--- Log for 23.11.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 20 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.29 # I was gonna say something but I fear I may be affected by the 'foot in mouth disease' so I'll refrain from spouting nonsense. And I gotta go anyway, so... 00.00.41 # have a nice evening/morning/drinking everyone. 00.01.13 Quit PaulPosition () 00.05.03 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 00.10.12 Part Wett 00.10.39 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.10.56 Join Wett [0] (n=Wett@d01m-89-83-159-18.d4.club-internet.fr) 00.12.38 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p5493175B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.13.17 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.13.42 Quit jba (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.15.11 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.15.49 Quit z0de () 00.17.25 Join z0de [0] (i=z0de@80-194-233-59.cable.ubr01.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.25.45 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-11-151-70.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.27.29 Join jba [0] (n=jba@postoffice.rogen.com.au) 00.29.15 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.31.58 # apple has changed the error messages on the ipod 00.40.13 # do go on 00.41.10 # there is no more sad ipod 00.41.42 # i'll snap a picture in a second 00.41.43 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 00.42.49 Quit matsl_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.42.49 Join matsl__ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.46.40 Quit linuxstb_ (Client Quit) 00.47.32 # it's sad when i can't get the image with any of my cameras, it just comes out blurrly 00.48.10 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.48.58 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 00.52.00 Part Terinjokes 00.52.40 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-11-151-70.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.54.36 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.54.48 # http://aboveultimate.com/spader/nanoerror.jpg 00.55.35 # thats out of focus. if they cant read it how can they help? 00.55.47 # oh i read above. 00.57.10 # yeah, it says "Please use iTunes to restore" 00.57.21 # no it doesn't 00.57.32 # says "Use iTunes to restore" 00.57.50 # they don't say please... 00.58.18 # i'll have access to a better camera tonight, so if you guess want to wait a bit 00.59.05 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 01.00.24 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.01.18 # can someone resend my wiki password to me? i forgot it 01.01.50 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.03.25 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 01.03.25 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.236.208) 01.04.22 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 01.04.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.32 Quit ender` (" Drive defensively. Buy a tank.") 01.10.06 # hrm...need to backup the firmware 01.20.02 # Terinjokes: no macro mode? try backing away 01.20.24 # without macro mode you can't get close shots in-focus 01.21.47 # so you back away from the subject and it has a better time focusing on it... you take advantage of the megapixels to still get a usable resolution and crop to the effectively small image area of interest 01.22.53 # i got 2 freaking megapixels with this camera, my good one is on my desk....just i'm not near my desk 01.23.07 # should be enough 01.23.17 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-213-168-119-229.netcologne.de) 01.23.27 # you don't need it to be desktop size 01.24.00 # if its in focus, stuff can be readable even without quite enough resolution to make it truely legible 01.24.47 # yeah, but it's a nano, screen's a bit scratched, i tried getting a clear shot, close up, and from farther away....but this is a really cheap camera 01.25.16 # i don't even think the things got focus... 01.25.17 # actually if you take the screen resolution of the device 01.25.43 # you can get away with the screen area in the image having (somewhat/slightly) less resolution in the photo and still be able to read it 01.26.08 # Terinjokes: usually focus is a range... it has a near value and then the far value is infinity 01.26.20 # Terinjokes: typically 01.26.27 Join Psiuyo [0] (n=me@S0106000f66cdc7db.cg.shawcable.net) 01.26.35 # Terinjokes: so even if the camera can't focus, you just need to get things far enough to be past the near value 01.26.41 Part arkascha ("Konversation terminated!") 01.26.58 # i'll try again in a bit 01.27.20 # BTW, i heard that rockbox was going to try the zune, did i hear bad news? 01.28.18 # i've no idea if its even important to have an image of the screen, i'm just conveying my understanding out of an academic interest and general helpfulness, along with the curiosity to see if it pans out :p 01.28.30 # and i've no idea about the zune, maybe search the irc logs? 01.28.44 Part Wett 01.29.05 # hrm...w/e 01.29.22 # who cares about error messages anyways 01.29.23 # i never even heard of the zune untill i saw it in a bestbuy ad 01.29.43 # which was just like last week or so 01.30.18 # and i thought "wow, somebody's trying to do an ipod-killer" 01.30.28 # with a rip-off of ipod's styling :p 01.30.43 Join Wett [0] (n=Wett@d01m-89-83-159-18.d4.club-internet.fr) 01.30.45 # YES!!!!!!! 01.30.52 # I've finally got it! 01.31.09 # Rockbox works with Nano firmware 1.3!!!!! 01.31.28 # congrats 01.31.42 # i'm still waiting till i can get rockbox on my mom's 80G 5.5g ipod 01.31.58 # it dual-boots properly now (ie, songs appear in both OF and in Rockbox) 01.32.46 # now i can choose weather i want to use OF or Rockbox 01.33.35 # * Terinjokes chooses Rockbox, but other people use the ipod, so they my wish to use OF 01.33.56 # I care about changed error messages if the wiki/manual needs to be updated to reflect what users will actually be asking about. 01.34.31 Quit obo ("bye") 01.34.33 # I assume your install with apple firmware 1.3 was identical to the nano 1.2/video install? 01.34.35 # Soap, true, true...mind reseting my password on the wiki so i may update the directions for installing rockbox on nano 01.34.43 # sí 01.34.51 # I do not have that power. 01.34.59 # resend the password? 01.37.04 # I assume the change you are refering to is: 01.37.06 # 01.37.06 # TWiki > Main > IpodPort > IpodInstallation 01.37.06 # Main . { Users | Groups | Changes | Index | Search | Go } 01.37.06 DBUG Enqueued KICK Soap 01.37.06 # How to install Rockbox on your iPod 01.37.06 # * First, a thank you 01.37.07 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.37.07 # * Introduction 01.37.08 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.37.09 # * Notes before installing 01.37.11 # o Rockbox works only on FAT32 formatted iPods 01.37.13 # o Music browsing 01.37.15 # o Installers 01.37.17 # * Warning For iPod Nano 1st gen Users 01.37.19 # * Uninstallation and Upgrade instructions 01.37.20 Join webguest13 [0] (i=47cdc369@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.37.21 # * Installation instructions 01.37.23 # o Step 1 - Install Rockbox 01.37.25 # + a) Download rockbox.zip for your iPod 01.37.27 # + b) Unzip rockbox.zip to your iPod 01.37.29 # o Step 2: Install the bootloader 01.37.31 # + a) Download the required files 01.37.35 # + b) Find your iPod 01.37.37 # + c.1) (all users except iPodLinux users) Read the existing firmware partition from your iPod 01.37.39 # no Soap, it's the whole guide, just updates here and there 01.37.39 # + c.2) (iPodLinux users only) Extract an unmodified firmware image 01.37.41 # + d.1) (All users INCLUDING Video/5G) Extract the Apple firmware from your firmware partition image. 01.37.45 # + d.2) (iPod Video/5G and Nano 1st gen with Apple firmware v1.2 users only) Extract the resource image from your firmware partition image. 01.37.47 # + e) Create the new Rockbox-enabled image file containing the Rockbox Bootloader 01.37.49 # + f) Install the bootloader! 01.37.51 # + g) Testing 01.37.53 # o Step 3 - Download and read the manual 01.37.55 # o Step 4 - Enjoy Rockbox 01.37.59 # * Further information about using Rockbox 01.38.00 # * Recovering from a crash 01.38.02 # * Installing Rockbox along with iPL Loader2 Boot Menu (UNOFFICIAL AND UNSUPPORTED!) 01.38.04 # This page contains instructions for Windows users. Mac OS users should use IpodInstallationFromMacOSX. Linux users should use IpodInstallationFromLinux. 01.38.09 # First, a thank you 01.38.11 # The Rockbox port to the iPod has only been made possible by the hard work of the members of the ipodlinux project who have performed the difficult and time-consuming task of understanding a hardware platform with almost no available documentation. If it wasn't for th 01.38.15 # whoa 01.38.16 # I didn't think I selected all that. 01.38.19 # sorry all 01.38.20 # missing my point in the mass paste 01.38.22 # d.2) (iPod Video/5G and Nano 1st gen with Apple firmware v1.2 users only) Extract the resource image from your firmware partition image. 01.38.26 # to 01.38.29 # d.2) (iPod Video/5G and Nano 1st gen with Apple firmware v1.2 or greater users only) Extract the resource image from your firmware partition image. 01.38.47 # why cant rockbox be run on newer video ipods? will it ever be able to run on them? 01.39.02 # Soap, i'm going to update the whole guide, there updates i've noticed all over the place 01.39.37 # just, it's rejecting my user/pass as i remember it 01.39.40 # webguest13: it can on the 30gig 5.5G, the problem with the 80gig is unknown, thus a timeline is unknowable, but it is highly believed it will be resolved. 01.39.46 # webguest13> It works on the new 30GB, just not the 80GB 01.40.32 # Soap: Psiuyo : ok thanks 01.40.59 Quit matsl__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.41.08 # is there going to be a vlc port for rockbox? that would truly rock 01.41.23 # LOL, probablt not 01.41.54 # i thought the problem with the 80G was that its formatted with at (unsupported) larger block size? 01.42.04 # or something like that 01.42.04 # Though overestimates the power of a 80mhz dual core ARM processor. 01.42.20 # whoa spelling. 01.42.37 # what about a pdf viewer? 01.42.54 # Have you seen the PDF viewers for PalmPilots? 01.42.58 # yes 01.43.00 # The official one? 01.43.05 # no, that one sucks 01.43.09 # soap: nope 01.43.13 # i have a palm TX 01.43.28 # on a 320x320 screen PDFs formated for a printed (8.5x11) page stink. 01.43.44 # Plucker would be a better viewer IMHO. 01.44.06 # there, remember my user/pass combo 01.44.06 # i would like to see an open source operating system for the sony reader 01.45.25 # the sony reader looks pretty worthless as is...but would have such great open source potential 01.45.58 # the zune looks pretty worthless as is...but would have such great open source potential 01.46.26 # honking processor on the zune. 01.47.08 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.47.28 # a next generation nokia internet tablet might be worthwhile 01.47.37 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 01.47.40 # if they make the right decisions 01.47.54 Part Terinjokes 01.48.10 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-11-151-70.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.48.37 # can someone please remove that annoying message from chanserv on joining the channel? 01.50.34 # i dont understand why some company just doesnt create a kickass portable hardware device and then have a team like rockbox design the os and drop off the specs 01.52.22 # or like imagine micro sized pcs where you could just exchange parts 01.52.47 # because it's not good business since for big companies 01.53.08 # the pc did a lot of good for business 01.53.14 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.132) 01.55.55 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.192.155) 01.56.21 # there would just have to be like an ibm to set a standard...or i dont see why an opensource community could draw up specs for something, give it to a coroporation with a promise that the code remains open and then just go from there 01.59.00 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.02.49 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.05.38 Quit dan_a (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.10.57 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.10.59 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.15.28 Part pixelma 02.20.14 Join habana [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 02.23.09 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 02.24.16 Quit NickDe (Remote closed the connection) 02.27.22 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 02.28.49 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 02.28.52 Quit funky ("leaving") 02.29.37 Join bit_ [0] (n=bit@host-69-145-107-11.csr-wy.client.bresnan.net) 02.31.42 Part bit_ 02.34.34 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.36.27 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Remote closed the connection) 02.40.15 # what's dithering? 02.42.04 Join ztorm [0] (n=masdasd@84.209.213.114) 02.42.39 # Any expert here atm? 02.55.16 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.01.18 Part Terinjokes 03.04.09 # ztorm: just ask your question instead of asking permission ;) 03.04.15 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (i=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.04.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.05.16 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 03.06.23 # Well just followed the manual installing rockbox on my 2:nd generation Ipod mini. It ended up with an error "rockbox error -1" and some more. (dont know which of it is relevant). Anyways now my computer dosnt detect the harddrive on the ipod and its rebooting constantly:) 03.07.37 # well, first off enable disk mode by pressing select+play when it reboots 03.08.52 # Okay, worked :) 03.09.52 # Im guessing im missing some files in my ipod, since im not seeing any boot files 03.11.22 # did you copy the rockbox.ipod file and the .rockbox folder tot he root of the device? 03.11.35 # rockbox-ipodmini2g-20061122 03.11.50 # the entire thing? 03.11.50 # that is the bootloader 03.12.07 # you have to go get a daily or CVS build from the site and unzip it to the root 03.12.18 # ah okay 03.12.44 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-11-151-70.mia.bellsouth.net) 03.13.48 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.13.49 # Everything is to be extrated to the root of the ipod? 03.13.50 # in a WPS, can i force rockbox back to the default font? 03.14.04 # rockbox.ipod should be in root 03.14.15 # the folder .rockbox should also be in root 03.14.34 Join shrimants [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-221-70-244.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 03.14.44 # hey there 03.15.10 # Terinjokes: you can make it whatever font you specify... 03.15.21 # what's the default font called? 03.15.44 # and how would i call it? 03.16.05 # download the build and ceck whats in the fonts folder to begin with 03.16.21 # and that would be the default font 03.16.23 # i think 03.16.51 # wrong ;) 03.16.52 # there is no font on a straight build 03.17.02 # the default is hardcoded in 03.17.07 # as with the default wps 03.17.41 # how can i call on that font then? if a user uses another font, then nothing appears correctly 03.17.55 # damn 03.18.01 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.18.01 # * shrimants kills himself in shame 03.18.02 # font: /.rockbox/fonts/rockbox_default.fnt 03.19.09 # put that in the mytheme.cfg under /.rockbox/themes 03.19.38 # it's actually /.rockbox/fonts/rockbox_default.fnt 03.19.47 # nvm 03.19.51 # err...heh 03.20.32 # scorche many thanks for you help :) 03.21.12 # hey is it possible to delete the plugins that come with rockbox 03.21.17 # all the ipl stuff? 03.21.20 # Terinjokes: dittering is the process of using randomness to create order. 03.21.22 # and would that make it run faster? 03.21.25 # i mean boot 03.21.54 # * scorche quizzically glances at Soap 03.22.22 # shrimants: what do the plugins have to do with ipl? 03.22.30 # Soap, i already looked it up in WP, so slow :) 03.22.32 # In the context of rockbox it is the process of adding a random element to the rounding of maths in the audio decoding so that a predictable set of rounding errors does not lead to audible harmonics. 03.22.51 # oh no, i meant they are found on ipl also 03.22.53 # Terinjokes: yes he is =) 03.23.19 # shrimants, the plugins are different 03.23.31 # but can they be removed? 03.23.40 # yes 03.23.46 # would it boot faster? 03.23.50 # no? 03.23.54 # no 03.23.56 # then screw it 03.23.58 # lol 03.24.08 # i might as well have something to fiddle with in class 03.24.12 # the rocks are cool! 03.24.14 # if it makes no difference 03.24.22 # oh yeah, is there a sleep mode? 03.24.33 # cuz i have to keep shutting it down 03.24.49 # there is no sleep mode at this time. 03.24.55 # k thnx 03.25.07 # sorry, but you have to wat those couple of seconds 03.25.12 # wait 03.25.13 # ;) 03.25.17 # lol 03.25.32 # i was about to switch back to normal fw 03.25.41 # cuz i didnt see the tag cache view 03.25.54 # and then i realized what it does when you hold the menu button 03.26.02 # and now, screw apple default fw 03.26.08 # i dont watch movies and pics anyways 03.26.13 # Ah so nice with rockbox ^^ 03.26.20 # Off to bed now, thanks again scorche 03.26.22 # pics work fine with rockbox... 03.26.25 # i n 03.26.27 # o 03.26.31 # but i dont use them 03.26.31 # scorche, not GIFs 03.26.40 # oh that reminds me 03.26.41 Quit ztorm () 03.26.51 # gotta offload pics from camera to comp 03.26.53 # brb 03.27.05 Nick shrimants is now known as shrimants_pictur (n=chatzill@ppp-69-221-70-244.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 03.27.17 Join menosm [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fb398.dsl.mindspring.com) 03.29.54 # stupid batteries 03.30.08 # i cant wait till MIT perfects their wireless energy technology 03.30.20 Nick shrimants_pictur is now known as shrimants (n=chatzill@ppp-69-221-70-244.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 03.30.37 # grr...my theme file stopped working 03.30.47 # oh noes 03.30.55 # im using RaiderX's themeXglow 03.31.28 # any ideas on why the folder '.rockbox'had to start with a period 03.31.40 # i was wondering that 03.31.49 # soooo annoying on my mac 03.31.55 # lol macs 03.31.59 # i hate windows tho :( 03.32.11 # mac seems so shitty cuz it used to be so shitty 03.32.18 # but then you walk into the apple store 03.32.19 # * scorche ahems 03.32.20 # and you use one 03.32.39 # and then you realize that bill gates should take his dell and shove it up his a** 03.32.50 # you realise "wow, these things are really white" 03.32.54 # lol 03.32.58 # and then you look some more 03.33.06 # and see that there are black ones... 03.33.12 # and silver...\ 03.33.15 # there black imacs? 03.33.16 # ;) 03.33.19 # and you realize "wow if i donate both kidneys and my lower half, i might be able to afford the 17 inch" 03.33.39 # * scorche notices that his ahem went unnoticed 03.33.40 # * shrimants donates both kidneys and his lower half 03.33.45 # what scorche? 03.33.51 # * shrimants notices scorche's ahem 03.34.05 # i noticed the ahem, but was wanting for some words 03.34.07 # * shrimants ignores the alleged 'ahem's connotation 03.34.19 # * scorche growls 03.34.24 # * shrimants purrs 03.34.26 # ? 03.34.28 # lol 03.34.39 # * shrimants throws meat at scorche 03.34.40 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.34.50 # stop growling 03.34.52 # * scorche types /msg 03.34.57 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.34.58 # oh noes 03.35.05 # secrets arent fun!!! 03.35.07 # * scorche adds chanserv 03.35.09 # scorche! continue 03.35.20 # (wow we got really side tracked) 03.35.29 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF661D.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.35.51 # yeah! why does rockbox need the folder to be '.rockbox' and not 'rockbox' ? 03.35.51 # shrimants: thanks for noticing!...and now back to our regularly scheduled rockbox talk and silence 03.36.05 # Terinjokes: it is a system thing 03.36.13 # who system? 03.38.21 # god what a boring chat room 03.38.32 # o well, at least its really helpful 03.38.55 # is there anyway of changing it? 03.39.05 # the boringness? 03.39.07 # shrimants: well, this sint a social channel 03.39.11 # oh ok 03.39.15 # yeah that woyuld explain it 03.39.48 # ok then, i got all my current questions answered 03.39.52 # thanx, all 03.39.54 # later 03.39.57 Part shrimants 03.39.57 # * Terinjokes invites shrimants to other non-social channels like #wikinews 03.40.34 # does doom work with freedom? 03.40.39 # and where's iBoy? 03.40.52 # this isnt ipl 03.40.57 # we have rockboy 03.41.10 # both questions can be answered in the wiki 03.41.27 # under PluginDoom and PluginRockboy respectively 03.41.48 # still no nano... 03.42.19 # nano doesnt support rockboy as you would see in the wiki page 03.42.45 # i know...i've seen that page many times 03.44.31 # then why ask? ;) 03.44.49 # maybe a top secert beta? 03.45.16 # this is open source though... 03.45.46 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@66-90-180-190.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 03.45.52 # oh...forgot... 03.49.17 Quit midgey34 () 03.52.59 # grr...doom froze up on me 03.53.13 Part Terinjokes 03.59.57 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-7-240.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 04.13.11 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-250-39-195.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 04.20.02 Join dubstyle [0] (i=dubstyle@c-68-37-39-132.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 04.20.09 # anyone awake? 04.20.58 # me 04.21.42 # rockboy doesnt work very well for me on ipod video 04.22.17 # sup guys, i got a quick question about compiling if anyone has a min 04.22.34 # im trying to "make zip" and im getting find: apps: no such file or directory 04.23.01 # odd.. were there errors on compile? 04.23.46 # nope, i had one but managed to fix it 04.23.54 # what was the prob? 04.24.06 # "the compiler you must use (m68k-elf-gcc) is not in your path" 04.24.13 # ah 04.24.41 # i managed to edit the bash.bashrc file to add that line about the path 04.24.49 # that seems to let it complile without errors 04.25.28 # yeah 04.25.35 # it just didn't know where to find the compiler 04.26.23 # any clue about that other error "apps: no such file or dir" 04.26.41 # im bummed, there was a post on misticriver.net with the exact problem im having, the guy fixed it himself tho and never said how 04.27.41 Join dantheman [0] (n=danielma@134.178.20.94) 04.27.57 # hmm ... stupid question.. but are you doing that in your build directory? 04.28.05 # i am 04.28.06 Quit dantheman (Remote closed the connection) 04.28.07 # ahhh 04.28.08 # is that it? 04.28.30 # well probably not... because you should have apps in the same dir that you type that command 04.29.12 # i see 04.29.30 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.45 # you did make first right? 04.29.50 # yes 04.30.05 # ok.. i'm just eliminating the obvious 04.30.17 # because i don't know much about the non obvious :) 04.30.23 # i did my make in /rockbox daily/build 04.30.39 # ok.. that should be correct 04.31.03 # the only thing in that dir is makefile and autoconf.h 04.31.20 # hmm... 04.32.29 # i think i usually make a dir in tools 04.32.41 # like /rockbox daily/tools/build 04.32.43 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 04.32.49 # then run ../configure from the build dir 04.33.10 # but i donk't know if that makes a difference 04.33.44 # when you run configure from within the tools dir, do u run ../tools/configure or just ../configure 04.33.58 # and um... in the dir where you have autoconf.h and the makefile 04.33.59 # run make 04.34.04 # not make zip 04.34.42 # it just told me all my files are up to date 04.35.04 # hmm 04.35.07 # that's odd.. because it should put a ton of files in that dir 04.35.12 # nevermind, now its doing a lot more 04.35.20 # ok 04.35.41 # after the make do an ls 04.35.45 # and see if you have a bunch of files 04.36.32 Join dantheman [0] (n=danielma@134.178.20.94) 04.36.35 # what player do you use? 04.36.39 # hi 04.36.46 # i have an x5l and an h140 04.36.55 # and a gigabeat.. but that's not developed yet 04.36.58 # ah tru, im using a h340 04.37.48 # yeah... those look nice.. people seem to like them 04.37.48 # ok, it made "apps" "bitmaps" "firmware" dir, and then several files 04.37.56 # ok.. now try the make zip 04.37.58 # or make fullzip 04.38.01 # depending 04.39.31 # yeah, im trying to compile simple build thats updated with the CVS and is patched to use all the new .wps's 04.39.46 # nice 04.39.58 # yeah.. i patch mine to do the click insert and left to wps 04.40.02 # i like both of those 04.40.13 # ok it made an rockbox.zip but it gave me this message 04.40.31 # zip warning:name not matched: rockbox.iriver 04.40.36 Quit dantheman (Remote closed the connection) 04.40.41 # zip error:nothing to do! (rockbox.xip) 04.40.44 # do you have a rockbox.iriver in the same folder? 04.40.49 # no 04.40.56 # wierd 04.41.09 # damn, so close 04.41.09 # did id prompt you for which platform you wanted to build the device on? 04.41.13 # yes 04.41.25 # hmm... unzip the file 04.41.26 # when i ran ../rools/configure 04.41.30 Quit menosm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.41.39 # see if it makes rockbox.iriver 04.42.09 # nah, its just the rockbox dir that seems to be compiled 04.42.26 # hmm... do you have rockbox.iriver on your player? 04.42.30 # yes 04.42.35 # think that would work? 04.42.39 # i think it would 04.42.45 # what i would do is this 04.43.03 # put all the rockbox files from your player in a folder on the player for backup 04.43.07 # then put your new build on there 04.43.12 # see what happens 04.43.23 # ok 04.43.28 # if it doesn't work just move stuff back 04.43.42 # check the build date on the splash screen 04.43.48 # there used to be a faq about dymaic playlists and the fact rockbox is a filesystem player 04.43.52 # just to make sure that you updated 04.43.53 # cann't seem to find it anywhere 04.44.05 # has the CVS made much improvements since auguest 1st? 04.44.21 # dubstyle: i'd say yes 04.44.41 # esp for my target... dunno what's been done for the 340.. that's been pretty stable for a while 04.45.00 # the whole reason im doing this is cus the build thats already up on misticriver that i use hasnt been updated in 2 months 04.45.03 # lol 04.45.10 # ah 04.45.34 # yeah.. i've gone like a whole 2 weeks without updating.. lol 04.45.43 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.46.02 # click insert was huge for me 04.47.23 # what is that? 04.47.39 # i havent been checking up on the updates much the last few months 04.48.07 # well.. you can set insert as the default action in the file browser 04.48.18 # so it will add selected track next in the playlist 04.48.31 # without erasing your playlist and queuing current dir 04.48.43 # its not in by default.. you have to patch 04.48.57 # lol 04.49.03 # the devs like the default action.. so i doubt it will be included 04.49.07 # rockbox booted up but is givign me a million erros 04.49.11 # lol 04.49.19 # codecs are all off 04.49.42 # did you do make zip or make fullzip? 04.49.48 # make zip 04.49.50 # ill try the other 04.49.56 # yeah.. 04.50.03 # dunno if it'll help.. but worth a shot 04.50.23 # do u run linux or windows? 04.50.41 # yep :) 04.50.47 # linux at home 04.50.48 # haha 04.50.50 # windows when forced 04.50.58 # like at work 04.51.19 # i installed cygwin and all that shit, then i rememberd i have a suse build on this comp 04.51.20 # haha 04.51.28 # ha ha ha 04.51.33 # the thought of installing all those dependancies gives me a headache tho 04.51.35 # much nicer 04.51.38 # yeah 04.52.16 # damn, same studd, name not matched 04.52.24 # hmm 04.52.37 # nuke that dir.. and try doing it again 04.52.48 # if that doesn't do it.. i'm not sure what's up 04.53.21 # damn.. knock at the door.. bbl 04.53.32 # thanks man 05.00.18 # do you think any patches that im using could be causing these errors? 05.00.45 Quit ptw419 () 05.02.07 # damn, im almost postive thats teh problem now 05.02.28 # there was an error in the make, looks like its from the album art patch 05.04.30 Join dantheman [0] (n=danielma@134.178.20.94) 05.04.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.03 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 05.12.19 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17082.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.13.52 # hi lynx 05.19.22 Join dubstyle311 [0] (i=dubstyle@c-68-37-106-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 05.20.52 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.27.08 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 05.33.10 Quit [g2] ("Leaving") 05.36.35 Quit dubstyle (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.49.21 Join shrimants [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-221-70-244.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) 05.49.28 # hey guys 05.49.37 # im back with another question 05.49.53 # (instead of idle conversation) 05.50.43 # is there an autosync utility or file for rockbox? i know that i used to have one that was based off of an autorun.inf file or something 05.50.59 # but i have no idea what i did with it or what it was called 05.52.06 # nvm found it 05.52.08 Quit shrimants (Client Quit) 05.54.34 Quit Ribs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.59.10 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-4-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 06.29.06 Quit webguest13 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.33.39 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 06.33.45 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.02.59 Quit ScoTTie () 07.04.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.05.26 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 07.06.26 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.07.09 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 07.07.19 Quit jba (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.08.55 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.11.13 Quit perpleXa ("Leaving") 07.12.00 Quit ScoTTie () 07.14.39 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 07.14.51 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.20.52 Join webguest23 [0] (i=47cdc369@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-90090e14b33d2996) 07.21.11 # can someone help me with rockdoom ? 07.21.30 # im trying to get it to work 07.22.02 # it runs but i cant seem to get any buttons configured 07.30.23 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 07.32.06 # whats the point of games? 07.32.08 # i dont get it 07.34.45 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 07.36.02 # dubstyle311: me neither...bubbles is the only one that works ok 07.36.42 # cant even really strafe 07.37.53 # ipods dont have enough buttons for rockboy and doom 07.40.06 Quit dantheman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.49.23 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 07.50.15 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 07.50.59 # I use m ipod for music 07.51.06 # I have a playstation 9 for games. 07.51.17 # it only costs 9,000 dollars 07.54.40 # snt it just cool, oh yes it is 07.55.07 # i remember doom port was a april fools joke once on rockbox list :) 08.03.26 Quit ScoTTie () 08.05.54 Part RoC_MM ("Leaving") 08.11.20 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.08 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.17.22 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 08.30.06 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 08.53.32 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.53.32 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 08.56.42 # jhMikeS: nice work on the recorder setings :) 08.57.11 # I havnt noticed any slowness in the menus... but ill keep an eye on it 09.01.27 Part LinusN 09.01.43 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.03.50 # JdGordon: thanks 09.03.52 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549653B9.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.04.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.04.56 # now I have to make the sound_ functions work for settings with any number of parameters but for now just 1 and 2 09.07.17 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit) 09.09.27 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.52 # JdGordon: still need the right events sent :) I have some thoughts on what's needed there. Maybe a couple name changes and option lists should be able to hide items as well (recording source, FM Radio) while returning the index in the full list. 09.11.07 # :) 09.11.19 # you didnt add any more files did you? 09.11.31 # It could save a lot of menu code in those functions. 09.11.42 # JdGordon: None of my own 09.11.57 # Did I miss another? 09.12.21 # no, just making sure my script to make the patch will work corectly still 09.12.53 # What I put up there is just a diff from CVS at the time 09.13.03 # k 09.13.39 # It applied and compiled I hope (it should) 09.13.52 # yup, all god 09.13.54 # good 09.14.52 # shold i bother redoing the menu code so a proper actio is sent the firs time an item is enetered and also when exited? 09.16.06 # I think entry and exit should be for both entry/exit of a submenu and entry/exit of setting itself 09.21.19 # ok, all items will get REQUEST_MENUITEM before bein displayed, then ENTER_MENUITEM the first time it is enetred, and EXIT_MENUITEM on exit 09.21.30 # bit more logical now 09.21.32 # Shouln't entry really be any different behavior if the menu item is another menu or a setting. And a query about each item should be sent the same way if it's an items in an option list or the items in the menuitem (ok each item in the parent). 09.21.43 # Should rather 09.22.00 # everything is handled the same way 09.22.05 # ah 09.22.21 # the difference is the REQUEST_ is only sent to subitems of the menu about t be enered 09.22.29 # entered* 09.23.44 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 09.23.45 # what about querying items in a list of options like whether FM Radio should be in the list of sources? That must be dynamic. 09.25.22 # yeah, there shhuoldnt be a problem with that... 09.26.42 # But option list items don't have pointers. How do I know the option value being queried about like AUDIO_SRC_FMRAIO? 09.28.21 # oh, ok, i was confused.. you need dymanic setting lists... thats can be done in a similar way, because there is a helper funcito to put together a optoin list for the settings, so it can be extended to have a calback to figure out which need to be shown and which to skip 09.28.37 # CB might need two parameters, if the item is a menu item, 2nd param ignored otherwise the numeric id 09.28.58 Quit robfitz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.29.17 # maybe, lemme fix the menu stuff first, then we cn figure this out 09.29.19 Join robfitz [0] (n=robfitz@213-202-144-131.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 09.31.01 # All menus are submenus. A submenu consists of submenus and settings. :P 09.31.18 Join kwinchee [0] (i=dcfd801e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 09.31.20 # that's just the way I think about it 09.31.39 # thats how its supposed to work 09.32.35 Join webguest37 [0] (i=5499760c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 09.32.40 # grrr.. back in a bit 09.33.30 # is there something wrong with my browser that i dont see several targets in the CVS downloads page 09.33.43 # Hello 09.34.03 # can someone help me out 09.34.12 # with an Iriver H340 09.34.17 # just pose the question 09.35.45 # Bagder morning 09.36.00 # webguest37: a few are missing here also 09.36.05 # obviously something failed 09.36.10 # nope 09.36.12 # clean table 09.36.24 # well, I bet something failed 09.36.27 # ah then its not my browser, thanks 09.37.19 # I have a h340 that has corrupt firmware and i need to reflash it execpt the player its self dose not pick up the harddrive 09.37.32 # but i can acsess the hdd in usb 09.37.49 # can i reflash the firmware from a serial cable 09.38.02 # replace the firmware files on your player and try to reflash 09.38.46 # are you running rockbox or original firmware 09.39.15 # yo guys, has the cvs been improved a lot since the beginning of augest? 09.39.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/biew/Main/MajorChanges 09.39.35 # eh 09.39.37 # 404 09.39.38 # when im in the players OS it will not find thee hard drive and just tells me i have oooo files so i cant reflash the player that way 09.39.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 09.40.12 # thanks 09.41.01 # kwinchee, if you can make a backup of your files do so, then try and load ALL firmware files to your player, then try to reflash your player 09.42.30 # kwinchee, if it still cant read the files, the reformat the hard drive, use the original OS's format option if you can, if not then try swissknife, ensure that you format to FAT32 09.43.02 # webguest37: he just said he can't access the disk from OF 09.43.20 # just covering all the bases 09.44.02 # webguest37: is the disk ok? when accessed over USB, can you chkdsk it? 09.44.05 # Not sure if I should revert the grayscale intensity change I did and do a more thorough treatment to make it user adjustable. It works well for some and not others and too dark is worse than too light. 09.44.40 # the disk over usb is 100% i have been using it as a portable hdd 09.44.54 # what is the best chkdsk to use 09.45.26 Part webguest37 09.45.37 # no idea, I usualy stick with what M$ offers 09.46.00 # eww 09.46.07 # is ther a way to directley flash it witha serial cabl 09.46.08 Join matsl__ [0] (n=matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 09.46.13 # no 09.47.29 # You could by using a BDM wiggler as LinusN used that to develop/test the bootloader (iirc) 09.48.05 Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 09.48.08 # ??? how so 09.49.25 # you'd need to solder a connector to the board and also need extra hardware - don't know the details there 09.49.52 # dose ne 1 09.50.24 # LinusN knows 09.53.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments#iRiver 09.54.04 # theses r the pinnous but wat to do with them 09.54.28 # more like this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBDM 09.55.51 # kwinchee: You can't flash with a serial cable, it needs much more "advanced" hardware 09.55.56 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 09.57.00 # kwinchee: it would cost you $199 so I'd forget about that route... 09.59.42 Quit kwinchee ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.00.14 Join kwinchee2 [0] (i=dcfd801e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ddf606cd8d831b9d) 10.00.29 # so what can i do 10.00.45 # could i buy a new mother board 10.00.58 Quit Ribs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.01.31 # did you check misticriver? There are lots of reports about 0000 files, maybe some have a clue? 10.01.41 # also, does rockbox work? 10.01.50 # no 10.02.05 # get an error? 10.02.19 # i took it off rite befour it happened to play with the new firmware 10.02.52 # but the new firmware worked for a few days 10.02.58 # take it off? 10.03.12 # Do you still have the Rockbox bootloader installed? 10.03.28 # yer 10.04.05 # sry i put it back on like 4 days ago the new firm ware go boring so i went back th 1.29k 10.04.24 # but it eorked up untill yester day 10.04.48 # flash doesn't normally corrupt itself just like that 10.05.00 # try resetting settings in iriver 10.05.52 # or reset iriver settings from within rockbox, I can give you an EEPROM settings file 10.06.29 # HOW ??? i wont rede the hdd so it cant bootinto rockbox 10.06.56 Quit Ribs2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.07.00 # so you say you can access the disk over USB but rockbox won't load? 10.07.02 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.43.120) 10.09.29 # ok if it is pluged into usb and i lode up the player into iriver firm it dosenot see the hdd and i get 0000 files but if i view the hdd in my computer in can see the files 10.10.05 # so its just a portable hdd now 10.12.21 # So it's simply a problem with the iriver firmware? 10.12.55 # Can you use Rockbox instead? 10.13.15 # no 10.13.20 # Why not? 10.13.34 # it gives me an error 10.13.51 # When, and which error? 10.16.06 # it wont rede the files on thee hdd and dose nothing 10.16.20 # Does nothing? 10.16.28 # kwinchee2: from searching the misticriver forum, I think you should really check the disk. attach it to usb, in windows right-click the drive -> properties -> tools -> Check Now 10.18.24 # it completes with no errors 10.20.00 # this somehow doesn't make sense at all. Did you reformat it? It should be FAT32 10.20.25 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-092-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.21.26 # i no it is fat32 10.22.02 Join vx [0] (i=c2c7fca1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 10.22.42 # kwinchee2: when diskchecking, did you let it check for bad clusters? 10.22.55 # yes 10.26.45 # can you remember what error rockbox gave? 10.30.03 # no 10.30.05 # sry 10.30.41 # Can you try putting Rockbox back on? 10.30.43 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 10.30.58 # If you still have the bootloader installed, it should just be a matter of unzipping the latest build 10.33.24 Join bluebrother [0] (i=PEV7o8nb@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.37.19 # im not sure i have thee bootloder on it i may have flaashed to clean 1.29k 10.38.53 # if you connect usb while it is powered off, what screen do you get? 10.39.23 # if it says 'bootloader usb mode' you got the rockbox bootloader on 10.40.13 # Anyway, can't you flash again? 10.40.49 # rasher: he just said he can't access the disk from OF 10.41.04 # It might still be able to read the firmware file 10.41.07 # * petur hears strange echoes :p 10.41.07 # Possibly 10.41.08 # nothing 10.41.21 # nothing what? 10.41.31 # it stays back then after a few min will start charging in iriver firm 10.41.48 # so no rockbox bootloader 10.41.55 # still in warranty? 10.42.51 # no its 2years old 10.43.28 # LinusN: ping... 10.45.52 # does anyone think the settings patch is ready for serious final testing before commit? the only thing off the top off my head which doesnt work as cvs is no-volatile settings and the h300 doesnt use them so i cant tes the code I've done for it... 10.46.33 # what can i do i love my h340 so much 10.46.47 # kwinchee2: Have you tried flashing a firmware? 10.47.13 # yes nothing happens 10.47.23 # * petur is convinced the flash has nothing to do with the issue 10.47.40 # i go to up firm and selectit and it just goes back to the menue 10.48.09 # reset settings to default? 10.48.24 # it has to because i can acsee all the files over my computer just not through the player 10.48.30 # amiconn: Were you suggesting I revert those changes for the gray levels yesterday? I have no problem doing that and can come up with a better solution. 10.48.44 # done it like 50 times nothing happens 10.49.23 # kwinchee2: I'd try to get it repaired somewhere... 10.49.46 # i dont have ne money 10.50.13 # im thinking of selling the hdd from it and buying a h10 10.51.20 # i love the 340 such beautiful sound thay actualy can offer a match to my senhiser audiophiles 10.55.16 # ?? 10.56.38 # * scorche wonders how a DAP can pose a decent "match" to headphones... 10.56.44 # sorry, not much we can do I'm affraid 10.59.11 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.59.30 Join leftright [0] (n=leftrigh@p5499760C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.59.48 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-228-226.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 11.03.12 Quit leftright (Client Quit) 11.04.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.08.22 # scorche: I read somewhere that one of the sony DAPs has a very good DAC+amp. Also the Kendwoods supposedly sound very good. 11.13.10 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 11.16.23 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 11.17.58 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.23.23 Quit Wett (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.27.44 # amiconn: pong 11.28.10 # pang.... 11.29.32 # kaching! 11.29.38 # poff! 11.30.16 # See, this is why the "ping" method is a bad idea. Now if amiconn had said something, LinusN could have answered already 11.30.17 # Packet loss: 67%, average round trip: 2650 seconds 11.30.37 # hahaha 11.31.13 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host76-169-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.31.34 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.32.11 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-153-230.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 11.32.16 Part MadDog011 11.32.38 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 11.33.43 # more like 2656 to be exact 11.34.03 # * petur stops wasting time and gets back to work 11.35.48 # amiconn: ok, I'll ask yet again :) do you think it wise for me to revert the gray level change? 11.36.09 # I'm undecided 11.36.21 # ok, just give word 11.36.51 # The old greyscale mapping was a little too bright. The new one is clearly too dark,on my H140 11.37.29 # I figure until something better is done, too light is better than too dark when you have black text 11.39.58 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.42.52 # it was about time that the percent vs dB discussion came to life again, i've missed it :-) 11.43.19 # :) 11.45.05 # LinusN, Bagder: What needs to be done to enable automatic voice building? Anything I can help with? 11.45.27 # rasher: how ready are the scripts? 11.46.08 # LinusN: They're included in the build system right now. Just run configure, select voice, make and you should have a voice file 11.46.31 # (assuming nothing went wrong) 11.46.52 Join frogfoot [0] (i=5499760c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 11.46.57 # any issues with installing the tts system, for example festival? 11.47.06 # % vs. semitones: semitones 11.47.30 # jhMikeS: :-) 11.47.41 # any news on when the H140 builds will be available ? 11.48.07 # rasher: about the languages.. If you build a esperanto voice with "speak -v eo" and some strings are missing it will fall back to english and they will sound wrong of course. 11.48.11 # LinusN: Installing festival or flite should Just Work in Debian. The only problem is that you need lame as well 11.48.38 # ok 11.48.40 # markun: Yeah, I'm a bit unsure about what to do with languages.. 11.48.54 # English is the only language that works out of the box right now 11.49.18 # * frogfoot looks at the webmasters 11.49.56 # * LinusN looks away 11.50.09 # hehe 11.50.19 # frogfoot: what are you talking about? 11.50.33 # markun: Do you think that the configure script should autodetect which options are needed for the TTS or something? 11.50.51 # LinusN: lookie here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml 11.50.55 # the h140 targets are missing from the cvs download page 11.51.12 # rasher: I don't know how it should be done 11.51.21 # frogfoot: h120 and h140 are identical 11.51.35 # h120 is missing as well 11.51.47 # true, but archos, and some apple targets are missing a swell 11.51.54 # and several archosses 11.52.10 # in the daily build? 11.52.22 # no cvs 11.52.30 # markun: Yeah, me neither, really. The only automatic way would be to have a list of which options are needed for the various TTS supported I guess 11.52.41 # (for each language supported) 11.53.08 # LinusN: Slasheris new server wasn't allowing the master build server to scp the results back - he's changed the firewall since 11.53.22 # rasher: and is it possible to have a different TTS for the selected language and english fallback strings? 11.53.32 # obo: oh 11.53.42 Join daurnimator [0] (n=fake@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 11.54.08 # markun: I think that'll be problematic. I'm not sure genlang tells us that it's falling back on defaults. But it'd be nice if that was possible for sure. I'll put it on my todo list 11.54.15 # defaults=english 11.55.27 # * jhMikeS would find it helpful to target/ a few of the audio_* functions...just a few 11.55.46 # obo: so they should be back as soon as someone commits something? 11.55.52 # AFAIK 11.55.56 # allright 11.56.36 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 11.56.40 # ah the big fix cometh 11.57.10 # the daily build is still there is you can settle for that 11.57.17 # s/is/if/ 11.57.43 # *nods* 11.57.43 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 11.57.50 # Or someone could just commit something 11.58.30 # * frogfoot like his dailies, helps him stay regular 11.59.10 # Hrm, turns out there is a bug with voice building 11.59.14 # thanks 11.59.17 Part frogfoot 12.01.59 # Fixed.. 12.03.10 # Let's see if the builds work now 12.04.05 # it's thanksgiving here in the states today so I guess it's the rare occasion where I get really trashed :) 12.09.45 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 12.09.45 Quit thegeek (Remote closed the connection) 12.10.33 # linuxstb: Don't suppose you had your FAT disk label disappear a second time, or any other clues on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5217 ? 12.10.53 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.11.24 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.18.15 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.18.40 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.23.07 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (i=hihi@75-90.wlan.rz.uni-potsdam.de) 12.36.15 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 12.39.47 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.46.07 # same problem with the builds again :( 12.47.05 # hmm, builds still missing? 12.47.25 # yup - from xen 12.47.44 # how did you check that? 12.48.21 # going through the cvs builds page - checking the build log for the targets against the missing builds at the bottom of the page 12.49.25 # also, the buildmaster log has entries like: "Warning: couldn't get zip from rbclient@xen.ihme.org/build-fmrecorder" 12.49.38 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.49.43 # oh! 12.49.48 # now i know 12.50.01 # zip package was not installed, argh.. fixed now =) 12.51.25 # hehe 12.52.34 Quit matsl__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.59.13 # obo! 12.59.16 # I desire to flame you :D 12.59.33 # * obo is now worried 13.00.09 # rockscrobbler always causes me slight issues in submittance. either it submits things I did not listen to, or it does not submit things I did listen to,.. and what it always does is somehow breaking submittal of tracks then actually played on my pc, for like 20 minutes 13.00.31 # which gets me the good old 13.00.31 # Some tracks you submitted have not been added to your profile for the following reason: 13.00.35 # Spam protection triggered: You submitted a track dated earlier than your last submission. 13.00.42 # well 13.00.45 # the last.fm patch, I guess 13.01.00 # rockscrobbler the perl cutie isn't really doing much 13.01.07 # it just.. submits what the log tells it to 13.01.22 # but I, lazy bum, like to refer to the whole process as rockscrobbling. 13.02.28 # okay... where to begin... I guess checking the .scrobbler.log file 13.03.08 # I think the scrobbler.log nowadays actually contains files I just started to play in the moment I shut down the X5 or so 13.03.43 # Is that missing tracks? Is the S/L status being set correctly? 13.03.58 # the S/L status is, I assume, being set wrongly for some tracks 13.04.09 # okay... the second version of the patch here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6213 13.04.24 # will help with the S/L status for the last track 13.04.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.04.57 # so that was a known issue? 13.05.02 Quit vx ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.05.09 # only for the last track... 13.05.20 # there shouldn't be any problems with S/L status for other tracks. 13.05.43 # is that in any binary builds? 13.05.52 # The other known issue is missing first tracks when resuming, or from new playlists 13.05.58 # nope, just as a patch 13.06.23 # I'm going to need the help of a playback guru to fix the first track problem. 13.11.40 # pondlife: No idea how to repro the missing disklabel. Knowing that would give the solution too I think. I've once checked the fat code but only found another unrelated bug. I actually started looking at that code again yesterday but real life aborted it as usual. 13.11.57 # mh, single-click enqueue sounds nice. 13.15.42 # petur: Those mystery 3.0-bugs bug me. 13.16.05 # We know about the rewind at track end and bootloader bugs, but not the other 2. 13.17.09 # I've got a commecial fat implementation at home to verify our code against, but the past two weeks have been very busy :/ 13.17.55 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@ppp98-163.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 13.18.16 # It could be that it has been fixed, or it's actually a bug in something else - Windows/iTunes...? 13.18.38 # pondlife: any hints on where to look for this problem? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5495#comment11698 13.19.43 # obo: Not really, I'd see if I could repro it in the simulator I think, then put extra logfs in the track buffer/unbuffer code. 13.19.56 # This is the unbuffer callback, right? 13.20.18 # one question: is the audio code supposed to send a trackchange event when starting a track? 13.20.29 # no, it's the track_changed callback 13.20.48 # heh 13.20.57 # obo: I just noticed I did not set my X5 to wintar time :D 13.21.01 # I'm amazed how resume on startup is so problematic - it should just be the same as a simulated press of the play button once we've booted, but it seems to be more complicated. 13.21.17 # i.e. it's a UI thing, not a playback thing 13.21.18 # maybe I should just keep it constant and force time offset in perl 13.22.19 # LinusN: I have no idea - could I get away with changing the way that callback works, since the scrobbler code is currently the only thing that uses it? 13.22.43 # The buffering code in playback is busted at the moment if the track buffer wraps. Either play an album with lots of short/mono/low bitrate tracks, or make a build with MAX_TRACK set to 3 or 4. Things start to go very screwy. 13.23.07 # we should first define what the track_changed event is supposed to mean 13.23.09 # e.g. wrong ID3 info displayed, buffering runs forever (playback continues, hard disk never stops) 13.23.21 # pondlife: wonderful 13.24.09 # Like I said, all developers should run with #define MAX_TRACK 4 and use the device :( 13.24.31 # It's probably unrelated to the callback bugs, but maybe .... 13.24.54 # One day I'll have time to get back in there, but that day is not today. 13.25.41 # again: is the playback code supposed to call the calback when starting the first track, or only when changing track? 13.27.36 # that callback was originally meant to be called when track is changed, but i am not sure how it works now 13.28.49 # but track_buffer callback should be called always when new tracks are loaded to the buffer 13.30.26 # so i guess the code works as intended, but we might have to change it to accomodate the scrobbler functionality 13.31.06 # or add a new callback/function just for first tracks? 13.32.23 # well, it should be quite simple to redefine the meaning of the callback 13.32.30 # * obo could do with a archos so he can see if those act in the same way 13.32.54 # track_start or something 13.33.30 # the transition from no track to first track could be considered a track change as well 13.33.31 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493175B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.34.01 # what else is the track_changed bool in playback.c tied into? 13.34.01 # case 12: s = "Additional Driver, Charge"; break; 13.35.28 # obo: it's used only for updating the wps 13.36.05 # completely separate from the callback? 13.36.29 # well, callback should set the flag to true 13.36.29 # yes 13.37.38 # the callback is used by the runtime database 13.37.58 # which isn't compiled anymore? (the one from database.c) 13.38.05 # hmm, does that mean that you can't use the runtime db and scrobble at the same time? 13.38.09 # runtime db uses only buffer and unbuffer event callbacks 13.38.49 # audio_set_track_changed_event(&rundb_track_change); 13.39.04 # hmm, that is obsolote then 13.39.06 # database.c isn't in apps/SOURCES 13.39.15 # true 13.39.31 # always that durn playback.c 13.39.40 # new runtime db is in tagtree.c 13.39.53 # i won't mind adding a callback call when starting playback too 13.44.32 Part robfitz 13.47.00 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 13.53.52 # is he for real? :-) 13.53.58 # price less 13.54.20 # Genre9mp3: time for you to update GoldenQuotes 13.54.32 # "I got rockbox because i expect more out of them, and i have a right to expect more" 13.54.36 # "i have a right to expect more" 13.54.41 # :-) 13.54.41 # "Now make me proud and make these updates i ask for done ASAP" << how about this? 13.54.51 # both, I should think :) 13.54.58 # There are tons of golden quotes in there! 13.55.13 # "i have a right to expect more" 13.55.29 # * Bagder sends out his team of hit-men 13.55.36 # haha 13.55.49 # "include pacman rom with release" 13.55.54 # LOL 13.56.35 # LinusN: he refuses to use rockbox if we don't add radio support!! http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=48632 13.56.42 # ohoh... our master is dissapointed... "...by tommorow or even this weekend would be great, but im sick of lollydolling around on this site, waiting for a good release." 13.56.49 # "Now make me proud and make these updates i ask for done ASAP, by tommorow or even this weekend would be great,..." 13.57.01 # he _refuses_ to use Rockbox? Great :) 13.57.16 # markun: I think we must please this man at once. We can't risk losing him! 13.57.30 # he is a Quote Goldmine! ;) 13.57.48 # Genre9mp3: someone should tell him that ;-) 13.57.54 # "Are you guys just haters against Iriver software that you sacrifice features just to have something that looks a little different and in my opinion worse on your machine." 13.58.10 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.58.12 # markun: No way he said that. 13.58.18 # I refuse to believe it. 13.58.26 # :) 13.58.34 # * bluebrother goes looking if there is something like the "Merkbefreiung" in english 13.58.49 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 14.00.00 # So anything happening on the wma front? 14.00.27 # It keeps getting better "...why release something so garbadge." 14.00.33 # "...and i have a right to expect more..." ?!?!?!?! 14.00.54 # like it's an entitlement :\ 14.01.02 # "Get a brain and stop saying people are whining when they are simply asking where certain features are from the real product." 14.01.11 # maybe we should put a "these are no releases!" on the daily page. Big red blinking letters ... 14.01.22 # Nah, don't bother 14.01.22 # just for guys like him 14.01.25 # Most people get it. 14.01.30 # hehe, indeed. 14.01.59 # No reason to ugly up the pages and add a disconcerting disclaimer just for the occasional dork. 14.02.04 # bluebrother: he has an answer for that too.. "Wait for the real release, this release or "Up dating product" as the makers like to say cause their too good for it to be called just a release like other real makers make of it." 14.02.05 # shops at Kroger too, maybe I'll see 'im :) 14.02.10 # GoldenQuotes updated... 14.02.20 # I wasn't too serious about that red letters ;-) 14.03.42 # too bad, there doesn't seem to be an english equivalent to a Merkbefreiung 14.03.49 # Genre9mp3: what, you quoted him only 2 times? :) 14.04.10 # markun: feel free to add more! :) 14.04.38 # nah, he doesn't deserve it 14.04.53 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.05.11 # bluebrother: What does it mean? I see Merk, and befreiung, but I cannot make any sense of it. 14.05.22 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (i=hihi@75-11.wlan.rz.uni-potsdam.de) 14.06.29 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 14.06.55 # it's a thing from the german usenet. You get a release ("Befreiung") from noticing ("merken") anything for a specified time 14.07.53 # it's designed like those official authorithy letters 14.08.02 # rasher: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkbefreiung 14.08.19 # Ah, I was reading Merk as in mark 14.09.58 # "A Merkbefreiung is a fictive document that releases the recepient from the usually assumed duty to notice something or remember earlier parts of the discussion 14.13.24 Quit rconan ("Leaving") 14.13.28 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 14.13.34 Quit rconan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.14.03 Join webguest47 [0] (i=c1335ac7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 14.14.10 # hello 14.14.29 # dont manage to build for sansa 14.15.02 # could someone provide me the zip build ? 14.22.06 # webguest47: I could try to buils it, but is rockbox even working on the sansa yet? 14.23.36 Join Febs [0] (n=shortcho@rockbox/administrator/Febs) 14.24.08 # just to quote dan_a about the Sansa port status 14.24.12 # markun: yes, it works partially 14.24.16 # "you can build Rockbox and boot it, and there is a read/write driver for the disk. At the moment, there are many things missing so it is suitable for people able to help with development, but not for people just wanting to try it out." 14.24.39 # i dont want to try it by participate 14.24.51 # dan_a gave me a previaous build 14.25.09 # "but participate" 14.25.20 # webguest47: where do you get stuck when building rockbox? 14.26.13 # it gives errors about ")" with gnu-elf-arm 14.27.00 # with ubuntu, i added binary from gnuarm.org 14.27.46 # webguest47: try tools/rockboxdev.sh to compile your own compiler 14.27.47 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.28.13 # If you want to participate you need a working compiler anyway 14.34.34 # markun: Thanks, didnt test that 14.37.28 # markun: wow, too easy ! 14.38.28 # excuse me but : how to make PATH include ? 14.40.18 # 40mi late.. rofl at the MR post 14.44.32 # webguest47: it might be in ~/.bashrc 14.45.04 Join chaebi [0] (n=kaspar@206-218.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 14.45.52 # markun: big thanks 14.50.35 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 14.52.38 # There's still a ton of cvs builds missing, even after the rebuild due to rasher's commit 14.52.42 # Slasheri !! 14.53.10 # amiconn: he was missing zip - there hasn't been a commit since that was installed 14.53.30 # haha.. was it Slasheri's new comp stuffing everything up? 14.55.01 # yup 14.55.16 # * amiconn wonders why people don't test... 14.55.30 # 'make zip' should have thrown an error on this box 14.55.50 # on a side notice... could we make the daily/cvs build pages a bit prettier by using the svgs that we use in the manuals? 14.57.18 # well... maybe jpgs made out of the svgs 15.00.38 Quit webguest47 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.03.44 # That'd probably look nicer 15.04.08 # Shame you can't reliably use transparent pngs 15.04.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.06.35 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.11.47 # rasher: You mean because of different browsers? 15.11.50 Join [g2] [0] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) 15.11.56 # (about the transparent pngs) 15.12.08 # Genre9mp3: More specifically, because of IE 15.12.23 # yes 15.12.56 # shame indeed 15.13.28 # a blue-ish background would do the trick 15.14.21 # actual IE can handle 1bit transparency in pngs in most cases 15.14.51 # I just would ignore it looking crap for users with broken browsers 15.14.52 # Yeah, but it's not easy to create 1-bit transparent pngs from vector sources 15.15.40 # I suppose the best option is to create an image with a rockbox-blue background 15.15.41 # hmm. Isn't it possible converting the vector graphic to png, and then convert that to 1bit alpha using ImageMagick? 15.16.32 # sounds likely 15.16.53 # Probably, but it's likely to look awful 15.17.08 # yeah 15.17.32 # Either go for alpha-transparent pngs and ignore IE, or render against a blue background 15.20.36 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.21.51 # you have to do transparent png differently on IE but it can work 15.22.30 # * bluebrother hates IE 15.22.59 # jhMikeS: That's a horrible hack at best 15.23.00 # especially because it is broken in that many ways 15.23.27 # you could use gif ;-) 15.23.41 # Well, everything gif can do, png can do (in IE as well) 15.23.59 # Not animation, obviuosly 15.24.27 # does transparency work that flawlessly with IE than with gif? 15.24.45 # haven't used gif for ages, but I mostly don't care about IE 15.25.04 # I don't think there are any important hiccups with 1-bit transparency 15.25.53 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF661D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.26.31 # Guess I was wrong. 15.27.31 # bbl 15.27.57 # rasher: did they improve the situation in ie7? i haven't checked. 15.28.32 # No idea 15.29.15 # And it looks like 1-bit is broken as well in many situations. Not quite sure what it means, but I've managed to create working 1-bit transparent pngs 15.29.30 # rasher: yup, just checked it 15.29.53 # http://entropymine.com/jason/testbed/pngtrans/ 15.31.20 # And here http://www.schaik.com/pngsuite/pngsuite_trn_png.html 15.31.52 Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.32.07 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p54984CCD.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.32.25 # they look ok here 15.32.26 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 15.32.55 # Not in ie6 15.33.14 # nope, it sucks in IE6 15.33.16 # And that's simple 1-bit transparency 15.33.44 # I wonder how it looks if you force the IE trick 15.33.54 # ie7 is fixed apparently 15.34.57 # anyone with a h300 here? 15.35.05 # yes 15.35.40 # petur what does your battery percentage show after a full charge? 15.36.05 # mine shows 91% after the semi-recent changes to power management. 15.36.06 # rasher: ie trick. the image filter works. i have a start page on my computer that uses it. 15.36.06 # sometimes 100%, sometimes a little less 15.36.36 # petur, what is the max voltage you get? 15.37.15 # n1s: haven't actually monitorred that and it's not full now (and no charger with me here) 15.37.57 # petur, ok just trying to figure out if my battery has aged that much or if the calibration is off. 15.38.30 # sorry, I don't look at it so closely... 15.38.57 # jhMikeS: Yeah, I was wondering how it'd look if applied to all of the pngs on the test-page. To see how complete *that* implementation is 15.40.11 # n1s: currently at 4.05V - 87% 15.40.52 # i could try it out but it does work with just a normal 24+8 bit image 15.44.24 # were you planning on using 64 bit RGBA? ;) 15.44.57 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.54.43 # IE still fails a bunch of tests, even when using the AlphaImageLoader hack. 15.55.55 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 16.02.11 # As long as it doesn't fail in the needed ways 16.03.13 Part LinusN 16.15.51 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 16.21.13 Part XavierGr 16.21.20 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp69-154.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.32.30 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496567D.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.33.01 Quit Rob222241 () 16.35.51 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17082.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.41.45 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 16.48.44 Quit jhMikeS (Connection reset by peer) 16.49.23 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 16.52.40 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Miranda@i3ED6E7C7.versanet.de) 16.54.23 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 16.55.29 Quit _FireFly_ (Client Quit) 16.58.19 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 17.00.24 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.04.44 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF661D.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.04.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.11.27 Quit chaebi (Remote closed the connection) 17.11.27 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.11.29 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2dfd9edcbd457299) 17.13.05 Join brainless [0] (i=c297e689@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 17.14.18 Quit petur (Client Quit) 17.14.22 Quit brainless (Client Quit) 17.18.15 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 17.21.16 Join chaebi [0] (n=kaspar@206-218.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 17.22.54 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 17.23.15 Join bluebrother [0] (i=zVdwcIkQ@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 17.27.06 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484C585.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.32.41 Join Wett [0] (n=Wett@d04m-89-83-96-218.d4.club-internet.fr) 17.32.42 # hi, I've got a problem. I' m trying to access the microphone of my x5 with rockbox. Recently, there was some recording functionality added to the plugin api. I tried to use it, but I hardly had any success. I just don't get any data. I wonder if there is anything special I should know? I wonder if you could help me? 17.34.20 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-076-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.43.41 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 17.49.35 # chaebi: mine works fine but the plugin api doesn't have any working audio gain control yet. should change real soon. 17.51.06 # chaebi: can pastbin an example of using the functions real quick. I just got to changing some things cause I wasn't quite happy with it and it was missing the gain control. 17.59.46 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 18.02.15 Join EnterNickGnelik [0] (i=keefejoh@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/session) 18.05.15 Quit chaebi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.10.03 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 18.15.27 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.22.30 # happy thanksgiving, if you're american :P 18.23.04 # and i am thankful for rockbox :) 18.26.34 # Nimdae: thanks. and same about rb 18.27.17 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@160.228.157.232) 18.28.34 Quit Wett (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.33.32 Quit Rincewind ("Bye") 18.39.24 Quit Febs () 18.40.35 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host58-212.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 18.40.48 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 18.41.01 # HI! 18.44.07 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 18.44.30 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.55.22 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 18.55.45 # Hi Dan! 18.55.55 # Hello 18.55.59 # How are you?? 18.56.22 # I'm well. Frustrated that I can't make the bootloader work properly! 18.56.47 # What is the problem? 18.57.29 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.43.120) 18.57.56 # Using the H10 bootloader as a start, I can boot the original firmware, but it doesn't work properly. Some bits hang if you plug the USB in, and it doesn't play music 19.03.09 # Gnelik: Have you seen the end of the CREDITS file? 19.03.48 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 19.04.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.05.02 # Yep 19.05.10 # Thanks %) 19.05.29 # But i difnt do to much 19.05.34 # *didnt 19.06.55 # dan_a: Any progress with other parts like buttons and so on? 19.06.56 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 19.07.58 # Gnelik: No. I figured out how to see if the scrollwheel is attached to the GPIO, though, so I might try that when I have some spare time 19.08.04 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 19.08.17 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEEEB3.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.09.21 # dan_a: I cant understand why i saw GPIO changing one time but can't reproduce it 19.10.19 # When scrooling the whell 19.16.00 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.17.41 Quit bluey- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.18.02 # dan_a:When you will finish the bootloader could we use dualboot? 19.19.20 # That's the whole point. I didn't want to have to change the firmware to copy a new .rockbox folder across, and then change again to test it 19.19.49 # Yep it's a problem 19.19.53 # :) 19.21.50 # Shouldn't that be possible without dual-boot, i.e. with a rockbox bootloader that just boots rockbox? 19.22.36 # amiconn: Not until we know how to use the USB. Recovery mode only writes .mi4 files to the special recovery partition 19.23.00 # eurgh 19.23.15 # I know 19.23.16 # Do the .mi4 files get flashed? 19.23.33 # They do. 19.23.44 # The ipod does at least have a full featured disk mode 19.23.55 # (apart from the slowness on nano and 5g) 19.24.44 # I think the H10 is similar to the iPod - you can boot into a UMS mode independent of the firmware 19.25.10 # Perhaps. I dunno whether the H10 has 2 modes 19.25.46 # The ipod has 2 disk modes, emergency disk mode in the apple bootloader and another one in the main firmware 19.26.14 # On the older ipods both modes seem to be identical in speed; on nano and 5g they are not 19.26.15 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.26.17 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.26.54 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-095-058.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.29.33 # Anyway, unless someone works out how to drive the USB, or I get a copy of "Understanding Disassembled Firmware For Dummies" for Christmas, I need to work out what's going wrong in the bootloader. 19.30.44 # I'm almost sure USB is implemented in software on the PP5024 the same way as on the other PP targets 19.31.00 # So in order to do our own USB, we actually need 2 things. 19.31.16 # (1) we need to know how the USB port hardware can be accessed 19.31.41 # (2) we need an USB stack (device side), implementing the mass storage class 19.33.11 # * amiconn prefers the archos and the coldfire-based targets with their dedicated usb-ata bridge 19.33.36 # god, yes 19.35.21 # Now if those two are achieved, and someone implements usb-sound, that'd be the moment where the ipod way gets interesting 19.35.33 # PP way, I guess. 19.35.57 # 2 of the coldfire targets also have usb host capability 19.36.22 # Can they act as slave as well? 19.36.52 # The H300 usbotg controller can act both as host and slave 19.37.05 Join Gnelik41 [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 19.37.27 # But there would be no point in acting as a slave, as it only achieves full speed, not high speed 19.37.27 # dan_a: I figured out how to see if USB is connected 19.37.42 # amiconn: You could act as a usb sound card 19.37.53 # The X5 usbotg controller docs aren't publicly available 19.37.57 # (I've seen requests for that on the tracker, if I'm reading things right) 19.38.12 # In conclusion: Many hardware manufacturers suck 19.38.37 # H300: Philips ISP1362 - docs available 19.38.47 # Gnelik41: It's one of the GPIO pins, isn't it? 19.39.02 # GPIO_B 19.39.08 # FF inserted 19.39.12 # EF out 19.39.20 # X5: ALi M5636 - secret docs 19.39.44 # I really wonder what on earth the point of keeping docs secret is. 19.40.08 # It seems childish. 19.40.34 Quit Rondom (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.41.01 # rasher: It gives people hacking the device a bigger sense of acheivement when something - anything - works 19.41.19 # ahaha 19.41.30 # PP keep their docs secret to make me happier 19.41.59 # :))) 19.42.02 # hahah 19.42.47 # Do they give Docs t ochip byers? Maybe we will buy one? 19.43.13 # :) 19.43.34 # I guess you'd have to buy 1000+ in order to get the docs 19.43.47 # Even then you'll have to sign an NDA 19.44.45 # dan_a: nice excuse for hiding your masochism :P 19.45.16 # hahhah 19.45.17 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.45.17 # The impression I get is that they give out a software development kit to the device makers, so the docs would just say "To use the USB port, call the function use_usb()"... which is no good to us. 19.45.39 # Genre9mp3: hehehe 19.45.55 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-076-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.46.09 # dan_a: but reversment of one libluary is esier that the whole firmware 19.46.13 # ??? 19.47.13 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 19.51.01 # Gnelik41: To people who can do reverse engineering, probably! 19.51.22 # dan_a but not for us 19.51.24 # %) 19.52.13 # To me, translating a book in a foreign language and translating a chapter of a book in a foreign language are equally as difficult! 19.52.28 # If that is indeed the case, it should be possible to spot common parts between ipod, h10 and sansa firmware 19.52.37 # These would be the parts that come with the sdk 19.52.43 # dan_a:Is there more than 16 GPIOS? 19.52.56 # In sansa 19.53.52 # dan_a: I think backlight is some of GPIOS too 19.53.55 # Gnelik41: Look in firmware/export/pp5020.h - those are the ones we know about so far. 19.54.47 Join habana [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.55.04 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-057-103-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.59.40 # dan_a: if i'l send different signals to GPIOS could it kill something? 19.59.50 # * dan_a does the happy dance of the right setting tweaked 20.00.30 # dan_a THUMB_UP 20.00.32 # hi all ! 20.00.32 # ! 20.01.07 # Gnelik41: Possibly... but I've not killed anything yet. If you send signals towards the GPIOs used in the LCD controller, using the pins that are enabled for output, you should be safe (I think!) 20.01.20 # i dont know yet why but CONGRAT dan_a ! 20.01.23 # I've got dual boot! 20.01.38 # dan_a:Give me the source %) 20.01.42 # To try 20.02.32 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.02.40 # For those who believe in oe God, please pray for a sucessful make compiler under linux, i NEED to see evolutions on my sansa. 20.02.44 # paste at pastebin 20.02.57 # I've got dual boot! clap clap :) 20.03.22 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 20.04.43 # tools/rockboxdev.sh is the best way to obtain gnu-arm on linux ? 20.04.55 # The best 20.05.02 # And the esyest 20.05.06 # Gnelik41: There's some unrelated changes in here too. http://pastebin.ca/256086 20.05.16 # l'etsa go ! 20.06.25 # thanks 20.06.36 # You need to make /.rockbox/OF.bin, using "mi4code decrypt -s OF.bin" and you need to make a normal build and put rockbox.e200 in / on the Sansa 20.07.02 # Then you hold left to boot to OF. 20.08.13 # I've not worked out why I'm getting the checksum on rockbox.e200 wrong, and I need to play around with the line that disables the cache to make it boot Rockbox quicker before I commit it. 20.09.19 # You're flushing the cache after loading rockbox.e200? 20.11.12 # amiconn: No... disabling it before loading either firmware. Rockbox boots (quicker) with it enabled, OF half works. Well, I *think* I'm disabling it 20.11.54 # patch isnt working 20.12.28 # Waiting for CVS 20.12.32 # Now what? I have a 32 kHz file and a 48 kHz file and both play too slow. Wonder what's wrong with my new code... :) 20.12.57 # hmm 20.12.59 # metadata weirdness 20.13.00 # ? 20.13.16 # Yes, but the ID3 viewer shows the right value... 20.13.22 # well, nice 20.13.28 # I need to do some Real Life-ing this evening, but I'll get the bootloader in tonight. 20.13.41 # Step 2 will be to make it boot .mi4 files. 20.14.10 # RoLo for OF? 20.14.29 # And the same files work just fine in the simulator. 20.14.32 # OFLo 20.14.34 Join FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-057-109-203.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.14.43 # amiconn: If possible 20.15.09 # That's what RoLo can do on archos - load both rockbox and OF, the same way as the ROM OF can load another one from disk 20.15.47 # It'd be nice if I could do that on h120 20.15.59 # I'll make it happen on Sansa then. And then see if I can make it work on iPod. 20.16.12 # What would you need the OF on H1x0 for? 20.16.36 # amiconn: For the occasional time when I mess up Rockbox (such as forget to update codecs) 20.16.39 # I can understand that one wants OF on H300 or X5 (for usbotg) 20.16.41 # If any of the H10 guys are interested, lines 699-704 on that pastebin were the key to making the OF boot 20.17.17 # Or I load a broken build just before leaving home 20.17.42 # But yeah, it's not as good reasons as on h300 and x5 20.17.43 # Then don't do that... 20.17.46 # I try! 20.18.05 # If the build is broken, it will likely not have a working RoLo either... 20.18.19 # ...and then there already is dual boot in the bootloader 20.18.37 # Yeah, but then I would have flashed Rockbox 20.18.59 # Oh well 20.19.15 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 20.20.07 # if i dont want to double boot for the moment, i just have to not add latest dan_a's patch ? 20.21.45 Quit _FireFly_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.22.36 Nick dan_a is now known as dan_a_away (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 20.25.36 Quit Gnelik41 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.36.34 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 20.36.37 Join webguest01 [0] (i=5950bebb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.36.58 # hi, what are those red builds for X5, Mike Sevakis? 20.37.40 # don't think it's me. the files were included in the update and SOURCES and it builds fine here 20.37.57 # then is it a build server thingy? 20.38.03 # most likely 20.38.33 # then I can dowload the cvs build w/o problems? 20.38.54 # not a build with errors, no 20.39.06 # oh :( 20.39.21 # the source should be fine if that's what you mean 20.39.33 # The errors occured on 2 different build servers 20.39.47 # weird - now linuxstbs server has the same "Warning: couldn't get zip" message, and missing iriver builds 20.39.51 # not the source (don't have dev env here), just the build 20.39.56 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-228-226.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 20.40.19 # Most were on linuxstb.rockbox.org, but one on xen.ihme.org 20.40.41 # obo: Those warnings are due to the failed build 20.40.42 # has to be a server, the files were added and are in SOURCES. I can compile all that 20.40.58 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 20.41.02 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.41.03 # Bagder: around? 20.41.04 # amiconn: yup - me being stupid - sorry 20.41.32 # I can do a small update to a comment and initiate another build 20.41.43 # please do 20.41.51 # I'm about to commit something though. 20.42.05 # k 20.42.05 # Give me ten minutes or so. 20.42.58 # Lear: what will your commit for? 20.43.30 # tell me, cause I still wanna correct the tiny oversight :) 20.43.40 # Why not wait and see? :p 20.44.04 # aright, just thinking I could combine it with yours 20.44.28 # If you really want to commit, just do it... 20.45.15 # mostly to just see if it goes differently :\ 20.47.18 # Ok, checked in. 20.48.34 # jhMikeS: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-11-23%2019:47:25.html Seems like th ebuild system ssplit your commit in 2 20.48.53 # Happens from time to time, and it's annyoing... 20.48.54 # again? happening alot lately 20.50.10 # use to hang on me now it split my stuff...hrm 20.51.16 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@dpc6744106043.direcpc.com) 20.51.56 # now I can't recall if the last split I got involved new files or not 20.53.46 # red builds fixed 20.54.10 # \o/ 20.54.15 # :) 20.55.11 # what changed lately that would make splitting more likely? 20.55.28 Quit BHSPitLappy (Success) 20.56.54 Quit webguest01 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.57.39 # probably nothing much, I'm just rolling snakeyes more :P 20.58.31 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.59.10 # * preglow chants SVN! 21.00.50 # * scorche hears an ominous voice say, "Spell Failed" 21.04.32 # * lostlogic chants git 21.04.41 # preglow: there's no double setting of the source now 21.04.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.26 Join patrickvox [0] (n=patrick@64.235.249.83) 21.06.33 # hi guys 21.06.52 # anyone able to view .lit or .pdf files on IPOD-5G ? 21.07.51 # Iceweasel and Icedove, what a naming crap 21.08.50 # I don't see it. 21.08.58 # Firefox and Thunderbird are better? 21.10.24 # They are well known 21.13.04 Quit dan_a_away (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.13.48 # my firefox calls itself Bon Echo, not sure where that came from 21.14.15 # I think you're using an old alpha, or possibly beta... 21.14.27 # It was a code name during development. 21.14.29 # amiconn: But debian is not allowed to use them under acceptablle terms. 21.14.40 # I think Iceweasel and Icedove are better names 21.14.44 # ah, then Gentoo's just chosen to dodge the patent thing by using the development names 21.14.46 # It makes it more clear that they are related 21.15.11 # jhMikeS: cool 21.15.22 # Patent? Trademark, you mean (or possibly copyright)... 21.15.54 # Other linux distros don't seem to have problems with the firefox name 21.16.11 # This is because MoCo is a bunch of whiny bitches 21.16.57 # preglow: and you can set the input gain too. doesn't work through sound_set it turns out 21.16.58 # And Debian is not willing to compromise their principles to meet the demands from them 21.17.10 # But this is severely OT, and Ill shut up now. 21.17.51 # amiconn: other distros don't take their main principles so seriously as debian 21.17.59 # patrickvox: no 21.18.26 # firefox/tbird really can't be handled as free software as long as those logos/names are in use, so debian fixed it 21.18.37 # pretty much agree completely with it as well, mozilla are acting up 21.19.38 # Ahahahaha 21.20.19 # After upgrading from firefox 1.5 to iceweasel 2.0, the first start shows the page "You've updated to the latest version of Firefox" 21.20.21 # rofl 21.20.32 # obviously a thorough patch, haha 21.21.44 # Yeah, someone went grepping and failed to pick up on the fact that it'll visit that url 21.23.01 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 21.23.23 # markun: do you think that will be in future features ? 21.23.42 Quit [g2] ("Leaving") 21.23.49 Join [g2] [0] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) 21.24.01 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.38.157) 21.25.05 # patrickvox: they are not planned, but who knows, maybe some day someone will write a viewer for them. 21.25.17 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c80-216-155-218.bredband.comhem.se) 21.25.18 # ahh, like a 'plugin' ? 21.25.21 # yes 21.26.05 # ahh ok 21.26.21 # i was so h appy to switch over from the itune to rockbox 21.26.27 # i hated the database on itune 21.26.33 # takes forever to copy files 21.26.43 # whereas on rockbox, i can just copy my folders of mp3 over and voila, it's done 21.26.54 # patrickvox: can you program a little bit? 21.27.03 # yes, i'm learning php :-) 21.27.27 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-3-239.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.27.36 # if you want to contribute to rockbox you can learn C after that 21.27.44 # ahh, like gnu-c ? 21.27.58 # i would love to contribute to rockbox 21.28.02 # well, ehh.. just C 21.28.04 # i can learn c in 24 hours 21.28.55 # how good i will be, god knows 21.29.08 # the GNU C compiler doesn't only compile "GNU C" :) 21.29.48 # are you a contributor/developer for rockbox ? 21.30.09 # yes 21.30.35 # that's cool 21.30.38 # you sounds pretty cool 21.30.44 # where are u from 21.33.22 Join Flavius [0] (n=chatzill@e178018112.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.34.50 Quit midgey34 () 21.35.39 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@dpc6744106043.direcpc.com) 21.37.39 Quit TeaSea (Connection timed out) 21.47.03 Join kerb [0] (n=espen@nygaard.ping.uio.no) 21.47.29 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.47.43 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 21.51.53 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.52.00 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.197.193) 21.59.03 # coz i wanna bum fuk u 21.59.33 # hi all 21.59.49 # I just intalled rockbox on a 5.5g ipod 21.59.53 # kwinchee2: wrong window? 22.00.10 # Flavius: did it work ok? i thought 5.5G wont work on rockbox ? 22.00.17 # now when I try to play doom it freses at the begining 22.00.36 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 22.00.39 # yes, it worked, but the apple os is gone now and can't be booted 22.00.53 # and it only works for the 30G one 22.01.09 Quit FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.01.13 # now, how could I unblock it? 22.01.14 # 30gig is 5G 22.01.20 # 5.5G is the 80gig 22.01.31 # nope, mine is 5.5g 22.01.44 # how do you determine if 30gig is 5.5G ? 22.01.57 # the only 5.5G i know is the 80gig version...the 30/60GIG are 5G 22.02.10 # according to the Apple site the last 3 letter from the serial nr indicate if you have a 5.5. and I have one 22.02.16 Join menosm [0] (n=chatzill@user-11fa2lv.dsl.mindspring.com) 22.02.25 # ahhh 22.02.27 # as far as I know, 5.5 come in 30 and 80g 22.02.39 # ok, that's cool to know, my bad 22.02.58 # yeah, I was pretty impressed that it worked. 22.03.09 # but now i have a frozen doom :( 22.03.15 # you can adjust it 22.03.18 # let me give u a link 22.03.45 Quit nave7693 ("Leaving.") 22.07.04 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 22.07.19 Part patrickvox 22.12.14 # anyone can help me with a frozen domm on ipod 5.5g? how to "reset" it? 22.13.03 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.13.47 # Flavius: flicking hold on and off again will bring up the menu in doom - if it's really frozen, you'll need to hold select+menu to reboot 22.15.23 # the controls don't respond. but ofter plugging in and out the ipod it started again. thanks! 22.15.36 # any ideeas as to why doom freezes? 22.17.22 # sweet, sweet lord 22.19.13 # damned, it's broken again! 22.19.39 Join t0dk01 [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-231-244-54.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 22.20.18 # scheisse, I need help installing the bootloader on my brothers ipoD 22.21.03 # ./ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin 22.21.03 # Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video 22.21.03 # Cannot open loader image file bootloader-video.bin 22.21.42 # Download it. 22.22.01 # download what, exactly? 22.22.20 # The loader image file bootloader-video.bin 22.22.31 # The link should be at the start of the install instructions. 22.22.36 # ah alright 22.23.03 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 22.23.11 Quit midgey34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.23.33 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.5.27.novuscom.net) 22.23.43 # ahh, thanks, thats what I had forgot 22.23.44 # lol 22.23.57 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 22.24.33 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 22.28.08 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-228-226.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 22.28.53 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.38 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 22.29.43 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.30.19 Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) 22.30.28 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.31.21 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.31.40 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 22.32.42 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@dpc6744106043.direcpc.com) 22.34.12 # cool, got it to work 22.35.24 Join RogerBacon [0] (n=RogerBac@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177645554.dsl.bell.ca) 22.35.32 Part t0dk01 22.40.20 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 22.41.47 Join d0gmaz [0] (n=d0gmaz@ip249-146-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl) 22.42.35 # i have an ipod nano v2 there is no rockbox port but is there an good opensource alternative wich does support the v2 nano? 22.42.49 # no 22.43.00 # if there were, you would have rockbox for nano v2 by now 22.43.12 Quit Flavius ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 22.43.28 # damn 22.43.42 # is it going to be ported? 22.43.47 Quit zivan56 () 22.43.49 # Probably 22.44.21 # But it might take a long time 22.47.24 Quit midgey34 () 22.51.36 Join dan_a_away [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 22.51.54 Nick dan_a_away is now known as dan_a (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 22.53.44 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.54.25 Quit d0gmaz () 22.57.19 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.58.52 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.02.19 Quit EnterNickGnelik ("CGI:IRC (Session timeout)") 23.04.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.04 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.06.30 Part jhMikeS 23.15.30 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 23.19.33 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 23.20.14 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 23.22.25 Join jba [0] (n=jba@postoffice.rogen.com.au) 23.22.38 Quit webguest23 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.24.25 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.26.21 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.29.01 # * petur waves a magic wand and hopes the dB versus % mails go away 23.29.23 Quit petur ("*poof*") 23.29.42 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@dpc6744106043.direcpc.com) 23.30.19 # god, yes 23.30.25 # how is it possible to generate such an amount of mails over it 23.30.27 # so i didn't know you could concatenate strings in c like this somefunction("string first part" "string second part") 23.30.54 # is that ansi, the specific version that the rockbox dev platform uses? 23.31.01 # ansi it is 23.31.08 # even pre-ansi iirc 23.31.17 # wow, you lorn something new every day. It was trhowing me off 23.31.27 # it's used mainly with macro's in rockbox, but still 23.32.09 # Bagder, (g before the d?) does it ony work with string literals? 23.32.23 # yeps, only strings 23.32.51 # so not char arrays and such, thought so. would have to be a compile time thing 23.33.59 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.35.27 # anyone know what kind of aac files rockbox can currently play? 23.35.33 # obviously, it can't play the ones i've got 23.37.25 Quit midgey34 () 23.39.11 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@dpc6744106043.direcpc.com) 23.40.52 Quit midgey34 (Client Quit) 23.46.44 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.56.55 Join matsl__ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.58.51 Quit matsl_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))