--- Log for 05.01.107 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.58 Join safetydan [0] (i=cbca159f@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 00.04.28 Quit Dr4g0n () 00.07.20 # lostlogic: around? 00.10.08 Nick sD is now known as krz (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 00.10.23 Quit BobJonkman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.29 Nick krz is now known as kraizee (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 00.11.49 Join farbrormelon [0] (n=sebbe@81-234-24-85-o1124.telia.com) 00.12.49 # Hi, i have some problem with understanding the tutorial of patching rockbox. Someone that can help me? 00.13.28 # How far have you got? Can you compile your own version of Rockbox without any patches applied? 00.14.23 Join gotthardt [0] (i=86868801@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-5b892bdc18db24f3) 00.14.34 # no, i have installed cygwin and all that but if you look here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling#From_Daily_Build_page 00.15.52 # it says "Go to your C:\Rockbox\ folder, then "Home" and then "Guest" 00.17.06 # I have followed all the steps, but i dont have any rockbox folder of that kind, But i have the Cygwin-folder that includes the "Home" folder but not the "guest"... it's getting confusing 00.18.55 Join phrozen77 [0] (n=phrozen7@p54931F3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.19.09 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 00.19.25 Join takeda` [0] (i=takeda_l@h-74-0-89-210.lsanca54.covad.net) 00.20.31 # "gmake[1]: m68k-elf-gcc: Command not found" - anyone know how I get the gcc for m68k on FreeBSD 6.1? 00.20.44 # I never cross compiled before 00.20.57 # takeda`: tools/rockboxdev.sh is your friend 00.21.21 # m68k? 00.21.29 # there's a DAP based on the 68k? 00.21.31 # cool 00.21.34 # X5L 00.21.39 # Lars_G: iriver/iaudio 00.21.44 # is using m68k compatible proc 00.21.51 # Not motorola? 00.21.57 # well, freescale 00.22.03 # what used to be motorola 00.22.04 # it's compatible with the processor in Amiga 500 00.22.05 # :) 00.22.09 # Pardon the expression, I tought motorola had the 68k arch by the balls. 00.22.16 # hehe would be cool to have simple amiga emulator there ;P 00.22.29 # Pretty nice, I liked the 68k though I must admit I'm a sucker for the ARM, specially pre-intel 00.22.56 # takeda`: hmmm you give me ideas, actually... sad i don't have an iRiver 00.23.08 # hehe :) 00.23.26 # so you would code it? :) I think enough just to load games from amiga floppies and run them 00.23.27 # :) 00.23.46 # takeda`: Not an amiga one, but I would try to port an Atari ST emulator to it 00.23.59 # hmm still would be good I guess 00.24.00 # I miss my 1040ST and a DAP should be able to give enough power to emulate it 00.24.06 # The coldfire is not 100% m68k compatible 00.24.06 # although I would favor Amiga better :) 00.24.13 # Some instructions need emulation 00.24.30 # amiconn: yes but if it's only a handfull, speeddown should be lesser than full emulation 00.24.34 # amiconn yeah, but I think emulation would still be easier than on x86 00.24.35 # :) 00.25.02 # Ah well, someday 00.25.18 # I better start small, I've not yet had time to do the small stupid patch to metronome.c I wanted to do. sigh 00.25.55 # damn, actually I still don't have full Amiga speed on my PC even though it supposed to be 285 times faster 00.26.23 # huh? 00.26.35 # could be an error on the timing or rtc code 00.26.54 # if you have that many times more power... well it should be close to original speed at least. 00.26.54 # WinUAE is multiple times faster than the fastest real m68k amiga on half-decent pcs 00.27.09 # amiconn: I don't use windows 00.27.21 # Bagder: Can I use different directory for installation than /usr/local? I don't want to mess with files that are installed through ports would be enough just to add new directory to the path? 00.27.40 # takeda`: sure, read the top of that script and edit the paths as you see fit 00.27.45 # Lars_G, your big problem would be emulating all the custom chips on the Amiga. Agnus, Paula, and friends. 00.27.48 # takeda`: Using the script? you can edit it and change the paths 00.28.01 # safetydan: Aye, it's a little lesser on the Atari 00.28.02 # amiconn: Well, I played bomberman on the last UAE and the sound couldn't keep up 00.28.05 # Lars_G: I guess there is a version of uae which does dynamic recompilation 00.28.15 # although older UAE version was faster 00.28.57 # That's what winuae does, and it runs multiple times faster than my real A4000-060/50 00.29.02 # Bagder: Thank you, I'll try it now 00.29.03 Join filoktetes [0] (n=filoktet@35-107-900.ggsn.netcom.no) 00.29.16 # * amiconn can actually compare to the real thing 00.29.51 # * bluebrother just notices the reopen request for FS#6384 got denied within 2 minutes :) 00.30.34 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 00.30.35 # Bagder, can we get a "not a bug" closing reason for FS? "Works for me" sounds a bit too much like "I can't reproduce it and define it as non-existant" to me 00.30.46 # or is such a reason unwanted? 00.31.13 # nah, seems like a reasonable reason to me 00.31.29 Join strabes [0] (n=strabes@ip68-108-31-178.lv.lv.cox.net) 00.31.36 # How 'bout "Working as intended"? 00.31.41 Join webguest29 [0] (i=5438b34b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4a198cbe58216e92) 00.32.06 Quit lavid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.32.09 # that sounds right ( Llorean's ) 00.32.23 # I think "not a bug" could apply to more situations 00.32.36 # I like "not a bug" better. It tells clearly what has been reported isn't a bug. (Which also implies it to work as intended) 00.33.11 # How about "that's how it works, moron" ? 00.33.22 # bluebrother: It could also apply to things that aren't working as intended, and merely aren't complete, or things that should be filed as a feature request, or a variety of other things. 00.33.24 # Sorry 2 years of help desk does that to you 00.33.32 # "Not a bug" sounds vague to me, is all. 00.33.41 # "works as intended" wouldn't fit on FS#6384 while "not a bug" would. 00.33.54 # Lars_G: I'm strongly in favour of a reason for closing "You couldn't be bothered to read the manual, so I couldn't be bothered to explain what you did wrong." 00.33.54 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 00.34.32 # Llorean: Too long, they'd start drooling around "manual" 00.34.40 # bluebrother: Actually, that's a "Didn't read the manual" case. 00.34.57 # hehe, like "id10t error"? 00.35.11 # It is working as intended, he just didn't know you have to hold something down while inserting the charger. 00.35.29 # But I'm fine with "Not a bug", it is much more versatile. 00.35.55 Join lavid [0] (n=lavid@c-24-13-228-86.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.35.59 # In which case, I propose "Working as intended" to go along beside it, so that someone doesn't come back with a "Well, what is it then?" and request it be reopened in the cases where it IS working as intended. :) 00.36.58 # That could go into the comment. Closed as "not a bug", comment "this is the intended behaviour" 00.37.16 # in case it describes some "wrong" behaviour 00.37.46 # That works, I suppose. 00.40.04 # too bad, still no new release of FS. 00.40.56 Quit lavid ("Leaving.") 00.41.28 # fs? 00.41.57 # Flyspray. Our task tracker 00.42.14 # ah ok 00.42.18 # http://www.flyspray.org/ 00.42.20 # fs is pretty nice 00.42.27 # You guys have taught me some love for it 00.42.40 # normally I'm Trac's bitch 00.42.48 # don't know since when they got the domain but it's definitely easier to remember ;-) 00.43.20 # I never got used to trac. Found it always strange. 00.44.03 # trac is awesome... wish I could convince people to use it more 00.44.45 # trac's interface is awesome. Installing and maintaining it server side is NOT awesome 00.46.05 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net) 00.47.02 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 00.47.27 # I guess I'll some day find the time to understand trac. But not for today ;-) 00.48.19 # nah FS is very nice too 00.48.44 Quit ender` (" PHP is a minor evil perpetrated and created by incompetent amateurs, whereas Perl is a great and insidious evil, perpetrated) 00.48.48 # I like FS's categorization system, and it's simpler to use than trac or bugtrack 00.48.50 # bugzilla 00.48.51 # doh 00.49.06 # Lars_G: Pratar du svenska? 00.49.27 # farbrormelon: No. I'm latinamerican. 00.49.40 # farbrormelon: I speak spanish, english and I'm learning 日本語 00.50.13 # Ow.. 00.50.16 # =) 00.50.34 # Lars is a swedish name =) 00.50.40 # Hai, I know 00.50.52 # but i'm not swedish only my name is 00.51.11 # okok 00.55.28 Join lavid [0] (n=lavid@c-24-13-228-86.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.56.49 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.58.24 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable115.145-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 00.58.42 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.59.18 # Badger: ping? 01.01.08 # don't ping a badger. they bite 01.01.30 # Bagder might respond to a ping though. 01.01.34 # He's a bit more amicable. 01.01.57 # ..but not as much as amiconn :p 01.02.20 # (Nah, Daniel's amicable enough. ;) ) 01.03.02 Quit Mouser_X3 (Nick collision from services.) 01.04.17 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.180.41) 01.04.57 # * Bagder looks around 01.05.06 # Heh... 01.05.17 # Badger: Just a quick question... 01.06.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.07.10 # is that a veeery long question you're working on now? ;-) 01.07.15 # Badger: Someone talked, few weeks ago, about building a survey sort of website whereby people could upload their .cfg files. Could maybe be used to set real sane defaults for stuff... I started working on a small php app but I won't have any room to host it.. 01.07.21 # Badger: I write slowly in english. 01.07.43 # Badger: Do you think you could make some use of it when I finish it.. I mean, would it be worth sending it to you? 01.07.53 # (oh and I am Bagder, not Badger... :-P) 01.08.03 # Owwww. 01.08.18 # Which is why I pointed out that "Bagder" might respond to a ping. :-P 01.08.26 # Which defaults aren't considered sane at this time? 01.08.39 # * PaulPosition hits himself on the head with a (frozen) trout. Hits harder, smells less. 01.09.07 # Llorean: Dunno.. I was just following someone's idea.. I guess 'sane' wasn't the right word. 01.09.10 # * Bagder gets 'badger' marked as well since it is such a frequent spell of his nick 01.09.48 # Hehehe 01.09.55 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Khe!!!") 01.10.06 # PaulPosition: I'm not sure how much use having a bunch of people submit their configs will be for it though 01.10.10 # PaulPosition: I think such a site might perhaps attract some users and even possibly be useful to some, but I don't see how it would help us work on the defaults nor do I feel any particular need for us (the official rockbox project) to host it 01.10.25 # A lot of people use various EQ presets, Crossfeed, Replaygain, etc, all of which are sound altering and should default to off 01.10.48 # but now I really need to sleep 01.10.52 # Right... 01.10.52 # It's mostly just a default backlight setting, disk settings, max files in folder, and a couple others. 01.10.53 # cfg repositories, good idea. do it on your own. the rockbox crew has enough to worry about. 01.11.23 # Forget it, then.. I'm not into pushing stuff on people. :p 01.11.40 # It's not a repository, my idea was simply to have a survey of peopl'e's config files, and to publish the results. What we do with the results will depend on what they are... 01.11.51 # and cfg repository would be uberstupid, with all the defs, ifdefs and such.. 01.11.58 # * dewdude_ shrugs 01.12.08 # linuxstb: Or a survey of what people have very specific settings set to. 01.12.08 # a survey idea of people's configs is just as stupid 01.12.26 # dewdude_ is pretty raw 01.12.40 # I'm curious how many people have changed the max files in folder setting, for example. 01.13.17 # i changed mine - i have the top 500 rock hits 01.13.18 # Llorean: I know the only change I'll do tonight (right now thanks for reminding me) is adding track numbers in tagnavi for the Artist tree 01.13.51 Quit bluebrother ("sleep") 01.14.05 # I changed mine because I haven't sorted the OCRemix torrent yet. 01.14.42 # But other than that one folder, even 100 is more than enough for me. 01.15.41 Join suckacracka [0] (n=suckacra@ool-45717d18.dyn.optonline.net) 01.15.48 # * amiconn usually reduces 'max playlist size' on hd targets to 3000, and on flash targets to 1000 01.16.12 # I also reduce 'max files in dir' to 100 on flash targets. On hd targets I use the default 01.16.19 # Llorean: How come fmt_title is defined twice? 01.16.42 # Llorean: Are definitions considered to be a "push" and ussage to be a "pop"? 01.16.52 # amiconn: I forget all about the playlist size, I should reduce that. 01.17.26 # Lars_G: I have no clue where you're even talking about. :) I'm not a programmer on this project. 01.17.38 # advanced user? 01.17.45 # The court jester? 01.17.49 # "Minor irritation" 01.17.51 # valet parking! 01.17.56 # Ah ok. 01.18.08 # I'm more like "itch in the middle of your back" 01.18.36 # I begin small, and grow until all you want is to smash against a wall until i go away 01.18.41 # yeah right, and I'm the bublegum that sticks in your hair. 01.19.08 # PaulPosition: That's quick, just get scissors 01.19.37 # So anyone familiar with tagnavi.conf? don't send me off to the wiki I'm in a social mood today :( 01.20.00 # tagnavi isn't well documented in the wiki anyway, I believe 01.20.12 # There's a forum thread with a rather solid sample one somewhere. 01.20.33 # problem is not the sample, it's just that the way it seems to be working by reading the file is... odd 01.20.39 # not odd, just highly uncommon 01.21.04 # Lars_G: I believe you should ask Slasheri about that then (unless my memory's broken again) 01.21.14 # ok 01.22.18 Quit filoktetes ("Leaving") 01.22.37 # What was the button to avoid the OF loading on conenction to pc? 01.22.47 Quit RedBreva (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.22.47 # On iPods, Menu 01.22.51 # thanks 01.23.23 # :O 01.23.27 # Llorean: can i hug you? 01.23.36 # I think I'll pass. :-P 01.23.39 # I never noticed the hold-menu quick settings 01.23.51 # Hahaha 01.23.56 # A lot of people miss those 01.23.58 # it's amazing! the three settings I change the most usually! without looking for them in settings! 01.24.01 # Bagder: Are you still there? 01.24.06 # * Lars_G weeps 01.24.10 # I love rockbox 01.24.11 # so much 01.24.21 # goddam I have $5 on my account I think I'll donate these now 01.24.27 # Hehehe 01.24.48 # or anyone 01.24.57 # I have following error: 01.24.57 # /var/tmp//cct26Dfs.s: Assembler messages: 01.24.58 # /var/tmp//cct26Dfs.s:29: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 01.24.58 DBUG Enqueued KICK takeda` 01.24.58 # /var/tmp//cct26Dfs.s:41: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 01.25.01 # what's the status of USB support in rockbox? is there any target that has a usb msc mode within rockbox? 01.25.33 # msc mode? 01.25.43 # amiconn: UMS for flash 01.25.51 # It seems to be popular now to call it MSC 01.26.01 # If you mean mass storage, yes 01.26.28 # yes, mass storage 01.26.54 # Apparently MSC is the official acronym, while UMS is just the popular one according to wikipedia 01.27.10 # i think the usb spec calls it msc 01.27.27 # anyway, which targets support it? and where is the relevant code? 01.27.44 # All earlier rockbox targets (all archoses, iriver h100 series, h300, and x5) have mass storage support within rockbox, but it's handled in hardware 01.28.26 # Llorean: De facto Standard vs. De Jure Standard 01.28.29 # ah. 01.28.30 # Those targets have a dedicated usb-ata (or usb-mmc) bridge; rockbox just needs to flip some port bits and refrain from controlling ata itself 01.28.49 # not much use for portalplayer targets so :( 01.28.54 # nope 01.29.14 # The pp targets (and afaik gigabeat as well) needs a device-side usb stack 01.29.26 # Lars_G: Well, they're the same standards, just different names for it. So, De fact and De jure names. 01.29.27 # which is not done.. I guess? 01.29.30 # I _think_ the gigabeat has a hardware bridge as well. 01.29.36 # Llorean: you're right 01.29.51 # Well, the USB stack is also a step toward USB host as well, isn't it? 01.29.59 # Llorean: Not necesarily 01.30.07 # so just the pp targets are going to be hard work 01.30.19 # many CPUs/ICs are phisically unable to act as host. 01.30.35 # Lars_G: We have some that are physically capable though, I was referencing them specifically in this case. :) 01.30.44 # USB Host in here pretty much refers to the H300 and the X5. 01.30.49 # ok 01.30.53 # What arch are they based on? 01.31.02 # both are 68k? 01.31.06 # They're both in our Coldfire m68k, yes 01.31.10 # nod 01.31.14 # Llorean: As far as I understand what petur found out, the philips isp1362 is pretty special 01.31.22 # because on the arm side I've not seen an arm with a built in host mode in use yet 01.31.32 # amiconn: Special? 01.31.42 # The PP502x have USB host hardware. 01.31.46 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.31.48 # they have usbotg 01.31.56 # then I stand corrected 01.32.03 # barrywardell: That's different? 01.32.26 # Special in that it provides much hardware support. Philips also provides an example programs whose code can be used freely 01.32.40 # ...but is probably of very little use for different chips 01.32.55 # Question, what happened to the varible file list possitioning patch? it has been long since it applies to cvs but afaik looking at the code the cvs doesn't has support for it, yet, right? 01.33.00 # linuxstb: there's a little more to it than just a host. there's also controlling whether it's in host or device mode, etc. it's almost the same though. 01.33.16 # usbotg is an addition to usb2.0 01.33.37 # is there no open usb stack the team could grab and reuse out there? or is it more a matter of cpu specific configuring/calls than the stack itself? 01.33.45 # Two usbotg devices can also negotiate which one will act as the host 01.33.50 Quit gotthardt ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.33.58 # oh... 01.34.18 # amiconn: That would be wonderfull for coupling rockboxed devices on the go, even if it requires a special cable 01.34.43 # device mode would be easier to do than otg though 01.35.02 # linuxstb: Seems you're right when looking at firmware/target/arm/gigabeat/meg-fx/usb-meg-fx.c:usb_enable() 01.36.51 # Lars_G: Linux has an open usb stack, but my guess is that adapting that is more work than implementing one from scratch, adapted to the way rockbox works 01.37.14 # amiconn: I would look at the other world I delve on. Embedded programming 01.37.37 # amiconn: For example, direct arm, avr and pic programming, specially arm and avr since there are gcc targets for them 01.38.03 # Does ArchOpen or any of the other ones have a USB stack? 01.38.48 # the driver we have for the pp usb is for linux, so that makes using a linux like usb stack a nicer option... 01.39.10 # nicer=easier 01.39.59 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.39.59 # * scorche wonders why the KnowledgeMap page hasnt gotten any love 01.40.56 # everyone is too modest 01.41.01 # scorche: Nobody wants to be pestered by "How do I play my music" questions if they fill in the playback bit, or "How do I make Doom work" if they do plugins 01.41.30 # If there was a "useless members" category, i'd jot myself in 01.41.45 # Llorean: well, it is to be used for development purposes...i doubt normal people would find it after i take it off the topic 01.42.09 # * scorche resigns to asking devs and filling it out himself 01.43.48 # Some of us just don't really have much to write in there :) 01.46.05 # scorche: It wasn't clear to me if you were looking for lists of developers who have the knowledge (and various targets), or the knowledge itself? 01.46.42 Join webguest53 [0] (i=425dac13@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-02ac665af349c7ad) 01.47.00 # List of developers. 01.47.11 # At least, that's the impression I got. 01.47.40 Join CpuWhiz [0] (n=eric@cpe-66-87-222-218.co.sprintbbd.net) 01.50.37 # On the subject of ignored wiki pages, there is a table in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer waiting for test results for the various targets to be filled in... 01.51.30 # linuxstb: knowledge in general 01.51.51 # of the code mainly, except for strong knowledge in the hardware section 01.52.25 # eg, you for ipods in general, dan_a for 3g, barrywardell for h10, amiconn for archos, etc 01.52.43 # meh 01.53.05 # * amiconn points out that he is not only an archos specialist 01.53.23 # * scorche points out that he didnt say you were....just as an example 01.53.23 # Well, that's why you should fill in the list. :-P 01.53.29 # Don't worry we know you're incredibly smart in other areas. 01.53.33 # which is why i wanted the devs themselves to fill it out 01.53.49 # Llorean: yeah ;) 01.53.52 # Lars_G: If you want a problem solved, get amiconn interested enough in it. :-P 01.54.06 Join Everybody| [0] (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 01.54.20 # He'll either fix it, or tell you why it makes the code too big. *grin* 01.54.26 # lol 01.54.53 # Yes I think it was amiconn who tried to bribe me with money to come up with a test to point out the source of the battery life on ipods 01.55.02 # battery life [problems] 01.55.09 # Speaking of that sort of thing, Shawn_K did actually post a .patch (sorta, it's in the forums) with other changes, but I haven't even glanced at it yet. 01.58.04 # A .rar file at rapidshare.de, couldn't be more inconvenient.... 01.58.45 # I know... 01.58.58 # how many times must we mention the tracker? 01.59.13 # doesn anyone one why rockbox would not work with a gigabeat with the original firmware? trying to help someone and seeing if anyone here has any ideas. We have checked and rechecked the bootloader. He even tried the one I have on my gigabeat and still no go. He also can't seem to update the the latest version of gigabeat. we are currently trying different countries. 01.59.15 # at least he made a patch though, so we are making some progress... 01.59.29 # * barrywardell downloads the elephants dream test videos 01.59.44 # Alonea: #gigabeat would be a better area for that 02.00.04 # I'd put up money for rockbox on my ipod... I bought it just for that reason... only offer I've seen so far costs me an additional ipod and isn't guaranteed 02.00.09 # * Llorean wonders why the Gigabeat port keeps so separate like that. 02.00.10 # yeah, I was asking in there and no response. So I was seeing if anyone over here had an idea or two. 02.00.35 # can i use the cvs/daily build for my ipod 5.5g (30GB) or should/do i use one of the unsupported builds in the forums 02.00.43 # hachi: The simplest solution would be "Buy an older iPod" if you're willing to spend money on it. 02.00.44 # hachi: nano G2? 02.01.01 # CpuWhiz: Yes, the CVS build will work fine. 02.01.04 # 5.5 80GB 02.01.09 # Why is broadcom such a pita in general? 02.01.22 # * Lars_G sighs 02.01.54 # Llorean: well... I wasn't intending to spend 1000 bucks on ipods, that's why I don't want to buy another 02.02.06 # hachi: Sell the 80gb, buy a 60gb. :-P 02.02.17 # hachi: Money isn't magically going to make the process any faster. It'll happen when it does 02.02.33 # If you want it sooner, you should (or should've) buy an iPod that is supported. Otherwise, just have patience. 02.02.45 # Or help with the code. :) 02.04.33 # I'll have another go at building it myself... but last time I tried I couldn't even get the same errors that they speak of in the ports forum 02.04.55 # my ipod would just dump into the 'recover' screen the moment I turned it on 02.05.43 Quit Everybody|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.05 Join Everybody|away [0] (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 02.09.45 # Llorean: this one, right? http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip 02.12.39 # Yes 02.12.41 # I believe so. 02.12.54 Join adam13021 [0] (i=cbab4195@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f1984f286ceec62d) 02.13.22 Quit adam13021 (Client Quit) 02.17.05 # it boots fast huh 02.17.46 # it does 02.17.52 Join debauched_sloth [0] (n=debauche@c-24-63-72-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 02.17.57 # 2.5 seconds on my nano 02.19.11 Part pixelma 02.19.28 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.22 # so it's not going to pickup the songs from the iPod_Control folder? 02.22.13 Join webguest96 [0] (i=18542121@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8d8c6aa4d9ea2c87) 02.22.39 # unless you browse it. 02.22.56 # Or use database 02.22.59 # i was asking because i didn't see the folder in the browser 02.23.17 # yeah, because the hidden flag is enabled on it. 02.23.31 # seeing as i have nothing in my ipod_control folder, i never bothered to figure out how to enable it 02.23.34 # ah, the would do it huh 02.23.52 # yup. 02.24.19 # Hi all, am using rockbox on ipod nano and it doesn't order the songs based on the track number meta tag. Is there a way to get it to do that? 02.24.43 # View in database mode, or rename your files to include the track number at the start. 02.26.44 # sounds like i get to boot into windows to fix the hidden flag :( 02.27.07 # general settings -> file view? 02.27.15 # CpuWhiz: Or change Rockbox to show all files. 02.27.24 # (it's an option) 02.27.45 # webguest96: Yes, but you also need to initialise the database (followed by a shutdown and restart). 02.28.58 Join rkostynu [0] (n=chatzill@wnpgmb06dc1-4-233.dynamic.mts.net) 02.29.38 # ok, 2 more question, 1) how do i get back to the file browser while it's playing 02.29.43 # it doesn't seem to support flac metadata, the db view is empty 02.30.20 # CpuWhiz: what device? iPod? 02.30.28 # CpuWhiz: click "select" (middle button) 02.30.53 # thanks 02.30.58 # webguest96: I don't really know about this, but perhaps OGG/FLAC would support metadata instead 02.31.04 # it's $5 02.31.12 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 02.31.13 # :D 02.31.16 # and my 2nd question, do i need another font for my japanese tags (and do you know of one i can use) 02.31.28 # webguest96: It's indexed my FLACs properly. 02.31.31 # There is a font that supports japanese, but I forget the name 02.31.46 # CpuWhiz: I think Unifont is the most comprehensive for unicode support 02.31.48 # if you find which one it is, let me know I want to change my whole ipod to japanese lang 02.31.56 # Ah yes unifont should work 02.33.28 # hachi: Rockbox doesn't support Ogg/FLAC. But metadata in standard FLAC files works. 02.33.28 # I wonder if I should port a smaller/"cuter" japanese capable font to rockbox 02.33.40 # webguest96: Is the metadata displayed in the WPS when you play your FLAC files? 02.33.53 # doesn't support flac? o.O 02.34.05 # It doesn't support FLAC in the Ogg container. 02.34.16 # It supports native FLAC files - i.e. .flac 02.34.56 # Ahhh ok ok 02.35.07 # phew 02.35.10 # linuxstb: yes I see all of the meta info when playing just the order is wrong 02.36.11 # It sounds like you haven't initialised the database correctly. What did you do? 02.36.25 # it seems it froze, how do i reset it? 02.36.36 # Hold MENU+SELECT 02.38.20 # hey, does that work on the gigabeat too? I have had mine freeze before and I had no idea how to unfreeze it other than turn the battery switch off 02.38.34 # It's a hardware reset built into the ipods. 02.39.01 # I guess the battery switch is the Gigabeat equivalent. 02.39.29 # where is the font setting 02.39.55 Join World_Entity [0] (n=chatzill@63.201.154.179) 02.40.48 # the reset seems to have worked, now the db view works. Thanks! 02.40.54 Join Alexinc [0] (n=Ajaxinc@71.237.170.237) 02.43.04 # well, before with the original firmware, all you had to do was hold down the power button and it would turn off. 02.43.21 Join Vyrus001 [0] (n=Vyrus001@adsl-69-231-44-192.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 02.43.39 Quit webguest96 ("CGI:IRC") 02.43.43 Quit Lars_G ("Leaving") 02.44.39 # Alonea: Rockbox should have a normal shutdown button, I don't know what it is on the Gigabeat though (assuming it's been implemented). 02.44.44 Quit kraizee (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.45 Quit Vyrus001 (Client Quit) 02.47.18 # I will ask around. 02.47.59 # now i just need to find that script i made that fixes all the tags (via the xml file) itunes likes to forget to write to the file 02.49.17 Quit World_Entity ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120417]") 02.50.17 # there is an experimental itunesDB to rockbox DB program in the wiki. I can't speak to its current status. 02.50.55 # ah, well, I just hate having to reset the time so much. someone mentioned holding down menu and select to reset it, but thats for the ipod. 02.51.16 # ignore that... 02.51.59 # Alonea: Are you asking for a power off, or a reset. They're considered two very different things 02.52.01 # how do i get back into the original firmware? 02.52.36 # CpuWhiz: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 02.53.08 Join d4ft [0] (i=4477c920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c13ffa4b78b80697) 02.53.44 # oh, well, it kept freezing and I could not get it to power off/reset unless I used the battery switch. Used to, with the original firmware, you could still turn it off with the power button even if it froze 02.54.22 # does rockbox have any sort of "podcast sorting" like the default ipod firmware 02.54.33 # ? 02.55.48 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@c-71-56-149-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 02.56.51 # barrywardell: Were those mpegplayer results with the kernel_on_cop_6.diff patch? 02.57.26 # i use amarok and love the integration of podcasts 02.58.03 # No-one has implemented anything specific to podcasts into Rockbox. 03.00.01 # thanks, maybe sometime i might even try to right a plugin 03.00.26 Join webguest36 [0] (i=18622591@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-90a1c7265db7fca1) 03.00.32 # how hard you think that might be? 03.00.43 # What exactly do you want Rockbox to do? 03.00.48 # It seems like it'd serve better as a function of Database. 03.00.58 # i have no idea what im doing.. but i need a gigabeat bootloader. what should i do? 03.01.21 # All you'd have to do is get bookmarking working on Database, add a "Mark when finished" option to database, and then have a category that is Genre == Podcast and "Mark when finished" in your tagnavi. 03.01.36 # webguest36: Wait until one is made available. 03.01.54 # organize podcasts according to date or without having to manually edit playlists and stuff 03.02.01 # or otherwise make my own? 03.02.16 # d4ft: Rockbox has a sort-by-file-date option already. 03.02.17 # d4ft, I'm interested in helping with this 03.02.17 # cus dang i dont think i could manage that 03.02.21 # VERY 03.02.34 # i am hosting one... 03.02.53 # Or the simpliest option would just be to name the podcasts with the date at the start - e.g. 2007-01-02-mypodcast.mp3 03.03.33 # but that is alot of work compared to the apple podcasting features 03.03.38 # ..........anyone by anychange use a gigabeat? 03.03.41 # chance* 03.04.13 # I was hosting it for someone else who needed one, but its still up. I dont remember where I originally got the gigabeat bootloader but it works. Is it ok if I post the link here? 03.04.22 # yes 03.04.32 # as long as it works 03.04.34 # d4ft: As Llorean says, it's probably best done with the database. But that's assuming your podcasts contain good metadata. 03.05.05 # linuxstb: I don't really know the full features of Apple's method, but I think that'd actually about cover it, as far as I'm aware. 03.05.12 # with amarok or itunes there are features that allow you to update and sync and organize regardless of the lazziness 03.05.23 # http://myweb.cableone.net/Tx-Files9/FWIMG01.DAT 03.05.49 # uhh 03.05.55 # its notepad with a bunch of squares 03.05.55 # its my private page my cable company gave me. I use it to upload files to people 03.06.15 # oh, what browser you using? you gotta save the actual file. 03.06.16 # d4ft: Those features are host-side, though 03.06.20 # df4t: What I don't think Rockbox should do is to try and integrate with proprietory software like itunes. It's a never-ending battle to maintain compatibility. With some thought, I'm sure a solution can be found though. 03.06.24 # aol.. lol. i saved it 03.06.26 # d4ft: And would have absolutely nothing to do with Rockbox. 03.06.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.07.12 # alonea: well i opened it.. incase its something crazy.. hah 03.07.15 # i used to have a zen micro and try to listen to podcasts with it. but was really crappy compared to the ipod firmware 03.07.18 # Rockbox would just need to store whether or not a file has been finished in its database, and whether or not it's marked as a "Podcast" (or audiobook, or other programs to do this with) (don't even need to require genre) and then any syncing program can have its own related function 03.07.32 # For example erasing, and replacing, any files that are marked as "Finished" with the Podcast flag 03.07.47 # and i dont like appple 03.07.53 # yeah, it will look like garbled text in notepad. tis fun to stare at in confusion. and this is the file directly off my gigabeat that I am using right at this moment 03.08.51 # maybe rockbox could integrate with something like amarok or anything open source 03.08.54 # your possitive? 03.09.05 # with one s 03.09.26 # d4ft: Or Amarok could integrate with Rockbox 03.09.37 # Rockbox already has its own database format. 03.09.45 # It's the choice of host-side software whether it'll support it or not 03.09.47 # webguest36: yes. its perfectly fine. It works. and you are supposed to back up your original bootloader anyway. 03.10.21 # or maybe there could be a "podcast" folder where apps like bashpodder, juice could sync with 03.10.49 # d4ft: What do you even *mean* by that? 03.11.01 # You also keep referring to ipod-specific apps 03.11.11 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.11.17 # and it would tell you if you have already listened to the episode 03.11.30 # d4ft: Did you read what I said regarding Database? 03.11.38 # alonea: what original bootloader.. the rock box program? *sighs* im terrible at this 03.11.40 # d4ft: You could start a wiki page with ideas about how to implement podcast support in Rockbox. 03.11.58 # webguest36: Did you read the install instructions? 03.11.59 # I expect the main issue is integrating with PC-side software. 03.12.08 # haha yea 03.12.08 # webguest36:the official ones, in the manual 03.12.28 # webguest36: Because it tells you *exactly* which file to backup 03.12.52 # no, amarok supports several different mp3 players including iriver ift and the creative nomad 03.12.58 # webguest36: Ok, in the instructions, it tells you to rename the original bootloader your gigabeat came with, as in toshiba's bootloader, to fwimg01.dat.orig or something similar 03.13.12 # AND generic audio players 03.13.15 # d4ft: Then Amarok can choose to support the Rockbox database. If THEY want to. 03.13.22 # webguest36: the bootloader I gave you is for loading rockbox 03.13.40 # wait which do i do.. rename the original or get a new one? 03.13.40 # The only way Rockbox could support Amarok is if it started mimicing some other database format that Amarok already knows 03.13.48 # And if Amarok supports Generic MP3 player, then it already supports Rockbox. 03.13.56 # oh. both.. 03.13.59 # "Rockbox" is people as well as software... 03.14.02 # i see where it sayts to rename 03.14.10 # webguest36: you rename the one that came with your gigabeat 03.14.32 # The Rockbox community (users and devs) need to talk to the Amarok community. But I agree it would probably need Amarok devs to do the work. 03.14.41 # ^would need to 03.14.52 # webguest36: the file I gave you will not be renamed 03.15.07 # alonea: and then i move the rename one (it says)... do i still need another? 03.15.29 # or the one you gave me can be in addition to the original, unnamed 03.15.43 Join nuge_ [0] (n=ideas@d206-116-182-64.bchsia.telus.net) 03.15.54 # it does support rockbox but it would be great if it had thepodcast integration 03.16.35 # Which would probably need a change to Rockbox, and a change to Amarok... 03.16.43 # webguest36: You will have 2 files. the original that has been renamed so it doesn't load and you still have it as a backup, and the file I gave you. 03.17.00 # And I think the change to Rockbox would mostly be the ones I listed regarding a Podcast flag and a "Finished" flag in the database. 03.17.11 # maybe small details with rockbox and a few changes in amarok and this would be very possible 03.17.17 # I *think* that those two flags would be the minimum required for pretty solid podcast support 03.18.22 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.18.26 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 03.18.26 # private chat? this is confusing 03.18.33 # alonea 03.19.00 # o ya, and maybe feed organization 03.19.08 # linuxstb: yes. with kernel_on_cop_6. they're a bit disappointing 03.19.48 # do most rockbox users use linux also 03.19.50 # ? 03.20.11 # barrywardell: What do you get for test_fps? 03.20.13 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.20.42 # d4ft: Isn't Feed Organization host side again? 03.21.18 # yes, very true, my bad 03.21.31 # linuxstb: last time i checked, I got the values in the LcdFrameRate wiki page 03.21.35 # i'll test again now... 03.21.38 # Remember that Rockbox, the software, is *just* on the MP3 player, and has nothing to do with what happens on the PC 03.21.41 # my bad is stupid to say actually 03.21.52 # well duh 03.22.03 # its "my bad" 03.22.05 # barrywardell: Yes, I've just found them - 40.5fps on the H10, compared to 48.5fps on the ipod Color. 03.22.35 # d4ft: You should really look into what tagnavi can do, and then figure out which key features it's missing that would be needed for proper sorting of Podcasts. Then, once you've got that, file a feature request. 03.23.00 # d4ft: After you've done that, contact Amarok through whatever path they have for feature requests, and try to convince them to add support for the Rockbox database format 03.23.15 Join jadedlilalie2k7 [0] (i=44bcdaf2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-92069ad6f2d6dccd) 03.23.31 # barrywardell: Maybe the lcd_yuv_blit() for the H10 doesn't include the optimisations that have been applied to the ipod version. 03.23.53 # I have a question on how to install a WPC theme for my 5.5G iPod 03.24.30 # linuxstb: lcd_yuv_blit() hasn't changed since the first version you gave me iirc 03.25.26 # Someone (I forget who) wrote a few patches optimising it on the ipod. I can't remember if the H10 version was from before or after those patches though. 03.25.51 # Seems your LCD driver could also benefit from a boost... 03.26.40 Quit nuge (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.28.49 # webguest36: did you get my pm? 03.29.03 Quit jadedlilalie2k7 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.29.54 # linuxstb: the h10 version came after those patches 03.30.41 # I'm just testing the 160x128 version on my ipod Color, and it's around 34fps... 03.30.50 Quit shnee ("Konversation terminated!") 03.33.15 # linuxstb: test_fps results are the same now as in the wiki 03.35.27 # It's odd that mpegplayer is slower than the test_fps differences would indicate though. 03.35.57 # is there a rockbox ipod channel? 03.36.25 # This seems to be it most of the time... 03.36.37 # But no, there are no target-specific channels. 03.36.56 # there is for gigabeat :] 03.38.02 # Not officially. 03.39.20 Quit webguest36 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.41.28 # the ipod lcd drive does it's lcd_update a little differently than the h10 driver 03.42.17 # the h10 driver only uses the base lcd address. the ipod driver uses other undocumented addresses 03.42.37 # * barrywardell adds lcd experiments to his todo list 03.45.16 Quit Osse ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.46.33 Quit PaulPosition (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.48.13 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 03.57.26 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable115.145-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 04.01.58 Part dfkt 04.02.31 Join drapgigabeatf10 [0] (i=415ef55c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d0a6533effac741c) 04.02.57 Quit Alonea ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 04.03.03 # good evening, I have questions about gigabeat f10...can anyone help? :) 04.03.47 # Best to ask your question, and wait to see if anyone can answer. 04.03.58 # sounds like a plan... 04.04.31 # I've read the instructions and I think it's wise to save my current original configuration before I change the bootloader...I can get to the core, but can't find the original .dat image.. 04.04.47 # in the instructions, there's a note that says it might be " doubly " hidden 04.04.52 # that's the part I don't get.. . 04.05.46 # ( accessing from a Windows box, btw... ) 04.05.48 # What instructions are you following? 04.06.30 # from the rockbox's website as well as its own forums.. 04.07.18 # to be more precise : 04.07.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort 04.07.43 # Try following the manual 04.08.16 # The manual itself doesn't mention anything about the bootloader, as far as I can see, unfortunately... 04.08.39 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 04.08.42 # Oh, it's in the manual, but I guess that's not until the next daily build 04.08.55 # Anyway, the file is on your drive, but it's hidden so you have to type in the path manual 04.09.20 # Just type X:\GBSYSTEM\FWIMG into Explorer, where X is your gigabeat's drive 04.09.35 # right, and that should give me access to the folder itself right away? 04.09.39 # hmm, let's see! 04.10.39 # it actually says path incorrect, etc.. 04.11.53 # Windows doesn't say "Path incorrect" when a folder isn't there... 04.12.14 # no it doesn't, I was merely summing it for you 04.12.38 # cannot find file: ///g:/GBSYSTEM/FWIMG 04.12.49 # Make sure the path or internet address is correct 04.12.52 # is what it says 04.13.12 # And there's no visible GBSYSTEM folder on your G: drive when you've got it set to show hidden files and not hide system files (check both of these settings) 04.13.25 Quit barrywardell () 04.13.25 # I can se GBSYSTEM 04.13.38 # but not the FWIMG folder... 04.14.32 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.15.29 # what gigiabeat do you have? 04.15.33 # f10 04.15.45 # what's inside the gbsystem folder 04.16.21 # DATADLT3.DAT - DATATS3.DAT - DNODE3.DAT 04.16.29 # only those 3 files.. 04.18.45 # actually, typo on the second one, it's DATALST3.DAT 04.18.54 # but i'm sure that doesn't change much 04.19.07 # dude you need to make it show hiddne operating system files 04.19.17 # I checked :) 04.19.19 # cause if you don't have the fwimg folder there is no way your rockbox would boot 04.19.40 # it actually doesn't boot 04.19.51 # i'm trying to save and backup my original config 04.19.54 # quick question: should the rockboxdev.sh script be run with root perms? 04.19.56 # before I install rockbox 04.20.06 # drapgigabeatf10: You can't install Rockbox without getting to that folder anwyay. 04.20.08 # anyway 04.20.23 # lavid: It depends where you install the compilers - it needs to run with permission to write to the install directory. 04.20.48 # do you guys think that IE7 would block certain accesses to files for something like this? I just thought of that. 04.21.14 # linuxstb: well, any particular reason NOT to run it with root perms I guess should be my question 04.21.18 # You're browsing your device in IE7?! 04.21.47 # lavid: That's up to you :) But all it does is download the gcc/binutils source, run configure, make and then make install. 04.21.51 # well IE is built in Windows, and the core of it uses the browser, even if you go through " my computer, etc.. " 04.22.23 # lavid: But there is also no disadvantage to installing the compilers somewhere in your home directory - I use $HOME/RB/ 04.22.38 # In which case, you don't need to run the script as root. 04.22.49 # linuxstb: thanks. that answers the question 04.22.50 # drapgigabeatf10, a copy of the original firmware is stored in the gigabeat room installation folder 04.23.05 # drapgigabeatf10: Have you *just* done "show hidden files" or have you also *definitely* told it not to hide system files? 04.23.39 # Try this. In GBSYSTEM, try to create a folder named FWIMG. 04.24.13 # llorean I can assure you that there's no setting to hide any file, trust me on that.. :) 04.24.20 # lemme try to create a folder. 04.24.53 # I was able to create the folder 04.25.32 # You should see if you can catch someone in #Gigabeat then, and tell them your FWIMG folder was missing. 04.25.48 # i'll see what I can do 04.26.02 # For some reason they hang out in there instead of here, which somewhat splits the ability to support that target. 04.26.05 # jba you think I should flash it with the original firmware and give it a go again? 04.27.03 # Llorean, we hang out in both, and it was mainly because we have a large signal ratio 04.27.12 # which would turn into a large noise level in here 04.27.33 # and that was mainly while the target was in development 04.27.54 # jba I copied files from gigabeat room to folder.. that worked, and the file is greyed out, just like if it was a hidden folder showing.. 04.27.57 # i'll go with that 04.27.59 # thank you 04.28.01 # very much 04.28.02 # i dont see why we need a #gigabeat channel anymore 04.28.02 # Maybe #Gigabeat should be retired now that it's in CVS then, so that we don't end up with the same split we had in the forums. 04.28.04 # evening gents 04.28.15 Quit drapgigabeatf10 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.28.36 # i'm sure the gigbeat guys won't mind, it's just that we doo get lots of chatter in there 04.28.41 # The problem with multiple locations, especially target specific ones, is that people think that there are major differences between the targets, as opposed to understanding that it's really mostly one software that just runs on various hardwares. 04.28.48 # as long as the rest of the rockbox guys don't mind? 04.29.02 # jba: it is fine....we will control it here 04.29.13 # Ideally, if there's a lot of non-Rockbox chatter, it should stay there. 04.29.26 # But anyone interested in Rockbox, or supporting Rockbox, should focus their attentions in this channel to solidify it all. 04.29.29 # well someone officially from #rockbox should pop into #gigabeat and ask all the guys to move on over 04.29.41 # i am already in there 04.29.45 # nah it's mostly gigabeat hardware chatter 04.29.55 # scorche, i was hinting towards that ;)( 04.30.02 # jba: who is the owner...markun? 04.30.14 # markun is in france atm 04.30.32 # he was the owner, but is away for a while, next in charge i think is wibbix, or maybe shonbky? 04.30.42 # but most active devs atm seem to be sloth and gotthardt 04.33.19 Join vadim [0] (n=vadim@ip70-181-141-86.sd.sd.cox.net) 04.35.28 # hi 04.35.36 # am around here too, mostly 04.35.48 Join Jsunu [0] (n=Jsunu@d154-20-129-186.bchsia.telus.net) 04.36.31 # Gigabeat has a very fun rescue mode 04.36.35 Quit PaulPosition (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.59 Join hotwire_ [0] (n=hotwire@69-17-132-197.kingkom.com) 04.37.26 Join soaa [0] (n=soaa@dsl-129-91.aei.ca) 04.37.31 # here i am~ 04.37.36 Nick soaa is now known as Soaa (n=soaa@dsl-129-91.aei.ca) 04.37.50 Quit gotthardt ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 04.38.09 # enter gigabeat dev's stage right 04.38.20 # * Llorean applauds. 04.38.21 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@c-71-56-149-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 04.38.31 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932463.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.38.48 # i feel like a sheep 04.38.54 # baaa 04.38.54 # nhehe 04.39.03 # and i would be the colly 04.39.07 # woof woof 04.39.18 # hi all 04.39.36 # hi 04.39.38 # debauched_sloth, what cvs do you do your commits to? @rockbox or your private? 04.39.45 # toffe, vadim and wibbix don't seem to be awale atm 04.39.53 # speak of the devil 04.40.00 # jba: what? 04.40.08 # gigabeat owner, new to the group, programmer by trade, setting up my environment to learn exactly whats going on inside 04.40.14 # public cvs 04.40.34 # welcome rkostynu 04.40.54 # been reading lots in the last few days, love the port, kudos to markun and others, very nice job 04.40.55 # welcme 04.41.48 # Welcome Gigabeaters. Man, we need a better name for you guys. 04.42.11 # gigabeatees? ;) 04.42.11 # Gigadevs? 04.42.42 # gigaboars 04.42.48 # tonight, more like gigabeaten ;) 04.42.53 Join triplah [0] (n=dev@203.144.9.181) 04.42.59 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 04.43.06 # i ripped a cd to ogg last night 04.43.09 # i'm listening to it on rockbox now 04.43.11 # on my nano 04.43.17 # there is clicking sometimes 04.43.26 # i havent tested them on my machine at home yet though 04.43.40 # how does the nano handle decoding ogg? 04.43.41 # GeeBees 04.45.20 # triplah: I've never had decoding issue on my nano, I'd suggest checking it on a computer. Assuming you don't have peakmeters, which can cause audio playback problems in nearly any format 04.45.30 Join combrains [0] (n=combrain@222-155-27-181.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 04.45.33 # peakmeters? 04.46.56 Join cynicalliberal [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-7-158-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 04.47.47 # triplah: They're on the WPS, go up and down with the music. 04.48.38 # ahh right 04.48.42 # no i dont then 04.48.52 # thanks for the help. i'll check on my box at home 04.48.54 # Equalizer, and Crossfeed, can also affect playback 04.49.06 # i'm going to try and hack banshee to play nice with rockbox too 04.49.33 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 04.49.34 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.01.06 # Llorean, GigabeatFXPort has been updated in the wiki. 05.01.19 Quit Jsunu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.02.36 # hotwire_: Thank you. 05.02.58 # There is now a Toshiba installation forum in our forums. 05.04.42 Quit cynicalliberal ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]") 05.04.52 # thanks, Llorean 05.05.17 Join phrozen77_ [0] (n=phrozen7@p54931D68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.05.39 # Remember, our forums are very strict. Always read the "Posting in this forum" post for the section you're in before posting. ;) 05.06.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.07.14 Join drap_gigabeatf10 [0] (i=415ef55c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-30ea3dce8d72e160) 05.07.22 # hello back 05.07.42 # jba, llorean it works :) 05.08.35 # drap, i got a f10 also :] 05.09.02 # cool alexinc, do you have the possibility of watching videos on it with rockbox? 05.09.18 # that's my next step, since I got the main thing going 05.10.20 Join votetrev [0] (n=kellert@host-142-12-107-208.midco.net) 05.10.29 # hey guys 05.10.36 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 05.10.37 # yep 05.10.45 # but it only plays a few minutes of low quality 05.10.54 # anyone familiar with the 5.5g ipod video? 05.10.58 # cause what it does is fill your ram with the first like 25mb of bideo 05.11.04 # then it crashes when it runs out 05.11.12 # they still havnt done the rebuffering code 05.11.12 # alexinc, does sound work in sync with video 05.11.24 # vote, i am kind of 05.11.25 # ok 05.11.32 # ya, you jsut turn the options on in the mpg player 05.11.40 # theres 2 options havign to do with frams 05.11.43 # frams 05.11.46 # fames 05.11.57 # ok.. so I guess now we wait for geniuses to work the ram over and get the next built eh? lol 05.12.16 # alexinc.....you put a different theme on rockbox on that model? 05.12.45 # yep 05.12.54 # i use the beatmp_girl 05.12.55 # :] 05.13.02 # o wait 05.13.16 Part webguest53 05.13.18 # you mean the 5.5, its my friends that i do all the work on, ya we use a diffrent theme on it 05.13.20 # ok...i put on a different theme and the id3 type stuff such as artist and album etc, that stuff wont show up 05.13.29 Quit phrozen77 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.13.33 # let me test this with the latest build 05.13.35 # one second 05.13.49 # ok 05.14.11 # damn im so thankful there is someone in here to help me :) i been tryin for a day i knew there would be people :) 05.15.55 # my id3 stuff seems to be working 05.16.06 # are you using the database, and what theme you using? 05.16.14 # ill try the theme your using 05.16.57 Quit drap_gigabeatf10 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.18.19 # GB people, I have just committed a patch that seems to solve the track switch/speedup issue here 05.18.44 # If you could test it out on your GB's, with your tracks, I'd appreciate it 05.18.45 # sweet, thanks, whens it going into the cvs? 05.18.59 # it's building now - done in 5 05.19.00 # i cant build so if you can upload the build somewhere :] 05.19.01 # ok 05.19.03 Join Shawn_K [0] (n=skhamene@c-24-13-34-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.19.11 # hey all 05.19.13 Join hhehw [0] (i=spike@administration.mediwana.org) 05.19.13 # how goes it 05.19.16 # will be here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml 05.19.23 # if this doesn't work, I will back down one more level tomorrow 05.19.37 # ok 05.20.13 # I have a hankering question...if this doesn't exist, it needs to be made....a CPU time recorder for rockbox 05.20.24 # heh 05.20.31 # anyone know if there is the ability to measure CPU time? 05.20.34 Part debauched_sloth 05.20.41 # tell me when the build is done 05.20.49 Join debauched_sloth [0] (n=debauche@c-24-63-72-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 05.20.52 # who? 05.21.03 # debauched 05.21.09 # he just left, lol 05.21.24 # he's back 05.21.27 # tell him now 05.21.27 # yes 05.21.33 # missed it though 05.21.36 # tell me when the build is done 05.22.24 # Shawn_K, there is (or was) some profiling code already in rockbox if that's what you're looking for. 05.22.42 # hmmm 05.23.34 # where can I find this? will the wiki mention it? 05.23.53 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 05.24.01 # actually, I have no idea what keywords to search, got any direction for me? 05.24.58 # Shawn_K: See the TECH doc apparently, in the source. 05.24.58 # Ah, seems I'm possibly remembering incorrectly. 05.25.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2458 05.25.03 Join Nimdae [0] (n=nimmeh@71.15.104.161) 05.25.03 Quit rkostynu ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 05.25.33 # safetydan: I believe there's profiling included now. 05.25.42 # build is complete, GB people 05.25.53 # sup all 05.25.56 # thanks 05.26.04 # thankyou 05.26.08 # will rock box work on Creative Zen Vision: W Black 60GB 05.26.31 # hhehw: Do you see "Creative Zen Vision" listed in the supported targets on the site? 05.26.37 # thank you, if this still fails, I back waaay down and we try again 05.26.56 # no i dont but someone told me that it dose just want to make sure is that so worrg ? 05.27.12 # Llorean, ah, the one place I wouldn't have thought to look. The documentation. 05.27.16 # hhehw: It does not. The list on the site is accurate. 05.27.24 # thank you 05.27.29 # very much 05.27.33 # safetydan: Not only "the documentation" but the actual stuff we send out with the source even, not just the wiki "documentation" 05.27.52 # The last place anyone would ever look for anything other than the GPL 05.28.01 # pretty much 05.28.12 # you just grepped the source for "profiler" didn't you? :) 05.28.20 # I actually found it by googling "Rockbox profiling" and seeing it in the mailing list. 05.28.47 # :( 05.29.08 # I believe profiling needs some TLC -- haven't seen anyone reporting useful results with it lately. 05.29.19 # lostlogic: Have people been reporting results with it? 05.29.26 # and no, I'm not gonna be loving it up any time soon. 05.29.35 # Llorean: well I was right after I created it :-D 05.29.41 # Hehehe 05.29.55 # I noticed that you were the one who said to look in the TECH document on the list. 05.30.03 # weird, "rockbox profiler" and "rockbox profiling" return totally different results in google 05.30.14 # I mainly said that because I have no idea how much CPU the "main" thread hogs 05.30.28 # approximately none. 05.30.54 # isn't all the drawing done on the main thread? 05.31.33 # wps thread? 05.31.42 # oh, lol 05.32.05 # hmmm 05.32.10 # lostlogic: I think he's talking about in the menus as well, since he made mention of scrolling earlier. 05.32.30 # That is, but isn't menu rendering done on the main thread? 05.32.53 # yes 05.32.53 # alexinc...still there? sorry my lil kid was gettin into something and had to go get him :) 05.32.55 # Honestly, I thought WPS and menu was on dif thread 05.33.06 # ok, it is so then ^^ 05.33.31 # ya, im here 05.33.37 # what was the theme your using 05.33.40 # oh sweet 05.33.44 # and are you using the latest cvs build? 05.33.48 # let me look quick 05.33.50 # k 05.33.50 Join Vyrus001 [0] (n=Vyrus001@adsl-69-231-68-86.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 05.33.52 # now I'm less sure 05.33.52 # eh, I don't have a wps thread listed 05.33.55 # *goes to code* 05.34.00 # is it running in background? 05.34.05 # im using the cvs build from like this morning at 1AM so new enough i think? 05.34.15 # new enough 05.34.16 # :] 05.34.43 # jBlackGlass-5g-20060929 05.34.46 # thats the theme 05.35.08 # hmmm, why is my audio thread using CPU when I'm not playing music? 05.35.21 # Is it just a general system audio? 05.35.22 # ill try it 05.35.24 # one sec 05.35.44 # and it seems MAYBE im having other problems to related to themes...like if i try themes on the regular skin its all the same pretty much....but still some of the graphics on the buttons are like...distorted/miscolored 05.36.38 # Shawn_K: the audio thread should be idle if you aren't playing 05.36.42 # it is the thread that manages compressed audio 05.36.52 # sorry when i said regular skin i meant regular foxbox theme 05.36.55 # and the ones it comes with 05.36.55 # It's not though 05.37.07 # and I must appologize, main is where the wps is drawn, I was mistaken 05.37.25 # ok, so main does use some CPU 05.37.28 # votetrex is your ipod a 30gb one? 05.37.30 # question is....how much? 05.37.35 # yeh 30gb 05.37.43 # i want to try to balance all out between CPU and COP 05.37.43 # 5.5 generation 05.38.11 # Shawn_K: for what purpose? mpegplayer or just audio playback? 05.38.28 # lostlogic: speed and eifficiency 05.38.35 # During audio playback, the audio thread itself needs more than the base speed, meanwhile when audio isn't playing the UI can run just fine at base speed. 05.38.35 # during what operation? 05.38.44 # Llorean: codec thread 05.38.55 # Llorean: audio thread is file buffer and only needs CPU when filling buffer 05.38.58 # lostlogic: I was in the middle of typing my correction to myself. :) 05.39.01 # :) 05.39.02 # i thought i had done something wrong so numerous times i restored it in itunes and then completely redid the "mod"....everytime giving me the same results... 05.39.28 # Shawn_K: the codec thread uses at least 90% of all cpu cycles when playing music so it's codec on one core everything else on another. 05.39.31 # If you have one thread >30, and sum of all others <30, it's pretty clear that thread needs to live on its own 05.39.41 # Shawn_K: until / unless we split the DSP or some other operations out of the codec thread 05.39.53 # and to answer your question earlier...i use databases....i have rockbox auto grab it every restart with my cache enabled so it can check for deleted files also... 05.40.06 # lostlogic: I moved the scroll into the COP and it seems to have helped 05.40.18 # what arch are the nanos? 05.40.22 # and it pulls the database from the music i threw on my ipod...using umm xplay 05.40.23 # Shawn_K: scroll on cop with codec as well? 05.40.31 # lostlogic: yes 05.40.45 # votetrev: it dosnt seem to be showing up on here either 05.40.50 # id say that the theme is broken 05.40.56 # Shawn_K: Are you sure the scroll thread does what you think it does? 05.40.57 # ok goodddd :) 05.41.01 # lol makes me a little happier 05.41.05 # I also had the backlight on COP, then it didn't go off....I later realized too many variables were linked to share the ram 05.41.20 # try escapepod and tell me if it works 05.41.24 # what theme did u say u use? or do u have somewhere u get your themes from you could hook me up with? 05.41.27 # Scroll thread is just for scrolling text horizontally isn't it? 05.41.28 # Shawn_K: Because on the iRivers, the thread named "scroll" in the OS Stacks screen refers to the one that handles text scrolling in WPS, I believe. 05.41.34 # Llorean: It manages menus, doesn't it? 05.41.36 # Shawn_K: are you running codec on cop my way where it pretty much doesn't yield? 05.41.37 # safetydan: I'm almost certain, yes. 05.41.49 # Shawn_K: scroll is the thread that moves text back and forth when it doesn't fit on the screen. 05.41.54 # http://rockbox-themes.org/ i use escapepod 05.42.02 # er yeah, which is what Llorean said 05.42.16 # i switched back and the id3 tags are showing again 05.42.34 # I was pretty sure I went into the /firmware/arm/ipod for the scroll 05.42.44 # ok lemme grab it and check it out quick 05.42.49 # I was tired though....so maybe not 05.42.59 # scroll thread will do the same thing regardless of target 05.43.03 # I should dbl-check what I write when I'm tired 05.43.11 # Shawn_K: one possible reason that moving more threads to the cop would help your performance is that scheduling overhead is getting in your way, in which case we need to have a careful look at all the threads we're running and whether or not we need them. 05.43.17 Join Jsunu [0] (n=Jsunu@d154-20-129-186.bchsia.telus.net) 05.43.42 # Shawn_K: do you run with or without priority scheduling? I run without, because I don't feel that the extra scheduling overhead is justified 05.44.14 # (anyone want to write an O(1) priority scheduler for rockbox based loosely on the linux kernel one?) 05.44.16 # lostlogic: I believe I have it on, how do I turn it off? 05.44.28 # Shawn_K: undefine HAVE_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING in the appropriate header file 05.44.44 # lostlogic: this is my third day working w/ rockbox, lol 05.44.52 # Shawn_K: I can tell -- read lots of code. 05.44.55 # and I've had very little time 05.45.17 # alexing: escape pod or escape pod aa 05.45.28 # escape pod 05.45.32 # k 05.45.58 # some help here... I just installed Rockbox on my Sansa e260 and upon booting it gives me "Loading Rockbox..." "Rockbox error: -1" 05.46.45 Part debauched_sloth 05.46.51 # lavid: That means you didn't extract rockbox.zip to it 05.47.09 # Llorean: thanks... I'm a winner ;) 05.47.38 # lostlogic & Llorean: lmao, it was the wrong scrolling code 05.47.41 # I just looked 05.47.44 # anyways, I g2g 05.47.48 # c ya guys later ^^ 05.47.52 Quit Shawn_K () 05.48.55 # hmm... maybe O(1) priority scheduling isn't possible with cooperative multitasking. 05.49.44 Quit Vyrus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.50.01 Quit funky ("leaving") 05.51.55 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 05.53.40 # shit i did a complete reinstall of the newest build from scratch to be safe....then installed the theme....but now it has to rebuild my database so itll be a few minutes 05.53.48 # it looks like its working so far though...??? :):) 05.53.58 # sweet 05.54.12 # u know of any other themes that have worked for ya? 05.54.21 # most of the other ones 05.54.31 # just every once in awhile theres a broken theme 05.54.58 # ok sweet....now that i have one working (hopefully) i will at least know it works...that way i can go experiment through and try what i like 05.55.32 # true dat 05.55.52 # have do you have your ipod setup? with the bootloader from rockbox and just dual boot between that and the regular apple ok 05.55.59 # os* 05.56.16 # yep 05.56.22 # regular for video 05.56.34 # yeh same here as long as i get rockbox workin :) 05.56.49 # do u use the database in rockbox? 05.56.58 # mainly use rockbox for games :] 05.57.02 # yep 05.57.11 # ok sweet 05.57.20 # u ever messed with gettin ipl on it? 05.57.39 # ipl? 05.57.51 # IPodLinux 05.58.12 # na, like i said before this isnt my ipod 05.58.19 # yeh... 05.58.25 # my friend gives me money to do all the techincal work for him 05.58.29 # take this to PMs please....this channel is about rockbox 05.58.38 # sorry 05.58.43 # sorry scorche...my bad 05.59.07 # alexinc...u added any extra games in rockbox? 05.59.14 # like pacman or doom? 05.59.23 # just gameboy games 05.59.38 # yeah? can u do it with like nes? 05.59.47 # not ported yet 05.59.51 # shit that would probly be way to hard though huh 05.59.57 # even trying to play them 06.00.21 # damn it takes a long time to load the database huh 06.00.26 # i dont know how well games play on the ipod, i have a gigabeat myself that i play GB and GBC games on 06.00.46 # oh sweet 06.00.50 # does rockbox run on that then to? 06.01.21 # yep 06.01.29 # and its more powerful than the ipods :] 06.01.39 # so iv been playing around with ports for nes 06.01.44 # nothing succsesful yet though 06.01.50 # thats sweet 06.02.07 # i wasnt sure if i wanted to go with the ipod but i got one for xmas right before i was gonna buy one so i was still quite happy 06.02.22 # nice 06.10.10 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 06.10.54 Part Llorean 06.13.01 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 06.13.27 Quit myzar|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.19.38 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.20.06 Join _hhehw [0] (i=spike@administration.mediwana.org) 06.20.21 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 06.20.22 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.21.20 Join decayedcell [0] (i=3ba74943@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-40835da2be45425b) 06.23.06 Join cynicalliberal [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-7-158-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 06.23.06 Quit Alonea ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 06.24.02 Quit hhehw ("changing servers") 06.30.04 Quit decayedcell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.32.07 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 06.32.09 Part gotthardt 06.32.17 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@c-71-56-149-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.33.54 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 06.38.26 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.39.09 Join JoeXBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 06.41.50 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 06.41.51 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.44.52 Join JoePBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-1-110.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 06.45.28 Quit JoeyBorn (Nick collision from services.) 06.45.35 Nick JoePBorn is now known as JoeyBorn (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-1-110.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 06.49.44 Join hcs [0] (n=hcs@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 06.51.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14B09.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.51.31 Quit gotthardt ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 06.53.01 Join decayedcell [0] (i=3ba74943@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a47a302dbb8a674f) 06.55.32 Join SouLja^ [0] (i=TD1_SouL@CPE00112f1c894c-CM00080d413484.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.55.53 # can someone help me with a problem i have? 06.58.21 # ask away 06.58.24 # Only if you tell us what that problem is. 06.59.38 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.00.55 Quit JoeXBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.04.30 # i dont think soulja likes you guys... 07.06.08 # If he's like me, he's timed out... 07.06.23 # * Mouser_X needs to figure out how to fix the poor connection... 07.06.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.19 # wireless? 07.08.26 # sorry, ill keep on topic 07.08.27 # :] 07.08.52 Quit JoeyBorn ("really got to run this time") 07.09.15 # lol sry 07.09.19 # i was trying to get it fixed myself 07.09.22 # but i suck 07.09.36 # i got owned :( 07.09.37 # We noticed. (j/k) 07.10.00 # i tried installing rockbox on my gigabeat 07.10.08 # toshiba gigabeat f40 07.10.08 # Cool. 07.10.10 # and when it came to the bootloader 07.10.16 # I'll be getting one of those soon... 07.10.32 # i added a .dat to the bootloader cause i tried before and it wouldnt work 07.10.42 # wellthen after turning the battery off it finalyl worked 07.10.51 # but then the .dat made the file unreadable to the system 07.11.05 # now when i turn on my gigabeat i get a screen saying 07.11.12 # NO SYSTEM FOUND ON HDD 07.11.15 # ..help? 07.12.38 # It looks like those who are most familiar with the Gigabeat aren't online right now. 07.12.48 # Or, they're not at their computer. 07.12.52 Join bagawk_ [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 07.12.55 # :( 07.13.48 # All I know, is that there's currently no "official build" of the bootloader. At least, there wasn't last I saw. 07.14.00 Quit bagawk (Nick collision from services.) 07.14.01 # hey 07.14.03 # im familor 07.14.03 # In other words, if my understanding is correct, you need to build it yourself. 07.14.10 Nick bagawk_ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 07.14.11 # *familiar 07.14.22 # did you replace the bootloader? 07.14.34 # no i used the one off the site 07.14.48 # did you extract the .rockbox file to it? 07.14.57 # the main problem is 07.14.58 # i can fix it 07.15.04 # but when i plug in my gigabeat into my computer 07.15.10 # windows doesnt recognize it 07.15.12 # anymore 07.15.23 # umm 07.15.51 # i dont remember the trick but theres a trick that you can like unplug yourharddrive then turn on your gigabeat or somethign then plug it in and it works 07.15.56 # but dont follow those steps 07.16.02 # cause i never knew it 07.16.15 # so then what should i do? 07.16.16 # go to #gigabeat and ask the question, you should get an answer in a few hours 07.16.21 # oh ok 07.16.24 # i'll try that 07.17.02 # if i change the extension you think it will work? 07.17.09 # i mean 07.17.15 # it was already a .dat file 07.17.20 # and i added .dat after it 07.17.23 # Don't go to #Gigabeat 07.17.31 # ok.. 07.17.44 # This is the Rockbox on Gigabeat channel now, and that channel is supposed to be closing down. 07.18.00 # then what should i do? 07.18.02 # SouLja^: What *exactly* did you do, your statements are fairly vague. 07.18.42 # ok 07.18.47 # i installed all the gigabeat files properly 07.18.48 # EXCEPT 07.18.54 # the bootloader 07.19.02 # i used the bootloader off the site 07.19.14 # but i renamed it..so there is NO bootloader 07.19.27 # for the gigabeat to turn on 07.19.51 Quit CpuWhiz (Remote closed the connection) 07.20.02 # the original is still there 07.20.06 # and so is the one for rockbox 07.20.14 # i added a .dat to the rockbox bootloader.. 07.20.41 # good enough? 07.20.55 # So, you didn't follow the instructions explicitly, okay. 07.21.08 # Unfortunately, I don't know the recovery mode for the Gigabeat. 07.21.30 # I *believe* it involves plugging in USB while the battery is disconnected, as someone else said, but I'm not certain 07.22.03 Quit mathgl ("Quitte") 07.22.07 # Yeah, i messed up on that one part 07.22.17 # so if i were to do that method, go into the directory 07.22.21 # and change the filename 07.22.22 # will it work? 07.22.49 # Make sure the files are named exactly as the official instructions say they should be. 07.22.51 # thats why i said to ask in the gigabeat channel 07.22.58 # its a gigabeat specific question 07.23.02 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.23.06 # its only that one file thats renamed 07.23.19 # Yes. After you rename it, you put the one you download in the place of it. 07.23.23 # and that isnt a recovery mode ;] 07.23.24 # As the instructions say. 07.23.31 # that dosnt do anything 07.24.02 # Alexinc: we have told you many times what we are doing....stop making it an issue 07.24.04 # alrite..so looks like im going to have to open up my gigabeat 07.24.18 # Alexinc: It's also a Rockbox install question. The #Gigabeat channel existed for development discussion since they felt it would flood this channel, it was unnecessary but they did it. #Gigabeat is closing to recenter Rockbox discussion. 07.24.42 # And, like I said, I think that's a good idea. 07.24.45 # It makes sense. 07.24.50 # but still, he cant get onto his gigabeat in the first place 07.25.08 # Alexinc: Yes, and it's because he installed Rockbox improperly 07.25.08 # yeah..windows wont recognize it when i plug it in 07.25.17 Join tychver [0] (n=tychver@202-154-146-239.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) 07.25.19 # windows wont recognize it as a drive 07.25.23 # when i plug it in 07.25.23 # Alexinc: If the gigabeat Rockboxers were in here, they'd be able to answer his question. 07.25.34 # yep, and they arnt 07.25.35 # :] 07.25.40 # Alexinc: Look at #Gigabeat's topic. 07.25.57 # they arent in #gigabeat either....they are in here...just not active 07.26.23 # If they aren't, it's because they either haven't bothered to read it, or are just being obstinate like you. 07.26.27 # and if he asks ther and leaves it then a afk rockboxer will be able to see it at a later time and answer it cause its not a failry active channel 07.26.36 Quit hotwire_ ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 07.26.37 # but in here it will most likely be spammed off 07.26.48 # sorry 07.26.51 # just proving my point 07.26.51 # People answer questions in here all the time. 07.26.51 # Alexinc: Or he could post it in the Installation support forums where there's a guarantee it won't vanish 07.26.59 # Also, I read the logs. 07.27.04 # Like many people do. 07.27.13 Join BobJonkman [0] (n=John@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) 07.27.18 # ok so..what should i do about my problem? 07.27.18 # Alexinc: You've "proved" nothing. :) 07.27.20 # open it up? 07.27.28 # and do the "trick" 07.27.34 # SouLja^: Wait until someone who actually owns a gigabeat and knows the answer can help you. 07.27.41 # k 07.27.48 # It's really a bad idea to not follow the instructions exactly. 07.27.52 # I think you can unseat the battery without opening anything. 07.27.59 # how would i do that? 07.28.05 # lol i was turning it on and off and on and off 07.28.12 # but it wouldnt load up rockbox 07.28.13 # I think there's a switch on the bottom. 07.28.16 # so i assumed i had to add a .dat 07.28.22 # i added that 07.28.31 # then read that i had to turn the battery on and off 07.28.35 # i did that...then this problem came up 07.28.36 # it has something to do with the harddrive as well...but wait for a person familiar with the gigabeat to tell you the whole procedure 07.29.08 # SouLja^: So, you didn't follow the instructions at all... 07.29.22 # Once you've unseated the battery, then try plugging the Gigabeat into your PC through USB (without reseating the battery) and see what happens. Please note, this is purely speculation, as I have no Gigabeat (yet). 07.29.55 # actually Llorean, that instruction was on a totally different page on the rockbox site 07.29.59 # i had to go searching around for it 07.30.56 # SouLja^: The instructions on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort tell you EXACTLY where to put the .dat file. 07.31.01 # You said you put it in the rockbox folder. 07.31.02 # OMG LOL! MOUSER X 07.31.07 # I DID IT WITHOUT THE DOCK 07.31.15 # AND IT UFKCING RECONGNIZED IT 07.31.16 # OMFG LOL! 07.31.20 # Hmmm? 07.31.22 # <3<3<3<3 07.31.23 # !!! 07.31.26 # So, what happened? 07.31.27 # IT FINALLY RECOGNZIED IT 07.31.30 # now i can chhange the file 07.31.32 # lemme try that 07.31.38 # less caps and swearing please... 07.31.54 # lol, you where using the dock 07.31.59 # rockbox dosnt support the dock 07.31.59 # sorry 07.32.02 # yes i was using the dock 07.32.04 # omg lol... 07.32.07 # Yes, English, please... I don't know what happened. 07.32.10 # TRYING NOW 07.32.19 # ANDDD 07.32.20 # IT WORKS 07.32.21 # Alexinc: laughing at people doesnt help 07.32.44 # weird though 07.32.48 # the font on it is real small... 07.33.01 # You can change the font, and the theme. 07.33.12 # Though, you might need to install more fonts. 07.33.19 # (I don't have the link for that) 07.33.30 # Mouser_X: The fonts are just at the daily build page 07.33.41 # Oh. 07.33.57 # Not having a portable player yet, I've done very little browsing on the site. 07.35.05 # alexinc....u there? 07.35.50 # Probably. Give him a minute. 07.35.55 # Or more... 07.36.03 # anyone in here familiar with rockbox on a 5.5g video ipod? got a pretty simple question 07.36.28 # votetrev: then ask it 07.36.28 # ok thanks mouser :) 07.37.28 # well i loaded up rockbox on my ipod and had it working but was having problems with the theme correctly loading....now i think i got it but it is taking a TREMENDOUS amount of time to load the database it is pulling from itunes 07.38.01 # i was wonderding if anyone could give me approximate time on how long it can take to load its database 07.38.58 # Whenever i go in to play music it says.....database is not ready 07.39.12 # have you initialized it? 07.39.21 Join TFGBD [0] (n=TFGBD@c-69-253-232-198.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 07.39.23 # http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-DREAMEO-MEDIA-PLAYER-with-GPS-NAVIGATION_W0QQitemZ120071229117QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4668QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 07.39.42 # Spam? 07.39.52 # No 07.40.05 # Just an interesting PDA/PMP/"GPS" 07.40.16 # Gotta love how it says "built-in GPS" when its a CF card ;P 07.40.23 # thought so...but im trying again incase i happened to forget...i have been going through reinstalls over and over :) 07.40.33 # how long should i expect it to take if i have say 20 gigz on it? 07.40.43 # not that long 07.41.02 # say....10 minutes? 07.41.03 # It would be nice to have a Windows CE version of Rockbox to run on that thing.. No? :P 07.41.34 # go into Info > Debug Menu > Tagcache Info and tell me what it says 07.41.37 # Rockbox is a firmware. 07.41.47 # votetrev, have you tried rebooting? 07.41.50 # There's low likelihood of a Windows CE version of it happening. 07.41.50 # TFGBD: ah...i was trying to remember why your name looked familiar... 07.41.54 # yes ive tried rebooting 07.42.14 # Haha. :P 07.42.16 # Yeah, I know. 07.42.25 # ok scorche here goes....initialized: yes 07.42.37 # db ready: no 07.42.37 # But it should be possible considering it was ported to Win32? 07.42.37 # ram cache: no 07.42.41 # ram 0/0 B 07.42.59 # progress: -1% (1594 entries) 07.43.01 # Well.. There are also the CE based PMCs too. 07.43.04 # commit step: 0 07.43.04 # TFGBD: A lot of things are possible. Someone who wants it has to be the one to do it. Right now, you're the only person on Earth known to want Rockbox on CE. 07.43.07 # commit delayed: yes 07.43.26 # TFGBD: it wasnt ported to Win32....that is just a simulator 07.43.35 # Same difference. ;P 07.43.40 # not really 07.43.41 # I'm talking the simulator on CE. 07.44.13 # Sounds like it would be good enough for most and no additional computing functionality would be lost. 07.44.24 Quit BobJonkma1 (Connection timed out) 07.44.27 # I'm sure there are more than me... I don't really want it as I do not even listed to music... 07.44.32 # I guess I want it for others. :P 07.44.36 # * TFGBD is crazy, I suppose. 07.44.50 # scorche: did any of that help u? 07.45.11 # Would you be interested in the response I get at various Windows CE and CE related device forums I know of? 07.45.57 # No 07.46.03 # It doesn't matter how many people want it. 07.46.10 # It matters whether the people who want it go and do it. 07.46.12 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 07.46.15 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.46.20 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.46.22 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.46.28 # votetrev: you should try to reboot it again, if disk is no longer active. And cleanly reboot it 07.46.45 # don't reset it 07.46.49 # * Llorean is apparently not getting a Gigabeat today. 07.47.04 # Was it to be A CE based Gigabeat? :) 07.47.07 # No 07.47.14 # It was to be a Rockbox based Gigabeat. 07.47.22 # so cleanly reboot it you mean.....hold menu and the select button down till it reboots? 07.47.27 # no 07.47.28 # you can get windows ce on gigabeat/ 07.47.33 # hold the play/pause button 07.47.35 # Yeah, I know. Perhaps the folks that could do it just never thought of it/were not aware of the sim.. 07.47.36 # Alexinc: Later Gigabeats (S) run CE. 07.47.38 # Alexinc: gigabeat S 07.47.41 # :( 07.47.41 # votetrev: no, that is reset 07.47.57 # Just the runnign Windows Mobile for Portable Media Center, I supposed.. 07.47.59 # suppose( 07.48.00 # TFGBD: Then go talk to them in the CE forums, and tell people interested in DEVELOPING it to come here. But don't send a bunch of people to pester us into doing it. 07.48.09 # Oh, I would not. 07.48.35 # running* 07.48.50 # If someone were to, would be be happy? 07.49.12 # you folks* 07.49.25 # I think Rockbox running on the Gigabeat S, in any form, would be neato. 07.49.33 # Rockbox is designed as a firmware, but as long as the changes didn't hamper its ability to be that, I doubt anyone would mine too much if a port of the sim were made for CE. 07.49.37 # Or the Zune? 07.49.42 # As such, I say invite CE people here, to port the thing. 07.49.44 Part safetydan 07.49.47 # And on Creative Zen portable Media Center, etc? 07.50.00 # TFGBD: You don't need to list several CE targets, we get the point 07.50.08 # Yes, I CE. ;P 07.50.14 # Yes, and it's getting annoying. 07.50.18 # And the various other No name PMCs and PMPs and PNAs and PDA and HPCs! 07.50.33 # we are quite happy that rockbox continues to grow =) 07.50.35 # Leave your evangelism behind, this is #Rockbox and it's for the discussion of Rockbox things. 07.50.36 # And TVs and HD-DVD Players and POS terminals! 07.50.39 # And THin clients! 07.50.44 # Rockbox is a firmware, so its goal will to ALWAYS be to replace the existing firmware. 07.50.44 # Ok...enough. :P 07.50.55 # The ultimate goal is NOT to exist alongside CE, but to replace it on which players it can. 07.50.56 # That being the case, I think we wouldn't mind if it got ported, in some way or another, to other players. 07.50.58 # oh it says committing database...but then it said error commiting playlist....or something similar to that 07.51.02 # But that would blow. 07.51.07 # It would limit the device. 07.51.08 # Back to SouLja, I GOT IT OWRKING WOOO ROCKBOX PWNS 07.51.10 # 1 problem though... 07.51.13 # all the songs i added 07.51.17 # however songs show up now :) 07.51.18 # dont show up LOL 07.51.25 # songs dont show up for me though LOL! 07.51.42 # SouLja^: We got it the first time you said it. How did you "add" them? 07.51.43 # SouLja^: Could you be more specific? 07.51.44 # votetrev: i would recommend deleting .rockbox and installing it again 07.51.57 # i added them through gigabeatroom 07.52.10 # well before when i would go to my music the songs would show 07.52.11 # TFGBD: Rockbox is a firmware...not a program 07.52.15 # now that i go there with roxbox 07.52.15 # votetrev: and skanning the filesystem for errors. It might be in unknown state if you have often reseted the device 07.52.19 # none of the songs are there 07.52.22 # slasher: even if the songs show up now: 07.52.24 # Its a program on Win32 and Linux 07.52.32 # SouLja^: Rockbox is a filetree browser. Do you know what folder they're in? 07.52.36 # ok...yeh i do the reset sometimes to get to the apple os to watch my movies 07.52.38 # if it works fine, then do nothing 07.52.42 # that isnt Rockbox...that is a SIMULATOR....for the last tim 07.52.44 # TFGBD: The simulator is a program. The core project is a firmware. 07.52.44 # e 07.52.51 # THen a Hacked CE firmware with Rockbox would seem just as much like a "firmware" I suppose... 07.52.59 # No, it wouldn't 07.53.08 # To the untrained eye. 07.53.12 # they are in the "my music" folder 07.53.17 # * scorche gives up 07.53.51 # SouLja^: Your music files are in the "My Music" folder on your Gigabeat? 07.53.51 # TFGBD: Look, quit evangelizing CE. Port the simulator, or don't. But Rockbox itself will ALWAYS have the goal of being a firmware, not an application on top of another firmware. That's why it's different from iPodLinux. 07.53.52 # But of course it would be silly to limit it to just a firmware replacement for CE and be much more useful if it could run on CE systems that are open to 3rd party software... 07.54.02 # yes mouser, they are 07.54.07 # I understand that. I'm not questioning that. 07.54.11 # Yes, you are. 07.54.20 # That's why you just called the goal of replacing CE stupid. 07.54.27 # Or rather "silly" 07.54.28 # Well...not stupid... 07.54.29 # so guys....if i want to switch over to the apple os...what is the safest way? or do i have to do a reset 07.54.32 # Hurtful... 07.54.38 # SouLja^: And when you browse to them with Rockbox, you can't see them? 07.54.39 # votetrev: see the FAQ 07.54.42 # It would make me cry to see CE die. :/ 07.54.48 # oh sod off 07.54.51 # CE sucks 07.54.53 # rockbox rocks 07.54.55 # TFGBD: Rockbox is for people who want a streamlined music device without unnecessary OS overhead. 07.55.03 # But it does not support Video. 07.55.08 # thegeek: we dont need to turn this into more of a flame war 07.55.11 # yes it does 07.55.11 # no mouser i cannot see them 07.55.16 # TFGBD: Rockbox implemented properly will get better battery life and performance than Rockbox +CE overhead. 07.55.22 # Rockbox does in fact support video. 07.55.26 # scorche: imho he's already on fire 07.55.28 # Sure...but then... NO OPERA! 07.55.30 # ;P 07.55.38 # Or...at least dual booting.. 07.55.40 # jesus christ;) 07.55.42 # TFGBD: DIGITAL AUDIO PLAYER. 07.55.47 # And Rockbox always tries to allow dual booting 07.55.53 # TFGBD: stop it now...at this point you are looking very much like a troll 07.56.04 # a big ugly one too 07.56.07 # SouLja^: Can you see the music files in Window's browser (if you're using Windows, in Explorer)? 07.56.15 # Ok. Sorry.. 07.56.15 # yes i can 07.56.23 # I'm jsut bored and feel like talking of CE... 07.56.30 # then do it somewhere else 07.56.34 # SouLja^: What are the file properties on some of your music? 07.56.35 # where it is in-topic 07.56.40 # s/in/on 07.56.41 # umm k lemme get 07.56.45 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 07.56.49 # ummmm how do u start up an ipod? 07.56.59 # votetrev: press menu or select 07.57.07 # wont fuckin start all of a sudden 07.57.17 # 2nd warning on the language 07.57.29 # oh sorry! didnt see the first warning either btw 07.57.36 # i apologize bigtime 07.57.49 # what file defines how the Sansa's LCD gets written? What is the source file? 07.58.38 # ok the file properties are 07.58.43 # the filename firstly of course 07.58.49 # type of file: SAT file 07.58.56 # opens with GBroom.exe 07.59.01 # Ah, that's most likely your problem. 07.59.03 # location n:/my music 07.59.05 # They're SAT files. 07.59.08 # size 07.59.10 # blah blah blah 07.59.20 # attributes only archive is checked 07.59.26 # I'm pretty sure that Rockbox can't play SAT files. 07.59.34 # ohhh 07.59.36 # it cant 07.59.38 # OHHHH yes it cant 07.59.41 # but when uadd files 07.59.44 # with Gigabeat room 07.59.45 # man rockbox rocks ice :) 07.59.47 # they're all .sat 08.00.08 # with rockbox, you dont have to use gigabeat room 08.00.09 # Someone said there's a way to revert them back to MP3, but as far as I saw, they didn't say how. 08.00.29 # In other words, they're stuck as SAT for now. 08.00.32 # oohhh..well i ahve all the files and i know where they are 08.00.40 # if i wanted to add them again 08.00.43 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h162n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 08.00.47 # You'll probably have to put them on the Gigabeat again. 08.00.51 # oh ok 08.00.52 # scorche: shut the fuck up. he's not a troll. 08.00.53 # thats not much of a problem 08.00.54 # thanks 08.01.07 # haha 08.01.15 # qwm: i thought you were banned =P 08.01.19 # qwm: You missed the discussion, and shouldn't be swearing at scorche. 08.01.20 # new ip. 08.01.27 # ah 08.01.33 # Guys I can't thank you enough for your help, the ipod skin looks real nice btw lol 08.01.36 # (Or anyone, for that matter.) 08.01.43 # Mouser_X: there are public logs you know. 08.01.49 # updated every friggin' second. 08.01.54 # Ah. 08.01.58 # i'm the worst kind of lurker. 08.02.00 # I forgot about those. 08.02.03 # I never check them. 08.02.13 # and i don't shave my balls as well as Bagder does. 08.02.33 # The fact that you shave them at all is a little disturbing. 08.02.49 # Though, not as disturbing as the fact that you somehow seem to know that badger shaves his... 08.03.12 # Ok..now on that though... 08.03.16 # Methinks I should leave... 08.03.23 # Do you help each other do it, or something? 08.03.25 # Mouser_X: are you from the 1940s? 08.03.35 # Mouser_X: must you lurk on the topic? 08.03.41 # Sorry. 08.03.44 # * bagawk puts up a sign saying "do not feed the trolls" 08.03.48 # * Mouser_X shuts up. 08.03.59 # * TFGBD slaps bagawk around a bit with a large trout 08.04.07 Nick TFGBD is now known as TFGBD_AWZ (n=TFGBD@c-69-253-232-198.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 08.04.27 # TFGBD_AWZ: the lake called, they're running out of large trouts! 08.04.42 # only medium and small sized left, for your slapping pleasure. 08.05.23 # qwm: Please, go find somewherer to spew crap, no one really cares to see it here 08.06.01 # diddystar? 08.06.05 # you cocksucking whore. 08.06.59 # what file defines how the Sansa's LCD gets written? What is the source file? 08.07.12 # What would happen if i tried to add a video file larger than 25 mb 08.07.16 # and attempt to play it 08.07.35 # It would only play as far as that bit of the file was loaded into RAM. 08.07.43 # oh 08.07.48 # so basically 08.07.52 # impossible to play more than 25 mb? 08.07.55 # Once it reached the end of the buffer, it crashes. 08.07.58 # qwm: what? where are you getting this? 08.08.08 # lol 08.08.11 # so dont even try right 08.08.11 # ? 08.08.16 # You can. 08.08.21 # but no poit 08.08.24 # point 08.08.26 # I don't know how bad the crash is. 08.08.28 # yeah 08.08.29 # lavid: firmware\target\arm\sandisk\sansa-e200\lcd-e200.c I'd guess 08.08.30 # im not going to test it 08.08.32 # :) 08.08.35 # btw i got the music working 08.08.37 # :D:D 08.08.38 # <3 08.08.42 # Llorean: thanks 08.08.44 # I don't think it's so bad that it forces a restart, but I'm not sure. 08.08.51 # the battery life is pretty bad though 08.08.52 # bagawk: IrcNicks? stupid. 08.09.30 # SouLja^: Hmmm? I've heard the opposite. The battery life (when not using the equalizer) is at least 10 hours. 08.09.35 # At least, that's what I heard. 08.09.41 # I suppose it might have changed. 08.09.49 # qwm: that name is not listed there 08.10.05 # Well, im using a toshiba gigabeat which is supposed to have a 16 hour battery life 08.10.10 # and it went down pretty fast 08.10.12 # well 08.10.12 # If you have rockbox setup EXACTLY how you like it....what should be backed up so that you can restore it incase you would need to restore your ipod 08.10.16 # we'llhave to see 08.10.25 # bagawk: "bagawk (formely dstar5) Lee Pilgrim" 08.10.52 # Llorean: when you load rockbox on your e2x0, do you see like a row or 2 of jumbled display on the top? 08.11.10 # bagawk: forgotten about your trolling in #vegan? 08.11.15 # you and that s0cks 08.11.22 # lavid: Not last time I did it, it's been a week at least since I did it though 08.11.25 # SouLja^: I've heard that the way they're checking the battery level is unreliable. It drops quickly, then sits at the same level for hours. 08.11.42 # votetrev: Just have it write a config file, and make sure to backup your themes. 08.12.01 # qwm: never trolled sir. 08.12.02 # Llorean: I'm thinking the offset is "off" a little 08.12.05 # ok thanks llorean :) 08.12.11 Part TFGBD_AWZ 08.12.13 # lavid: It wasn't for me, previously. 08.12.27 # bagawk: Just put him on ignore. Please stop directing comments at him. 08.12.41 # if i found a theme i realllllly like...but the font is to small....can i change that? 08.12.58 # hmm im trying to load a 21 mb video and its taking forever to buffer.. 08.13.08 # bagawk: "ok" 08.13.34 # votetrev: Yes, but you may have to adjust the theme itself to handle the larger font. 08.13.46 # SouLja^: The mpeg player is not entirely reliable yet 08.13.54 # llorean: is that fairly easy? 08.14.51 # votetrev: Depends on what you think "hard" is. 08.15.02 # I'd consider it exceptionally easy, but you may disagree. 08.16.00 # well its been buffering for a good 4 mins 08.16.12 # im gonna assume that its frozen and it wont work 08.16.18 # SouLja^: It's not gonna work then, probably 08.16.28 # agh cant even power off 08.16.34 # now the question 08.16.45 # wait or turn the battery on and off? 08.16.54 # Battery, probably 08.17.44 # lol...i turned the battery off and its still on 08.17.50 # time to let the battery run out? 08.17.59 # bagawk: why did you steal midkay's settings saving code? 08.18.02 # nvm 08.18.03 # Is it plugged into the USB, or something? 08.18.04 # cause the charger was in 08.18.08 # Ah. 08.18.11 # lol 08.18.22 # I thought it might be something like that. 08.19.13 Join toffe [0] (n=toffe@71.142.12.59) 08.20.19 # what type of vidoes does it support? 08.20.22 # .mpg? 08.20.45 # Yes, MPG is all right now. Also, it has to be 44khz audio. 08.20.48 # (I think) 08.21.11 # mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 video with MP3 audio at 44khz 08.21.16 # And I'm also pretty sure it has to be the resolution of your screen. 08.21.53 # ok got it :) 08.21.57 # gotta remember that 08.22.57 # Mouser_X: Nah. 08.23.06 # It can be smaller, but the dimensions have to be a multiple of 16 08.23.18 # Oh. 08.23.47 # I'll keep that in mind, myself, for future referance (I may want to watch some episodes of Ducktales, when it supports rebuffering). 08.24.14 Join clyde [0] (i=clyde@host-64-234-27-209.nctv.com) 08.25.01 # bagawk: you're guilty of grand theft code. :( 08.25.10 # and please, talk here instead of query. 08.25.27 # you're too low to deserve your own window. 08.25.45 # btw, do you shave your butt? i prefer smooth butts over hairy ones. 08.26.22 # llorean: is it just a simple editing of a file? 08.26.28 # Yup 08.26.33 # See the CustomWPS wiki page 08.26.37 # ok awesome 08.26.44 # you guys are a great help in here. thanks!!! 08.27.18 # Glad to help, where I'm able. 08.27.27 # (If I helped at all, that is.) 08.28.25 # if i have playlists on the appleos side....will rockbox's database builder also pull those playlists over? 08.28.35 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 08.29.01 # If you use the right one, I think it does... 08.29.03 # I'm not sure. 08.29.09 # And I don't have a link on hand. 08.29.58 # ok...thats fine :) 08.30.08 # i can always test it out right :) 08.30.12 # votetrev: The database builder JUST finds songs. 08.30.15 # bagawk: be a man and answer me. 08.30.31 # votetrev: There is a patch that can add a feature to scan for playlists, though 08.30.36 # Mouser_X votetrev Llorean 08.30.39 # can you guys shut up? 08.30.41 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 08.30.41 # oh sweeeet!!!! 08.30.43 # we're in the middle of something here. 08.30.50 # praise the lord. 08.30.50 # who the hell is this qwm guy? 08.30.52 Kick (#rockbox qwm :can i answer you in his place?) by scorche!n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche 08.31.16 # llorean: happen to have a link ot that patch? And what exactly involves in "patching" 08.31.31 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 08.31.38 # votetrev: Patching is probably "not easy" you have to be able to compile 08.31.42 # The patch is also probably out of date 08.31.49 # So you'll need to do some basic C to get it running again 08.32.18 # just building it in as using gcc? 08.32.30 # or on a linux end anyways 08.33.00 # yeh i dont know C very well just very very basic... 08.33.23 # probably not a good idea for me to try to get to deep :).....so probably easiest just to make them right inside of rockbox? 08.33.27 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h162n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 08.33.32 # sorry guys, didn't mean to misbehave like that. 08.33.39 # don't know what got into me! 08.33.43 Part qwm 08.34.12 # votetrev: Yeah, Rockbox works fine for creating your own 08.34.25 # arite sweet.....ill just have to take a little time to make some :) 08.34.35 Nick nuge_ is now known as nuge (n=ideas@d206-116-182-64.bchsia.telus.net) 08.34.38 # Rockbox also works fine with .m3u and .m3u8 playlists 08.34.54 # So if you point Winamp or Foobar at the songs on your player, you can save those playlists to be usable by Rockbox 08.34.54 # Oooh. 08.34.57 # That's very handy. 08.35.16 # .m3u playlists are what i use 08.35.19 # I'll definatly be using that feature. 08.35.38 # OMG Thanks so much guys for the video 08.35.40 # i got it working 08.35.43 # it cut off half way though 08.35.44 # whats foobar? 08.35.48 # im guessing since it was too large 08.35.52 # Foobar2k. 08.35.57 # Im probably going to have to split the videos 08.35.58 # It's a media player. 08.36.01 # into parts 08.36.16 # SouLja^: Just wait for the plugin to be finished. 08.36.56 # I use Winamp, but I've dabbled in foobar2k a little. I liked Winamp a lot more. Basically, to me, foobar2k seems to be a media player for developers, and Winamp seems to be a media player for users. 08.37.24 Quit clyde () 08.38.01 # foobar takes forever to get setup the way you want, but then it's pretty nice 08.38.06 # but still, takes too long 08.38.09 # winamp just works. :) 08.38.33 Quit toffe ("MegaIRC v3.27 http://ironfist.at.tut.by") 08.38.47 # Heh. 08.39.41 # As for Rockbox, I haven't tried it yet. Hopefully it's as userfriendly (or, close) as Winamp is... 08.39.51 # Either way, Foobar/Winamp merits are off topic. :-P 08.40.08 # (I tried to talk about Rockbox in my last sentance...) 08.40.19 # Hehehe 08.40.27 # Rockbox is probably going to be "Too much to set up" for you then. 08.40.37 # :( 08.40.41 # I'll get help with it. 08.40.44 # It's a very sparse, text-based interface with a lot of options. 08.40.47 # We do have a full manual though 08.41.09 # Chances are I'll break something before I read the manual... 08.41.11 # :P 08.41.26 # Though, once that happens, I'll probably check the manual... 08.41.35 # I'm still amazed nobody has yet bricked their player by willingly not reading the directions. 08.41.43 # lol 08.41.47 # People have tried, really hard though, fortunately always on hardware that's nearly impossible to brick. 08.42.18 # Well, my PC is still up and running, so that's a good sign (I wouldn't say I'm very nice to the thing). 08.42.37 # In other words, chances are that if I break it, I'll at least be able to figure out how to unbreak it... 08.42.49 # Or, get it semi-working again. 08.43.29 # with doom...once i get a wad 08.43.33 # where exactly do i place it? 08.44.13 # That's been asked before. I *think* it goes in the root... Or, in the ".rockbox" directory. 08.44.30 # Though, that's going off of memory. I don't actually know. 08.44.35 Join lamed [0] (i=590053d1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ca69bdef648391f9) 08.44.58 # ok... 08.45.14 # i thought i read somewhere F:/games/doom 08.45.18 # but i wasnt sure 08.45.23 # could be. 08.45.26 # F: being whatever your ipod is 08.45.28 # I don't know. 08.45.33 # ima check it out now... 08.45.33 # /games/doom, yes 08.45.34 # :P Sorry. 08.45.39 # i just gotta see what this is like on the ipod 08.45.41 # votetrev: Please, read the manual. 08.45.46 # Many of these things are covered in it 08.46.00 # ok sorry :) 08.46.08 # i just like to confirm i understand right 08.47.03 # hello everyone 08.47.14 # Take note: I added plenty of disclaimers informing you that my information (for Doom, at least) was not reliable. 08.47.23 # Sorry I was wrong. 08.47.38 # Howdy lamed. 08.51.04 # I'm trying to figure out why players that I connect to my h340 won't go into usb mode: I just find out that the usbotg female part does not carry the 5 volts throught the pins. I am using the Korean version. do you think that there was some hardware made different between the US and international players - as this could not be a software issue. 08.52.29 # * Mouser_X fails to see how this is Rockbox related... 08.52.49 # Unless, the h340 port has USB hosting stuff/support. 08.53.18 # Either way though, I have no ideas/answers for you. 08.53.20 # Sorry. 08.55.26 # ok....installing in /.rockbox/games/doom putting in the required wod then the freedoom doom2.wad it says that there is no wad files 08.55.39 # mouser_x: one can easily assume someone would know if there was any hardware differences between those versions. 08.56.57 # lamed: Actually, my understanding was only the US version of the hardware didn't provide power to the USBOTG port 08.56.59 # nm got it :) 08.59.17 Quit SouLja^ () 09.00.00 # Llorean: and since I have no way of telling what version am i having, I guess I am really having the us ver. do you happend to know if it is a hardware limitation? 09.00.15 Quit matsl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.00.22 # Yes, it is. 09.01.41 # is anyone up to making a option that can flip the display sideways for us gigabeat users? 09.02.26 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.02.31 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 09.03.04 Join UpsioneD [0] (n=rezo@82.67.68.29) 09.03.11 # ahhhm. so rb supporting usbotg wouldn't help me on that matter. :/ 10x liorean for the help. 09.03.48 # I do believe you can fix it, though, if you're up for hardware mods. 09.03.57 # There was talk of it at misticriver, don't ask me where though, I saw it ages ago 09.04.33 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 09.05.20 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 09.06.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.07.37 # votetrev, wrong dir, please read carefully 09.09.37 # hello, i ve got a recorderv1 with my new 160go, i created a 127go partiton and a 25 second but this one is empty from rockbow and windows says some erors from copy 09.10.38 # you have to connect the drive into the computer directly 09.11.44 # I created two partition without archos 09.12.20 # is there any way to set mencoder to create multiple smaller files? 09.12.22 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.12.26 # any developer here? 09.12.32 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 09.12.34 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.12.37 # UpsioneD: you have to load the files that way too 09.13.13 # on the last partition at least 09.13.56 # There is some file on, copy with archos will never work? 09.14.21 # copy on rockboc, sorry. 09.14.23 # on the last partition, it wont 09.14.31 # ok 09.14.45 Quit kaaloo ("Leaving.") 09.15.04 # it is a hardware issue where it cannot address the higher sectors 09.15.08 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 09.15.54 # allright thank you 09.16.26 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.16.26 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 09.17.12 Quit _Veseliq_ ("www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com") 09.20.48 Quit hcs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.22.15 # Llorean: 10x 09.22.26 # cya all... i'm going kiteboarding! 09.22.29 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 09.23.03 # hmm, I can confirm thar gigabeat built from today's cvs randomply speeds up song may x1.5 09.23.37 # and some noises appears too 09.24.26 # vadim: "Today's CVS" or "The most recent CVS"? 09.24.36 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 09.25.51 # yes, the head 09.26.22 # i mean I did cvs up and compile 09.28.08 # Just making sure, as I think a recentish gigabeat change was supposed to affect that, and so a compile from "Today" might not have included that depending on what time today it was made 09.29.35 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@c-71-56-149-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 09.29.47 # just updated again, no changes. So i'm "current" at the moment 09.31.00 Join RedZZR [0] (n=chatzill@81-86-2-113.dsl.pipex.com) 09.31.02 # do you still get a speedup with new build? 09.38.20 Quit takeda` ("Peer reset by connection") 09.42.06 # gotthardt, my last update was may be a week ago so it is the first time today when i experienced speedup. Another notice: I did not experienced it with flac but quite often with mp3. 09.42.13 # Hi to the #gigabeat crew :) 09.42.34 # is that from the latest ? 09.42.47 # sloth thought he fixed it 09.42.48 # still no consistency. it played mp3 for couple hours, and then almost every song speeds up in the middle 09.43.01 # ok - he will want to know 09.43.35 # yes, i recall talks about speedup but experience it for the first time 09.44.06 # does it sound like the same song just faster? 09.46.43 # Do all the file i copy with no rockbox way will appear wheras windows wrote when I plug my archox? 09.48.04 Quit decayedcell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.48.26 Join Boffin [0] (n=chatzill@host86-136-91-242.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 09.50.41 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 09.50.50 Quit UpsioneD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.52.38 Join decayedcell [0] (i=3ba74943@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8e242ef04f5bdf46) 09.56.36 Join UpsioneD [0] (n=rezo@82.67.68.29) 09.59.42 # gotthardt, yes, the song is playing correct but faster 09.59.51 # ok - thasks 09.59.56 # thanks 10.00.31 Part gotthardt ("never never land") 10.03.40 Quit vadim (Remote closed the connection) 10.06.01 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 10.08.14 Quit jba (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.09.52 Quit suckacracka ("Leaving") 10.11.17 Join GodEaterWeb [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dcc309598dd10942) 10.11.21 Quit Everybody| (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.12.16 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.14.05 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@cor4-ppp4595.bri.dsl.connect.net.au) 10.17.46 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.20.00 Quit cynicalliberal ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]") 10.23.10 Quit Jsunu ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 10.23.53 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@84.Red-217-125-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 10.24.42 Quit Everybody|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.25.00 Join webguest18 [0] (i=45e8685d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2ebe0a32cbc43c9) 10.25.22 Join bluebrother [0] (i=Etkt2aQd@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.25.55 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 10.27.01 Join Drkepilogue [0] (i=456fc2e3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ca55c210c4661193) 10.28.00 Join EvilDude [0] (n=prashant@CPE-60-227-89-93.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 10.28.40 Quit webguest18 (Client Quit) 10.32.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host14-229-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.32.40 Part BobJonkman 10.33.14 Part Llorean 10.35.21 Join fleytin [0] (n=user@ppp91-76-112-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 10.35.41 # Hello. 10.37.05 Join softi-42 [0] (n=softi@p549D6A88.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.37.21 # I would like to recompile my rockbox with low latency mode for the sound setting menu while playing disabled. Where shall I comment it out? 10.37.22 Quit softi_42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.41.57 Quit decayedcell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.43.14 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 10.44.31 # low latency mode? Never heared of that 10.44.58 # bluebrother, the pcm buffer can be switched to a low latency so mode so that things like equalizer settings changes are audible sooner 10.45.30 # ah. But "while playing disabled"? 10.45.57 # not sure about that bit 10.46.03 # fleytin, look for calls to pcmbuf_set_low_latency 10.46.35 # I am a blind user and just want my sound setting menu spoken while playing. 10.46.40 # ah 10.46.43 # hrm 10.47.10 # fleytin, try commenting out lines 809 and 816 of apps/sound_menu.c 10.47.20 Quit tychver ("Leaving") 10.47.46 # safetydan: Thanks! I'll give it a shot! 10.48.25 # fleytin, no worries, just be aware that changes made to sound settings while playing will take a little while to be audible 10.48.44 # though volume and other hardware based settings will be instant 10.51.51 # Low latency mode disables voice? 10.52.06 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.52.28 # amiconn, I wouldn't have thought so, but fleytin seems to think it might 10.53.14 # amiconn: At least on iaudio x5. I heard that on iriver it works with no problem. 10.53.17 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 10.54.22 # safetydan: Did you mean fragments like this: 10.54.22 # #if CONFIG_CODEC == SWCODEC 10.54.22 # pcmbuf_set_low_latency(true); 10.54.22 DBUG Enqueued KICK fleytin 10.54.22 # #endif 10.54.26 # 10.54.34 # fleytin, yes 10.56.19 Quit combrains (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.00.52 # Slasheri: Are you aware of the dircache stkov problems people have been reporting? 11.03.44 # fleytin: That doesn't make sense. It should work the same on all swcodec targets 11.03.58 # Another mysterious problem... :/ 11.05.44 # amiconn: Just recompilled. Will try in a moment. 11.06.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.59 Join combrains [0] (n=combrain@222-155-27-181.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 11.09.59 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.13.41 # amiconn: It works now! 11.18.35 # linuxstb: nope, i havent had time to check the bug tracker recently. Do you know if it's enough to increase the stack size? 11.18.44 # safetydan: Thanks again for a tip! 11.18.53 # fleytin, no problem 11.19.00 # Slasheri: I don't think it's on the patch tracker, just Mistic River.... 11.19.01 # Now to find out what's really going on 11.19.11 # ah.. i will check that 11.19.34 # Slasheri: Plus Genre9mp3 has mentioned it in here. I suggested that he increased the stack size for the dircache thread, and that appears to be enough to fix it. 11.20.04 # hmm, then that fix should probably be committed 11.20.19 # but i have no idea yet why it runs out of stack size.. 11.20.23 # need to check the code 11.20.43 # at least the dir recursion shouldn't cause that 11.20.49 # Also, is there a reason you define the size in terms of DEFAULT_STACK_SIZE + x ? 11.21.00 # Instead of just 'x" ? 11.21.22 # no, that was from old times when i didn't knew exactly how the threading worked 11.22.34 # for dir recursion, functions inside dircache are never called recursively.. 11.22.42 # so something else must cause that 11.24.19 Quit combrains ("Rockbox Rocks :)") 11.29.59 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 11.31.17 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0195.fh-trier.de) 11.33.24 Join Angry [0] (n=Miranda@dslb-084-056-131-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.33.58 # Slasheri: hello. I had couple questions myself: 1) Why align audiobuf when it's aligned in buffer_init and kept aligned by buffer_alloc? 2) Does anything cause dircache to mess with the audio buffer after audio initialization? If so it should obtain the buffer with a function call first. 11.35.28 # 1) earlier buffer_alloc was not used and buffer was not aligned, so this has changed lately and i see no reason for that now 11.36.19 # heelo i ve got an new 160go on my recorder V1 i copied without archose on the second partition but on rockbox, it' empty 11.36.34 # Slasheri: and 2) ???? <- very important to know :) 11.36.37 # 2) After init_dircache() in main.c, dircache buffer size or location should not change. If it does, it's a bug in dircache 11.39.52 Join webguest99 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8ae374b62e9924ed) 11.40.31 # C experts here? I need help with http://pastebin.com/851687 11.40.51 # Would there be much value in getting the user timer working in the sim? 11.42.46 # Or should the field declaration be const char * const name? I'll try that out. 11.43.21 # preglow: around? wondering if you could suggest ways of getting rid of the beating (spurs?) in DDS. I would like arbitrary frequency generation. Phase dithering sounds kinda bad for low sample rates if I did it right. Without anything it sounds exactly the same as CoolEdit's waveform generator (not so good always). 11.44.02 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.44.15 # dds? 11.44.26 # webguest99: my_object isn't a pointer while my_type expects a pointer 11.44.34 # as fas as I can see from a quick look 11.44.43 # safetydan: Direct Digital Synthesis 11.44.56 # UpsioneD: maybe you can find some more information here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=BigDisk 11.45.12 Part fleytin ("ERC Version 5.1.4 (IRC client for Emacs)") 11.45.18 # jhMikeS, right, well out of my area of knowledge then :) 11.46.24 # bluebrother: item.string is initialised with my_object.name, which is a char pointer 11.47.03 # jhMikeS, is the test_sampr.c plugin supposed to compile? Is just trying to compile it before but it seems to expect more in the plugin structure than is currently supported by CVS 11.47.44 # hmm. 11.47.49 Join Mikachu [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 11.49.12 # I guess I should finish this hw-stuff I'm working on first :o 11.52.11 # safetydan: It should. All the functions are in the plugin API. 11.52.48 # Is it for a sim? I think I have some stuff removed there. 11.52.59 # jhMikeS, yeah for the sim 11.53.24 # which probably explains it 11.53.31 # I should have thought about it a bit first 11.53.48 Join trypt0 [0] (n=trypt0@ip68-8-222-147.sd.sd.cox.net) 11.54.16 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 11.57.28 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@host16-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it) 11.58.10 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 12.00.26 Quit kubiix ("Miranda IM! 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Stil no ideas about http://pastebin.com/851687? 12.42.59 Quit UpsioneD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.44.06 Quit spiorf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.45.48 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host14-229-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.48.05 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967385.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.49.51 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 12.57.45 # webguest99: yeah, that won't go over too well. 12.58.24 Join krz [0] (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 12.58.35 Join debauched_sloth [0] (n=debauche@c-24-63-72-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 13.02.28 Quit krz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.03.26 # jhMikeS: what do you mean? Should I declare name as const char * const name? I can't try now, unfortunately. 13.05.56 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 13.06.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.07.01 # Bagder: looks like that new Sansa firmware has a new key. mi4code seems to be able to scan for the right key though 13.07.07 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.07.52 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 13.12.23 # Barry could i ask you for a litlle help ^^ 13.13.07 # yes. just ask 13.15.10 # Ok, i am learning C now and i think i could cope to optimize the H10 Pad with the smoothing suggestions in the tracker. The only thing i really need (and didnt get it) is to get access to the adc_read() function in a plugin which i would like to use as a sandbox... Is this very complicated. I need to know the data value of the scrollpad 13.16.16 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp48-62.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.16.38 Join UpsioneD [0] (n=rezo@82.67.68.29) 13.17.29 # you probably need to look in plugin.c/plugin.h 13.18.22 # to make it available over the plugin_api 13.18.30 # Hey i had some problems with my 160Go recorder v1: the second partiton must be a logic. Now all workd perfecly. I'm trying to compile? Thanks You... 13.19.13 Part webguest99 13.19.39 # Angry: yes, just add adc_read() to the end up the struct plugin_api 13.19.56 # although you're probably better using adc_scan() than adc_read() 13.19.56 # and #include adc.h at the top 13.20.03 # "adc.h" 13.20.49 # adc_scan() always gives the latest value. adc_read() only gives a value that is updated every tick (1/100th of a second) 13.21.38 # i think it should be #include "adc-target.h" 13.21.42 # so i will procede with adc_scan 13.21.46 # for adc_scan() 13.22.56 # Ok i'lll try that... Thx^^ 13.23.18 Join mkis5 [0] (n=mkis55@pool-68-160-192-225.ny325.east.verizon.net) 13.23.26 # sup all 13.23.35 # let me know if you get stuck with it. it would be really great to have more stable adc values 13.24.20 Quit decayedcell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.24.27 # i will... ^^ 13.24.31 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 13.24.49 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.26.19 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 13.26.51 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 13.28.05 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 13.28.14 Join iR0x [0] (i=5743add3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5b7406a089451662) 13.28.36 # Can anyone help me with a little pointer problem? 13.28.37 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=8020.0 13.29.39 # you can't return pointers allocated on the stack 13.30.18 # you probably don't want dynamic allocation in rockbox anyway 13.30.19 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0177.fh-trier.de) 13.30.41 # hello all 13.30.55 # you already said that 13.33.22 # and no one responded 13.33.35 # i think thats pretty rude 13.33.44 Quit iR0x ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.34.06 # webguest99: could probably use a direct character array and the address of any element you like. That should work since I do it in other places with other types. 13.34.13 # then you must not come into support channels that often 13.34.19 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 13.35.07 # actually i don't sorry guys i was just being friendly 13.35.14 # state'ing that im alive 13.35.25 # well done mr powers 13.36.16 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 13.36.16 # * jhMikeS witholds a good deal of his rudeness and still sounds jerky and opinionated :P 13.37.05 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848EDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.37.15 # whats everyone doing up so early 13.37.36 # Living in different timezones... 13.37.56 # linuxstb: nice work on mpegplayer :) 13.38.14 # Mikachu: Thanks. Haven't seen you here for a while. 13.38.17 # kinda figured that... just making convo 13.38.46 Quit Genre9mp3 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.38.59 # linuxstb: i got only 2 or 3 seconds desync on a 3 minute video, but sometimes the sound was a bit garbled 13.40.17 # Mikachu: Does the video ever fail to start? 13.40.34 # i only tried once so far 13.40.43 # * jhMikeS wishes he could test the mpeg player but Cowon seems to be taking their time on repairing the x5 (right?) this time. 13.40.44 # I've working on AV sync at the moment.... It's working quite well, but mpegplayer is still a little unstable for me (on my ipod Color). 13.40.46 Join iR0x [0] (i=5743add3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d2a0d335f4ee2538) 13.41.05 # Back...I had lost internet :p 13.41.06 # well, twice, i forgot to make the height multiple of 16 because i used the command on the wiki 13.41.18 # 13:29:38 you can't return pointers allocated on the stack 13.41.21 # 13:30:18 you probably don't want dynamic allocation in rockbox anyway 13.41.49 # any body no of anysites i could buy a ipod video logic board 13.42.35 # linuxstb: is it random with the same video or some are flakier than others? 13.42.56 # actually it did sort of crash or something when i tried to enable the frame limiter 13.43.30 # The main problem I'm looking at at the moment is that the video never starts to display. 13.43.40 # It doesn't seem related to which video I'm playing. 13.43.48 # Just threading issues I think. 13.43.52 # does it stay black and hang? 13.44.09 # The CVS version will keep saying "buffering..." forever. 13.44.22 # it might be what happened when i tried to return from the menu... 13.44.38 # My version is much better than CVS, but it's still not perfect... 13.44.56 # you're supposed to commit every time you make a change :) 13.45.51 # The build servers would never stop if we all did that. 13.46.16 # i guess taht's true 13.46.53 # But as soon as I feel it's stable again, I'll commit. 13.47.37 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.47.47 # i got about 28 fps without the limiter but only 21 with, the target is 23.97, iirc 13.48.11 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0177.fh-trier.de) 13.48.15 # (that was 176x96 video though) 13.48.55 # ah that res is in the table 13.49.25 # i'll just check again to be sure it was 28 13.51.48 # it seems to stabilize at 29.6 actually 13.51.48 # i'll put in 29 13.53.11 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! 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(refering to xorg.conf) And all that within a bash script 15.28.10 # yes, well, with sed at least, but it is not a topic for #rockbox 15.29.09 # that's true. just thought here might might be people knoing about it (I'm a bit afraid of going to #bash ;) ) 15.29.24 # I'll look at sed than. thanks 15.29.31 Quit UpsioneD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.32.42 # any comments on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6505 ? 15.34.21 Quit petur ("drink time :)") 15.36.21 # Nico_P: what do mean by "slider bitmap"? 15.36.39 # a bitmap that moves, like a slider, i guess? 15.36.47 # Mikachu: that's it 15.37.24 # could you have the progressbar for playback and the slider for seeking? :) 15.37.57 # so the aim is to have a single little bitmap that moves across the display instead of a growing progress bitmap? 15.38.11 # Mikachu: that would be possible but it's not the same patch anymore 15.38.19 # Arathis: yes 15.38.49 # cool, it'd make the winamp skin clones more accurate :) 15.43.04 # I myself wouldn't use it a lot because I prefer the normal progressbar, but as hcs said there are people just waiting for such a patch. 15.43.51 Nick Everybody|Determ is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 15.46.05 Join mathgl [0] (n=mathgl@shm67-4-82-242-213-244.fbx.proxad.net) 15.48.41 # I'm continually amazed by how many people care about such details on the display. I thought the point was to listen to the music - not watch the screen of your DAP while you're doing it :) 15.49.33 # * amiconn fully agrees 15.50.11 # i still use the wps i made in 5 minutes as a test last year 15.50.41 # GodEaterWeb: It's for artistic freedom ;) 15.50.47 # I don't really care either but I saw the request on the forum and I thought it was a good idea and not too hard to do 15.50.49 # whereas I use the default without the peakmeters, but it's still nice to have cool pretty things 15.57.14 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 15.58.18 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730190a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d3e41ebe45e48936) 16.01.26 # Slasheri: tagcache bug for you :) ...http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6501 16.01.42 # errr...database 16.08.27 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@c-71-56-149-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 16.08.27 # any reason there needs to be both an integer and a string value for "year" metadata? Seems the integer year just requires unnecessary string>int>string conversions. 16.10.47 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|BRB (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 16.13.00 Quit funky ("leaving") 16.14.50 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.20.40 Join neutralrobotboy [0] (n=nrb@177.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) 16.20.42 Part neutralrobotboy 16.21.39 Nick Everybody|BRB is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 16.21.55 # lowlight: the integer year is trivial to store, and requires less space so database uses it 16.21.57 Join Kingsqueak [0] (n=who@c-68-38-166-84.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 16.22.07 # that ogg year strings needs to be converted to integer somehow.. 16.22.33 # it's a problem with the metadata parser 16.22.46 Join jdb1941 [0] (n=jdb1941@68-69-63-125.kntnny.adelphia.net) 16.23.33 # ah, it seems that metadata parser doesn't even try to parse it for ogg metadata 16.24.20 # in this case ogg format is bad because it doesn't have strict format for tags 16.26.11 # I thought it was DATE in vorbis comments, not year... 16.26.27 # at least i can't think of why somebody would want a non-numeric year 16.26.35 # hmm, that's correct in fact.. 16.26.56 # The Year of Our Lord Two-Thousand and Seven 16.26.58 # so it is even more complex to parse than that 16.27.05 # Plus my only .m4a file has a date field with something like "2004-07-01 00:00.00" 16.27.08 # dates can be almost in any format :/ 16.31.35 # I don't think id3v2.4 has a strict year tag anymore either 16.33.34 # they use a "timestamp" format 16.34.43 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932463.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.37.49 Join tj2master [0] (i=a@85.106.243.56) 16.38.47 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 16.38.49 Join perl|work [0] (n=jacquesc@static-64-61-105-170.isp.broadviewnet.net) 16.38.57 # goffa test 1 2 3 16.39.07 Quit GodEaterWeb ("CGI:IRC") 16.39.30 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p54848B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.40.37 # perl|work: i'm here 16.42.01 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-24-26-150-197.columbus.res.rr.com) 16.42.13 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.42.19 # is anyone up to coding an option so you can flip the screen sideways for us gigabeat users 16.44.08 # Alexinc: no 16.44.20 # i talked to amiconn about it and it wouldn't be worth it 16.44.58 # would take a LOT of code to implement, and you'd have to alter the way wps screens are handed 16.45.01 # handled 16.48.51 # you would then have to use the ipod 5g wps 16.49.41 # could you not have two directories - one portrait wps - the other landscape 16.49.51 # or even two sub dirs 16.50.30 # personally i never used landscape mode on my player 16.50.52 # Its quite nice when undocked - but no use when its docked... 16.51.11 # RedZZR: it would still need a lot of changes 16.51.19 Quit fasmaie ("Remember the... the... uhh.....") 16.51.22 Quit barrywardell_ () 16.51.26 # quite a few - I don't disagree 16.52.25 # btw is there an issue with album art patch that alters the WPS screen abit? we're getting it on gigabeat 16.52.46 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.53.02 # the album art patch is unofficial 16.53.02 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 16.54.57 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.54.58 Quit strabes (Remote closed the connection) 16.55.29 Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-19-84.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.55.52 Quit GreyFoux (Client Quit) 16.57.12 Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-19-84.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.57.32 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net) 16.58.04 # what is the tetrix plugin called? 16.58.19 # rockblox? 16.59.01 # i noticed yesterday pacman stopped working 16.59.01 Quit GreyFoux (Client Quit) 16.59.44 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.59.47 # rockblox has been updated to work, but the patch has not yet been commited to the CVS - 17.00.22 # on the Gigabeat that is... 17.00.39 # yep pacbox is still broken for gigabeat 17.01.11 # maybe the DMA updates have broken it. 17.01.35 # well can someone commit the patch? 17.01.44 # i really want some tetrix 17.02.09 # I've passed it on... just waiting for them to get the time to apply the patch and submit 17.02.12 Quit EvilDude () 17.02.18 # pacbox > rockblox 17.02.19 # :P 17.02.22 # ps. I added a highscore feature as well... 17.02.34 # i dont like mame that much 17.02.50 # pacbox is not mame based 17.02.55 # what is it 17.03.08 # it is from the pacman instructional emulator, iirc 17.04.06 # yes, the real deal 17.04.35 Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-19-84.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.05.30 # I was looking at the Block Diagram of the Gigabeat, noticed a 2Kbit I2c EEPROM in the dock, anybody know the device address of this, could it be used to store the last track played when docked etc... 17.06.07 Quit GreyFoux (Client Quit) 17.06.11 # I suppose this info could be stored in a file... 17.06.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.14 # you can always just press play again to resume the last played track 17.07.32 # RedZZR: did you post the tetrox (and/or) patches in the official rockbox patch tracker - so maybe another dev could look at it too... 17.08.07 # other patches I mean 17.08.30 # I just posted it to one of the gigabeat devs with commit privs... I could post it to the patch tracker... 17.08.46 # I'm at work at the moment, so don't have it with me. 17.10.47 Quit hcs () 17.12.26 # that would increase you chances... :) 17.12.33 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 17.12.36 # sweet 17.12.37 # thanks 17.12.41 # now, off to school 17.12.42 # bye 17.12.43 Part iStride 17.12.45 # emailed the rockblox patch to gotthardt: but I will try and put up a patch later 17.13.01 Join Angry [0] (n=Miranda@dslb-084-056-131-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.13.24 # off home now... bye 17.13.48 Quit RedZZR ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 17.14.49 # hmm ... does svn use $Id:$ tags? 17.15.09 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 17.15.23 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 17.15.36 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.17.44 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.20.04 Quit trypt0 ("Leaving") 17.27.13 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 17.27.17 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 17.29.02 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 17.31.29 Join debauched_sloth [0] (n=gwhite@216.183.191.85) 17.37.00 Part gotthardt ("to work") 17.37.45 # goffa: There is a slight chance for portrait/landscape flipping to become easier to implement with viewports, as viewports are already variable-sized display areas per definition 17.38.19 # bluebrother: seems so...http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.2/svn.advanced.props.html#svn.advanced.props.special.keywords 17.38.43 # It'd still require a second set of drawing functions (to be implemented in every lcd driver that shall support this kind of flipping) and the application layer must be aware of it as well 17.39.26 # maybe easier to make a separate landscape build and rolo it 17.39.57 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p54848B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.40.17 # lowlight: The general problem with roloing different builds would be the plugins 17.42.00 # ahh, yes 17.42.49 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 17.43.45 Quit jborn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.44.00 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@host16-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it) 17.50.05 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 17.50.19 Join RedZZR [0] (n=chatzill@84.13.72.92) 17.53.59 Quit zylche (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.55.18 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 17.56.10 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fa252.pool.einsundeins.de) 17.57.11 Join rkostynu [0] (n=chatzill@mail.alphair.mb.ca) 17.57.22 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 18.01.08 Part Angry 18.01.30 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody|Determ (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.03.54 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18.06.14 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 18.06.19 Join muesl [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 18.08.12 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-24-26-150-197.columbus.res.rr.com) 18.10.22 # is there someone there who knows the ATA driver? 18.12.29 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 18.13.59 Quit fasmaie ("Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?") 18.14.15 # debauched_sloth afternoon 18.15.38 # hello 18.15.48 Quit mako ("leaving") 18.18.38 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.19.10 # debauched_sloth _love_ the sound quality with the latest build 18.19.20 # great 18.19.27 # sped issue seems to be gone as well 18.19.34 # it's not 18.19.37 # looking at that now 18.19.45 # really? never happened to me this morning 18.19.50 # played same tracks for an hour 18.20.05 # and i was getting it every 2nd track last night 18.20.30 # just skipped once to the next track by itself 18.20.34 # battery life seems greatly improved don't have any hard numbers 18.20.37 # from the middle of a song 18.20.52 # yes, it's harder to get now 18.20.58 # battery life should be MUCH better 18.21.06 # but its still there? 18.22.05 # yes 18.22.14 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A956F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.22.20 # trying to figure it out now 18.22.27 # why went with the dimming btw? 18.22.37 # I don't understand 18.22.45 # since shut off improves it even more 18.22.54 # about backlight 18.22.58 # what target is this? 18.23.03 # oh. gotthardt needs to merge that 18.23.06 # gigabeat 18.23.09 # ah 18.23.14 # debauched_sloth aha 18.23.36 Join BobJonkman [0] (n=John@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) 18.23.52 # got to grab food, back in a bit 18.24.07 # i think that patch should use some define for the rockbox dir, and not hardcode /.rockbox ? 18.26.28 Part norbusan 18.27.40 Join DreamThief692 [0] (n=mathias@p54A8134C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.27.53 Nick DreamThief692 is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A8134C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.31.15 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 18.31.34 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.32.15 Join mako [0] (n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu) 18.34.28 Join GodEater [0] (i=bryan@host-83-146-15-75.bulldogdsl.com) 18.36.20 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-24-26-150-197.columbus.res.rr.com) 18.37.42 Quit fasmaie (Client Quit) 18.38.28 # heh... re. rockblox the "highscore box" would have to be prepared for all targets - and won't fit on most displays.... 18.39.25 # is it really necessary to display that on the playboard? 18.39.36 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 18.39.47 Quit kubiix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.40.39 # wouldn't a separate list be better as it is done some other plugins? 18.41.40 # the question would be directed to gotthardt nut he isn't here atm :/ 18.41.45 # *but 18.42.11 Quit DreamThief|off (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.40 Join ICE9 [0] (i=189fde8a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-374ca5429880e3cf) 18.42.58 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 18.42.59 Join gotthardt [0] (i=86868802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-d9dbfdd87db0d062) 18.42.59 Nick Everybody|Determ is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.43.00 # hi have a question installing rockbox on nano gen 1 18.43.22 # hmm 18.43.34 # which version should I install 18.43.35 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-24-26-150-197.columbus.res.rr.com) 18.43.53 # the daily build or current stable 18.44.07 # and is the stable only for archos ? 18.44.19 # the stable is only for archos 18.44.47 # It would not be too hard to enable the highscore without displaying it, or you could just make room for the highest score. 18.44.48 # so I have to d/l the daily build then right 18.45.44 # RedZZR: look at the screenshots here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockblox and tell me where the highscores could fit on let's say the Archos display... 18.47.03 Part tj2master 18.47.30 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 18.47.55 # and the patch causes warnings for all other targets - I guess it's because of the highscores... 18.47.57 # display high score in the main screen? 18.48.16 # preglow: look at the commited background.bmp 18.48.21 Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.48.48 Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p54987390.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.48.48 Part ICE9 18.48.58 # i don't see any (recently) commited bmp 18.49.35 Quit fasmaie ("Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?") 18.49.52 # apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/rockblox_background.240x320x16.bmp 1.1 18.50.56 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-24-26-150-197.columbus.res.rr.com) 18.50.59 # i don't see the point in that 18.52.25 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 18.52.42 # me too, that's why I asked 18.52.43 Quit soaaa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.53.10 # sorry for the warnings in the sim builds, forgot to add a #ifdef by the declarations 18.53.47 # Its a pity other screens are too small, but then the file will hold the highscore anyway... 18.54.45 Quit kaaloo ("Leaving.") 18.55.09 # why not make it a seperate list (screen) which you can enter by holding a key combo or something? 18.56.18 # you would also be able to use the gigabeat's screen better than what I imagine from looking at the background 18.56.45 # I was only implementing the gigabeat fixes really and notices there was lots of spare screen... 18.56.59 # but anybody else is welcome to mod it for other devices... 18.57.31 # I'll send the simple fix to gothardt: to remove the warnings in the sim builds 18.58.36 # gotthardt: your check for 128 pixels width (only) also disables rockblox for the 5/6GB H10s 19.00.38 # but only should affect the ifps 19.01.31 # pixelma: you are right - im working on the fix - the best would be just to so no tothe ifps 19.01.49 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 19.02.01 # debauched_sloth is fixing the warnings now for me 19.02.06 # I hope 19.02.12 # just that, though 19.02.13 Quit muesl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.02.47 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.02.57 # heh - the SOURCES in apps/plugins should have the line changed from lcd_width == 128 to !define (FILL IN IF) 19.03.25 # ? 19.04.08 # linuxstb: The mpg files I created at "12 FPS" are actually 24 FPS mpegs, with every-other-frame being a duplicate. Would it be possible to add a feature to the pluggin to recognize this type of file, and decode it at the 12FPS rate? 19.04.21 Join toffe [0] (n=toffe@adsl-70-235-224-170.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 19.04.32 # that would be clearer - sorry for the confusion... i gotta run 19.07.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.07.03 # Soap: I doubt it. The inter-frame dependencies would probably require decoding every frame anyway. 19.07.39 # Soap: We need to find an encoder that creates "real" 12fps files (even though it's outside the MPEG-2 spec). 19.08.02 # Did you have a problem with mencoder? 19.08.38 # I'll look into that both of those issues. My suspicion is that on the "doubled" 12FPS encodes the duplicate frame is a P frame which could be safely tossed. 19.09.15 # as that P frame would contain nothing more than "what he <-- said." 19.09.52 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 19.09.58 # anyone here familiar with the ATA driver? 19.10.01 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m204.net81-65-15.noos.fr) 19.10.04 # and the next P frame, the one with real deltas in it, would work just as well referencing N-2 as it would N-1 19.10.15 # debauched_sloth: Best to just ask the question... 19.10.42 # Soap: That all sounds a bit complicated compared to simply encoding the file to have 12fps... 19.10.57 # ok, 19.11.14 # linuxstb: oh, I agree, I'll look into alternate encoders. 19.11.21 # I am looking at copy_read_sectors, and I am not sure I understand multi_sectors 19.11.46 # if multi_sectors is the most sectors that can be requested at a time, it does not do that 19.12.05 # rather it requests all, then strobes the data (w/o any pause, really), in multi_sector chunks 19.12.07 # is this correct? 19.12.23 # also, assume we'll have to play with the nop/nop/nop sequence for the gigabeat 19.12.28 # Though, if my theory is correct, I might be able to write a simple Perl script to decimate out every other frame, and change the references. 19.13.38 # I'll be back in ten 19.13.39 # debauched_sloth: We do not want no C99variable declarations (i.e. mixed with code), see CONTRIBUTING 19.15.48 # debauched_sloth, gotthardt: is someone going to commit a fix for SOURCES too (regarding rockblox for H10)? 19.17.56 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 19.20.29 # amiconn: will do 19.21.49 # debauched_sloth: yes, the multi_sectors behaviour is correct 19.22.17 # ok, just checking 19.24.13 # one more question: at least here, I see a case where issuing a read for the same sectors again seems to fail, I think because BSY is being asserted and deasserted before wait_for_start_of_transfer() can catch them 19.24.37 # no, that can't be 19.25.03 # I'll look at this one some more and see if I can figure out why it is failing 19.26.20 # have fun :-) 19.26.20 # ah, I get it, the wait_for_start_of_transfer() picks up the subsequent chunk of the multi-sector transfer. Thanks. 19.26.30 # ah, yah, fun it will not be, I think 19.27.45 Join lavid [0] (n=lavid@c-24-13-228-86.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 19.28.36 # debauched_sloth: sent you a simple patch to fix the other builds of Rockblox. 19.29.29 # not sure who to tell this to but the mi4tool cannot decode the new beta sansa firmware 19.30.22 # debauched_sloth: think the email went to gothardt... its not easy with all the nicks... 19.30.24 # at least not with the decrypt function alone 19.30.28 # ok 19.30.39 # he should be back in a short while 19.30.56 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net) 19.31.25 # ahy h120 owners about? 19.31.41 # what changes to SOURCES are needed? I'm coming in later here 19.31.41 # how does one operate the reset button on the H120? 19.31.41 # lostlogic: yeah, i have one 19.31.51 # (I don't have one, but my mother does) 19.32.07 # lostlogic: you stick a pin in the bottom hole 19.32.22 # excuse the vulgarity of that... 19.32.37 # lavid: and it feels like a button push? 19.32.48 # lostlogic: it should 19.32.48 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932463.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.32.58 # lavid: any need to hold it or just a quick click? 19.33.07 # lostlogic: quick click 19.33.12 # lavid: 13.07.01 # Bagder: looks like that new Sansa firmware has a new key. mi4code seems to be able to scan for the right key though 19.33.35 # it just needed a #ifdef HIGH_SCORE_Y around the var decs in the init_rockblox func. 19.34.40 # lavid: ever heard of pressing the reset button not resetting the device? 19.34.53 # lostlogic: let's move this to PM 19.35.18 # debauched_sloth: SOURCES... I'll look into that - in short: the important thing is that now it only checks for "LCD_WIDTH != 128" disabling it correctly for the ifp - but incorrectly for the 5GB H10, too 19.36.38 # ah, thats what the talk was about C99 vars... I see its already been fixed by moving the decs.. 19.37.21 # lowlight: what keyfile did they use? 19.37.43 # ask barrywardell ;) 19.37.53 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 19.37.54 # * lavid grumbles 19.38.26 Quit midgey () 19.38.35 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 19.39.06 # thats one of the problems of multi target development, trying to make sure you don't break the other builds... next time I will do an extra build with another target just to check... 19.39.59 Join muesl [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 19.40.39 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.41.07 # lostlogic: I think people have broken the reset button before 19.41.39 Join Boffin_ [0] (n=chatzill@host86-136-91-242.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 19.44.11 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.45.53 Join bluebrother^ [0] (i=8JXF0ZL3@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.46.19 Join automan [0] (n=sabayonu@66.128.251.85) 19.48.44 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 19.49.54 # hmm, looks like the no-fading-on-low-power is intended ... 19.50.11 # in that case it should get documented somewhere 19.51.05 Quit lini (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.51.11 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 19.51.54 Quit Boffin_ ("Time for Tubby ByeBye") 19.54.40 Join Jsunu [0] (n=Jsunu@d154-20-129-186.bchsia.telus.net) 19.55.53 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 19.58.10 Quit Boffin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.59.32 Join tucoz [0] (i=50ca62ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-570997d7cc7205b2) 20.00.33 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 20.02.11 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.03.05 # Bagder: are you around? 20.03.06 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 20.03.08 # no fading on low power? isn't that counter intuitive? 20.03.34 # no, as fading needs more power 20.03.47 # ah... you'd think it'd use less 20.03.58 # at least when it's done by pwm like in the h100 20.04.10 # ok 20.04.13 Nick bluebrother^ is now known as bluebrother (i=8JXF0ZL3@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.06.15 # guess i don't care about fading on the h100 though 20.06.26 # bluebrother^: what do you think about the key-naming for the sansa? 20.06.46 # bluebrother: Fading doesn't need more power because it uses pwm. The point is that for flicker-free pwm _on coldfire_ the cpu clock must stay constant during the fade, and because we cannot force the clock low (then music might skip), we need to force it high, i.e. boosted 20.07.10 Quit tucoz ("CGI:IRC") 20.07.19 # This is because the timer depends on cpu clock, and the pll relock time isn't predictable 20.07.21 Join tucoz [0] (i=50ca62ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e33f600e22b93e66) 20.07.41 # that makes sense then 20.07.42 # amiconn, I was aware of that fact. Switching a LED on or off doesn't eat up power 20.07.44 # This problem doesn't exist on portalplayer, as the timer clock is independent of the cpu clock on pp 20.08.03 # but I simply wasn't that precise 20.08.17 # ah, nice to know. Wasn't aware this is different on PP 20.08.28 # tucoz, haven't looked closely yet 20.08.33 # I used the Submenu keyname because that is what the key is called (along with down) in the original manual 20.08.53 # and as i used play on the opposite key, as opposed to 'up' 20.09.21 # but that "Submenu" is really strange 20.09.41 # hmm, is there a dedicated stop button? Can't see one 20.09.49 Quit bun-bun () 20.10.01 # i know. but that is what that symbol is called 20.10.25 # what function does that button in Rockbox? Calling the main menu? 20.10.32 # I think so 20.10.33 # then we could simply call it "menu" 20.10.47 # "Submenu" sounds so ... weird. 20.10.55 # i think not. the power button has 'menu' written underneath it 20.11.11 # hehe. it does 20.11.37 # hmm. Really strange naming. 20.11.52 # that is. i think the only key we can call 'menu', is the power button. and that is called Power now. 20.11.53 # i've posted an updated version of blackjack to the tracker for all interested 20.11.55 # would be nice to have one and simply try out how Rockbox uses the buttons 20.11.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5664 20.12.19 # Yes. But I would like to hear what barrywardell and dan_a has to say about it. 20.12.20 # this version should work on all targets and has a manual section included 20.12.26 # amiconn, except the detailed explanation of course ;-) Thanks for clarifying 20.12.28 # yay :) 20.12.58 # LinusN: I've rewritten one of gl's patches (4783, the y-coord one)... would it be fit for inclusion in CVS ? 20.13.01 # The lack of threading etiquette on the user mailing list is getting to be unbearable. 20.13.03 # hehe ... a candidate for midkay? 20.13.26 # Nico_P, I guess not -- because of the planned viewports ... 20.13.27 Join bun-bun [0] (n=bun@unaffiliated/bun-bun) 20.13.54 # but those customized build guys will like it :) 20.14.33 # tucoz: did you find the new svg with the arrows on it - also I was pointed to the fact that the center is also a "Select" button and wasn't labelled before 20.14.43 # bluebrother: I hope nobody else answers that :p ... it's just one additional coordinate 20.15.30 # sure, but if it's additional code (which it surely is) which will get superfluous with viewports ... 20.16.12 # my opinion is this: 20.16.14 # pixelma: i didn't know there existed one with arrows :) I guess i did the current one in a bit of a rush. i think i'll wait with the next, until the button naming is settled 20.16.23 # there is already some superfluous code with the progressbar, and i'm not sure it's that superfluous unless we want to have a viewport dedicated for the pb 20.16.55 # since viewports isn't happening soon, i think we could apply quite a few of those wps patches in the meantime 20.17.08 # amiconn - You in the mood for some more ATA questions ? 20.17.28 # tucoz: you were off too fast the other day (it was just a matter of seconds - I stated it for the logs, right after you left - it's in the same place as the other was 20.18.08 # LinusN: that seems very wise to me 20.18.16 # unless someone is actually working on viewports 20.18.44 # amiconn says he has it in his head, but not more than that 20.19.09 # pixelma: ah. ok. i'll download it later on. 20.19.12 # oh, that's nice to hear. 20.19.15 # GodEater: anything i can help with? 20.19.20 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.19.33 # LinusN: possibly :) 20.19.34 # scrolling margins would surely be another great candidate 20.19.41 # I've just been doing some intensive googling for toshiba specs 20.20.11 # and it seems that at least some of their 1.8" drives interpret 021h as well as 020h as a PIO READ SECTOR command 20.20.22 # but according to the ATA specs - that's an obsolete command 20.20.43 # I'm wondering what the difference is 20.21.40 # and one other thing - which may be entirely irrelevant - but the ATA-7 spec doesn't appear to agree with itself on bit 13 of word 106 20.21.49 # in one place it says this indicated long physical sectors 20.21.54 # and in another it's long logical sectors 20.22.02 # I've no idea which is true 20.22.13 # LinusN: there was some talk about swapping the 80GB HD from the Ipod into a H300/H100 (?) or vice verso to see if it's only that - I thought you had both? 20.22.32 # pixelma: don't think it'd go - it uses a ZIF connector 20.22.41 # pixelma: yes i have both 20.22.50 # well... I just remembered the idea 20.24.01 # I think amiconn came up with that 20.24.25 # I'm toying with the idea of buying another ZIF 1.8" drive and seeing if it'll work in an 80GB ipod 20.24.56 # just not soon - Xmas was expensive :) 20.25.14 # hehe 20.25.27 # Swapping drives between an 80GB G5.5 and a 60GB G5 should be possible 20.25.42 # i'm thinking of connecting a logic analyzer 20.25.45 # I'm not blowing a load of money on a whole other ipod 20.25.52 # ok... misunderstood then 20.25.53 # I'd just get another dirve 20.26.11 # anyway - any thoughts on those ATA comments - or are they wholy irrelevant ? 20.26.24 # i don't have the ata spec here atm 20.26.36 # GodEater: Of course not... that should be done by someone who has both models, or can temporarily get hold of both 20.27.42 # * LinusN seems to have a mission 20.28.03 # hehe 20.28.55 # pixelma: so the space in the middle i a select button on the sansa? 20.29.21 # yes 20.29.51 # ok. thanks 20.30.07 # GodEater: ATA4 says READ SECTOR(S) is 20h or 21h, ATA5 and up say 21h is obsolete 20.30.32 # http://www.t13.org/Documents/UploadedDocuments/project/d1153r18-ATA-ATAPI-4.pdf 20.31.00 # page 154 20.31.48 Quit SaLoMoN (Remote closed the connection) 20.32.07 # amiconn : have a look here then http://www.psism.com/hdd1564.pdf 20.32.17 # I'm sure those drives have been used in previous ipods 20.33.40 # There's no reason why a newer drive shouldn't support those commands, the standard says they're obsolete, so it's not required that they work, but since the command codes are unused now... 20.33.54 # * GodEater wonders if it's worth trying them too 20.34.00 # Maybe toshiba & apple uses such a cheap trick after all? 20.34.56 # Hmm, READ MULTIPLE and WRITE MULTIPLE don't have such an alias 20.36.11 # also - I note there are two modes "LBA" and "CHS" on those drives 20.36.16 # is that of any relevance ? 20.36.43 # That's part of the ata standard 20.37.00 # (dropped in ata6 or ata7, don't remember) 20.37.14 # heh - but not necessarily by Toshiba 20.38.20 # Yes. Same reason as for the 21h and 31h commands 20.38.52 # They're obsolete, but it doesn't hurt to support them if they're not redefined. Better backwards compatibility 20.39.55 Part tucoz 20.40.32 # * GodEater notes some Toshiba specific commands in that document too 20.40.35 Join tj2master [0] (i=a@85.106.243.56) 20.40.56 # no indication of what they do though 20.41.31 # Hmm. Maybe the apple loader puts the disk to sleep? Did you try issuing a soft reset? 20.41.43 # (as hard reset isn't actually doing anything) 20.42.18 Join hamstu [0] (i=hamstu@bas1-montreal45-1177793211.dsl.bell.ca) 20.42.35 # soft resest gets called a few times already 20.42.41 # I've not bothered adding more calls to it 20.42.49 # ok 20.43.08 # that's why it takes a while for the "no partitions found" message to come up 20.43.19 # it's the perform_soft_reset()s waiting to come back 20.45.02 Join SaLoMoN [0] (n=SaLo@salooo.org) 20.49.38 Nick DreamThief is now known as DreamThief|off (n=mathias@p54A8134C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.54.14 Part hamstu 20.58.22 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 20.58.54 # RedZZR/other gigabeat-owners: wouldn't it be nicer to have a real huge rockblox like that... http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/rockblox_gigabeat.png? (a quick mockup though) - maybe the highscore list could fit there too (if soo desired) otherwise it should be on a different screen but I couldn't code that up :/ ) 20.59.54 # yes I agree, but I was just trying to get it going with the least changes. 21.00.13 # pixelma: sure - always open to improvements - today we are just glad it got added! 21.00.27 # maybe when I get some spare time... Rockbox is taking up quite a lot of my spare time - which I should be doing my photography.... 21.00.32 # ? - I think this would have needed less changes 21.00.54 # *lesser 21.01.02 # heh - we have learned: simple changes - aren't 21.01.29 # maybe... the sound bug is back on my unit at the moment... glitching and speeding up mid song... 21.01.41 # but thanks for pointing out the biggetr screen - that is nice 21.01.53 # does it speed up the rest of the song? 21.01.58 # this time it was a vbr mp3 file... 21.02.08 # does it go back to normal at the next song? 21.02.24 # yes, its all the way to the end... with 1min buffering and then its normal on the next song 21.02.49 # checking the next track 21.03.00 # does is sound like the song is actually faster? like it plays perfect but just at a faster speed? 21.03.20 # or does it sound like its playing everyother sample/chunk? 21.03.25 # like fastforward? 21.03.30 # no there are glitches and it speeds up and slows a little 21.03.38 # ah 21.03.46 # its not much faster - seems to be loosing some data 21.04.10 # maybe an over or under run condition on the fifo? 21.04.15 # thanks - i wanted to eliminate that the DAC was getting a different speed setting or a clock was shifting/changing 21.04.38 # gotthardt: I would be able to change it (back) - I just don't know what to do with the highscores... 21.04.43 # yes - we have some issues still with that... 21.04.47 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.180.41) 21.04.48 # sounds more like data being lost / corrupted 21.05.12 # pixelma: Whats the question - about rockblox? 21.06.46 # I could commit it with the other layout (like in the link) 21.07.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.07.18 # if I knew where to put the highscores... 21.07.22 # use a separate screen for high-scores? 21.07.40 # why not add an option for high scores on a menu screen? 21.07.53 # it could do with an intro menu anyway 21.08.10 Join webguest17 [0] (i=5873b21c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f55a508f77427b60) 21.08.29 # I would put it on a different screen too - but don't have enough coding skills to do so 21.08.41 # or alway show the hiscores on the intro screen? 21.08.46 # the display of highscores is disable if HIGH_SCORE_Y is not defined 21.09.02 # there is no intro screen yet - it starts right away 21.09.07 # oh 21.09.13 Quit rkostynu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.09.28 Join rkostynu [0] (n=chatzill@mail.alphair.mb.ca) 21.09.54 Nick DreamThief|off is now known as DreamThief (n=mathias@p54A8134C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.10.29 Join D0ug [0] (i=Doug@bas2-kingston08-1128671410.dsl.bell.ca) 21.10.35 # * gotthardt pulls out GB and plays rockblox 21.10.37 Quit muesl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.52 Join muesl [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 21.11.01 Nick muesl is now known as mueslii (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 21.11.52 # Is there any sort of effort going into making a gameboy plugin for the sansa rockbox? 21.12.52 # noone that i know of yet. it should be just a matter of writing a lcd driver 21.13.07 # and picking a keymap 21.13.19 Join tucoz [0] (i=50ca62ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e831635f4b65ca9) 21.13.42 # GB track skip just happend... 4:09 Tracklen - vbr mp3 not long into it - maybe 1:30m 21.13.42 # barrywardell: hi. what do you think about the sansa key names (for the manual)? 21.13.44 # RedZZR: I see what I can do (when you are fine with disabling it) 21.15.04 # tucoz: what are they currently? I don't see the sansa on the manual page 21.15.05 # pixelma: it would be nice to have it as an option - otherwise just post a patch to remove highscores - then people with GB who don't want highscore but big display can appy it 21.15.23 Quit tucoz (Client Quit) 21.15.30 Join tucoz [0] (i=50ca62ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a6665795dc6b6d6f) 21.15.46 # barrywardell: here are the names. http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/manual/platform/e200.tex?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup 21.16.07 # in the third block of text from the top 21.16.53 # and here is an image of the player, with some parts missing. http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/manual/rockbox_interface/images/e200-front.png?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup 21.16.55 # they seem good to me 21.17.15 # you are fine with Submenu as well? 21.17.22 # the image is great, but select and scroll are missing 21.17.25 # yep 21.17.39 # i'll add those tomorrow. 21.17.56 # yes, submenu is fine with me. the other option is down, which is a bit confusing given there's a scrollwheel 21.18.20 # right. then i think we should stick with it 21.18.46 # i like them anyway, unless dan_a or someone has suggestions for a better alternative 21.19.20 # good. i can ask him before i commit the updated stuff 21.20.19 Quit mathgl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.20.55 Join mathgl [0] (n=mathgl@shm67-4-82-242-213-244.fbx.proxad.net) 21.21.55 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.24.26 # tucoz: while, you're here. FS#6308 21.25.15 # barrywardell, did you the low power stuff on h100? 21.25.52 # the low power shutdown? it was a patch on the tracker that I committed 21.26.13 # tucoz: what do you think about that that suggestion? 21.26.16 Join CpuWhiz [0] (n=eric@cpe-66-87-222-218.co.sprintbbd.net) 21.26.32 # ah. i saw that earlier but didn't quite understand it. I wonder how we could refer to buttons by symbols 21.26.41 # as opposed to names 21.26.54 # do you remember who wrote that patch? Looks like it disables backlight fading when on low power 21.27.10 # and I feel that should get documented if it's intended 21.27.34 # tucoz, we could create our own font :) 21.27.43 # hehe. yes. we should :) 21.27.49 # the rockbox font 21.27.53 # Can somone direct me to a place where I could download some fonts? 21.28.04 # on the daily builds page 21.28.08 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox 21.28.09 # kk thanks 21.28.15 # has also a lot 21.28.25 # bluebrother: it was lostlogic that did most of the work. FS#3001 21.28.39 # I never created a font for LaTeX but it might be an interesting thing 21.28.52 # D0ug: the cvs-fonts are to be found on the daily builds. rasher has some other ones. 21.29.15 # kk would these fonts be compatible with the sansa e200? 21.29.18 # i think i'll leave font making to the pros 21.29.30 # D0ug: yes 21.29.35 # thank you 21.29.40 # barrywardell, thanks. 21.29.41 # at least, i assume they would 21.29.43 # tucoz: i don't think the suggestions in FS#6308 are any better than what we have already. so i think we should either leave them as are, or if possible use symbols instead 21.30.07 # bluebrother: disabling the fading is intended iirc 21.30.11 # maybe we could think about that one for a few days 21.30.26 # i haven't even considered symbols 21.30.37 # * bluebrother just looks at FS#6308 21.30.52 # bluebrother: backlight fading uses extra power, so when the battery gets low it is disabled to get a little more life out of it 21.31.08 # symbols would be nice, but I disagree with the poster of that task 21.31.19 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 21.31.26 # the h10 iriver manual uses symbols iirc 21.31.39 # * dan_a sees his name in the logs 21.31.53 # barrywardell, I assumed that but I was a bit surprised when I first ran into it, so I thought it should get documented if it's intended 21.32.06 # dan_a: hi. we have been discussing what we should call the buttons on the sansa 21.32.25 # also, it seems when connecting the charger when on low battery doesn't restore the fading. If you boot with charger connected it works. 21.32.32 # but I'll need to verify this. 21.32.57 # dan_a: i pasted some links to the current status around 21.15 21.33.15 # the only problem with icons for the buttons would be the html version 21.33.37 # they could get replaced by graphics but that won't work for blind users 21.33.57 # ah. the blind users shouldn't be forgotten 21.34.10 # we could simply keep the text for the html version 21.34.24 # would require quite some opt-ing but it would work 21.34.26 # tucoz: I'm just going to check that they're not called anything different in the Sansa manual, but I'm happy with those names 21.34.46 # great 21.35.03 # how should we refer to symbols in here? 21.35.15 # when we do user support 21.35.32 # could you not just use the existing text as the alt tag in the html version? 21.35.48 # do we not have a functional hard reset parameter for the iPod because we don't know it - or because we never thought we needed it ? 21.36.44 # use the same names as in the html version, and add a page (maybe in the appendix?) that lists the keys and names 21.37.22 # the alt tag could get used, but htlatex doesn't allow this easily. No idea if it can changed to do so. 21.37.30 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp48-62.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.37.41 # otherwise I had proposed that myself ;-) 21.38.05 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 21.38.38 # bluebrother: ah, why can things never be simple? 21.39.43 # htlatex is kind of a bitch. I'll still need to look why textsc generates messy html code 21.40.13 # as always: works fine on a small test document but not with the real one 21.41.51 # bluebrother, tucoz: the iriver manual calles ff/rewind next/previous and cals the other two buttons select and cancel 21.41.59 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.43.11 # and then it uses symbols for the buttons too 21.44.30 # select and cancel makes sense imo 21.45.02 # agreed 21.45.38 # here's a direct link to the manual: http://www.iriver.com/html/admin/etc/adet_download_process_1.asp?fileName=H10%20ENG.zip&pathFlag=EG_DOWNLOAD_UP_PATH 21.45.48 # and next / previous ... don't know what's printed on the keys itself 21.46.37 # ok. that we could change 21.46.58 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 21.47.10 # i think we should change them to be the same as the iriver manual 21.47.16 # i agree 21.47.47 # bluebrother: look at page 6 of the pdf to see the side buttons. and further on in the manual for their use of symbols 21.47.55 # yes, after looking at that pdf the names sound reasonable 21.48.50 # already found that page :) 21.49.15 # maybe I'll try to get a look in building a symbol font ... 21.49.26 # * bluebrother searches for some free time 21.50.24 # we should definitley use the same names as in the iriver manual 21.50.59 # tucoz: will you commit the change? 21.51.43 # i can not do that now unfortunatley. i can do it tomorrow, unless someone else does iot 21.51.56 # tucoz: The original Sansa manual refers to up as "Up/Pause/Resume" and down as "Down/Submenu" I think our names match closely enough for people familiar with the Sansa manual to understand them :D 21.51.56 # for the h10? I can do it ... 21.52.29 # dan_a. great. 21.52.50 # bluebrother: yes, please 21.53.13 # and i think you can close the bug report once it's done 21.53.22 # I only don't know if I have everything installed to change the graphic. 21.53.25 # but I'll see. 21.54.39 Quit RedZZR ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 21.55.03 # ah, inkscape seems to have everything needed 21.55.23 # bluebrother: remember to select the entire image before you export to png 21.55.29 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.55.49 Join hcs [0] (n=hcs@dialup-4.250.36.216.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net) 21.55.51 # and also, i save as .eps in inkscape and run epstopdf on that file to get the pdf 21.56.21 # ok. Maybe we'll find a way to do this automatically sometime 21.56.59 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 21.57.00 # yes. but imagemagick can not be used for this purpose 21.57.41 # I know. 21.57.52 # did you do any special settings when exporting to png? 21.58.11 # I just used Export Bitmap / Page and kept all settings 21.58.12 # no 21.58.21 # lavid: you were asking about mi4code? did you get it working? 21.58.55 # got to go. i'll try and fix the e200 manual tomorrow 21.59.27 Part tucoz 22.00.25 # why isn't the sansa on the manual page? 22.03.06 # oh well - it was worth a try - but I can confirm that using the alternatve READ SECTORS command code of 0x21 doesn't work on the 80GB either /= 22.05.19 Join Doomed [0] (n=doomed@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 22.05.40 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-252-205-86.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 22.06.15 # GodEater: :( 22.06.25 # indeed :( 22.06.26 Quit dan_a () 22.08.18 # Bagder: i think the sansa should be added to the manual page 22.08.22 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 22.08.43 Quit funky ("leaving") 22.11.12 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 22.12.02 Quit xx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.15.01 # barrywardell: I don't know how far the Sansa manual itself is prepared for that 22.15.53 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h162n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 22.16.00 # Bagder: how're you doing? 22.16.24 # pixelma: true.although it would probably be better than nothing 22.17.00 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 22.17.22 Quit gotthardt ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.17.41 # * GodEater looks for the ATA command for "Why the f*ck don't you just work dammit?" 22.17.58 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 22.18.02 # 0xFU 22.18.02 # could i ask about the "ignore the when sorting patch" to be re thought out about adding to the cvs. its a small patch and it is useful. its a lot easier to have that patch than to rename all the artist tags. many mp3 players defualt firmware does this automatically 22.18.22 # hcs: hehehe I'll try that! 22.18.52 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.19.43 # midgey: Are you wiki user TomRoss? 22.19.50 # i am 22.19.53 # midgey ? 22.20.08 # is that your real nick? 22.20.15 # Were your mpegplayer results with the standard CVS, or any patches applied? 22.20.17 # it does have a slight resemblance to "midkay". 22.20.23 Join gotthardt [0] (i=86868802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-91dabd47ef2074c5) 22.20.32 # im either midgey or midgey34 on here 22.20.33 # linuxstb: i love you so much for having done that mpegplayer. 22.20.41 # linuxstb: standard cvs 22.20.44 # mine were with kernel_on_cop_6, but you probably guessed 22.21.13 Quit d4ft ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.21.18 # Mikachu: Yes, that's what I wanted. 22.21.39 # midgey: Quite impressive already then. 22.21.59 # i used the elephants dream videos 22.22.18 # let it play for a few minutes and took what looked to be the normal speed 22.22.29 # it was slower sometimes, faster others 22.22.51 Quit D0ug ("Leaving") 22.23.09 # eg: 224x176 dipped to 8 at times and 13 at others 22.24.17 # Doomed, that patch got rejected as not wanted functionality IIRC 22.25.24 # someone could close my old 3020 if they'd like 22.26.08 # * tehsmo still thinks the 'ignore-the sorting' should be a menu option 22.26.16 Quit mkis5 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.26.50 # * bluebrother still thinks there should be a category like "add-ons" in FS 22.26.53 Join suckacracka [0] (n=suckacra@ool-45717d18.dyn.optonline.net) 22.32.42 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.33.13 # barrywardell, changes committed 22.33.52 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.33.52 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.33.58 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 22.35.49 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 22.36.14 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 22.37.03 # LinusN was the Turning Torso already finished? 22.37.25 # turning torso? 22.38.07 # yeah, kinda skyscraper in malm/sweden 22.38.15 # yes well im just saying, its a lame excuse 22.38.15 # yeah.. just looked it up 22.38.19 # pretty cool looking 22.39.00 # theres just a documentary about it on tv 22.39.46 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 22.39.51 Quit debauched_sloth ("Leaving.") 22.40.13 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 22.40.30 # hmmm anybody have a H320 here? 22.40.47 # I used to. 22.41.10 # thanks bluebrother 22.41.18 # did you have rockbox on it 22.41.33 # I'm looking into making the sansa manual buildable. There are only a few buttons missing 22.42.06 Join jborn__ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 22.42.13 # Is apps/plugins/SOURCES still wrong? It looks like today's changes disables rockblox for the H10 5/6GB. 22.42.22 # i see. that explains why it isn't on the manual page yet 22.42.26 Quit jborn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.44.32 # linuxstb: yes it is... actually I wanted to change it first, now looking if I couldn't prepare rockblox for all targets 22.45.01 # so thats a no go on a rethink about the ignoring the in the tagcache? 22.45.13 # pixelma Am I right in thinking that it should simply have been changed to "#if ((LCD_WIDTH != 128) || (LCD_HEIGHT != 64)) && !defined(SANSA_E200)" ? 22.45.41 # yes... 22.45.46 # What targets (apart from Sansa) is it not working on? 22.45.58 # Doomed: i think it has been resurrected and rejected a few times already so probably not 22.46.02 # ifp 22.46.02 # damn, oh well 22.46.57 # anyone against filling three missing buttons with fixmes to make the sansa manual buildable? 22.47.01 # linuxstb: that's why the check for 128 pixels width - if you want to you can change it back... 22.47.25 # pixelma: Yes, I'll commit now. 22.47.39 # seems to take longer than I thought :/ - the new highscore thing doesn't help me with it 22.47.41 # linuxstb: should that be a && in there 22.47.46 # midgey: i can close 3020 for you. what's the reason for closing? 22.47.47 # instead of the || 22.48.03 # bluebrother: which buttons are missing and why? 22.48.20 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.48.30 # barrywardell: the patch is out of date and add things that are valid ofr the pc version of the decoder but things we wont decode on rockbox 22.48.33 # gotthardt: No - it's disabling for 128x64 LCDs plus the Sansa. 22.48.43 # ok - good 22.48.44 # 1. toggle between modes in pitch screen. Seems not to be added to the keymap yet 22.48.51 Join ruisu [0] (n=ruisu@red-corp-201.143.151.219.telnor.net) 22.49.06 # I'm just restoring what was there before, but without the (LCD_WIDTH != 240) && at the start. 22.49.13 # 2. action "enter" in tree mode. Haven't found it out 22.49.37 # thanks - i was late to work trying to get patch fixed and at work i cant do cvs 22.49.43 # hello, about the mpegplugin , to convert a video, has anyone converted a video within linux? 22.50.29 # ruisu: Yes. mencoder and vlc both work. 22.50.44 # hmm, transcoding wmv to mpg? 22.51.02 # thanks linuxstb :) 22.51.27 # ruisu: If the video can be played with mplayer, mencoder can convert. 22.52.13 Part lowlight 22.53.53 # hmm, yes it can be played, but i get this error: http://pastebin.com/852171 22.54.57 Quit Arathis (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.55.29 # bluebrother: for 2, enter is select 22.55.40 # ruisu: try -vc ffwmv3 22.56.06 # will use ffmpeg opensource decoder instead of binary dll, but it's marked as "problems" in the help output 22.56.08 # 3. got to parent directory from tree 22.56.17 # sorry, just got distracted by a phone call 22.56.22 Join mkis5 [0] (n=mkis55@pool-68-160-192-225.ny325.east.verizon.net) 22.56.53 # * barrywardell got distracted by a phone call too 22.56.59 # Cannot find codec 'wmv3' in libavcodec... 22.57.13 # What is your mencoder command-lind? 22.57.18 # ^command-line? 22.57.25 Join Margot_ [0] (n=margot@je.les.aime.avec.de.lalingeriefine.com) 22.57.26 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net) 22.57.36 Quit webguest17 ("CGI:IRC") 22.57.50 # oh XD whats google definig 22.58.06 # mencoder $1 -of mpeg -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=192 -af resample=44100:0:0 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=600 -vf scale=320:240 -o $1.mpg -vc ffwmv3 22.58.12 # bluebrother: 3 should be left. 22.58.50 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.59.02 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.59.10 # ok, then I'll fix that and leave 1. empty 22.59.18 # then it will be buildable 22.59.20 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B9514D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.59.37 Join Angry [0] (n=Miranda@dslb-084-056-131-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.59.41 # ruisu: The problem seems to be this: "[mpeg2video @ 0x87bb7ec]MPEG1/2 does not support 1000/1 fps" - the video is being detected as 1000fps... 23.00.02 Quit Criamos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.00.06 # yup, that is what i suspect.. 23.00.30 # all videos i have are behaveing like this :P 23.00.30 # What does mplayer say about the framerate? 23.00.34 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932463.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.01.20 Join webguest99 [0] (i=d918e9e1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c9f704121872f10c) 23.01.31 # wow, this is very wrong: 23.01.46 # wmv files always give crazy fps in mplayer 23.01.52 # does it say 1000 fps when you play it back too? 23.01.55 # 1000fps, 0.0bps 23.02.04 # i think the demuxer isn't quite right 23.02.31 # what happens if you just say -fps 30000/1001 or whatever it should be? 23.02.38 # (try mplayer first) 23.03.05 # what? where do i try? 23.03.14 # at the end of your mplayer command line 23.03.17 # ook 23.03.46 # does it play back really slowly or just slightly wrong, or maybe even correctly? 23.03.51 # CVS experts here? How can I add a new file? I get "cvs [server aborted]: "add" requires write access to the repository" when I exec "cvs add " 23.04.22 # you need write access to the repository 23.04.44 # Actually, I need to add a dir with some files in it 23.04.53 # you need to use a copy you haven't checked out anonymously 23.04.56 # http://pastebin.com/852187 23.04.57 # write access isn't just handed out willynilly 23.05.02 # Mikachu: how can I get one? I'm not a committer. 23.05.08 # webguest99: If you're preparing a patch, just zip up that folder. 23.05.15 # hoh whait XD 23.05.29 # webguest99: And provide a patch for anything else you change. 23.05.35 # ruisu: that's mencoder, not mplayer 23.05.46 # hehe 23.05.55 # right, got that, and its the same 23.05.56 # ruisu: you'll want to remove -vc ffwmv3 again too 23.05.59 # you can also diff -u /dev/null path/to/new/file > patchfile 23.06.09 # i didn't see the 1000 fps thing when i suggested that 23.06.24 # or diff against a clean checkout manually 23.06.30 # linuxstb: Aha! You write faster than I think! :-) I was about to say that some existing files were modified as well 23.06.51 Quit hcs () 23.06.54 # yay, without the -vc ffwmv3 it worked :) 23.06.58 # thanks Mikachu 23.07.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.07.14 Part tj2master 23.07.18 # ruisu: you'll have to check which framerate is the correct one, if you care 23.07.32 # if you're just encoding for mpegplayer i guess it doesn't matter if you leave frame limit off 23.08.08 # Without the correct framerate, A/V sync doesn't stand a chance... 23.08.20 # webguest99, you can simply create a diff for the files that got modified and diff everything else against /dev/null (and append it using >>) 23.08.23 Quit Jsunu ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 23.08.24 # yay :) 29.970 fps 23.08.28 # yeah but i was thinking benchmark 23.08.43 # Maybe ruisu actually wants to watch them... 23.08.44 # mi4code 0.9.30 is out 23.08.45 # this is why i wanted him to try with mplayer, it is fairly obvious then if you have the correct framerate 23.08.58 # Bagder, the sansa manual is now buildable. 23.09.00 # yeah, i have no idea what he wants since he doesn't answer some things i say :) 23.09.05 # bluebrother: great! 23.09.10 # Still missing lots of stuff, but you can build it 23.09.58 # hehe i do want to watc them :) 23.10.06 # watch^ 23.10.53 # thanbks linuxstb and Mikachu :] seeya 23.11.23 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.12.08 # Mikachu: Are you sure you tested the 176x96 version of the video? I'm surprised it's a lot slower than the ipod Color. 23.12.17 # me too 23.12.22 # i didn't use elephants dream though 23.12.33 # i should do that i guess 23.12.36 # That table is for Elephants Dream tests... 23.12.44 # heh, i was tired 23.13.08 # The encoder also makes a big difference in speed - as you've found. 23.14.42 # are these the whole movie? 23.15.17 # don't forget the wiki encodes are VBR, so FPS numbers taken at any point before the end are iffy. 23.15.50 # they are quite variable in their bitrate (which is good from a quality POV) 23.16.07 # linuxstb: better add mpeg extension to viewers.config too? 23.16.19 # i managed to edit viewers.config with text_editor :) 23.16.21 # i had to reboot though 23.16.34 # * petur renamed the file - much faster :p 23.16.55 # bluebrother: sansa manual added on the site 23.17.04 # nice :) 23.17.44 # and the new mi4code can decrypt the new sansa firmware upgrade 23.18.54 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p54932212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.19.16 # strange... when I hoover over the elephants dream movies links, the filename has mpg extension, but when I save the link it says .mpeg 23.20.05 # you hoover? ;) 23.20.19 # sure ;) 23.20.27 # IE? 23.20.36 # yes - firefox does it ok 23.20.43 Quit Criamos (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.20.54 # Bagder: does the new mi4code just add the new sansa key, or are there other changes? 23.21.13 # just the new key 23.21.45 # e200tool - A tool for accessing the SanDisk e200 series manufacturer mode. 23.21.50 # petur: Renaming files for you seems very broken... 23.21.53 # MrH's latest offer 23.22.09 # nice 23.22.10 # linuxstb: ? 23.22.17 # linuxstb: is it okay if i check fps after half a minute or so? 23.22.29 Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") 23.22.45 Quit CriamosAndy (Client Quit) 23.22.56 # Mikachu: You should watch it for as long as possible - the fps displayed is the average since the start of the movie. 23.23.05 # petur: You said IE renamed the downloaded files? 23.23.29 # Mikachu: My contention is that FPS taken at any arbitrary point in the movie are not comprable to anything else, as the FPS number is a running average, and the bits are not evenly distributed. 23.23.29 # it proposes a file with .mpeg extension 23.23.53 # (bitrate being a very large contributer to FPS performance) 23.24.02 # but if i wait for the movie to end, mpegplayer will exit without showing the fps 23.24.08 Join shnee [0] (n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com) 23.24.26 # Bagder: where is e200tool? 23.24.43 # hang on 23.24.48 # gtg 23.24.53 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200tool/e200tool-src.zip 23.24.57 # you need to start paying attention during the credits. I never saw more than a .2 change while in the credits, but a much higher swing throughout the movie. 23.25.02 # also unless the movie is very boring at the start and interesting at the end, it should approach the correct average pretty quickly 23.25.03 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!") 23.25.39 # I have a graph of the motion over time - it is not very even. 23.25.45 # No, it does change significantly, right up to the end. 23.26.09 # funny, audio stopped playing and it doesn't take button input 23.26.28 # Yes, that's one of many bugs (although I think I've fixed that one locally). 23.26.38 # ah, it was near the end of the video 23.26.49 Part perl|work 23.27.11 Quit rkostynu ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 23.27.13 # A/V sync seems good now, but somehow I've managed to break audio playback, it's constantly a little garbled... 23.27.24 # it's that way sometimes for me with cvs 23.27.37 # Now it's like it always... 23.28.06 Quit webguest99 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.29.53 Quit ruisu (Connection reset by peer) 23.35.34 # * qwm scratches his neck 23.36.09 Part automan ("Leaving") 23.36.12 Quit Wiwie (Connection timed out) 23.37.58 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 23.38.42 Quit midgey () 23.38.45 # so... rockbox shuts down from inactivity before it finishes playing the video 23.38.49 Quit mueslii (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.39.22 # hmm theres a/v sync now? 23.40.01 # Mikachu: You think it shouldn't? :) 23.40.23 # possibly not 23.41.28 Join webguest88 [0] (i=189fde8a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-31a05bf4ac1a77c6) 23.42.10 # the ipodpatcher and manual I am using must be different 23.42.27 # there is no -a to install the ipodbootloader.ipod 23.42.34 # only -w to write 23.42.52 # linuxstb: optimizations for the future could be skipping audio decoding if headphones aren't in 23.42.55 # its a good thing I backed up the orig bootpartition 23.42.57 # lol 23.43.03 # can anyone help me 23.43.12 # this is for a gen 1 nano 23.43.13 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0011.fh-trier.de) 23.43.23 # black front metal back 23.43.26 # 1 gig 23.43.31 # webguest88: Download the ipodpatcher linked from the manual... 23.43.54 # Mikachu: I'd rather see a patch to enable audio playback of movies through the iPod piezo when headphones aren't in. ;) 23.43.55 Quit Wiwie (Client Quit) 23.44.03 # it brings you too a folder 23.44.04 # haha 23.44.06 # with alot of versions 23.44.15 # like 2 3 and 4 for ipodpatcher 23.44.34 # then use the latest one... 23.44.55 # thats the one I am using 23.45.06 # and alot of the commands are not in it 23.45.11 # like --scan doesn't work 23.45.33 # I had to guess on the drive number and look at the tracks on it 23.45.47 # Are you using the latest version of the manual? 23.46.40 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano-20070105.pdf 23.46.46 # 2007 looks like it 23.47.12 # which Ipod pacher should I use 23.47.19 # can you tell me that pls 23.47.26 Join mueslii [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 23.47.35 # I used the one ipodpatcher.exe 23.47.43 # is that not the right now 23.47.44 # one 23.47.52 # Argh, seems the links in the manual aren't very helpful... Just use this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationBeta 23.48.05 # k thx 23.48.34 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.49.03 # damn. MIssed an auction for a h10 that ended yesterday and had no bidders :( 23.50.54 # can't you just mail the guy? 23.52.00 # hmm. Maybe. 23.52.17 # linuxstb, is there a problem with the installation links in the manual? 23.53.21 # Yes - it just links to the http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod directory, which has various versions of ipodpatcher. IMO, it should link directly to the binaries, in the same way as the IpodInstallationBeta does. 23.53.51 # Or, we rearrange the download directory in some way. 23.54.54 # * linuxstb pings Bagder 23.54.56 # I think that the issue was that the main site was down at the time. 23.55.05 # yes, I changed that recently. 23.55.12 # * Bagder awakes 23.55.21 Join trypt0 [0] (i=trypt0@ip68-8-222-147.sd.sd.cox.net) 23.55.41 # imo it would be best to organize the download directory different. But I can change it to something else 23.55.56 # My idea would be to change the URLs to something like http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe - and then we can link to that top-level ipodpatcher directory. 23.56.14 # that was my idea too. 23.56.30 Quit Febs ("Time to go home.") 23.56.35 # and the mbr files in that folder could get into /bootloader/ipod/mbr/ 23.56.57 # The MBR files are linked directly from the wiki page - no need to move them... 23.57.19 # they are? Ok. 23.57.57 # Yes, the IpodConversionToFAT32 page. 23.58.03 # is it necessary to write "fps" in every field in the table? 23.58.24 # there already are ipodpatcher-macosx and ipodpatcher-win32 etc dirs in there... 23.58.59 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 23.59.01 # you think we should have one dir and have subdirs in that for the archs?