--- Log for 03.12.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 18 hours ago 00.00.52 Join heyJulius [0] (n=heyJuliu@67.84-48-110.nextgentel.com) 00.06.00 Join TPJ [0] (n=TPJ@p54B110F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.06.12 # hi 00.07.44 Quit ani-adom (":") 00.10.43 # do anybody know something about the rockbox port to the elio tpj-1022 00.11.38 Quit TPJ ("Leaving") 00.12.51 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 00.14.49 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 00.15.32 Quit midkay ("*poff*") 00.19.37 Quit zzap (Client Quit) 00.20.06 Join zzap [0] (i=zzap@204.8.220.119) 00.22.22 # TPJ: Yes... 00.22.35 Quit jaebird (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.23.12 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.26.07 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.10.232) 00.30.39 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 00.50.22 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.vidao2.com") 00.53.40 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.59.38 Quit Rondom (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.25 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.03.16 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.03.40 Quit heyJulius ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.04.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.46 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.09.52 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.10.12 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.172.113) 01.12.33 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 01.12.57 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@82.52.162.71) 01.25.28 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) 01.29.10 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF69C7.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.30.39 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.34.54 Join webguest66 [0] (i=55d2813b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.35.47 # were there 'plans' (i mean as close as you can get to plans on a volunteer project) to have HFS support for macpods? 01.36.01 # noo 01.37.28 # that cos ppl in the kno hav linux and want fat anyway or cos its a silly idea? 01.38.01 # because fat32 is supportted by eerythign and there is more imporant stuff to play with 01.39.08 # are there open source type applications to 'restore'/reformat an ipod the way itunes does or can anyold disk manager di it? 01.39.14 # do* 01.39.27 # restore to hfs or fat32? 01.39.47 # either 01.40.03 # linuux can probably do both fairly easily 01.40.12 # im sure apple have a tool also 01.40.37 # thanks 01.41.37 # You can just restore using "dd" (assuming you make a backup...). 01.41.52 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.42.17 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 01.46.25 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.46.51 Quit mick_home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.48.23 Join mick_home [0] (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome) 01.51.50 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.52.09 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 01.52.14 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.56.23 # anyonoe with an x5 here? 01.59.46 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 02.00.17 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 02.00.42 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 02.00.58 Join Moos [0] (i=51400b8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 02.01.31 # jdgordon: yeah? 02.01.55 # can yyou confirm is fs 6365 fixes the problem? 02.02.01 # or if it even is a problem 02.02.06 # link? 02.02.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6365 02.02.22 # thx 02.03.05 # I'm not a bookmarks user 02.03.20 # :( 02.03.23 # have you got a "how to reproduce bug" procedure? 02.03.31 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) 02.03.39 # i dont have an x5 so i cant test it at all 02.03.40 # if so I can test quickly 02.03.59 # just enable bookmatks, add a fewe then hold rec and see if mrme than 1 bookmark is remmoved 02.04.11 # let's test 02.05.11 Join mick_home_ [0] (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome) 02.05.38 Quit lini ("lini has no reason") 02.05.56 # sim definatly seems t be effected 02.06.28 # what's suposed to do "hold rec"? 02.06.52 # sim definatly seems t be effectedthe current bookmark in the bookmark viewer 02.07.43 # oops, I did just hold "navi" and that's stoped the playback 02.07.58 # I really don't know how works this feature 02.08.12 # hehe ok, dw, the patch seems to work in the sim corectlyt 02.08.35 Quit mick_home (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.08.40 # to make a bookmar you need to enable it on stop, then hold play at the spot yyou want it 02.08.47 Nick mick_home_ is now known as mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome) 02.09.05 # k 02.11.28 # I said: commit and see ;P 02.11.42 # ? 02.12.07 # the patch that seems to fix the bug you said 02.12.13 # great 02.12.14 # commited 02.12.21 # my brain is out :) 02.12.26 # :) 02.13.02 # too more joints ;P 02.14.29 # two more, or too many ? 02.18.38 # too many, sorry 02.22.11 Join TerrorByte [0] (i=4889bb7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ginnypig.net/session) 02.23.03 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.23.09 # Hey! 02.23.18 # It's been too long. 02.23.26 # it has? 02.23.50 # So.... 02.24.05 # Has there been any big advancement? 02.24.39 # LOL, where is Paul? 02.24.45 Quit jaebird ("Leaving") 02.28.14 Quit TerrorByte ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.28.27 Quit mick_home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.28.56 # good day/night all 02.28.57 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC") 02.29.22 Join mick_home_ [0] (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome) 02.29.25 Nick mick_home_ is now known as mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome) 02.32.40 Quit ender` (" On the contrary, if you never procreate, neither will your kids.") 02.37.03 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.37.10 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF59DB.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.37.42 Quit lucas42 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.40.28 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) 02.45.07 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 02.45.44 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.48.41 Part n1s 02.48.42 Nick Caliban___ is now known as Caliban (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 02.50.51 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 02.52.23 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.02.08 Join Rudy4Pez [0] (n=A@c-24-21-214-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 03.03.50 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 03.04.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.26 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.19.17 Quit niskel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.22.32 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.30.23 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.171.195) 03.31.06 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03.32.26 Quit funky ("leaving") 03.34.53 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.35.30 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.236.201) 03.35.47 Quit NickDe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.41.06 Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.236.201) 03.43.01 Quit NickDe (Client Quit) 03.49.29 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.49.49 Join webguest18 [0] (i=46143b08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9fb1258808aaa410) 03.51.13 # When I 'ipodpatcher -r * bootpartition.bin' it comes up with an error "Bad boot sector signature" - what could this mean? 03.54.19 Quit webguest18 (Client Quit) 03.54.27 Join word1 [0] (i=46143b08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 03.54.35 # Anyone? Please? 03.59.29 Quit word1 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.06.07 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.06.45 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4F11.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.07.45 Quit TeaSea (Remote closed the connection) 04.13.06 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.13.33 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 04.16.46 Join suteny0r [0] (n=dev@adsl-156-248-86.mia.bellsouth.net) 04.17.21 # can anyone point me to unbricking guide for nano (had apple 1.1.1 fw)? 04.17.47 # seemed to be working, then showed battery icon, powered off, now dead 04.18.07 # no usb enumeration, no charge indication - tried menu+select for 10 sec no response 04.18.17 # suteny0r: i was about to install on my nano 04.18.26 # :-/ 04.18.42 # probly had low battery when i was upgrading. 04.18.50 # but never failed or complained 04.19.04 # you just might scare me out of it 04.19.08 # left it plugged in (charge?) for half hour, but no improvement 04.19.19 # ok, so i'll make sure to have a full battery 04.19.39 # i'm sure i used latest daily for ipod nano original version 04.19.51 # replacing bootloader worked without error 04.20.02 # i thought that apple had some builtin stuff for unbricking 04.20.03 # was working for about 5 min 04.20.16 # Bagder was telling me about that before 04.21.06 # doesnt even enumerate on the usb bus now when i plug it in (no happy sound) 04.21.26 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.22.55 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-21-40-208.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 04.23.06 # any other secret powerup key presses, hidden reset buttons? 04.23.55 # i hope that won't happen to me :-( 04.24.37 Join bro2baseball [0] (n=bro2base@pool-70-20-59-8.man.east.verizon.net) 04.26.17 Quit SUSaiyan ("Ex-Chat") 04.26.52 # yay! 04.26.55 # i'ts alive! 04.27.22 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7184.0 04.27.23 # helpful 04.31.31 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 04.32.58 Part bro2baseball 04.34.09 # ok, then i'll try it now :) 04.41.27 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=susaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 04.47.17 Quit suteny0r () 05.04.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.16.08 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.18.15 Quit SUSaiyan (Remote closed the connection) 05.20.06 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=susaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 05.26.56 Quit gotthardt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.27.12 Quit midgey () 05.29.04 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 05.31.49 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.35.18 Quit midkay (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.37.37 Join Kingstone [0] (i=GPool@87.69.63.162.cable.012.net.il) 05.39.09 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 05.40.34 Quit MacIver ("Who is this 'remote host' guy and why does he keep closing my connection?!") 05.46.34 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.47.09 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7422.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.58.38 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 06.00.48 Join scorche|palm [0] (n=upirc@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 06.12.03 # does anyone know how to get the hard disk ribbon cable out of the ipod 4g? i dont tink its in properly 06.28.53 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.30.40 Join mavx [0] (i=mavx@CPE-65-28-54-13.kc.res.rr.com) 06.43.59 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.45.02 Nick JdGordon_ is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.53.17 Quit Rob222241 () 07.04.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.05.00 Quit scorche|palm ("Leaving") 07.06.54 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17E5C.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.10.47 Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) 07.11.26 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-1.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 07.11.35 Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) 07.12.12 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-1.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 07.12.25 Join root [0] (n=root@58.181.207.234) 07.12.49 Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) 07.13.26 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-1.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 07.13.57 Quit root (Client Quit) 07.14.54 Join CerebroJD [0] (n=jdcerebr@S010600184d1865ad.cg.shawcable.net) 07.15.43 # wow... zzap, you're right at the bottom of the list lol 07.16.03 # I wonder why :| 07.17.35 Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) 07.18.21 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-1.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 07.19.49 Nick myzar is now known as myzar|away (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 07.20.55 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.21.35 # oO 07.23.07 # anyone know if win95 hhad pcmcia support? 07.23.45 # Not 100%, but 99% sure it did. Pcmcia is rather old afaik 07.24.11 # nnot much chancce ill find win95 drivers for my wlan card tho 07.25.22 # woohoo.. netgear has win95 drivers! 07.27.21 Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) 07.28.01 Join galbedir [0] (i=u0402437@cm182.delta160.maxonline.com.sg) 07.28.01 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-1.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 07.28.18 Quit amiconn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 07.28.19 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.32.04 Part galbedir 07.32.26 Join galbedir [0] (i=u0402437@cm182.delta160.maxonline.com.sg) 07.32.30 Part galbedir 07.35.44 Nick myzar|away is now known as myzar (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 07.37.32 # * myzar licks scorche 07.42.43 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 08.05.26 # rasher: can you email Christi for me? 08.05.48 # rasher: my email bounced since her spam blocking software sucks 08.06.26 # lol 08.07.10 # if she is ever in irc she can find me in #clamwin if i'm not here 08.22.57 Join Dj_Bj [0] (i=ggffgfgh@pc-112-251-239-201.cm.vtr.net) 08.23.48 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.24.48 Quit Dj_Bj (Client Quit) 08.26.15 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 08.29.34 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.29.43 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF64CC.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.29.58 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 08.46.24 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 08.46.36 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 09.04.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.07.23 Quit midkay ("*poff*") 09.16.31 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 09.17.37 # mick_home: she hasn't been around much lately 09.17.53 # Bagder: mind emailing her? 09.18.04 # although she has appeared in the forums I've notice 09.18.05 # i'll /msg my email 09.18.05 # d 09.18.18 # PM her there 09.18.23 # "Cassandra" 09.18.38 # i *hate* forums 09.19.19 # sigh 09.19.21 Join bluebrother [0] (i=mzkEsTCx@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 09.45.08 # I can't say I like forums very much either 09.45.25 # but many users seem to 09.45.42 # I like them 09.45.52 # but only when rules are strictly adhered to 09.45.54 # * JdGordon prefers forums over mailign liists 09.46.03 # JdGordon: oh yes 09.46.12 # when I get mail, I tend to mark and get back to those to take care of 09.46.24 # and that is impossible with forums 09.46.51 # ah, butt with mailing lists (or emaiils) once yuo say something stupid,. its there forever, you cant edit messages 09.47.10 # im sure that there is an addition somewhere that would allow you to do something like that 09.47.19 # I've honestly never been comfortable with the concept of mailing lists 09.47.21 # JdGordon: yes, but I just hate how people can change forum posts :) 09.47.35 # * amiconn prefers mls over forums 09.47.41 # JdGordon: and forums are much more structured 09.47.46 # I think forum post edits should be confined to appendages 09.47.57 # in other words, "EDIT:" at the end 09.47.59 # badger, bookmark threads you need to watch? 09.48.11 # Bagder: if you wouldn't mind, maybe you can email her and ask her to fix the email thing? i just don't do forums at all 09.48.26 # I don't want to watch particular threads, I want to mark posts I want to reply to at a later time 09.48.28 # Bagder, just subscribe to forums? 09.48.42 # meh 09.48.48 # Bagder, individual posts? 09.48.51 # yes 09.48.55 # hmm 09.48.58 # which forums? 09.49.10 # forums.rockbox.org 09.49.17 # when i read all posts, i prefer to write a response then and there 09.49.33 # I used to do that 09.49.39 # but these days I get more than I can reply to 09.49.49 # hmm 09.49.51 # so I have to scan through them all first, then select what to act on 09.49.52 # do you still read every post? 09.49.56 # no 09.49.59 # ah 09.50.06 # yeah...it makes a difference if you do 09.50.07 # * CerebroJD wonders if thats an invision board 09.50.10 # * JdGordon would go crazy reading every poost on the forums 09.50.19 # CerebroJD: SMF 09.50.20 # * amiconn stopped reading the forums quite a while ago 09.50.29 # I just read the threads that sound interesting 09.50.35 # which is just a small fraction 09.50.41 # JdGordon: it isnt that bad unless you skip 2 days or more 09.50.53 # Simply too much jabber to follow. I only read posts I get pointed to 09.52.00 # yeah, but then again, i am more support than you are, and you are more dev than i am ;) 09.53.58 # true :) 09.54.07 # holy crap... slooooow forums 09.54.29 # * Bagder is poster #4 on the forums 09.55.04 # CerebroJD: they tend to vary speedwise, no idea why 09.55.13 # i'm sure there are no blind people using the forum :-P 09.55.27 # the blinds are on the users mailing list 09.55.43 # saw that image to verify? 09.55.43 # clearly ;-) 09.56.04 # it has BLUE TEXt on a BLUE BACKGROUND (for me) 09.56.11 Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) 09.56.19 # yeah, we try to keep you out of there ;-P 09.56.20 # and no voice button 09.56.31 # side topic... damn debian is bloated 09.56.44 # i'm not blind but i may become blind from using the forum :-P 09.56.45 # if you get it all, sure 09.56.55 # my debian is not bloated 09.57.23 # JdGordon: wtf? mine isn't. you just don't know how to install a base system and work up from there 09.57.27 # just doing a basic install with noothing but base, heaps of crap that ill uninstall aas soon as its finished 09.57.29 # ;) 09.57.39 # JdGordon: try slackware ;) 09.57.42 # JdGordon: yeah, you get some crap you can delete 09.57.47 # or LFS :-P 09.57.53 # no...just slackware 09.58.03 # hmm 09.58.05 # Bagder: Did you make the party mode? 09.58.12 # is the UI customizable in Rockbox? 09.58.16 # nls: no, Zagor did 09.58.22 # the base does have some stuff that can get deleted but it isn't as bad as Fedora/Redhat 09.58.28 # CerebroJD: only the WPS and general backgruond 09.58.29 # amen 09.58.43 # hmm 09.58.47 # oh, just wondering if music is supposed to stop when entering recording or radio screens? 09.59.27 # is the voice UI enabled by default? or do i need to do some spiffyness? 09.59.29 # n1s: I guess for party mode, those should perhaps not even be possible to enter... but I'm not sure 09.59.31 # :) 09.59.58 # Bagder: yes I thought so, because it wont let you kaunch a plugin... 10.00.13 # launch 10.00.17 # * JdGordon off to see borat 10.00.24 # haha 10.00.29 # "Itsa Niiiice!" 10.02.09 # mick_home: Voice menus are enabled by default (of course you need to install a voice file as well) 10.02.25 # cool 10.02.41 # i want mine to fully charge before trying it out 10.02.50 # i need to get rid of the HFS stuff too 10.08.13 # well, the guy still hasnt given me his email address yet, so i guess i will just have to send the next (and most likely last) mail through ebay 10.08.25 # also, if you notice, http://www.spidersoftware.de/pimpMyIPod/ is gone 10.19.11 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 10.22.53 Join webguest24 [0] (i=7ded727b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b88441b0b2ac831b) 10.27.42 # * CerebroJD . o O ( "" ) 10.27.47 # whoah wtf 10.27.48 Quit webguest24 (Client Quit) 10.27.50 # hmm 10.27.52 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c80-216-155-218.bredband.comhem.se) 10.27.56 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.54.40 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 10.57.37 Join powr-toc [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 10.58.34 Join pixelma [0] (i=54bd79a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 10.59.01 Quit God__Eater (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.02.09 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 11.02.27 # btw, can someone put in an extra
where the forum image comes in? something w/ a bg of white 11.02.45 # blue text on blue background wasn't the brightest idea 11.03.08 # also a sound version would be good for the visually impared 11.04.01 # mick_home: there is a button that lets you hear the characters (at least there was 2..3 months ago 11.04.13 # nope 11.04.45 # oh shit - in size 1em there it is! 11.04.45 # (I used it when I registered because I wasn't sure about one of them) 11.04.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.01 # tiny ass text 11.05.19 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 11.05.55 # i'm surprised that whoever set it up didn't once walk through it themselves :-P 11.06.06 # mick_home: on screen readers which the blind use, the font size does not matter 11.06.39 # for non-visually impared people like myself - it does :-P 11.08.01 # you started this topic of discussion for the visually impaired....people who can see alright have nothing to do with it 11.09.28 Join God__Eater [0] (n=kate_sho@host-83-146-15-234.bulldogdsl.com) 11.10.07 # JdGordon: interested in my findings about your settings patch? 11.10.10 # scorche: what you just said makes no sense what so ever 11.10.25 Quit midgey (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.10.31 # btw - ssl support would be nice for a login 11.10.35 # i get an error 11.11.13 # mick_home: and you mentioning that it isnt proper design for people with decent vision made more sense? 11.11.18 # that was my whole point 11.11.32 # "forums.rockbox.org has sent an incorrect or unexpected message. Error Code: -12263" 11.11.56 # greek to me :-/ (don't you love errors that make no sense?) 11.12.06 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 11.12.39 # scorche: accessability and usability are two very important things, that benefit all users 11.12.57 # i may not be visually impared but i'm getting there :-P 11.13.32 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.13.53 # then i suggest that when you are trying to make a case for visually impaired people, you do not throw one who does not apply into the mix 11.15.13 # scorche: wth are you talking about 11.15.27 # blue text on a blue background isn't the best idea for anyone to read 11.15.35 # never you mind...it isnt worth it...carry on 11.15.43 # we werent talking about that 11.15.51 # but alright... 11.16.30 # the 1em font thing? (the "workaround" for the unreadable random image)... this gets into usability -- and you are right, it makes little sense to discuss it 11.16.49 # better to fix than to bicker :) 11.17.05 # you really are not getting the point at all 11.17.19 # but i do not have the time to properly explain it i guess 11.17.20 # i think you are missing the point 11.17.23 # * scorche moves on 11.18.41 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 11.18.58 # if a person (like me) has problems with a user interface - other people will have it. the fact that i bring up accessability is merely because i work on accessable software, and know peopl who are visually impared. Also, near/far sighted and colorblind people make up the mix of "visually impared" not just blind people 11.19.43 # but you are right, better to move on... 11.21.13 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@84.150.75.33) 11.21.28 Part CerebroJD 11.23.05 Join niendo [0] (n=pkorfgen@p54B99B16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.23.53 # hi 11.24.17 # I have some question about rockbox on iriver h300 11.24.28 # shoot 11.25.19 # when I conncect my h340 to the power source it will boot with the iriver firmware 11.25.28 # and not with rockbox 11.25.55 # that is intended behaviour, but will probably be changed when (if) a new bootloader is released 11.26.37 # is there a workaround for this behavior? 11.26.56 # jhMikeS: ping? 11.27.05 # niendo: you can start rockbox and then connect the charger 11.27.55 # mh,, this doesnt work, because I have some trouble with the Batteries 11.28.19 Quit amiconn (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 11.28.24 # install new ones? 11.28.24 # their are alwasy empty 11.29.15 # * n1s already put a new battery on the christmas wishlist :-) 11.29.22 # Ok, so I'm waiting for the next bootloader release... 11.29.41 # don't hold your breath... 11.30.58 # * petur thinks of new battery and 80GB disk if he can find one 11.31.35 # I had the device already send to iriver but they were not able to fix it. 11.33.06 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@82.52.147.130) 11.38.21 # * petur discovered that when you put your mics next to the bass player monitor speakers you end up taping mostly bass :) 11.38.48 # guess you learn something every day :-) 11.39.06 # good for me learning to play bass... 11.42.06 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 11.45.16 Quit Kingstone (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.56.48 Quit pixelma ("lunch") 12.04.30 Quit niendo (Remote closed the connection) 12.08.28 # the manual mentions the "fonts package" being located here: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 12.08.38 # no such package as far as i can see 12.08.41 # jhMikeS: if you read the log: I had a crash at the end of a recording yesterday. After recording almost 100 minutes I pressed stop and after a short pauze it gave me (if I remember correctly) I04 at 00000002. It turned out it had saved the file ok, including the header. 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(2) probablly a path problem, shhuold be easy to fix 13.46.09 # 2 is fixed 13.46.12 # anythign else? 13.46.26 # ill save this log and fix it tomrow hopefuly 13.47.54 # that's what I found so far... will test further 13.48.06 # ta 13.51.37 # pixelma: you are working on the docs? 13.51.51 # a bit 13.52.03 # mind if i write some patches? 13.52.24 # help is welcome :) 13.52.24 # or are particular people working on certain parts? 13.52.46 # i am still getting the LaTeX from cvs 13.52.54 # mick_home, you can have a look at the ManualTodo page 13.53.07 # will do 13.53.12 # it lists some people who wanted to work on certain parts 13.53.28 # ... which doesn't mean not to work on those ;-) 13.54.33 # lol, i know how that is ;) 13.54.43 # i've seen some obvious things 13.54.55 # like the HFS+ to FAT32 part in the front 13.55.07 # the red fixmes are pretty obvious 13.55.09 # :-) 13.55.20 # and the missing link to the fonts package 13.55.31 # i'm going through it page for page 13.55.33 # correct, rasher generated an overview over the fixme parts some time ago 13.55.48 # as a user first (still haven't installed it on my nano) ;) 13.55.53 # I should update that.. I believe I even made a script to generate it 13.56.40 # pretty much, i was thinking i'd add parts that i thought were missing or parts that confused me i'd clarify and send patches out to one of you to review 13.56.43 # missing link to the fonts? There is one in advanced topics ... 13.57.01 # it was one of the first pages 13.57.12 # and on the installation section as well 13.57.16 # mick_home: Post the patches on the tracker. 13.57.25 # ya, the bts 13.57.35 # but if you found it missing somewhere please post patches ;) 13.57.52 # tht is the plan 13.57.59 # great 13.58.20 # now to find docs on HFS to FAT32 conversion :-P 13.58.58 # Which reminds me.. I believe there are quite a few updated languages waiting in the tracker.. 13.59.10 # LatexGuidelines may be also interesting to you (if you haven't found it already) 14.01.07 # bluebrother: you also realize that 130+ pages is a bit hard to swallow for the "average user" ;) 14.01.38 # a "getting started in 10 minutes" guide would be nice :) 14.01.44 # It's not really meant to be read front to back 14.01.54 # I believe a "getting started" section is being worked on? 14.01.59 # well, so it seems anyway 14.02.03 # sure. That's why I started with the "quick start" some time ago 14.02.17 # the "browsing and playing" chapter covers the basics pretty well 14.02.45 # there are about 40 pages on plugins. The average user most likely can simply skip them 14.02.52 # as the "advanced topics" 14.03.01 # well ya, i found that the install section was small and same w/ the section on how to use it 14.03.25 # when i saw the manual, i stopped what i was doing 14.03.33 # * bluebrother runs off -- back in a couple of minutes 14.03.43 # i was just thinking "oh damnit, i will be working on this all night" 14.04.01 Join luckz [0] (n=luckz@luckz.de) 14.04.02 # then i realized that it wasn't *that* big 14.04.08 # it was just too much fluff 14.04.46 # a "getting started sheet" r something would be nice for the user not to think it will take all night to setup 14.04.55 # i guess taht is what the wiki is for thoug 14.05.26 # Actually, I think the wiki should in many areas be replaced by the manual 14.05.54 # The nice thing about having the manual in LaTeX is that we could build different types of manuals from the same source tree - e.g. something like a "quick start" manual and a "Rockbox reference". 14.05.55 # as nice as the wiki is, the manual is easier to track and manage 14.07.47 # i will do what i can 14.07.53 # the sun is up, i must go to bed ;) 14.20.09 # hmm. We could add a quickstart sheet that is limited to one page and somewhere in the appendix. 14.20.37 # so users who only want to have this could rip it off the manual. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.32.50 Quit vanberge ("Leaving") 16.54.56 Join sureWN [0] (n=sure@cpc5-hem13-0-0-cust676.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 17.04.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.23 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.14.42 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 17.20.26 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.20.41 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 17.24.16 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964B21.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.27.07 Join XcoRe [0] (i=jahadu@84-217-118-2.tn.glocalnet.net) 17.27.53 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 17.29.33 Quit XcoRe (Client Quit) 17.39.48 Quit sureWN () 17.49.18 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 17.50.01 Quit Rob2222 () 17.54.35 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17E5C.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.00.21 Join t0dk0n [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-132-6-57.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 18.00.33 # D= My ipod keeps going into read only mode >_< 18.00.48 # so I can't copy or delete anything 18.01.00 # does anyone know how to fix this problemo? 18.01.09 # running linux, and 5g ipod 18.01.39 # Your ipod doesn't go into read-only mode, it's linux doing this 18.01.51 # ah, thought so hehe 18.01.56 # This points towards a filesystem error on your ipod'd hd 18.02.48 # is there anyway to fix this? like see the log output of filesystem errors? 18.03.25 # fsck.vfat /dev/sda2 or something like that on root 18.03.34 # without it being mounted 18.03.34 # :p 18.03.44 # haha alright 18.05.38 # ... it refuses to find it 18.06.57 # grrrgle 18.07.11 # oh well, I'll deal with it later 18.07.12 # well it finds it to mount it doesn't it? 18.07.16 # yeah 18.07.23 # then it should find it to fsck it 18.07.29 # if you have the fsck program for it of course 18.07.34 # hahaha I love that command 18.07.35 # and you're telling it the same device that you'd mount 18.07.45 # heh :p 18.08.18 # ahh, hmm... maybe I'll try unplugging it, restarting it into original firmware, then plugging it back in 18.09.16 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.11.09 # lammmme... "superblock isn't able to be read or describe a correct ext2 filesystem" 18.11.13 # should i repair it? 18.11.37 # is it supposed to be ext2? 18.11.47 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.11.47 # oh yeah, good point 18.11.55 # wrong fsck :p 18.11.58 # too tired, I'm used to ext2 over vfat :P 18.12.04 Join webguest31 [0] (i=415fb1a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9810f090eef181be) 18.12.08 # hi 18.12.31 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 18.12.34 # does any one know when the 3.0 or 3.1 of rockbox will be out? 18.13.06 # ze: peculiar, my distro didn't ship with fsck.vfat :( 18.13.17 # i don't think many do 18.13.27 # hello? 18.13.29 # most people fsck their vfats from win typically i think 18.13.33 # anyone know? 18.13.35 # webguest31: it wont be determined... don't bother asking... 18.13.41 # omg 18.13.49 # its open source software, noob! 18.13.56 # t0dk0n: check for a dosfstools package or ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/LOCAL/dosfstools/ 18.13.58 # your a noob 18.14.06 # ze: thanks :) 18.14.06 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 18.14.15 # webguest: very mature 18.14.17 # t0dk0n: i *think* its got one, anyway :p 18.14.21 # haha 18.14.32 # nubish!!!! ds-x rules!!!!! wii rocks the socks!!!!!!!! 18.14.32 # bye!!!! 18.14.40 # heh 18.14.41 # 0_o... 18.14.43 # troll 18.14.56 # if there's no 3.0 why would there be a 3.1? 18.15.02 # tell ya what, 4.2 will be out tomorrow! 18.15.03 # :p 18.15.26 # and they'll release 5.7 the next day 18.15.46 # but then they'll take 3 years before they make another release, and that'll be 5.71 18.16.24 # lol 18.16.26 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.16.40 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 18.18.20 Join dau [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 18.18.22 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.19.24 Quit dau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.19.40 Quit webguest31 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.19.45 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 18.20.17 # * t0dk0n blinks... 18.20.28 # I think my whole Linux system is fscked up 18.20.29 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) 18.20.36 # I can't even untar 18.20.47 # grrr... I gotta run, thank you for the help ze ^_^ 18.21.16 Quit t0dk0n ("Leaving.") 18.22.52 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.25.33 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.25.53 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 18.35.36 # Can anyone give me a link to simple math expression parser in C??? 18.35.37 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 18.36.22 # Gnelik: ffmpeg has one 18.37.21 # ??? 18.37.35 # Is there anything that isn't in ffmpeg? 18.38.26 # linuxstb: :) 18.39.00 # :) But seriously, why is that in ffmpeg? 18.39.30 Join Kingstone [0] (i=GPool@87.69.63.162.cable.012.net.il) 18.39.43 # Can't see it there.. 18.39.45 # linuxstb: it is for the ratecontroller, you can put in your own equation 18.40.50 # Gnelik: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC15 <-- is this what you need ? 18.41.32 # YEP 18.41.46 # but now i need to find it in source 18.44.16 # hi 18.50.09 # hah, cool 18.50.59 # * preglow decides to do the monthly whatever-happened-to-aac check 18.53.18 # no more clues, as usual 18.54.16 Join dau [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 18.57.21 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.59.18 # You mean the ffmpeg AAC implementation? 18.59.28 Quit dau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.59.34 # aye 18.59.46 Join dau [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 19.01.55 # There was some work done, but I guess it wasn't finished enough to be included in the main ffmpeg cvs/svn. 19.02.08 Quit niskel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.02.43 # that is correct, the student working on it got drafted to the army 19.03.06 Join niskel [0] (n=niskel@fctnnbsc15w-156034095243.nb.aliant.net) 19.03.46 # haha 19.03.53 # which country is he living in? 19.05.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.05.34 # or so he said 19.05.46 # Russia 19.06.04 # right 19.06.13 # know what shape the code is in? 19.06.36 # I didn't mentor it, but I think it's quite good 19.06.44 # * amiconn is still waiting for the promised speex codec ;) 19.07.19 # should work with most lc samples 19.08.33 # Not fixed-point, I *think*, from some of the commits I saw... 19.10.45 # amiconn: oh, it's in the tracker, and i think it even compiles nicely now 19.10.51 # correct, not fixedpoint 19.11.16 # i've got this weird feeling that it won't be too hard to fixedpointify it 19.11.23 # but might very easily be wrong 19.15.27 # FS patch committed for 5.5G :) 19.16.36 # Can i use mallloc in plugins? 19.16.53 # if you can use static allocation, no 19.17.11 # but if you really need to allocate a big buffer, you can steal the playback buffer 19.17.18 # or use smaller plugin malloc buf 19.17.22 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.17.59 # preglow: prove it :) 19.18.03 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 19.20.00 Quit JoeBorn ("bears game") 19.20.32 # Does *my_malloc from searchengine is usefull? 19.22.43 Quit dau (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.22.44 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 19.25.03 # It tells than it couldn't find `audio_buffer_free' 19.29.00 Join menosm [0] (n=menosm@user-11fa2mp.dsl.mindspring.com) 19.29.03 Quit menosm (Client Quit) 19.31.47 Join idoomed [0] (n=darkness@ip68-105-169-170.ga.at.cox.net) 19.32.20 # hey i have a nano how do i play videos on it using rock box 19.32.28 Quit God__Eater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.35.46 Nick myzar is now known as myzar|away (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 19.37.57 # Can anyone help me to port eval from ffmpeg to rockbox 19.38.24 # memory managment is difficult for me 19.39.47 Join webguest95 [0] (i=55d2a041@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6995042905980ee9) 19.40.25 # Slasheri: what does the new 5.5g FS code actually mean for people wanting to use rockbox on a new ipod? 19.40.47 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46B7B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.42.23 # Slasheri: Funny typo: "Some never players..." 19.43.58 # webguest95: I think it means it works... (on the 30GB) 19.44.26 # Slasheri: Yellow builds! 19.44.30 # can a ipod nano with rockbox play videos 19.44.54 Join Guest52768 [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 19.45.41 # idoomed: See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 19.45.52 # Slasheri: ...and the code is not only enabled for ipod video. :-( Why else would it break rombox for recorder? 19.46.02 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.46.03 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.46.12 # idoomed: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginVideo 19.48.21 # Slasheri: Also, shouldn't MAX_SECTOR_SIZE be in the config*.h files, rather than fat.h ? Or maybe enabled by something like HAVE_LARGE_SECTORS? 19.50.07 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.213.37) 19.50.29 # Gnelik: PluginVideo is the video player for the Archos Recorders and Ondio. 19.50.59 # ya not nano so i guess the nano cant play video with rockbox 19.50.59 # Gnelik: ups. sory. 19.51.43 # linuxstb: can you help me with porting memory managmeent to rockbox??? 19.51.55 # What's the problem you're having? 19.52.04 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7561.0 19.52.31 # linuxstb: I want to write plot builder plugin. 19.53.54 Quit lini (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.54.10 # when i downloaded a nano .rockbox file it cam with a mpeg player but i cant figure out how to use it 19.54.11 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 19.54.54 # You don't say what the problem is. Rockbox doesn't have the standard malloc/free functions, so you'll either have to implement them yourself, or rewrite that eval library so it doesn't need malloc/free. 19.55.03 # idoomed: See the link I posted about 6 lines ago... 19.55.17 # (sorry, 13 lines ago...) 19.55.26 # the fourms one 19.55.41 # linuxstb: hmm, yes. in fact config.h sounds better place for that 19.56.04 # ok 19.56.11 Quit Guest52768 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.56.29 # If I get a compile-time error in 'common/file.c' .. That would have nothing to do with rockbox and all to do with my vmware image getting corrupted or something, right? 19.57.24 # do i need to convert the avi to the nano hight and with right 19.57.25 # PaulPosition: It could be the external (to the Rockbox source) include files being corrupted. 19.57.28 # idoomed: Yes. 19.58.08 # linuxtb - uhuh... thanks, that's about what I thought. 19.58.15 # ok converting now to avi season 3 of rvb 19.59.12 # idoomed: You need to convert to either MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 video with the correct size, and it also needs to be an "MPEG video elementary stream" - i.e. not multiplexed as .avi or .mpg. 19.59.31 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.59.44 # linuxstb: any thougths? 19.59.46 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 19.59.52 # hm this may take a while hay im using a trial verson of a program and only converst 50% of the file do u know where to download one that converts the whole thing 20.01.40 # oh im new to irc how can i make myown channel 20.02.25 # idoomed: Did you read the PluginMpegplayer wiki page? That has some instructions for using free software to convert videos. 20.02.27 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.02.36 # oh 20.02.38 # ok 20.02.40 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 20.02.49 # :) 20.02.56 # Bagder! 20.03.03 # * zylche throws water on the Bagder.. 20.03.45 Quit kubiix ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.05.43 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.05.44 Join phlasphy [0] (n=Ash@CPE-58-170-62-104.qld.bigpond.net.au) 20.05.46 # for anyone that knows: is iAudio fast in doing a repair? my x5's joystick right button just busted (mush with no click and stuck going right)...argh. 20.05.49 # hey all 20.05.53 Join dau [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 20.06.17 # there were a few guys in here that had that thing where there ears alwas ringing 20.06.35 # are any of them here now? 20.06.46 # my ears ring at times.. 20.06.51 # at times 20.06.54 # For some odd reason so does my phone though.. 20.07.10 # im not to goog with dos what dose this mean 20.07.14 # Press START on your taskbar, choose RUN and type in the box (minus quotes): "command" You should now be looking at a command prompt. If you don't know basic DOS commands, here is what you need to know: Use 'cd' to change dir (format: cd [dir]) IE: "cd .." to go UP one, "cd ROCKBOX" to enter a path "ROCKBOX" 20.07.28 # i got the command prompt up 20.07.43 # zylche, do they ring when you are not on the phone? 20.07.55 # no, my ears only ring when my phone starts rining 20.07.58 # *ringing 20.08.03 # it's really annoying and weird.. 20.08.08 # is this a joke 20.08.14 # Well, technicaly no.. 20.08.20 # It's the truth.. 20.08.27 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-16-186.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 20.08.33 # :))) 20.08.34 # well is it the phone going RING RING RING 20.08.38 # hey can some one help me plz 20.08.43 # ..I never thought of that! 20.08.48 # FFS 20.08.50 Part phlasphy ("Leaving") 20.08.57 Join Moos [0] (i=d9805c3e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4498c1fd58f12fd7) 20.10.44 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.208.144) 20.11.25 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 20.11.41 Quit XavierGr () 20.12.07 # linuxstb: Tell me please what i must do or give some example 20.12.59 # Use 'cd' to change dir (format: cd [dir]) IE: "cd .." to go UP one, "cd ROCKBOX" to enter a path "ROCKBOX" 20.13.23 Join phlasphy [0] (n=Ash@CPE-58-170-62-104.qld.bigpond.net.au) 20.13.33 # i dont get this the dir is on mydesktop in a folder called video what do i type 20.14.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial#How_To_Convert_AVI_to_RVF_Window 20.14.46 # nvm NOW it wants to work 20.14.47 # zylche, i am sorry all i am hearing is ringing in my ears 20.15.09 # what? 20.15.26 # um evry now and then it happens to me on a scale of 1-10 how loud is it 20.15.43 # umm 10 being what 20.16.19 # Gnelik: are you trying to write a gnuplot type app on rockbox? 20.16.55 # idoomed, i cant really tell the volume it is just there? 20.17.43 # webguest95: not so powerfull 20.17.58 # not the worst idea ever 20.18.09 # at least it'll be faster than my ti-89 :) 20.18.30 # i'm certainly interested. Any way i can help? 20.18.57 # webguest95: Wee need to begin at first :) 20.19.07 Join rmrmg [0] (n=rmrmg@xdsl-2613.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl) 20.19.16 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.19.30 # right 20.19.42 # um try not to thik about it ya know do somting else that SOMETIMES helps me 20.20.07 Quit webguest95 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.20.18 # idoomed, :( hope it goes away 20.20.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host130-147.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 20.21.15 # uh? my ears arnt riging right now 20.21.31 # webguest95: The firs thing is to implent 2d plots. 20.21.34 # i heard some peoples do it constantly 20.21.45 # For this we need expression parser i think 20.23.09 # my ears always ring 20.23.12 # the little buggers 20.23.44 # well it is not really my ears if i block my ears i still hear it at the same volume 20.23.46 # :( 20.24.04 # i think everyone has some degree of tinnitus 20.24.29 # sure, you won't get rid of it 20.24.33 # better just get used to it 20.24.42 # hello, i have iriver H340 and rockbox 03.12.2006 and i found bug, after the last song in dir the player switch off instead of go to next dir 20.24.49 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p5484A66C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.24.53 # i just noticed it :( 20.25.07 # preglow: you were gonna make pitch and time stretching independently controllable? I read it and wanted to ask but I've been busy busy. 20.25.34 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different") 20.25.38 # jhMikeS: well, there's no point in disallowing it. i don't think it'll be any harder than just allowing both at once 20.26.03 # * petur points jhMikeS to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6409 :) 20.26.03 # this problem was also in rockbox 29.11.2006 but about 1 mounts ago everything was ok 20.28.04 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.28.14 # petur: thanks :) 20.28.34 # you're welcome ;) 20.29.01 # got me scared for a moment but the file was ok (phew) 20.29.08 # petur: absolutely sure it's I04 (if you remember correctly :)? 20.29.20 # I think it was, yes 20.29.31 # brb 20.29.33 # but not absolutely... 20.30.42 # obviously the problems very very late in the process :\ 20.31.13 # or related with me trying to stop/shutdown asap 20.31.58 # uh.. real life interrupt, back in 30mins (I hope) 20.32.10 Join dandelo [0] (n=Mr@cpe-65-189-40-82.cinci.res.rr.com) 20.32.12 # it should be able to have the button pressed rapidly with no problem. were you using voice? I04 is IllInstr. 20.32.47 Quit phlasphy ("Leaving") 20.34.13 # preglow: what sort of algorithm? I remeber something about it being time domain, not frequency. 20.34.53 Quit TeaSea (Connection timed out) 20.37.01 # jhMikeS: it basically just slices audio into frames of n samples, then overlaps them at positions deemed the most suitable by an autocorrelation analysis 20.37.19 Quit dau (Connection timed out) 20.37.23 # the resamples to achieve the desired effect 20.37.27 # s/the/then/ 20.38.18 # google soundstretch 20.38.23 # gpl lib we can base our code on 20.39.27 Quit PaulPosition () 20.40.52 # hey how do i make myown channel on irc 20.41.59 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.16 # idoomed: you join it 20.43.12 # thats it but dont i need to put a bot there so its always there 20.44.34 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17912.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.44.35 # dunno how it works on freenode, see what services chanserv has 20.44.47 # /msg chanserv help 20.44.48 # or something 20.45.05 # freenode probably has some other help channel for this anyway, i suggest you find it 20.45.43 # is there a website i can go to that gives me all of this kind of info 20.46.02 # google freenode 20.46.30 Join pixelma [0] (i=54bd7753@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 20.46.32 Quit pixelma (Remote closed the connection) 20.46.48 # ok 20.48.09 Join heyJulius [0] (n=heyJuliu@67.84-48-110.nextgentel.com) 20.48.37 # The clips basically sound pretty good. The bad ones are tempo slowdowns (closet echo sound). 20.49.09 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC") 20.49.32 # can't be avoided with time-domain techniques 20.49.38 # and even barely by freqdomain ones 20.53.05 # jhMikeS: voice not enabled but I do have a voice file present in the lang dir (so the buffer is reserved iirc) 20.54.19 # petur: that's enough to cause the codec to load and swap 20.54.34 # is it? 20.54.58 # All voice is disabled in settings 20.55.22 # yes...if the file's present then it makes provisions for the possibility of voice being turned on later 20.55.39 # right 20.55.49 # * petur moves voice file away 20.58.01 Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.59.17 # * jhMikeS wishes petur wrote down the exception details 20.59.46 # heh... in the middle of a concert doing stealth taping... sure 20.59.49 Quit zylche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.00.04 # we really should bundle the .map file with rockbox.zip 21.01.10 # * petur moves voice file back and tries to reproduce some more 21.01.40 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.02.26 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 21.04.33 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 21.05.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.05.04 # someone else metioned a problem after very long recordings. the recording just does the same stuff over and over. I wonder if something's timing out and causing code to run that shouldn't be running at the time. 21.06.17 # Ethical question; if selling an AJBR on eBay, would it be reasonable to sell it with "runs Rockbox" a selling feature and supply it with Rockbox still installed? 21.06.39 Join dau [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 21.06.43 # can't see why not 21.06.58 # I will, of course link to rockbox.org on the listing... 21.06.58 # interesting development here, jhMikeS... it froze now 21.07.27 # petur: with the voice file? 21.07.35 # what kind of file dose the mpeg player play on the nano cause i cant get it to work 21.08.05 # yes... have it record quite a bit (2 mins or 21MB here), then long press stop (shutdown), release and press stop (once or more, must still check) 21.09.10 # and settings not getting saved is a pita 21.09.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial#How_To_Convert_AVI_to_RVF_Window 21.09.39 # i tried this but it didne work ^^^^^^^^^^ 21.10.45 Quit TeaSeaLancs (No route to host) 21.11.08 # petur: was the file ok after that? 21.11.16 # must check 21.11.28 # long stop + short stop worked ok 21.11.56 # yup, file was OK 21.13.34 # settings aren't saved when shutting down from inside the menu. has this really always been like that (like amiconn said). it's crap 21.14.11 # idoomed, that page clearly states that it is only for the old archos players, look at the page here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer and there's no sound for video. 21.14.43 # jhMikeS: BINGO 21.14.50 # I just did long stop and it shut down while recording. I guess there's no query if it's ok to shut down :\ 21.15.01 # I0E:FormErr at 10001A4A 21.15.14 # that's the same as the last? 21.15.26 # just holding stop during recording 21.15.41 # it's not what I had last night 21.20.28 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 21.22.53 Quit akaias (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.07 # is there a way to see if a daily build has certain patches applied, whitout reading every changelog? 21.23.22 # sure 21.23.23 Quit idoomed () 21.23.31 # check the patch 21.23.38 # if it's closed and what date 21.23.42 # ok 21.23.52 # hmmm... what's in the 1000000 addresses again? 21.24.12 # looky look at mappy map? 21.24.38 # trying to find it...can look in the lds file 21.25.04 # ./build/apps/rockbox.map 21.25.29 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@76.16.18.102) 21.25.41 # iram/icode 21.26.04 # and the lot 21.26.38 # the address I gave seems to relate to DMA1 21.26.39 # thought so, wanted to be sure 21.26.54 # 0x100019c4 DMA1 21.26.58 # That exception has to do with the rte instruction 21.29.12 Quit daurn|laptop (Connection timed out) 21.31.13 # yeah, it's the last instruction in DMA1, the rte it appears 21.31.51 # should be the last, because 10001A4C is another block ;) 21.31.53 # DMA1 is 136 bytes and it's at offset 134 21.32.10 Join idoomed [0] (n=darkness@ip68-105-169-170.ga.at.cox.net) 21.32.11 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B172E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.32.30 # yawn hello again i had to reboot my pc 21.32.54 # my map is different, it's not the last in the last h300 build I made 21.33.14 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-68-109.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.33.48 # something I still don't know but should: what stack is used for an IRQ handler and where is it? 21.34.07 # ok how do i make a movie 4 my nano i alredy have seen this site i just need to convert some rvb to what ever format i need 21.34.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 21.36.32 # jhMikeS: I don't know about Coldfire, but on ARM, interrupt context has its own stack - initialised in crt0.S. 21.40.37 # hmmm...I had a problem with freezing on the H120 that moving the DMA1 callback pointer out of IRAM fixed (never found out why) but it seems something else is being trashed now that it's not there. 21.40.55 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.41.48 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 21.43.09 # * jhMikeS hopes iAudio is speedy with the repairs. Have to get the unit out Monday. It's just under the warranty of 1yr (purchased Dec. 21, 2005 !!) 21.43.40 Join GodEater [0] (n=kate_sho@host-84-9-15-16.bulldogdsl.com) 21.44.09 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-192-174.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 21.50.04 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.18 # petur: can you send me the map of your build? might tell me something maybe. 21.57.44 Quit dau (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.57.50 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 21.59.58 # http://users.telenet.be/petur/rockbox.map I'm not 100% sure it's the same but it should ;) 22.02.11 # which is why rockbox.zip should be made to include the .map file! 22.03.09 # preglow: good idea 22.04.40 # would pretty much help a ton for all bug reports which includes a crash address 22.04.46 # yes... good idea... it could be zipped inside the rockbox dir to reduce size... 22.04.56 # probably 22.05.02 # perhaps we should zip all map files, also the plugin ones :> 22.05.07 # 162 -> 25 KB 22.05.07 # and codec ones 22.08.47 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.09.06 Part fnord__ 22.09.09 # it would seem that the only thing that should get in and trash a level7 interrupt handler's stack should be the handler itself 22.11.14 # if something used by it isn't being corrupted elsewhere... :\ 22.12.19 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 22.12.34 Join webguest67 [0] (i=458d4b5c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.15.19 # hey do any of yall know what i need to do to install international firmware on my american H340 22.15.30 Join MadDog011 [0] (n=MadDog01@cable-87-116-153-230.dynamic.sbb.co.yu) 22.15.44 Quit MadDog011 (Remote closed the connection) 22.16.19 # webguest67: a set of hands and some will to do so 22.16.38 # afaik, there's no checks for firmware region 22.16.42 # it doesnt seem to recognize it in the root directory when i tell it to upgrade firmware 22.16.59 # it could be case sensitive 22.17.02 # i've had that problem on my h120, and i don't know what causes it 22.17.19 # FAT short/long names? 22.18.45 # i put the int'l firmware in the root directory, go to "firmware upgrade", but when i click yes nothing happens, it just returns to the menu 22.19.15 # hmm..interesting idea, i'll try changing that 22.19.55 # hey can i just use the rockbox.ipod file in the daily builds or do i need to re download the .rockbox file to 22.21.22 # idoomed: You need both. 22.21.33 # oh ok thanx 22.21.39 # ehy 22.21.44 # i mean why 22.22.11 Join Jestre [0] (n=ack@64.244.27.139) 22.22.12 # .rockbox contains all the plugins and codecs, which can change as well. 22.22.40 Quit webguest67 ("CGI:IRC") 22.22.42 # oh and where are the doom saves kept so i can keep them to 22.23.36 # oh and is this illegal because i use this site a bunch http://www.dll-files.com/ 22.23.37 # You don't need to delete your old .rockbox folder - just unzip the new version over the top. 22.23.48 # o kool 22.26.25 # and when i install a new daily build i still keep my themes and settings right 22.27.14 # themes, yes...settings may have to be reset from time to time with certain changes 22.27.58 # o thats fine 22.28.51 Join webguest67 [0] (i=458d4b5c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.29.06 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@160.228.157.232) 22.29.30 # hey, figured it out...i needed to format with the player interface, i had formatted it from windows (oops) and apparently it wasn't reading the root directory right 22.29.36 # vlc --sout=#transcode (this is on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer) where it says input what dose that mean (windows verson) and dose the file im converting have to be in that directory 22.30.26 # linuxstb: any reason why the mpegplayer patch that allows multiplexed streams to be played isn't commited? 22.30.31 Join webguest50 [0] (i=bdaa0e5b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 22.30.41 Quit webguest50 (Client Quit) 22.30.52 Join atmos1 [0] (i=bdaa0e5b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-98cf6469b13d3475) 22.33.40 # hi allç 22.33.52 Quit atmos1 (Client Quit) 22.34.17 Quit webguest67 ("CGI:IRC") 22.35.01 # back in a min 22.35.17 # petur: one thing I want to know is, you've haven't encountered any data loss like before since the BRP? I'm guessing you'd report that promptly :) 22.35.35 Quit idoomed (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.35.40 Quit MarcoPolo ("Bye !") 22.35.48 # I'll know it when I listen to it tomorrow ;) 22.35.56 # bbl 22.36.14 # preglow: Have we even decided that MPEG program streams will be the best choice of container format? 22.36.37 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 22.36.40 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 22.37.55 Join idoomed [0] (n=darkness@ip68-105-169-170.ga.at.cox.net) 22.38.07 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p5484A66C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.38.12 # kool i now have the latest build on my nano 22.38.27 # linuxstb: right, i didn't know we'd always go for transcoding 22.38.58 Join gelatinous [0] (i=1845c572@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d92ab9565b6777b9) 22.39.29 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.39.57 # does the matter of container format even matter that much? do we want anything else than video and audio? if not, then using whatever is standard sounds wise 22.42.01 # hey i need help encoding a movie (mpeg or mpg) 22.42.03 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD7C8B.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.42.11 Join Jerome_ [0] (n=chatzill@lns-bzn-30-82-253-184-41.adsl.proxad.net) 22.42.13 # We're starting an official add of video now? 22.42.20 # Using VLC to encode on Windows 22.42.20 # Open a command line prompt and go to the VLC installation directory (default is C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\ ). Run the following command line: 22.42.20 # vlc --sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp2v,vb=600,width=,height=}:es{access-video=file,mux-video=es,dst-video=.m2v} 22.42.34 # ok i need help with this 22.43.03 # its for a nano w 176 h 132 22.43.09 # jhMikeS: not exactly, just me throwing questions around 22.43.22 # do i put the file in that dir first 22.43.41 # preglow: There's issues such as ease of seeking and how the frames are packed. e.g. it would be desirable if the container format provided whole video/audio frames which could possibly mean we can avoid using memcpy. 22.44.18 # linuxstb: you know of any containers that do that? 22.44.19 # do i put the video in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC first 22.44.20 # I had some thoughts that the audio playback engine could do video codecs without much trouble 22.44.34 Quit Jerome_ (Client Quit) 22.44.57 # preglow: No, but I would like to investigate the options. 22.45.24 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 22.45.24 # jhMikeS: I agree - eventually we should integrate video playback into the main playback engine. 22.46.01 # hellllllllo 22.46.08 # jhMikeS: ISRs use whatever stack was active at the time 22.46.59 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.47.06 # linuxstb: they really don't have to do anything different exept have a place to render the video part :\ 22.47.19 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 22.47.32 # preglow: Including the .map in the distribution isn probably not a good idea 22.47.36 # They probably won't fit in the existing 512KB of codec buffer though - especially with the temporary buffers they need for decoding. 22.47.36 # amiconn: how come? 22.47.58 # If we do, we would in fact have to include all .map files (core, codecs, and plugins) 22.48.17 # But Bagder added code to the build scripts for collecting the .map files 22.48.20 # amiconn: maybe in another type of build for testers/devs? 22.48.21 # hellllllllllllo any can you help me 22.48.23 # amiconn: i don't see anything wrong with that, but why would we have to do that? 22.48.37 # There should be a place where we devs can pick up the matching .map files 22.48.45 # idoomed: don't you think someone would have helped you if they felt like it? 22.48.53 # preglow: .zip size.... 22.49.05 # amiconn: the main map itself would add around 30kb 22.49.08 # amiconn: not a big deal 22.49.19 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=nn@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust546.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 22.49.53 # amiconn: the most important map files to include would be main rockbox and codecs 22.51.05 # Not a big deal for people with broadband connections, but quite a deal if you're limited to modem / isdn / gprs 22.51.11 # amiconn: i don't care if the map files are bundled or whatever, as long as we can get them from some place 22.51.24 # And the user doesn't need the .map files anyway, the developers do 22.51.47 # they don't need them no, but i'm sure they'll appreciate having the info available to help fix a bug 22.52.03 # but like i said, i don't care if they're bundled, as long as i can get my hands on a correct map 22.52.04 # As long as the version string within rockbox is correct, it should be simple to pick up the correct .map files from elsewhere 22.52.07 # linuxstb: still seems a pretty straightforward path for the most part. audio can still go through the way it does now. 22.53.13 # * amiconn is about to commit the target tree completion for the ata driver 22.53.17 # jhMikeS: I'm pretty sure I agree with you. But developing mpegplayer to a working state seems to be the first step towards that. 22.53.29 # More than 700 lines extracted from ata.c and put in separate files :) 22.53.47 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.54.06 # linuxstb: that's definitely a good starting point :) 22.54.07 # Maybe I have to replace one of the new asm sources again in a few days 22.55.02 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 22.56.13 # Slasheri: You introduced a pretty obvious overflow bug in fat_size() 22.56.24 # amiconn: I'm wondering how anything could trash the DMA1 stack except the handler itself...either directly or by it using data corrupted at another time and place. 22.56.36 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 22.56.45 # jhMikeS: COuld be almost anything... 22.57.11 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@63-226-213-147.tukw.qwest.net) 22.58.33 # is there anything else that can execute when in the handler besides the handler (since it's level 7). 22.59.06 # No, but what if memory is already trashed before? 23.00.33 Join dau [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126) 23.00.34 Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.01.26 # that's the other possibility I meant and that means DMA1 would have to have trashed data that causes it's execution to be faulty? 23.02.56 Quit midkay (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.04.21 Quit rmrmg ("Lost terminal") 23.05.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.05 # so what was your question, idoomed? 23.05.23 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 23.05.44 # replace with the name (or full path) of the input file. 23.06.11 # replace with the width of your screen 23.06.23 # replace with the height of your screen 23.06.43 # filename? 23.06.48 # replace with the name you wish to call your output file 23.07.01 # amiconn, preglow, petur: do we have a wiki page describing the coding style for rockbox? I'm searching but can't find it. 23.07.25 # ok thanks dose this work with a mpg file 23.07.27 # the contributing page 23.07.41 # markun: what there is is in docs/CONTRIBUTING too 23.08.06 # very little (too little for my taste) is specified 23.08.17 # idoomed: I assume VLC can take MPEG1 or 2 video as input. 23.08.28 # i can take almost everything 23.08.30 # it too 23.08.50 # is rockbox.org slow or should I give my ISP a bad look? 23.09.00 # the forums are very slow right now. 23.09.16 # preglow: ok, gotthardt in #gigabeat was asking about doxygen comments 23.09.17 # markun: http://www.rockbox.org/docs/contributing.html 23.09.41 # markun: nothing says you can't use those, and i myself would like to see people use them more 23.10.03 # if only because i really miss that kind of documentation in rockbox 23.11.03 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-251-153.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 23.13.51 # hey i noticed in the rock doom plugin theres an addon folder whats that for 23.14.14 # i mean what can i put there cheats,mods,etc 23.14.16 Join jba___ [0] (n=jba@postoffice.rogen.com.au) 23.17.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom 23.17.44 Nick jba___ is now known as jba (n=jba@postoffice.rogen.com.au) 23.18.56 # oh ya i forgot to check there thanks 23.20.36 # ok the wad i got in here goes in addons right http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=11 23.25.26 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.26.05 Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-7-11.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 23.26.41 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 23.26.58 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 23.32.42 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 23.34.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp44-69.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.35.23 # Slasheri!! 23.35.32 # is not here 23.35.55 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 23.36.33 # * jhMikeS notices amiconn says that alot :) 23.36.39 Quit heyJulius ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.36.56 # hrmh 23.37.13 # * linuxstb notices amiconn says that a lot as well 23.37.20 # hrmh 23.37.26 # is not here 23.37.33 # * Bagder notices people saying hrmh 23.37.37 # hrmh 23.37.39 # you do? 23.37.40 # hrmh 23.37.57 # * petur thinks amiconn found a bug 23.38.16 # Even in spite of the danger of someone pointing out that I say another thing often: I wonder whether people _test_ their changes before commit 23.38.53 # I usually do. The fat.c changes don't look like they're thoroughly tested 23.39.14 # Isn't that what "users" are for? :-D 23.39.31 # Hrrm :( 23.39.43 # * petur slaps n1s around with a fat bug 23.40.16 # * n1s hides 23.41.09 # * zylche gives nls a blanket of hiding 23.42.03 # FAT bugs can be nasty. 23.42.17 # * amiconn wonders whether n1s would like a silently corrupted filesystem 23.42.38 # of course! 23.42.40 # at least he pointed out they're possible in his commit message 23.42.40 # heh 23.42.54 # preglow: That's not his best defence... 23.43.11 # anyway, gnight. 23.43.16 Part n1s 23.43.17 # preglow: The bad thing is that there are suspicious things in it which are built for _all_ ata targets 23.43.19 # critical code should be tested and reviewed before commit 23.43.21 # Not just G5.5 23.43.23 # amiconn: how likely is a corrupted filesystem hapenning? 23.43.25 # * zylche fails to mention the blanket also fails to hide people, more knock them out... 23.43.37 # same goes for the settings rework 23.44.15 # preglow: The 2 things I fixed locally are not of the corruption type, but the simple fact of pretty obvious bugs being present makes the changes suspect 23.44.48 # Hah, and Slasheri broke rombox for the Ondio 23.45.14 # * amiconn thinks of fulfilling his promise :grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: 23.45.26 # if you feel this strongly about, then revert it 23.45.33 # sitting here yelling for slasheri will do no good 23.46.02 # DAMN YOU SLASHERI! YOU STOLE MY PICNIC BASKET! 23.46.34 # it is nearly twelve and at least some chance he'll be sleeping, so you might be sitting here yelling for a long time 23.46.39 # * petur is happy he didn't break rombox :) 23.46.55 # beware of the wrath of amiconn 23.47.29 # DAMN YOU SLASERI! YOU MADE ME YELL ALL NIGHT! 23.47.42 Quit mirak (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.47.44 # please stop the yelling 23.48.05 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.48.10 # I also wonder why file.c needs to be changed at all. It should be able to work on 512 byte sectors the same way as before 23.48.52 # It worked on sectors before, and the unit of calculation on a fat file system has always been clusters, which are most of the time larger than one sector 23.49.20 # can rombox take an enhancement of the philips tuner tuning/searching? it's very solid in that regard but adds a little size. 23.49.40 # * preglow thinks we should stop worrying about rombox when coding rockbox... 23.50.28 # the poor little thing needs a fork 23.50.34 # * pixelma thinks that rombox could be a good reminder to keep code efficiant and clean.... 23.50.39 # * jhMikeS feels obligated to ask since some really like it 23.50.40 # The code, as-is, looks like it might break very easily on G5.5. Putting multiple 2K sector buffers on the stack cannot be good 23.51.03 # pixelma: a reminde which obviously doesn't work 23.51.06 # preglow: That sounds like a very bad suggestion 23.51.17 # amiconn: depends on your viewpoint ;) 23.51.32 # The archos isn't even the target with the tightest memory requirements 23.51.42 # Think about the iFP 23.51.48 # 1MB, and SWCODEC 23.52.35 # haha 23.52.39 # like i said, depends on your viewpoint 23.52.48 Quit idoomed () 23.52.56 # I can't see the funniness in that, sorry 23.53.52 # then you take this way too seriously 23.54.02 # anywho, this is about my bedtime 23.54.03 # * petur agrees with the clean/efficient viewpoint 23.54.05 # Rockbox is multi-platform 23.54.07 # see you all later 23.54.19 # ..and one of the main principles is KISS 23.54.23 # * petur also agrees with it being bedtime 23.54.31 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.54.41 # It seems to me that this principle is more and more neglected 23.58.14 # ondio fm doesn't have rombox, right? e200? h10? <= the only TEA5767 ports I'm not sure of where size is concerned (~200). 23.58.38 # Ondio FM did have rombox until today :( 23.58.39 # jhMikeS: it had till today... 23.58.56 Quit dau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.58.59 Join daurn|laptop [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.126)