--- Log for 20.12.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 16 hours ago 00.00.06 # * [IDC]Dragon just made his 1st commit since a year or so 00.00.20 # :D 00.01.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> would it be selfish to mention that my lastname lacks a letter, in the cvs table "who" column? 00.01.26 # Preparation for disks >137 GB not bad :D 00.01.30 # hehe, me fix 00.01.43 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.01.57 # * [IDC]Dragon gets a 160 GB tomorrow or so 00.02.27 # i guess theres no 160gb for 1.8" so far 00.02.39 # [IDC]Dragon: 'n' added, will appear later on 00.02.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> safe guess 00.02.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder, thanks 00.03.04 # I hope to make a contribution (very small) soon 00.03.06 # toshiba announced their 100GB 1.8" the other day 00.03.20 # toshia... 00.03.21 # b 00.03.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> lets make a raid from those 00.03.30 # it'll take ages before any mortal can get one 00.03.42 # exactly... 00.03.49 # I'm still waiting for 100Gb flash DAPs 00.03.55 # I don't do HDD daps 00.04.00 # the released the 40gb 1.8 single platter last november 00.04.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> usually apple is quick in following the HD manufacturers 00.04.11 # NOW u can purchase them 00.04.45 # Lars_G keep on dreamin and wake up 2008 ;) 00.06.05 # [IDC]Dragon: ah...nice...looks like i get to do some testing...let me know how it does with your 160 if i dont test first 00.06.24 Join habana [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fb7fd26caa63be21) 00.08.14 # Okay, I have to leave for the evening.. 00.08.29 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-0-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.09.49 # If anyone wants to (Linuxstb, badger, n1s, anyone really) you could have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/H10InstallationBeta which is a somewhat more up-to-date version of the install guide in the H10 manual.. I haven't finished with it (voice and such aren't copied over yet) and presentation sucks, but links and all should work and point to the right files. 00.10.08 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 00.10.11 # Bagder: just after update of the cvs and prepairing a bootloader, had this error "find: apps: No such file or directory" 00.10.12 # Any feedback more than welcome.. And feel free to edit as you wish. 00.10.19 Join bun-bun [0] (n=bun@unaffiliated/bun-bun) 00.10.38 # well, it is a wiki ;) 00.10.53 # scorche - Is it? :p 00.10.56 # oups, bootloader doesnt need apps, of course 00.10.59 Join joe_ [0] (n=joe@host86-143-113-0.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) 00.11.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> scorche, do you have a big disk? 00.11.13 # i do 00.11.21 # as i believe i have told you before 00.11.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> oops, you did? 00.11.34 Quit joris__ ("Ex-Chat") 00.11.41 # no worries 00.12.01 # * [IDC]Dragon is bad about remembering people 00.12.08 # PaulPosition: quite possibly that guide could be used for Sansa installs too as they are very similar... 00.12.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> especially without faces 00.12.21 Nick joe_ is now known as joee (n=joe@host86-143-113-0.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) 00.12.24 # that would just scare you off though 00.12.37 Nick joee is now known as joeee (n=joe@host86-143-113-0.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) 00.12.50 # anyone around to help me :( 00.12.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> ok, let's proceed with IRC then 00.13.00 # Badger - Maybe, with a few name changes here and there.. Anyway, I got to leave so I'll look at it again later. 00.13.17 # Good evening, morning, afternoon, whatever ... 'gents and ladies. 00.13.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> scorche, make a 2nd primary partition in the upper space 00.13.23 # PaulPosition: yeah, we'll see, I just wanted to mention it so that you might keep it in mind 00.13.32 # hello? 00.13.44 # joeee: so ask away 00.13.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> you'd need to take the disk our, of course 00.13.48 Quit PaulPosition ("off to party a bit.") 00.13.50 # joeee: just ask your question 00.13.55 # ah ok 00.13.56 # i would? 00.14.06 # ah...silly me 00.14.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> copy you favourite 23 GB to it, on a PC 00.14.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> your 00.14.27 # iriver h10, I have installed rokbox already but when i boot the player up it just seems to stop at the loading screen 00.15.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> 'cause you can't change it over USB again 00.15.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> build Rockbox with HAVE_BIGLBA and HAVE_MULTIVOLUME 00.15.44 # [IDC]Dragon: i will have to test later, as i need to find my 2.5 adapter, but carry on with the instructions 00.15.45 # joeee: you probably need to make sure you update both your bootloader and rockbox 00.15.52 # in fact, it might be worth making a wiki page about it 00.15.55 # joeee: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/H10InstallationBeta 00.16.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> and voila, you can see and play from the 2nd partition 00.16.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> (that's it) 00.16.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'll do a wiki page later 00.16.57 # does it appear transparent on the device? 00.17.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> transparent? 00.17.58 # no noticible separation between the 2 partitions? 00.18.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> the 2nd partition looks like a directory, currently named 00.18.10 # ah...alright 00.18.14 # ah sweet dual boot on H10 :D 00.19.16 # btw what is rollo? 00.19.20 # I use this CVS build yeah? 00.19.48 # joeee you have to update your bootloader 00.20.09 # in system yes? 00.20.24 # yep 00.20.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> scorche, it is necessary that the 2nd partition is a primary one, too 00.21.11 Quit matsl ("Riece/2.0.2 XEmacs/21.5-b27 (fiddleheads, linux)") 00.21.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> not an extended one, Rockbox doesn't handle that 00.21.28 # so 00.21.29 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h10/rockbox_interface/images/h10-front.png 00.21.35 # im seeing that screen atm 00.22.15 # do you have 20 gb? 00.22.16 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable115.145-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 00.22.20 # yes 00.22.30 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 00.22.31 Part Llorean 00.22.39 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 00.22.56 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 00.23.36 # Badger - D'you not think it might be worth it to put a small note in the 'News' directing H10 crowd to the new BL..? I don't know if it ever happened in the project's life as I haven't been around for long. :) 00.24.21 # any ideas :) 00.25.43 # Joeee - In the link badger provided there a links to the bootloaders. It says you shouldn't have to change them, at least not often unless there's some BIG change. Well today there were BIG changes. :) 00.26.07 # yep 00.27.10 # joeee - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/MainH10InstallationBeta , look under Installing the Bootloader .. 00.27.36 # these are links to the newer ones which WILL work together with that latest build you downloaded. 00.27.37 # * [IDC]Dragon waves goodnight 00.27.54 Quit [IDC]Dragon (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 00.28.09 Quit ender` (" Going to church does not make a person religious, nor does going to school make a person educated, any more than going to a ) 00.28.46 Join redwood [0] (n=spammish@c-69-251-225-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 00.29.26 # there is only one link yeah for 20gig 00.31.04 # Sorry, gave you a wrong link, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=H10InstallationBeta is the right one.. But anyway, there are links to both UMS and MTP for 5/6gb in there. 00.31.23 # PaulPosition: not really...there wasnt a notice for the new apple BL either...anyone who cares that much will be watching the commit activity, and all others can wait till we "phase it in" with proper instructions in the manual and all 00.31.57 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-0-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.32.08 # scorche: Though in the case of the H10, it finally received the last batch of core functionality that it should have (dual boot) while the iPod dual booted from before it played music. 00.32.12 # so do i need to download both the ums and mtp loaders ? 00.32.19 # scorche - No problem.. Been reworking that manual entry into a wikipage (above) and when it's done I'll see if I can TeX-it and commit.. :) 00.32.29 # does the H10 use both cores? 00.32.33 # joeee: You only download the one for the device you have. 00.32.45 # yeah i think i did :> 00.32.59 # So it seems from that forum post that the Nano _can_ record, and even via the headphone jack? 00.33.25 # linuxstb_: yeah...i considered notifying you, but i figured you would see it 00.33.40 # I read petur's question about gain... 00.33.41 # linuxstb_: That's what that forum post implies to me. 00.33.56 # joeee- Interesting that you ask, I just noticed there really isn't steps to differentiate between MTP and UMS.. I'll add some when I get back later. :) 00.34.05 # linuxstb_: I'm about to see if I can find a mic and give it a yell. 00.34.58 # Llorean: You could just try the white headphones that came with your ipod - that's how I tested the headphone jack input on my Photo. 00.35.01 # Joeee - If your device came with Windows Media Player on a disc, it is MTP. If it came with iRiver's own software, it is UMS. 00.35.16 # alright 00.35.49 Quit martian67 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.37.02 # Okay, bye for real now... 00.37.05 Quit PaulPosition ("for real") 00.37.25 # linuxstb_: Whichever one I stumble across first then 00.37.49 # Mine were easy to find - still in the plastic in the box... 00.39.27 # I didn't keep my box, but I kept mine for dire emergencies 00.39.35 # still not working gah :p 00.39.52 # so in my system i should have, h10_20GC and h10 00.43.44 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.43.57 # linuxstb_: Not a sign of response. Tried both "Line in" and "Internal Mic" since I really wasn't sure which source should be used. 00.44.44 Quit nowotny|away (Nick collision from services.) 00.44.55 Join nowotny [0] (i=Miranda@aie33.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 00.45.13 Nick nowotny is now known as nowotny|away (i=Miranda@aie33.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 00.45.16 Part n1s 00.45.56 Join midkay__ [0] (n=midkay@c-67-160-89-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.46.02 # wait, what? you can record by putting a mic in the headphone jack on your nano? 00.46.29 # SUSaiyan: So someone has claimed in the forums. It works on earlier ipods. 00.46.54 # okay that im gunna try 00.46.56 # But that's because the "italk" type accessories plug into the headphone jack (and the remote connector next to it). 00.47.08 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.47.12 # AFAIK, there is no italk for the Nano. 00.47.40 # wheres the record button anyway? ^^ 00.48.12 Join yossa [0] (n=chatzill@chello081018216139.chello.pl) 00.48.18 # Llorean: I'm not sure why the text says "internal mic" - it just said "mic" last time I tested the patch... But that should be the option. 00.48.55 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.49.16 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC") 00.49.33 # * linuxstb_ slaps peter for saying "To reduce confusion, renamed 'Mic' to 'Internal Mic'. Maybe Line In should also be renamed to Line In / External Mic" :) 00.49.44 # linuxstb_: Well the string used to say "Mic" for the H120 as well, which led to confusion as to whether it was like the "Mic" option in the iRiver firmware (just a different gain setting for the line in) or for the actual Mic. 00.50.33 # so for sansa dual boot, I put the PP5022.mi4, OF.bin and rockbox.e200 into the main dir and it should work, yes? I'm a little confused by the "system" folder in the mysticriver guide 00.50.50 # The headphone jack is an external mic input, so we need to make use of the lovely langv2 capabilities... 00.50.57 # linuxstb_: The .wav files created don't seem to play in Rockbox. 00.51.24 # where exactly do i find the record button guys? <_< 00.51.34 # SUSaiyan: What "record button?" 00.51.35 # Try the main menu. 00.51.40 Join habana [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-03958322d6ebcf98) 00.53.01 # linuxstb_: Anyway, using the mic setting, the peakmeter wobbles at a very low level, isn't empty, and as far as I can tell I can't affect it. 00.53.09 # i dont see it? :/ 00.53.26 # SUSaiyan: Are you running a new enough build to have the option? 00.53.31 # would someone know what "rockbox error -6" means when trying to boot on my original firmware ? 00.53.41 # how new does it need to be? 00.53.55 # Llorean: Yes, that's what I experienced when recording wasn't working. So I don't think it's a case of being at a low level, I just don't think it's working. 00.54.45 # It was only enabled for the Nano accidentally, and we decided to leave it there so someone could confirm the line-in didn't work. 00.55.57 # Well, no headphone jack recording at least (as far as I can tell). 00.58.07 Join Drkepilogue [0] (i=456fc2e3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d01efd7321f406cc) 00.58.31 # hey, i have a problem with the new bootloader for the ipod 00.58.54 # habana: It means your firmware file is larger than the load buffer, which is currently set to be 10MB. Is that the case? 00.59.02 # Drkepilogue: What's the problem? 00.59.07 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.59.28 # it can boot to the rockbox FW with no problem but when i try and boot the orginal frimware it reset and show folder with exclamation mark error 00.59.50 # Drkepilogue: Did you post on the forum, or was that someone else with the same issue/ 01.00.01 # i didnt post on forum 01.00.07 # i just installed the new bootloader 01.00.11 # OK. Which ipod do you have? 01.00.22 # 4g photo 01.00.30 # linuxstb_: my OF.bin is 5.3 mo 01.01.23 # Drkepilogue: That's odd, I've been testing it on my Photo (well, a Color, but they're the same). 01.01.35 # O_o 01.01.44 # i think i should try a reinstallation.. 01.01.54 # What was on your ipod before you did the install? 01.02.05 # (i.e. was it clean, or did it have an old Rockbox install)? 01.02.12 # uh 01.02.25 # i had yesterday CVS build and the old bootloader 01.02.40 # and w/e crap itune put in there 01.03.36 # Do the instructions say it should be installed on a clean iPod bootpartition, or was that not supposed to matter any more? 01.03.48 # It _shouldn't_ matter. 01.03.54 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.05.53 # habana: If your /System/OF.bin file is only 5.3MB, then something odd is going on... 01.05.57 # i reinstalled and it still cant load orginal FW 01.06.29 # Are you able to restore your original boot partition contents? (if you kept the bootpartition.bin backup from the first time you installed Rockbox). 01.06.42 Nick jaebird is now known as jaebird|away (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) 01.06.45 # yes 01.06.56 # o 01.06.56 # wait... 01.06.56 # well 01.07.00 # in da instruction 01.07.04 # it ask me to make a backup thingy 01.07.06 # i did that 01.07.21 # and i can "uninstall the bootloader" 01.07.28 # so go back to apple FW 01.07.43 # How do you uninstall the bootloader? 01.07.55 # linuxstb: you mean .rockbox/OF.bin ? 01.08.07 # the wiki page 01.08.08 # e) Create a backup of your ipod's firmware partition 01.08.08 # habana: No. 01.08.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.16 # followed that step 01.08.18 # so i made a mistake 01.09.09 # Drkepilogue: OK. So when you restore that, do you get the Apple firmware by itself, or the old Rockbox bootloader? 01.09.41 # only apple frimware 01.10.44 # linuxstb:cant find System. where do i placeit on my player dir ? 01.11.17 # let it, ill see tomorrow, too tired tonight 01.11.24 # habana: I'm not sure. I'm just reading the source code to the bootloader, I don't own a H10. 01.11.33 # habana 01.11.46 # thanks. im on a sansa 01.11.47 # what are you tring to do? 01.11.50 # oh nvm 01.12.17 # rrrr, zzzz toooo mucchhh ttiiiireeed 01.13.51 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 01.13.52 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.15.58 # k, i reinstall this like 3 times now, still not working,, hmm 01.16.34 # Drkepilogue: I'm not sure what to suggest... Do you know which version of the Apple firmware you're running? 01.17.28 # very very old 01.17.31 # lol 01.17.40 # bought it around jun 2005 01.17.47 # or something... 01.17.51 # and havent upgrade.. 01.17.55 # eh... owells... 01.18.03 # ima see if i can install the old bootloader 01.18.47 # A couple of other people have reported similar problems this evening. One of them running v1.1 of the Apple firmware on a 4g (greyscale) 01.19.14 # yup 01.19.16 # i think so 01.19.23 # how cna u check 01.19.26 # what version im running? 01.19.36 # Go into the Settings -> About screen. 01.19.39 # itunes has info i think 01.19.54 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 01.19.56 # The ipod itself tells you as well. 01.20.16 # I have v1.2 on mine. 01.20.35 # linuxstb: Does the bootloader just check for the present of apple_os.ipod? It just booted from it despinte the Apple_OS being in the FW partition. 01.20.54 # Llorean: Yes, it defaults to loading the apple_os.ipod if it exists... 01.20.58 # Gotcha 01.21.07 # Maybe that needs some thought. 01.21.20 # I was just running a test to see if I -wf bootloader.ipod, -wf apple_os.ipod and the -a bootloader.ipod everything still worked fine. 01.21.43 # Well, someone really shouldn't have apple_os.ipod unless they want to be loading from it anyway. 01.21.52 # Drkepilogue: Can you try this bootloader? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bootloader-ipodcolor.ipod This includes some improvements committed to CVS today. 01.22.13 # Llorean: I'm thinking you may want it there for Rolo'ing purposes in the future. 01.22.57 # ill try 01.22.58 # linuxstb: True, but once that works, is there any reason to keep it in the fw partition? 01.23.13 # Other than "harder to accidentally delete" I suppose 01.23.35 # The same reason you put rockbox.ipod in the firmware partition I guess - faster booting. 01.23.59 # Btw this might sound stupid but how can I make rockbox load a config file by default on start? 01.24.08 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.24.15 Quit yossa ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") 01.24.30 # Lars_G: If you load a config, then they become the default settings stored in the config sector. That config sector is loaded on start. 01.24.42 # thanks linuxstb 01.24.51 # heh, funny, the new cvs build i downloaded wont boot :/ 01.24.58 # oh 01.25.03 # SUSaiyan: thanks for the warning 01.25.16 # well, it wont boot for me anyway 01.25.36 # SUSaiyan: Oops... Maybe everyone needs to upgrade their bootloaders then. 01.25.52 # possibly, rolo worked though 01.26.27 Quit lubiix908 ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.27.03 # SUSaiyan: Which ipod do you have? 01.27.25 # nano, 4GB 01.27.50 # Can you try installing this bootloader? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bootloader-ipodnano.ipod 01.28.01 # another update? 01.28.05 # Yep... 01.28.42 # linuxstb: Is that just the one I'd be running? 01.28.44 # linuxstb: When did that one come out? it's the one announced on the list about a week ago? 01.29.07 # Llorean: Yes, it's the current CVS. 01.29.09 # what changed this time? ;) 01.29.10 # Okay 01.29.33 # SUSaiyan: The startup code, especially how Rockbox initialises the COP has changed. 01.29.40 # ah 01.29.57 # hmm 01.30.01 # same result.. 01.30.03 # darnit firefox, work with me here 01.30.18 # good warning I was just about to compile lattest cvs. 01.30.52 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.31.11 # JdGordon: Hi, I just wanted to talk with you :) 01.31.12 # * Lars_G bows 01.31.18 # hey 01.32.13 # JdGordon: I want to patch metronome.c and I wonder if you used any program/script to create the sound arrays from the files, and what exact codect and file format each array is on 01.32.27 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.32.41 # i have no idea about any code in that plugin 01.32.45 # I basically need to add an extra sound array for my patch in both formats. and I'd also like to reverse your arrays into original files to make the new file based on them 01.32.45 # except he buttton code 01.32.52 # ah lol. 01.33.02 # So your name is there only for the last patch, ah ok, sorry 01.33.13 # ye 01.33.18 # I'll try to figure it out myself then. thanks 01.36.12 # hmm, what version should the bootloader display? 01.38.47 # linuxstb: ^ 01.39.12 # It should display the date/time from about an hour ago (GMT) 01.39.17 # lol 01.39.21 # hmm, okay 01.39.22 # so it is RECENT 01.39.24 # that it didnt 01.39.40 # So 061219-2344 I think 01.39.40 # so i must have made a mistake somewhere >.> 01.39.42 Join Digamma [0] (i=Doug@bas2-kingston08-1167933773.dsl.bell.ca) 01.39.48 # oh crap 01.39.48 # Can rockbox play OGG files/ 01.39.53 # yes 01.39.54 # i just realized something bad 01.40.17 # Once sound is working could an OGG be played on a Sansa e200 01.40.39 # Yes. 01.40.50 # ... so does anyone know how to restore a fat32 file table...? 01.40.53 # Yes. See the SoundCodecs wiki page for details of all the audio codecs Rockbox supports. The Sansa will be the same as all the other modern (iriver/iaudio/ipod) ports. 01.41.04 # Digamma: All Rockbox supported codes should be able to be played on the e200 01.41.21 # * SUSaiyan completely forgot he had another external hdd connected 01.41.25 # Can somone point me to a list of codecs for rockbox? 01.41.43 # SUSaiyan: Huh? Did ipodpatcher write to the wrong disk? 01.41.53 # no, i used dd >.> 01.42.02 # you know, with scrable and stuff 01.42.05 # Digamma: You were pointed to the SoundCodecs wiki page. 01.42.05 # That's why you should use ipodpatcher.... 01.42.19 # would it like my 8mb sda1? 01.42.28 # SUSaiyan: Not to mention the new install process and new bootloader files are specifically for use with the new iPodPatcher... 01.42.36 # thanks 01.43.15 # SUSaiyan: Ah, I forgot you did that. scramble creates firmware partitions incompatible with ipodpatcher... 01.43.25 # * linuxstb should fix that sometime 01.44.42 # hehe 01.44.54 Join habana-with-coff [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bdcf64c1d091c314) 01.44.57 # so now i overwrote the first 100kb of my external hdd ^^ 01.45.13 # well its first partition anyway 01.45.17 # where's ipodpatcher? 01.45.36 # And what's the advantage to dd? 01.45.50 # 1-wiki 01.45.52 # 2-SUSaiyan> so now i overwrote the first 100kb of my external hdd ^^ 01.45.54 # none if you are half asleep 01.46.33 # Lars_G: The only real advantage of dd, is if you really don't want to use the Apple_OS ever, and want to trim the firmware partition to a bare minimum size. 01.46.39 # Is there anything that remotely resembles sound on the Sansa e200 01.46.53 # Llorean: Nah I use both rockbox and the OF 01.47.03 # * linuxstb tries to think of something that resembles sound, but isn't sound... 01.47.15 # Digamma: No, which is why it's not listed in the "Runs on" list on the front page. 01.47.20 # a tree falling in the woods w/nobody around? 01.47.36 # Llorean: Sorry to be repetitive, would you point me to the url of ipodpatcher's wiki and lattest version? 01.47.38 # I am just asking; maybe there could have been a small breakthrough with the CVS builds 01.47.39 # Soap: That's it. Sansas have sound but only if you're not listening... 01.47.54 # linuxstb: the first 100kb is just the filetable, right? >.> 01.47.56 # nevermind I'll search the wiki 01.47.59 # Lars_G: The IpodInstallationBeta wiki page. 01.48.11 # Digamma: You're as capable of reading the CVS log on the front page as anyone else here. Do any of those say anything about sound on an e200? 01.48.14 # linuxstb: Thank you very much 01.48.49 # Digamma: A breakthrough like that will be well-publicised. I don't think you'll miss it. 01.48.57 # ok 01.49.30 # * Lars_G prays ccache works 01.49.55 # how dangerous is plugging fans into the psu with the power on? 01.50.06 # Good question 01.50.18 # I do not dare respond in case something happens and you blame me. 01.50.24 # shohuold be fine right? 01.50.34 # but I'd personally do it if I am completely sure the fan is ok and not shorted 01.51.01 # just in case, is this a mobo fan or a molex fan 01.51.24 # I can't guarantee your bios won't go insane if you hook a mobo fan with the machine on 01.52.01 # molex fan, i woulndt even consider it if it was a mobo one 01.52.21 # ok 01.52.25 # personally, I'd do it 01.52.36 # well me and the comp are still alive so alls good 01.53.07 # JdGordon: Do you know who is the original author of metronome.c ? 01.53.24 # who does the (c) message say? 01.53.26 # probably 01.53.27 # them 01.53.59 # hmmm 01.54.16 # Matthias Wientapper 01.54.20 # whoever that is... 01.54.24 # Matthias Wientapper 01.54.30 # its 2yrs, 9 months old 01.54.30 # Ah forget it I'll decypher the code myself 01.55.45 Quit Digamma ("Leaving") 01.55.49 # dan_a: i reported on the forum a potential bug on sansa builds with dual boot 01.55.52 # SUSaiyan: Any luck? Or are you still trying to fix your trashed hdd? 01.56.17 # im trying to fix it, heh 01.56.46 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/metronome.c revision 1.18 could lead you to some helpers 01.56.57 Quit funky ("leaving") 01.57.06 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 01.57.14 # Lars_G: ^ 01.57.16 # im actually amazed that this random restore app is not a virus or spyware, well as far as i can tell 01.57.55 # JdGordon: hmm? I'll look 01.58.20 # JdGordon: It's small but I hope this is the first patch I can contrib to rockbox 01.58.44 # habana-with-coff: Do you have an OF.bin file in the /System folder? I can't see from the source code how it can load /.rockbox/OF.bin 01.58.44 Quit habana-with-coff ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.58.50 # while its scanning i mightaswell put the bootloader on the right device 01.58.51 # Oh well... 01.59.01 Quit funky (Client Quit) 01.59.37 # what the 01.59.42 # JdGordon: THE linus? 02.00.06 # _our_ linus :D 02.00.08 Quit ]RowaN[ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.00.20 # Ah ok :D 02.00.34 # linuxstb: ... ipodpatche is windows based? or ANSI 02.00.44 # linuxstb: okay the new bootloader works 02.00.49 # also, nice colors :) 02.01.04 # * JdGordon bbs 02.01.07 # Lars_G: It's ANSI with both posix and win32 implementations of the low-level disk I/O. 02.01.10 # No it's universal. 02.01.14 # good 02.01.26 # if ipodpatcher is on the main cvs I must have it already, let me check 02.01.34 # It's been tested on Linux, BSD, Mac OS X and Windows. 02.01.51 # Yes, it's in tools/ipodpatcher/ 02.01.52 # okay so it works now 02.02.00 # quick question on the recording screen 02.02.04 # top bar is left? 02.02.05 # now to get my hdd back in working order :/ 02.02.23 # linuxstb: My cvs must be wrong, I have fwpatcher but not ipodpatcher, duh 02.02.24 # SUSaiyan: OK, thanks. But that's worrying - it means every ipod user will need to update their bootloader. Maybe that should be mentioned somewhere... 02.02.43 # indeed 02.02.43 # Lars_G: "cvs update -dP" 02.02.55 # (the -d downloads new files) 02.03.12 # linuxstb: Man, thanks for whistanding me. 02.03.31 # linuxstb: Normally I DO tend to try and find out stuff for myself but I'm tired and it's late. thanks for the help. 02.04.10 # Meh i think I'll edit my makefile. I'm not using doom and I don't want to spend cpu cycles compiling it 02.04.13 Join menosm [0] (n=menosm__@user-11facuf.dsl.mindspring.com) 02.04.29 Quit curious1 (Remote closed the connection) 02.05.00 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 02.05.24 # linuxstb: Will ipodpatcher work on an ipod already using rockbox? 02.09.13 # Lars_G: It *should* 02.09.36 # Llorean: I'm not sure, it's not recognizing the poor ipod 02.09.43 # worked on mine 02.09.56 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 02.10.26 # Oh, sigh I pray Me doesn't has to reflash the ipod 02.10.36 # I mean on a non-linux machine 02.10.53 # I guarantee you don't need to re-flash it. 02.10.55 # You can make a backup of the current state with the "-r" option. 02.11.13 # linuxboy: Neine 02.11.40 # sudo ipodpatcher /dev/sda -r saved.bin 02.11.48 # Do you need sudo? 02.11.50 # [ERR] Drive is not an iPod, aborting 02.11.58 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.11.59 # With or without sudo, the outcome is the same 02.12.13 # Try ipodpatcher --scan 02.12.25 # So is /dev/sda your ipod? 02.12.29 # yes it is 02.12.36 # it better be 02.12.42 # it wasnt in my case >.> 02.12.43 # [INFO] Scanning disk devices... 02.12.43 # [ERR] No ipods found. 02.12.45 # Then you've probably modified it. Did you repartition? 02.12.47 # SUSaiyan: in mine it is 02.13.02 # linuxstb: I think I have repartitioned it during the first install, yes... 02.13.05 # of course ipodpatcher wouldnt do anything to it if its not an ipod 02.13.12 # linuxstb: Which means I need to go back to factory, doesn't it? 02.13.16 # sigh 02.13.20 # * Lars_G sighs 02.13.24 # Or comment out some checks in ipodpatcher... 02.13.48 # linuxstb: That I could but since it's repartitioned will ipodpatcher still be able to work with it? 02.13.58 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 02.14.12 # Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 02.14.12 # /dev/sda1 1 35 68324 0 Empty 02.14.12 # /dev/sda2 36 1023 1929564 b W95 FAT32 02.14.16 # that's the table on my baby 02.14.39 Nick DreamThief is now known as DreamThief|off (n=mathias@p54A8297C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.14.51 # Try commenting out the "return -1" at line 197 of ipodpatcher.c That should be harmless if you know you're accessing the right disk. 02.15.04 # Nod I will 02.16.51 # linuxstb: Yep seems to work well: [INFO] Ipod model: 1st Generation Nano 02.17.08 # That's good. It means it recognises your firmware partition. 02.17.15 # yes 02.17.33 # And the start sector and ammount of copied sectors seems congruent with the partition table 02.17.51 Join hachi [0] (i=hachi@shego.kuiki.net) 02.18.29 # repaste the url of the newest nano bootloader please 02.18.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt 02.18.51 # thanks 02.18.57 # nice bootloader 02.19.18 # Llorean: why did you post to that thread saying the same thing you did two days ago? I'm watching those threads for actual news, and so far half the posts have been about how to treat the thread 02.19.27 # the 80gb ipod thread 02.19.29 # i wouldnt put that in my firmware partition though 02.19.31 Join Digamma [0] (i=Doug@bas2-kingston08-1167933773.dsl.bell.ca) 02.20.11 # [INFO] Bootloader bootloader-ipodnano.ipod written to device. 02.20.23 # hachi: I posted to it again, in place of a post that was exactly what my post says not to do. 02.20.30 # I erased a post to put mine up. 02.20.33 Quit menosm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.46 # Ok now to unzip my last compile.... 02.20.51 # I'll remove it in 24 hours, once I'm confident that the person whose post I removed has read it. 02.21.51 # Llorean: is there a place to go to read the status of the 80gb one? because nobody has explained the current state... it just says 'not working'... which could mean that it starts my ipod on fire, or it locks up, or anything 02.22.12 # hachi: It does not start. 02.22.15 # sigh my monitor is so covered in dropplets of saliva I need to clean it 02.22.17 # hachi: Rockbox can't access the disk... 02.22.36 # But everything else seems to work (as far as can be tested without accessing the disk) 02.22.50 # everything else being... the loader? 02.22.54 # So it just needs one breakthrough which may be 6 hours or 6 months away. 02.22.56 # Llorean: So if I am right, once I finish my general config and audio config. i need to save it, then read it for it to be applied as default? 02.23.03 # everything else being "once the disk works, it should be as functional as all the other iPod ports" 02.23.46 # Lars_G: I don't understand the question. There is no real "default", settings just persist. 02.24.05 # Lars_G: It's the default before you save it... 02.24.12 # but rockbox depends on a loader as well, and I don't know the state of the loader either, where do you find that part out? 02.24.17 # linuxstb: So changes SHOULD persist? 02.24.27 # I mean, I think it does... you can correct me of course 02.24.27 # Dah yes my wording was off sorry 02.24.32 # hachi: The Rockbox bootloader is just a stripped-down version of Rockbox. So the status of both is the same. 02.24.43 #