--- Log for 30.04.107 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 days and 22 hours ago 00.01.00 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.03.16 # nvram.bin is what? 00.04.02 # the binary part of the configuration 00.04.09 # ew 00.04.24 # i.e. that part that isn't "exported" to the cfg file, like resume position 00.04.43 # some players have a nvram to save it, the other use that file 00.05.04 Join bbatbbpc [0] (n=Miranda@195.16.244.188) 00.05.40 # earHertz: It's more like persistant status variables than settings. 00.07.12 # ah, better 00.07.51 # i recall there was great oppositiom to binary settings 00.08.38 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.08.57 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.08.58 # we had binary settings for years ;-) 00.09.07 # is it possible to write a plugin which poweroff the ipod? 00.10.31 Quit freqmod_n (Remote closed the connection) 00.11.17 # maybe i recall incorrectly 00.12.57 Quit PaulJam (".") 00.14.29 Join marc [0] (n=marc@185.155.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 00.16.21 # bbatbbpc: Why would you want that? 00.16.54 # linuxstb: he's got a point. there's no easy way to turn the ipod off 00.18.07 # i want a button to reboot it, because i don't like to press the poweroff button for such a long time 00.18.08 # Huh? Just hold play/pause for a couple of seconds. 00.18.48 # really? 00.19.04 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.19.04 # oh 00.19.19 # That's been there since Rockbox first appeared on an ipod... 00.19.36 # yeah, "hold" presses make me nervous too 00.19.53 # i think a reboot or a poweroff button would be fine 00.19.54 # "nervous" ? 00.19.57 # because somethimes you get into the weird playlisyt menu 00.20.14 # Then that's a bug 00.20.30 # i cannever remmebr what "hold" presses do, except selct/meu reboots 00.21.06 Quit ender` (" Who is this General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?") 00.21.19 # even when i owned an archos, the whole quickmenu thing I NEVEER liked 00.21.57 # bbatbbpc: There's already a shutdown item in the main menu (for the Archos Player), so you could probably just enable it for the ipod if you wanted. 00.22.21 # * obo mutters about FS#6733 00.22.21 # realy? 00.22.43 Quit possible248 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.53 # no there is no such a menu 00.24.55 Join fasmaie [0] (n=fasmaie@c-65-96-236-81.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.25.10 # bbatbbpc: I've just enabled it - works fine... 00.25.10 # bbatbbpc: I've already done it - look at patch 6733 00.25.11 Quit marc| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.25.26 # or just comment out the existing ifdef 00.26.06 # obo: What does your patch do, just add a reboot option as well? 00.26.36 # pretty much - creates a new sub-menu, and moves the sleep timer in there as well 00.26.54 # You don't think they all belong in System? 00.27.56 # possibly - depends if any other options are needed (things like your patch to go straight into disk mode) 00.28.20 # Does your patch work when Rockbox is running from flash? 00.29.16 # no idea - only a 5g to test on target with. But I can't think why it wouldn't... 00.30.03 Quit Guile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.30.13 # obo: i want a new button or menu: poweroff 00.31.10 # bbatbbpc: that patch adds a new menu power, with entries for the sleep timer, reboot and shutdown 00.31.34 # if you just want a shutdown entry, it's easy enough just to enable that on it's own for all targets - just a couple of #ifdefs to remove 00.31.35 # obo: great, but i can't find the patch 00.31.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6733 00.32.25 # thx that is what i want 00.40.51 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.45.13 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.46.04 Part fasmaie 00.46.19 Quit Rincewind ("Cya") 00.46.45 # Just tested 6733 on a sansa...shutdown works, but reboot doesn't 00.48.18 # anyone around who's got an H3x0 (with a fairly recent svn build) handy? ...and doesn't mind trying out something quickly. It could be that a paper clip is needed too (as a forum post implies) but the sim doesn't crash here so maybe not 00.49.43 # weird - AFAIK system-pp502x.c is used by the sansas... where system_reboot is defined for those targets. 00.51.53 # It's defined, but maybe it doesn't work... 00.51.53 # obo: I do have a few other patches though, but it patched it fine, so I don't think that's a problem. The screen turns off but the scrollwheel stays lit (looks manufaturing mode-ish) 00.52.00 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@88-137-121-91.adslgp.cegetel.net) 00.53.34 Quit bonbonthejon (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.54.13 # Any idea what I could do to make it work? 00.55.37 Quit Entasis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.55.53 # I'd bet on linuxstb being right - sounds like you're getting the effects of clean_shutdown clearing the screen, turning off the backlight etc 00.57.16 # afaik, system_reboot is only used on the ipods to reboot into disk mode. That isn't implemented on the Sansa, so the reboot function probably hasn't been tested. 00.57.33 # linuxstb: ah, ok 01.02.48 Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@85.30.90.249) 01.03.14 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 01.03.52 # Hi, is anyone willing to enable this for Sansa? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7087 01.04.56 # Jeton: Which one - you have three requests there... 01.05.27 # scrollwheel scrolling for text 01.06.16 # "scroll line by line, or page scrolling." is a logical option it should have after that is being enabled, i think. 01.07.21 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 01.08.32 Join Wrathernaut [0] (n=chatzill@udp131352uds.hawaiiantel.net) 01.08.37 Part TrueJournals 01.09.25 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.09.57 # linuxstb: would it be possible to add system_reboot to sansa, or would it be better to just remove that part of the patch? 01.11.00 Part EbErT 01.11.03 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.11.36 # chrisjs169: Someone would need to work out how to reboot the Sansa. 01.12.27 # linuxstb: Ok, so it'd be easier to just take out the reboot menu? 01.12.50 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.14.29 # JdGordon: morning... you got an H3x0, right? 01.17.59 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b17db7.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.18.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.18.49 Quit obo ("bye") 01.20.08 Quit inversions (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.20.13 # does anyone know how to exec the powermenu? 01.21.11 # pixelma: hey, yeah 01.21.28 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 01.21.33 # bbatbbpc: powermenu? 01.22.00 # ww.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6733 01.22.27 # bbatbbpc: how to apply the patch? 01.23.24 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.23.24 Join scorche [0] (i=scorche@208-110-158-190.customer.csolutions.net) 01.23.37 Join bonbonthejon [0] (n=jon@cpe-69-133-37-32.cinci.res.rr.com) 01.24.00 # chiisjs169: patch -p0 < 2007.. i think 01.24.09 # JdGordon: could you test the official "boxes.wps" quickly for me? Maybe you'd need a paper clip but the sim doesn't crash - that's why I'm asking (someone posted in the forum that it would crash his player) 01.24.38 # I already spotted a code error, just wanted to make sure 01.25.35 # the 220x176 version doesnt crash 01.25.37 Quit Wrathernaut ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 01.25.40 # chrisjs169: how do you exec the shtudown? 01.25.55 # looks pretty bad though... but doesnt crash 01.26.21 # im not using svn though.... 070419 01.26.34 # bbatbbpc: On Sansa, just go to Power from the main menu, and select Shutdown 01.26.47 # * JdGordon is slack with updating the h300 :p 01.27.00 # bbatbbpc: I'm guessing it'd be the same with the rest 01.27.05 # pixelma: boxes looks fine on my ipod Color (also 220x176) if that helps... 01.27.16 # JdGordon: hehe, not my invention but I think it should be at least working if it's in svn... 01.27.38 # chrisjs169: ohhh don't got any menu point, how do you apply the patch? 01.28.15 # thanks to both... linuxstb: won't look "right" at the end of the song though - watch the progress bar 01.28.33 # bbatbbpc: from the rockbox source, type patch -p0 < [path to patch] then to the regular compile 01.29.23 # chrisjs169: k , hmm i did that 01.29.39 # chrisjs169: i will retry with the svn source 01.29.55 # bbatbbpc: did you get any errors while patching? 01.30.01 # linuxstb: and thanks for pointing it out - I forgot that the 4g colour had the same resolution 01.30.02 # chrisjs169: no 01.30.50 Join webguest89 [0] (i=43ad8a99@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ed176c5c370c7c6d) 01.31.01 # bbatbbpc: weird - I guess it didn't compile properly or something 01.31.29 # hi i would like to know what i can do with rockbox on my ipod??? 01.31.35 # pixelma: Yes, there's a little problem at the end of the track... 01.32.18 # webguest89: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison might explain some of the features 01.32.23 # i wANT TO KNOW WHAT I CAN MAKE MY IPOD DO WITH ROCKBOX??? 01.32.29 # webguest89: Play music... 01.32.34 # I HAVE A IPOD VIDEO.. 01.32.43 # and a caps lock apparently! 01.33.11 # k thanks for the link 01.33.11 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 01.33.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox#iPod_4G_Color_Photo_Nano_or_Vide lists some more 01.34.36 # And of course http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 01.34.43 Join xxbarrxx [0] (n=CHrister@c-66-30-151-186.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 01.34.48 # hey 01.34.51 # can someone help me 01.34.53 # please 01.35.10 # Just ask a question 01.35.12 # i downloaded rokcbox installed it 01.35.30 # i have another question. are people familiar with ipod linux?? which do youthink is better?? 01.35.38 # and i downloaded a build that had the cd art and all the plugg ins 01.35.40 # and it works 01.35.53 # but it changes the menu and gets rid of the file browser 01.36.09 # so i got the orginal .ipod from rockbox.org's build 01.36.14 # and put it in 01.36.18 # selected it 01.36.22 # and im frozen 01.36.24 # cant shut down 01.36.27 # cant restart 01.36.30 # no buttons work 01.36.33 # please help 01.36.40 # i have an apple 5g video 30gb 01.36.42 # webguest89: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodLinux 01.36.50 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.36.52 # xxbarrxx: Please write longer sentences... 01.36.53 # ok 01.36.58 # ok 01.37.02 # can anyone help me 01.37.04 # shut it off 01.37.07 # webguest89, they're separate entities, with different purposes and goals. that said, they coexist quite nicely on a single iPod. 01.37.10 # or restart 01.37.29 # can anyone help me 01.37.34 # linuxstb, aren't you glad to be listened to 01.37.44 # xxbarrxx, hold Menu and the Center button 01.37.44 # xxbarrxx: Hold down the menu and select buttons for a couple of seconds. 01.37.44 # ohh yea sorry 01.37.50 # ok 01.37.51 # ill try 01.38.04 # 5sec. I believe 01.38.21 # thanks soo muchg 01.38.23 # i tryed that 01.38.26 # and nothing happened 01.38.35 # Seems like it should be four... four seconds is the standard "force shutdown" for computers... isn't it? 01.38.40 # Bagder: not too late to get the hammer out is it? build.rockbox.org has stalled again 01.38.41 # but i guess i didnt wait long enough 01.38.48 # TrueJournals: I thought it was six... 01.38.58 # Maybe there is no standard then 01.39.01 # * TrueJournals shrugs 01.39.12 # I remember on the HP we had in '97, it said 6s 01.39.14 # TrueJournals: There are just lots of standards... 01.39.28 # on my current home-made box I just hit the reset button 01.39.33 # ok i have ipod linux and rockbox can i use both of them at the same time??? i aslo wanto to know if i can use thw downloadable wiki encyclopedia on rockbox??? 01.39.37 # damn kernel panics. 01.39.43 # webguest89: at the same time? No 01.39.46 # webguest89, uh, no, you can not. 01.39.58 # ok 01.40.12 # webguest89: But, you can triple boot between rockbox, iPL, and the Apple Firmware 01.40.19 # can i use the encyclopedia on rockbox though? 01.40.25 # Not currently 01.40.33 # so no? 01.40.43 # Correct, no, you can not 01.40.58 # jhMikeS: SYN 01.41.09 # what is iPL?? oh and thanks fort the help. 01.41.17 # hey, i have another question, can i add file browser back into my rockbox, i downloaded http://www.senab.co.uk/rockbox/default.asp but the file browser(or the thing that lets you look at all your music) i can get to it but there is like a special button combo you need to pres to get back to it 01.41.18 # webguest89: iPL = iPod Linux 01.41.44 # i want to put "File browser" back on my main menu 01.41.49 # what do u mean triple boot? 01.42.06 # go on youtube they have many videos and tutorial on how to triple boot 01.42.17 # oh thank you! 01.42.20 # np 01.42.26 # webguest89: You can set it up so you can choose between iPL, rockbox, and the Apple Firmware when booting 01.42.34 # whats iboy? 01.42.52 # It's a gameboy emulator for iPod Linux if I'm not mistaken... 01.42.53 # iboy? 01.42.54 # xxbarxx: ipodlinux game boy emulator 01.43.04 # ok 01.43.09 # can you put rockbox to sleep like you can with the standerd ipod firmware 01.43.14 # No 01.43.20 # you have to shut it off 01.43.26 # Correct 01.43.32 # thats kinda gay 01.43.37 # Why? 01.43.48 # ah, rockbox is finally running as i want it to 01.43.50 # cus when im in school im always going on and off 01.44.00 # just one more thing befor i leave. can i run ipod linux on my ipod video?? i have a 30GB iPod Video. i can seem to find ipod linux and download it? but i already have rockbox installed it's perfect! 01.44.03 # and its a pain when i have to wait for a reboot 01.44.06 # xxbarrxx, but rockbox boots fast, and it has a "Resume playback" item on the main screen. 01.44.17 # ehh 01.44.20 # webguest89: Yes, you can... check outthe iPod Linux website (google is your friend) 01.44.24 # rockbox boots in maybe 1s, from button press to menu. 01.44.34 # (I think so at least...) 01.44.38 # faster than the default firmware resumes from hibernation. 01.44.44 # not for me 01.44.57 # mine goes into the apple logo for 30 seconds 01.45.04 # xxbarrxx: But it sounds like you're not running the official build... 01.45.15 # correct 01.45.22 # webguest89, iPodLinux is considerably more difficult to install than rockbox. Ponder over if you really need it or not. 01.45.28 # xxbarrxx: which is probably why... 01.45.28 # can someone help me get the patchs into the original biult 01.45.29 # If you see the apple logo for 30 seconds, then something is very wrong with the build you're using. 01.45.31 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.61) 01.45.45 # because i have no knowlage of coding 01.46.05 # and am clueless about patching rockbox so i can show album art, margins or something 01.46.05 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.46.19 # eww ohh boy 01.46.24 # soemthing wrong 01.47.16 # ok i tried Yahoo!, Msn, Ask Jeeves, Dogpile, Google and alot of other search engines!!! It makes me go crazy because i just cant seem to find ipod linux...i cant download it anywhere i just find articles about it... and i really want it for my ipod video!!! 01.47.32 # webguest89: Tried ipodlinux.org ? 01.47.33 # xxbarrxx: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 01.47.34 # why do you want it so bad?? 01.47.36 # i tried Google a million times too!!! 01.47.46 # Yes! 01.47.54 # Then what's the problem? 01.48.04 # maybe its just a universal 01.48.06 # linuz 01.48.08 # linux* 01.48.10 # webguest89: http://ipodlinux.org/Installer_2 01.48.13 # webguest89: http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ 01.48.14 # there yea go 01.48.18 # i cant find the download after reading that site countless times! 01.48.28 # what progress has ipodlinux made in he last 6 months 01.48.30 # ? 01.48.32 # webguest89: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Downloads 01.48.43 # earHertz: might be better off joining #ipodlinux 01.48.54 # heh ;) 01.49.20 # i see 2 different things on the front of ipodlinux.org at a quick glance that jump out at me as download links 01.49.20 # can u please! I'm begging you. If you have a link to the download for iPL for my ipod video!!PLease give me that link PLEASE!!! 01.49.36 # a big bottleneck for us is that we use a debug routine to access the ipod screnn, and it's damned slow 01.49.37 # "Official Installer" under quick links, and "Downloads" in the navigation menu 01.49.46 # FULL LINK: http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/installer/ipodlinux-installer-2.3w.zip 01.49.55 Quit charkins (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.49.57 # HEY,can someone patch a rockbox build with the following patchs(Album Art,Scrolling Margins,and any other good ones) and upload it to rapidshare? 01.50.00 # webguest89: Please visit #ipodlinux - you've already been given about 5 links and this is off-topic for #rockbox 01.50.18 # THANK YOU!! 01.50.22 # * scorche is getting a headache 01.50.33 # xxbarrxx: there are several builds that may fit what you want in teh unsupported builds forum 01.50.33 # * linuxstb goes to #ipodlinux for some peace and quiet 01.50.37 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 01.50.44 # where is this 01.50.48 # can you send link? 01.50.51 # i finaly will finaly have ipod linux and rockbox for my ipod 5g 01.51.01 # i want to do that to 01.51.02 # linuxstb: go to #ipodlinux-dev...even more quiet 01.51.03 Nick chrisjs169 is now known as chrisjs169|afk (n=jack@unaffiliated/chrisjs169) 01.51.10 # scorche: :) 01.51.23 # xxbarrxx: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=36.0 01.51.29 # xxbarrxx: think about it...."unsupported builds forum" 01.51.42 # so lets go to the forum, then the one that says unsupported builds.. 01.52.06 Quit bonbonthejon ("Konversation terminated!") 01.52.09 # is the video pp5020 or pp5002? 01.52.18 # earHertz: DeviceChart 01.52.23 # that means their bad huh 01.52.28 # pp5021 - which is allegedly register-compatible with the pp5020 01.52.47 # thx 01.52.51 # xxbarrxx: that means that if you have problems with them, you ask the build maker about them and not us 01.53.09 # and 5.5 is how compatible with 5/video? 01.53.31 # Almost identical. Main difference is a different logical sector size on the disk. 01.53.31 # just hdd difference? 01.53.36 # WAit a minuite, ona 30gig 5.5g ipod video its bad to duel boot 01.54.01 # "- Dual booting rockbox & original firmware doesn't work for most people using the 30GB 5.5g iPods 01.54.12 # earHertz: The sector-size difference is the only 5.5g specific code in Rockbox. 01.54.13 # works for me 01.54.15 # =) 01.54.31 # earHertz: (detected at run-time) 01.54.48 # weird 01.55.03 # xxbarrxx: I think those are old instructions from before the time of ipodpatcher 01.55.12 # uh huh 01.55.37 # ey ipod linu says that it cant fid my ipod? why? please help they cant help out in their website can you? 01.55.53 # please? 01.56.00 # webguest89: What channel are you in? 01.56.17 # what do you mean? 01.56.28 # How do you play super mario on an ipod video, do you need to have linux? 01.56.39 # webguest89: I mean you're in a channel dedicated to talking about Rockbox... 01.56.57 # ok but can you still help? 01.57.02 # please? 01.57.09 # webguest89: read the topic please 01.57.11 # if i knew you i'de pay you!!! 01.57.16 # at least the link about guidelines 01.57.21 # How do you play super mario on an ipod video, do you need to have linux? 01.57.24 # webguest89: is no one in the ipodlinux chat? 01.57.34 # xxbarrxx: we heard you the first time 01.57.44 # earHertz: he hasnt tried 01.57.44 # please give me that link? 01.57.49 # webguest89: This channel is logged and developers read the logs to keep up with developments. That's why we don't want off-topic chat. 01.57.53 # for the chat/ 01.58.01 # webguest89: ##ipodlinux 01.58.06 # or #ipodlinux 01.58.07 Join charkins [0] (n=casey@pdpc/supporter/active/charkins) 01.58.10 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.58.12 # no one knows how to do that 01.58.21 # chrisjs169: now it works, cause in the past i extracted the wrong build 01.58.28 # he wont be able to join, as he is using our webclient 01.58.28 Quit webguest89 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.58.35 # xxbarrxx: you can play some video games on rockbox 01.58.44 # scorche: oh, whoops 01.59.10 # pixelma: just saw your commit for the boxes wps... did it crash ? 01.59.11 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 01.59.13 # ohh 01.59.50 # MAME games, I think? 02.00.50 Quit amigan ("upgrading the whole machine, yay") 02.00.50 # earHertz: Not MAME itself, but there's a gameboy emulator, a pacman arcade machine emulator, a ZX Spectrum emulator, Doom plus lots of native games. 02.00.58 # is doom really playable on the ipod? 02.01.26 # Nico_P: nope - just fell back to the default on Archos (which still irritates me majorly). With the H300/Ipod Colour version the progress bar was drawn to the end of the line not to the specified end coordinate 02.01.32 # can someone tell me how to do this http://youtube.com/watch?v=qdP0bP3jFAY 02.01.34 # yes it is 02.01.51 # pixelma: OK... normal behaviour thzn 02.01.54 # then 02.01.55 # xxbarrxx: I'm on a slow connection. i'm not going to watch a video 02.02.03 # you need to buy the game(or download =( and go into the registry and get the .wad file 02.02.37 # huh. I wonder if the games work betr with the cop 02.02.44 # let me explaint he video then(its a kid who is using ipl loader(i think) and he is duel booting/triple booting linux,rockbox,and orgininal 02.03.01 # doom plays like garbage 02.03.10 # it really only good for the WOW factor 02.03.15 # its not practicly 02.03.19 # practical* 02.03.56 # wow I'm watching that vid an iPL seems to be very long to boot 02.04.07 # has there been a patch about Dimming the scrollwheel on sansa (looks like i'm all scrollwheeled tonight ;) ) ? 02.04.57 # HEY, another question, If i want to change my build do i have to unistall and reinstall or can i just change the whole .rockbox folder with the new one 02.05.17 # xxbarrxx: You can just replace the .rockbox folder 02.05.24 # fo rizzile 02.06.04 # Nico_P: still I wonder why that wasn't discovered before - did the old system tolerate this much? (Or is it just because not many tried out boxes on Archos/Iriver remotes...) 02.06.04 # this irc channel has been absolutly great 02.06.07 # thanks to everyone 02.07.28 # pixelma: actually I had discovered it once and that's what made me check for unclosed conditionals. At first the code only tolerated them before a newline and then I added more tolerance, which made people ask for zero tolerance 02.07.57 # xxbarrxx: if you haven't updated for a while delete the "rockbox." file from the root of your player, as it is now only to be found _inside_ the .rockbox folder. 02.08.04 # when I made the parser more strict, I had forgotten that some default WPSs had unclosed conds 02.08.41 # huh, the cop does make the games a bit smoother 02.08.50 # uhm, i just updated yesterday 02.08.54 # ami good 02.08.56 # am i good* 02.09.00 Nick chrisjs169|afk is now known as chrisjs169 (n=jack@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.09.07 Quit x1jmp (Remote closed the connection) 02.09.15 # hmm... stallen builds it seems 02.09.16 # as long as you don't have an old file in the root of your player...;) 02.09.29 # root 02.09.31 # ? 02.09.37 # bottom directory 02.09.40 # ? 02.09.44 # im new to this stuff 02.09.52 # envision your directory structure as a tree 02.09.52 # Soap: I thought it was the top... 02.09.58 Quit Jeton (Remote closed the connection) 02.10.14 # will anythign bad happen 02.10.17 # the "trunk" or root directory is the one from which all others branch. 02.10.20 # if i just replace the .rockbox folder 02.10.23 # xxbarrxx: it's unneeded. 02.10.31 # and on older bootloaders it will cause problems. 02.10.42 # this is a new build 02.10.46 # linuxstb: is my thinking upside down? 02.10.53 # being replaced by a new build 02.10.55 # am i good 02.11.00 # or should i unistall 02.11.04 # and then install 02.11.07 # no no no need to uninstall 02.11.13 # just replace 02.11.14 # right 02.11.18 # those aardvark themes are pretty 02.11.31 # Soap: I always think of going down the directory structure, so the root is the top... 02.12.06 # ...people do say "top level" don't they... 02.12.25 # Nico_P: do you remember more .wps in svn that are "wrong"? Should one check some more? 02.12.47 # pixelma: no, I think there weren't any others I didn't correct 02.12.51 # ok 02.13.15 # Can i just replace my .rockbox folder in my dirctory with my new .rockbox folder?YEs or No 02.13.37 # Yes 02.13.37 # what would someone pay for a brand new Archos 10GB player? 02.13.45 # thank you 02.13.48 # simple answer 02.14.13 # Nico_P: ok. I just discovered that boxes didn't work accidentally... 02.14.20 Quit bbatbbpc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.15.06 # im replacing as i type 02.15.15 # ima be pissed if i F***ed it up 02.16.01 # here we go 02.16.13 # Soap: $50? 02.16.14 # xxbarrxx: The only real time you can mess it up is when installing the bootloader... 02.16.21 # ah, $30 02.16.23 # and usually that's recoverable even 02.16.37 # that all earHertz? 02.16.41 # well, players suck compared to recorders 02.16.46 # gues what 02.16.48 # how much for a recorder. 02.16.52 # it boots in 2 seocnds 02.16.55 # he's not being clear on which model it is. 02.16.57 # its great 02.17.16 # I mean, the only people who would want one is an old skool rockbox coder 02.17.38 # I don't think I'm going to be able to lowball this guy that low. 02.17.47 # i almost bought another one, but then, i thought, why? 02.17.48 # He's fixated on the fact it's "new" 02.17.55 # why do you want one? 02.18.05 # why not? 02.18.06 # ;) 02.18.12 # whats database 02.18.19 # you ever owned one? 02.18.20 # perhaps use it as a prize for a future contest. 02.18.22 # earHertz: nope. 02.18.29 # i owned a recorder 02.18.51 # hell, i paid $100 to get it repaired, and teh repaqir shop did absolutely nothinh 02.19.03 # this is what ive been trying to get 02.19.05 # database 02.19.07 # thanks alot 02.19.09 # but compared to an ipod it's the suck 02.19.22 # and hard to code for, because the code space is so tiht 02.19.27 # so limted 02.21.06 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.21.55 # When i change my font , and when i restart will it be the same 02.21.58 # of change 02.22.07 # xxbarrxx: yeah 02.22.10 # xxbarrxx: if you cleanly shutdown it will stay. 02.22.21 # yea 02.22.27 # will it change or wont it 02.22.42 # ohh my B 02.22.47 # clean 02.22.57 # holding play/pause right 02.23.01 # yea 02.23.07 # (assuming iPod) 02.23.16 # yup yup 02.23.30 # ipod 5.5g 30gb video 02.23.33 # proud owner 02.23.50 # so many themes 02.24.01 # for my ipod 02.24.07 # ?> 02.24.26 Part pixelma 02.24.32 # im out 02.24.34 # ill ttyl 02.24.35 # pce 02.24.37 # thanksa gain 02.24.40 Part xxbarrxx 02.26.36 Join amigan [0] (i=dcp1990@unaffiliated/amigan) 02.27.55 Quit amigan (Client Quit) 02.31.18 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 02.32.55 Join amigan [0] (i=dcp1990@unaffiliated/amigan) 02.37.20 Join possible248 [0] (n=Owner@71-210-185-196.mpls.qwest.net) 02.41.55 Part possible248 02.42.30 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.200.219) 02.58.00 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.01.12 Part TrueJournals 03.11.26 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.12.10 # linuxstb: ping...did you happen to check that patch on a clean build? I've done some serious checking and issues don't seem to have to do with the lock itself. 03.14.20 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.17.59 Quit netmasta10bt (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.18.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.21.52 Part TrueJournals 03.24.48 Join Ishmael [0] (i=Dishma@140.247.40.60) 03.24.52 Join JdGor|uni [0] (i=82c20d66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fb3d6f7494af37cd) 03.24.53 # hey, yielding in the pp i2c driver is BAAD especially with an i2c backlight called by interrupts...oy 03.29.20 Quit skatteola ("ima shinda kara, tabe ni koi!") 03.29.47 # oy the GPIO screen works now, heh 03.30.16 Quit Ishmael () 03.30.19 Join Hammer89 [0] (n=soc_inte@host-24-149-166-187.patmedia.net) 03.31.25 # jhMikeS: Sorry, not yet. I'm busy with real work... 03.32.06 # it seems the i2c calls yield...I don't know why this mistake is made over and over again. 03.35.35 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.36.13 # omg what a difference...the darn thing actually runs now 03.36.32 Join Ishmael [0] (i=Dishma@140.247.40.60) 03.38.33 # linuxstb: what are you doing real work for? stick to important stuff! :p 03.39.06 # jhMikeS: whatcha got working? 03.39.14 Join ze__ [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 03.39.28 # the stickiness of the sansa is gone 03.39.57 # calling yield in the i2c driver messes some thing up bad 03.39.58 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.40.05 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 03.40.06 # awesome :) 03.40.24 # * JdGor|uni wishes he had the sansa cable here to test said changes 03.40.46 # I think that should just be remove from there for all targets because it allows another thread to mess up communications as well as interrupts 03.41.17 Quit Mouser_X () 03.41.29 # and interrupts can never use scheduler functions execept to wake a thread throught queue_post/send 03.42.34 # the driver mutexing exclusion needs to be fixed but this shows a big problem area 03.44.19 Join webguest28 [0] (i=3d588390@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ee2aad4db0b459e7) 03.44.57 Part TrueJournals 03.46.07 Quit webguest28 (Client Quit) 03.46.14 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.46.20 # how do i change themes on rockbox (gigabeat f40)? 03.46.26 # austriancoder: re your hardware API proposal.. couldnt all this be done in the target tree? 03.46.38 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.46.51 # i went to settings, selected the theme (it said "Loading..."), and i restarted the player 03.46.59 # but nothing changed 03.49.28 Quit Hammer89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.49.45 Join Hammer89 [0] (n=soc_inte@host-24-149-166-187.patmedia.net) 03.50.26 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 03.52.38 Quit JdGor|uni ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.53.18 Join possible248 [0] (n=Owner@71-210-185-196.mpls.qwest.net) 03.53.28 Part possible248 03.57.23 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.57.35 Quit charkins ("Ex-Chat") 04.01.08 # I know that a little bit ago there was a commit to prevent rockbox from loading WPSs that wouldn't function correctly... was this supposed to show an error if you tried to load one? 04.02.18 Join JdGor|uni [0] (i=82c20d66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1d3a5e3d64216f03) 04.03.08 # and is there a way to prevent this check from happening? 04.04.26 Join hentai [0] (n=hentai@cpe-72-178-37-201.elp.res.rr.com) 04.05.35 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 04.05.35 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.05.56 # it loads the default WPS upon failure, as for the second part of your question, I do not believe there is a way to bypas the behavior. 04.06.35 # TrueJournals: The idea is that the parser is strict - to make sure WPSs comply with the specification. It wouldn't make any sense to have a "relaxed" version of the parser as well... 04.06.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.07.09 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.07.29 # In that case... can you help me figure out what's wrong with this WPS code: http://www.pastebin.ca/465319 04.07.34 # linuxstb: I figured... 04.07.53 # there is a new command line toggle on the simulators to aid in debugging, FWIW. 04.08.58 # * TrueJournals sighs 04.10.05 # TrueJournals: Sorry, I don't know the WPS syntax at all. But as Soap said, the "--debugwps" option in the sim may help. 04.10.26 # Does someone build the sims so I don't have to build one? 04.10.36 # the guys on the forums who are ace with WPS don't seem to hang out on IRC much. 04.10.37 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/ 04.10.46 # Thanks 04.10.48 # there is a stock sim built every day 04.10.54 # does rasher have the newer sims online? 04.11.13 # okay, i guess it was a bad theme 04.11.19 # JdGor|uni: I expect so - he was here a couple of days ago complaining that the builds were broken 04.11.25 # seems he does... 04.11.40 # i got another one working, but now i have black font on black background :( 04.12.19 # Hold A as you boot, that will reset your settings. Or connect to your computer and delete or edit .rockbox/config.cfg 04.12.32 # ah, thank you 04.16.33 # OK... perhaps someone can help me with the WPS debugger then... I got the error "The application or DLL O:\rockboxsiom\archos\_temp_codec0.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette." Does this mean the first codec image in the WPS is referenced bad? 04.17.08 # when do you get that error? 04.17.17 # When it loads the now playing screen 04.17.41 # close the sim,. delete it then try again 04.17.54 # ok... 04.18.18 # Just happens again 04.18.55 Quit hentai ("leaving") 04.19.12 # have you got the codec .rocks? and your trying to play a real music track? 04.19.23 # we need a way to view the wps without playing music :p 04.19.27 # yes and yes... 04.19.45 # TrueJournals: Have you got the rocks for the sim, or the rocks for a real device? 04.19.56 # ah, that's the problem 04.19.59 # duh 04.21.52 # OK, I run with --debugwps and it doesn't do anything extra really... just loads the default WPS instead of the one I want 04.22.07 # you need to run the .wps.... 04.22.40 # Through the simulator? 04.22.54 # JdGor|uni: You mean load the .wps file directly, and not via a theme .cfg? 04.22.56 # In the sim, going to Files > .rockbox > wps > click on the wps I want? 04.23.06 # I did that... 04.23.41 # linuxstb: either would do.... 04.23.50 # TrueJournals: you didnt get any debug output? 04.23.52 # I tried both ways... 04.24.03 # Where am I supposed to be getting debug output? 04.24.44 # stderr.txt or stdou.txt i tinhk 04.24.49 # stdout.txt 04.25.07 # which would be in the same folder as rockboxui.exe? 04.26.17 Quit Ishmael () 04.26.28 # should be 04.26.33 # I wouldn't need to create this file, would I? (There's no stdout.txt or stderr.txt) 04.26.50 # how are you running the sim? from the command prompt? 04.26.55 # yes 04.27.14 # command I'm using is rockboxui.exe --debugwps --zoom 04.27.52 # do you get debug output in the command prompt? 04.28.20 # No, when I hit enter, it pops up the sim and gives me another prompt 04.28.25 # you might have to close the sim for the files to be closed.. so you can view them 04.29.16 # I did rockboxui.exe --debugwps --zoom > test.txt and text.txt now has WPS debug mode enabled. and Window Zoom is 2 04.29.26 # but no other text files created 04.31.00 # Well, I have to go... 04.31.13 # See ya... and thanks for the help... 04.31.16 Part TrueJournals 04.34.06 Quit JdGor|uni ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.34.26 Quit devDelay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.36 Join devDelay [0] (n=devDelay@c-68-57-238-61.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 04.39.02 Quit Hammer89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.46.43 Quit barrywardell_ () 04.48.09 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 05.00.10 Join nvz1 [0] (i=a@cpe-24-24-93-5.stny.res.rr.com) 05.18.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.02 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 05.20.13 Join webguest47 [0] (i=4673ec9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e1e2ffa136fc2174) 05.22.48 Quit webguest47 (Client Quit) 05.22.58 Join webguest47 [0] (i=4673ec9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec28c6803d2b0ac8) 05.27.28 Quit webguest47 (Client Quit) 05.30.46 Join tri170391 [0] (n=tri17039@125.234.69.136) 05.31.04 Quit tri170391 (Client Quit) 05.31.07 Join tri170391 [0] (n=tri17039@125.234.69.136) 05.31.24 Join aliask|uni [0] (i=82c20d66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d1f1f15ba97f3649) 05.31.30 Join syntaxman [0] (n=syntaxma@kernel-panic/member/syntaxman) 05.33.55 # Anyone have any recommendations for replacing the battery in a 1st gen nano? 05.34.56 # i have heard people have had good results with google 05.36.32 # I saw links in google to people who would do it. I just like to have some clue as to who is good, and who is a rip-off :) 05.36.45 # well, that is off-topic 05.37.17 Join webguest85 [0] (i=18aab820@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2535efc29d4e2cba) 05.37.47 # sorry. I /was/ trying to get rockbox installed on it. 05.38.27 # first time on this . Hello 05.38.30 # that is alright...this just isnt a general hardware help channel 05.38.59 Quit tri170391 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 05.39.11 Quit hostf4cekilla ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 05.39.11 Quit webguest85 (Client Quit) 06.00.14 Quit aliask|uni ("CGI:IRC") 06.04.27 Quit barrywardell () 06.07.38 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 06.12.29 Quit Jon-Kha (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 06.13.36 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.13.55 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.14.23 Join dankole [0] (n=efdsf@207-47-218-51.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 06.14.58 # dont wanna be abother but can someone tell me how to delete files off my iriver hp120 06.15.00 # ? 06.15.34 # how to i empty the recycle bin or whatever 06.17.49 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.21 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181085205.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.20.52 Join webguest71 [0] (i=d3b22c16@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7d61c723b287cfd3) 06.21.51 # hello. i need some help. i've just installed rockbox to my 5th generation ipod according to the instructions on the rockbox site from my linux machine. AFter reloading, all I get is the silver apple. anyone there? 06.31.14 # * joshin is here but has a Gigabeat and Sansa so can only suggest that you recheck the manual to find what miniscule thing you did wrong. 06.32.54 Quit barrywardell () 06.33.21 # i'm doing that now 06.34.01 # i got the rockbox bootloader to come on, it said 'failed checksum' 06.35.34 Join jba [0] (i=cb30655b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-191a70fbe1049db2) 06.36.37 # jhmikes: hey dude did you end up looking further into the ineffectual bass controls on gigabeat? 06.37.17 # jba: not yet...I'm backed up big time atm 06.38.06 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 06.39.00 # jhMikeS: aah cool 06.39.18 # just thought i'd check in from work, now that you are experiencing it, it's peaked my interest in it again 06.39.39 # wonder if it's like the old rockbox lcd setting issue 06.39.52 # trying to store a 4bit number in 3 bits of word 06.40.44 # jba: I don't know, similar problems happen on sansa but randomly. Probably not the same reason though. 06.41.24 # hmm 06.41.40 # but you guys reckon software eq is good for bass? 06.41.45 # i wanted to avoid the battery drain 06.43.27 # It seems better than the tone controls atm 06.43.54 # i'll try that then 06.44.01 # catch you guys round 06.45.40 # can anyone help me install to ipod from Linux? I've been over the instructions in the manual three times and don't see where I went wrong. 06.47.23 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 06.52.06 Quit barrywardell () 06.52.07 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 06.54.31 Quit webguest71 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.54.39 Join webguest78 [0] (i=d3b22c16@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0db6ec237646aa7c) 06.55.26 # i've read the installation instructions three times from the manual. can someone help me install rockbox to my 5g ipod from linux 06.55.32 # pretty please? 06.57.08 # webguest, it sounds like your rockbox.ipod file is in the wrong place on your player 06.57.48 # thanks. i unzipped it into the player, but its hidden 06.58.05 # yes, in linux .rockbox is a hidden folder 06.58.18 # so that's no problem? 06.58.36 # it's meant to be hidden in linux 06.58.49 # so, no problem as long as you didn't rename it 06.59.56 # nothing like that happening. But I think it's in the right place. It's in the root, along with such things as "calender', "I-pod control" etc. 07.00.03 # it specifically needs to be in /.rockbox/rockbox.ipod (relative to your player's mount point) 07.00.48 # so this is what I've got....IPOD/.rockbox 07.00.54 # there's no rockbox.ipod 07.01.13 # inside .rockbox you should have rockbox.ipod 07.01.56 Quit barrywardell () 07.02.42 # there is a rockbox.ipod, but it's not a folder, it's a program 07.03.06 Quit jba ("CGI:IRC") 07.03.08 # yes, it's a binary file, and it should be in .rockbox 07.03.18 # it's there. check. 07.03.25 # is your player formatted as fat32? 07.04.19 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 07.04.34 Part ctaf 07.05.01 # i haven't checked, but when i first set it up, i set it up on a windows machine, so i'm assuming... 07.05.34 Quit gromit` ("Coyote finally caught me") 07.05.48 # probably is, try copying rockbox.ipod to / 07.07.57 # gave it a shot, and still nothing but the silver apple 07.12.31 # I thought you said it was telling you invalid checksum? 07.13.06 # when the hold key is on, yeah, if not, the apple 07.13.25 # bad checksum 07.13.36 # it is fat32 07.14.30 # I'm not sure what's causing it right now, most people are asleap right now who have better experience with the ipods/installation from linux, I didn't think that you had to have hold on by default... 07.15.02 # seems strange 07.15.08 # thanks for the help 07.15.09 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 07.18.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.28.07 # jhMikeS: still around? 07.30.54 # kkurbjun, started from scratch and voila, it worked. Thanks for your time. 07.33.15 # JdGordon: yes 07.33.38 Quit earHertz ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 07.33.49 # btw, do we want a dual core atomic i2c driver or not? 07.34.42 # jhMikeS: got a patch for the e200 that I can test out? 07.35.10 # Alrighty, I'll make one up 07.35.52 # Just the i2c right? The rest of my source tree is a mess right now. 07.37.24 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 07.40.46 Quit webguest78 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.43.36 # JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/MichaelSevakis?rev=1;filename=i2c_pp_no_yield.patch.txt 07.43.59 Part toffe82 07.44.28 # Bagder: Hanging build 07.44.58 # jhMikeS: ta 07.47.08 # jhMikeS: the wheel is usable while it buffers! :D awesome! 07.47.35 Join kyleande [0] (i=8eb3f144@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8278b1396f64d324) 07.47.48 # jhMikeS: Why not yield in the i2c driver? 07.48.19 # That pretty much makes one core stop while waiting for end of transfer... 07.48.35 # Hi there, can anyone point me to how to debug a wps? I am running the sansa uisimulator with the --debugwps option, but I'm not sure where the information is exported to. 07.49.08 Quit barrywardell () 07.52.47 # bad news to have thing interruptable there 07.53.37 # I never noticed any problems... ??? 07.53.41 # JdGordon: and you can actually use the ports screen 07.54.18 # :) cool 07.54.25 # the e200 calls the i2c driver during interrupts as well 07.54.43 # Oh? 07.54.51 # Not nice.... is that necessary? 07.55.11 # And if it is... it should still yield when not called from an interrupt 07.55.14 # yes, backlight and oh, I forget 07.55.38 # Backlight isn't done from an interrupt, unless the e200 does it different than all other targets 07.56.15 # The archos recorders also use i2c for the backlight, that's why there is a thread that just gets messages from the backlight tick 07.56.32 # ...and then switches backlight in standard context 07.57.19 # right, even if not, then another thread getting in there messes things up ... I tracked it all down and just let it slip my mind once I finshed up 07.57.33 # :\ 07.57.43 Quit kyleande ("CGI:IRC") 07.57.48 # On ipods this yield really is no problem at all 07.58.03 # 3 more menu_init()'s in the core to go :) 07.58.41 # JdGordon: Was the increase with the new api for the debug menu really that massive? I did an experiment once, and got ~+200 bytes 07.59.01 # another problem with yield there is the same as the ATA driver 07.59.23 # where lower priority threads could lock out high priority ones 07.59.42 # amiconn: i still have the diff with the proper way and it was something likke 500bytes on h300, and 1700 on sansa! 07.59.51 # didnt check rec 08.00.07 # I only checked sh targets 08.00.53 # jhMikeS: Bah, nasty priority scheduling again.... 08.01.13 # well... imo its not even worth 200bytes... heck, I'd be for not even adding that menu to regular builds 08.01.24 # just have to be careful, maybe priority_yield and spinlocks would be better for that one too 08.01.26 # the 50byte increase is about all I'd want to add for that menu 08.01.46 # if in fact an IRQ never touches it, i'll try that out 08.02.41 # Hmm, I wonder whether it's prossible to detect if the cpu is in an isr 08.03.06 # In that case it might be an idea to make yield() panic when called in isr context 08.03.21 # on cf, yes, on ARM, I've found nothing or I'd use it for core locking 08.03.39 # How would you do it on cf? 08.03.48 Quit marc ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 08.04.16 # it's in the status register 08.04.47 # I was going to use it but would bloat set_irq_level too much because the bit would have to always be preserved 08.06.30 # Ah, the M bit 08.07.44 # The preserving would only be necessary if an isr calls set_irq_level(). Does it? 08.09.09 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.09.34 # yes, all over the place 08.10.07 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.10.33 # I'll also bet yielding in the i2c driver makes it wait a long time especially if something CPU intensive is running like a codec 08.10.41 # On arm you can figure out the mode from the mode bits 08.11.07 # jhMikeS: Yes, but that is desired behaviout 08.11.12 # *behaviour 08.11.19 # i2c can also take some time 08.11.28 # does that actually speed things up overall? 08.12.20 # Iirc lostlogic once solved problems with slow i2c to/from the ipod rtc 08.12.27 # ok 08.13.11 # Check out the M bits in the CPSR/SPSR ... 08.13.20 # (regarding modes on arm) 08.13.39 Quit ceaser (Remote closed the connection) 08.18.54 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.19.35 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.19.40 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b17db7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.20.36 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.21.01 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b17db7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.21.47 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.26.13 # * jhMikeS seems to have fixed the remaining core lock problem...hmmm...storing the old irq level _before_ disabling them seems to be bad indeed :P 08.28.34 # flooding it with scroll messages would corrupt the statically saved previous level rather quickly 08.29.04 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.31.40 # yup 08.32.05 # Ideally irq level read+change should be atomic 08.33.30 # it should be since an interrupt after a read will restore the register with the read value 08.36.30 # well, I can't seem to lock up either core now...should be solid now...and it's not aborting with any lock violations either 08.36.45 # but it never did do the second 08.38.18 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 08.38.48 # oh, and there are two separate irq levels so it's not a problem with dual 08.38.50 # Bagder: ping... 08.39.25 Quit pondlife (Client Quit) 08.39.44 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 08.40.08 # I see a new month has started for the build server already... 08.41.16 # pondlife: a day early though... 08.41.41 # 2 actually... 08.41.54 # pondlife ? 08.42.14 # Bagder mentioned a while ago that builds fail after a monthly reboot. 08.42.40 # Normally on the 1st, but a bit early this time, by the look of it. 08.42.57 # Hmm, are you referring to the red or to the hanging build? 08.43.06 # The hanging build 08.46.59 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-309633a7e47da0b1) 08.49.01 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14EE4.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.50.35 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=bryan@host-83-146-14-9.bulldogdsl.com) 08.51.17 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.171.218) 08.52.50 Quit GodEater__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.04.42 Join crop [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec671cc53fcac6f8) 09.04.50 # JdGordon: hey 09.05.00 # ho 09.05.13 # let's go? 09.05.19 Quit barrywardell () 09.05.36 # * petur starts humming a Ramones tune 09.05.47 # JdGordon: after the core RB doesn't use the old menu API, can we delete the old API from the core and make it a plugin lib instead? 09.06.02 # JdGordon: would be a good thing IMO 09.06.27 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.06.45 # thats the plan 09.06.48 # JdGordon: and another question: replacing the old with the new menu API has reduced the bin size in the past IIRC. How did increase it in the last commit? 09.07.25 # the big reduction happened more with removing all the sub menus and the million calls to set_option... 09.07.33 # the latest round didnt really do that so much 09.08.38 # JdGordon: How would Iuse the new api in a plugin, btw? 09.09.03 # There are examples for using the new menu api itself, but excluding settings 09.09.05 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.09.10 # amiconn: iirc, 2 plugins use it already in two different ways 09.09.29 # ah... settings dont work for the plugins yet im afraid 09.09.56 # JdGordon: what should PLAY do in the quick screen (I'm speaking about H120)? It doesn't do anything atm. Wouldbe good if it would leave the screen. 09.10.21 # * JdGordon doesnt know.. return to wps would be ok I guess.. 09.11.45 # My habit is that PLAY goes to WPS (if the music is plaing) from anywhere. But that's not the case for the quick screen. 09.13.37 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 09.13.48 # * JdGordon slowly converting onplay.c 09.14.28 # * crop awaits banning the old menu API from the core 09.18.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.20.35 # am I right in thinking its impossible to open the wps context menu without a file being selected? 09.21.34 # Maybe we don't need to move the oldapi wrapper to the plugin lib as an intermediate step. Afaik there aren't that many problems using core menus 09.22.13 # ? 09.22.47 # *that many plugins even 09.24.21 # amiconn: you mean we can leave the old API in place, convert the remaining plugins and then remove the old API alltogether? 09.24.22 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.24.34 # you rekon we should convert all the plugins before removing the wrappers? 09.24.42 Join scorche [0] (i=scorche@208-110-158-190.customer.csolutions.net) 09.24.55 # I think that should be doable and save some work 09.24.59 # doing the priority_yield/spinlock thing in the i2c driver solves it too and to everyone's satisfaction :) 09.25.09 # (the work needed for moving the old api to the plugin lib) 09.25.45 # This move would require touching every plugin that uses it anyway 09.25.57 # I was planning to just grab the old menu code from svn and copy it straight into the plugin lib.. so no real work 09.26.36 # All the calls would need to be changed (rb-> stripped) 09.26.48 # JdGordon: any chance on thorough commenting of the menu code? *G* Last time I look there was hardly a word there. 09.27.02 # always a chance... 09.27.13 Quit syntaxman (Remote closed the connection) 09.27.47 # once we can get rid of the old api i'm plannig onn trying to simplify that code anyway.. so comments will be part of that 09.27.53 # Any Ipod experts around? Is this a first-gen Nano... http://www.cancomuk.com/products/search.htm?code=57742C&Apple_iPod_nano_2Gb_White_%5BClearance_Item%5D_&pricesInc=1 09.31.29 # * jhMikeS guesses he'll commit the improved driver sans priority inversion 09.33.12 # also, is there and reason that the return value from set_irq_level should be treated as anything but a cookie with no meaning to the caller? I can speed up the ARM one if it doesn't matter. The Coldfire one pretty much works that way anyway. 09.39.33 # afaik it returns the previous level? 09.40.14 # petur: in some sense...but it's really not important what the value is and long as it understands it as a parameter 09.41.26 # oldlevel = set_irq_level(newlevel); do stuff; set_irq_level(oldlevel); 09.41.28 # coldfire doesn't mask any bits off...it just takes/returns whatever other garbage is in %sr 09.41.43 # yes 09.42.07 # if that works it should be ok I guess 09.42.16 # yeah, so who cares what oldlevel represents 09.42.26 # other than the old level of course :P 09.45.20 # pondlife: looks like one, yes 09.45.26 # is it such a big deal if the onplay menu doesnt quit straight after coming out of one of its options? 09.46.46 # * jhMikeS doesn't even know where the onplay menu is 09.46.56 # the context menus... 09.47.48 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp60-88.adsl.forthnet.gr) 09.48.25 # why's it called that instead of context_menu? 09.49.12 # who knows :p 09.49.26 # presumably from very very early on 09.49.29 # sounds like something that gets executed when you play something 09.50.19 # Should all menu options pin the menu? 09.50.49 # pin the menu? 09.50.56 # keep it displayed 09.51.42 Quit dankole (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.52.09 # I'm not sure I'd mind it staying active 09.52.12 # well, in svn, in the onplay menus, as soon as the context item exits your put back in the tree/wps... if I dont have to do this it makes life muche asier :) 09.52.43 # Actually selecting an item from Open With... should still close it :) 09.55.51 Join himitsu [0] (n=himitsu@203.205.119.118) 09.58.15 # Hmm, Sansa e250 or Ipod Nano...? Any opinions? 09.58.36 # pondlife: to buy? 09.58.43 # Yes, for Mrs Pondlife 09.58.51 # She wants a tiny player 09.58.53 # both? 09.58.57 # pondlife: looks expensive though 09.58.58 # sansa is fatter, but much bigger screen... 09.59.08 # Smaller is better. 09.59.10 # the nano wheel is annoying imo 09.59.10 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 09.59.27 # Must fit a smallish pocket 09.59.33 # * jhMikeS won't even make the obligatory joke about what pondlife said 09.59.42 # about 156-ish just seems way too much imo 09.59.46 # rofl 09.59.56 # lol 10.00.04 # pondlife: both will fit in all but the smallest pockets 10.00.21 # OK, Sansa is looking more likely 10.00.37 # How's the UI responsiveness under Rockbox? 10.00.50 # much better once jhMikeS commits 10.01.03 # sound is still dodgey without a patch 10.01.28 # Is the OF ok? 10.01.45 # its on par with ipod... 10.02.06 # So perfectly usable until the Rockbox sound is fixed. That'll do... 10.02.27 # I thought I'd like to get a second test DAP at the same time ;) 10.05.14 # JdGordon: already did :) 10.05.25 # yay :) 10.05.55 # Now just need Bagder to kick the server... 10.06.23 # well, you can still update anyway 10.07.58 # I have 10.08.05 # the scrollwheel needs to trigger interrupts to work right but I've no clue atm how to set it up yet 10.10.18 Join bluebrother [0] (i=FW6uaMA3@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.10.55 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 10.11.03 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 10.11.32 # oh. Hanging build again? 10.14.31 Quit Seed (Client Quit) 10.14.57 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 10.20.57 # yay! finally got the onplay menu working correctly again... and didnt even have to add all that many hacks in :p 10.24.34 # JdGordon: can't you come up with a menu system which doesn't require hacks? 10.25.09 # probably... but where would the fun in that be? 10.25.21 # then he wouldn't be a hacker, would he? ;-) 10.25.45 # june 22 is my last exam... then 4 weeks to do nothing but fix my bad code ;p 10.25.52 # rrr...why do I always see better optimizations _after_ staring at colored diffs? :P 10.35.21 # jhMikeS: I don't know what priority_yield does exactly, but is it something we should use in the gigabeat drivers as well? 10.36.35 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 10.37.13 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.37.34 # markun: anytime you yield within a held lock it should be used or when speedy looping/checking is needed 10.38.52 # jhMikeS: what about the yield in ata-meg-fx.c for example? 10.39.22 # hmmm...lemme look 10.39.53 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1300d0b294ab4e7f) 10.40.07 # I don't know if any of the sleeps should be changed as well 10.41.06 # based on a recent (and apparently recurring) topic in the forums on the status of the 80GB iPod port - I've made an IpodEightyGB wiki page with rough details on the outstanding issues, and linked it from the IpodPort page. Hope everyone's happy with it. 10.41.13 # in copy_read_sectors, yes, it should be changed 10.41.24 # the sleeps are just fine I think 10.42.15 # Would also be nice if someone provided this link in the recently locked topic regarding the issue in the forums 10.42.34 # jhMikeS: in the i2c code we have a for loop for the delay.. do you think that should be changed? 10.42.52 # JdGordon: The context menu should always leave after seleting an option... not doing this would be annoying 10.43.01 # same for the sc606 driver 10.43.14 # jhMikeS: It's called onplay menu because of the way it was called in the beginning 10.43.22 # yes, those should be little assembly loops so that they're more accurate 10.43.38 # amiconn: when you pushed play in some context? 10.43.48 # Before the Ondio was supported by rockbox, there was no distinction between short and long presses, so many things needed combos 10.44.03 # The combo for the onplay menu was.... On+Play 10.44.29 # amiconn: yeah ok... all fixed now 10.44.47 # ah, makes sense in the old days then...not like renaming is a chore to do 10.46.46 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 10.47.12 # Bagder: ping...... 10.50.08 # amiconn: its been down all day.. there isnt any rush getting it back up :p 10.52.12 # Hanging central server and none of the 3 admins around is annoying.... 10.53.56 # couldn't there be a restricted command to have others so authorized be able to give it a kick? 10.54.05 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host228-203-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.54.07 # it would be nice... 10.57.05 # if they could set up some sort of restricted admin if they're too afraid to have one of us goons have full access 11.01.35 Join Slaygon [0] (i=slagge@c64.org) 11.01.50 # jhMikeS: that's exacly what sudo is for :) 11.02.12 Nick Slaygon is now known as Slagge (i=slagge@c64.org) 11.02.37 Part Slagge 11.03.43 # they should sudo up then 11.05.10 # markun: is there any kind of usec timer on the gigabeat? 11.07.28 # jhMikeS: not like the portalplayers 11.07.47 # could we use a normal timer for that or something? 11.08.33 # like what? not an interrupt timer for sure. I guess it's asm loops then if no usec timer. 11.09.21 # coldfire has a usec timer but I don't think we use it at all 11.10.16 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.12.20 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.12.30 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.13.37 # jhMikeS: the RTC in the s3c2440 offers only seconds as the lowest time unit and I didn't find anything else 11.14.05 # ah, I think that's a little coarse even for i2c :) 11.14.40 # coldfire has an usec timer?? 11.14.59 # Ehm... sorry, what is a usec timer? 11.15.22 # crop: A microsecond timer. Basically a hardware register that increments a million times a second. 11.15.37 # yeah, there's a counter in there 11.16.07 # * amiconn doesn't know about one 11.16.18 # * preglow neither 11.16.28 # linuxstb: I found a booboo in the patch I gave you and now I have no lock problems at all...wanna check it out? 11.16.35 # linuxstb: beginning with boot/power up? 11.16.57 # * jhMikeS will cite his source momentarily 11.17.54 # crop: Yes 11.18.51 # ummm...section 11 in the UM 11.19.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.19.22 Join Nuru [0] (n=nuru666@83.143.232.246) 11.19.34 # or no, there's something else there... 11.19.56 # Why 11.20.21 # that's a deep question 11.20.31 # I'm tempted to answer "Because" 11.21.01 # jhMikeS: Section 11 describes the general purpose timers... 11.21.03 # jhMikeS: Sure, I'll test another patch. 11.21.04 # )) Ok< Sorry for my english. What i need to do? 11.21.18 # Nuru: What is your problem? 11.21.21 # Nuru: you need to ask your question (if you have one) 11.21.38 # amiconn: there's something else there but it's not a big section or anything, it's short duration though 11.21.51 # linuxstb: aright, one moment 11.21.55 # linuxstb, now, rockbox showing me that it's 12:Mc on clock, not 12:21 11.22.02 # it's dont show minutes 11.22.09 # what is "it"? 11.22.30 # the clock on your pc? The sun? 11.22.52 # maybe he has a WPS with an old time syntax 11.22.52 # bluebrother, now on my pc 12:22 11.23.05 # hm, maybe 11.23.32 # possible. If he has problems with the clock display on the wps ;-) 11.23.37 # jhMikeS: The general purpose timers are quite different from the free-running usec timer on PP though... timers on coldfire need special handling to make them (nearly) independent of the cpu clock 11.23.40 # and how i can fix this? ) 11.23.52 # by changing the wps tag to the new syntax 11.24.07 # open the wps file with any text editor and change the tag. 11.25.10 # ok, thanks 11.25.13 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964C96.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.25.57 # amicon: I realize it's not identical in that sense but I've gotta find this thing again 11.26.59 # Well, I never found another thing than those 2 general purpose timers... 11.27.17 # * amiconn likes that the SH1 has 5 timers, not just 2 11.27.19 # bluebrother, what is the name of minutes tag? 11.27.20 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp48-102.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 11.27.45 # bluebrother, cH - hours tag 11.27.57 # cM is minutes 11.28.01 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodmini2g/rockbox-buildap2.html#x14-234000B.14 11.28.36 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 11.28.37 # linuxstb: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/MichaelSevakis?rev=2;filename=core_lock.patch.txt 11.30.48 # bluebrother, strange, i changed line to %bl%%%ac%cH:cM%ar%?fc and rockbox showing me 12:cM 11.31.24 # whoops 11.31.31 # i think i know my mistake 11.32.17 # Yeah, now works. Thanks 11.38.39 # yeah, I guess that is what I saw on coldfire 11.39.22 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AF7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.43.31 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.45.27 # jhMikeS: It froze about 10 seconds into Elephants Dream... 11.45.35 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.45.51 # jhMikeS: Backlight still on, disk still spinning. 11.46.58 # jhMikeS: I'm compiling a clean SVN now. 11.48.33 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.206.118) 11.49.41 # hmmm... 11.52.23 # the lock itself is sound. it never brought up a complaint re: a reentry attempt or corruption so it must be some other issue 11.52.53 Part Nuru 11.53.55 # linuxstb: it was just playing with no interaction? 11.54.44 # Bagder: Ping......... 11.55.28 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 11.56.43 # jhMikeS: I think so... I'm just testing clean SVN mpegplayer now, then I'll retest with only your patch applied. 11.57.25 # amiconn: http://www.haxx.se/contact.html 11.57.33 # amiconn: the increasing number of dots reminds me of this image: http://blog.beetlebum.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/router.jpg ;-) 11.58.34 # jhMikeS: Clean svn mpegplayer seems stable as a rock... 11.59.56 # linuxstb: yes, but which rock? 12.00.10 # *.rock of course 12.00.13 Join merwin [0] (n=merwin@72.86.29.230) 12.00.15 # ok 12.00.27 # linuxstb: no patch, right? 12.01.01 # jhMikeS: Yes, no patch. 100% clean svn 12.01.09 Part merwin 12.02.31 # ok, now I'm thinking where something might be violating the changed code...which model iPod again? 12.05.34 # Color/Photo 12.05.56 # (it's the same device, Apple just changed the name halfway through its lifetime) 12.09.30 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-0bb7508c375ff462) 12.11.34 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 12.11.51 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6769.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.16.55 Quit DiDjCodt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.17.47 Join DiDjCodt [0] (n=djc@poy.chewa.net) 12.23.49 # jhMikeS: With your patch applied to a clean SVN, mpegplayer randomly freezes within the first 10-15 seconds (sometimes less), without me touching anything. 12.24.57 # very odd, on sansa I can't freeze it no matter what I try, it's just the same as svn 12.25.50 # Welcome to the world of portalplayer... 12.26.47 # one of those things I could probably track down if I had a device but that's a tedious, long bunch of organized checks 12.27.26 # How would you investigate it? 12.28.34 # well, what sort of lock is it? both cores just freeze immediately? one, then then other. on sansa, the problem would show up on one core and video would keep going 12.29.07 # but that was due to an instruction order 12.29.26 # If you play music, what happens? 12.30.20 # jhMikeS: It works fine. 12.30.43 # interesting, cause you do have the main cop thread running 12.32.17 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 12.32.29 Part ctaf 12.32.49 # Well, first, I'd enable the extra checks and compare the C and ASM locks 12.34.19 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.36.20 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 12.38.04 # Maybe before that, make sure yesterday's patch isn't the one applied :P 12.38.55 # c42e1d09972ef9f93df997583b4c23a7 core_lock.patch.txt ? 12.40.10 # pondlife: 78 pounds for a 2GB Nano is pricy 12.40.52 # oh, scorche alrealy spoke up on that point. 12.41.04 # linuxstb: where are you picking that number from? 12.41.42 # Soap: Thanks. Any cheap places you can point me to.. for a first-gen Nano to the UK. 12.42.18 # I can only find 2nd gen ones. 12.42.38 # (Not second-hand.) 12.44.20 # jhMikeS: It's the md5sum of the text file. 12.45.08 # though it was a hash, so you just run md5sum? 12.45.23 # Yes, just "md5sum filename" 12.45.33 # c42e1d09972ef9f93df997583b4c23a7 12.45.39 # pondlife: lots of people /were/ selling them on ebay. 12.45.47 # Not second hand, factory refurbushed. 12.46.41 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 12.47.56 # I paid $90 for my 4GB locally. 12.48.36 # I know you Brits get screwed price-wise, but that price seems more appropriate for a 4GB than an 2. 12.49.50 # if I can't have dual thing work, I guess two slightly different versions of seeking will be made...nicer on single core 12.53.12 # Soap: Any easy factors to identify a 1st gen? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/iPOD-2GB-NANO-WHITE-RETAIL-BOXED-STOCK-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ230123246845QQihZ013QQcategoryZ73839QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem looks like 2nd gen to me. 12.53.25 # the first gen only came in black and white 12.53.42 # there is no white 2nd gen, and the black 2nd gen is 8GB 12.53.55 # Aha, that's the answer I was after 12.54.00 # The 2nd gen is all anodized aluminum like the Mini 12.54.13 # I assumed Black + White were freely available. 12.54.34 # the 1st gen looks like a scaled-down video. Plastic front and shiny (stainless steel?) back. 12.54.34 # So any non-8GB black or white Nano will do. 12.54.39 # aye 12.54.53 # try ebay.com as well 12.55.19 # I ship all electronics items to england and eurpoe trying to take advandage of price disparity. I can't believe I'm the only one. 12.55.49 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-085-189.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.56.05 # * Soap is off to work 12.57.30 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.00.31 # I'd also verify separateness of IRQ levels for the chip... 13.00.37 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.01.15 Quit Guile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.01.48 Join jba_ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.04.58 # oh, and make the main cop thread run really fast and call the scheduler alot and see if the player dies from that 13.05.00 Join jba___ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.13.18 # * amiconn wonders what's up with the build system :/ 13.13.36 # It got kicked 2 times now, but still hangs. Bagder? 13.14.53 # yeah, that's a messed up build table, :\ 13.18.31 Join jb [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.18.31 *** Alert Mode level 1 13.18.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK jba 13.18.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK jba_ 13.18.31 *** Alert Mode level 2 13.18.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK jba___ 13.18.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK jb 13.18.31 *** Alert Mode level 3 13.18.53 Nick jb is now known as jba_badnetwork (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.18.53 DBUG Enqueued KICK jba_badnetwork 13.18.53 *** Alert Mode level 4 13.19.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.20.17 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.24.22 Quit jba_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.24.34 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.24.35 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.24.51 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.28.23 Quit jba___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.28.54 *** Alert Mode OFF 13.39.45 Quit crashd (Remote closed the connection) 13.40.23 Join crashd [0] (i=foobar@lostnode.org) 13.42.37 Nick jba_badnetwork is now known as jba (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.42.37 DBUG Enqueued KICK jba 13.43.17 Join silensius [0] (n=silensiu@135.185-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 13.43.18 # hey guys, what folder do i need to be in to run the tools/rockboxdev.sh script? 13.43.36 # any you want 13.43.40 # ~ would be best 13.44.22 Part silensius ("Quitte") 13.44.53 Ctcp Ignored 6 channel CTCP requests in 24 minutes and 6 seconds at the last flood 13.44.53 # * JdGordon wishes he veriosn controlled his local mods :'( 13.45.05 # I had it working before but somehow broke it 13.45.38 # jba: I don't think it matters - the script has hard-coded (relative to $HOME) directories for working in. 13.46.05 # i get a patch prompt 13.46.14 # which normally means it can't find the file it's trying to patch 13.47.49 # ROCKBOXDEV: extracting binutils-2.16.1 in /root/build-rbdev 13.47.49 # tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory 13.48.05 # Do you have bzip2 installed? 13.48.16 # linuxstb, this is the vmware dev image 13.48.21 # i assumed it would have everything 13.48.39 # What happens if you just type "bzip2" at the prompt? 13.48.46 # * jba apt-get install bzip2 13.48.54 # linuxstb: a little break down of the evil Ainol V1000: http://www.pconline.com.cn/digital/audio/mp4/mp4/0612/924573_2.html 13.49.32 # seems to have fixed it 13.49.57 # jba: I thought the vmware image had the compilers already? 13.50.12 # old versoin of the image 13.50.28 # apparently the version of arm-elf is too old to build gigabeat current svn head 13.50.52 # OK. Then you should make sure the prefix specified at the top of rockboxdev.sh is the same one used by vmware - so you overwrite the old compilers. 13.51.53 # markun: Does it say what APE compression levels it supports? 13.54.28 # linuxstb, i checked /usr/local and it already had gcc stuff in there 13.54.38 # that was the prefix the .sh file was trying to write to 13.54.44 # linuxstb: no, I didn't see that anywhere 13.55.48 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 13.55.58 Join webguest96 [0] (i=3ce08031@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d3345a8c57f85e31) 13.56.14 # Magic error duplication in the build log... and storebror still has those broken binutils :( 13.56.22 # Hello? Can someone please help me install this on a gigabeat? 13.57.13 # A Toshiba gigabeat 13.57.27 # Anyone there? Or is it just me here? 13.57.41 # webguest96: Have you read the instructions here? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Installation_Instructions 13.57.49 # YES 13.57.58 # I have read that it does not help me 13.58.04 # webguest96: where did you get stuck? 13.58.26 # did you replace GBSYSTEM/FWIMG/FWIMG01.DAT with our own FWIMG01.DAT? 13.59.00 # The what now? 13.59.09 # so what did you do? 13.59.35 # webguest96: Which step of those instructions are you stuck on? 13.59.39 # Sorry I have looked at this http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf.pdf but not http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Installation_Instructions 13.59.49 # I will do what is says on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Installation_Instructions now 13.59.52 # Thank you 13.59.58 # good luck 14.00.31 # I will be back if I need any more help. Thank you and I think what you are doing is GREAT!!! :) 14.01.27 # thanks 14.01.55 # * jba considers downloading a new version of the vmware dev image 14.02.03 # :) 14.02.11 # jba: giving up so soon? ;) 14.02.31 # the rockboxdev.sh puts the files in /usr/local/arm-elf 14.02.38 # the old ones were in /usr/local/arm 14.02.49 # i've mad some folder renames and re - configured 14.02.52 # make is running now 14.03.12 # markun: what's the ATA interrupt on transfer complete used for? Where's the vector? 14.03.26 # jba: It shouldn't be a problem - you just need to make sure you adjust your PATH appropriately. 14.03.39 # jhMikeS: don't know 14.03.59 # seems to have worked 14.04.43 # jhMikeS: it looks like it does nothing 14.05.04 # well the make claims to have worked 14.05.06 # should i test it? 14.05.47 # I'm wondering what's handling it...perhaps I should just disable it. where does it say about aligning DMA transfers? 14.05.48 # jhMikeS: in system-meg-fx.c 14.06.26 # hey guys what you working on ? 14.06.29 # That's a waste, dma0 is just empty 14.06.45 # from irq() it calls dma0() I guess, but that's just an empty function 14.06.54 # damn, you were faster :) 14.06.55 # That's useless 14.07.07 # yes, indeed. I wonder what it was supposed to do 14.07.12 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AE877.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.07.38 # nothing, it's just vectors and returns it looks like...I'll just try to not have an interrupt 14.08.08 # has anyone tested my patch (FS#6893) for rbutil ? 14.08.24 # Domonoky: I have 14.08.26 # I mean what was the guy who wrote it planning to do with the dma0() function 14.08.38 # Nico_P: any comments ? 14.08.47 # Domonoky: actually my current rbutil bin has this patch 14.08.50 # works fine 14.08.53 # I like it 14.09.13 # Domonoky: I say "commit !" 14.09.23 # :-) 14.09.51 # i will comit it in a few days, so i can work on top of it ( when i find time) :-) 14.11.23 # G'Day. I am back. :) 14.11.34 # Domonoky: As rbutil is still in development, I don't think there's a problem if you just work with SVN instead of creating patches. i.e. it doesn't matter if you break things. 14.11.42 # (IMO) 14.12.27 # linuxstb: i will do this in the future :-) 14.12.31 # I have done what http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Installation_Instructions says... but I don't see directory named rockbox.gigabeat 14.12.51 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-8f172dea2985674f) 14.13.10 # Any ideas? 14.13.17 # webguest96: There should a directory called ".rockbox" (not the DOT at the start), and inside that directory, a file called "rockbox.gigabeat" 14.13.19 # so i saw a screenshot of the menu's with color icons in them that were visible, is that possible with the gigabeat? 14.13.47 # jba: Yes, custom icons work on all targets 14.14.01 # markun, jhMikeS: whoever fixed up bootloader usb mode, it works on my X30, first time. awsome 14.14.05 # linuxstb: really? ;) 14.14.12 # linuxstb, do I need to do anything to make it work on mine? 14.14.16 # or is it theme based? 14.14.17 # linuxstb: OK, I see it is there. Thanks! So with this installed I can watch videos? 14.14.36 # amiconn: They don't ? 14.14.40 # jba: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IconSets 14.14.50 # thanks mate 14.14.52 # linuxstb: Hint: all _bitmap_ targets... 14.15.18 # Did custom icons work on the Player before the change? 14.15.29 # i.e. the ones inside viewers.config 14.15.53 # jba: not I, but I'm pleased to have that mode now 14.15.54 # nope 14.16.06 # amiconn: Ah OK, I should stop assuming 14.16.30 # yeah it's impressive 14.16.38 # The fixed icons were, and are, built in. The dynamic icons where all represented with a mirrored question mark. Currently they have no icon at all 14.17.26 # s/where/were/ 14.17.37 # one thing's for sure, the interrupt can go 14.18.21 # Well? 14.18.27 # There is an ata interrupt on the gigabeat? 14.19.02 # the dma transfer was using an interrupt on transfer complete that did nothing, so I removed it 14.19.36 # aha 14.20.58 # woot! I'm finished comverting onplay.c and the diff is <100 bytes red :) 14.22.15 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.23.12 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 14.23.18 Join jba_ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-236.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 14.23.21 # anyone game enough to test it out? 14.23.24 Part ctaf 14.24.42 # scorche is usually happy to play guienea pig? 14.25.14 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@host-83-146-14-9.bulldogdsl.com) 14.26.09 # is the arm gcc really not optimzed? or is the menu code really bad on arm? 14.26.20 # the diff is huge on the sansa and tiny on the h300? 14.26.49 # arm code tends to be larger than coldfire and sh1 code 14.27.03 # ...especially because we have to use long calls 14.27.06 # the diff is 2kb compared to <100 14.27.50 # delta.. not diff 14.28.05 # How do I install a theme? 14.29.59 Part Domonoky 14.30.30 # webguest96: you unzip it on your device 14.30.51 # To the main area then restart the gigabeat? 14.32.05 # yep, you unzip it to your player's root and then Select the theme in the rockbox settings menu 14.32.31 # OK thanks 14.32.38 # (or maybe you unzip it in the .rockbox directory, depends if the zip already has a .rockbox dir or not) 14.33.29 # ... last call for anyone wanting to make sure i didnt stuff the onplay menu up.... 14.34.08 # Well which? 14.34.12 # JdGordon: hi, can you make an gigabeat build? 14.34.36 # coming right u[ 14.34.54 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf.pdf 14.35.22 # * aliask is going crazy 14.35.33 # hehe wassup aliask? 14.35.35 # I can't figure out the whole mono bitmap thing... are they transparent by default? 14.35.47 # http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-gigabeatf/rockbox.zip 14.36.06 # aliask: yes, monos are 14.36.30 # on 1bpp screens only (possibly.. i could be wrong) 14.36.39 # linuxstb: we gonna have it good for running dual core uber alles soon :) 14.36.40 # JdGordon: do I have to look at something particulary? 14.36.46 # aliask: Mono bitmaps aren't transparent by definition. They use the drawmode, foreground and background colour settings 14.37.00 # jhMikeS: nice :) 14.37.09 # moos: try out the context menus.. if anythng is out of place let me know 14.37.13 # I tihnk its al good... 14.37.24 # amiconn: Aha! Any way to get it to explicitly draw black/white as per the image? 14.37.28 # Jd: ok 14.38.38 # moos: that was a question to him actually...:P Don't know if he was gonna track down stuff on the Photo/Video 14.38.51 # It's all explained in GraphicsAPI 14.39.43 # I thought that was waaay out of date? 14.39.53 # ?? 14.39.56 # Well, anyway, thanks for the pointers 14.41.03 Join webguest67 [0] (i=d3b22c16@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-281290b1c5bd659f) 14.41.19 # Where is the menu option to chage the theme? 14.41.19 # JdGordon: all seems good... 14.41.58 # JdGordon: I noticed that items doesn't use the same icon than before right? 14.42.16 # for playlist stuff for exemple 14.42.42 # yeah, got suggestions for different icons? 14.42.51 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 14.42.55 # Hello all. I was wondering if someone could give me some quick help. I've just installed Rockbox on my 5G I-pod and for the life of me I can't figure out how to add music from my computer. I've looked through the manual and found nothing helpful. Will someone please explain this to me? 14.43.12 # JdGordon: do you have a patch? 14.43.17 # JdGordon: looks good unless you want creat new icon for it 14.43.43 # one thing messy 14.43.44 # I have now installed it how do I play music? 14.43.53 # the playlist catalogue stuff 14.43.59 # webguest67: You just copy the files to anywhere on your ipod's disk. 14.44.20 # moos: yeah, i dont want to add any icons for it.. which is why i used the playlist ones 14.44.24 # pixelma: 30sec.... 14.44.25 # no need to have the catalog for any files type 14.44.31 # How do I get playback? It will not work! 14.44.45 # linuxstb: I did that in three different places, updated the database and nothing doing. 14.44.58 # should say, tried that in three different places 14.45.07 # webguest67: Do the files work when you select them via the "Files" menu option? 14.45.12 # JdGordon: playlist menu doesn't have to be here for other files than music 14.45.25 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 14.45.35 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.45.36 Quit jba_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.46.11 # now you have playlists stuff in context menu or any file type 14.46.23 # linuxstb: the folder is there, but it's empty 14.46.51 # JdGordon: just this minor bug, all other things seems to working good 14.46.57 # k, ta 14.47.01 # np 14.47.24 # Please help 14.49.12 # linuxstb: I can drag and drop the music anywhere I want on the ipod? 14.49.24 # <_vertic23> yes! 14.49.36 # <_vertic23> but I prefer having a directory called MUSIC or something ^^ 14.49.46 # makes sense 14.49.47 # Anyone? 14.49.51 # <_vertic23> ...which I created by myself 14.49.55 # <_vertic23> anyone does it like that ^^ 14.50.01 # <_vertic23> ...EVERYone even 14.50.08 # webguest96 what's your question 14.50.09 # <_vertic23> where's your problem? 14.50.18 # <_vertic23> oh, you all look same -g- 14.50.59 # after i drop the music into the folder, i can update the database and voila, it's there, right? 14.51.23 # hmm... wtf? I just upgraded the bl on my sisters nano and now its just hung on the bootscreen showing the apple logo? 14.51.37 # nick/ Tim 14.51.42 # did not work 14.52.09 # nick/ Tim 14.52.17 # put the / in front of nick 14.52.18 # /nick time 14.52.25 # OK sorry 14.53.00 # still doesn't work? 14.53.08 # webguest67: I can not get any playback!!! HELP please 14.53.13 # JdGordon: other thing, when call context menu for one song and that there is no playing runing, that's supposed to have just the insert; and no insert and insert shuffle 14.53.30 # moos: no 14.53.35 # Hello? 14.53.42 # webguest96: what happens when you click on a file? 14.53.48 # mp3 for example 14.54.01 # pixelma: no what? 14.54.15 # that is a bug 14.54.39 # webguest67: What kind of music files are you copying? mp3? 14.54.47 # FLAC 14.55.20 # Well I go Files then it has a list of the artist name i click that then it shows the albums from that artist then when I click the album name it goes blank and plays nothing 14.55.31 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host228-203-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.56.07 # webguest67: Are you saying that when you browse your ipod's disk from within Rockbox, nothing is shown, but when you browse it from your computer, the files are there? 14.56.23 # webguest96: what kind of files are you using? 14.56.31 # mp3? 14.56.33 # wma? 14.57.04 # mp3, wma, licensed wma 14.57.23 # linuxstb: I've just found them. Under Files, there was an empty folder and nothing under artist, but when i searched album i found them. 14.57.27 # wma and licensed wma won't play on rockbox 14.57.31 # webguest96: well, with rockbox you cannot play any kind of wma unfortunately 14.57.39 # +yet :) 14.57.50 # after the summer hopefully unlincensed wma 14.57.51 # moos: ah.. I thought you were talking about doing that on a folder - there you should have both options. On a file you only have "insert" atm, I misread 14.58.18 # is wma playback a SoC project? 14.58.28 # yes 14.58.32 # pixelma: yeap that what I meant with my horrible english, sorry :) 14.58.42 # webguest96: try one of the folders with mp3 14.58.45 # nice (even though i don't have any wma music files) 14.59.02 # same here 14.59.09 # what other SoC projects is Google funding? 14.59.33 # MOB and AA 14.59.38 # dionoea: http://code.google.com/soc/rockbox/about.html 14.59.52 # good projects 15.00.04 # moos: ok, thats the only 2 bugs? 15.00.11 # thanks 15.00.27 # jdGordon: the only ones I noticed at least ;) 15.00.44 # and TTS! 15.00.45 # linuxstb: thanks for your time and help 15.00.52 # what linux are you running? 15.00.55 # Then why will it not play mp3s then? 15.01.42 # webguest96: I have no idea, do you get an error message or are the files invisible again? 15.02.24 # * JdGordon spotted another bug 15.03.35 # webguest96: if you hold the MENU buton you can set Show Files to "All", then at least you should see them 15.04.31 # but if you have a big wma collection rockbox might not be so interesting for you until we have a decoder for it 15.08.35 Quit austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 15.12.31 # markun: OK. done that. But the gigabeats file system names all the files as filename.mp3.SAT 15.12.32 # pixelma: moos: spotted anythng else wrong? 15.12.40 # So How do I get it to play? 15.12.46 # filename.mp3.SAT 15.13.12 # ah, you can't play .SAT files 15.13.14 # * jhMikeS checks ebay for iPod photo/video because every problem requires an expandable DAP collection 15.13.19 # webguest96: do you have a cradle? 15.13.38 # JdGordon: just started testing... had to figure out first where to patch from ;) 15.13.45 # sorry... -p1 15.14.13 # webguest96: if you have the original files on your computer you can copy them directly to the Gigabeat to play 15.14.33 # if you don't you can transfer them back through the cradle and WMP mode 15.14.38 Join datachild [0] (i=krebb@linux.aeger.wind0ws.info) 15.15.12 # JdGordon: entering the main menu via the wps context menu (Ondio-specific) doesn't work. I just get back to the wps... 15.15.21 # markun: no I do not have a cradle 15.15.37 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6F365.versanet.de) 15.15.57 # Sorry I do have one but I did not use it to transfer the songs orgionally 15.16.15 # pixelma: ah sorry.. sent the diff before i fixed that... ill send another 15.16.26 # webguest96: let's chat in private, ok? 15.16.28 # patch -p1 should do it 15.16.28 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 15.16.41 # JdGordon: seems working fine if you ixed the 2 issues 15.16.51 # OK 15.16.53 # webguest96: check the PM's I sent you 15.18.19 # There now 15.19.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.23.13 Quit devDelay (Connection reset by peer) 15.23.28 # pixelma: ? 15.24.14 # JdGordon: thanks for your help last night, I got it working in the end. 15.24.27 # I just commented on the patch 15.24.58 # ok, l'll fix that 15.25.43 # and the logf in powermgmt.c 15.26.01 # yes, that can be taken out again 15.26.51 # hmm... actually... set_runtime_scale() is in settings_apply() right? 15.27.13 # yes 15.27.23 # so the menu item callback isnt needed.. 15.27.26 # the INT_SETTING(..) is already at the end of the struct 15.27.46 # settings.h... 15.28.00 # settings_apply() is called everytime a setting is changed? 15.28.01 # settings_list.c can be anywhere, but settings.h has to be at the end 15.28.07 # yes 15.28.33 # jhMikeS: If you're looking for an ipod, the mini (1st gen), 4th Gen Greyscale and Photo/Color are the ones that prove the most troublesome (the PP5020 ones)... 15.28.38 # actually... you can just use set_runtime_scale for the callback in settins_list.c 15.28.41 # JdGordon: I still can't reach the main menu via the context menu 15.28.50 # bugger 15.29.13 # * JdGordon gets the ondio sim built 15.29.38 # JdGordon: I tried that first, but then the setting wasn't loaded at startup (or something else messed up) 15.30.06 # keep the call in settings_apply(), and use it for the settings_list.c callback and it should work 15.30.06 Quit webguest67 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.30.25 # ok 15.30.42 # pixelma: from the tree or wps? 15.30.46 # tree seems to work here 15.30.48 # from the wps 15.31.22 # linuxstb: well, don't know...are you going to try and see if you can track anything down? It's gotta just be some little something...it feels like that. 15.31.37 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AF7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.32.27 # first "long mode" -> wps context menu, from there another long press of "mode" should bring up the main menu (and it works in svn) 15.33.20 # linuxstb: also, if someone has a supposedly non-troublesome iPod, I'd be curious to have it checked 15.34.05 # pixelma: does the ondio not have a context menu in the tree? 15.34.22 # ah, hold right 15.35.14 # all fixed 15.35.45 Join phooze [0] (n=default@softbank221021179075.bbtec.net) 15.38.10 # JdGordon: then go ahead and commit ! 15.38.29 # ... pixelma, anything else odd? 15.38.40 # * JdGordon doesnt pay enough attention to svn to do this properly :p 15.39.15 # hehe : ) 15.40.26 # 3 .... 15.40.27 # 2.... 15.40.30 # 1.... 15.40.39 # * aliask holds his breath 15.41.21 # JdGordon: haven't noticed another problem... 15.41.45 # and away it goes :) 15.48.08 # * JdGordon 's next commit will be a nice green one :) 15.48.46 # JdGordon: I uploaded a new version 15.50.25 # 2.5 months to completly get rid of the old api... is that good or bad? 15.50.30 # Rincewind: ok, ill have a look 15.51.20 # looks much better :) 15.51.34 # I dont know what the others think of the idea though... 15.51.59 # Newbie question: Is it possible to load a different FNT file (say, a larger font) for a plugin than is used as the system's default setting? Is this in the plugin API somewhere? 15.52.26 # I only tested it on my h120, and I think it needs a few #defines for the sims, but I don't know where, because the whole powermgmt.c for the sims is a fake... 15.52.28 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 15.54.33 # ehum.. 15.54.50 # JdGordon: Didn't you say +2KB for pp? Look at the delta line... 15.55.02 Quit Entasis ("Leaving") 15.55.51 # ok.. apparently my maths sux :p 15.56.37 # green on arm and red everywhere else? wierd 15.57.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.37 # yes, what a big difference.. 15.57.45 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54bf4a96.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.59.25 Quit crop ("CGI:IRC") 15.59.37 # well, that delta is alot smaller than I was scared it would be yesterday, and the next commit should bring that all back to 0 16.00.31 Join hob [0] (n=ibrauchk@217.19.32.10) 16.00.55 Part webguest96 16.08.07 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 16.11.26 # JdGordon: still playlist items in the context menu when you call it for files that are'nt music 16.12.14 # playlist cataloge only.. which is in svn also 16.12.39 # and playlist too 16.13.18 # playlist option for any file 16.13.22 # or dir 16.13.48 # no just cataloge sorry :) 16.14.27 # i just had a look at old svn and all the playlist options are there on non music files... so no big deal... better things to fix atm 16.14.48 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-075-177-158-190.nc.res.rr.com) 16.15.12 # that could be better if playlist options (both) isn't here for a non music file 16.18.46 # jhMikeS: I've just tried your core locking patch on an ipod video, and mpegplayer is working fine. 16.24.20 # linuxstb: 5Gs play videos fine? :o 16.24.24 # linuxstb: I thought that's what you tried it on 16.25.46 # jhMikeS: No, a Color/Photo is the problem one. 16.26.01 # lex: Yes, my 176x128 video played perfectly. 16.26.12 # right, heh 16.26.18 # :o 16.26.24 # but what about a video like 320x240? :) 16.27.41 Join Tim1 [0] (i=3ce08031@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-26c67b7099948f99) 16.27.50 # * jhMikeS was messing around with his Gigabeat having no clue and is getting "System Error" (he went beyond the "No System Found" which will hit USB mode). crud. 16.28.12 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 16.28.46 # jhMikeS: your first hot-swap? 16.28.50 # :) 16.29.16 # Can someone please help with video playback on a gigabeat? 16.29.31 # ummm...stupdly messing around renaming FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG back to FWIMG01.DAT 16.29.45 # Can someone please help with video playback on a gigabeat? 16.29.46 # jhMikeS: I hope you have a tiny screwdriver 16.29.57 # Tim1: What's your problem? 16.30.01 # I have some very tiny screwdrivers 16.30.31 # setmargins() doesnt seem to be working :'( 16.30.41 # jhMikeS: The recovery process is on the GigabeatFXPort wiki page... 16.30.48 # Some .mpg files it does not like and just displays a black screen and freezs. What 2 do? 16.31.07 # Do those files play fine on a PC video player/ 16.31.08 # ? 16.31.20 # The files do play on a PC 16.31.49 # welcome back Tim1 :) 16.31.54 # How did you encode them? 16.32.13 # I did not they were just there on my computer 16.32.34 # On some videos it also says something about "stuffing" 16.32.35 # yeah, I had a feeling I'd have to fake it out 16.33.00 # Tim1: Do they meet mpegplayer's requirements? They're on the PluginMpegplayer wiki page. The most likely reason is the resolution is too large. 16.33.38 # Oh OK 16.34.04 # But is there any way of geting out of it when it crashes? 16.34.06 Quit petur ("worrrk") 16.34.15 # hehe...I think I just needed an excuse to open it up 16.35.00 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.35.04 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp250-215.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.35.16 # Tim1: If it crashes then you'll need to toggle the battery switch 16.35.41 # Does that hurt the hard drive? 16.36.50 # (toggling the battery switch) 16.37.11 # No idea, but I've done it often enough. 16.38.19 # Hmmm 16.39.06 # So thats a yes or no? 16.39.26 # That's a "no idea" 16.40.05 # OK Kool no worries 16.40.44 # So you can use VLC to get them to the right size? 16.43.56 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.44.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp140-121.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.44.06 # * jhMikeS 's batt switch is showing wear no thanks to mpegplayer 16.44.50 Join San [0] (n=undergro@A-96-221.cust.iol.ie) 16.46.53 # So you can use VLC to get them to the right size? 16.48.41 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.49.09 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.50.04 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 16.50.13 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6FF7D.versanet.de) 16.50.44 # Anyone answering? 16.50.49 # = NO! 16.51.55 # Tim1: You can use any mpeg encoder - vlc is one option. 16.52.16 # Nico_P: Umm, do we need to care about duplicate strings? The wps buffer is static... 16.53.20 # amiconn: it artificially allows more strings 16.53.32 # without changing the buffer size 16.54.06 # * amiconn can't imagine there are many duplicates in a wps 16.54.12 # ..if any at all.. 16.54.32 Part hob 16.55.13 # amiconn: there are duplicates in most WPSs that use a few strings (the best example being the space) 16.55.30 Join bluebrother [0] (i=itMArHxN@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 16.55.36 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 16.56.09 # and there was a forum topic with someone wanting to write a WPS with a hell of a lot of strings, duplicated in two sublines 16.56.35 # so that's waht reminded me of this idea I had about taking care of duplicates 16.56.47 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-93c24294f75b9f2b) 16.58.02 # where do you install VLC-transcode.bat 16.58.13 # amiconn: you think it's overkill ? 16.58.51 # Referencing a space takes more memory than the space itself... 16.59.47 # linuxstb: what can you answer to this: "So how long before they finally decide the H3xx release is stable?" 17.00.08 # Tim1: I think you can put it anywhere you want 17.01.33 Quit Sanit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.01.36 # amiconn: still, it's better to have one copy of the space in memory and 10 refs to that copy than 10 copies and 10 different refs 17.02.28 # and in many WPSs, it's more than just the space, when there are a few conditionals and sublines involved 17.03.26 Quit Tim1 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.03.27 # Nico_P: 1x space + 10x reference: 41 bytes. 10x space: 10 bytes. So what? 17.04.08 # amiconn: even with the 10 spaces, we still have 10 references... and also we have 10 times '\0' 17.04.52 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 17.05.09 # hmm... ??? 17.05.25 # amiconn: each string token has as its value the index of the string in an array of pointers 17.06.01 # the pointers point to various strings in the string buffer 17.06.07 # Ah, that token stuff....... 17.08.00 # basically my change is that if I already have a space as string n°1, if there is another space, I'll make the token point to string n°1 instead of making another copy of the space in the string buffer and making the token point to it 17.10.15 # she's alive! 17.19.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.21.44 # jhMikeS: easy, wasn't it? :) 17.22.06 # well, with our own bootloader in flash we shouldn't have problems 17.22.21 # markun: quite. what a ridiculous thing not to have it do usb upon any error 17.23.48 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 17.25.57 # jhMikeS: we looked for a long time but didn't find any key-combo to enter USB mode 17.26.34 # markun: neither did I :) 17.27.31 Join bbatbbpc [0] (n=Miranda@195.16.244.188) 17.30.28 # I'm sure there will be problems on the initial flashings...not something I have the gaul to try without being able to reflash somehow 17.31.14 # * moos is waiting for bootbox, gigabeat will be one of the better box the day that will happen 17.31.57 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.32.52 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i59F446ED.versanet.de) 17.34.09 # btw, I had to steal the connection from windows using the vmware menu and then release it back to get it to work. I didn't have a drive right away. 17.34.54 # well, I had a drive letter but no volume I mean 17.41.00 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 17.41.46 Join ptw [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 17.46.01 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 17.53.59 Quit ptw419 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.55.41 # does exist a command to know all patch actually applied in a rockbox dir ? 17.56.05 # My_Sic: that is not possible 17.56.09 # ok 17.56.10 # thanks 17.56.20 # but you can do "svn diff -> all.patch" 17.56.38 # with this you get a patch with all the changes that you made to the source 18.02.02 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 18.02.50 Quit ptw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.02.51 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 18.04.44 # linuxstb: so the color and video have PP5020 but the video ran ok...odder still...or did you say one was a PP5021 actually? 18.07.11 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.08.53 # jhMikeS: The color has PP5020, the video has PP5021 18.09.14 # ok 18.10.02 # btw, what would ever cause the ATA driver to have to read unaligned data if it only gets sent sectors via the cache? 18.11.38 # ? 18.12.26 # It has code to look for odd alignment in the ATA driver...I thought only complete sectors were transferred 18.12.37 # Why would that be unaligned ever? 18.13.12 # The complete sectors can very well be unaligned in memory 18.13.53 # If the file in question is loaded to an odd start addrress, all whole-sector transfers for that file will be unaligned 18.15.12 # that just sounds weird 18.15.46 # Why? 18.15.58 # It's very obvious and straightforward... 18.17.12 # what's the cache in memory have to do with "start address"? 18.17.27 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@88-137-121-91.adslgp.cegetel.net) 18.17.32 # * amiconn wonders what cache jhMikeS is talking about ??? 18.17.52 # * jhMikeS will read the code and comment more later :) 18.18.31 # If you read large portions of a file, all possible whole-sector transfers go straight from disk to final memory location (or vice versa) 18.18.58 # Only transfers which do *dot* cover a whole sector are transferred to/from the sector cache in the fat driver 18.20.11 # s/dot/not/ 18.20.13 # ah yes, makes good sense to do that 18.20.13 Join ptw419 [0] (n=j@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 18.20.14 # exactly 18.20.28 # The rockbox ata driver works like this for ages... 18.20.34 Quit bbatbbpc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.20.36 # and hence good sense to optimize that code 18.21.04 # The odd alignment transfers are optimized in svn... for all 3 cpu architectures 18.21.40 # it's just the C code in the megfx driver right now 18.21.42 # merbanan: any success in pinging the wma guy? 18.21.49 # It might be that some of these optimisations aren't used on the gigabeat though, iirc there where some problems 18.21.56 # Best to ask markun about that 18.22.11 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 18.22.52 # Take a look at firmware/target/arm/ata-as-arm.S 18.22.53 # I asked about the odd alignment stuff and he didn't comment 18.23.08 # This has asm loops for even and odd alignment 18.23.17 # They work like a charm on pp 18.23.34 # I know nothing about that code 18.23.54 # (not sure about the 5002 - there's a comment saying there are problems) 18.24.21 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 18.24.28 Join GodEater__ [0] (n=bryan@host-83-146-14-9.bulldogdsl.com) 18.24.44 # The even alignment is a DMA transfer 18.24.44 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.24.51 # yes 18.24.56 # That's gigabeat specific 18.25.05 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.25.52 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.25.53 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 18.25.55 # The CPU datasheet says nothing about an alignment issue with DMA but it can do bytes too 18.26.27 # It's very likely that you can't use odd alignment with ata dma 18.27.04 # The dma engine will very probably switch to bytes with odd alignment, and the ata port must be fed with halfwords at a time 18.29.02 # Hmm... iirc markun said that the optimized transfer didn't speed up anything on gigabeat 18.29.04 # yeah, hmmm...the asm has code for both though, right/ 18.29.31 # Probably the cpu is so much faster than the ata interface that it simply doesn't matter 18.29.52 # it takes about 6secs for a 27MB buffer fill 18.31.17 # and I'm really not sure how that compares to others since I never even casually timed them 18.32.29 # amiconn: at least it doesn't speed up ATA transfers 18.32.44 # If those 6 seconds are excluding the spinup, it's indeed a bit slow 18.32.49 # yes 18.32.50 # but maybe there is more time left for other things during a DMA tranfer 18.33.07 # But you won't be able to speed things up without figuring out how to change the timings in the controller 18.33.29 # You can't do dma for odd alignment, I'm 99% sure 18.34.21 # Most ipods are faster than those ~4.5MB/s, coldfire targets aren't much faster iirc 18.36.08 # what I changed got a few less frames dropped on a heavy video but nothing spectacular 18.36.49 # Gigabeat drops frames?? 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While this is probably the wrong place to ask someone in here might know. I want to use vorbis, ogg, not mp3 but it only supports mp3, is there a way to try and install codecs/firmware to meet my needs. It has a FAT16 partition and free space. Thanks any pointers would be great - even a pointer such as "it is much too difficult sell your generic and buy a Rockbox supported model 20.08.41 # It is by Creative and is called MuVo v100 20.10.16 Part peppo ("part") 20.11.15 Quit Guile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.13.37 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.13.47 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AF7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.13.51 # please, anything would be fine 20.15.11 # so I am asking in the wrong language perhaps? 20.15.49 # no, this channel is english spoken 20.16.15 # point is, most likely nobody can help you with that. You can't just install a codec into a firmware like you do in windows 20.16.35 # you might want to have a look in the "New Ports" forums. There might be discussion about it. 20.17.27 # (another point: people who might know an answer might be just inactive in this channel atm ;-) 20.19.26 # bluebrother: thanks bb I have been hacking Linux for the last 2.6 years and I know the pain it sometimes can be to try and get hardware to do what one wants. My collection is in ogg I have used a small script ogg2mp3 to change over my best beats for my mp3 player but it would be nice to use vorbis, as it is open source. ty I will try the "New Ports" section. 20.19.37 Quit rift (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.20.14 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.21.07 # if you are interested in porting Rockbox the NewPorts wiki page might be interesting to you. But I can't help you on that further -- good luck :) 20.21.12 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 20.22.46 # np, I will get it to work, but it might be 6 months from now :) 20.24.56 Quit Arathis (Remote closed the connection) 20.25.55 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AF7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.28.47 # I found this http://opensource.creative.com/ there are resources 20.31.09 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@88-137-121-91.adslgp.cegetel.net) 20.38.03 # markun/jhMikeS, I have a fixed up version of the sc606 driver for the gigabeat that includes the asm loop, as well as a bunch of other fixes to some details that needed attention in the driver. 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I also thought about that optimisation but abandoned it since I thought that there are not many identical strings in WPS's. And string limit is rarely hit. 22.12.52 # Nico_P: so this doesn't effectively buy (almost) nothing since the string buffer is reserved anyway. 22.13.11 # Bagder: around? 22.13.38 # He-he, very quiet here. 'll try other time. 22.14.08 Part fm2 ("Hopefully the logs are read. Bye amiconn ;-)") 22.17.59 # yeps 22.22.19 # * ender` yawns 22.24.47 Quit himitsu (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 22.25.13 Join Hilikus [0] (n=aaa@penhune-lab-172-107.Concordia.CA) 22.25.38 # hey guys 22.26.05 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 22.26.24 # i cant find any info on the auto-change directory "Random" setting, what does it do??? from testing it, it does the same thing as "yes" 22.26.43 Join chris_ [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) 22.28.09 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 22.28.13 # it just jumps to the next directory after the current directory has been played complitely 22.28.57 # Hilikus: I'm not sure, but you may need to run the random_folder_advance_config plugin to set it up 22.29.44 # cause im trying to either find a setting or a patch to change directories randomly like to listen to an album in order but changing to a random album after the first one is done, and thats what that option sounded like 22.29.48 # oh ok 22.30.10 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.30.25 # is that plugin in the main build? ive never seen it 22.31.00 # Yes, it should be 22.31.36 # it is! cool 22.32.24 # thanks, i didnt know parts of the main firmware could be dependent on plugins 22.35.05 # ohhh great! it works, i love rockbox 22.35.08 # thanks guys 22.35.12 Quit Hilikus () 22.38.04 # obo apparently runs debian unstable or similar as well ;-/ 22.38.26 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 22.38.27 # the link failure in the sim builds 22.38.59 # storebror does run the same for sure 22.39.17 # Bagder: yup, debian unstable - is this (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=421328) related? 22.39.17 # yes, but I disabled sdl builds from it previously as a quick work-around 22.39.29 # does the new wps_parser code create copies of the literal text in the wps? I didn't see anything in the diff that would free those copies 22.39.29 # (as does mine - annoying package, that) 22.39.58 # ^ question to Nico_P I guess 22.40.06 # Bagder: You could downgrade to binutils 2.17.3 - it's still in testing 22.40.06 Part rift_ 22.40.07 # obo: it certainly sounds like that can be the one that hits us, yes 22.40.09 # This is what I did 22.40.27 # (and then locked it for the time being) 22.41.06 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.206.118) 22.43.07 Quit billytwowilly (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.44.35 Join dankole [0] (n=efdsf@207-47-218-51.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 22.45.31 # Nemmind. strings isn't dynamically sized. ignore me. 22.45.45 # why are there no rockbox iriver downloads on the site? 22.47.22 # Nico_P - so is the advantage of this change that we can now use 128 *distinct* text strings in WPS as opposed to 128 strings total incl duplicates? 22.47.52 # dankole: on the rockbox site? I can see several 22.48.03 # dankole - http://build.rockbox.org/ ? 22.48.15 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 22.48.27 Part ctaf 22.50.37 # ahh ok i see 22.51.08 # does anyone know what i do with all these i jsut downloaded? 22.51.20 # do i jsut move em to my root dir? 22.51.24 # dankole: There's a fine manual with an install section 22.56.57 # ive tried it 22.57.02 # i just get a -1 error 22.57.35 # Nico_P - actually I'm still not sure I get it. It seems you do len++ while you're pulling in the literal text but never increment stringbuf_used in that loop (so the conditional in your loop is always false). Then you strncpy the string into the stringbuffer using 'len' which might be > the remaining stringbuffer available. Isn't that dangerous? Shouldn't you use min( len, STRING_BUFFER_SIZE-1 ) instead? 22.57.39 # dankole: Did you first install Rockbox a long time ago? 22.58.16 # i had it on here along itme a go but i formatted and forgot how to install it. i mean i use the maual, but it never worked. then someone off here helped me and it worked 22.58.58 # It sounds like you need to install the latest bootloader. 22.59.20 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.59.37 # i do have the latest one. at leats i think i do 22.59.49 # i patched it with that thing then moved it to the dir 23.00.07 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.01.13 # dankole: Did you select the "firmware upgrade" option in the iriver firmware? 23.01.21 # ya 23.01.48 # OK, so do you have a ".rockbox" folder on your iriver, with a "rockbox.iriver" file inside there? 23.02.00 # no 23.02.14 Join Sanit [0] (n=undergro@213-202-141-232.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 23.02.35 # Then that's the problem - you've installed the bootloader, but not Rockbox itself. 23.03.20 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.03.39 # rockbox.zip? 23.03.58 # Yes, and rockbox-fonts.zip 23.04.14 # do i just drag all the files into the root? 23.04.32 # i dont know where to get rockboxfonts 23.04.39 # The suggested way is to extract the zip file directly to your iriver. 23.05.08 # Follow the "extras" link in the menu on www.rockbox.org 23.05.11 # also the code that ensure strings in stringbuf are \0-terminated seems to have gone away with this change. I think the last string that fills the buffer could be unterminated 23.05.28 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 23.05.48 Quit Febs ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 23.07.11 # do i put the font hting into the root as well? 23.07.43 # yes 23.08.31 # nice. thanks, your a charm buddy 23.10.21 # so rockbox drains the battery a bit more right? 23.10.54 # dankole - what model iriver do you have? 23.11.01 Quit ompaul (Remote closed the connection) 23.11.01 # h120 23.11.20 # dankole - I think rockbox has better battery performance than iriver original fw 23.11.52 # Rockbox meets or exceeds original firmware on all but the iPods. 23.12.11 # * stripwax wishes he'd got a gigabeat instead of an ipod 23.12.16 # (Sansa too.) (iRiver H10 is an iPod when it comes down to it) 23.12.23 # get both! 23.12.34 # Soap - what, and my h120? :-) 23.12.55 # Sure! 23.13.00 # Heh! 23.13.17 # Any dev able to comment on my posts above about the recent wps_parser change? 23.13.31 # * amiconn doesn't know of an imposed maximum of rockbox targets one could have 23.13.36 # ;) 23.13.48 # ;) 23.14.03 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 23.14.06 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp48-199.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.16.18 # Yeah. Just tried it. trying to fill the stringbuf with large strings in wps crashes the latest rockbox. 23.17.05 # 1. Final string isn't truncated to buffer stringbuffer size. 2. Last byte of string buffer is not guaranteed to be \0 23.17.08 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 23.18.44 # This wps nukes rockbox. http://pastebin.ca/466198 23.19.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.26.31 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 23.36.50 # stripwax: strcpy takes care of the \0 23.37.21 # strNcpy does not though? Can you reproduce the rockbox crash using my example? 23.37.29 # stripwax: about the check against STRING_BUFFER_SIZE, that slipped my mind... I'll have to take a look 23.37.40 # strncpy() does not if the string is n long 23.37.48 # oops 23.38.01 # Nico_P - my patch is in the tracker 23.38.11 # and strncpy() _pads_ the string with zeroes if less than n long 23.38.13 # stripwax: cool, thanks :) 23.38.28 # strncpy is a funny beast 23.38.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7093 23.38.39 # Bagder: in this case the string will always be n long 23.38.46 # aha 23.38.49 # but the buffer is initially filled with 0s 23.39.10 # Nico_P - right, which is why it works so long as you have < 1023 bytes of total text :-) 23.39.14 # but I did screw up the limits check 23.39.21 # stripwax: yes 23.39.37 # I'll take a look at the patch as soon as I come back, but right now I have to go 23.40.27 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 23.40.31 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp141-167.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.44.30 Join etAl [0] (n=d8d24179@212-139-110-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 23.47.13 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.48.24 # Nico_P - you can use this wps to verify the fix works. http://pastebin.ca/466240 . 23.49.26 # The first 16 lines represent 1022 bytes (including terminating \0) and so the final line gets truncated + \0-terminated after the first character (the 'a') 23.49.56 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 23.50.15 Quit etAl () 23.55.27 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 23.55.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp195-109.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.56.13 Join charkins [0] (n=casey@pdpc/supporter/active/charkins)