--- Log for 10.12.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 hours and 58 minutes ago 00.00.28 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host111-146.pool8252.interbusiness.it) 00.00.37 Quit towelie4365 () 00.01.57 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 00.04.13 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp150-167.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.04.13 Quit webguest89 (Client Quit) 00.18.09 Join Natalie_GreeCe [0] (n=efdwfrg@ppp17-195.ath.forthnet.gr) 00.19.31 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-155.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr) 00.22.54 Quit Natalie_GreeCe (Client Quit) 00.24.59 Quit Ekron ("Leaving") 00.33.42 Quit mirak (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.42.22 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.47.12 Join AidyMole [0] (n=AidyMole@239.77-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 00.52.25 Quit ender` (" "Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." -- ) 00.54.04 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.54.06 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.55.15 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-229-67.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 00.55.19 Join corecode [0] (i=corecode@chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de) 00.55.26 # hey yo 00.55.50 # i'd like to know how the status of the archos gmini port is 00.55.55 # dead 00.55.55 # does rockbox build with gcc 4.1.1 yet? 00.56.02 # seems it's dead since over a year 00.56.16 # it was removd from cvs recently 00.56.20 # uh 00.56.21 # so its completly dead 00.56.21 # :/ 00.56.24 # sad 00.56.39 # the xs202 is such a nice and cheap player 00.57.27 # what was the holdup? 00.57.37 # nobody working on it? 00.57.43 # or, too complicated? 00.58.01 # i think none of the current devs had the target 00.58.09 # hey um I don't need g++ to compile rockbox right 00.58.16 # gcc 00.58.49 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.58.49 # so what's the advice which player to get? sadly barely any supports ogg 00.59.03 # iaudio \o/ 00.59.07 # the x5 is the current "best" iirc 00.59.38 # AidyMole: look here for more info on setting up a build environment http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide#Setup_Your_Environment 00.59.51 # n1s: i'm on that 01.00.09 # but gentoo has a cross compiling toolchain creation utility 01.01.16 # but it seems that the "hard" part was already done 01.01.36 # corecode: if noeone has one, no work can be done 01.01.43 # yah 01.01.46 # i'd get one 01.01.54 # and i would see how i can tackle with it 01.01.59 # the code was removed in a way it is relativly easy to put back in if the port got restatred 01.02.09 # cvs rm i guess 01.02.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.02.51 Join pike2k [0] (i=amiga@c83-249-55-88.bredband.comhem.se) 01.03.11 Nick pike2k is now known as PIKE2K (i=amiga@c83-249-55-88.bredband.comhem.se) 01.03.26 Nick PIKE2K is now known as pike2k (i=amiga@c83-249-55-88.bredband.comhem.se) 01.03.48 # i wonder if there is a reason that the manufaturers don't publish information 01.03.58 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.04.14 # so people dont rip off ther designs 01.04.21 # mh 01.04.49 # i mean, not that i insist on rockbox, it would just be nice to be able to play oggs 01.05.26 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.07.35 # __asm__ volatile ("nop"); 01.07.47 # is "nop" a standardized opcode for all architectures? 01.08.59 # sad that i don't have experience with embedded systems 01.09.12 # seems you don't use interrupts to read the hard disk 01.12.50 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 01.13.15 Quit linuxstb_ (Connection timed out) 01.13.28 Quit midkay_ ("*poff*") 01.15.42 Join funky_ [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 01.17.04 Quit funky_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.17.21 Join funky_ [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 01.17.41 Quit funky (Nick collision from services.) 01.17.51 Nick funky_ is now known as funky (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 01.21.38 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 01.35.31 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.43.14 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-143-238-95-7.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 01.44.30 # anyone out there know anything about gigabeat status? 01.45.54 # its moving sowly 01.46.16 # hmmm 01.46.31 # im in the market for a new DAP is all, and the gigabeat X's look snazzy 01.47.19 # rockbox provides UMS music transfers on all platforms doesnt it? 01.47.25 # yes 01.47.48 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 01.48.29 # nice... thats the main for me... dont particularly want another h300 or ipod... 01.50.14 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.51.12 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.54.07 # do you or anyone possibly reading know if the gigabeat has UMS music transfer on its original firmware? 01.54.27 # im sure someon knows.... i doubt it 01.56.09 # what's UMS? 01.56.19 # like zune? 01.56.43 # ums = universal mass storage 01.56.50 # like regular usb drives 01.56.51 # ah 01.57.10 # how everything should be done 01.57.21 # yes 01.57.45 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 01.58.12 # god i hate transfering music across through programs like itunes... and organizing your files by ID3 tags 01.58.22 # nasty with compilation cds etc 01.59.34 # fortunately itunes can handle this pretty well 02.02.47 # im not a fan of itunes at all sorry... 02.03.21 # like organizing me music myself with good old files and folders 02.03.25 # my* 02.18.04 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@resnet-237-154.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 02.22.15 Quit Kittt0s (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.22.27 Join bakalegum [0] (n=baka@84.12.76.86) 02.22.44 Join Kitt0s [0] (i=Kaa@87.68.52.163.cable.012.net.il) 02.25.07 Part bakalegum 02.26.39 # a few months back, i was able to create an ipod bootloader without the apple firmware. 02.26.55 # i seem to remember creating a dummy file for the ipod_fw command 02.27.11 # i need to do it again, but it keeps on failing to boot 02.27.34 # does anyone rememeber how to do this? 02.27.47 # I seem to remember that the dummy file needed to be a minimum size - 512 bytes? 02.28.34 Part n1s 02.28.53 # yes, ive tried that. 02.29.01 # without luck. 02.30.37 Quit newbyx86 (Remote closed the connection) 02.34.55 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.37.41 Quit obo ("bye") 02.42.04 Quit [sellout] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.59.37 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 03.00.54 Join Voriel [0] (i=443ae3f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-57ff9dfa25662be9) 03.01.45 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.02.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.43 # Hi. I'm a newbie to Rockbox, and am visually impaired. I wondered if someone would be willing to help me with a problem I'm having trying to make the latest Rockbox daily build speak my directory/filenames as mp3 clips on my Ipod color/photo. I used the Voicebox script, and it appears to have made the *.talk directories, but it won't read them as words, just as numbers or spelling. Can anyone offer any help? 03.06.28 Quit JoeBorn ("please wait, I'm getting the power yanked here") 03.06.41 Part AidyMole 03.08.09 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@222.76.229.178) 03.09.27 Part Voriel 03.11.54 Nick DreamThief is now known as DreamThief|off (n=mathias@p54A82A2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.12.25 Quit roolku () 03.19.31 Quit MrStaticVoid ("leaving") 03.20.29 Quit barrywardell () 03.23.14 Nick myzar|away is now known as myzar (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) 03.24.36 Join DreamThief0 [0] (n=mathias@p54A845A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.24.48 Nick DreamThief0 is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A845A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.26.11 Quit [sellout] (Connection timed out) 03.26.58 Join [sellout] [0] (n=sellout@c-69-241-206-137.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 03.30.47 Quit DreamThief|off (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.41.17 Quit niskel (Remote closed the connection) 03.49.13 Join Paul_the_Nerd [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 03.49.47 Join funky_ [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 03.50.51 Quit funky_ (Client Quit) 03.51.18 Join funky_ [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 03.52.22 Quit funky (Nick collision from services.) 03.52.36 Nick funky_ is now known as funky (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) 04.02.31 Quit Membrillo () 04.11.31 Join yewei [0] (n=yewei@61.171.220.114) 04.12.18 # anyone know the status of the "Dual Boot on Sansa e200"? 04.13.05 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 04.13.48 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@129.237.2.66) 04.14.28 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 04.14.34 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.20.11 Join SimonSelki [0] (n=SimonSel@adsl-69-155-118-184.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) 04.20.57 # Soap, are you there? 04.21.08 # yoyoyo 04.22.55 # Aight, I still don't know why it didn't have tags 04.23.14 # what I just did was transfer all the id3v1.1 tags to id3v2 and it worked 04.23.21 # they are all showing up right 04.23.29 # but it was a peculiar situation 04.23.38 # I have it plugged in right now 04.23.51 # doesn't sound like a Rockbox issue, though. 04.23.58 # What tagger are you using? 04.24.15 # MP3 Tag Tools v1.2 04.24.26 # It's a simple proggie that lets me mass tag 04.24.37 # er, how can I listen to my iPod while I have it plugged in? 04.25.12 # A - you really really need to read, at least browse, the maual. 04.25.23 # I did, several times 04.25.28 # B - eject, disconnect, an let the ipod reboot,. 04.25.49 # C - once you are safely in Rockbox, press and hold the "menu" key while inserting the USB cable. 04.26.08 # I was flipping through just now, I know I saw the answer in the FAQ for sure 04.26.33 # iPod Rockbox has no USB mode of its own, when it detects a USB connection it reboots into Apple's Disk Mode. 04.26.58 # Thanks, there's a lot of little..... wait, really? 04.27.11 # really what? 04.27.17 # so, I can't..... will..... hold on one sec 04.27.30 Join haywire [0] (n=downcast@pool-71-107-13-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.27.35 # i need help 04.27.36 # !! 04.27.46 # It's still charging? 04.27.59 # anyone here good with installing rockbox on 5g video 04.28.03 # This guy is more urgent I guess 04.28.03 # very slowly SimonSelki. 04.28.04 # ive been struggling for hours 04.28.19 # Thank you once again soap 04.28.35 # haywire: Start by detailing what steps you have taken, what error messages you are getting. Details details details. 04.28.43 # It's fully charged, I just don't like wasting the battery 04.29.23 # more likely than not, SimonSelki, your ipod will actually lose charge when running rockbox while plugged into USB. 04.29.38 Join Elara [0] (i=443ae3f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2ce07745834930ba) 04.29.50 # well i went through alot of installation helps. i searched forums at ipodhacks.com. i did everything perfectly and at the end when i have to disconnect my usb from my ipod an error message with a white background comes out saying: Use itunes to restore (also in other languages) 04.30.10 # Then you didn't do everything perfectly. 04.30.45 # do you still have your original, untouched bootloader.bin file? 04.30.45 # is it necessary to use the cmd prompt to install rockbox 04.30.50 # i deleted everything 04.30.53 # im starting over 04.30.56 # The only method I am familiar with is from the command prompt. 04.30.56 # :O 04.31.07 # oh okay. 04.31.18 # Anyone willing to help a Rockbox newbie with, what I'm sure are, some stupid questions? 04.31.18 # ive been reading u can do it without the cmd prompt 04.31.25 # How are you going to start over? Are you going to let itunes wipe your ipod? Or are you going to write back the bootloader.bin file you originally extracted? 04.31.33 # Elara: ask. 04.31.41 # I'll help if I can 04.31.42 # i first let itunes wipe out my ipod. 04.31.47 # and i deleted everything 04.32.11 # i have just reinstalled the bootloader bin 04.32.38 # reboot, haywire, what do you get? 04.32.46 # my ipod? 04.33.12 # yes, reboot your ipod. 04.33.14 # hm. 04.33.17 # any progress on 80 gigs? 04.33.25 # now that you have reinstalled your original bootloader.bin. 04.33.33 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-155.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr) 04.33.45 # myzar: not to the best of my knowledge, check the New Ports forum 04.33.50 # well the reboot is fine now because i already restored my ipod 04.33.56 # it removed all my mp3s,mp4s 04.34.03 # I'm using the 12/28/2006 daily build of Rockbox for my 60GB Ipod color photo. I'm visually impaired, so maybe I'm doing something wrong, or it's not reading something I need to do, but I'm trying to change my background and foreground colors, and can't get it to work. I get into where you can see/highlight the RGB settings, but it won't let me change them. 04.34.18 # ahh, so you didn't manually replace the one file, you let itunes wipe and reinstall the hard way. 04.34.27 # nope 04.34.30 # yeah 04.34.32 # hah 04.35.12 # this is the bootloader im using 04.35.12 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootloader-video.bin 04.35.36 # haywire: You're following the install instructions from the Rockbox wiki? 04.35.53 # Elara: I'm sorry, I don't have my ipod nearby, and I am not familiar enough with that part of the menu to walk you through it without having my ipod in hand. 04.36.09 # im following these directions 04.36.10 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 04.36.28 # Elara: From what I can tell, navigating in Rockbox can be fickle in some of the menues. Use the RWD and FFD buttons to change between R G and B 04.36.41 # and scroll to change the, 04.36.43 # haywire: And you get no error messages on any steps? 04.36.44 # *them 04.36.52 # nope 04.37.01 # haywire: let us follow the instructions at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation together. 04.37.13 # That's how it works on my Nano 04.37.15 # okay 04.37.16 # You tell me each command before you type it in, and I'll say yes or no. 04.37.21 # okay 04.37.28 Join Presence_ [0] (n=presence@c-67-165-196-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 04.37.29 # haywire: Finish the steps up to 5, and tell us the sizes of the apple_os.bin and broadcom bin files. 04.37.37 # Or, once you get there with Soap 04.37.48 # anyone know what I need to do to get an ipod photo remote to work? 04.37.56 # well first i made the folder in c: 04.38.02 # c:\rockbox 04.38.19 # Presence: use the stock firmware :( 04.38.26 # haywire ok 04.38.30 # Presence_: Spend a little time reverse engineering the protocol. 04.38.30 # and put the files bootloader-video.bin , ipod_fw, ipodpatcher 04.38.40 # so its not possible? Refuse to use stock, it doesnt bookmark mp3 04.38.42 # haywire: ok 04.38.52 # ok in the cmdprompt 04.38.56 # my ipod is located at: ipodpatcher 1 04.38.56 # paul: Well, I guess I could break out the oscope and probe 04.39.03 # Presence_: It is possible, just not done yet. 04.39.07 # but I know nothing of ipod electronics 04.39.19 # Presence_: IpodLiniux has the protocol documented. 04.39.24 # sure it is..I was just hoping it was already dont :) 04.39.29 # ipodpatcher -r 1 bootpartition.bin 04.39.32 # Soap: Not fully, I don't believe. 04.39.33 # good 04.39.34 # thats what i should type in next right? 04.39.40 # yes haywire 04.40.02 # okay at the end it says done 04.40.13 # now this 04.40.14 # ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin 04.40.23 # yes 04.40.24 # Thanks Soap and SimonSelki! My other problem is that I can't seem to get Rockbox to speak directory/file names. I ran the Voicebox script, and it appears to have put the *.talk files out there. I've selected talk .mp3 in the voice menu for both files and directories, but it still just reads folder numbers or spells, no matter how many reboots I do. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere. Does the Voicebox script not 04.40.45 # ok it doesnt say anything after i type that 04.40.53 # ipod_fw -o apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin -e 1 bootpartition.bin 04.40.56 # bbiab 04.40.57 Part Presence_ 04.40.59 Quit funky ("leaving") 04.41.07 # haywire: yes 04.41.13 # Elara: Your message got cut off after "Does the Voicebox script not" because it was too long. 04.41.41 # okay 04.41.45 # it says nothing after that also 04.41.45 # and now 04.41.47 # ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin 04.41.48 # ? 04.41.52 # I just asked, "Does the Voicebox script not work with the Ipod color/photo?" 04.41.53 # Elara: You should check the .talk files, and make sure they are not 0 in size. In fact, if you rename them to .mp3, you should be able to play them in a standard mp3 player to make sure the files themselves are valid. It's possible for the script to fail to create valid files, depending on your computer. 04.42.18 # haywire: yes 04.42.48 # generating firmware image compatible with ipod video 04.43.01 # and now 04.43.04 # ipodpatcher -w 1 rockboot.bin 04.43.07 # ? 04.43.38 # might want to tell Paul_the_Nerd file sizes now, before you write back to the ipod. 04.43.50 # the sizes of my files in rockbox 04.44.03 # oh 04.44.07 # appleosbin and droadcombin 04.44.08 # haywire: What size are the apple_os.bin and apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin 04.44.08 # apple_os.bin ? 04.44.49 # apple_os(file size: 7,327) 04.45.06 # apple_sw_5g_rcsc size: 4,229 04.45.12 # Thanks Paul_The_Nerd. I'll check them. Should I run the script on the root directory of my Ipod? That's what I did. Plus, my Rockbox DB was created from initializing the iTunes/Ipod DB of the music I'd put on the player with iTunes. Could that potentially cause a problem? 04.45.32 # wow, quite different from mine (relatively) 04.45.37 # -_-- 04.45.38 # Elara: Are you browsing in filetree mode, or database mode? Database mode doesn't use the talk files, I believe. 04.45.40 # =( 04.45.42 # must be the different version of Apple OS. 04.45.50 # Soap: Yeah, shouldn't they both be in the ~5mb to 5.5mb range? 04.46.06 # haywire: How old/new is your iPod, and what size disk is it? 04.46.08 # I have 6.2 and 5 04.46.23 # i bought my ipod about 2 months ago 30gig 04.46.26 # black video ipod 04.46.32 # doh, it is a 5.5 G 04.46.38 # oh 04.46.38 # no. 04.46.40 # !! 04.46.42 # aww 04.46.47 # how can u tell 04.46.50 # if its a 5.5 04.46.53 # age 04.47.15 # It's very very likely a 5.5G, and the firmware sizes plus the problems you're having suggest it is. 04.47.21 # Paul_The_Nerd: I'm in Database Mode. The install said to change my setting to that after installation/initialization so that I could browse/search by Artist, genre, etc. 04.47.25 # I'm sorry, I brainfarted, I thought you had a 60 gig video. 04.47.32 # oic 04.48.08 # Good news is that Rockbox is working on the 30GB 5.5gen models. 04.48.13 Part yewei 04.48.15 # aww yess 04.48.15 # Elara: Unfortunately, since the database mode isn't actually directly tied to the filetree, the .talk files aren't actually accessible to it, I believe. At least not at this time, it should be possible in the future. But as it is, if you used iTunes to copy the songs over, it renames the actual filenames anyway. 04.48.20 # how 04.48.21 # haha 04.48.21 # there is a long and complicated forum thread on it in the new ports section. 04.48.25 # Elara: The .talk files will sound like gibberish even if they did work. 04.48.36 # oh 04.48.40 # Soap: It's *mostly* working. It's still buggier than 5Gs. 04.49.00 # Paul_the_Nerd: That was going to be the "bad news" 04.49.03 # Heh 04.49.09 # :O 04.49.23 # actually my goal was to change my theme 04.49.25 # of my opod 04.49.36 Join niskel [0] (n=niskel@fctnnbsc15w-156034085070.nb.aliant.net) 04.49.36 # ipod* 04.50.07 # It's probably not worth installing Rockbox just to reskin the iPod. 04.50.08 # good news #2, haywire, is that you have proven yourself more albe to follow directions than some, and should have no problem reading the (boring) new ports thread on the 5.5G. 04.50.24 # oh.. 04.50.33 # thank you 04.50.33 # haha 04.50.50 # haywire: Really, you just need to use a different bootloader.bin file, the installation is pretty much the same. 04.51.04 # You should find instructions in the 5.5G thread fairly quickly 04.51.18 # i found it 04.51.21 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6475.0 04.51.25 # am i correct? 04.51.33 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.51.52 # Yup 04.52.19 # okay 04.52.25 # i think i can take it from here 04.52.39 # Paul_The_Nerd: Is there anyway that I could remove all the songs that iTunes originally copied over to my iPod, and then re-transfer them without iTunes, so that they didn't get renamed? If I did, is it possible the talk .mp3 feature would work, or should I just leave it on Spell and brush up on my quick word deciphering skills?:-) 04.52.42 # Thank you Soap and Paul_The_Nerd. Your help is greatly appreciated. 04.52.50 # I will idle the channel if anything comes up. 04.53.23 # Elara: that is /possible/ but difficult and limited. 04.53.36 # Elara: Well, the talk feature requires that you're not using the database mode. Which means you'll have to have the file organized on the disk how you want them, so you'd have to create Artist and Album folders (or have a program do so). 04.54.14 # Elara: Your best bet at this time is probably to stick with the spelling unless you're willing to spend some time making sure the files themselves are organized in an accessible manner. 04.54.27 # I just did that today, it was a hell of a mess 04.54.37 # Elara: there is a program called "SharePod", which last time I ran it (about 6 months ago) worked perfectly. A little program which would copy all your music off you ipod, and save the songs in perfectly organized folders and track names based upon the tags. 04.54.56 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.55.19 # Elara: you could use that program to transfer off the music, and create a good folder structure all in one step, then copy the music back over, and use file tree mode instead of database mode. 04.57.16 Part Soap 04.57.31 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.57.59 # Paul_The_Nerd: The ipod_fw5.5 download link on that forum doesnt work but the other 2 files do. Should i just use my old ipod_fw 04.58.46 # Well, iTunes has everything organized fairly well, and I'm not referring to inside iTunes. If I go into Windows Explorer, and look at the directory where iTunes, if I were to load it, would pull from, that directory in Windows Explorer is organized by artist, then by album, then by track. Could I just grab that organized directory, NOT using iTunes, and do it that way? 04.59.50 # Elara: sure 05.00.05 # Elara: now I feel silly, didn't mean to make an easy task hard. 05.00.40 # The ipod_fw5.5 download link on that forum doesnt work but the other 2 files do. Should i just use my old ipod_fw 05.00.41 # =) 05.01.20 # LOL I didn't even know if it would work. I'm a noob here. Heck, I don't even know how to remove all the old iTunes copied songs off my Ipod and put the new, non-iTunes stuff on! 05.02.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.03.30 # haywire: See if there's another one later in the thread, but I'm not *wholly* sure it's necessary 05.04.09 # haywire: Unfortunately, I'm not wholly sure it's unnecessary either. 05.04.13 # lol 05.04.15 # its kool 05.05.53 # Ah Ha. I found it. You sir are a genius 05.06.08 # Thanks for the help everyone. I'm off to see if I can implement any of this. Wish me luck! (I'll probably need it. *GRIN*) 05.06.36 # Elara: Good luck. 05.06.44 # YEah 05.06.48 # BEst 05.07.15 # *WAVES* 05.07.32 # Okay, so... 05.07.43 Part Elara 05.07.56 # patches and plugins 05.08.06 # they look extremely difficult 05.08.14 # I'm not a programmer by any means 05.10.20 Quit Phoenix7477 ("Leaving") 05.12.43 # Could not open firmware image file bootpartition.bin 05.12.47 # How can that be 05.12.58 # after this command: 05.13.10 # ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin 05.13.40 Quit JoeBorn ("rebootus maximus") 05.14.06 # oh okay i fixed it 05.14.08 # =) 05.15.38 # How are patches and plugins handled? 05.16.18 # SimonSelki: That's not a very specific question. 05.16.23 # I heard someone say I have to ReMerge the files with... 05.16.24 # Patches and plugins are two drastically different things. 05.16.26 # yeah... sorry 05.16.32 # are they? 05.16.34 # shoot 05.16.41 # Patches are text files containing changes to the source code. You apply a patch to the source code. 05.16.51 # Aha 05.17.11 # Plugins are compiled files that all share the same memory, only one is loaded at a time... some example plugins would be the text viewer, or doom. 05.17.32 # ah, ah, okay 05.17.34 # I see 05.17.37 # great 05.17.58 # can put a plugin in the plugins folder? 05.18.03 # no installing or anything? 05.18.11 # or do I have to initialize 05.18.47 # THANK YOU GOD! I got rockbox working on my 5.5g. Now, to the skin. 05.18.48 # A plugin has to be compiled to the same version of Rockbox as you're currently running. 05.19.25 # ...com.... compiled? 05.19.57 # haywire: congrats man. It's a good feeling, I know it 05.20.12 # When you make the .rock file, it has to be made for a specific type of Rockbox (iPod 5G, H120, or whatnot) plus it has to be within a certain time period, or the plugin version will have changed and it won't work. 05.21.41 # That sounds pretty complicated.... I looked at the working with patches, and it wasn't to descript 05.21.53 # okay, I had a different situation when I installed rockbox 05.21.58 # like, a-typical 05.22.06 # I'm not running windows XP 05.22.27 # I had to do the first part... the MS-DOS part at a friends house 05.22.36 # Paul_The_Nerd: Do i download themes to my rockbox and will it just upload it? 05.22.42 # no 05.22.52 # haywire: I suggest at this point reading the manual 05.23.27 # You have to extract the individual files to their respective parts in the .rockbox file 05.23.41 # Folder I mean, .rockbox folder 05.24.18 # okay, I had to do the MS-DOS part on a friends computer because ipodpatcher would not work on '98 05.24.54 # will I still be able to patch, or am I going to need to use that friends computer everytime I want to update? 05.25.35 # To update you just extract the newest rockbox.zip and copy the contents over. 05.25.42 # No special programs/tools required 05.25.47 # nice 05.26.08 # and to add plugins and patches? 05.26.11 Quit haywire () 05.26.52 # Patches require you learning how to compile 05.27.11 # Where can I get info on that? 05.27.14 # Plugins, in most cases, will too, unless they come with a build of their own. 05.27.33 # SimonSelki: See the SimpleGuideToCompiling wiki page 05.27.45 # sure thing man 05.27.48 # I'm so eager to learn 05.34.38 # okay okay 05.34.58 # so compiling doesn't reqiure me to change the bootlog? 05.35.09 # like, I may never have to do that again, right? 05.38.15 Quit TeaSeaLancs (Remote closed the connection) 05.38.25 Quit niskel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.42.59 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@222.76.229.178) 05.43.07 # jhMikeS: sholdnt all the rec_* settings in global_settings be ifdef-out-able on HAVE_RECORDING? 05.44.28 # SimonSelki: The bootloader *shouldn't* need to be changed out unless there's a significant change in the way booting happens. 05.44.42 # It may need to be changed for dual processor support, for example 05.45.57 Join unleet [0] (i=185c8710@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c32e0ce304033f80) 05.46.33 # I need a modification to RockBox for my H10 20gb. Any takers? 05.46.47 # Only small mod. 05.53.40 # JdGordon: I think the whole global_setting needs proper #ifdef-ing. There's lot of stuff not #ifdef-ed out when the member isn't used. Should just follow the settings really. 05.54.15 # yeah, I noticed that, bit of work for anyone that is game 05.54.39 # can I assume all th recording settings are correct in the new patch? 05.55.15 # hmmm...I did add the AIFF encoding but that should be pretty easy to drop into the new scheme. 05.56.23 Quit unleet ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.56.31 # atm I'm working on making the recording buttons petur-mash-proof on the pcm_record end anyway 05.57.06 # So that really strange combinations of presses don't kill everything? 05.57.26 # They really shouldn't have but the pcmrec thread will do everything so it is serialized 05.59.01 # If it still does, something else in another place is insane 05.59.16 Quit mirak (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.00.21 # okay okay okay 06.00.50 # I should be able to compile then 06.01.00 # but if this is how you add patches 06.01.00 # ... 06.01.05 # i'm talking to this guy 06.01.08 # then everytime you update 06.01.23 # who thinks 256 mp3 is higher quality than lossless 06.01.26 # your patches will be removed, right? 06.01.33 # not me 06.01.36 # That's why it's called lossless 06.01.43 # i've explained that 06.01.52 # hah 06.02.01 # [15:55:51] - when you convert around mp3 etc, info is lost 06.02.01 # [15:57:49] mate it's fine by the time it's all processed to come out the speakers the quality is higher than CD anyways 06.02.01 # [15:58:49] ... 06.02.01 DBUG Enqueued KICK daurn 06.02.01 # [15:58:52] thats impossible 06.02.02 # [15:59:10] no it's not 06.02.02 *** Alert Mode level 1 06.02.02 # [15:59:18] not when you know how to do it 06.02.04 # well, the file sizes are a lot larger 06.02.09 # that should be enough 06.02.27 # hahahaha 06.02.46 # Okay, I think maybe this guy has never heard real music 06.02.57 # and, like people who watch too much TV 06.03.12 # [15:59:54] you LOOSE quality when you convert to anything but lossless 06.03.13 # [15:59:58] it can NEVER be regained 06.03.13 # [16:00:30] if you wish to believe that go ahead, i wont force my experience onto you 06.03.30 # haha 06.03.52 # they think that the images on TV look more realistic than the images taken by better cameras 06.04.00 # hahahaha 06.04.02 # that's so rediculous 06.04.05 # Man 06.04.10 # Can Rockbox read flacs? 06.04.11 # I think he's confusing "I like it better" with "Objectively better" 06.04.16 # yeah 06.04.17 # Yeah, Rockbox supports FLAC. 06.04.23 # !!!! 06.04.30 # AHG! 06.04.30 # Man 06.04.33 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 06.04.33 # * Paul_the_Nerd strongly suggests a glance at the manual. 06.04.39 # This thing keeps getting better and better 06.04.41 # yeah 06.04.44 # I know 06.04.50 # I guess I skimmed 06.04.58 # or maybe I just didn't believe it when I read it 06.05.10 # Paul_the_Nerd: does rockbox support wavpack hybrid? 06.05.43 #