--- Log for 31.01.107 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 9 hours ago 00.01.43 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.01.43 # there is no locale-all for my distro 00.01.48 # what's this arm-elf-gcc compiler i need? 00.02.09 # it's a gcc that compiles for an arm target 00.02.14 # also known as cross-compiler 00.02.21 # bluebrother: right, but the fact that locale-all apparently fixed it (haven't tried myself) indicates the problem is a missing locale 00.02.53 # noodroog, do you have the hold switch on when you turn on your iPod? 00.02.58 Join GliTch_ [0] (i=GliTch_@24-171-53-170.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 00.03.05 # IIRC that causes a settings reset. 00.03.56 # hmm. /usr/lib/locale has 376 entries ... 00.04.29 # bluebrother: what is your distro? 00.04.47 # Fedora, Core 5 currently 00.05.03 # iconv (GNU libc) 2.4 00.05.11 # noodroog, do you have the hold switch on when you turn on your iPod? 00.05.13 # is there anything newer around? Haven't checked yet 00.05.16 # yeah i probably do it by mistake 00.05.20 # is there any way to turn that off? 00.06.26 # noodroog, no. It's a feature. 00.06.27 Quit ender` (" Your Mom is so dumb that she tried to minimize a 12 variable function to a minimal sum of products expression using a karnau) 00.06.28 # noodroog: Not as far as I know, it's used as a failsafe way to clear your config settings without being connected to a computer or anything, any corruptions without it could be a bad idea :P 00.07.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.07.50 # ah ok, thanks then 00.08.20 # Just be sure to check you have hold off before trying to boot ^^ 00.09.08 # i have a patch that disables settings reset on hold if the headphone cable is also in 00.11.47 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.12.20 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 00.12.26 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.12.31 # mikachu - ive not had much luck with patches so far, cant get them to compile :/ 00.12.48 # (the same erm-elf-gcc thing something mentioned above, only under cygwin) 00.13.05 # that would be the compiler 00.13.12 # an essential part of compiling 00.13.35 # well yeah but i have gcc and ive looked through all the cygwin packages and cant find anything called that 00.13.57 # instead of doing that you can read the instructions on the wiki 00.14.25 # indeed, just found this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 00.14.50 # very helpful, especially the gentoo part (for me (gentoo-user)) :) 00.15.38 # heh, thanks 00.17.06 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.19.29 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.50 # I'm off for some sleep. If the daily manual breaks we will notice ... and if not I can find a solution on my side later 00.20.03 Quit bluebrother ("'nite") 00.20.35 Quit Thundercloud_ (Connection timed out) 00.20.52 Join dantje [0] (n=dvg@HSI-KBW-085-216-028-167.hsi.kabelbw.de) 00.21.18 # safetydan: hi, just wanted to tell you that i wont have any time for the lang cleanup this week but will probably take after the weekend. 00.21.30 # take a look 00.22.10 Join heavylaythecrown [0] (n=asdf@user-0cetep4.cable.mindspring.com) 00.22.11 Part noodroog 00.22.39 Join Rudy-Confused [0] (n=chatzill@c-76-19-38-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.23.06 # n1s, no worries 00.24.35 # Hi. I just downloaded rockbox current for my Sansa e250 plus fonts, then unzipped both files to the root dir of the Sansa, unplugged USB and power-cycled. No visible change. Did I miss something? 00.24.59 # You need to download the bootloader 00.25.06 # Look in the manual for instructions 00.25.26 # ( http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 ) 00.25.31 # dantje: and READ the instructions carefully! lost of sansa owners are sloppy and brick their players! 00.25.57 # Ok, will do. Thanks. I'll RTFM myself in the corner... 00.26.12 # unfortunately... the manual's 2.2.3. Installing the boot loader section seems to be empty 00.26.51 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.27.15 # Go here for instructions: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Install 00.27.34 # Maybe because the sansa port doesn't have sound yet no-one thought non-dev people would install it? 00.27.47 # lol 00.27.54 Part n1s 00.28.05 # yeah, looking at the status page, it seems like the sansa port is in a VERY early stage 00.28.30 # dantje: you might want to hold off on installing for now... follow the port, and wait till it's actually.. well.. useable :-\ 00.28.31 # Ah yes, the devenv is compiling in the other window :-) 00.28.58 # ah, so you are a dev? 00.30.23 # Well, never did something with rockbox, but I manage to make a living of developing software... 00.30.49 # I see 00.32.36 # anyone here use the mpegplayer plugin for an ipod? 00.32.39 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.199.163) 00.32.49 # or know much about it.. 00.33.26 # not for an iPod... but I might be able to help anyway :-\ 00.34.04 # actually, nevermind... I gotta go 00.34.06 # well im interested.. it sounds glitchy. should i just stick to switching to the ipod firmware for now or does it work wellenough? 00.34.07 Part TrueJournals 00.34.10 # no! 00.34.19 Quit z35 (Connection timed out) 00.35.12 Join z35 [0] (n=z@adsl-226-224-105.dab.bellsouth.net) 00.36.10 # so it is possible to actually brick the sansas ? 00.40.28 # Zagor: you rang me a bit ago? 00.40.52 # yeah have you looked into the cloak list yet? 00.41.35 # preglow: apparently yes. the recovery mode, ironically, allows you to really destroy it. 00.41.42 # i have...i sent a mail to staff@freenode.net (staffers said that would be the easiest), but that sint know really knows for replying in a timely manner 00.42.26 # s/sint know really know/isnt really known 00.42.29 # eek... 00.43.22 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 00.44.13 # well, we're not in a hurry anyway. 00.47.00 # heavylaythecrown: Do you have an ipod video? 00.51.13 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.51.38 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.52.16 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 00.52.36 # isn't rockbox meant to play aac encoded sound files? :/ 00.52.57 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.54.34 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.54.44 # linuxstb_: yes 00.54.47 # zylche, I believe so 00.55.17 # ohh, and I keep getting "incompatible model" coming up, upgraded the correct model [ipod video] to the latest version 00.55.21 # <.< 00.56.03 # zylche, you haven't upgrade properly then. Make sure you overwrite rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox folder 00.56.36 # * zylche removes the folder and file and re-extracts them 00.56.38 # heavylaythecrown: Then forget mpegplayer, it's designed for devices without special video decoding hardware. You should stick to the Apple firmware. 00.56.44 Join maretard [0] (i=18627143@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f647292301c4234a) 00.56.51 # hey everybody, just wondering, how do you apply a patch?!? 00.57.08 # maretard: What OS are you running? 00.57.13 # but does mpegplayer allow me to play video on the rockbox side? 00.57.24 # maretard, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 00.57.35 # iriver h10 20gig, latest daily build of rockbox 00.57.41 # sweet, thanks a bunch! 00.57.49 # Yes, but not using the ipod video's video decoding hardware, so it is nowhere near as good as the Apple firmware. 00.58.14 # just out of curiosity, why isnt video supported yet? is it hard to implement? 00.58.22 # oh btw, i managed to get video working on my h10, but the framerate lags behind the audio like a MOTHER 00.58.31 # is there any setting i can configure for this? 00.58.53 # apparently i'm supposed to apply a patch enabling my second core to decode the video, but that's why i need to apply the patch first ^_^ 00.59.17 # maretard: Not really.. the kernel_on_cop patch should help a little, but mpegplayer is still very buggy 00.59.24 # heavylaythecrown: Assuming that you're asking why Rockbox doesn't use the ipod video's undocumented video decoding chip, it's because it's undocumented. 00.59.32 # You might want to change the skip frames setting in mpegplayer to On 00.59.47 # i am skipping frames, but then the video is barely viewable 00.59.49 Quit funky ("leaving") 00.59.54 # it's like 0.5 fps T_T 01.00.02 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 01.00.22 # Then the kernel_on_cop patch should help 01.00.27 # linuxstb_: does ipodlinux support video playback? 01.00.29 # maretard: buy a Gigabeat :) 01.00.33 # ok, i'm looking at the patch manual, but how am i supposed to apply it? 01.00.36 # hahahaha :D 01.00.41 # maretard: You need the kernel_on_cop patch for anything like reasonable playback. 01.00.45 # If you want, I can make a build for you real quick (I have everything downloaded) 01.00.50 # oh sweet 01.01.00 # that would be awesome! 01.01.00 # just give me like 5 minutes... 01.01.07 # coolcool, no problem! :D 01.01.27 # heavylaythecrown: It has video playback similar to Rockbox - i.e. not using the ipod video's video decoder. 01.01.51 # I'm not sure if the IPL video player even works on the ipod video. 01.02.08 # (I think it's just the Nano and Photo/Color) 01.02.23 # linuxstb_: ok. so what is the best program to use to convert videos to an acceptable ipod format? ive had trouble in the past 01.02.42 # No idea - that's not a question for #rockbox 01.02.53 # k thanks 01.03.27 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.03.54 Quit tamacracker ("Leaving") 01.04.11 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.04.46 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.194.145) 01.06.26 Part safetydan 01.08.35 Quit Rudy-Confused (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.09.55 # has everyone stopped talking, or has my internet timed out? 01.10.05 # everyone's stopped talking 01.10.07 # stopped talking 01.10.08 # ah haha 01.10.08 # they stopped talking 01.10.09 Quit heavylaythecrown ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.10.12 # lolol 01.10.18 # still building, TJ? :D 01.10.22 # yup 01.10.25 # almost done 01.10.28 # thanks a bunch, man 01.10.56 # patching is such a big hassle when you just want to apply one and get out of the maze of manuals and infodocs safely :D 01.10.56 # damn, i built the wrong crosscompiler 01.11.11 # i'm in for some waiting again :S 01.11.22 # without all the compilation/codewriting stuff T_T 01.11.30 # heh 01.11.41 # brb 01.11.47 # haha k 01.12.43 # ok, back 01.12.49 # darn samba... 01.13.04 # samba? 01.13.04 # ? 01.13.20 # hi all 01.13.27 # filesharing program to share files between linux and windows 01.13.27 # hola 01.13.31 # ahh 01.13.34 # you're on linux? 01.13.40 # I'm using a virtual machine to compile rockbox (linux running in windows) 01.13.48 # ah, i see 01.13.59 # so, to get files from the virtual machine to windows and give it to you... I need samba working 01.14.04 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.14.04 # sometimes it decides to not work 01.14.06 # and it's not :D 01.14.13 # hehe 01.14.22 # well i've gotta go eat 01.14.25 # ok 01.14.27 # so could you zip it up and email it to me? 01.14.30 # yes 01.14.31 # maretard@gmail.com 01.14.37 # thanks a zillion, man! 01.14.41 # np 01.14.44 # ttyl! 01.14.47 Quit maretard ("CGI:IRC") 01.15.07 # TrueJournals: maybe you'd have more luck with an ftp server :) 01.15.40 # weird, "Save Failed" "No Partition" appeared on my ipod just there when I was listening to song.. 01.15.42 # well... I have an FTP server that I can run on my machine... but I don't think I have anything for ftp in vmware 01.15.50 # nevermind 01.18.18 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.203.131) 01.21.32 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.22.48 # yes! It worked! 01.22.49 # :-p 01.23.44 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.188.29) 01.25.25 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 01.25.34 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.26.03 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.26.57 Quit dantje ("Ex-Chat") 01.32.48 Quit scorche (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.34.15 Quit toffe ("MegaIRC v3.27 http://ironfist.at.tut.by") 01.34.19 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.34.25 Join rds [0] (n=rogelio@189.142.103.41) 01.36.10 Join maretard [0] (i=18627143@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-119a98335e54f1cd) 01.36.11 # GMAIL IS PISSING ME OFF 01.36.17 # LOL 01.36.19 # how so? 01.36.57 # it won't let me send you the files 01.37.09 # I'm going to upload them to rapidshare.com if that's OK with you... 01.38.49 # OK, go to http://rapidshare.com/files/14175732/RockboxKernelonCOP-Zipped.zip to get the files 01.38.56 # sweet, man 01.39.14 # thanks!!! 01.39.18 # in the zip is rockbox.zip and H10_20GC.mi4. Put H10_20GC.mi4 in your system folder, and extract rockbox.zip to the base directory of your player 01.39.18 # uhh 01.39.19 # np 01.39.23 # ah i see 01.39.27 # lol 01.39.29 # so it's like a totally new build of rockbox 01.39.35 # yeah 01.39.36 # what happens when i update RB though? 01.39.45 # then you will lose the patch :-\ 01.40.03 # the you learn to patch yourself! ;) 01.40.06 # T__T 01.40.12 # sighhh 01.40.13 # D: 01.40.19 # looks like i'll be forced to join the dev horde T_T 01.40.30 # * Soap is no dev. 01.40.32 # what's so good about updates anyway? 01.40.36 # :D 01.40.47 # you get new stuff 01.40.56 # shiny! 01.40.58 # :P 01.40.59 # like...? 01.41.19 # I thought you were joking about updating. 01.41.19 # uhhhhh 01.41.21 # truejournals 01.41.26 # rockbox.zip is corrupt 01.41.26 # uh.. new features/improvements 01.41.30 # ah 01.41.47 # it might even include the patch you're trying to use 01.41.52 # sweet 01.41.54 # There is stability, battery life, new pluggins, new features, better menus, what more could you get w/o a new player? 01.42.14 # hahaha 01.42.22 # oh well 01.42.26 # i guess i'll have to learn then ^_^ 01.42.40 # maretard, i'm doing so right now ;) 01.42.51 # if you realized how recent some of the coolest things were.... 01.43.00 # lke? 01.43.01 # like* 01.43.06 # In my case, it involves lots of waiting for arm-elf-gcc to finish compiling 01.43.11 # ah 01.43.18 # * clueless * :D 01.43.35 # bospaadje: it's faster if you don't use -O3 ;) 01.43.48 # i don't, i think it's -O2 01.43.50 # sigh 01.43.55 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.43.58 # * bospaadje checks 01.44.02 # does anyone have an IRIVER H10 20GIG that can play video with a good FPS? 01.44.40 # maretard: i got the fps that are shown on the PluginMpegplayer page 01.45.01 # holy crap 01.45.04 # Is the Kernel on COP patch still flawed? 01.45.08 # dunno 01.46.17 # anybody there? 01.46.40 # ... 01.46.54 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97C04.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.46.58 # well 01.47.00 # Soul-Slayer: there are problems on the H10 01.47.05 # argh 01.47.07 # dunno about other targets 01.47.14 # what's wrong with the h10? 01.47.33 # low processing power? 01.47.36 # something to do with setting the cpu frequency 01.47.39 # ah 01.47.47 # it probably affects other targets too 01.47.47 # well i've noticed that the H's tend to be weak as hell 01.47.54 # rockbox actually LAGS on mine 01.48.04 # the h10 has the same processing power as the ipods 01.48.09 # really?? 01.48.11 # hmm that pluginmpegplayer page looks promising for my ipod nano, i might try that out soon 01.48.14 # wow O_O 01.48.14 # It's practically the same thing 01.48.18 # well anyway 01.48.19 # i g2g 01.48.22 # swim team ^_^ 01.48.22 # yes, they even have the same processor 01.48.28 # KoCOP #7 still makes my ipod lag. 01.48.29 # The similarities between ipods and H10s are incredible, lol 01.48.30 # i'll see if i can learn how to patch 01.48.36 # i'll tty guys later 01.48.39 # peace :P 01.48.39 # Goodbye. 01.48.39 Quit maretard ("CGI:IRC") 01.49.07 # Soap: Does it lower performance for you with the patch applied? 01.49.14 Quit funky ("leaving") 01.49.28 # yes, which is why I still remove 12120 and then apply KoCOP#6 01.50.22 # And that results in an increase in performance? 01.50.51 # back to where things were before 12120 01.51.17 # Would you mind telling me what 12120 is? 01.51.20 # but you should try both ways and see if KoCOP#7 causes problems. 01.51.46 # SVN commit #12120, the cleanup of playback.c which broke KoCOP#6 01.51.56 # Ahh right, gotcha. 01.52.15 # Soap: there is one thing that I see I changed (not really intentionally) in KoCOP#7 01.52.32 # i put voice_thread_start in IRAM 01.52.43 # you could try removing it and see if it changes anything 01.52.47 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 01.53.18 # just clip that one line? 01.53.21 # barrywardell: do you have any idea why kernel_on_cop_7 and the scrolling margins patch together would cause my H10 to just suddenly reset after debug info is shown? 01.53.55 # Soap: just remove the IDATA_ATTR from it 01.54.08 # ok 01.54.31 # Soap: I can't see how it would make much difference, but you never know... 01.55.03 # TrueJournals: I don't know about scrolling margins, but I know kernel_on_cop had problems with the ipod_set_cpu_frequency function 01.55.29 # ok, maybe I'll try removing that and see if it solves the problem.. 01.55.30 # #7 makes the iPod 5th gen. bog down dramaticly, Llorean confirms on his Nano. 01.55.48 # just curious, wat is kernel_on_cop? 01.56.13 # bospaadje: Takes advantage of the dual processors and loads the kernel from the coprocessor 01.56.14 # the PP5020 cpu has two cores... kernel_on_cop allows you to use both cores of the cpu 01.56.29 # ah 01.56.55 # Currently however it seems flawed, in the way it makes things slower, completely the wrong effect 01.57.31 # i gathered that much :) 01.57.35 # Heh 01.58.12 # TrueJournals: remove it from system_init() in firmware/system.c 01.58.35 # ok 01.58.35 # To be honest, this is the one commit I have truly been looking forward to, full performance would be great :p. 01.58.45 # Or atleast, enhanced performance. 01.59.53 # Oh curse this 6gb H10 and it's stupidly small screen... 02.00.00 Join andrewg_ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162083173.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 02.00.04 Quit atsea-196 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.00.06 # * Genre9mp3 dances the "yet another new game plugin" dance 02.00.08 # meh - it is a _music_ player 02.00.17 # True enough 02.00.31 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 02.01.14 # Soul-Slayer: small screen=less time spent by the cpu updating it 02.01.19 # so it's not all bad 02.01.34 # I suppose so, yes. 02.02.41 # Has frozen out a lot of the plugins that could have been perfectly viable however, annoying, but of course, can't have everything. I am just glad it was ported to the H10 at all :p 02.02.59 Join atsea-196 [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-cb8f4aebfee6a697) 02.03.29 # some people are doing work on adapting plugins to the smaller screen. there have been a few new ones recently 02.03.44 # Yes, I noticed the RockBoy one, that was a nice addition 02.04.23 Join hcs [0] (n=hcs@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 02.05.35 # yeah, I just recently saw the rockboy one too 02.05.42 # yay rockboy :-D 02.05.47 # Heh 02.05.49 Part hcs 02.05.56 # too bad it's slow and the sound is really... messed up... 02.06.03 # Haha, yes, too true. 02.06.15 # And the text is hard to read (On the 5/6gb model that is) 02.06.23 # Soul-Slayer: have you tried rockboy on your H10? I was hoping someone would test to see if they could reproduce my bug... 02.06.26 # But that's due to it being scaled of course 02.06.31 # Yes, I have rockboy on my H10 02.06.52 # text isn't that bad to read on 20 GB 02.07.06 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.07.09 # Soul-Slayer: you get the same crash i do? 02.07.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.07.15 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 02.07.35 # I did read through your problem, and I have no trouble changing my scaling to other options 02.07.45 # I shall try again however, give me a moment. 02.08.42 # Okay, loading ROM. 02.09.06 # try loading a rom. entering the menu. change a settting, then back out of the menu 02.09.12 # Menu -> Options -> Changed 'Max Frameskip' to 3 max rather than 4 max 02.09.15 # it's not just changing scaling that causes it 02.09.25 # Hit the back button... Still playing my ROM 02.09.35 # I trust you have tried other ROMs? 02.09.42 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.09.51 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 02.10.40 # Re-entered options to turn that infernal racket it calls 'sound' off, hit back to leave the main menu and still playing 02.10.46 # i tried two roms 02.11.03 # so it's just on 20GB then 02.11.15 # Interesting... TrueJournals, you have the 20GB model I believe? Do you get this problem? 02.11.18 # TrueJournals: have you experienced my bug? 02.11.23 Quit andrewg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.11.56 # no, I haven't 02.12.12 # How strange... 02.12.39 # Did you patch it yourself True, or use the mini build on misticriver? 02.12.46 # patched it myself 02.12.51 # Hmm 02.13.15 # Can only imagine you are both using different SVN's 02.13.19 # I'm building another build right now without the ipod_set_cpu_frequency as barry suggested... I'll try again when this is done 02.13.24 # And something recently messed up 02.13.29 # Okay. 02.13.30 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.204.142) 02.13.31 # maybe it's just the two roms i have 02.13.42 # Hmm. 02.13.56 # Soul-Slayer: it only happens the first time i run rockboy after powering on 02.14.38 # I literally powered on and went straight into a ROM to test, so I imagine it would be the same scenario you are having in this case 02.14.57 # Can only be your ROMs 02.15.01 # I think :p 02.16.05 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.16.24 # i'll try some different ones 02.16.31 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97A5B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.17.33 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.17.57 # They definitely have the .gb or .gbc extension? 02.18.18 # yup 02.18.24 # and they run fine otherwise 02.18.30 # Hm 02.18.31 # well, slow, but fine 02.18.39 # Slow is to be expected I guess 02.19.46 # until someone optimises 02.20.07 # I commended out the ipod_set_cpu_frequency and now scrolling is really jaggy... it'll scroll like 5 files, pause, scroll, pause... 02.20.20 # Ouch 02.20.25 # and it says there's disk activity... 02.20.45 # everything seems to be responding WAY slower... 02.21.08 # it's taking quite a while to boot up... 02.21.31 # but, the resetting bug was solved... so it seems to be something with ipod_set_cpu_frequency 02.21.44 # I must leave. Best of luck with the KoCOP and Rockboy Barry and True. 02.21.56 # bye Soul-Slayer 02.22.02 # see ya 02.22.10 Quit Soul-Slayer ("Leaving.") 02.22.31 # TrueJournals: it's probably running at a slow cpu frequency now 02.22.40 # I would say so :-p 02.22.53 # it's actually loading rockboy right now... 02.22.59 # and loading... 02.23.26 # i had some success when i wrote my own ipod_set_cpu_frequency based of my cpufreq4 patch 02.25.10 # there was somewhere in debug where I'm able to specify CPU boosting.. where is that? 02.25.11 Quit gamkiller (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.25.31 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 02.25.42 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.26.44 # If I go to debug --> View HW info, it just shows a blank screen. Is that supposed to happen? 02.27.42 Part KCC 02.27.46 # TrueJournals: i only gives the option to boost when frequency scaling is enabled 02.27.58 # ah 02.28.07 # here's the version of ipod_set_cpu_frequency() that worked for me before: http://pastebin.ca/333681 02.28.10 Join KCC [0] (n=a@CPE0018e7004bcf-CM001225708556.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.28.24 # thanks... I'll try that 02.28.33 # you could try using it and putting the call back into system_init() 02.29.19 # I'll try... 02.29.38 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.210.91) 02.30.15 Quit |Rincewind| ("Cya") 02.31.33 Join gamkiller [0] (i=1001@c83-250-79-230.bredband.comhem.se) 02.34.14 Quit inversions (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.34.24 # ok... rebuilding... 02.34.58 # system.c: In function 'ipod_set_cpu_frequency': 02.34.58 # system.c:774: error: 'PLL_CONTROL' undeclared (first use in this function) 02.34.58 # system.c:774: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 02.34.58 DBUG Enqueued KICK TrueJournals 02.34.58 # system.c:774: error: for each function it appears in.) 02.34.58 # system.c:789: error: 'CLK_SRC' undeclared (first use in this function) 02.34.59 *** Alert Mode level 1 02.34.59 # system.c:789: error: 'CLK_SRC_24MHZ' undeclared (first use in this function) 02.35.01 *** Alert Mode level 2 02.35.01 # system.c:839: error: 'CLK_SRC_PLL' undeclared (first use in this function) 02.35.03 # make[1]: *** [/home/user/rockbox-20070128/h10-build/firmware/system.o] Error 1 02.35.05 # make: *** [all] Error 2 02.35.31 # ah, ok. you need a bit more. hang on a sec... 02.35.42 # ok 02.37.11 # http://pastebin.ca/333695 02.37.29 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 02.37.34 # i'm not sure if that patch will apply cleanly, but it should be easy to resolve any conflits 02.37.37 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 02.37.38 # conflicts 02.37.45 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.37.52 # ok 02.40.51 # applied cleanly actually... except for the COP_HI_INT_STAT stuff which was already in there :-p 02.40.59 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.41.04 # cool 02.41.10 # ok, now it's working... 02.41.24 # (well, it's building) 02.44.36 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.45.02 *** Alert Mode OFF 02.45.52 Quit atsea-196 (Remote closed the connection) 02.47.54 # building is a bit slow right now... 02.49.11 Join atsea-196 [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e796ca756ec5780c) 02.49.32 # i applied this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5199 (fix-lcdshutdown3.patch) to the current build, it produces the error: 02.49.55 # /home/rick/tijdelijk/rockbox-bleeding/build/librockbox.a(powermgmt.o): In function `shutdown_hw': 02.49.55 # powermgmt.c:(.text.shutdown_hw+0x138): undefined reference to `lcd_shutdown' 02.49.55 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 02.50.41 # do you have an ipod mini 2g? 02.50.50 # nope, ipod nano 02.50.55 # but i have the same problem 02.51.03 # well, then that patch isn't for you 02.51.10 # it's a completely different lcd driver 02.51.58 # I was hoping it would work for ipod nano as well (as was the author of the patch apparently) 02.53.02 # well, it obviously won't work for ipod nano since the code he changed isn't even compiled for the nano :) 02.53.24 # uh, his latest version does 02.54.01 # "#if defined(IPOD_MINI) || defined(IPOD_MINI2G) || defined(IPOD_COLOR) || define 02.54.02 # d(IPOD_NANO) || defined(IPOD_3G) || defined(IPOD_4G)" 02.54.10 # no, it doenst 02.54.17 # that ifdef is incorrect 02.54.35 # he probably didn't notice that lcd-ipod.c has two parts, one for bw and one for color ipods 02.55.03 # oh, so that's why it has an undefined reference 02.55.10 # makes sense 02.55.18 # and the colors has a completely different chip, so the same code will most likely not work there 02.56.15 # :( 02.57.26 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.58.31 # I'll comment on the bug report mentioned above, hopefully someone will look into it 02.58.47 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.00.03 Quit Thundercloud__ (Remote closed the connection) 03.00.34 # barrywardell: I just got the new version onto my h10, but it still seems slow... 03.00.51 # do I need to recompile the bootloader too? 03.01.44 # possibly. it's worth a try. it could be that there is something in the playback.c changes either 03.02.08 # ok, let me do that.. 03.03.47 Quit Genre9mp3 () 03.05.08 # Mikachu, thanks for the help 03.05.12 # I'm off to sleep 03.10.06 # baryywardell: booting with new bootloader... and it still seems slow... 03.10.34 # yup, still slow, and harddrive activity icon is still like eternally on 03.11.48 # I gotta go right now... I'll be back in like 10 - 20 minutes 03.11.52 # hmmm. is it only slow while reading from disk? 03.12.02 # i'm off to sleep now 03.12.11 # let me know if you discover anything else 03.12.13 # it's slow when doing everything 03.12.15 # ok 03.12.18 # see ya 03.12.21 # bye 03.12.24 Part barrywardell 03.12.26 Part TrueJournals 03.14.04 Part pixelma 03.19.20 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: TASTES GREAT! LESS FILLING! TASTES GREAT! LESS FILLING!") 03.24.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6326 03.24.07 # i concur 03.24.19 # there's an "artifact" 03.28.20 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.33.35 # hmm mpegplayerplugin works, but after some time (i'd guess about 3 mins), the audio stops, and it doesn't respond to anything but menu+select reboot. the video keeps playing though. 03.34.26 # whatever.. need sleep 03.37.02 Quit tamacracker ("Leaving") 03.37.04 Join adam1302 [0] (i=cbab4195@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-15ea726efdf2f4c7) 03.37.16 Join sonnybobiche [0] (n=staveito@dyn-shp-226-145.dyn.columbia.edu) 03.37.43 # hi does anyone know where i can download the rockboy plugin for my sansa 03.37.45 # umm rockbox on my video ipod keeps freezing and not responding to control for hours. i cant even turn it off 03.38.08 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host47-213-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 03.38.22 # but it keeps playing music 03.38.45 Join phrozen77_ [0] (n=phrozen7@pD9EC656C.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.39.21 # like... i can get the backlight to turn on... but i can't change the volume or skip tracks or anything like that 03.39.26 # screen doesnt update 03.39.40 # been happening for several builds now 03.40.07 Join zokeuz [0] (n=deejay@modemcable167.68-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.42.23 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.42.39 # does anyone know where i can download the rockboy plugin for my sansa 03.43.01 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 03.43.11 # I don't think they've ported it to sansa yet 03.43.21 # so you can't get it... if you could, it would come with rockbox 03.43.29 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.43.35 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 03.44.51 # although, since there's not even audio support on the sansa port... I don't see why you'd want rockbox on it at this point... 03.44.53 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 03.45.59 Nick zokeuz is now known as deejay-fuzion (n=deejay@modemcable167.68-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.46.42 Quit adam1302 ("CGI:IRC") 03.47.52 # your welcome... 03.47.59 # *you're... 03.50.20 Quit tamacracker ("Leaving") 03.51.54 # hey 03.51.58 # truejournals 03.51.59 # there? 03.52.14 # hey 03.52.21 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.52.25 # yeah, sorry, wasn't watching the window :-p 03.52.27 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.52.41 # np 03.52.46 # read PM 03.53.14 # didn't get a PM... O_o 03.54.02 # you have to be registered with nickserv to send a pm 03.54.07 # ok 03.54.11 # unless the person you sent it to allows it 03.54.11 # now read o_O 03.54.17 # which is not the default 03.54.17 Quit phrozen77 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.54.20 # ohh 03.54.31 # how do I change my setting then? 03.54.41 # ah, got it 03.57.46 Quit Doomed_9 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.03.56 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d206-116-140-208.bchsia.telus.net) 04.05.11 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 04.07.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.07.28 Quit deejay-fuzion () 04.10.52 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.11.15 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.21 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.11.22 Join andrewg [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162089160.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 04.12.36 Join Vyrus001 [0] (n=Vyrus001@adsl-69-231-43-211.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 04.24.08 Quit andrewg_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.25.17 Quit homielowe (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.25.27 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d206-116-140-208.bchsia.telus.net) 04.25.44 Quit homielowe (Client Quit) 04.29.19 Join maretard [0] (i=18627143@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ac664146dd2b9346) 04.31.50 # yo truejournals 04.31.52 # you there? 04.32.11 Join G|iTch_ [0] (i=GliTch_@24-171-53-170.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 04.32.16 Join thanatonaute [0] (n=ubuntu@x101-182-253-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) 04.32.22 # yeah, I 04.32.27 # *I'm here 04.32.52 # uh yeah 04.32.58 # that zip file was corrupted 04.32.58 # Hi. I bricked my Sansa e200 after installing hebrew beta, and am trying to Mr. H's e200 tools under Ubuntu 04.33.04 # NICE! :D 04.33.14 # hm... the whole zip file, or the rockbox.zip? 04.33.19 # anyway, that zip file was corrupted, i could extract the big file but the zip file inside the zip file was corrupted 04.33.21 # rockbox.zip 04.33.33 # hold on a second... 04.33.34 # I am using "gcc -o e200tool e200tool.c -lusb" to compile using the latest release of the source, but it won't compile :( 04.33.39 # kk 04.34.16 # hmm.. you're right 04.34.20 # yep ^_^ 04.34.24 # unexpected end of archive 04.34.29 # unfortunately... I have to go right now so I can't get you a good version 04.34.34 # well... maybe I can 04.34.34 # cool, s'all good 04.34.37 # o_O? 04.34.49 # *goes as fast as I can...* 04.34.52 # it's okay, take your time, i won't die without video hahahahaaha 04.34.56 # lol 04.35.07 # Is there a tutorial on using e200tools to unbrick Sansa e200? THANKS. 04.35.34 # sorry, don't know about the sansa port :-\ 04.38.11 # ah.. thanks :) 04.38.21 # np ^_^ 04.38.31 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 04.39.44 Nick thanatonaute is now known as thana-brickedSan (n=ubuntu@x101-182-253-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) 04.39.59 Nick thana-brickedSan is now known as brickedSanE200 (n=ubuntu@x101-182-253-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) 04.40.26 # OK, uploading GOOD rockbox.zip 04.41.07 # http://rapidshare.com/files/14190353/rockbox.zip - try that 04.41.21 # ah sweet 04.41.21 # h/o 04.41.30 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.41.43 # agh i hate the 30 second wait T_T 04.41.45 # * grumbles * :D 04.41.54 # lol 04.42.47 # OK, well, now I gotta go 04.42.57 # I was just able to extract the file though, so you should have no problem 04.42.58 # see ya 04.42.58 Quit tamacracker ("Leaving") 04.43.03 Part TrueJournals 04.43.04 # cool 04.43.07 # thanks man 04.43.12 Quit maretard ("CGI:IRC") 04.48.04 Quit GliTch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.51.54 # i have a question for the gigabeat users 04.52.01 Nick G|iTch_ is now known as GliTch_ (i=GliTch_@24-171-53-170.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 04.53.06 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.53.14 # just loaded rb and it comes up to a screen that says "hold menu when booting for rescue mode" is rb loaded and what do i need to do next or did i screw up? 04.53.27 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.53.36 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.53.53 # i have a question for the gigabeat users 04.53.55 # just loaded rb and it comes up to a screen that says "hold menu when booting for rescue mode" is rb loaded and what do i need to do next or did i screw up? 04.54.00 Quit tamacracker (Client Quit) 04.54.06 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.54.31 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.54.38 # at the bottom it says rockbox error -1 04.55.02 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.00.48 # guess you didnt extract the actual rockbox files to ur gigabeat 05.01.10 # read the beginning part of the manual 05.03.47 Part sonnybobiche 05.04.16 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzz") 05.06.30 Quit tamacracker ("Leaving") 05.06.32 Join andrewg_ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162091093.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 05.09.02 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.09.24 Quit tamacracker (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.09.29 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.09.49 Join tamacracker_ [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.10.08 Quit tamacracker (Client Quit) 05.10.10 Join tamacracker__ [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.10.16 Quit brickedSanE200 ("Ex-Chat") 05.10.31 Quit tamacracker_ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.17.22 Quit andrewg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.17.22 Quit Ghoulunat () 05.24.28 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B96289.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.25.22 Join combrains [0] (n=combrain@125-237-197-50.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 05.32.44 Quit tamacracker__ (Remote closed the connection) 05.33.02 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@dxb-as3690.alshamil.net.ae) 05.38.04 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B145CA.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.42.00 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.43.05 Quit Tman (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.52.53 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.55.44 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.57.54 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.02.01 Quit rds ("Leaving") 06.07.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.08.24 # JdGordon: ping 06.12.56 # daurnimator: pong 06.13.11 # ? 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06.49.08 # and i have to reload a config manually to get it to go into effect, temporarily. i could fix this i guess, with fixed.cfg, but.. it's a bug nevertheless. 06.49.20 # i guess you just overlooked it? 06.50.29 # which settings? 06.51.10 # all the hardware eq ones. 06.51.19 # gain, cutoff.. 06.51.44 # software eqs save ok tho? 06.52.01 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-65-24-91-251.columbus.res.rr.com) 06.52.46 # i haven't tried. 06.52.48 # i don't use it. 06.52.58 # hardware eq is the same thing, but doesn't suck CPU. :) 06.53.05 # hmm.... ok they apear to save coreclty here... so tey must work 06.53.08 # hw eq tho.... 06.53.14 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 06.53.23 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.53.37 # unless #ifdef HAVE_WM8758 is wrong? 06.53.46 # I dont see why they wouldnt work 06.53.53 # ... mean from a quick glance 06.53.59 # that seems wrong... 06.54.01 Quit GliTch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.54.07 # hw eq only works on 5G as far as i know. 06.54.16 # isn't that ifdef for an archos chip? 06.54.48 # oh, that is right. 06.54.49 # anyone here willing to (privatly) help me with h10 non-rockbox related issues? 06.54.50 # no... the wm is definatly right.... dunno if that is the right version tho 06.55.05 # 8758 is right.. 06.55.16 # http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html 06.55.21 # 14 Aug 2006 10:52 06.55.58 # are the settings written to the config file wrongly? or not at all? 06.56.03 # i mean.. you know what i'm saying, right? they aren't actually *saved* to the config file. they were saved to the config sector when it existed. 06.56.22 # they load and work fine from an alternate cfg file, but they just aren't saved correctly (at all?) 06.56.32 # .. in the new config file loaded at startup. 06.57.08 Quit khalsa (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 06.57.29 # hm. 06.57.40 # looks to me like perhaps the gain settings are not saved, but the cutoffs are. 06.59.41 # HA! found the possible problem 06.59.47 # full of typos :p 06.59.54 # haha. 06.59.57 # serves me right for coding after midnight i guess 06.59.57 # you clumsy. 07.00.03 # copy/paste errors 07.00.04 # yeah 07.00.07 # better run a spellcheck on the entire source.. :) 07.00.25 # hehe na there is 0's instead of 4 and 3 07.00.29 # ill fix that now 07.00.45 # cool, then i can test it. 07.00.48 # only 3 mistakes 07.02.03 # midkay: you want a patch? 07.02.25 Quit thegeek () 07.02.55 # you can just commit it if you want. 07.03.41 # I could... but if it doesnt fix all the problems there isnt any point 07.03.52 # it 07.03.53 # http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/hweqfix.patch 07.03.59 # it'll surely fix one, right? :) 07.04.02 # *sighs* ALRIGHT alright!!! 07.04.19 # hopefully :p 07.07.33 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 07.08.15 # erm. 07.08.27 # no good? 07.08.38 # oh, ok, never mind. 07.08.48 # out of date revision i'm working with. 07.09.13 # the first 2 changes are probably bad.... 07.09.30 # yeah, remove the first section from the patch or it might not work correctly 07.10.19 # my current revision of settings_list has like 550 lines.. the latest has like 700. 07.10.47 # k, *tests* 07.12.03 # works! 07.12.08 # thanks. 07.12.38 # great 07.18.33 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 07.20.54 Nick lex_ is now known as lex (i=lex@evot.us) 07.22.24 Join the_conley [0] (n=conley@72.29.61.219) 07.25.56 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 07.26.28 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.26.39 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.27.10 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.29.20 Join GliTch_ [0] (i=GliTch_@24-171-53-170.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 07.30.56 # someone highlight me please 07.31.20 # JdGordon: You mean like this? 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What would you think about the following. There is the region setting for FM radio. What if we could put that setting into fmr-files? And it would be set if the file is loaded? Then the files would be self consistent. Like WPS files where it's possible to switch the status bar on or off. 08.40.12 Quit akaias (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.40.21 Quit phrozen77_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.42.57 Quit NuclearDog (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.43.41 Join phrozen77_ [0] (n=phrozen7@pD9EC656C.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.43.51 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-76-16-18-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 08.45.03 Join rp- [0] (n=rp@195.230.168.108) 08.45.40 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.46.46 Quit zuzu_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.48.16 Nick phrozen77_ is now known as phrozen77 (n=phrozen7@pD9EC656C.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.48.58 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-6429ed43939f3a29) 08.50.59 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17F27.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.52.51 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 08.53.00 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 08.53.39 # dan_a: are you there? 08.57.29 # we advance to the next level of realllly low level e200 hacks now 08.57.56 # upcoming post in the "bricked e200" thread... 08.59.12 Quit zylche (Connection timed out) 09.00.46 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.02.10 # its actually been bricked? 09.02.31 # great Bagder, time to write a how to for all those "i can brick my sansa" guys :) 09.02.36 # well, "bricked" is a bit of a gray area on the sansa 09.02.57 Join decayedcell [0] (n=ubuntu@ppp93-193.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 09.03.13 # many sansas have been "bricked" but they guys never actually try to recover 09.03.15 Quit phrozen77 ("All generalizations are false.") 09.03.26 # i have a question about the bootloader - what does it look for to boot into iPL 09.03.44 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 09.04.20 # isn't that mentioned in the manual? 09.04.37 # I'll have a look 09.04.45 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 09.05.03 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-43fe9c24b850c975) 09.05.29 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.06.12 # Whoah, this sansa is a strange device... 09.06.26 # 9.4. Firmware Loading 09.06.26 # 9.4.1. Using ROLO (Rockbox loader) 09.06.26 # Rockbox is able to load and start another firmware file without rebooting. You just “play” a file with the extension .ipod. This can be used to test new firmware versions without deleting your current version. 09.06.36 # All those pre/extra/recovery/special modes... and still brickable 09.06.44 # that section doesn't mention iPL at all 09.06.54 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 09.07.03 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.09.13 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.16 # Afaik the sansas are the only rockbox targets with reported bricks... am I wrong? 09.09.24 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@222.76.229.178) 09.09.30 # I think you're right 09.09.58 # Hmm, perhaps this one archos with broken flash rom must be counted as well 09.10.46 # but it's weird how many users managed to "brick" their sansa 09.10.54 # indeed 09.10.58 Quit JoeBorn (Nick collision from services.) 09.11.04 Nick JoeyBorn is now known as JoeBorn (n=rootmeis@222.76.229.178) 09.11.07 # I find it amusing that the sansa has no less than _four_ usb modes 09.11.14 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.11.33 # four? recovery, manufacture, normal( mtp, msc) ? 09.11.49 # did i miss one? 09.11.49 # the one I just posted about is pre-manufacturing mode 09.12.06 # haha know i got it :) 09.12.06 # so its pre, manu, recovery, normal 09.12.13 # crazy 09.12.39 # odd design 09.12.54 Join decayedcell_ [0] (n=ubuntu@ppp205-199.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net) 09.13.07 # do you know if it's the same on the c200 series? 09.13.16 # no, but it seems likely 09.13.35 # rp-: I'm here now! 09.14.06 # dan_a: fine, did you read the sansa port thread? 09.14.18 # Any comments on the idea about the fmr files (see above)? Has it been discussed before? 09.14.36 # rp-: I'm just having a look 09.15.41 Join phrozen77 [0] (n=phrozen7@pD9EC656C.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.16.29 # dan_a: because i tested some things and wrote a debugfile in the power_off() function, and it worked 09.17.37 # Nice :D I tried using the emulator results to read the battery level, but all that did was mess the screen up 09.18.19 # is it just me or are the forums not loading 09.18.27 # nevermind 09.18.54 # dan_a: but why would the i2c functions not work in the power_off()? 09.18.56 # decayedcell: they're always slow this time of day 09.19.06 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC") 09.19.20 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-872470da023b2a04) 09.19.22 Quit zefie (Remote closed the connection) 09.20.07 # rp-: I don't know - Toni says that the power_off() function is never reached 09.21.07 # dan_a: hm i can't confirm that, in my tests it got called when i hold the power off button 09.21.11 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-69-154-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 09.21.43 # dan_a: can you try the code from toni? 09.21.54 # I'll have a play with that this evening and see if I can get it working correctly. 09.23.03 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 09.23.12 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.25.18 Quit decayedcell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.25.56 # i'll try too, when i'm at home 09.26.43 Quit decayedcell_ (Remote closed the connection) 09.29.18 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 09.29.26 # now i'm interested if i can find some backlight code in the BL firmware or i have to disassemble the original firmwar :/ 09.30.47 # I don't remember the bootloader turning off the backlight - however MrH says that it does check if it is on. 09.31.46 # Hmm... Nobody who travels lot listens to the radio. Ok, forget the idea. 09.32.06 # Or I'll make a patch. That's probably the best idea :-) 09.32.28 # webguest20: now we're talking 09.32.30 # i will look at it, i can also try to find out how to read out the battery, i remember some string "Battery is low" in the BL 09.32.57 # webguest20: Making a patch would be a good idea - the only targets which I have with a radio can't use it yet! 09.33.59 # rp-: If you have a look at the Sansa emulator in Flyspray, there is a file consisting of the reads and writes done to read the battery level 09.34.02 Quit midgey () 09.34.16 # LinusN: you mean you like the patch idea? But would be useful in your opinion? 09.34.32 # would *it* be 09.34.37 # how does the emulator work? didn't try it yet, can it boot the original firmware? 09.34.46 # webguest20: most patches start off by being useful to just one person - the person that writes them :) 09.35.15 # rp-: It can't boot the original firmware yet, but it can run the Sansa bootloader IIUC 09.35.36 # GodEater: but if there's little to no chance for it to get committed I wouldn't bother 09.35.54 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.35.57 # rp-: FS#6524 09.36.03 # dan_a: very nice, thx 09.36.22 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97AEB.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.36.42 # webguest20: your idea is to be able to set the fm region in .fmr files? 09.37.04 # LinusN: yes. Like status bar in WPS 09.37.19 # sounds like a pretty useful thing to me 09.37.35 # * dan_a goes to work 09.37.42 Quit dan_a () 09.37.47 # last time you said that it got removed shortly after commiting :D 09.37.51 # makes the fmr files self-contained 09.37.54 # @ LinusN :p 09.37.57 # JdGordon: haha 09.38.04 # LinusN: I'm not sure whether it's really useful (who travels that much?) but logical it is (IMHO) 09.38.18 # shouldnt be too hard to add 09.38.42 # Actually, I travel that much. I'd just never used the radio anywhere other than home coz it was always a pita 09.38.46 # LinusN: Finally we meet!! Could you take a quick look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4770#comment12612 09.39.21 # Basically the questions are (1) should the H300 be drawing 500mA when USB charging 09.39.44 # (2) Is the reported current in Windows 2000 wrong? 09.39.55 # Well, that regional setting is not very relevant, the entries in the fmr file are. So the benefit won't be very great. But still... That setting belongs there IMHO 09.40.20 # pondlife: it should draw 500mA in "hub mode", iirc 09.41.10 # So 100mA charging is expected in Rockbox, based on our current (aha!) knowledge? 09.41.28 # If so, I will commit this 09.42.47 # Also, it seem that http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments#PCF50606_GPO is wrong - as per Massa's comment. Do you agree? 09.43.15 # i.e. GPOOD2 is USB charge enable, not GPOOD0 09.43.45 # If so, do we know what GPOOD0 does? 09.44.09 # perplexity: why is this a pita for you? Too much trouble to swith the fmr? Or what? 09.44.14 Join tucoz [0] (i=528612c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e553e396a37605ca) 09.44.52 # s/swith/switch/ 09.45.16 # yeah, to be honest I just had issues shuffling things around every time I got off a plane. it's been so long since I played with it now I'm every rusty on the specifics. I just gave up on radio when I was not home. 09.45.38 # I'll sit down tomorrow and actually refresh myself on what I found was such a pain 09.46.18 # linuxstb: i saw that IPL infor is missing in the manual. The question is, should this be mentioned? I think it should, if it is not too hard to keep track of ipod linux changes. 09.47.15 # i think it would be a nice addition to describe how to use the rockbox bootloader for triple booting (rockbox, ipl, of) 09.47.35 # perplexity: then... until then! 09.47.38 Part webguest20 09.47.40 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 09.47.53 # pondlife: another question is where the uda1380 reset is connected 09.48.15 # Indeed. Did you do the original pin traces? 09.48.27 # yes i did 09.48.54 # I did some software poking at GPOOD0, but it didn't produce any obvious effects! 09.49.20 # * pondlife kept an eye on his H340 for smoke. 09.49.56 # LinusN: i think the high pitched buzzing is back in Slasheris bootloader for the h120 09.51.15 # tucoz: oh 09.51.16 # the occasional buzzing that is. as the fw is flashed, it only last for maybe half a second. 09.52.01 # i have noticed it two times lately, and this was after i installed the newest bootlader 09.53.30 # I remember you fixed that, some time in the summer in 2005. 09.54.39 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 09.54.53 # pondlife: my understanding is that you don't enable charging, but you instead set the allowed current draw (hi/low) 09.55.29 # tucoz: hmm, buzzing.. what do you mean with that? 09.56.13 # the buzzing i fixed came from resetting the UDA1380 09.56.18 # All I can say is that GPOOD2 seems to control the charging, and that Win2K reports 100mA current draw with either setting. 09.56.45 # ah, weird.. then that might be an issue, iirc when loading ram/rom image, uda is not reset 09.57.39 # With pcf50606_write(0x39, 0x00) the reported battery % increases during connection, without it does not (or does slowly, maybe) 09.57.50 # but rely on rockbox doing the reset 09.59.20 # pondlife: i'll see if i can find the time to do a trace later tiday 09.59.22 # today 09.59.26 # Great 09.59.45 # Slasheri: the issue was only on some h120's, and LinusN fixed it some time during the summer of 2005. 09.59.49 # I'll keep an eye on the wiki 09.59.55 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html#usbmodes 10.00.11 # * Bagder tries to sum up the weirdness 10.00.22 # tucoz: i wonder if those h120's also have the loud ticking issue... 10.00.37 # Could i check that somehow? 10.01.23 # Bagder: Hmm, so the Euro Sansa DOES have an FM tuner! 10.01.26 # That is with the remote right? 10.01.30 # I missed that. 10.01.42 # E200 is back on my list then 10.01.46 # pondlife: claimed by my contact yes, contradicted by others 10.01.47 # tucoz: yes 10.02.04 # Bagder: could be both :-) 10.02.15 # yes, it might differ 10.02.20 # * tucoz makes a mental note that he should try to find the old remote when he gets home 10.02.22 # "yes, we disable it in software, because the chip isn't mounted" 10.02.30 # hehe 10.02.35 # Or maybe some Euro ones are actually leftovers from elsewhere? 10.02.43 # I actually asked specificly if the hw was different 10.02.52 # * LinusN recalls the Archos FM/V2 story 10.02.54 # So most have no chip, but occasionally one will have. 10.03.06 # yes I figure that might be the case 10.03.06 # * pondlife reminisces 10.03.12 # perhaps the first euro ones had the chip 10.03.17 # i've ordered my new portable player 10.03.28 # Bagder: like the archos v2 10.03.34 # yah 10.03.50 # directhex|work: so, which one is it? 10.04.26 # markun, a gigabeat f40 10.04.36 # nice 10.04.38 # Can anyone describe how the Gigabeat F control works? It looks like 2 touch sliders; isn't that a bit odd to use? 10.04.56 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 10.05.09 # pondlife: worked quite well in the OF 10.05.19 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.05.20 # pondlife, haven't the faintest idea. someone just recommended the gigabeat as the best rockbox platform 10.05.28 # Certainly the best CPU. 10.05.46 # but we just use it as a 4 direction joystick with 'select' in the middle 10.05.46 # battery life seems good, and i like the screen 10.05.48 # Bagder: looks like the manual builds are broken -- the timestamp shown is of yesterday 10.06.05 # bluebrother: prolly the iconv thing... 10.06.24 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97E43.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.06.25 # bluebrother: what would it take to convert the manual to utf8? 10.06.35 # is usb msc mode implemented in some PP target? 10.06.43 # first, make sure utf8 support is installed on all manual build machines 10.06.52 # rp-: nope 10.07.06 # second, change the inputenc line in the preamble to use utf8x instead of latin1 10.07.15 # rp-: but Barry has started on it a bit 10.07.21 # and last, remove the iconv call from the makefile 10.07.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.07.38 # the main issue is that utf8 support isn't part of a standard latex installation 10.07.38 # rp-: since we know from where to get "inspiration" for it (i.MX) 10.07.55 # could we add the package to the source tree? 10.07.57 # and, afaik, it is not only a style file we could simply ship with the sources 10.08.00 # bluebrother: what do i have to apt-get? 10.08.10 # Bagder: ok thx, would be the next nice think to have on the sansa 10.08.24 Quit bun-bun () 10.08.24 # LinusN: sorry, no idea. I 10.08.29 # rp-: indeed, and it is probably the very same for all PP targets 10.08.30 # I'm a Fedora guy ;-) 10.08.39 # Hmm, GodEater's build machine suffers from the same (?) gcc problem as lostlogic's... 10.08.45 # oh, is speex supported as well as vorbis? 10.09.21 # no 10.09.45 # fedora has a package called tetex-unicode 10.09.45 # directhex|work: I believe there's speex codec in the works in the patch tracker 10.10.41 # hmm. Just looked in the unicode package page again 10.10.58 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.11.27 # maybe we could put the files into the source tree 10.11.40 # tucoz: can you test that out? 10.12.04 # http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ucs/INSTALL 10.12.45 # seems I remembered the installation stuff wrongly 10.13.05 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 10.13.10 Quit wooo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.13.25 # no, i am not at home right now 10.13.50 # i can try it out this evening 10.14.00 # btw, VirtualBox works great 10.14.17 # feels really snappy. 10.15.50 # pondlife: yes it does - and until gentoo fix their GCC build - there's nothing I can do about it 10.16.05 # did you manage to use the shard folder thing on VirtualBox? 10.16.24 # iconv: illegal input sequence at position 6664 10.17.16 Quit upsioned () 10.17.44 # GodEater: Sorry, was just noticing - thought this might become a more widespread issue :( 10.18.19 # It only affects the sim builds, right? 10.18.39 # Maybe a nasty hack to the build system to mark some servers as non-sim only? 10.19.02 # no nastyness needed 10.19.17 # we have support for that 10.19.26 # bluebrother: i haven't tried 10.19.32 # bbl 10.19.34 Part tucoz 10.20.05 # pondlife: no problem - it's just I don't intend to replace my native gcc with one from outside the portage tree 10.20.13 # and yes it only affects the sim builds 10.20.27 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|food (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 10.20.30 # So if you're fed more non-sim and less sim builds, we can all be happy 10.20.51 # if the yellow in the build table bothers you that much - then yes ;) 10.21.08 # let's ban all gentoo servers :-) 10.21.17 # actually, all the red build bother me a whole lot more 10.21.21 # builds 10.21.22 # Me too 10.21.28 # and amiconn :-) 10.21.28 # I remember the days of ALL GREEN 10.21.30 # and I mostly blame amiconn ;-) 10.21.46 # I want those builds disabled or stripped 10.21.49 # why not disable sim builds for the naughty servers? 10.21.55 # speaking of that, how's the langv2 patch these days? 10.22.00 # you want my server for suim builds? 10.22.54 # all your servers are belong to us 10.24.41 # we could even re-introduced the nasty cpp hack to fix the warnings 10.25.04 # it would of course need to be even hairer to properly detect the gcc versions 10.25.30 # hairy hairyer ? 10.25.37 # Anyone know if the langv2 patch going to fix the red builds, or is there still further work there? 10.25.41 # Bagder: :-) 10.25.42 # tricky word ;-) 10.25.44 # can you build a gcc for 32bit x86 on 64bitx86? 10.25.45 # hmm, seems I got utf8 working here. Now something different is breaking :-/ 10.25.56 # bluebrother: lovely :-) 10.26.20 # looks like I'll need to uninstall the unicode stuff at home tonight to test it. 10.26.26 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 10.26.40 # pondlife: even it it would fix the current reds, it would only be a tiny matter of time before they break again 10.27.04 # there's no future in craming everything in on the archos flashes 10.27.12 # Bagder: amen to that 10.27.21 # it is only amiconn who thinks that 10.27.36 Quit petur ("reboot") 10.28.18 # so the question is, would archos users still like to flash rockbox? if so, we need to make feature-stripped one for flash 10.28.34 # i.e a different build 10.28.35 # It's still possible to flash rockbox 10.28.36 # Didn't tagcache/database already get stripped from rombox? 10.28.57 # I see no point in stripping down rockbox in order to make rombox fit 10.29.04 # can we do a few different builds (weekly) for rombox so people who want different stuff excluded can still be happy? 10.29.13 # amiconn: then we stop building it? 10.29.40 # Either it fits as-is, or it doesn't 10.29.51 # But I still think that it's possible to make it fit 10.29.54 # and it doesn't... 10.30.01 # amiconn: ...for now... 10.30.49 # and clearly it being "possible" still has left the red builds in there for ages 10.31.13 # since obviously not many care 10.31.27 # ... or just stop it making the table red on rombox failure? 10.31.42 # then what would the point be to build it? 10.31.49 # [IDC]Dragon does, and he has a stripped-down bootbox, which just needs to be committed 10.32.14 # I thought you just said a stripped-down version was pointless? 10.32.23 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 10.32.25 # Bagder: of *bootbox* 10.32.29 # ah 10.32.32 # *bootbox*, not rockbox 10.32.34 # * Bagder gets confused 10.32.43 # Bagder: "gets" :-) 10.32.43 # And it only strips things not needed in bootbox 10.32.56 # Bagder: you have always been confused 10.33.03 # I think that keeping down binary size is a good thing in general, not only for archos 10.33.14 # wow. tetex 1.0 installation on my old box. That is _really_ outdated 10.33.21 # LinusN: it was from "very confused" down to just "confused" ;-) 10.33.31 # * amiconn reminds of the iFP build, which has to work with 1MB ran - including codecs... 10.33.44 # amiconn: sure, but red builds in the table does not help that 10.33.44 # s/ran/ram/ 10.33.48 # pondlife: no...just added a ifdef for it so it can easiely be taken out 10.34.39 # amiconn: the iFP will have to be stripped in many ways 10.34.52 Nick Everybody|food is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 10.34.52 Quit inversions (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.36.21 # still, the stripped bootbox together with langv2 will buy us some time 10.36.30 # LinusN: Of course, but keeping an eye on efficient coding helps in keeping things that need to be stripped to a minimum 10.36.35 # until we hit the barrier again 10.36.58 # LinusN: Archos rockbox will have to become a bit more modular in the future, it seems 10.37.05 # which reminds me, is it possible to build a h300 bootloader again? last I tried the object was too large 10.37.15 # perplexity: i have a patch for that 10.37.31 # Some parts have to be taken out of the core (or rather, not introduced in the first place) 10.37.36 # cool :) 10.37.53 # The pcm codec is one such thing 10.38.40 # i'm not holding my breath for the pcm codec 10.40.49 # LinusN, still work to do on langv2, just not as much time to work on it 10.41.04 # sounds familiar :-) 10.41.18 # pondlife, the patch might get recorder under the limit but the other targets will need more work 10.42.05 # * amiconn is curious how much the settings menu rework will save 10.42.37 # Linus: Do you have any idea why some H300s fail to connect on USB bootloader mode? 10.42.49 # ooooo like mine 10.42.52 # OK, just wondering 10.43.09 # amiconn: hopefully enough to at least to make rombox build again... 10.43.18 # Mine never works in USB bootloader mode 10.43.23 # mine too 10.43.32 # XavierGr: not really, but if the theory about GPOOD2 is true, that might be the reason 10.43.40 # I was hoping to put some debugging in - normal USB is very reliable. 10.44.28 # * JdGordon should get coding.. but so cbf tonight :p 10.44.29 # It is just strange why it works on normal mode and not in USB mode 10.44.33 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 10.44.40 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 10.44.45 # (bootloader mode) 10.45.06 # Must be some kind of initialisation issue. 10.45.15 # * JdGordon 's h300 connects maybe 80% of the time... annoying when it just plain refuses to connect 10.45.52 # I want to play with the bootloader but I am way too afraid if I do something stupid 10.45.52 # I've not had mine connect ever, no matter what the host machine or OS.. not that it worries me 10.45.57 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.46.53 # LinusN: There's also the emergency park click in H300 bootloader usb mode... 10.47.13 # amiconn: could be related 10.47.13 # Bootloader usb works everytime for me, but the click is nasty 10.47.39 # and the click on the outputs on bootup 10.49.29 # okay, with current svn and the latest langv2 cleanup patch we're 1348 bytes larger than max for recorder builds 10.50.12 # I rekon 1.3kb should be easy to get from the settings rework.... 10.50.55 Quit zylche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.51.06 # safetydan: Please tell me when you're done with the langv2 itself. Need to change talk.c a bit then 10.51.50 # will do 10.53.05 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.53.25 # has any work been done on seeing if speex will work? 10.56.27 # tucoz: I'll try and add something to the manual for booting IPL. I agree we should mention it, but it's really only useful for advanced IPL users - normal users will just use the IPL GUI installer which installs the IPL bootloader (which can also boot Rockbox). 10.58.35 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b7a6e.ucd.ie) 10.59.06 Quit wooo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.59.13 # JdGordon, I think there's a patch in the tracker for that 10.59.14 # linuxstb: Should the bootloader look for linux.bin and then linux.ipod when you hold Play, that way you can have a ROLO-able image that'll still work on bootup? 10.59.44 Join webguest61 [0] (i=3aa99c23@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-56b671350b257928) 11.00.13 # amiconn: do you think we should adapt dynamically for 1-sector clusters, or just stay with 1-sector caching on the ondio? 11.01.50 # (btw, my patch is now capable of the N*M scheme we discussed yesterday 11.01.51 # I think we should either stay with 1-sector caching on all targets, or check cluster sizes to decide how many sectors to cache 11.02.07 # (1-sector meaning physical ata sectors here) 11.02.19 # The 1-sector cluster problem is not limited to the Ondio 11.02.26 # true 11.02.44 # ok, so we dynamically adapt to the physical sector size then? 11.02.48 # (and btw, the duplicated dir entries were not the problem on the internal flahs, in case you didn't analyse the image yet) 11.03.12 # I mean, they were not related to the single-sector cluster problem 11.03.14 # i love rockbox :-) 11.03.26 # The internal flash has 2K clusters 11.03.28 # to all who have contributed to it, i thank you 11.03.30 # webguest61: me too :-) 11.03.50 # much is the pity i'm programming inept so am no assistance whatsoever :-( 11.04.23 # webguest61: feel free to help out with the manual ... 11.04.31 # or with knowledge in the forums 11.04.57 # yes, must help others...... 11.05.04 # must convert them to rockbox...... :-) 11.05.37 # advise them to read the manual ;-) 11.06.09 # manual not good for gigabeat yet. how do i help write it ? 11.06.37 # are you familiar with latex? 11.06.54 # ummm, you getting kinky on me ???? :-P 11.07.09 # no. The manual is written using latex. 11.07.18 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@host-144-219.ch.le.ac.uk) 11.07.29 Nick webguest61 is now known as whotheh3llam1 (i=3aa99c23@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-56b671350b257928) 11.07.40 # ahhhh 11.07.43 # but it's not that hard if you only want to extend / correct existing sections 11.07.53 # LinusN: On hdd targets, it might be useful to read sector pairs (of course only when there are no single-sector clusters) on 512 byte physical sector targets 11.07.54 # how/where ???? 11.08.02 # do i get started ? 11.08.12 # so the best way to help with it would be working with the latex sources and submit patches 11.08.48 # as a starting point read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto 11.09.16 # ahhh, just found that :-) 11.09.35 # amiconn: yes, it's a performance issue too. however, i have not seen a measurable difference between 1 and 2 sector caching 11.09.45 # LinusN: So basically it sounds like an idea to check the cluster size and then cache either 1 or 2 sectors. 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I also tested it on my friends 5G Video, appears to work fine 11.42.11 # amiconn: LinusN: did you guys see the message on the mailing list about te changes to the menu code for the new settings stuff? 11.42.36 # LinusN: Btw, your old patch (the buggy one) decreased code size on archos (though only a little bit) 11.43.15 # LinusN: I'll test yuor patch if you want ? 11.43.26 # JdGordon: I agree with Bagder that you use too many macros which purely hide away stuff for no reason. That also goes for the settings list 11.43.42 # ...e.g. GS(blah) -> global_settings.blah 11.43.45 # why? 11.44.05 # it makes it much easier to read (imo) 11.44.24 # ... and much more complicated for people who haven't written it 11.44.27 # pondlife if you revert to one revision before the playback.c mod and patch rockbox with cop 6 you should find that it works properly 11.44.40 # For me it makes the stuff harder to read 11.44.54 # in other words: harder to maintain 11.45.03 # decayedcell_: Hmm, I don't have a COP on my H300. 11.45.06 # I suspected it was playback.c because the cop diff modifies that file, and no other svn commits have 11.45.21 # well... either its lots of macros.. or in the case of the settings_list, lots of typecasts and {}'s 11.45.21 # It's only 2 lines extra isn't it? 11.45.43 # decayedcell_: If you comment out those 2 lines, I assume all is well again? 11.45.53 # hmm 11.46.00 # *checks SVN history* 11.46.20 # i.e. the filebuf += CODEC_IRAM_SIZE; filebuflen -= CODEC_IRAM_SIZE; 11.46.30 # No its 12120 11.46.36 # I was right earlier http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/playback.c?r1=12119&r2=12120 11.46.58 # Hmm, 12120 is only comment changes and code police.. allegedly 11.47.29 # Well if you check the changes... 11.47.38 # * pondlife is checking right now 11.48.04 # I don't see how a few extra lines could break the cop entirely though 11.48.13 # decayedcell_: Which are the new lines? 11.48.23 # Is it the inline stuff? 11.48.57 # highlighted in green on the right side 11.49.00 # is the extra stuff 11.49.20 # Do you have crossfade enabled? 11.49.27 # nope 11.49.37 # I never have crossfade enabled, just replaygain 11.49.51 # but even with the cop patch that didn't slow it down 11.50.40 # Try commenting out the new call to codec_gapless_track_change().. 11.50.59 # and then applying cop 7? 11.51.14 # Whatever you were doing that broke it before? 11.51.31 # i.e. comparing like-for-like 11.51.34 # well up to 12119 with cop 6 cop was working fine 11.51.46 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 11.51.46 # OK, so stick with cop 6 11.52.07 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b7a6e.ucd.ie) 11.52.14 # And 12120 with that line removed. 11.52.31 # well, if I just downloaded 12119 revision playback.c, wouldn't that be the same as commenting out the changes 11.52.48 # Yes, but I thought you'd already tried that. 11.52.58 # yeah 12119 worked fine 11.53.07 # Next up is to work out *which* particular line is causing the problem. 11.53.17 # ah okay which line then 11.53.51 # 1835 + 1842? 11.54.06 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 11.54.12 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 11.54.18 Join zefie [0] (i=proxy@24-105-220-68.cm.mhcable.com) 11.56.45 Quit zefie (Remote closed the connection) 11.56.59 # barrywardell would you have any idea of which line could be causing the cop problems http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/playback.c?r1=12119&r2=12120 11.57.23 # i had a quick look, but I don't know playback.c very well, so I'm not sure 11.57.45 # i haven't even run KoCOP#7 myself yet! 11.57.47 # pondlife: You just reminded me about that buffer thing I wanted to address but I see it's been gotten to :) 11.58.18 # barrywardell well I've already tested it, and it lags. It was perfectly fine with revision 12119 playback.c and cop 6 12.00.38 # decayedcell_: there aren't may lines in 12120 that actually change the code. most only change comments 12.00.58 # so i suggest pondlife's recommendation of going through them one by one 12.01.02 # barrywardell well there is the crossfade stuff, that appears to be the only change 12.01.34 # okay so which one should I comment out, and which character do I use, '/' ? 12.02.18 # "//" before the line to comment out 12.03.27 # I would imagine that the cop 6 diff would need to be modified too 12.04.53 # use cop7 12.04.59 # with 12120 12.05.01 # barrywardell cop 7 is just cop 6 but with the code patched in different locations right 12.05.05 # yeah okay 12.05.09 # yes 12.05.21 # remove the two new static inline functions 12.06.26 # decayedcell_: Sorry, phone rang 12.07.11 # int crossfade_mode = global_settings.crossfade; this too? 12.07.17 # Not yet 12.07.26 # That can be the 2nd part 12.07.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.07.33 # so just static inline void codec_gapless_track_change(void) 12.07.40 # and static inline void codec_crossfade_track_change(void) 12.07.54 # and adding // between the comments 12.07.54 # You'll need to reinstate the original function calls to pcmbuf_set_position_callback() etc. 12.08.03 # put back the code starting line with if(global_settings.playlist_shuffle) 12.08.43 # its probably easier if you comment it out for me then send the file :p 12.08.43 # jhMikeS: Which buffer thing did I remind you of? 12.09.08 # Got to go shortly I'm afraid 12.09.29 # pondlife thats fine, barrywardell can you do it? 12.09.40 # I'm not at all familiar with C 12.09.49 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 12.09.52 # JdGordon: i agree with Daniel, we should keep the macros to a minimum 12.09.52 # or any programming language bar BASIC >< 12.09.59 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 12.10.25 # decayedcell_: i'll give you a version of playback.c to test 12.10.48 # pondlife: the problem after the call to buffer_alloc and not adjusting the pointer and size. I've known about it and was gonna fix it but got all distracted recently. 12.10.48 # barrywardell: Thanks 12.10.57 # Aha 12.13.14 Quit Abcminiuser ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 12.13.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5755#comment12911 confirmed by Steve... so I guess its just line by line then 12.13.47 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.14.19 # LinusN: I agree also, but really think these should be exceptions 12.15.07 # i believe in having the code "in your face" 12.15.21 Join jba [0] (n=jba@postoffice.rogen.com.au) 12.15.26 # * GodEater coughs and points LinusN to his volunteering for patch test duty statement from earlier 12.15.30 # decayedcell_: http://pastebin.ca/334116 12.15.34 # but in this case, it might perhaps serve a purpose 12.15.59 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 12.16.11 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-112-231.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 12.16.36 # ... unfortunatly, even with the macros its going to be messy, but at least it will be slightly easier to follow than without them 12.16.57 # that of course depends on what you are trying to follow 12.17.15 # GodEater: the bootloader? 12.17.42 # barrywardell: it appears that system.c has been modified recently 12.17.46 # your ata / fat patch 12.17.48 # im talking about settings_list.c atm 12.17.53 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection reset by peer) 12.18.04 # I noticed you said to amiconn you thought you'd got the duplicte entries sorted ? 12.18.18 # hmm actually I'll get rid of the other patches oops 12.18.24 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Connection reset by peer) 12.18.25 # GodEater: ah yes 12.18.57 # does it require FS#6549 applied seperately ? 12.19.27 # GodEater: i /msg:d you 12.20.36 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-112-231.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 12.21.28 Quit jba ("Leaving") 12.24.32 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 12.24.34 # I'm sure why the objection to macros in the settings struct since they'd be rather tedious declarations otherwise and worse to change if the element format is altered for some reason. 12.24.36 Quit Paprica (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.24.43 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 12.24.47 # not sure rather 12.25.34 # jhMikeS: which is why i said it might serve a purpose in this case 12.26.17 # I wouldn't say "might" in this case :-) 12.26.20 # JdGordon: what time do you finish each day? 12.26.21 # :-) 12.26.34 # 4am-6am, isn't it? 12.26.40 # ;) 12.26.45 # daurnimator: uni? dont know yet, timetable doesnt come out till late feb 12.27.47 Quit Zagor ("Leaving") 12.29.49 # this is the type of macro that i dislike: 12.29.52 # #define GS(a) &global_settings.a 12.29.57 # totally unnecessary 12.30.13 # and non-kiss 12.30.27 # barrywardell: still the same thing 12.30.32 # thats because you like 80 char wide lines :p 12.30.43 # JdGordon: i started 12 today, so i got a hell of a lot less time now 12.33.29 # * jhMikeS likes 77 char wide lines because all Microsoft example code does it :P 12.33.45 # * pondlife likes lines to go as long as they need to 12.33.57 # But then I do now have dual monitors!! 12.34.04 # (As of yesterday) 12.34.13 # so the lines can span two screens? wow! 12.34.23 # no, thats too wide 12.34.23 # I don't have enough desk space for that or I would 12.34.23 # ;) 12.34.28 # decayedcell_: ok. only one other thing changed. try this: http://pastebin.ca/334130 12.34.38 # 100ish should be the max... 12.34.43 # Nah, it gets hard to follow after about 150 12.35.17 # I like line breaks for a better reason than an arbitrary number of chars 12.35.21 # barrywardell alright I'll try it tommorrow, need to sleep. I'll email the results 12.35.26 # k 12.35.29 Quit decayedcell_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.35.35 # i have a line down the window at 80chars, i still have about 20lines worth of whitespace now 12.35.46 # ... and im on a low res 12.36.29 # anyway, back to figuring out this damn type cast 12.37.28 # pointers again? 12.38.09 # yeah 12.40.58 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 12.41.34 Join Abcminiuser [0] (n=dean_cam@ppp36FB.dsl.pacific.net.au) 12.42.36 Quit atsea-196 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.44.19 # * jhMikeS sees he left a comment in pcm_record.c about threading and the audio recording functions that's totally untrue now. 12.45.57 # that wouldnt be the only untrue comment in the code... 12.46.09 # the description of bmp_load (i tihnk) is wrong also 12.46.30 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 12.46.32 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.48.44 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590faacf.pool.einsundeins.de) 12.48.45 Quit blueworm ("Leaving") 12.50.38 # I hate it when I put in notes, fix the problem and forget to remove the note. Probably should refrain unless extremely important in some fundamental way. 12.52.16 # time for lunch... 12.53.14 Quit barrywardell () 12.53.48 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 12.54.10 # jhMikeS: still better to forget about the note than not fixing the problem... 12.55.19 Join atsea-196 [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8063b7ce2300ea1a) 12.58.52 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.00.17 # alrighty, how do i typecast to an array of char*'s inside a struct? ive been doing {(int[]){{blaa}}} (int* is whats actually requested) which has worked for everything else, but t wont work when it wants a char* 13.00.31 # castng to void* wouldnt even work 13.01.11 # grr... bloodu typical... i get it as soon as i ask :p 13.01.20 # I was missing the unsigned :p 13.03.07 Quit perplexity ("* follow the yellow skin toad *") 13.03.33 Join subson [0] (n=ju@82.67.68.29) 13.03.38 # sweet, it works 13.09.02 Quit XavierGr () 13.10.37 Join upsioned [0] (n=ju@82.67.68.29) 13.11.23 # jhMikeS: put in notes with #warning, that way you can't miss them :) 13.12.13 # Mikachu: haha...neither will anyone else :) 13.12.43 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp169-116.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.13.47 Join andrewg [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162083050.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 13.15.50 # Mikachu: thats proabably a good idea tho... 13.16.06 # i mean, they arnt compile warnings.. so its not soo bad, and are helpful 13.17.09 Quit subson (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13.17.42 # JdGordon: They would still colour the build table yellow 13.17.50 # so? 13.18.09 # even more reason to make it like that... it forces people to remember and fx these problems 13.18.49 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54932355.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.18.56 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.19.26 # * jhMikeS will just use #error when he _really_ means it 13.20.46 # well... thats going a bit extreme :p 13.23.44 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-8df5659f57ab02ae) 13.25.38 Quit andrewg_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.29.03 # daurnimator: whats the archos model you have? 13.29.24 # gmini 402 13.29.30 # why? 13.30.03 # talking to a friend about it 13.30.36 # o.o 13.34.20 # * JdGordon hates writing tech docs :( especially in wiki format 13.35.25 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.38.58 Quit Abcminiuser ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 13.41.33 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 13.45.08 # i wish slasheri could document the new scheduler in the wiki 13.46.49 # well, at least he's said he's going to do it! 13.46.52 # five, six times 13.47.52 # maybe he forgot how it works... 13.48.46 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.49.09 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.49.14 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.52.35 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 13.52.37 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|ingame (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 13.54.59 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 13.55.37 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.230.92) 13.57.08 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 13.57.17 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 13.57.19 Quit thegeek () 14.01.37 Join OgMaciel [0] (n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist) 14.07.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.09.10 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 14.09.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 14.11.56 Join zefie [0] (i=proxy@24-105-220-68.cm.mhcable.com) 14.13.42 # OK, I've started documenting the upcoming changes... can someone please have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SettingsRecode#Order_of_calls_to_the_menu_callb and let me know if that order of callback calls sound right? 14.13.59 # I mean, thats what happens, but does it need changing? 14.14.21 # ... ignore the rest of the page... its not done 14.14.24 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.14.46 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.18.38 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.18.39 # dammit. Stone Sour are playing in London in March and all the tickets are gone already. 14.18.49 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.20.19 # i managed to get tickets for Air in march 14.20.32 # although it was a slightly dodgy site, and i don't have any actual tickets yet... 14.21.11 Join efyx [0] (n=efyx@fac34-5-82-239-138-213.fbx.proxad.net) 14.21.22 # none on ebay even 14.22.49 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.23.00 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.23.27 Join Tman [0] (i=tyler@adsl-69-153-8-245.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) 14.24.40 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.24.51 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.25.53 # they still have tickets for the other venues. could you make it to brum? 14.26.31 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.26.40 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.26.50 # nope 14.28.43 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.28.52 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.30.37 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.30.46 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.31.01 # wth is Mouser_X doing ? 14.33.39 # bouncing 14.33.44 # like a jack russel terrier 14.36.19 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.37.16 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 14.39.49 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 14.44.28 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.44.37 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.48.36 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.48.46 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.50.30 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.50.39 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.52.47 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.52.56 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.56.41 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.56.44 Part LinusN 14.57.00 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.57.31 Part JdGordon 14.58.48 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 15.02.50 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 15.03.01 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.03.08 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1513a32424180e2e) 15.06.57 # Llorean: I'm absolutely loving the gigabeat 15.07.13 # I'd definitely recommend it. 15.07.39 # :) 15.07.46 # It's no H120, but as a device for simply playing music from an HD it's quite good. 15.08.16 # my new H140 battery showed up yesterday too 15.08.24 # but the screwdriver didn't =/ 15.08.26 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 15.08.32 # Frustrating 15.08.33 # GodEater, good, i ordered one last night 15.08.35 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.08.53 # somewhat - I've hunted round here at work too, and we only go down to T6 15.11.07 # out of curiousity - did you change the theme on your GB Llorean? And if so - which did you go for ? 15.11.21 # Normally I make my own rather basic theme. 15.11.31 # But I stumbled across one in the gallery I very much like. 15.11.35 # I'm using Cabbie 15.11.39 # Yup 15.11.43 # yeah - it's very good 15.11.43 # I made a few changes to it. 15.11.48 # shame he didn't use the real RB logo 15.11.52 # but otherwise it's pretty bool 15.11.54 # I actually kinda like that logo. 15.11.54 # *cool 15.12.05 # Though in the menu I moved it to be rotated like the "Gigabeat" words. 15.12.20 # it's not bad I suppose - just unoffical 15.12.22 # And I added a entry showing where I was in the playlist, as well as numeric battery and volume, to it. 15.12.27 # an entry 15.13.26 # woot! Got the utf8 manual working. Now I need to make it in a clean way 15.14.17 # Woo 15.15.48 # bluebrother: I haven't looked at how the tex is structured, but do you think it'd be reasonably possible for me to hack together a manual build that includes all the various player specific bits, text only (plus the general bits)? 15.16.18 # Or would a very lot of stuff end up repeating that way? 15.16.50 # I mean, I assume it's structured so you're not rewriting the same stuff for different players, but I don't know how well that'd translate into a giant mishmash. 15.18.34 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 15.18.43 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.19.10 Quit andrewg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.19.50 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host241-206-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.20.47 Join gook [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-78c1df2e4177fd86) 15.22.18 # A question for the initiated: why is radio.c in the recorder subdir? 15.22.46 # gook: Because the "recorder" subdir for a while meant "things with bitmap screens" if I recall. 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So it would be logical to move it one level up. 15.24.41 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.24.56 Join l_r [0] (n=l_r@adsl-ull-45-42.46-151.net24.it) 15.24.58 # hello 15.25.06 # how can i turn off the ipod? 15.25.25 # i am not in rockbox, i am in the apple firmware fors some reasons 15.25.32 # i have to reboot this thing 15.25.39 # to enter rockbox again 15.25.54 # gook: No, it would be logical to move it to target tree, I assume. 15.26.04 # l_r: hold menu+select 15.26.07 Join justjohnny68 [0] (n=rhorning@pool-141-157-44-254.balt.east.verizon.net) 15.26.14 # l_r: or wait 36 hours 15.26.33 # 36 hours? 15.26.38 # maybe it's 24 15.26.40 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.26.52 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.27.03 # l_r: The Apple firmware can't be shut off normally. You either wait for it to go to deep sleep, or you restart with Menu+Select 15.27.07 # Waiting for Deep Sleep takes a long time. 15.27.10 # ok done 15.27.14 # Llorean: I meant radio.c. It's for many platforms I think. 15.27.28 # thanks 15.27.33 # gook: And? 15.28.33 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b7a6e.ucd.ie) 15.29.15 # Llorean: I thought under the target you have many subdirs (one for each platform). Should radio.c be copied then? 15.30.20 # gook: Well, perhaps just /drivers. I'm really not very solid on the source organization. 15.30.30 # But my understanding of target tree was that things that are hardware specific ended up there in the end. 15.31.03 Part justjohnny68 15.31.28 # Remember: This is far from my area of expertise, very far. 15.32.47 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 15.32.51 # Llorean: but radio.c contains both kind of code. It should be splitted into platform specific and 'general' parts 15.32.54 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.33.15 # gook: I never said it shouldn't be split. 15.34.31 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 15.34.36 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 15.34.45 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.34.49 # I also never said you did :-) 15.34.50 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A96E34.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.35.25 # But I say: it should! 15.35.57 # "Target Tree" isn't really just the /target folder, it includes splitting the files I believe. 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I was just curious, and I can't find any news 16.44.56 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.46.35 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 16.46.43 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.46.58 # invadrox makes the player unresponsive to any buttons, including power off, after the backlight fade (gigabeat target) 16.47.16 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 16.48.20 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.48.24 # hey midgey 16.48.36 # hello 16.48.38 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.48.43 # did you commit the invadrox? 16.48.52 # no, that was midkay 16.48.55 # ah 16.49.30 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p54931C47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.49.54 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0229.fh-trier.de) 16.51.36 Quit Luis07 ("Leaving") 16.52.26 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-e2268f46501279fa) 16.54.40 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.54.54 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 16.56.32 Quit gook ("CGI:IRC") 16.57.25 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.58.28 Quit midgey () 17.00.51 # any other gigabeat owners recommend a case for one ? 17.01.02 # can not do 17.01.39 # * GodEater managed to drop his (first day of ownership!) at the gym and scared himself when it wouldn't come back on. 17.02.06 # place it inside a used sock. decreases chances of theft too! 17.02.33 # and makes using it a real pleasure 17.04.01 # well 17.04.07 # i use apple grey sock 17.04.08 # :P 17.06.15 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.08.56 # GodEater no good cases were ever made 17.10.19 # http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-MEG-F40-Gigabeat-FlexiSkin-Low-Profile/dp/B000G2UGPQ 17.10.56 # this one is very "industrial" but does the job 17.11.01 # I just ordered a silicone skin from some uk site 17.11.17 # same one i posted? 17.11.21 # looks very similar ;) 17.11.44 # the first site I looked at was charging $23!!!! 17.11.46 # yeah i doubt theres something else silicone for gigabeat 17.11.51 # I want diamond plating for that amount 17.12.12 # Check out the Tech-Nohm case 17.12.25 # http://www.i-nique.co.uk/ 17.12.26 # i've got one, its a pretty good case 17.12.28 # bulky though 17.12.29 # that's where I ordered from 17.12.57 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 17.14.19 Quit CriamosAndy (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.15.08 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54931C47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.15.46 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@host29-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it) 17.19.10 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 17.19.42 Quit Criamos (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.20.28 Part norbusan 17.28.01 # markun or toffe around ? 17.28.53 # both away 17.29.03 # maybe i can help? 17.29.22 # oh it's just a question on the manual 17.29.45 # I noticed last night when I was doing my install, after I'd done the bootloader section, turning it off wasnt' enough (at least, not using the power button) 17.29.46 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54931C47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.30.04 # I just wondered if it was worth inserting that as a step into the manual 17.30.20 # otherwise it just stayed in the Toshiba fw 17.30.23 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.30.36 # i always thought the step with flipping the battery switch is in the manual 17.30.37 # GodEater, i want the gigabeat manual to be spot-on by friday! 17.30.54 # at least its on the gigabeat wiki page 17.31.04 # from the manual : "2.4. Running RockboxRemove your player from the computer’s USB port.Unplug any connected power supply and turn the unit off. When you next turn the unit on, Rockbox should load. When you see the Rockbox splash screen, Rockbox is loaded and ready for use." 17.31.08 Quit pondlife (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.31.13 # that's all it says 17.31.25 # thats strange 17.31.31 # * GodEater waits to be struck by lightning for pasting in the channel 17.32.26 # yep, its missing the battery switch step 17.32.46 # so that *is* required then 17.32.52 # it wasn't just me 17.33.23 Join webguest20 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d3e13b0ee49e39e0) 17.33.33 # it is very much required 17.33.43 # thought so - I just wanted to check 17.34.01 # can you do the change yourself, or do you want me to submit a patch ? 17.35.19 # also (having just read the wiki port page rather than the manual) if the latest bootloader is dated the 18th, then it still hasn't made it to download.rockbox.org - since I'm using one from the 17th 17.35.23 # What happens to the hidden disc sector after updating to a RB version where settings are stored in cfg files? Can the sector be removed so that there will be no tracks of RB if I delete RB specific files? 17.37.18 # GodEater bootloader in bootloader.zip dated 18th was made during some late night hours 17.37.28 # so technically its 17th but was added on 18th 17.37.44 Quit webguest20 (Client Quit) 17.38.03 # ah - so I'm using the right bootloader then - but not with the splash ? 17.39.05 Quit l_r ("Leaving") 17.39.10 # spash comes separately in a .raw file you put in /root 17.39.45 # I see that from the wiki 17.39.52 # (hence its .zip file) 17.40.02 # yep understood 17.40.27 # playing devil's advocate here - wouldn't it make sense to have the zip file include the gbsystem\fwimg folder structure ? 17.40.43 # although I suppose that could mean a use would overwrite the original firmware before he renamed it 17.40.58 # yeah people might end up screwing the whole thing 17.42.50 # ill ask someone with write access from #gigabeat to modify the manual 17.43.44 # hmmm 17.43.51 # anyone know where the dircache get's stored ? 17.45.38 # tcd files? 17.46.34 # no that's the database 17.46.46 # dircache seems to be broken here 17.46.46 # ah 17.47.20 # if I turn the player on with it enabled - it says rockbox loaded, and the the screen goes blank, the backlight switches off, and then nothing else happens. 17.47.46 # I wonder if that's a result of the patch LinusN did this mornign 17.47.50 # The dircache doesn't get stored on disk 17.48.04 # (except on H1x0 when rockbox is in flash) 17.48.13 # right 17.48.42 # so I wonder what's going on there then 17.48.55 # the first reboot after you enable it it works fine 17.49.02 # GodEater always worked on mine 17.49.08 # you get the "scanning disk" message 17.49.13 # but if you then power off and back on 17.49.20 # you get the symtoms I describe above 17.49.43 Join ppeom [0] (i=oppa123@222.101.44.228) 17.49.43 # and you have to boot with hold on to clear settings to get it to work again 17.49.58 # Hi all.. 17.50.08 # GodEater i balme patches 17.50.12 # blame* 17.50.16 # hehe 17.50.25 # blame patch? 17.50.28 # I'm just re-building the fw again without that patch to see if it helps 17.51.12 # Can edit Start menu charactet position ? 17.51.23 # invadrox crashes the player after you quit the plugin btw, GodEater 17.51.33 # only battery flip helps 17.51.44 Join bkuhn [0] (n=bkuhn@fsf/member/bkuhn/bkuhn) 17.52.18 # not even tried that 17.53.09 # amiconn: so explain to me how it works then ? Does dircache scan your disk every time you boot ? 17.53.24 # Yes. 17.53.39 # I wonder why it works once and not subsequently then 17.53.58 # At first boot after enabling, it scans in the foreground. After that it knows the necessary buffer size 17.54.18 # Who's know gigabeat.. 17.54.22 # Subsequent boot use this information in order to reserve the buffer beforehand, and then scan in the background 17.54.46 # so it does store *something* somewhere then 17.54.56 # i.e. the size of the req'd buffer 17.54.59 # Yes. Just the buffer size 17.55.06 # and where does that live ? 17.55.28 # The buffer gets allocated with some extra space to adjust to changed content 17.56.16 # It's part of the global status, i.e. nvram.bin as long as there is no other nv storage 17.57.13 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 17.57.30 # I never use dircache myself, so I don't know what could be the problem here 17.58.01 # well as I was saying earlier 17.58.10 # I tested LinusN's latest fat patch this morning 17.58.18 # I was wondering if it could have anything to do with that 17.58.35 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@71-208-65-103.hlrn.qwest.net) 17.58.45 # I've just replace that rockbox.gigabeat with one that doesn't include the patch 17.58.51 # and the problem appears to have gone away 17.59.16 # I'll just test again to make sure 17.59.48 # yep - definitely gone 18.01.02 # Maybe the fat patch breaks dircache somehow? Dircache is pretty low-level.... 18.01.04 # I'll just put it back again to make sure that was the problem and not some other lame thing I'd done 18.02.09 Quit atsea-196 (SendQ exceeded) 18.02.24 # does ROLO work on igabeat ? 18.02.37 # nope 18.03.03 # a mundane reboot then ;) 18.03.07 # yep 18.03.11 # it's definitely that 18.03.21 # won't boot properly now 18.03.32 # well - bootloader works - but rockbox won't now 18.03.40 # shame - poor LinusN :( 18.04.52 Join andrewg [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162087175.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 18.05.36 # right - I've got to shoot home 18.05.39 # chat later chaps 18.05.41 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC") 18.07.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.14 Quit Criamos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.09.40 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@170.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 18.10.33 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54931C47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.12.12 # that sansa emulator really is great! 18.14.07 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730190b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6f014edce4c1eb1a) 18.17.19 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.5.10) 18.18.36 Join Matlock [0] (n=matlock@83.71.2.0) 18.18.40 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 18.20.06 # hcs: have you seen http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6603 ? 18.21.10 # nope, thanks for pointing it out 18.21.21 # barrywardell: what's needed to get the sansa emu to work? 18.22.07 # Mikachu: looks like a straightforward float to fixed conversion, which I had intended to do but didn't care about N106 to get around to... 18.22.11 # just crashes for me :( 18.23.36 Quit ppeom () 18.24.51 # hcs: I was curious... do you plan to adapt other Nintendo formats in the future? like GBS or USF? 18.25.29 # hcs: great work with NSF and SPC btw :) 18.27.28 # Genre9mp3: I'm considering GBS, but I think the best strategy for that might be to get blargg an iPod and let him do it :) 18.28.07 # hehe 18.28.59 # USF... is not likely 18.29.43 # to much processing power needed? 18.29.47 # Hey, do any of the developers working on the 80GB port still need the donation of an 80GB model? 18.29.48 # too 18.29.54 # 80GB 5.5 ipod, I mean. 18.30.38 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97E43.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.30.44 # Genre9mp3: Yeah. Even the best players available only run on x86, and would still be too slow if they could magically be transformed into exactly equivalent ARM 18.31.35 # hmmm... so I guess this applies for all PSF based formats, right? 18.32.05 # no, PSF itself I think is feasible 18.32.14 # GSF also 18.32.46 # PSF would rock in rockbox! :) 18.33.46 # I have no intention of working on it myself any time soon. 18.34.52 # well, sure... its better to have SPC in SVN first :) 18.35.16 Nick Rondom is now known as a (n=Rondom@p57A96E34.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.35.16 # anyway gtg 18.35.19 # cheers 18.35.22 Nick a is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@p57A96E34.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.36.59 Quit dune2 ("Leaving") 18.39.23 Part Matlock ("Leaving") 18.39.46 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.44.29 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.45.06 Quit lostlogic ("leaving") 18.45.13 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54849AC6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.45.43 Join lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 18.46.15 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.46.24 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.46.53 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.47.00 Join webguest88 [0] (i=97c68ede@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1a9d35343b9af70f) 18.47.02 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 18.47.05 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@234.80-202-98.nextgentel.com) 18.47.28 Quit webguest88 (Client Quit) 18.50.13 # does anyone know what sdl package i should apt-get in debian to be able to compile the sims? 18.50.48 # hmm 18.51.00 # tucoz: have you installed X? 18.51.06 # no, not yet 18.51.21 # in order to make the sim run I think you need that 18.51.24 # i am building a virtual machine for VirtualBox 18.51.32 # probably something like sdl-dev and sdl, possibly "lib" too 18.51.45 # yeah what Mikachu said 18.52.09 # but I am almost certain that when I built the VMWare image the sim couldn't run without X 18.52.22 # ok. i thought i only needed the sdl-dev package, but i guess i need sdl to be able to run it :) 18.52.34 # you need sdl to link it too 18.52.35 # yes, i will have to install x to run it 18.52.39 # sdl-dev should require the sdl package 18.52.53 # right. that is probably true 18.53.29 # it's really cool. I wonder if i should see how quick i can compile a rockbox build in this vm 18.54.06 # tucoz: I want to add the ucs package files to svn but I'm not sure about the license 18.54.21 # what was the link again? 18.54.25 # afaiu you need to distribute everything 18.54.27 # sec. 18.54.42 # which would include lots of unneeded stuff 18.54.54 # http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ 18.55.00 # thanks 18.55.18 # looks like I'll manage to put everything in a different folder ... 18.55.34 Join sebdah [0] (n=sebdah@h-149-93.A175.cust.bahnhof.se) 18.55.49 # but the question is: do I need to put everything from the package there? Or can I use only the files I need? 18.56.04 # - A distribution may split the package into smaller packages, as long 18.56.04 # as this fact is visible to the user and the user may easily install 18.56.04 # the complete UCS package (e.g. by installing all small packages). 18.56.10 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@ATuileries-153-1-59-175.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.56.33 # right. But I don't want to create a package, I want to use parts of it 18.56.50 # i.e. the most except what's needed to rebuild some files and other addons 18.57.34 # just put the full package in the wiki somewhere 18.57.46 # I guess you could simply state what you have done in a documentation file when you upload it 18.57.52 # so do I need to consider it as a package and add everything? 18.58.16 # I wanted to add a README file to the new folder and add some information where to get the complete package 18.58.26 # Like README.rockbox 18.58.30 # but the license made me doubt if that is sufficient 18.58.49 Quit perplexity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.58.51 # and of course add the license file for ucs there too 18.58.58 # you could ask him 18.59.05 # my initial thought is that the license is quite flexible 18.59.40 # what kind of space do these extra files take? 18.59.49 # i haven't read the LaTeX Project Public License though 19.00.20 # 3.6MiB 19.00.33 # lowlight: it ran for me. i think you need a full dev environment with debugger, etc to get the most out of it though 19.01.03 # if I want to add everything that _might_ be needed (i.e. all definition files) I get 2.2MiB 19.01.15 # so adding all other files doesn 19.01.20 # doesn't add too much 19.01.53 # no. it's not that bad. maybe you should ask one of the old-timers for their opinion? 19.02.15 # you mean Rockbox old-timers? Might be a good idea 19.02.19 # yes 19.02.39 # ok, I'll do that later. 19.02.49 # gtg now, back in half an hour or so. 19.02.54 # see you 19.05.57 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966591.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.09.02 Quit KCC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.09.43 Nick Everybody is now known as Everybody|away (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 19.10.00 Join kaalo1 [0] (n=luis@ATuileries-153-1-61-156.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.10.03 Quit darkless ("Leaving") 19.11.48 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.11.54 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 19.17.46 Quit kaaloo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.18.17 Quit kaalo1 ("Leaving.") 19.18.37 Join Redbreva [0] (n=chatzill@host86-136-2-124.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 19.23.55 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-118-013.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.29.12 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 19.29.50 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@host-83-146-15-217.bulldogdsl.com) 19.32.14 # hey, anyone can recommend me some inear phones for 100?? 19.32.28 # how are the ultimate ears super.fi 3? 19.32.32 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-65-24-91-251.columbus.res.rr.com) 19.32.34 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 19.32.36 # This isn't really the right place for that inquiry. But I'd recommend Westone UM-1. 19.32.43 Join bluebrother [0] (i=Po0MZrhj@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.33.01 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@host29-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it) 19.33.22 # do you have them? 19.33.40 # Yes. 19.33.49 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 19.33.55 Part norbusan 19.34.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host241-206-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.34.45 Quit andrewg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.34.53 # how stable are they? my last one had a crappy cord which broke several times (panasonic hje70) 19.35.12 # * amiconn wonders what currency '??' means 19.35.42 # Bluey: I've haven't had a problem with them. I suggest, however, that you look to http://www.head-fi.org for recommendations. 19.35.49 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@81.5.171.125) 19.36.04 # thanks for the link 19.37.35 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 19.37.44 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.44.54 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.45.14 Quit darkless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.47.24 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 19.48.48 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Jonno@84.13.181.234) 19.49.16 # amiconn, you decide what currency you want the price to be in :) 19.49.19 # We definitely need to get Llorean some larger boots 19.49.41 # 100 SEK perhaps? ;) Quite cheap then 19.49.46 # or 100 Bhat 19.50.13 # i think that's about 20 SEK 19.50.30 # 100 Yen ? 19.51.21 # I wonder, should i keep the vm without X. I.e. strictly for compiling etc 19.51.21 # Otoh, if it were 100 EUR, or even 100 GBP... 19.52.29 # tucoz: I also thought about building a minimalistic vmware vm for rockbox 19.52.50 # this feels really fast. Actually, it feels equal to my other terminals 19.52.50 # or 100 CYP 19.53.06 # Plain console, just the crosscompilers, samba, plus a windows crosscompiler, so the vm could build windows sims 19.53.29 # yep. I think i'll go that route, and see how well that works 19.53.52 # well I don't think that you will gain much more except the size of the image 19.54.21 # i have little (or none) experience with samba. Do i install samba in the vm, to be able to access windows files? 19.54.41 # Iirc rasher added autodetection of the cross-win-sdl case, i.e. if the build system finds the win32 sdl includes in the path, it should build windows sims 19.54.48 # installing samba in the VM will give your windows install access to the filesystem in the VM 19.55.04 # tucoz, did you manage to get the shared folders working? 19.55.07 # ok. thanks 19.55.10 # "IF" your windows system is set up correctly 19.55.15 # hehe, i started from scratch 19.55.22 # making sure the vmware kernel supports smb or cifs will allow connections the other way 19.55.22 # i do not know yet 19.55.25 # that means that you will have to make sure that the network services are on (server etc) 19.55.28 # which I think is tidier myself 19.55.35 # and certainly requires less faffing about 19.55.43 # and will make your image smaller still 19.55.54 # samba is a sledgehammer to crack a nut in this case I think 19.56.01 # tucoz keep in mind that you will need the latex packages to build manuals 19.56.13 # yep. i'll add them 19.56.47 Quit sebdah (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.57.57 # tucoz: for some needed packages check the wiki here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform 19.58.18 # thanks :) 19.58.41 # of course not all are needed for basic compile 19.59.37 # no. but i want to be able to compile the stuff there is to compile 20.00.27 # bbl 20.00.50 # * amiconn wonders what's necessary to build debian packages. Same question for cygwin packages 20.02.12 # tucoz, wanna try a possible utf8 fix? 20.02.59 # apply http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/pastebin/36 and unpack the ucs package from http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/unicode.tgz to the manual folder (so it becomes a subfolder ucs/) 20.06.30 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.07.38 # sure 20.07.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.08.39 Quit lowlight ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.10.05 Join Simpson [0] (n=Simpson@209.8.41.70) 20.12.40 # Ok. I've been trying to use the mpeg player on my Gigabeat, but it doesn't seem to work. I know that it doesn't rebuffer right now, but I can't get it to show any video whatsoever. First, I download the 425MB .avi file and then I installed VLC. I then also downloaded the .bat file, dragged and dropped the .avi onto the .bat and it made a new file, which I put onto the Gigabeat. The only problem is when I try to play it, it says buffering, and then nothing h 20.13.02 # The 425 Elephant's Dream video I mean 20.13.04 # 425MB* 20.14.33 # Simpson, the bat file on the manual is broken, it encodes to a .m2v still, the file type used by older versions of mpegplayer 20.14.47 # Unless you mean a different bat file, in which case it may have something to do with the size of the file 20.14.51 # Ah. 20.15.07 # No, you're right it's .m2v 20.15.15 # Is there any way to convert it correctly? 20.15.22 # A new .bat file? 20.15.36 # bluebrother, i am doing something wrong. i get patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input. 20.15.49 # after i run patch < p.diff 20.15.54 # A new .bat file has yet to be created - I do know of a third part tool that seems to work for me however. Hold on 20.16.05 # maybe it's because of the missing @@ pastebin eats 20.16.19 # where is that? 20.16.19 # (the yellow lines) 20.16.28 # ok 20.16.29 # Simpson : why don't you try the version of elephant dream of the wiki ? 20.16.41 # http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=51189 Courtesy of TrueJournals, you will want the 'Full version with all codecs' 20.16.57 # I should find out how to modify pastebin to not eat @@ at the beginning of a line ... 20.17.07 # Thank's soul-slayer 20.17.14 # No problem. 20.17.17 # toffe: I also want to convert other files :) 20.17.34 # Does anyone know if barrywardell is around? I am wondering if he managed to get RockBoy working in the end 20.17.35 # What's the input file have to be? 20.17.47 # i'm here now 20.17.48 # Covers most extensions, I think he listed them 20.17.50 # Aha, hello 20.17.58 # Any luck? 20.18.00 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 20.18.11 # bluebrother, should i add a @@ in front of those lines? 20.18.21 # yep. 20.18.44 # for some strange reason pastebin uses them to recognize lines to highlight and also removes them 20.18.46 # i haven't tried the latest version yet 20.18.47 # Simpson: Supported file types are *.mov *.mpg *.mpeg *.avi *.wmv *.rm *.flv and *.m4v 20.18.59 # tucoz: you want to click "download" 20.19.03 # and didn't hear from TrueJournals if he has the same bug 20.19.11 # aha 20.19.18 # I just read, thank you. 20.19.27 # "To highlight particular lines, prefix each line with @@" 20.20.37 # barrywardell: Do you have any ideas about what might be causing the Sansa lockups? 20.20.41 # bluebrother, i have to do this later. i have to get my daughter to sleep. 20.21.02 # sure 20.21.10 # dan_a: I haven't really looked at the flash driver, but it seemed to always happen on writes 20.22.10 # barrywardell: I'm getting them while scrolling up and down the screen now. 20.22.18 # dan_a: also, you may have noticed I added the power off for the sansa. but now I'm wondering if we're better off doing it like this: http://pastebin.ca/334616 20.22.21 # both ways work 20.23.20 # The new way is more in line with how we believe the AS3514 to work 20.23.36 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 20.23.40 # But if the current way works, why change it?! 20.23.59 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust351.brig.cable.ntl.com) 20.24.02 # I'm starting to wonder if it's the LCD driver that hangs. 20.24.05 Quit zefie (Remote closed the connection) 20.24.06 # tucoz, when you come back, the same as diff here: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/utf8fix.diff 20.24.13 # because we're changing more than necessary 20.24.21 # dan_a: i think you might be right 20.24.26 Nick pill is now known as _pill (i=pill@193.23.141.4) 20.24.27 # i've got a freeze here 20.24.33 Nick bluey- is now known as bly^afk (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-118-013.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.24.36 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 20.24.40 # but the backlight on the wheel still comes on and off as it should 20.24.44 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 20.24.53 # indicating rockbox is still running 20.24.54 # I'm going to disable writing in the flash driver, and see if that helps. 20.25.02 # just not updating the lcd... 20.25.23 Join mathgl [0] (n=mathgl@shm67-4-82-242-213-244.fbx.proxad.net) 20.25.38 # dan_a: any ideas about waiting for the dma to finish before starting another lcd update? 20.25.58 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m204.net81-65-15.noos.fr) 20.26.02 Join zefie [0] (i=proxy@24-105-220-68.cm.mhcable.com) 20.26.10 # Sorry to interrupt Barry, but is there any updates/progress/other news on the KoCOP patch? 20.26.14 Join Viele-baeren [0] (n=kvirc@wikipedia/Viele-baeren) 20.26.24 Part Viele-baeren ("Ich verlasse euch nun leider, bis dann!") 20.26.56 # Soul-Slayer: See FS#5755 20.27.00 # Thanks. 20.27.21 # i tested both 6 (with SVN 12119) and 7 (with current SVN) and they both felt the same on my h10. but then the cop patch isn't really working on the H10 without changing the frequency scaling too. 20.27.59 # barrywardell: Logically, we should be able to just monitor the GPIO pin for the LCD update, but Rockbox has hung every time I've tried to do it that way 20.28.48 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3da35c1a6d239dd5) 20.29.01 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-162-105.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.29.56 # has it definitely hung? or does the lcd just not update? ie. does the scroll wheel light still work? 20.30.39 # Last time I tried, the scroll wheel hadn't been worked out, so I don't know. 20.31.01 # would be worth trying again now in that case... 20.31.35 # I get a hang (with scroll wheel light working) after a few seconds with writing disabled in the ATA driver 20.31.55 # ok, so it's not that 20.32.48 # Whoa. When I played the movie, it was FAST! 20.32.55 # Anyway to slow that sucker down... 20.33.32 # Go into the mpegplayer menu and enable Limit FPS and Skip Frames. 20.34.26 # barrywardell: If it hangs but things like backlight etc still react, it's very probably the main thread hanging in some endless loop that yields 20.34.40 # linuxstb_: is the rockboy so slow on ipods because of the slow lcd driver? 20.35.08 # Not all ipods have slow lcd drivers. 20.35.15 # what about 5.5G 20.35.34 # I've no idea what the bottleneck is in rockboy. 20.35.40 # :o 20.35.47 # what about doom then 20.35.47 # amiconn: the backlight handling is in the button driver (it's a button backlight), but I assume the same reasoning applies 20.36.00 # or just because of the megahertzes 20.36.01 # The video still plays too fast in the player, even with skip frames and limit fps on. 20.36.08 # Just the way it is right now? 20.36.50 # Does the video play at the correct speed in a PC video player? 20.37.09 # Let me check. 20.37.26 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 20.38.19 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.212.208) 20.39.03 # Yes. 20.39.09 # The video plays correctly on PC 20.39.35 # hmmm. the power_off() no longer gets called when it crashes. is that handled in the main thread? 20.40.03 # Simpson: Double-check that Limit FPS is still enabled. 20.40.07 Quit Xerion (" ") 20.40.27 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@zarathul.student.utwente.nl) 20.40.46 # Yup 20.40.48 # Still on. 20.41.00 # Let me convert another video and see if it changes. 20.43.40 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590faacf.pool.einsundeins.de) 20.47.30 Quit bly^afk ("Leaving") 20.48.48 # bluebrother, works great 20.49.02 # Ok, newly converted video works fine. 20.49.09 # Audio's in sync. 20.49.14 # Framerates good. 20.49.25 # Wish you coul adjust volume though.... 20.49.32 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.49.38 Quit zylche (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.50.32 Quit robin0800 ("Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day") 20.50.40 Join atsea-196 [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-0380c73a617e64ba) 20.51.06 # bluebrother, when editing the manual when it is using ucs, do we also save the source files as utf-8 then? 20.51.13 # can anyone help me get Manual compilation working...? I have installed tetex-base tetex-bin and tetex-extra, corrected the strange s character in credits, but still cannot get the manual to compile (output can be seen here http://www.rockbox-themes.org/error.html ) 20.51.54 # OS = Ubuntu 6.1 in VMWare in case that is important 20.52.01 # yep 20.52.13 # Redbreva, ubuntu uses dash instead of bash 20.52.43 # that is, /bin/sh is pointing to dash instead of bash 20.52.49 Join Danselky [0] (i=aa4c14fd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-91d63d9cf32edf58) 20.52.56 # tucoz: Sorry - not sure what you mean by that 20.53.03 # Redbreva, you mean ubuntu 6.10 right? 20.53.08 # yep 20.53.44 # i do not remember the syntax, but you could change the symlink /bin/sh to point to bash instead of dash 20.53.45 # Hey guys, I was looking through all the manuals for WPS coding, and I couldn't find anything about changing the font color for the WPS only... is it possible at all? 20.54.04 # Font color and size 20.54.06 # no 20.54.15 # Redbreva, could you do: ls -l /bin/sh ? 20.54.19 # without the ? 20.54.29 # I like bigger fonts for the menus, but lots of info on the WPS 20.54.49 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.54.58 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.66.191) 20.55.07 # Setting SHELL=/bin/bash in the Makefile should work. 20.55.16 # ok, that is better 20.56.39 # no one knows? 20.56.44 # bin/sh -> dash 20.57.07 # Whereablouts in make - anywhere? 20.57.25 # Danselky: Mikachu already answered - you can't. 20.58.52 # Redbreva, my guess is at the top somewhere 20.58.54 # invadrox makes the player unresponsive to any buttons, including power off, after the backlight fade (gigabeat target) 20.59.36 # or do you set export SHELL=/bin/bash? 21.00.09 # I think just SHELL=/bin/bash near the top should work. 21.00.42 # If the Makefile is using bash-isms, then we should probably add that in SVN. 21.01.02 # (or remove the bash-isms) 21.01.12 # hmm, tried both - neither option seemed to make a difference 21.01.24 # Which Makefile? 21.01.45 # the one inside the manual_video build folder 21.02.02 # tucoz, not necessarily -- except for the credits we don't use characters outside of ASCII, and the lower characters are identical to utf-8 21.02.21 # but, if we happen to use extended characters, we need to use utf8 for them then 21.02.32 # unless we write them as latex control sequences 21.02.44 Quit Mikachu (Remote closed the connection) 21.02.46 # ah, so those will still work 21.02.48 Join Mikachu [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 21.02.59 # yeah. No other changes necessary 21.03.03 # great 21.03.27 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.03.46 # that's the great thing about utf8 21.04.04 # Damn, sorry and thank you. 21.04.09 # Redbreva: Can you try changing the one in the main manual directory? 21.04.40 Quit Danselky ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.05.36 # dan_a: did you say before you had done some work on the sansa fm radio? 21.05.54 # barrywardell: Are there any combinations of SVN and KoCOP patch that do infact increase performance? 21.05.58 # barrywardell: I've not got far with it 21.06.49 # linuxstb_: Great!! SHELL=/bin/bash in the manual directory did the job ;-) Thanks 21.07.01 # dan_a: i have a tuner on my sansa so i was just curious 21.07.02 # then we should commit that imo 21.07.53 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 21.08.01 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.08.15 # barrywardell: The radio is a bit mad. It looks like to tune it you write a random value to the tuner and then measure what frequency that gives you, and go up or down based on that. 21.08.23 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.08.49 # That sounds more than a "bit mad". 21.09.20 # that sounds crazy 21.09.26 # I'm *sure* I'm missing something fundamental, but haven't figured out what yet. 21.09.27 # What an... Effective... System o.0. 21.09.45 # wouldn't you only need to do that once, then you know how the "random" value relates to the freq? 21.10.06 # Unless it's randomised each boot...? 21.10.24 # Where would the logic in that be o.0. 21.11.05 Part Simpson 21.11.05 # I guess so - or at least measure the highest and lowest frequencies, and see if the tuning is linear and work from there 21.11.28 # Strange, I seem to have a fully formed .pdf manual, but I got an error at the end of the compilation - /bin/sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected 21.11.53 Quit Soul-Slayer (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.12.09 # make[2]: *** [rockbox-build.pdf] Error 2 21.12.18 # where's the install instructions for the 5.5 30gb? 21.12.34 # maybe there is another Makefile that needs fixing 21.12.45 # as it calls /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash 21.13.03 # perhaps I need to leave it in the build dir makefile too 21.13.55 # and if that does not work, try the Makefile.pdflatex 21.14.09 # in the manual dir 21.14.16 Join Echelon [0] (i=ryan@lisa.echel0n.net) 21.17.24 # tucoz: Thanks - that was indeed the solution... both makefile and makefile.pdflatex in the manual dir needed SHELL=/bin/bash at the top... manual has now built to completion without errors... 21.17.24 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=jonno@84.13.181.234) 21.18.04 # cool. thanks for the help with the bug-hunting 21.18.12 # ;-) 21.18.42 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 21.24.26 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.25.38 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@234.80-202-98.nextgentel.com) 21.26.32 # bluebrother, should we commit the fix to be able to build the manual on ubuntu 6.10? 21.27.01 # we have to expect people to have /bin/bash though 21.28.38 # Do we know what dash isn't happy with?? 21.29.36 # hehe. you want to go for that route instead of the quick hack 21.30.08 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.30.25 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.30.39 Quit OgMaciel ("be back soon") 21.30.53 # it is definitley better to find that out, albeit more work 21.31.03 # * linuxstb_ adds SHELL=/bin/dash to his Makefile 21.31.28 Quit Mikachu (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.31.42 # dash... ? 21.31.55 # debians shell 21.32.04 # they need their own shell ? 21.32.17 # something to do with licenses probably 21.32.24 # and, it's a lot leaner than bash 21.33.01 # "A difference between dash and bash is the echo command : you can't escape characters : "\\n" always print a newline with dash, whereas it prints "\n" with bash." 21.33.07 # Ubuntu changed to dash (for bin/sh) because it was smaller and faster. 21.35.39 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590faacf.pool.einsundeins.de) 21.36.28 # Hmm.. Seems dash wants echo "\\\newcommand" to output "\newcommand" 21.36.44 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.221.206) 21.37.18 # The same in bash gives \\newcommand 21.37.30 # exactly what i pasted ^^ ;) 21.38.18 # Ah, you meant that you can't escape characters in bash? 21.38.25 Join Mikachu [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 21.38.53 # hehe, i am not sure after i read that again 21.39.22 # The -e option to the bash echo will enable interpretation of escape codes. 21.40.11 # But yes, dash doesn't have a -e option, and interprets escape codes by default. 21.40.18 # i see 21.41.01 # * linuxstb_ curses latex's use of \ 21.41.32 # is it possible to fix the makefiles then? 21.42.33 # Maybe by avoiding echo and using a different command 21.42.47 # cat perhaps? 21.46.15 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.46.32 Join OgMaciel [0] (n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist) 21.46.45 # disconnecting...good night 21.46.58 # How could cat help? 21.48.04 # I would just ask our Ubuntu user's nicely to install bash as another part of the toolchain 21.48.29 # trying to accomodate too many other configurations is a recipe for a nasty headache for someone IMHO 21.49.21 # linuxstb, i am not sure actually 21.49.44 # The problem is that if we force the Makefile to use /bin/bash, it breaks building on systems with other (but compatible) shells, and no bash. 21.50.32 # which systems are those / 21.50.33 # ? 21.50.52 # mac os x and freebsd etc I guess 21.50.57 # Does cygwin always install bash? 21.51.09 # they don't use bash ? 21.51.16 # Mac OS X has always come with bash, and since about the 2nd version bash is the default shell. 21.51.18 # then we can tell them to symlink /bin/bash to their shell 21.51.21 # ok 21.51.46 # I was going to say. The last time I used OSX I could have sworn it was a bash shell! 21.51.54 # is there an alternative to echo then? 21.52.14 # Maybe /bin/echo, I don't know how common that is though. 21.52.27 # (rather than the echo built into the shell) 21.52.49 # I have a /bin/echo 21.53.16 # is there a function already in rockbox to convert unix time to the time format used by timefuncs.c? 21.53.23 # it's help text apparently doesn't recommend it's use 21.53.30 # it says "use your shell's implementation" 21.53.47 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-118-013.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.53.49 # or rather "your shell's implementation usually supercedes" 21.53.56 # actually, i want to convert seconds since 1-jan-1980 to the right format 21.54.57 # so not a unix time then 21.55.18 # that would be a unix time plus about ten years of seconds 21.55.25 # no, 10 years off 21.55.40 # i guess there's probably not... 21.55.59 # I don't even know if there's such a thing in libc 21.56.03 # let alone rockbox 21.56.08 Join fasmaie [0] (i=1000@cpe-65-24-91-251.columbus.res.rr.com) 21.56.21 # The seconds, minutes and hours should be easy 21.56.35 # well, the time diff from 1-jan-1970 to 1-jan-1980 is fixed... 21.57.04 # so with libc it would be easy I mean 21.57.22 # there's a good reason I'm not a professional programmer anymore :) 21.57.28 # hehe 21.57.40 # other people are much better at it than me 21.57.51 # 315532800 seconds is the diff 21.57.57 # Bagder: true. i could just add 10 years in seconds if there's already a function in rockbox. i don't see one though. would it be useful to have, or will i just do it in the rtc driver? 21.58.42 # do it in the driver for now, and if someone else wants to use it later we can move it out 21.58.50 # imo 21.59.00 # k 21.59.14 Quit Soul-Slayer ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 21.59.59 # does anyone know the mah figure for a default gigabeat F40 battery btw ? 22.00.57 Join sonnybobiche [0] (i=staveito@dyn-shp-225-235.dyn.columbia.edu) 22.01.09 # Back to the manual, I can think of 3 options: 1) Tell dash users to change /bin/sh; 2) Add SHELL=/bin/bash to the Makefiles; or 3) Use /bin/echo 22.01.35 # at least setting the clock will be easy. there's already mktime in timefuncs.c :) 22.01.35 # ok so i have found a serious bug in the video ipod version of rockbox 22.01.44 # but nobody seems to want to hear about it 22.02.04 # sonnybobiche: there's a bug tracker you know 22.02.12 # i did not! 22.02.18 # excellent where to? 22.02.21 # check the left-side menu of the site 22.02.46 # well... 22.03.01 # i thought that was just like... reports of known bugs 22.03.03 # "bug reports" it says 22.03.06 # i feel a bit silly now 22.03.13 # hehe 22.03.54 # Bagder: I'm going to be committing a change suggested by a patch on FS soon, should I just ask for it to be closed or might I get that permission on FS? 22.04.11 # FS#6603, btw 22.04.13 # hcs: tell me your FS name and I'll give you the superpowers 22.04.13 Quit toffe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.04.22 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.04.50 # Bagder: AdamGashlin 22.05.25 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.05.30 # now you can close 22.05.38 # huzzah 22.06.11 # just gotta wait for the build tests to finish here 22.06.19 # * GodEater wonders whether sonnybobiche will search and see if his bug is already logged 22.07.27 Join andrewg [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162092137.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 22.07.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.07.53 # GodEater 850mah i believe 22.08.05 # only 850 ? 22.08.12 # wow 22.08.30 # and what battery life are people getting ? 22.09.20 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.09.34 # linuxstb, i like 2) best 22.10.00 Quit barrywardell () 22.11.31 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82-43-212-90.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.11.52 # GodEater up to 20 hours 22.12.11 # that is outstanding from an 850mah battery 22.12.28 # <]RowaN[> guys i used mi4code to decrypt sansa 1.03 firmware.. but when i try and dualboot into it, it just hangs on the Refresh Database screen. Is that normal? time for recovery mode perhaps.. 22.12.50 # report submitted! 22.12.55 Join scubacoles [0] (n=scoles@eth4699.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) 22.12.55 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 22.13.07 # ]RowaN[: I don't think we've heard that before, no 22.13.35 # <]RowaN[> bugger 22.13.56 # is there a particular build of rockbox that gets more attention than any other? 22.13.58 # <]RowaN[> it should work ok? 22.14.29 # <]RowaN[> im not sure what i should name the mi4 file i copy over when in recovery mode.. i gather 1.03 looks for firmware.mi4 instead of pp5022.mi4. i dont want to double brick my sansa =] 22.14.32 # ]RowaN[: I'm not sure if anyone tried with 1.03 before 22.14.51 # firmware.mi4 afaik 22.14.59 # <]RowaN[> here goes nothing.. 22.15.24 # and putting a bad mi4 on it in recovery mode does not brick it 22.16.17 # I would expect using the wrong file name just will make the player ignore the file 22.16.34 # but who knows 22.16.59 # <]RowaN[> ookkk.. recovery mode is not giving me the recovery mode screen 22.17.19 # gah my bug was already reported, but there seems to be a slight variation 22.17.34 Join dantje [0] (n=dvg@HSI-KBW-085-216-028-167.hsi.kabelbw.de) 22.18.08 # <]RowaN[> ladies and gentlemen we have a brick 22.18.19 # congratulations 22.18.38 # * hcs prepares the 21-bootloader salute 22.19.29 # ]RowaN[: e200tool time... 22.19.54 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html#usbmodes 22.20.58 # you can never have too many usb modes :) 22.21.02 Quit lini ("lini has no reason") 22.21.12 Join tucoz [0] (i=480ec021@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-cc01af2c69d4fbaa) 22.21.46 # exactly 22.22.20 Part sonnybobiche 22.22.30 # <]RowaN[> AH..... 22.22.50 # <]RowaN[> the rockbox Help page gives instructions for accessing MANUFACTURING mode under the heading "Recovery mode" 22.23.04 # <]RowaN[> on this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200TroubleShooting 22.23.22 # <]RowaN[> whats the process for recovery mode? 22.23.38 # see the url I pasted 22.23.47 # and about 7 lines down 22.23.47 # <]RowaN[> ah hold record 22.23.55 # <]RowaN[> got recovery mode yay! =] 22.25.14 # <]RowaN[> thanks bagder 22.25.22 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 22.25.23 Join Xaar [0] (n=Xaar@84.6.2.199) 22.25.24 # <]RowaN[> just to clarify, that page i pasted is giving the wrong instructions under "Recovery Mode" title 22.25.32 # I've fixed it now 22.25.37 # <]RowaN[> cool 22.25.50 # <]RowaN[> and my dad said i would amount to nothing! 22.25.50 # hi 22.26.00 # :-) 22.26.35 Quit lini (Client Quit) 22.26.43 # bah 22.26.57 # i wish pagefault would have uploaded that bloody spc player of his 22.27.08 # i have a ask, with rockbox, can i use itunes for synchronate music of my computer to ipod 30gb 5.5 ? 22.27.19 # hcs: remember to ask for his name (FS#6603) and add it to the credits 22.27.22 # Xaar: if you use iTunesAgent you can 22.27.26 # (http://ita.sf.net) 22.27.27 # preglow: have you seen hcs patch? 22.27.37 # thank i go to seek this 22.27.47 # no problem 22.28.03 # Genre9mp3: no... but he did talk about it, and it sounded nice 22.28.20 Quit datachild (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.23 # preglow: FS #6542 22.28.24 # Bagder: hm, ok, is there any way to contact him besides asking on the task? 22.28.40 # preglow: It's realtime and works pretty well 22.28.41 # hcs: nope, not if no other info has been given 22.28.55 # ir 22.28.57 # or 22.29.01 Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) 22.29.01 Quit Everybody ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.29.05 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 22.29.06 # well, his email is available on his account page 22.29.12 # at least to me 22.29.19 # Genre9mp3: pagefault said he had it going with all bells and whistles realtime on an ipod 22.29.37 # ... but that's probably only because I'm an admin 22.30.07 Quit tucoz ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.30.14 # Genre9mp3: doesn't that codec disable echo and interpolation and stuff to make it realtime? 22.30.16 # Bagder: yeah, I don't have it 22.30.33 # preglow: hcs is here so you better ask him 22.30.35 # :) 22.31.09 # preglow: we use linear interpolation now, but yeah, echo disabled on ipod 22.31.14 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.31.27 # and with that nearly everything is full speed 22.31.40 # with echo there'd be a few that don't quite make it 22.31.50 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 22.32.00 # hcs: at 32khz? 22.32.07 # preglow: yeah 22.32.09 # preglow: Also, if you are _that_ interested on pagefault's never submited patch... a "/whois pagefault" gives me "pagefault on #zsnes" ;) 22.32.13 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-112-231.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.32.51 # Genre9mp3: i know, and i've msged him, never got an answer 22.33.02 # preglow: he claims to have lost it 22.33.09 # hcs: well, that solves that, then 22.33.18 # hmmm.. weird 22.33.18 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 22.33.24 # hum a another ask TrueJournals with itunesagent, i cant take my *.mp3 same as itunes original or edit my older playlist created by the real itunes? 22.33.39 # people should post patches earlier 22.34.02 # indeed, I know I like to post things as soon as they're working, before even 22.34.30 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 22.35.03 Quit Bagder (Nick collision from services.) 22.35.08 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 22.35.24 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.35.36 Quit mathgl ("Quitte") 22.36.37 Join webguest04 [0] (i=44c1fd7f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b7588edf56b10832) 22.38.09 Quit webguest04 (Client Quit) 22.38.11 # the gaussian interpolation is table based, yes? 22.38.18 # Xaar: With ita, you can sync all your .mp3 files, but you cannot sync playlists I don't believe... I'm not really quite sure... 22.38.38 # preglow: yes, and you can easily enable it when building the patch if you want to check it out 22.38.57 # that and echo are controlled by preprocessor defines at the top of spc.c 22.39.33 # i think too of it's only for sync playlist into a hdd same as a usb key or other ^^ 22.39.35 Quit freqmod (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.39.59 # hcs: i'll give it a listen 22.40.18 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 22.40.34 Join amiconn__ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.41.17 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.215.116) 22.41.19 # <]RowaN[> hmm my sansa isnt showing up as a drive anymore, from OF usb connection. maybe my poor pc needs a little reboot.. its had a busy day 22.41.24 # preglow: linear interpolation also uses sample caching which helps out as well 22.41.26 Quit zylche (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.41.48 # hcs: sample caching as it caches a sample after having interpolated it at a specific pitch? 22.41.50 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.42.09 # preglow: no, just caches the decoded samples from BRR 22.42.34 Quit amiconn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.42.34 Nick amiconn__ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.43.18 # hcs: what's with putting the source files straight in codecs/ ? 22.43.57 # preglow: blargg did that... I had it all in one file but he split it back out, and I was too lazy to make a subdirectory 22.47.58 Join heavylaythecrown [0] (n=asdf@user-0cetep4.cable.mindspring.com) 22.48.53 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Jonno@84.13.181.234) 22.50.51 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 22.50.58 # good night all + 22.51.02 Quit Xaar ("Bye leaving") 22.51.29 # hmm 22.51.37 # there's some scratching here that doesn't sound too nice 22.51.48 # i wonder if that's the resampler... 22.51.58 # it is... 22.52.42 # ooh, ff6 soundtrack 22.52.47 # this deserves a whiskey 22.54.02 # what's with the super long fading? rockbox does its own fading 22.54.38 Quit DataGhost (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.54.46 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 22.54.55 Quit dantje ("Ex-Chat") 22.55.37 # hcs: but it does sound decent, yes 22.55.47 # preglow: er, fading... I read tags 22.56.01 # h1x0 with echo and gaussian interpolation and it does skip from time to time, though, that needs fixing 22.56.04 # hcs: i mean fading on pause 22.56.43 # sweet lord, this resampler really, really needs fixing 22.57.16 # preglow: well, echo and gaussian interpolation is disabled on anything but gigabeat builds, by default, the fading is slow because so much cpu is being used the fader doesn't get a lot of time 22.57.25 Quit amiconn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.57.42 # <]RowaN[> for anyone interested, here is the latest windows binary of mi4code http://rapidshare.com/files/14314056/mi4code_0.9.31-beta__January_25_2007_.zip.html 22.57.43 # really now 22.57.48 # that's pretty slow 22.58.01 # <]RowaN[> use at your own risk =] 22.58.04 # that's why I have fade on pause disabled 22.58.10 # ]RowaN[: thanks 22.58.16 # i have that too, but my settings seem to be reset 22.58.18 # <]RowaN[> np 22.58.22 # hmm 22.58.29 # dsp doesn't seem to be optimised at all 22.59.12 # spc dsp? 22.59.28 # yes 22.59.36 # my dsp is at least somewhat optimised :) 22.59.45 # any improvements I'd be glad to consider 23.00.19 # the fir filter at least is bEGGING for some nice emac asm 23.00.23 Quit OgMaciel ("Ex-Chat") 23.00.57 # oh, well, I'd rather avoid that, and I don't consider the fir to terribly important anyway 23.00.59 # this thing is structured really badly for optimising, though 23.01.01 # class now, later 23.01.02 # it does A TON of stuff per sample 23.01.21 # the fir is important, it does a ton of memory acceses 23.01.39 # (as in, I can just throw it out and it doesn't bother me) 23.02.06 # it would me 23.02.28 # I look forward to checking out your improvements, bye 23.02.39 # this dsp loop really is structured badly :/ 23.03.06 # oh, you won't see any anytime soon, but perhaps in a couple of days 23.03.07 # bye 23.05.08 Quit Thundercloud__ (Connection timed out) 23.07.15 Join tucoz [0] (i=480ec035@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8f92d23df23487ce) 23.07.43 # bluebrother: i got virtualbox running with shared folders 23.08.10 # bluebrother: it only works if you download the proprietary build 23.09.33 # to use it, you install the virtualbox guest additions. that is on a iso in the program installation that you mount and run a script from (from within the vm) 23.11.35 Quit tucoz (Client Quit) 23.15.42 Quit amiconn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.19.11 Quit heavylaythecrown ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.19.43 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 23.19.45 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 23.19.47 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.20.03 # ok i got a question about the bug tracker, I'm having a problem similar to the one described in here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5199, but on my ipod nano 23.20.24 # I was told that, because it has a colour screen, the fix will probably be completely different 23.20.36 # should I open a new bug report for this? 23.20.52 # no, submit a comment in the existing one about it 23.21.10 # ok, done that already 23.21.47 # i just wondered, cause it mentions in the original bug report specifically the player it involves (mini2G or something) 23.22.10 # * preglow hugs rockbox 23.22.45 # you can't beat esoteric format support 23.24.21 # you're closing in on xmms 23.24.34 # but xmms is crap 23.24.52 # indeed 23.24.54 # i mean in the esoteric format support department, it was not meant as an insult :) 23.25.17 # Mikachu: it automatically becomes an insult when mentioned in a context apart from how much xmms sucks 23.25.31 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.25.32 # even then it's sketchy 23.25.55 # sweet lord, this resampler is capable of some heavy-duty clicking 23.25.56 # in that case i change my statement to {} 23.26.15 # * preglow summons people knowledgable about playback.c 23.29.03 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD608A.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.29.11 # you missed 23.29.16 Part perl|work 23.29.23 # Hey, if anyone here was waiting for a newer version of the kernel_on_cop patch... I just made one and I'd like other people to test it 23.29.47 # Hard to say if it works or not... seems to be working fine for me though... 23.30.47 Quit Ribs ("eh eh ehhhh!") 23.31.53 # you just changed yield() to sleep(HZ)? 23.31.59 # if the resampler would suddenly stop clicking, this spc plugin is pretty decent as is 23.32.17 # * Mikachu hugs interdiff 23.32.41 # TrueJournals, I would love to test it for you, one little problem though... You couldn't compile me a H10 5gb version could you :$? 23.33.43 # Soul-Slayer: I'll do that right now... give me just a second... 23.33.54 # Thanks a lot. 23.34.12 # np 23.34.39 # what does kernel_on_cop do again? put a kernel on the cop as well? 23.34.50 # yes 23.34.57 # do we need a fully fledged kernel there? 23.34.57 # Not 'as well', but instead, I believe 23.34.58 # i think it puts the kernel on the cop 23.35.01 # not a 23.35.01 # and it enables audio playback on the cop instead of the main core 23.35.08 # why would we want to put the kernel only on the cop? 23.35.21 # well, it's on both 23.35.29 # I'm not sure about the specifics :-\ 23.35.30 # So as to free up a processor for other tasks 23.35.32 # i think linuxstb has something to do with it 23.36.38 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 23.36.42 # i still think using the second core for the codec only is pretty much what we want 23.36.52 # but then again, i'm not involved in it at all 23.37.02 # it is... but I think we need a kernel on the second core to do that 23.37.08 # like I said, I'm not quite sure... 23.37.13 # running the lcd and codec on separate cores would seem the smart thing to do 23.37.28 # Currently, the COP just sits there doing nothing. Pretty much anything running on it has to be a step forward :p 23.37.43 # it does that... lcd = core 1, codec = core 2 23.38.32 Quit zefie (Remote closed the connection) 23.38.39 # TrueJournals: then i don't see the need for a kernel on it 23.38.50 # I'm sure there is reasoning behind it 23.38.55 # Like I said... I'm really not quite sure about why 23.39.04 # Would have to speak to someone like barrywardell or linuxstb I guess 23.39.12 # the reasoning could be "it's good in case we want to do something else in the future" 23.39.14 # exactly 23.39.22 # ...which would not be a good reason 23.39.29 # lol 23.39.35 # swedish logic 23.39.41 # KISS logic 23.39.53 # don't add code you don't use today 23.40.24 # I'm actually not quite even sure that at this point the kernel runs on the cop... it might just be the audio codec. With recent patches if I go to view OS stacks, I just see the codec on the second core... nothing else 23.40.31 # i vaguely remember something about irqs only going to the main cpu, or something 23.40.58 # that could possibly be controlled somehow 23.41.03 # inded 23.41.05 Join andrewg_ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162082156.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 23.41.08 # i'm sure it can 23.41.14 # I hacked on a dual-core thing recently that could do it that way 23.41.55 # i'm 99% certain i speaked to the ipl people about that 23.42.08 # Soul-Slayer: I'm zipping up the two files, I'll upload them to rapidshare.com and give you the link, OK? 23.42.14 # lots of the reg addresses have separate addresse for cop and cpu anyway 23.42.23 # well, some, at least 23.42.31 # Sure thing. Two files? 23.42.32 # ah preglow, and I was wondering what all these clicks on SPC files are... 23.42.42 # XavierGr: that's the resampler, tell it i said hi 23.43.00 # two files: rockbox.zip (rockbox itsself), and H10.mi4 (new bootloader... not quite sure if you need it.. I think you do though) 23.43.01 # but I thought it was coming from the SPCs because I have some ripped SPCs that click too 23.43.09 # XavierGr: they really shouldn't 23.43.17 # Aha, okay 23.43.17 # an spc is just a memdump, not a recording 23.43.51 # I'll just remove my current rockbox setup 23.43.51 Quit efyx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.44.03 # preglow: beats me 23.44.14 # It's uploading... 23.44.16 # when the resampler is going to get better :P 23.44.28 # ^+? 23.44.52 # Soul-Slayer: http://rapidshare.com/files/14320116/56-cop-rockbox.zip 23.44.55 # when someone figures out what's wrong with it 23.45.07 # Put H10.mi4 in your system folder and extract rockbox.zip to the root of your H10 23.45.11 # i've had looks at the resampler code itself, and i can't find anything wrong 23.45.16 # i suspect it's in playback.c the error is 23.45.19 # let me know how it works 23.45.24 # Okay, I'll take it from here, thank you. 23.45.31 # no problem 23.46.51 # I wish the plaback system was somewhat more stable... 23.47.43 Quit andrewg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.49.22 # Right, first off this bootloader isn't working, so I'll try it with my old one again 23.49.38 Join JohnyTheHess [0] (n=JohnyThe@ool-44c1fd7f.dyn.optonline.net) 23.49.54 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e20fff30dab956b5) 23.50.03 # hm... the first bootloader I made for my H10 didn't work either 23.50.03 # Okay, were in. How would you like me to test it? 23.50.16 # does it seem to be running at normal speed? 23.50.34 # Scrolls up and down this list of my root directory fine, yes 23.50.34 # Test it by playing a music file and trying to play a game like jewels... see if the music pauses at all 23.50.42 # Okay, hold on 23.51.42 # good evening to you all. I would lilke to speak to someone who is familiar with using rockbox on the sandisk sansa series 250? hope I have that right. I have the 8 gig and would like to know if before loading the files if I need to put it in to a specivic mode and if theer is a shortcut to do this? this was not specified in the manual. 23.52.17 # Very interesting... Let me try running Jewels without playing music 23.52.29 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@e177166188.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.52.30 # does the music pause when playing music? 23.53.01 # No, and Jewels appears to run at full speed too, atleast I think so, thats why I am testing it without music 23.53.12 # in that case, it seems that my patch works well :-D 23.53.22 # Yep, Jewels runs same speed with and without music 23.53.32 # one more thing... 23.53.32 # woo, check this out: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/tailreader.pl?date=20070131 23.53.36 # I'll try it with the 'Plasma' plugin, that always lagged like crazy when I ran it with Music, hold on 23.53.40 # I just need to make it autoscroll too 23.53.56 # ajaxy 23.54.03 # Zagor: oooh, snappy 23.54.29 # Plasma still runs jumpily it seems 23.54.33 # Mikachu: yeah you'd think so, but this is actually plain http. 23.54.37 # When you still have music playing, go to the rockbox menu, go to Info > Debug > View OS stacks, see if it says (1) B 4 codec at the bottom (well, at least make sure it says (1) before codec) 23.54.45 # Ok 23.55.28 # It flashes between 23.55.28 # (1) *R 4 codec: 93% 23.55.28 # (1) S 4 codec: 93% 23.55.33 # But definitely has that (1), yes 23.55.38 # cool 23.55.45 # then I would say my patch works well :-D 23.56.05 # Well done :p 23.56.05 # I wanted to know if a used iriver h320 is worth upgrading (battery and hard drive) to run rockbox on it ? A friend is willing to sell his player cheap (bad battery). 23.56.07 # Where was the problem? 23.56.15 # I duno 23.56.17 # Lol 23.56.21 # I just resycned kernel_on_cop_6 23.56.28 # Interesting 23.56.34 # maybe barry left out something in kernel_on_cop_7 or something... 23.56.40 # Quite possibly 23.56.45 # anyway, I gotta go for now... I'll be back later 23.56.53 # Okay then, well done :P. See you around. 23.57.04 Part TrueJournals 23.57.18 Quit funky ("leaving") 23.58.13 # ? ``Good evening can anyone tell me if I need to put the sansa sandisk player in a particular mode for loading the rockbox files and if theer is a shortcut to doing this rather then using the menus?