--- Log for 03.04.107 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 18 hours ago 00.00.23 Join The_One [0] (n=The_One@81-86-162-210.dsl.pipex.com) 00.00.26 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.01.02 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-35-192-230.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 00.01.02 Quit daniel2023 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.01.24 # how come games like frozen bubbles go so slow? 00.01.40 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.02.16 # corevette: because thew cpu speed varies when you are playing music, and the game doesn't change the cpu speed itself 00.02.22 Join ise [0] (n=ise@82.152.212.12) 00.02.38 # so how would i make it go faster? 00.02.53 # which player? 00.03.05 # jhulst: bit of a problem... Seems my Windows Vista I actually paid good money for has now been claimed as "Not Genuine" 00.03.06 # i like the fact that games are dependent on cpu speed... 00.03.18 Part posingaspopular ("Leaving") 00.03.58 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.04.10 # preglow: blubbles tries to draw a crazy amount of frames per second on some targets, iirc 40 on nano for example 00.05.08 # why aren't they coded to go for a target fps? 00.05.15 # that's how games are normally coded 00.05.23 # imagine how pc games would be if they were cpu speed dependent 00.05.48 # they used to be 00.05.57 # preglow: it does but when the codec eats the cpu it can't keep up and it doesn't boost 00.06.25 Quit amiconn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.25 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.06.25 Quit entheh (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.25 Quit nls (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.25 Quit Hadaka (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.25 Quit ludios 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Think of yo) 00.55.06 # A patch is here - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/mpegplayer-fix.diff 00.55.38 # This is the fix I mentioned to you (reducing the sleep between frames to something sensible), plus another a/v sync fix. 00.56.26 # thanks 00.57.05 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 00.58.40 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.08 # * jhMikeS was just messing with sync stuff. video output is perfectly smooth. 01.03.31 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.03.35 # jhMikeS: I will send you the broken lcd tomorrow, you can do what you want with it, I have more broken ones 01.03.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.13 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 01.04.21 # toffe82: sweet, I really can't wait to see if I can get something out of it 01.05.24 # jhMikeS even the 29.97 is smooth? 01.05.28 Join Zeph0x [0] (n=KrPD@84.94.40.196.cable.012.net.il) 01.05.53 # I have to get one of those. Will check in a sec. 01.06.25 # did you get the link from markun? 01.06.49 Nick Zeph0x is now known as KrPD (n=KrPD@84.94.40.196.cable.012.net.il) 01.07.03 Quit PaulJam (".") 01.07.31 # I got it but wasn't around...I tried them but they're down :( 01.07.53 Quit inversions (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.10.18 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.10.41 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 01.13.01 # linuxstb well , the green is still there 01.13.28 # overall quality is worse as well 01.13.42 # blocking is much more visible than before markun's commited fix 01.14.00 # so, artifacting, blocking and green 01.14.41 # yeah, I took the markun thing off and but color how it was originally 01.14.46 # *put 01.15.15 # i think he should revert it 01.15.52 # pearldiver: did you revert yours? I just looked at the diff and changed the code back to how it was. 01.16.20 # yes, 29.97 is just like a tv set :) 01.16.39 # jhMikeS you mean smooth? 01.16.41 # yes 01.16.42 # Alonea i didnt 01.16.52 # jhMikeS hmmm 01.16.54 # what lowpass filtering can do 01.17.41 # pearldiver: ^___^ I am picky and impatient. 01.18.21 # except you'll never get passed the tearing from the refresh rate difference to the lcd refresh 01.22.45 Join Moos [0] (i=Moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 01.22.52 # these videos are a little too heavy for the decoder though 01.23.28 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 01.23.43 Part ctaf 01.26.14 Join JerryLange [0] (n=JerryLan@ppp-64-91-85-240.cam.centurytel.net) 01.26.47 # I have a question about the new wiki page "ViewDrawing" 01.31.31 # just ask - someone who can answer might see the question... all I know though is that the page was set up by someone who's in here as sslashes 01.32.38 Part toffe82 01.36.08 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-78-217.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 01.36.16 # yeah i figured they were away. Ill come back later to ask about it but I can ask my question now. 01.36.44 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 01.37.03 # Wouldn't it be easiewr to use one tar file rather then have 5 folders and more sub folders? Although I do like the fact that everything is under ONE folder rather then how it is now 01.37.08 Join kramdra [0] (n=Kramdra@82-43-219-92.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.37.19 # ise: jhulst is on 01.37.53 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.44.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.44.41 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57b97861.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.47.11 # ise: That's too bad about Vista, did you get it figured out? 01.47.57 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 01.48.27 Part corevette ("Leaving") 01.50.29 # jhMikeS: Have you been working on mpegplayer? 01.51.12 # no i didnt, i'm going to get an old copy of XP and install rr0d 01.51.36 Part safetydan 01.51.46 # its a kernel mode debugger, so hopefully that might give us some information on whats happening when the firmware tries to update 01.52.00 # jhulst: sorry, i forgot to name you at the beginning 01.52.42 # linuxstb: a bit. just started messing with it. I'm trying out your patch in conjunction with my stuff. 01.52.57 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.53.18 # v_eta is the absolute stream time? 01.53.48 # ise: okay, you probably could just call Microsoft but whatever, I got OllyDBG to work under WINE so I can look a little at firmware updater 01.53.48 # There are many different versions of time... 01.54.24 # jhulst: don't you worry i will most definately be onto Microsoft, if to at least get my £300 back! 01.54.25 # v_eta is the time of the video frame according to the PTS. 01.54.30 # I'm trying to figure out what's what and see what sort of stuff I can cook up... 01.54.41 # and PTS is what now? 01.54.49 # The Presentation Timestamp 01.54.51 # jhulst: but in the meantime, and since the firmware updater I got is for XP and not vista, would give a better impression. 01.54.56 # It's in the program stream packets. 01.55.07 # ok, I'm just getting up to speed here :) 01.55.19 # It seems that these values don't match the expected times of the frames if you display them at the specified framerate... 01.55.42 # e.g. markun gave me a stream which had 60 or so frames within the first second. 01.55.45 # ise: What are you analyzing it with? 01.55.50 # (a 29.97fps file) 01.56.11 # I see you divide by 90000 to get samples from the PTS but everything else is 27Mhz ticks? 01.56.15 # So all these different times are a way to adjust to those inconsistencies. 01.56.18 # rr0d, its the open source version of SoftIce 01.56.34 # PTS is 90KHz. 27MHz is the unit for the "frame duration". 01.56.43 # ok 01.56.50 # Plus I'm also using 44.1KHz to sync against the audio stream. 01.57.29 # All this stuff needs cleaning up, I'm still in the process of discovering the peculiarities of mpeg streams... 01.57.30 # of course. 01.57.33 # jhulst: its a kernel debugger, which should be able to give us the code in asm of what the firmware debugger is doing, how it is accessing the USB, and HOPEFULLY the checksum :P 01.58.29 # 60 or so frames in the first second sounds like 60 fields which would be just fine 01.58.52 # No, it's frames... Subsequent seconds have the expect ~30 frames. 01.58.58 # ^expected 01.59.16 # hrm...so are streams like that legal? 01.59.19 # Without that change, markun's file had video playing about a second after the audio. 01.59.36 # I've no idea... 02.00.13 # hmmm...I'm in the frame of mind to actually look at some open source software and just borrow from their troubles 02.00.24 # All this is going to cause hell when seeking is implemented... 02.01.33 Join smolyn [0] (n=smolyn@blk-138-57-29.eastlink.ca) 02.01.34 # mmm...perhaps. really the stream should be reset and given a new starting point up front. 02.01.39 # I've been looking a little at the mplayer source - that seems to play anything you throw at it in sync. 02.02.18 # I was having the same thought...should probably say everything you need if so 02.05.30 # One remaining issue I'm aware of is that I'm probably not correctly matching the audio PTS values with the audio frame being decoded. Code similar to that in my patch for v_eta should be used. 02.05.43 Part pixelma 02.06.23 # This makes the audio delay inaccurate by about 1/44th of a second, so it's not really noticable, but it's still wrong. 02.08.07 # so the audio frames have them too? 02.08.14 Quit JerryLange ("Leaving") 02.08.40 # Yes, and the same problems - 44100 samples may not be 1 second of PTS timestamps... 02.08.45 Quit ise (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.09.11 # if so, the audio should set a current timestamp variable the video can look at 02.09.51 # Yes, that might work. 02.10.35 # It's only recently that I've been paying proper attention to the PTS values. I naively assumed that they weren't important if the audio and video were just played at the correct rates... 02.10.37 # I think meybe there should just be a global stream time variable calculated in the best most accurate way available 02.11.01 Part kclaf 02.11.18 Quit nickv111 (Nick collision from services.) 02.11.39 Join kclaf [0] (i=kclaf@crj95-3-82-237-150-15.fbx.proxad.net) 02.12.24 # I suppose that finer estimates can be interpolated from the audio clock 02.12.33 # Currently there's "samplesplayed", which relates to the samples actually played through the DAC. That's the master clock... 02.13.02 # (actually, "s", which is samplesplayed - pcm_get_bytes_remaining()) 02.13.11 # s/remaining/waiting/ 02.13.17 # right, I had to use that to get late time negative feedback 02.15.16 # so I've got it taking late and feeding that negatively back into the scheduled time. also, some simple moving average lowpass filtering on some stuff which makes it play extremely smoothly 02.16.02 # What did you do about the sleep() in the video thread that waits for the time to display that frame? 02.16.29 # That sleep(4) seems to just be a test I left in the code... 02.17.11 Join ise [0] (n=ise@82.152.212.12) 02.17.29 # gone...a tight loop with priority_yield 02.17.56 # Good. 02.19.16 # yeah, that way it will see it's ready in a timely manner. though it seems to get stuck once the video hits the stream end even though I break the loop when videostatus != STREAM_PLAYING. 02.21.07 # Yes, there seem to be problems relating to the thread communications... 02.21.51 # it only happens if I hit the end of stream and try to quit the player 02.24.02 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 02.24.10 # Do you have a patch? I'm curious to see what you've done... 02.24.13 # do all streams have PTS or is that optional? 02.24.37 # I think it's optional... 02.24.45 # But I'm not sure I've seen a stream without them. 02.24.53 # No, I don't have a patch because trying to incorporate your PTS stuff has it messed at the moment :) 02.25.17 # OK, no problem. It's 1.25am here anyway... 02.27.02 Join nickv111 [0] (n=nick@c-75-71-229-135.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.27.11 # now that I have some idea of what the stuff means I'll think about how to put it together 02.31.03 Quit lokkju_wrk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.31.09 Join lokkju_wrk [0] (n=lokkju@unaffiliated/lokkju) 02.31.56 # On a slightly different subject, do you think it would be straightforward to incorporate DSP processing into mpegplayer? resampling is the obvious one, but maybe even things like crossfeed and the EQ if the processor is up to the task... 02.32.59 # I think it could be incorporated using the codec's dsp since it's not active. The next playback start will reset it anyway. 02.35.04 # Frankly I don't see any reason not to use pcmbuf_insert...just doing what playback does. 02.35.06 Quit Guile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.36.37 # That would be a lot simpler than what mpegplayer (and other plugins with sound) do currently... 02.36.54 # perhaps it would need a couple small adjustments but it should be straightforward 02.38.45 # Anyway, time for sleep. Goodnight. 02.39.27 # 'night 02.39.36 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-225-238.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 02.40.37 Quit linuxstb ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050317]") 02.41.06 # toffe82: i'm going to have to reinstall windows so i'm going to use rr0d and then XP. rr0d is an open source alternative to the late softice, a kernel debugger. I'm going to run the firmware update through it, would you be interested in the resulting dialog? 02.44.22 # I would like , but I don't have so many time now 02.46.08 # no i'll pm it to u in the forum if you wish, but it wont be till at least tomorrow 02.46.25 # im gonna give up for tonight 02.46.33 # watch some topgear n go sleep soon 02.48.59 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.50.52 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 02.53.18 # ise: I just got my ionterface for hd with zif connector, it works fine 02.53.22 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 02.53.42 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-78-217.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 02.53.45 # toffe82: excellent, have you taken a look at whats on the hard drive? 02.54.04 # toffe82: is it the same as what the wiki says for the gigabeat s30? 02.56.43 Quit gromit` (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.56.43 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.56.43 Quit amiconn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.56.43 Quit Hadaka (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.59.46 Quit juxtap (Connection timed out) 02.59.59 Quit Alonea (Remote closed the connection) 03.00.03 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.00.03 NJoin gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 03.00.15 # yes 03.02.37 # toffe82: brilliant, i hope jhulst finds the same when he is able to connect us his harddrive 03.03.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.59 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 03.05.33 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 03.07.30 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-78-217.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 03.08.35 Quit nickv111 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.08.41 Join nickv111 [0] (n=nick@c-75-71-229-135.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 03.08.51 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.15.38 Quit ise (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.23.28 Quit pabs (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.23.47 Join ise [0] (n=ise@82.152.216.236) 03.28.13 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.34.12 Nick pill_ is now known as pilled (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) 03.36.49 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 03.39.09 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 03.39.24 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 03.41.21 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.44.53 # how come my firmware/target/arm/gigabeat/meg-fx/lcd-meg-fx.c 03.45.09 # doesnt have markun's updates from 3 days ago 03.45.10 # hmm 03.46.57 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-78-217.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 03.48.16 Quit B4gder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.51.39 # pearldiver: the yuv update? it's been transformed into asm in the last day. 03.53.47 Quit Nimdae (Remote closed the connection) 03.57.54 # ahh 03.57.55 # i see 03.59.15 # i really dont like the things it introduced though 04.05.22 # such as? 04.06.36 # such as green tint and and too visible "blockiness" 04.09.05 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.10.32 # well, speed was the concern atm. if the decoder becomes more efficient, some extra precision can be easily added back. I looked for any tinting but didn't find anything terribly objectionable. The only extra blockiness I really saw was in the darkest colors...but again precision. 04.10.43 Quit nickv111 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.12.17 # got it 04.13.14 # but yes darkest colors look more blocky and green tinted now 04.14.17 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@166-220-001-094.mobile.mymmode.com) 04.14.29 # pearldiver: I have to very strongly disagree. 04.14.37 # really? 04.14.41 # I can't talk long, but before the YUV change, black was "dark gray" 04.15.00 # but now we have the same video we can reference to 04.15.11 # With the change contrast has been increased to the proper level. 04.15.26 # He was using the wrong math for it, assuming you're talking about Markun's change to the RGB->YUV math 04.15.37 # yes i was talking about that 04.15.41 # It's technically correct now 04.15.52 # this stuff's adjustable anyway. tint control could prabably be added with little or no overhead actually 04.15.54 # It's the math you're *supposed* to use. 04.15.54 # so we can blame the video 04.16.02 # not the mpegplayer now? 04.16.03 # Yes, we should be blaming the video, most likely 04.16.08 # At least for color concerns. 04.16.39 # Tint control should be added though, but the YUV<->RGB math is "technically" correct, so at the very least that change needs to stay, and anything done to colors should be on top of it 04.16.51 # s/should be/could be 04.16.54 # I did cut a lot of precision out of the red and blue chroma but I've seen background blockiness on Elephants dream in every tint anyway 04.16.54 # got it 04.17.13 # jhMikeS: Yeah, but he's talking about pre-ASM too, from what I got in the logs 04.17.25 # I may have missed things, I'm very... mobile right now. Was reading them on my phone. 04.17.37 # yes. that math was for full 0-255 range chroma and luma 04.17.57 # yes, markun pre-asm introduced the "green" thing, latest jhMikeS's updates introduced "more blockiness" 04.18.05 # Ah 04.18.10 # Well the green thing then is very likely the video. 04.18.18 # after change to ASM, green issue became better 04.18.23 # but still visible 04.18.24 # Darker stuff will be brighter now as a result though 04.19.01 # ok, sorted 04.19.16 # If my connection drops, I'm out of cellphone range and won't be back for a couple hours probably 04.19.27 # jhMikeS: So does that mean "black" won't be black again? 04.20.00 # Pre-markun-change I had a 2.35:1 video, so it had extra letterboxing, and they were dark gray against black, post change they matched the real black outside the video frame, but I haven't tried with your ASM yet 04.21.52 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.23.55 # black should be just black 04.24.49 # the blue and red chromas were truncated more but rounded to compensate...the green is just truncated by one less bit but no rounding to help out. 04.28.13 # not doing that added bunches of extra intructions to convert an RGB666 output to RGB565 and also reduced the output from about 40fps to 36 or so 04.30.33 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@24.244.160.233) 04.33.11 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-78-217.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 04.39.37 Quit Caliban (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.41.42 Quit donutman25 ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 04.42.03 Join Bawitdaba [0] (n=Sphinx@cpe-24-25-130-25.nycap.res.rr.com) 04.45.06 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.01.48 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@71.216.234.24) 05.02.48 # jhMikeS: Yeah, when you said things would be "lighter" I instantly worried about black, ignoring that you didn't mention altering the luma at all 05.03.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.10.05 # Luma is altered for sure but it's range in MPEG video is 16..235 but in JPEG 0..255. 16 being black and anything less being blacker. The function translates that range to the RGB range and clips if needed. 05.12.21 # jhMikeS: Yeah, and I think the old code assumed "0" was black for video. 05.12.25 # * Llorean isn't sure about that 05.12.31 # Old being pre changes by Markun 05.12.37 # Or maybe, his draft changes. 05.18.16 # right...the old routine was based on the correct coversion for JPEG 05.21.16 # Yep, anyway, thanks for clearing that up a bit. :) 05.21.54 # I watched video on your routines on my flight, and didn't notice it being significantly worse as pearldiver describes, but I may just not be that picky. :) 05.22.47 # it's hard to be too picky when such massive bandwidth is involved :). the JPEG viewer routine is very precision oriented otoh 05.23.30 # Yeah, I'd really love to see 30fps on scaled SVCD like Linuxstb mentioned. 05.24.06 # Just for the 'nifty' factor really 05.24.22 Join samadam [0] (n=samadam@rtay-164-107-196-44.resnet.ohio-state.edu) 05.24.23 # The old routine was about 60% of the decoder load 05.24.34 # running elephant's dread anyway 05.24.43 # s/dread/dream 05.24.51 # I noticed that we're at ~38fps on my fullscreen file right now. 05.25.01 # Which means significantly less dropped frames during disk spinups 05.25.45 # I never saw dropping from disk spins...odd 05.26.01 # It was a -qscale 2 file. 1150kbps 320x176 video 05.26.33 # It was a 29.97fps file, with limiting off it hit about 34 05.26.42 # I think some spinup time compensation will be needed based on data rate 05.27.22 # It'd drop a lot of frames during disk spinups, but I haven't tested it for several days (and don't have it available right now) 05.27.23 # I also think the decoder should rotate the video and also help with frame dropping 05.27.56 # It only dropped 3% of frames during the entire file, but almost all of them were during spinups 05.28.14 # Help with frame dropping? 05.29.32 # It should be told if there's a flood situation and skip decoding certain frames in the first place. 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Installing? 08.51.02 # yeh 08.51.04 # no i mean 08.51.09 # bennyhinn: installing took me about 10 minutes 08.51.13 # figuring it out lol, getting rid of my previous firmware, putting rock on 08.51.26 # I think it's fairly intuitive 08.51.38 # first time I ever used it I was playing music inside of 10 minutes too 08.52.17 Join bluebrother [0] (i=FMXTFnsJ@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 08.52.29 # really? 08.52.35 # yes 08.52.41 # why ever would I lie ?!? 08.52.58 # its hard gettin 100% genuine information from irc chat! 08.53.00 # sometimes.. 08.53.00 # linuxstb: when you wake up, PM me on the PS3 isntall :) 08.53.15 # the mods here tend to take a dim view of us bullshitting the crowd. 08.54.31 # well, that was very blunt 08.55.03 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 08.55.15 Quit darkless ("Leaving") 08.55.17 Join J-_ [0] (n=justin@unaffiliated/j/x-388422) 08.55.22 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 08.55.35 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 08.56.09 # in the future, will rockbox support creative zen vision:m? 08.56.31 # Maybe 08.56.35 # J-_: if someone decides to port to it then yes 08.56.46 # otherwise signs point to no 08.57.16 # cool 08.57.25 # should of bought an iRiver =( 08.57.36 # or a gigabeat 08.58.31 # wow this manual is HUGE 08.58.42 # never heard of gigabeat 08.59.07 # J-_: made by toshiba. In my opinion it offers the best Rockbox experience at the moment 08.59.08 Quit std|denis ("bye") 08.59.20 # unless you require recording, in which case an iRiver H1x0 is better 08.59.35 # Huh, no recording on Gigabeat? 08.59.39 # What about FM? 08.59.52 # pondlife: see comment above regarding recording ;) 09.00.03 # lol 09.00.04 # also I concede it has no radio either - but I never listen to that 09.00.17 # and often forget such a medium exists 09.00.19 # * pondlife uses both recording and radio 09.00.24 # I never use it on my H140 09.00.30 # or recording either for that matter 09.00.34 # Darn it, I thought I had my new DAP lined up too. 09.01.22 # i hav to admit, the gigabeats firmware, even the update, sucks 09.02.11 # GodEater_: cool 09.02.15 # looks nice 09.02.48 # J-_: in case you become tempted to buy one - only get an F or X series - we don't run on anything else currently 09.02.50 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b7915931d2843d3b) 09.03.03 Join kramdra [0] (n=Kramdra@82-43-219-92.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.03.06 # k 09.03.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.04.07 # bennyhinn: as I said, the first time I tried rockbox I was playing music inside of 10 minutes. Learning ALL of rockbox's features however will take you a while - there's a lot to it 09.04.17 # bennyhinn: heck - I still don't claim to know them all 09.04.25 # and I've been using it for 2 years or so 09.05.20 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (n=sphinx@p213.54.166.168.tisdip.tiscali.de) 09.06.00 # jeezus 09.06.06 # that difficult yeh 09.06.29 # not difficult no 09.06.38 # there's just a lot of functionality I don't need 09.06.43 # so I've never bothered learning it 09.06.52 # see my comments above regarding recording and the FM radio 09.07.02 # I don't use either feature, so there's no point me looking them up is there ? 09.07.21 # however, to other people, they're absolute must haves 09.07.51 # from pondlife's cursing I guess they're invaluable to him 09.08.25 # http://radekhulan.cz/img/rockbox/rockbox-bubbles.png haha games on the rockbox!? 09.08.37 # J-_: yes - we have lots of games 09.11.07 # i may have to get a cheap iRiver one of these days and it out 09.12.14 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.12.29 # or even a sandisk, something cheap 09.13.02 # this gigabeat doesnt have an FM radio 09.14.36 # im hoping though, this this rock box, that ill be able to play more than just mp3, wav and wma, lol 09.15.02 # probably depends on the player you get 09.15.26 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 09.15.58 # gigabeat F series 09.16.20 # im also hopin the user interface will be user friendly, cuz my friend is a newwbbb 09.17.15 Part J-_ 09.19.14 # bennyhinn: Rockbox supports many audio formats, but not wma 09.19.25 # (yet) 09.19.30 # Indeed 09.19.37 # thats cool 09.19.38 # * aliask remembers about SoC 09.19.46 # as long as it can support more than 3 im happy 09.19.58 # Much more than three :) 09.20.03 # sweet 09.20.04 # alac ? 09.20.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs 09.20.58 # petur: Beat me to it :P 09.21.48 # the websites difficult to read, it hurts my eyes 09.22.07 # bennyhinn: Right at the bottom of the page you'll see what's working 09.22.27 # What's wrong with the site anyway? 09.23.22 # aac - thats the main one 09.23.35 # its designed so that 'coders' can read it, and not 'newbs' like myself 09.23.50 # it dont do mp3? 09.24.15 # sure 09.24.30 # Mpeg audio is listed... 09.25.21 # does that mean mp3 09.25.32 # MP3 is one of the mpeg audio codecs 09.25.56 # ohh 09.26.05 # chronic 09.26.06 # Mpeg Layer 3 i think 09.26.12 # ill need this rockbox business though, especially since it has aac 09.26.37 Join lachlan-mc [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-140a5dc0fa8ca04a) 09.26.46 Quit lachlan-mc (Client Quit) 09.27.53 Join lachlan-mc [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-62595784ccc66222) 09.28.46 # wma is listed there though 09.29.14 # Not at the bottom of the page like I said. 09.29.35 # The page is also used for throwing around ideas about where we might be able to use code from to support extra codecs 09.33.19 Join kubiixaka [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 09.33.19 Quit kubiix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.34.25 Quit Zagor ("Leaving") 09.34.29 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 09.37.50 # Off topic question: What exactly is L2 Cache, and how much effect does it have on performance? 09.39.01 # please use google for this type of questions 09.39.36 # god dam wher can i look at some rock box screen shots 09.39.49 # the manual and the wps gallery 09.40.59 # Or install it on your device, or try a UI simulator from http://www.rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ 09.42.29 # oh 09.43.42 Join B4gder [0] (i=148a14e7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a0e53c23384b8ddd) 09.44.21 # GodEater_: Being slightly on-topic, my ps3 linux install went fine. I've just tried building Rockbox, and it took about 3m 30s for a full swcodec build. 09.45.49 Join kurbjunk [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-24-8-203-134.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 09.46.40 # okay so rockbox turns a colourful ipod nano into a black and white morbid lookin thing 09.47.05 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 09.47.14 # bennyhinn: No. 09.47.30 # bennyhinn: before making sweeping accusations, read the manual 09.47.42 # But it can do if that's the theme you're using... 09.48.55 # er what am i supposed to click on then in the simulator to start the simulation 09.49.15 # * petur has a B&W setting (white text on black background) that's quite nice and usefull when it's dark 09.49.29 # * linuxstb too - iCatcher 09.49.45 # Well, reversed.... 09.49.47 # bennyhinn: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UiSimulator has keymaps 09.49.55 Quit TheSphinX^ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 09.52.08 # bennyhinn: when the simulator has started it already simulates ;-) 09.55.27 # i tried Uisimulator 09.56.09 # i ment in the simulator folder.. 09.56.20 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.58.12 # bennyhinn: What happens when you run rockboxui.exe? 09.59.25 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 09.59.55 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@91.84.8.218) 10.00.29 # * pondlife is happy he discovered "make -j" 10.10.53 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 10.11.13 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 10.12.53 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 10.17.33 Join crop [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3012a795d4dd14e4) 10.18.16 # Hello. Where is the recording options menu? Is it available only from the recording screen now? 10.19.01 # yes, press the menu button while in the recording screen 10.19.42 # petur: is it just a temporary state (menu still not converted/incorporated) or is it final? 10.20.01 # maybe it's still somewhere in the settings tree but I don't ever use it that way 10.20.33 # this is the state after the root menu got introduced and it will probably stay a while like this 10.22.09 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.22.15 # hmm... it doesn't seem very intuitive to me. Then we should have e.g. the playback menu only available from the WPS. Etc. I'm not against it being accessible from the recording screen also. But I think it should also be present in the settings 10.22.56 # Like sound menu 10.23.22 # crop: I think there's been some discussion about it when the main (root) menu got introduced... can't remember 10.23.33 Join docgnome [0] (n=docgnome@64-40-57-155.nocharge.com) 10.25.16 # petur: I think it wouldn't be very hard to correct this but I don't want to make a patch if that's not in the line with the RB "ideology" 10.26.12 # crop: it's in the settings menu 10.26.12 # I'd like all settings to be available under the Settings menu (in addition to the context menu settings) 10.26.33 # just look -- but IIRC that hasn't been corrected in the manual yet 10.26.35 # No idea how easy it would be to reuse the same code 10.28.20 # bluebrother: where? I couldn't find it on H120 10.28.35 # I have an Archos Jukebox Studio 20. When I mount it on my linux box it mounts as a standard usb device. However when I plug it into my mac, I can't seem to get it to recognise at all. IE nothing shows up in dmesg when I plug it in. Anyone know anything about using this device with a mac? I just installed rockbox on it. Very nice by the way. Makes it about a thousand time easier to navigate than the archos firmware 10.29.21 # Menu / Settings / Recording Settings 10.29.35 # docgnome: it isn't a standard usb storage device 10.29.56 # you need a driver for it 10.30.10 # crop: I find this quite straightforware ... if it's not present not your build is too old 10.30.21 # B4gder: Ah. Strange as it mounts just fine under linux. 10.30.30 # B4gder: any idea where to find a driver? 10.30.41 # linux comes with the driver built-in 10.30.55 # thanks to Zagor :-) 10.32.05 # bluebrother: my build is two days old. 10.32.37 # it's definitely there since a while 10.33.28 Quit ludios (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.33.28 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.33.47 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.33.47 NJoin ludios [0] (n=ludios@adsl-71-143-3-91.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 10.35.29 # bluebrother: ok, I'll check. Must have missed it 10.36.21 # B4gder: is there a driver for it for OS X? 10.38.14 # I have no idea 10.43.09 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCFE91.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.43.19 # bluebrother: he. I looked for it in the Recording entry in the main menu. That's why :-) 10.44.55 # the recording entry takes you straight to the recording screen which is much better imho 10.45.47 # petur: yes. But I used to find a submenu there. Now it's better, I agree 10.45.58 Join Shaid` [0] (i=shaid@203-214-4-200.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.48.11 # docgnome: Quick googling for: isd200 driver "os x" yielded this: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/11561 10.48.49 # amiconn: I found that. Thanks. 10.51.32 # * bluebrother just discovered colorsvn 10.54.16 Quit B4gder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.55.44 # * petur uses tortoise and doesn't care 10.56.56 Quit ludios (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.56.56 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.57.12 # is media monkey compatible with rockbox 10.57.22 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.57.22 NJoin ludios [0] (n=ludios@adsl-71-143-3-91.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 10.57.41 # bennyhinn: yes 10.57.58 # anything that doesnt use DRM or change the files in some way will work 10.58.33 # amiconn: You mentioned a while back I could send a SEEN message to logbot to find when someone was last around... 10.58.47 # I don't seem to be able to get any response. 10.58.53 # Is it just SEEN 10.59.04 Join thebigearl [0] (n=biggy@dslc-082-082-076-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.59.43 # !seen pondlife 10.59.51 # hrm...guess not 10.59.57 # pondlife: /msg logbot seen 11.00.11 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.00.15 # It may be that you need to allow messages from unregistered users in order to see the answer 11.00.27 # i was just about to say soemthign about him not being identified 11.00.28 # Aha, that's probably the issue 11.00.30 # * amiconn usually has that enabled 11.01.15 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.01.42 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.02.37 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 11.02.59 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 11.03.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.04.19 # Nope, still not working. Ne'er mind. 11.04.35 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.04.36 Nick Shaid` is now known as Shaid (i=shaid@203-214-4-200.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.04.37 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.06.05 # pondlife: You're not identified yourself, meaning logbot won't get your messages 11.07.04 Quit ludios (Remote closed the connection) 11.07.45 # Hmm, I thought I was 11.10.38 # ah cool 11.12.10 # do guys here tend to go for winamp or is media player adequate 11.12.28 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 11.12.32 # Any comments on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6799? I also was able to get the bug. It's not very annoying but it's still a little bug. 11.12.51 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.13.17 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.13.33 # Err... sorry, I mean http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6807. What I've written is the fix (it's in the "related tasks") 11.13.36 # amiconn: Am I now identified ok? 11.13.55 # * pondlife is a total IRC luser 11.14.02 # pondlife: yes 11.14.15 # bennyhinn: On Windows I use Mediamonkey, on Ubuntu I prefer Amarok 11.14.34 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@84.4.21.92) 11.14.41 # crop: it's reproduceable 11.16.12 # err... I still mean 6799 :-) 6807 is the fix :-) All screwed up in my head! 11.16.17 # pondlife: you cna see if you are buy doing a /whois pondlife 11.16.23 # Yup 11.16.25 # s/buy/by 11.16.34 # Do I need to re-indentify each session? 11.16.38 # yes 11.16.40 # identify, even 11.16.44 # crop: yes, but that doesn't change much ;-) 11.16.47 # unless your client is set up to do that for you 11.16.56 # I thought it was!! 11.17.34 # but I'm wondering if that wouldn't be fixed better in the credits plugin 11.17.38 # so monkey media compatible with rocker box 11.17.53 # [01:57:36] bennyhinn: yes 11.17.53 # [01:57:53] anything that doesnt use DRM or change the files in some way will work 11.18.00 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.18.11 # bennyhinn: as someone is using it it should work, shouldn't it? 11.18.39 Join Bagder_ [0] (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-057ae6ca9518bd01) 11.18.55 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 11.19.12 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 11.20.24 # bluebrother: I know nothing about what the fix does. I just saw the bug report and could reproduce it. And then I saw that there's a fix for it. 11.20.29 # Nope... anyone know which option in Miranda might enable automatic identify? 11.20.45 Part Bagder_ 11.21.25 # bennyhinn: No players are 'compatible' with rockbox. Rockbox is drag'n'drop 11.21.31 # pondlife: you'd have to set it up to automatically send the message to nickserv 11.22.05 Join Bagder_ [0] (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-057ae6ca9518bd01) 11.22.08 # pondlife: most irc client provide somewhere for you to specify an "on connect" command 11.22.15 # pondlife: a quick google search will tell you that 11.22.22 # Sorry 11.22.39 # Thought I'd fill up #Rockbox with some more OTness 11.22.58 # is media monkey compatible with rockbox bennyhinn: yes 11.23.12 Quit pondlife (Client Quit) 11.23.19 # bennyhinn: what is your point 11.23.47 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 11.23.54 Nick Bagder_ is now known as B4gder (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-057ae6ca9518bd01) 11.24.06 Quit XavierGr () 11.24.27 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.24.40 # B4gder: you will likely have shirts for those unable to attend devcon again, correct? ;) 11.24.55 # I hope so 11.25.30 # ah son of a gun media monkey does not support aac 11.25.36 # also, is there a reason logbot isnt identified? (i think i remember it doing that in the past, but i could be mistaken) 11.26.04 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 11.26.13 # I don't think there's been much work on making it do so 11.26.31 # is it registered? 11.26.57 # It's not talking to me still.. 11.27.35 # pondlife: did you change it so that you can read PMs from non-identified people? 11.27.41 # Yes 11.27.47 # I think so. 11.28.06 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 11.28.23 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 11.28.48 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.29.02 Quit crop ("CGI:IRC") 11.29.58 Join docgnome_ [0] (n=docgnome@64-40-62-29.nocharge.com) 11.36.10 Quit docgnome_ () 11.37.18 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.40.14 Quit bun-bun () 11.40.55 # bennyhinn: why don't you use itunes with ita? 11.41.06 Join asterix [0] (n=ST@125-24-151-214.adsl.totbb.net) 11.41.16 # Hello 11.42.08 # I need information 11.42.18 # Ask away 11.42.35 # My friend have a problem for see so he need vocal for is archos 404 11.42.41 # (sorry for my english) 11.42.51 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp146-113.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) 11.42.56 # I don t know wich rockbox to use for archos 404 11.43.07 # asterix: none...rockbox does not work with that device 11.43.30 # ah 11.43.48 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0174.fh-trier.de) 11.44.22 # and have another system vocal for this device ? 11.44.34 # no clue 11.44.34 Quit inversions (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.44.54 # we deal with rockbox here...and rockbox alone ;) 11.45.16 # wasn't there this open archos / free archos / similar project? 11.45.39 # bluebrother: yes, but i do not knwo it that has voice....i am not even sure if it can play music 11.45.55 # no idea what they do (and what devices they support) though 11.46.07 # archopen is the name 11.46.54 # i have only looked at the source for the archos av300 series, so i do not knwo much else about it 11.47.16 Join crop [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2c8dd8092990f4ff) 11.47.25 # scorche : ok thanks and sorry i ll speak only rockbox now :p 11.47.47 # asterix: well, we do allow english here too ;) 11.48.24 # hehe 11.48.45 # Are FM stations voiced? I.e. if I switch FM (in preset mode)? I've never used voice but would activate it for this. It would be quite handy when the dap is on my belt 11.48.58 # crop: no 11.49.22 # as there are no voice clips for the stations (how?) and we don't have a tts (yet) 11.49.55 Join Moos [0] (i=Moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 11.50.04 # bluebrother: has it been discussed and rejected? And what is tts? You could provide voice clips for your stations (like you probably have to for folders) 11.50.16 # asterix: people are trying to port rockbox to the creative zen vision:m, it has the same CPU as the never archos models, so maybe rockbox will be ported to those as well then. 11.50.59 # markun : ok good news, so maybe we will have rockbox soon for model 404 ? 11.51.06 # crop: tts = text-to-speech 11.51.07 Quit docgnome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.51.17 # asterix: not soon 11.51.34 # well, maybe, it's hard to predict 11.52.20 # markun: ah... But I'd think it's rather cpu intensive, no? 11.53.14 # markun : ok thank you for info 11.54.02 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 11.54.21 # crop: a bit (depends on the method) 11.54.29 # but I have a Gigabeat :) 11.54.32 # bye bye everybody and thanks 11.54.37 Quit asterix ("Bye") 11.55.02 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 11.55.15 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 11.55.32 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 11.55.35 # pondlife: Yes you are identified now 11.56.17 # markun: how are directory names spelled? With voice clips? If yes then this could also be expanded to FM stations. 11.56.26 # bluebrother: FM stations could be voiced by number or spelled, like files 11.56.58 # On hwcodec it's not possible because the mas is in recording mode for prerecording 11.57.09 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966378.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.57.09 # amiconn: or by frequency 11.57.28 # (for scan mode) 11.57.41 # It could be done if we don't put the mas into recording mode if prerecording is disabled 11.58.11 # In fact I am pondering to do this, as it would save power as well 11.59.09 # amiconn: a bit OT: where do you get all the information that's needed for programming codecs, mpeg playback etc? 12.02.39 Quit lachlan-mc ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.02.59 Quit PaulJam (".") 12.04.16 # crop: almost all of our codecs are just copied from other open source projects 12.04.44 Quit bennyhinn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.05.46 # I mean the last changes in the video player. All the code for a/v syncronisation, frame drops etc. One must have studied this quite a bit to do such kind of stuff. 12.06.23 Join ubuntu_ [0] (n=ubuntu@C-59-101-124-249.syd.connect.net.au) 12.06.56 # crop: well, ask linuxstb how he does it :) 12.07.16 # magic usually ;) 12.07.51 # markun: ah, that's linuxstb? Sorry, mixed it up 12.10.10 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@m157.net81-66-65.noos.fr) 12.10.15 Part kaaloo 12.17.53 Quit crop ("CGI:IRC") 12.20.24 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@wbs-41-208-216-123.wbs.co.za) 12.30.44 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp254-142.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.35.05 Join nls [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 12.42.08 Quit himitsu ("Leaving") 12.45.04 Quit ubuntu_ (Remote closed the connection) 12.45.04 Join Stalwart [0] (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 12.56.40 Join liberty_ [0] (n=liberty@218.104.71.166) 12.57.53 # In my iaudio M5, the cpu usage of ogg decoding seems a little high according to debug info. 12.58.39 # The mp3 and musepack always stick to 45MHZ while ogg sometimes jumps to 123 MHZ. 12.58.53 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54bcd16c.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.58.58 # feel free to optimize! ;-) 12.59.16 # that is normal, vorbis uses more cpu than mp3 and musepack 12.59.23 Join Zeph0x [0] (n=KrPD@bzq-88-154-155-93.red.bezeqint.net) 13.01.11 Join liberty__ [0] (n=liberty@218.22.21.2) 13.02.31 # liberty_: and the boost percentage on that screen shows how much time is spent > 45MHz 13.02.45 # 42-46% 13.03.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.05.21 # Is it possible to make rockbox remeber the folder in which the music is playing,when entering "file"? 13.05.40 # enable the "follow playlist" option 13.06.39 # I will try. 13.06.40 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.09.43 Quit liberty_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.09.52 Nick liberty__ is now known as liberty_ (n=liberty@218.22.21.2) 13.16.00 Quit K4rP4D (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.14 # wow the TGV (french trai,) beat the new record of speed 575 km/h or 360 miles ! 13.16.18 # train 13.16.54 # When will rockbox rocks that speed! 13.17.12 # hehe :) 13.17.38 # when someone on that train has a rockbox in his hand and run forwards 13.17.47 # haha :D 13.18.24 # Rockbox, the new train firmware ;) 13.18.50 # You will feel playing doom in it! 13.23.26 Quit liberty_ ("Leaving") 13.34.18 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 13.37.28 Join bennyhinn [0] (n=not@203-217-78-205.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.39.08 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 13.39.48 Quit safetydan (Remote closed the connection) 13.40.26 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 13.41.48 Quit PaulJam (".") 13.46.17 Join spahija [0] (n=spahija@84.212.5.56) 13.46.50 Join chaos [0] (i=7d198cce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-48065ed6f211e8ad) 13.47.00 # hi all, finally got my used ipod 3 gen from ebay and wondering if I can install rockbox on it ? 13.48.01 # you can 13.48.30 # how do i make the jpeg viewer working? 13.48.38 # chaos, ogg is possible with rockbox ? 13.48.46 # spahija: yes 13.48.58 # although not for the old archos players 13.49.15 # chaos: what's not working? 13.49.23 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 13.49.23 # hey theres no such thing as free broadband 13.49.26 # right?> 13.49.34 # what are main differences between ipodlinux and rockbox ? 13.49.39 # bennyhinn: wrong channel.. 13.49.42 # afaik on the 3rd gen Ipod it's not really good (decodes not fast enough) 13.49.48 # hah, finally :D 13.50.06 # * amiconn found the lcd controller specs of the oldplayer lcd 13.50.15 # At least one that's command compatible 13.50.17 # spahija: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodLinux 13.50.28 # pixelma, cpu is slow or decoder is not that good ? 13.50.57 # i can't view pics on my rockbox 13.51.21 # markun, nice answer :D 13.51.52 # one more thing before I go away and stop nagging about ipod.... 13.52.08 # spahija: a bit of both maybe - dan_a is the only dev who has a 3g Ipod - maybe he can tell you more what codecs work well there 13.52.16 Quit daurn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.52.30 # where can I find tips and tricks regarding buttons/keys on ipod? 13.52.40 # pixelma, dan_a is not here ? 13.52.49 # ahh he is here 13.52.54 # lol ok i'll tell u since i got an ipod 5g 13.53.37 # center+menu (hold restart ), 13.53.58 # how come i can't view pics on my ipod from rockbox 13.54.12 # chaos, I was thinking more like link to the page that explains it 13.54.12 # spahija: you can also have a look into our fine manual ;) 13.54.25 # pixelma, oh ? url please 13.54.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 13.54.57 # (kinda lasy to find it my self but GRATEFUL for any url ) 13.55.26 # pixelma, nice ..thanks 13.57.18 # i guess its back to the manual 13.57.35 Quit kubiixaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.58.00 # chaos: what did you try to view your jpegs so far? 13.58.09 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.58.21 # hey gang, it's been a whi;e 13.58.31 # what did i miss? 13.58.37 Quit jba (Client Quit) 13.59.01 # i can't view 13.59.41 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 14.00.44 Join jonashn [0] (i=d90a1a7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b971ecf1c4b0a965) 14.00.45 Quit jonashn (Client Quit) 14.00.47 # when i look on plugins i cannot find jpeg viewer ... when i put a pic on my ipod root i can see the file but its not selectable 14.00.53 Join jonashn [0] (i=d90a1a7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7459e0cfaf9a294a) 14.02.29 # any idea y? 14.02.31 # chaos: what do you mean with "it's not selectable" - do you get an error message? 14.03.32 # no i can see the file on rockbox ...but no mater how many times i press nothing changes i still see the file 14.04.46 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1700008.3.2 ... i don't have jpeg viewer on my plugin on rockbox 14.05.44 # it's a viewer - you won't see it in "browse plugins" 14.06.18 # oh ... so how can i view pics 14.06.29 # usually it should be enough to just select the jpeg as if you would select a song to play 14.07.39 # i exactly tried to play the songs (working) but whe viewing a pic (does not work) .. or maybe the pic is too big? 14.08.49 # yes that could be, epecially when music is also playing. So maybe you could try a smaller picture first? 14.11.10 Join gil__ [0] (n=KrPD@bzq-88-154-155-93.red.bezeqint.net) 14.11.16 Quit spahija ("Leaving") 14.11.56 # and i can't paly videos on my ipod video from rockbox ... if u said i didn't covert then u r wrong i did but after converted (using VLC) the fle is only with sounds (the video is gone ) 14.13.17 Quit petur ("worrrk stkov") 14.15.01 # anyone knows whats wrong? 14.16.33 # you converted them wrong 14.16.34 # :) 14.16.50 # using VLC but the manual said so .. 14.16.54 # Have you tried using a video from the rockbox site? 14.17.04 # yea ... not working 14.17.16 # Elephant's dream isn't working either? 14.18.17 # Try this file: http://mikachu.rockbox.org/elephantsdream-q6-320x240-830kbps.mpg 14.18.59 # i got the 320 1 for my rockbox 14.19.00 Part samadam 14.19.10 # isn't this the same 14.19.47 # Should be about 80mb I think 14.19.53 Quit SirFunk (Remote closed the connection) 14.20.25 # mine is 139 megabytes 14.20.55 # 2 files ... 80mb and 1 is 70 mb 14.20.57 # Well it must be different. This one is definitely not that big. 14.21.09 Join bigearl [0] (n=biggy@dslb-088-070-030-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.21.14 # What? 14.21.15 # Two files? 14.21.19 # hmm i got 1 80 mb file (elephants dream) 14.21.27 # And does it play? 14.21.39 # yea ... the manual lefts u download 2 files of elephant dream 14.21.56 # nope i cannot directly run the video through rojbox 14.22.24 # Can you please check what you're typing - I'm having a hard time understanding you 14.23.21 # But if that version of elephant's dream isn't working, then I think you should do a full update of rockbox, including the plugin files. 14.23.28 # what build are you using (when and where did you get it from)? 14.23.52 # umm i don't get u guys ... what ... how do i update the rockbox 14.24.36 # downlaod a new zip and unzip it to your ipod 14.25.20 # http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip 14.25.28 # That's the latest build for iPod 5g 14.25.33 # if they ask to replace anything then? replace them? and after update will all my stuff like doom and my wall papers disappears? 14.25.51 # Replace everything. Doom and your wallpapers will not be overwritten 14.26.05 # ahh ... thank god 14.26.27 # oh yea 1 more thing ... in doom the 3rd stage is bugged if u didn't know 14.26.35 # doom2 that is 14.26.55 # What's wrong with it? 14.27.26 Quit Zeph0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.00 # on third stage (the latest doom 2) you will get a blue key and enter a door ... then after that u will activate switches ....that whole area u will be stuck 14.31.24 # Hrm, sounds more like a problem with the doom2.wad file... does it freeze or you can't go any further? 14.32.03 Join mbr [0] (n=mbr@p3ee05ca8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.32.43 # u will be stuck (u can move everywhere ... and the yellow key is is ungettable =P 14.34.00 # Hrm, odd. Don't really know much about doom2... I finished doom1 on rockbox though - so that works... 14.36.19 Quit thebigearl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.36.19 Quit chaos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.36.53 Join chao [0] (i=7d198cce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e77008e574667ea) 14.37.31 Quit jonashn ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.40.09 # i extracted all the fles from the new rockbox.zip ... nothing to replace ... so did i do it right 14.40.42 # nothing to replace? 14.40.50 # it should replace a whole bunch of files 14.41.05 # u mean there are files that must be replaced? 14.41.31 # it should replace a whole bunch of files 14.41.34 # WHAT??????????? ... if mines the newest rockbox then maybe nothing to replace right? 14.41.47 # it should replace a whole bunch of files 14.41.49 # i got rockbox about a month ago 14.42.05 # how would the zip app know if you have the latest rockbox? 14.42.05 Quit chao ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.42.28 Join chaos [0] (i=7d198cce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8c86fc214b5b2bc9) 14.44.01 # where can i get the latest build for my ipod video 5g 14.44.23 # http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip? 14.44.26 # chaos: www.rockbox.org 14.44.57 # Yes 14.45.13 # Are you sure you extracted it in the right place? 14.45.26 # i extract those files in my rockbo folder right? 14.45.39 # No, it should have gone into the root of the ipod 14.46.05 # someone gave me a link earlier 14.46.54 # ok so .. i already extracted to my rockbox folder ... any side effects? 14.47.17 # yes, now you have a .rockbox folder inside your .rockbox folder 14.47.37 # NOOOOO ... 14.48.26 Join lalu [0] (n=lalu@faya.chapeaux-noirs.org) 14.48.30 # hello guys 14.48.48 # i download the latest builds from http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip o i extract them right? 14.48.53 # I've made a terrible mistke: trying to install rockbox on a 80 G Ipod ... 14.49.12 # It does not boot anymore 14.49.31 # even dmesh under linux does not show any trace of it 14.49.32 # it's clearly one of those days... 14.49.53 # lalu: reset it, and then put it in disk mode 14.50.12 # lalu: there's a thread on the rockbox forums under apple installs with instructions on how to do both 14.50.22 # lalu: then use ipodpatcher to uninstall the rockbox bootloader 14.50.31 # ok 14.50.43 # i was looking for such a thread 14.50.44 # thx 14.50.46 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 14.50.47 # can u use winamp pro to transfer songs from pc - rockbox enabled device 14.50.58 # it's called "The my iPod Install went wrong" thread 14.51.13 # i wana ask a question ... mplayer cannot be seen on the plugin area right? 14.51.15 # thx 14.51.55 # chaos: assuming you mean mpegplayerplugin, then yes 14.52.17 # yes =P 14.52.41 # choas: it works like a viewer like for jpgviewer 14.53.01 # just select the mpg file 14.53.16 # ok thx i will try i gtg ttyl =) 14.53.52 Quit chaos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.54.05 # the following is a question: can u use winamp pro to transfer songs from pc - rockbox enabled device 14.54.48 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54bce2f1.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.55.01 # bennyhinn: you should be able too but regular drag and drop should work too 14.55.26 # regular disclaimers apply since I haven't used winamp in years 14.55.32 # ah yeh but it'd be easier to manage 14.55.46 # * GodEater_ fails to see how 14.56.03 # really? 14.56.17 # GodEater_: If you're one of the many people without a very well organized music collection, being able to drag & drop while seeing the tags probably helps. 14.56.32 # a winamp pro, is that a person very gifted at using winamp? ;-) 14.56.47 # B4gder: not it's someone who gets paid to use it 14.56.53 # ;) 14.56.59 # NuclearDog: if you say so 14.57.05 Quit jba ("Leaving") 14.57.37 # Well, if you've got a folder full of improperly named files all with incosistent names and a good 4 or 5 thousand in one directory... I think some sort of app would be easier. 14.57.49 # But I couldn't tell you, as all my music's nicely sorted so I just drag & drop. 14.57.53 # NuclearDog: sounds like a good way to end up with a not-well-organized music collection on your device. 14.58.01 # I struggle to work out how I'd arrive at owning such a directory 14.58.06 # Febs: indeed :) 14.58.13 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 14.58.17 # but if you tell me many people have such a structure, then I must believe you I suppose 14.58.50 # Well, anyone who just fires up and downloads song after song, never conforming the filenames at all, will. 14.58.54 # There are apps that can rename files after the tags in them too... 14.59.06 # NuclearDog: we're not interested in supporting piracy here however 14.59.31 # so if that's how someone has arrived at their music collection, then that's their tough luck in my opinion 14.59.38 # Not intending to, you just seemed to be wondering how one might obtain a music collection that disorganized, there's your answer. 15.00.11 # NuclearDog: understood - but I still think we shouldn't be helping such people out afterwards 15.00.21 # Oh, agreed. 15.00.25 # theoretically they could have downloaded thousands of demos, creative commons stuff/public domain stuff tho 15.00.42 # nls: I think I'll just shut up now then ;) 15.00.43 # Theoretically... I doubt you could find thousands of horribly mislabelled creative common songs out there. 15.01.40 # But I'm out. Adios. 15.03.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.05.02 Join ment [0] (i=thement@ibawizard.net) 15.06.44 Join jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 15.06.58 # Is Dan Everton here? 15.07.31 # nope 15.07.46 # he's known as safetydan usually 15.08.02 # GodEater_: Thx I made it :) pfiuuuu 15.08.08 # you rock man 15.08.26 # Is there a way (svn or cvs) to get rockbox on a 80 G ? 15.08.37 # no 15.08.51 # fuck :/ 15.09.04 # the regular builds are straight from svn sources 15.10.04 # B4gder: thanks 15.14.20 # lalu: the dev in question knows *what* to do to make the 80GB work, it's just he doesn't have time to do it at the moment 15.14.21 # Ok I'll wait till the next release 15.14.34 # haha 15.14.40 # be a long wait.... 15.14.42 # that is gonna take a while ;-) 15.14.46 # you think ? 15.14.53 # well the last one was over a year ago 15.14.56 # It will *probably* be before hell freezes over. 15.15.00 # But there's no guarantee. 15.15.06 # isn't it just a few offsets to add to the code ? 15.15.24 # lalu: hahahahahahahaha 15.15.33 # ok I see 15.15.53 # lalu: don't feel too bad - I'm a fellow 80GB owner 15.15.53 # lalu: they meant that you will could rockbox on your DAP long time before rockbox made an official release for it 15.16.00 # +use 15.16.26 # GodEater_: welcome to the club :p 15.16.49 # lalu: very broadly, what needs to happen is : 1) Fix the ATA driver to allow for use of 1024byte sectors (fairly trivial) 15.17.01 # Perhaps a release will be the subject of discussion at DevCon 2007. Though so far it seems that the only formal agenda item is "have a beer." 15.17.06 # Not that there's anything wrong with that. 15.17.11 # 2) fix the FAT code to allow the use of 1024 byte sectors handed to it from the ATA driver (not trivial) 15.17.16 # it was a subject at the last devcon ;-) 15.17.31 # 3) Make sure that both those changes don't break exisiting rockbox targets (not trivial at all) 15.17.39 # B4gder: true, true. 15.17.51 # You know, given the agenda, I'm surprised preglow hasn't signed up yet. 15.17.54 # but yes, we could indeed discuss on how to make a release possible 15.17.59 # I don't see anything wrong with having formal beer drinking as part of the agenda :) 15.18.24 # B4gder: with a 1 year feature freeze ;P 15.18.24 # I had to carry a bunch of beers home after devcon2006 so we need to improve in that area 15.18.25 # heh 3.0 is just one month shy of being a year late now :-) 15.19.29 # GodEater_: Thx for the explanation, I did not know the Hd driver changed from 60 G to 80 15.19.45 # lalu: neither did we for ages, it took along time to figure it out 15.19.45 Join heanol_ [0] (i=heanol@karantan.org) 15.20.06 # LinusN figured it out in late January 15.20.15 # stop talking about beer :p, I'll stay at work for 2 h 30 15.20.34 # lalu: same here - 'nother few hours to go before beer drinkin' time ;) 15.23.54 # hang it on ! 15.24.02 Quit heanol (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.24.12 # and with the spring coming on , it's harder than never 15.27.27 Quit ctaf ("Leaving.") 15.28.12 # lalu: where are you from ? 15.29.19 # * Moos make a bet for France 15.29.59 # having remembered the /whois command, I'm willing to agree ;) 15.30.08 # Three points for Moos 15.30.10 # lol 15.30.15 # :-) 15.30.17 # yep I'm from Paris 15.30.31 # * Moos is from Paris too ;) 15.30.34 # This should mean my english if far from perfect 15.30.47 # far better than my grasp of francais ;) 15.31.12 # ;) 15.31.18 # Moos: Paris rocks 15.31.32 # yep ! 15.31.34 # ANd you where are you now ? 15.31.48 Join child [0] (i=7d198cce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aa1c0951827f9c4c) 15.31.52 # (I'm planing a world tour next year...) 15.32.07 # Birth and living in Paris 15.32.13 # lucky you 15.32.18 # Moos: I see, and noos adept 15.32.31 # hehe :) 15.33.07 # not a fan but for me they do the job (but my nick is from mustapha) 15.33.15 # hey i got a version problem 15.33.47 # it says incompatable version when i try viewing videos or pic on rockbox 15.34.01 # Update your build and be sure to overwrite existing files. 15.34.06 Quit kramdra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.34.17 # and whn i try listeniong to music codec failure 15.34.25 # Update your build and be sure to overwrite existing files. 15.34.27 # i did 15.34.30 # like Febs said 15.34.44 # i replaced everything 15.34.53 # and still the problems occur 15.34.54 # child: no 2 rockbox.target files? 15.35.03 # and make sure you do "savely remove hardware" 15.35.18 # umm ... ok that i didn't do 15.35.22 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@host.91-92-172-170.airbites.bg) 15.35.42 # just yanking it can very well make funny filesystem results 15.36.37 # lol 15.37.18 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 15.37.43 # whcih do i get current builds or realeases 15.37.54 Join lachlan-mc [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-33bb306fa2db0277) 15.38.03 Quit lachlan-mc (Client Quit) 15.38.05 # current build 15.38.16 Join lachlan-mc [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d4949553e0d1719b) 15.38.24 # child: all this is covered in the manual 15.39.30 # ok thx 15.40.06 Quit child ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.41.04 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.56.48 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 15.56.48 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.56.51 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 15.57.42 Quit eggy ("") 15.58.38 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.59.14 Quit lachlan-mc ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.03.11 Nick joshin_ is now known as joshin (n=joshin@unaffiliated/joshin) 16.07.27 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0148.fh-trier.de) 16.08.32 Join ludios [0] (n=ludios@adsl-71-143-3-91.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 16.08.36 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 16.17.56 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.20.14 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-075-177-158-190.nc.res.rr.com) 16.22.28 Join perl|work [0] (n=jacquesc@static-64-61-105-170.isp.broadviewnet.net) 16.27.09 Quit Shaid ("I will see you, in the end. And I will laugh at your pain...") 16.31.08 Join bun-bun [0] (n=bun@71-92-215-82.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) 16.32.52 # Anyone know if LinusN is on holiday? 16.33.05 # he is 16.33.08 # Aha 16.34.29 Quit PaulJam (".") 16.37.03 Quit kubiix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.37.58 Join Tenkawa [0] (n=Tenkawa@unaffiliated/tenkawa) 16.38.32 # So.. any progress on getting rockbox functional on the Vision:M 16.38.33 # ? 16.39.22 # there's talk in the forum thread about it 16.39.32 # but it is still very early 16.39.36 # yeah.. saw that 16.39.57 # I don't think there has been a real break through yet 16.39.59 # vision:m's one flaw (at least for me) is its lack of aac support 16.40.18 # i wouldnt even be looking for replacement firmware if it werent for that 16.40.24 # ogg would be nice too mind you 16.40.31 # or even flac 16.40.42 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@71.216.234.24) 16.41.35 Part Tenkawa 16.46.03 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 16.46.23 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 16.49.14 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 16.49.36 Join Aldoliel [0] (n=aldoliel@i-195-137-21-239.freedom2surf.net) 16.55.19 Part B4gder 16.55.42 # I don't know if it was mentioned in here or not but iPod rockbox users might find this interesting: http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/03/add-compact-flash-to-almost-any-ipod/ 16.59.39 # I wonder why a flashcard would be usefull on my 80 G ;-) 17.00.10 # lalu: it might support 512byte sector transfers :) 17.03.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.09.48 # :p 17.10.00 # 45 minutes left ... 17.10.23 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 17.10.45 Quit Aldoliel ("Leaving") 17.12.21 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@71.216.234.24) 17.18.20 Quit hcs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.20.13 Quit preglow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.20.52 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 17.22.13 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 17.22.16 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 17.24.47 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 17.25.30 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@24.244.160.233) 17.27.54 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.30.56 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 17.33.55 Part kaaloo 17.35.15 Join Ph1r3ph0x [0] (n=Miranda@p57a97191.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.35.25 Join webguest81 [0] (i=1847df8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ebf90fc3b4eece66) 17.35.35 # hi 17.35.58 # hi, i was wondering if anyone knows where to get the half life plugin 17.36.06 # i have some problems with my rockbox =( (Ipod 5G) 17.36.13 # can help 17.36.20 # webguest81: there is no halflife plugin 17.36.21 # i can help* 17.36.28 # yes 17.36.30 # and the doom plugin is documented on the wiki i believe 17.36.38 # there is at a japonese website 17.36.56 # ph1r3 what is ur problem? 17.37.04 # maybe it's a halflife lookalike doom wad 17.37.14 # my rockbox doesent play music anymore 17.37.24 # hmm 17.37.30 # wait 1 sec 17.37.32 # codec failure 17.37.49 # sry for my english, im german 17.37.56 # it's ok 17.38.06 # Ph1r3ph0x: when did you last update it ? 17.38.11 # today 17.38.22 # hmm 17.38.24 # i had an old version and everything worked well 17.38.34 # did u dl the loader 1 or 2? 17.38.37 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 17.38.42 # Ph1r3ph0x: which DAP do you own ? 17.38.50 # GodEater_: 17:36 < Ph1r3ph0x> i have some problems with my rockbox =( (Ipod 5G) 17.38.54 # doh 17.39.00 # I *just* spotted that as well :) 17.39.10 # Ph1r3ph0x: have you updated the bootloader recently as well ? 17.39.11 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-177-141.dynamic.qsc.de) 17.39.21 # are u on mac or pc or linux? 17.39.25 # i have installed ipod linux, too so i didnt installed the rockbox loader 17.39.30 # did the ipod bootloader ever not look in .rockbox for rockbox.ipod? 17.39.30 # windows 17.39.35 # k 17.39.38 # Ph1r3ph0x: I would imagine that's the problem then 17.39.47 # mhm 17.39.50 # maybe 17.40.00 # Ph1r3ph0x: you can check it by copying rockbox.ipod from .rockbox to the root of the player 17.40.06 # do u have the window up that says ... ipo (G:)? 17.40.30 # Ph1r3ph0x: loader2 is known to have issues with recent builds of rockbox 17.40.32 # webguest81: do u have the window up that says ... ipo (G:)? 17.40.32 # ???? 17.40.38 # Ph1r3ph0x: it doesn't initialise the COP properly 17.40.52 # where do i get the loader2 `? 17.40.53 # go into folder in ur ipod .rockbox 17.41.14 # then codecs 17.41.24 # ok 17.41.26 # webguest81: what are you trying to do? 17.41.34 # u should c a file called sid.codec 17.41.36 # Ph1r3ph0x: loader2 is the iPL bootloader 17.41.53 # Ph1r3ph0x: ignore webguest81.. 17.41.56 # he has error in codecs 17.42.51 # did you buy ur music from itunes store? 17.43.01 # webguest81: you're not helping at all 17.43.07 # stfu 17.43.28 # not a good idea to say that to a dev... 17.43.35 # are your files aac? 17.43.40 # hey, what do I know.. 17.43.45 # whatever 17.43.52 # * GodEater_ looks round for an op 17.44.04 Quit webguest81 ("CGI:IRC") 17.44.21 # GodEater_: Well looked there 17.44.25 # Ph1r3ph0x: I hope you don't get too confused :) 17.44.33 # ^^ 17.44.36 # ists ok 17.44.38 # :P 17.44.48 Join webguest24 [0] (i=1847df8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-80316cf604d2675a) 17.45.04 # does anyone recall if you have to build your own version of loader2 for current rockbox builds ? 17.45.09 # oh, webguest81 is back 17.45.11 # I think linuxstb submitted patches to them 17.45.14 # now with a new number ;-) 17.45.22 Join AceNik [0] (i=cb919f2c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9808e24451f293af) 17.45.24 # who is the guy with problems playing music? Try rebuilding the file database with EasyH10 17.45.46 # w8 17.45.47 # that database isn't used by Rockbox 17.45.48 # normally codec failures happen when the codecs are out of sync with the rockbox kernel, no? 17.45.49 # still spouting complete gibberish too 17.45.56 # markun: yes 17.46.02 # ipodwizard.com... 17.46.19 # So I guess his bootloader is loading the kernel from the root, and not from .rockbox/ 17.46.23 # if "codec failure" comes up after an update you most probably haven't extracted the complete contents of the zip file 17.46.29 # markun: I think you're right 17.46.39 # Ph1r3ph0x: did you try to copy rockbox.ipod from .rockbox to the root of the player? 17.46.49 # bluebrother: we think it's cos he's using ipl's loader, and it's still loading an old rockbox.ipod from the root 17.46.53 # and as the firmware file itself has moved recently make sure you don't have a file rockbox.ipod in the root of the player (that file is now in the .rockbox folder) 17.47.26 # but when loading the new rockbox.ipod it would fail because of the missing COP initialization ... 17.47.37 # very possibly 17.47.53 # or has the path changed with the COP support in Loader2? 17.48.04 # don't believe so 17.48.13 # linuxstb didn't mention making that change 17.48.16 # in his patch 17.49.05 # markun: So I guess his bootloader is loading the kernel from the root, and not from .rockbox 17.49.06 # no 17.49.11 # i've copied it 17.49.11 Quit webguest24 (Client Quit) 17.49.16 # to the root folder 17.49.24 # Ph1r3ph0x: and still you get the same problem? 17.49.30 # yes 17.49.50 # then you haven't extracted the complete build. 17.49.55 # hey guys i patched a lcd.h file as it showed hunks failed in the dict_all patch , not i have added the code of the rej file to the lch.h file , now i want to compile new patch having these changes, what do i type, there are changes in multiple directories, in certain files 17.50.15 # AceNik: just build it ... 17.50.25 # if you changed files there isn't anything special. 17.50.32 # you just create a build. 17.50.40 # AceNik: change to the root of your rockbox directory, and then type "svn diff > the_name_of_your_patch.diff 17.50.52 # bluebrother: then you haven't extracted the complete build. 17.50.52 # >> i've tried a lot already^^ I've deleted the whole .rockbox folder and extracted the archiev then... 17.51.07 # always the same 17.51.13 # Ph1r3ph0x: I'm tempted to say "try it with the rockbox bootloader" in that case 17.51.19 Join webguest52 [0] (i=4493eb4d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2d769744297a235d) 17.51.22 # bluebrother: which bootloader should he install? 17.51.22 # I use loader2 with Rockbox. I've never had to set or change anything to make it work. All I had to do was extract the rockbox.zip file i get off of the current builds page to my ipod. Then the option for rockbox appears on the loader2 main page. I'm not sure why you installed the rockbox bootloader on top of the loader 2. I would probably just restore you ipod in itunes, install IPL and loader 2, download ro 17.51.26 # Is this your problem because I'm having trouble understanding what's going on. I am sorry if what i said is old information. 17.52.22 # so everytime i apply a new patch now , suppose i add another patch to this source, then i cant run svn diff to et the new patch rite ? 17.52.38 # sry webguest52 but whats IPL? :P 17.52.45 # Ph1r3ph0x: ipod linux 17.52.51 # ah 17.52.52 # ok 17.53.02 # AceNik: sorry I'm not sure what you're asking 17.53.10 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 17.53.22 # ok i'll try it later 17.53.26 # thx for helo 17.53.30 # *help 17.53.33 # AceNik: when you say "suppose I add another patch" do you mean adding smoeone else's patch, or making changes to the code yourself ? 17.53.39 # i must go now 17.53.42 # cya 17.53.44 # loader2 2.4 doesn't work with current builds. Don't know which release added support for the COP. 17.53.45 # bye 17.53.56 # >2.5 I think 17.53.59 Quit Ph1r3ph0x ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.54.13 # * GodEater_ also has to run 17.54.24 Quit webguest52 (Client Quit) 17.55.24 # well now i added the dict patch , n made changes to it , then i did svn diff , n made the modified patch , then suppose i add the vlimit patch , & modify the source by adding the rej file contents to respective places , then how do a generate a new patch for vlimit 17.55.52 # you can't easily. 17.56.15 # you can create a complete source folder with the 1st patch applies, then create a complete tree with both 17.56.23 # and then diff between the two folders 17.56.55 # svn diff will always diff to svn, so if you have two patches applies svn diff will create a diff containing both patches 17.57.53 # ok ill manage thanks 17.58.15 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.58.55 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 18.04.20 Quit ise ("Leaving") 18.06.26 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.08.46 Join aduarte [0] (n=alfredo_@201.139.193.235) 18.11.36 Quit ctaf ("Leaving.") 18.12.15 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 18.16.32 Quit aduarte (Remote closed the connection) 18.17.41 # tell me this i ran the svn diff , made a patch , is it possibelt that the path can be 20KB less than before?, cause the original patch that didnt work was 98KB & now its 78KB , & lines were added to the ource not deducted 18.19.12 Part toffe82 18.20.12 # AceNik: if you only add stuff than it shouldn't get smaller no 18.20.21 # s/than/then/ 18.21.44 # im trying to apply thew diff from svn pathed to the fresh svn & see if the new patch compiles a build 18.23.20 # the earlier patch i ran showed hunk at every step , now when i run the new patch it shows just 1 hunk in total & it says succeeded 18.23.58 # AceNik: what I normally do to get an old patch working is to apply it to an old svn, update svn, fix any conflicts and do svn diff to make a new patch 18.25.23 # AceNik: btw, when you reply to my with it looks more like you are quoting me.. 18.25.42 # but maybe that's just me :) 18.25.49 # then how to reply 18.25.55 # AceNik: like this? 18.26.44 # but maybe it's normal for some irc clients, I'm just not used to it 18.27.45 Join aduarte [0] (n=alfredo_@201.139.193.235) 18.28.22 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 18.28.38 # markun, toffe82 i asked chinese people about pictures 18.28.55 # they sent some with f40 boxes 18.29.15 # but still they insist on selling x60 18.29.26 # markun:http://pastebin.ca/422652 18.29.56 # perl|work: if we ask long enough maybe they find some actual X60 boxes online :) 18.30.45 Quit bennyhinn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.31.27 # haha 18.31.29 # http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/04/sony_admits_def.html 18.31.49 # AceNik: weird.. 18.33.20 # markun :thats wat im stuck at , im sure i replaced everything from the .rj file into the lcd.h 18.34.39 # should i patch the earlier file & show you wat it shows 18.36.58 # no, that's ok 18.37.06 # I don't really have time to look into it 18.38.12 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 18.38.46 # Hmm, selecting a bookmark while playing locks up playback here (in the sim)... 18.39.00 # It just sits there not buffering anything! 18.39.34 Part aduarte 18.39.46 # * pondlife wishes he had a device to try this on, but will pop it on Flyspray for someone else to try. 18.40.08 Quit AceNik ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.40.36 # Ah, looks like it's already logged: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6364 18.40.43 # Nico_P: around? 18.40.53 # pondlife: yes 18.41.14 # Do you know anything more about http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6364 ? 18.41.37 # I'm about to look into it, hopefull 18.41.39 # y 18.43.05 # pondlife: It's been a long time since I last looked at it 18.43.13 # I don't see why this affects bookmarks, but not playlists... 18.43.14 # I think all I know is in the patch :s 18.43.32 # No problem, just thought I'd ask in case 18.48.19 # Bagder: are you around ? 18.53.25 Join AceNik [0] (i=cb919f28@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d196bbec07dccbce) 18.54.36 # markun: you there? 18.54.49 Join wLLm [0] (n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl) 18.55.32 Quit w1ll14m (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.27 # AceNik: yes 18.59.27 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.00.16 Nick qwx is now known as qwm (n=qwm@h162n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 19.01.11 # can someone tell me whether it's a good idea to parse the WPS file char by char ? 19.01.24 # markun: well there is a line in the rej file that doesnt have a + or - before it & on checking in the original .h file not the .orig, original lcd.h , the line doesnt exists , wat do i do , its a extern void lcd_icon somethin, well there is a line way below having void lcd_icon 19.01.32 # i.e. reading one char at a time, which would save the use of a buffer 19.01.59 # AceNik: I'm here, but don't have time 19.02.31 # markun: ok tc 19.03.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.05.08 # nico_p: it's not that bad, since the ata driver buffers a sector. 19.05.22 # E.g., read_line works that way. 19.06.03 # Lear: I think it would be the best way to get rid of the format buffer. The parser would be quite easy to adapt 19.06.21 # However, the bitmap reads in between might interfere... 19.06.53 # Lear: read_line was my inspiration for this but I still had doubts 19.06.56 # good point 19.08.52 # hmm but the original code did load the bitmaps at the same time as reading the WPS source file 19.08.58 # Still, performance is not critical in this case. And locating and reading the bitmaps is the slow part. 19.09.00 # so it's probably not a big problem 19.09.20 # Didn't it do either a load of the entire file, or a line-by-line read? 19.09.22 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 19.09.27 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 19.10.09 # Lear: it copied the source file line by line to the format buffer, loading bitmaps each time a line containing one was read 19.10.34 Quit Siku () 19.14.27 Join kfazz [0] (n=ken@69.43.65.27) 19.21.54 Join docgnome [0] (n=docgnome@64-40-62-29.nocharge.com) 19.22.29 Part toffe82 19.22.43 Quit HaSH (Remote closed the connection) 19.23.09 Part docgnome 19.24.36 # markun: just one last doubt ,so if my patches a few of them work today , i should maintain that right , like keep the modified source & keep updatin that same source with the svn , so that the new changes will be allocated automatically ? 19.25.03 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.25.41 # Lear: The fat driver is where the sectors are cached, and every open file descriptor has its own buffer 19.27.16 # Nico_P: I think it would help performance with bitmapped wps'es if the wps parser first reads the whole .wps, then loads the .bmps afterwards 19.28.12 # amiconn: that means storing the bitmap paths somewhere 19.28.26 # Not the whole paths, just the names 19.30.35 # right, but I still need a place to store them. 19.30.51 # is there a limit to their length ? 19.31.23 # We can just define one 19.31.33 Quit AceNik ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.32.37 Join brefan [0] (n=kvirc@vhe-362409.sshn.net) 19.32.38 # amiconn: would it be a good idea to use the plugin buffer to store temp data ? 19.32.48 # like the WPS string and the bmp file names 19.32.58 Join docgnome [0] (n=docgnome@64-40-62-29.nocharge.com) 19.33.09 # Well, if you can make sure that the wps parser and the playlist viewer never run at the same time... 19.33.15 Join HaSH [0] (n=free@38.100.91.114) 19.33.20 # does anyone know of a program for os x that will turn iTunes playlists into m3u? 19.33.40 # amiconn: when does the playlist viewer use the plugin buffer ? only when a playlist is displayed ? 19.33.52 # Yes, afaik 19.34.01 # so that shouldn't be much of a problem 19.34.13 # I've found several windows programs to do that... but I'm not running windows 19.34.27 # You also need to take care of tsr plugins, i.e. request the plugin ram and use what you get instead of hardcoding 19.34.51 # replacing the format buffer by the plugin buffer sounds like the ideal solution 19.34.54 # The playlist viewer does this (and is the reason why tsr plugins must not use plugin_get_buffer(), btw) 19.35.02 # amiconn: ok 19.35.10 # i'll look at the playlist viewer 19.35.14 # Well, only if you just need a temporary buffer 19.35.36 # In case the wps needs this buffer all the time, a separate one is necessary afaics 19.36.07 # amiconn: no, it only needs it to parse the source file. then it's all in the wps_data struct 19.36.31 # currently there's a waste of memory in this struct : both the source and the result are stored 19.37.01 # I want to get rid of the source text 19.37.56 # Time to eat. I'll look at the playlist code after dinner :) 19.39.18 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 19.42.22 Join funky_ [0] (n=repulse@81.202.252.163.dyn.user.ono.com) 19.43.17 Nick funky_ is now known as funky (n=repulse@81.202.252.163.dyn.user.ono.com) 19.46.52 Part docgnome 19.53.09 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.53.16 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.53.20 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.53.39 Join Johtaja [0] (n=Johtaja@a88-112-248-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 19.53.47 # Hello. 19.53.53 Join DeaconKoos [0] (n=Deaconko@142.222.104.34) 19.54.34 # I just insatalled Rock Box onto a sansa e270 and i have a big problem with it. 19.54.55 # My computer does not detect it. 19.55.14 # so i can not transfer anything from or 2 it. 19.55.25 # what should i do? 19.56.00 # so 19.56.16 # anyone seen SuperDSombrero around? 19.59.51 Join webguest47 [0] (i=44bd115c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-268469637fdf0594) 19.59.58 Join bennyhinn [0] (n=not@210-84-53-33.dyn.iinet.net.au) 19.59.58 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 20.00.27 # Johtaja: afaik you have to boot into sansa firmware for usb transfers (but I don't have a sansa myself) 20.01.47 Quit oKtosiTe (Remote closed the connection) 20.01.59 # Thanks a million! You saved my day :) 20.02.08 Join webguest36 [0] (i=c4027cfb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-54dbe08248698d06) 20.02.44 # you're welcome :) 20.03.09 # I thought i was soo screwd xD 20.04.44 Quit webguest36 (Client Quit) 20.05.06 # There we go :) 20.05.06 Quit webguest47 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.05.15 # Now ill mess around w/ it later 20.06.12 # Bye, and thanks. 20.06.16 Quit Johtaja ("On tullut aika lähteä...") 20.06.46 # forum search is broken once again :/ 20.15.41 Join eggy [0] (n=eggy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/yorkcc.eggy) 20.18.08 Quit Ribs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.18.51 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-24-8-203-134.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 20.21.31 Quit midgey () 20.21.52 Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) 20.22.14 Quit H10_007quick (Client Quit) 20.23.37 # amiconn: when you said "request the plugin ram and use what you get instead of hardcoding", what did you mean by hardcoding ? is using plugin_get_buffer() enough ? 20.24.11 # yes 20.24.38 Join walter [0] (n=walter@ip5653990e.direct-adsl.nl) 20.24.46 # ok, cool 20.24.55 # By hardcoding I meant just using the start address instead of plugin_get_buffer() 20.25.13 # that's what I thought but I just wanted to make sure 20.36.24 Quit kurbjunk (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.41.12 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.43.50 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-178-248.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.46.44 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 20.47.22 Part toffe82 20.47.55 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 20.49.04 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-092-220.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.49.56 Join fudgeyou [0] (n=not@203-217-78-205.dyn.iinet.net.au) 20.52.30 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@e177172136.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.54.06 # First complete battery run on sansa: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SandiskE200BatteryMeasurements 20.56.44 # What puzzles me is the low power message from the bootloader, when switched on with nearly empty battery 20.57.13 # Is that done by the original bootload part? 20.57.20 # bootloader 21.01.11 Quit bigearl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.04.02 Quit DeaconKoos () 21.04.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.14 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 21.05.04 # Nico_P, thanks (again) for all the work on the cue support, its a pleasure to use it :P 21.05.06 Quit ompaul ("warning: missing joke!") 21.05.17 Quit bennyhinn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.05.40 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 21.05.48 # perl|work: you're welcome :) 21.06.55 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@gifn3.fpl.com) 21.07.17 Join kurbjunk [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-24-8-203-134.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 21.07.26 # Nico_P, really cant imagine a better way to implement all the features it has, at least the interface side of it 21.08.15 # how come patches 6908 & 6911 haven't been included in the sansa build? Is there a problem with them? 21.11.04 Join JavaMan22 [0] (n=HP_Admin@c-24-61-91-138.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) 21.12.06 Join vimman [0] (n=codeshep@bb121-6-190-47.singnet.com.sg) 21.18.42 # rude box, shake ur rude box, why you so nasty? 21.19.44 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.20.37 # >:o 21.23.26 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 21.24.20 Quit mattzz ("Leaving") 21.26.00 # * Nico_P has gotten rid of the format_buffer :) 21.27.47 # robbie, are you here? 21.27.52 # :P 21.28.34 Part JavaMan22 21.34.31 Part jac0b 21.50.55 Join oKtosiTe [0] (n=oKtosiTe@unaffiliated/oKtosiTe) 21.52.03 # a quick overview of the tokenizer : http://nicolas.pennequin.free.fr/call_graph_parser.png 21.52.40 # ooo fancy! ;-) 21.53.33 # :) 21.54.06 Quit fudgeyou (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.54.53 # Bagder: how hard would it be to set up branches in the SVN repo to work on some things ? 21.55.16 # very easy 21.55.46 # Bagder: do you think it would be a good idea or would it just lead to a complete mess ? 21.55.55 # I'm not very familiar with the concept 21.56.32 # but I was thinking about it because it sounds to be a perfectly appropriate definition of what I'm doing currently 21.56.58 # it makes sense if you want others to be able to collaborate and share the work 21.57.28 # ok 21.57.56 # but we should probably bring up the subject with a few other devs first to see what people think 21.58.47 # i'm not really suggesting creating a branch for the tokenizer... it's probably a bit late for that now, but it could've been nice. 21.58.53 Join BigMac [0] (n=Mike@64.252.208.196) 21.59.18 # yeah, the question is still valid for other upcoming work 21.59.23 Quit walter ("Konversation terminated!") 21.59.24 Join bennyhinn [0] (n=not@203-217-78-205.dyn.iinet.net.au) 21.59.44 # indeed, especially GSoC work 22.04.40 Join Stalwart^ [0] (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 22.05.19 Part toffe82 22.06.02 Join Vercingetorix [0] (n=Legolas@host-84-220-76-51.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 22.06.41 # Hi all...I need some help 22.07.19 # I have an ipod 4G grey with ipodbootloader 2.5d6 installed and last build of rockbox 22.07.35 # and I always get the message "codec failure" 22.07.38 # any hints? 22.08.06 # Vercingetorix: you have a rockbox.* in your root? 22.08.16 # rockbox.ipod possibly 22.08.20 # I have rockbox.ipod in my root 22.08.22 # yes 22.08.29 # remove that and upgrade your bootloader 22.08.29 # and the .rockbox directory 22.08.49 # newer bootloaders prefer the rockbox.ipod _within_ the .rockbox folder 22.08.55 # which is where we put it these days 22.09.04 # I have already tried... 22.09.13 # but I'll try again 22.09.19 # thanks... 22.09.25 Quit oKtosiTe (Remote closed the connection) 22.09.32 # a less good option is to copy the file from within .rockbox to the root folder 22.09.53 # this is what I do usually 22.09.57 Quit BigMac ("Leaving") 22.15.31 Quit Stalwart (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.06 Quit billytwowilly (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.41 # same problem again...I have revomed rockbox.ipod from the root folder, reinstalled the bootloader with dd, unzipped the lastest build of rockbox and modified the ipodloader.conf making it pointing to /.rockbox/rockbox.ipod 22.16.59 # rockbox starts...but when I try to read a file: codec failure 22.18.01 # we dont support ipodloader here...just rockbox and the rockbox bootloader 22.18.23 # UH 22.18.42 # but...this means that I cannot have rockbox and ipodlinux installed together? 22.18.56 # it can cause unintended effects like that 22.19.02 # you can have them like that just fine 22.19.29 # Vercingetorix: did you download current build or daily? 22.19.46 # you mean that I can boot ipodlinux with rockbox bootloader? 22.20.26 # I downloaded daily build 22.20.49 # try the SVN builds 22.21.24 # I have tried also the current build 22.21.27 # same effect 22.21.44 # I get this problem from about one month 22.22.13 Nick Stalwart^ is now known as Stalwart (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 22.22.16 # well, the ipl bootloader can have effects like this, or so i have heard....i would go to the people that made that piece of software 22.22.36 Quit bennyhinn (Connection timed out) 22.22.56 # check the date of the rockbox.ipod file and those in .rockbox/codecs , they should be the same date 22.23.27 # ok, now I check 22.23.28 # and only have one rockbox.ipod on your player, in .rockbox dir 22.23.45 # have you been extracting just the rockbox.ipod file, or the folder also? 22.24.30 Join oKtosiTe [0] (n=oKtosiTe@unaffiliated/oKtosiTe) 22.24.36 # I have only one rockbox.ipod file, in the .rockbox folder, its date is the same of codes 22.24.46 # I unzipped all the file 22.32.41 # Vercingetorix: What kind of files are you trying to play? 22.32.54 # simple mp3 22.33.04 # the problem happens with any file 22.33.20 # Shouldn't be the file then... 22.33.31 # so I think... 22.33.52 # may be the problem is the ipodbootloader 2.5d6 that I use to boot rockbox 22.34.02 # yes...which is what i was saying 22.34.37 # exactly 22.34.57 # possibly something about its dual-core support, and with us running the codec on the other core... 22.35.10 Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) 22.35.36 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 22.36.41 # ok...how can I install the rockbox bootloader? I have tried to run ipodpatcher but then I only get an apple that constantly reboot... 22.36.52 # I need to disinstall ipodbootloader in some way? 22.39.06 Join Ph1r3ph0x4768 [0] (n=Miranda@p57a97191.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.39.24 # hi 22.39.43 # been a while seen I saw line noise ;-) 22.39.47 # since 22.40.02 Nick Ph1r3ph0x4768 is now known as Firefox (n=Miranda@p57a97191.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.40.51 Nick Firefox is now known as Ph1r3ph0x_number (n=Miranda@p57a97191.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.41.16 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 22.41.23 # i have some problems with my rockbox 22.41.34 Nick Ph1r3ph0x_number is now known as Ph1r3ph0x_ (n=Miranda@p57a97191.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.41.45 # can sb. help me please? 22.41.47 # enough witht he name changes...really 22.41.51 # ^^ 22.41.53 # sry 22.42.35 # i can't hear music.... 22.42.45 # and i don 22.42.46 # t 22.42.56 # know where is the problem 22.43.16 # what's your target? 22.43.24 # ipod 5g 22.43.40 # and what, exactly, is happening? 22.43.45 # i have already had an old version of rockbox 22.43.54 # now i've updated it 22.44.01 # and there is a read error 22.44.18 # w8 a moment and i can tell you the exact error 22.45.14 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.45.28 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.45.29 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.45.58 # Data abort at 002FF64 22.46.20 # and i have to reset the ipod 22.46.25 # can you update to the newest build and see if you still get it? 22.46.37 # I believe you were also someone who used loader2 ? 22.46.40 # it IS the latest build 22.46.59 # i use the ipod linux loader 22.47.06 # * scorche sighs 22.47.08 # haha 22.47.37 # Ph1r3ph0x_: first test is to use the Rockbox bootloader instead 22.48.01 # how do i do this? :P 22.48.12 # where do i get it? 22.49.51 # ?? 22.51.12 # how old was your previous build before you updated to this one and things got screwey? 22.51.29 # uff 22.51.58 # i think rockbox-ipodvideo-20070122 22.53.23 # i have a backup but i want to use the new feauters 22.54.12 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@host-84-9-129-14.bulldogdsl.com) 22.55.13 # your bootloader, does it display black text on a blue background perhaps? 22.55.31 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc1-brig8-0-0-cust807.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.55.31 # ipl bootloader Soap 22.56.12 # dang it - I read him say it even. I completely fogged out and though he was insisting on the RB bootloader. 22.56.28 # ahh - with IPL's bootloader - who knows? 22.56.31 # Ph1r3ph0x_: run this: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe 22.56.39 Quit oKtosiTe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.57.23 # (I'm assuming you are on Windows.) 22.57.31 # i am 22.57.33 # thx 22.57.56 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 23.00.30 # ok 23.01.22 # the same 23.01.28 # but also the same bootloader 23.01.51 # i think i need to reset my ipod complitly first 23.02.29 Quit Guile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.40 # therefor i found this: 23.02.40 # http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ipodresetutility10forwindows.html 23.02.40 # but its not for 5G 23.03.55 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 23.04.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.29 # Could you please write actual sentences and perhaps provide some information? What do you mean by "ok" and "the same"? 23.05.55 # And more importantly, by "but also the same bootloader"? 23.06.01 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@84.4.23.130) 23.06.04 # unless you need the apple firmware you can just format it 23.06.22 # its the same misstake and the bootloader didnt change 23.06.35 # What happened when you ran ipodpatcher? 23.06.56 # blabla installed successfully 23.08.02 # Here's what you should do now: blabla. 23.08.20 # * midgey chuckles 23.08.24 # -.- 23.09.01 # Ph1r3ph0x_: you're from germany? 23.09.10 # yes 23.09.24 # My point is that "blabla" is not very helpful to us. 23.09.24 Quit Vercingetorix (Remote closed the connection) 23.09.30 # Ph1r3ph0x_: please read this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 23.09.38 # Febs: that's "denglisch" -- english with german sentence style ;-) 23.09.58 # ^^ 23.10.20 # Ph1r3ph0x_: uninstall the IPL bootloader first. Try running ipodpatcher and use the "uninstall" option 23.10.58 # i cant uninstall the ipl bootloader, thats the point 23.11.42 # do you have a backup copy of the boot sector? 23.11.58 # no 23.12.01 # btw, german version of the link Febs gave you: http://lugbz.org/documents/smart-questions_de.html 23.12.11 # does a fat32 format remove bootloaders? 23.12.13 Join Moofar^Colt [0] (n=k@ip68-107-19-179.sd.sd.cox.net) 23.12.24 # how did you install the bootloader? I assume IPL has some removal option 23.12.26 # robin0800: no 23.13.32 # i can reset everything with the "Ipod Updater", i did so in the past, but it says *Interner Fehler* - Internal Error 23.13.35 # so you would have to use itunes if there is no uninstall option? 23.14.05 # you can also copy back a backup copy of the boot sector ... 23.14.47 # ok i've found sth 23.14.48 # http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_13005742.html 23.14.58 # w8 a second 23.15.04 # the ipod updater is very out of date i think its all done in itunes now 23.15.36 Quit Moofar^Colt (Client Quit) 23.16.56 Nick gil__ is now known as K4rP4D (n=KrPD@bzq-88-154-155-93.red.bezeqint.net) 23.16.57 # Ph1r3ph0x_: did you enable emergency disk mode before trying to update? 23.17.15 # whats this? 23.17.18 # do many people make backup copies of the boot sector? 23.17.34 # no idea 23.17.58 # reboot the ipod by holding down Menu + Select. When the apple logo comes up press Play + Select. 23.17.58 # i MADE a backup but i had a hdd crash -.- 23.18.03 Join oKtosiTe [0] (n=oKtosiTe@unaffiliated/oKtosiTe) 23.18.08 # you end up in emergency disk mode. 23.18.10 # I never have and what program can be used? 23.18.18 # on linux you can use dd 23.18.29 # windows? 23.18.35 # no idea. 23.18.43 # try asking google ;-) 23.19.14 # but any disk editor should work fine 23.20.30 # am i right in thinking it has a non standard format? 23.22.09 # what do you mean by "non standard format"? 23.23.10 # bluebrother: reboot the ipod by holding down Menu + Select. When the apple logo comes up press Play + Select 23.23.16 # doesent work 23.23.33 # try flipping the hold switch on and off before resetting 23.23.49 # it needs to work -- it's a hardware function 23.23.51 # i come to the 'discmode' 23.24.00 # yes. 23.24.06 # that is where you want to go to 23.24.16 # is it colored or greyscale? 23.24.28 # ipod patcher sayes its empty 23.24.39 # robin0800: what are you talking about? 23.24.45 # greyscale its the ipl discmode 23.24.59 # the boot sector 23.25.11 # on color ipods the emergency disk mode is b/w 23.25.38 # robin0800: if ipodpatcher tells you the boot sector is empty then ... you messed up your disk completely 23.25.58 # but its the ipl discmode 23.26.14 # you are not referring to the hidden partition apple uses to store the firmware? 23.26.26 # Ph1r3ph0x_: how do youit's IPL disc mode? 23.26.37 # s/you/you know/ 23.26.52 # ?! 23.27.20 # yes that might be it as it starts at sector 63 23.27.22 # that's a regular expression. It just tells I missed a word 23.27.32 # what starts at sector 63? 23.27.37 # the first partition? 23.27.44 # the boot sector is always in sector 0 23.28.00 # what ipodpatcher says is empty 23.28.18 # can you pastebin the output somewhere? I really don't get what you mean 23.28.34 # Ph1r3ph0x_: if you have entered disk mode, try plugging in the ipod to USB and running ipodpatcher again. 23.29.41 # ok @Febs 23.29.48 Quit midgey () 23.31.22 # pate bin here http://pastebin.ca/423044 23.31.25 # the same bootloader, but i've downloaded itunes 23.32.46 Join Hoffmann_ [0] (n=ber@c-69-248-210-174.hsd1.de.comcast.net) 23.33.45 # robin0800: ah. So you're talking about the first partition. 23.34.00 # Ph1r3ph0x_: have you tried selecting the "u" option in ipodpatcher to uninstall the bootloader and then reinstalling it? 23.34.03 # that has the _type_ set to 0 (which equals to "empty") 23.34.36 # this doesn't say anything if the partition itself is empty or not (it's just a type that helps the OS to determine what's inside of the partition) 23.34.41 # could ipodpatcher be able to save and restore the boot partion 23.35.03 # and this is not the boot sector. The boot sector holds informations including the partition table which is listed by ipodpatcher 23.35.13 # tried ipodpatcher -h? 23.35.32 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 23.36.13 # but from what I see it doesn't save the boot sector, only the boot partition 23.36.26 # but unless you changed something to the boot sector this should be sufficient 23.36.30 Nick dionoea is now known as h1 (n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net) 23.36.40 Nick h1 is now known as dionoea (n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net) 23.36.43 Quit perl|work ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 23.37.10 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.37.29 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-232-143-223.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 23.37.58 Quit Hoffmann (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.38.04 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.38.20 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-232-143-223.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 23.44.25 # shit 23.44.55 # i have resetted my ipod via itunes and patched it 23.45.09 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@71.216.234.24) 23.45.10 Part Llorean 23.45.10 # but i forgot to copy rockbox on the ipod 23.45.21 # now everything is broken 23.45.24 # go to emergency disk mode and extract the build. 23.45.37 # nothing is broken. At least not badly. 23.45.51 # ahh 23.45.54 # ok 23.45.56 # puh 23.45.56 # ^^ 23.47.56 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 23.49.05 # Llorean: do you happen to know who else could fix the broken forum search (LinusN is in holidays)? 23.50.06 # pixelma: Anyone who can log into the actual server and run an sql command to repair the table, I believe. 23.50.22 # Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. Bagder? 23.50.43 # nope I can't 23.51.09 # everything works :D 23.51.15 # i'm soooooooooo happy 23.51.16 # thx 23.51.21 # you are great 23.51.24 # just been looking at ipodpatcher and yes it can read and write the bootpartion could these be added to auto screen and included in docs ? 23.51.51 # why is the boot sector of interest? 23.52.06 # the bootloader lives in the system partition anyway. 23.52.27 # and what do you want to "auto screen"? 23.53.40 # if people install a non rockbox boot loader tha breaks there ipod ipodpatchercould restore th backup and so remove it 23.53.41 # pixelma: Unfortunately, this sounds like it needs either LinusN to return, or Jeff from Misticriver can probably do it. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to reliably contact him. 23.54.08 # I can call LinusN tomorrow 23.54.09 # robin0800: If they've made a backup, iPodPatcher can be used to restore it, yes. 23.54.15 # But you can't restore a backup if they haven't made one. 23.54.23 # he has a laptop and wireless access 23.54.32 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 23.54.50 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.55.09 # well hence the change to the installation page tell them to make a backup 23.55.50 Quit jhulst (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.50 # robin0800: Why do they need a backup exactly? 23.56.16 # the bootloader doesn't live in the boot sector. 23.56.43 # well i think this might fix loader2 problems etc 23.57.03 # robin0800: So, maybe you should make the Loader2 people tell them to make a backup 23.57.30 # If someone installs loader2, makes a backup, and then installs Rockbox, they're still going to need a pre-loader2 firmware partition before they can have a "clean" rockbox install 23.57.38 # Any backup they make during our install process will be useless to them 23.57.49 # And the "firmware partition" is very different from "boot sector" 23.58.28 # which is the one ipodpatcher copies?