56.21 # haha, i have 10MP eyes =D 05.56.53 # How long does tagcache take to "get ready"? :'( 05.57.04 # what is better? ipod or zune 05.57.08 # ipod 05.57.16 # Zune = microsoft = eviler company 05.57.37 # although, apple is pretty evil too 05.57.38 # t0dk0n lol, that's terrible reason 05.57.54 # well, rockbox isn't made for Zune quite yet, is it? :P 05.58.02 # thats a good reason =D 05.58.41 # and why you calling them evil? 05.59.39 # too much for me to explain... but this site shows a lot of reasons: http://www.kmfms.com/ 06.00.14 # no you answer since you started it 06.00.25 # basically, microsoft keeps releasing this shitty "operating system", and instead of fixing old bugs, they add new features with more bugs 06.00.35 # they purposely put more and more bugs in their software 06.00.46 # what bug? 06.00.57 # all software has bugs 06.01.04 # each time a new version of Windows comes out, you have to pay for it! 06.01.09 # when its a bundle of bugs!! 06.01.11 # of course 06.01.15 # hmm anyon read about that thing on rockbox where it delays one headphone slightly to make songs sound more 'real'? ive forgotten what its called =/ 06.01.22 # each time new version of macos come out, you have to pay for it too 06.01.23 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.01.25 # but windows is by far the worst coded "software" in existence 06.01.35 # yeah, thats why apple is evil too :P 06.01.40 # t0dk0n that is bs 06.01.47 # not really 06.01.59 # why do you still get viruses on windows? 06.02.07 # THATS THE ONLY OPERATING SYSTEM WITH VIRUSES 06.02.19 # t0dk0n that is not true 06.02.33 # then you have to buy these anti virus softwares (which too, are owned by microsoft, under pseudo company names) 06.02.39 # first ever virus existence was not windows virus 06.02.46 # true 06.02.51 # but I meant modern operating system 06.02.51 # :P 06.03.01 # as in linux, bsd, windows, mac os 06.03.05 # and other unixes 06.03.12 # even if windows is the worst coded software, and it gets viruses, that goes to show the most of the worlds computer users use it,hence bill gates being a billionaire 06.03.13 # major/modern 06.03.21 # lol 06.03.29 # thats the whole reason windows is around 06.03.33 # so bill gates can get more money 06.03.43 # he's an asshole 06.04.03 # t0dk0n i bet you woudn't think that if you were in his possition 06.04.05 # See, windows is also closed source 06.04.13 # The thing is, if tomorrow the windows user base changed to owning macintoshes, then the virii-kids would start targeting macOS and in a few months you'd have a similar situation. 06.04.18 # so you can't even work in a community environement and legally recode 06.04.41 # actually, I would.. because I'm not a cheap asshole to begin with... plus I don't need much money to survive :P 06.04.45 # t0dk0n so you never watched dvd? 06.05.03 # whats dvd have anything to do with why microsoft is a evil company? 06.05.16 # because you mentioned closed source 06.05.28 # lilkid - that feature you were looking for is called CrossFeed. 06.05.35 # I barely watch movies ^_^ 06.05.47 # and when I do, its only like once, and 2 hours tops of my life 06.05.47 # t0dk0n but you have used it before 06.05.50 # so its not going to kill me 06.05.54 # like using windows for ever! 06.06.04 # of course, I never said I don't use closed source 06.06.20 # I have an ipod, which used to run closed source propriety firmware 06.06.26 # t0dk0n exactly 06.06.52 # t0dk0n i know your type; you want everything to be free and open and be hippy like 06.07.06 # hmmm, but this still doesn't debate why you don't think microsoft is an evil company 06.07.06 # :P 06.07.13 # naw, I hate hippies 06.07.17 # Hey so do I, Chrille.. 06.07.21 # I like violence and chaos 06.07.44 # I'd be bored without a debate like this over closed source ^_^ 06.07.49 # t0dk0n because they are not, neither is apple 06.07.55 # lmao 06.07.56 # Except I matured to realise I can't have it all hippy-like so best I could do is 'push' toward it and hope some strong wind will help me.. :p 06.07.59 # nice debate you got there 06.08.05 # "because they are not" 06.08.15 # t0dk0n sorry, let me explain better 06.08.17 # that cancels all sorts of proof 06.08.46 # t0dk0n you failed to get that they are company that is in business to make money 06.08.51 # paulposition: or we can just live our own lives and use open stuff ourselves, which too helps 'push' =D 06.09.00 # they are not free opensource group 06.09.16 # of course.. but you shouldn't be fucking asshole about it 06.09.26 # why can't they charge less, have cleaner code, etc? 06.09.35 # t0dk0n all software has bugs 06.09.38 # and Apple at least incorporates open source 06.09.48 # so I don't hate them all that much 06.09.51 # t0dk0n you do realize redhat is way more expensive than windows or macos 06.09.59 # but i bet you hate redhat less 06.10.14 # But I do hate how Steve Jobs acts like he makes everything Apple releases, when he's just the rich marketing head man 06.10.26 # never cared for redhat 06.10.31 # but i bet you hate redhat less 06.10.34 # I actually have a peave against them 06.10.35 # than ms and apple 06.10.48 # naw, I really just hate microsoft 06.10.56 # and although redhat costs money, they have Fedora 06.11.05 # and its all open source anyway 06.11.15 # t0dk0n - a rich marketing head man that used to build the apple in his garage with his pal steve wozniac between sessions of hacking various thing. ;) 06.11.18 # just costs m.. why the fuck does it cost money anyway? 06.11.28 # t0dk0n that's because apple failed to make decent kernel on their own 06.11.35 # lol true that 06.11.53 # at least ms is original 06.11.58 # lol 06.11.59 # no it isn't 06.12.12 # I hate apple's marketing direction (the lamp computer, oh my..uk!). 06.12.18 # lol, you are right, MS copied apple the GUI idea 06.12.20 # bill gates jacked code from a xerox operating system when he used to be a beta tester 06.12.24 # and applied it to ms 06.12.30 # and almost everything on windows 06.12.34 # was bought from other companies 06.12.37 # and applied :P 06.12.38 # While Apple only copied said gui idea from Xerox (or was it canon?) 06.12.40 # DOS was bought!@ 06.12.56 # you are right again, you got me 06.13.01 # forget i said that 06.13.05 # lol 06.13.13 # it was xerox haha 06.13.40 # so, microsoft isn't actually original :P 06.14.04 # now rockbox 06.14.07 # right, nobody is original 06.14.11 # thats original software right there 06.14.13 # dude, Bill gates didn't copy from xerox, Apple did. Bill Gates copied from apple by building the first few Microsoft Office versions on macOS before porting it to the newly created, freshly copied, windows. 06.14.15 # everybody copied from somebody else 06.14.27 # lol not everyone/ everything is sheepish 06.14.33 # thats just a generalization there 06.14.43 # ahhh, same shit 06.14.43 # lol 06.14.49 # it was copied eventually :P 06.15.11 # t0dk0n i have this feeling, nothing that ms or apple do will satisfy you 06.15.19 # exactly 06.15.21 # :P 06.15.29 # Well, the ipod satisfies me =D 06.15.44 # but is ipod better than zune 06.15.59 # oh yeah, thats why we got in this little debate 06.16.02 # I have no clue 06.16.08 # nothing is better then anything 06.16.18 # you just have to see which one offers the features you are looking for 06.16.28 # zune seems kinda cheap though 06.16.34 # I was playing with one the other day 06.16.38 # how much cheaper than ipod 06.16.41 # and thats just my unbiased opinion 06.16.51 # I didn't even know it was microsoft till I got home and looked it up 06.17.01 # cheaper as in the materials 06.17.24 # it felt frail 06.17.29 # and course 06.17.54 # :O:O:O ooooomg! i just installed a theme and my ipod looks amazing :D:D 06.18.11 # lol yeah, themes are pretty cool 06.18.15 # I'm thinking of making my own 06.18.22 # with my tag in the background =D 06.18.35 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 06.18.43 # haha what are the themes made with? 06.19.00 # Sim on H1x0 is broken 06.19.07 # (for me at least) 06.19.12 # is this known? 06.20.10 # themes are made with bmp images and a cfg file 06.20.16 # its pretty easy from the looks of it 06.20.22 # I just lost my graphics design touch 06.21.39 # oh wow...i thought for a second that this wasnt rockbox, but another channel... 06.22.11 # hahaha 06.22.14 # ah yeah it does look pretty simple from the cfg file i just opened. i never had a graphics design touch =[ , which pisses me off because i "try" to design websites but im much better X1000 at php 06.22.31 # lol 06.22.55 # lilkid: you gotta just stop thinking you suck, and figure tools out, then just let your imagination take off from there 06.23.14 # the whole anti self esteem just kills it for you :P 06.24.20 # w00t! I unplugged my ipod without unmounting so much today, that its gotten to /dev/sdi2 =D 06.25.45 # lol yeah i try this, i hand write hand websites, but i can never quite get the knack of making a design that just looks good.. :P this is what all my friends say to me too lol. i mean, i just dont get ideas, even though im photoshop fluent ¬¬. lol really 06.26.11 # hehe 06.26.35 # oh yeah, do you know how to put a delay on one headphone on rockbox? i read about it earlier but now forgot 06.26.36 # I've had that problem so much 06.26.50 # I finally made one I'm satisfied with, but then I lost interest in even having a website once I got one 06.27.12 # hmm, nope, haven't gotten to that quite yet 06.27.23 # haha you sound like a mirror of me 06.27.37 # wanna see the design? 06.27.38 # lol 06.27.51 # I got so apathetic about a website, its not on freewebs 06.27.51 # lol 06.27.55 # now on* 06.28.03 # yeah lol go on 06.28.31 # http://www.freewebs.com/t0dk0n/ 06.28.37 # oops forgot to upload the other graphics 06.28.38 # lol 06.29.44 # Lilkid - What you want to look for is Crossfeeding (I think).. wait a second. 06.29.44 # lol 06.29.48 # it's in the manual... 06.29.56 # for rockbox. 06.30.16 # ah =D thanks yet again, *looks in pdf manual* 06.30.28 Join Kitt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.3.32.cable.012.net.il) 06.30.36 # Feeds a bit of the left channel, with delay, into the right one, and vice versa, so it sounds more like what you'd hear from two speakers.. 06.31.12 # ok, 'nough... sleep. see y'all 06.31.20 Quit PaulPosition () 06.32.34 # hmmm, rockbox is pretty sweet 06.32.45 # pwnz the fuck out of the apple firmware 06.33.16 # http://www.speakdeadspeaker.com/blackbush.jpg 06.33.31 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 06.33.58 # this is a technical support channel...please leave the swearing and offtopicness at the door ;) 06.34.19 # awww 06.34.21 # alright 06.34.32 # * t0dk0n pees on the door while he does that 06.34.33 # ^_^ 06.34.47 # And that. 06.34.51 # I know 06.34.53 # * scorche gives t0dk0n a diaper as it is apparent that he needs one 06.34.56 # I got a rockbox question now 06.35.19 # * t0dk0n slips the diaper that scorche generously handed me 06.35.26 # on 06.35.38 # nice rockbox question 06.35.50 # anyone know if you can play the hexen/hexen 2 wads on Doom? 06.36.05 # or is it strictly doom/doom2 + addon wads? 06.36.52 # yeah i agree it does =D. lmao to that pic anyway. ooh i was just looking at that, where do you get doom wads? 06.37.08 # read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=PluginDoom 06.37.09 # you gotta pirate the doom wads :P 06.37.11 # both of you 06.37.25 # t0dk0n: we do not discuss that ype of thing here 06.37.35 # :( 06.38.24 # type^ 06.38.47 # scorche: that doesn't really say anything at all about hexen 06.38.49 # heh...i typically ignore my typos...as long as you know what i was trying to say 06.39.12 # why dont you just try it out and see? 06.39.16 # yeah, I was just trying to be immature and pay back for all the moderation =D 06.39.26 # good idea 06.39.59 # payback?...i dont force you to be in this channel ;) 06.40.05 # I know 06.40.08 # But I like this channel 06.40.27 # and when people start moderating, I ph33r getting kick/banned when I'm random and off topic 06.40.27 # lol 06.41.06 # well, expect it to be moderated...this is not a social channel 06.42.17 # yup yup 06.42.30 # well, its social to the extent when you need 'technical support' 06.42.34 # muahahaha 06.43.11 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzzzzz") 06.43.44 # what a coincidence i learnt a new word context today lol, t0dk0n you are a "pedant" 06.44.24 # awww, why thank you 06.44.47 # ;p no probs 06.45.32 # not trying to be sarcastic, but did you learn that in school? 06.46.04 # * scorche sighs 06.46.46 # scorche: is it possible to program 'plugins' in perl for rockbox? 06.46.55 # no 06.46.59 # Would you please keep the social chatter elsewhere? 06.47.02 # ah, what can I program in then? 06.47.05 # C 06.47.06 # C 06.47.10 # alright, sweet 06.50.42 # hmm rockbox has a habit of freezing for a split second when i scroll and the music pauses =/ 06.51.24 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.55.20 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.58.22 Quit lilkid (Nick collision from services.) 07.01.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.53 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.13.17 Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) 07.14.11 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 07.16.28 # awww I just realized 07.16.34 # Rockbox needs that matrix demo =D 07.16.35 # lol 07.17.07 # not really 07.17.14 # I made (read: stole) one, but it didn't work as well as I hoped, so it's abandoned 07.17.32 # ahh 07.17.44 # It's in the tracker somewhere 07.17.51 # Anyone is free to improve it 07.17.54 # I don't care for the movies really... too neo existential... but I like the green code going swish 07.17.57 # hmm, I'll look at it 07.19.42 # rasher: where's the tracker located? 07.20.07 # you can access it easily from the rockbox site 07.20.40 # Click patches in the menu 07.20.42 # gah, I'm really slow today, apologises 07.20.50 # thanks :) 07.25.33 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.29.46 # how long does tag cache usually take to generate? and does it always do this, or is it in a database where its loaded everytime? 07.30.00 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 07.31.39 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 07.39.33 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 07.40.48 Quit rasher ("leaving") 07.41.20 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 07.53.11 Quit rasher ("leaving") 07.54.55 Quit t0dk0n ("WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe") 07.57.44 Nick myzar|away is now known as myzar (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 07.57.50 # I HAVE ARRIVED 07.58.33 # * scorche hides 07.59.03 # you cannot hide! 07.59.10 # * myzar lassos scorche 07.59.12 # * scorche is away 07.59.21 # *mumble mumble* 07.59.24 # you can't be away forever. 07.59.41 # you could only hope... 08.07.48 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 08.08.23 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.13.41 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 08.13.59 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-252-230-67.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 08.18.52 # morning 08.18.58 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.19.30 # * scorche waves 08.20.12 # HA! 08.20.16 # * myzar humps scorche 08.20.22 # ;p 08.20.35 # * scorche dies a little inside 08.20.49 # JdGordon: I begin to think that button actions for plugins aren't nearly as useful as for the core 08.21.29 # What's the point if you still need to make exceptions for specific targets? And I don't mean just leaving out certain actions... 08.29.29 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 08.30.01 Quit lostnihilist (Remote closed the connection) 08.34.27 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 08.36.57 Quit tim66_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.40.14 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.01.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.39 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.04.55 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.15 # amiconn: yeah, ive of 2 minds on that also atm.. still its by far easier to make a few exceptions than figuring out keys for the 9 different key layouts.. 09.11.25 # jhMikeS: Btw, I only didn't commit the new bmp loader yet because I want to make it support 15/16bit BMPs as well. Then it supports all canonical formats, which would be nice 09.12.02 # It also means that rockbox could read BMP files created by rockbox (screendumps) which isn't the case atm for both 4-grey and colour targets 09.12.25 # 4-grey writes 4-bit BMPs (already supported in the new reader, but not in the old one) 09.12.38 # Colour writes 16-bit BMPs ... 09.13.21 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 09.13.34 # After some more optimisation I have 256bytes to play with even on archos (if possible, I want to keep the new loader smaller than the old one) :) 09.15.39 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 09.18.59 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-252-230-67.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 09.19.45 # amiconn: you're not the only one busy. making sure everything restores IRAM for the voice correctly isn't exactly trivial. :P 09.31.29 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.34.27 # JdGordon: I think you're simply using the wrong action context for Bubbles - you've defined a "four-directional movement" context, but that's not Bubbles... 09.34.34 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 09.34.55 # amiconn: why wouldn't it currently read a 565 screendump anyway if it's a valid bmp? 09.35.17 # (BTW, ipod mappings are still wrong in Bubbles - the wheel should be used for left/right) 09.37.19 # linuxstb: why do you say that? bubbles is still elft/right/shoot... 09.37.30 # and ill fix ipod tomorw night unless im beaten to it.. 09.37.37 # Yes, left/right/shoot - no up and down movement. 09.38.51 # ok.. so? 09.39.17 # do you rekon we should add another context to handle just those three? 09.39.23 # Yes. 09.39.50 # i guess that makes sense.. 09.40.05 # On the ipod for example, you scroll for left/right movement, and the four buttons on the wheel when you need four-directional movement. 09.40.32 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 09.41.52 # But that would mean you need a separate context for the opening screen, unless you change to use left/right to change the level for all targets. 09.42.42 # well, if all plugins used a different button handling funciotn for their oening screens than their in game code it wouldnt be a problem 09.43.12 # otherwsie just adding the #defines like in bubbles for the special case can handle it 09.43.52 # but, I have to go now, ill be back tomorow night 09.43.58 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 09.44.18 # Bubbles is like that - there are two separate switch statements. I think the problem is that the old button #defines in Bubbles were badly named as UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT..... bye. 09.44.41 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 10.09.23 Join bluebrother [0] (i=JyiM2vp2@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.10.21 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 10.14.59 # jhMikeS: The current bmp loader only handles 1, 8 and 24 bit BMPs 10.15.17 # It _reads_ other depths, but doesn't handle them correctly 10.16.19 Quit Lynx_ (" reboot") 10.16.21 # gigabeat update: vadim has now got the file browser working! Also the HDD logo flashes as it should and the USB logo shows up when inserting the cable. 10.17.45 # jhMikeS: Btw, the dithering matrix only positive can't be correct. 10.18.12 # it is 10.18.18 # This way, when mapping to 2bit grey, all brightnesses from 192 to 255 end up white, which can't be correct 10.19.33 # for dithering or for truncating? The bands should be even: |0-63|64-127|128-191|192-255| 10.21.30 # That's impossible with simple binary truncation 10.21.33 # Only 1/64 of the pixels should be white at 192 if I figure right 10.23.42 # what is? 0=>63/64 = 0, 64->127/64 = 1, 128=>191/64 = 2, 192->255/64 = 3 10.23.43 # Yeah, but the way it works (I just duplicated what you do for dithering to 5 or 6 bits, only shifted), 192 already means white _without_ applying the dither matrix 10.24.01 # ...and if the matrix is only positive, white just stays white 10.25.20 # Rounding would just stretch the grays out and compress black and white a little 10.26.17 # With the dither matrix being signed, it would be a bit better, but still not correct 10.26.55 # As long as the percentage of pixels in the color reduction at each level is correct for the 8bit level 10.27.36 # Using (brightness >> 6) maps 0..63 to black, 64..127 to dark grey, 128..191 to light grey, and 192..255 to white _without_ dithering, which is, bth not quite correct 10.29.14 # Not sure why you'd want uneven bands 10.29.42 # It should map to the _nearest_ level, which would mean mapping 0..42 to black, 43..127 to dark grey, 128..212 to light grey, and 213..255 to white 10.31.05 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-6-197.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 10.31.06 # The 4 grey levels correspont to 0, 85, 170 and 255; neither to 0, 64, 128, 192 (truncating to 2 bits) nor to 32, 96, 160, 224 (rounding to 2 bits) 10.31.38 # LCD_RGBPACK() used to use the correct mapping, but someone changed that.. 10.32.09 # I don't like the rounding 10.33.28 # Try to visualize what's going on. Black is black, and white is white, irrespective of colour depth 10.33.41 # markun: that's great (re:gigabeat update) - will this be comitted to cvs soon? I would like to get my hands on it and see if I can help with the port 10.33.44 # yup, and trunctation doesn't hurt that 10.34.04 # In order to convert back & forth _correctly_, the first and last intervals must be half the size of the others 10.34.28 # but all color bands with be the same width and correspond to that same number of level from the original depth then 10.34.32 # roolku: yes, should be in cvs soon 10.34.47 # roolku: but vadim has to clean up the code a bit first 10.34.50 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 10.34.54 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 10.34.55 # ...because black and white are _in the center_ of their respective intervals, not at the edges, so the other half of their intervals ends up being outside of 0..255 10.34.55 # an equal number of levels rather for each band 10.34.57 # markun: excellent - looking forward to it 10.38.24 # not sure what that means. just draw an 8-bit gradient, first only truncated to some lower depth, then one rounded and truncated. 10.38.31 # jhMikeS: Also look what happens with truncation and the dither map. With the only-positive dither matrix, 0 is pure black. 1..63 dither between black and dark grey. 64 is pure dark grey. 10.39.11 # yup, exactly how I'd want it 10.39.45 # The same way, 65..127 -> dark grey/light grey; 128->light grey (!), 129..191 -> light grey/white, 192..255 -> white (!!) 10.39.50 Quit Kitt0s (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10.40.06 # that's 1 = 1/64 pixels dg, 2 = 2/64 px dark gray....64/64 pixels dk gray 10.40.09 # With a signed dither matrix, results would be better, but still not correct 10.40.57 # roolku: do you have a gigabeat? 10.41.05 # It's exactly the right halftone since it's basically mixing a proportion of two components to approximate the 8bit level. 10.41.22 Join Blackfish [0] (n=asd@p54836AAE.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.41.23 # Yes, but incorrect 10.42.22 # no, it's exactly what it should do since say level 1 is 1/64 dark gray and 63/64 black 10.42.48 # The low end is (nearly) correct but the high end isn't 10.42.55 Join nudelyn2 [0] (n=leo@dyn-62-56-104-224.dslaccess.co.uk) 10.43.03 # anything else won't mix the correct proportion 10.43.17 # jhMikeS: As already suggested, try to visualize. The problem here is that you have 4 levels, which means there are 3 areas of mixing, but with trucating you create 4 of them 10.45.02 # jhMikeS: Just try to continue your mapping: 1 is 1/64 dark grey and 63/64 black, 2 is 2/64 dark grey and 62/64 black .... 10.45.19 # If you approach 192, you'll see the problem... 10.47.44 # right, I see your point about that. 254 should be 1/64 light gray and 63/64 white 10.49.03 Join Kitt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.3.32.cable.012.net.il) 10.49.43 Quit nudelyn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.51.10 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966362.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.51.47 # jhMikeS: Correct. With a signed dither matrix, the mapping would at least be symmetric 10.53.52 # (0..31 would then all map to black and 224..255 would all map to white) 10.54.17 # There's another way though 10.57.11 Quit roolku () 10.59.43 # If I get this right: if ((level % 64) > matrix) ? level/64 + 1 : level/64 or some variant like that 11.01.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.01.33 # With just level >> 6 as a basis, this will never work correctly 11.01.56 # Took me a while to understand this 11.02.18 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.02.38 # There are 2 exceptions where just truncating works correctly: (1) when truncationg _by_ 1 bit, (2) when truncating _to_ 1 bit 11.05.25 Quit Blackfish ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 11.06.37 Join ash_ [0] (n=chatzill@219-90-130-111.ip.adam.com.au) 11.07.17 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.07.59 # Hey, whom is the webmin? 11.08.20 # Bagder I think 11.08.29 # admin of what? 11.09.10 # Bagder: I just assumed he was talking about the rockbox website 11.09.24 # yes, but most of that is twiki, hence my q 11.09.34 # True.. Im looking for the CVS stat table 11.09.43 # is that custom or public release? 11.09.52 # you mean the cvs build table? 11.10.00 # or the recent cvs changes? 11.10.09 # changes 11.10.13 # (1) ((level % 2) > matrix[row][col]) ? level/2+1 : level/2 11.10.15 # http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/recentcvs/ 11.10.17 # (2) ((level % 128) > matrix[row][col]) ? level/128 + 1 : level/128 11.10.48 # Excellentos, Cheers 11.11.15 # How "hard" is that to use? does it need the CVS on the local box or can it read the changes 11.11.33 # it just invokes cvs, can be done from anywhere 11.11.49 Join nudelyn [0] (n=leo@dyn-62-56-66-224.dslaccess.co.uk) 11.13.09 # jhMikeS: The basic problem is independent of whether dithering is used or not. 11.13.37 # I like :D 11.14.26 # next question - if im not using viewCVS. does it still work 11.14.27 # that little extra script that gets the dates is a bit stupid 11.14.39 # ash_: yes, it has nothing to do with viewcvs 11.14.50 # you just adjust the "diff" links 11.15.15 # Thanks for this. I havn't actually found anything like this 11.15.24 # that isn't a overkill 11.15.26 # I only see the problem when using halftoning where 192+ get pushed to solid white otherwise you just get equal sized bands 11.15.39 # ash_: hehe, me neither, which is why I wrote it ;-) 11.15.51 # negative values shouldn't be needed at all 11.16.05 # jhMikeS: Equal sized bands _within_ the 0..255 range actually is the problem 11.17.02 # Do you agree that the 4 levels of a 4 bit display correspond to 0, 85, 170 and 255 when expressed as 8 bit values? 11.17.18 # 2 bit display of course 11.20.00 # that's only cause it's 0*255/3, 255/3, 2*255/3, 3*255/3. Not sure why that has to be 11.20.23 Quit nudelyn2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.21.35 # jhMikeS: level 3 on a 2 bit display is white, so it has to correspond to 255 as 8bit value 11.21.43 # Otherwise it wouldn't represent white 11.21.56 # with ordered dither that's not right though 11.22.10 # Dither doesn't change the basic problem 11.23.09 # If you're reducing bit depth, you need to round to the closest level 11.23.27 # Did you look at it with the method above? 11.23.31 # But with trunctating, that's exactly where things go wrong. 11.23.55 # Truncating maps 192 to white, but 192 is nearer to 170 than it is to 255 11.24.27 # Do you agree that converting a 2 bit image to 8 bit and back shouldn't change the image? 11.25.00 # (i.e. 2 bit -> 8 bit -> 2 bit) 11.25.11 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.25.16 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.26.40 # when you're going back it's a different story imo and yes, 0, 85, 170, 255 will go back to 8-bit and truncating those values will get you back your 2 bit values 11.28.08 # If you do 2 bit -> 8 bit correctly (mapping 0, 1, 2 and 3 to 0, 85, 170 and 255; otherwise white wouldn't stay white) and then do 8 bit -> 2 bit by truncating, the image wouldn't be the same anymore 11.28.43 # Hmm, in fact it would... 11.28.55 # ...but just by chance 11.29.08 # not by chance at all 11.30.33 Join antil33t [0] (n=antil33t@125-236-147-242.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) 11.30.53 # this looks like fun 11.31.04 # But if you do the opposite (8 bit -> 2 bit -> 8 bit) using truncation will change the image more than using proper mapping 11.39.32 # * jhMikeS is thinking about what "change the image more" means. rounding could make the sum of the differences zero but not the sum of the absolute values of the differences...I think they'll be the same or very close. 11.41.38 # nope 11.42.20 # E.g. level 192 in the original image would end up white (255) while it's actually closer to 170 (light grey) 11.47.54 Join webguest20 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 11.48.21 # That's what I mean, and what took me a while to understand 11.50.31 # Black and white are the centres of their respective intervals, so while the "black" and the "white" interval should of course be the same width as the other intervals (light grey and dark grey here), 11.50.41 # I'm thinking about more than that. Take an original image and take the sum of a channel diff of 1) the abolute values of the diffs, rounded 2) same thing unrounded. Which has a greater sum? 11.51.24 # the parts of the white and black interval that fall into the 0..255 range are not the same width. They are half as wide 11.52.56 # jhMikeS: It will depend on the actual image, but while both (level % 64) and ((level + 32) % 64) will produce nearly the same errors, 11.53.05 # One of the last changes in CVS (16 Nov 21:04) uses two code snippets that do exactly the same. Isn't there a macro for this? Shouldn't it be created? 11.53.24 # yes...but thats infrared and ultraviolet, only good for rattlesnakes and bees :) 11.54.48 # using ((level + 42) % 85) will produce less errors 11.57.38 # That's exactly the scheme LCD_RGBPACK() and LCD_BRIGHTNESS() used to apply, before you changed them... 11.58.43 # for dithering it's a different story though 11.58.47 # nope 12.01.05 # check it out as I showed above. The goal isn't the same. 12.02.34 # The goal is to make the reduced depth image look as close to the original image as possible 12.02.39 # so you want an 85 level matrix? 12.02.43 # Same rules apply as without dithering 12.02.53 # Yes, you actually need that 12.02.56 # webguest20: Read yesterday's IRC logs... Yes, a macro/function should be created, but it was decided to commit a quick fix and add the function later. 12.03.35 # Or give up a little bit of precision and use a 64 level matrix, but with values of -42 ... +41 12.03.46 # -42..+42 of course 12.03.49 # not in any incarnation I've ever seen and it won't work with that 12.04.06 # It will. Check it out 12.05.01 # Reducing to 1 bit works when using truncation, as there are only 2 intervals which happen to be the end intervals as well 12.05.03 # you should be able to average any dot pattern into the original color 12.05.10 # yes 12.06.24 Quit Kitt0s (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12.08.27 # But that's exactly what's not possible with the current implementation 12.13.28 # Actually, using the generic formula that _used_ to be in LCD_RGBPACK() and LCD_BRIGHTNESS(), we could use a 256 level matrix all the time 12.13.54 # ...unsigned, replacing the fixed rounding factor of 127 that's there when not using dithering 12.14.56 # you're just looking to place 0,85,170,255 as the solid colors produced by the matrix really 12.16.12 # The only tile that works exactly that way is 5x17 but it doesn't distribute the errors at the highest possible frequency 12.17.19 # * webguest20 have read the IRC log from yesterday and thanks linuxstb for the reference 12.17.33 # anything else is an approximation 12.17.55 # hey 12.17.58 # guess what? 12.18.49 # amconn: could use a 15x17 with three differnt arrangements of the values to do it and be very close 12.18.52 # Check it out... I think an 8x8 standard matrix (using the normalised values of 0..255) will work as desired in the generic formula 12.18.55 # i conduct electricty! 12.19.06 # I mean 16x16 of course 12.19.28 # daurnimator: I thought we all did 12.19.45 # well, i hold a speaker cable in one hand 12.19.54 # and an output contact in the other 12.20.02 # and, i get the music out the speakers 12.20.22 # (ground is connected another way) 12.20.31 # lost the highs a bit 12.20.35 # but, its pretty cool 12.20.53 # there's some guy in India that hooks himself up to the wall outlet and lights up lightbulbs that way 12.20.59 # my moving where i touch it to me, i get volume control 12.21.06 Part webguest20 12.23.28 # amiconn: with even dithering bands you'll still get a correct averaging to the original level even if you choose different solid levels as long as there's exactly as many dot patterns as levels 12.27.58 # ...and of course if the area of coverage goes up 1/N for each level increase 12.31.24 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.39 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.31.39 # can't believe I got the IRAM protection in there as simply as I did :P 12.37.25 # something's leaving a stray boost count...I don't think I did it cause I never messed with any boost stuff nor removed any functions by accident afaik 12.39.34 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.168.113) 12.39.56 Quit ender` (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12.40.45 # It's just got a "?" 12.42.02 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.48.08 Quit Soap ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 12.49.55 Quit ash_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.54.01 # jhMikeS: That's correct, but with truncating to 2 bits, you actually create 5 levels to interpolatebetween, while you actually only have 4 destination levels 12.54.54 Join Kitt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.3.32.cable.012.net.il) 12.55.30 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host54-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 12.58.50 # hmmm...scheduler seems to leave a stray boost or something isn't blocking/sleeping 13.01.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.02.08 # jhMikeS: That's probably a timing problem. Even without your changes, several people (including me) observed this behaviour on ipod 13.02.23 # ...but not on coldfire targets 13.02.48 # CPU boosted after boot, with a "?" in the debug screen 13.03.28 # it's there. what do you mean by timing problem. it happens with voice menus enabled. It only seems to call trigger_cpu_boost 13.04.05 # if voice menus are off, no "?" 13.04.43 # and it comes back even if I enable them well after boot 13.08.02 # my guess would be the scheduler clearing the boost flag but not unboosting for the thread so it fails to do so when it blocks/sleeps 13.09.35 # Hmm, possible 13.09.52 # Actually I didn't check whether it's related to voice 13.15.37 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 13.15.54 # Voice only triggers a boost when it starts during Q_VOICE_PLAY and in mp3_play_data but two calls shouldn't hurt it 13.17.01 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-084-006.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.21.42 # any reason auto boosts aren't IDed? 13.23.23 Quit dan_a () 13.27.09 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.28.02 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54933EC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.32.22 # guess it's kind of a lot more code in there 13.33.43 # but I checked it and the stray boost is from the scheduler for sure 13.35.12 # :/ 13.35.20 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@130.149.124.222) 13.37.45 Join gskflakjf [0] (n=kblpnah7@58x81x61x163.ap58.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) 13.38.00 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 13.41.49 Quit gskflakjf ("Leaving...") 13.43.52 # a bonus of the IRAM allocation is that you can use it safely now for anything at any time if needed 13.45.21 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]") 13.46.18 # ...except DMA of course =:P 13.47.34 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 13.48.56 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host54-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 13.51.39 Join Blackfish [0] (n=asd@p548352CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.56.21 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 13.57.24 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host54-204.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 14.21.17 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 14.21.20 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 14.30.02 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEF3D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.35.03 Join any [0] (n=any@any.areality.info) 14.35.06 # hi 14.36.48 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 14.43.11 # ahm, ipod nano 1st gen is using portal player 5020 right? 14.43.30 # No, 5021 14.43.54 # Register compatible, but more power efficient 14.44.03 # gotcha 14.45.09 # hmh so pportalplayer is not handing out the actual chip datasheet... how weak is that 14.45.12 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 14.47.12 # common practise these days unfortunately 14.49.06 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 14.49.14 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 14.59.22 Quit JoeBorn ("hooomeward bound (I wish I was)") 15.01.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.05.24 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.07.26 Quit Kitt0s (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.09.16 # Bagder: doesn't seem like what i wanted with automake is possible after all. seems like the only _CFLAGS variables you can set/append to also have to be entries in the bin_PROGRAMS variable, and my programs aren't single files :/ 15.09.43 # also, m4 is satan 15.18.44 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 15.22.23 # * Bagder pokes his STB 15.23.55 Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") 15.28.46 # Hmm, the categories in Flyspray are *almost* alphabetical.... 15.29.06 # but Bootloader is at the end. 15.33.06 # the sort order can be set by a flyspray admin 15.33.42 # Who's a Flyspray admin then? 15.33.58 # reload! 15.33.59 # ;-) 15.34.03 # Cheers! 15.35.04 # I thought I was going mad(der) 15.37.10 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 15.41.07 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 15.42.27 # Hi! 15.44.41 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 15.45.26 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 15.47.57 # dan_a: Hi! 15.48.08 # Hi Gnelik 15.49.22 # dan_a: How do the work with sansa going, do you need any help??? 15.51.24 # I tried your patch to compile Rockbox - I've made a couple of changes to it. 15.52.03 # One thing that you could do is see how far you can get it to go in the boot process 15.53.53 # But we have no bootloader 15.54.32 # do we? 15.54.35 Join bluebrother [0] (i=482ca7jZ@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 15.54.51 # That doesn't matter - you can install Rockbox as a .mi4 15.55.42 # dan_a: i didns see mi4 file after make 15.55.45 # only bin 15.55.46 # ? 15.55.55 # lol 15.56.22 # I get an mi4 when I do a normal build 15.56.43 # And if I do "make fullzip" it puts the mi4 into the zip 15.58.01 Part LinusN 15.58.09 # dan_a: And another stupid question: howw can i update changed files on my disk to normal from cvs 15.58.10 # ??? 15.58.44 # cvs diff file.c |patch -R -p0 should work 15.58.44 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@59.61.30.64) 15.59.15 Join webguest20 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.59.17 # I use "cvs up -dPC" 15.59.22 Quit webguest20 (Client Quit) 15.59.29 Join webguest55 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 15.59.41 # I usually forget, and just delete the file and run cvs up 16.00.25 # Bagder: Btw, did you actually enable the collection of .map files in the build system, and if so, where are they available? 16.00.37 # no I didn't 16.00.40 # rasher: i did this all time, but i thought there is another way 16.01.23 # Hi. Is there any chance that the patch 5049 (startup screen) will be incorporated into the official builds? I quite often switch on my H120 and then go directly to FM radio. 16.01.48 # And that patch seems to automate it. 16.07.18 Part any ("*plop*") 16.07.43 # The ìóí last stupid question: i make patch < e200_2.patch but it asks me a file name 16.07.59 # I have allready read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches#Applying_A_Patch 16.08.09 # Gnelik: you need -pN, probably -p0 or -p1 16.10.52 Quit [g2] ("Leaving") 16.11.36 # dan_a: your paych seems not to work 16.11.53 # system.c:633:8: warning: "/*" within comment 16.11.54 # system.c:588:1: error: unterminated #if 16.11.54 # system.c:155:1: error: unterminated #elif 16.13.32 Join [g2] [0] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) 16.14.32 # It looks OK here. Hang on, I'll try applying the patch to latest CVS 16.20.55 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 16.21.12 Join Kitt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.3.32.cable.012.net.il) 16.21.46 Quit rconan (Connection timed out) 16.22.09 # Yuk! My editor added ^M all through the patch, even though I've told it not to! 16.22.45 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@s242-005.nomadic.bris.ac.uk) 16.30.06 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 16.30.08 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 16.30.25 Nick myzar is now known as myzar|away (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 16.30.45 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.46.244) 16.35.07 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 16.37.41 # * amiconn recommends dan_a to use a better editor 16.39.34 # I thought I was! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.11.21 # reconfigured make clean; make bin and no file 17.11.23 # :( 17.12.14 Quit scorche (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.12.30 # What do you have after "OBJCOPY rockbox.bin"? 17.13.03 # Build firmware file 17.13.10 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 17.13.19 # And then? 17.13.58 # Nothing 17.19.03 Quit webguest55 ("CGI:IRC") 17.20.40 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 17.21.29 Quit Chrille1 () 17.26.23 Join Gnelik41 [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 17.26.47 # dan_a: Sandisk logo 17.26.51 # nothing more 17.27.22 # That's what I got. 17.29.07 Quit linuxstb_ ("Leaving") 17.30.06 # Not very far 17.30.08 # %) 17.30.25 # The trick now is to work out where it is getting stuck! 17.30.59 # cover the code with sprintf? 17.31.52 # Sort of. lcd_puts() and lcd_update() 17.32.56 # splash() is easier 17.33.28 # (1) it already includes the lcd update. (2) it has printf syntax 17.38.20 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.39.56 Quit bluebrother ("the weekend starts here") 17.41.56 Quit Kitt0s ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 17.44.06 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 17.47.08 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.47.33 Join SmilinBob [0] (n=Bob@31.248.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 17.48.29 # hello 17.50.12 # i had a question, but i'm not sure weather it's something to do with rockbox or with the specific theme i am using... 17.50.27 Join Kitt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.3.32.cable.012.net.il) 17.50.30 Join nudelyn2 [0] (n=leo@dyn-62-56-66-224.dslaccess.co.uk) 17.50.46 # SmilinBob: Ask the question, if anyone can answer, they will. 17.50.55 # it looks for cover.bmp as the album art, is there a way to make it use folder.jpg? 17.55.20 # SmilinBob it can't use jpg albom art 17.55.24 # as far as i know 17.55.28 # =( 17.55.34 # back to renaming... 17.55.38 # Album art isn't supported in Rockbox. Glancing through the patch details (FS#3045) it doesn't look like it can use jpg 17.55.59 # * dan_a types too slowly 17.56.08 # dan_a :) 17.56.14 # heh 17.57.28 # dan_a: Will splash function work in any place of code? 17.57.38 # Just renaming won't magically convert a jpg into a bmp 17.57.50 # well converting/renaming 17.57.53 # Gnelik41: I've never used it 17.57.53 # =P 17.57.56 # +) 17.58.07 # Gnelik41: In most places, as long as it's not time critical 17.58.31 # Oh, and you shouldn't use splash() or any any lcd command in an isr 17.59.16 # over the past week or so i have been re writing all my id3 tags... 17.59.24 # quite a tedious process 17.59.49 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 18.00.13 Quit nudelyn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.02.00 # dan_a: Debug will only work after lcd_init 18.02.14 # am i right? 18.03.49 # Gnelik41: Yes. So try putting a debug right after that, and see if it gets that far. 18.04.21 # I made it a second befour your message 18.04.25 # :) 18.05.30 # splash() needs screen_access_init() as well 18.06.32 # Ah, but we know that we're not getting as far as show_logo() 18.07.10 # yes 18.08.59 # System kernel buffer power inits 18.10.07 # Is there a led that can be controlled by a port pin? 18.10.36 # I think no 18.10.45 # Therre is scroll backlight 18.11.03 # but i dont think we have control of it 18.11.43 # We do - I'm just trying to find the address/bit to write to 18.12.33 # Such a led is a nice debugging aid when not even the lcd does work yet 18.13.31 # You can even use it to output byte values if you have a means for coarse timing 18.13.45 # I used that to debug the self extractor for archos 18.14.13 # 0x70000020 bit 13 turns the blue scrollwheel LED on and off 18.14.58 # ...flashing bytes via the red LED. Short on == 0 bit, Long on == 1 bit. Short off time between bits, Long off after each nibble 18.15.31 # Somewhat like morse code 18.15.51 # -... -.-. would be 0x8A 18.16.06 # My local bootloader has kernel, adc, lcd and ata inits before doing show_logo(). I'm pretty sure that adc and ata init won't be needed. 18.16.36 # amiconn: That sounds ingenius and difficult! 18.16.51 Quit ravon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.17.16 # Easier than it sounds 18.21.18 # dan_a: For show_logo() you also need font_init() 18.21.19 # dan_a: i am C newbie how can i write to 0x70000020 bit 13?? 18.23.45 # Can't we just init lcd befour all??? 18.23.52 # Gnelik41: Have a look at bootloader/e200.c 18.24.50 # I think you could move lcd_init to the start... give me two minutes to check the source 18.25.23 # it neds kernel 18.25.24 # init 18.25.42 # lcd thread inits there 18.26.04 # kernel_init should work 18.27.53 Nick dan_a is now known as dan_a_away (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 18.29.41 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 18.47.46 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.49.45 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.01.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.03.27 Quit midgey34 () 19.07.18 # is it correct that the 80gb 5.5G ipod uses a new disk controller? 19.08.59 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.09.16 Join Febs [0] (i=2662c44b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.12.17 # this ipodlinux wiki says so : http://ipodlinux.org/5.5G_Installation 19.12.30 # however it contradicts what I've read so far 19.12.36 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.18.15 Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 19.18.59 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 19.21.39 Quit Gnelik41 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.22.15 # "80GB iPods use a new disk controller." 19.22.17 # ! 19.22.41 # In fact that's strange, since the disk controller is part of the pp afaik 19.22.48 Quit Ribs (Nick collision from services.) 19.22.49 Nick Ribs2 is now known as Ribs (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 19.23.12 # indeed 19.28.02 Quit SmilinBob ("Leaving") 19.28.22 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 19.28.58 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-252-230-67.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 19.36.22 Quit Wett (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.54 Join GolerGkA [0] (n=GolerGkA@213.141.159.168) 19.53.54 Quit GolerGkA (Client Quit) 19.54.21 Join GolerGkA [0] (n=GolerGkA@213.141.159.168) 19.54.53 # can anyone help with make problems on linux? 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21.00.20 Join t0dk0n [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-231-244-54.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 21.00.41 Join GFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-14-248.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.00.45 # For the last hour, tag cache keeps saying "Tag Cache isn't ready" 21.01.13 # does it take a while? or is it buggy? :P 21.01.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.01.31 # both really :-) 21.01.40 # damn haha 21.01.58 # how long would it take to generate aboot, 10gb of fresh music? 21.02.03 # an estimate 21.02.17 # no idea. 21.02.22 # okie dokie 21.02.30 # Dunno, but not an hour 21.02.45 # You need to reboot after generating 21.02.50 # ahh 21.02.52 # thanks 21.03.06 Quit GFoux (Client Quit) 21.03.13 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 21.03.38 # yay! =D 21.06.07 # I like how you can turn shuffle and repeat on/off without going through menus.. that was one of the biggest annoyances of the apple firmware imo 21.06.28 # Yeah, quickmenu is nice. 21.09.37 # Its not so bad on the battery either 21.11.16 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46C50.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.14.06 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 21.15.12 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54849C15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.15.14 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.17.58 # crossfeed is amazing 0_0 21.18.00 Quit GreyFoux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.18.12 # does that take up much battery power? 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It does not show up in the "Browse Plugins" list. 21.33.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockboy 21.34.13 # Do not ask for Gameboy/Gameboy Color roms on forums or irc because it is illegal. 21.34.32 # haha thanks 21.34.39 # I know, I know 21.34.51 # well, its not illegal to ask for them, its illegal to download them :P 21.34.59 # true. 21.36.43 Join vx [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.37.34 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.236.205) 21.39.57 # haha sweet, gbc is actually in color 21.43.45 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-ONE-FIFTY-ONE.MIT.EDU) 21.45.51 Quit blue_lizard ("WeeChat 0.2.1") 21.47.49 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p549871E7.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.50.31 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.52.02 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.53.59 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.58.34 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493402F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.01.17 Join flo___ [0] (n=Florian@mur75-1-81-57-44-51.fbx.proxad.net) 22.02.03 Part flo___ 22.05.15 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 22.07.17 # rasher: Yes, make clean && ../tools/configre && make - several times. 22.10.09 Join _ke [0] (n=dgsiegel@e181080214.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.12.10 Quit vx ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.14.16 Join JonathanF [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-88-155-185-148.red.bezeqint.net) 22.14.30 # <_ke> hi! i tried to install rockbox on an ipod 5 (60gb), but when i try to install the bootloader with ./diskdump -w /dev/disk1 rockboot.bin (under MACOSX) i got this: 22.14.33 # <_ke> 0 0x0b 63 117210239 57231 22.14.34 # <_ke> [INFO] Seeking to sector 63 22.14.34 # <_ke> [WARN] Seek error - reading 63 sectors instead 22.14.34 DBUG Enqueued KICK _ke 22.14.34 # <_ke> [INFO] Writing input file to device 22.14.34 # <_ke> [INFO] Wrote 12803584 bytes. 22.14.42 # Anyone? 22.14.44 # :$ 22.14.46 # Are you doing it on a new ipod? 22.14.55 # <_ke> and then there isnt a blue screen but i should connect to itunes 22.15.03 # <_ke> no, its the video 5 22.15.06 # <_ke> not 5.5 22.15.17 # alright, well, I did all I can do :P 22.15.25 # <_ke> o.. 22.15.29 # <_ke> not good 22.15.54 # someone else could prolly help 22.15.56 # hahaha 22.16.09 # <_ke> someone else? 22.16.16 # <_ke> hello there.. 22.16.49 # <_ke> anyone out there? 22.16.55 # patience is a virtue 22.17.00 # <_ke> ;) 22.17.22 # it's kinda boring in here 22.17.35 # yea-a-ah 22.17.47 # O'well 22.17.56 # yet no experts in linux making??? 22.17.59 Nick JonathanF is now known as Akhenaten (n=chatzill@bzq-88-155-185-148.red.bezeqint.net) 22.18.04 # its a tech support room, since I learned the hard way yesterday ^_^ 22.18.07 # not social 22.18.20 # :) 22.18.22 # I use Linux :P 22.18.23 # I've tryied EVERYTIHNG already :( 22.18.31 # but I don't know what you mean by "Linux-making" 22.18.34 # infact I was looking for a music-chat room. 22.18.55 # I've tried to make the firmware under linux for couple of hours already 22.18.56 # though rockbox must be related to music, too bad i didnt check the topic ;) 22.19.17 # but all I get is stupid errors... 22.19.35 # http://pastebin.ca/251077 22.19.35 # hmm, why do you need to make it? 22.19.37 # lol 22.19.47 # I mean compile 22.19.56 # I know what make is 22.20.02 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Connection timed out) 22.20.07 # but why are you trying to make rockbox? 22.20.08 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.10.63) 22.20.19 # oooh, are you doing it from source? 22.20.20 # haha 22.20.28 # GolerGkA: cat: SOURCES: No such file or directory - what happened to those files? 22.20.31 Join Febs [0] (i=2662c44b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.21.00 # first of all I never compiled smth for any nonPC before, and at the second place I've tried to apply the last.fm patch 22.21.16 # I don't know what files does it mean! 22.21.25 # that's the problem 22.21.28 # which one?? last.fm logging was included in CVS on october 19th 22.21.31 # oooh, I got you haha 22.21.47 # I dunno about 22.22.11 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c80-216-155-218.bredband.comhem.se) 22.22.13 # anyway I JUST WANT TO COMPILE IT COS IT'S COOL TO SEE THESE GREEN LINES RUNNING! =) 22.22.21 # lol 22.22.32 # GolerGkA: which patch?? did you download the source tarball, or are you using cvs? 22.22.39 # and for real, I just want to learn how to do it 22.22.43 # cvs 22.23.04 # I've decided just to compile the cvs for the first time, to learn how the process goes 22.24.20 # try a "cvs up -dPC" - that will restore your cvs tree to a clean state 22.24.28 # I just don't understand what files are absent! I've done all as manual tells, and I've tried moving ANY FILES to build folder... nothing worked 22.24.43 # am I to do that in the rockbox-devel folder? 22.24.47 # yes 22.25.27 # cvs update: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option 22.25.27 # cvs [update aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable. 22.25.43 # am I to run it with -d? 22.26.03 # Do you guys use your own ChatZilla skins? 22.26.12 Quit _ke ("Leaving") 22.26.16 # or run the CVS login command again 22.26.24 # (if any ChatZilla users out there ;)) 22.27.08 # cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login ? 22.27.17 # I've done it, but it didn't help 22.27.48 # the cvs restore command still not working 22.28.03 # I guess I have to RTFM cvs properly... :( 22.28.04 # rockbox.haxx.se?? where did you find that? 22.28.08 # cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox login 22.28.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile ! 22.28.24 # OK, thank you 22.28.46 # [root@36787 rockbox-devel]# cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox login 22.28.46 # Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:2401/cvsroot/rockbox 22.28.46 # CVS password: 22.28.46 DBUG Enqueued KICK GolerGkA 22.28.46 # [root@36787 rockbox-devel]# cvs up -dPC 22.28.46 # cvs update: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option 22.28.46 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.28.46 # cvs [update aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable. 22.28.49 # :( 22.28.50 # ah, they point to the same place anyway, so I don't think that will make a difference 22.29.09 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 22.29.19 # :) 22.29.59 # May be I should delete all rockbox-dev and start all over... but I didn't modify it except the creation of build folder! :( 22.31.11 # might be worth trying to see if you can check out a clean copy from scratch 22.31.23 # OK, I'll try 22.31.32 # may be I better download tarball? 22.31.43 # Nah, cvs is the better choice 22.32.03 # :) 22.33.24 # Oh, BTW - now I'm downloadind cvs - why does it say about any file "no such file or directory" though finally it downloads all of it? Is it normal? 22.38.47 *** Alert Mode OFF 22.43.59 # IT DIDN'T HELP... OMG I DID ALL FROM THE BEGINNING BUT AGAIN - ALL I'VE GOT ARE SOME STUPID ERRORS! 22.45.36 # same errors? 22.45.51 # What's the errors from cvs? 22.46.22 # cat: SOURCES: No such file or directory 22.46.22 # MAKE in bitmaps/mono 22.46.22 # cat: SOURCES: No such file or directory 22.46.22 # AR+RANLIB libbitmapsmono.a 22.46.22 # MAKE in bitmaps/native 22.46.23 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.46.23 # cat: SOURCES: No such file or directory 22.46.27 # AR+RANLIB libbitmapsnative.a 22.46.29 # MAKE in bitmaps/remote_mono 22.46.30 # pastebin! 22.46.31 # cat: SOURCES: No such file or directory 22.46.35 # A 22.46.37 # OK 22.46.52 # stupid question time - you do have a copy of cat in your path? 22.47.24 # http://pastebin.ca/251203 22.47.58 # copy of what? I know cat as a simple console program to view files 22.48.16 # yup, that's the one 22.48.17 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.24 # do I need it? 22.48.27 # Okay, another question, might be unrelated 22.48.30 # But why are you root? 22.48.35 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 22.48.42 # lol 22.48.59 # cos I've just installed m68k-elf-gcc 22.49.16 # GolerGkA: yes, you need it 22.49.44 # but where to get it? I know how to launch it but I don't know where are binaries 22.49.53 # and what for do I need em? 22.49.58 # as long as you can launch it, that's fine 22.50.14 # ok, fortunately I can. You meant in $PATH 22.50.24 # obo: Assuming he doesn't actually type the full path to launch it. 22.50.36 # yes 22.50.39 # Paul_the_Nerd: true 22.53.35 # other ideas of what to do for poor me? 22.54.13 Join luckyone [0] (n=hidden@CPE-65-28-2-251.kc.res.rr.com) 22.54.20 # hello friends 22.54.35 Part Akhenaten 22.54.42 # I just recently found out about rockbox - I put it on my wife's ipod mini, it is really cool 22.55.03 # what I am most excited about is a port to my Sansa e260, I can't freaking wait for that 22.55.14 # GolerGkA: which path are you in? pwd 22.55.58 # I bet there's a space in it 22.56.24 *** Alert Mode OFF 22.56.25 # what is the best thing for total and utter newbs to do to help you guys? 22.56.52 # luckyone: Writing documentation is probably the easiest part, once you know how Rockbox works 22.57.02 # luckyone: get familiar, try the sim, help out where *you* think you can contribute 22.57.03 # is there a donation on sourceforge or something, I could send Ritalin smoothies to devs 22.57.43 # there's a (paypal) donation button on the site 22.57.47 # sweet 22.57.47 # media/H300/rockbox-devel/build 22.58.00 # well, rock on guys 22.58.11 # great work so far 22.58.38 # besides the forum, is there anywhere else I can keep up-to-date on the Sansa port of Rockbox? 22.58.55 # rasher: it's just a folder I made to do a build, as in the manual 22.59.18 # luckyone: the forum thread for the sansa is probably the single best place, but some stuff might happen on the dev list too 22.59.19 # Full path please 22.59.44 # Waitwaitwait 22.59.49 # Are you building on your h300 22.59.53 # yes 22.59.56 # Don't 22.59.56 # Bagder: I think I read your name in the forum posts, are you working on the NAND read/write stuff? 23.00.02 # The FAT filesystem will mangle files 23.00.04 # filenames 23.00.13 # Specifically all caps filenames 23.00.15 # Ooh! That's the thing 23.00.31 # I know it. but I didn't think about that 23.00.33 # luckyone: I'm not writing the code, but I'm a hang-around. dan_a and barrywardell are the ones poking on the fs code 23.00.33 # THANX 23.00.45 # I'll try one more time 23.01.09 # Bagder: well, give them my best wishes, I will buy you guys some pizzas this weekend! 23.01.28 # Thanks for giving me hope for the aweful firmware on my Sansa! 23.01.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.03.10 Part luckyone 23.03.21 # BTW is there any rockbox livejournal community? 23.05.50 Quit Siku () 23.07.45 # Wee! 23.08.02 # Wee? 23.08.47 # New BMP loader now works like a charm. 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24 and 32 bit BMPs. Correctly scaled dithering to 2 bit 23.09.01 # And I almost achieved my goal wrt code size 23.09.21 # Didn't touch dithering to 16 bit yet, that will be an extra commit 23.09.22 Quit t0dk0n ("Leaving.") 23.09.40 # amiconn: test any gradients? 23.09.57 # I used a gradient-rich backdrop 23.10.36 # I'd use one with the full 256 levels. There should be no bands of solid color wider than 1px. 23.10.53 # There won't be, guaranteed. 23.13.29 # I can see a signed matrix shouldn't be needed to get it that way 23.13.43 # No signed matrix 23.14.16 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-41.net-81-220-108.rev.numericable.fr) 23.14.16 # I adapted the generic formula (from lcd.h) which happens to contain a level shift of 127 for proper rounding 23.14.44 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.14.44 # With dithering enabled, this constant level shift is replaced by one element of the dither matrix 23.16.01 # I just figure it for solid colors of 3*n/255 at 2-bit and a 85 level pos matrix would produce no aliasing of patterns 23.16.53 # The formula with correct rounding is (3*n +127)/255 23.17.31 # Replace the 127 with the dither matrix element (canonical 16x16 matrix with values of 0..255, and you have the same thing dithered without any solid colour banding 23.18.04 # I just use ((3*n + levelshift) * 257) >> 16 to avoid the division 23.19.55 # But the best thing is that with all those features added, for h120 this is 4, 15,16 and 32 bit support and dithering, the code is still a few bytes smaller than the old one 23.20.07 # On recorder I exceeded my goal by 52 bytes 23.20.37 # h300 isn't final yet (old dithering), and on mini I get +160 bytes 23.20.52 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.20.59 # Wouldn't the h120 want 2 bit as well? (for remote) 23.21.04 # eh, 1 bit 23.21.11 # That's automatic 23.21.18 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 23.21.24 # But remote isn't supported yet 23.21.37 # ..other than FORMAT_MONO 23.21.41 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 23.21.47 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-183-138.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 23.21.49 # This is another step 23.22.06 Nick jhMikeS is now known as jhMikeS___ (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-183-138.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 23.22.41 Nick jhMikeS___ is now known as jhMikeS (n=jethead7@adsl-75-46-183-138.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 23.26.00 # backdrops on a mono display aren't so good 23.26.27 Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) 23.27.47 # Rounded corners, Mac style! 23.35.20 Quit bbroke ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 23.35.22 # figuring out all the paths in playback.c that lead to first buffer use after a stop sucks >:[ 23.43.35 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp150-150.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.44.44 Quit PaulPosition () 23.50.51 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )")