--- Log for 30.11.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 15 hours ago 00.02.17 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.02.20 # i dont have a knoppix cd\ 00.02.24 # Sorry 00.03.04 # jba: don't you (the gigabeat-port people) work with a different tree? 00.03.35 # bluebrother: is the non-lcd completely screwles.. or is there a screw under the clip? 00.04.16 # they don't mention the non-lcd, and I only have the lcd remote 00.04.29 # which has one small screw at the cable end 00.05.06 # I can download knoppix but it seems to be in german 00.05.24 # pixelma, yeah we do for now 00.05.28 # till we get it stable 00.05.36 # Ill just use my friends ubuntu cd 00.05.53 # Unleet, you can change the language of knoppix at boot time 00.06.07 # pixelma, shouldn't be too hard to merge across 00.06.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.07.03 # ok, that clip _was_screwed. They are telling lies in that opening guide :( 00.07.15 Join neoseth [0] (n=karsh@p3E9E7F0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.07.24 # jba: some plugins (bubbles and metronome) got this button action code added very recently - I wonder if yours already have it or not 00.07.37 # hi 00.07.52 # i remember having to deal with some ifdefs when getting metronome to build, would that be it? 00.08.16 # it's rb cvs as of two weeks ago now methinks 00.08.50 # I see. 00.09.12 # pixelma: I don't think we have the latest versions, but we didn't change anything 00.09.14 # you can still use ubuntu instead. Or any other live cd 00.09.21 # I will try the ums trick for now, and check back here later with results. 00.09.30 # anyone could give me a little help about usb mode on a iriver ? 00.09.34 # I should start to commit some of the gigabeat changes back to rockbox 00.09.43 # LOL 00.09.43 # jba: the button actions are there to get rid of the "ifdef keypad" ... 00.09.53 # so then we don't have them 00.09.55 # hehe 00.10.05 # What about the usb mode on thr IRIVER? 00.10.07 # I'll check the cvs logs 00.10.10 # the PCB has "IMP-550 Remocon" printed on it 00.10.12 # Which Model IRIVER? 00.10.16 # 340 00.10.17 # well 00.10.35 # im using this charging station with usb and power connectors 00.10.53 # used to be with the orig firmware to just charge and turn off the display 00.11.07 # now i get usb bootloader mode 00.11.10 # I coul open the front part, i only see 6 cables 00.11.28 # if i press and hold rec .. does it normal charge with the power connector ? 00.12.02 # jba: markun: JdGordon added them on November 16th 00.12.03 # on the bottom I have pads labelled as GND and 3V 00.12.41 # one small question concerning the last commit: do i have to rename the existing playlists now to m3u8 or does rockbox recognize them being in utf8 format? 00.12.46 # yeah I know:) but on the non-lcd there are only 6 cables, 3 for the audio, 00.13.03 Quit Unleet ("CGI:IRC") 00.13.14 # is 3V connected? 00.13.15 # 1 for buttons, one for ground and one for hold? 00.13.26 # cant open it that far 00.14.11 # PaulJam, as long as you don't have special characters (i.e. non-ASCII) in your filenames it doesn't matter 00.14.31 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rrcs-70-62-36-2.central.biz.rr.com) 00.14.41 # can't you take out the PCB? 00.15.09 # anyone else with some iriver knowledge ? 00.15.17 # nope, screwed, and I cant fully open it... it's jamed somewhere and I cant find ou how.....still searching 00.15.39 # neoseth, what u need to know? 00.15.48 # neoseth, usb charging isn't implemented yet 00.16.01 # well i dont want to toast my player 00.16.02 Part n1s 00.16.04 # there is a patch in the tracker, but you can always use the OF for usb charging 00.16.25 # neoseth, u can, see misticriver forum 00.16.33 # just tryed that rec holding and it looks like its booting the orig iriver firmware 00.16.38 # there is a custom build which has that feature 00.16.42 # bluebrother: thanks 00.17.08 # i dont want usb charging anyway since i use the docking station which has a power connector 00.17.16 Quit PaulJam (".") 00.18.17 # wall charger charging is handled in hardware, so unless you use a charger that doesn't fit there shouldn't be a possibility to fry your player 00.18.40 # hope so ... only thigs that was getting on my nerves was 00.19.10 # that still the bootloader mode came up with the display not turning off 00.19.19 # bluebrother: found it :D 00.19.39 # nice. 00.20.16 # pixelma don't think they made it, but i'm sure it won't be too hard to bring back accross 00.22.03 # grml .. display doesnt turn off this way =) 00.22.32 # hmm, red: key, brown L, green R, black Dground, white Start, loose copper wire VREE 00.22.46 # loose wire? 00.23.48 # just twisted copper threads, thicker than the other wires, not loose 00.24.25 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.24.34 # no shell around it 00.24.44 # ah. 00.25.19 # I see nothing called analog ground... whould that be this wire or is it possible there isnt an analog ground?:S 00.25.46 # srry not VREE, VREF 00.27.38 # jba: would be easier to adapt it in your version then :D - though that wouldn't be the right option IMO 00.27.45 Quit obo ("bye") 00.27.47 # hmm I think you whrere right.. it's somehow connected to thebuttons I think 00.28.03 # I don't have VREF but 3V here. 00.28.16 # maybe it's just a different name on the non-lcd remote 00.28.28 # pixelma, does it need to be adapted to specific screen size, or is design so that it can adapt to given res automatically>? 00.28.40 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/HardwareSchematics/ctrl_adc.pdf here is something called VCC, same thing? 00.30.14 # it would need to be adapted to the screen size - it uses a background picture (in cvs this background even consists of two parts) 00.31.19 # and if it uses the whole screen I'd suggest to put the preview of the next bubble and things like that somewhere else 00.31.35 # but VREF also goes to the jack-in... together with L and R 00.32.59 # I think this thing works totaly different, but there should be some similarity so the player can recognise it... 00.33.23 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 00.33.40 # can you measure between VREF and the other pins? Is there somewhere a noticeable value? 00.33.54 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 00.33.59 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7CAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.34.17 # I don't think they are too much different. The lcd remote has the spi bus added for the lcd (and a pin for the backlight) 00.34.24 # I don't know where my multimeter is :P and I don't have a good one, I measured it someplace else 00.35.33 # too bad. Maybe I should try to get hands on one on the weekend. 00.37.19 # yeah, but 1: AGND,L, R, CS, HOLD,START, DGND, RS, EL, DATA, 3V, CLK, RMC, 2got: L,R,DGND, START, VREF, RMC 00.39.21 # so maybe the VREF =3V or VREF = AGND? 00.40.08 # there is no HOLD on the non-lcd remote, so my earlier theory about the hold button connected to ADC cant be correct 00.40.28 # The non-lcd remote does have hold 00.40.50 # yeah, but no wire only for the hold button like the lcd display does 00.41.55 # does the non-lcd remote allow to read out the hold status? I.e. is the hold status available to the main device? 00.42.19 # maybe the hold switch just locally disconnects the keys 00.42.21 # I'll check 00.42.47 # in rockbox it can see, but that could be a nice software thing 00.42.52 # Correct. The non-lcd remote hold is connected to the adc, in parallel with the button R network 00.43.21 # Afaiu, it just shorts the button network to ground, giving a zero adc reading when enabled 00.43.24 # let me see if the H120 sees it 00.44.16 # see firmware/target/coldfire/iriver/h300/button-h300.c (and the equivalent for h1x0) 00.44.41 # ok, that means that the player cant read see what type of remote is connected by the HOLD pin in the lcd remote 00.44.53 # gna ... my fault works now =) 00.45.31 # amiconn, you followed our conversation? 00.45.46 # anyway thx for the help 00.46.21 Join webguest10 [0] (i=86868802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-63dc7c8503cf3c97) 00.46.24 # Bonusbartus: For remote type detection, see firmware/drivers/lcd-h100-remote.c 00.46.33 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.47.03 # yeah I looked into it, as does bluebrother, but we cant find out where the adc reads the value 00.47.30 Quit neoseth () 00.47.31 Quit webguest10 (Client Quit) 00.47.32 # What's the problem? 00.47.34 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-10-52-34.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.47.44 # bluebroter: yep my h120 also sees the hold switch for the new non-lcd remote in original firmware 00.48.06 # adc_scan() is the function that actually reads the adc 00.48.24 # amidon: the problem is that I am building a infrared remote, and I need to know how the player knows what remote is connected 00.48.36 # hmm. AFAICS the remote type gets read as a 8bit adc value 00.48.55 # Yes, via channel ADC_REMOTEDETECT 00.49.16 # amicon: correct, and what is on the other end of ADC_REMOTEDETECT 00.49.31 # a plug from the remote? a combination of plugs? 00.49.51 # The value depends both on the remote type _and_ the hold status, _except_ for the non-lcd remote where hold status doesn't matter for the ADC_REMOTEDETECT voltage 00.50.14 # yeah thats as far as I got 00.50.16 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.50.23 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.199.131) 00.50.29 # That's the reason for the weird threshold checking 00.50.54 # hmm I think you don't know what I'm looking for.... 00.51.21 # I don't know what "other end" you mean 00.51.35 # ADC voltages are measured against ground as usual 00.52.13 # yep, but what voltage does it check to find out which remote is connected 00.52.34 # Ahem, ADC_REMOTEDETECT as already said... 00.53.24 # but what is the hardware end of ADC_REMOTEDETECT? 00.53.34 # but where in the player does ADC_REMOTEDETECT measure, it has to be on one of the 13 pins that go into the remotecontroll 00.53.42 # yes 00.53.51 # but which pin:P 00.53.54 # I don't know whether the pinout is documented somewhere 00.54.02 # or wghat combination of pins 00.54.07 # yeah, but not that one :P 00.56.47 # amicon: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents#Remote_Control 00.57.52 # hmm. I think I'd try pulling that HOLD pin to some value between GND and 3V 00.57.57 Part Terinjokes 00.58.21 Join ani-adom [0] (n=Shomakom@212.117.141.138.static.012.net.il) 00.58.44 # hi 00.58.56 # who can i made mt own wps? 00.58.56 # but.. how can it be the HOLD pin, the non-lcd remote doesn't have that one... 00.59.19 # but I should go and get some sleep. 00.59.38 # because the ADC_REMOTEDETECT value is dependent of the hold switch? 00.59.55 # yeah me too, have college at 8.15 01.00.04 # I also suspect it has to do with the hold pin 01.00.25 # amicon: that was my first guess too 01.00.27 # maybe I get around to measure a bit over the weekend. Too bad I only have one remote 01.00.54 # The non-lcd remote doesn't change the open-loop voltage significantly 01.01.00 # but there has to be another pin thats checked, because the non-lcd is checked without having that pin 01.01.30 # maybe START 01.01.34 # bluebrother: could you mail me if you find some answers? 01.01.39 # The only indication of non-lcd remote vs. no remote at all is the remotedetect gpio pin, which I suspect uses some kind of bridging via the digital ground ring 01.01.48 # but isn't START just connected to a GPIO? 01.02.07 # who can i made mt own wps? 01.02.14 # yep 01.02.18 # Bonusbartus, sure. 01.02.41 # DGN 540 ohm resistor, start, GPIO37 or 38 01.02.56 Quit ender` (" There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S) 01.03.16 # could it be connected to two things? 01.03.35 # would surprise me a bit. 01.03.40 # yeah me too 01.03.55 # maybe just disconnect the HOLD wire and see if the remote still gets detected 01.04.11 # hehe, you could try that even without any pin labelled HOLD 01.04.40 # nope gives another reading :) 01.05.00 # but not the same as when i pull the remote out 01.05.52 # maybe it checks HOLD and RMC? 01.06.27 Join gotthardt [0] (i=keefejoh@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-2c33a9ec94e3dd0d) 01.06.41 Quit preglow (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.06.41 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.06.41 # hmm no can't be, when the non-lcd remote is connected it shows a 00 for remotebuttons, but the same value for remote_detect 01.07.01 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.07.01 NJoin preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 01.07.22 # maybe. Find my mail address in my forum profile or the wiki 01.07.23 # It's _one_ voltage, and the fact that the voltage changes with the hold switch position except for the non-lcd remote is a strong point for the theory that it's the hold pin 01.07.59 # ehrm ... remote_buttons and remote_detect is the same value? 01.08.11 # who can i made mt own wps? 01.08.31 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.34 # ani-adom, it doesn't help repeating the same question every minute. 01.08.40 # amiconn: I'm adding RTC wakeup to the Gigabeat. Do you know what rtc_check_alarm_flag should do? 01.09.02 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.203.157) 01.09.02 Quit gotthardt ("CGI:IRC") 01.09.04 # uhm...I mean ADC_REMOTEDETECT and ADC_REMOTE 01.09.15 # * amiconn would expect to see a basically working port before seeing such tiny details fixed 01.09.21 # ani_adom, check at www.misticriver.net 01.10.00 # amiconn: I know, but when it's late I prefer to fix simple things 01.10.18 # ok, back after some hours of sleep. See you guys. 01.10.23 Quit bluebrother ("sleep!") 01.11.13 Quit bytie ("Dana") 01.11.18 # amiconn, ADC_BUTTONS 00 onhold, FF normal, ADC_REMOTEDETECT: stays FC onhold and not onhold 01.12.11 Quit funky ("leaving") 01.12.17 # Bonusbartus: I repeat again: ADC_REMOTEDETECT is the remote type detection signal (that's verified working), and I'm quite sure the signal is parallel to the hold signal line 01.12.45 # ADC_REMOTEDETECT is praktically the same regardless whether a non-lcd remote is connected or no remote at all 01.13.11 # ADC_BUTTONS is just the remote button network 01.13.13 Quit ani-adom (":") 01.13.23 # its value is E4 without remote and FC with remote... so it does detect something 01.13.38 # fluctuations 01.14.34 # then how is it possible that it tells me remotetype: 3 when it is plugged in and zero when it isn't 01.14.51 # Because it also checks the remotedetect gpio 01.15.11 # hrrm 01.16.16 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.16.31 # yeah I got that, but how can it detect that on a non-lcd remote when there is no HOLD pin? 01.18.11 # well, I'm going to get some sleep 01.19.53 # see you guys 01.19.54 # [01:01:38] The only indication of non-lcd remote vs. no remote at all is the remotedetect gpio pin, which I suspect uses some kind of bridging via the digital ground ring 01.20.50 # ah, did't see that before :) 01.20.54 # srry : 01.21.25 # but ok, I'll get some sleep and measure some things tomorrow 01.21.28 # see ya 01.22.02 Quit Bonusbartus ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.23.53 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) 01.24.45 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.25.32 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 01.28.45 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.34.22 Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 01.35.39 Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.35.56 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p54985478.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.42.31 # grrr... I don't know what I'm doing wrog but I fail to use gui_synclist ... it doesn't show the title configured and hangs :( 01.43.51 Join defect [0] (i=defect@81-226-121-91-o1034.telia.com) 01.45.29 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.47.55 # http://pastebin.ca/261976 <-- anyone? 01.49.30 # * petur really wanted to deal with the properties plugin tonight :( 01.55.02 # bug was elsewhere... 02.02.37 Quit wooo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.04.56 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.05.15 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.194.220) 02.06.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.10.57 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.11.39 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rrcs-70-62-36-2.central.biz.rr.com) 02.12.09 # working and probably final version of properties plugin is on the tracker :) 02.12.16 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 02.21.57 Join H3g3m0n [0] (n=hegemon@220-244-61-150.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.34.38 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.175.233) 02.36.10 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 02.38.03 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.196.230) 02.38.13 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 02.42.13 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.44.17 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rrcs-70-62-36-2.central.biz.rr.com) 02.55.11 Join sellout_ [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 02.55.59 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 02.57.47 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Connection timed out) 03.04.52 Part pixelma 03.07.33 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.222.120) 03.13.55 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 03.15.32 Join michaelcapito [0] (n=michaelc@c-68-45-167-250.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 03.15.55 # Hey, anyone here? 03.16.15 # 109 others... 03.16.34 # Holy cow. I'm sorry. 03.16.40 Quit sellout_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.17.13 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.17.16 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 03.17.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.17.37 # How would one go about adding a new device to the development list? 03.18.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort 03.19.56 # if only there was an add port button 03.20.36 # Thanks, Jd. 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That game is damned addictive 06.13.49 # aliask: heh...since when have you been playing? 06.13.52 # grrr 06.13.58 # /msg alisk 06.14.03 # whatever...go to PM 06.24.00 Join menosm [0] (n=menosm@user-11fad6j.dsl.mindspring.com) 06.37.09 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.37.28 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 06.46.32 Quit perpleXa ("Leaving") 06.49.37 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 06.50.53 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 06.51.35 Quit midgey34 () 07.02.57 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 07.04.27 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 07.05.43 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 07.08.11 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.08.23 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rrcs-70-62-36-2.central.biz.rr.com) 07.19.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.19.23 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 07.19.33 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 07.19.34 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.20.11 # How do I add myself to this list: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/people/userlist.html ? 07.23.27 # Click "go back", and it should become obvious 07.26.34 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 07.30.10 Join dre [0] (i=dre@71.201.12.242) 07.30.58 Join jadakiss [0] (n=ihost@69-169-92-159.lmdaca.adelphia.net) 07.31.08 # anyone alive ? 07.32.33 # how can i check what kind of ipod i got ? 07.33.03 # Serial: 7n6014jhszb 07.33.09 # what kind of ipod is it ? 07.33.59 # Hmm, I don't think you should be telling everyone your serial number. 07.34.19 # why can u steal it 07.34.41 # I think you can do a few things with it on the Apple website. 07.34.47 # Anyways, take a look here: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 07.35.08 # There are little pictures of iPods to help you identify which one you might own. 07.35.42 # looks like the iPod Mini 2nd gen 07.35.43 # hmm is there one for shuffle? 07.36.04 # lol, no, there isn't one for the Shuffle, I don't think. 07.36.08 # Do you have a shuffle, dre? 07.36.12 # i have one 07.36.15 # barnacles 07.36.17 # ! 07.36.39 # What's the point of having Rockbox on a shuffle? 07.36.52 # the EQ 07.36.56 # i hate the freakin presets 07.37.01 # sonds like shit 07.37.06 # i cant use my custom EQ 07.38.00 # Heh. 07.38.28 # http://www.sdreader.com/php/cityshow.php?id=1453 <--interesting what you said about serials, good to know that zzap thx 07.39.20 # Hehe, no problems. 07.39.56 Join RoC_MM [0] (n=mastermi@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.41.09 # zzap: There would be several reasons to want rockbox on a shuffle. 07.41.15 # from an apple employee.. 07.41.15 # Glucksman said he would report the missing iPod and "I'd buy another one. If the reported stolen one were recovered, it'd make a good present." 07.41.22 # of course they say that! 07.47.22 # Man, I hate I/O errors. 07.49.40 Part RoC_MM ("Leaving") 07.52.17 Quit Life^ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 07.53.43 Quit dre ("Blessed are they that run around in circles, for they shall be known as wheels.") 07.54.25 Quit jba (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.57.33 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-64-217-218-164.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 07.59.26 Quit JoeBorn ("bedtime!") 08.00.59 # barnacles! 08.01.08 # now i cant even add songs to the shuffle 08.01.11 # they wont show 08.02.58 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.03.44 Join BHSPitMonkey__ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-67-114-113.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.06.00 Quit BHSPitMonkey_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.06.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.09.50 # hey 08.10.39 # Bagder, LinusN: Any news about automatic voice building? 08.12.13 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.12.32 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 08.24.57 Quit thegeek_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 08.29.43 # any chance of some discussio re fs 6399 today? I'd really like to commit it soon 08.31.08 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.31.52 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 08.34.43 Join Britney`FAN [0] (n=KoCb0@217.79.65.189) 08.36.06 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 08.38.06 Quit Britney`FAN (Client Quit) 08.41.04 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.41.25 Join wehn_ [0] (n=wehn@ppp98-163.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 08.55.04 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e4aa9bf96704c168) 08.58.15 Quit midkay ("*poff*") 09.10.19 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 09.11.02 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.18.23 # Slasheri: your player is unbricked 09.18.36 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 09.18.44 # LinusN: oh, thats nice to hear :) thanks a lot =) 09.19.14 # will try to mail it today 09.19.14 # what is the opposite of a brick? a sponge? ;-) 09.19.19 # :-) 09.20.02 # LinusN: btw, i could give you a different address to mail it back directly here at work 09.20.09 # sure 09.20.20 # so i don't need to go to the post 2km far away ;) 09.20.21 # just email me the addy 09.20.40 # i will tell you it now :) 09.24.26 Join rasher_ [0] (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 09.24.41 # Bagder, LinusN: Any news/ideas/questions about automatic voice building? 09.25.08 # I'd love to have it 09.25.25 # What's the obstacle? 09.25.45 # It's already part of the build system. Just needs festival/flite/espeak and lame 09.26.05 # I don't think there is any except the time and effort to actually make the automatic scripts run 09.26.21 # Okay 09.28.14 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 09.28.51 # personally I'm about -12 hours to my deadline... 09.29.04 Quit rasher (Nick collision from services.) 09.29.08 Nick rasher_ is now known as rasher (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 09.29.35 # "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." 09.29.49 # :-) 09.32.09 # rofl 09.32.16 # who said that? 09.33.00 # * petur is on a project that is very likely to miss its deadline 09.33.07 # Douglas Adams 09.33.34 # Guy missed deadlines like no one else. 09.33.56 # * petur fires up word and creates a page to hang out at the office 09.37.52 # * petur retrieves page from printer 09.38.02 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-120-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.49.58 Quit wehn_ (Remote closed the connection) 09.52.50 # guys, thought on fs 6399? 09.53.05 Join bluebrother [0] (i=FTLKgoNX@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 09.58.08 # does anyone know how bookmarks work? 09.58.23 # do they only get created for playlists which are just a folder being playbed? 09.58.30 # i.e not a dynamic playlist? 10.00.22 # bluebrother: properties patch updated, now implemented as viewer but integrated in context menu. Maybe I'll commit tonight after some more code cleaning. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5742 (at the bottom) 10.01.19 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 10.01.28 # petur: I'm trying to update recording settings in the manual, do you know of an explanation of the different agc modes somwhere? 10.02.22 # is the resume info stored in the .playlist_control file? 10.02.30 # there must be a thread and patch entry about it that contain more info 10.03.21 # *forum thread 10.05.03 # n1s: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4748 10.05.13 # thank 10.05.14 # s 10.05.33 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 10.06.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.06.59 # n1s: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2841.0 10.08.23 Quit thegeek (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.08.23 Quit amiconn (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit tehsmo (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit hcs (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit LinusN (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit goffa (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit dionoea (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit Galois (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit crashd (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit blind (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.23 Quit newbyx86 (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.08.40 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.08.40 NJoin LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.08.40 NJoin amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.08.40 NJoin tehsmo [0] (n=whyrph@tysonyo.resnet.mtu.edu) 10.08.40 NJoin Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 10.08.40 NJoin hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 10.08.40 NJoin newbyx86 [0] (n=newbyx86@ip68-7-21-196.sd.sd.cox.net) 10.08.40 NJoin goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 10.08.40 NJoin blind [0] (n=blind@c-71-234-180-125.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 10.08.40 NJoin crashd [0] (n=crashd@lostnode.org) 10.08.40 NJoin dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net) 10.09.18 # petur, saw that but didn't have time to try before I left this morning 10.09.50 # you last patch still includes changes to english.lang -- intended? 10.10.16 # of course... the sting for the context menu 10.10.22 # string even 10.11.34 # I made that patch just after getting it working stable, must clean up a bit and test more tonight 10.11.45 # ah, ok. So you don't use "open with" for this 10.12.21 # no, it's like the credits thing: it looks like it is part of rockbox but actually calls a plugin for it 10.12.33 # like overlays 10.13.05 # a sneaky way to avoid growing the binary size of the core image 10.13.23 # me likes 10.13.30 # not sneaky at all... more shhuold be dont like that imo 10.13.50 # Now I understand the idea of putting the settings editor in a plugin. the user wouldn't even know it is a plugin. Downside is that it will fail if the plugin isn't there 10.13.50 # I'm actually in favour of _more_ things done like that 10.14.06 # like the settingsconfiguratio and wps :D 10.14.27 # that shold have said settings configuration 10.14.54 # and that should have said should? 10.15.07 # haha 10.15.09 # * JdGordon throws keyboard against the wall 10.15.23 # cheap piece of wireless crap! 10.15.46 # but at least people are watcing the channel now.... 10.15.51 # I don't think this would be good for settings ... requires a disk spinup every time you access the settings 10.16.01 # does .playlist_control store resme info on shutdown? or is it all in config block? 10.16.25 # (settings menu that is) 10.17.14 # bluebrother: THAT is indeed the big drawback of putting stuff in plugins. The properties thing is much slower now, but it's ok as you don't need it much. For settings it would be unacceptable 10.17.41 # not nescacerily... it could be loaded into the plugin ram on startup, then as long as nothing steals that ram it could stay there, so no disk spinup 10.17.41 # right, it should be used for seldomly used stuff 10.17.56 # plugin cache! 10.18.10 # bingo 10.18.19 # KISS 10.18.23 # yeah 10.18.56 # I can think of handling archived themes that way 10.19.07 # and caching them in an exploded tree 10.19.34 # but using one big archive file may be faster loading as it won't require lots of small files opened 10.19.40 # * petur would rather not have exploding trees in his DAP ;) 10.19.47 # hehe 10.20.11 # * bluebrother still wants to give archived themes a shot but is failing to find the required time 10.20.40 # join me :/ 10.21.08 # reminds me I should be doing some paid work.... 10.21.16 Quit petur ("worrrk") 10.22.28 # btw, is there a reason why "Rockbox Info" doesn't has the version included? credits plugin and firmware file may be out of sync thus giving a wrong version information 10.29.02 # I don't think there's a particular reason 10.33.38 # where is the usb screen code? 10.34.58 # screens.c i believe 10.35.19 # cheers 10.37.33 Join _kahuna_ [0] (n=kahuna@213.229.137.231) 10.37.54 # hmm. My player behaves strangely 10.38.25 # backlight went on and didn't turn off 10.39.28 # <_kahuna_> hi, anybody knows if it is normal to get a low background clicking noise when using a Iriver H120 with the remote? 10.40.04 # <_kahuna_> I'm getting it only with rockbox, have tried two firmwares, the first from about two weeks and the second from today 10.40.25 # _kahuna_: try enabling the "eliminate ticking" option 10.40.34 # <_kahuna_> with the original Iriver firmware I did not get the noise, nor I get it if I plug the headphones directly to the player, removing the remote 10.40.47 # <_kahuna_> ok, I'll try right now 10.41.24 # ah, it's "reduce ticking" to be exactly 10.41.30 # _kahuna_: General settings->Display options<>remote lcd<>reduce ticking 10.43.12 # <_kahuna_> fantastic!!!! 10.43.21 # <_kahuna_> it's solved, BIG THANKS! 10.51.55 Join bluebrot1er [0] (i=foobar@nat-wh-2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.54.04 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.54.04 Quit bluebrot1er (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.55.53 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 10.56.30 # JdGordon: I'm not having much luck with the Flysprayed \o/ changes.patch... :( 10.56.39 # oh? 10.57.47 # Can't get normal or sim builds to complete.. Details on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6399. 10.57.59 # It applies cleanly.. 10.58.27 # Maybe it's just me, or maybe it's Cygwin? 10.59.19 Join bluebrother [0] (i=PRPPIahH@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.59.23 # the sim bug is because menu.h is included in sim/common/stubs.c dunno why its not makign it into the patch 10.59.28 # h300 regular builds fine for me tho 10.59.34 # brb 11.04.29 # back 11.06.49 # Anything you want me to look at? 11.08.37 # e.g. why don't I have settings_list.h? 11.08.59 # you dont hae settings_list.h? 11.09.28 # ah, bloody hell 11.10.47 # ok, remaking the patch 11.10.57 # forgot to do cvsdo add aparently 11.11.04 # No problem, just so you know 11.11.16 Join bbroke [0] (n=bbroke@wll193-209.wlan.hu-berlin.de) 11.11.17 # Will keep an eye on Flyspray... 11.12.51 # ok, fs updated 11.13.33 Part bbroke 11.19.25 Quit kubiix ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 11.23.57 # JdGordon: that builds ok now, just a couple of warnings in the dev/sim/logf/debug build. 11.24.04 # menus/main_menu.c:637: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type 11.24.11 # (and the same on line 638) 11.24.52 # Mind you, the sim crashes immediately I run it! 11.24.54 # odd... i get no errors 11.25.03 # crashes? 11.25.10 # Just debugging now... 11.25.17 # you sure your running a clean cvs+patch? 11.25.24 # Yes 11.25.38 # oh wait.. i must have been runing an old version... just crashed the sim :p 11.26.05 # settings_save () at settings.c:196 11.26.11 # Seg fault 11.26.27 # Woah, recursion! 11.26.34 # ah ok 11.26.59 # #932 0x0041504e in settings_save () at settings.c:196 11.26.59 # #933 0x00415028 in write_settings_to_disk () at settings.c:179 11.26.59 # #934 0x00415035 in settings_save_ata_cb () at settings.c:189 11.26.59 DBUG Enqueued KICK pondlife 11.26.59 # #935 0x004553db in register_ata_idle_func (function=0x41502a ) 11.26.59 # at ata_idle_notify.c:51 11.27.00 *** Alert Mode level 1 11.27.00 # #936 0x0041504e in settings_save () at settings.c:196 11.27.03 # etc. 11.27.49 # Over 10000 calls deep 11.27.55 # go me :D 11.28.07 # I tinhk this is a sim only bug 11.28.20 # Still needs fixing 11.28.25 # yup 11.28.37 # 20000 and counting.... 11.29.02 # hahahaha, ok foun the bug 11.29.09 # 2 functions calling eachother 11.29.21 # it is a sim only bug, but it very possible in target bvuilds also 11.29.22 # You're not kidding! :-p 11.30.49 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 11.30.49 # * pondlife got bored after 48000 lines. 11.31.33 # * JdGordon wonders why settings are being saved so early anyway 11.32.58 # ok fixed 11.33.04 # redoin the patch once again 11.36.19 # pondlife: ok, its online 11.36.32 # * JdGordon never has much luck with patches on fs :p 11.37.01 *** Alert Mode OFF 11.39.29 Join scorche` [0] (n=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 11.43.08 Quit _kahuna_ ("Leaving") 11.45.46 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 11.52.58 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-251-153.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 11.53.33 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.53.57 # hmm.. what has changed with the battery voltage code recently? anyone know? 11.54.16 # well, maybe not so recently 11.55.01 # Are you having a specific problem related to it, or something? 11.55.38 # I'm charging my H300 with latest build and the battery is now 4,22V 98% and it's only 1h 30 m (it usually gets 3 hours for a full charge) 11.55.51 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.56.14 # dont you jujst hate when things work better than expected? 11.56.17 # Are you referring to how long it took to charge? 11.56.25 # Isn't charging hardware controlled? 11.56.50 # JdGordon: Is it meant to save settings every time I change the volume? 11.56.57 # The sim, that is. 11.57.07 # yes 11.57.10 # the previous behaviour was: at about 2h30m reach 88% and stay there until full charge (when it then went to 100% and about 4.17-4.19V) 11.57.19 # Genre9mp3: could be related to FS#3001 being committed 11.57.20 # OK, I assume the target won't... 11.57.37 # the charging on h300 is hardware controlled 11.57.49 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 11.57.59 # It seems that something has changed though 11.58.34 # I won't mind unless it stops charging earlier than it should 11.58.52 # pondlife: ok, ill add some safety guards in for the sim... the problem is the ata_idle_callback stuff doesnt work for the sim and just runs the callback when it gets it, which is whats killing it 11.59.05 # Genre9mp3: it stops charging when the hardware decides to 11.59.14 # It's not a problem, as long as it doesn't spin up the target hard disk too much. 11.59.22 # rockbox does nothing but monitor it 11.59.23 # no, the target works fine 11.59.26 # I'll get it onto there soon 11.59.37 # :) 11.59.45 # LinusN: Ok, good to know... So the monitoring has changed? 11.59.57 # i don't think so 12.00.03 # Hmm, it doesn't seem to persist my WPS 12.00.34 # then my battery is in a hurry or something? 12.00.51 # Genre9mp3: or you are using the wall charger this sime and not usb? 12.00.53 # ^not so serious statement 12.01.24 # I'm using the wall charger... byt the previous description I made was with the wall charger, too 12.01.26 # JdGordon: Actually it does persist WPS, but doesn't load it on next startup. 12.01.34 # it also depends on the state of the battery when you start charging 12.01.36 # It takes more thaan 3 hours to charge via USB 12.02.00 # pondlife: it could be because the sim doesnt have a nice shutdown which is stopping it saving 12.02.18 # No, it's saved ok 12.02.29 # Config.cfg has "wps: ipodColor" 12.02.31 # Yes... it depends on many things... but it seems to have a different behavior on monitoring... I don't know 12.02.42 # interesting.... works on the sim 12.02.46 # target* 12.03.02 # This is a customised WPS 12.03.11 Quit mooch (Remote closed the connection) 12.03.20 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54931B23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.03.20 # if is in .rockbox/wps it shodl save 12.03.20 # Although it is in the WPS directory 12.03.32 # then it shhuold be fine 12.04.40 # I just get the default WPS until I reselect it. CONFIG.CFG seems correct throughout. 12.06.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.07.35 # hmm.... sim segfaults loading the wps 12.07.41 # but it does load it! 12.07.48 # i mean it tries to 12.08.07 # no, its segfaults in wps_clear() 12.12.15 Join menosm_ [0] (n=menosm@user-11fad6j.dsl.mindspring.com) 12.18.11 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B166E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.18.43 # I don't get segfaults 12.19.48 # barrywardell: In your #3001 commit you say "Calculate remaining charging time while charging (rather than remaining running time)" wasn't this already the case? 12.20.06 # no, i don't think so 12.20.22 # maybe not for all targets? cause I remember it showed the remaining charging time before... 12.21.17 # hmmm... I should try with an old build though to be 100% sure 12.21.26 # i'm not totally sure, but i don't think it showed remaining charging time 12.21.44 # ok 12.23.12 # On a side notice, why the remaining time on h300 is still calibrated at 8h57m for 1300mAh ? 12.23.27 # It should be about 20h I think 12.25.52 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.28.39 # i'm not totally sure 12.29.30 # I remember amiconn doing some tests after the h300 power leaking fix but I don't know what happened next 12.29.54 # I got 20h30m on a bbench after that with 128kbps mp3 12.29.56 # probably the statistic is based on old battery tests 12.30.10 # yes, it is... it should be updated 12.30.17 Quit menosm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.37.03 # hmm. looks like CURRENT_NORMAL is only defined for the H100. all other devices use the definition that is calibrated for the AJB. 12.47.02 Quit Soap ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 12.50.47 Join wlectric_warrior [0] (n=3lectric@201.29.231.178) 12.50.58 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.53.11 # * Bagder pats his .emacs 12.54.22 # so I have a 4th gen ipod that thinks that it is on hold all the time, If I were to install rockbox on it, could I mod the firmware to disable the hold button function? 12.54.48 # should indeed be possible 12.55.13 # cool 13.05.31 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 13.05.40 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp117-205.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.06.53 Part Paul_the_Nerd 13.07.45 Quit wlectric_warrior ("Leaving") 13.13.37 Quit barrywardell () 13.23.26 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2f82b9c1ac5fecfc) 13.39.11 Join nick89 [0] (n=nick89@c210-49-99-250.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au) 13.40.01 Join ubuntuking [0] (n=king@ip70-191-113-4.cl.ri.cox.net) 13.40.18 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.40.24 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.44.34 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 13.46.30 # does anybody know a fix for the slow scrolling on ipod 5g video 13.46.44 # 30gb? 13.46.49 # 60 gb 13.46.55 Join dickon [0] (n=dr@82-69-69-95.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 13.46.59 # it gets slow when scrolling through songs 13.47.02 # oh 13.47.03 # uh 13.47.06 # no idea 13.47.36 # that's the only thing i am having a hard time with rockbox 13.50.19 Join Bonusbartus [0] (i=52ab47dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-df3fd0ab31c1fde9) 13.50.48 # hi 13.51.27 # bluebrother: you'r back again I see, already measured something? 13.51.27 # hey 13.54.58 # ubuntuking: I think it's a font caching problem 13.55.04 # which font are you using? 13.55.19 # one from a theme 13.55.22 # let me look 13.55.39 # it is from the black simple theme 13.55.47 # i do not know exactly which font 13.56.07 # markun, which font would you recommend 13.56.34 # ubuntuking: try one that is smaller that 10000 bytes 13.56.53 # markun, could you recommend one 13.56.58 # just as a test 13.56.58 # Bonusbartus: no, got work to do at uni 13.57.17 # (in the process to finally get outa here ;-) 13.57.57 # but I usually hang around here if I have the chance to run an irc client somewhere 13.58.31 # ubuntuking: chicago12 is small enough 13.58.47 # markun, do you think that will do? 13.58.59 # I don't know, that's why I ask you to try 13.59.49 # markun, i'll give it a shot 13.59.52 # ok 14.00.21 # the battery is actually dead 14.00.30 # hehe 14.00.36 # i'll definately try it after a recharge 14.00.58 # hmm I see linusN is here, maybe he rememders again how it worked ;) 14.01.48 # remember what? 14.03.07 # the hardware part on how(with which pin) the remote is connected to ADC_remotedetect 14.03.30 # hmmm 14.03.59 # i believe it measures the voltage of the (pulled up) CS pin of the SPI interface 14.04.14 # iirc 14.04.50 # LinusN: looked at the timestretching lib for a bit, and it should be possible 14.05.01 # preglow: nice 14.05.02 # it'll require some additional buffering i'd rather not allocate statically, though 14.05.21 # how much? 14.05.33 # depends, really, more when you stretch than when you compress 14.05.34 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b7bf0.ucd.ie) 14.05.38 # just had a quick look 14.05.53 # i think i saw the figure 100ms somewhere 14.06.05 # which is about 20kb 14.06.31 # no, more like 40kb, we'll want to do this on the full precision samples, i guess 14.06.35 # hmm not what I expected, but could be possible I think, but what about a non-lcd remote, it is an lcd display SPI right? 14.06.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.07.02 # markun, i was actually using chicago 12 14.07.11 # and... the value of adc_remotedetect changes when I switch the hold key... 14.07.12 # markun, with the simple black theme 14.08.31 # and isn't the cs pin connected to gpo34 write only? 14.08.52 # LinusN: we'll pretty much have to allocate it statically, though, if we want to be able to switch the effect on and off dynamically 14.09.06 # we'll see, i don't have time to look any further at it right now anyway 14.11.07 # Bonusbartus: i'm not sure exactly which pin it is, but i think i remember that it was one of the spi pins 14.11.35 # and the non-lcd remote has the highest voltage iirc 14.12.59 # but the remote only has 6 wires, , L,R,VREF,RMC,DGND,PLAY, how could it measure the CS pin if it doesn't have one? 14.13.34 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.13.35 # maybe because there is a pullup in the main device as well? 14.14.23 # so it is probably a pulldown in the remote 14.15.05 # hmm then, how does it see that the hold switch is on on the LCD-remote, the ADC_remoteDetect value changes when I use the lcd remote and switch the hold on 14.16.20 # LinusN: offtopic, just yesterday I discovered that there are other iriver remotes, too like this: http://images.digitalshop.ru/big/tovar/iriver_pult_imp450blue.jpg 14.16.20 # LinusN: hmm, it might actually be possible to use the pcm buffer directly for this, but then it must never be allowed to empty completely. i assume that's possible, but that'd also mean hardcoding it to work on 16 bit samples 14.16.40 # LinusN: have you ever had any experience with such a remote? 14.17.29 # the hold is on a separate pin on the lcd remote 14.17.59 # Genre9mp3: nope 14.18.11 # ok 14.18.34 # I know, but that would then mean that the adc measures 2 voltages, the hold and the cs pin or not? 14.18.52 # preglow: i don't think we will ever work on >16 bit samples anyway 14.19.00 # Bonusbartus: it could just pull down the button adc pin to 0 (or disconnect it) 14.19.30 # Bonusbartus: it means that the voltage drops on the remote when hold is active 14.19.51 # and with the buttons completely disconnected a in-device pull-up could generate the 0xff 14.19.52 # the non-lcd shorts the button adc pin 14.20.12 # hmm 14.20.35 # the non-lcd hold button that is 14.21.09 # yeah I noticed that, I screwed up one last night... 14.21.12 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.21.20 # oh? 14.21.33 # Bonusbartus: I guess you mean disassemble ;-) 14.21.39 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7CAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.21.39 # I tried to open it, but the clip borke of :P 14.22.17 # aha 14.22.26 # I tried to disassemble... but part of the clip broke of.. remote still works:) 14.23.00 # but I think I go search my multimeter... it's a very cheap one so I don't know if it measures correctly... 14.24.24 # ubuntuking: are you sure the theme didn't use one of the nimbus fonts? 14.26.20 # LinusN: so you think it has to be the cs pin, I think I try measuring that one then, is it possible to translate the hex values that ADC_remotedetect gives into some analog values? 14.26.25 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@84.150.74.132) 14.27.05 Quit NickDe ("Leaving") 14.27.31 # those hex values have been taken from readin the adc with different remotes attached, and we have never measured the actual voltages 14.28.36 # hmm ok, but when I put a resistor between the cs pin and the player the value should change 14.31.48 # well, a resistor between cs and gnd, i believe 14.33.30 # thats what I thought... so when I want to build my own remote and need to fake the lcd remote, I probabl have to fake the cs pin, the RMC pin and I would need the play pin right? 14.34.34 # yes, if it is in fact the cs pin 14.35.00 # and the hold switch 14.35.19 # if you want to be able to hold, that is 14.36.51 # hmm I dont need that, I want to make an IR receiver to put next to my hifi system... so I don't think I m going to use a hold switch often:P 14.36.59 # i see 14.38.57 # should a proper timestretcher/pitchshifer be an option in addition to the current one, or should both be able to be on simultaneously? 14.39.05 # i vote for the former 14.39.11 # I only hope the IR receiver works with rockbox, when it receives a signal, it can 1) switch a relay on or off, 2) give a pulse of 1 sec to the relay, but I don't know if thats too long 14.39.25 # poorly phrased, but you get what i mean :> 14.40.50 # preglow: are you talking about speed up/down playback without pitch change? 14.41.12 # petur: yes 14.41.35 # turning rockbox into dj equipment 14.42.33 # the current way is actually what most djs are used to 14.43.08 # since that's how a real turntable works 14.43.10 # proper timestretching only became available with final scratch 14.43.25 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 14.48.15 # this timestretch algorithm isn't very good at stretching percussive music anyway 14.48.29 # lots of echoing and smearing 14.48.52 # but i bet it is quite allright for speeding up audio books 14.48.56 # you can't get away from that 14.49.02 # it does a quite good job at speeding up audio books 14.49.06 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.49.37 # anywho, it does better at compressing than stretching, but that's universal for all kinds of algorithms 14.49.37 # well... got to work now... 14.49.43 # well, some of the proprietary algorithms do a decent job at preventing smearing 14.49.54 # well, yeah, but are they time domain? 14.49.54 # Bonusbartus: enjoy :-) 14.49.59 # preglow: no 14.50.01 # exactly 14.50.08 # we don't have enough cpu for anything else 14.50.12 # i know 14.50.46 # LinusN: yeah right :P I'll try to get my remote finished before christmas :P I hope you were right about the cs pin 14.50.49 # i'm actually pretty impressed by it, since it is time domain 14.50.50 # thanx 14.50.52 # cya 14.51.02 # yep 14.51.08 # i'm wondering how well the autocorrelation will work 14.51.12 # it's very emac friendly 14.51.26 # indeed 14.51.58 Quit Bonusbartus ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.52.45 # i think i'll just reuse the resampler we already have 14.52.56 # at least it'll be a good reason to make a better one some day :> 14.53.03 # hehe 14.54.44 Join Moos [0] (i=d9805c3e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c6bc83f4d4eaf2b7) 14.55.05 # markun, i think it did 15.05.48 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.236.206) 15.14.20 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (i=hihi@75-25.wlan.rz.uni-potsdam.de) 15.14.36 # ubuntuking: do you still have the scrolling problem with chicago12? 15.18.17 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.214.147) 15.18.32 # can the hxxx save settings to the eeprom yet? 15.19.59 # yes, i believe so 15.20.16 Quit nick89 ("Gotta Go") 15.21.17 # can we store anything to it like the archos rtc? 15.21.33 # markun, it seems much smoother 15.21.45 # markun, thanks for the help 15.22.14 # It's not a sollution of course. The font caching should be optimized. 15.23.19 # would i be able to do that if i compile my own 15.24.02 # JdGordon: on h3x0, there's still something weird with the eeprom. Sometimes rockbox seems to corrupt the iriver settings even if we don't use the eeprom atm. 15.24.13 # hmm ok 15.24.15 # i would think that the scrolling part of the code should be optimized more in order to take into account the speed of scrolling 15.24.19 # ubuntuking: If you compile your own you can make the fontbuffer as big as the biggest font you use. That will also 'fix' it 15.24.51 # markun, can i compile it using linux 15.24.58 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 15.25.06 # let me guess - ubuntu? :-) 15.25.15 # yeah 15.25.23 # ubuntuking: nah, it's OSX only here ;) 15.25.24 # you read my mind 15.25.31 # i run os x too 15.25.34 # can you do it in os x 15.25.45 # I wasn't serious 15.25.59 # lol 15.26.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 15.26.28 # * Genre9mp3 just found an official iriver datasheet that says that the H300 SNR is only 50dB! wtf??? 15.26.42 # i checked that, but i do not like the fact that u have to use cygwin 15.27.00 # ? 15.27.04 # read again 15.27.39 # where on that page does it say cygwin? 15.27.46 # can't see it either 15.28.03 # i mean i saw one that has instruction using cygwin 15.28.08 # must have overlooked this one 15.28.22 # so, you don't like that we have instructions for cygwin? :-) 15.28.29 # lol 15.28.32 # not at all 15.28.44 # * Bagder is teasing 15.28.46 # it is a matter of personal choice 15.29.01 # i use linux when i get to choose 15.29.49 Part LinusN 15.29.57 # same here 15.32.29 Quit ubuntuking ("Leaving") 15.32.53 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.37.43 Join Reolosi [0] (i=underwat@202.10.86.63) 15.38.37 # bluebrother: did we ever decide the Hold/Long issue with buttons, the platform files are a mess. 15.43.25 # is AGC swcodec only? 15.43.34 # yes 15.43.44 # thx 15.44.51 # * petur totally ignores the fact that the MAS may or may not have AGC inside somewhere... 15.54.18 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 15.58.57 # n1s: how would you handle "hold" vs. "long" in the manual? 15.59.15 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.59.33 # I like "Long" more, also avoids confusion with Hold switch 16.00.10 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/staff/tucoz) 16.00.18 # in some places I even found "long press on..." 16.00.21 # hi n1s 16.00.23 # and pixelma 16.00.27 # hi tucoz 16.00.29 # hi tucoz 16.00.39 # long is long press but hold is holding a button down until something happens or while pressing another button 16.01.16 # I simply wrote Long