--- Log for 19.04.107 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 22 hours ago 00.00.36 # indeed 00.02.42 Quit moos ("") 00.04.15 Quit Spec[x] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.45 Quit SliMM (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.05.16 Quit x-spec-t (Connection reset by peer) 00.06.11 Join Soap2 [0] (n=Soap@65.23.15.14.nw.nuvox.net) 00.07.59 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.08.01 Quit Bawitdaba () 00.08.04 Quit zylche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.59 Quit mirak (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.09.12 Quit PaulJam (".") 00.09.35 Join Bawitdaba [0] (n=Sphinx@cpe-24-25-130-25.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.10.27 Join Spec [0] (n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec) 00.15.01 Quit Siltaar (Remote closed the connection) 00.15.32 Quit midgey () 00.15.48 # linuxstb, jhMikeS: where are the mpeg2_fbuf allocated ? 00.25.38 # dionoea: Somewhere inside libmpeg2... 00.26.08 # BTW, I've just tried your patch on my gigabeat - it flashed some subtitles up very quickly near the start of the video, and then my gigabeat froze completely... 00.26.17 # seriously? 00.26.31 # using the ed subs? 00.26.41 Join k0rnz [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-66-8-248-112.hawaii.res.rr.com) 00.26.54 # No, using my own video and srt file. 00.27.04 # anyone run rockbox on 5th Generation 30Gb Video Ipod? 00.27.53 # ah ... i only tried with the ed subs. Can you upload your srt file somewhere so i can see what's wrong ? 00.29.04 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/problem.srt - it may well be my srt file... 00.30.04 # Hum, looks ok to me up to item n°4 (I didn't do --> "no date" handling) 00.30.27 # each item has to have a start & end date on the date line 00.30.53 # Yes, I'm just testing in mplayer, and mplayer ignores subtitles with no end time. 00.31.16 # Any idea if end time is required in srt files? 00.31.39 # according to the comment in the VLC source code it is 00.31.52 # but since there are like 10 000 subs format ... i'm sure that some people say that it isn't 00.32.33 # But in any case, a hard crash isn't good... 00.32.49 # it's call SubRIP http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=SubRip 00.33.48 # linuxstb: agreed (as stated earlier, i didn't do error handling yet ... one of the reasons being that i didn't want to code strtol ... but i'll do it) 00.33.55 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.34.18 # s/call/called/ 00.34.35 # Well, if mplayer is failing to display my srt file, then I'm happy to accept it's bad... 00.35.05 # you can fix it using a simple awk script i guess 00.35.57 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 00.36.01 # Although if a sub should be displayed until the next one appears, what do I put for the end time? 00.36.12 # the next time 00.36.25 # But isn't that saying "display both subtitles at this time"? 00.36.42 # well substract 1ms then :) 00.37.46 Join scubacoles [0] (n=scoles@eth4699.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) 00.39.49 Quit MrStaticVoid (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.40.42 Quit Rincewind ("Cya") 00.44.57 Part TrueJournals 00.45.09 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 00.47.20 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 00.47.26 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 00.48.01 Quit drumr () 00.50.19 Part k0rnz 00.50.36 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 00.51.22 Quit ender` (" If you're feeling good, don't worry, you'll get over it.") 00.57.29 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.57.54 Quit juxtap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.58.48 Join webguest60666 [0] (i=415fb711@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5e973da054ab0b87) 00.59.00 Quit webguest60666 (Client Quit) 00.59.06 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.59.10 Join webguest60666 [0] (i=415fb711@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b3e42a3fbc36e192) 00.59.31 # dionoea: I fixed the timestamps, but it's still crashing in the same place and not displaying the early subtitles correctly - it just seems to scan through all the subtitles really fast... 00.59.38 # when is The Rockbox Utility going to be finished? 00.59.54 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 01.00.07 # Nothing in Rockbox has a timescale attached to it - people work on it in their free time. 01.00.08 # linuxstb: ah, it's using 1 digit only for the hour (i hardcoded that to 2 digits for hour, minute and sec) 01.00.23 # since atoi can't tell me how many it read 01.00.28 # which is why i need strtol 01.01.16 # the "specs" seem to require these 2 digits (although adding support for 1 only should be easy) 01.01.49 # linuxstb: it's the += 2+1; in the code (2 for the digits, 1 for the seperator) 01.02.16 # I think Rockbox has a sscanf, although it's not built by default but Doom uses it via a hack... 01.02.34 # ah ... that'd be awesome :) 01.02.39 # I was looking for one 01.02.46 Join aliask|uni [0] (i=82c20d68@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9649ce846844ed85) 01.02.52 # Look at how Doom uses it - it's not pretty... 01.03.13 Quit ompaul ("warning: missing joke!") 01.03.23 Quit entheh ("^~") 01.03.35 Join orzel93 [0] (i=cf60f3c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-733b56a3cc43ba72) 01.04.03 # else i can do something like: int foo( char *str, char **end ){ int r = 0; while( *str >= '0' && *str <= '9' ){ r*=10;r+=*str-'0'; } *end = str; } 01.04.07 # this should work 01.04.35 # and then use h = foo( cur, &cur ); cur++; (instead of the current atoi lines) 01.05.28 Join Ranbee [0] (n=iceni@80-47-251-83.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com) 01.05.40 # + *str++; at the end of the loop 01.05.44 # Now we have svn, we could just move sscanf into the plugin lib if it would help. It would at least remove the hack from doom 01.07.12 # hi, i want to update my rockbox for the first time, i have the 60GIG ipod video. do i just download the latest daily build and drop/replace all the files, and that's it? 01.07.21 # yup 01.07.35 # thanks, dionoea :0 01.07.41 # Although it depends when you first installed Rockbox. You may need to update your bootloader. 01.07.45 # *:) i always do that lol 01.07.56 # isn't this the first time ? :) 01.08.05 # linuxstb: about 3 weeks ago 01.08.09 Part scubacoles ("Leaving") 01.08.27 # Ranbee: Then no problem - the last bootloader was released a few months ago. 01.08.42 # great, thanks for the help linuxstb 01.10.45 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 01.10.49 # linuxstb: i fixed the atoi thing here (hopefuly) 01.10.51 Quit webguest60666 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.10.51 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.11.00 Quit roolku () 01.12.24 # can i keep my backdrops and themes directories to keep my themes, or is there a config file that goes with them? 01.12.42 # You can keep all your old files... just replace any new ones 01.12.56 # Did that make sense? 01.12.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.12.59 # ok, thanks TrueJournals 01.13.06 # No problem 01.15.21 # linuxstb: any idea where we first know about the video'z size (sequence->width/height) in mpegplayer.c ? Somewhere in the while(1) loop ? 01.17.18 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.18.34 # dionoea: It's where vo_setup() is called. 01.19.06 # thanks 01.21.46 Join joyrex [0] (n=blah@adsl-074-237-102-162.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.23.19 Quit midgey () 01.29.58 Part toffe82 01.31.47 # thanks for the help. i love rockbox xD 01.31.50 Part Ranbee 01.33.31 Join endor43 [0] (i=470bd309@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec747a7955bc95c1) 01.34.11 # Hi im very new to this forum so please feel free to correct me or anything.. 01.34.31 # i have a question 01.34.50 # i was browsing rockbox's website 's patches section and came across this patch for the 80 gig 5.5G ipod what does it do? 01.35.07 # will it possibly let me use rockbox on my 80 GB 5.5G and if so how do i use it? 01.35.26 # is it possible in any way to permanently damage your Ipod 80GB 5.5G by installing rockbox on it or using rockbox on it ? 01.36.04 Quit endor43 (Client Quit) 01.36.14 # Was just going to answer his question... 01.37.29 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-79-209.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 01.43.09 # TrueJournals: he asked the same in the forums - answer him there if you so desire ;) 01.43.22 # I was just going to look there :-p 01.45.55 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.53.38 Part TrueJournals 01.56.30 Quit gigapete ("CGI:IRC") 01.56.50 Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) 01.58.33 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 02.00.29 Quit orzel93 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.00.33 # Do the rockbox files need to be dropped directly to the root of my gigabeat or do I just copy the .rockbox folder there ? 02.01.06 Quit H10_007quick (Client Quit) 02.01.15 Quit aliask|uni ("CGI:IRC") 02.03.40 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-69-208-79-209.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 02.04.18 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-74-73-158-167.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.05.00 Part fiftyfour123 02.14.12 # kkurbjun: there? 02.15.12 # amiconn: around? 02.15.25 # lostlogic: thanks for fixing the ifdef btw...i was going to get around to it, but i got quite busy this week 02.16.55 Quit Soap2 ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 02.20.05 Quit joyrex () 02.20.55 Join Lam_ [0] (n=Lam@128.227.23.106) 02.22.45 Quit inversions (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.22.53 # i have a problem with my ipod mini 1G. the rockbox bootloader loads up fine but i forgot to install the .rockbox directory and it gives an error and tells me to either go into disk mode or restart itself, but regardless of the button combination i press, it's not responsive. i know it still functions though because i can flip the hold switch on and it tells me it's turned on 02.27.26 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-137-199-8.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 02.31.56 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.42.29 # yeah.. definitely need to get into disk mode somehow 02.48.07 # does anyone else here have a good understanding of amiconn's viewports idea? 02.49.09 Quit Hammer89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.49.19 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 02.58.55 Join Hammer89 [0] (n=soc_inte@host-24-149-166-187.patmedia.net) 03.06.33 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.07.39 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@pcp009946pcs.santa-lucia.reshall.calpoly.edu) 03.09.54 # I have a question that I'm wondering if some experienced CD purchasers may be able to help me with... has anyone dealt with Cactus Data Shield 100 before>? 03.12.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.56 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.18.56 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.29.39 Quit rift (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.30.29 Quit jaebird ("Leaving") 03.32.58 Quit MonkeyTamer ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 03.40.07 Quit sneakums (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.45.18 Join Soap2 [0] (n=Soap@65.23.15.14.nw.nuvox.net) 03.57.25 Join Soaa- [0] (n=chatzill@dsl-156-2.aei.ca) 03.58.06 # Hi everyone, I just tried hacking the flash of my gigabeat and I think something went really wrong. 03.58.22 # I described my problem in the thread about the hacks. 04.00.04 # Shoot, some moderator just deleted my posts. I don't know why. 04.00.26 # Oh oops, it was split. 04.07.30 Part pixelma 04.09.25 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (i=82c20d67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-01668f187bd4e130) 04.09.42 # hey all 04.10.55 # Hi there. 04.10.59 Join Topy44 [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-81-173-159-164.netcologne.de) 04.11.40 Join Stalwart^ [0] (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 04.12.17 Join capo [0] (n=itguy@c-24-13-108-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.13.05 Join sneakums [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 04.23.20 Quit pearldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.23.51 Quit Stalwart (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.26.01 # Also, Soaa- be careful of your usage of the word "brick" it has a specific, and emotionally charged, meaning. 04.26.22 # My gigabeat was "bricked". 04.26.35 Quit preglow (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.26.35 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.28.41 Quit JdGordon|uni ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.29.33 Quit Topy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.15 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 04.30.25 *** Server message 505: 'logbot- :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 04.30.35 # Soaa-: Even if it was, apparently your bricking has nothing to do with Rockbox. 04.45.09 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.49.17 Nick Llorea1 is now known as Llorean (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 04.49.27 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.57.22 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 04.58.51 NHeal (timeout) kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.01.30 Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) 05.01.52 Quit H10_007quick (Client Quit) 05.07.48 Quit capo () 05.13.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.19.28 Quit SirFunk (Remote closed the connection) 05.23.58 Quit Soaa- ("ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 05.34.11 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz) 05.43.19 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) 05.52.44 Part Hammer89 06.01.19 Join scubacoles [0] (n=scoles@eth4699.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) 06.02.15 # totally off topic, can anyone here translate Turkish? 06.03.53 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@63-228-97-69.tukw.qwest.net) 06.05.21 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.18 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.19.09 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.20.37 Part Lam_ 06.21.56 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.22.13 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@host-69-59-127-198.nctv.com) 06.24.28 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 06.24.28 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.26.01 # hmm. today's build crashes often 06.27.19 Quit grndslm (Remote closed the connection) 06.28.06 # Br3nda: Do you actually mean the daily build, or do you mean a current build downloaded at a specific time today? As well, what player do you have, and what circumstances cause crashes? 06.28.44 Nick Stalwart^ is now known as Stalwart (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 06.39.27 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.39.42 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.39.47 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4DD7.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.45.39 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.53.06 Join Naked_ [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.53.15 Nick Naked_ is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.53.59 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 06.59.00 Quit rotator () 07.00.57 Quit Naked (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 07.07.04 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.07.15 Part toffe82 07.07.23 Join ozgur [0] (i=444b1d07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-691271d19271c719) 07.07.43 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-34-34-187.asm.bellsouth.net) 07.08.28 # can an able-minded person tell me what the "tagnavi.config" file does? 07.09.01 # wanting to know if i have to replace it w/ a new one, or if its the pref file for my id3's, which i dont wanna index again 07.12.55 # it controls how you use the database... 07.13.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.16.37 Part ozgur 07.17.28 Join RockBoxTTS [0] (i=444b1d07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e518e0d0b5603464) 07.17.54 Part RockBoxTTS 07.18.29 Join TTS4RB [0] (i=444b1d07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-22d2cbb25aa7cddc) 07.19.18 # so i should update it every time? its not the file that stores id3 tags 07.20.28 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.20.37 Part TTS4RB 07.20.58 Join TTS4RB [0] (i=444b1d07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c8c28bcef4462338) 07.21.20 Part TTS4RB 07.26.57 Quit scubacoles ("Leaving") 07.31.31 # dan_a: you around? 07.33.05 Quit Llorean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.40.55 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549678D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.44.41 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit) 07.45.33 # can someone tell me what file load_raw_firmware is defined at? 07.46.15 # nm 07.47.54 Quit Br3nda ("places to go, servers to break") 07.51.46 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 08.02.52 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 08.05.38 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17A1F.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.07.10 # anyone know what stage sysfont.h is made? 08.07.13 # in make? 08.09.24 # firmware/Makefile, lines 45f 08.09.33 Part norbusan 08.10.00 # linuxstb: r u there? 08.12.02 # amiconn: moving files around in the /target folder shouldnt stop it from being built right? 08.12.39 # it doesnt get built when I try a h10 build, but it does for sansa 08.20.09 # waa, getting data aborts on install :/ 08.22.44 Join c0mpub0mb [0] (n=house@unaffiliated/compubomb) 08.23.55 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.25.15 # what is the newest stable build for the ipod video 5g ? 08.25.48 # i tried downloading the newest builds for my ipod video g5 and i couldn't play a single file without rockbox locking up on me :/ 08.26.13 Join t3 [0] (i=4c699190@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aeaab848d93fc096) 08.26.41 # can someone help, im trying to download a source from a SVN... 08.27.33 # helo? 08.27.59 Join Bagder_ [0] (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-497eb6ce493d8153) 08.28.02 Part t3 08.28.05 Nick Bagder_ is now known as B4gder (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-497eb6ce493d8153) 08.28.39 # good morning! 08.29.23 # morning 08.29.45 # who stole B4gder?? since when do we get morning instead of mooning? 08.30.06 # and why the heck is the h10 refusing to make sysfont.h :'( 08.31.25 # my g5 keeps locking up with the newst build :/ everything upto http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodvideo/rockbox-ipodvideo-20070415.zip, the only one i know of which works perfectly without a hitch is rockbox-ipodvideo-20061018 08.34.38 # c0mpub0mb: update your bootloader 08.35.14 # * B4gder puts a "moo"-sticker on JdGordon to prove his true self 08.35.29 # awesome :D 08.35.48 # now don't eat it all at once :-) 08.35.48 # GodEater: bootloader ?.. uhm.. the new OS boots, just when i go into file, and play a mp3, it just hangs, it loads the file etc, it just doesn't play anything, it just hangs there. 08.36.14 # B4gder: oh, do you know why the code to allow the backlight hold setting on the sansa has been #if 0'd out since intial commit? the code works fine 08.36.30 # JdGordon: I don't know 08.36.48 # I just talk, I don't actually know anything 08.36.56 # ok 08.37.05 # hopefully dan_a pops in later 08.37.15 # yeah, he's been gone a while 08.37.48 # GodEater: so your saying i need a new bootloader for the ipod ?... 08.37.49 # c0mpub0mb: that's because you're using an old bootloader which isn't compatible with the latest version of rockboxc 08.37.56 # i mean, it boots the new rockbox os. 08.38.03 # c0mpub0mb: yes - but not properly 08.38.09 # GodEater: ugh! i don't even remember how to do everything. 08.38.19 # c0mpub0mb: that's what we have the manual for 08.38.21 # i set this stuff up a long time ago. 08.38.31 # c0mpub0mb: go back to the section which mentions ipodpatcher 08.38.35 # and follow it through 08.38.38 # and you're good to go 08.38.52 Quit lini (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.38.53 # the tatung tpj1022 is a pp target yeah? 08.39.02 # GodEater: where is that ? 08.39.31 # JdGordon: yes 08.39.51 # c0mpub0mb: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.3 08.40.08 # c0mpub0mb: make sure you've downloaded the latest version of ipodpatcher too 08.40.40 Nick MikeSeth is now known as MikeSeth[YearZer (n=mst@unaffiliated/mikeseth) 08.40.49 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 08.40.49 Nick MikeSeth[YearZer is now known as MikeSeth[y0] (n=mst@207.230.28.35) 08.43.13 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host28-216-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.44.00 # JdGordon: 'mooning' was me, sometimes. And I don't know why your h10 build doesn't make sysfont.h 'cause I don't know what you changed. Builds fine in svn. 08.44.11 # Or rather, mo0ning ;) 08.44.34 # oh? woopsies :p 08.44.43 # do you still need the file rockbox.ipod ? in your root dir ? 08.45.00 # since the new versions of rockbox don't have that file in their zip files 08.45.11 # Ive rearragned files in /target and fixed up SOURCES and configure accordingly, h10 doesnt work, but e200 and tatung both work 08.45.20 # c0mpub0mb: they do, it just moved 08.45.44 # hmm.. no, tatung doesnt work either 08.46.06 # * amiconn isn't sure whether the tatung ever built 08.46.25 # I mean sysfont doesnt build for it 08.46.30 # bloody odd :p 08.47.05 # One of those prepared-but-almost-done-nothing targets by linuxstb 08.47.31 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 08.47.36 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 08.48.17 Join David_ [0] (n=chatzill@r236060042.resnet.cornell.edu) 08.49.29 # the bootloader built at least 08.49.37 # Can't see hidden folders in toshiba gigabeat F series root folder in windows vista - any suggestions? (folder options have show hidden on) 08.49.43 # it has served for other mi4-targets to test-run 08.50.03 # it worked, but i still think the treble doesn't truely work on the ipod 5g 08.50.04 # :/ 08.50.35 # David_: get yourself a decent operating system like linux ;) 08.51.25 Nick David_ is now known as DavidL (n=chatzill@r236060042.resnet.cornell.edu) 08.52.12 # doesn't help - closest linux computer is hours away this time of the night and don't feel like burning some cds -_- is there any1 experienced w/ gigabeat rockbox installation on windows? 08.53.16 # i cant look coz i dont have windows but isnt there another check box like 'show system files' as well as 'hidden files'? 08.54.00 # On winxp there is. Don't know about vista 08.54.30 # yeah the little i have used vista it seemed a bit counter intuitive 08.54.47 # almost like they didnt want you to fiddl with the settings 08.54.50 # i unchecked the hide protected os files, still nothing -_- 08.54.55 # DavidL: you also need to enable "View system folders" 08.56.11 # if you get a dos windows up (by selecting 'run' then typing 'cmd') iirc does dir/h list hidden files. 08.57.38 # ahh i see. need to unhide both os files and hidden files and not use the dock. thanks :) 08.57.48 # that should be in the guide .. 08.58.16 # i guess thats down to who has Vista right now, maybe you could make the changes yourself in the wiki 08.58.26 # yea i'll probably do that 08.59.28 # does the ipod 5g support treble at all ? 09.00.17 # davina: It's dir /ah 09.00.18 # there is an equaliser somewhere. i;venot used it. i think there is also a setting to use hardware equaliser. have a look in the settings 09.01.42 # thx amiconn :) i was going to start up my virtual dos environment and check it out, but i need to get ready for work :( 09.01.47 Join lachlan [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3745d648d6e8a835) 09.02.01 Quit lachlan (Client Quit) 09.02.16 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 09.02.54 Join lachlan [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c1af1c8cb5db6a46) 09.04.08 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 09.05.28 # * dan_a waves at JdGordon 09.06.00 # is that a dan_a crawling in here? ;-) 09.06.25 # It is :) 09.06.40 # good to see you back! 09.08.40 # Thank you. I'm probably not going to be doing too much on Rockbox in the next few days, but I will be getting back into it 09.09.11 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-70-235-180-86.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 09.09.34 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e5d9454952b2131c) 09.11.10 # And unfortunately I'm don't think I'm going to be able to make DevCon :( 09.11.43 # that's a pity 09.13.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.13.55 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c58718b07afdd6c1) 09.15.10 Quit petur (Client Quit) 09.15.34 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-63778298069e3195) 09.16.03 # * petur slaps firefox *hard* 09.16.34 # you seem to do that often 09.17.10 # since the last two updates it crashes way too much for me 09.17.20 # Use Opera instead, its a great browser 09.17.23 # i have never had it crash on me 09.17.35 # * scorche stuffs lachlan into a corner 09.19.13 # * amiconn never experienced a firefox crash since v. 1.5 09.19.29 # lucky you 09.19.33 # And I usually have 20+ tabs open 09.19.44 # i am usually more like 30 09.20.01 # i cant imagine life without tabbed browsing now 09.20.04 # did you guys know there's close button on each tab? ;-] 09.20.17 # * amiconn switched that off 09.20.21 # haha 09.20.24 # B4gder: not on mine...i changed that to the old behavior in about:config 09.20.42 # I like the old, standard method way more, with the close button in the top right corner of the tab area 09.20.55 # Takes less space, and the place to click doesn't change per tab 09.20.57 # same....which is why i changed that ;) 09.21.17 # when you have that many tabs open, you cant see the name because the close button blocked it 09.21.28 # * amiconn uses Tab Mix Plus for a few more tab-related features 09.21.49 # amiconn: stop reading my mind and typing them out! 09.21.51 # * annulus_ does too 09.22.06 # I've had tab in the 100s 09.22.21 # i get very sad when firefox crashes... 09.22.25 # why do you have that many tabs open? 09.22.36 # Don't you need google to search your tabs? 09.22.41 # why not just reload the page again? 09.22.52 # annulus_: session manager 09.22.59 # 100s is a bit excessive 09.23.09 # scorche. yeah when it works. and sometimes i just want to check the weather! 09.23.10 # when i get to 40, i book mark them all and close them 09.23.29 # yeah, except i want to read some stuff "later" 09.24.00 # and any visit to wikipedia tends to lead to like 20 tabs being opened 09.24.11 # ? 09.24.32 # he is referring to this effect ;) http://xkcd.com/c214.html 09.25.05 # yes! 09.25.26 # I can see why it leads to clicking, but not why it would lead to more tabs... 09.25.40 # you mean there are then 20 pages to "read later" ? 09.25.50 # B4gder, multiple links from each page. combinatorial explosion 09.25.51 # I guess I'm just old or something 09.25.55 # if he never closed them...but 100 is a bit on the overblown side... 09.26.04 # annulus_: links don't imply a new tab in my world 09.26.20 # the web is filled with links 09.26.27 # firefox must take up around 750,000k of memory then.. 09.28.16 # sure. but i'm interested in everything 09.28.39 # that isnt any excuse to leave the tabs open... 09.29.11 # indeed... 09.29.11 # its not like the wikipedia articles are likely to just vanish when you look away 09.29.38 # but hey, whatever works for you 09.29.40 # 501 219 1 0 97 0 1407752 468192 - Rs ?? 3261:33.18 ap 111.8 -22.3 Fri06PM /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin -psn_0_1966081 -foreground 09.29.46 # * B4gder goes poking on his SPI 09.30.02 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 09.30.18 # B4gder, sure but I can't really bookmark them either, that'd just be a huge headache 09.30.54 # annulus_: when you grow older you'll find the "back" button ;-) 09.31.00 # another big link whore is mathworld 09.32.44 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 09.38.10 Join mbr [0] (n=mbr@p3EE06959.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.39.12 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.41.00 Quit davina ("byeeeeee!") 09.42.31 Quit DavidL ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 09.44.46 Quit EbErT () 09.45.12 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-2d4beef8c3503702) 09.49.18 Join cadu [0] (i=cadu___@ZS116165.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 09.49.30 # hello, i'm here to ask some guidelines/advice on translating 09.50.07 # i'm having some kind of a trouble on translating 'Fade-In' 'Fade-Out' to my language (portuguese) 09.50.53 # can't find a word or even a small combination of words that fits in the space nicely, would end up with gigantic strings anyway :( 09.51.35 Part B4gder 09.52.01 # example: in "Fade-In Delay" i'm thinking in writing 'silêncio->música: tempo de espera' 09.52.21 # that would mean 'silence-to-music : wait/delay period' 09.52.56 # people would get it, so any problem in putting 'arrows' on a string ? :P 09.53.29 # do you need the "tempo de espera" bit ? 09.53.38 # woudln' they infer that from the fact that the setting is in seconds ? 09.54.23 # well 09.54.50 # if i wrote 'silence -> músic' only they would think at first that this is the duration of the fade-in 09.55.04 # s/músic/music/ :) 09.56.01 # I'm just playing devil's advocate here - I don't know portuguese at all so I'm not sure what liberties you can take with it 09.56.43 # and if i just quit and put 'fade-in' 'fade-out' on the strings the tech people (people that care using rockbox) would probably understand, but that's not the point (making rockbox a pandora's box filled with technical terms in foreign language that only geeks can grasp) :) 09.57.14 # ehehhehehe, and i'm only at 27% at the .lang file :P long road 09.57.36 # hey dan_a, is there any reason the backlight on hold code in the sansa button.c has been #if 0'd since commit? 09.58.20 # GodEater: anyway thanks :) i'll just stick with the '->' :P 09.59.03 # GodEater: btw i'm striving for only a minimal of loan words 09.59.23 # JdGordon: Probably a copy and paste error - I can't recall any problems with it. 09.59.43 Join Bagder_ [0] (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-497eb6ce493d8153) 09.59.50 # thats what I thought, I uncommented if and it works fine 09.59.55 Nick Bagder_ is now known as B4gder (i=dast@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-497eb6ce493d8153) 10.00.19 # JdGordon: Then commit! :D 10.00.25 # * dan_a runs off to work 10.00.39 # will do :) 10.00.58 # GodEater: anyway i'm putting some FIXMEs in the lang file, just in case in future i have some enlightenment and some nicer string pops up in my head :P 10.01.00 # cadu: no problem ;) 10.01.07 # good plan 10.01.24 # right now is 'understandable/passable' :P) 10.01.35 # us english users are terribly spoilt with our vocabulary that we don't mind stealing and pillaging from other languages ;) 10.02.01 # or just making up as we go along 10.02.01 # GodEater: ahahaha, do you know Japanese? :P 10.02.13 # A word or two, nothing more. 10.02.32 # haha, somebody bothered to update the ReleaseTodo wikipage 10.02.49 # GodEater: people here are forgetting their own language 10.03.14 # they get a 'Dorinkku' at their 'Sunakku Pabus Baa'' 10.03.24 # (Drink) (Snack/Pub Bar :P) 10.03.30 # Miruku (Milk) 10.03.30 # * GodEater searches for the blankest looking smiley ever 10.03.40 # ah ok I get it 10.03.59 # I should have sounded it out loud 10.04.01 # and goes on, even HAVING the home language counterparts, the fuckers insist in using loanwords coz it looks nice :) 10.04.09 # they sound smart speaking 'english' :) 10.04.10 # hehe 10.04.29 # like 'hairo' (grey).... people here use 'gurei' all the fscking time :) 10.04.50 # I think my g/f knows more Japanese than me - it's a proper second language choice at school in New Zealand where she's from 10.04.56 # it wasn't offered in the UK 10.05.03 # hence I barely know any 10.05.12 # I think what I do know I picked up from reading Shogun 10.05.17 # eheheheh 10.05.30 # and that's probably wrong ;) 10.05.50 # wakarimasu or something 10.05.51 # like, anything not made of bamboos and wood uses 'katakana' (loanwords/whatever) here 10.05.56 # * B4gder once read shogun 10.06.10 # neat book, if a little gruesome 10.06.22 # likem untensha (people that drives, raw translation)..... people insist in using DORAIBAA 10.06.34 # hahaha 10.06.37 # I like it 10.06.43 # anyway Doraibaa is also used (obviously) as doraibaa, the tool. >) 10.07.05 # here is the mish-mash language hell :) 10.07.06 # as in (thinks for a second) sekurudoraibba 10.07.08 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@63-228-97-69.tukw.qwest.net) 10.07.15 # yup! 10.07.17 # HAHAHAHAHA! 10.07.21 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-d3de642d97792d49) 10.07.30 # neat, I speak Japanese now ;) 10.07.49 # just grab the easy words, put vowels on the middle of every syllabe, and you're done! 10.07.53 # japanese 101! 10.08.36 # I might survive a holiday to Tokyo after all 10.09.05 # what gives me the nerves is that people at television/talk shows/newspapers USE english words like 'i'm the smart one' and then on a sidenote there's the explanation of the english word he just used, so not-so-bright people can grasp it 10.09.23 # the guy could have used the japanese word from the start :P 10.09.58 # like 'komunikeshion' (communication) 10.16.51 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3052.gwdg.de) 10.19.40 Join bluebrother [0] (i=0zDR4lKy@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.20.21 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 10.23.04 Join cadu_ [0] (i=cadu___@ZS116165.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 10.37.11 Quit PaulJam (".") 10.37.58 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 10.38.36 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3052.gwdg.de) 10.41.22 Quit cadu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.45.23 Join rift [0] (n=rift@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net) 10.45.25 Join brun0_ [0] (n=brun0_@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 10.47.39 Join crop [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f7519017d855a3d2) 10.49.05 # Is it possible (and legal ;-) to call RB funcs other than those in plugin_api in a plugin? 10.49.14 # nope 10.49.28 # it is possible but not "legal" 10.49.39 Join combrains [0] (n=combrain@125.237.191.39) 10.49.46 # crop: if you need a function, add it to the API 10.49.47 # if you lack a function there you should rather add it to the plugin.h first 10.49.58 # ... and plugin.c 10.50.00 Quit combrains (Client Quit) 10.51.46 # why it isn't legal, what's the downside of doing so? 10.52.06 # dont you get linking errors if you try it? 10.52.07 # the downside is that the plugin becomes very fixed to that particular rockbox build 10.52.30 # the plugin api is designed to allow rockbox to change somewhat and still have working plugins 10.53.03 # not that it is a very big drawback since we build and ship them together always 10.53.09 # is anyone else having problems with playback where playback stalls for maybe half a second about 40s into playback, and then goes along playing fine? 10.53.27 # only happens on my h300, not the sansa :( 11.02.46 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@dhcp-892b9a54.ucd.ie) 11.03.01 # hey barrywardell 11.04.06 # hey 11.04.20 # did you end up doing anything with moving the pp targets around? 11.04.44 # you mean moving files in the target tree? 11.04.49 # yeah 11.04.52 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.04.53 # I looked at it at one stage 11.05.06 # moving all the *-pp.c stuff inside a pp folder 11.05.31 # but hadn't got to the stage of having anything to commit 11.05.58 # ok, well I was bored this arvo, so I moved the sansa, h10 and tatung targets, (and the generic -pp.*) but for some reason the h10 and tatung failed to build after the moved. sysfont.h didnt get created! 11.06.24 # hmmm. i've come across sysfont.h problems before 11.06.33 # did you use a clean build dir? 11.06.48 # did veryclean and reconfiure a dozen times 11.07.01 # have you got a patch I can try? 11.08.35 # the patch shows all the moved files like they were deleted only, so i dont know if it will work 11.08.54 # if I try svn add on the new files it says they are already in the repo ? 11.09.11 # weird 11.09.14 # JdGordon: did you update firmware/SOURCES ? 11.09.19 # LinusN, B4gder: sorry, I was off a bit. The func I'm thinking about is rather special so I'm not sure whether the plugin_api should be changed because of that. 11.09.24 # markun: yep, and tools/confgure 11.09.30 # and firmare/*.lds 11.09.44 # barrywardell: http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/changes.patch 11.09.45 # crop what is it then? 11.10.57 # hmm... doing svn commit shows the files would be moved correctly.. so I dunno.. 11.10.59 # JdGordon: what's "target/coldfire/portalplayer" supposed to be? 11.11.04 # ipods should be included in the move too? 11.11.07 # a mistke :p 11.11.21 # barrywardell: I dont know... it will just make that folder more of a mess 11.11.42 # but the ipod uses a lot of the *-pp.* files 11.11.56 # LinusN: I wanted to make id3 tag parsing more flexible to allow e.g. for a plugin that would display the lyrics (or other tags not in mp3entry), see yesterday's irc log 11.12.46 # Thus I'd like to make parse_mp3_metadata (or what's the name of the function?) available to plugins 11.12.54 # JdGordon: did you "svn mv" the directories? 11.13.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.13.12 # markun: looks like kate really fucked up the coldfire targets.. good thign you saw them :) and yes 11.13.28 # I did that as well for the Gigabeat and had some problems with that 11.13.35 # crop: sure, why not? 11.14.02 # crop: we have no rules or guidelines for what functions can be in the plugin api or not 11.14.08 # JdGordon: when I created new directories, added them, "svn mv"-d the files there and removed the original directories it worked fine 11.14.12 # if a function is needed, we add it 11.14.18 # LinusN: is it worth enlarging the api? 11.14.29 # yes, if a plugin needs it 11.14.41 # the api size is of no concern 11.14.47 # LinusN: the more funcs you habe in the api the more fragile the code in plugin.c gets 11.14.55 # why so? 11.15.22 # ...since the structure is initialised by the order of the fields, not by their names 11.15.30 # and? 11.16.09 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3026.gwdg.de) 11.16.14 # LinusN: it's very easy to break the order. And this will be (probably) hard to find 11.16.33 # Won't that give compiler errors (types of functions being different) ? 11.16.49 # crop: we have had it like this for many years now, and we haven't had any big problems with that yet 11.16.59 # * linuxstb can't remember any problems 11.17.08 # Isn't the order equally breakable no matter how many there are, as long as that number is >2? 11.17.09 # barrywardell: :'( it was mistakes in find/replace which stopped sysfont.h being made... lemme fix this all and il put up a new patch 11.17.18 # * JdGordon thanks markun for spotting it 11.17.30 # and we only add new functions last in the struct 11.17.45 # ok, cool 11.17.49 # LinusN: ok, then I'll try. But later. I can only chime in here from time to time but have no time to actually write code. 11.17.57 # JdGordon: make sure you do the move correctly and not just delete all the files from SVN.. 11.18.13 # markun: i did it with svn move... so should be all good 11.18.20 # does "svn st" show you that the files are being added? 11.18.26 # i wonder why it was complaining about sysfont.h when it was a completely different problem? 11.18.48 # markun: yes 11.19.05 # barrywardell: I got the same error when I didn't update SOURCES correctly, didn't try to figure out why 11.20.13 # markun: yes, I think that's when I got problems in the past too 11.21.32 # linuxstb: is tpj1022 an ok name for that target? or should it be tatung-tpj1022 like iriver-h10 ? 11.22.59 Nick MikeSeth[y0] is now known as MikeSeth (n=mst@207.230.28.35) 11.23.11 # http://rafb.net/p/INxEft17.html is the what target/arm would look like after commit 11.23.16 # * JdGordon back in 20... dinner 11.28.01 Join scubacoles [0] (n=scubacol@122.49.151.111) 11.28.51 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3037.gwdg.de) 11.30.05 # I wonder why CVS was changed to SVN here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/ReleaseTodo?rev1=37;rev2=36 11.30.24 # it would maybe be good to moe crt0-pnx0101.S into the iriver folder (and possibly rename that folder) 11.30.27 # * petur too 11.31.00 # and the system-pnx0101.c 11.31.03 # barrywardell: better to have a pnx0101 folder, no? 11.31.14 # yeah, I think so 11.31.15 # markun: 10.02.32 # haha, somebody bothered to update the ReleaseTodo wikipage 11.31.26 # petur: missed that :) 11.32.08 # and what's the difference between system-arm.h and system-target.h? 11.32.11 # Maybe I will change it back to CVS :) 11.32.32 # barrywardell: shall I do the pnx0101 move? 11.32.48 # yeah, go for it! 11.33.19 # Shouldn't the ipods also be under portalplayer? 11.33.34 # (I'm looking at JdGordon's pastebin) 11.35.50 # linuxstb: see my comment 20 minutes ago - i agree with you :) 11.37.10 Quit obo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.39.01 Join jhgg [0] (i=joe@host86-134-238-224.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) 11.40.33 # Hi, the nimbus12 font has a bug: the euro sign is at position/encoding 164 (A1) while it should be at 8364 (20AC). Is this worth a bugreport on flyspray? 11.41.43 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.42.24 Quit scubacoles (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.42.59 Quit jhgg (Client Quit) 11.45.09 # PaulJam_: better just fix it :) 11.47.14 # linuxstb: well, if we move ipod in also it makes that folder worse... but yeah 11.47.53 # how does it make it worse? 11.48.10 # is it not just 1 extra folder? 11.49.11 # ok, well not really that bad 11.50.42 # hmm.. should ipod be split into ipod-3g ipod-video, ipod-mini etc? or keep them all together? 11.52.04 # most of them are common 11.52.28 # markun: i'm not going to post a patch if thats what you mean. 11.52.34 # ok 11.52.44 # Or I can just edit it myself and commit the fix 11.53.16 # JdGordon: I think just moving the ipod directory as is to inside the portalplayer dir 11.53.27 # PaulJam_: what should 164 be? 11.53.33 # have to remove the 2 subfolders though 11.54.03 # why? 11.54.26 # so we dont have to fiddle with any more scripts... 11.54.38 # include dirs only looks 3 deep in the /target folder 11.54.56 # in that case, then i'd go for a common ipod folder 11.55.17 # and maybe later someone can look at making it go 4 folders deep 11.55.17 # righto 11.55.40 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.55.41 # that could be useful for other targets too. h10 has 5GB and 20GB 11.55.46 # markun: 8364 (hexadecimal: 20AC) according to this page: http://www.utf8-zeichentabelle.de/unicode-utf8-table.pl 11.55.47 # gigabeat F and X 11.56.21 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54849991.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.56.56 # PaulJam_: I usually look at unicode.org 11.57.56 # back in an hour or so 11.58.21 # PaulJam_: ah, 00A1 should be "EXCLAMATION MARK, INVERTED" 11.59.59 # markun: oh, sorry 164 is A4 in hex 12.00.24 # ah yes :) 12.00.40 # hmmm *PANIC* Blocking violation B->*T 12.01.58 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 12.02.20 # markun: btw, the nimbus14 font seems to have tha same issue. 12.02.25 # LinusN: I think adding a 4th level to the paths is probaly a good thing to do anyway, can I change t_model to t_family and then the 4th level would be t_model? (eg arm/pp/ipod/3g) ? 12.07.20 Quit crop ("CGI:IRC") 12.08.09 # JdGordon: so it would be cpu/family/manufacturer/model? 12.08.23 # yeah 12.08.34 # the last one would be optional though 12.09.19 # no... cpu/manufucturer/family/model 12.09.34 # ok 12.10.26 # the ifp target doesn't compile, right? 12.10.44 # JdGordon: you mean that family would be optional? 12.11.13 # http://rafb.net/p/J5a0nG39.html 12.11.18 # markun: It has in the past, it didn't the last time I checked (month, month and a half ago, roughly) 12.11.43 # Llorean: I'll just commit the target tree move then 12.12.03 # JdGordon: how would it be in the iriver coldfire h-series case? 12.12.50 # no change... should t_model be something like exta_dir or something instead? 12.13.43 # I thought the only problems were in arm with all the pp targets? coldfire targets should be left along 12.13.43 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 12.13.46 # alone* 12.19.47 # LinusN: so its OK? 12.23.44 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@207-237-224-214.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 12.24.15 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 12.26.42 # LinusN: it would be nice if the target and drivers directories could somehow be combined I think 12.27.15 # because for some components like RTC they can be part of the SoC 12.27.51 # otoh, maybe those should just be moved into the target tree.. 12.29.05 # drivers should be for chips and hw that can exist on basically any target 12.29.13 # yes 12.29.26 # if they're tightly associated with a specific target, it should go in the target tree imho 12.29.58 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.31.17 # ok, im commiting unless someone says STOP! 12.31.59 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3016.gwdg.de) 12.32.07 # B4gder: what do you think about the driver/ata*.c files? They look more like something that should be in firmware (like ubs*.c) 12.32.10 # usb even 12.32.33 # or usb*.c should maybe be moved? 12.34.12 # I have no real opinion on those 12.34.26 # and tuner_*.c 12.35.38 Join himitsu [0] (n=himitsu@61.213.185.37) 12.36.40 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.38.53 # B4gder: is it ok if I clean up firmware/drivers a bit by making 'audio' and 'lcd' subdirs? 12.39.59 # markun: dont move lcd*... hopefulyl that will encourage amiconn to merge them all.... 12.40.09 # ok 12.40.26 # well, personally i don't see a problem with the current layout/population 12.40.54 # JdGordon: i don't understand 12.41.04 # which part? 12.41.27 # JdGordon: the current iriver layout is coldfire/iriver/h100 12.42.05 # cpu=coldfire, manufacturer=iriver, model=h100 12.42.13 # what would it be with your change? 12.42.38 # would h100 be the family then? 12.42.43 # yeah 12.42.47 # maybe the names are wrong 12.43.08 # keep model as model, and add a new level "optional" or "specific" or something? 12.43.27 # Well, H100 is valid as "family" too. 12.43.32 # could be 12.44.05 # with h120 and h100 specific sub dirs? 12.44.16 # maybe not 12.44.21 # family could be "h-series" 12.44.33 # hxxx series 12.44.48 # Well, I guess h10 is in ARM anyway 12.44.57 # please remind me, what problem are we trying to solve? 12.45.05 # I have no clue 12.45.06 # h[13][24]0 series ;-) 12.45.10 # I just walked in on it. 12.45.17 # portalplayer targets being everywhere in /arm.. I tihnk... 12.45.19 # something like that 12.45.28 # barrywardell's idea :p 12.46.56 Part c0mpub0mb 12.48.21 # i guess the best structure would be arm/pp/sansa/e200 or something? 12.48.49 # LinusN: yes, that's what we were thinking 12.49.18 # with pp being the "family", i.e cpu family? 12.49.38 # or pp == "platform"? 12.50.32 # does svn move move subdirs? when I use it on a folder it doesnt seem to list the files/subdirs in the folder as added 12.50.59 # LinusN: that could work better... 12.51.17 # how would that translate to the other targets? 12.51.31 # m68k/coldfire/iriver/h100 ? 12.52.31 # that makes sense 12.52.37 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp48-102.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 12.52.42 # I like that better 12.52.46 # platform would be optional... no need to add an extra level to sh/coldfire imo 12.52.53 # they arnt problems like arm is 12.53.02 # Does the extra level hurt anything? 12.53.09 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 12.53.15 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 12.53.16 # and for gigabeat, it would be arm/samsung/toshiba/gigabeatF ? 12.53.17 # JdGordon: but then the directory hierarchy would be confusing 12.53.17 # no, but it makes it more annoying browsing the tree 12.53.32 # on the contrary 12.53.45 # you would know exactly what each level means 12.53.57 # yeah, consistency is good 12.54.13 # B4gder: no arm/s3c2440/gigabeat/fx 12.54.15 # B4gder: the kenwoods use the same SoC so that's why I moved it into a s3c2440 dir 12.54.59 # gigabeat/fx really ? 12.55.26 # or gigabeat-fx 12.55.48 # ... which is what it is in svn now. 12.55.48 # if "ipod" and "iriver" would be used, I figure it would be "toshiba" for gigabeat 12.56.09 # B4gder: and "apple" 12.56.16 # yeah, it just struck me 12.56.18 # so arm/s3c2440/toshiba/gigabeat-fx 12.56.26 # So arm/s3c2440/Toshiba/Gigabet-FX? 12.56.30 # arm/pp/apple/ipod3g 12.56.33 # :) 12.56.49 # markun: well, thats no good if you end up neeing seperate folders for them 12.57.03 Quit Jon-Kha ("leaving") 12.57.06 # JdGordon: The F and X can be split later, right? 12.57.13 # exactly 12.57.17 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-69-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 12.57.25 # in fact, we couldn't care less that the gigabeat is manufactured by toshiba 12.57.42 # LinusN: but we don't care about iriver or apple either... 12.58.01 # "iriver" couold just as well be "H-series" 12.58.08 # hxxx you mean ;-) 12.58.12 # blabla 12.58.40 # yeah, so arm/s3c2440/gigabeat/fx then 12.58.51 # arm/pp/ipod/3g 12.59.18 # arch / platform / series / model 12.59.31 # * JdGordon back in 40 12.59.35 # sounds fine 13.00.00 # series could be something like "iriver-hxxx" 13.00.09 # yes sure 13.01.38 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3077.gwdg.de) 13.07.14 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 13.08.14 Quit rift ("Lost terminal") 13.09.31 Quit brun0_ ("Au revoir!") 13.09.44 Join rift [0] (n=opera@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net) 13.13.03 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.13.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.36.31 # is it hard to install to install rockbox on ipod using windows? harder than using linux? 13.36.37 Join Luse [0] (n=L@ip-210-185-12-57.internet.co.nz) 13.36.45 # It's rather easy for both 13.37.15 # * JdGordon back 13.37.28 # i want to try out 1.3.1 official firmware for 13.37.31 # * my nano 13.37.34 # i have what may be a stupid quesiton 13.37.39 # question* 13.38.40 # im having trouble with my gigabeat and rockbox. It keeps saying "Codec Failure" when I try to play mp3's 13.38.47 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.38.52 # should there be a mp3.codec file in the codecs dir? 13.38.53 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.38.56 # Luse: yes 13.39.00 # mpa.codec 13.39.01 # ahh 13.39.02 # mpa 13.39.05 # ta 13.39.29 # hmm its in there 13.39.36 # maybe it's old 13.39.41 # markun: btw, i was joking before about the lcd drivers... 13.39.42 # Stalwart: The install process is ridiculously easy these days. 13.39.45 # Luse: What player do you have? 13.39.54 # Luse: have you updated rockbox lately? 13.40.08 # LinusN: what will the sh folrder look like with the 4th dir? 13.40.35 # yeah did so today 13.40.51 # Luse: then did you really update all of the files in the zip file? 13.41.07 # overwrote them with the new zip 13.41.08 # Llorean: i didn't seriously use windows for ~2.5 years 13.41.30 # only for web browsing on friend's pcs 13.41.38 # Luse: i suggest you update your bootloader 13.41.43 # rgr 13.41.46 # Stalwart: The process is fine on either player, it's very easy on Linux as well. 13.42.01 # Luse: and remove the rockbox.gigabeat file in the root 13.42.15 # kk 13.42.17 Join Topy [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-81-173-149-8.netcologne.de) 13.43.38 # there is somewhere a table with every HAVE_SOMETHING used in ifdefs for all platforms? 13.44.03 # spiorf: I don't think so 13.44.33 # then where can i find if my ipod nano has that feature? 13.44.56 # check the nano config*.h file 13.45.09 # firmware/export/config-ipodnano.h iirc 13.45.34 # ok thanks 13.46.34 # spiorf: or just ask... it might be faster :p 13.46.44 # hmm 13.47.09 # New bootloader = startup screen then blackness 13.47.10 # * amiconn wonders why we need subdir under drivers/ ... 13.47.16 # subdirs even 13.47.36 # i was trying to read the code, so i can't ask for every ifdef i find 13.48.21 # I just compiled brickmania for the sansa (using the bmps for the nano), but the game is too easy because you have ages for the powerups to fall.. should I halve the screen height and center the screen vertically? or will that look really bad? 13.50.00 Quit inversions (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.50.07 # Speed up the lcd driver... 13.50.17 # Luse: interesting... 13.51.32 # Luse: i am no gigabeat expert, though, so i'm not sure why it would do that 13.51.47 # amiconn: was that to me? 13.51.54 # Luse: can you connect to USB? 13.51.59 # JdGordon: yes 13.52.00 # ahh 13.52.02 # i could 13.52.07 # tll i tried an old bootloader 13.52.23 # LinusN: arch/platform/series/model is one layer too much at least for some targets 13.52.30 # amiconn: no, the problem is the lcd is too high, so the ball goes up and down twice before the powerup falls... speeding up the game would make it way too hard 13.52.55 # amiconn: yes, how do you suggest we approach that without confusing the hierarchies? 13.53.05 # JdGordon: You could just set the powerups to fall at a faster speed... 13.53.18 # JdGordon: Can't you make them move two steps instead of one on Nano, or move more often? 13.53.20 # In fact I don't understand what problem we try to solve here 13.53.38 # The target tree worked fine with the existing 3 layers 13.53.45 # Brickmania seems rife with screen-size dependencies. Didn't the ball move different speeds on different screens too? 13.54.08 # amiconn: afaik, the problem is that much PP code is spread among the manufacturers 13.54.18 # LinusN ok im able to connect to it via usb again 13.54.26 # Then put it on the arm level... 13.55.10 # amiconn: the idea was that the cpu level would be CPU specific stuff, i.e ARM assembly and the likes 13.55.34 # and not ADC drivers for portalplayer etc 13.55.41 # Nothings stops us from separating by cpu sub-type at the cpu layer 13.55.56 # I mean without creating a separate folder level 13.56.21 # annnnd it loads rockbox and blackscreen 13.56.25 # Like system-pp.c, system-pnx0101.c etc 13.56.43 # Luse: Try turning on Hold, immediately after turning on the player 13.56.54 # kk 13.56.54 # Luse: perhaps you should remove the .rockbox dir and install rockbox from scratch 13.57.02 # system-target.h would then keep its name, including the more specific .h files with a few simple ifdefs 13.57.13 # LinusN: It *might* just be Black on Black. 13.57.24 # Llorean: yeah, you are right 13.57.32 # how do i sort that out? 13.57.35 # Like #ifdef CPU_PP / #include "system-pp.h" #elif .... 13.57.37 # Luse: The turn on hold thing 13.58.03 # Luse: Turn off the player, turn it on, and while the Toshiba screen is on, turn on hold, and wait for Rockbox to load. Hopefully it should say "Cleared" 13.58.30 # * pondlife can read at about the same speed Llorean can type 13.58.51 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@wbs-41-208-200-225.wbs.co.za) 13.59.21 # Llorean: not easily... forcing the screen size to around the size of the nano seems to work ine in the sim... 13.59.22 # hmm nah no change 13.59.40 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.59.44 # Luse: Gigabeat X or F? 13.59.52 # JdGordon: rotate the gameplay! ;-P 14.00.28 # B4gder: id love to 14.00.31 # pondlife: Wanna try a new patch? 14.00.34 # B4gder: If I recall, most of the movements in that game are based on pixels/frame rather than using some sort of speed. 14.00.48 # B4gder: Basically making it different on every screen. =/ 14.00.58 # Now the sim also displays the debug output correctly if you set your console to use a truetype font :) 14.01.29 Join yoho [0] (n=beachrec@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 14.01.39 # Luse: If it's X, I'm guessing by "Blackness" you meant "No Backlight"? 14.01.42 # amiconn: Go for it 14.02.21 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 14.02.47 # X 14.02.47 Quit lachlan ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.02.56 # thats it indeed 14.03.06 # its an X30 14.03.08 # * amiconn would also like Bagder or LinusN take a look at this patch 14.03.08 # Luse: Ah, we thought by "blackness" you meant the screen was black, not unlit. 14.03.20 # well its not lit 14.03.24 # and nothing is displayed 14.03.25 # Luse: There's a current bug that keeps the backlight from working on the X series. The most recent working build is 4-11, I believe 14.03.25 # It uses quite a number of macros... 14.03.55 # tisk tisk.. macros are bad! 14.03.57 # amiconn: what patch? 14.04.01 # ill give 4-11 a go 14.05.03 # http://amiconn.dnynds.org/win32unicode.diff 14.05.34 # It enabled the sim to properly work on windows with non-ascii filenames 14.05.38 # *enables 14.06.09 # dnynds.org, is that a new service? ;-] 14.06.19 # Llorean 14.06.27 # I would like to have your e-babies 14.06.32 # its working 14.06.35 # bah 14.06.36 # thanks everyone 14.06.39 # dyndns of course 14.07.24 # seeyas 14.07.43 # amiconn: looks fine enough to me, I'm rather clueless when it comes to unicode 14.07.44 Quit Luse () 14.09.19 # amiconn: i think it looks OK 14.11.05 Quit hiho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.12.32 # amiconn: Not working here 14.12.36 # i.e. can't download! 14.12.50 # Oops, gotcha 14.14.22 # * pondlife should read more 14.15.23 # amiconn: Seems fine 14.18.10 # Some of the console output isn't as I'd expect still. 14.18.14 # "We open the real file 'M:\/Arcade Fire/Funeral/08 Haïti.cue" 14.18.45 # Ignore the stupid M:\... that's my hackery 14.18.51 # pondlife: You need to set your console to use a truetype font. I mentioned that. 14.19.03 # Ah, I missed that 14.19.15 # I blame work. 14.19.46 Quit juxtap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.20.20 Part LinusN 14.20.29 # Yep, works great 14.21.50 # amiconn: Is it ready to commit? 14.22.22 # * JdGordon wants to add a powerup to brickmania to change the pad width... but gets scared every time he looks at the code :p 14.23.45 # Haha, you should try some playback fixes 14.27.18 Quit austriancoder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.30.00 # Quick question... are the button backlights supposed to work on the Toshiba F series? 14.30.39 # elinenbe_: There's a debug menu option 14.32.36 Quit XavierGr () 14.32.40 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.37.35 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-223-54-59.aep.bellsouth.net) 14.39.24 Quit pondlife (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.41.55 Join brun0_ [0] (n=brun0_@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 14.42.54 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc3-rdng11-0-0-cust229.winn.cable.ntl.com) 14.43.15 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@cblmdm72-240-248-25.buckeyecom.net) 14.43.25 Quit kaaloo (Client Quit) 14.45.24 Part TrueJournals 14.49.22 Quit smolyn ("KVIrc 3.2.5 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 14.55.38 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.56.43 Quit ptw419 () 14.57.37 Quit inversions (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.00.21 # JdGordon: ok, I thought you were serious about the lcd driver stuff :) 15.00.54 # na, :), would be nice if the merging happened though... but... :p 15.01.22 # Merging all lcd drivers doesn't make sense 15.01.37 # no, but the scroll code, and the bmp drawing... 15.01.45 # But some parts can, and will, be shared across drivers 15.01.56 # scroll code: yes, bmp drawing: no 15.02.16 # And the text output can (possibly) be unified across bitmap lcd drivers 15.08.33 # i have some basic questions about bookmarking, deleting, is there someone that would be kind enuf to PM me to answer (gigabeat/f)? (the manual doesn't sync to the screens i see) 15.08.57 # yoho: which manual did you try? 15.09.22 # the pdf or the html? 15.09.31 # markun: daily build 'online' 15.09.55 # in what way doesn't it "sync to the screen"? 15.10.43 # i could never find this screen: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox_interface/images/ss-file-menu-240x320x16.png 15.11.31 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-310004.1.2 15.12.29 # Anyway, what are the questions you have? 15.12.38 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.13.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.13.35 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 15.14.15 # while on filelong select (right arrow(?)) doesn't enter FILE MENU for me, just scrolls list horz 15.14.24 # file,long 15.15.11 # select is actually the center of the cross :) 15.15.27 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-180003.1.1 15.16.59 # great, that worked, let me try my bookmarking issues with that in mind. 15.17.31 # ok, I don't think you should have much trouble with it now 15.17.36 # good luck 15.18.45 Join Stalwart^ [0] (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 15.19.02 Quit Stalwart (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.21.06 Nick Stalwart^ is now known as Stalwrat (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 15.21.10 Nick Stalwrat is now known as Stalwart (n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv) 15.21.22 Join andrewy [0] (n=irssi@user-387c6rm.cable.mindspring.com) 15.22.03 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.22.46 # bookmarking looking better, one other question, on my ajax wps, the top date/time line shows 'Thu, b dc 9:M:Sc' ?? 15.23.13 # yoho: There was a recent update to the way that time and date tags work in the WPS 15.23.21 # You'll need to update the WPS. 15.23.31 # i DL'd yesterday, since then? 15.23.49 Join Hammer89 [0] (n=soc_inte@host-24-149-166-187.patmedia.net) 15.23.55 # Downloaded what yesterday? The build or the WPS? 15.24.00 # both 15.24.02 # no, but the WPS is older 15.24.03 # my iriver h320 works fine with the official firmware. I've tried rockbox by patching the 1.29kr, 1.28eu, and 1.30eu firmware, and all have the same problem. The battery always dies overnight, even though I turn the unit off. When the rockbox firmware is flashed, barely touching the button will turn it on (I have to told the power button for a few seconds with the official firmware), so my guess is that it turns on over night and runs its 15.25.46 Quit Spec (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.25.53 Join Spec [0] (n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec) 15.26.46 # andrewy: strange, I've never heard about anyone with the same problem 15.26.48 # so i need to edit the WPS template? 15.27.04 # yoho: The WPS must not be in sync with the current state of rockbox. You could make the changes according to this document: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 15.32.47 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 15.33.41 # austriancoder: preparing yourself for a summer of staying inside and doing hard labor? :) 15.34.29 # markun: *g* a laptop is a very fine toy 15.37.37 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 15.38.05 # aliask: re: wps editing, that worked, thanks! 15.38.59 # yoho: nothing left but to sit back, relax and enjoy your music 15.39.10 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 15.39.38 # yoho: Good on ya 15.41.06 # re: bookmarking, i'm playing a file, and select NEXT, then PREV, any way to enforce bookmarks? (set to ask/ask) 15.42.07 # what do you mean by "enforce bookmarks" ? 15.42.29 # to resume PREV file at point i left off 15.43.07 # it's still not clear to me. Maybe someone else can help. 15.43.35 # you want to set a bookmark for every file when you skip to another one? 15.43.44 # Do you mean "set to ask/don't ask"? 15.43.44 # yes 15.44.02 # i set both to ASK 15.44.13 # yoho: I don't think what you ask is possible, but I might be wrong 15.45.30 # do you know how to program? 15.45.39 # austriancoder: in the process of examining usable USB stacks, might be good to check the (free) one I got from philips for the isp1362 ( http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsbOnTheGoSupport ), it should do complete OTG so it can play host or client. I have a modified version at home that compiles for h3x0 15.46.17 # if stack could be separated from driver it would be nice 15.51.15 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 15.51.18 Part norbusan 15.53.58 Quit austriancoder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.56.56 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 15.57.45 # petur, austriancoder: this is only a device mode USB stack, but it's quite simple and has some nice examples: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lpcusb 15.58.02 # actually, usbotg is one of the features i miss most in rockbox. the original firmwares usbotg support on the X5 sucks seriously, and i would love being able to use my x5 as image tank during festivals 15.58.16 # and as backup device aswell, as sd cards die away on me all the time 15.58.24 # Topy: you're not alone ;) 15.58.30 Quit andrewy (Remote closed the connection) 15.58.32 # (as in, they never last longer than 3-4 festivals...) 15.59.25 # not to forget: e200tool uploads usb code to the sansa... 15.59.34 Join andrewy [0] (n=irssi@user-387c6rm.cable.mindspring.com) 15.59.40 # barrywardell: thanks.. at the moment i am looking in books and other stacks to define something like a design for the stack.. also i am looking how linux kernel does it 16.00.06 # the linux one is very big and complicated 16.00.15 # * petur would really like a stack that does both client and host 16.00.24 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 16.00.51 # petur: me too.. but first part will be client 16.00.54 # its a shame that the x5's usbotg port is only usb1.1 16.01.06 # the usb2.0 port is client-only afaik 16.02.04 # i was thinking about getting one of these "read from one device and write to another" gadgets as a workaround... 16.02.05 # but thats one more device to be carrying around 16.02.05 # Topy: usbotg is usb2.0 in fact, but at the speed you are used to from usb1.1 16.02.41 # markun, oh? on the x5? because its only usb1.1 speed if used as client... on the subpack usb port, access is a LOT faster 16.02.42 # Topy: Get a belt :D 16.03.01 # Topy: don't confuse speeds with usb versions 16.03.15 Join mister_pink [0] (n=mfsoab99@pjrh2.caths.cam.ac.uk) 16.03.20 # usbotg is an extension on usb2 16.03.25 # B4gder, i dont, its just that i thought that its usb1.1 because the speed quite exactly matches common usb1.1 speeds 16.04.03 # calling it "1.1 speed" is one of the reasons for the common confusion 16.04.12 # let me try something 16.08.24 # you are right, it DOES actually identify itself as usb2.0 device 16.08.33 # weird that its slower over that port 16.08.44 # B4gder: but high-speed and full-speed are also confusing to me 16.08.44 # not weird at all 16.09.04 # markun: indeed! 16.09.05 # why would it be only a fraction of the speed if connected over the host port instead of the subpack-usb-port 16.09.30 # Topy: Because USB2.0 doesn't mean you have to support all speeds. 16.09.57 # i see - i think 16.10.09 # There's "Full Speed" which is, if I recall, the 1.1 speed 16.10.26 # And then there's the additional "High Speed" which is what people seem to think of as "USB2.0" 16.10.34 # Topy: USB2 was a standard that included a bunch of stuff. One of those things was USB-OTG. Another of those was "high speed usb" 16.10.34 # Both are really valid 2.0, iiuc 16.10.38 Quit andrewy (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.11.26 Part Stalwart ("WeeChat 0.2.5-cvs") 16.13.11 # Llorean: usb 1.1 actually has 2 speeds: LOW (1.5Mbit) and FULL (12Mbit) 16.13.11 # must have been invented by the same guys that invented "web 2.0" :) 16.13.25 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#USB_signaling 16.13.29 # Nobody invented web 2.0, it just emerged :( 16.13.33 # Like a stand alone complex. 16.13.35 # yes, low is whats used by devices like mice, keyboards, joypads... 16.13.55 # petur: I was sorta generalizing still. :) 16.14.03 # ;) 16.14.14 # Thundercloud, more like cancer. but i was talking about the confusing and redundant "names" for it 16.14.39 # Haha 16.14.45 Quit Entasis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.17.06 # what's up with the beep setting? No matter what I set it to, it hardly works properly... 16.19.27 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 16.20.05 # elinenbe_: What do you mean? 16.22.22 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 16.23.22 # Llorean: if I enable sound settings->general settings->playback->beep voulme->to anything here.... 16.23.31 # it works randomly 16.24.25 # The volume works randomly? 16.25.27 Quit cadu_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.25.41 # does ROLO work on the gigabeat now ? 16.25.46 # no 16.25.46 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 16.25.46 # Not that I know of 16.26.07 # why is it in the manual then ? 16.26.10 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5A2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.27.40 # Llorean: the beeps happen randomly 16.28.33 # GodEater: Because if things should be working, but aren't quite yet, they're often in the manual anyway. 16.29.43 # It'd be really nice if RoLo worked. 16.29.58 # yes, but it's been on the feature list for months now 16.30.17 # and it's either not being worked on, or it's much more difficult to do than previously though 16.30.19 # +t 16.30.24 # So? 16.30.27 # in which case, IMO, it shouldn't be in the manual 16.30.33 # Rockbox isn't released, the manual says clearly "Draft" 16.30.53 # fine, fine, but I've already seen posts in the forum from people who assume it does work 16.31.04 # Ass-u-me. 16.31.35 # A note in the manual saying it doesn't work yet wouldn't be out of place. 16.31.37 # pondlife: assume based on what we always ask our users to do, which is read the manual 16.31.50 # :) 16.32.04 # GodEater: We also tell them clearly that not everything is working as intended yet. 16.32.08 # For example, Recording on iPod. 16.32.09 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@admin-147-222.potsdam.edu) 16.32.24 # The main menu isn't even right in the manual, that's the first screen users see. 16.34.32 # If the feature is presently operable, the only reason it would be in the manual is because no-one has corrected the manual to remove it or put a note that it is not yet operational. 16.34.42 # s/is/is not 16.35.02 # Llorean: where does the manual say "draft" ? 16.35.15 # GodEater: on every page of the PDF. 16.35.23 # ah - I'm reading the online version 16.35.42 # But I wonder if the manual will ever NOT be a draft :) 16.35.44 # Febs: The feature doesn't work yet. Attempting to rolo makes the screen flicker, and nothing happens. 16.35.58 # markun: It will always be a draft except when a release version of RB comes out, I think. 16.36.25 # A non-draft manual would have to be "complete" for the version of Rockbox parallel to it. Basically impossible without a release. :) 16.36.38 # I still think RoLo shouldn't be in there if it doesn't work. Just saying the manual is "draft" isn't hugely helpful to people if they have no way of knowing which bits are accurate or not 16.37.00 # Febs: Honestly, the same problem could be solved by Rockbox giving an error of some sort when RoLo isn't working. 16.38.39 # GodEater: If it's removed from the manual, people aren't going to assume that it doesn't work. They're going to hear about it, and assume it's undocumented, as we've got a few "undocumented" features still. 16.38.47 # GodEater: A note should be put to say it's non-working, if anything. 16.39.10 # either of those seems better than having something there saying it works when it doesn't 16.41.51 # I just don't like the idea of removing functions of the core from the manual just because they aren't implemented yet. A note, yes, a removal no. 16.42.14 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@196.2.114.255) 16.42.14 # I could have sworn the GB bootloader included a dual boot feature too, and the manual even says it does. It doesn't say how you access this feature though. 16.42.49 # although the wiki page says the opposite. 16.43.04 Quit RaRe ("The Evolution of Medicine - 2000 BC - Here, eat this root. 1000 AD - That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer. 1850 AD - T) 16.43.18 # GodEater, you can boot back to the original firmware with the current bootloader 16.43.25 # but it's only one direction 16.43.42 # kkurbjun: you mean the feature which renames the .ORIG file ? 16.43.52 # I thought there was a proper dual boot function. 16.43.53 # it just copies the OF FQIMG01.dat back over 16.44.03 # no, no porper dual boot feature 16.44.08 # proper that is 16.44.42 # GodEater: If you try the actual dual boot function, it tells you that it's not working. 16.44.49 # If I recall 16.45.27 # if I could find where it's documented, I'd do that. 16.45.29 # but I can't 16.45.48 # I don't think there is any code for dualboot.. least not that I recall 16.45.53 # ah 16.45.56 # hold the A button 16.46.06 # it says "loading original firmware" 16.46.12 # and then proceeds to boot rockbox ;) 16.46.15 # there have been some experiments to load the OF, but we didn't try very hard 16.46.39 # well, again, I'd say that's something which should at least be highlighted in the manual then 16.46.41 # if not removed 16.46.56 # the wiki is clearly correct 16.46.57 # Godeater, I've also been working on rolo, and I have it working intermittently, it's just not consistent yet 16.47.02 # GodEater: as usual: write a patch :) 16.47.04 # cool 16.47.23 # can't stand TeX 16.48.11 # too tempted to write "Llorean thinks RoLo should stay here even though it doesn't work yet" too at the moment :) 16.48.33 # GodEater: Why is removing it better than adding a clear note that it doesn't work yet? 16.48.51 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 16.49.06 # * petur suddenly gets reminded of the remaining time discussion 16.49.14 Part juxtap 16.49.28 # Llorean: no no, I agree with you now - your logic is flawless as ever. 16.49.44 Part B4gder 16.49.46 # I'm trying to not be a sore loser 16.49.53 # Oh, that's fine then 16.50.00 # I'm fine with soreness in my direction, as long as I get my way. :-P 16.50.46 # I don't get that section of the manual though (in TeX form). We have a bunch of options there that don't appear to do anything for specific players. 16.51.07 # oh no, I see, it's the firmware name 16.56.39 # petur: how will me manage the soc thing? 16.56.58 # me? 16.58.21 # oh.. typo we 16.58.26 # I guess first make a list of possible stacks to use with pro and con and then pick one. 16.59.21 # best to make a wiki page for that 17.00.06 # Does the Windows installer for the Archos platforms install version 2.5 only? 17.00.41 # petur: sounds good... 17.00.59 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 17.01.55 # austriancoder: I have no time this week and am offline this weekend, but next week I'll have a look at putting up a 'plan' ;) soc official start is 28 may iirc 17.03.17 # petur: *g* take it easy 17.03.47 # Febs: I believe so 17.03.54 # Febs: It's been superceded by RBUtil, or will be. 17.04.11 # Or seded. 17.04.16 # Whatever, replaced 17.04.19 # That's what I thought. So the section in the manual about using the Windows installer should be removed. 17.04.26 # Aye 17.07.21 # * Febs realizes that the entire installation chapter basically needs to be rewritten. 17.08.54 # =/ 17.09.50 # Ultimately, that's a good thing because the way it is structured now (from a TeX perspective) is fairly convoluted. 17.13.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.13.46 # time to go... see ya 17.13.49 Part austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 17.20.50 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p54849991.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.31.49 Join TTS4RB [0] (i=a46b782d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-93c8a761625ca42e) 17.34.54 Join Rincewind [0] (i=ZcfGeks5@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 17.35.19 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 17.36.00 Quit TTS4RB (Client Quit) 17.52.20 Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) 17.53.20 # barrywardell: I've been meaning to ask, is there any functional change for us H10 users, now that we have a rockbox.mi4 rather than rockbox.h10 ? 17.53.48 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 17.53.57 # lol 17.54.08 # try again latter 17.55.07 # H10_007quick: Shouldn't be. 17.55.53 # one more Question, does it default to loading the .mi4 file rather than the .h10 file or do we all need to delete our .h10 files? 17.56.24 # If you've got a new enough bootloader it should default to the mi4 17.56.28 # But you should delete the .h10 anyway 17.56.35 # sounds good 17.56.38 # thanks 17.56.51 Quit H10_007quick (Client Quit) 17.58.04 Quit midgey () 18.00.23 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 18.01.09 # linuxstb, jhMikeS : how many bytes would you consider to be a maximum for the overlay buffer system? I'm currently using 1 screen sized buffer ... but that's suboptimal. Best solution would be to have 1 buffer for each active overlay item (with a malloc mechanism). 18.01.25 # But i'm kind of unsure about the max amount that i can take from the file read buffer 18.01.41 # (or if i can allocate data from the mpeg2dec buffer system) 18.02.25 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 18.02.34 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 18.02.44 # urgh, malloc 18.03.25 # overlay pictures can have variable sizes 18.03.34 # so either we have a bunch of full screen sized buffers to use ... or we try to optimise memory usage a bit 18.04.13 # each pic needs 1.5*screensize bytes if we want fullscreen buffers 18.04.28 # Why do you need to allow more than one active overlay item? 18.05.00 # like you can have subs, scrollbar, other OSD info 18.05.02 # dionoea: the original plan me and jhMikeS had was to just use the framebuffer with an extra 1 byte per pixel mask 18.05.22 # dionoea: But you aren't obligated to allow all those at once. 18.05.39 # markun: Subs almost require two colors to be readable. 18.06.02 # Llorean: so? the framebuffer is RGB565... 18.06.06 # should be enough colours 18.06.08 # Llorean: that's what i was doing before ... but they told me to implement a whole overlay framework 18.06.08 # markun: Sorry, I read "1 bit per pixel" 18.06.15 # markun: you render in y (it's easier) 18.06.31 Quit petur ("time's up") 18.06.43 # dionoea: easier, but not so flexible 18.07.29 # why? 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(sorry for bad englisch) 19.45.39 # *english 19.45.46 # You don't create it. 19.45.48 # It comes in the zip 19.46.23 # oh boy, forget it, i'm to dumb *lol* ya, found my mistake 19.46.39 # thank you 19.47.03 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-70-235-180-86.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 19.47.18 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.47.33 # oh 19.47.42 # a clean and simple interface *g* 19.48.27 # and first crash 19.49.22 # um, what do to now 19.50.34 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.50.36 # ah 19.50.39 # now it works 19.50.47 # love you guys for doin this 19.51.43 # mhj but not stable 19.52.35 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 19.53.04 Part ctaf 19.56.56 # It's in a very early state on the Sansa, over all. 19.57.10 # yeha but looks good 19.57.20 # hm but my pc can't find the sansa yet 19.57.39 # You have to reboot into the original firmware 19.58.03 # Rockbox doesn't have USB support on Sansa yet, the icon just means we've detected that it's plugged in. 19.58.43 # ah 19.58.46 # good to know 19.59.10 # but hm one litte question :D 19.59.17 # how do play music? can't find the option 20.00.51 # I suggest you look into the manual 20.00.56 # You just click on songs. 20.01.13 # mh, there are NO songs 20.01.23 # but i didn't delete the songs 20.01.35 # Well, the normal MUSIC folder the sansa uses is hidden 20.01.50 # So set the file view to show all instead of just supported. 20.02.02 # Or have the database search them out and index them if you want to use the database features 20.02.44 # oh 20.03.02 # oh sorry everytime i clicked on database i clicked twice without reading so he aborted 20.06.37 # oh erm, one litte question? 20.06.48 # Yes? 20.07.04 # how can i play all songs? 20.07.52 # Assuming all your songs are say, in the MUSIC folder, just insert that folder into a playlist 20.08.58 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@207-237-224-214.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 20.10.02 Quit Eimann ("Core dumped") 20.12.10 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 20.12.59 Nick _pill is now known as pill (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) 20.13.39 Quit furiousD_ (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 20.20.33 # ya, thank your for your helo 20.20.35 # *tahnk yoz 20.20.36 # you 20.24.48 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.27.02 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-075-177-158-190.nc.res.rr.com) 20.27.13 Quit ender` (" If I had only finished this sentence,") 20.32.28 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 20.43.07 Part rift 20.46.03 Join webguest96 [0] (i=4b2237bd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f8955f4ee57283e4) 20.47.44 # inned help installing rockbox.i'm in my toshiba gigabeat , drive I , looking at the files and I can't find the root file. i enabled "show hidden files " but I still can't see it 20.49.44 Quit webguest96 (Client Quit) 20.53.02 # did you begin the install ? or just starting and try to find the fwimg01.dat ? 20.55.17 # He's gone. 20.55.26 # Only stuck around 2 minutes. 20.58.44 # * amiconn just calculated that 1 giga-beat will be around 21 years with typical music ;) 21.02.04 # Hahaha 21.02.44 # What did you pick as a typical BPM then? 21.03.13 # 90 21.03.46 # Llorean: faad can already do sbr and ps, afaik 21.03.58 # preglow: I thought faad wasn't GPL compatible 21.04.02 # Or was that faac? 21.04.05 # * Llorean gets those confused. 21.04.12 # well, faad is in our tree... 21.04.24 # i don't think it's gpl compatible any more 21.04.26 # but our version is 21.04.28 # faad/faac/whatever went through a license change. 21.04.34 # Yeah, I think the HE support is post-that though. 21.04.41 # don't think so 21.04.59 # tons of sbr files in our tree 21.05.02 # Ah, well then I wrote that response on a wrong assumption. I knew about the HE, but remembered reading it came after the license change. 21.05.05 # also several ps files 21.05.36 # anywho, it needs _tons_ of optimising before it can be used 21.05.42 # that's for sure 21.05.56 # amiconn: amiconn just calculated that 1 giga-beat will be around 21 years with typical music ;) ?? what does that mean? 21.06.23 # I read that HE-AAC is expected to require ~67mhz ARM processor. I can't remember which ARM type they mentioned though 21.06.39 # elinenbe_: Using standard prefixes, 1,000,000,000 beats. 21.07.06 # ah... okay. 21.07.09 # Llorean: my estimation is that assumes pretty kickass optimised code 21.08.19 # preglow: I think it was also a faster/more modern ARM than our iPods are. 21.10.38 # amiconn: If my math is right, the Gigabeat is then really only holding about 3.5 megabeats. 21.10.45 # The F40 model, at least 21.10.54 # how disappointing 21.11.04 # I call marketing hijinks! 21.11.14 # Depends on the format... 21.11.31 # This was assuming approximately 1 megabyte per minute of audio. 21.11.40 # ah 21.11.43 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.12.02 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 21.12.08 # Llorean: What about your SID collection? 21.12.23 # Ah, well with SID I think I can safely assume it reaches many many gigabeats. 21.13.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.16.18 Join BiptoN [0] (n=BiptoN@cpe-76-166-195-170.socal.res.rr.com) 21.18.42 Quit funky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.22.44 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 21.24.28 Quit Jon-Kha (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 21.26.36 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m145.net195-132-203.noos.fr) 21.27.02 # linuxstb: Regarding your remark concerning sscanf yesterday - it might be useful to put this in the core, depending on whether it could be used in places where we currently parse data "by hand" 21.27.43 # I tried compiling it for sh1; the .o file contained 884 bytes of code, which can be reduced to 810 bytes when put in the core 21.28.37 # (by using the core ctype mechanism instead of the manual range checking) 21.31.06 Join chelli [0] (n=chelli@p54b85073.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.31.16 # Sounds good. 21.31.36 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 21.31.42 Quit hannesd__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.35.02 # linuxstb_: is mpegplayer supposed to work in the sim? 21.35.19 # I think it's broken right now 21.35.29 # There's I think a bug report on it. 21.36.13 # ah ok, i wanted to debug my changes runing gdb but couldn't get it to launch in the sim 21.36.30 # segfaults due to a NULL pointer dereferencing in the main loop 21.37.17 # * linuxstb looks towards jhMikeS 21.38.17 # linuxstb: He said in a comment on the tracker it should be fixed by the time he's done with something. 21.38.33 # I could try a clean build and see if it still segfaults ... but i'm lazy :) 21.38.34 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.38.43 # dionoea: No, that's the problem that was discussed. 21.38.49 # ok 21.40.05 # * jhMikeS should close that one 21.40.50 # I was worried that i'd corrupted the memory somehow 21.41.32 Join Hobart [0] (n=jon@turing.kaosol.net) 21.42.06 Quit Guile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.43.24 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@84.7.94.192) 21.45.14 # Llorean: about HE-AAC for arm https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/2005/aacfixptdec , you ave the average cpu usage 21.47.34 # toffe82: That looks similar or maybe the same as what I saw. 21.48.49 # amiconn: the WPS parser could probably use sscanf 21.54.07 # amiconn: I did even consider writing something similar or adding it to the core 21.56.23 Quit desowin ("use linux") 21.56.39 # argh, if only that decoder could be used :// 21.56.47 # jhMikeS: congrats on the new frameskipping algo. It's much better than before 21.57.10 # hellow 21.57.29 # preglow: I'm sure ffmpeg will get there eventually.... 21.57.43 # linuxstb_: well, let's hope so 21.57.48 # Nico_P: Do you think our limited sscanf is enough? 21.58.05 # * amiconn just had a look at a full fledged implementation 21.58.20 # wuarg harddisk seems to be broken 21.58.37 # It's huge, and still needs external functions 21.58.38 # amiconn: what can it do ? 21.59.31 Join JazzBone [0] (n=JazzBone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 21.59.44 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.59.54 # amiconn: I have to leave but I'll be back later this evening and I'll read the backlogs 22.01.57 Quit brun0_ ("Au revoir!") 22.03.26 # mh just for summing up: i'm not able to connect to my sansa to my computer with rockbox, e.g. for adding songs? 22.03.32 # *- connect + link 22.04.34 # Taras: boot the OF for that 22.05.08 # OF? 22.05.14 # original firmware 22.05.16 # ah 22.05.19 Join BjornW [0] (n=BjornW@a80-100-120-158.adsl.xs4all.nl) 22.05.44 # mh am i allowed to ask how to do this? 22.06.01 # it is mentioned in the manual... 22.06.18 # pressing left when starting, iirc 22.06.52 # oh 22.07.19 # the new frame skipping code is nice indeed 22.07.37 # Taras: An even easier method is to turn off the player, then plug in the USB cable. 22.07.51 # i'm so sorry for my bad english and my questions >.< a bit embarissing for me, thanks for all the help 22.11.02 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.11.10 # dionoea: thanks, it does do a much smoother job of it :) 22.11.33 # except during the first 30s of playback :) 22.11.37 # but that's normal i guess 22.11.41 # 30s? 22.11.47 # well the begining 22.11.51 # in the sim? 22.11.53 # seems nice all the time here 22.12.00 # The initial buffering is kinda rocky 22.12.02 # it's kind of skippy using ED 16:9 on the ipod video 22.12.05 # On some players, at least. 22.12.10 # yeah, like Llorean says 22.12.15 # but after a while i gets better 22.12.19 # way better 22.12.21 # buffering will make it skip more 22.12.29 # (and you win like 2 or 3 fps on the ipod 5g) 22.13.22 # I do have some videos that underrun the buffer...including the big elephants dream near the end. Just doubling the low watermark as a test fixes it. 22.13.47 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 22.14.06 # On what player? 22.14.10 # gigabeat 22.16.51 # Last 320x240 video I checked with didn't drop a single frame, but it was only 600kbps. 22.16.53 # it usually gets the audio stream first since it has to skip over more packets 22.18.37 # I'll double super verify this though 22.18.58 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.19.42 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 22.19.52 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-165-130.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.32.01 # bah 22.32.15 # * amiconn forgot to mention the fixed fs# in the commit msg 22.32.26 # well you can fix it 22.32.36 # (if it's enabled in the server's pre commit hooks) 22.32.59 # It still isn't afaik 22.33.04 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@203.145.159.41) 22.33.18 # ah. 22.33.40 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.33.43 Quit Hobart ("leaving") 22.34.05 # hey i have a problem any playlist made in rockbox or windows with UTF-8 encodin causes the Dr.Watson debugger to get active even if a click is made ont he file , & options are debug or close explorer 22.39.37 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 22.43.26 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 22.45.32 Part AceNik 22.47.38 # hum, what unit does rb->filesize( ) return the size in ? 22.48.10 # sizeof(int) ? 22.48.14 # degrees of bigness? 22.48.28 # ?!? 22.50.01 # Units of non-zeroness. 22.50.37 # hrm...turning off disk spindown stops the glitch cause I think there aren't enough unit of bigness left 22.51.35 Quit Guile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.53.17 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5A2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.57.48 # ...and not sleeping the buffer after a file queue wrap seems to fix it...not a size problem but a problem where the stream needs wrapped data but it's not there. 22.59.37 Part TrueJournals 23.02.36 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@84.7.94.192) 23.10.23 Join japan445 [0] (n=chatzill@lns-bzn-33-82-252-9-191.adsl.proxad.net) 23.12.07 Quit japan445 (Client Quit) 23.12.42 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496643b.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.13.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.15.11 Quit davina ("byeeeeee!") 23.18.00 Join NET||abuse [0] (n=lukeab@87-198-27-172.ptr.magnet.ie) 23.18.44 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.19.06 # hmm, this isn't promisiing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux 23.20.34 # did you look at the manual ? 23.20.46 # (sorry if the question sounds obvious) 23.20.52 # reading it now.. just there's no link to the manual or even the linux sections on that page 23.21.13 # It's the 4th link in the left hand menu on the website 23.21.14 # would be nice to have a link :) 23.21.45 # well this is hypertext, markup the content of that page ;) 23.21.55 # just being very particular 23.22.09 # never mind me... i'm dying to get into this 23.22.24 # want my ol' ipod mini to run on this for fun 23.23.04 # linuxstb, jhMikeS : would anyone of you be available to review a subs + overlay in mpegplayer patch? 23.23.47 Quit PaulJam (".") 23.24.36 # dionoea: sure, gimme a minute 23.24.41 # http://people.videolan.org/~dionoea/mpegplayer.subtitles-and-overlay.patch 23.25.29 # It's currently blending in the video buffer, but that could easily be changed to blending in the yuvrenderwhateveritscalled function (by someone who knows a decent amount of assembler) 23.26.04 Join dandin1 [0] (n=dandin1@bas12-ottawa23-1088846115.dsl.bell.ca) 23.26.09 # linuxstb: btw, i fixed the subs code so the number of chars in the timestamp numbers doesn't matter anymore 23.28.17 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3007.gwdg.de) 23.29.44 # really, I see no need for even a single extra buffer to do this 23.30.18 # well people wanted to have a mask buffer to prevent rendering the text at every frame displayed 23.30.23 # (which doesn't sound stupid) 23.30.29 # with a selectable chroma key and using the lcd_framebuffer and an extension to lcd_yuv_blit 23.30.36 # it wouldn't 23.30.53 # you'd only draw the changes in lcd_framebuffer 23.31.41 # the yuv function would just be chroma keyed to show the video or what's behind it 23.31.47 Join webguest52 [0] (i=55b4dd71@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9f8b5b013148385e) 23.32.09 # hi! greets to all 23.32.25 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.32.38 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.32.42 # That doesn't make it possible to have more than 1 color in the overlay (or stuff like alpha blending). Altough i have to agree that it should be faster 23.32.48 # and as a perk, the overlay could arbitrarilty intersect the video rectange and outside it 23.32.56 Quit chelli ("Client exiting") 23.33.00 # it would be full color 23.34.05 # well you wouldn't be able to have multiple colors at the same time with a chroma key (unless i missunderstood what you meant) 23.34.05 Quit webguest52 (Client Quit) 23.34.23 # jhMikeS: re your h1x0 spdif recording fix, do I understand correctly that there wasn't a bug? 23.34.28 # True, no alpha...but that only needs one extra buffer 23.34.53 # Alpha blending seems like overkill. 23.35.05 # petur: Just me being the most absent minded person around here as usual...helped along by the pseudoephedrine :P 23.35.25 # jhMikeS: the alpha mask would need screensize bytes right ? 23.35.25 # Llorean: I agree on that for the overlay 23.35.35 # no 23.35.39 # jhMikeS: Well that's the context I meant it in. :) 23.36.12 # vid_w*vid_h bytes 23.36.17 # I'll be happy as long as the overlay meets the minimum of two colors. 23.36.32 # * amiconn wonders how all this hyper-special overlay stuff would work on greyscale 23.36.39 # It would meet 16 bit colors by what I've got in mind 23.36.59 # And take almost no additional CPU 23.38.09 # amiconn: I think if you're trying to use mpegplayer on greyscale, you've got more problems than simply missing subtitles. ;) 23.38.19 # ?? 23.38.40 # Well isn't the framerate pretty much unwatchable? 23.39.23 # It is on all my targets anyway 23.39.40 # (except that I couldn't test mini g2 yet - linuxstb?) 23.39.55 # But other than the poor performance, why couldn't a version of the overlay be adapted to greyscale targets? 23.40.51 # In fact I still don't see the need for a true overlay. A simple display that appears when seeking or changing volume would be enough imo 23.41.09 # dionoea: what I'm thinking about requires a chroma key mode to be added to lcd_yuv_blit when it writes from lcd_framebuffer is the key doesn't match 23.41.21 # s/is/if 23.41.23 # But then I'm not really a video user anyway. My only interest in this is to show that it's possible 23.41.55 # hmm, can't get my ipod to go into disk mode.. i try the reset and select+play immediately after, no joy,, however i'm wondering.. is there an issue with my battery... how can i health check the battery of th ipod? 23.42.02 # this is an ipod mini from bout 3 years back 23.42.14 # NET||abuse: Have you ever replaced the battery? 23.42.21 # and it can work with both the port type lcds and the dma type 23.42.36 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 23.42.39 # (and atm it's barely possible, but not really usable, unlike rvf, due to the poor framerates) 23.42.41 # nope, never replaced battery... 23.43.05 # NET||abuse: Then unless you live in a ridiculously cold environment, your battery should not be healthy. 23.44.16 # wait think i gottit.. had to do it a few times :) though yeh, i do still think my battery is foo'd 23.44.18 # * jhMikeS thinks framerates can improve substantally throughout 23.44.35 # got into the playlist when i was disconnected there for a second 23.44.35 # * amiconn wonders whether mirak will fix his patch to only contain relevant stuff one day 23.44.55 Quit entheh ("^~") 23.45.37 # if mirak doesn't get to it, I will 23.45.59 # A while ago I tried to find the relevant parts, but failed 23.46.12 # Didn't try again since 23.46.59 # I've never really looked but I plan on doing a good lookover and get rid of irrelevant parts of libmpeg2. the CPU detection is gone which flattened it out a bit. 23.47.05 # got disk mode ;) yay 23.47.31 # hmm, not automounting.. edgy should just od it no? 23.47.39 # s/od/do/ 23.48.16 # right now rebuffering isn't sophisticated enough though. the audio skips so much stuff that it drops really low while the disk spins up. 23.48.27 # hmm, says "do no disconnect" and it's charging... but not mounting up yet. 23.49.07 # and under no conditions should a simple buffer underrun cause a stream to die 23.49.50 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54bd6e78.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.49.56 # hmm,,, i have 4 sata ports on my mobo,, what should the usb port my ipod is on be shown as? 23.50.14 # ls /dev | grep sd shows sda1/2/5/6 23.51.53 # Llorean: I wouldn't say it's unwatchable - not enjoyable, surely a bit skippy but a lot smoother than I last tried... that is with the ED 160-widescreen version off the download area on my M5 23.52.07 # really, the best way to handling things is have to stream buffers and demux during disk reads 23.52.49 # I thought about that, but how do you split the buffer? 23.52.54 # is there any way to find out the fps? 23.53.16 # pixelma: No, that's broken on greyscale at the moment. 23.53.18 # pixelma: Hit the menu button, disable frameskip and limit framerate, and enable the FPS display 23.53.23 # Oh, not on grayscale. =/ 23.54.56 # amiconn: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/144x112.zip 23.55.38 # linuxstb_: what do you mean? 23.55.47 Join Saureus [0] (n=unknowm@71-13-234-157.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 23.55.56 # hey mates, I have a quick question 23.56.03 # jhMikeS: IIUC, you're suggesting separate buffers for compressed audio and video? 23.56.12 # amiconn: what is not relevant in it ? 23.56.17 # linuxstb:_ yes 23.56.57 # mirak: If I knew exactly, I would fix it. But it looks like the same functions are defined in multiple ways 23.57.02 # it would keep the streams from colliding too 23.57.02 # So how do you split the main buffer into two? You don't know the relative average bitrates. 23.57.16 Quit Taras () 23.57.43 # well, if anyone can tell me whether or not rockbox will help my abhorrent battery life, it would be much appreciated 23.58.06 # amiconn_: those not used are not active with ifdef 23.58.40 # I was thinking about that...I suppose for the audio it would be similar to how it would be done for any mpeg audio 23.58.51 Quit ompaul (Nick collision from services.) 23.58.53 # if we know that, what's left is everything else 23.58.59 # ouh...looks even better with shading arround the text.