--- Log for 03.02.107 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 18 hours ago 00.00.32 Quit robin0800_ ("Remember, you're unique, like everyone else") 00.03.34 Quit subson () 00.05.03 # heh 00.05.07 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 00.05.08 Join mattzz_ [0] (n=mattzz@e177175232.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.05.13 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.05.25 # never did figure it out myself 00.05.35 # i just hope it's not a resampler bug 00.05.40 # that would make me look a fool 00.05.49 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.05.52 # time for another whisky 00.05.54 # I'm thinking "off by one on something" or whatever but no 00.06.57 Part TrueJournals_ 00.07.18 # good idea 00.10.56 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.185.243) 00.13.15 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.13.35 Quit mattzz (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.13.43 Nick mattzz_ is now known as mattzz (n=mattzz@e177175232.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.14.12 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.13 Join Administrator_ [0] (n=chatzill@58.69.37.194) 00.14.21 Nick Administrator_ is now known as Pope (n=chatzill@58.69.37.194) 00.14.29 # Hello guys 00.19.45 # jhMikeS: but it's pretty much gotta be that 00.24.50 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 00.24.56 Join AndreSmith [0] (n=MyUser@60-242-25-74.static.tpgi.com.au) 00.25.19 Part AndreSmith 00.26.07 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.26.31 Join Jakeworld [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f359693fcb8f354b) 00.26.47 Quit midkay (Client Quit) 00.26.51 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.30.27 Quit Jakeworld (Client Quit) 00.31.13 Quit lukaswayne9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.33.01 # though I can see some optimization potential :) 00.37.50 Join Jakeworld [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5c78c63fb74bd3d3) 00.41.47 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 00.42.09 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp129-92.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.48.14 # so quiet 00.49.51 Quit Genre9mp3 ("/quit") 00.51.05 Nick thekid2 is now known as xxpor (n=none@pool-72-73-229-64.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) 00.51.40 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@cpe-65-24-165-152.columbus.res.rr.com) 00.51.47 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.202) 00.53.25 # jhMikeS: good, good, where? :) 00.56.04 Quit Genre9mp3 (Client Quit) 00.57.34 # preglow: move the channel loop to the outside. use r->phase = phase & 0xffff. use one set of loops for the entire run. those come to mind 00.57.59 # jhMikeS: ah, yes, i'm planning to optimise the whole shebang in asm when i find something permanent 00.58.01 # and why reset r->delta when it's never changed? 00.58.13 # jhMikeS: that's one of the local changes i have :) 00.58.30 # preglow: I scanned through the logs, how far did you get with the upsampling clicking problem? 00.58.47 # the current resampler was really never meant to be permanent, but i've really never gotten around to researching somethin better... 00.58.53 # and doing (phase & 0xffff) when phase >> 16 == 0 is redundant 00.59.00 # markun: this far -><- 00.59.02 # I remember that disabling the actual resampling didn't get rid of the clicking 00.59.07 # jhMikeS: also among the local changes i have 00.59.47 # well, it's not if there's just a single loop I guess :) 01.01.03 # markun: if that's the case, then it can't be there. It has periodic clicking on a 32k wav that should still be there then. 01.01.30 # jhMikeS: don't take my word for it by try it yourself 01.02.01 # but 01.04.12 # hmmm...should only be two statements...one in each of two functions right? 01.04.45 # oops, found another 01.05.50 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.198.82) 01.06.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.45 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.07.33 # If I disable the size adjustments and the call to resample the artifacts disappear 01.07.59 Part n1s 01.08.06 # ! 01.08.58 # jhMikeS: do you thing the adjustments are wrong? 01.09.14 # i think they are 01.09.21 # but never could make them work 01.09.57 Part barrywardell 01.10.25 # couldn't say yet...possibly 01.11.45 # I really don't see a resampler problem. I checked each possible initial state and followed from there and it looks good. 01.12.36 # only thing i've got locally is a dsp_input_size() fix, i see 01.13.12 # which is just taking the current phase into account as well 01.13.15 # but i think it doesn't matter 01.14.21 # I think a check should be made to be sure playback sends _exactly_ as much to the pcm buffer as the dsp generated. All I can think of atm. 01.14.28 # good luck with it. I'm going to sleep. 01.14.39 # gnight 01.16.22 # I tend to have a problem after compiling a build for the ipod color, in which the ipod always freezes; I have the newest bootloader, etc., and regardless of whether I apply any patches, freezing is a result 01.16.35 # jhMikeS: well, i think the bug's got to be around that part of the code anyway 01.16.57 # I'm trying to compile my own build... and I know frequency is an issue, but I would like to compile my own build if possible 01.17.24 # Jakeworld: freezing where and when? 01.17.32 # before rockbox even loads 01.17.45 # the apple logo shows, and then it freezes 01.18.45 # usually the only builds that work with me lately are unsupported builds, and I have no problem applying any patches, but any involving frequency scaling seem to be broken 01.18.47 Quit xxpor (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.20.28 # are there any frequency scaling related patches that will compile? 01.21.37 # hmm 01.22.03 # if you consistently get freezes at the apple logo, i don't know what is wrong 01.22.04 # I know 6095 was closed only a couple days ago 01.22.14 # but frequency scaling can be disabled quickly, if you want to test 01.22.16 # "upsampling" to the same frequency sounds ok 01.22.21 # Jakeworld: I stick with just disabling 01.22.34 # how would I approach that? 01.22.53 # edit firmware/export/config-ipodcolor.h and comment out the HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ 01.23.03 # jhMikeS: i never had problems with upsampling 01.24.43 # didn't you tell me upsampling (esp. 32kHz)? What am I goofing around with a 32kHz wav then? :P 01.25.26 # eh, forget me 01.25.33 # upsampling is what i have problems with :) 01.25.34 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-201-77.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 01.25.40 # downsampling, not so 01.25.59 # more whiskey time ;) 01.26.03 # indeed, heh 01.26.16 # i get mixed up since pitching up means downsampling, and pitching down means upsampling 01.28.05 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.28.06 # playback seems to send what dsp_process returns as the data size...so that looks good 01.28.53 Quit Thundercloud_ (Connection timed out) 01.31.06 # yes, and that can't be bloody wrong 01.31.13 # it's a loop counter in the resample routines 01.31.35 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 01.31.39 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.31.45 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.33.41 # alright, compiling now... I'll find out if I did this right 01.34.31 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@unaffiliated/brunellus) 01.39.15 # well, commenting out the frequency scaling code worked 01.41.24 # did it, now 01.41.36 # weird that it affects the colour that badly 01.41.51 # especially since we have other devs with ipod colors 01.42.09 # yes! my brand new rockbox is installed, filled with media, databased, and working :) 01.42.27 # this must be a great day for you! 01.43.11 # given it's a home-compiled build, yeah, i'm pretty pleased 01.43.27 Quit Arathis (Remote closed the connection) 01.43.29 Join TrueJournals_ [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.43.54 Nick TrueJournals_ is now known as TrueJournals (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.44.03 # heh 01.44.44 # album art patch, and a theme hacked to support it 01.44.50 # oooh...totally fixed it 01.45.11 # and gapless. bliss \o/ 01.45.24 # size = ((unsigned long)size << 16) / resample_data[current_codec].delta; I hope that gets it right. 01.45.55 # 32k wav sounds perfect that way 01.46.07 Part TrueJournals 01.46.24 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54849DF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.47.46 Quit entheh ("^~") 01.48.06 # wtf 01.48.08 # where? 01.48.46 # ahhhhh 01.49.16 # but... 01.49.19 Quit juxtap (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.49.39 # ehm 01.49.42 # why does that work? 01.49.43 # just a preliminary...probably needs a long long? 01.49.54 # probably not, but on the safe side, etc 01.50.04 # most codecs pass pretty tiny buffers 01.50.10 Quit Pope ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 01.50.39 # so you solved the clicking issues? :D 01.50.47 # cause it gives you the number of resampler deltas 01.51.08 # the current position probably needs to be baked into it too 01.51.11 # for max accuracy 01.52.36 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-112-231.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 01.53.10 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@24.12.147.61) 01.53.14 Part aly76 01.53.18 Join Digital [0] (n=steve@S01060050bfec5d4e.ed.shawcable.net) 01.53.21 # Hello. 01.53.25 # * jhMikeS is thinking about the "baking" part 01.53.40 # So the rockbox main page does not list iPod 3g as a supported model, yet there's a manual for ipod 3g. 01.53.46 # Is 3g supported or is it deprecated or something? 01.54.01 # Because I have a creaky-ass old 3g ipod. 01.54.14 # that sounds unpleasant.. 01.55.00 # jhMikeS: probably just added to the delta 01.55.32 # Digital: it works, i think, but does not perform very well 01.55.39 # Digital: and it's a bit unlikely it ever will 01.55.45 # the 3g is seriously underpowered 01.55.53 # has anyone else been having issues with connecting their ipod to the USB while it is in sleep mode? 01.56.30 # preglow: ach, that's too bad. 01.56.40 # preglow: how would the poor performance manifest itself? just sluggish menus? 01.56.49 # I'm assuming mp3 playback would still be fine since that's in hardware. 01.57.14 # it's got, what, some dinky ARM processor in there? 01.57.44 # I heard that the cache was useless or something 01.57.57 # It can't hurt to try, anyway. Is there any chance of me bricking my ipod by running an sort-of supported platform? 01.58.09 # iPods are neigh impossible to brick. 01.58.30 # iPods also all have no MP3 hardware - everything is software on a dual ARM processor. 01.58.30 # Digital: mp3 playback is not in hardware 01.58.42 # oh, really? I didn't know that. 01.58.46 # Digital: there's an arm, yes, as in all other ipods, but the cache is broken, effectively halving the clock frequency 01.58.54 # Jakeworld: Rockbox has no sleep mode... 01.59.10 # I assumed there was a dedicated mpeg/whatever decoder and the processor just directed it to the right buffer. 01.59.27 # Digital: nopes, it's all in software, and apple's got one hell of a lot faster decoder than we have 01.59.28 # preglow: can you explain the cache issue (or point me to a page that does)? It sounds kind of interesting. 01.59.50 # er... I meant off mode 01.59.52 # oh, so I might actually get interrupted playback. 01.59.57 # Digital: i can't remember any urls, but the gist of it is really just that the cache needs two cycles for each access, ass opposed to all other sane caches who need one 02.00.05 # Digital: interrupted, oh yes siree 02.00.19 # Digital: a few rockbox codecs work fine on the 3g, but mp3 is not among them 02.00.27 # i expect flac will work fine 02.00.29 # also musepack does 02.00.38 # I've heard that the freeze may be attributed to the COP patch.. so that may be it 02.00.40 # what kinds of issues are you having Jakeworld ? 02.01.05 # what decoder does rockbox use under the hood? is it just a port of faad/etc or is it from scratch? 02.01.09 # well, when connecting the iPod to the USB when it is off, it freezes 02.01.29 # the ipod has to be on for the ipod to into disk mode 02.01.30 # I am bothered that an evil closed-source corporation could possibly best the collective genius of open source. 02.01.58 # it's not a big issue, i'm just curious 02.02.35 # said closed-source corporation has open-book access to the hardware. 02.02.50 # (or atleast developement tools for said hardware) 02.03.17 # Digital: we use a modified libmad 02.03.38 # Digital: for aac we use faad, yes, but that's an even more inefficient codec 02.03.51 # mp3 runs nicely on most of our targets, aac only on a couple 02.04.31 # Digital: when it comes to hand-optimising stuff in assembler, being paid to do the job sure is a nice way to get it done 02.04.36 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 02.05.23 # ah, yes. 02.05.32 # So what platform does rockbox run best on, anyway? 02.05.48 # I just wanted to try it out on my ipod before I decided if I was going to make my replacement buying decision based on rockbox compatibility. 02.05.48 # the iriver h1x0/h3x0 ones, i'd say 02.06.05 # but i don't know, really, i've only got an iriver h120 and ipod nano 02.06.08 # Since my 3g gets 45 minutes to a charge on a good day. 02.08.00 # hey, anyone here use the VMWare image for development? 02.08.05 # Digital, i was told the gigabeat was the best platform 02.08.14 # Digital, which is why i bought one 02.08.16 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 02.08.27 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.08.37 # the gigabeat looks promising indeed 02.08.43 # and is probably easier to get hold of than the irivers 02.08.58 # it seems fantastic so far 02.09.09 # but it is the hour of bedsleep, so no more tinkering 02.10.43 # gigabeat.ca has music. 02.11.16 # only the F and X-series are supported. don;t get an S-series 02.11.22 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54849DF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.11.59 Quit funky ("leaving") 02.14.42 Quit mattzz ("Leaving") 02.15.17 Quit directhex ("Leaving") 02.18.25 # bedtime 02.20.05 # jhMikeS: great find! 02.22.44 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 02.22.55 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.23.24 # :) and time for sleep 02.23.51 Part pixelma 02.24.05 Part jhMikeS 02.27.33 Part Digital 02.34.27 Part TrueJournals 02.34.52 Quit Jakeworld ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.35.01 Join webguest72 [0] (i=519e3536@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1bff3dc16d1d6692) 02.35.47 Quit webguest72 (Client Quit) 02.37.07 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 02.37.16 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.37.42 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.38.09 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 02.45.50 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.51.02 Quit zylche (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.51.36 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 02.51.45 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.52.23 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.52.57 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.01.37 Quit midkay_ ("Leaving") 03.01.41 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 03.04.10 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.06.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.44 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 03.13.08 Quit Soul-Slayer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.15.56 Join Jakeworld [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-68f075de0d1cba7f) 03.17.30 Quit Jakeworld (Client Quit) 03.18.20 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.22.59 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 03.23.10 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.33.40 Join Jakeworld [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1ce8559d0e6ca87c) 03.37.15 Quit rp- () 03.38.37 Join phrozen77_ [0] (n=phrozen7@pD9EC7624.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.39.23 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 03.45.19 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 03.46.38 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 03.46.40 Quit phrozen77 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.46.49 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.50.57 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.53.23 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.54.30 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@cpe-65-24-165-152.columbus.res.rr.com) 04.07.57 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 04.08.00 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@cpe-65-24-165-152.columbus.res.rr.com) 04.11.43 Join dewdude_ [0] (i=dewdude@pool-71-120-0-23.washdc.east.verizon.net) 04.12.30 Quit daurnimator (Connection timed out) 04.13.59 Quit dewdude (Nick collision from services.) 04.14.03 Nick dewdude_ is now known as dewdude (i=dewdude@pool-71-120-0-23.washdc.east.verizon.net) 04.15.58 Quit Jakeworld ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.16.03 Join asdoe [0] (n=deejay@24.91.55.67) 04.17.34 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 04.19.59 Quit asdoe (Client Quit) 04.22.21 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 04.22.30 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 04.25.55 Join BigMac [0] (n=moyers_m@71.234.95.131) 04.26.23 # Fasmale: You afk? 04.30.47 # Yep 04.30.50 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 04.30.59 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 04.37.52 Part BigMac 04.40.01 Part TrueJournals 04.42.41 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.201.140) 04.48.45 Join konam [0] (n=konam__@9stb68.codetel.net.do) 04.50.05 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.50.25 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 04.50.37 # hi a todos 04.50.53 # hi everyone, excuse me ^^U 05.00.39 # hi 05.01.30 # anybody familiar with firmware kickin around? i wonder how the interrupt vector is actually directed to a point in code 05.05.07 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 05.05.16 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.06.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.06.29 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.11.13 Join webguest37 [0] (i=473a4141@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-51ccb48f72f06c31) 05.11.28 # does anybody hear have rockbox on a 5.5g ipod with loader2? 05.11.49 # webguest37: loader2 isnt supported here 05.13.52 Join Guest52768 [0] (n=lini@62.204.144.237) 05.15.54 # but is it possible is all I want to know 05.18.02 # 30 gig, yes 05.22.41 Part hcs 05.23.26 # now I have another question, what exactly is the .ipod file do 05.23.26 # ? 05.23.33 # does* 05.24.29 Join hcs [0] (n=hcs@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 05.28.24 # that is the firmware 05.29.29 Quit lini (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.32.26 # ok thanks 05.32.28 Quit webguest37 ("CGI:IRC") 05.32.41 Join CpuWhiz [0] (n=eric@cpe-66-87-222-218.co.sprintbbd.net) 05.37.07 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 05.37.16 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.53.10 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@cpe-65-24-165-152.columbus.res.rr.com) 05.53.12 Part konam ("Abandonando") 05.55.24 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 05.58.48 Join hcs [0] (n=hcs@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 05.59.08 Join Jakeworld [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cd8e4a23eb4f99b8) 06.00.21 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-64-123-191-146.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 06.00.25 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-64-123-191-146.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 06.04.09 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 06.04.18 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.05.44 Quit Jakeworld ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.06.29 Quit Guest52768 ("lini has no reason") 06.06.34 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 06.13.46 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 06.15.42 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Connection timed out) 06.32.27 Quit Rob2222 () 06.34.11 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 06.34.23 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.36.10 Quit BiptoN101 (Remote closed the connection) 06.36.45 Join BiptoN [0] (n=BiptoN@cpe-76-166-197-160.socal.res.rr.com) 06.38.04 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 06.40.11 Join BHSPitMonkey__ [0] (n=stephen@66.141.169.17) 06.40.23 Nick BHSPitMonkey__ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@66.141.169.17) 06.42.29 Quit BHSPitMonkey_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.42.33 Quit BHSPitLappy_ (Connection timed out) 06.43.39 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-169-17.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 06.46.05 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 06.51.49 Quit Brunellus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.55.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14EBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.59.21 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 07.00.28 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 07.05.21 Join webguest86 [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-122ff4ff76bf78ae) 07.06.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.20 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.08.29 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.10.41 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@unaffiliated/brunellus) 07.12.44 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzzz") 07.12.44 Quit webguest86 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.15.05 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.19.35 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.19.46 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.19.53 Part Llorean 07.35.06 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 07.35.21 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.35.30 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.46.17 Part Llorean 08.04.59 Quit crwl ("että") 08.05.43 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 08.06.33 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 08.06.44 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 08.07.39 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 08.09.58 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.18.03 # * foolsh wonders how to make "extern HWND hWnd" gcc compliant 08.19.15 Join ^gabe^ [0] (n=gabe@12.206.114.173) 08.21.40 # foolsh: assuming HWND is declared, it should probably just work 08.22.44 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 08.23.06 Quit ^gabe^ (Client Quit) 08.26.19 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.26.52 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.29.33 # no it's just "HWND hWnd;" in the main.c and "extern HWND hWnd;" in main.h I'll try "int HWND" 08.29.49 # thanks 08.30.17 # HWND isn't an int, it's a pointer 08.30.29 # It's a window handle 08.30.33 # ..in windows 08.30.43 Join ackbahr [0] (n=ackbahr@d83-180-93-31.cust.tele2.ch) 08.31.24 # foolsh: well, what's the gcc error? (if it's long, please use pastebin) 08.31.53 # assuming this is related to rockbox in some way, i guess 08.32.46 # I just dowoloaded rockbox for my Iriver h320, and I'm wondering if there's a way to make it the secondary boot choice instead of the first one? 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Why exactly do you *want* to load the firmware that takes longer to start up, and has worse battery life? 08.38.47 # foolsh: It actually requires a bootloader change. 08.39.30 Join Jerrry [0] (n=chatzill@ppp183.hk.centurytel.net) 08.39.37 # * foolsh thinks a setting for default boot firmware would be a nice feature 08.40.17 # foolsh: Rockbox's goal is to fully replace the original firmware. The bootloader is mostly designed to get you into Rockbox, quickly. An option would slow it down. 08.43.02 # I agree, I love the speed at which rockbox loads, but it would be nice not to have to tell ackbahr simply "no it can't be done easliy" 08.43.08 Quit CpuWhiz (Remote closed the connection) 08.43.38 # foolsh: ... Which is what you *have* to tell me, I suppose? 08.44.00 # ackbahr: Did you just ignore where I told you what you had to do? 08.44.51 Quit Jerrry ("good bye") 08.45.06 # Ah, sorry, I only saw the last post addressed to me, I'm cleaning the mess in my flat in parrallel.... Thank you very much Llorean ! 08.45.23 # ackbahr: I'm curious why you don't want to use Rockbox though. 08.45.31 # The only advantage of the retail firmware is WMA playback. 08.46.03 # Llorean: plus USB OTG 08.46.11 # amiconn: Yeah, but that's not a "primary use" situation. 08.46.32 # amiconn: I forgot that since I was in the mindset of "why someone would prefer to boot to the original most of the time" 08.46.37 # Llorean: And as an answer to your question : for appearance only, and for the fact that this could be configured easily, wouldn't it? 08.47.09 # Not easily 08.47.24 # ackbahr: You'd have to edit the bootloader, which is not the safest thing. It's easy to code, but not easy to guarantee the bootloader you upload will be safe. 08.47.30 # The bootloader should be fast, and it has to be very reliable 08.47.41 # Also, I'm surprised you'd sacrifice several hours of battery life for a graphical menu. 08.47.48 # amiconn: Yeah, but it'd be easy to just swap the boot order. 08.48.38 # I was referring to the configration part 08.48.39 # Well, I'm not the only user of this device either, and my wife prefers it shiny (well, you'll tell me I might as well teach *her* the alternate boot procedure..) 08.49.13 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15F14.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.49.29 # ackbahr: Teaching her to hold a button down is probably a lot safer than compiling a replacement bootloader. 08.50.12 # I agree... 08.50.18 Join Jakeworld [0] (i=cf3e9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-58c431b6aa12dc50) 08.50.26 # (well, although you don't know my wife!) 08.51.59 # * foolsh knows his wife very well and will compile his own boot loader *IF* she ever lets him within ten feet of hers 08.52.36 # Ah, that's another problem.... 08.53.44 # foolsh: On the iRivers H100/H300, a bad bootloader can permanently disable the device, which is why we never, ever recommend someone edit it. The ones we have for download have been tested on devices in the possession of someone who can recover them safely if it's bad. 08.54.20 # "Permanently" in the sense that you need special hardware to recover it. 08.55.06 # Llorean: Anyway don't worry, I'm a totally non-coding person, so there's not a single chance I'm going to edit anything! :) 08.55.39 # ahh I see.. so it flashes the *real* rom? 08.55.46 Quit Jakeworld ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.57.11 # Oooh, that'd be bad indeed 08.57.45 # foolsh: As opposed to a fake rom? I'm confused. 09.02.28 # Llorean: Yes thats it exactly.. confused many times over O_o 09.03.59 # * foolsh want's all remarks made by him deleted from the irc logs to keep all others safe from his foolishness :) 09.05.25 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.05.27 Join bun-bun [0] (n=bun@71-92-214-26.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) 09.06.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.16.12 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 09.19.57 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 09.20.07 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.20.23 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.21.16 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.21.33 # Thanks all, goodbye! 09.21.37 Quit ackbahr ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]") 09.22.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.29.48 Join lubiix908 [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 09.29.48 Quit kubiix (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.30.05 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.36.45 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.37.29 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.38.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.38.54 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.39.25 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.41.58 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.45.43 Join napoleon [0] (n=fluss@80.178.42.40.adsl.012.net.il) 09.46.53 # hey guys , anyone figured out how to set the keys right on Rockboy , sandisk E200 version? 09.47.41 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 09.48.10 # omfg make[1]: *** [install-target-libssp] Error 2 with rockboxdev.sh... lol same thing as if I did it manually 09.50.05 # hmm would this possibly be related with me running a generic linux kernel + headers on Kubuntu? 09.50.50 # napoleon: I use rec=menu; scrollup=select: scrolldown=start: power=b: select=a, and up down left right as up down left right... 09.51.05 # very playable 09.52.12 # decayedcell: possibly did you compile the headers for your custom kernal too? 09.52.50 # foolsh I just installed Kubuntu... and it installed generic as default 09.53.35 # but it says it wants libssp go look for that in synaptic and instal the -dev version i guess 09.53.51 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.55.04 # no the generic kernel is the only kernel ubuntu uses now no sse or i585 versions so no i thought you meant you conpiled your own kernel 09.55.17 # compiled* 09.56.24 # Well if I try to install another kernel it says its been surpassed by generic =/ 09.56.51 # did you install build-essential package? 09.57.30 # * decayedcell does that now 10.00.20 # you will have to run "sudo ./rockboxdev.sh" to install the compilers for ubuntu 10.04.30 Join redwood [0] (n=spammish@c-69-251-225-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 10.04.48 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.05.08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B954FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.08.44 # * foolsh reads the irc log from yesturday and abandons his port of fs#6524 from windows to sdl in favor of skyeye :) 10.09.49 Join decayedcell_ [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 10.09.52 # even with build-essential I get the same error 10.10.14 # * decayedcell_ tries downloading libssp-dev 10.10.54 # hmm no such lib 10.11.25 # Theres an experimental one... http://packages.debian.org/experimental/libdevel/libssp-dev 10.13.27 # but I use kubuntu and don't remember compiling anything to run ./rockboxdev.sh a few weeks ago when i *cleaned out* my install of windows 10.18.40 Quit decayedcell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.19.59 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ce683c7a23b59535) 10.23.55 Quit linuxstb__ ("Leaving") 10.27.35 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m204.net81-65-15.noos.fr) 10.28.54 Quit thegeek () 10.31.50 # * amiconn thinks the 'mode' parameter for mkdir() should also be removed for consistency. 10.31.59 Quit decayedcell_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.32.05 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 10.32.05 # It's completely ingnored on both target and sim 10.38.26 # As it's gone from creat(), I guess we should be consistent. 10.39.31 Quit Soap (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.39.49 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 10.44.06 Part Llorean 10.45.28 Quit Bjoern-Erik ("leaving") 10.46.03 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 10.48.28 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.49.43 Nick Paprica-Birthday is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@rockbox/developer/paprica) 10.54.14 Join decayedcell_ [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 10.54.44 # question does the update database function in rockbox purge old/invalid entries? 10.56.58 Join subson [0] (n=ju@82.67.68.29) 10.58.59 Join Wikiguest [0] (i=JavaUser@p57B35D6B.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.59.16 Quit Wikiguest (Client Quit) 10.59.56 # decayedcell_: I think it should. Are you having problems? 11.06.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.06.53 # Afaik the database only purges old/invalid entries when dircache is enabled. Otherwise it only adds entries; for cleanup you'd need to do a full rebuild instead of an update 11.09.44 Join bluebrother [0] (i=36AAPg7V@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 11.13.04 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 11.15.40 Quit decayedcell_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.15.52 # amiconn: Have you done any more work on ipod usb/charger detection? 11.16.20 # Not yet 11.16.58 # I will probably check something regarding firewire, as I now know about one pc with a 6-pin firewire socket 11.17.20 # I had some success with Barry's usb debug plugin, so I'm trying again this morning. 11.17.43 # Checking the diff between 4-pin and 6-pin firewire should also tell me how to detect a pure firewire charger, even though I don't have one 11.18.35 # eh. 11.18.41 # afaik 4pin firewire does not have a power line 11.18.46 # yup 11.18.48 # if that's what you want 11.18.48 # :P 11.19.09 # I noticed that when I got my 4G's battery dead in 30 minutes, trying to transfer some stuff from my laptop 11.19.29 # I want to make rockbox recognise firewire, and firewire power - independently 11.19.37 # ah ok 11.19.55 # can't you just read the voltage on the power pins? 11.20.02 # it can be done from diagnostic mode 11.20.12 # DataGhost: How is your IPL 5.5g support going? I saw your loader2 changes were committed, any progress with the kernel? 11.20.18 # no linuxstb 11.20.21 # I had exams 11.20.29 # and in order to learn for them, I got a job :) 11.20.31 # DataGhost: Sure, if you hand me a PP datasheet... 11.20.33 # 2pm-12am job 11.20.53 # The 'just reading' is the thing to figure out... 11.20.58 # so. there hasn't been much progress... I'll resume working on the kernel next week :) 11.21.02 # ah heh amiconn 11.21.04 # Besides, mini2g diagnostic doesn't show voltages 11.21.11 # oh 11.21.12 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.21.19 # evening all 11.21.25 # morning 11.21.37 # (but mini2g has full firewire support, unlige the video) 11.21.53 # and it's the video that's reading out voltages :P 11.21.57 # Works nicely in WinXP, just need to reboot manually into diskmode atm 11.22.20 # But my laptop only has 4-pin so no charging 11.23.02 # Not a big problem on the mini, the microdrive isn't such a big power sucker as an 1.8" hdd 11.24.32 # well, the biggest problem with that stupid firewire is also that the harddrive doesn't spin down when idle 11.24.42 # so that's quite the drain :) 11.24.45 Join decayedcell_ [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 11.25.55 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.27.10 Quit Paprica (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.30.40 # amiconn how do I full rebuild? Initialise should do? 11.31.52 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.202) 11.33.02 # decayedcell: yes 11.33.26 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 11.34.14 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 11.34.44 Quit decayedcell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.34.47 # anybody know how to make Kubuntu recognise .rockbox folder on iPod? or any folder with '.' at the start of the name? 11.35.27 # unhide hidden files 11.35.53 # f11 in konquerer 11.36.19 # F11 makes it fullscreen =/ 11.36.40 # f10? 11.36.43 # nvm did it the manual point and click way 11.36.48 # :) 11.38.44 # Hey there Jd 11.40.17 # hey 11.40.19 # wassup? 11.42.27 # mmm not much, quiet night at home 11.43.03 Join aliask_ [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.43.03 Quit aliask (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.43.05 Nick aliask_ is now known as aliask (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.44.48 Join directhex [0] (n=directhe@bb-87-82-2-184.ukonline.co.uk) 11.47.18 Nick w1ll14m|away is now known as w1ll14m (n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl) 11.51.32 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 11.51.37 # oh noes... backlight in Doom turns off when I run a WAD 11.52.38 # anybody else have this problem with 5/5.5G iPod build? only patch I have is cop 11.54.40 Join JVD [0] (i=4a79c750@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-957c5183b56e84e9) 11.55.14 # Just checking if this IRC webclient works on Mozilla and my comp 11.55.24 # can anybody read that 11.55.32 # ah jeez i'm talking to myself 11.57.30 # nobody here but us zombies. braaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnssssssssss 11.57.30 Quit JVD (Client Quit) 11.59.47 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 12.00.49 Quit decayedcell_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.04.59 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 12.09.27 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.12.12 Quit decayedcell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.15.21 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@wbs-196-2-115-96.wbs.co.za) 12.17.55 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 12.21.13 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.230.92) 12.24.37 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.30.57 # amiconn: Can you try this plugin on your mini? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb_detect.c I think you'll need to apply Barry's usb patch first. 12.31.18 # It seems to be working fine on both my Color and Video - correctly detecting USB charger and PC connections. 12.32.08 # (i don't have a wall charger) 12.32.12 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.32.33 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.33.22 # mikachu: i have a Firewire charger :) damn that charges fast :) 12.34.11 Quit foolsh (Remote closed the connection) 12.34.41 # but i will try the patch for recognizing pc and power connections ;) 12.35.27 # It shouldn't detect a firewire charger - it's just for distinguishing different types of USB connections. 12.36.27 # linuxstb: i know, firefire always charges only on my 5g, but i own an usb charger and backup battery aswell.. they both use USB 12.36.45 Quit thegeek () 12.37.08 # w1ll14m: OK. Do you know the USB patch you need to apply to use that plugin? 12.37.34 # does the database not support unicode? 12.37.37 # linuxstb usb button press ?? 12.37.43 # directhex: it should 12.38.04 # w1ll14m: This one - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6494 12.38.10 Quit napoleon () 12.38.16 # let mee check 12.38.20 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@e177175232.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.38.25 # usb_debug_plugin_v3.patch 12.38.26 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 12.38.36 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.38.38 # directhex I'm pretty sure it doe 12.38.39 # s 12.38.48 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B94F44.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.39.13 # your font needs to support Unicode to get Rockbox to display the unicode of course :p 12.39.41 # directhex: do the tags show up fine when you play the songs? 12.39.51 # actually, looks like the unicode in the file isn't valid. stupid mp3. 12.39.58 # w1ll14m: Apply that patch, then copy usb_detect.c to apps/plugins and add it to apps/plugins/SOURCES. Then run the plugin and try attaching your ipod to your PC via usb and to your usb charger. 12.41.02 # directhex: not all tags are stored in unicode.. Maybe you need to set another codepage 12.41.02 # linux, i will try... but i have great pain on my right thumb so i can only use my left hand :\ 12.42.46 # linuxstb: checking out new svn version 12.43.49 Nick phrozen77_ is now known as phrozen77 (n=phrozen7@pD9EC7624.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.43.50 Join napoleon [0] (n=fluss@80.178.42.40.adsl.012.net.il) 12.45.33 # decayedcell, any guesses which fonts support unicode, then? 12.46.02 # There's a wiki page with that info I think. 12.46.34 # I know in the flyspray someone has done a size 14 uming + glyphs + chinese and other stuff 12.46.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeFonts 12.48.43 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 12.48.55 # looks like it was both a font issue and a tag issue 12.49.03 # except the font my WPS uses isn't unicodey :/ 12.49.55 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@170.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) 12.49.57 # is there a way to enlarge the text in rockbox? the display is really small 12.50.25 # Change to a larger font. 12.50.55 # the problem with that may be that the font in your WPS may be misaligned because of the different size 12.51.24 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.51.31 # where do i find fonts? 12.51.57 # it should be somewhere in General Settings 12.52.13 # Did you install the fonts zip file when you installed Rockbox? The install instructions point you to them. 12.52.17 # decayedcell, precisely. looks like i need to fix the font file myself :x 12.52.30 # decayedcell, yet more hacking on this WPS. ho hum 12.53.03 # yeah its annoying when you want 'B' font but 'X' WPS isn't aligned for it *sigh* 12.53.15 # ah ok , so i probably need this font file cause i cant eccess the font directory in general settings 12.53.27 # linuxstb: compiling new test version 12.54.41 # napoleon its in General Settings | Display | Browse Fonts if you're changing fonts on the device itself 12.55.30 # "Font is Segoe UI 12 converted for Rockbox, much cleaned up." - i don't like the "much cleaned up" bit, it makes me think a quick makefont won't work 12.55.50 # Segoe UI... Windows Vista :p 13.02.10 Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=unknown@165.80-202-111.nextgentel.com) 13.03.06 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965BCC.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.03.42 # linuxstb: patch works, on charger usb_detect says usb --> charger and on pc connect it says usb --> pc 13.05.53 # Anybody willing to test Conway's Game of Life plugin? 13.06.00 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 13.06.15 # linuxstb: windows sees the device as unknown device and rockbox doesn't reboot to diskmode 13.06.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.06.27 # hmm. Maybe converting the deja vu fonts for Rockbox would be an idea 13.06.34 # but seems like we are heeding the right way :) 13.07.41 # heading* 13.09.25 # w1ll14m: Yes, the plugin doesn't reboot disk mode - it's just for testing the detection. 13.09.33 Quit mattzz ("Leaving") 13.10.43 # linuxstb: but in normal mode 13.11.26 # it gives me the usb logo, then windows finds an unknown device and when i unplug usb it go's back to rockbox 13.11.39 Join barrywardel1 [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.185.243) 13.11.41 # Ignore that. 13.11.51 # The patch itself disables rebooting. 13.12.39 # linuxstb:ok nice, i hate it when rockbox reboots :) 13.17.14 Quit decayedcell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.18.52 Join Paprica-Birthday [0] (i=Paprica@84.228.170.15) 13.18.56 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@ppp93-155.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net) 13.19.33 # mattzz: which FS number is Game of Life 13.21.06 # nvm found it... 13.23.33 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.27.24 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 13.30.56 Quit anathema (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.35.48 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.36.10 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 13.36.12 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.37.11 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host161-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.41.57 Quit decayedcell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.45.49 Join Guest52768 [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 13.49.22 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 13.54.36 # w1ll14m: Still around? 13.54.39 # yes 13.55.29 # I think I've got a working USB detection patch - can you test? 13.55.38 # of course 13.55.57 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb_detect.diff 13.56.03 # That should be applied against a clean SVN. 13.56.19 # ok getting a clean svn now 13.59.55 Part redwood 14.00.09 # BTW, there's no need to apply patch #6494 - everything that's needed is in my patch. 14.00.24 # linux: that was what i was thining :) 14.01.34 # linuxstb:i think i don't have to change my bootloader because it's svn and svn works good with my bootloade, or do you think different ? 14.01.56 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 14.03.23 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.200.213) 14.03.48 Quit lini (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.04.06 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-224-221.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.04.20 # linuxstb: patch goes well on svn, no errors 14.06.27 # linuxstb: I had an alternative way of detecting the difference between charger brick and usb. you check bit 9 of UOG_OTGSC IIRC. That should check if the bus voltage goes above 4.4V. I could only get it to work on my H10 for some reason though, even though I was using the iPod charger. 14.06.54 # i guess it's probably related to the slow charging on the iPods in Rockbox 14.07.21 # it didn't work on the color ipod I tried it on 14.08.28 # * w1ll14m thinks about installing a special rockbox delopment machine 14.15.30 Join tHe_coincidEnce [0] (i=41bf179f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-07bf0206f3525ae5) 14.16.35 # linuxstb: with patch installed it does not reboot when connecting external battery neither indicates a charge, when connected to usb charger it's the same it won't reboot and does not indicate it's charging 14.16.51 # when usb connected to pc it reboots as it would without patch 14.19.43 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 14.22.17 # barrywardel1: do you know anything about system interrupts on the sansa? i can't seem to figure out what i want to know 14.23.04 # i know a bit about them. what do you want to know? 14.27.58 Quit shnee ("Konversation terminated!") 14.28.44 # how they're serviced mainly. how the compiler knows which isr serves which interrupt 14.30.05 # the handlers are all set in firmware/target/arm/crt0-pp.S 14.30.43 # irq_handler in system.c serves most normal interrupts 14.31.30 # w1ll14m: Yes, I get no charging indicator either. But apart from that it's working as it should? Does WIndows detect your ipod OK when it reboots? 14.31.46 # thanks barrywardel1...just in time too as i have to leave :) 14.31.58 # actually, it's irq in system.c 14.32.16 # that handles everything? 14.33.26 # barrywardel1: What would your detection method do attached to a non-powered USB port? 14.33.42 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493066B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.34.16 # nixphoeni: there's also fiq and UIE 14.34.20 # linuxstb: ofcourse when it reboots into diskmode windows recognizes it.... 14.34.39 # also linux 14.35.03 # linuxstb: i haven't tested that. i think it would go into USB mode 14.35.24 Join Abcminiuser [0] (n=DPC@ppp36FB.dsl.pacific.net.au) 14.35.24 # yes diskmode works fine 14.35.28 # barrywardel1: Can you test my patch on your H10? 14.35.36 # yeah, ok 14.35.42 Part pixelma 14.35.55 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 14.36.04 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.36.57 # hmmm strange, it just rebooted to diskmode when i connected usb it was after rebooting from diskmode back to rockbox 14.37.03 # let me try to redo it's situation,..... 14.37.48 # You mean you ejected it from WIndows, it rebooted, and then Rockbox detected USB again and went back into disk mode? 14.37.56 # yes 14.38.01 # Didn't it do that before? 14.38.13 # hmmm let me check again.... 14.38.40 # I'm not sure we can avoid that until Rockbox gets its own disk mode. 14.38.46 # also i disconnected usb 14.38.49 # when rebooting 14.38.56 # damn .... battery is empty :| 14.39.18 # let me attach my firewire charger... 14.42.43 # barrywardel1: Do you think my patch is sensible? I've no idea what the setup and run functions are doing.... 14.43.21 # i can't reproduce the error... 14.43.26 Join shnee [0] (n=CurtyD13@cblmdm72-241-107-50.buckeyecom.net) 14.43.29 # now it's working fine 14.44.13 Quit tHe_coincidEnce ("CGI:IRC") 14.44.15 # will it charge even if the ui say's it's not ? 14.45.05 Quit Abcminiuser ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 14.45.14 # I don't know - can you try it and let me know? 14.45.23 # w1ll14m, if the battery is dead enough..often times the ipod's hardware will kick it into emergency charge mode 14.46.03 # linuxstb: it seems quite reasonable. we should also probably run dr_controller_stop() on disconnect too 14.46.15 # i have been doing quite a bit of work on the usb support 14.46.28 # but it's quite confusing 14.47.23 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m145.net195-132-203.noos.fr) 14.48.55 # linuxstb:ok charging ipod now via firewire 14.49.17 # now my 5g's ui says it's charging ;) 14.51.13 # jhMikeS: yoes? 14.51.26 # but if this succeeds we probaply don't have to use the usb button press patch 14.51.36 # preglow: good timing. just gave a look at the IRC 14.51.50 # oh, i felt that 14.52.01 # but anywho 14.52.03 # huh? 14.52.13 # was that the only line of code needed? 14.52.19 # to get rid of the clicking 14.52.39 # no...not at all 14.53.27 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@e177175232.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.53.49 # It clicks testing with the pitchscreen. Was wondering about using some more open ended approach with no need to calculate that. 14.54.33 # that would be niceness indeed 14.56.26 # linuxstb:it seems battery is not charging now, i will need further testing 14.57.33 # convert_to_internal mocks me...and btw I was just saying that I happened to glance at IRC right at the moment you pinged me 14.59.08 # knwo 14.59.12 # know <- 14.59.17 # i'm just messing around 14.59.24 # hehe...ok 15.01.17 # the sim seems really buggy to me right now 15.01.19 # hrmph 15.03.49 Quit Brunellus ("Ex-Chat") 15.06.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.08.16 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 15.08.16 Quit FOAD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.10.25 Join brainiac_ghost [0] (n=brainiac@evangilion.brainiacghost.co.uk) 15.11.24 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 15.11.30 # w1ll14m: I've connected my ipod Color to the AC charger, and although there is no charging symbol, the battery appears to be charging. 15.12.03 # (USB AC charger) 15.14.13 Quit idnar (Operation timed out) 15.14.32 # linuxstb: there was a guy in here yesterday that said he couldn't get the color to boot unless he disabled freq scaling 15.14.35 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.14.43 Quit juxtap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.14.44 # is that the status for all colors? 15.16.16 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 15.18.55 Quit hcs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.21.19 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 15.25.53 # preglow: and there is a guy who reported that rockbox produces only faint hisses instead of music on his Gigabeat 15.26.18 # but looking at his previous forum posts I think he's just doing something wrong 15.27.57 # haha 15.28.10 # can't say i've ever heard anything like faint hisses 15.28.20 # outright noise bursts, yes, but never anything i'd call faint :) 15.28.25 # preglow: but this is strange: "the sound of the game of doom works, but only in one earphone, but i still cant hear d music and the sound of the videos" 15.29.24 # perhaps it's a problem with the i2c driver.. 15.30.25 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 15.30.39 Part kaaloo 15.30.50 # hmm 15.30.56 # well, i wouldn't know anything about that 15.31.11 # but why i2c? might as well be i2s, unless you don't use that 15.32.42 # yes, we do use it 15.32.47 # preglow: Not normal as such, but I've experienced it occasionally on my Color. It seems to be random in terms of some builds working, and some not. 15.33.17 Quit toer ("jee") 15.33.50 # well my gigabeat works in a rather sexy manner 15.35.37 Join msteiner [0] (i=mirko@p54A71B9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.35.41 # hello :) 15.35.45 # short question 15.36.17 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 15.36.21 # there is no support for the 2nd gen of ipod nano... so is this a definitly term? 15.36.26 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 15.36.53 # i don't get what you mean, but no, you can't expect support for that for a long time, i think 15.36.58 # we know nothing about the hardware 15.37.16 Quit brainiac_ghost ("Leaving") 15.37.16 # nor do we know anything about how to decrypt the firmware 15.37.28 # ah okay 15.37.38 # everything about it is very secret, it seem 15.37.39 # s 15.38.02 # so thats all i want to know, if this is just a "we don't have time to develop" or more a "this is fucking hardware, and we need a lot of time to figure out how to install rockbox on it" 15.38.27 # :) 15.38.40 # the last, definitely 15.38.44 # we'd love to support it 15.38.45 # it's both probably 15.38.48 # AND the encrypted firmware 15.38.50 # : 15.38.51 # :P 15.39.04 # so that makes three 15.39.06 # i'd probably jump on the nano 2g bandwagon immediately if i could port rockbox to it 15.39.09 # no questions asked 15.39.10 # yeah i run rockbox for many yeas on my archos jukebox recorder, it works fine 15.39.30 # so i thought i can use it also on the ipod nano 2nd gen 15.40.17 # but alas! 15.40.18 # no suck luck 15.40.44 # so thanks for the fast response :) 15.40.47 # np 15.40.49 Part msteiner ("bye") 15.41.19 # linuxstb: my ipod haven't powered off yet and the battery haven't run out yet, so it seems like it's charging or something like that :) 15.43.12 # Try changing the battery display to numeric - I think it's in something like Display -> status bar 15.43.35 # Connecting to my AC USB charger, both my Color and VIdeo seem to charge. 15.44.05 # there's a nice graph thing somewhere in the debug menu too 15.44.12 # linuxstb: you anywhere with av300 port? 15.45.00 # Progressing slowly, but I've also got lots of half-finished Rockbox things I want to finish as well. 15.46.48 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.47.44 # linuxstb: ipod@ 47% battery, i will if it's charging.... is it possible that it's charging slower then normal with this patch ? 15.48.00 # i may have some opts for the eq here, woot 15.48.06 # linuxstb: now it says 50% 15.48.07 # it's a wonder i didn't think about this before 15.48.14 # preglow: what kind of opts? 15.48.29 # go faster opts i assume? 15.48.29 # making it faster 15.48.39 # getting rid of four 64 bit divisions 15.48.41 # which i think are very slow 15.48.54 # preglow: i love you (if it works) 15.49.00 # lol 15.49.12 # i do the divide by a0 all the time, and it's pointless, better to calculate 1/a0 and just multiply by that 15.49.31 # multiplies, even 64 bit ones, are infinitely faster than the 64 bit divs 15.49.35 # doesn't the compiler pick up stuff like that? 15.49.43 # no, it's not exact 15.49.55 # who are the primary developers of the gigabeat port? 15.50.01 # it does if you use floating point and -ffast-math, but i don't think it does for non-trivial integer math 15.50.04 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848E13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.50.06 # ah 15.50.36 # preglow: can you make a patch ? 15.50.55 # you could just wait 5 minutes too 15.51.03 # w1ll14m: gotta code it first, and if it works, i'll just commit it, heh 15.52.03 # preglow: i thought maybe you allready did some tests... but i was wrong :) let me know if you need a tester :) 15.54.04 # this really shouldn't break anything, and i am testing to see whether the results are more or less the same, but sure 15.54.10 # if i ever need one i'll call :) 15.54.15 # :) 15.54.44 # lol 15.54.48 # If my calculations are correct 15.54.54 # I've got 26 hours of video on my 5.5G iPod 15.54.59 # battery time 15.55.04 # :o 15.55.06 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 15.55.06 # :| 15.55.06 # 80 hours of music 15.55.19 # I built a battery pack with 4x AA rechargable batteries 15.55.25 # heh 15.55.25 # lol 15.55.27 # that'll give me 1800mAh at 4.8V 15.55.37 # I can plug in my usb cable and it'll do a nice more-or-less 5Vusb 15.56.10 # i have a external battery that should be 2700 mAh 15.56.18 # for ipod's 15.56.18 # seeing that the 5.5G 80GB battery is 3.7V 600mAh, not calculating the 'excess' 1.1 volts from my external battery pack, I get 1800 + 600 mAh 15.56.27 # that should compensate for the loss afaik 15.56.32 # and yes I can get more expensive batteries :P 15.56.47 # dataghost: sounds good ;) 15.56.47 # I can even add another battery pack on the other side of the PCB :P 15.56.51 # yeah :) 15.57.13 # hm, however... If I want to do it nicely I'd have to add some diodes 15.57.13 # what precisely happens to paypal donations - how are they reallocated from Bjorn Stenberg's paypal account? 15.57.23 # dataghost: get yourself a good 12v car battery :) 15.57.23 # which will cause a voltage drop (when using 2 battery packs in parallel) 15.57.33 # oh did I mention that mine is portable? :P 15.57.42 # dataghost: hehehehe 15.58.19 # if you are strong.... you could just get one of those ;) it's a training aswell!! 15.58.22 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 15.58.30 # and fits in my pocket 15.58.30 # :P 15.58.41 # dataghost: ah that's it... mine won't.... 15.58.52 # DataGhost: then your idea is better.... 15.59.03 # ;) 15.59.03 # don't want a car battery - want a deep-cycle marine battery. 15.59.14 # oh yeah 15.59.18 # I've got a couple of those 15.59.19 # soap: how the heck are you going to take that on with you ? 15.59.24 # 500Ah Soap_ :P 15.59.31 # but those aren't portable _AT ALL_ 15.59.34 # million of hours 15.59.42 # w1ll14m: I'm not the one who brought up car batteries. 15.59.43 # sweet god, the eq adjustment screen really, really needs some acceleration 15.59.47 # one of them 100Ah units already has carrying straps on it 15.59.55 # soap: hehehe 15.59.57 # I don't even want to know what it would be like with 5 :P 16.00.05 # preglow: Very much so. 16.00.29 # what was the diff command again ? 16.00.47 # just 'diff' 16.00.55 # or am I missing something? :P 16.01.01 # then you get the > and < things.... 16.01.20 Quit napoleon () 16.01.59 # linuxstb: your patch works on H10 too:) 16.02.15 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.02.35 # linuxstb: I think it should report charger inserted though 16.04.39 # linuxstb:my ipod charges as wel... confirmed 16.06.37 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 16.06.50 # http://de.dataghost.com/IMG_7741.jpg 16.06.56 # there. very simple yet so effective :) 16.07.25 # DataGhost: whahaha 16.07.33 # DataGhost:looks good 16.07.36 # :) 16.07.40 # dsp paradoxes...hrm. playback expects data out every time it calls dsp_process and that's not possible. imagine trying to resample passing one sample at a time like that. 16.07.49 # now to get the on-the-box specifications 16.07.58 # a.k.a. now to make the calculations without counting any charging losses etc :P 16.08.11 # lol it was diff -u file1 file2 16.08.17 # 2220 mWh = standard battery 16.08.27 # mAh 16.08.29 # 8640 mWh = my external battery 16.08.31 # no mWh 16.08.35 # 600 mAh 16.08.50 # i'm calculating with different voltages here :P 16.08.59 # do you have undervoltage protection to prevent cell reversal? ;) 16.09.12 # I hope Apple thought of that :P 16.09.21 # I mean in your four cell pack. 16.09.33 # no :) so I hope Apple thought of that :P 16.09.51 # that would give me 29 hours of video 16.10.10 # 97 hours of music 16.10.12 # fair enough 16.10.50 # but using a video causes when charging via usb your battery just is just dying slower.... 16.10.54 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848E13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.11.13 # that's what i found out using my battery pack 16.11.15 # which battery? 16.11.17 # ipod 16.11.19 # ipod's 16.11.22 # oh 16.11.24 # is it that bad? 16.11.38 # let's hope Apple thought of _that_ ;) 16.11.49 # because I did notice that transferring 20 GB of music to a near-empty iPod 80GB will kill the battery before the transfer is done 16.11.56 # no, not direct, but it's just your ipod will last a little longer but eventuely will die when using exterolan power and playing at the same time 16.11.57 # but the disk is spinning all the time then 16.12.00 # not with videos 16.12.12 # backlight pulls a lot of juice. 16.12.15 # even with music 16.13.00 # if you could get a 30 volts on a little stronger battery, your ipod charges faster and can keep up with the usage 16.13.06 # and anyway, I won't be watching videos for 24-29 hours straight anyway :P 16.13.11 # you would have to use firewire 16.13.19 # does firewire allow up to 30? :o 16.13.34 # I always thought why it said 5-30V... I thought that was just a safety margin :P 16.13.37 # don't know exactly... but back of ipod says 5-30 volts 16.13.44 # hhahaha 16.13.55 # lol 16.14.07 # i don't know exactly firewire's voltage, ive read somewhere it was 30 volts, but i thought it was 12 16.14.14 # If you put in 30, I would have to believe 18 of those volts would get tossed by the regulator at a severe level of heat. 16.14.22 # so i'm confused about that ;) 16.14.36 # FireWire can ... blah blah blah ... Its six-wire cable is more flexible than most Parallel SCSI cables and can supply up to 45 watts of power per port at up to 30 volts 16.14.38 # hmm 16.14.58 # ahh, it can do 30. Dang. 16.15.00 # but scsi isn't portable at all :) 16.15.02 # can. and up to 16.15.07 # so I guess that's device-regulated 16.15.08 # :P 16.15.20 # but my ipod charges 5 times as fast then usb 16.15.25 # when using firewire 16.15.27 # as source 16.15.30 # my firewire charger says: output 12V 67A 16.15.35 # but I guess the . in 67 is faded 16.15.37 # I don't see it 16.15.45 # then it's 12 volt 16.15.47 # haha, 67A would be something 16.15.47 # :) 16.15.47 # Firewire can transfer up to 2A 16.15.51 # ooooh 16.15.53 # .67A 16.15.53 # :D 16.15.56 Quit Mouser_X (Connection timed out) 16.16.13 # at up to 30V (or something similar) 16.16.23 # while USB can only provide up to 500mA 16.16.24 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 16.16.26 # no 16.16.29 # if you could get some battery's running at 12 volt... your ipod will charge fast and can keepupwith the usage 16.16.29 # at 30V it can do 1,5A 16.16.38 # 'up to 45 watts' ^_^ 16.16.59 # yeah but that would require 10 batteries 16.17.03 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-236-163.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 16.17.06 # it's been quite a while since I worked with firewire. At "usual" voltages like 12V it can do 2A :) 16.17.09 # my battery was 50% when i took it from usb, 15 mins later is allready 80% 16.17.12 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@unaffiliated/brunellus) 16.17.12 # ok, that would clearly increase the capacity but also the size :P 16.17.21 # but yeah, I think there was a maximum power limit 16.17.22 # d00t 16.17.28 # I might just want to go with AAA instead then :P 16.17.29 # w00t 16.17.29 # hehehe 16.17.32 Part Brunellus ("Ex-Chat") 16.17.32 # DataGhost: there are other ways to increase the voltage. 16.17.34 # b00t 16.17.48 # soap: but at the cost of shorter battery life 16.17.59 # from the external battery ;) 16.18.05 # well, for now it's doing great imo 16.18.10 # wait! You mean when I increase voltage...amperage must go down? 16.18.23 # and still I don't see why watching videos would kill the battery faster 16.18.32 # I mean... it can do a full charge in 4 hours 16.18.35 # DataGhost: processing + backlight. 16.18.36 # and I can watch video for 6 hours 16.18.40 # Soap: you don't magically get energy from increasing the voltage, no :) 16.18.43 # if the power is the same, yes 16.18.55 # so that means it can charge faster than drain, when just watching video and not skipping like a lunatic 16.19.04 # for a few hours 16.19.04 # Power = Current * Voltage 16.19.04 # :P 16.19.06 # * Soap should have used the tag. 16.20.10 # maybe I should just look up the charger spec or something 16.20.58 # with a 600mAh battery that would mean 100mAh drain, with 4 hours charge that's 150mAh charge, so that equals around 50mAh positive 16.21.08 # hm. remove the last 3 h's 16.21.30 # you're talking in Apple Firmware where charging is significantly faster than it appears to be when charging in Rockbox. 16.21.39 # yes 16.21.42 # sorry. :P 16.21.46 # I have a 80GB 16.21.50 # then charge in diskmode 16.22.04 # tha's what i do when i don't have much time 16.22.10 # diskmode also appears to be slower than Apple Firmware. 16.22.18 # but the battery also appears to drain significantly faster in rockbox, right Soap? :P 16.22.25 # I think I see a connection there :) 16.22.27 # DataGhost: yes 16.22.40 # dataghost:true 16.22.41 # no, there is not the connection you appear to suspect. 16.22.43 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.23.01 # it must at least have something to do with it 16.23.03 # two seperate issues - not one. 16.23.07 Quit funky (Remote closed the connection) 16.23.10 # or rockbox can be sued for breaking a law 16.23.18 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 16.23.45 # rockbox charges slower AND it consumes more power. AND, not BECAUSE. 16.24.08 # it's also because but the effect is just applied twice then, I guess :P 16.25.30 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.26.06 # but I was planning a rundown test anyway 16.26.51 # I'll just hook up my iPod to my headphone amp without headphones plugged in 16.26.55 # so I can sleep tonight :P 16.29.28 Join redwood [0] (n=spammish@c-69-251-225-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 16.31.41 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 16.34.11 # w1ll14m: Can you go into the "View I/O ports" debug screen, and see what changes when you attach various things to your ipod? For my 5g, GPIO_L changes from A8 to B8 when it's attached to either my PC or the charger via USB. 16.34.16 # woot, from 494 bytes to 336 bytes, and i expect that'll be even better on arm 16.34.18 # not to mention the speed 16.34.26 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848E13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.34.27 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.35.01 # EQ optimisations? 16.35.11 Join brainiac_ghost [0] (n=brainiac@evangilion.brainiacghost.co.uk) 16.35.39 # linuxstb_: yeah, opts to the coef calculation functions 16.35.56 # linuxstb_: cutting out four out of five 64 bit divisions and using 32x32 bit muls instead 16.36.07 # which should be aeons faster 16.36.36 # Good to have you back :) 16.36.57 Part TrueJournals 16.37.21 # heh 16.37.26 # won't be back for long today 16.37.27 # Arm only? Or Coldfire too? 16.37.31 # Lear: both 16.37.38 # Goodie. :) 16.37.40 # but arm should feel it the most, having no hardware div at all 16.37.55 # Ouch, then I understand it costs a lot. 16.38.04 Quit Arathis (Client Quit) 16.39.09 # barrywardel1: At least on both my ipods (Color and Video), charger status can be detected via GPIO. 16.39.22 Quit directhex (Remote closed the connection) 16.39.40 # Although I'm not sure if it's telling me "charger inserted" or "battery charging". I think it's the former. 16.40.23 # hrm, i wonder why gcc uses umull for my signed muls 16.41.32 # But otoh, coefs aren't calculated often, are they? 16.42.04 # Lear: nope, but i just couldn't stand looking at the code :> 16.42.26 # gcc seems to do some severely fancy ass shit to my code 16.43.00 # ahh, right 16.43.18 # is there no way to tell gcc you expect a 64 bit result from muling two 32 bit numbers? 16.43.29 # we seem to just cast both args to 64 bit numbers 16.46.01 # haha, adding in the FRACMUL macro from dsp.c cut off a good deal, yes 16.48.35 Join mattzz_ [0] (n=mattzz@e177172166.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.50.59 Quit atsea-196 (Remote closed the connection) 16.51.17 Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p549306F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.55.51 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Jonno@89.241.52.215) 16.58.03 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.58.22 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 17.00.12 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.02.14 Join atsea-196 [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-baede58228830825) 17.02.14 Quit mattzz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.02.22 Nick mattzz_ is now known as mattzz (n=mattzz@e177172166.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.04.29 Quit idnar (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.04.29 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.04.29 Quit Soap (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.04.29 Quit redwood (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.04.29 Quit Galois (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.04.29 Quit andrewg_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.04.29 Quit scorche (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.06.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.06.51 Quit Criamos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.07.27 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.07.27 NJoin redwood [0] (n=spammish@c-69-251-225-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 17.08.48 Join toffe [0] (n=toffe@ppp-71-142-15-6.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 17.10.11 Join andrewg [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162082156.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 17.10.26 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54848E13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.11.27 Quit w1ll14m () 17.12.05 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 17.12.57 Join toer [0] (i=tore@skjeldal.com) 17.13.10 NJoin Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 17.13.26 Join Nuk3 [0] (n=chatzill@74-129-199-102.dhcp.insightbb.com) 17.14.44 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl) 17.14.45 NJoin idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 17.15.14 # * w1ll14m hates windows 17.17.04 NJoin andrewg_ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162082156.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 17.17.04 NJoin scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.17.11 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.17.35 Quit scorche (Operation timed out) 17.17.49 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.21.29 Quit andrewg_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.24.35 Quit Nuk3 ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 17.26.36 Quit darkless ("Leaving") 17.42.40 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.48.12 # linuxstb:does the gpio not just detect a usb connection of any kind? I mean updating charger_inserted() in power-ipod.c to use your new detecton code. 17.51.34 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 17.54.09 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 17.54.18 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 17.56.37 Join efyx [0] (n=efyx@fac34-5-82-239-138-213.fbx.proxad.net) 17.57.43 Join Clocks [0] (i=18e09721@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cdc05354bf249e02) 17.57.54 # Greetings 17.58.17 # Anyone here? 17.58.37 # greetings too clocks 17.58.50 # I'm here... 17.59.07 # I somewhat expected this to be a more happing place 17.59.15 # sometimes it is 17.59.17 # Clocks: This is a development and support channel 17.59.25 # depends on day of week, time of day, etc, etc 17.59.43 # Thats what i'm hoping for Llorean 18.00.05 # as it's here 18:00 somewhere else it's right now 23:00 ;) 18.00.12 # Good point 18.00.21 # but, whats up ? 18.00.23 # about 11 over here :-p 18.00.32 # lol 18.00.55 # ok, we've got the time issue sorted out. On with the question Clocks! :) 18.01.01 # lol 18.01.04 # gotta go 18.01.05 Part TrueJournals 18.01.17 # hehehe cya truejournals 18.01.18 # "What's up"? My iHP120 is not behaving properly and i'm desperate for advice 18.01.29 # sell it to Soap for $25 18.01.46 # clocks: ok, dhat do you mean by not behaving properly? 18.02.08 # dhat=what** 18.02.10 # Completely locked up responding to nothing but sitting there with a blank (yet backlit) screen 18.02.29 # is it when rockbox boots? 18.02.35 # Clocks: Use the reset hole in the bottom. 18.02.39 # I don't want to sell it ever I want to keep it till the end of time 18.03.09 # Ahh! reset! bottom? I'm looking right now 18.03.18 # * Soap wanders off muttering about his offers never working. ;) 18.03.33 # lol 18.03.38 # Clocks: It's a small hole. If you can use a blunted wooden toothpick. Be careful because the button in the hole is hard to find, and can be easy to break if you use something hard or sharp and just jab. Be gentle. 18.03.54 # Ahah! Your right Llorean. The wonders one finds when you take off the leather case for the first time in years *slaps his forehead* 18.04.07 # hehehe 18.04.15 # Clocks: I've tested many things that have frozen my iRiver, I'm quite familiar with that hole. :) 18.04.57 # Good because this was really distressing me. 18.05.15 # clocks: your player never crashed before ??? :| 18.05.29 # w1ll14m: It's really quite stable on the H100/H300 series 18.05.31 # Well i've never ran RockBox evore :) 18.05.45 # I'm kinda surprised he managed to crash it just by entering a menu. 18.06.08 # I'd be curious the whole circumstances around it, but from the forum posting it sounds like he's not wholly sure exactly what triggered it. 18.06.09 # You read my post. :) 18.06.17 # Llorean: that's nice then :) because i managed it to let my ipod 5g crash by just browsing for mp3 with OF 18.06.23 # Llorean: will the H100 series boot on external power only - or does it require a working battery? 18.06.48 # Soap: I'm actually not sure. I *think* that it will, but I'm not sure, I seem to recall reading someone tried it and it worked. 18.06.54 # Clocks: Believe it or not, I read all posts. 18.07.33 # Llorean: do you sleep?? because i don't have that much time :) 18.07.34 # Great thanks. I;m trying to find something the right shape right now. I thought i had a paper clip around here somewhere 18.07.56 # w1ll14m: Usually a whole day's posts only takes me about 30 minutes 18.08.04 # And your right I don't know how exactly I did it. I was just changing menues around and seeing what was where and it hung up 18.08.09 # w1ll14m: Not to mention I often read them from my phone while eating lunch, or such. 18.08.19 # Llorean: lol 18.09.00 # Llorean: i just eat my food very fast if something intresting is happening here :) 18.09.09 # Though with the rate we're growing, very soon I won't be able to keep up any more. 18.09.13 # and make very late nights ;) 18.09.31 # i can understand.... the more ports, the more users :) 18.09.43 # it's nice to see rockbox is growing.... 18.09.48 # Llorean: maybe you should delegate a bit :) 18.10.10 # Mikachu: I already do, that's why we have 'experts' and a few actual full mods. 18.10.23 # But I still like to try to at least *read* every post, even if it's just a quick skim and on to something else 18.10.24 # i know tons of pleople that just still don't have rockbox and would be better of with rockbox then OF 18.10.43 Part redwood 18.11.07 # * Clocks finds paperclip and gently presses reset button. Player shuts down. Gingerly pressing record and play Clocks turns on the player. The friendly and familiar iRiver boot screen greets him exactly as normal. Elation and joy warm Clocks from within as his universe is once again complete 18.11.13 Quit zylche ("-") 18.11.30 # Victory! 18.11.38 # hehehe 18.11.54 # Clocks: My first Rockbox player was the H120 18.12.02 # It's still my favorite 18.12.17 Join appelsap [0] (i=exis2@ti221110a080-11531.bb.online.no) 18.12.21 # rockbox + softeq + hardeq = supreme audio 18.12.26 Part appelsap 18.12.51 Join appelsap [0] (i=exis2@ti221110a080-11531.bb.online.no) 18.12.53 # Every time i think about "upgrading" I find that nothing else is really MORE enough of a player to justify spending any money at all 18.12.57 # w1ll14m: The soft EQ should be more than enough to compensate for any distortion caused by your headphones. 18.13.13 # Clocks: There are very few players that are "more" at all, compared to the H120. At least in terms of audio features. 18.13.37 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.14.21 # i like to Cowon iAudio if anything else. And have been pondering one. usb OTG allowing me to ad a 40 gig HD to my PSP is pretty sexy 18.16.49 # Anyway my extreme thanks for your help. I can't believe i didn't think simple enough to assume there would be a reset on it. Its obvious now but I've just had it inside its case for so long I've become somewhat unfamiliar whith what its surface looks like 18.17.06 # Llorean: i adjust everything above 120 hertz -11.0 db then i use 3 bands for the lower frequencies and compensate the high ones with HWeq, may sound stupid or to complicated but the audio sounds better to me that way 18.17.46 # w1ll14m: So, you're just one of those people who likes a ton of bass, irregardless of what the music's supposed to sound like, gotcha. 18.18.20 # Llorean: that's totaly correct, most of the times hardcore is supposed to have as many bass as there is possible 18.18.53 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.198.238) 18.19.05 # w1ll14m: You do realize they can master the music to have as much bass as they want, right? 18.20.11 # Llorean: true, but normal earbuds will sound badly with these eq settings i have, but these (normal a little lower bass then usual) sound better with a little more bass then normal 18.20.32 # that's why i love rockbox so much 18.20.43 # * Llorean shrugs 18.20.43 # hehe ;) 18.21.09 # Llorean:http://www.ecat.sony.co.jp/products/picture/large/MDR-EX90LP_JE.jpg 18.21.38 # Sennheiser all the way for me. 18.21.43 # hehe :) 18.22.17 # I have no idea if i spelled that right. 18.22.45 # i've used also some sennheiser, but these from sony fits better in my ears 18.23.40 # Farewell and thank you gentlemen. 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Just assigning single elements of an array. one at each time 19.57.10 # gcc will use it. 19.57.26 # ok, I will put the code on my server ;) 19.57.34 # i think you can use -ffreestanding too 19.57.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15F14.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.58.43 # You just need to declare something like: void *memcpy(void *dest, const void *src, size_t n) { return rb->memcpy(dest,src,n); } 19.58.53 # your code looks really really slow :) 19.59.45 # http://mattzz.dyndns.org/public_stuff/rocklife.c 20.00.02 # l. 256 20.00.46 # linuxstb_: worked! 20.00.49 # ah, that looks better 20.01.02 # I just do not understand, why the compiler wants to use memcpy 20.01.24 # Probably the initialisation of n at the start of the function. 20.01.33 # argh. 20.01.46 # Just replace it with a call to memset. 20.01.50 # rb->memset 20.01.54 # yup. 20.02.32 # Hey, thanks again :-) 20.02.46 # i don't know if it's a good idea to do a function call to check every cell 20.02.54 Join Roan [0] (n=JustJohn@pool-151-196-53-102.balt.east.verizon.net) 20.02.58 # (check_cell) 20.03.06 # In terms of stack pushing/popping? 20.03.17 # and speed improvement 20.03.26 # since you only use it in one place you could just declare it inline 20.03.34 # gcc may well inline it anyway - it's only called in one place. 20.04.01 # Although it should probably be declared static to enable gcc to do that. 20.04.30 # that's enabled at -O3 only says man gcc 20.04.40 # and all functions in a plugin should be static :) 20.04.47 # (except the entry point) 20.05.17 # i wrote a life for gba a long time ago 20.05.56 # I want to have it fast on my jbr. Sansa is fast enough :-P 20.06.13 # http://gentoo.pastebot.ath.cx/10 20.06.58 # nice 20.06.59 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-68-88-137-149.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.07.02 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-68-88-137-149.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.08.00 # i have no idea if it's faster or slower than your way, and of course if i wrote it today i wouldn't copy the whole board at the end :) 20.08.45 # hehe... 20.09.31 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fc3a0.pool.einsundeins.de) 20.11.24 # so best is to declare all functions of a plugin as static inline? 20.11.43 # no, just static 20.11.48 # but short functions = inline 20.11.52 # inline if they're only used once or are short 20.11.58 # OK, got it 20.12.31 # i don't know if it really matters if they're static after the elf stuff is stripped 20.12.49 Nick Roan is now known as justjohnny68 (n=JustJohn@pool-151-196-53-102.balt.east.verizon.net) 20.15.29 Quit shnee (Connection timed out) 20.16.08 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 20.16.42 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@cpe-65-24-165-152.columbus.res.rr.com) 20.20.36 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 20.20.41 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-68-88-137-149.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.21.19 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 20.25.22 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.26.52 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m204.net81-65-15.noos.fr) 20.29.29 Quit BHSPitLappy_ (Connection timed out) 20.33.43 Part Llorean 20.39.43 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 20.42.08 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 20.42.17 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 20.42.48 Quit justjohnny68 ("Leaving.") 20.45.57 Part TrueJournals 20.57.47 Join finn_ [0] (n=finn@rgnb-4db06940.pool.einsundeins.de) 20.58.40 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 20.58.51 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.02.24 Quit fasmaie (Remote closed the connection) 21.06.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.07.00 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 21.12.40 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 21.14.14 # the h210 has a colour depth of 4? 21.14.25 # (grey depth) 21.14.38 # s/h210/h120/ 21.16.22 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3f63a367bd2722fe) 21.17.42 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.18.23 # mattzz: it's 2bpp grayscale 21.18.33 # 4 shades of gray that is 21.18.59 # Genre9mp3: ok, thanks 21.22.56 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a88-114-143-192.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 21.27.27 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.15 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 21.28.26 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.28.43 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.35.59 Part finn_ ("Leaving") 21.43.03 Join rp- [0] (n=root@193.154.222.107) 21.48.07 Join Nihilanth [0] (n=zach@12-210-99-244.client.mchsi.com) 21.50.05 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 21.50.06 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.51.44 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@unaffiliated/brunellus) 21.51.44 Quit mathgl ("Quitte") 21.54.13 Join fasmaie [0] (n=fasmaie@64.241.37.140) 21.58.33 Quit fasmaie (Client Quit) 21.59.53 # hmm 22.00.23 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 22.00.34 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 22.00.40 # i dont know if it is worth something but i just found a site for iriver firmwares 22.00.44 # http://nyaochi.sakura.ne.jp/iriverupdate/ 22.01.41 # phrozen77: no h100/h300? 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