--- Log for 03.05.107 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 9 hours ago 00.00.06 # its only the .rockbox directory thats fucked 00.00.16 # I can even play media in other folers 00.01.01 # weird 00.01.04 # Can you delete or rename the .rockbox folder? 00.01.08 # nope 00.01.10 # tried 00.01.24 # check the permissions 00.01.27 # my question is, besides a format, any suggestions? 00.01.31 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-0df6167b39138cd6) 00.01.45 # try and delete it and unzip a fresh one! :p 00.02.00 # asked earlier, but does anyone just use flacs on a gigabeat... what kind of battery life are you seeing? 00.02.17 # soccerbap: It sounds more like a windows issue than Rockbox though... 00.02.59 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.03.01 # linux - how is that possible, it plays in windows, doesn't work when dc'd 00.03.16 # and every folder but rockbox itself is accessable 00.03.23 # I can't check the .rockbox permissions btw 00.03.31 # it just locks up when I click on it 00.03.33 # so weird 00.03.41 # but everything else works great 00.03.47 # (in windows) 00.04.44 Join Soap2 [0] (n=Soap@host-69-95-63-45.spr.choiceone.net) 00.04.59 Nick Soap2 is now known as Soap3 (n=Soap@host-69-95-63-45.spr.choiceone.net) 00.05.09 # ok, wait finally got to permissions 00.05.12 # it was read only for some reason 00.05.17 # but its showing up as 0 bytes 00.05.20 # 0 folders 00.05.28 # so I'm gonna delete if possible 00.05.52 # run chkdsk /f 00.06.11 # blue - already did, i'll give it one more shot though 00.06.48 # make sure you added the /f flag. I also found chkdsk running better than scandisk 00.06.54 # hth 00.07.13 # jimbobuk: This page may help - battery runtimes on various iriver players, including MP3 and FLAC - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRuntime 00.08.13 # allright 00.08.16 # running it with the /f flag 00.08.18 # thanks 00.09.21 # oho! 00.09.34 # it got rid of the entry 00.09.37 # sweet 00.09.48 # I'll re-unzip and hopefully that'll fix it 00.09.55 # thanks a ton 00.10.06 # jimbobuk: A rough estimate is that you might get around 12-13 hours of FLAC playback. But a test is needed... 00.11.19 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 00.11.30 Quit FOAD_ ("I'll be back") 00.12.09 # convert lost chains to files? (never seen this before) 00.12.16 # gonna try "y" 00.12.17 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.12.23 # you most likely want to do this 00.12.44 # nm 00.12.47 # gonna replace em anyways 00.12.54 # ah, have the space 00.13.05 # cool 00.13.09 # fixed a bunch of garbage 00.13.13 # now lets see if its workable 00.13.24 # linuxstb: thanks, i may try and use that test program, it logs it doesn't it so when it dies the disk knows how long it managed to play 00.13.31 # Yes. 00.13.48 # unless you need to recover data from it, converting lost chains is useless 00.14.22 # hmm. But if the lost chains aren't marked as empty? 00.14.34 # i.e. the clusters in the found chains? 00.15.48 # the fat is always repaired, it's just a matter of throwing the leftovers away or creating files for them 00.16.07 # yeah 00.16.10 # how is it always repaired? 00.16.12 # looked up the question on microsoft 00.16.15 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.16.19 # its just junk you can put in a file or trash 00.16.28 # oh - rebuilding database 00.16.30 # lost clusters are clusters not assigned to a file 00.16.31 # is that done by windows on startup? 00.16.34 # things seem to be running smoothly 00.16.57 # sure, but if you e.g. loose the dir entry the clusters will still form a file and get marked as used 00.17.10 # unless you detect that issue and free them 00.17.33 # afaik, if you don't tell it to convert to files, it just frees them 00.17.55 # ah -- just had that idea. 00.18.04 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.18.09 # haven't thought of that before ;-) 00.19.50 Quit blithe ("Moving.") 00.20.19 # * petur installs ubuntu on his new laptop 00.24.18 # does anyone know the current status of the 80GB ipod? 00.24.31 # the forums know. 00.24.42 # the wiki knows too 00.25.28 # All I can find out there is that is been put on hiatus, due to demands on developers time I mean what has been done so far? 00.26.36 # check todays irc log, it knows abit about it too 00.26.52 # well, yesterdays log 00.27.00 # 2 april 00.27.07 # may ? 00.27.09 # er may 00.27.36 # time flies like an arrow 00.27.50 # fruit flies like a banana 00.27.53 # haha thanks 00.28.18 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.30.08 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@dsl-244-219-02.telkomadsl.co.za) 00.30.09 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 00.32.36 # * petur is happy Nico_P read the contributing doc 00.33.37 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.35.09 Quit Siltaar (Remote closed the connection) 00.35.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6549/edit so its just ne FAT drive needed to be written then now I take it. 00.35.47 # (What am I saying "just") haha 00.36.12 # the wiki has the IpodEightyGB page with some information 00.36.52 Quit jhulst_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.38.32 Join webguest34 [0] (i=80d25a15@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4e16bfcd4c6014ae) 00.38.47 Part webguest34 00.38.54 Part pixelma 00.39.35 # thanks 00.39.38 Part a1titude 00.39.49 Quit obo ("bye") 00.44.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.44.58 Join Rincewind [0] (i=nNO7FPjo@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 00.47.50 # ok the updated version of rockbox seems to have fixed my playlist problem 00.47.52 # brilliant 00.48.23 # however i added a pile of flac albums on there, and am just updating the database, it seems to have got stuck.. been at 1594 found for a long time now 00.48.52 Quit roolku () 00.48.58 # can't feel the hdd doing anything, any thoughts? any way of tracking down if it got stuck on a particular files tags 00.49.54 Quit Soap3 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.50.10 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.52.59 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 00.55.53 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.56.33 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.00.24 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.01.53 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-9b871f3183b4e8c8) 01.04.55 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 01.04.56 Join Soap3 [0] (n=Soap@host-69-95-63-45.spr.choiceone.net) 01.16.56 Join aliask|uni [0] (i=82c20d67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-20af91dccf70220c) 01.17.46 Quit Rincewind ("Cya") 01.22.17 Quit x-spec-ting (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.15 Quit Galois (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 01.24.20 Quit soccerbap ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 01.27.00 Part Domonoky 01.27.08 Quit ender` (" Shortly after Dr. Samuel Johnson had published his Dictonary of the English Language (in 1755), a splendid British lady appr) 01.30.22 Part toffe82 01.30.38 # hmmm... rockboxdev.sh ran exactly 20 minutes for 'all' :) 01.30.55 # ok i think the database is not updating a file its previously scanned that i've since changed the tags of.. 01.31.08 # they're still coming up as untagged yet as they're playing u can see they are tagged 01.31.16 # can i just delete the database files in .rockbox 01.31.24 # and let it create them fresh next boot? 01.31.51 # or is there an option to force a full rebuild, or delete the db inside rockbox 01.33.20 Part sysdef 01.37.28 # ahh initialise now seemed to do the trick :) 01.37.37 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 01.40.48 Quit aliask|uni ("CGI:IRC") 01.41.40 Quit gursikh ("Leaving") 01.44.47 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.44.57 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.52.01 Nick basscade1 is now known as sneakums (n=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 02.02.58 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 02.04.30 Quit sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.04.41 Join sando [0] (i=lolsteam@124-254-76-41-static-dsl.ispone.net.au) 02.11.28 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-135-34-73.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 02.11.30 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 02.18.50 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.32.16 Quit heanol (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.40.23 Join hardeep [0] (i=c044e404@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-49085f45f331a81c) 02.44.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.47.15 Quit hardeep ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.50.37 Join hardeep [0] (i=c044e404@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c89592edd8d354ad) 02.51.04 Join rogelio_ [0] (n=rogelio@189.142.97.239) 02.51.21 # JdGordon: around? 02.52.07 Join knapp [0] (n=knapp@67.132.247.218) 02.57.28 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.58.30 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) 03.03.29 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.01 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host174-157-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 03.04.57 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 03.06.12 Quit knapp (Remote closed the connection) 03.14.42 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039ac0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-06e87346a4483a0f) 03.15.09 # could someone clarify if the MacOS HFS+ -> FAT32 ipod conversion guide wipes out the retail OS? 03.17.05 Join Yannni [0] (i=Yannnni@c-75-65-78-88.hsd1.la.comcast.net) 03.19.43 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 03.25.19 Join GKC [0] (n=poenisdi@206.132.62.77) 03.26.16 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.26.48 # Hey, does anyone know if I can use an iPod with rockbox installed with an apple A/V kit thing that plugs in to the bottom slot? 03.26.59 # Universal dock, I mean 03.27.24 # it depends on the device, I don't know about the specific one you mention 03.28.28 # Do you know about any others that might be similar? This one is made by apple. The ipod plugs into the dock through the bottom slot, and from that dock you can have an A/V cord that plugs into output devices and stuff, and you can charge it. 03.28.57 # here is the relevant wiki page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories 03.29.27 # alright, thanks 03.29.51 # the video I'm pretty sure doesn't work 03.30.05 # but the audio out and power supply probably will 03.31.23 Quit hardeep ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 03.31.50 # Yeah, that'll be just fine, I don't usually have enough space for videos anyway 03.34.13 # thanks for the help i'm out 03.34.16 Quit GKC () 03.36.12 # so i just updated for the first time and like a year and now my wps i made no longer works... so what has changed? 03.36.24 # saratoga: (If you read the logs) - No, the conversion from HFS to FAT32 leaves the Apple firmware intact - a working AppleOS is a prerequisite for ipodpatcher to be able to install a bootloader. 03.37.14 # Yannni: The WPS parser is now much stricter, so check that your WPS is correct. 03.37.52 # like what could be wrong.. im not sure what to look for 03.38.44 # Maybe conditionals not being closed properly. If you use the new "--debugwps" option with the simulator, that can help 03.39.22 # hmm is there a link to some new insctuctions? 03.40.02 # Not really, and I'm far from an expert in WPSs... 03.40.40 # Maybe if you wait, someone who knows more than me will help you. 03.40.45 # darn they used to be so easy even i could do it lol 03.41.01 Quit jimbobuk () 03.41.12 # The syntax is the same, it's just that Rockbox is less tolerant of mistakes 03.41.17 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 03.41.41 # I'm assuming by "not works" you mean it isn't loading? 03.41.50 # yeah 03.42.14 # i go to load it and it stays on the default one 03.43.16 # Then the problem will be something wrong in your WPS. You could try removing some lines (especially the complicated ones) and see if you can get it to load. 03.43.33 # k 03.43.43 Join gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 03.43.57 # It could jus tbe something trivial like a missing > sign. 03.44.26 # yeah it probably is 03.45.16 # i remember freezing rockbox a few times when i was trying to make it a long time ago 03.46.00 # oh yeah i accidently turned on the database... is there a way to delete what i did cause i dont plan on using it 03.47.05 Quit rogelio_ ("Leaving") 04.08.19 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 04.19.55 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.24.01 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.14 Quit Ave (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.41 Join knapp [0] (n=knapp@67.132.247.218) 04.37.05 Quit knapp ("Leaving") 04.39.57 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p5484aa33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.44.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.48.36 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@shrv-c-068.resnet.purdue.edu) 04.48.57 Quit blithe (Client Quit) 04.50.34 Part TrueJournals 04.50.52 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 04.52.19 # fixed my wps.. had some extra spaces here and there 04.53.23 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.55.46 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.58.59 Part Yannni 04.59.08 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-95407646b01a5fe8) 05.11.21 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 05.19.01 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) 05.26.00 Quit pearldiver ("some games are better left unplayed") 05.46.11 Quit rotator () 05.50.14 Quit jaebird (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.03.24 Quit Arathis_ ("Bye, bye") 06.06.09 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.09.37 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-4023d088363000bd) 06.16.12 Quit xNibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.17.03 Join xNibbler [0] (n=sven@e181095051.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.20.32 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 06.28.51 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.29.14 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 06.34.49 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 06.37.25 Quit hostf4cekilla ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 06.44.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.45.41 Quit Bawitdaba (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.45.46 Join Bawitdaba [0] (n=Sphinx@cpe-24-25-130-25.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.46.01 Quit sando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.50.16 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 06.50.23 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 06.56.59 Join JdG|uni [0] (i=82c20d66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b2bd587e0f77edca) 07.02.47 Quit JdG|uni ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.05.38 Join Edge_ [0] (n=chatzill@c-76-108-37-141.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.05.46 # Hello? 07.05.57 # hello 07.06.04 Nick Edge_ is now known as Xaero (n=chatzill@c-76-108-37-141.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.06.34 Nick Xaero is now known as Revelation (n=chatzill@c-76-108-37-141.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.06.45 # Sorry about that. 07.07.09 # I was just curious about the Status of Rockbox and the Sansa e200R 07.07.17 # Since I haven't seen anything in the forums 07.07.48 # sorry I don't know 07.08.04 # doesnt work 07.08.27 Join mbr [0] (n=mbr@p3EE05989.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.08.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Port , but basically doesn't *work* yet 07.09.48 # I know already the E200 port works 07.09.56 # So will the E200R will never work? 07.10.12 # *So the E200R will never work because of it's encryption? 07.10.13 # i didnt say never, but it is a possibility 07.10.48 # How is it a possibility? 07.11.01 # how isnt it? 07.11.16 # Hold on 07.11.18 # until something is done, there is always a possibility it will never get done 07.11.44 # "We have not yet managed to replace the bootloader, to make it load our custom mi4 file." - Is this particular line referring to the e200R models or just the e200 model? 07.11.58 # R of course 07.12.14 # So it is possible to load it up 07.12.18 # I just won't work. 07.12.35 # *It 07.12.55 # what do you mean by "load it up" 07.14.16 # Well, never mind about that previous line I stated 07.14.25 # It's not going to work at all on a E200R, right? 07.14.39 # right 07.16.22 Quit gursikh ("Leaving") 07.17.49 # Has there been any progress made on the R series? 07.17.58 # no 07.18.03 # not recently 07.19.11 # Shoot. 07.19.46 # Well, it won't start working magically 07.20.15 # Someone with enough time and knowledge who has an E200R needs to make it work 07.20.24 # That just didn't happen so far 07.20.56 # I have a E200R, unfortunately... 07.21.01 # I don't know how to program. 07.21.19 # good chance to learn 07.21.47 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 07.23.50 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 07.27.41 Join heanol [0] (i=heanol@karantan.org) 07.29.00 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549655B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.30.57 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 07.31.56 Quit jhulst (Connection timed out) 07.38.14 Part toffe82 07.41.11 # hey all 07.49.18 Part Revelation 07.59.42 Part kaaloo 08.04.23 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.04.34 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 08.04.55 # Gigabeat: Separate driver for audio codec 08.04.56 # hmm 08.13.53 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 08.26.15 # * JdGordon 's h300 runing time... 102h 55m ! 08.30.32 # Never reset properly, eh? 08.30.51 # It should reset if the charger is plugged in while rockbox is running 08.31.20 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 08.35.58 # no, had it charging and runing for the last few days.. so its real 08.36.06 # no crashes or anything which is nice 08.36.39 # As long as the charger is plugged, the runtime counter should stay at 0:00.... 'cause it's for counting *battery* runtime... 08.37.28 # then there is a problem :p 08.37.32 # * amiconn already suspected that a bug slipped into the runtime logic :( 08.38.43 # iirc that screen just converts the current_tick value to a time 08.39.09 # If it does, then it's very wrong 08.39.58 # It used to store both runtime and top runtime in the config block, and keep on counting from the stored value on boot 08.40.28 # Plugging the charger clamped it to zero as long as it stayed plugged 08.43.41 Join Siltaar [0] (n=Siltaar@193.52.208.229) 08.44.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.45.43 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16AA1.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.46.10 # Hmm, the runtime reset is still there, but only in the viewer 08.46.19 # That cannot work properly... 08.48.44 # It used to be handled elsewhere, but I can't remember where... :( 08.48.47 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-809020b2109db38b) 08.50.48 # Probably the settings code 08.54.08 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3b3ab65b56d10fcf) 08.58.40 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.01.09 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 09.02.32 # hi LinusN :) 09.03.28 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.03.30 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.08.08 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.13.38 Join johny [0] (n=chatzill@p5B156E35.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.15.12 # B4gder: new hostmask? 09.15.34 # yeah, at a new customer's place now for a while forward 09.15.54 # doing anything exciting? 09.16.44 # linux hacking on an RFID-reader, running ARM9 core (in an at91rm9200). drivers, apps, and stuff 09.17.06 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.17.12 # jees...an ARM9 in an RFID-reader? 09.17.27 # seems a bit much 09.17.52 # nah, it is supposed to be able to run native apps and allow customers to design and build their own apps to run within the unit 09.17.59 # ah 09.18.00 # with web server, db and all 09.18.12 # nvm then =P 09.18.36 # :-) 09.19.12 Join myndzi [0] (i=myndzi@myndzi.seckzi.com) 09.19.12 # I bet they need 128MB RAM to run Java on it. 09.19.21 # no java, 32MB ram here 09.19.36 # 32MB, crazy! 09.19.42 # intgr: please dont use those kind of words in here 09.19.45 # lots of spare room 09.20.17 # scorche: Sorry, I didn't know profanities were disallowed here. 09.20.22 # they are 09.20.30 # the one used in this case was "Java" 09.20.40 # I prefer straight "coffee" 09.21.11 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 09.23.40 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-ea0fa99ea4986539) 09.36.43 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@host-84-9-130-156.bulldogdsl.com) 09.37.37 Quit myndzi\ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.42.15 # do we not have a stack for FIQ or something? 09.43.24 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 09.43.58 # eh, what I said makes no sense...ignore please :) 09.44.03 # tomorrow night, euro time, the svn/build server is moving 09.44.06 Part norbusan 09.45.05 # Slasheri: here? 09.45.05 Quit GodEater (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.45.19 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@host-84-9-130-156.bulldogdsl.com) 09.45.26 # Slasheri: 09.45.26 # svn: Can't open file '.svn/lock': Disk quota exceeded 09.47.14 # maybe I should make the build master clean up more after builds to reduce the disk usage 09.59.35 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 10.03.21 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.07.04 # B4gder: on xen or ihme? 10.07.17 # xen 10.07.31 # I logged in as rbclient on your hosts and poked a bit on them 10.07.35 # I hope you didn't mind 10.07.46 # ah, file quota was too low 10.07.51 # ihme didn't have the svn repo checked out 10.07.53 # that's ok 10.08.04 # for ihme the same password should work as well 10.08.16 # yes 10.08.23 # now file quota has been increased 10.08.36 # I checked my local repo and it is now at some 1.8GB in ~rbclient 10.08.57 # goodie 10.09.47 # and now something to eat, let's hope it will work again -> 10.20.47 # work rockbox on an ext2 partition?? 10.20.59 # johny: no 10.20.59 # no 10.21.03 # ok 10.21.13 # fat-32 only 10.28.10 Quit myndzi (Remote closed the connection) 10.30.12 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 10.39.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp56-202.adsl.forthnet.gr) 10.40.29 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 10.44.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.49.54 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 10.53.56 # yuck... did a recursive add to playlist while playing music and got a solid freeze :( 10.54.22 # ugha 10.54.47 # and it's reproducable :( 10.55.19 # * petur downloads latest svn 11.00.12 # mmm seems to work ok with svn... was using my first build made on linux :/ 11.02.13 # jep 11.03.41 # * petur blames linux :) 11.04.31 # I knew it... building the crosscompilers in 20 minutes, it must have taken a shortcut somewhere 11.04.40 # haha 11.18.23 Join webguest76 [0] (i=4a39d0be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e81667c76793753c) 11.19.55 Quit webguest76 (Client Quit) 11.26.28 # B4gder: Re build cleanup - what about running 'make clean' afterwards? It'd be done before the next build anyway 11.26.46 # Will be a little bit more complicated with background transfer though 11.27.25 # yeah, was thinking perhaps a single "wipe" command at the end of the build round 11.27.46 # "rm -f masterlog* && rm -rf build-*" 11.32.37 # That would still take as much disk space as now during build (i.e. all builds + ccache) 11.32.39 # lunch 11.32.49 # no, now it saves _all_ builds 11.32.54 # 59 build trees 11.32.57 # It'sno issue for me, my box has enough disk space... 11.33.07 # a "normal" build round is hardly more than 11 for the fastest ones 11.33.22 # bbl 11.33.24 Join lids_ [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-19e8b7aeeb0a9fbf) 11.33.40 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 11.34.53 Quit x-spec-ting (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.37.01 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 11.38.46 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp48-102.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 11.54.43 Join pixelma [0] (i=d5494c8e@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.54.52 Quit x-spec-ting (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 11.55.10 Quit Galois (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 11.56.29 # * jhMikeS spots obsolete code in arm/crt0(_pp).S 11.58.01 # nooo!! 11.58.03 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 11.58.22 # jhMikeS: good day btw :) 11.58.41 # hello 11.59.23 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 11.59.59 # markun: we don't need the fiq_handler branch routine since it's set explicitly in set_fiq_handler and that's only needed if it must be changed, for recording basically 12.01.00 # do we use fast interrupts for anything on the Gigabeat? 12.01.09 # yes, for playback 12.01.43 # Does it use DMA, or the same function as the PP chips? 12.01.49 # but set_fiq_handler just sets it to vector straight to fiq anyway 12.01.54 # it's DMA 12.02.06 # OK, so the DMA interrupt is a FIQ? 12.02.07 # and the PP chips don't even use the branch routine 12.02.15 # it's tied to that 12.03.25 # another gcc bug got me looking because gcc botches stack handling in a fiq apparently and I made some local variables that compelled stack use 12.07.02 # For the gigabeat or the Sansa? 12.07.31 # all...it's all the same 12.07.43 # We don't want to use the stack on PP... 12.08.02 # The FIQ handler was crafted to avoid stack use unless called the get_more function. 12.09.04 # well, it still vectors directy to the routine there, on gigabeat it should just use the stack really...it's up to the fiq implementation 12.09.42 # point is that fiq_handler is never used since set_fiq_handler changes it to use fiq directly 12.11.19 # changed since i wrote that, then 12.11.25 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 12.11.38 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 12.11.58 # I think it got added with pp recording 12.12.57 # gets rockboxX more bootloader sometime the GUI 12.19.50 # sweet, if I just use my own prologue/epilogue it works with stack vars :) 12.20.15 # johny: Is that a question? 12.20.27 # YES 12.20.39 # but im not sure rhat its corecrly written 12.21.26 # johny: It isn't... 12.21.46 # i want to know rockbox bootlaoder vecame a gui 12.21.51 # became 12.22.01 # if it became or will it become? 12.22.18 # johny: The Rockbox bootloader doesn't have a GUI and it is unlikely to ever have one. 12.22.46 # if you want a GUI, use the IPL loader, however, keep in mind that it is unsupported by us 12.22.54 # ok 12.23.19 # can you hgelp me with the ipl? 12.23.29 # i cant laod rockbox from 12.23.41 # read the second half of that statement 12.23.56 # it is unsupported by us 12.24.16 # meaning we will not help you with it, as we did not write it 12.24.38 # ok 12.25.15 # go to #ipodlinux for help with it...i see you went in there earlier 12.25.27 # get you money for programm rockbox? 12.25.41 # no, not really 12.25.55 # why not 12.26.02 # who would pay us? 12.26.04 # rockbox have 3 sponsors!? 12.26.16 # they help us with hosting, etc 12.26.17 # are you one johny ? 12.26.37 # where 12.26.42 Quit x-spec-ting (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.26.56 # one of sponosrs ;-) 12.27.06 # no^^ 12.27.52 # johny: but we get some donation money from happy users which we use for rockbox related things like buying beer :) 12.28.08 # aah.. 12.28.16 # johny: according to iPL, you just need to add rockbox to loader.cfg, look at ipodlinux wiki 12.28.35 # i already done it but it not work 12.28.36 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.28.48 # Rockbox@(hd0,1)/rockbox.ipod 12.28.53 # Rockbox @ (hd0,1)/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod 12.29.17 # few weeks ago location of rockbox.ipod changed 12.29.33 # ii have bothe try 12.30.23 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 12.30.54 # but i have ipl 2.4 12.31.00 # an the new is 2.5 12.31.18 # and i ont understand how can i install or update ipl 12.31.31 # desowin: if you are going to support it, can you do it in #ipodlinux or PMs please? 12.31.44 # ok 12.32.28 # why so strictly 12.32.51 # it's rockbox channel, not ipodlinux 12.33.00 # johny: read the first link in the topic and it will explain it 12.33.09 # johny: check pm 12.33.31 # desowin Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) 12.34.00 # then join #ipodlinux or some other channel 12.34.03 # * scorche shrugs 12.35.59 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 12.36.04 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 12.38.26 # linuxstb: maybe you should reply? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10240.0 12.41.35 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.41.44 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 12.42.52 Quit x-spec-ting (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 12.43.06 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 12.43.51 # markun: I haven't got there yet... I've been too busy to go and buy a screwdriver. 12.44.29 Join Lynx- [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 12.44.56 # damn 12.45.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.45.57 Quit Soap3 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 12.47.10 # anyone got time to take a quick look at some pseudo-code I knocked up for handling reads on the 80GB iPod ? --> http://pastebin.ca/468773 12.49.41 # clearly I left out the meat and bones to it - that's just the logic for determining where to start the read from, where to finish, and how to return that to the calling code (presumably the fat driver) 12.51.24 # there's also probably a more efficient way of doing the checks on odd/even, perhaps with something like : if(start & 1 == 1) ? 12.51.25 Quit x-spec-ting (Remote closed the connection) 12.51.29 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 12.52.35 # * GodEater watches the tumbleweed 12.55.25 Join lachlan [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f844192b2a144a41) 12.56.47 Part maffe 12.57.24 Part Llorean 12.58.14 Quit aliask (Remote closed the connection) 13.00.17 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.00.18 Nick Lynx- is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 13.00.43 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 13.00.55 Part ctaf 13.01.15 Join webguest75 [0] (i=51429e87@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f6674188ac845214) 13.01.38 # GodEater: Maybe LinusN would be interested in the code, I remember he was one of the devs concerned with the 80GB port 13.02.21 Quit lids_ (Remote closed the connection) 13.03.09 # yeah I was discussing the approach with him and amiconn yesterday 13.03.14 Quit x-spec-ting (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.03.23 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-46d0948553690faa) 13.03.50 # just to know, what's different in the 80gb ipod so that the 60 gb version don't work? 13.04.07 # spiorf: it's the other way round - the 80GB doesn't work - the 60GB does 13.04.34 # spiorf: also - here's the wiki page I wrote describing the issue : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodEightyGB 13.05.51 # GodEater, i know that, it's a language issue 13.06.08 # i meant the other way round :) 13.06.11 # spiorf: yes sorry - I re-read what you wrote and understood what you meant now ;) 13.06.54 # although I should probably update that page again now - I've decided to leave the FAT driver alone, and try the fix just in the ATA code 13.06.59 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 13.07.21 # it was the approach amiconn favoured too 13.10.31 # it was really necessary for apple's people to change to 1024 bytes units? ot it was just an "hey, let's change the unit size!" without reason? 13.10.49 # to be fair, it wasn't them that changed - it was Toshiba 13.11.14 # and it's a change that's been brewing for a while - large sectors are more efficient use of large disks 13.11.25 # I suspect we'll see it in more and more drives soon 13.17.12 # I wonder if reading a much larger block than even the 1024bytes would be usefull for all targets anyway... assuming most reads have some sort of block contiuity... 13.18.14 # GodEater: looks insanely inefficient, to read the whole thing into a temporary buffer first and then memcpy() to the real buffer 13.19.23 # LinusN: right - I'll rethink it then 13.19.57 # better handle the first and/or last sector separately 13.21.17 Quit johny ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 13.22.31 # JdGordon: It would not be useful unless more than one of those much larger blocks are cached, and the system is then used for those parts which are currently read one by one (FAT, directory) 13.22.49 # And it would only make sense on targets with lots of RAM to spare 13.24.43 # i'd say that all targets with 16megs or more has ram to spare 13.24.49 # amen 13.25.41 # * amiconn would think that it would only make sense on 32MB targets, or even more 13.27.15 # you could have a FAT cache of 250K and have a hard time to measure a battery time difference, especially since the FAT code would be faster 13.30.31 # wouldn't it be an ATA cache? 13.30.52 # no 13.31.31 # but what about when MrX wants to implement a different fs? 13.32.08 # then i'm sure that filesystem has other interseting things to cache 13.32.22 # I thought we'd never accept another FS anyway ? 13.32.51 # I don't see why we couldn't, if done nicely 13.33.04 # I don't see why we should 13.33.10 # hfs+ would be nice... 13.33.22 # but yeah, there is no real need for another fs 13.33.25 # I'm not saying there is a very good motive atm 13.33.36 # I'm mostly talking about a possible future 13.34.04 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.39.234) 13.34.28 # B4gder: i say we deal with that then 13.34.33 # yeah 13.34.47 # and now I say commit something darn it 13.34.57 # * B4gder wants to see 16 build servers in use 13.35.07 # i can make the build table red if you want :-) 13.35.29 # you updated your debian box? :-) 13.35.44 # i have to update it? 13.35.46 # but anyway.. wouldnt the cache in ATA work better anyway? just read 16kb from the requested block and then store a fair few of them LRU? 13.35.58 # LinusN: yes, if you want your sdl builds to go red on it 13.36.07 # aha :-) 13.36.11 # the native ld in debian unstable goes boom 13.36.18 # lovely 13.36.31 # indeed, that's loveliness defined 13.37.04 # btw, I vote for removing the #warning in thread.c 13.37.28 # keep it.. it will hurry jhMikeS with his fix 13.37.48 # he's looking into it? 13.38.24 # iirc he's got something closer to working... the 5002 is still causing problems but not as much.. or something? 13.38.43 # ok, then I'll let it rest for a while 13.38.48 # ditch the flaming 5002! 13.39.05 # yeah 13.39.11 # it's not like we' 13.39.18 # re anywhere near good functionality on that 13.40.18 # 5020, not 5002 13.40.32 # or... why not drop that one back to single core? 13.40.42 # And the 5020 is used on quite a number of targets 13.43.23 # * JdGordon brb 13.43.28 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.43.36 Quit petur ("stkov") 13.43.49 Join [1]Lynx_ [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 13.44.59 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 13.47.36 # * amiconn thinks that making rockbox work properly on PP5002 would be more fun than making it work on those overpowered targets like the gigabeat 13.47.52 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.49.29 # * GodEater thinks amiconn has a warped idea of "fun" 13.49.43 # it'd be more challenging, not necessarily more fun 13.50.04 # No challenge == no fun 13.50.23 # i'd rather _use_ an overpowered target than something old and crummy with less possibilities 13.50.59 # optimising codecs is challenging, but not necessarily fun... 13.50.59 # * amiconn rather uses something user friendly 13.51.09 # That excludes the ipods though 13.51.19 Quit SirFunk (Remote closed the connection) 13.51.43 # ...and most, if not all, color targets, for me anyway 13.52.09 # no pain, no gain :-) 13.52.51 Join bluebrother [0] (i=HYdq6LwT@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 13.53.11 # nah, if my choice of rockbox dev target was between an older more restricted target, and a newer more capable one, i'd go for the latter in a heartbeat 13.53.25 # LinusN: would moving the handling of the first / last sector stuff into copy_read_sectors() make more sense then in your opinion (I'm struggling to see how to do it otherwise) 13.53.51 # sure, it's fun to squeeze performance out of something restricted, but it's also fun to develop new stuff without having to bloody optimise it for weeks just to have it working 13.54.18 # in an ideal world, everything would be optimised to the last cycle, but this surely isn't one of those worlds 13.54.33 # world 2.0 is gonna be great! 13.54.37 # surely is 13.54.43 # * preglow looks forward to all the free beer 13.54.46 # B4gder: that's just marketing hype :) 13.55.06 # how about world 3.0 then? 13.55.12 # vaporware 13.55.16 # :) 13.55.22 # ;) 13.55.23 # you're saying we'll be living in the clouds? 13.55.23 # 3.0 can never happen, we know that 13.55.32 # world 3.11 for workgroups ftw! 13.55.36 # preglow: that would be awesome 13.55.53 # JdGordon: yeah, world 3.0 is likely to be very buggy 13.55.54 # world NT 3.51 *g* 13.56.04 # SP5 13.56.10 # we surely need world 2007 13.56.21 # na, they change te interface too much... 13.56.21 # "built on neanderthal technology" certainly fits 13.56.29 # ok - that's now exceeded my geek humour quotient for the day 13.56.44 # hehe ... I liked that startup screen by the time of NT4 13.56.58 # btw, any plans on Rockbox 2007? 13.57.16 # tshirts! 13.57.22 # gimme one! 13.57.44 # they haven't arrived yet 13.58.03 # * bluebrother jumps around in the hope to catch one 13.58.28 Quit xNibbler (Remote closed the connection) 13.58.28 # * JdGordon shoulders bluebrother out of the way to get to the front of the pack 14.00.15 Quit Lynx_ (Success) 14.00.15 Nick [1]Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 14.01.07 # GodEater: perhaps, but it might be necessary to handle it in ata_read_sectors() too, so you won't call copy_read_sectors() with an odd start sector repeatedly 14.03.01 # anyone know how to use wc to get the line count total for a directory? 14.03.12 # In ata_mmc.c the partial block stuff is handled in ata_read_sectors() / ata_write_sectors() 14.03.18 # linecount for all files you mean JdGordon ? 14.03.23 # yep 14.03.52 # I'd do it with a find -exec wc -l {} I think 14.04.13 # actually no that's stupid 14.04.30 # cat * | wc -l ? 14.04.43 # subdirs... :( 14.05.08 # ah 14.05.10 # erm 14.05.51 # sum up the result with gawk 14.05.52 # wc -l `find . -name "*" | xargs` 14.06.07 # sloccount 14.06.12 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 14.06.30 # but sloccount counts the value of the sources too ;-) 14.07.03 # Seriously 14.07.05 # My method works 14.07.09 # Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 435,474 14.07.28 # hmm. Did't sloccount also count hidden folders? 14.07.30 # * JdGordon apt-getting sloccount 14.07.31 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 14.07.35 # Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 118.02 (1,416.19) 14.07.54 # Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 15,942,336 14.08.01 # Rockbox sources? 14.08.03 # :-) 14.08.05 # yes 14.08.27 # too bad sloccount ca't do this for latex sources ;-) 14.08.28 # well, I ran it in the root so it it includes rbutil, sim, tools etc 14.08.32 # we're at half a million lines of code ?!?! 14.09.38 # wow. My personal pastebin gets spammed like hell :( 14.09.46 # Thundercloud's method doesn't work - it runs out of argument space 14.10.27 # one could cat everything and pipe it to wc 14.10.41 # Well it works for smaller projects. 14.10.46 # Or perhaps if you change * to *.c or whatever. 14.11.07 # Thundercloud: cheers.. your worked well 14.11.20 # or -type f 14.11.22 # Woot :P 14.13.42 Quit webguest75 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.15.14 Quit lachlan ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.18.30 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.21.40 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-730b2c2fbbe070af) 14.24.29 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@m34.net81-65-114.noos.fr) 14.32.51 Join RaRe` [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 14.41.22 Quit x-spec-ting (Remote closed the connection) 14.41.29 Join x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 14.43.15 Quit RaRe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.45.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.47.56 # darn, only 14 servers 14.48.09 Part TrueJournals 14.50.56 # the player size delta is indeed puzzling 14.54.22 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@dhcp02.algebra.tuwien.ac.at) 14.54.28 Part norbusan 14.56.14 # So is the H10 one since that's PP 14.57.12 # yes, but i figure a 20 bytes could be due to the standard 32/64 bit compiler diffs 14.59.49 Part kaaloo 15.05.12 # * preglow needs to refer to sloccount more when negotiating pay 15.07.30 Join skatteola [0] (n=david@kr-lun-154-150-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 15.07.57 # Rockbox is worth $36.61/line? :o 15.08.16 # we better start collecting! 15.08.38 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@adsl-35-180-92.dab.bellsouth.net) 15.08.38 # some lines demand a premium 15.10.02 # * preglow demands a premium for eq.c 15.10.06 # bloody fixed point... 15.10.23 # hehe...fun stuff indeed 15.13.11 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 15.13.57 # preglow: I saw that Blackfin has a few fixed point data types 15.14.47 # B4gder: Do we have the .map files available these days? 15.16.33 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-235-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.16.54 # nope 15.18.20 # :( 15.18.45 # JdGordon: you here? 15.18.53 # depends 15.18.54 # B4gder: whens your devcon? 15.19.08 # 19-20 may 15.20.13 # it's frigging 12 people on the devcon west possibly-coming list 15.20.33 # B4gder: any chance of a skype conference call on the day? 15.20.48 # markun: blackfin is all about fixed point 15.20.54 # skype? now that sounds like a kind of insect... 15.21.15 # they have skype in sweden dont they? 15.21.28 # do they offer free conference calls? 15.21.37 # isn't that limited somehow 15.21.58 # why skype? :S 15.21.58 # but it would be cool 15.22.10 Quit z35 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.22.12 # im pretty sure they do 15.22.19 # * JdGordon wants to be there in sprit :p 15.22.42 # updated class diagram.dia 15.22.50 # bah.. stupid clipboard 15.22.53 # http://www.skype.com/help/guides/conference.html 15.22.55 # you can be there with spirits 15.22.57 # that will also be fun 15.23.07 # :-) 15.26.43 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AE44A.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.29.01 Part LinusN 15.29.28 Quit B4gder ("It is time to say MOOO") 15.30.54 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.30.57 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp25-98.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.37.43 Quit XavierGr () 15.39.20 Quit roolku () 15.41.37 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.45.42 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AA33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.48.06 Quit Entasis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.49.03 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.49.07 Join nls [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 15.54.45 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 15.56.07 # I have a small linking problem : failed to load /.rockbox/rocks//sudoku.rock 15.56.07 # dlopen(archos/.rockbox/rocks//sudoku.rock): archos/.rockbox/rocks//sudoku.rock: undefined symbol: talk_number 15.56.07 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-e1c7cd276a308f51) 15.56.25 # it appears at run time 15.57.01 Join olle46536 [0] (i=olle@h129n1fls34o836.telia.com) 15.57.03 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 15.57.07 # I have locally modified a little bit the source code of sudoku.c 15.57.34 # to add a call on talk_number 15.57.56 # it compiles, but the plugin refuse to be loaded then... 16.02.18 # did it load ok, before you modified it? 16.04.14 # You can't just use a core function like this 16.05.40 # Of course it will compile and link for the sim because sim plugins are shared libraries 16.05.56 # But then you can't run it as the symbol can't be resolved 16.07.09 # ok 16.07.10 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 16.07.15 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p5484AA33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.07.21 # so I should redefine the function I need ? 16.07.45 # If you need a core function in a plugin, you have to export it via the plugin api and then call it from the plugin using the api 16.08.04 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i59F44C65.versanet.de) 16.08.19 Join pixelma [0] (i=d5494c16@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.08.29 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@dhcp-892b9ade.ucd.ie) 16.13.33 # amiconn, is it explained somewhere on www.rockbox.org website ? 16.13.46 # where should I find examples ? 16.14.14 # (if it's not already documented in the wiki, I could write something...) 16.14.41 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7E13.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.15.35 Join Av3 [0] (n=ave@dsl-tkubras1-ff50c000-183.dhcp.inet.fi) 16.20.59 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p5484AA33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.23.56 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 16.25.13 Quit olle46536 () 16.25.22 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-3569a37ad153b94b) 16.25.41 Join olle46536 [0] (i=olle@h129n1fls34o836.telia.com) 16.26.42 Nick z35_1 is now known as z35 (n=z@adsl-35-180-92.dab.bellsouth.net) 16.34.39 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 16.37.06 Join kaalo1 [0] (n=luis@bne75-7-82-230-110-107.fbx.proxad.net) 16.37.27 Part kaalo1 16.45.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.45.26 Join stefan [0] (i=stefan@c-b524e455.011-39-6c6b7012.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 16.48.20 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@ppp-68-251-44-79.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 16.50.19 Join gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 16.51.21 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.52.09 # ok, adding the function in the Plugin API struct, it works 16.52.32 # I will drop a note about that on : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins 16.53.55 Quit mbr ("User disconnected") 16.55.07 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-075-177-158-190.nc.res.rr.com) 16.55.37 Join himitsu [0] (n=himitsu@61.213.184.100) 16.58.23 # anyone here that knows anything about if creative zen vision M is about to be cracked? 16.59.45 Quit olle46536 () 16.59.49 # stefan: I don't know, but there is a forum thread about it 16.59.55 Join olle46536 [0] (i=olle@h129n1fls34o836.telia.com) 17.00.04 Quit Siltaar (Remote closed the connection) 17.00.20 # also, it's pretty hard to predict how far you are from cracking something 17.02.23 Part ctaf 17.03.17 # unless you can see into the future ;) 17.07.29 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 17.07.41 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) 17.15.32 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 17.17.03 Join hostf4cekilla [0] (n=chatzill@pool-70-22-207-151.bos.east.verizon.net) 17.17.16 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.17.45 Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6FEB5.versanet.de) 17.21.21 Quit olle46536 () 17.38.55 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.46.51 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.55 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 17.47.05 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 17.47.55 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.50.30 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@adsl-1-25-39.dab.bellsouth.net) 17.50.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 17.54.02 # anyone insterested in helping out with the sample strings for loadable keymaps? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts 17.57.00 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7E13.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.59.02 Quit amiconn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.59.02 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 17.59.04 # markun: Do you mean sample .kbd files? 18.00.53 Quit gursikh (Client Quit) 18.01.45 # linuxstb: I was more thinking of providing sample strings so people can quickly create their own personal kbd file 18.01.53 Quit z35 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.01.59 # but maybe some good sample files will be nice too 18.02.01 Quit nvz1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.02.48 Join nvz1 [0] (i=a@cpe-24-24-93-5.stny.res.rr.com) 18.02.56 # Hm.. I have to look in combining for thai script 18.08.25 # and typing hebrew and arabic will also not work so well I guess 18.09.50 Quit z35_1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.19.00 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@adsl-226-228-239.dab.bellsouth.net) 18.19.45 # hmm. ATA error -1 was bad connection? 18.24.32 Join fagin [0] (n=fagin@81-237-195-28-no16.tbcn.telia.com) 18.24.32 Quit Rincewind_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.35.10 Quit stefan (Remote closed the connection) 18.35.11 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.35.31 Join myrkx [0] (i=TheCapta@ip70-162-18-62.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.36.40 # how come when I add music to iTunes, it says it syncs it to the iPod, but the new music doesn't show up in the database? 18.37.01 Join Pimpdaddypayne [0] (n=Tux@cpe-065-184-162-064.ec.res.rr.com) 18.42.17 # do you have auto-update of the database enabled? 18.44.50 # bluebrother: yes 18.45.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.47.28 # hmm. But I'm right assuming the files itself play fine with rockbox? 18.48.39 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.48.47 # it only shows the original 3 songs that were there when I installed rockbox, none of the new ones show up at all 18.49.54 # so, when using the file browser, can you play the files? 18.50.23 # nope 18.50.43 # have you purchased those files in the itunes music store? 18.51.17 # no, they are mp3's I burned from my CD's 18.51.39 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 18.51.50 # how have you tried playing the files? 18.52.25 # the original 3 songs won't play now either, even though they show up in the database list 18.52.46 # did you use the "files" entry in the main menu? 18.53.04 # and how does not playing result? Do you get an error message? 18.53.15 # no id3 18.53.30 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 18.54.07 # I can't find any songs via the file route 18.54.19 # look in /iPodControl/Music 18.54.38 # there should be a couple of randomly named folders with randomly named files in it. 18.55.10 # It would be so much easier if the iPod named folders and files according to what they are actually named 18.55.13 # under files, it comes up blank now, no subdirectories at all 18.56.09 # the folder is most likely hidden, set file types to all. 18.56.21 # (from the quick menu or through the settings) 18.56.25 # sec 18.57.01 # where in the settings? 18.57.21 # nevermind, I found it 18.57.45 # settings / General settings / File view 18.59.58 # no way to get the track names to show up? 19.00.44 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.02.08 # no, itunes will rename the files to something arbitrarily mixed 19.02.21 # how about if I remove the ./rockbox folder, reset, let the original OS synch, then put the ./rockbox folder back? 19.02.23 # so, can you find files in that folder and play them back? 19.02.34 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 19.02.44 # shouldn't make any difference -- it's just a folder on disk 19.03.06 # and I never heard of someone that additional data caused problems while syncing 19.03.06 # yes, under files (with funky tags), but under database just the 3 show 19.03.20 # ok, so you can play those funky named files? 19.03.26 # yes 19.03.46 # then it's definitely a database issue. 19.04.06 # remove all database*.tcd files in the /.rockbox folder and reinitialize the database 19.04.24 # ok, give me a second 19.04.45 # myrkx, you know what i like to do? i used ipod too.. 19.05.15 # myrkx, when i am in disk mode, i created a folder called "Music" and transferred all my mp3s to it, and just play them from the Files menu...that way I know what I am playing 19.06.44 # I'm trying to set this up for a blind 11 year old, need to keep it simple as possible 19.07.01 # in that case you'll be better with not using the database 19.07.06 # bluebrother: how do you reinitialise database? 19.07.25 # as Rockbox can voice filenames, but not spell out the database items (yet) 19.07.40 # there is an entry in the settings ... General settings / Database iirc 19.08.00 # bluebrother, how do you get it to voice filenames? i havent learned that yet 19.08.15 # you need to pre-generate voice clips. 19.08.25 # Haven't done that myself yet, check the wiki 19.08.43 # Oh, I thought it was text-to-speec 19.08.44 # h 19.08.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceHowto 19.09.17 # no, we don't have a TTS yet. Because of that you can't read the database entries 19.09.20 # You can either have rockbox speel the filenames, or just voice the file number and -type. This can be done without individual clips 19.09.34 # If you want the name spoken for real, you need clips 19.10.00 # can the database spell the items too? 19.10.06 # I thought it can't 19.10.12 # I don't know, I normally don't use it 19.10.28 # Spelling should be possible if it's not there yet 19.11.03 # Even clips should be possible (for the tracks, not for the folders) as the database knows the path 19.11.39 # hmm. But that wouldn't be nice with the file names itunes generates ;-) 19.11.55 # True 19.12.09 # But spelling would use the tag contents, not the file names 19.12.29 # hmm. No voice file on my ipod :( 19.13.40 # * bluebrother goes building a voice file 19.14.06 # yes it spells them - it even spells the track length with them that got currently added to the entries 19.14.41 # hmm 19.14.48 # don't know about the prepared clips though 19.14.50 # rockbox seems to use a lot of battery power compared to the ipod os 19.14.53 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 19.16.30 Join artmess [0] (i=42bf4772@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fae62d24f9724851) 19.18.13 # Hi everyone. I'm using rockbox and loving it. I have flac files in a directory and some mp3 that I use the ipod firmware for. When I tell rockbox to build the database it only seems to do it with those mp3 files in the ipod's directory, anyone know how I can have it database the directory of flac files I have? 19.18.20 # markun, here? 19.18.42 # Domonoky: congrats on your commit :) 19.18.47 # :-) 19.19.15 # i am now preparing a win binary for the wiki,.. :-) 19.20.04 # would you like a linux bin ? 19.20.39 # jeah, if the bin also works on other linux :-) 19.20.46 # not sure about that 19.21.02 # and it would be nice, if linuxstb could make a new MacOsX binary.. 19.21.13 # or somebody els with a mac.. 19.21.27 # are there people willing to test a linux rbutil binary ? 19.22.58 Join joaa [0] (i=joe@host81-152-81-147.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) 19.25.01 # eh? what's the rbutil do again? 19.25.09 # i could test the binary 19.25.35 # krazykit: it's an utility to install rockbox on players 19.25.35 # rbutil install rockbox and extras.. 19.25.45 # ah 19.26.01 # Domonoky: The binary should work on other linuxes(?) of the same architecture if it doesn't need shared libraries (or only ones with are available everywhere) 19.26.42 # Btw, binaries (especially for windows) should be put on download.rockbox.org rather than in the wiki 19.27.13 # i think the can be move to download.rockbox.org when rbutils mature.. 19.27.53 # Even if it's not (yet)... this is mainly a virus protection measure 19.28.35 # oki, but first, we need the binarys, then they can be moved :-) 19.29.20 Quit heanol (Remote closed the connection) 19.30.10 # here's my linux bin: http://nicolas.pennequin.free.fr/rockbox/rbutil 19.31.32 # Nico_P: you have to bundle the ini file, so make a tar.gz or so.. 19.31.39 # ok 19.32.31 # Domonoky: only the bin and the .ini ? 19.33.42 # yes 19.34.34 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.35.17 # Nico_P: on what distro did you build it? 19.35.35 # bluebrother: kubuntu feisty 19.35.59 # ok. Doesn't run on FC5 at least 19.36.07 # http://nicolas.pennequin.free.fr/rockbox/rbutil.tar.gz 19.36.14 # bluebrother: why ? 19.36.24 # ./rbutil: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 19.36.33 # bluebrother, you need wxgtk installed 19.36.41 # but I was surprised by the size anyway ... 19.37.12 # krazykit: I know it needs wxwidgets -- but wasn't the idea linking it statically so it runs on systems without wx installed too? 19.37.30 # guess it wasn't built statically :-P 19.37.44 # though it looks like i don't have aui installed either 19.38.18 # bluebrother: how do I do that ? 19.38.18 # i dont think statically linking to wxwidgets works (there was something on their webpage) 19.38.19 Quit artmess ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.38.29 # Domonoky: the groupboxes in the tabs have different widths... it gives a strange impression when changing tabs: the buttons move 19.38.55 # didn't linuxstb create a static binary once? 19.38.58 # also, debian lenny has wxgtk 2.6 anyway 19.39.21 # so i couldn't run it as is 19.39.38 # Nico_P: you are right, they just use the minimum width, but at the moment functionality bevor nice GUI things :-) 19.40.25 Join stefan_ [0] (i=stefan@c-b524e455.011-39-6c6b7012.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 19.41.57 # * petur wonders if any linux (ubuntu) guru could PM him re screwed up video driver install 19.42.48 # petur, i bet #ubuntu could help 19.42.56 # * bluebrother doesn't use ubuntu 19.43.07 # * krazykit refuses to use ubuntu 19.43.25 # hehe 19.43.40 # petur: what kind of video card do you have ? 19.43.55 # nvidia 19.43.57 # krazykit: why ? 19.44.02 # several reasons 19.44.08 # their bug tracker is closed source, for one 19.44.13 # petur: I use the bin drivers 19.44.20 # works fine 19.44.26 # errr... I wanted PM so as not to drop the channel into offtopc linux talk 19.44.31 # i think they're still patching firefox with their own patches, but are still calling it firefox, violating the liscense 19.44.36 # petur: too late ;-) 19.44.38 # petur: ok, PM :) 19.44.47 # * bluebrother remembers the dash thing 19.45.02 Quit pearldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.45.19 # * bluebrother remembers he has to fix the manual makefile because of that 19.46.06 # but i can't go into those reasons more because i have a final in 15 minutes 19.46.45 # so rbutil is now updated in the wiki (only win), next step: sansapatcher integration :-) 19.46.46 # i'll try to make a static build in a couple hours though 19.47.30 # if someone likes to helpout with rbutil, please step in :-) 19.48.00 # * bluebrother doesn't like wx ... 19.48.26 # bluebrother: feel free to rebuild it in qt.. :-) 19.48.49 # hehe ... I'm only missing the time for doing so ;-) 19.49.14 # Domonoky: I can build a Mac OS X binary now, but I agree with amiconn that binaries shouldn't be in the wiki 19.49.24 # jeah it would be a big task, thats why i stay in wx.. :-) 19.50.09 # why is the program icon an archos device? Wouldn't it be better to have the Rockbox logo there? 19.50.35 # leftover from earlyer times.. 19.50.41 Quit joaa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.50.51 # hmm. How can I set a proxy? 19.51.07 # not possible at moment.. 19.51.34 # i once tried to make a proxy setting but it didnt work.. 19.51.51 # then I can't test at all ... I need to use a proxy from my connection 19.52.04 # i just dont know enough about wx.. :-/ 19.56.35 # bluebrother: can you compile rbutil ? 19.58.42 Join Khalsa [0] (n=Gursikh@unaffiliated/gursikh) 20.00.40 # Domonoky: no wx 2.8 here (yet) 20.00.57 # If any Mac users want to try it, rbutil 0.3.1 is here - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rbutil-0.3.1.dmg 20.01.15 Join webguest21 [0] (i=55b4c80e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9337d06e2524d230) 20.01.17 # * linuxstb pings Bagder or anyone else with access to download.rockbox.org 20.03.36 Quit Khalsa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.05.37 Join Gursikh [0] (n=Gursikh@unaffiliated/gursikh) 20.08.30 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC") 20.08.37 Join webguest21 [0] (i=55b4c80e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d160af99e6d9cc80) 20.11.32 Quit Gursikh (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.12.34 Join Gursikh [0] (n=Gursikh@unaffiliated/gursikh) 20.16.41 Join web-taz [0] (n=taz@p50819252.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.23.06 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@admin-147-222.potsdam.edu) 20.23.25 # * amiconn found this: http://lists.wxwidgets.org/archive/wx-users/msg06794.html 20.23.49 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E5CC.versanet.de) 20.25.23 # Slasheri: ihme runs an outdated arm-elf-gcc 20.25.46 # (that caused the RED - jhMikeS' commit isn't the cause) 20.30.00 Quit Gursikh ("Leaving") 20.30.06 # Sorry Nico_P's commit... but that's not the point anyway 20.30.41 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.41.53 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 20.44.45 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 20.45.02 Join bluebrother [0] (i=aW5GCnkk@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.45.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.46.41 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.46.57 Join mutantpineapple [0] (n=dan@87.112.4.11.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net) 20.48.23 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp258-244.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.51.28 Quit Guile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.51.38 Quit ender` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.52.46 Quit myrkx () 20.53.06 Quit stefan_ ("Lämnar") 21.01.31 Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@88-137-121-91.adslgp.cegetel.net) 21.01.48 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.231.172) 21.02.21 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 21.02.51 Join lids_ [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-c5b54ed040cedd04) 21.03.23 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 21.09.33 Quit davina (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.12.42 # what is the screensize of the sansa ? 21.13.48 # * Domonoky tries to summon linuxstb :-) 21.13.59 # * amiconn points Domonoky to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart 21.14.27 # thx 21.14.38 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 21.17.03 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.17.26 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 21.17.52 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.17.58 # Domonoky, just tried rbutil on linux ... it doesn't advice the user that you need to run it as root for bootloader installation 21.18.36 # only for ipods.. but it should mention something.. 21.18.58 # yeah, that is why I mentioned it ;-) 21.19.01 # i mean i should put some more text into it :-) 21.19.09 # when running as root it detected my ipod just fine 21.19.17 # bluebrother: Not everyone will need to run it as root - it depends on permissions/groups etc. 21.19.32 # jeah its ipodpatcher which needs this.. 21.19.47 # hmm -- doesn't ipodpatcher need direct access to the disk? 21.19.57 # Yes. 21.20.14 # linuxstb: any objections against this patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7102 (for sansapatcher) 21.20.36 # In my Debian at least, removable drives are in the "floppy" group, and I've added myself to that group. 21.22.51 # fc5 uses this strange gnome-mount thing, and the device files get added to the group "disk" 21.23.26 # Domonoky: That patch seems mostly white-space changes... 21.23.58 # ignore the whitespaces :-) bad editor.. 21.24.40 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 21.25.10 # Domonoky: Also, it looks like the int2be function can just be deleted - it's not used. 21.27.40 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 21.30.23 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.32.26 Quit web-taz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.40.01 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 21.48.28 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 21.52.55 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 21.53.12 Join Shooz [0] (i=Ben@dynamic-acs-24-154-23-30.zoominternet.net) 21.54.07 # hey my wps screen doesn't seem to be loading on the sansa, the rest of the themes work fine, but the WPS doesnt load, im using a pretty recent rockbox build? any suggestions? 21.57.37 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 21.57.42 # Shooz, sure that your wps isn't broken? 21.58.31 # broken as in? 21.58.53 # ah, working again, just updated rockbox 21.59.00 # guess my build was just about a day to old 21.59.13 # sorry to bother you 21.59.17 Quit Shooz () 22.00.42 # * Domonoky will now commit sansa support in rbutil, i hope i dont break the sansapatcher.. :-) 22.05.41 Quit lids_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.07.19 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 22.07.57 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-0890bd8d56cb469d) 22.08.15 Join Rincewind_ [0] (i=t8QePFrg@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 22.16.58 Join webguest21 [0] (i=3fad1312@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eeed122b42816d0c) 22.17.29 # Domonoky... thanks for the Sansa fixes for rbutil 22.17.40 # Will you update the downloadable version to bring it up to date? 22.17.56 Quit hostf4cekilla ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 22.17.59 # i am just uploading the win binary to the wiki 22.18.08 # Outstanding. Thanks very much 22.18.47 Join syntaxman [0] (n=syntaxma@kernel-panic/member/syntaxman) 22.19.40 Quit webguest21 (Client Quit) 22.20.10 # * petur is against executables in the wiki 22.20.35 # yeah they should be move to download.rockbox.org 22.21.21 # but then its not so easy to update.. 22.22.25 # hmm.. my nano froze when I started the star plugin.. Aside from prying it open and removing the battery, how can I reset this? 22.22.40 # what files should I put on the dl site for rbutil? 22.22.56 # syntaxman: hold menu+select for ~10 sec 22.23.22 # Bagder the rbutil-v0.3.2.zip for windows.. 22.23.56 # and the Mac .dmg file, when linuxstb updates it (at the moment its outdated) 22.24.07 # Oh.. for that long? Yup... it worked. Thank you Domonoky! 22.25.53 # ok, rbutil for win is uploaded there 22.25.57 # http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/win32/ 22.26.42 # thx, i will change the wikipage 22.30.15 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 22.31.54 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.35.36 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 22.36.08 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.38 Join webguest76 [0] (i=3fad1312@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-20415c9e84578721) 22.37.04 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E5CC.versanet.de) 22.37.19 # Domonoky... tried rbutil with my Sansa. FWIW, font updating seems to work well. 22.37.35 # I note that autodetect does not, however. Is that as you'd expect? 22.38.20 # font installing is the same on any player.. interesting is autodetect and the bootloader install.. 22.38.27 Join Rincewind^moep [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6F60E.versanet.de) 22.38.39 # autodetect does not work ? hm.. 22.39.12 # I had the Sansa connected and then started rbutil. It doesn't see it. 22.39.26 # Let me try disconnecting, starting the program, and then connecting. 22.39.30 # ah, you have to use the autodetect button :-) 22.40.02 # Well, I did... had the Sansa connected, started rbutil, and clicked Autodetect... got an error message, no device detected. 22.40.17 # hm, bad.. will check the code.. 22.40.33 # OK... just a data point. 22.41.33 # hm.. have you installed the bootloader with sansapatcher ? 22.41.52 # question is, can sansapatcher detect the player itself? 22.41.52 # (perhaps it is a fault of sansapatcher.. :-) ) 22.42.20 # Yes, I have Rockbox up and running on my Sansa. I hadn't tried the bootloader install with the utility. 22.42.41 # I just did, though, and it doesn't work. 22.42.50 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 22.43.17 # webguest76: which method for installing the bootloader have you used befor ? 22.43.31 # Sansapatcher. 22.43.57 # Before that, I used the old method with that other program, forget the name. Both worked. 22.44.12 # hm.. bad.. 22.44.33 # I'm going to try starting rbutil and then connecting the Sansa next. 22.44.37 # so sansapatcher can detect your sansa.. 22.44.50 # Yes indeed. 22.44.50 # webguest76: that wont change it.. 22.45.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.45.16 # You'd know that better than I but I'll try anyway for grins. 22.45.44 # :-) 22.46.20 # webguest76, is your sansa connected in UMS mode ? 22.46.53 # No device again. 22.47.21 # Wait a sec, I get confused about these modes... 22.47.35 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@91.84.96.42) 22.48.15 # rbutil should do the same as sansapatcher.. so i am a bit confused, why it doesnt find it (i dont have a sansa to test it) 22.48.19 # Rebooting it, but I have an SD card and the database refresh takes a bit. 22.48.30 Join webguest92 [0] (i=cf3fdb02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2ed9fc8c51695110) 22.48.57 # USB mode is what the Sansa calls MSC. 22.49.14 # i think so, UMS = MSC 22.49.28 # Should I try MTP? 22.49.46 # no, in MTP it will not work.. 22.50.00 # hi i got a question i'm trying to change the themes on rockbox but when they change the backdrops dont show up just the icons.do you know why? 22.50.51 # please help me out i tried to change them a million times???? 22.51.24 # webguest92: is the backdrop in the right place ? 22.51.25 # Short of your pending code changes, is there anything else you'd like me to try? 22.51.39 # yeah 22.51.49 # they are all in the same place 22.52.09 Quit Rincewind_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.52.12 # webguest76: nothing more sansa specific, but testing is always welcome 22.52.35 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.52.37 # OK... I'll watch for updates. thanks for the work you've done to date. 22.53.14 # webguest92: check the theme.cfg if the filename for the backdrop is right.. where do you got this theme 22.53.26 # webguest92: also, have you tried other themes ? 22.54.00 # yeah i tried all of them 22.54.11 # and all have the same problem ? 22.54.16 # the onlyone that works is the yankees theme 22.54.30 # webguest92: Which DAP do you have? 22.54.40 # what do you mean? 22.54.57 # webguest92: what device you have.. 22.54.59 # Which Digital Audio Player do you have? 22.55.09 # pod 22.55.11 # and is it a official build ? or custom ? 22.55.11 # ipod 22.55.16 # 5g 22.55.59 # i got it from the rockbox site? so i dont know... 22.56.25 # i think its a build 22.56.32 # then it should be official, how old is the build ? 22.56.33 # i think... 22.57.14 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 22.57.18 # Try updating the build 22.57.37 # i'm not really sure how can i figure that out. i just downloaded theme like a week ago. i went to google / search and i typed rockbox themes. 22.57.46 # how can i update it? 22.58.01 # no i mean the time of your rockbox version.. 22.58.02 # iPod 5G = iPod video, correct? 22.58.09 # oh 22.58.14 # yeah 22.58.17 # corct' 22.58.20 # correct 22.58.29 # i suck at typing! XD 22.58.35 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484aa33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.58.44 # OK, download the latest rockbox from http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip and extract the zip to the root of your iPod 22.58.53 # ok thanks 22.59.08 # That SHOULD fix the problem... might not though... 22.59.10 # or use rbutil :-) 22.59.18 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 22.59.24 # Domonoky... one last thing on rbutil. Autodetect or not, the installer does work for me. 22.59.47 # the bootloader installer works but autodetect not ? 23.00.00 # Domonoky: Is your goal to eventually get autodetect working for all targets? 23.00.10 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.00.16 # No, bootloader installer doesn't work, but install of the current build of Rockbox itself does. 23.00.24 # TrueJournals: it would be nice, but at the moment i dont know how to :-) 23.01.04 # webguest76: ah, thats expected, so everthing is working except sansapatcher.. 23.01.25 # Seems that way. Just thought you'd like to know. 23.01.25 Quit webguest92 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.01.34 # Domonoky: Well, I can help a little... For the H10 20 GB, there will be a file in /System/ called "H10_20GC.mi4" ( /System/H10_20GC.mi4 )... don't know how you have autodetect set up, but you could probably just search for that file. 23.01.51 # webguest76: jeah, thanxs for testing 23.02.09 # No problem. I was feeling a little adventurous. :-) 23.02.13 # Actually, how do you have autodetect set up? 23.02.32 # TrueJournals: we now also have a rockbox-info.txt which could be used.. 23.02.36 Quit webguest76 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.02.44 # Didn't think about that... 23.02.45 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.58 # at the moment autodetect just uses ipodpatcher and sansapatcher to detect them.. 23.03.26 # Well, I don't know much about coding, but I think another good way would be to scan USB device IDs 23.03.30 Join San [0] (n=undergro@192.122.217.11) 23.04.06 # Because that would work even if it's the first time installing rockbox for a user (rockbox-info.txt would not exist in this case...) 23.04.08 # TrueJournals: The Device IDs would be a good way, but thats not easy to make it work on everyplatform (win/lin/mac) 23.04.24 # Ah, OK 23.04.34 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.04.53 # on linuxit should be easy, on windows its strange and on mac, i dont know.. :-) 23.05.06 # Well, like I said, I'm not a coder :-\ 23.05.51 # i thought about using libUSB, (exists for win and Lin) but its a bit overkill and would add anothe depencie 23.06.17 # noncoders have a easy life :-) 23.06.20 Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@62.214.237.59) 23.06.28 # Heh 23.06.41 # Well, I think I'm going to try to get into C a little this summer 23.07.07 # thats good, go for it :-) 23.07.09 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.07.53 # linuxstb: i hope i didnt broke the sanspatcher :-) 23.08.15 # Domonoky: I can't see how you would, but I don't have a Sansa to test it on. 23.08.26 # :-) 23.08.45 # BTW, see my recent commit. rbutil wouldn't compile for me on Mac OS X as sectorbuf was defined in both ipodpatcher.c and sansapatcher.c 23.10.40 # now i only need sansa owners to test rbutil, or i need to buy one :-) 23.12.21 Part toffe82 23.13.15 Part nls 23.19.13 Join Gursikh [0] (n=Gursikh@unaffiliated/gursikh) 23.24.26 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967710.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.25.33 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit) 23.27.34 # * davina is away: sleeping 23.30.59 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.31.53 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! 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