--- Log for 27.01.107 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.00 # i didnt make any changes to emu.c 00.01.55 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.221.169) 00.01.56 # i'm not sure whether it should block you committing the rest of the patch though. It could be a separate bug that I have uncovered 00.02.18 # anyone know what the CPU frequency of an e200 is? 00.03.02 # up to 100MHz i think 00.03.10 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.03.38 Quit Thundercloud (No route to host) 00.03.44 # Nico_P a bit confusing 00.03.58 # if you have any advices that wold be great 00.04.11 # hmm, the stock firmware seems very slow when playing a 320k file 00.04.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.07.11 Quit kirkunit ("Lost terminal") 00.08.05 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.08.31 Quit desowin ("use linux") 00.08.49 # i'm here actually.. perldiver? did you want me? 00.09.19 # yes, about the brickmania menu screen... 00.09.32 # ah yes.. i have to go right now but i can do that in about 45m. 00.09.32 # gigabeat target 00.09.52 # ok, wondered if you needed any bitmaps 00.10.00 # gotta log off too for that time, so maybe i'll see you here in a bit.. 00.10.03 # perldiver: what kind of advice ? 00.10.05 # nah, it's under control, thanks :) 00.10.09 # be back soon 00.10.11 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.10.27 # Nico_P where i should paste the rej 00.11.09 Quit lunacymaze ("Leaving") 00.15.02 Join redbreva_ [0] (n=redbreva@host86-144-107-44.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 00.15.28 # to the place where it was supposed to be (the rej indicates line numers), before or after the code that was added by the other patch at the same place 00.15.32 Quit Vyrus001 ("Leaving") 00.16.00 Quit dune2 ("Sleep in progress ... please, wait a while during dreams syncing ...") 00.16.01 # ok thanks 00.17.40 Quit redbreva_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.55 Nick thegeek_ is now known as thegeek (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 00.30.33 Join Tman [0] (i=tyler@adsl-69-153-1-245.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) 00.31.06 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.31.17 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp142-49.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.33.06 Quit Mouser_X3 (Nick collision from services.) 00.33.23 Quit Febs (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.33.28 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.45.02 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.208.228) 00.49.44 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.52.00 Join terinjokes [0] (n=terin@wikinews/Terinjokes) 00.52.25 # ok, I'm going to give compiling rb a shot :D 00.54.22 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 00.55.45 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.55.49 # barrywardell: you available to test a patch real quick 00.55.55 # yup 00.56.04 # http://www.pastebin.ca/329714 00.56.27 # that probably wont fix the problem, but its worth a try 00.57.31 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 00.57.32 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.59.23 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-251-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 01.02.47 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.03.02 # midgey: doesn't make any difference unfortunately :( 01.03.23 # darn, and here i was hoping for an easy solution 01.05.35 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.05.37 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.05.57 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.06.07 # so I get home and sit down to take a look at why MoB defeated me last time 01.06.33 # and it all comes rushing back to me. it sucks, because it's damn near impossible to know what chunk of data to hand to the WPS 01.07.37 # midgey: I find it very strange how it runs perfectly the second time i run rockboy??? 01.08.05 # barrywardell: so do I and its annoying that I can't reproduce it in the sim 01.11.55 # anyone know if the same bug is present in the iAudio or Nano? 01.14.15 # * midgey goes off to eat 01.15.35 # What bug? 01.16.01 Quit ender` (" (Coder's Ditty) 100 little bugs in the code, 100 bugs in the code, fix one bug, compile it again, 102 little bugs in the cod) 01.17.15 Join ZenMasterJG [0] (n=jordan@69.43.65.27) 01.17.23 Quit subson () 01.18.20 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.18.39 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.197.197) 01.18.56 # hey Thundercloud! 01.19.31 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.21.36 # barrywardell: What bug were you and midgey discussing? I'm having a hard time finding something in the logs. 01.22.28 # Llorean: he said he put a lengthy comment in the trecker (about rockboy on H10) 01.22.34 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.22.37 # err... tracker 01.23.02 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.150.36) 01.23.43 # pixelma: Thanks 01.24.37 Join Sn0vv [0] (i=415c3249@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3fe960dc0fef2a1b) 01.24.46 # Hello All 01.24.59 # Hello all 01.25.49 # ppl here but no one talking? 01.25.59 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.26.16 # Sn0vv: This is a support / development channel. Talk happens when people are working on something or when people need help 01.26.18 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.26.46 # oh...well i helped and donated and need some help as well 01.27.11 # Well go ahead 'n ask your question, and what help as may come will come. 01.27.40 # barrywardell: have you run any COP builds yet? 01.28.13 # << Sn0vv: Have you downloaded the fonts package? 01.28.56 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.29.09 # so each require a font or i have to download one big font package? 01.29.22 # "the fonts package" 01.31.17 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.31.29 # I believe i am having difficulties finding that the link in the pdf led to the daily build section 01.31.45 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.203.15) 01.32.08 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.32.33 # The fonts package download is on the Daily Build page, yes 01.33.06 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.33.22 # ahhhhh its small and blends in my sleepiness 01.34.19 # what does MoB stands for? Metadata on Buffer? 01.34.22 # oh how i longed for the ipod to have a drag and drop type system 01.34.41 # XavierGr: Yes 01.37.10 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54930A22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.37.20 Join ibeef [0] (i=464709c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ba9024777bc91fd3) 01.37.41 # hi 01.37.51 # hi 01.38.16 # does anybody know where i can get the ipodpatcher 0.5 source code 01.38.21 # perldiver: ok, i'm back. 01.39.39 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.40.08 # does anybody know where i can get the ipodpatcher 0.5 source code? 01.40.18 # ibeef: You asked that less than 2 minutes ago. 01.40.59 # sorry i got a glichy irc client 01.41.29 Quit midgey () 01.41.40 Join Vyrus001 [0] (n=Vyrus001@adsl-69-231-43-211.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 01.42.13 # ibeef: It's in SVN - the tools/ipodpatcher/ directory. 01.42.30 # thanks 01.42.37 # bye 01.42.42 Part ibeef 01.43.21 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.178.130) 01.43.24 # * Llorean learns that on iPods, Rockbox Error: -5 means "You've put an iPod Video build on your nano, you fool!" 01.43.39 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 01.43.40 # How did Linus write that? 01.43.48 Join JPMaximilian [0] (n=john@resident257.residents.newmanhall.net) 01.43.50 # I'm not sure 01.44.06 # I learned it because I always type 22, then backspace and change it to 21, and forgot to do so, during configure 01.44.18 Join Snorglorf [0] (i=4347084f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f65d528f13a22649) 01.44.19 # Ah, "Bad checksum". 01.44.28 # Hey everyone 01.44.56 # Sorry for the stupid newb question, but I really have looked everywhere, for the past 45 minutes or so. I feel so stupid.... Where do I download the plugins? 01.45.05 # perldiver: how's it with the patches ? 01.45.07 # grr 01.45.08 # You don't download them. 01.45.30 # Viewvc doesn't like to properly display BMPs when viewing it 01.45.30 # They're included in the main rockbox.zip. 01.45.31 # Well how do I get them? 01.45.37 # Viewcvs did... 01.45.39 # Oh :\ 01.45.45 # I'm confused 01.46.38 # amiconn: I noticed that today. Maybe it's a mime-type issue though - I noticed the new bitmaps are applicate/octet-stream 01.46.49 # PNG works 01.46.55 # midgey: I can change options in the option menu without the crashes, on iPod Nano 01.47.11 # hmm 01.47.33 # Llorean: and can you exit the menu ok? 01.47.39 # barrywardell: Yup 01.47.40 # i wonder what causes the bug on the H10 01.47.55 # I tried changing the Display Stats option, and switching to scaled mode. 01.47.55 Quit Snorglorf (Client Quit) 01.48.35 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.49.33 # trying a new brickmania menu, any thoughts? http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9900/brickmaniamenubg320x240rl2.jpg 01.50.07 # midgey: i think a test on X5 would be quite revealing as it has the same lcd size as the H10 01.50.26 # you're on the 20GB right? 01.50.30 # midkay: Will this one actually highlight the selected option instead of looking like it's trying to highlight everything *but* the selected one? 01.50.39 # midkay, i dont love it 01.50.42 # :) 01.51.00 # i'd be interested to see if the H10 5/6 GB has the same issue 01.51.01 # yup, 20GB, 160x128. 01.51.02 # Llorean: yes. :) Paprica: you're here! :) 01.51.13 # yess.. im here.. :P 01.51.22 # but dont have too much time... 01.51.24 # I do think that's pretty bland though 01.51.33 # * midkay ponders.. 01.51.35 Quit toffe ("MegaIRC v3.27 http://ironfist.at.tut.by") 01.51.39 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54930A22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.52.34 Quit entheh ("^~") 01.52.48 # midgey: Oh, and I was using the rockboy4 patch from the tracker. 01.52.54 # would an alternate background change that? i don't really have any ideas. 01.53.10 # midkay: I think it's more the font choice, and the word "BrickMania" itself 01.53.19 # Llorean: i figured as much, the pastebin one just reverted some of HCl's changes 01.53.36 # ok so is there any real documentation besides code that tells the format of the different databases 01.53.39 # midkay: If you took the word Brickmania, dropped the underline, and cycled it letter by letter through the colors of bricks... 01.53.49 # ooh :) 01.53.57 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.211.253) 01.54.11 # Llorean: Why do you configure every time? 01.54.38 # * amiconn has one build directory for every target he has, plus some extra ones for test builds 01.55.42 # amiconn: When I swap around patches, I wipe the build directory just to head off the rare weirdness. 01.56.08 # Hmm, wouldn't 'make clean' be enough in that case? 01.56.16 # Usually is. 01.56.31 # But I got into the habit of doing it for some reason. 01.56.48 # aarrgghh - I'm probably stupid, but the latest commit breaks the latest COP patch. 01.57.15 # when the ipod says buffer full should ibe worried?? 01.57.57 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.59.06 # .... 01.59.24 # Llorean, Paprica: changed a bit... http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4290/brickmaniamenubg320x240ad3.jpg 01.59.42 # also more how it would look with "resume game" selected from the menu, the others deselected. 01.59.49 Quit Alonea ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 02.00.05 Quit barrywardell () 02.00.18 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.00.20 # Hmm, blackjack seems to have problems 02.00.33 # On H300 I only see a blank screen when starting it 02.00.36 # Sn0vv: It just means you've probably set your max files in folder option too low. 02.00.46 # You should probably organize your music better. 02.02.15 # start giving users fancy menus in the pluggins, and they'll expect a GUI everywhere! ;) 02.02.34 # my ipod just froze 02.02.50 # Soap: new advance GUI, where! 02.02.54 # :D 02.04.09 # midkay: What you SHOULD do is expand the Menu API to include the option for a bitmap header ("Brickmania") and center aligned text. :-P 02.04.33 # amiconn: seems to work fine here 02.04.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.04.38 # haha, yeah right.. :) 02.04.49 # ok, got rid of my e250 :) 02.05.31 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.08.03 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.178.130) 02.09.09 # ok i'm leaving 02.09.24 # going on ski vacation :) 02.09.34 # cu in a week 02.09.55 # Llorean, Paprica: http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9279/brickmaniamenubg320x240av9.jpg 02.10.12 # feel free to commit my ptaches :) 02.10.29 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.10.34 # midkay: it kind of reminds me of playdoh 02.10.52 # haha. the header does to me too.. 02.11.10 # but apparently it needs visual ... stuff! :) 02.11.28 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.11.30 # blig 02.11.52 # bling even 02.12.43 # I kinda liked the black text, colorful title version 02.13.03 # is Paprica still around? 02.13.03 # midkay: what was wrong with the old graphics? 02.13.45 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 02.13.49 # midgey: nothing in particular, i just felt like trying new ones (added bonus of making the gigabeat ones easier to create). 02.14.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9a8c813fe11e1da5) 02.14.54 # actually i never personally really liked the tiled tiny bright-blue bricks in the back. but i wouldn't think of changing it if Paprica wasn't totally happy with a proposed alternative. 02.15.17 # ah ok, i think the graphics it are quite nice actually 02.15.29 # BiptoN: yes, I have tried the cop patch on my H10. I think I left a comment in the tracker with my results 02.15.41 # midgey: "the graphics" meaning.. the title screen? 02.15.54 # yep, call me strange 02.17.14 Quit combrains (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 02.17.32 Part terinjokes 02.17.52 # wouldn't think of it :) opinions differ. 02.20.11 # amiconn: i just tried a fresh build on my H320 and I don't have that problem 02.20.30 # barrywardell: do you have an idea of why recording may not work? 02.20.42 Join webguest81 [0] (i=464709c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-46b3ba23b105b999) 02.20.52 # it does work 02.21.28 # when i bark off recording on my 4g ipod with cop it freezes 02.21.37 # wheres the rockbox svn 02.21.43 # svn.rockbox.org 02.21.51 # ok 02.21.53 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.22.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingSVN 02.22.08 # oh, with the cop patch. were you trying to move recording on to the cop? 02.22.21 # i tried it where it was 02.22.27 # and also i tried it on the cop 02.22.37 # it took forever to shutdown when it was on the cop 02.22.45 # froze both ways though 02.23.20 # i haven't tried recording with the cop patch 02.23.50 # is there something can be done about the "grey'ish" screen that appears before the file browser on boot (on gigabeat at least) 02.24.00 # so i'm not sure why that would be happening 02.24.08 # BiptoN: Have you tested recording a) with a standard SVN build and b) with only the COP patch and no other changes? 02.24.38 # no other change except cop on an svn build, yes 02.24.41 # perldiver: I guess that's something to do with the bootloader splash that was implemented. 02.25.03 # that cop really helps out 02.25.17 # i get 2 more hours battery life with it and scaling on 02.25.28 # opposed to pushin 4 hours 02.25.41 # So you normally have no scaling? 02.25.50 # linuxstb well on my build from 0120 it doesnt appear for example, it does on the new one though again 02.27.05 # and i believe it existed before the splash as well 02.27.34 # When exactly does it appear? Before the main Rockbox logo? 02.27.52 Quit webguest81 ("CGI:IRC") 02.27.53 # linuxstb_: I think he means the Toshiba progress bar loading screen 02.27.57 # Kinda like the Apple logo on the iPods 02.28.16 # Llorean, Paprica: sorry to bug you, but one more. i took a look at the original again and it does have a.. dunno. a bit nicer feel to it. so i tried to more closely recreate it. http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9612/brickmaniamenubg320x240ha5.jpg 02.28.28 # perldiver: Or are you talking about a brief light blue screen post-splash but before filetree? 02.28.29 # Llorean no not that one 02.28.49 # blue screen post-splash, correct 02.29.02 # midkay: I *really* don't like blue as the selection color and yellow as the normal color 02.29.12 # perldiver: That's the default backdrop color before the .cfg file is loaded. 02.29.27 # Llorean: really? that's how it is in the original.. i chose nearly-identical colors. 02.29.36 # midkay: Yeah, I really really don't like the original. :) 02.29.36 # is there way to manually edit to black lets say? 02.29.43 # ah 02.29.55 # * amiconn now knows what's going on with blackjack 02.30.04 # Llorean: haha, ah :) vice-versa would be better, or is there something else in mind? 02.30.11 # perldiver: You can change the default colours in lcd.h (in firmware/export I think) 02.30.11 # midgey: Set a backdrop image and try again... 02.30.15 # perldiver: if the splash were in the Core instead of the Bootloader, the splash could simply stay onscreen until after the theme is loaded. 02.30.30 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.30.33 # linuxstb let me check 02.30.36 # midkay: Inversing them would work fine for me 02.30.46 # Err swapping 02.30.49 # let me see how that works out.. 02.30.59 # Llorean yeah, i bet 02.31.13 # midkay: "Yellow" to me is just hard-coded as a selection color is all. 02.31.16 # In my brain. 02.31.24 # Llorean: I think if you are going to have a boot splash, it needs to be as early as possible - i.e. in the bootloader. 02.31.32 # yeah, that makes sense. :) 02.32.04 # linuxstb_: Since it's loaded from disk, it could be in both places. Or the core could just not draw *anything* until after the .cfg is loaded. 02.32.32 # Sure. 02.33.05 # I think the latter's probably better, that flash of "default" before the theme loads on boot is kinda weird lookin' 02.33.50 # whats that "blue" color code? 02.33.58 # Llorean: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7744/brickmaniamenubg320x240lj7.jpg 02.34.01 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@91.140.16.176) 02.34.10 # midkay: Looks okay to me 02.34.17 # any other thoughts? 02.34.23 # perldiver: I don't know, but you need to look for LCD_DEFAULT_FG and LCD_DEFAULT_BG (IIRC) 02.34.33 # looking... 02.34.49 # midkay: Not really. I don't play Brickmania much. :) 02.34.55 # Llorean: ok, thanks. :) 02.35.00 # aha, its called *rockbox-blue* 02.35.01 # :P 02.35.19 # Yes, it's one of the blues from the website. 02.35.28 # is midgey or (especially) Paprica around to comment? 02.36.27 # seems decent, i think Paprica should have the final say and offer suggestions 02.36.48 # definitely... but where is he.. :) 02.38.26 Quit Sn0vv ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.39.58 Quit XavierGr () 02.41.54 Join webguest45 [0] (i=41bdf751@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9b4a9a83dd1f5e73) 02.41.58 # hello all 02.42.18 # hola 02.42.29 # midgey theres something not right about that screen though 02.42.33 # anyone successfully hacked that ipod nano 2nd gen firmware yet? 02.42.39 # midkay, i mean 02.42.55 # webguest45: not publically. 02.43.16 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.43.19 # so is someone working on it or has the firmware not even been cracked yet? 02.43.52 # I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it. 02.44.03 # what the os or cracking the firmware? 02.44.10 # the use of lime green and yellow, probably, just one of them would be enough 02.44.30 # webguest45: Cracking the firmware. Nothing else can happen until that does. 02.44.59 Quit webguest45 (Client Quit) 02.45.39 # so what happened with that "infamous" mp3 file ? 02.46.52 Quit zefie (Nick collision from services.) 02.47.06 Join zefie [0] (i=UPP@24-105-220-68.cm.mhcable.com) 02.48.27 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.48.50 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97C7B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.53.37 # perldiver: hmm.. let me see. 02.53.49 # do you care for either in particular? 02.53.59 # id go with lime 02.54.20 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 02.54.30 # easy fix.. 02.54.33 # http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7312/brickmaniamenubg320x240cr6.jpg 02.55.00 # yes, better 02.55.17 # any other thoughts? 02.56.35 # well, it's clean and simple, doesnt really need anything 02.57.15 # ok, thanks. :) 02.59.34 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.00.34 Quit zefie (".UPP.") 03.01.01 Quit pixelma (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 03.02.30 # ok, another color question 03.02.36 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 03.02.39 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.02.54 # the betting window in blackjack, is it black fixed? 03.03.00 # or can be changed as well? 03.03.14 # cause all my text is white 03.03.40 # linuxstb that worked btw, i have a black screen now before the file browser 03.05.02 # perldiver: same here, needs to be fixed.. 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I don't *think* it's changed since then. Lemme check 07.20.50 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965F16.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.21.01 # is there any reason anybody knows of why invadrox isn't committed yet? 07.21.18 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.21.20 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.23.08 # webguest92: I have no problem compiling it at all with Dev-C++ 07.23.36 # All you do is add ipodpatcher.c and ipodio-win32.c to a project, and tell it to compile, and that's it. 07.23.49 # o 07.24.06 # i compiled it just with ipodpatcher 07.24.11 # no wonder 07.24.15 # thanks 07.24.26 # That whole "win32" thing is a bit of a hint. ;) 07.24.44 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.27.47 # midkay: Does it use a custom menu, or normal menu code? 07.28.01 # Llorean: no menus at all. 07.28.27 # Dunno 07.28.39 # it's a really well-done game. i don't think there'd be any copyright problems... (?) 07.29.23 # Dunno 07.29.39 # hrm. 07.29.52 Quit XavierGr () 07.30.09 # the aliens look nearly/exactly the same is all (probably drawn pixel-for-pixel to look like the original).. i wonder if that poses a problem. 07.30.22 # Probably does. 07.32.25 # hm, there's a clone online (flash, i think) that specifically claims that it's an unofficial clone, and it uses identical bitmaps. 07.32.57 # came back with not linker errors, but errors from ipodio_win32.c 07.33.33 # webguest92: Well, I have no problems compiling it in Dev-C++, at all 07.33.44 # I downloaded and checked before I responded to you. 07.33.49 # Llorean: regarding the long persistent settings thread in the mailing list - could his problem be one of wrong/no line endings? 07.34.06 # Soap: I asked that in here. I was told windows and unix line endings should both be fine. 07.34.16 # i guess i'd better ask the committers list or something. 07.34.18 # poop. 07.34.20 # Did you use one of the revs 07.34.26 # webguest92: What version of Dev-C++ do you have? 07.34.31 # "One of the revs"? 07.34.34 # and lack of line endings? Easy to do on a one-line .cfg... 07.34.58 # 4.9.9.2 07.35.13 # Soap: I don't believe my one-line test had a line ending either. 07.35.23 # double poop 07.35.23 # * Llorean goes to check 07.35.32 # webguest92: Same version here 07.36.02 # I will try again 07.36.59 # webguest92: You've set the project to be a win32 console app? 07.37.00 # maybe its the header files got messed 07.37.07 # o 07.37.11 # ok 07.37.20 # i set it to empty 07.37.28 # forgot about that 07.37.34 # Soap: Just tried with a single line one, hand typed 07.37.46 # Soap: No problem 07.37.52 # single line with no line feed or carriage return should work judging from the code 07.38.33 # safetydan: Already confirmed it does. :-P 07.38.42 # too fast for me :) 07.38.52 # That one was easy enough to just test. :) 07.39.36 # My bet is either on him not actually having the build from the 26th, or having made a typo somewhere. 07.39.36 # invadrox isnt committed? 07.39.44 # how come i have it on my player hmm 07.40.45 # perldiver, custom build maybe? It's not in SVN 07.40.49 # perldiver: Ever run an unofficial build at any point? 07.40.58 Quit lee-qid (Connection timed out) 07.41.02 # i compile myself 07.41.06 # maybe thats why 07.41.07 # but 07.41.20 # i have no memory of patching with invadrox 07.42.09 # maybe it was in svn at some point? 07.42.09 # i tried setting it to a console app and it came up with the same errors 07.42.45 # webguest92: Paste the errors into a pastebin then. 07.43.25 # how 07.43.45 # Can you select the text and copy it? 07.43.58 # yea just paste it here? 07.44.06 # Not here 07.44.09 # In a pastebin. 07.44.11 # pastebin.ca 07.44.16 # Like http://pastebin.ca 07.44.20 # ok 07.44.21 # Then paste a link to it here 07.45.25 Join nothlit_ [0] (n=nothlit@pcd551183.netvigator.com) 07.46.52 # compile log? 07.47.18 # If it has the error messages you're referring to, sure. 07.47.25 # ok 07.48.24 Quit nothlit (Nick collision from services.) 07.48.26 Nick nothlit_ is now known as nothlit (n=nothlit@pcd551183.netvigator.com) 07.48.48 Quit safetydan (Remote closed the connection) 07.49.42 # http://pastebin.ca/329995 07.50.13 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.51.40 # webguest92: Why is there a main.cpp? 07.52.12 # when i clicked on console it came up 07.53.10 # i took it out and it came with the same errors 07.53.31 # I didn't tell you to start a new project of that type, I just asked if you were sure that the project properties had it set as a console app 07.53.40 # o 07.53.42 # wait 07.54.09 # file>properties? 07.54.48 # o 07.54.59 # yea its a win32 console 07.55.36 # i need the 2 header files right? 07.56.27 # The project should only have the two .c files I specified in it and nothing else is necessary. 07.57.25 # You don't change any other settings. 07.57.37 # Just create a new empty project, add those two files, rebuild all, and it should work. 07.57.44 # i didnt include the header files but i got the 2 header files in the directory of the 2 .c files: ipodio.h and parttypes.h 07.58.00 # Yes, I know you have them. 07.58.27 # They're necessary but they don't need to be added to the dev-C++ project. 07.58.42 # Honestly, I'm not so sure about your error message. 07.58.45 # messages 07.58.51 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-71-235-127-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 07.58.56 # Have you changed the files at all? 07.58.58 # quick question 07.59.04 # no 07.59.16 # ill download them all again 07.59.16 # And how did you download them, exactly? What tool did you use? 07.59.19 # to make sure 07.59.26 # rocko: Ask the question? 07.59.37 # I have a 60gb photo ipod, I wanna boot into the regular firmware 07.59.53 # i just used the browser 08.00.04 # webguest92: What browser... 08.00.17 # ie 08.00.53 # So you just browsed the ViewVC stuff, and downloaded there? 08.00.59 # yes 08.01.15 # Try using a better method 08.01.22 # such as... 08.01.29 # Either use an actual SVN tool to check out the sources, or just download the source tarball... 08.01.49 # could you suggest a SVN tool 08.01.56 # Alright, stop. 08.02.03 # Why exactly are you trying to compile your own iPodPatcher? 08.02.47 # to change it a little after a good compile....but i didnt add anything before this 08.03.47 # Just try downloading the source tarball for now, and see if you can get that to compile. 08.04.20 # where is it 08.04.28 # On the SVN builds page. 08.04.34 # ok 08.04.35 # What change are you trying to make to ipodpatcher? 08.04.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.05.48 # more to the scanning abilities 08.06.45 # Are you a programmer? 08.07.00 # little bit 08.07.13 # used to be experienced 08.07.23 # With C? 08.07.26 # Or C++? 08.07.30 # but ive lost so much 08.07.43 # both c and cpp 08.07.45 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.09.18 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 08.09.46 # now im readin back up on the books 08.14.10 # rocko: Did you ever have an actual question, or was that statement supposed to have suggested one? 08.14.19 # thank you 08.14.27 # perfect compile 08.14.30 # rocko: Because the manual does cover how to boot into the apple firmware. 08.14.48 # webguest92: Generally speaking, you shouldn't trust IE with anything. 08.15.04 # guess not......... 08.16.25 Quit webguest92 ("CGI:IRC") 08.26.31 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97C73.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.27.16 Quit zefie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.27.34 Join zefie [0] (i=UPP@24-105-220-68.cm.mhcable.com) 08.30.34 Join Redbreva [0] (n=chatzill@host86-144-107-44.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 08.36.41 # ie is awful. 09.05.54 Quit zefie (Nick collision from services.) 09.06.07 Join zefie [0] (i=UPP@24-105-220-68.cm.mhcable.com) 09.12.33 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.16.12 Join jenkins [0] (i=jenkins@c-67-160-201-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 09.16.50 # ok so i just installed rockbox on my 5th gen ipod video but its not booting into rockbox at all, can anyone give me some help please? 09.18.21 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 09.19.49 # i keep getting the rockboc error code -1 09.20.23 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-69-154-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 09.20.27 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 09.20.52 # You haven't followed the full instructions as they're written in the manual then 09.21.19 # i followed the installation instructions exactly 09.21.51 # No, you didn't if that's the error message you're getting. 09.21.56 # Where is your Rockbox.ipod file? 09.22.12 # you mean on my comp hard drive? 09.22.17 # No. 09.22.26 # Did you extract a rockbox.zip? 09.22.30 # im running windows so i cant see where it is 09.22.32 # yes 09.22.40 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.22.46 # No, windows doesn't hide any of the files we use... 09.23.11 # There should be a rockbox.ipod file in the root of your iPod, if you extracted rockbox.zip directly onto it. 09.23.38 # that might be the problem 09.23.39 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.24.05 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B95183.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.24.11 # What might be the problem? 09.24.17 # You didn't extract it directly onto the iPod? 09.24.21 # i didnt copy it onto my ipod 09.24.22 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 09.24.27 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.24.39 # So, yeah, the directions weren't followed fully. ;) 09.25.20 # ya i guess not 09.25.24 # thanks 09.25.27 # for the help 09.30.38 Part Llorean 09.31.01 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.31.27 Join lubiix908 [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 09.31.56 Quit kubiix (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.33.06 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Success) 09.33.47 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.37.26 Quit zefie (".UPP.") 09.37.46 Join Drkepilogue [0] (i=45e4aaff@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8f27b459216ed570) 09.37.59 # hey, i need help installing the bootloader for the ipod 2gmini 09.38.14 # it said that it wont install the bootloader unless it can ID it as ipod.. 09.38.21 # and my comp only ID my mini as a HD 09.38.26 # but itune read it just fine 09.38.41 # how do i get my comp to read it as an ipod and not a HD 09.39.11 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.39.26 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 09.39.30 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.42.50 # hey, i need help installing the bootloader for the ipod 2gmini 09.42.57 # it said that it wont install the bootloader unless it can ID it as ipod.. 09.43.13 # but itune read it just fine, so how do u get windows to read it as an ipod??? 09.43.34 # why can't it ID it as an ipod? 09.43.41 # i have no idea... 09.43.48 # did you even try? 09.43.50 # i dont have the driver??? 09.43.52 # yeah 09.43.58 # just because it shows up in explorer doesn't mean it isn't an iPod. :) 09.44.09 # it said, ipodpatcher not gonan install bootloader unless window ID it as ipod... 09.44.35 # what command did you enter? 09.45.02 # ipodpatcher 2 -a bootloader -ipodmini2g.ipod 09.45.16 # where'd you get "2"? 09.45.24 # from 09.45.29 # ipodpatcher --scan... 09.45.55 # ok.. i don't remember the steps to install, but that command looks wrong to me.. the first one. 09.46.06 Part jenkins 09.46.30 # ipodpatcher [device] -a bootloader-ipodXXXXX.ipod 09.46.37 # you have a space in there... 09.46.48 # between bootloader and ipodXXXXX.ipod. 09.46.48 # ooo... 09.46.51 # no space!!! 09.47.00 # there 09.47.03 # worked!! 09.47.05 # haha thanks!!! 09.47.11 # !!! 09.47.19 # silly meh... hehe.. 09.47.22 # ^^' 09.47.23 # cool, no problem.. always double-check those commands.. :) 09.47.31 # thanks 09.53.07 Quit Drkepilogue ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.03.37 Quit combrains (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.04.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.06.11 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.10.44 Quit BiptoN ("Leaving") 10.13.40 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964D50.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.15.19 Join nothlit_ [0] (n=nothlit@pcd551097.netvigator.com) 10.16.57 Quit nothlit (Nick collision from services.) 10.17.01 Nick nothlit_ is now known as nothlit (n=nothlit@pcd551097.netvigator.com) 10.27.02 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@host-84-9-15-114.bulldogdsl.com) 10.41.52 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp183-252.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net) 10.46.57 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.51.25 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 10.52.08 # * linuxstb installs medios on his av340 10.54.08 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 10.54.51 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@unaffiliated/desowin) 10.55.27 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 10.55.53 # Anyone know if the Gigabeat's remote is supposed to be fully functioning? 10.56.48 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.00.32 # linuxstb: So, how's MediOS? 11.00.51 # Nice, but feels very under-developed. 11.01.00 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 11.01.13 # I think there's only 3 developers in the project, and they support 5 or 6 devices. 11.01.18 # Aaah 11.01.56 # Kinda like the S1MP3 project. I'm not sure why they're trying to tackle everything themselves. 11.03.29 # I can understand why they started from scratch - their project started at a time when Rockbox only supported the Archos devices. It was _lots_ of work to make Rockbox more portable, and that work is still going on. 11.03.51 # Well, I was referring to S1MP3 with my "Not sure". They don't seem to have started yet. 11.04.20 # At least their status page indicates they're still deciding on a toolchain. 11.05.13 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host199-158-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.05.13 # I always liked rockbox though 11.05.15 # "public domain firmware" ??? 11.05.16 # for real. 11.05.19 # Does MediOS seem like something that would exist well parallel to Rb, like iPL? 11.05.34 # my ipod was so screwed up at one point 11.05.39 # rockbox saved it's life. 11.05.46 # Yes, but (like IPL), it doesn't do anything Rockbox couldn't. 11.06.12 # I <3 you guys to the grave 11.07.10 Quit midgey () 11.07.39 # But about the only thing it has that Rockbox doesn't is a NES emulator, and a Sega Master System / Game Gear emulator. It doesn't have an audio player. 11.08.04 # and xbox360 one ;-) 11.08.19 # I think I'll take an audio player over an NES emulator. 11.08.37 # But it does have a very different type of LCD to the other players - it has 2 video planes (YCrCb), two 256-colour bitmap planes and a cursor plane which are mixed in hardware. 11.08.58 Join drazen [0] (i=dcf5b286@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2fd7f4d241b0596) 11.08.59 # wow 11.09.18 # can you change the coords of the planes, to scroll stuff aronud smoothly? 11.09.21 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.09.28 # Mikachu: Yes. And zoom. 11.09.31 # neat 11.09.50 # hello guys is here some one who i could talk about how to install rick box on my 30gb ipod video 5.5g ? thanks 11.09.55 # I guess that's the main difference between medios and Rockbox - medios will support all that fancy GUI stuff. 11.10.05 # drazen: Where do you get stuck with the instructions? 11.10.18 # hehee 11.10.20 # rick box;P 11.10.40 # hehe geek geez 11.10.42 # Ohhh I got a question 11.10.43 # ;) 11.10.48 # damn. You need a bloody small screwdriver to get iHP-140 apart :( 11.10.53 # drazen: have you read the manual and the wiki? 11.10.56 # I thought I had one small enough, but sadly I don't 11.10.58 # GodEater: Yes, you do. :) 11.10.58 # I try to play mp3s off of my xbox 11.11.01 # xbox360* 11.11.04 # with rockbox 11.11.12 # GodEater: it's not that small;P 11.11.12 Join LennyBar [0] (n=lerow@247-71-118-80.kaptech.net) 11.11.19 # I need to replace the battery in mine - it's *completely* stuffed now. Won't hold any charge at all 11.11.34 # I miss my h120;/ 11.11.42 # GodEater: My ex-girlfriend's MP3 player had screws that small, but they were the security types with the small pin in the hole, so I had to get yet another screwdriver for it. 11.12.10 # is your H120 done up with Torx head ones ? 11.12.20 # I have a T6 torx driver - but it looks like I need a T4 11.12.25 # lord knows where I'll get one 11.12.29 # I could've sworn it was a T6... 11.12.41 # I know the H120 had screws I had one that fit already 11.12.54 # I just used small screwdrivers 11.12.55 # T6 is what I have and it most definitely doesn't fit 11.12.57 # flat ones 11.13.03 # But I've got a decent torx set that I already had lying around. I didn't really pay attention to which one it was. 11.13.10 # i read the manual and it totaly confused me 11.13.20 # linuxstb: So, do you have a plan to tackle the software/hardware playback question? 11.13.31 # drazen: then I'm really not sure you should try to install rockbox 11.13.31 # I've got T15 down to T6 11.13.33 # no offense 11.13.33 # but that's it 11.13.34 # drazen: How far can you get? 11.13.48 # am i supose to extract the files for the instalation on my pcs hard dis or on th eipods hard disk? 11.14.01 # GodEater: I ordered an iPod replacement battery, but apparently I'm too clumsy to be able to get the plastic connector off. 11.14.12 # drazen: It tells you which files go where... 11.14.12 # Llorean: The first plan is to port Rockbox as a hwcodec platform, and then take it from there. Similarly with the LCD, I'm just going to use a 2bpp bitmap mode, which happens to be an identical LCD format to the greyscale ipods. 11.14.20 # arghhhh 11.14.35 # it mixes C and F disks in the tutorialsss 11.14.40 # it won't hurt if you only put files on the ipod 11.14.55 # drazen: Are you reading the PDF manual? 11.14.55 # its diferant talking on the sites tutorial and on the pdf one 11.15.01 # Follow the PDF 11.15.18 # linuxstb: Ah, seems like a good plan. Especially if someone else finishes up the playback unification while you're busy doing other stuff 11.15.22 # drazen: The C: drive refers to the hard disk in your computer, the F: drive refers to the hard disk in your ipod. (but your ipod may be something different to F:) 11.15.28 Join rp- [0] (n=rp@193.154.222.107) 11.15.29 # i did it few times and i am allwas on rhe reboot geting error 1 11.15.43 # drazen: That's good - you're almost there. 11.15.44 # that means 11.15.44 # my ipods F 11.15.47 Quit LennyBar () 11.15.53 # you're missing the .ipod file 11.15.56 Join LennyBar [0] (n=lerow@247-71-118-80.kaptech.net) 11.15.57 # rockbox.ipod i think 11.16.07 Part LennyBar 11.16.16 # drazen: Read section 2.2.2 of the manual - you need to download the rockbox.zip and rockbox-fonts.zip files. 11.16.22 # which iPod battery did you get Llorean ? 11.16.49 # if I'm going to replace the battery, I might as well get a decent one that lasts longer than the stock one 11.16.49 # i have downloaded them 11.16.52 # assuming that's possible 11.16.56 # GodEater: I honestly can't remember any more. It's been sitting in a closet for 4 months now. :) 11.17.05 # drazen: needs to be on your ipod 11.17.09 # connect it to your computer 11.17.11 Part nothlit ("Leaving") 11.17.13 # make sure its in disk mode 11.17.16 # drazen: Now you need to extract them onto the F: drive. 11.17.36 # drazen: Making sure you you rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox folder at the top-level (root) of the F: drive. 11.17.40 # GodEater: You should be able to get a 2100mAh battery that'll work wonderfully. Just get one for a Generation 1/2 iPod and switch the positive and negative wires in the connector. 11.17.45 # in the rockbox folder right? 11.17.52 # drazen: No. 11.17.56 # omg 11.18.02 # get the rockbox.ipod file 11.18.04 # just in the F disk 11.18.07 # and put it on F: 11.18.09 # then 11.18.10 # There should be ".rockbox" (notice the dot at the start) folder and a rockbox.ipod file. 11.18.15 # open up the zip archive 11.18.16 # Llorean: cool - I'll have a look for one 11.18.19 # and extract the contents to F: 11.18.23 # and like linux said 11.18.26 Quit trypee (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.18.27 # is the +ve/-ve swap hard ? 11.18.28 # there'll be a .rockbox folder 11.18.34 # and rockbox.ipod on F: 11.18.41 # ok 11.18.54 # what do i do withe the fonts? 11.19.00 # GodEater: I think lots of people have done it, so I doubt it's that hard. 11.19.15 # you open up the zip file 11.19.15 # hope not - I've got fat fingers 11.19.20 # then extract it out to F: 11.19.24 # like the rockbox zip file 11.19.36 # GodEater: I've heard it's relatively easy. I apparently just really suck at it. 11.19.41 # if done correctly, it'll say .rockbox already exists 11.19.52 # then say yes and it'll chuck all the font files in the right place 11.19.57 # it want to raplace the one i have allready .rockbox folder ? 11.20.08 # Llorean: well if I screw it up I shall commiserate with you ;) 11.20.10 # yeh 11.20.12 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@85-99.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 11.20.13 # drazen: It will just add the fonts to it. 11.20.20 # Hello 11.20.28 # ooo cool i tought he wants too replace it all 11.20.38 # it only says that 11.20.43 # so is it yes or yes to alll 11.20.43 # because it has .rockbox 11.20.48 # yes to all 11.20.58 # ok 11.20.58 # the folder names are the same so it thinks you're replacing 11.21.23 # good its all in side with the fonts 11.21.32 # then disconnect 11.21.35 # it 11.21.37 # ...safely 11.21.44 # ok 11.21.48 # by right click eject.. 11.21.54 # or by using the icon in the task bar 11.22.08 # GodEater: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2006-11/0481.shtml 11.22.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp163-67.adsl.forthnet.gr) 11.22.50 # omg i love you its working ^_^ 11.23.05 # thanks guys 11.23.49 # one more question is it posible to increase the font size its a bit too small ? 11.23.57 # you can change the font 11.24.00 # by going to um 11.24.03 # General Settings i think 11.24.06 # Browse Fonts 11.24.13 # Press MENU to enter the main menu, then something like General Settings -> Display -> Browse fonts 11.24.16 # *turns on ipod to check* 11.24.23 # yeh Menu 11.24.26 # then General Settings 11.24.33 # Display 11.24.35 # Browse Fonts 11.24.49 # otherwise you can try installing a WPS that would have a nice font 11.25.11 # Llorean: I've ordered a 1st/2nd Gen iPod 2200mah battery 11.25.15 # Yes, better option is to select "Browse Themes" and choose a new theme - maybe iCatcher. 11.25.15 # I'll let you know how I get on 11.25.18 # thanks i am so happy i got it working 11.25.23 # * GodEater goes to find a bloody small screwdriver next 11.25.31 # GodEater: any idea what the stock battery is rated at 11.25.37 # decayedcell: 1300 11.25.39 # 1300mah 11.25.46 # whoa GG lol 11.25.47 # according to the label on the back 11.25.53 # hmm 11.26.08 # The 2200 will give you a playtime somewhere in the "ridiculous" range 11.26.19 # well a battery bench should be enough to prove or disprove that figure 11.26.22 # :) 11.26.23 # where did you get it from eBay? 11.26.28 # or ipodmods.com or something 11.26.28 # speaking of... 11.26.30 # ipoddoctor.co.uk 11.26.41 # hmm 11.26.42 Part decayedcell 11.26.43 # Llorean: have you tried a bench with your gigabeat? 11.26.49 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp183-252.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net) 11.26.52 # oops 11.26.52 # scorche: Not yet, no. 11.26.54 # wrong button 11.26.55 # ummmmmm 11.27.04 # how do see my songs ? 11.27.06 # Llorean: how much did you end up finding one for? 11.27.09 # *i 11.27.16 # drazen: read the manual and FAQ 11.27.20 # ok 11.27.21 # $160 locally from Craigslist. 11.27.24 # drazen: See the Database section in the manual - I think it's 4.2 11.27.46 # drazen: The FAQ is also helpful - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 11.27.51 # 15~ quid 11.27.51 # not bad 11.27.52 # thanks guys once more you really helped my , have a nice day or night where ever you are 11.29.26 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.29.31 # * GodEater hopes the screwdriver arrives at the same time as the battery 11.29.52 # you ordered a self install kit? 11.29.57 # yep 11.29.59 # well 11.29.59 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 11.30.06 # I ordered a battery without the fitting service 11.30.10 # if that's what you mean 11.30.10 Quit drazen ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.30.11 # scorche: I'm rather liking it. I wanted a 40gb player anyway, my original plan had been to get a new drive for the H120, but a new player was hard to resist since I was already spending some money. 11.30.32 # GodEater: and that means you get a screwdriver with the battery? 11.30.48 # Llorean: and from what it looks like, it is a nice unit 11.31.07 # decayedcell: no ordered it seperately 11.31.15 # from a completely different site 11.31.19 # lol 11.31.21 # where? 11.31.22 # scorche: Honestly, at this point if someone asked me what Rockbox to buy, I'd say F40 is a solid choice. 11.31.38 # mobilefun.co.uk 11.31.45 # Though it'll be nicer once a few minor irritations are gone: The backlight fading is constant right now, and there's a major quirk with the remote 11.31.55 # Llorean: aye...if i were to upgrade though, it would likely be an archos 304 though 11.32.01 # my F40 should turn up soon too 11.32.16 # For some strange reason, if the main unit has Hold set, if you change volume on the remote, it gets queued up, and when you take hold off, the volume finally changes. 11.32.33 # GodEater: 2200 is the highest one you could find for the 1-2nd Gen right haha 11.32.33 # Meanwhile Pause works, with about a 2-second delay. 11.32.40 # decayedcell: yep 11.32.49 # scorche: 304? 11.33.06 # and ipoddoctor has the highest 11.33.09 # for all models? 11.33.13 # linuxstb: or 404....i forgot which device, but the one you are working on is in my head =P 11.33.17 # * decayedcell interested in longer battery life 11.33.54 # decayedcell: no idea - I only wanted a new battery for the H140 11.33.59 # I've not bothered looking anywhere else 11.34.23 # GodEater: I think I've heard of them going up to 2650, maybe. 11.34.39 # But there's been some question of the highest capacity ones not quite fitting. 11.34.44 # I could drive to Scotland and back on that! 11.35.19 # 2650 Oo 11.35.38 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.36.02 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 11.36.55 # what voltage are the batteries? 11.37.05 # 3.7V 11.37.10 # for the 1-2 Gen i think 11.37.34 # so about 35.3kJ 11.38.04 # think I bought my original set of torx heads for chipping my xbox 11.38.19 # just a shame they don't go down to T4 11.39.51 # Mikachu: thinking of heating a coffee or something hehe 11.39.55 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.40.13 # no, just interested in how much energy it contains, not those random numbers they're labeled with :) 11.40.51 Join drazen [0] (i=dcf5b286@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cabad46c8cd27df9) 11.40.51 # R 12121 Shiny new Minesweeper color bitmaps. 11.40.53 # lol... 11.41.00 # nice rev number 11.41.07 # hmm no SVN Bot on this channel 11.41.15 # hi guys i have just one more question, how do i start the ipod software ? 11.41.25 # shut down the ipod in rockbox 11.41.28 # by holding on Play 11.41.33 # drazen: you already said "just one more", how can we trust you this time? :P 11.41.37 # then to run the apple firmware 11.41.44 # press menu/select 11.41.46 # and hold on to menu 11.41.56 # keep holding until it says Loading original firmware... 11.42.05 # takes a couple shots to get it right 11.42.16 # drazen: i told you before to read the manual and FAQ....do it please 11.42.22 # decayedcell: half right 11.42.25 # is it posible to make th eapple one start by just turning on the ipod and the rock box one by menu/select? 11.42.28 # decayedcell: With the modern bootloader, you can just turn on the ipod, then immediately turn on the hold switch. 11.42.31 # drazen: no 11.42.31 # decayedcell: there is a much easier way... 11.42.40 # * decayedcell is listening 11.42.44 # drazen: everyone wants to use rockbox by default 11.42.57 # decayedcell: see Llorean's line 11.43.01 # drazen: If you can program, it's an easy change. But the official version works that way, because Rockbox is for people who actually want to use Rockbox. 11.43.13 # ok 11.43.15 # drazen: Normally the Apple firmware doesn't fully shutdown your ipod, it just sleeps. So if you shutdown in the Apple firmware, when you next turn it on, it should just wake up in the Apple firmware. 11.43.21 # thanks once more 11.43.26 # bye guys 11.43.36 # have fun ^_^ 11.43.51 # bugger 11.43.52 # lol 11.43.56 # but 11.44.05 # it keeps rebooting my ipod when it gets to loading original firmware... 11.44.05 # decayedcell: please try to form coherent sentences 11.44.15 # okay then sorry 11.44.23 Part pixelma 11.44.23 Quit drazen (Client Quit) 11.44.27 # decayedcell: What model iPod do you have? 11.44.37 # 30GB 5.5G Video 11.44.40 # decayedcell: Does it do that with both the Hold switch and the MENU option? 11.45.13 # * decayedcell testing 11.46.08 # linuxstb: yes 11.46.22 # but I don't recall this happening in previous versions 11.47.11 # linuxstb: how well do you think it would be able to handle various codecs with its comparatively slow processor? (ignoring mp3 of course) 11.47.12 # decayedcell: I think it's an ipodpatcher bug. You need to restore a clean firmware partition image to your ipod and then run ipodpatcher again. 11.47.34 # hmm okay 11.47.49 # scorche: I'm only interested in FLAC myself, and that should be fine. I think other codecs will struggle though unless we start using the DSP. 11.47.57 # [11:44:07] it keeps rebooting my ipod when it gets to loading original firmware... <- are you using COP patch ? 11.48.05 # would it possibly have anything to do with LinusN's ATA fixes as per FS6549 11.48.13 # desowin: yes i'm using cop 6 patch 11.48.22 # it acts the same here 11.48.26 # desowin: but it was fine a few days ago 11.48.30 # linuxstb: what about ogg? (just a prediction of course) 11.48.33 # decayedcell: I'm guessing you upgraded your ipod using ipodpatcher though, without removing the old bootloader? 11.48.50 # linuxstb: I upgraded both rockbox firmware and bootloader at the same time 11.49.13 # scorche: High bitrate vorbis struggles on the ipods, so it will definitely struggle on the av300. The CPU will be slower as there is no cache, and a limited (32KB) amount of IRAM. 11.49.19 # decayedcell: The firmware wouldn't be able to prevent Apple OS from loading, but an improperly installed bootloader would easily explain it. 11.49.21 # linuxstb: also, is there more or less overhead with that screen? (i am not that well versed in controlling the lcd) 11.49.40 # no cache?...hmph 11.50.37 # scorche: It's less overhead than most targets - there is no lcd_update() function to call, you just tell the LCD controller where in SDRAM the various video buffers are. 11.51.04 # * dan_a has another theory about what might cause the PP5020 lockups with boosting 11.51.17 # dan_a: New theories are good things! 11.51.50 # * linuxstb waits.... 11.53.54 # There is a 2ms delay after changing the PLL to allow it to settle, but we don't turn off IRQs while we change the PLL. The IRQ handler can have a different clock source to the normal code, and we never set that. If an interrupt happens in those 2ms, it could be running using the PLL clock while it is unstable 11.54.23 # Does that sound like a viable theory? 11.54.40 # if you turn off interrupts, can you miss button presses? 11.54.46 # (better than locking up i guess) 11.56.11 # I guess the only thing to do is patch and find out! 11.56.15 # I could live with a missed button press for 2 whole ms 11.56.55 # it's obviously no problem if it gets picked up after 2ms, i mean if it's missed completely it could get annoying 11.57.37 # I still think you'd be pretty unlucky to miss a button press inside of a 2ms gap 11.57.39 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-144-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 11.57.48 # I imagine my presses last longer than 2ms 11.58.00 # dan_a: I'm pretty sure I've tried disabling interrupts, but please try again. You may also need to disable the FIQ, but if you do that, you'll get audio glitches when the CPU speed changes... 11.58.11 Quit anathema (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.58.22 # The better solution is to use hcs's approach, which seems to work for me. He sets the PLL once, and just switches between the 24MHz clock and the PLL 11.58.47 # It would be nice to confirm interrupts are the problem though. 11.58.53 Join mathgl [0] (n=mathgl@shm67-4-82-242-213-244.fbx.proxad.net) 11.59.42 # I liked hcs's patch, but 24MHz is too slow for most codecs. 12.00.01 # (I think it's fine for FLAC though...) 12.00.21 # We should be able to use a 33MHz clock instead of 24MHz, but I've not managed to make that work yet 12.00.28 # If we get COP working better, 24mhz might not be so bad any more. 12.00.48 # Or 33 for that matter. 12.01.33 # I did manage to get the 32kHz clock to work, but the interface was... erm... sluggish. 12.02.06 # Somehow I imagine that's a bit of an impressive understatement. 12.02.19 Join buzzzzzzz [0] (i=dcf5b286@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f48e29793fff0e20) 12.03.01 # Yep ;) 12.04.15 # lack of TLA knowledge alert!! Someone care to enlighten me on what PLL and FIQ stand for ? 12.04.44 # GodEater: PLL is a type of clock (Phase Locked Loop) 12.04.45 # www.wikipedia.com =) 12.04.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.05.01 # (saves the embarrassment) 12.05.10 # I have no shame :) 12.05.11 # GodEater: FIQ is the fast interrupt on ARM processors. 12.05.32 # is the q queue? 12.06.01 # wikipedia was not helpful, Fdration Internationale des Quilleurs (FIQ) or International Bowling Federation 12.06.13 # heheh 12.06.34 Join fejfighter [0] (n=jeffro21@d220-236-147-216.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.06.59 # hi guys, where can i download rockboy ? 12.07.17 # buzzzzzzz: you dont need to 12.07.24 # if your player supports it, you have it 12.07.46 # i have video ipod 12.07.58 # is it in plugins? 12.08.05 # then you have it...i suggest you read the manual for usage 12.08.20 # i thought the read the manual line was going to kick in somewhere 12.08.59 # i have rockbox and rock paint but no rockboy? 12.09.07 # *blox 12.09.12 # buzzzzzzz: did you read the manual already? 12.09.19 # yes 12.09.19 # that was fast.. 12.09.21 # clearly not 12.09.39 # it just says the rock boy version and the playing comands 12.09.49 # i have the pdf manual 12.09.53 # it also describes what a viewer 12.09.54 # is 12.10.00 # as compared with a plugin 12.10.18 # buzzzzzzz: if you have a .gb file on your ipod, how do you think you start the game? 12.10.27 # why it isnt explaind in the plugin sextion of the rockboy ? 12.10.37 # buzzzzzzz: because it isnt a plugin... 12.10.42 # *section 12.10.44 # please just read it again 12.10.52 # oh ok 12.12.29 Quit buzzzzzzz ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.13.03 # how come all the silly users are from australia? :) 12.13.16 # * scorche look at JdGordon 12.13.25 # the inverse statement may not be true 12.13.31 # s/look/looks 12.13.55 # hmm? 12.14.27 # which silly user was aussie? 12.14.28 # merry belated australia day btw JdGordon 12.14.35 # yay australia day! 12.14.39 # it was australia day yesterday give us a rest were still hungover 12.14.45 # buzzzzzzz and the one before him 12.14.52 # * JdGordon did absolutly nothing yesterday :p 12.15.06 # aww 12.15.10 # not even a barbeque? 12.15.11 # I managed to celebrate it (hangover and all) and I'm not even australian ;) 12.15.15 # nup not even 12.15.21 # well done 12.15.22 # in true aussie fashion jdGordon -relax 12.15.25 # listen to the hottest 100? 12.15.26 # thanks ;) 12.15.28 # exactly! 12.15.40 # aliask: im a metal ead.. i stay clear of the radio 12.15.45 # depends on how you define aussie fashion... 12.15.55 # fejfighter its what 10:20 now lol 12.16.00 # how can you still be hungover 12.16.03 # yeah i know 12.16.15 # kickon till teh next day :P 12.16.19 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.175.229) 12.16.49 # Yeah, there aren't many metal stations at all, JJJ is the closest, and it's barely it at all. 12.17.12 # I just got my fix at trivium, i know not everyone likes them but it was good 12.17.38 # did they play their new cd? 12.17.50 # * JdGordon cant stand it... their old stuff is 100x better 12.17.59 # not all of it, like 3 songs, it felt like a short set 12.18.15 # played heaps of ascendancy so it was good 12.18.54 # * decayedcell eyes silly users from Australia comment :p 12.19.20 # hmm we may have taken over now... 12.19.42 # well theres still 128 odd of other people in this channel 12.19.59 # but the aussies have spoken up 12.20.03 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@170.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 12.20.11 # and become 'active' 12.20.31 # true 12.20.49 # and before this happened 12.21.00 # they were getting into hardcore talk about PLLs and stuff 12.21.15 # Hello, i have messed up my partition table. Could someone with linux and an ipod send me the output of fdisk /dev/ : p (to print the table)? 12.21.21 # well, that IS what this channel is for... 12.21.35 # (ipod 5g, video 30 GB) 12.21.37 # freqmod: there are mbr sectors for all ipods on rockbox.org 12.21.38 # yes I was trying to say 12.21.42 # thx 12.21.52 # that us aussies blabbering about something else wasn't entirely appropriate 12.22.04 # given the level of technical talk that was going on 12.22.32 # yep sorry 12.22.44 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.23.00 # do you know where? 12.23.08 # mikachu: ^ 12.23.17 # * fejfighter goes to create a aussie and rockbox irc channel 12.23.29 # there is rockbox-community already 12.23.52 # how is that turning out anyway? 12.24.02 # there is 4 of us in there now 12.24.08 # * JdGordon only just joined tho 12.24.16 # freqmod: not exactly 12.24.33 # freqmod: The Installation from OSX page. 12.24.36 # JdGordon: so slightly better than the last attempt? =P 12.24.38 # Go through IpodInstallationBeta 12.24.43 # ok 12.24.49 # Look for the converting to Fat32 bit 12.26.58 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 12.28.01 # freqmod: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ (for the MBRs) - just "dd" it to (for example) /dev/sda, then unplug your ipod and reattach so Linux re-reads the partition table. 12.28.08 # done 12.28.14 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.28.36 # however it seems like my fat fs is damaged too :(, well well, i have most of the files on my pc 12.29.25 Part Llorean 12.31.11 Quit wooo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.31.14 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 12.31.18 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.32.27 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@170.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 12.33.14 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 12.33.14 # how do I unlock a SVN directory 12.33.23 # svn: Can't open file 'firmware/target/arm/archos/.svn/lock' 12.34.30 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.10 # decayedcell: i read your comments on fs about my bootloader changes 12.35.24 # but i'm able to build for the ipods you mentioned just fine here... 12.35.39 # hmm 12.35.50 # which version of the patch did you use? did you patch against clean svn? 12.35.57 # V6 12.36.07 # i have also the cop 6 patch 12.36.22 # currently i'm nuking my rockbox source 12.36.25 # and downloading a fresh copy 12.36.43 # can you test with v6 against a clean svn when you get a chance? 12.36.49 # sure no problem 12.37.00 # it builds the normal build fine 12.37.07 # it just has trouble when building the bootloader 12.37.28 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.39.53 Join subson [0] (n=ju@82.67.68.29) 12.40.34 # that's strange. must be the cop6 patch 12.40.39 # also barry, I believe the cop 6 patch is broken from revision 12120 12.40.48 # i'm gonna update that now :) 12.40.50 # playback.c appears to be modified 12.40.53 # cheers 12.44.27 Join Kitt0s [0] (i=Kaa@87.68.19.8.cable.012.net.il) 12.46.08 # i must be missing something, where is /what number is the cop patch 12.46.56 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@170.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 12.46.58 # fejfighter: Scroll down the page on flyspray - you'll see various versions of the patch, the last one is v6. 12.46.59 # FS5755 12.47.18 # barrywardell says he's updating it right now 12.47.25 # so I'd wait for v7 xD 12.47.45 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.48.06 # thanks, i just want to read it for the moment 12.49.24 # llinuxstb: i just didnt know where the page was, have no problem with the comments and adding new versions in comments 12.50.47 # and in the end, i find out that i have alread seen that page, now know what cop means, and realise it doesnt affect me in the slightest 12.51.06 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 12.51.17 # fejfighter what player do you have 12.51.43 # H300 12.52.08 # cool 12.52.39 # yeah, not affecting me now, possibly in the future though 12.53.21 # upgrading to an ipod maybe? 12.53.58 # might get one for my bro, or when i decide that the h340 is too bulky 12.54.37 Quit Kittt0s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.54.56 # geez im hoples today off topic again :( 12.55.08 # hmm arm-elf-ar: Command not found 12.55.13 # anyone have an idea lol? 12.55.28 # Either you haven't installed the compiler, or it's not in your PATH. 12.55.58 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 12.58.17 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 13.00.36 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 13.01.40 Quit The-Compiler (Remote closed the connection) 13.06.59 # bx r2; will change to thumb mode depending on the value in register r2? 13.07.12 # configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables 13.07.16 # bloody hell 13.07.25 # just took one step back >< 13.07.39 # yep, australians 13.07.46 # >< 13.07.55 # either that 13.08.04 # or the CrossCompiler instructions aren't AustralianProof 13.08.31 # as soon as you make instructions australian proof, they invent a better australian 13.08.32 # rp-: It will branch to the address in R2, and change to thumb mode if that address isn't 32 bit aligned (I think) 13.08.55 # haha 13.08.56 # dan_a: thx 13.09.08 # anyway barry it looks like i'll only be able to compile tomorrow 13.09.20 # unless I boot into Windows 13.09.23 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.09.24 # but I need to sleep 13.09.27 # decayedcell: i can provide a compiled version if you want to test that;) 13.09.43 # i thought the instructions were aussie proof, use rockboxdev.sh 13.09.54 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 13.09.57 # fejfighter i like doing it the hard way 13.10.19 # theres one problem with the script 13.10.27 # what? 13.10.33 # theres a check to see if you have the gcc etc files already 13.10.38 # and if you do have them it'll stop downloading 13.10.52 # however, before that it checks if theres build-rb and those directories 13.10.59 # and if they are there it'll want you to nuke them 13.11.05 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.215.247) 13.11.14 # so technically you can't put predownloaded gcc and stuff into those folders to skip the downloading process 13.11.25 # how is that a problem, if they are corrupted delete them 13.11.34 # they're not corrupted 13.11.42 # mm ok, it worked for me 13.11.48 # its just annoying to sit here waiting for it to download 13.12.06 # the script needs to be modified to not go into the loop i described earlier 13.12.18 # so yes it probably would be better if i just ran the script 13.12.24 # but i need to learn how to build the toolchain manually 13.12.30 # well i don't need to i just want to :p 13.12.46 # anyway night all 13.12.52 # goonight 13.12.53 # barry email it to me 13.13.05 Part decayedcell 13.13.07 # decayedcell: do you have CFLAGS set in your environment? 13.15.30 Quit freqmod ("Konversation terminated!") 13.15.30 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A965E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.16.33 Quit JoeBorn ("I really must go!") 13.16.57 # how badly should I try to save space? http://rafb.net/p/gk15I990.html < char* desc there is not used when the void* variable is used, but that option is probaly going to be used 80% of the time 13.17.08 # should i bother trying to move it somehow? 13.18.22 # dan_a: do you know what address 0x7000C000 is doing on the sansa? 13.18.46 # JdGordon: you could make them a union 13.18.47 # ? 13.18.50 # rp-: It sounds familiar, let me just check 13.19.11 # dan_a: it's near the I2C controller i think 13.19.51 # pondlife: linuxstb: I've posted some initial design thoughts on the wiki for MoB 13.20.14 # Cool 13.20.24 # Will take a look later this afternoon 13.20.41 # rp-: firmware/drivers/i2c-pp5020.c:#define IPOD_I2C_BASE 0x7000c000 13.20.44 # it's kinda a hybrid of what I did before, what lowlight's done and things added based on discussions. 13.21.24 # dan_a: that #define should probably be moved to pp5020.h... 13.21.49 # would be bad, cause my first look was at the .h file 13.21.52 # Bagder: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebChanges TWiki Installation Error 13.22.02 # barrywardell: Yes, and the C code into the target tree 13.22.13 # dan_a: i think the power of of the sans is done by i2c then 13.22.18 # +f 13.22.22 # Mikachu: well, the char* is needed for every case except the vairable.. so putting it in the union wont help 13.22.24 # I'm not touching any code until my hangover goes away though 13.22.47 # JdGordon: i know, i had another thought but then i realized that wouldn't work either 13.23.12 # im thinking about putting each of those union options into a struct * and putting that char in each.. but that will be annoying 13.23.13 # dan_a: haha. i can move it-no hangover here! 13.23.15 Part pondlife ("lunch") 13.23.15 # JdGordon: you could have a separate struct type for each of the cases in the union 13.23.33 # snap :p 13.23.42 # is there some example in the rockbox code on how to use the i2c bus? 13.24.09 # i guess in the ipod code :) 13.24.47 # rp-: Can you tell if it's talking to I2C address 0x70? 13.24.59 Quit fejfighter () 13.25.02 # The iPod touchwheel is on the I2C bus 13.25.19 # rp-: the h10 rtc code has it...firmware/drivers/rtc/rtc_e8564.c 13.25.48 # h300 rtc as well 13.27.02 # rp-: and the code in pcf50605.c 13.27.17 # dan_a: yes i think so, i'm disassembling the bootloader and there is a output "system shutdown" then a 2sec wait and after that it seems there is something done with the 0x70.. address 13.27.26 # barrywardell: thx 13.27.42 # are structs packed by default in rockbox? or are they aligned somehow? 13.28.56 # rp-: 0x70 is the I2C address of the AS3514 - which has the power controller built in. It would be really good if we could get software power off working 13.29.08 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54930E8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.30.39 # dan_a: a very good, i hope we get the datasheets, it looks like many things are done by the AS3514 13.30.46 # amiconn: do you know if 2 shorts will work out the same size as 1 int? 13.30.53 # ... in a struct 13.31.38 # rp-: It sounds like you're getting fairly close even without the datasheet 13.32.50 # dan_a: if i can get behind, what in de registers is and what i have write to them... i will try a little bit 13.33.44 # dan_a: by the way i don't think the backlight is controlled by any GPIO, i tried most of them out and i had no results 13.34.35 # rp-: I've just been looking over old mails, and the backlight is controlled by the AS3514 - so it will be an I2C command to turn it off 13.35.04 # i thought that 13.36.03 # Have you had a look at the Rockbox function pp_i2c_send_bytes? 13.36.17 # is it possible that the cpu could be slowed down by any GPIO port? 13.36.24 # looking at it right now 13.39.31 # rp-: i experienced slowdown when changing some GPIO on my H10. i don't think it was the cpu though. it only happened during disk access 13.43.24 # barrywardell: i can't say if it was the cpu speed, but the lcd update was very slow and any input with the wheel 13.43.52 Quit Slasheri (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13.45.25 # i don't think cpu speed would be controlled by gpio. it's probably something else, but i could be wrong 13.47.29 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 13.47.37 # pointers arent 16bit on all targets are they? that would make things easy :p 13.55.24 # pointers aren't 16-bit on any of the current targets. 13.56.41 # I know... if they were i could fiddle 13.58.27 # is this trcut going to be ineffienct to access? http://rafb.net/p/r2sDTL20.html 13.59.20 # the 2nd union s what im really worried about... it makes the whole thing 4 bytes smaller, but adds the struct for maybe 30% of menu items 14.00.48 # where can i get help for ipod ?:\ non-rockbox related 14.01.02 Join brainiac_ghost [0] (i=brainiac@evangilion.brainiacghost.co.uk) 14.03.21 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.04.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.06.00 # Kitt0s: Maybe ilounge.com 14.07.32 # barrywardell: I hope your COP patch was synced to SVN, not CVS... 14.08.02 # linuxstb: haha, yes. synced to cvs 14.08.13 # i mean svn 14.08.22 # :) 14.08.38 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m204.net81-65-15.noos.fr) 14.14.05 Join d16174l4n63l [0] (i=92ba6c47@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0e7b111fd6f04af9) 14.14.58 # curiousity, anyone on developing for the Sansa e200 on? 14.15.01 # when i push both the next and previous button on ipod.. and hold it for a few seconds.. should it give me some diagnostics window or something? 14.15.22 # d16174l4n63l: yes 14.16.20 # when space is reserved for a const'ed struct, is it just the sum of the vars? or is it + ..? 14.16.25 # got a couple min for me to pick your brain barry 14.16.46 # go ahead. 14.16.46 # barrywardell: force him to change his nick first :p 14.18.38 # I've had this nick for year man 8)... Anyway, so I have been checking out the refrence documentation for the current Sansa buld mainly just playing with the graphics. The guide say 16, however when I modded the origional firmware with HMOD. It seems to accept 24 bit color <== Mostly a theme'r these daydays. Is that an imposed limit of RockBox which I think is really awsome BTW, or is it more or less th 14.20.18 # H3Mod accepts 24 bit color, but converts it to 16 bit for use on the Sansa 14.20.33 # so it's an imposed limit of the lcd in the Sansa 14.21.14 # I see, that makes alot of sense. 14.24.37 # so H3MOD makes the conversion over to 16. This has beena puzzle for me, I bought a sansa e250 and after doing some H3MOD stuff with it, and working on a new bookmark set for the current firmware, It definitly holds the illusion of 24 bit when you get down to the images it uses 8) 14.25.12 # and Yes I have RB as my maina nd am just tweaking for now out of curiousity. Can't wait for play support 14.26.24 # well, anyway I am at work and all TYVM for the answer. Hats off to you developers out there. I may come back soon 8) cheers! 14.26.28 Quit d16174l4n63l ("CGI:IRC") 14.27.23 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.35.21 Quit pixelma (" bbl") 14.35.53 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@e177167129.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.37.58 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.215.247) 14.38.53 Quit Thundercloud (Dead socket) 14.44.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.44.29 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848B11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.45.02 Quit brainiac_ghost (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.45.02 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.45.02 Quit wooo (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.45.02 Quit Rob222241 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.45.02 Quit efyx (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.53 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.47.53 NJoin brainiac_ghost [0] (i=brainiac@evangilion.brainiacghost.co.uk) 14.47.53 NJoin wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 14.47.53 NJoin Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16240.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.47.53 NJoin efyx [0] (n=efyx@fac34-5-82-239-138-213.fbx.proxad.net) 14.51.23 Join Womble2 [0] (n=womble@shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk) 14.52.04 # Bug 6513, "the keys don't work on h10" - closed because apparently it's a "support question" 14.52.22 # Well, I have the same bug/question. Is there an answer? 14.54.00 # Womble2: Do you have the latest RB version and Bootloader? .... And hold deactivated? ;) 14.54.06 # Womble2: do the keys not work at all? 14.55.32 # Arathis: Latest, yes. 14.55.37 # barrywardell: None - not even power. 14.55.58 # does anything happen when you switch hold on/off? 14.56.01 # and it's not on hold 14.56.31 # no, no change 14.56.52 # does the backlight stay on all the time? or does it change when you press a button? 14.57.08 # It seems to stay on. How soon should it turn off? 14.57.42 # Actually, let me correct myself, it's actually stopping at the flash screen. There's no folder view. 14.57.49 # Womble2: standard backlight shutdown time is 5s 14.58.15 # Then it's staying on. 14.58.17 # what screen has it stopped at? 14.58.24 # what does it say on the screen? 14.58.28 # The one with the Rockbox logo. 14.58.45 # "Ver: CVS-061218" (yes, I know, but that's what was in the "latest" zip file) 14.59.05 # where did you download the file from 14.59.10 # you need a newer version 14.59.27 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/h10_5gb/rockbox-h10_5gb.zip 15.00.12 # what bootloader did you download. that might need to be newer too 15.00.26 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/iriver/H10.mi4 15.01.14 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 15.01.27 # Is it possible that the files for download aren't being updated properly? 15.01.27 # What player exactly do you have? 5/6GB? MTP/UMS? 15.01.37 # H10 6GB with UMS firmware. 15.02.46 # The path you used for download seems to be out of date. At least since rockbox uses SVN the path is http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-h10_5gb/rockbox.zip 15.02.47 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.03.09 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 15.03.23 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host199-158-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.03.36 # The best way is to go through the main page and click "SVN builds" or at least "daily builds" 15.04.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml links to the file on download.rockbox.org 15.04.52 # Womble2: can you try the build that Arathis pointed out and see if it works? 15.05.01 # Yes, I'm trying it 15.05.21 # How about the H10.mi4 file? 15.06.21 # i can provide an up to date one if the other rockbox build doesn't work 15.06.36 # Works! 15.07.01 # Well thanks a lot. It's just that index page that's broken. 15.07.12 # sounds like the daily build isn't getting updated 15.08.59 # oh, didn't noticed it was a daily build .... 15.10.11 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fabb0.pool.einsundeins.de) 15.10.21 Quit Wiwie (Client Quit) 15.10.36 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fabb0.pool.einsundeins.de) 15.11.13 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.215.247) 15.11.37 Part Womble2 15.15.09 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 15.16.44 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.175.229) 15.19.05 # what do people thing about adding a portalplayer directory to the arm target tree? 15.25.05 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.26.33 # what is portalplayer? (i guess that question automatically throws out my vote) 15.26.41 # heh 15.27.24 # chipset? 15.27.37 # chipset used in ipod, h10, sansa 15.27.48 Nick barrywardell_ is now known as barrywardell (n=barrywar@194.46.175.229) 15.27.58 # hence the PP prefix.. i didn't know what it stood for. 15.28.35 # yes 15.30.38 # its sounds like a good idea, but would you alsa create dirs for each unique vendor's chips? 15.31.11 # s/alsa/also/ 15.31.44 # is there a difference between ADD R1, R0, #0 and MOV R1, R0 ? 15.31.55 # i'm talking about ARM asm 15.32.00 # I wish my ipod would die so i would be forced to buy a new player.. 15.32.24 # is the ADD maybe faster? 15.32.36 # tanq: there are already dirs for iriver, ipod, sansa 15.33.28 # Bagder: the build table doesn't deal too well with moved files 15.35.20 # barrywardell: i meant for the suppliers chips not for the hardware that uses it. 15.36.10 # s/hardware/higher assembly part/ 15.36.20 # tanq: i guess we would. pp is the only one that is needed for the moment though 15.38.14 # man i want to put a color lcd in my 4g, but my hard drive seems to be struggling at times. That together equals a new player.. 15.38.26 # but the harddrive just won't die... 15.38.28 # heh. 15.38.59 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 15.39.18 # have you tried dropping it from a tall building ;) 15.39.46 # no.. 15.40.00 # it's a thought though.. 15.40.22 # I can get that warning folder a lot that tells you to go to apple support. 15.40.32 Join Sn0w [0] (i=415c3249@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d0757b357855b034) 15.41.01 # dmesg usually gives me some error about FAT: filesystem panic after a while 15.41.22 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 15.41.38 # panic on the danceplatter 15.41.55 # heh 15.42.11 # maybe you should run fsck.vfat on it 15.42.21 # barrywardell: any luck finding out what causes the e200 to "freeze" I can confirm that the build from 1/23/07 does not freeze, I reversed the changes made by Nils Wallménius at 23 Jan 15:43 concerning powering down the disk,I'll keep crawling up the committs till i find it either way 15.42.43 # Mikachu: the problem is deeper than that. 15.43.25 # barrywardell: but it still freezes 15.43.39 # i've fsck'd the disk a dozen times.. it will fix some things temporarily. I'm pretty sure the drive is bad. 15.43.56 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 15.44.29 # Mikachu: I had ipodlinux installed on this a long while back way before the 4g ipod was supported. And I'm pretty sure some events that occurred during that use caused it. 15.44.37 # lostlogic: around? 15.44.50 # foolsh: dan_a was working on it 15.44.52 # actually i'm not even sure if the 4g is supported by that project yet.. 15.46.17 # foolsh: we suspect the freeze only happens on aligned writes 15.46.51 # barrywardell: from the optimized ata driver? 15.47.05 # i thought the e200 didn't use that 15.47.23 # foolsh: no, the current one in svn. there's a suspect lcd_update() in there 15.47.27 # which slows it down to a crawl 15.47.36 # making it feel like it has frozen 15.47.47 # but it's actually just running very very slowly 15.47.48 # Slasheri: do you have any documentation for the database formats? 15.48.45 # barrywardell:I noticed the scroll wheel light going out and then on when you move it so I knew it was not "locked" up 15.50.10 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 15.50.51 # foolsh: i suspect the problem was always there 15.51.19 # but we only noticed when jdgordon moved settings from into a file 15.51.52 # from the config block 15.53.02 # pondlife: yes 15.53.22 Quit mattzz ("Leaving") 15.53.34 # Barrywardell: I can reproduce it by "playing" a mp3 and skipping to the next track then back and next and so on till it stops Ahh I thought that might be it! 15.54.19 # foolsh: i suspect anything that causes the settings to be written to file might reproduce it 15.54.40 Join JoeBorn [0] (i=rootmeis@59.61.27.214) 15.54.41 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 15.54.59 # tanq: checking the structures in tagcache.c should give a good idea (just ignore the temporary commit file structures) 15.55.24 # tanq: i have also written a description to the forums a long time ago, that could be useful too 15.56.25 Join psiborg [0] (n=psiborg@flits103-221.flits.rug.nl) 15.58.23 # lostlogic: I've looked at the updated wiki page - there still seems to be a bit of data duplication going on. Would it be possible to reduce the number of structures at all? 15.59.13 # Also, does "next track to be read" mean next track to be buffered, or next track to be played? 15.59.23 # I assume "to be played". 15.59.29 # buffered 15.59.39 # what data appears duplicated? 16.00.09 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.230.92) 16.00.34 # The currently playing track data - isn't that guarenteed to be available on buffer? 16.00.41 # no 16.00.47 # Ah, long tracks ;) 16.00.48 # remember, tracks can be longer than the buffer 16.00.49 # right 16.00.50 # :) 16.01.02 # Sorry - heavy night last night 16.01.08 # lol 16.01.33 # I already had my one 'heavy night' for the month a couple weeks ago :-P 16.01.52 # Why have seperate structures for ID3 and track info? 16.02.13 # And why store for the previously played track? 16.02.15 # pondlife: because the id3 one can be dynamically sized (as per lowlight's patch) and the tracks one cannot really 16.02.29 # need the previous track for the time period after codec has finished before the wps transitions 16.02.39 # Gotcha 16.02.59 # what happens if the codec decodes two tracks before the wps transition? 16.03.07 # Mikachu: I kill you. 16.03.11 # okay 16.03.14 # :D 16.03.21 # Mikachu: not a situation I'm prepared to handle just now 16.03.42 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.03.48 # if some people wouldn't make their pcm buffers the size of the moon it wouldn't be a very likely situation at all. 16.03.51 # :-D 16.04.27 # for a flash device it's the logical split 16.04.35 # yes yes yes, so you keep saying 16.04.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.04.58 # well, i didn't mean to start anything, and i'll happily change back if i have to 16.05.08 # Mikachu: :) just givin' you shit 16.05.17 # What advantage does a large PCM buffer give? 16.05.27 # no skipping when zooming through lists 16.05.35 # unless you're very dexterious 16.05.37 # Mikachu: Nothing's comin' to mind that would let me do MoB and safely handle your case. 16.06.00 # are you guaranteed it won't happen with your split? 16.06.04 # that's all i really meant 16.07.03 # Mikachu: no, not guaranteed, for crossfaders, the buffer can be (15 max? at least 8max) seconds long which could contain a whole track in some situations 16.07.54 # maybe it could just stop decoding until the prev struct is free to overwrite 16.08.02 # hypothetically 16.08.20 # that sounds fairly reasonable. 16.09.00 # Could that kill gaplessness with short tracks? 16.09.18 # shouldn't impact gapless, afaik 16.09.46 # would kill crossfade with tracks that are shorter than the total fade buffer needed 16.10.19 # Crossfade is currently flaky anyway, but I'd very much hope to make it bulletproof in the new version. 16.10.28 # you're working on a new version? 16.10.38 # :) 16.10.45 # Not me 16.10.47 # Mikachu: go ahead and mention that potential problem and solution on the wiki page so we don't forget it. 16.10.59 # okay 16.11.15 # pondlife: Have you written a proposed design for this new version? 16.11.22 # what section should it go in? 16.11.30 # Not at all... I'm hoping the wiki can get to that point though 16.11.38 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-003-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.11.38 # Mikachu: just put it on the SoftwareCodecPlayback page somewhere 16.11.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoftwareCodecPlayback 16.11.50 # i figured that much out already :) 16.11.56 # bagh 16.11.56 # Sorry :) 16.12.02 # wherever you want then :-P 16.12.43 # Anyway, currently a manual track skip to an unbuffered track will gap and not crossfade, right? 16.13.06 # Could there be any mileage in delaying the skip until the required new track is buffered? 16.13.08 # pondlife: yes, disk spin and all 16.13.14 # pondlife: not IMO 16.13.17 # So the skip is slower, but the music doesn't stop. 16.13.25 # but then I don't use that feature 16.13.30 # so I don't know what people are trying toa chieve with it 16.13.53 # Party music in my case 16.14.01 # ah 16.14.08 # yes, I can see the benefit there. 16.14.45 # Seamlessness/gaplessness/stability are my top 3 requirements 16.15.35 # well that could introduce a lot of problems :( what happens when you are skipping from a > buffer size track to a new track? you hafta truncate the long track on the buffer X distance from the current read point, start reading the new track into that area and fire up the codec on the new track, then execute the crossfade skip 16.16.02 # Indeed, don't worry about it. I was getting hypothetical. 16.16.06 # hehehe 16.16.08 # I mean I do like the idea 16.16.21 # but it's not feasible until we've locked down the playback interfaces a lot more to make it 'safe' for that 16.16.40 # Indeed. That's why I want to concentrate on simplicity. 16.17.22 Join bluebrother [0] (i=RAGajOGv@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 16.19.42 # ok, so here's a related proposal then: _all_ writes to compressed buffer variables are done in one file and on one thread. The codec thread instead of writing to these directly only maintains it's position relative to the current track start, the buffer file and thread can read the current track and offset information when needed to update the buffer available information 16.19.54 # s/it's/its/ 16.20.08 # Yes 16.20.22 # That would be the BUFFERING process 16.20.49 # I think it's important to seperate these things. 16.21.14 # and do you then think that that should get a separate thread / queue from teh 'audio' thread which handles the UI events and passes them serialized to the codec? 16.21.54 # Yes. The UI relates to the PLAYBACK stuff; the buffering should just be happening as a service to the playback. 16.22.18 # I see the buffering as a little squirrel, madly gathering data 16.22.30 # while true, this involves a third playback related thread and I hate context switches with a passion 16.22.34 # Then sleeping for a long time 16.22.54 Quit subson () 16.22.55 # 'course we could actually make it a short lived thread that is only alive during buffer fill. 16.23.09 # Why not leave it to sleep? 16.23.17 # That shouldn't be too inefficient. 16.23.17 # well same thing, I suppose 16.23.43 # The voice stuff - do you agree with it being removed and using it's own dedicated codec? 16.23.55 # no, not enough IRAM space 16.24.30 # but on the other hand yes 16.24.52 # Pity. I was hoping a voice codec (limited sample frequency) could run without IRAM. 16.25.02 # What's the slowest SWCODEC target? 16.25.07 # hmm, it might could. 16.25.10 # ipod video atm 16.25.13 Join subson [0] (n=ju@82.67.68.29) 16.25.20 # isn't ipod3g slower? 16.25.25 # Mikachu: sorta 16.25.38 # I mean on pure decoding - not UI updating. 16.25.38 # the processor is slower, but the screen updates are so much less costly that it runs faster IIRC 16.25.56 # do you really have to draw on the whole screen? :) 16.26.22 # _currently_ with only 1 core working then ipod 3g is probably slowest 16.26.23 # It would be so nice to have playback.c only include playback code (all buffering and voice moved elsewhere) 16.27.03 # I only have an H300, that's pretty fast relatively, isn't it? 16.27.09 # yeah, but that involves some quite complex things, including codec rewinding so that we can do pause in the playback code and not the pcm code 16.27.13 # If you want any experiments doing to see what the 3g is capable of, just ask 16.27.29 # pondlife: yes, for raw decoding it's pretty tough. 16.27.45 # The pause mods can be seperate from the rest of it 16.27.55 # Leave that alone for now I reckon 16.29.12 # anyhow, rather than talking, I think I'm going to try to start coding MoB, after that I think the next task is to split out the buffering onto YetAnotherThread 16.29.18 # not sure what would be next. 16.30.37 # dan_a: did you see my 3g commit just there? i wonder if there's a bug in i2c-pp5002.c line 154? 16.31.42 # so... am i better of recopying my 7000 files to my ipod with the original filename/directories than having rockbox create a database 16.31.47 # Bagder: something odd with the frontpage for commit 12123 16.32.10 # lostlogic: Maybe split the buffering first? That would make development of MoB easier I'd think 16.32.27 # barrywardell: Not seen that yet - after your PP5020 commit I've been looking at unifying the 2 drivers. 16.32.30 # But you are Mr. Buffering, so I'll defer to your knowledge! 16.33.14 # dan_a: i was thinking they could be unified. the pp5020 one seems more complete 16.33.27 # barrywardell: What's wrong with line 154? 16.33.50 # it's enabling device 0x2, rather than 0x100 which i think it should be 16.34.02 # compared to the pp5020 code 16.34.18 # pondlife: I think it goes both ways, doing the first one is going to hurt but the latter will be easier for the knowledge and refactoring achieved in the first. 16.35.57 # I was looking at the wrong line 154... It doesn't look right, but the I2C seems to work 16.36.40 # lostlogic: I take it the attachments to the wiki page are now redundant? 16.36.46 # or obsolete 16.36.47 # it's probably already enabled by the bootloader (the apple bootloader) 16.36.57 # and buffer split first it is, btw ;) 16.37.15 # Just seemed to make sense to clear the decks a bit! 16.37.28 # thread_create(squirrel); 16.37.47 Join BobJonkman [0] (n=John@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) 16.38.09 Part BobJonkman 16.40.18 # barrywardell: There's a line in i2c-pp5020.c that looks odd to me: "outl(0x80 | (0 << 8), 0x600060a4)" 16.41.51 # dan_a: yes, I noticed that. I just left it as is since I don't know what that address does 16.42.21 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.42.26 Join God_Eater [0] (n=bryan@host-84-9-15-114.bulldogdsl.com) 16.42.35 # dan_a: i was thinking about moving all the *-pp.c files to a portalplayer subdir in the target tree. what do you think? 16.44.32 # It would make sense to keep them together 16.45.30 Join BobJonkman [0] (n=John@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) 16.46.44 Part BobJonkman 16.49.28 Join Moos [0] (i=5950bebb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9efe736e8f3652a5) 16.49.53 # dan_a: i was able to identify the most part of the i2c code in the original bootloader, but not where the data is sent and more import what data 16.51.06 # can someone tell me what queue send is compared to queue post and what a queue sender list is? 16.52.11 # rp-: At a guess, the I2C code you've found will be a subroutine. It will probably get arguments (passed in the registers with R0 being the first argument) telling it either the data to send, or a pointer to the data 16.53.05 # dan_a: yes, i'm looking at this, i think the arguments are stored on the stack 16.54.59 # rp-: the first four arguments are stored in registers r0-r3. any further arguments are on the stack 16.55.24 # so queue send blocks until the message is picked up by the recipient, cool. 16.55.32 # ok i'll have a look at that 16.56.39 # does someone have a good arm asm reference? 16.58.02 Join BobJonkma1 [0] (n=John@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) 16.58.07 Part BobJonkma1 17.00.33 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.00.58 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.01.13 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.05.11 # barrywardell: That isn't a bug - without the "DEV_EN |= 0x2;" audio doesn't start playing 17.06.07 # dan_a: ok. still seems a bit strange though 17.06.08 # rp-: I've been using the ARM instruction set: http://www.security-protocols.com/resources/ARM/QRC0001H_rvct_v2.1_arm.pdf 17.07.11 # barrywardell: In better news, with a couple of changes i2c-pp5020.c works perfectly for the PP5002 17.07.12 # ahh great, thank you dan_a 17.08.34 # dan_a: is the i2c_init() somewhere called in the current sansa code? or should i just call it before i want to send data? 17.10.18 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 17.10.38 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 17.13.13 # dan_a: great. go ahead and combine them if you hangover allows it ;) 17.13.23 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.13.38 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.14.16 Quit jaebird ("Leaving") 17.14.30 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) 17.15.59 # barrywardell: A decent lunch and a few cups of tea have sorted that out, so I'll commit soon :) 17.17.51 Join Moos [0] (i=5950bebb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fadad3939f8d0497) 17.22.31 Quit Moos (Client Quit) 17.23.56 # rp-: i2c_init() is called from apps/main.c 17.26.06 # ok thx 17.35.49 Join michaelconner [0] (i=46702703@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-09c04cbcbdfc5e55) 17.36.31 # hi all... curious how to flash rombox on an h120? instructions in the wiki seem to be archos-exclusive. 17.40.40 Quit rp- () 17.41.05 # michaelconner: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing 17.42.16 # aha! thanks, did not see that one. much appreciated. 17.43.37 Join KCC [0] (n=a@CPE0018e7004bcf-CM001225708556.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.45.32 Join mots [0] (n=Mots@M2475P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 17.47.28 # hi, is hibernation or sth like that possible on H300? 17.49.36 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 17.49.38 # lostlogic: queue_send is synchronous and queue_post asynchronous 17.49.45 # thanks again... it definitely does boot faster that way. nice work. 17.50.28 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 17.50.54 Part michaelconner 17.52.06 Quit markun (Remote closed the connection) 17.53.29 Join markun [0] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 17.53.36 Quit mots (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.53.46 Join mots [0] (n=Mots@M2401P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 17.56.40 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 17.56.43 Join jenkins [0] (i=suplay@c-67-160-201-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.58.21 Join Mots__ [0] (n=Mots@N050P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 17.58.21 Quit mots (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.58.33 Nick Febs_ is now known as Febs (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.59.14 # ok i put in the wad files on my 5th gen ipod and im getting error messages saying it cant find CBRICK CREB CTAN and so on. has anyone seen this before and can help? 18.05.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.10.15 # huh 18.10.35 # what 5th generation ipod you gotjenkins 18.10.59 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 18.11.20 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.11.25 # dan_a: I wonder if that 0x2 is needed for i2s rather than i2c (looking at the ipodlinux pp5020 page) 18.12.06 # barrywardell: what you just said sounded so confusing to me Lol 18.13.29 # the video snow 18.13.34 # barrywardell: That would make sense. 18.14.23 # jenkins which video ipod 18.14.32 # 30 60 80 18.14.32 # sn0w 30 gig 18.15.14 # hmmm could not say what happened since i am new i did the rocedure with noe errors 18.15.42 # which ipod do you have? 18.15.50 # 30g ipod video 18.16.01 # where did you get the files from? 18.16.21 # daily files latest 18.16.23 # barrywardell: I'll leave that code as it is for the moment, but commit the combined driver 18.16.37 # i mean the doom wad files 18.16.53 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.16.58 # dan_a: ok. 18.17.03 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 18.17.54 # doom 18.17.56 # lol 18.17.57 Join Mots [0] (n=Mots@M2450P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 18.18.11 # never tried that since i have xbx 360 18.18.33 # thats what i was talking about in the first place :) 18.19.05 # .....see what happens when you get so excited over your birthday you get sick like me and confused...must be old age 18.20.33 # I donated.....I have only but one problem with rockbox 18.20.53 # I iwsh it would boot up more neatly 18.21.08 # Sn0w: What do you mean? 18.21.43 # after the apple symbol goes away it does a boot up code or something 18.22.32 Join webguest22 [0] (i=41bdf751@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-419b4c1f0fd27983) 18.22.44 # It tells you a lot of information that is very useful when it doesn't boot... that goes away after a second or so, though! 18.22.54 # true 18.23.09 # dan a I am just very picky thats all its a bad habit I have 18.23.24 # is there are "credits" or about page for the developers of rokbox 18.23.58 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 18.23.58 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 18.23.59 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@170.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 18.24.05 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 18.24.47 # rockbox is great and I love how i can drag and drop now on my ipod without more software bein needed......anapod does not work properly and itunes will not work on my computer period 18.25.27 # webguest22: The credits file shows who has helped Rockbox, either by development or other means (http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/CREDITS?view=markup) 18.26.28 # i have to test though if rockbox can play video properly 18.26.28 Quit webguest22 (Client Quit) 18.27.15 # It can't. 18.27.30 # At least, video support is, at best, incomplete. 18.27.58 # really? 18.28.23 # Yes. 18.28.31 # It can't rebuffer the videos. 18.28.47 # It'll only play the video for as long as it has it in RAM. 18.28.56 # Once it empties the RAM, that's it. 18.29.06 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.29.12 # Also, it doesn't sync audio and video properly. 18.29.33 # (You can get pretty close if you turn on frame skip, and frame limits though.) 18.30.06 # i notice rockbox does push the ipod to its limit 18.30.23 # i figured playin video would be hard for it 18.31.19 # That's not the problem, really. It plays the files, and audio syncing is possible. 18.31.30 # It's just not implemented yet. 18.31.43 # Someone needs to go and complete it. 18.31.49 # we will see soon enough i am uploading a video 18.31.57 # What format? 18.32.10 # Rockbox only supports MPEG 1 or 2. 18.32.22 # mpeg correct demnsion specifically for the ipod video 30g 18.32.34 # Ah. 18.35.30 # nope 18.35.33 # does not work 18.36.11 Quit Mots__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.36.43 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 18.36.43 Quit Mots (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.36.55 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 18.36.58 Join Mots [0] (n=Mots@N007P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 18.37.41 # Read the Wiki. It'll tell you more specifically what format is needed. 18.39.00 Quit Mots (Client Quit) 18.42.06 Quit Febs_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.11 # Ok i found something talking about mpeg play back 18.42.45 # unfortunatly ppl on this site dont like to say hey here is the file you need download it here and apply it like this 18.43.39 # i am surrounded by links and i dunno what i need 18.44.13 # Sn0w: You need to be on the PluginMpegPlayer page. 18.44.29 # but i think the file cop.diff is what i need 18.45.45 # That's not the case. 18.46.03 # If you have a new build, you don't need to apply any patches. 18.46.19 # (A diff is a patch) 18.46.26 # Sn0w: You don't *need* a patch for mpeg playback. If you want to improve performance, you need to apply kernel_on_cop_7.diff from http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5755 18.46.58 # If you don't know how to apply a patch, then look at WorkingWithPatches 18.47.21 Join Sn0vv [0] (i=415c3249@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e7918245934c096c) 18.47.21 Quit Sn0w ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.48.51 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.48.53 Nick Febs_ is now known as Febs (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.50.12 Quit Hotfusion () 18.53.35 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@e177175149.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.56.03 # no easy instructions on how to get mpeg playback working 18.57.37 Join Sn0w [0] (i=415c3249@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0343df2026baba63) 18.57.37 Quit Sn0w (Client Quit) 18.57.37 Quit Sn0vv ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.57.43 Join Sn0w [0] (i=415c3249@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dbbf999558b7d422) 18.58.04 Join dan_a_ [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 18.58.11 Quit dan_a (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.59.18 Nick dan_a_ is now known as dan_a (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 19.02.24 # this kinda stuff in open source coding makes me wanna go back to factory firmware 19.02.34 Quit Sn0w (Client Quit) 19.02.40 Join Sn0w [0] (i=415c3249@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-01a4c0deba7f2c76) 19.02.53 Part pixelma 19.03.02 # .... 19.03.06 # Sn0w: you mean wanting to use a feature before it's done? 19.03.36 # dan_a, is this bug in the flash driver (locking up after 20 seconds) on the sansa a serious one? 19.04.24 # mattzz: I don't know if the locking up bug is in the flash driver. There are serious bugs in the flash driver, though. 19.04.57 # dan_a, hm, currently it makes development on the target kind of hard ;-) 19.05.16 # I mean applying the feature 19.06.26 # mattzz: I'll look in to it. 19.07.02 # dan_a, thanks, that would be really great. 19.07.45 # dan_a, I am happy about the fact that there is some kind of flash driver existing anyway - good job 19.07.47 # so how do i get the mpeg playback feature working 19.08.11 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.09.05 # dan_a: does removing the lcd_update not fix it? or are there other problems? 19.10.34 # barrywardell: The lcd_update has been there since I committed writing. However, it doesn't pass amiconn's stress test (either before or after the change) 19.11.22 # ah, that's not good 19.11.59 Join toffe [0] (n=toffe@adsl-70-235-226-248.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 19.12.21 # But I think that is a different problem to the hanging - like I say, that line will have been in the driver for months 19.13.02 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.13.56 # I guess something could have changed to cause more writing than normal 19.14.28 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.14.35 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.15.27 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.16.14 Join Moos [0] (i=5950bebb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4d9a21c8e0b10035) 19.17.05 # dan_a: my theory is that it's jdgordon's settings change 19.17.14 # writing to a file instead of the config block 19.17.47 # barrywardell: Sounds logical 19.17.50 # that could explain the timing of the hang 19.19.58 Quit Moos (Client Quit) 19.20.13 # Then I'll test getting rid of the lcd_update, see whether that fixes the hangs, and commit if it does. That will leave other bugs in the driver though 19.20.50 # are the other bugs known (in terms of flyspray entries) ? 19.21.05 # mattzz: No 19.21.18 Quit Sn0w ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.23.53 # no removing lcd_update does not work i've tried that 19.24.43 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.24.43 # foolsh: It doesn't cure the hangs? I had to put a nop in to make writing work 19.24.51 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-234-161.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 19.24.52 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 19.24.53 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.25.38 # my filesystem got currupted too but that my have come from all the rewrites of .rockbox 19.25.48 # had format 19.25.57 # had to* 19.28.22 # * foolsh is a novice though hasn't wrote a program in 10 years 19.29.35 # How do I force the hang to happen? 19.31.45 # I can get it to hang by playing a mp3 and skipping to the next song then back then forward and so on but this could come from something to do with the audio not supported or read a doc then goto the menu then back to the doc 19.32.02 # and so on 19.32.28 # its like increased disk access starts the hang 19.32.56 # Oh, yes, I see 19.34.10 # i forced the hang by trying to delete a file 19.34.38 # amiconn, u there? 19.34.47 # * foolsh is glad he could help hang the e200 but must get some sleep he has to go to work tonight 19.37.42 # linking prob on archos recorder: region FLASH is full 19.38.00 # (/home/mattzz/rockbox-dev/rockbox/archos-build/apps/rombox.elf section .rodata) 19.38.23 # I dont need the rombox 19.39.34 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 19.46.16 Join BiptoN [0] (n=BiptoN@dsl092-050-020.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 19.48.23 # It's not the lcd_update line 19.49.23 Join matt____ [0] (n=matt@82-39-141-196.cable.ubr06.newy.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.51.01 # No, wait, perhaps it is... 19.56.32 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.56.39 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 19.56.40 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.59.13 # mattzz, barrywardell: I've committed what I think fixes the lockups. Can you let me know if you are still seeing them 19.59.31 # dan_a, sure, I will check 19.59.31 Quit idnar (Connection timed out) 20.01.10 Quit God_Eater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.02.40 # dan_a: i2c-pp5020.h and i2c-pp5002.h are identical now... 20.02.48 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.03.12 # barrywardell: I'd missed that - do you want to fix, or shall I? 20.03.32 # i'll leave you to do it. i have to go out now. 20.04.18 # OK 20.05.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.08.06 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.09.13 Join Redbreva [0] (n=chatzill@host86-144-107-44.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 20.11.40 # eh, whats the first line of the header supposed to say (on a plugin)? $Id: $ or something else? 20.11.48 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.200.34) 20.12.02 Quit Ribs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.12.36 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.12.51 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host199-158-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.12.51 Quit lubiix908 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.13.56 # dan_a, still hangs 20.14.21 # mattzz: darn 20.14.48 # dan_a, wheel light control is sill working though 20.14.50 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-155.net-81-220-111.rev.numericable.fr) 20.18.31 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 20.22.23 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-140-253.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 20.22.43 # Argh, snprintf is different in simulator... should have known that. 20.32.28 Quit barrywardell () 20.33.53 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@unaffiliated/brunellus) 20.35.16 Quit Brunellus (Remote closed the connection) 20.35.31 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@unaffiliated/brunellus) 20.35.41 # w00t. 20.44.20 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 20.44.20 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 20.44.27 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 20.52.48 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.52.51 # Llorean: Seen this yet? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=8478.0;topicseen 20.53.41 # dan_a: I assume that's the link I've already deleted 20.53.44 # We have a new problem user 20.54.05 # It is/was the Pacbox one 20.54.23 # Yeah 20.54.42 # I already deleted a post of his asking for help finding pacbox ROMs that worked. 20.54.52 # I tried to explain to him that asking for ROMs is not allowed in our forums. 20.55.30 # His professional opinion on whether it's illegal and whether or not we should allow it was roughly 'It's the internet dude. They just appear out of air. Why the heck does it matter?' 20.56.00 # That's... incredible. 20.57.15 # He asked how people are supposed to get ROMs, I politely explained that they can be obtained from arcade boards, and that the websites that host them are illegal in many places, and anyway we don't allow discussion. Then I said "Where do you think the sites get them, do they flout in out of the air?" 20.57.20 # His response was: "they do just float in the air stupid." 20.57.25 # And that is a direct quote. 20.58.20 # I would have been tempted to point him towards a site selling butterfly nets, then 20.58.35 Join Everybody [0] (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 20.58.53 # lol 20.58.57 # He's banned, but he already seems to be using a proxy, so he's likely to be back under a new username. 20.59.04 # Though he did threaten to leave for iPodWizard.net. 20.59.09 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.59.34 Join gop [0] (n=gop@ool-43529905.dyn.optonline.net) 20.59.36 # hey 20.59.39 # is thier any means to get 20.59.47 # internet radio in the car 20.59.49 # live 21.00.25 # gop: What does that have to do with Rockbox? 21.00.56 Quit perldiver ("some games are better left unplayed") 21.01.24 # rockbox doesn't support internet connection ....... yet ;-) 21.01.35 # oh 21.02.20 # Not to mention there aren't any devices within its current scope that would have their own connection to the 'net. 21.03.09 # if rockbox can pull ROMs out of the air, Shirley it can pull IP packets out of the air. 21.03.44 Quit matt____ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.04.39 # I've been toying with the idea of starting a port to the Sharp Zaurus so that we have something we can use an IP stack on. 21.05.12 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B96EAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.18.04 Join capsaicin [0] (i=selenius@c-75-73-49-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 21.19.22 Quit Kitt0s ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.25.01 Quit capsaicin () 21.25.16 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.64.19) 21.29.07 Part Llorean 21.32.20 # dan_a: red build 21.32.22 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 21.33.19 # midgey: Thank you 21.33.50 # just protecting you from the wrath of amiconn :) 21.34.52 Join wastedsun [0] (n=magikarp@cpc1-cmbg2-0-0-cust315.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 21.43.04 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.43.27 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B9537D.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.48.25 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.49.02 # gotta go, c u 21.49.06 Quit mattzz ("Leaving") 21.56.41 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.57.09 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 21.57.11 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.58.00 Quit zylche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.58.55 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.03.51 # * Bagder fixed the front page table 22.04.39 # Bagder: It looks like there might be a build server hung too 22.05.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.05.19 # (at least, the current build seems to be taking a long time) 22.05.30 # done now 22.05.41 # but indeed 809 seconds... 22.07.30 # A long time when you want to be sure that all the red you introduced is gone 22.07.46 # hehe 22.08.13 # its hard to image there once was a time we had no commit builds... 22.09.27 # i'm not sure it's not my fault, but with svn and cop7 i had very slow menus, it went away when i unpatched cop7 again (had cop6 before) 22.09.27 Quit shnee (Success) 22.14.11 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/staff/tucoz) 22.14.58 # Bagder, sorry for stressing the svn server today. i was gathering statistics for statsvn. in case you are interested, i could send you my cache-file. 22.15.32 # since Mikachu took the elephants, we have plenty of bandwidth to play with ;-) 22.15.43 # oh, will we get a nice svn statistics page? 22.15.53 # ;-) 22.16.26 # unfortunatley i have no hosting of my own, but i can mail the cache file for someone to try 22.16.44 Quit Everybody ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.17.29 # when I'm finished with uni in a couple of months I need to look how I can get webspace then ... 22.17.42 # but currently my space is pretty limited :( 22.18.14 # the stats pages is ~17MB 22.18.30 # urgh. Too big :( 22.18.31 # lots of images 22.19.05 # zipped ~5Mb 22.19.38 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.221.18) 22.20.12 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 22.21.35 # maybe I should setup a server at home ... 22.27.24 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 22.27.29 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 22.27.47 # btw, any interesting results from statsvn? 22.28.04 # bagder is the top developer 22.28.15 # wooo 22.28.24 # with linuxstb as a runner up, and amiconn third 22.28.33 # * Bagder changes a lot of whitespace... :-P 22.28.56 # this is mainly .c and .h files. and with .lang scripts etc included 22.29.00 # quantity, not quality has always been my lead words 22.29.04 # hehe 22.29.07 # *g* 22.29.21 # maybe I should change to that too ... :P 22.30.16 # but the whitespace changes improves the qualitey of the source files 22.31.34 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.32.00 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.32.06 # hmm. This file not found thing when building the manual is ... a bit strange. 22.32.20 Quit freqmod (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.33.00 # yes. but look in the generated makefile. you see that TOOLSDIR is pointing to the platform directory for some reason 22.33.23 # yes, noticed that. Strangely it seems I can only reproduce this on my old machine. 22.33.35 # but I need to try on the other one later 22.33.50 # bbl 22.35.17 # hmm, I can quite easily fix that by not using TOOLSDIR 22.35.18 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 22.36.01 Join peschmae [0] (n=simon@h68n2fls303o1035.telia.com) 22.36.15 Quit Mouser_X () 22.36.32 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 22.37.05 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/svn/ 22.37.34 # that's tucoz statsvn stuff 22.37.52 # Wow, 2006 showed a lot of growth 22.38.37 # I imagine the irivers and ipods helped with that 22.38.59 # Well, it doubled in the number of lines of code, from the looks of it. 22.39.02 # nice 22.39.16 # With over 100,000 added in Aprilish? 22.39.21 # codecs 22.39.24 # Did we add a big codec... 22.39.25 # wow, contributed LOC. 22.39.25 # Right. 22.40.10 # April 2006 was over 250000 loc 22.40.15 # hehe. Developer of the month for January 2002 :) 22.40.16 # meh, apps/lang: 207416 lines of code 22.40.30 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp183-252.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net) 22.40.37 # no wonder you win, bagder :-) 22.40.38 # yeah, that seems like I've gotten a lot of lang stuff on me 22.40.44 # anyone know how to install multiple versions of GCC 22.40.53 # and then switch between these versions 22.40.59 # decayedcell: just change install path 22.41.02 # install each into it's own prefix 22.41.05 # and edit PATH accordingly 22.41.13 # so when compiling 22.41.18 # excluded stuff is: *.wps, www/*, *.bmp, *.tex. *.png, *.svg, *.pdf and *.bdf 22.41.24 # just do a export PATH= 22.41.27 # and that should work 22.41.37 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@host14-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it) 22.41.51 # april 2006 was the language adds 22.42.04 # markun is the champion if .bdf is included 22.42.08 # tucoz: *.lang should probably be excluded too 22.42.14 # probably 22.42.30 # It seems I do 1/4 of my commits at 1am - but never on a Friday. 22.42.45 # the langs along are 250000 lines 22.42.52 # a bit misleading 22.42.57 # i can generate a new one 22.43.22 # 53,000 lines of .lang rework by amiconn on the 1st, and 177,000 lines on the 3rd by bagder 22.43.22 # please do 22.43.41 # seems I'm most active on tuesdays 22.43.53 # and does the scipt differentiate between changed lines and added lines? 22.44.07 # I don't think so 22.44.12 # the monthly breakdowns list everything as a "change" 22.44.23 # true 22.44.28 # you can read about the script here. http://svn.statsvn.org/statsvnwiki/index.php/UserManual 22.44.37 # but the graphs appear to count them as adds 22.44.39 # I'm a bit surprised to not see my most activity in the manual module 22.44.50 # .tex is excluded 22.44.57 # hehe, the addition of the manual credits in doc/ 22.45.03 # aah. 22.46.19 # would be awesome if that stat would now also link to viewvc 22.46.22 # * bluebrother dreams 22.46.41 # bluebrother, it can 22.46.47 # whats the difference between the core GCC package and the full one 22.46.51 # but not now 22.47.00 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.47.01 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.47.03 # decayedcell: a lot of different languages added in the full one, iirc 22.47.08 # stats are nice, but it's nothing important ... 22.47.14 Part norbusan 22.47.23 # but only the core one is required because it has C and C++? 22.47.50 # if you only need c and c++ the core is sufficient (afaik) 22.47.59 # Bagder, uploaded 22.48.04 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 22.48.07 Nick Febs_ is now known as Febs (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 22.49.25 # that pushed me down to forth 22.49.37 # and dave hit the roof 22.50.03 # exclude plugins! ;-P 22.50.10 # hahaha 22.51.09 # so friday is my favourite commit day 22.51.19 # around 14 22.51.43 # I find my 15:00 commit peak rather interesting. It's quite pronounced. 22.52.19 # now my favorite commit day is thursday around midnight :) 22.52.43 # the time is probably GMT ? 22.53.10 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.214.55) 22.54.11 # Bagder, do you want one with viewvc links? ;) 22.54.33 # sure! 22.55.56 # I'm toying with the idea to write an irc log reader, with a bit of css and js to make it easier to read (colored nicks, idented text, highlight selected people etc). Has anyone seen anything like that? 22.56.07 # Yes. hold on 22.56.17 # Zagor, I wrote something like that some time ago 22.56.35 # Zagor: sounds like something we could use 22.56.36 # simply colors the logfiles a bit. 22.56.51 # bluebrother: is it viewable somewhere? 22.56.58 # Hmm, the 'file types' table is missing a separate line for .S 22.56.58 # and having the long lines not force you to scroll horizontally... 22.57.09 # Zagor, the logs for ubuntu use something like that 22.57.10 # Bagder: exactly. lots of neat little options. 22.57.19 # tucoz: do you have a link? 22.57.23 # a perl script i think 22.57.26 # perhaps remove the joins/parts too? 22.57.28 # i am looking for it 22.57.34 # Soap: yes, optionally 22.57.36 # Soap: yeah 22.57.42 # Zagor, not yet. Give me some minutes ... 22.58.04 # Hahaaa, wavplay.c is in the top ten of largest files 22.58.42 # Most of that is just giant array definitions 22.58.52 # apps/tree.c has most revisions 22.59.07 # Zagor, example http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-devel-2006-05-01.html 22.59.20 # Zagor, http://freshmeat.net/projects/irclog2html.pl/ 22.59.45 # Soap: I always search for my parts to know where to start reading the logs, at least. 23.00.03 # that's not a bad idea at all. 23.00.08 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.00.10 # it does not work right out the box for the rockbox logs though. should be a simple fix though. 23.00.22 # Bagder, uploaded 23.00.34 # and freenode apears to be stable again. Netsplits really made a mess of the logs for a while there. 23.00.53 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.00.53 # tucoz: I'd like to make it more advanced anyway (on-the-fly user adjustable) 23.00.56 Quit JPMaximilian ("I Shall Return") 23.01.06 # but that should be a good starting point 23.01.54 # linus has two users on the top-10... :-) 23.01.55 # Zagor, http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/irc-highlight/ 23.01.56 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 23.02.29 # the log file is hard coded atm. But that is only because I stopped working on it at some point 23.02.39 # tucoz: Hmm, does the script allow to merge developer names if they are in fact one and the same person? 23.03.15 # linus would climb to #3 23.03.34 # yup 23.05.09 # amiconn, not sure. that would be useful though 23.05.15 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.05.46 # doesn't look like it is possible 23.05.52 # Heh, I've never noticed the logbot time format is hh.mm.ss. uuuugly! :) 23.06.13 # crazy authors 23.06.29 # hehe 23.08.05 # afk 23.08.32 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.215.74) 23.08.32 # Zagor, in case you're interested in the source: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/irc-highlight/index.phps 23.08.44 # haven't worked too hard on it ;-) 23.08.47 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.08 # *** The command 'gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c' failed. 23.09.09 # man... 23.09.23 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.09.27 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 23.09.27 # bluebrother: thanks, but I think I'll start from scratch. neither of those two scipts are very advanced so the benefit of doing it my way from scratch outweighs it. 23.09.34 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.09.35 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.09.47 # hmpf 23.10.12 # sure. You could add cool stuff like displaying the real name for developers as name property 23.10.34 # didn't remember it was _that_ short ;-) 23.11.24 # :-) 23.11.31 # dan_a: I wonder what's up with the sansa disk driver that it doesn't pass the stress test. 23.12.15 # I planned to add a search field that would highlight all messages containing that string at once. Never did it though 23.12.17 # All the targets I have do pass it, also with further increased data size 23.12.21 # amiconn: I don't know. It gets quite a way before it hits a problem. 23.13.35 # I what way does it fail, btw? 23.13.42 # s/I/In/ 23.13.46 # It dies with a compare error. 23.14.04 # In the beginning, or after comparing for some time? 23.14.18 # After quite a long time 23.14.35 # nicks can't contain space, can they? 23.14.40 # * amiconn wonders whether the writing or the reading is at fault 23.16.13 # * amiconn also wonders how difficult it would be to add exact error position reporting, together with the (pseudo-random) write and read chunk sizes and alignments 23.17.38 # The plugin helped me in finding one bug in my asm optimised transfer routines for arm - but that bug happened in the very beginning for unaligned transfers 23.17.55 # Just using a hex editor was enough 23.18.00 # I'd like to know the exact sector it's comparing. 23.18.25 # The plugin doesn't know about the sector, it uses plain file operations 23.18.25 # I'd be surprised if it was read errors because they should show up in other things 23.18.57 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.20.14 # (for example, I'd imagine that the Doom wad would not load correctly) 23.21.10 # ugh looks like another reformat and reinstall for me lol 23.24.30 Part decayedcell 23.25.10 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.27.24 Join dune2 [0] (n=dune2@dune.net2.nerim.net) 23.27.58 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 23.32.57 Join Kitt0s [0] (i=Kaa@87.68.19.8.cable.012.net.il) 23.35.19 Quit Kitt0s (Client Quit) 23.37.01 Join Kitt0s [0] (i=Kaa@87.68.19.8.cable.012.net.il) 23.39.04 Join decayedcell [0] (i=3ba7b7fc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4ad5ba8274e0f8f4) 23.39.13 Quit decayedcell (Client Quit) 23.39.39 Join decayedcell [0] (i=3ba7b7fc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6d26696706c03fff) 23.40.11 # has anyone tried the patch in FS6357? sounds interesting 23.40.40 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.40.56 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.218.126) 23.42.19 Quit midgey () 23.43.47 Quit zuzu_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.43.51 Join zuzu_ [0] (i=zuzu@melanarchy.org) 23.51.52 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.52.57 # * Bagder introduces a new irc log index page 23.54.02 # we've got one or two logs now... 23.54.33 # amen 23.55.55 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@59.61.25.72)