--- Log for 09.12.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.54 Quit G|iTch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.03.50 Part grond ("Verlassend") 00.08.28 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.15.48 Quit midkay ("*poff*") 00.16.41 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.18.05 Part Paul_the_Nerd 00.19.48 # any german here? 00.24.52 Quit webguest16 ("CGI:IRC") 00.27.08 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.31.21 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.32.17 # Alarm Mod is working as well now on my h120 :) 00.32.56 # :D 00.33.22 # i hope the dev people add MAX-IVY :D 00.33.24 Nick DreamThief is now known as DreamThief|off (n=mathias@p54A84EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.33.28 # my new player =) 00.35.25 # http://www.maxfield.de/index.php?id=16&tx_maxproductslist_pi1[pro_uid]=126&L=1&no_cache=1 00.35.26 # :D 00.36.29 Nick DreamThief|off is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A84EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.37.51 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.45.28 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-68-200-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 00.46.44 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.49.24 Join GliTch_ [0] (i=GliTch_@24-171-53-170.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 00.50.09 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 00.51.56 Join shnee [0] (n=CurtyD13@cpe-65-24-168-255.columbus.res.rr.com) 01.00.52 # Daky - You'd probably need to devlop it yourself |OR| to find a Maxfield owner who can devlop |OR| to give a current developer an Maxfield device so he can develop with it... Or be patient ;) The 'Other Ports' section of the forums at rockbox.org might be a good place to inquire on any of those suggestions. 01.01.55 # okay PaulPosition thanks =) 01.01.56 Quit ender` (" But there, everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the fu) 01.02.15 # It's a sigmatel based device (see the readme.txt in the latest firmware zip) - don't hold your breath... 01.02.27 Join [Gino] [0] (n=Gino@pool-71-254-100-5.ptldme.east.verizon.net) 01.03.21 # <[Gino]> Does line-in recording work with the iAudio X5 w/ Rockbox firmware? 01.03.27 # http://pastebin.us/9688 01.03.32 # @ obo =) 01.04.25 Nick hcs is now known as MetalGearHCS (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 01.06.54 # obo sorry i am a noob can you tell me what you mean ? 01.07.53 # as far as I know sigmatel don't release any publically available tech documents - so it would need to be reverse engineered... 01.07.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.31 # okay 01.08.47 # think you i should try a post in the forum? 01.09.17 # you'll be pointed straight to: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=NewPort 01.09.31 # yes of course 01.10.33 # from a really quick look at the firmware files in that zip, they seem to be encrypted, so that would need to be worked out as well 01.11.48 # rock have a german community too or? 01.12.32 Join donfede [0] (n=donfede@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/donfede) 01.13.20 # hello, is there a debian package (unstable) for m68k-elf-gcc ? we can't seem to find it (prc-tool-m68k does not seem to be the same thing) 01.13.23 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (i=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 01.13.49 # donfede: there isn't - easiest way is to build it yourself using the tools/rockboxdev.sh script 01.16.27 # |Gino|: I'm almost certain it does. jhMikeS has done a lot of work on the recording code in Rockbox, and he has an X5. 01.18.00 # <[Gino]> Thanks linuxstb! 01.19.44 # <[Gino]> Yeah, I think you are right... I just looked at the manual and it says you ca choose from mic or line-in. Thanks again 01.19.50 # <[Gino]> can* 01.19.55 # * jhMikeS ear is rining 01.20.24 # [Gino]: Yes, it supports all of them 01.20.34 # <[Gino]> :) 01.21.00 # <[Gino]> And FM radio recording too right 01.21.00 # <[Gino]> ? 01.21.03 # yes 01.21.08 # obo: thanks :) we just found that and are downloading now. we hope to hack the splitedit plugin to give basic cut, copy, paste editing capabilities (at least on iriverh340) 01.21.08 # <[Gino]> Thanks jhMikeS 01.21.31 # 88.2 kHz is a bit glitchy though, the audio chip seems to be a bit touchy there 01.22.05 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 01.22.06 # if it doesn't sound right, just leave the screen and come back till it does 01.22.30 # <[Gino]> K, thanks 01.22.30 Quit kubiix (Client Quit) 01.23.26 # donfede: Which formats are you planning to support in splitedit? 01.24.04 # Slasheri: are you around? Is there a way to get bootloader 7pre to boot from disk if the play button is constantly pressed? Even though I set it as default it always boots the R(AO)M image 01.24.23 # hopefully all, but probably starting with wave (maybe next ogg and mp3) ... we'll see how much the split edit plugin can start us with 01.24.30 # Slasheri: I don't want to open the case again :) 01.28.43 # petur, I haven't tested, but it looks fine to me, and if it works, then I'm happy ;-) 01.29.57 Part n1s 01.30.31 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.31.05 # Damn that original firmware sucks on the H10. And I can't install rockbox 'cuse my HD seems like it's on the verge of giving it's last squeal. - Just when I was having fun testing Barry and Dan's latest patches. Oh well. 01.31.40 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.31.44 Join scorche` [0] (i=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 01.37.48 Nick DreamThief is now known as DreamThief|off (n=mathias@p54A84EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.38.27 Join michaelconner [0] (i=46702517@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ca936299e99dc473) 01.38.39 # hi all 01.38.49 # am having a weird problem with rockbox on a nano 01.38.59 Join menosm [0] (n=menosm@user-11fb3d3.dsl.mindspring.com) 01.39.47 # i try to delete a file or directory from the file menu -- i press the select button, and nothing happens. it just exits back to the file browser without deleting the file or directory in question. 01.40.08 # am using daily build from 8 december 01.40.35 # try pressing play/pause instead? 01.41.26 # ah... are key mappings different from the ipod video? 01.41.31 # (it worked) 01.42.13 # no - but not all the lang strings have been corrected for the ipods 01.42.38 # ah, ok 01.43.06 # cool, thanks. glad to know it's not the player's fault. :) 01.44.29 Quit michaelconner ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.48.02 Quit roolku () 01.57.06 # jhMikeS: Your comment on CRSEL might result from reading the manual, but it isn't correct. I already fixed that bug once way back... 02.01.22 # Fri Oct 14 04:52:24 2005 UTC to be precise... 02.05.30 Join kripso [0] (i=kripso@addr248-7-26.alphonse.prq.se) 02.05.36 # midkay 02.05.38 # fucking dick 02.05.43 # go away 02.05.46 Quit kripso (Client Quit) 02.11.15 # wtf was that? 02.13.21 # I think it was a valuable technical contribution to Rockbox. 02.13.58 # just in case anyone was wondering 02.14.38 # hehe... Well I'm sorry to say I won't be able to make even half such a contribution now that I have to stay rockbox-free. 02.15.03 # * dan_a points to the simulator 02.16.49 # Theeehee.. But the sim doesn't do much for testing bootloaders. But yeah, I guess I could start learning to design WPS while waiting for an answer to my RMA request. If they say no I reinstall RB anyway, my H10 gonna blow up in style. :p 02.17.25 # (since I don't design bootloaders anyway and only test for others, it's no big deal.. 'less you guys can't find any other tester ;) ) 02.18.08 # Does it look like a disk problem? If so, it's probably worth keeping an eye on eBay for other broken h10s if iriver won't RMA it 02.19.42 # dan_a: It does and yeah, I'll keep an eye on broken players and/or 1" CF drives. Or I'll convert to solid-state :o (Hmm, maybe I can put rockbox + 3 or 4 songs (!!) on that 64mb CF I have lying somewhere :p ) 02.20.31 Quit banan_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.21.25 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.21.56 # Ooh, I like the work that has been done to get iCatcher and UniCatcher on the Sansa - I'm just playing with them in the sim. Thanks, Genre9mp3 and pixelma 02.22.32 # What size (physically) is the drive in the h10? 02.22.42 # 1 inch. 02.22.48 # I'd rather it was an 1.8 02.24.23 # 1" is an odd size for a drive. I'll keep my eyes open, though. 02.24.59 # 1"? 02.25.26 # I thought CF-sized harddrives are microdrives, i.e. 0.85" 02.25.28 # dan_a: Yeah, they were made to fit inside an CF mem card cartridge.. See http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/marketing/Seagate_ST1.pdf for an example. 02.25.57 # Yeah, I guess the drive itself is .85.. With the enclosure it's made to 1 inch. Or so they describe it everywhere anyway. :p 02.29.35 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.30.13 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B163C6.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.35.38 # what about me? :E 02.36.05 Quit obo ("bye") 02.37.18 # Apparently, somebody called krispo feels you shouldn't be here. He reminded me of Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged. 02.38.02 # haha. 02.38.07 # infinitely prolonged = (one big) fu... dick? 02.38.20 # never heard of this guy.. he must have chosen a random nick. i feel special! 02.43.16 # amiconn: rrgg...then you're saying the CPU is idling at 22Mhz now? 02.43.25 # nope 02.43.40 # Then what's going on? In the comment? 02.44.58 # I mean that your comment might result from reading the manual, but the code is now correct 02.45.06 # This was my fix back then: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/system.c.diff?r1=1.64&r2=1.65 02.47.54 Join eka [0] (n=mrmike56@c-24-21-137-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.48.10 # CRSEL is unrelated to the CPU clock, but it influences MCLK 02.48.13 # i have come to ask the most stupid question in the world! 02.48.19 # anyone up to answer it? 02.48.33 # i guarentee complete stupidity 02.48.36 # shoot, we'll see if you score 02.48.39 # ;) 02.48.51 # how do i add music and photos to my ipod through rockbox? 02.49.02 # and that's worded terribly 02.49.05 # Same thing but leaving CLSEL and AUDIO SEL setting as done with coldfire_pllcr_set_audio_bits 02.49.48 # i looked around, was unable to find an answer, perhaps i'm blind! 02.49.56 # Hmm, it's clearly defined in the manual. Not using an iPod I can't tell for sure what the buttons are, but you'll need to hold a button while booting so that it loads in 'USB Mass Storage' mode, just like any usb pen drive. 02.49.57 # paul - hopefully you have an answer? 02.50.01 # ...then you copy/paste. 02.50.14 # into where? 02.50.14 Quit donfede ("game over") 02.50.43 # there is a specific foler for photos 02.50.45 # music, no 02.51.11 # eka: Rockbox lets you put things where *you* think they should go :D 02.51.17 # eka - Into wherever you want. Create a folder 'music' or 'mymp3' or 'thisiswheremypiratestuffgoes', put your songs in there with the hierarchy you want. 02.51.21 # amiconn: It appeared to me that MCLK comes from CRSEL divider as I expected. Are you saying PSTCLK and SCLK are influence in bypass mode as well? If not I don't see my error. 02.51.29 # haha you're kidding? 02.51.31 # that's tight 02.51.33 # The folder for photo was created by the iTunes software. 02.51.43 # blar i hate itunes 02.51.57 # eka - iTunes cram the songs it put on your pod all into one hidden folder, and with cryptic names. 02.52.17 # jhMikeS: YOu made no error. I referred to your comment stating that you wondered why this is necessary (at least that's how I read it) 02.52.28 # yeah i noticed that when i was on linux and i had it hooked up 02.52.32 # it's ridiculous :-| 02.52.32 # eka - When you're done loading up your iPod, have a look at the 'browsing and playing' section of the manual, specifically the 'database' to see how to initialize it and start browsing using id3 tags. 02.53.29 # I was wondered why? My ears told me why. ;) 02.53.32 # but another question - should i put my "music" folder whatever - into just my ipod drive or the rockbox folder? 02.54.04 # eka - Anywhere would do, but straight in the root would be easier don't you think? ;) 02.54.13 # indeed 02.55.17 # eka - And then you can either browse with tags (if you initialized database) or do like I and browse on a folder basis, depending if you have a good folder hierarchy. :) 02.55.21 # I asked Slasheri about it the day he committed the change and he insisted that it shouldn't be changed 02.59.55 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.03.51 # wow 03.03.55 # rockbox is sexy ^_^' 03.06.45 # how am i going to go about putting videos on my ipod though 03.07.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.45 # HOLY CRAPESSSSSSS 03.08.50 # ROCKBOX IS THE BESTTTTTTTTT 03.08.55 # BUT I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW THATTTTTTTTTTT 03.09.34 Quit wooo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.17.51 Nick myzar|away is now known as myzar (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 03.18.39 # are there any good games for Rockbox? 03.18.41 # i need some 03.20.04 Join SimonSelki [0] (n=SimonSel@ppp-70-243-67-117.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) 03.20.19 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 03.20.25 # There's some if you look in "browse plugins". Doom is fairly well regarded, but you need to do a bit to set it up (this is in the wiki) 03.21.00 # speaking of plugins, I've got a question about patches 03.21.06 # thanks Dan! 03.21.30 # erm.... How do I patch? 03.21.36 # eka: You're welcome 03.21.51 # I read the file, and it wasn't too discript 03.22.23 # SimonSelki: You need to be able to compile Rockbox. You apply the patch to the source code, and then compile that. 03.22.43 # oh man.... 03.22.52 # I have to reload rockbox all together? 03.23.02 # Yes, I'm afraid so. 03.23.07 # reinstall the compiled version? 03.23.16 # okay okay.... 03.23.26 # ....damn 03.23.27 # okay 03.23.39 # I'm running an iPod Nano 03.24.10 # and there's a patch to fix the battery guage 03.24.31 # how do I know if the patch is in the newest Daily? 03.24.45 # or not... I mean, how will I know if it is or not 03.24.50 # <[Gino]> Does anyone know if there are size (dimension) limitations in the albumart patch? Like 75x75 or 100x100? 03.25.34 # SimonSelki: If it's in Flyspray, the task should have been closed if it's in CVS. Where can I find the patch? 03.25.43 # petur: thanks a lot! 03.25.54 # ops ;) 03.26.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4998 03.26.12 # right there 03.26.27 # alright, recompile rockbox 03.27.12 # The comment on there says that it doesn't apply cleanly - that means that it is a bit of work to get it to compile. 03.28.26 # okay, I guess I should have looked at the comments 03.28.28 # I'm really new 03.28.38 # I just got Rockbox installed and it's blowing my mind 03.28.49 # so, I find the .rockbox file on my iPod while it's connected to USB, and recompile it there? 03.29.02 # or do I have to start from scratch all over again? 03.29.39 # SimonSelki - There are good chances that there's already a build somewhere that someone did and that does include the patch/patches you want... 03.30.07 # That's one thing I noticed about this site though.... I'm really sure there is 03.30.07 # SimonSelki: It's best to recompile Rockbox on your PC and then copy it over the old .rockbox on your Nano 03.30.19 # SimonSelki - Nope. You download the full source for rockbox, you set up a development environment through cygwin or vmware (or linux if you have it installed) and then you apply patch to source and compile the whole thing. Lotsa fun. 03.31.05 # man 03.31.12 # I'm really not programmer material 03.31.24 # not so, I program flash I guess 03.31.25 # SimonSelki: Give me 20 minutes and I'll do it for you - though learning how to do it yourself is better ;) 03.31.41 # do that instead 03.31.42 # SimonSelki - OR, you download a precompiled build that suits most of your wants. Have a look at the 'unsupported builds' section of the forum, you might find a few interresting builds. 03.31.43 # learn me 03.33.00 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEE6A2.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.33.10 # Do you use Windows, Linux, MacOS or something else? 03.33.17 # Windows 98 03.33.55 # yeah, you would not imagine the complications I have with my running system 03.34.11 # I mean, you could I guess imagine it 03.35.44 # OK, that might give some problems, but we'll try to deal with them. You need to follow http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide#Setup_Your_Environment to be able to compile your own Rockbox. 03.35.49 # would anyone mind being extremely awesome and sending me a load of plugins and games? 03.36.13 # (for ipod video 5th gen) 03.36.50 # dan_a: any luck with r53? ;) 03.37.28 # netmasta10bt: I went to the pub instead... it is a Friday night after all ;) 03.37.57 # Hey I hear ja! ;) Gettin packed now for a week off myself 03.38.05 # dan_a: very gogod idea 03.38.17 # I did nearlicy the same 03.38.25 Quit SimonSelki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.38.49 # * jhMikeS would like to fuse audio_record and audio_new_file into one function for a couple reason 03.40.55 # ATTENTION EVERYONE. 03.41.06 # i am experiencing a very terrible problem 03.41.13 # my ipod is stuck in doom 03.41.14 # oh noes! 03.41.18 # -.- 03.41.22 # i can't shut it down, even 03.41.28 # and when i plug it in to usb 03.41.30 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 03.41.31 # .. nothing! 03.42.00 # eka: I think you use the hold switch to get a menu on the iPod 03.42.04 Quit jaebird ("Leaving") 03.42.18 # i love you 03.42.48 # * linuxstb_ points eka towards the Rockbox manual 03.44.40 Join Nackon [0] (n=xyz@pool-72-89-217-14.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.45.17 # * eka throws liquid nitrogen all over linuxstb_'s hand so he can no longer point 03.47.18 # anyone compared iRiver sound quality? 03.47.53 # to... anything :) 03.48.52 # Nackon: Yes. See the first entry here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GoldenQuotes 03.49.02 Join SimonSelki [0] (n=SimonSel@ppp-70-243-67-117.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) 03.49.04 # ah, thank u 03.49.23 # Man, I'm so sorry 03.50.02 Quit menosm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.50.29 # for what? 03.50.37 # My comp crashed 03.50.42 # I was getting help from someone 03.50.50 # wasn't me for sure 03.51.01 # I don't know shit 03.51.02 # :) 03.52.09 # dan: that link didn't really have any comparisons 03.53.00 # Nackon: It compared iRiver sound quality under Rockbox to a bag of something... 03.53.04 # I tried one of the recent firmwares on iPod.. it sounded the same, slightly better because u could boost the bass more I think 03.53.08 # daaaaaaaaaaaamnit 03.53.11 # hehe 03.53.12 # Nackon: http://www.google.com/search?q=rockbox+rmaa 03.53.22 # mandelbrot fractal zooms are f'ing my ipod up D: 03.53.28 # now the phone 03.53.30 # okay 03.53.32 # i think it's frozen 03.53.41 # I believe it was Dan_a and PaulSomething 03.53.45 # Sorry 03.53.48 # My comp crashed 03.53.57 # * linuxstb_ uses his surviving hand to point eka towards the Rockbox manual 03.53.58 # My biggest question of all regarded tags 03.54.10 # NO - i got both of your hands 03.54.13 # the text lies 03.54.27 # I think iPods and (I mean the 30 and 60gb that I tried) have lesser ability to reproduce base when compared with iRiver (IHP that I've tried) 03.54.40 # * ze psychically controls a robotic arm to point to the rockbox manual and locks it into pointing-position 03.54.43 # Okay, so no matter how I try and load the songs onto the iPod, they don't have the right tags 03.54.57 # I tried using programs, and drag-and-dropping the mp3s 03.55.23 # SimonSelki: maybe your mp3s just don't have the right tags? 03.55.28 # They will have whatever tags you put on the MP3s. What are you seeing on the iPod, and what do you think you should be seeing? 03.55.30 # when I drag and drop, the song names are wrong, but the albums.... 03.55.50 # will the iPod Nano rockbox read tags correctly if I get a tag editor? 03.56.00 # Album, Artist, Name and all? 03.56.08 # i would imagine 03.56.08 # :p 03.56.10 # hooray for rockbox manual x.x 03.56.11 # I tried setting the tag in the programs before I uploaded them 03.56.18 # I read it buddy 03.56.35 # linuxstb: wow, there're ppl analyzing it with scientific software (RMAA)! :) 03.56.44 # SimonSelki: What did you set the tag to? What does it say in Rockbox? 03.56.44 # Nackon: Yep :) 03.56.46 # hmm 03.57.17 # SimonSelki: Maybe you have both id3v1 and id3v2 tags in your files - you can change the priority in Rockbox. 03.57.28 # When I uploaded them, the album titles and artists were right, but the naes in the actual browser were way off 03.57.42 # in the wps they were normal though 03.57.52 # I tried that too 03.57.54 # wait 03.57.56 # lemme try again 03.58.05 # where was that now? 03.58.09 # Are you using the file browser or the database browser? 03.58.10 # SimonSelki: I'm guessing that in the browser you're seeing the file name, not the tag. 03.58.19 # both, I tried all 03.58.24 # exactly 03.58.26 # "Iriver decreases the bass setting as you increase volume" 03.58.34 # I thought that was all "in my head"! 03.58.35 # hah 03.58.46 # Nackon: Yes, it does that to prevent clipping IIRC. 03.58.55 # When I load with a program they encrypt the actual file names or something, so they come up all wierd 03.59.05 # I had to maintain this specific tonal quality, usually slightly lower volume than what I'd like! 03.59.15 # but then it sounded awesome 03.59.28 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@222.76.229.178) 03.59.48 # I thought this was due to my ears, because, I thought, my ears can't take more base when volume is higher 03.59.53 # heh, that's f'd up 04.00.20 # Is there a way that when I'm viewing the file, it shows their tags instead of the filename? 04.00.33 # too bad I've got no iRiver atm, sold it some time ago.. 04.00.43 # SimonSelki: Yes, that's the Database browser. 04.00.46 # got a new one on the way though 04.01.09 # So do I just update the database when I drag and drop? 04.01.56 # You need to initialise the database once and reboot Rockbox, and then (IIRC) it updates automatically. 04.02.16 # okay 04.02.21 # let me do that now and see 04.02.23 # has anyone compared sound of iHP300 series with H100 series? 04.02.38 # exaclty the same I guess 04.02.43 # they have the same chip 04.03.06 # and there is no iHP300 series 04.03.09 # only H300 04.03.15 # ah really? I was so worried cuz I got the iHP300 now, but the one I had b4 (and really liked) was H140 04.03.20 # it was iHP100 and then changed it to H100 04.03.26 # H300 wasn never iHP 04.04.22 # okay, I just did what you said 04.04.32 # I guess my tags are just messed up 04.04.46 # It's showing alot of wierd crap where the albums were 04.04.53 # SimonSelki: If you give us an example of (1) What the tag is on your computer, and (2) What the tag is on Rockbox, then we might be able to work out if you've found a bug or if you are doing something wrong. 04.05.20 # well, H320 Vs. iHP-140 then :) 04.05.28 # those are the specific model names 04.05.45 # H320 is the one I'm getting 04.05.56 # I think I might be getting my definition of tags confused, but I really appreciate your alacrity to help 04.06.30 # what is the difference between the two types of tags? 04.06.38 # XavierGr: so these two have same chip? 04.06.48 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 04.07.01 # id3v1 and id3v2 04.07.14 # because after I ordered it, I've discovered that there's no optical output on H320 04.07.17 # and where is the menue item that allows me to choos priority? 04.07.39 # so I thought it must have a different audio chip 04.07.46 # found it, nm 04.08.41 # I'm going to look for a proggie on snapfiles that will mass edit tags 04.09.04 # I don't need optical out, never used it on my old ihp-140, but I do wonder if they had a separate chip to process optical data... 04.09.34 # in other words if H320 is the same, but without that extra chip 04.21.10 # Nackon: H100 and H300 have exactly the same ADC/DAC chip 04.22.42 # ah, so the sound they produce must be the same right? (sorry I'm not sure what ADC/DAC chips do) 04.23.10 # yes 04.23.39 # cool, thanks... I was gonna buy the iHP to do side-by-side testing :) 04.23.58 # and those things are a pain to find now it turns out 04.24.07 # DAC: Digital to Analog (playback) ADC: Analog to Digital (recording) 04.24.33 # oh I see 04.25.29 # gonna put a 80gig HD into my H320 :) 04.25.57 # there will be also an 100GB one out in January ;) 04.26.29 # 100GB.. WOW! can u say losLESS :) 04.26.52 # heh 04.27.10 # can u say tons of mp3? :P 04.27.13 # although I must say, even on 80gig I could have most of the music (the ones that matter in quality anyway) uncompressed 04.28.26 # wish they had those in 5mm though, so I wouldn't have to chop it up 04.28.58 # I bought the H320 instead of H340 because I wanted the thinnest possible 04.30.16 # although it's probably fat enough where it doesn't matter a few extra mm's 04.31.16 # well, I'm not sure if the 80GB one will fit in the H320 04.32.14 # it won't, not as it is 04.32.28 # I've read somewhere u have to remove the "padding" 04.32.42 # not sure if it's a smart thing to do though 04.33.16 # but then I don't exactly intend to throw it around 04.33.20 # yes... I wouldn't feel very comfortable to remove this, too 04.33.54 # do they have 60gb in single platter? 04.33.59 # no 04.34.13 # up to 40GB atm in single platter 04.34.17 # yeah, 60 is the minimum for me 04.34.37 # so I'd just get 80 gig instead, if I'm gonna rip it apart anyway 04.34.42 # but maybe there will be a 50GB single platter soon (when 100GB is out) 04.34.56 # hmm 04.35.19 # but only 100GB is announced 04.35.40 # when it's out, it's sure to drop the price on the smaller ones... at least every one in this chan will probably sell theirs on eBay :) 04.36.22 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.203.66) 04.36.53 # anyway.... bed time for me 04.36.59 # goodnight all 04.37.13 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 04.37.30 # cya 04.37.37 # oh woops :) 04.38.04 # damn its freezin today 04.44.22 Quit eka () 04.50.33 # anyone tried HeadBanger EarSubs? 04.50.46 # "you'll ALWAYS get the best sound possible with the Universal Ear Sub solution!" 04.50.54 # for $20 04.52.06 # maybe they should refrase it as ..best sound possible *with these earbuds* 04.57.55 # pile of crap I bet 05.01.23 Quit Siku (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.01.23 Quit lost|X40 (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 Quit Strath (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 Quit gtkspert (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 Quit Soap (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 Quit Slasheri (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 Quit lex (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 Quit vr (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.01.23 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.01.23 NJoin vr [0] (n=Vr@cryogenia.devnullteam.org) 05.01.28 NJoin Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 05.01.33 NJoin gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 05.01.34 NJoin lost|X40 [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-66-73-3-196.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 05.01.42 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) 05.01.43 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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un-officially, only the 30 gig versions 08.44.02 # sweet 08.44.11 # that's what I was going to get :-) 08.44.44 # i would suggest that you read the thread about it in the new ports section of our forums 08.45.38 # you have forums ? o_0 08.45.56 # forums.rockbox.org 08.46.18 # oh cool! 09.01.18 Join Rooy [0] (n=dhhoa1@cor7-ppp5291.bur.dsl.connect.net.au) 09.02.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.09 # hi, i have some m4a files that play and pause in rockbox 09.02.36 # using rockbox 20061208 on ipod nano 09.03.50 # foobar2k says the file is AAC SBR ~64KBps 09.04.08 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 09.04.13 # but my wps (cleardark) show the file as 128kbps shorten 09.05.35 # anyone hears me? 09.05.57 Quit illogic-al (Remote closed the connection) 09.06.16 # Rooy: I hear you, but don't know the answer. 09.06.40 # thanks; noone here is an operator? 09.14.52 Part Rooy 09.16.25 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 09.22.57 Part BobJonkman 09.28.02 Quit pixelma (" reboot") 09.34.32 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 09.45.40 Join t0dk0n [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-132-2-43.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 09.46.00 # the Database/tagchache is all messed up on my ipod 09.46.19 # when I goto an artist > album/all tracks 09.46.25 # there's two or three repeated tracks 09.46.28 # is that just a bug? 09.46.50 # or should I delete something from the ipod root dir? 09.46.57 # or .rockbox? 10.03.57 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 10.07.21 Join FauxFaux [0] (n=faux@pdpc/supporter/active/FauxFaux) 10.11.26 # t0dk0n: you could try to delete the tagcache files in .rockbox and rebuild the DB 10.13.08 # t0dk0n: you might also have real copies of those tracks on your hd 10.13.48 # t0dk0n: you should create a playlist file containing those duplicate tracks and check with computer if the tracks point to the same file 10.28.54 Quit kubiix ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 10.34.48 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.37.24 # Hmmm, I think Markuns idea would work 10.37.53 # slasheri: but I don't see how the hdd copies (which I barely have anyway) would have anything to do with it 10.37.53 # and if it doesn't try Slasheri's suggestion 10.38.01 # hehe alright 10.38.10 # t0dk0n: so you do have HDD copies? 10.38.24 # nope, not really, just some 10.38.35 # wait, of the songs? or tagcache? 10.38.41 # of songs 10.38.45 # yeah, just some 10.38.53 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.38.54 # in totally different remote locations 10.38.56 # well, they will show up 2 times then 10.38.56 # t0dk0n: you might have more you could think 10.38.58 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B975A1.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.39.06 # you should try that playlist thing also 10.39.15 # hehe alright 10.39.16 # those songs could be deleted songs and so on 10.39.16 # I will 10.39.29 # thank you, both of you ^_^ 10.41.26 # Slasheri: It's not necessary to check with a computer. The playlist viewer can be switched to full path view iirc 10.43.14 # or use the textviewer 10.43.17 Join muesli [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 10.45.58 # ah, true 10.47.53 # ahhh hmm, I have database_0.tcd to database_5.tcd and tagcache_1.tcd to tagcache_5.tcd including _idx.tcd for both 10.48.06 # Maybe I should delete the tagchache only? 10.48.39 # you can delete those tagcache* files, as tagcache got renamed to database 10.48.47 # hehe yeah 10.49.00 # but I'm thinking, perhaps thats the reason it was shown double? 10.49.08 # no, it's not 10.49.12 # ah, alright 10.49.18 # so just delete all the tcd? 10.49.19 # tagcache* are not used at all 10.49.28 # oooo 10.49.37 # well, you can try that and then re-initialize. Or just try the playlist thing first 10.49.39 # unless he didn't upgrade 10.50.09 # naw, I've upgraded to the latest CVS around 3pm PST yesterday I guess 10.52.56 # alright ima goto sleep 10.53.16 # thanks for all the help slasheri and markun 10.53.17 Part t0dk0n 10.53.56 Join God__Eater [0] (n=kate_sho@host-84-9-129-176.bulldogdsl.com) 10.54.40 Quit God_Eater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.55.50 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.56.26 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.56.27 Join bluebrother [0] (i=Ub5ANTjZ@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.58.50 Quit [TEHb]_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.59.20 # Slasheri: Have you looked at starting the Apple OS on your 5.5g, or done any work to ipod_fw.c? The ipod_fw.c in CVS still doesn't support the 5.5g... 11.01.09 # linuxstb_: i have started on adding an option for the 5.5g, but that does not allow loading the apple os yet.. not sure how it should be done 11.02.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.02.17 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 11.02.34 # I'm thinking it should be possible to auto-detect the firmware type - so we can just keep a single 5g option. 11.03.59 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host111-146.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 11.05.10 # Hmm, there seems to be a small bug in the FAT driver regarding file dates when the RTC is not set 11.05.37 # I have some files which are listed as having no date & time at all when shown in windows explorer 11.06.24 # ..and on the H300 a couple of files show as being from 2092, which I think has to do with the date offset we need to apply in order to make the of happy 11.08.22 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A45F24.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.08.57 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 11.12.50 # amiconn: I fear I just broke rombox on the recorder? 11.15.42 # It already was broken, but due to a linker bug this doesn't show up when it's only a bit over the limit 11.16.07 # But you pushed code size, otherwise it wouldn't be red now 11.16.19 Nick DreamThief|off is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A84EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.16.23 # Slasheri: Can you send me a patch for ipod_fw.c? (preferably against current CVS - I just synced ipod_fw.c with the IPL CVS). 11.16.28 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.16.56 # amiconn: I even changed the patch from using a define to a function to avoid wasted bytes :/ 11.17.38 # does gcc try to optimize by inlining functions? 11.17.48 # +160 byte on recorder 11.18.14 # gcc does optimize by inlining, but for archos we do use -Os 11.19.24 # got no time now, I'll look into reducing code size a bit later today 11.19.41 # ...so gcc will only inline functions which are (1) only used once, (2) so tiny that the call overhead would be larger than the inlined code or (3) have the always_inline attribute 11.19.51 # set 11.20.17 # hmmm my function _is_ small 11.20.22 # linuxstb: just a moment, i will try to finish my patch :) or then you can search flyspray for the closed 5.5G patch and apply only the ipod_fw.c part of it 11.20.58 # linuxstb: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6169 that one 11.21.48 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 11.23.58 # Slasheri: Ah, so that includes the ipod_fw.c patch. Maybe I shouldn't have closed it.... 11.27.17 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.27.42 # evening all 11.28.10 Join [TEHb] [0] (n=nickolay@ns.protei.ru) 11.29.36 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496698B.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.30.06 # rombox is too big on another 2 targets? :'( 11.30.25 # It was before... 11.30.40 # before? 11.30.42 Nick DreamThief is now known as DreamThief|off (n=mathias@p54A84EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.30.44 # ye 11.30.45 # 4 builds are too big now 11.30.45 # s 11.30.52 # I'm still in favour of doing rombox ifdefs to remove stuff for them 11.31.13 # I'm not 11.31.19 # well, there is one existing already 11.32.09 # I really like having rombox, but imho it's better to not have it than to cripple it 11.32.29 # i havent tested recently, but i think it is still under the barrier and will be for a while 11.32.52 # amiconn: of course it is, but until then, we have the ifdef 11.33.02 # also, it depends on your definition of cripple 11.33.17 # Cripple == not having all standard rockbox features 11.33.39 # But there are other options to decrease size 11.34.02 # Lang cleanup utilising langv2 is one 11.34.08 # It's a lot of work 11.34.10 # though 11.34.15 # and the settings rework will help a bit 11.34.21 # and it'll only be a matter of time when we hit the roof again 11.34.27 # but this convo happens every few weeks anyway 11.34.42 # yes, we need a fix that can last 11.34.55 # and I don't see how any optimize trick is that fix 11.35.22 # i think the only permanent fix is to upgrade the ROM chip 11.36.02 # or dump rombox completly 11.36.19 # * JdGordon is not suggestin ha of course 11.36.19 # More efficient (=slower decomp.) compression of the image? 11.36.28 # not an option...branch it if you were to go that far ;) 11.36.30 # doesnt that defeat he purpose of rombox tho? 11.36.54 # true 11.37.08 # dwihno: Rombox isn't compressed 11.37.14 # anyone know the boot speed difference? 11.37.26 # amiconn: ah, sorry.. 11.37.46 # amiconn: thought of the ucl thing... didn't know it didn't apply to rombox as well 11.37.47 # JdGordon: for rombox, it isnt mostly about the boot speed 11.38.03 # oh? I thought it was 11.38.18 # dwihno: Rombox uses the same extension, but it's uncompressed, otherwise it wouldn't work 11.38.31 # How would you tell the cpu to execute compressed code? ;) 11.38.49 # Using the secret instruction set, of course :) 11.39.14 # JdGordon: Boot speed is a tiny bit higher (about half a second) because no decompression is necessary 11.39.18 # JdGordon: it is partly that, but it is also about having more RAM available 11.39.29 # But the main advantage of rombox is to have more free ram 11.39.35 # ah, ok, forgot abou the lack of RAM 11.40.35 # the size of rombox hasn't changed too much through the years, right? 11.40.58 # Bagder: even taking out some functions won't be a lasting fix - you will "hit the roof again" unless you'd leave it this way forever... and that would be :/ 11.41.13 # Bagder: As you are a perl expert obviously: Could you make buildzip.pl exclude the eq presets for non-swcodec? 11.41.42 # dwihno: quite the opposite actually...that is why we are having this discussion...because Rombox is too big at present 11.42.12 # (and even better, make it exclude the empty backdrop folder for monochrome targets as well) 11.42.33 # scorche: hm, I thought the size of rombox has been consequently stable... Well, in that case, I see two alternatives. Disable some space consuming features or drop it. 11.42.49 # Hmm, seems it is excluded now? 11.42.49 Nick DreamThief|off is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A84EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.42.53 # * amiconn needs to check 11.43.38 # What about a online system which allows the user to choose what to ommit in the code, and which target to compile and it will build rombox from cvs using the choices? then dumop the rombox checking from the cvs table? 11.43.56 # so, those that want rombox can customize it how they want, and its a more "lasting" option 11.44.06 # dwihno: well, a while back, i put in an ifdef for tagcache...that was a pretty big chunk of something that i and others do not use on those targets that (afaik) still holds and will hold for a while 11.44.32 # ah, tagcache. never used it, probably never will :) 11.44.41 # * JdGordon just started using it 11.44.43 # dwihno: same 11.45.17 # JdGordon: how yould you set aside the oiption of what to include?...a whole lot of different ifdefs? 11.45.33 # * amiconn does use tagcache occasionally 11.45.37 # tagcache? What are you guys talking about? ;) 11.45.39 # well, the biggets parts are dircache and tagcahce, and both can already be ifdeffed out 11.45.40 # scorche: So rombox does include tagcache? 11.45.45 # Mostly for checking for dupes and wrong tags 11.46.05 # JdGordon: Dircache isn't built for archos anyway 11.46.11 # oh, ok 11.46.12 # (wouldn't make sense at all) 11.46.33 # dwihno: well, it is too big for the target...but if you comment out the define, it is able to be built 11.46.55 # scorche: how much space does that temporary fix buy? 11.46.57 # move the wps code to a tsr-able plugin 11.47.04 # that will help a fair bit 11.47.15 # JdGordon: that is why the dircache code is ifdefed for >8MB of RAM 11.47.16 # and allow for different wps systems 11.47.38 # dwihno: i forgot the exact amount...i will have to check when i get the time in a few days 11.48.21 # scorche: It's not that important to me, but if it buys 1k, 5k or 20k would be nice to know. 11.48.55 # it was a large amount 11.49.25 # ah, okay. 11.50.27 # i really should go to sleep though...i have a 10 hour drive ahead of me tomorrow... 11.50.28 # is anyone dead set against rock-ifiing the wps code? 11.50.35 # rombox is about having the maximum amount of memory available... dircache is a feature I'd be willing to drop to run rombox 11.50.47 # scorche: ha, drive safely... 10hr drive is a bithc :D 11.50.53 # JdGordon: Playback is core functionality and shouldn't be moved to a plugin imho 11.51.06 # dwihno: as we said before, dircache isnt built for those devices anyway 11.51.26 # scorche: sorry, I ment tagcache 11.52.10 # JdGordon: i do it every couple of months so i am used to it...i have all of the HHG2G radio shows to last me through the ride though ;) 11.53.17 # dwihno: i feel the same way...which is why i added that ifdef ;) 11.53.20 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 11.53.38 # :) 11.53.38 # amiconn: (I think we've done this before :D ), the wps code is horrible right? well what if we put a really simple display in the core, and use it if the wps-rock cant be loaded (something else is in the plugin ram) or not wanted. It would allow for much more cde in rombox, and diferent wps systems (xml? simpler? test code, etc) 11.54.10 # aaah 11.54.13 # me likey! 11.54.48 # ... and bcause of the recent tsr plugin change, it would only have 1 hard disk read unless another rock is loaded 11.54.54 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEFCCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.55.06 # JdGordon: no... I would never want that 11.55.10 # playlist viewer would need t be changed tho 11.55.51 # everything related to playback has highest priority 11.56.20 # * JdGordon is just suggesting stuff to make rombox workable again 11.56.34 # and moving it to a rock wouldnt make it any less a priority (imo) 11.56.40 # * dwihno votes for disabling tagcache on rombox targets 11.57.21 # the only bad thing would be having to reload the tsr plugin when exiting plugins 11.58.18 # and loading the plugin at bootup wound wield no notable performance hit due to the disk already spinning 11.59.21 Quit dan_a () 11.59.21 # and if the wps code is a mess - maybe there's a way for a coder to make it significantly better - I remember a simple patch of lowlight (iirc) that helped dropping a noticable amount of bytes (ask amiconn for the number) 12.00.02 # * JdGordon tihnks the tree is a good candidate for reworking 12.00.21 # has the settings code been revamped? 12.00.30 # ... but its horible and I get nightmares when I try to figure it out :p 12.00.36 # I think it used to be a candidate for cleanup as well 12.00.43 # dwihno: it has, but the patch isnt quite ready yet 12.02.14 # * amiconn really likes having rombox, but with all the planned additions it might break beyond repair :/ 12.02.15 # Slasheri: are you arounud? 12.02.37 # pixelma: almost no matter what I prefer keeping code as plugins... and having a very basic WPS and one (or more) loadable different loadable wps engines sounds like a good idea to me 12.03.00 # At least on all MASF targets, as they are the ones which will see the new features 12.03.12 # MASF? 12.03.17 # which new features? 12.03.19 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 12.03.29 # PCM playback and recording 12.03.34 # Ain't rockbox complete already? :) 12.03.36 # (WAV, AIFF) 12.03.42 # ah cool 12.03.50 # dwihno: RTM next week 12.04.06 # k 12.04.11 # Recording only for MAS3587F, not for MAS3539, obviously 12.04.59 # Awesome feature! 12.05.35 # What if just the wps parsign code was moved to a plugin? 12.05.39 # The only MASD target can't have those features added, and ironically is the one where rombox has most room to grow :/ 12.05.41 # would that help at all? 12.05.53 # (that is the Player) 12.06.48 # * n1s nags devs to take a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6421 12.10.39 # JdGordon: I think turning the wps into a tsr plugins sounds like a good idea anyhow, so I'm on your side :) 12.11.01 # yippe :) wanna do the work to make it happen ? :D 12.12.14 # Hm. It sure has been a while since I last made myself useful on the project. I can't promise any results, but I will take a look on tuesday. 12.12.45 # its goign to be painful because every function call is going to need a rb-> before it 12.12.50 # + other stuff 12.12.57 # yeah 12.13.12 # and the wps has gotten all bitmappy since I last checked that code (it's been a while) 12.14.32 # The wps plugin idea is bad 12.15.28 # It would rule out running tsr plugins while playing music, questioning the purpose of tsr plugins 12.15.59 # ah, didn't think of that 12.16.02 # So bye-bye to battery benchmarks... 12.16.57 # ...and alpine_cdc 12.17.13 # JdGordon: also.. you have better things to do, don't you? :P 12.17.16 # * bluebrother dislikes the idea of having wps stuff outside of the core 12.17.29 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.17.56 # but how about simplifying the wps core and allow it to get extended by special wps plugins? 12.18.08 # The wps code is a good candidate for cleanup. Iirc there was someone who wanted to rewrite the parser... 12.18.30 # pixelma: sure do.... but its sat night and about 35C in here, so.. meh :p 12.19.10 # * dwihno suggests a binary wps format and a plugin to parse the .wps files 12.19.33 # * dwihno watches the tomatoes ;) 12.19.42 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Connection timed out) 12.20.09 # there are a few wps code aptches on FS 12.20.57 # * bluebrother remembers simplifying the utf8 thingy ... http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6203 12.21.53 # * JdGordon thinks the playlist code is also fairly heavy 12.22.26 # Hows that menu stuff coming along Jd? 12.22.54 # mostly done... the settings need doule checking aparently 12.23.22 # Wow great. So you got that CPU issue all sorted out? 12.23.49 # The playlist code is *very* complex. I wouldn't dare to touch it in fear of breaking it 12.23.53 Join jba_ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.24.05 # But I think the bookmark code is another candidate for cleanup 12.24.14 # aliask: yeah, that was an idiotic bug, the callbcks fro the menu were wrong 12.24.31 # amiconn: I want to dump the bookmark code and just use the .playlist_control file for bookmarks 12.24.40 # Cool, I'd offer to help but at the moment I'm without a rockbox target, and it's killing me 12.24.46 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 12.24.52 # haha 12.25.01 # hows the gigabeat going? 12.25.02 # JdGordon: It won't work that simple 12.25.19 # with a bit of adjusting of course.. but why not? 12.25.23 # .playlist_control doesn't include the resume information 12.25.30 Join jba___ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.25.31 # yeah, it needs t be added 12.25.36 # which should be easy 12.25.40 Nick jba___ is now known as jbaq (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.25.43 # Gigabeat is being troublesome, but I did a bit of work on it today at a friend's house. Still need to get direct access to the HDD 12.25.52 Nick jbaq is now known as jba__ (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.26.03 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 12.26.38 # pixelma: I had a look at the "lcd inverse" setting in the code and im baffled as to why its not working 12.26.38 # ah... where's the resume information stored then? 12.26.47 # in the config block 12.27.01 # there are 2 settings with resume info 12.27.03 # that's why it isn 12.27.15 # 't working in the menu rework? 12.27.29 # mayube 12.27.31 # dan_a: Are you around? 12.27.44 # linuxstb: yes 12.27.54 # but they could be appended easily for the bookmark file 12.28.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4826 was the WPS reworking patch 12.28.09 # not that I got all that far with it 12.28.31 # dan_a: Could I trouble you for a copy of your 3g's bootpartition.bin (the original unmodified version) ? I'm working on ipod_fw.c and don't want to break it for the 3gs. 12.29.45 # linuxstb: No problem - it's heading your way now 12.30.51 # Erm... it's 40M, so I'll email you a link to it! 12.31.12 # pixelma: oh, you mentioned it not saving the settings/resume info properly, I tihnk that was a problem with the cvs code which I fixed late last week, so it should work fine now, (hopeflly) 12.31.18 # OK, thanks. You should be able to zip (or bzip2/7zip) it and reduce the size a lot. 12.32.19 # JdGordon: I tested it patched vs. unpatched of the same source - unpatched was working ok - only the patched version not 12.32.29 Quit jba_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.32.34 # ok, maybe not then... but hopefully it is :D 12.32.49 # im updating now, so i will do some work before i head out tonight 12.33.20 # aliask: if only there was a firmware update.. 12.33.29 # JdGordon: ok... I'll be testing after your update 12.33.40 # markun: Exactly... 12.33.53 # who is the naughty bugger who editted settins.c in the last while!! ? 12.34.08 # I'm beginning to work on understanding the bin file format 12.34.50 # doh! i was the last one to commit to settings.c :p 12.34.54 # aliask: Are you working on the Gigabeat S? 12.35.23 # linuxstb: Yeah, but I'm not making much progress personally. 12.35.25 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.35.40 # MTP is getting in the way a bit - and theres a possibility that the firmware is digitally signed. 12.37.45 # pixelma: the setting name in the menu is "LCD Mode" ? 12.37.50 # (the one being naughty) 12.38.38 # yes 12.39.11 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 12.41.18 # aliask: Do you just have one version of the firmware to look at? 12.41.42 # linuxstb: Yep. I also have a copy of the zune firmware which should be very similar 12.43.51 Nick jba__ is now known as jba (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.47.30 # r u guys preparing for zune port? 12.48.10 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-073-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.48.41 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.49.13 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.55.06 Join Kittt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.183.218) 12.55.57 # pixelma: new patch online (in a sec), im off for the night 12.56.17 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 12.59.27 Nick waky is now known as daky (n=sleepy@m6s02.vlinux.de) 13.00.24 # aliask, linuxstb: I have the firmware for you if you want.. 13.02.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.05.08 # JdGordon: hope you don't have any settings nightmares - I'll test over the weekend :) 13.11.41 Quit Kitt0s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.18.24 Quit Rob2222 (Success) 13.18.34 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B163C6.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.21.20 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.22.06 # Slasheri: are you here? 13.22.20 # roolku: hi :) 13.22.23 # now i am 13.22.27 # Hi :) 13.22.49 # I had a little problem with the 7 pre2 bootloader last night 13.23.01 # it doesn't seem to like to boot from disk by default 13.23.12 # yep, i saw that. did you try booting up with the hold button activated? 13.23.24 # you can try booting with usb cable connected also 13.23.53 # yes, but the trouble was the RTC chip was holding the play button down. :) 13.24.12 # I didn't know about the usb boot - how does that work? 13.24.14 # oh, hmm :) 13.24.29 # well, you could reset while hold is switched on. Or reset with usb cable plugged in 13.24.38 # after disconnecting usb cable, rockbox loads from disk 13.25.01 # ah, that USB trick is useful to know 13.25.06 # :) 13.25.13 # lets hope that helps 13.25.35 # I double-tapped and got into the ROM image. then I put hold on the main unit and roloed with the remote 13.25.52 # double-tapped reset 13.25.59 # ah, you should reset or shutdown. Not rolo 13.26.15 # rolo does not invoke the bootloader at all 13.26.34 # that was the only way I could boot the disk image - but once was enough to reset the RTC 13.26.52 # hmm, weird 13.27.23 # with the bootloader I either got a menu at was stuck there or with a little luck and resetting it would boot into either RAM or ROM (not sure which) 13.27.36 # *and was stuck* 13.28.02 Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=unknown@248.80-202-105.nextgentel.com) 13.28.22 # ah, so the menu was stuck because rtc was constantly pressing the play button? 13.28.23 # Anyway - amiconn broke your rombox patch now :( 13.28.43 # hmm, i will fix it soon and start committing some portions of it 13.28.56 # yes, that was the problem with the menu - but i don't know why I got the menu when i told it to boot from disk by default 13.29.26 # ah, you get always the menu if previous shutdown was not clean (rockbox crashed) 13.30.11 # hmm, maybe usb mode button driver should ignore the on key.. 13.30.20 # usb=bootloader 13.31.05 # :) 13.31.47 # Anyway it is all working now - thanks for rombox, I like it a lot. 13.32.03 # hehe, nice :) 13.32.13 # Slasheri: Just to let you know that I'm making progress with ipod_fw.c (auto-detecting 5.5g images). I'm about to go out for a few hours, but hopefully I'll have something for you to test this evening if you're around. 13.33.37 # linuxstb: ok, that sounds great - much better than my approach just to add a command line switch 13.34.13 # It's not obvious to a user if they have 2048-byte sectors or not, so hopefully we can fix it so they don't need to know. 13.34.48 # Is Rockbox running well on your 5.5g now? 13.35.04 # i.e. can we call 5.5g support as good as 5g support? (on the 30GB) 13.35.56 # well, comparing to h140 i wouldn't say well at all.. but for ipods, it might be well 13.36.21 # What kinds of problems? Do any seem filesystem related? 13.36.25 # it has some freezing and white noise with crossfade enabled at least 13.36.35 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.36.36 # not anything related to the filesyste afaik 13.36.41 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.37.13 # I don't use crossfade, so I don't know. 13.37.38 # jhMikeS: saw my last comment on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6409 ? 13.39.01 # linuxstb: but without rockbox, ipod seems to be completely useless for me at least. When i tried, i couldn't get it working with linux at all 13.41.46 # listening to music works quite well with the 30gb 5.5g (booted through ipod loader 2) ... haven't used other features of rockbox yet 13.43.10 # true.. at least enabling the second core should help with ui performance a lot 13.43.17 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.44.29 # and it would be also great to get the specs of the lcd.. then it could be possible to switch it off for saving battery 13.45.06 # I don't think we can even access the LCD controller. IIUC, the lcd is physically connected to the Broadcom chip, and all communication goes via that. 13.45.21 # oh 13.45.56 # is there any documentation even for that broadcom video chip then? 13.46.57 # Nope. 13.47.02 # or in worst case apple has a proprietary implementation of that as well 13.47.04 # :/ 13.47.24 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 13.47.36 # Broadcom is another of those companies who keep theit docs secret :( 13.47.46 # *their 13.49.04 # Kasperle: Can you start the Apple firmware on your 5.5g? 13.49.10 # (with ipodloader2) 13.49.17 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 13.49.21 # r u guys preparing for zune port? 13.49.48 # linuxstb: no 13.50.01 # muesli: Not really. If the gigabeat S port goes anywhere, the zune will be likely to follow soon after 13.50.37 # wud be great to kick m$ ass 13.51.01 # linuxstb: i don't think it'd be that hard to fix though. just seems that tempel doesn't have a lot of time to work on it these days. and i'm rather busy myself, otherwise i'd have spent some time to work on it 13.51.03 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3106.gwdg.de) 13.51.43 # I may get kicked off this channel for saying so, but I think a Linux port to the Zune would be more interesting than Rockbox, given the Zune's monster of a CPU and wi-fi capability. 13.52.16 # or netbsd :D 13.52.36 # what kind of cpu does it have? does it come with an mmu? 13.52.37 Join pill [0] (i=pill@66.252.8.130) 13.52.51 # Kasperle: I think it's a 500MHz ARM, with mmu and fpu. 13.52.53 # Freescale i.MX31L 13.53.16 # Yep, what linuxstb said. 13.53.44 # huh, what overkill :) 13.53.55 # Slasheri: Yes, no fun at all... 13.54.20 # Well, it's the L version, which doesn't have the graphics engine built in :p 13.54.38 # still nice specs 13.55.22 # Yeah, getting video with sound will be pretty effortless. But this is all speculation, because it also has security features to the teeth, which if the manufacturers decided to enable would make hacking it VERY difficult 13.56.32 # hmm, what kind of security features? 13.56.37 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 13.57.26 # The main one is a system which verifys the bootloader somehow to prevent 3rd party code. 13.58.11 # petur: Did you try using "__attribute__((noinline))" on show_list_title()? 13.58.39 # that sounds weird and bad.. 13.59.59 # dan_a: amiconn told me the archos should normally get build without inlining but gcc may do so differently if calling the function causes more overhead 14.00.16 # reminds me of the xbox ... now someone'll have to come up with a malformed media file that can cause code execution ;) 14.00.36 # Ah. 14.00.37 # Yeah, if that's the case I think the only entry might be a buffer overflow. 14.01.57 # Is the firmware itself unencrypted? i.e. can we disassemble it? 14.02.48 # Yes, I think so. It's a windows CE image (if you like I can provide), but I don't know how to disassemble it. 14.13.01 # markun: gigabeats have no FM tuner, right? 14.14.50 # only the S 14.14.59 # bah 14.16.07 # we would like to make a custom dock connector. Maybe it could also have FM radio. 14.18.24 # I'm still looking for a device for my father: large display, 40GB+ storage, cradle, FM radio, rockboxable 14.24.31 # h340 14.25.11 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p549340DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.25.27 # yes, probably the only option right now 14.26.06 # display too small and it would be nice to have line-out/ac/usb on the craddle 14.29.25 # the only thing lacking from the Gigabeat is FM radio then 14.30.16 # yes.. maybe he can live without it... will ask him this afternoon and then go looking for one 14.33.18 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 14.33.40 Part pixelma 14.36.20 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 14.47.05 Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@spynet.sm.chereda.net) 14.47.23 # Hi! 14.47.24 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 14.47.30 # dan_a; no progress? 14.53.53 # is there any of rockbox plugins that are not in lit in the site? 14.56.45 # all a dead :( 15.02.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.11.23 # petur: gcc -Os causes gcc to only inline functions if that doesn't increase code size, or if you force it to 15.14.16 Quit Quazgaa (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.15.02 # petur: I'm almost sure that the little keyword 'static' would have had the same effect as reverting to a #define 15.15.18 # shall I try? 15.15.44 # Thing is, if a function isn't declared static, gcc needs to keep a non-inlined copy even if it inlines the function within that source file 15.16.10 # ah yes, quite possible 15.16.14 # ...because non-static functions might be used from outside the current source file 15.16.41 # using static had crossed my mind after the initial commit 15.17.07 # I guess that's even a possibility for some size savings: going through all the source files and making all functions static which aren't called from the outside 15.24.16 Quit jba (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.25.36 # anybody know of a windows tool that joins a whole bunch of wav files without altering the audio itself (resampling) ? 15.27.59 # audacity? 15.28.57 Nick MetalGearHCS is now known as hcs (n=agashlin@nat01-silvers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 15.30.28 # sox? 15.42.27 Quit muesli ("ich will Kühe!!!") 15.44.36 # Slasheri: still around? 15.45.55 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.46.42 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p549323D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.49.03 # JdGordon: hi 15.49.08 # hey 15.49.09 # Gnelik: No progress. You will see in the logs, on the forums and in the changelog if there is any progress. 15.49.15 # did you see my q yesterday? 15.49.51 # hmm, probably didn't notice that 15.50.02 # at least it's not in my hilights 15.50.34 # is is possible/easy to iterate through the list of albums if tc is enabled? and if it is, can it be done even if its not in the id3 browser? 15.50.47 # ah, that question :) 15.50.51 # yes, it's possible 15.51.08 # you can directly use the tagcache api that is provided by tagcache.h 15.52.54 # I have to do a search for it? 15.53.02 # i mean, a search in tagcache 15.53.51 # if you want a list of albums, yes 15.54.07 # you can check tagtree.c for examples how to use the api 15.54.23 # ok thanks 15.54.35 # basically you need to call: tagcache_search, tagcache_get_next and tagcache_finish functions 15.59.14 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.59.19 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) 15.59.45 # Slasheri: ok ta, i'll probably bug you tommorow when i get stuck 15.59.54 # hehe :) 16.01.52 Quit ashes (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.04.19 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.11.00 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) 16.13.17 Quit godzirra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.13.23 Nick Soap is now known as Soap_ (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 16.14.09 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.15.37 Quit Soap_ () 16.15.46 Quit PaulJam (".") 16.17.54 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 16.18.03 Join Captain_Apathy [0] (n=Joe@ool-45750729.dyn.optonline.net) 16.18.07 Part Captain_Apathy 16.18.38 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable085.56-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) 16.19.39 Join scorche` [0] (i=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.20.54 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.24.07 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 16.39.14 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 17.02.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.11.22 Quit SimonSelki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.16.59 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 17.18.18 Join newbyx86 [0] (n=newbyx86@ip68-7-21-196.sd.sd.cox.net) 17.21.50 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-155.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr) 17.24.09 Quit Gnelik (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.29.48 Join daurn [0] (i=daurn@124.243.164.7) 17.30.34 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.38.11 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 17.43.37 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.47.39 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 17.47.56 # Hi there.. 17.49.17 # Hi where 17.50.01 # lol 17.50.21 # * petur takes another pill against deja-vu 17.50.39 # * PaulPosition takes some of the same 17.57.06 Join Swagger [0] (n=reow@c220-237-151-13.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.58.25 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 18.01.11 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 18.04.46 Quit Swagger () 18.05.12 Join Ekron [0] (n=adf@c218136.adsl.hansenet.de) 18.06.57 # could someone commit http://pastebin.ca/273145 ? 18.11.57 Quit funky (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.12.00 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 18.13.53 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 18.15.03 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964CF3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.16.41 Join Everybody|away [0] (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.16.46 # hai 18.17.19 # once I've finished backing up my music etc I'll be able to install Rockbox! woo! 18.17.25 # happy happy happy 18.17.47 # where did everybody go? 18.18.51 Quit XavierGr () 18.18.55 # preparing for christmas? 18.19.48 # I didn't go anywhere :p 18.19.50 # heh 18.20.00 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.20.07 # dunno why I'm |away I didn't set away 18.20.13 # wut? 18.20.26 # :o NickServ tells me that this nick is already owned... 18.20.48 # bastads 18.21.11 # I'm currently "Everybody" on 5 servers 18.21.43 # If everybody installs Rockbox... that means we've acheived world domination! Yay us! 18.21.49 # yay you :p 18.22.15 # though the screens in the manual don't look nearly as good as the default firmware on my H10 18.22.20 # woo 18.22.28 # just black text on blue background or something 18.22.50 # is there any way to make it look sexay? :p 18.23.04 # everybody - That's the default because there are many players with only b/w lcds... 18.23.13 # oh 18.23.21 # everybody - But if you look at WPS gallery you'll see plenty of SUPER themes. 18.23.24 # but is there a way to make it look nicer? 18.23.25 # oooooh 18.23.36 # Or you can make your own. Last part of the manual describe the process. 18.23.40 # what about the browser, are there themes for that? 18.23.52 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.181.97) 18.23.58 # Open bugs in tracker: April: 80 May: 78 June: 96 July: 106 August: 130 September: 151 October: 148 November: 146 December: 151 18.23.58 # do the themes change the whole theme or just the playing screen 18.24.15 # Most WPS also theme the browser itself.. backdrop, text color, selectline type (either inverted or a bullet on the left) etc.. 18.27.00 # Everybody - Be advised that some of those WPS/themes use different builds with patches applied to them, like the ones with album art. Those builds can be found sometimes in the 'other builds' section of the rockbox forum or often on player-specific forums (like misticriver.net for iRiver fanatics, etc..) 18.27.35 # (I of course not speaking to everybody, I'm just telling everybody.. Uh... Argh. Gosh i hate that nick ;) ) 18.28.31 Nick Genre9mp3 is now known as nobody_ (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 18.28.57 # yaaaaay it worked 18.29.05 # ok 18.29.15 # actually I sorta like this black/white theme :D 18.29.21 Nick nobody_ is now known as Genre9mp3 (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-202.customers.vivodi.gr) 18.29.44 Quit scorche` (Connection timed out) 18.29.48 # Everybody - at least try the iCatcher theme that's been installed with the build, you might like it. ;) 18.29.54 # ok 18.30.01 # everybody - it's been redone just yesterday. :p 18.30.08 # ok :p 18.30.30 # uh, the problem with having your life on a USB key is when you lose your USB key :( 18.30.41 # like your mobile phone... 18.30.43 # PaulPosition: redone for the grayscale screens + the new versions for Sansa 18.31.10 # it's rather confusing to start off with, the scrollpad is now 2 seperate buttons :p 18.31.50 # genremp3 - Doh.. I thought he/she(?) would also have finetuned the small errors like lines overlapping icons.. Oh well, nothing one can't change all by himself. :) 18.31.54 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 18.32.05 # Everybody - Yeah, H10 right? 18.32.13 # yah 18.32.23 # is there a main menu anwhere :s haha 18.32.34 # PaulPosition: lines overlapping icons??? 18.32.37 # everybody - We do have some trouble reading from the Analog-Digital Converter so the trackpad is a bit jumpy. 18.32.39 # RTFM!! ;-) 18.32.42 # ok 18.32.46 # haha ok 18.32.54 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549663F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.33.24 # The Fine one or the Fu..en one? 18.33.33 # huh? 18.33.34 # Fine of course 18.33.37 # ;) 18.33.39 # ah 18.34.59 # dan_a: do you still need to have that i2s patch tested? 18.36.28 # barrywardell: I do - I don't know if I've got the logic right 18.36.40 # Barry: you lost a tester for h10's as I had to put OF back on for RMA (disc is soon to be dead me think). Still wishing you good luck with porting to all those devices 'cause, well, I'll be back. 18.37.08 # dan_a: i'll test on my h10 and an ipod color now 18.37.38 # Thanks 18.38.29 Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.38.33 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p549864A5.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.43 # PaulPosition: that's a pity. what happened your h10? 18.39.50 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 18.40.07 Join DreamThief|off [0] (n=mathias@p54A82A2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.40.34 # barrywardell - Nothing extraordinary. Started freezing when accessing some files, even in UMS mode, which sent me into panic mode. Surface scan revealed lots of bad sectors so it being a refurb and only having 90days of warranty, I thought it better put the OF on and start read-writing till it dies an ignomnious (sp?) death. :p 18.41.10 # ignominious, but I still don't know what it means 18.42.45 # hcs - lol.. something like patheticly bad... Like that roman emperor who died when some other roman dude said "you like gold? Well drink some" before filling him up with the melted stuff. That would be an ignominious death. :p 18.47.16 # Damn that stupid thing. After windoze scandisk, linux badsectors and fsck, after seagate's Seatools told me it was going to crash in a matter of minutes, now that I filled it up to the brink, it doesn't find anymore bad sector. Okay, so maybe the fourth reformat moved the badblocks out and pulled some free ones from the reserve? (microdrives work like that too, no?) 18.48.29 # i think scandisk can mark sectors of a disk as bad and not for use. 18.49.35 # Indeed but when I tested under all those yesterday it was no use (ie, after scandisc surfacescan, badblocks and seagate would still find plenty bad blocks and advise me to backup and pray..) lol 18.50.37 # weird 18.51.00 # Guess I'll test some more waiting for that RM Authorization.. Can't send 'em a functionning unit, I'd be joked about for years when they go for the friday 5:00-7:00 beerbashes. 18.51.59 Quit DreamThief (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.58.17 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.181.97) 18.58.17 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.01.01 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.01.25 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 19.02.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.03.02 # dan_a: white noise on my H10 :( 19.03.45 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 19.04.13 # barrywardell_: I'll sort that out 19.04.28 # do you know what the problem is? 19.04.40 Nick barrywardell_ is now known as barrywardell (n=barrywar@194.46.181.97) 19.05.02 # bitwise logic? 19.06.08 # I'm pretty sure that's it - I've not thought things through properly - it'll be the code in i2s-pp.c 19.06.14 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.06.19 Quit Ribs ("leaving") 19.07.14 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 19.07.14 # i'll see if i can spot anything 19.07.36 # Yep - I could see it straight away - there's a load of |= that should be = 19.08.32 # ah, ok 19.09.03 # Petur - Was it you who, few weeks ago, removed all APE tags from your files? If so, how did you proceed. If not, well, nevermind.. :o 19.10.48 # not me... 19.10.53 Part hcs 19.11.12 # petur - thanks anyway :)| 19.12.12 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 19.14.05 # barrywardell: Try this: http://pastebin.ca/273188 19.14.26 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 19.14.28 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.14.59 # cool, i'll test now 19.18.41 Join webguest06 [0] (i=5873b21c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7915f30cd8d02077) 19.19.26 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 19.23.57 # dan_a: still white noise 19.29.14 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 19.29.57 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.32.07 Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.198.174) 19.32.28 Nick DreamThief|off is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A82A2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.32.34 # barrywardell: Found it! See if you can spot where I've used binary instead of hex... 19.32.44 # i just spotted it too 19.32.53 # FIFO_FORMAT_32LSB 19.33.01 # change that to 0x3? 19.33.08 # That's the one. Yes. 19.37.01 # We should be able to set BIT.FORMAT, BIT.SIZE and FIFO.FORMAT in one line of C 19.37.25 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.142.209) 19.38.55 # that was the problem. it works fine now on my h10 19.39.14 # barrywardell - recording? 19.39.34 # nope, changes to make way for the sansa 19.39.51 # although i have had working recording at one stage 19.40.25 # barrywardell - Ah right, it's true they share so many files.. 19.41.58 # PaulPosition: What we're doing here is separating a function that they do share (initialising the I2S bus) from a file that they don't share (the Wolfson codec driver) 19.43.06 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.43.25 # dan_a: Uh uh, makes sense. 19.43.42 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 19.46.16 # jhMikeS: Swcodec recording is seriously broken in cvs :( 19.47.05 # If you enter the recording screen, it appears to be working okay, but after some time (seconds to minutes) the peakmeter stops displaying anything 19.47.24 # barrywardell: I'll go ahead and commit that then. I guess the next step is to add API functions to change bit size, bit format, FIFO size, FIFO format, master/slave status, etc. 19.47.38 # If a recording is running at this time, it stops 19.48.11 # If you try to start a recording, rockbox pretends to record, but the file size and recording time stay at 0 19.48.21 # All this observed on X5... 19.48.53 # I only have that wheb (quickly) stopping and starting recording 19.49.03 # dan_a: yes, looks good to commit. i'm just about to test on an ipod color to be totally sure, but it looks fine to me 19.49.05 # *when 19.49.19 # gtg now 19.49.25 Quit petur ("later") 19.50.22 # Dan_a/Barrywardell: Have you guys found out what was killing crossfeed and pitch with that bootloader of yours? 19.51.02 # PaulPosition: No. It's very confusing! 19.51.16 # PaulPosition: no. but I didn't really look into it either 19.51.53 # Ah okay. :) 19.57.49 Quit [sellout] ("Freedom is for outlaws") 19.59.01 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 20.01.52 # where is the crossfeed code? 20.02.02 Join SimonSelki [0] (n=SimonSel@adsl-69-155-118-184.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) 20.02.44 # Man, so I got this tag editor so I could mass edit my tags 20.02.47 Quit Ribs (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.02.47 # and it worked great 20.03.00 Quit TeaSea (Connection timed out) 20.03.03 # no more wierd titles 20.03.31 # but for some reason, one of the albums I upload comes up as for the first twelve songs 20.03.35 # I can't figure it out 20.04.05 # I've tried tagging them like 4 times 20.04.16 # and re initializing and rebooting too 20.04.19 # any ideas? 20.04.50 # barrywardell: apps/dsp.c and apps/dsp_arm.S 20.04.57 # what tags is your tagger writing? 20.05.00 # In the WPS screen even, it shows the tittle and album and artist 20.05.10 # id3v1.1 20.05.27 # but in the browser, it just says 20.05.53 # are you using the Database view or FileTree view? 20.06.25 # and when I brows the files with the Show Files >> Show All on they come up as 01. and 02. 20.06.36 # like, they still have their track numbers in front 20.06.41 # see prior question. 20.07.06 # so, it sounds to me like the actual file names are "01. .mp3" etc. 20.07.11 # what I described first was the Database, and what I just... yeah 20.07.23 # but I've looked at em.... their not 20.07.31 # it shows up like that 20.07.35 Quit PaulPosition (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.07.35 # only on my iPod 20.07.39 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Operation timed out) 20.07.56 Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.172.161) 20.08.30 # so you are using the Database (formerly TagCache) to browse your music, and the tags show up on the WPS but not when browsing the files? Do I have the situation right? 20.09.07 # yeah, that's right 20.09.46 # I'm really new to Rockbox though, I didn't know it was formerly TagCache. Makes sense though. 20.10.25 # Hold on, I got that wrong, in the file browser, it shows the real name of the files 20.10.26 # I do not use the Database myself - what tags do you have it set up to view your music by? 20.10.37 # id3v1.1 20.10.52 # because id3v2 takes a long time to tag 20.11.02 # dan_a: thanks. that patch works fine on ipod color too btw. 20.11.57 Join habana [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1af07ecfb3e3fbcb) 20.12.20 # I'm guessing now that it's just not databasing right when I initialize... 20.13.01 Quit atrus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.14.22 # SimonSelki: I mean which tag are you browing by in the database? 20.14.59 # oh, album 20.15.03 # I'm sorry 20.15.17 Join atrus [0] (i=atrus@S01060000b48e3b44.cg.shawcable.net) 20.16.43 # can you DCC me a file that is not showing up properly? 20.17.08 # hmmm...... now it jjust has all the tracks on my iPod in one huge directory when I go to database 20.17.10 # DCC? 20.17.32 # an IRC file transfer protocol. 20.17.53 # sure 20.18.03 # Sorry, I'm new to IRC as well 20.21.04 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 20.29.02 Join Ensgabe [0] (n=ensgabe@cpe-74-67-68-61.stny.res.rr.com) 20.31.27 Quit scorche ("Leaving") 20.34.05 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.34.32 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 20.35.16 # Hey there- I'm having some trouble building the Gigabeat build, and I'm clueless at this point; anyone willing to give a hapless newbie some help? 20.35.57 # Hey, what's a gigabeat build? 20.36.31 # Just building Rockbox for a Toshiba gigabeat player 20.36.47 # I'm 90% sure that the problem is target agnostic, though 20.37.12 # oh, I see 20.37.15 # Okay 20.37.18 # Ensgabe: Describe the problem. 20.40.29 # I've got gcc installed for the target platform (arm) and I have arm-elf-gcc in my path. Individual modules build, but they don't link together 20.41.06 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.41.22 # Can you post the error messages you get on http://pastebin.ca 20.42.11 # SimonSelki: ? 20.42.19 # Your tracks have no track # tag. 20.42.33 # SimonSelki: you tracks have no track name tag. 20.42.38 # only artist and album 20.42.41 # thus your problem 20.42.51 Join Atomicsunset [0] (n=Atomicsu@dynamic-acs-24-144-249-148.zoominternet.net) 20.43.20 # http://pastebin.ca/273268 20.43.21 # Ensgabe: rockbox cvs doesn't contain all the changes to build it for the gigabeat 20.43.26 # better come to #gigabeat 20.43.28 # That can't be right 20.43.37 # I've redone the tags like 4 times now 20.43.38 # I'm looking at the tags right now. 20.43.44 # .. 20.43.46 # Ok 20.44.12 # Wait... then how does it show in the WPS? 20.44.28 # I can't speak to that. 20.44.38 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.44.41 # No, they must have tags 20.44.44 # unless the WPS has a conditional to display file name when track tag is missing? 20.44.58 # I'm looking at the tags - they don't. Period. 20.44.59 # ? 20.48.32 # Man, what the hel 20.48.39 # I really did tag them 20.48.44 # It doesn't make sense 20.48.59 # even in the Tag Viewer in Rockbox it shows tags man 20.49.32 # I don't know how it could - the file you sent me does not have a track #, a track title, a year, or any tag outside Artist and Album. 20.50.25 Quit godzirra (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.46 # ....man one sec 20.50.54 # I'm going to double tripple check everything 20.52.08 # with iriver firmware my h320 skips sometimes 20.52.19 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.52.19 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.52.26 # its 3 days old, refurbished. i never dropped it 20.53.22 # hmm 20.53.46 # I'm goin to restart my comp and see what I can do here, it's not even reading my ipod as connected 20.53.53 # thanks for telling me though 20.54.13 # I'll be back here or email you with updates 20.54.19 # I have to go to work.... 20.55.01 Quit SimonSelki ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 20.55.23 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.00.13 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 21.00.57 # i was thinking. it'd be nice to have voice recognision login for portable audio players (ones which have microphones) 21.00.58 Quit Atomicsunset () 21.02.01 # to secure our music 21.02.09 # ashes - I'd rather someone worked on a voice-generator.. I mean, there was one coming with my AdLib card, years before the first SoundBlaster. Those things were 8bits or something, ran on 25mhz 80386's... 21.02.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.03.08 # i saw a rockbox plugin for voice driven menus (it talks to you, not vise versa) 21.03.56 # ashes - It's no plugin, it's cvs.. But you have to either record or pregenerate the menu items and folder names voice files.. (or am I totally mistaken?) 21.04.55 # i think it has voice files 21.05.18 # i used to have a program that would read a text file 21.05.45 # years ago 21.05.46 # ashes - As I said, one was coming bundled with the very first sound card for pc. 21.06.27 # * Soap 's TI99/4A had a voice synthesis unit. 21.06.36 Join lost|X40 [0] (n=lostnihi@ppp-68-251-92-16.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 21.07.43 # im not sure how much storage the artificial voice needs for all the basic sounds, but i suspect its much less than the storage to specially record the names of each directory/filename 21.07.58 # the program i used sounded like crap though 21.08.15 # you needed to concentrate to figure out what it was saying 21.08.31 # they might be better now 21.08.59 # the telephone directory uses an artificial voice, i think 21.09.22 # and pretty decent voice recognision 21.09.25 # ashes - Sure but it beats having to braille-read and record mp3s for every album folder you add to your rockboxed DAP.. Or so I guess anyway, I'm not blind. 21.09.54 # ashes - Of course you can't have AT&T's Natural Language working from a DAP's small cpu. :o 21.11.58 # one day we will just be able to tell the player what song we want, or even the genre or mood 21.12.21 # 1ghz would be plenty 21.13.12 # ashes - sure. Maybe even get it to compose songs for us. "I'll take some drum with that synth, please" 21.13.16 # and the way they're being integrated with cellular phones, we should get a subscriber service that gives you an itunes-like database that lets you have access to every song ever made 21.13.35 Quit mirak (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.14.24 # it would be good for everyone 21.15.24 # fido makes a deal with itunes to sell mp3's at 5-10 cents each for a 30 day usage license 21.15.55 # the mp3/vorbis is encoded at fido with an expiry date 21.16.10 # so they get lots of repeat business 21.16.26 # with an option to buy the song perminently 21.17.19 # the phone would cost $2000 with the current market though 21.17.57 # a 140mhz phone with a 60gb storage flash 21.18.34 # 800mhz would play video better though 21.19.19 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 21.19.41 # and would have enough power to play video and encrypt incoming files at the same time, to squash any priating 21.20.25 # but for now i just want voice login 21.23.40 Quit akaias (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.47 # I wish my H10 would tell me in a robotized voice "all your mp3 are belong to us" or some such. :p 21.25.21 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-76-16-18-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.25.25 # i can't find voice login software for linux 21.25.33 # only fingerprint 21.25.46 # and its java 21.25.57 # omg 21.26.02 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B175C5.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.26.02 # you know what makes me hard 21.26.08 # http://youtube.com/watch?v=asY_I8y6C0M 21.26.08 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.26.22 # i have to buy a wiimote 21.26.36 # but good night now 21.27.39 Quit lostnihilist_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.29.25 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 21.33.53 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.34.03 Join habana [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-97e5d6ce9c4901ee) 21.34.13 # ashes:ksayit 21.37.27 Join webguest20 [0] (i=3e41836c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1fb8b3bf093a6050) 21.39.02 # I have a problem under cygwin. When I execute ../tools/configure I get the following error message: './tools/configure: line 22: syntax error near unexpected token `{ 21.39.14 # Any ideas? 21.40.02 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 21.40.18 # The line 22 in configure contains "input() {". Nothing special... 21.41.19 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.43.05 Part webguest20 ("Hmm... Nobody here. I'll ask tomorrow or on monday then... Bye!") 21.50.43 Quit shnee ("Konversation terminated!") 21.50.46 # <3 rockbox 21.50.51 # and I nearly typed cockbox there :s 21.50.55 # so be happy :p 21.50.59 Quit webguest06 ("CGI:IRC") 21.57.15 Quit spiorf (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.00.45 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.03.01 Quit GliTch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.04.32 Join ptw419 [0] (n=ptw419@66-90-180-190.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 22.06.05 Join niskel [0] (n=niskel@fctnnbsc15w-156034085070.nb.aliant.net) 22.06.31 # webguest20: use vmware image of debian system configured to build rockbox 22.08.00 # webguest20: this is usually a sign that the configure file contains dos cr/lf 22.08.11 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 22.08.35 # webguest20: if you convert them to unix lf it should work 22.37.25 Join GliTch_ [0] (i=GliTch_@24-171-53-170.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 22.47.34 Quit PaulPosition () 22.59.16 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.02.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.00 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 23.05.30 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-67-160-89-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 23.23.13 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.27.05 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 23.30.19 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.34.55 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 23.43.54 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.45.00 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 23.45.14 Join n0rp [0] (n=towpwnsl@ip68-6-232-71.sd.sd.cox.net) 23.46.23 Nick n0rp is now known as towelie (n=towpwnsl@ip68-6-232-71.sd.sd.cox.net) 23.46.32 Nick towelie is now known as towelie4365 (n=towpwnsl@ip68-6-232-71.sd.sd.cox.net) 23.47.24 # my ipod isn't stable with rockbox on it :-o 23.47.33 # crashes frequently 23.47.43 # "Data abort at 00041R18" 23.47.57 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.48.21 # I have the latest verion for iPod 4g greyscale 23.48.43 # anyone have any idea for the cause of this instability? 23.48.48 # all sorts of ideas. 23.48.51 # nice 23.49.02 # you up for building a custom build? 23.49.07 # Er 23.49.08 # depends 23.49.14 # compile it yourself? 23.49.27 # I don't feel like spending that much time on this 23.49.38 # I just want a stable environment 23.49.58 # so I don't have to use iTunes and I can add/remove files like a real drive 23.50.25 # Rockbox isn't the only way to avoid itunes. 23.50.30 # I know 23.50.38 # You can use anapod, yamipod, ephpod, sharepod, etc. 23.50.51 # I wan't to use an opensource program 23.50.57 # Ok, so you don't want to compile, I grok that. 23.51.24 # well, it depends on what the compilation requires 23.51.47 # Are you willing to give up all official support in exchange for stability? For at this time there is an Unsupported Buld for the 4th generation iPods in the forums. 23.51.47 # I have almost no knowledge in programing languages 23.52.17 # Really now 23.52.22 # I might ahve to try it out 23.52.42 # so is the supported build just unstable right now? 23.52.49 # not being an official product, you would need to test any problems you have on a regular build (to verify they are not a result of the unsupported build) before seeking help. 23.53.01 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 23.53.36 # There is an issue with the processor in the 4g / mini 1st gen not reacting as expected to attempts to change CPU frequency. 23.53.47 # ah 23.53.58 # so that is what causes its lack of stability? 23.53.59 # The unsupported build locks the processor at 75Mhz, preventing crashes, but consuming more power. 23.54.27 # I assume they are working on a fix for that in the supported build 23.55.39 # is there any other downfall to locking the processor at 75Mhz? 23.55.45 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 23.56.47 # I will stick to this build and just update :) 23.56.48 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@156.80-202-167.nextgentel.com) 23.56.58 # I don't use my ipod that often