--- Log for 13.05.107 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 9 hours ago 00.03.35 Join Caliban [0] (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 00.06.12 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 00.06.12 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.06.17 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 00.06.50 Quit Jon-Kha ("leaving") 00.07.10 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 00.07.19 Join chrisjs169|afk [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.09.54 Quit Jon-Kha (Client Quit) 00.12.10 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.12.43 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 00.12.54 # So, what do you think about Serbia's song? 00.18.25 Quit FOAD_ ("I'll be back") 00.18.38 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.20.59 Quit chrisjs169|brb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.22.07 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E020.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.24.00 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 00.24.00 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.05 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 00.24.39 Quit zivan56 (Client Quit) 00.32.48 Join element_g [0] (n=g-force@S0106001346a401fd.ed.shawcable.net) 00.33.06 Quit lozzy ("Leaving") 00.41.24 Join krush1704 [0] (n=andikrus@p57bb18ec.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.43.41 Nick n17ikh is now known as n17ikh|Lappy (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-114-46.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 00.49.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.50.42 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.196.220) 00.50.44 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 00.53.54 Join root____ [0] (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 00.53.57 Nick root____ is now known as root (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 00.55.56 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.55.59 Quit root (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.56.44 Join root____ [0] (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 00.56.48 Nick root____ is now known as root (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 01.02.21 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.05.24 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.06.58 Join chrisjs169|brb [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.07.13 Quit midkay_ ("Leaving") 01.07.20 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.07.26 Quit midkay (Nick collision from services.) 01.07.30 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.09.24 Quit midkay (Client Quit) 01.10.00 Part krush1704 01.10.36 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new IRC era") 01.10.38 Join krush1704 [0] (n=andikrus@p57bb18ec.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.11.44 Part krush1704 01.11.56 Join krush1704 [0] (n=andikrus@p57bb18ec.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.11.57 Part krush1704 01.16.25 Part Domonoky 01.17.13 Join krush1704 [0] (n=andikrus@p57bb18ec.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.19.24 Part nls 01.20.04 Quit chrisjs169|afk (Connection timed out) 01.23.13 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 01.23.20 Part krush1704 01.26.15 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 01.28.32 Quit oKtosiTe (Client Quit) 01.30.25 Quit chrisjs169|brb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.19 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.44.06 Part maffe 01.44.46 Join jackfusion [0] (i=42f95445@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-535db6d4650ef015) 01.45.20 Quit rotator () 01.45.30 # hi all 01.46.27 Quit root (Connection timed out) 01.46.58 Join aly76 [0] (n=ams@81-86-152-252.dsl.pipex.com) 01.47.57 Part jackfusion 01.58.07 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 01.59.54 # well sansa radio seems to be coming along, I am getting signal strength measurements 02.01.11 # sweet 02.01.45 # now i just need to figure out how to get the sound to to the headphones 02.02.28 Quit Buschel () 02.03.26 # zivan56: I guess you need to talk to someone with the datasheet - I assume you don't have it? 02.03.38 # linuxstb, yes thats true 02.03.56 # or just how to enable the aux in on the chip would be fine 02.04.42 # Sadly the datasheets aren't public, so you'll have to wait for someone who has them to help. 02.04.49 # (I don't have them) 02.04.53 # ah 02.05.08 # any idea who does? 02.05.28 Quit obo ("bye") 02.07.00 # dan_a (who hasn't been active for a while), barrywardell (not here at the moment), bagder (on holiday), austriancoder (not here very often)... 02.07.36 # Maybe try sending an email to the rockbox-dev mailing list - that's probably the best way to reach people. 02.07.50 # ah, ok, thanks 02.09.34 Quit H10_007quick ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030916]") 02.15.36 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 02.15.42 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 02.16.01 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 02.16.07 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 02.16.32 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 02.23.15 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 02.23.15 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.23.20 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 02.26.58 # well i hope some replies soon. I guess I will work on getting the driver into a single file (as opposed to the debug screen for now) 02.27.37 # Can someone help me out, what exactly has to be in the $path then, when it asks for amr-elf-gcc ? 02.28.16 # Viljar: Are you using cygwin? 02.28.29 # linuxstb: yes 02.29.18 # Viljar: It's described in Step 4 on the wiki page - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 02.29.34 Part aly76 02.29.46 Quit element_g ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 02.30.03 Quit benjamin ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 02.30.45 Join saratoga2 [0] (i=98039ac0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b43c3351981fed88) 02.31.04 # export PATH=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:$PATH isn't helping, echo $PATH shows nothing 02.31.39 # And.. what is nano and vi? 02.31.54 # anyone here reasonibly knowledgeable about makefiles? 02.32.05 # in linux, they are text editors 02.32.07 # nano and vi are text editors you run from the cygwin prompt. 02.32.27 # saratoga2: Reasonably.... 02.32.42 # the ffmpeg example code doesn't provide a makefile and I'm a little confused how i'm supposed to know what i need to compile 02.32.51 # they literally just provide an apiexample.c file 02.33.38 # Probably just gcc -o apiexample apiexample.c -lffmpeg 02.33.49 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.196.220) 02.34.03 # so I would need to install ffmpeg first, and then I could link it like that? 02.35.37 # How can i run nano or vi from cygwin then? 02.35.53 # in cygwin just type nano 02.35.59 # Viljar: Type "nano /etc/profile" at the prompt 02.36.01 # or nano filename,txt 02.36.28 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.36.39 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.196.220) 02.37.02 # saratoga2: Yes, you would need to install ffmpeg. You may also need to pass something like -I/usr/local/include/ffmpeg to gcc, depending on where the includes have been installed to. 02.38.07 # Viljar: But if "echo $PATH" is showing nothing in Cygwin, then something is very wrong with your installation. 02.38.13 # which screen does the radio (on the models that have one) use? 02.38.26 # Er, the radio screen :) 02.38.32 # linuxstb: regarding isntalling ffmpeg, is there someway to do a local install? 02.38.36 # heh, any idea what file it is it? 02.38.49 # linuxstb: i'll try reinstall.. 02.38.54 # apps/recorder/radio.c 02.39.08 # ah, i though that was player specific 02.39.25 # It was, about 3 years ago... The directory needs renaming, or the files moving. 02.39.34 # i see 02.40.47 # saratoga2: What do you mean by local? You can install it somewhere in $HOME/ 02.40.56 # how would I do that? 02.41.15 # right now I've just been doing make then make install, but I'd like to do this on a box i don't have root to 02.41.18 # Pass --prefix=/home/saratoga/mydir to configure 02.41.38 # i didn't even know you could give configure arguments 02.41.55 # so it'd be ./configure --prefix=/home/saratoga/mydir ? 02.42.28 # Yes 02.43.10 # --prefix is a generic parameter for autoconf configure scripts. ffmpeg doesn't use autoconf, but it still supports it. 02.43.56 # at this point, I've mostly given up trying to merge your old wmaplay code with the modern ffmpeg source 02.44.23 # i'm curious how you made tha tprogram in the first place? 02.45.20 # I didn't do the majority of the work - I started with the xmms-wma plugin which included a stripped-down version of ffmpeg. 02.46.12 # i've seen that 02.46.24 # I looked into updating it a couple of months ago, but gave up. That's why I suggested just forgetting about using ffmpeg directly, and starting from scratch. 02.46.28 # at this point though half the api commands it uses don't even exist anymore they've changed so much 02.47.15 # i.e. start by writing an ASF parser, with the ffmpeg code (and anything else you can find) as a reference. Then after that's working, try and incorporate the decoder itself. 02.47.26 # yeah thats basically where I am 02.47.38 # previously I tried to join the new deocder with the old api, but gave up 02.48.00 # its just annoying since i have no real example code other then their generic decoder example, which until now i couldn't even build 02.48.21 # Or the alternative is to spend a lot of effort trying to understand ffmpeg - which isn't a bad idea either, and it could be useful for extracting other codecs in the future. 02.49.05 # another question 02.49.09 # "make[1]: execvp: ./texi2pod.pl: Permission denied" 02.49.15 # do i need to care about that? 02.49.27 # sounds like documentation 02.49.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.49.42 # Yes, it does look like documentation. 02.50.05 # Maybe just "chmod +x docs/texi2pod.pl" 02.50.20 # Sorry, doc/texi2pod.pl 02.50.31 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 02.50.32 # yes stupid question on my part, i didn't see that file 02.50.54 # "find . -name texi2pod.pl" 02.57.31 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.00.12 # the radio stuff looks scary, I guess it needs some work to make it more generic (fmradio.c is really close to what is needed though) 03.00.43 # I don't know the code, but it already supports 2 or 3 different tuner chips. 03.00.47 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.00.59 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.196.220) 03.02.03 # just tracing though to it figure out what it calls, where the init part is, etc 03.03.32 # You've seen firmware/tuner_samsung.c and firmware/tuner_philips.c ? 03.05.32 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 03.05.32 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.05.37 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 03.05.53 # linuxstb, seems like i could just create a tuner_sanyo.c and go from there 03.06.31 # That would seem the way to go. But as I said I don't know the radio code at all. 03.06.53 # See also firmware/export/tuner.h 03.07.56 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 03.08.00 # the samsung seems be the most similar to the sanyo one 03.08.23 # however, i still don't see where it is powered on/initialized 03.10.04 # It could be firmware/drivers/power.c - search for CONFIG_TUNER 03.10.43 # doh, makes sense 03.10.45 # But I need to sleep. Goodnight and good luck. 03.10.51 # hold on! 03.10.52 # ok, thanks for the help 03.10.55 # one question 03.11.04 # OK, still here... 03.11.06 # the local build 03.11.19 # how do i tell gcc about it when i compile the example 03.12.17 # Add -I /home/whereever/include for the include path, and you may need -L/home/whereever/lib/ 03.12.40 # so gcc file.c -I /home/whereever/include for the include path, and you may need -L/home/whereever/lib/ 03.12.57 # sorry, cut the words out of that 03.13.09 # gcc file.c -I /home/whereever/include -L/home/whereever/lib/ 03.13.41 # And don't forget -lffmpeg (or maybe -lavcodec), depending what is in the /home/whereever/lib directory. 03.14.05 # what does the I and L options do then? 03.14.17 # I is include path, L is library path 03.15.38 # so -L/home/whereever/lib/ would point to the build directory for ffmpeg 03.15.52 # and -I would point to the source code directory 03.16.57 # No, under the directory you passed as --prefix, you should find a "lib" directory and a "include" directory - you point to those. 03.19.40 # it didn't actually put anything in that directory 03.19.54 # Did you run "make install" ? 03.19.55 # though it did dump an ffbin folder on my desktop 03.19.58 # yeah i did 03.20.22 # ffbin just has ffmpeg ffserver and ffplay in it 03.21.07 # That's odd. But I really do need to sleep now so I'll have to leave you to it (it's 2.20am...) 03.21.12 # ok 03.21.14 # thanks 03.21.27 # goodnight. 03.25.49 Part maffe 03.38.05 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.38.09 Join hax [0] (n=hax@web.atl.citynetwireless.net) 03.39.42 Quit Gursikh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.41.45 Join benjamin [0] (n=benjamin@74-135-178-234.dhcp.insightbb.com) 03.47.01 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.50.57 Quit benjamin ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 03.51.11 Join andrewg877 [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162088144.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 03.53.37 Quit andrewg867 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.59.24 Join Nairo [0] (n=marcobli@201.86.8.194.adsl.gvt.net.br) 04.05.46 Join foolsh [0] (n=benjamin@74-135-178-234.dhcp.insightbb.com) 04.07.21 Part Nairo 04.09.58 Quit foolsh (Remote closed the connection) 04.12.30 Join aliask [0] 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Thank you for flying freenode and have a great day! 05.25.10 Quit foolsh (Remote closed the connection) 05.33.09 # scorche: chrisetl always think freenode is a plane 05.36.21 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 05.36.43 # scorche: I know, I read global notices :P 05.40.23 Join webguest20 [0] (i=4a475751@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-60205e03dad9fedf) 05.40.26 # hey 05.40.29 # i need soem help 05.40.39 # i just had a data abort at 00040e00 05.40.39 # yeah its disconcerting... they're so helpful. i liked it better when i didn't know wtf was going on. 05.40.56 # dont know how to power down sicne menu button not working 05.40.59 # e200 05.43.14 # can someone please helpe me restart the sansa e200, it is not doing as it would normally 05.44.26 # hold power for 15 seconds 05.45.15 # webguest20: are you using an official Rockbox build or are you using a prebuilt build at ABi? I've seemed to notice a lot of these data abort errors the last few days... 05.47.02 # nope it is an offical build 05.47.05 # this is my first day using it 05.47.17 # by the way the 15 seconds worked thanks 05.47.28 # any way i can get the original firmware to be the default 05.47.50 # i see some talk about reverse bootloaders on lodist forums but lost in how to use it 05.48.04 # is it something like an mi4 file? 05.48.21 # ya 05.48.42 # it is just an .mi4 file 05.48.42 # http://lodist.com/showthread.php?t=1781 05.49.09 # while this isn't the 'official' way (that being to use sansapatcher) you should be able to just save it to the root of the sansa, reboot into the OF (hold <<|) and it'll install it 05.50.23 # ill try that thanks 05.51.06 # by the way i am impressed by rockbox, thanks, 05.51.20 # maybe it could be a little more visually appealing but it is nice 05.52.13 # you can use a few themes (http://rockbox-themes.org) which make it look better 05.52.57 # thanks 05.53.16 # ya the .mi4 didnt install 05.53.45 # let me try again 05.53.54 Join keba [0] (i=4a8ae067@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fd15a4c61cfbeaae) 05.54.07 # nope 05.55.10 Quit keba (Client Quit) 05.55.28 Join webguest77 [0] (i=4a8ae067@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cbaa87e45a2dc2a9) 05.56.19 Part webguest77 05.56.40 Join raybert [0] (n=listliza@209-6-255-219.c3-0.frm-ubr2.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com) 05.57.30 Join keba [0] (n=Administ@74-138-224-103.dhcp.insightbb.com) 05.58.21 Join ivan [0] (i=ivan@ool-182d0d60.dyn.optonline.net) 05.58.23 # Hi all 05.58.50 # just installed Rockbox on a Sansa e260 using my old Mac Mini.... pleasantly surprised that everything just worked... bought the Sansa explicitly for Rockbox hopes last fall... finally got around to installing it 06.00.38 # I've got tons of ogg content from my Karma to select from.... any recommendations other than "get a pretty WPS and enjoy it"? :-) 06.00.44 # Hmm and i'm trying to read How to install Rockbox on your iPod from Mac OS X 06.00.53 # but it says Please follow the installation instructions in the manual. 06.00.58 # yup 06.01.16 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch2.html 06.01.48 # those are the instructions... just be sure to download the firmware, fonts and bootloader .dmg and you should be all set 06.01.59 Part raybert 06.03.58 Join Slowking_Man [0] (i=slow@wikipedia/Slowking-Man) 06.04.01 # i'm trying to figure out what the line of text was to force the OF to not refresh the database 06.04.09 # hey Slowking_Man 06.09.08 # howdy 06.09.19 # I mean it's my first time trying to use rockbox 06.09.26 # ivan: me too 06.09.26 # but sucks nothing for 5.5GB iPod yet 06.09.45 # anyone know how to get the reverse bootloader working? 06.11.20 # webguest20: i'm guessing you use windows? 06.11.34 # ya, i can use linux if that would be easier 06.11.40 # i dual boot windows/linux 06.11.42 # oh ok 06.11.51 # I want something for the5.5 06.12.28 # webguest20: i'm on linux right now, so it probably would be....i'm gonna compile a custom sansapatcher using the mi4 in the link you gave above\ 06.12.47 # thanks 06.15.30 # http://nuclearscripting.com/other/sansa/sansapatcher.sh 06.15.41 # thanksa a lot 06.16.18 # by the way how hard is stuff like this, i know a slight bit of programming, would i be able to make custom patchers? 06.16.47 # I dunno about custom patches, but what I do in ABi (custom builds) aren't too hard 06.17.09 # with making custom builds, all you really need to know how to do is use the patch command and make 06.17.29 # hmm interesting, i will have to read up on it 06.17.51 # well thanks so much for the file and the help, i will reboot to linux and try it out 06.17.55 # thanks 06.18.39 Quit webguest20 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.24.30 # ivan: only a few minutes.... but this stuff isn't all too foreign to me.... pleasantly surprised that "it just works" 06.26.51 Quit saratoga2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.27.02 Join Kotjze [0] (n=kotjze@stjhnf0112w-142162200153.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 06.27.28 # oh ok 06.27.34 # heh 06.31.21 # I though Rockbox supported .aac? 06.32.31 # it does 06.32.55 # How do I get it to work? :s My .aac files don't show up. 06.33.06 # how did you aquire them? 06.33.18 # I converted them from mp3s 06.33.35 # and how did you load them ont he device? 06.33.48 # Copy and paste? :s 06.34.06 # and what is your view mode setting on? 06.34.31 # Music. I tried changing to show all files, but it doesn't play the .aac files when I select them. 06.34.46 # what did you encode them with? 06.34.59 # dBpoweramp 06.35.34 Quit pabs (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.35.40 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 06.35.58 # well, first off, why would you want to convert from mp3 to aac? 06.36.23 # Why does that matter? 06.36.39 # because it is likely very unnecessary 06.37.45 # not to mention it is transcoding 06.38.33 # I don't really mind. 06.40.03 # Hey guys quick question 06.40.23 # I did upto step 4 http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 06.40.26 # but 06.40.52 # but my ipod didn't restart 06.41.14 # I mean everything went fine according to the installation 06.41.42 # any idea? 06.42.32 Join webguest36 [0] (i=4a475751@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c95bd2c6ce2a60ed) 06.42.53 # Can you help me figure out why I can't play the files? 06.42.54 # ivan: hold select and menu at the same time 06.43.03 # Kotjze: i am testing it atm 06.43.07 # one sec let me try it 06.43.18 # Kotjze: but why would you want to transcode from mp3 to aac? 06.43.37 # chrisjs169|brb hey 06.43.59 # the script didnt work i get rockbox error -4 06.44.09 # It doesn't matter. 06.44.29 # if it doesnt matter, then why do it? 06.45.06 # ok scorche what I did is this 06.45.22 # after the install was done I exited the term 06.45.27 # crap neither firmware loads now, 06.45.29 # on my mac 06.45.31 # what should i do now? 06.45.37 # then I ejected the iPod 06.45.41 # and it started to reboot 06.45.50 # then since nothing happened 06.45.51 # scorche: Because I'm testing filetypes. I don't care if I'm losing quality by converting formats. 06.46.32 # Kotjze: well, are you encoding using FAAD? 06.46.33 # I switch the hold button and it says "rockbox boot loader" and other stuff then it says "No partition found" 06.46.54 # What is that? 06.46.54 # press menu + sel to reeboot and sel + |> for disk mode 06.47.17 # webguest36: what script? 06.47.37 # the sansapatcher? 06.47.44 # Kotjze: an AAC encoder....dbpoweramp has to use a seperate encoder that you tell it where it is at 06.47.49 # the one you gave me a moment ago 06.47.50 # ya 06.48.08 # what's it doing? 06.48.14 # scorche: The one I'm using is neroAacEnc.exe 06.48.30 # normal boot is rockbox error -4, left boot is rockbox error -i 06.49.32 # -4 means the rockbox.e200 file is corrupt....looking into -i 06.49.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.51.03 # AFAIK anyways 06.51.22 # dunno if this will work, but try also holding right (|>>) for verbose mod 06.51.23 # e 06.51.56 # didnt change anything 06.52.31 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 06.52.55 # is there a way to reset it? 06.52.58 # in that case, you'll have to go into revovery mode 06.52.59 # yeah 06.53.05 # recovery mode will work 06.53.06 # any idea scorche 06.53.17 # how i go into that? 06.53.34 # turn on hold, press power while holding REC 06.53.49 # ivan: did you format it? 06.53.56 # yes sir 06.54.01 # like brand new 06.54.03 # with iPOd 06.54.10 # err I mean iTunes 06.54.11 # ivan: how? 06.54.24 # I mean updated with itunes and then 06.54.27 # webguest36: should say something like Welcome to Recovery Mode [break] ****** [break] Please connect USB cable 06.54.53 # Kotjze: that encoder is supported, so you are likely doing something wrong...codecs are not quite my speciality, so you might want to wait for someone else to help 06.55.01 # ivan: you you formatted using itunes? 06.55.07 # i already had cable in so it said that and then said locked and unlocked a lot 06.55.17 # I made it disk mode only using iTunes and then I unchecked the open itunes when ipod is connected 06.55.37 # I unmounted using disk utils did what I was told in the man 06.55.37 # webguest36: yeah, mine seems to also say locked/unlocked a lot, you can just ignore that 06.55.42 # ivan: yes, but how did you format it?...with itunes? 06.55.46 # webguest36: are you using windows or linux right now 06.55.47 # yes sir 06.55.49 # with itunes 06.55.50 # k 06.55.54 # linux 06.55.56 # ivan: and you said you are on a mac? 06.56.02 # yes sir 06.56.02 # i can switch if that would be eaier 06.56.09 # either will work 06.56.25 # ivan: in that case, your ipod is formatted as HFS+ which is the wrong filesystem 06.56.33 # ? 06.56.37 # mount the sansa as you normally would (usually there's an icon on the desktop) 06.56.38 # oh 06.56.41 # what do I do then?> 06.56.48 # ivan: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 06.56.54 # webguest36: once mounted, there should be one file, VERSION.TXT 06.57.01 # well kubuntu automounted it as a 16mb drive with only that file in it 06.57.04 # yup 06.57.22 # scorche: but it's already been updated and restarted using iTunes 06.57.26 # like the new ver 06.57.42 # ok, grab the OF firmware from http://nuclearscripting.com/other/sansafw/PP5022.MI4 (I'm sure that works :P) 06.57.42 # oh ok never mind I read what it just said 06.57.50 # and save it onto the 16 mb drive 06.58.06 # k 06.58.36 # hey scorche any idea when we will see something for 5.5 gen iPod? 06.58.47 # ivan: the 80 gig? 06.58.56 # save/move it to the 16 mb drive if you haven't already 06.58.57 # yes 06.59.04 # done 06.59.06 # well, we dont give you timeframes 06.59.11 # s/you/out 06.59.14 # now, assuming you don't have any other files saved on the 16 mb drive (just the VERSION.TXT file and the PP5022.MI4 file) unmount the drive, turn off hold, and let it restart 06.59.16 # stupid question: on Sansa, anyway to enable playback while charging? Manual doesn't explicitly address this subject, leading me to believe that it should be possible. My experience is that playback halts when the player is connected via USB and displays the USB screen. 06.59.33 # oh ok but near future right I could expect something right? 06.59.46 # scorche: so even though it's mac formatted I have to do what it says on that page? 07.00.08 # ivan: the problem is that it is mac formatted 07.00.19 # damn 07.00.22 # I have no windows :/ 07.00.25 # or a win box 07.00.35 # still get 2 same errors 07.00.43 # ivan: read the second half of the page... 07.00.43 # need to unistall the bootloader? 07.00.56 # webguest36: that should have removed the bootloader.... 07.01.19 # what version of the OF are you using 07.01.22 # well i still get the rockbox bootloader with the same 2 errors 07.01.31 # the hebrew beta or the regular? 07.01.37 # regulart 07.01.39 # scorche: ok reading it now 07.02.02 # hmm....it looks like it didn't write the new bootloader 07.02.13 Part keba 07.02.44 # all I can really think of is trying recovery mode again 07.03.14 # should i try to use the script you gave me earileir with the u option 07.05.48 # nevermind the second time i tried the recovery mode it somehow worked 07.05.49 # thanks for the help 07.06.08 # scorche: kinda lost 07.06.33 # To recreate the partition table of a Windows formatted iPod you need to download the partition table file that exactly matches your iPod model. You should save this file in the same folder as files you downloaded in step 1 a). <- but there is no location to save it 07.06.35 # webguest36: no problem...sorry the reverse bl didn't work 07.06.54 # thats ok, i will look into it some and see if i can learn more about it 07.07.27 # ivan: it really doesnt matter where you save it as long as you are able to access that area 07.07.29 # i mess up my os with linux all the time, about time i started doing that with my mp3 player 07.07.40 # lol 07.08.00 # thanks for all the help. will see you later, bye 07.08.35 # scorche: ok this is what I did so far.. connected the iPod then I unmounted with disk util then I d/l the bin file 07.08.40 # then what should I do? 07.08.40 Quit webguest36 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.09.47 # then open the terminal, navigate to where you saved it, and type the command shown in step c 07.10.01 # ok 07.10.02 # sec 07.10.33 # ivan: what ipod do you have? 07.12.21 # I have the 20gb,60gb photo,60gb vid, 80gb vid and nano 8gb 07.12.30 # but installing it on the 60gb photo 07.12.54 # alright 07.13.41 # ok I don't know the # of the disk 07.13.44 # do I put disk1 07.13.45 # ? 07.14.11 # no 07.14.18 # disk2? 07.14.20 # you used ipodpatcher, yes? 07.14.25 # yes 07.14.32 # what number did that give your ipod? 07.14.40 # I don't think I did 07.14.41 # lol 07.14.48 # ok it's not funny :/ 07.15.01 # no one is laughing.. 07.15.11 # I know I was telling myself 07.15.18 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 07.15.20 # sorry just very new to this 07.15.33 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 07.15.44 # how do I find out? 07.16.12 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 07.17.54 # scorche: still there? 07.23.45 # mmm, gotta love engrish datasheet 07.24.34 # hmm 07.24.41 # this sucks 07.24.48 # kinda lost without scorche 07.26.42 # ivan: run ipodpatcher and it should tell you what the device number is before it installs 07.26.58 # ok 07.27.14 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.27.33 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 07.28.11 # it says /dev/disk2 07.29.13 # alright...then use that in the of section 07.29.38 # becareful though, as if you put the wrong number in, well...it is a bad thing 07.30.42 # [INFO] Ipod found - Photo/Color ("macpod") - /dev/disk2 07.30.42 # [INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/disk2 07.30.46 # very bad thing.. 07.30.53 # I did bad? 07.30.58 # no 07.31.01 # you are fine 07.31.03 # oh ok 07.31.03 # ool-182d0d60:~/Desktop ivan$ dd if=mbr-photo60gb.bin of=/dev/disk2 07.31.03 # 1+0 records in 07.31.03 DBUG Enqueued KICK ivan 07.31.03 # 1+0 records out 07.31.03 # 512 bytes transferred in 2.376177 secs (215 bytes/sec) 07.31.07 # that says it is disk2 07.31.13 # oh ok 07.31.17 # just wanted to make sure 07.31.18 # lol 07.31.22 # ivan: alright...now move on to d 07.31.39 # ok trying 07.31.51 # keep in mind this will erase everything on your ipod too 07.32.13 Quit zivan56 (Client Quit) 07.32.40 # oh ok 07.32.41 # I know 07.32.41 # :) 07.33.27 # ok it's being erased 07.33.54 # name is DISK2S2 07.33.59 # ok done 07.34.20 # the hell does it have 55.8GB and not the full 60 07.34.21 # lol 07.34.26 # I hate when that happens 07.34.52 # that is how drives are made.... 07.34.56 # yea 07.35.07 # ok now use the ipod thinggie again> 07.35.08 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 07.35.08 # we really dont need status updates...you knwo what to do now =) 07.35.24 # is it formatted as FAT32 now? 07.35.26 # yes 07.35.42 # then now you start off from the first step in the manual 07.35.48 # ok 07.35.51 # doing it now sir 07.38.25 # ok weird it didn't auto reboot 07.38.37 # after exit ipodpatcher and then quit the Terminal application. 07.39.05 # hmm on ipod it says 07.39.49 # Error! Can't load rock.box.ipod: file not found 07.44.25 # any idea? 07.44.51 # you didnt reload the firmware onto the device after you formatted it 07.44.55 Join webguest60 [0] (i=4b4ab9ef@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c6ae96647b6ac95) 07.45.06 # ? 07.45.44 # I ran the ipod thinggie 07.45.53 # ipodpatcher.dmg 07.46.06 Nick webguest60 is now known as newnick (i=4b4ab9ef@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c6ae96647b6ac95) 07.46.25 # you have to extract a build onto the root of the device 07.46.26 Nick newnick is now known as steveO (i=4b4ab9ef@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c6ae96647b6ac95) 07.46.35 # and how is that done? 07.46.55 # section 2.2.3 07.49.01 # ok now i'm really lost 07.49.43 # of the manual 07.49.44 Quit steveO (Client Quit) 07.49.50 # no no I mean 07.50.03 # I thought all I needed was the patch and the FAT32 thing 07.50.23 # i'm kinda lost at the ownload your chosen version of Rockbox from the links 07.50.27 # download* 07.50.42 # http://build.rockbox.org/ 07.51.09 # Is the iAudio X5 a good player? 07.51.48 # DarthShrine: stop asking...you have got enough responses... 07.51.58 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.52.03 # scorche, I have..? I have a bad memory. 07.52.03 # :S 07.52.20 # you have been asking about it for around a week now.. 07.52.38 # A week? I only knew about it yesterday... Anyway, sorry. 07.53.26 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) 07.56.09 Quit gursikh ("Leaving") 07.56.12 # ok I extract everything to the iPod first? 07.57.44 # gah it's not working 08.03.01 # never mind I got it in 08.03.23 # omg 08.03.25 # it worked yay 08.05.40 Quit amigan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.07.49 # scorche: THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH 08.08.17 # the caps arent needed =P 08.08.23 # sorry 08.08.28 # just so excited 08.08.48 # now I have to figure out how to put the fonts and themes in there 08.08.50 # and music 08.09.04 Part toffe82 08.10.10 # the manual helps =) 08.10.19 # yeap 08.10.22 # reading it now 08.11.20 Join amigan [0] (n=dcp1990@unaffiliated/amigan) 08.17.54 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 08.19.37 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 08.19.40 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp139-221.adsl.forthnet.gr) 08.21.10 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 08.24.17 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-119-160-247.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.24.21 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 08.29.28 # ok scorche kinda lost again 08.36.42 # ivan: with? 08.37.26 Quit amigan ("leaving") 08.37.27 # I dl'ed a theme 08.37.35 # but I can't seem to get it to work 08.37.47 # nor do I get how to load the mp3s yet :/ 08.45.55 Join snafoo [0] (i=snafoo@unaffiliated/snafoo) 08.46.16 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-119-160-247.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.49.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.51.42 Join DarthShr1ne [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 08.52.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B152B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.53.10 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 08.53.22 Quit ivan ("Leaving") 08.54.50 Quit DraX ("leaving") 09.02.15 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.03.33 # Huh, finally got cygwin to compile.. 09.08.44 Quit DarthShrine (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.19 Nick DarthShr1ne is now known as DarthShrine (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 09.10.08 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.15.36 Part snafoo 09.15.38 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 09.17.50 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 09.21.24 # How can i exit nano in cygwin? :s 09.22.35 # Viljar, Err, ctrl-x? 09.23.28 # ^ means ctrl? ;s 09.23.37 # yep 09.23.40 # Okay 09.28.17 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 09.33.00 # Hmm, editinh path it /etc/profile doesn't seem to work, echo $path results nothing. 09.33.34 # Entering manually export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/sh/bin:/opt/m68k/bin:/opt/arm/bin:$PATH worked well.. 09.33.53 Part maffe 09.34.06 # Viljar, I think you have to `source /etc/profile` if you do that. 09.35.01 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 09.36.42 # If i do what? 09.37.16 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 09.40.09 # Viljar: $path is not the same as $PATH 09.40.55 # Ah, that too. 09.41.05 # Okay, that was the thing :D 09.41.09 # Thanks. 09.46.14 Join david1 [0] (n=david52@84.72.254.113) 09.55.21 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 09.55.24 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp138-249.adsl.forthnet.gr) 09.59.32 # Which usblogo is used on iPod nano? 176x48x16 ? 10.02.46 # i'd guess so... 10.05.09 # i think 10.06.55 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 10.06.55 # * JdGordon _finally_ gets a chance to play with the sd card patch 10.07.55 Quit hannesd (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.11.29 Part david1 10.12.31 # jdgordon: tried to have a "2-line" list initially select the second entry. It was scrolled half a selection down (though no scrolling was necessary)... 10.14.21 # ? 10.15.38 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 10.15.54 # Only half of the first entry was visible. 10.16.12 # In this case, it didn't look very good, as the line was empty... 10.16.36 # can you put up a screenshot? im not 100% sure what your talking about ;;; 10.19.52 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 10.20.46 # DCC ok? 10.21.19 # might be, not sure if port forwarding will work 10.21.27 Part maffe 10.21.30 # Ok, I'll give it a try then... 10.28.18 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 10.29.01 Join waf3r [0] (i=Waf3r@client-86-27-101-23.manc.adsl.virgin.net) 10.29.28 # Hello all, does anyone know why I cant register for the forum? 10.30.10 # there could be any number of reasons.... 10.30.21 # telling us the error you are getting would be helpful 10.31.45 # "Flyspray cannot provide the page you requested. Perhaps you requested a task that does not exist, or you do not have permission to view the page you wanted. 10.31.45 # You may have tried to use a naughty URL to interact with the database backend using SQL injection. If this is true, go to the corner and think about your actions. When you return, please do not do it again! 10.32.54 # waf3r: you mention the forum, and yet you give us an error from flyspray? 10.33.09 # * scorche has always loved that error message 10.33.14 # indeed, just following the link I was given :) 10.33.17 # :) 10.33.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/register 10.33.52 # yes...that is flyspray..not the forums 10.34.28 # I can see where going to get far today... 10.35.17 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.35.41 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7504.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.35.52 # I wish to report bugs, which as I understand it was through the tracker page is it not? 10.36.05 # yes 10.36.10 Join david1 [0] (n=david52@84.72.254.113) 10.36.24 # but you opened up by saying that you cant register for the forum... 10.36.46 # so did you mean flyspray (tracker) instead of forum? 10.36.55 # indeed I did :) 10.38.03 # well, i get to that page just fine...is it after you hit "send code" that you get the error? 10.38.13 # yes 10.40.06 # that works fine for me as well 10.42.05 # ah.. it must be the space in my username that did it, ok thanks 10.46.20 Join bluebrother [0] (i=zncMKYDs@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 10.49.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.53.13 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966D65.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.55.31 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54a3e844.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.01.15 Part david1 11.04.26 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.11.28 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.45) 11.20.29 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 11.20.37 Part kaaloo 11.32.57 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E844.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.40.24 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.42.09 Quit waf3r () 11.45.55 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484b76b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.47.05 Join david1 [0] (n=david52@84.72.254.113) 11.52.42 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host142-202-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.55.32 Quit Jon-Kha ("leaving") 11.55.49 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 12.00.17 Part maffe 12.00.31 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 12.03.37 Quit n1s (Remote closed the connection) 12.06.54 Join pixie [0] (i=nologin@drikker.pils.no) 12.06.55 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.07.04 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.07.11 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.07.40 # Uh, my iPod bugs when it tries to charge. It can boot normally without the cable, but then when you put the cable in, it reboots, shows an image of a battery with a triangle with an '!', and just won't charge 12.08.40 # Now it has an image of a battery with a lightning strike, but I'm not sure if its actually charging.. 12.10.16 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.20.18 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.20.30 # you can put it into emergency disk mode, in that mode it will charge 12.20.46 # I juts left it for a few minutes and it rebooted itself three times and fixed itself 12.21.14 # Kotjze: I saw your question about .aac files in the logs - Rockbox doesn't support raw AAC files, only AAC in an MPEG-4 container (i.e. .m4a or .mp4). 12.22.06 Quit DarthShrine (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.23.29 Join pixelma [0] (i=54bd788b@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.27.54 Part david1 12.28.14 Join david1 [0] (n=david52@84.72.254.113) 12.29.10 Join nls [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 12.31.25 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 12.34.31 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.44.58 Part david1 12.47.22 Join Siltaar [0] (n=Siltaar@reverse-52.fdn.fr) 12.49.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.52.06 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 12.52.30 Quit pill (Nick collision from services.) 12.52.54 Join _pill [0] (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) 13.02.13 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 13.06.49 # austriancoder: Looking at Ivan's email, he's in a GMT-8 timezone, so is very likely sleeping at the moment... 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I tried 1 first, and that wasn't nice either. :) 14.27.16 # Btw, bookmark patch updated. 14.27.41 # 3 doesnt select the 2nd line of the 2nd item? 14.30.14 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.30.48 # Yes, but that'd be wrong. IIRC, it would then also select first line of third item. 14.31.09 # it would? oh nuts :p 14.31.37 # The problem I saw was that the list scrolled half an item down when no scrolling was needed. 14.31.38 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.32.15 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 14.32.55 # I think I see why now; the remote needed it... 14.35.05 # Lear: does the updated patch have the extra item? 14.36.17 Join david1 [0] (n=david52@84.72.254.113) 14.43.02 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.44.38 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.44.46 # Lear: what's about code size impact atm? green or red? :) 14.45.12 # * JdGordon would be ok if that patch made red 14.45.46 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.46.05 # indeed, but maybe that make things better and reduce a bit 14.46.33 # removed some unused code... 14.46.38 # No idea, as of yet... :) 14.46.55 # Lear: got a patch with the dud first optio so I can test my fix? 14.47.19 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3113.gwdg.de) 14.47.55 # Not with a call to _select_index, no, and in the current code you need to do a bit more than just add that line... 14.48.14 # I figured... 14.49.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.51.01 # hmm my "fix" doesnt work.... 14.51.16 # what you could do is check if the 2nd line is the first line bing displayed 14.54.35 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.54.42 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54966D65.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.54.42 Nick lee-qid_ is now known as lee-qid (n=liqid@p54966D65.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.56.55 # l 14.56.57 # amiconn: are the HAVE_MMC #ifdefs in apps/talk.c wrong? shouldnt they be target based? (or similar) 14.57.14 # They are correct 14.57.25 # Or rather, the best possible atm 14.58.51 # well, is that code just for ondio? 14.59.10 # Yes, atm 14.59.16 # or is it actually for targets with external memory? 14.59.23 # storgae 14.59.36 # No, it is for targets with slow disk reading but no spinups 14.59.50 # Btw, code is reduced by ~400 bytes here (different compiler version). 15.00.21 # amiconn: and low ram also? 15.00.29 # nope 15.00.37 # toni has reused HAVE_MMC for the e200 which is probalby a bad thing 15.00.44 # Or rather, yes 15.00.54 # Lear: better code, nicer one and reducing at same time, that's nice :) 15.00.59 # slow disk, no spinup and low ram... i.e ondio... 15.01.04 # The deal is that loading an entire voice file on Ondio takes about 6 seconds 15.01.07 # Lear: nice one :) 15.01.33 Part Llorean 15.01.34 # So if the voice file needs to be (re)loaded, e.g. when using the menu after playback ended, the delay would be nasty 15.01.56 # I see 15.02.13 # The #ifdef HAVE_MMC code in talk.c only loads the header immediately, and then loads the clips when they are needed the first time 15.02.32 # The structure in memory is still the same as if the clips would be loaded at once 15.02.46 # would it be safe to assume that all external storage cards would have hotswapping? 15.03.08 # .i.e. the clips are loaded to the same place im memory where they would be loaded when reading the entire voice file at once 15.03.19 # This way voice is practically instant on Ondio 15.05.20 # ok, HAVE_MMC seems to be the wrong define fo external cards... 15.05.39 # the ondio has internal storage also doesnt it? 15.05.54 # sure 15.05.56 # 128mo 15.06.49 # * JdGordon goes to fix the sdcard patch to do not use the HAVE_MMC define 15.07.02 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.10.37 # whats a better name for external cards? 15.19.50 # HAVE_SWAPPABLE_MEMORY? 15.20.28 # HAVE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE is what im using... but yours may be better 15.21.00 Part david1 15.21.02 # amiconn: pixelma, would you be able t test this patch asuming it works on my sansa correctly shortly? 15.21.24 Join nightstalker [0] (n=Alex@p5494DFBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.21.33 Join mutantpineapple [0] (n=dan@87.112.81.231.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net) 15.21.54 # JdGordon: There's HAVE_HOTSWAP iirc 15.21.57 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.22.23 # amiconn: well Ive just &&'ed HOTSWAP and MULTIVOLUME as im not sure if they are always both set 15.22.34 # would hotswap be enough though? 15.22.42 # No they aren't 15.22.49 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.22.50 # HOTSWAP requires MULTIVOLUME 15.22.59 # ok, then Ill just use hotswap 15.23.07 # But MULTIVOLUME can be used alone, e.g. if you want to use 2 partitions 15.23.26 # (rare usage case, but I know this is used) 15.23.27 Part Viljar 15.23.46 Join Viljar [0] (n=Gspier@pc63.host3.trt.starman.ee) 15.24.33 # JdGordon: maybe (can't guarantee as I'm not at my usual box and have to take a different route...) 15.26.10 # patch seems to work here.. I wonder if any of the crashes toni had was becasuse he misused the HAVE_MMC define 15.26.22 # I can do a compile for you if you want pixelma 15.28.39 # amiconn: pixelma: http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/hotswap.patch function names need renaming, but the rest is good 15.28.53 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.28.56 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.29.13 # that has the sd patch as well, I dont tihk it will interfere with ondio builds 15.30.31 # that would be easier... what is there to test? (If it could take bit longer, it would be kind if you could uncomment the "HAVE_BACKLIGHT" in the confog-ondiofm for me :) 15.30.42 # *config 15.30.44 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 15.31.43 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 15.32.37 # pixelma: sp or fm? the test is just if disc access (and ext mmc) is broken at all 15.32.53 # ... If it is, you still can access usb right? 15.35.44 # FM - well I would think so but maybe better to leave it to the expert 15.38.13 # well, it compiles without warnings, and ata_mmc.c is compiled, so it shhuoldnt be bad 15.39.06 # Just to confirm, data aborts (sansa) are usually caused by an old bootloader, correct? 15.39.22 # not always, but could be 15.39.33 # what could be other reasons? 15.39.36 # if your using a really old one... as in before dual core 15.39.46 # An old bootloader will always cause data aborts, but not vice-versa... 15.40.14 # chrisjs169|brb: Bugs. 15.41.17 # linuxstb: what do you mean by vice-versa? As in a new bootloader can still sometimes cause data aborts? 15.41.24 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@ppp-68-251-44-79.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 15.41.36 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.41.39 # JdGordon: ok... I'll test but will do a break in a few 15.42.23 # * moos doesn' have his ondio around for test, sorry JdGordon :( 15.42.41 # chrisjs169|brb: Old bootloaders are not the only cause of data aborts. 15.43.11 # linuxstb: Ok, so what could be other possibilities for data aborts? 15.43.52 # * linuxstb has a feeling of deja-vu 15.44.19 # shit... i dropped my mSD card :'( its too bloody small 15.44.24 Quit Jon-Kha ("leaving") 15.44.39 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 15.47.06 # JdGordon: for a complete test (what happens when connecting USB first and then powering on) I'd need the rockbox.ucl too 15.47.53 # as long as the mmc still works the whole thing shold work 15.48.00 # so you dont need to go al out testing... 15.48.31 # how does a small black piece of plastic just disappear? 15.50.23 Join rp- [0] (n=rp@193.154.222.107) 15.51.13 # hey all 15.51.19 Nick andrewg877 is now known as andrewg867 (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162088144.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 15.51.25 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 15.53.01 # austriancoder: I had modified the core as3514 a while back to enable the mic and line ins 15.53.24 # and its great to see someone actually finish that driver :) I really don't have much time lately 15.55.26 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.56.07 # Soap_: Any luck finding another test track? 15.58.21 # JdGordon: seems to work correctly... I just wonder why there is no rev number in your compile ;) 15.58.42 # but I'm off now for a while - bbl 15.58.52 # pixelma: great :) because I have blank docs/VERSION to speed up he build 15.59.37 Part pixelma 16.02.08 Join senab [0] (i=senab@82-35-229-48.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.02.59 # i'm looking at getting a new flash memory based player 16.03.52 # looking at the ports currently available (h10, nano, sansa) which has the longest battery life when using rockbox? 16.04.05 # h10 isnt flash 16.04.19 # sansa and nano have about the same batt life atm 16.05.13 # i read somewhere that the dac isn't working great on the sansa 16.05.23 # yep 16.05.29 # but there is a patch which makes it much better 16.05.39 # cant remember why its not being cmmited 16.05.46 # do you know if it sounds that bad? 16.06.23 # my ears are shot so i dont know what everyone is saying about tinny sound.. but the channel swapping is noticable every so often 16.07.07 # hmmm, i dont really want a nano as you can't get a new 1g nano 16.08.24 # nano sounds decent, at least 16.08.50 # true 16.09.02 # i could get one cheap too 16.09.09 # Ive tplayyed with both and find the sansa easier to use 16.09.15 # probably is, yes 16.09.22 # the nanaos small screen and the ipod wheel in general sucks 16.09.45 # i'm used to the wheel with the 5g though 16.09.57 # the wheel is ok, but rockbox' handling of it is not :/ 16.10.55 # * preglow looks forward to slasheri's Real COP Support Patch (tm= 16.11.20 Join gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 16.11.36 # "slasheri's Real COP Patch" ?? 16.11.53 # isn't the COP already being used? 16.12.06 # Not by core Rockbox, only mpegplayer. 16.12.09 Part gursikh ("Leaving") 16.12.32 # i thought the audio core was moved onto it? 16.12.40 # not yet 16.13.01 # It is, but I think the concensus is that the codec thread moves back to the main CPU immediately... 16.13.18 # Hence the lack of any performance increase. 16.13.22 # yeah 16.13.38 # and i wouldn't know, but i trust slasheri implicitely when he says clever stuff like that :> 16.13.41 # ahhh ok 16.14.30 # i think i might find a 2nd hand nano somewhere 16.15.53 # wooo, they're still pretty expensive 16.16.03 # i can pick up a 2g version cheaper 16.16.03 # senab: There are two plus points for the Sansa - FM radio and a SD slot for expandability 16.16.16 # And I'm sure any audio issues will be resolved. 16.17.05 # is the external memory card being worked on? 16.17.12 # They also seem relatively cheap - $160 US for an 8GB model. What do old Nanos sell for? 16.17.39 # about £90 for a 4gb (around $175) 16.17.42 # senab: Yes, there's a working patch on the patch tracker. 16.17.59 # linuxstb: far from all sansas have radio 16.18.13 # i'm not too bothered about radio anyway 16.18.15 # preglow: Good point - you need to make sure you import a US model. 16.18.17 Quit spiorf_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.18.21 # senab: i think i'd go sansa in a hearbeat if i got to choose now 16.18.26 # But some UK sellers on ebay seem to be selling FM versions. 16.18.52 # there's nothing so cool about the nano that i'd rather have it than the sansa 16.18.58 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 16.19.09 # one question is it possible to play oggs on the sansa? 16.19.17 # Yes 16.19.26 # i prefer the look of the sansa anyway 16.19.46 # its slightly fatter than the nano though 16.19.55 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.19.55 # i like the horizontal screen too 16.20.11 # its so i can use it at the gym, etc 16.20.20 # preglow: Did you notice test_codec now has wav-writing? 16.21.00 # preglow: It would be useful if you could have a quick look at some point to see if it's OK. I tested all the lossless codecs and they're giving md5-perfect results, but I'm not sure about the lossy codecs. 16.21.03 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 16.21.06 Join Mo0oSaH [0] (i=Mo0oSaH@w-mob400-128-62-214-111.public.utexas.edu) 16.21.10 # if i use rockbox, will ipod work the same way on amarok? 16.21.39 # also, if I want to go back to the vanilla ipod... is possible? 16.21.58 # Mo0oSaH: Rockbox doesn't read the itunes database - you either browse the files from the file browser, or use Rockbox's own database which it creates from the tags in your files. 16.22.20 # amarok can build a database from directory anyway.... i think 16.22.32 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.22.36 # does rockbox work on the e250? 16.22.37 # And yes, you can dual-boot between the Apple firmware and Rockbox. 16.22.39 # linuxstb: i was planning on checking it out later 16.22.49 # senab: yep 16.22.55 # linuxstb: thanks 16.22.59 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 16.23.29 # ohh i get the model numbering now 16.23.45 # i thought the 250, 260,etc were new models 16.23.58 # * senab slaps forehead 16.26.57 # is the radio only the US models then? 16.27.07 # linuxstb: what do you want to do with the bmptar patch ? 16.27.44 # hm, if i try to add an ogg file to the playlist, it just say loading 16.27.49 # and have you by any chance tweaked the wpsbuild.pl script to make it include the pb and backdrop bitmaps in the tar and not create the directory ? 16.28.01 # schula: are you using the original firmware? 16.28.03 # senab: no, i have one with an fm tuner 16.28.12 # senab: i use rockbox :) 16.28.27 # it sound the oggs then ;) 16.28.42 # Nico_P: No, I haven't touched the wpsbuild.pl script since my last patch. I'm not sure what to do with it - maybe try and get other people to test it and see if it gives them any speedups. 16.29.32 # obo: yay for your audio_set_track_changed_event() patch :-) 16.29.41 # do we want to included it if it doesn't improve speed ? 16.29.45 # shula: whats the radio reception like on the sansa? good enough to record from? 16.29.48 # include* 16.29.53 # desowin: :) does it work okay for you then? 16.30.02 # testing 16.30.21 # * obo crosses fingers 16.30.34 # senab: didnt use it :) 16.31.18 # schula: Do you get the same problem with all your ogg files? 16.31.43 # shula: how old is the ogg also? 16.31.45 Quit mutantpineapple ("leaving") 16.32.00 # linuxstb: i got it, yeah. i used not the official build, and now it works 16.32.35 # sorry 16.34.07 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 16.34.29 # * senab hates Java... just needed to say that lol 16.34.59 # hehe 16.35.03 # * desowin joins senab 16.38.59 # i've got an exam in it tomorrow :-| 16.39.04 # linuxstb: do we want to include the patch if it doesn't improve speed ? 16.39.11 # at least we start C next year 16.39.31 # senab, CS? 16.40.24 # Nico_P: isn't the speed a plus only? 16.40.40 # juxtap: yep. I can code in Java all day long, its just stuff like design and background to OOP that kills me 16.40.55 # sends me to sleep lol 16.41.38 # moos: yes, I think having the bitmaps in a tar is a nicer way to distribute WPSs, but maybe everyone doesn't agree on that 16.41.51 # yeah i hear you 16.42.30 # i mean does any programmer use "design patterns"? 16.42.42 # Nico_P: maybe try to put a mail in the list for have differents opinions ??? 16.42.59 # good idea 16.43.04 # senab: yes 16.43.41 # Nico_P: The downside is that it complicates the WPS loading code. 16.44.13 Join amigan [0] (i=dcp1990@unaffiliated/amigan) 16.44.26 # ... and customizing 16.44.28 Quit obo ("bye") 16.44.38 # a few days ago I was trying to find a way to make the loading reuse as much code as possible between the two parts but it wasn't easy 16.44.56 # but it's that mich code anyway 16.45.11 # schula: true actually 16.45.22 # senab: plenty of programmers use design patterns 16.45.33 # some places use it extensively 16.45.40 # Nico_P: Something else that's been discussed in the past is supporting partial bitmaps - i.e. letting WPS authors put multiple images in the same bmp file. 16.46.00 # linuxstb: I thought that idea was rejected completly 16.46.02 # In the same way as the icon strips work for example. 16.46.08 # yes I remember... how does a tar compare to a multimple bitmap ? 16.46.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp141-69.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.46.24 # IMO tars are mich simpler for WPS creators 16.46.32 # senab: this improve much things, its easyer to read, and if you use e.g. factorys you just can change a module 16.46.45 # Nico_P: not creators on windows... 16.46.55 # how do you make a tar in windows? with winrar? 16.47.03 # JdGordon: I think it was rejected if the WPS designer has to put all bitmaps in a single .bmp. But I think it's a useful feature on its own. 16.47.10 # schula: true, i hold my hands up :D 16.47.23 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.47.34 # JdGordon: hm, why? rar, tar 16.47.44 # JdGordon: i.e. not put a whole WPS in one bitmap, but things like the codec icons would naturally fit into a strip. 16.48.05 # JdGordon: 7Zip 16.48.10 # (and would make life easier for wps designers IMO) 16.48.21 # indeed 16.48.23 # hmm indeed that would be nice 16.48.25 # ah, yeah that sounds ok 16.48.31 # things which belong together should be grouped in a file 16.48.43 # linuxstb: that would mean pixel perfect alignment though 16.48.44 # like battery icons, codec icons 16.48.57 # senab: if you're an artist, you're used to aligning by pixels 16.49.11 # shoulnd't be news 16.49.30 # i'm just saying it would be harder for people not used it 16.49.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.50.02 # From what other people have said, a lot of skinning systems support or even require multiple images in the same image file. 16.50.57 # how could it work ? specifiy an index in the bitmap or force grouping of pictures that go together ? 16.51.09 # I haven't thought that far... 16.51.21 # the order/alignment could be hardcoded 16.51.40 # all images that belong in a category should be of equal size anyway 16.51.45 # it would logically be ordered correct anyway 16.52.04 # Maybe extend the %x command to take x,y,width,height parameters. 16.52.25 # just height is needed.. width can be taken from the bmp dimensions 16.52.28 # if you're making a file with battery level icons, they'd be ordered from low level to high, codecs bitmaps would be in a preset order, etc 16.52.47 # I think that I prefer that tar idea much better 16.52.54 # i'd like them to be combined 16.53.03 # XavierGr: It's not an either/or - partial bitmaps are unrelated to tar. 16.53.11 # ah okay then 16.53.14 # both can be good 16.53.37 # btw wasn't there a patch that enabled tar support on wps? 16.53.46 # how does the tar work? are files "decompressed" on the fly? 16.53.54 # having conditional pics grouped could allow using more pictures and special tags that use the pictures without any coding required from the WPS creators 16.54.11 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AD5A7.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.54.12 # XavierGr: there was and I updated it recently 16.54.14 # XavierGr: Yes, I wrote one a while ago, and Nico_P is working on updating/improving it. 16.54.30 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6571 16.54.44 # senab: tar files are uncompressed. It's simply [512-byte header][file 1 padded to a multiple of 512 bytes][512-byte header][file 2...] etc 16.55.02 # linuxstb: what was the main reason for not commiting it? 16.55.38 # didn't it require a specific order? 16.55.38 # linuxstb: what i mean is, is the whole tar uncompressed upon opening of the tar? or are individual files retrieved when needed? 16.55.39 # My original version required the .bmp files in a certain order in the .tar, which wasn't nice. We're discussing Nico_P's version now (which doesn't have that limitation). 16.56.13 # senab: images are just read from the .tar in the same way as from a .bmp 16.56.18 # senab: they are read in order, all at once 16.56.28 # well it would be good to have that feature, then rockbox could proceed and choose a default wps at last. 16.57.14 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.57.24 # why do we need that patch to choose a standard wps? 16.57.27 # XavierGr: I've been trying to persuade people to make iCatcher (the best IMO of the currently shipped themes) but there were strong objections to it... 16.57.50 # i'd support icatcher too, after a few mods 16.57.51 # iCatcher is horrible for large screens 16.57.52 # I'd love iCatcher as default 16.57.55 # even as it is, it's still the best 16.57.59 # senab: I don't agree 16.58.02 # linuxstb: yeah I completely aggre 16.58.11 # senab: I use iCatcher on my gigabeat and like it... 16.58.17 # same here 16.58.21 # last time i tried icatcher on my 5g it was horrible 16.58.26 # maybe nimbus 19 is a bit big though 16.58.27 # yeah it looks ok to me in gigabeat too 16.58.33 # * JdGordon hates icatcher, but doesnt care seen as the first thing after an accidental reset is load my favorite theme 16.58.58 # I think it's definitly much better than the default WPS for a newbie 16.59.12 # also Genre9mp3 was very confused because obviously he couldn't keep everyone happy 16.59.16 # and that alone should be enough to make it the current default until something better appears 16.59.35 # he kept changing things only to find that other people disliked the new change that others proposed 16.59.44 # dionoea: bouh ! 17.00.00 # the only thing i dislike about icatcher, is it's too busy 17.00.02 # XavierGr: He should have just gone with what he wanted - you can't design a WPS by committee... 17.00.06 # too much info 17.00.20 # preglow: You're not the only one to say that, but I would complain it's lacking info... 17.00.26 # also I think it is the only WPS around that it is true multi platform as far as I remember 17.00.50 # multi target I mean 17.01.06 # does rockboxed supports remote screens? 17.01.14 # linuxstb: if it is to be default, it should be as little confusing as possible, and even i didn't understand what a couple of the figures meant 17.01.40 # like a number that just popped up from time to time and represented the accurate battery level, despite being far from the actual indicator 17.01.47 # XavierGr: Yes, but I don't think we have to use the same theme everywhere. e.g. we may not want to use icatcher on the Archos devices, but just keep the existing default there. 17.02.01 # i was thinking of making a new wps once my exams are over, maybe i'll make it multi platform 17.02.06 # preglow: OK, I agree with that. But I'm happy to ignore things I don't understand :) 17.02.23 # preglow: that was fixed 17.02.37 # a little thunder icon was added to show the battery 17.03.19 # I love having both the icon and the precise value for battery and volume 17.03.26 # me too 17.03.46 # thats a must for me 17.04.09 # my personal favourite wps at the mo is 'Escape Pod AA' 17.04.52 # I still remember Genre9mp3 describing to me how difficult was to make a wps multi-target and still keep the main layout without worsing the looks of it 17.05.01 # XavierGr: i still think that's info that should be left out instead of using space 17.05.08 # senab: I like EscapePodGB a lot 17.05.10 # there already is a battery indicator 17.05.24 # there's more than enough info to put in the wps, so we don't need to duplicate stuff 17.05.25 # preglow: ok, but many people will bitch about it (myself e.g) 17.05.28 Join slarti [0] (i=tom@gentoo/developer/slarti) 17.05.43 # Nico_p: EscapePodGB 17.05.46 # *? 17.05.54 # i don't really think the wps has to be the same for all targets 17.05.56 # EscapePod for gigabeat 17.06.01 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.45) 17.06.04 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 17.06.42 # some of the gigabeat wps' are really nice 17.07.24 # Kotjze: I saw your question about .aac files in the logs - Rockbox doesn't support raw AAC files, only AAC in an MPEG-4 container (i.e. .m4a or .mp4). // I had tried .m4a and they didn't show up either :s 17.07.25 # preglow: well for me it should be ideal 17.07.38 # yeah, but it sounds kind of impossible 17.07.47 # I like Pixel & Sta 17.08.00 # Kotjze: I assume they were proper m4a files, and you didn't just rename .aac to .m4a? 17.08.41 # preglow: still, iCatcher is the case that materializes it :P 17.08.53 # yeah, it does nicely at it 17.09.15 Part maffe 17.09.33 # IMHO it is a shame to not utilize it as default until something better is found 17.10.16 # i kind of agree, but we should also avoid changing the default too often 17.10.27 # so if we go for icatcher now, we should plan on keeping it the default for some time 17.10.35 # I agree 17.10.47 # but i do think icatcher is the best we have, yes 17.11.04 # I just got an ipod and installed rockbox right away... how do you turn rockbox on after you shut it down 17.11.05 # thing is that for a lot of time we don't have another candidate except icatcher or rockboxed 17.11.21 # preglow: Can you test how long icatcher takes to load on your DAP(s)? amiconn was reporting some very slow times, but it loads in less than a second for me... 17.11.41 # (if the disk is spinning on HD targets) 17.11.52 # linuxstb: No, they weren't just renamed. :p 17.12.03 # linuxstb: it's fast for me 17.12.16 # linuxstb: even if that's the case, I think that tar wps will solve that problem completely 17.13.11 # my main concern is: what happens on a new installation that doesn't have fonts included? 17.13.28 # then the default theme won't work at all 17.13.34 # linuxstb: in a second and lower on both nano and h120 17.13.44 # whats the diff between unicatcher & iCatcher? 17.13.47 # anyone know how to turn on rockbox? 17.14.04 # :( 17.14.06 # so when the default theme is picked I think that the utilized font should be included on the build 17.14.17 # senab: UniCatcher uses the unifont 17.14.18 # XavierGr: the font for the default theme would need to be included 17.14.28 # yeah 17.14.53 # Just found the Segoe UI font thats been converted, very nice 17.15.23 # andrewg867: ping 17.15.32 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 17.16.13 # Kotjze: The only other issue is that Rockbox doesn't support "non-streaming" m4a files - files where the metadata comes after the audio data. But I'm not sure of the details - Lear is the person to ask. 17.16.41 # Kotjze: Or you could try searching the forums - I'm sure Lear has posted about the issue. 17.17.15 Quit desowin ("use linux") 17.17.42 # Mo0oSaH: Press SELECT (the middle button) or MENU to turn an ipod on. Make sure the hold switch is off. If that doesn't work, press and hold MENU+SELECT together for a few seconds. 17.17.42 # kotjze: try extracting the stream from the mp4, then muxing it again 17.18.14 # linuxstb: thanks for the tip 17.18.15 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 17.18.46 # kotjze: if you're using windows, use mp4box (if you need a GUI get YAMB) 17.20.12 # preglow: OK, so I don't think loading time is bad enough to stop us changing the default. 17.21.27 # kotjze: if you're using windows, use mp4box (if you need a GUI get YAMB) // I will try that when I get a chance, thanks :) 17.21.29 Quit Mo0oSaH () 17.21.50 # linuxstb: depends how badly it sucks on archoses, i guess 17.22.04 # then again, i don't feel too bad about letting those continue using the current default 17.22.46 # just tried iCatcher again.... haven't changed my mind lol. The images seems stretched to me... 17.22.47 # hmm. How about shipping some recommended settings configurations? 17.23.00 # that could include the theme as well 17.23.08 # indeed 17.23.31 Quit ompaul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.23.39 # and it could set some other reasonable defaults. Like enable the database and load to ram for the average ipod user 17.23.50 # preglow: Yes, that's what I was thinking. 17.23.54 # senab: streched? noway except maybe the bottom bar 17.24.25 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 17.24.25 # and have another set of settings to provide as much buffer space as possible 17.24.37 # bluebrother: I don't think we should enable the database - isn't that done by the prompt when the user selects Database? But maybe enable dircache and also the auto-update options, so if the user does use the database, it works as expected... 17.25.16 # again I cant understand why dircached isn't enabled by default on SWtargets 17.25.20 # linuxstb: I don't want to enable it as default. My idea is to have some configurations shipped, and direct the average user to first loading a recommended one for him 17.25.39 # XavierGr: Yes, either streched and pixelated or highly dithered. Also there's no antialiasing on the icons so they look out of place 17.25.50 # bluebrother: I'm not sure if that's worthwhile, but I agree some of the defaults could be changed. 17.26.01 # so we could describe a few in the manual: after installing, load config A if your usual use is ... 17.26.20 # if you usual use is foo then load configuration B. 17.26.55 # and so on. If you don't want to use a recommended config combination stick with the defaults 17.27.23 # just like one of those 1st installation wizards. 17.27.41 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 17.27.50 # rbutil could copy one of those to config.cfg if installing using rbutil 17.27.57 Nick austriancoder is now known as ac_away (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 17.28.15 # thats a good idea actually, a GUI for creating config.cfg 17.28.24 # no, not a gui. 17.28.47 # i think a wizard gui would work though 17.28.47 # the installer (rbutil) installing a recommended configuration combination upon request. 17.29.20 # and having those configuration combinations shipped with a build so a user not using rbutil can just load them 17.29.31 # why can't rbutil create a config using a wizard? why select a preset 17.30.00 # because that wizard would need to copy the existing settings. 17.30.18 # if you just provide a pre-generated set you only need to have a description of this. 17.30.42 # plus, having too much settings might confuse the average user. Remember, they are using rbutil ;-) 17.31.00 # that wouldn't be that hard to do, just load the config using the wizard and the current options already selected 17.31.29 # not every setting obviously, just the main one that the user will want to change 17.31.34 # sure, it's possible. But I don't think the complexity is worth it, especially when thinking of average users. 17.31.54 # they want something useable, not fiddle around with settings (and possibly read the manual to understand those settings first) 17.31.58 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.32.10 # exactly! the wizard would explain the settings 17.32.20 # too complex. 17.32.38 # what's the problem with having only a few defaults the user can choose of? 17.32.56 # all other settings can be changed on the player. It's only for giving some better starting settings. 17.33.16 # some settings on the player are a buit mystic though 17.33.21 # *bit 17.33.36 # but that is what the manual is for ;-) 17.33.56 # eg. Crossfeed, dithering, diff between hardware & soft equalizer, etc 17.34.09 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.45) 17.34.21 # to someone who doesn't know what they are... 17.34.53 # you would also need to differ between the different player models which is not needed if you provide a few profiles 17.35.27 # someone who doesn't know what crossfeed is most likely needs to read the manual or doesn't even want to use it. 17.37.11 # fiar enough 17.37.15 # *fair 17.37.54 # i may actually have a look at a config wizard as a bit of a project 17.38.40 # feel free to write a full create-my-own-config wizard application ;-) 17.39.00 # but I think it's somewhat overkill in rbutil, both for devs and users 17.40.08 # it'll keep me busy for a bit of the summer ;-) 17.40.36 # better get back to revising for this bloody exam lol 17.41.04 Part pixie 17.41.45 Quit senab (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC") 17.48.03 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 17.48.52 Join akempgen [0] (n=Alex@p5494DFBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.55.24 # someone should put in some hours and find out if the hw eq really can work as such, or if it should be used as bass/treble controls instead 17.57.07 # I guess it's over for rockbox. Microsoft anounced that there is no more free software movement.. http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php 17.57.46 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 17.57.47 # markun: yeah, when I read that I immediatly reinstalled windows and stopped coding rockbox 17.57.55 # what a pity 17.58.29 # well, it was a lot of fun while it lasted 17.58.35 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-0d6a19152984907f) 17.58.36 # markun: yeah, and only because a lot of linux developers are paid now 17.58.57 # i didn't know that meant the end for us, but i'm willing to take his word for it :/ 17.59.39 # yes, he sounds like a smart guy 17.59.54 # preglow: perhaps I can now work for free on a microsoft project 18.00.08 # I'd guess they had to "answer" the "Microsoft is dead" piece that was written recently. 18.00.21 # Lear: probably :) 18.00.51 # i wish people stopped writing shit 18.01.58 Quit Kotjze () 18.02.23 # linuxstb: your wpsbuild script seems to have problems with RWPS versus WPS 18.02.23 # preglow: or at least linking to it so I can't resist reading it :) 18.02.38 # .. stop linking to it .. 18.06.40 Quit nightstalker (Connection timed out) 18.11.34 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust660.brig.cable.ntl.com) 18.12.50 # * Nico_P has a surprise for Llorean... http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7164 18.17.13 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 18.18.43 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust660.brig.cable.ntl.com) 18.18.57 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 18.33.17 # i have a folder on my ipod where if i goto it in file browser and select to play a file, it always plays a particular song and not the one i selected 18.33.24 # would anyone have any idea what has caused this? 18.33.55 # i think it might be loading a bookmark or something, cause it starts playing at 1 minute or so into the track, and sometimes doesnt even start playing, just saves a bookmark and returns. 18.34.28 # itd be not as bad were the track not 'gold' by spandau ballet 18.37.34 # check the "load last bookmark" setting 18.37.55 # (in General settings / Bookmarking) 18.38.11 # ty 18.39.24 # oh that is much better :) 18.39.52 # I prefer "Ask" on that setting ;-) 18.39.57 # you're welcome 18.40.28 Quit lostnihilist (Remote closed the connection) 18.45.35 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@224.50.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 18.46.41 # Hello 18.46.43 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host2-172-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.50.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.54.28 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3074.gwdg.de) 18.55.34 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh14192@dxb-as63756.alshamil.net.ae) 18.57.33 Join Gursikh [0] (n=Gursikh@unaffiliated/gursikh) 18.57.35 Part akempgen 18.58.51 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@ppp-68-251-44-79.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 19.17.33 # hi 19.19.10 Quit pearldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.03 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 19.22.03 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 19.24.35 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.33.54 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-226-220.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 19.36.36 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.36.50 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 19.38.49 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.40.26 # The "running time" item in the "system" menu is supposed to show the time since charging the batteries, right? 19.40.49 # no, the time since the last reset 19.41.08 # I mean the last time you resetted the time :) 19.41.17 # aha, that explains why it was over 100h :-) 19.41.36 # so it never resets automatically 19.41.36 # ? 19.41.57 # I have 358 hrs :) 19.42.02 # it does but don't remenber when 19.42.11 # only when you plug the charger in while in that screen 19.42.15 # IIRC 19.42.22 # yeah something like this 19.43.29 # and if you plug USB under rockbox too, that was like this at least before bluebrother changes 19.43.58 # * n1s closes a 4 years old feature request 19.44.19 # hehe :-) 19.44.21 Part maffe 19.44.58 Nick _pill is now known as pill (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) 19.47.56 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E844.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.49.30 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.50.47 # n1s: you added instructions for dualboot for iaudios? 19.51.51 # duh wrong check, lacky in tetex language 19.52.12 # moos: hmm, it seems I missed the m5 in at least one place though... 19.55.36 # that what I thought, thx for the fix 19.58.55 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@ip50210.estcmp.ku.edu) 20.00.26 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.02.09 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@c-24-1-62-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.04.05 Quit lostnihilist (Remote closed the connection) 20.08.46 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust660.brig.cable.ntl.com) 20.11.33 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@c-24-1-62-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.14.06 # hi all, anyone in here who is capable of building (and interested in testing) changes in codecs/libmusepack? As I am quite new to rockbox-source I would like to have some more targets to be tested 20.16.31 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AFF84.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.17.15 # moos: did the resetting the timer by plugging usb power work for you before my changes? It didn't work for me before 20.17.17 Join SiebaZ [0] (n=lala@p5484E9EA.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.17.32 # hi 20.17.50 # so i've got a question ^^ 20.17.55 # plus, as I only changed the display I would be somewhat surprised if that was affected -- it works fine if I plug the charger on my h120, so the detection itself is still present 20.18.00 # SiebaZ, then ask. 20.18.08 # otherwise you won't get an answer ;-) 20.18.29 # is it possibke to dual boot the original FW and rockbox ? 20.18.56 # i was just able to find the single boot loader used in the man 20.19.13 # sry 4 my english xD im german :D 20.20.02 # what player are you talking about? 20.20.05 # im using the ipod nano 1st gen 20.20.18 # sure. The official bootloader can do so. 20.20.22 # bluebrother: in the past it did IIRC but after your changes I didn't test yet 20.20.58 # moos, that's really strange. It never did for me on the ipod, but it still works on the h120 20.21.06 # but i was just able to load rockbox oO 20.21.10 # SiebaZ, enable the hold switch when booting 20.21.19 # ahhh thx =) 20.21.36 # but I'm pretty sure that's mentioned in the manual somewhere. 20.21.45 # didnt found that in the man xD 20.21.45 # otherwise we should add it :) 20.21.47 # bluebrother: on my X5 it did 20.21.54 # and now I don't know 20.22.09 # ok, I don't consider "don't know" as a bug ;-) 20.22.36 # but when you get around trying it and it doesn't work anymore please let me know 20.23.05 # no problems I will this night, I need to eat something and go out right now 20.23.26 # hehe, and never said that you caused any bug ;) 20.23.33 # no hurry -- I'm busy this evening anyway 20.23.45 # hehe, I know ;-) 20.23.56 # another question is that it seems that rockbox needs more power is that right? 20.24.13 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 20.25.43 # yes. 20.25.43 # only on the ipods and other devices using the same processor(s). 20.26.15 # but y does it need more power? 20.26.19 # battery life is better on all players that don't use a PortalPlayer cpu. 20.26.33 # kk 20.26.46 # is it possible to fix that? 20.26.58 # Rockbox itself doesn't need more power, but running Rockbox draws more power than the original firmware on Ipods and other PP targets 20.27.05 # hopefully, it appears something is turned on which shouldn't be turned on. 20.27.15 # it's possible to fix it, but first someone needs to identify the problem at all. 20.27.31 # as the PP is a somewhat mysterious thing this is kinda hard. 20.27.33 Quit pill ("changing servers") 20.27.35 # hehe kay i understand 20.27.39 # (no data sheets around) 20.27.51 # im not that much in programming =( 20.27.58 # cause of no time.... 20.28.13 # I guess time is an issue for most here 20.28.35 # and we are just starting to learn java @ school 20.28.47 # i hope thats a beginning 4 me =) 20.29.37 # * bluebrother hates Java 20.29.51 # xD 20.30.03 # and rockbox is written in what? 20.30.07 # C?? 20.30.08 # * bluebrother never got the meaning of this smiley 20.30.21 # C, and with asm for critical / heavily optimized parts 20.30.46 # c++ or just c? 20.31.07 # c 20.31.44 # now im going to learn it ... and than trying to fix the problem with the battery :D 20.31.50 # * SiebaZ is just joking :D 20.32.07 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 20.32.11 # Hmm.. i'm learning PASCAL at school :D, hope to get started with c++ in summer :) 20.32.14 # identifying the problematic piece would be helpful enough ;-) 20.32.24 # hehe 20.32.30 # as long as you aren't required to do vba ... 20.32.53 # vba?? 20.33.04 # but luckily I left school quite some years ago :D 20.33.12 # visual basic for applications. MS crap. 20.33.27 # ahh kay understand linux4 life =) 20.33.53 # linux4? What do you mean? 20.34.02 # but im just a fucking noob in linux ^^ (ubuntu) 20.34.08 # linux 4 life ;) 20.34.17 # 4 = for ;) 20.34.37 # nah, there are a couple of interesting systems around. But this ms-languages are strange 20.34.46 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.35.11 # what system do u use? ^^ 20.37.48 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.38.37 Join pill [0] (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) 20.38.53 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 20.40.16 # andrewg867, you around? 20.43.09 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 20.43.09 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.43.13 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 20.44.06 # SiebaZ, got my pm? 20.45.06 # yeah 20.48.08 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.48.48 # ill go now thx for the fast help =) 20.49.46 # you're welcome 20.50.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.50.11 # andree buschmann? 20.50.27 # isn't that like one of the guys who coded musepack? 20.50.49 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.45) 20.51.06 # yes, according to wikipedia 20.51.20 # but I wasn't aware of that until I looked it up now ;-) 20.51.27 # oh well, if it is him, it's fun to have him optimising our libmusepack :P 20.54.37 # yeah, looks like it is him 20.55.49 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.57.23 Join keba [0] (n=Administ@74-138-224-103.dhcp.insightbb.com) 20.58.09 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.58.55 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p5484b76b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.01.22 Quit Arathis (Nick collision from services.) 21.01.29 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p5484b76b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.10.59 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 21.10.59 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.11.03 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 21.11.43 # anybody with access to the AS3514 datasheet around? 21.12.26 # zivan56: yes 21.13.04 # rp-: have you seen the latest SVN mod to enable line1in? 21.13.29 # just shortly checked the diff, any problems with it? 21.13.47 # it seems to cause a buzz, so my guess is that line1 is not in fact connect to the radio 21.14.04 # would you know how to enable linein2 instead? 21.14.16 # 1 sec 21.16.46 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 21.16.46 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.16.50 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 21.19.29 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 21.19.55 # as3514_write(AUDIOSET1, 0x6C); 21.20.06 # enables both line ins 21.20.25 # thanks 21.20.47 # as3514_write(AUDIOSET1, 0x68); 21.20.50 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496575d.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.20.52 # just for line-in-2 21.21.06 # and don't forget to set the volume 21.22.23 # would the latter set volume? 21.22.57 # no, the latter only enables line-in-2 without line-in-1 21.23.55 # for the gain just check the diff of the svn checkin and change the LINE_IN1_(R/L) constant 21.24.26 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.25.01 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E844.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.25.16 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.29.30 # rp-: any idea what would cause a buzzing sound from line-in-1? and get louder when volume is set lower? 21.29.33 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3052.gwdg.de) 21.32.40 # line-in-2 seems to produce only silence, so the radio is probably on line-in-1 21.36.22 Quit n17ikh|Lappy ("gone") 21.38.19 # zivan56: sorry no idea, and i can't check it out, because i have a sansa without radio :/ 21.38.19 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.38.47 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 21.39.05 # zivan56: sorry no idea, and i can't check it out, because i have a sansa without radio :/ 21.40.15 # ah, i think the noise is generated by the AS chip, though that it might be in the wrong state 21.40.20 # but it's probably not 21.42.31 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.42.32 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.42.33 # the radio chip uses stereo right? 21.42.51 # yes 21.43.11 # although it can do mono as well and can be forced stereo 21.45.57 Quit SiebaZ (Remote closed the connection) 21.47.04 # the noise is there only when the LCD is on, which is kind of strange 21.52.49 # maybe the radio is connected via mic1/2, they are both stereo inputs 21.54.04 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.54.07 # zivan56: well, i found something, austriancoder forgot to enable the ADC, and the default ADC values only enables micro 21.55.01 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.55.02 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.08 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 21.55.21 # ah, could explain it 21.56.35 # as3514_write(AUDIOSET1, 0xE4); /* Turn on ADC, SUM, DAC, LineIn1 */ 21.56.44 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.57.17 # trying it now, hope that was the problem 21.57.51 # this will not fix it, you need to set the ADC registers as well 21.58.08 # just a sec 21.58.12 # ah, ok, thanks 21.58.52 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust660.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.01.24 # setting a frequency on this chip requres "rocket science," or something close to it, 3 registers and time critical calculations 22.02.14 # thankfully it has 2 timers to accomplish the time related stuff 22.04.35 # as3514_write(ADC_R, 0x57); /* enable Line_IN1 and set default volume*/ 22.04.35 # as3514_write(ADC_L, 0x57); /* unmute ADC and set default volume*/ 22.04.56 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.04.59 # bit 0-5 is for volume 22.05.20 # sorry 0-4 22.05.51 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 22.05.51 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.05.55 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 22.06.07 # great, will play with it and see if something works 22.08.07 # well the buzz is lower pitched now :) 22.08.13 # :) 22.09.04 # but no radio static once the screen turns off 22.09.40 # although the radio field strength changes when i move the player around, so it should at least produce something 22.09.43 Join webguest47 [0] (i=42195f1c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-89f4b8ca622c2497) 22.10.11 Quit webguest47 (Client Quit) 22.10.48 Join ubunt-who [0] (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 22.11.03 # when i just enable linein2, there is no sound, but linein1 has the lcd buzz issue 22.11.13 # adding the adc stuff doesn't seem to do much except change the pitch of the lcd buzz 22.12.19 # as3514_write(ADC_R, 0xD7); /* enable AUDIO SUM and set default volume */ 22.12.49 # you can try that, that should sum all ADC channels 22.13.31 # that sounds like what I need :) 22.13.42 # should i still set the gain on line1/line2? 22.14.04 # yes, every channel has it's seperate volume 22.15.48 Join Guile` [0] (n=Guile@84.7.92.77) 22.16.06 # so this should theorectically enable the built in mic as well and send it to the headphones as well? 22.16.36 Join krush1704 [0] (n=andikrus@p57bb3083.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.16.57 # the 2 mic's need also to enabled in the AUDIOSET1 register :) 22.17.10 # bit 0 and 1 22.17.24 # 0 -> mic1, 1 -> mic2 22.17.25 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.17.32 Join zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 22.17.59 # got it? you have some problem with your irc-client? :) 22.18.51 # got it, yes i think the server is dropping me for some reason 22.19.07 # probably firewall 22.21.39 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 22.22.00 # setting both mics on and turning up volume/gain on them seems to produce no sound even when blowing into the mic 22.22.06 Quit petur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.08 Nick ubunt-who is now known as nettrust (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 22.22.13 Join RockingD [0] (n=sergey@ppp85-140-148-133.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 22.23.16 # do all sources need to be unmuted or does audio sum do it? 22.27.04 # the settings I have for AUDIOSET1 only enable line1in, so wouldnt that cancel out everything? 22.27.19 # Hello. I'm having lockup problems with IPod 3g 20GB (known issue). I want to help with the development of this port. I think I could start off with reproducing the issue and studying logs. Is there a way to enable logging while studying project architecture? 22.28.41 # logging in on-target-logging? Build yourself a logf-enabled build. 22.29.23 # thanks a lot. 22.29.37 Quit Buschel () 22.30.02 Part maffe 22.30.55 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 22.31.07 # Hi! I'm wrote 2 plugin-games for rockbox alst week. I wnat to use a timer, like a countdown, in one of them. Which header-file I have to use or whats the function call? 22.32.43 Quit nettrust (Remote closed the connection) 22.33.28 # krush1704: I think the metronome uses a timer, maybe you can look at it's code 22.33.38 # what kind of games are you making? 22.33.41 # zivan56: as3514_write(AUDIOSET1, 0xFF); enables all channels of the as3514, maybe the best for you to test 22.34.36 # thanks, ill chek the source 22.35.26 # rp-, I would still set each input _L and _R to 0x36 to unmute and set gain, right? 22.35.49 # you are right 22.37.16 # markun: difficult to say, I think puzzle-games 22.37.45 # Theres a flash version of one of them, I look for the link 22.38.41 # krush1704: The timer metronome uses is a high-resolution timer. The "current_tick" variable is accessible from plugins (now = *rb->current_tick) and is updated 100 times per second. 22.38.43 # this one is 90% finished, but without a timer, theres no motivation 22.38.55 # http://www.gameshot.org/?id=877 22.39.22 Join [1]zivan56 [0] (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 22.39.29 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.39.30 Nick [1]zivan56 is now known as zivan56 (n=zivan56@64.46.5.220.novuscom.net) 22.39.36 # thanks linuxstb 22.40.25 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.50.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.50.56 Quit HellDragon ("reboot") 22.51.18 Quit rp- ("http://www.last.fm/user/rp-") 22.52.13 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.52.28 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496575D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.52.43 Quit zivan56 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 22.54.52 # markun: did you find any nice hrtf libraries? 22.56.39 Join |cub| [0] (n=cub@cub.kiev.ua) 22.57.04 # <|cub|> good `date` people (: 22.57.49 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.58.19 Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-40-106.hlrn.qwest.net) 23.00.16 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.03.42 Join joa [0] (n=joe@cpc4-ipsw1-0-0-cust960.colc.cable.ntl.com) 23.03.56 Quit RockingD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.04.44 # preglow: yes 23.05.00 # markun: name/url? 23.05.01 # let me see if I can find the link 23.05.11 # think i'm gonna implement binaural ambisonics 23.05.20 # that's great!! 23.05.30 # 1st order for now? 23.05.46 # xth order 23.05.55 # since my encoder/decoder set already works with that 23.06.01 # howmany virtual speakers would you need for that? 23.06.13 # depends on the order, really 23.06.21 # 4 is the minimum for 1st? 23.06.27 # since my encoder/decoder allows arbitrary order as it is, i don't see any reason to limit myself now :) 23.06.30 # yes 23.06.43 # you generally need at least order + 1 number of speakers for 2d 23.07.45 # preglow: http://interface.cipic.ucdavis.edu/CIL_html/CIL_HRTF_database.htm 23.08.11 # that's a lot better than the MIT one I think 23.08.46 # you mean the kemar one? 23.09.00 # ahh, this has kemar too 23.09.36 # hrm, now to figure out how to properly crossfade between impulse responses when doing block convolution 23.11.56 # preglow: could you maybe compute some 'average' response or something? Or will it be possible to choose the head which works the best for the user? 23.12.04 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 23.12.25 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@ip50210.estcmp.ku.edu) 23.12.31 # markun: no easy way to do that 23.12.37 # computing an average response would be no good 23.13.35 Nick ac_away is now known as austriancoder (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 23.13.53 # preglow: so what's your plan? 23.14.16 # i have no idea, for now, just to make a binaural ambisonics decoder 23.14.35 # hi all 23.14.38 # hi 23.16.35 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.42.148) 23.18.30 Join MbS_ [0] (n=chatzill@A-105-125.cust.iol.ie) 23.20.37 # Im trying to sync a patch to SVN and can't find what happened to "/apps/settings_menu.c". Anyone know?? 23.21.09 # MbS_: it's in apps/menus I think 23.21.26 # that it is. Thanks 23.22.21 Join RockingD [0] (n=sergey@ppp85-141-132-97.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 23.25.42 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.26.55 Quit p3tur ("Zzzzzz") 23.32.29 Part n1s 23.36.53 Part digerati1338 23.37.24 Quit krazykit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.37.29 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-128-88.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 23.40.47 Quit joa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.41.59 # is there anyway to make the RB bootloader write to the sansa hidden firmware partition? (such as at 0x7810e1 [I think, need to check wiki] to disable database refresh) 23.42.40 Quit krazykit ("Lost terminal") 23.42.41 Quit |cub| (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.44.22 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-128-88.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 23.45.06 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.45.54 # chrisjs169|brb: IIRC, jdGordon has already done that. 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