--- Log for 17.05.107 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 9 hours ago 00.07.23 Quit chrisjs169|brb (Remote closed the connection) 00.08.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp139-45.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.13.11 Part nls 00.17.43 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.23 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.24.35 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 00.24.37 # Domonoky: Looking at your recent changes to rbutil, why not put the manual name in the rbutil.ini file? 00.24.48 # Hey any linux users about? 00.25.33 Join webguest87 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-910b9c3be1c6bd92) 00.25.39 # hi 00.27.16 # preglow: do we have any use for ffmpeg's buffered IO system? 00.27.31 # right now all reads are buffered by ffmpeg itself 00.29.03 # http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://bb.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/news/18076.html&prev=/language_tools 00.30.33 Quit Siltaar (Remote closed the connection) 00.30.41 # how do i restart my ipod 00.31.06 # Hold MENU+SELECT for a few seconds 00.31.17 # http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61705 00.31.23 # but it doesnt really work 00.31.24 # http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgenerationmp3.com%2Findex.php%2F2007%2F05%2F15%2F6255-adieu-cowon-iaudio-x5&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 00.31.30 # linuxstb: about the bufferedio thing 00.32.21 # What if my computer doesnt recognize my ipod after intalling rockbox? 00.32.45 # then you can reboot it in disk mode 00.33.04 # saratoga: I've no idea what it is, but my guess would be that we wouldn't want it. 00.33.15 # sounds good 00.34.13 # How do i enter disk mode? 00.34.16 # Can someone assist me in adding http://rafb.net/p/zxc3lA86.htmlto my path? 00.34.20 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5f2ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9cd88d39da32e495) 00.34.27 # http://rafb.net/p/zxc3lA86.html to 00.36.49 # BigMac: As root, type the following: echo 'export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin' >> ~/.bashrc 00.37.03 # Or just open up .bashrc in an editor and add that line. 00.37.31 # ok 00.37.37 # webguest87: Hold SELECT+PLAY as your ipod reboots 00.37.42 # and that will allow my path to stick? 00.37.58 # Yes 00.38.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7172 00.38.09 # nice ideas 00.38.50 # linuxstb: oh and btw, how do you exit root, I I thought it was sudo -s but it doesn't seem to work 00.39.27 Quit lozzy ("Leaving") 00.40.08 # What is the worst case scenario that can ocuur while installing rockbox on ipod video 30gb? 00.40.44 # BigMac: I never use sudo. I just do "su" by itself to become the root user for a while, then "exit" to drop back to my normal account. 00.41.25 # ah I see 00.41.34 # BigMac: Sorry, my advice was wrong - do it as the normal user... 00.41.37 # webguest87: you might have to read all the instructions to get everything working 00.41.44 # basically the worst case 00.42.01 # so there is no way on earth that i can really mess up my ipod 00.42.20 # such as my putting it into disk mode and it still not recognizing it 00.42.20 # BigMac: I was going to suggest you changed the system startup file (which requires root privileges), then thought better... 00.42.36 # webguest87: correct 00.43.44 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 00.43.47 Join idnar_ [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 00.44.28 # What if i put my ipod video into disk mode and the computer still does not recognize it? 00.44.32 # webguest87: If your ipod is in disk mode, but your computer doesn't recognise it, it's more likely to be a problem with your computer. 00.44.48 # ohh 00.45.00 # webguest87,of course your house could burn down 00.45.16 # lol 00.45.16 # saratoga: i would guess we want to do all our own buffering 00.45.36 # good, this will let me simply things a good bit 00.45.53 # That's how we like things... 00.46.11 # saratoga: what if i get an error message on my ipod and then none of the buttons work and when i connect it to my computer it doesnt recognize it? 00.47.25 # webguest87: Then you need to put it in disk mode... 00.47.46 # webguest87,you can always get it into disk mode this is an apple function not rockbox's 00.47.58 # oh 00.48.17 # Will you guys be making rockbox for second gen ipod nano? 00.48.57 # webguest87: sure, if we ever have enough information to do so 00.48.59 # in a heartbeat 00.49.22 # You might have to hold the buttons for along time or release them and try again 00.49.57 # please try to get rockbox for second generation ipod nano 00.50.05 # i would really really and i mean really appreciate it 00.50.23 Quit webguest87 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.50.36 Join webguest87 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-149da3a08b1881d8) 00.50.59 # Please make rockbox for Second Generation Ipod Nano 00.51.20 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.51.35 Quit webguest87 (Client Quit) 00.51.39 Join RaRe` [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 00.51.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.55.04 Quit obo ("bye") 00.56.57 # is it possible to skin the boot screen? 00.57.03 Quit RaRe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.30 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@host-64-139-246-34.nctv.com) 01.00.41 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 01.00.43 # Javacat_: Yes, if you compile Rockbox from source with a different bitmap. 01.01.22 # humbug :P 01.01.23 # thanks 01.01.38 # Javacat_,or there is a tool on the mysticriver forum site 01.02.09 # Cool :D 01.05.51 # Bagder: Still here? 01.06.46 # Bagder: If so (or if you read the logs), can you move this to the download server? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rbutil-v0.3.2.3.dmg 01.08.01 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 01.08.47 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust660.brig.cable.ntl.com) 01.09.58 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.10.51 # Bagder: You can reenable SDL builds on my box now, the latest debian-unstable binutils are fixed 01.11.10 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.12.15 Quit RaRe` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.12.26 Join [1]robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust660.brig.cable.ntl.com) 01.13.10 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 01.13.55 # I am not having any luck with figuring out tuning for the sanyo chip, if anybody is interested check out FS 7178 01.14.36 # the datasheet explains it, but there are no technical details 01.14.53 # but I see full radio support coming very soon :) 01.15.13 Quit [1]robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.16.08 # zivan56: good work 01.16.43 # thanks austriancoder 01.17.03 Part TrueJournals 01.17.12 # * austriancoder is sad that his sansa has no fm 01.17.36 Join mpeccorini [0] (i=a8f39f1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aa82d38f678aa841) 01.17.45 # ah, EU version doesn't unfortunately...at least not the recent ones 01.19.25 # austriancoder: do you hear a buzz with after your commit of as3514.c ? 01.20.10 # zivan56: sometimes... but i will fix the code in svn as we know now that fm is connected via line in 1 01.20.25 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.20.28 Quit kynes ("Leaving") 01.20.39 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.20.58 Join sinisterguy [0] (n=wasted@CPE00131025897e-CM0014045b6464.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.21.08 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 01.21.27 # hey, i was wondering about what a good mp3 player with 4GB or more of storage would be. 01.21.40 # austriancoder: also volume control doesn't work with line1 and changing the volume while listening to music makes the music cut out 01.22.24 # sinisterguy: Sandisk Sansa e260 might be 01.22.34 # really depends on what you want it to do 01.22.54 # zivan56: does it play ogg? 01.22.58 # sinisterguy: Based on those criteria (plays mp3, at least 4GB), almost anything Rockbox supports.. 01.23.14 # sinisterguy: rockbox supports ogg, so I believe everything rockbox supports does 01.23.26 # zivan56: volume control should work, if you have coded it :) sound problems.. i konw of them, but i dont know how to fix them... hope that it will be something like 70000084 |= 1 - I need to get the emulator running under windows.. but at the moment it crashes# 01.24.08 # zivan56: Not quite - the Archos devices only support MP2/3 (and WAV in progress) 01.24.18 # austriancoder: I guess there is no "master" volume, but not in a hurry, as tuning still needs to be implemented 01.24.51 # zivan56: master = mixer volume 01.24.53 # linuxstb: good to know, do they still sell those devices? 01.24.56 Part maffe 01.25.12 # zivan56: No, but that's the same for almost all Rockbox supported devices... 01.26.09 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.26.14 # linuxstb: Do you think Apple will discontinue the G5.5 the moment it's fully supported by rockbox (i.e. also the 80GB model)? ;) 01.26.19 # austriancoder: current code uses DAC_R/DAC_L, so I was under the impression that was the dac which is connected to the headphones 01.26.49 # amiconn: Of course :) The delay with the real 6th gen is just so they can wait for us to add 80GB support.. 01.26.54 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 01.27.00 Part sinisterguy 01.27.36 # how many rockbox devs here have a sansa with FM support? 01.27.51 # zivan56: at the moment i am not shure whats the best way to control volume is... i tried some of them.. and will change it in near future 01.28.24 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.30.38 Part Domonoky 01.30.58 Quit robin0800_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.17 Join zivan56-2 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 01.33.17 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.33.28 Join safetydan [0] (i=cbca159f@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 01.33.35 Nick zivan56-2 is now known as zivan56 (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 01.33.37 # zivan56-2: i think not so many 01.34.30 # yeah, most developers appear to be in Europe, not many in NA 01.34.59 # mabe i can buy an non eu version... 01.35.30 # kind of a waste of money since you already have a sansa 01.35.49 # did you check to make sure it has no fm tuner? If its older, it may just have EU firmware 01.36.10 # which just hides the tuner 01.36.44 # zivan56: i havent opend my sansa.. but i could try your code and see what happens 01.38.29 Join RaRe` [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 01.38.29 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.38.39 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 01.39.00 # austriancoder: you can just replace the OF with the north american version if its easier 01.40.01 # zivan56: what values have you written to ADC_L and ADC_R in as3514.c ? 01.40.17 # I am using your commit, no changes 01.40.39 # zivan56: fine :) 01.43.35 Quit intgr (Remote closed the connection) 01.43.46 # austriancoder: http://www.iwdstudio.com/rockbox/rockbox.mi4 so you don't have to compile it 01.44.23 Join intgr [0] (n=ack@blip.juffo.org) 01.44.26 # that patch modifies a bunch of files, and still needs a lot of work 01.44.54 # zivan56: thanks.. will put it on my sansa 01.44.55 Quit mpeccorini ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.45.38 # easiest way is to go to fm debug screen and see if chip revision is 09 01.45.52 # should probably be all 00 if hardware is not present 01.48.14 # zivan56: chip id = 00 :( 01.48.38 # zivan56: Minor comment about your patch - it contains lots of whitespace changes. It looks like your editor is automatically removing trailing spaces from lines. 01.49.18 # linuxstb: yes it does unfortunately, can you recommend a win32 editor which does not? I have tried 3 of them... 01.49.35 # Also, I think you want to use &&, not & in the #if lines (apart from checking CONFIG_TUNER of course) 01.50.53 # zivan56: notepad++ and ConText are quite nice (the first should not - the latter definitely does not remove them) 01.51.09 # zivan56: Sorry, I don't know any win32 editors (but I see pixelma does...) 01.51.51 # ah, thanks notepad++ looks good 01.53.02 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.53.29 # i get /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnu/4.0.4/../../../../arm-linux-gnu/bin/ld: error: no memory region specified for loadable section `.got' when i try to build rockbox with gcc-4.0.4 any hints? 01.53.35 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.55.18 # use 4.0.3 01.55.31 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 01.55.47 # linuxstb: where are the && supposed to be? In tuner_sanyo? 01.56.36 # I haven't done bitwise stuff in ages, so I forgot most of it 01.57.31 # zivan56: Also, HAVE_RECORDING isn't defined for the e200, so I don't think there is a need to add the CONFIG_TUNER != LV24020LP checks. In radio.c, I think the recording code should be surrounded by #ifdef HAVE_RECORDING instead of checking for the Sansa's tuner. 01.57.58 # zivan56: you can add your new tuner code with svn add firmware/drivers/name-of-file and it will be shown in svn diff 01.58.26 # zivan56: Lines like +#if (CONFIG_CODEC == SWCODEC) & (CONFIG_TUNER != LV24020LP) should be && - it's a logical AND, not a bitwise AND. 01.58.55 Quit RaRe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.59.06 Join Boubie [0] (n=root@pool-71-106-189-241.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.59.06 # maybe we need to look at runtime if there is a tuner - chip id - and decide if we need the fm radio menu stuff? 01.59.19 # Yes, other targets do that. 01.59.43 # t2 is cool 01.59.53 # e.g. some Recorder V2 models had FM hardware IIRC (but not all) 02.00.21 # I see, will fix it, I was just trying to get it to compile back then 02.00.37 # good to know about svn add, I though it would try to commit it right away 02.01.09 # zivan56: it commits all changes with svn commit 02.01.18 # if you have an developer account 02.01.48 Join mpeccorini [0] (n=mpeccori@mail1.theargusgroup.us) 02.01.54 # schula: Which target are you building for, and what source file is giving that problem? 02.02.22 Join ultraren [0] (n=renwins@adsl-67-124-37-241.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 02.02.23 # zivan56: i could get a sansa with radio for ~125 € 02.02.33 # linuxstb: latest svn, sansa280 (arm), i will try now the rockboxdev script 02.02.51 # austriancoder: not cheap, but I guess if you really need the radio 02.03.36 # zivan56: if i can sell my "old" sansa to a firend.. i think i will do it, as radio is cool 02.03.53 # good idea 02.05.11 # hi all, does somebody know if testing/commits to specific plugins are assigned to specific developers? 02.06.31 # mpeccorini: No, it's whoever wants to work on them at the time. 02.07.10 # hmmm, I see 02.07.12 # Did you see my question earlier about your chessbox patch? 02.07.21 # sorry, I didn't 02.07.32 # I've been kind of busy at work today 02.07.35 # what was the question? 02.07.46 # Reading the description of the patch, do I understand correctly that you write to the disk after each move? 02.07.50 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 02.08.14 # I keep the file open an write after every move 02.08.15 Quit daurn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.08.20 # is that incorrect? 02.08.34 # should I keep everything in memory and write at the end of the match? 02.08.51 # In Rockbox yes - spinning the disk up to write the move will use a lot of battery poewr. 02.08.54 # ^power 02.09.06 Join chrisjs169|afk [0] (n=opera@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.09.17 # God, you're right, my bad ! 02.09.36 # since I use a flash based iPod I didn't put much thought about that 02.09.41 Join Joely [0] (n=joel@adsl-70-131-96-203.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 02.09.47 Part chrisjs169|afk 02.09.51 # I'll rewrite the entire patch then 02.10.01 Join webguest30 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-39f314bc39ee9b06) 02.10.05 # is there a way to "reject" the one I submitted? 02.10.36 # No, just post a new version of the patch as a comment to the same task. 02.10.54 # Many patches go through multple revisions before being committed. 02.10.59 # ok, I will, but that can take a couple days 02.11.15 # I'll post a comment so everybody knows that one should not be commited 02.11.36 # making a reference to your observation of course ;) 02.12.21 # I think you over-estimate how efficient we all are at committing patches... 02.12.22 # when is the stable release version of ipod video coming out??? 02.12.35 # hehehe 02.12.48 # webguest30: there is no date 02.12.49 # well, the first patch I submitted was posted the day after that 02.13.22 # it was a very small change to stopwatch (just for warming up in rockbox development) 02.13.24 # so should i use current build or archieve build for my ipod video? 02.13.30 # current 02.14.17 # what if the ipod messes up with this rock box , does the ipod stop functioning ?? 02.14.36 # you cannot harm your ipod with rockbox 02.14.40 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.164.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.15.08 # if anything happens how do i get my ipod back to its original state? 02.15.54 # with itunes 02.16.30 # scorche: what if the computer does not recognize the ipod? 02.16.46 # then you put it into disk-mode manually 02.17.04 # what if the menu plus center buttons dont work? 02.17.39 # then how do i get it into disk mode? 02.18.06 Join webguest11 [0] (i=4c673b91@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4c563e923d59c1d1) 02.18.08 # webguest30: Are you going to ask about the 2nd gen Nano again? 02.18.16 Quit webguest11 (Client Quit) 02.18.23 # no 02.18.26 # webguest30: it will work 02.18.40 # ok 02.18.40 # if it doesnt, then you have some major issues with your ipod 02.18.44 # You've asked all the other questions earlier.. 02.18.46 # thank you very much 02.19.13 Part mpeccorini 02.19.20 # sorry 02.19.22 # about 02.19.23 # that 02.19.29 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.06 Join flipb0ir [0] (i=flipb0ir@c-76-103-59-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 02.22.08 Join webguest59 [0] (i=4c673b91@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-52fbc23fc139139a) 02.22.37 Quit flipb0ir (Client Quit) 02.22.38 Quit webguest59 (Client Quit) 02.23.55 Join webguest75 [0] (i=4c673b91@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1f4814b827585b3a) 02.24.51 Quit webguest75 (Client Quit) 02.25.05 # my 4th gen greyscale ipod keeps freezing during playback. any ideas on why or how to fix it? 02.27.06 # when u are extracting your files, in the intrustions says, your folder should be /.rockbox or just .rockbox 02.27.27 Join BillGod [0] (n=me@user-12l372l.cable.mindspring.com) 02.29.26 # Sorry to bust in Just wondering how far anyone has gotten on sansa 200r? I read badger was able to change vanilla to R and back. Just wondering if there are docs yet as to installing on R yet? 02.29.39 # ultraren: It's a known problem on some ipods. You can try this unofficial build which works around the problem - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6357.0 02.30.43 # webguest30: The folder itself is just called ".rockbox". The / indicates that the folder is at the top-level (root) of the drive. 02.32.00 # what's frequency scaling? will i miss it when its gone? 02.33.39 # It's changing the frequency of the CPU (i.e. the speed) dynamically. You'll probably notice your ipod feels faster with it disabled, but it will be using slightly more power. 02.33.57 Quit entheh ("^~") 02.35.15 # hmm, well that's moderatly annoying. but at least i wont have to keep rebooting while i'm driving 02.37.01 # how do i install it once ive got it? 02.37.26 # The same as a standard Rockbox build - just extract the zip file to your ipod, overwriting the existing .rockbox folder. 02.37.40 # aaahhh 02.37.42 # rock on 02.43.36 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.43.36 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.45.05 Quit austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 02.47.25 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 02.48.09 # do all targets with radio support recording from it? 02.49.37 # #if defined(HAVE_RECORDING) || CONFIG_TUNER is in the source, but this would enable the recording even if it HAVE_RECORDING is not set? 02.51.25 # wouldn't it be HAVE_RECORDING && CONFIG_TUNER ? 02.51.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.52.23 # or would it break other targets... 02.52.56 # I downloaded rockbox but the text is way too small 02.52.59 # how can i make it bigger? 02.53.21 # change the font maybe? 02.53.42 # or is it totally unreadable...? 02.53.47 # how do i change the font? 02.53.59 # it is readable but very small 02.54.28 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-2060009.1.2 02.54.54 # well check the manual for your player, but it should be the same 02.56.53 # i have the ipod video 02.57.02 # how do i change the font for it 02.58.31 # check the link, its the exact same 02.59.13 # Anyone know if Sansa 200r is working yet? 02.59.38 # BillGod: no 03.00.20 # zivan56: Thanks 03.00.43 # zivan56: I think that currently all devices with Radio support recording, but your patch should probably change that assumption. The Sansa has radio, but no recording (at the moment) 03.01.26 # linuxstb: though so, was wondering why it was trying to compile stuff related to recording 03.01.50 Part grndslm ("Leaving") 03.02.22 # linuxstb: do you know which targets have different radios? so I can test compile them to make sure it doesn't break things 03.02.37 # grep CONFIG_TUNER firmware/export/config-*.h 03.02.48 Quit webguest30 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.04.03 Join webguest14 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5384f5b2c6cefe01) 03.04.14 # How do i make doom work on my ipod video 03.07.28 # How do i make Pacman work on my ipod 03.07.51 # pick the manual for your player from this site http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml like suggested to you above - it should answer most of your questions 03.09.24 # Would it ever be possible to control my iAudio X5 using the controls on my cars steering wheel with the correct cables through the use of the USB OTG (when it gets fully reverse engineered)? (like with the standard iPods firmware) 03.10.14 Quit Guile` ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 03.11.23 # i still dont understand how to download it 03.11.29 # can u help with doom 03.11.49 Join webguest98 [0] (i=45d60266@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9be1bf7e8a97ad02) 03.12.17 # hey, 03.12.24 # anyone here? 03.12.30 # on* 03.12.41 # webguest14: Are you reading the "Getting Started" section on the PluginDoom wiki page? 03.13.09 Join mhydronic [0] (n=asdf@r74-192-214-29.bcstcmta02.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 03.13.19 # Actually... I bet it could be done using the remote interface with a lot of hacking... hmmm 03.13.48 # is there a way to change the backdrop on ipod 5g without renaming file names? 03.14.02 # I have a quick questino. Can I instal rockbox onto my new 80gb iPod video? Ive done it on my nano but I just got a vid and was wondering if I could. 03.14.17 # yeah 03.14.45 # Really? Sweet. For some reason I thought I couldn't 03.14.51 # no, Rockbox doesn't work on the 80GB models yet 03.14.54 # webguest98: No you can't. 03.14.57 # oh 03.15.07 # the getting started doesnt say anything about doom 03.15.18 # well anyways thanks 03.15.22 Quit webguest98 (Client Quit) 03.15.28 # please give me step by step instructions on how to download doom onto my ipod video 03.15.40 # webguest14: On the PluginDoom wiki page - which is linked from the manual... 03.16.09 # btw. the rockboxdev script is really nice, now i can compile _and_ link rockbox :) 03.16.09 # i am on that page but still dont understand how to install it 03.16.14 # please help me out 03.16.25 # Which step are you stuck on? 03.16.35 # the beginning 03.16.41 # what do i do from the start 03.16.57 # hey linux.. are ipods detected in linux the same way they are in windows? 03.17.47 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 03.17.48 # mhydronic: What do you mean? detected by what? 03.18.17 # please someone help me with doom 03.18.23 # well in windows. i plugin my ipod and it shows up as an additional harddrive. in linux, which i am completely new to and will install tonight, what happens? 03.18.26 # webguest14: I'm not going to repeat the instructions which are on the wiki page unless you say which step you are stuck on. 03.18.48 # how do i create the directory 03.18.55 # i just type it in a new folder 03.19.35 # mmhydronic: It depends on how your Linux is setup, but most distributions will auto-mount USB hard disks when attached - i.e. the same as Windows. 03.19.56 # k nice. thanks 03.20.00 Quit webguest14 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.20.09 Join webguest61 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3581310104333277) 03.20.33 # There is nothing special about ipods - they appear as standard USB disks. 03.20.50 # for doom do i just make a new folder onj my ipod and type .rockbox/doom on it 03.21.00 # webguest 03.21.04 # is your ipod connected? 03.21.11 # yes 03.21.11 # You create a new folder in the .rockbox folder and call it "doom" 03.21.23 # open up my computer and double click on your ipod drive 03.21.33 # you should see a .rockbox folder there 03.21.47 # yes i do 03.21.54 # open it 03.21.56 # i made a new folder called doom in .rockbox 03.22.00 # k 03.22.06 # whats next 03.22.11 # download rockdoom.wad to that folder 03.22.34 # you must be uber nub cuz im nubbish and can figure this out ;) 03.22.51 Quit darkless (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.22.51 NSplit pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.22.59 NHeal pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.22.59 NJoin darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 03.23.19 # ok i downloaded rockdoom.wad 03.23.23 # then what do i do 03.23.36 # rockdoom.wad is in the /.rockbox/doom folder? 03.23.46 # yes 03.24.28 # what should i do after that 03.26.20 # well i don't know what the limitations of the doom1.wad shareware is but i guess download that and unzip it into the /doom folder 03.28.29 # i did that 03.28.38 # it should play after that 03.28.45 # should i just diconnect the ipod 03.29.42 Join peanutb_ [0] (n=paulb@c-71-231-82-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 03.29.51 # yeah but make sure you disable voice 03.30.07 # General Settings -> Voice should be disabled 03.31.17 Quit mhydronic ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.31.18 Quit HellDragon (Connection timed out) 03.31.21 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.33.32 # now its time for pacman 03.33.37 # how do i download pacman 03.34.17 # webguest61: It' 03.34.17 Quit webguest61 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.34.23 # Oh well. 03.34.58 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-137-196-198.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 03.36.52 # * linuxstb sleeps 03.36.57 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 03.41.02 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.43.27 Quit peanutb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.43.37 Nick peanutb_ is now known as peanutb 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 05.54.52 NHeal pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.54.52 NJoin warewolf [0] (i=warewolf@warewolf.org) 05.54.55 NJoin pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 05.55.03 NJoin kennethd [0] (n=kenneth@cpe-66-65-80-62.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.55.15 NJoin FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 05.55.18 Join tipi^ [0] (i=pihlstro@lehtori.cc.tut.fi) 05.55.21 NJoin dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net) 05.55.46 # josh_ go ahead and ask it then :) 05.55.57 NJoin Viljar`zZ [0] (i=viljark@pc34.host1.trt.starman.ee) 05.56.04 # okay, i was making sure it was okay to ask here as there's a forum as well. 05.56.22 # basically, i have a 60gb ipod that i successfully installed rockbox on today. 05.56.48 # i played around with it, installed themes and such, and decided that while rockbox is awesome, i feel like it's more fo ao toy than an everyday use thing. 05.56.57 # so i decided to take it off of my ipod. 05.57.01 # but 05.57.04 # heres the catch 05.57.08 # hold on one second 05.57.27 # i searched uninstall rockbox on google 05.57.33 # and the first result was this page: http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=12209 05.57.35 # so 05.57.37 # i did that 05.57.40 NJoin daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 05.57.41 # unplugged my ipod 05.57.44 # and now 05.57.55 NJoin secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@70.230.174.232) 05.57.57 # it wont go past the initial apple logo on a black background 05.58.02 NJoin ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 05.58.07 NJoin Slowking_Man [0] (i=slow@wikipedia/Slowking-Man) 05.58.10 # and it wont even show up on ym computer at all 05.58.14 # i have xp pro 05.58.31 # Did you update the ipod from itunes first? 05.58.36 # no. 05.58.48 # i just unplugged it after i deleted everythign rockbox 05.58.53 # *everything 05.59.16 # Well, the guy said to do that first, so that was step 1 wrong, but the bootloader should still dump you in the apple firmware 05.59.23 Quit courtc (Killed by douglas.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 05.59.23 Quit hax (Killed by douglas.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 05.59.24 NJoin x-spec-ting [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 05.59.24 NJoin courtc [0] (n=court@unaffiliated/courtc) 05.59.24 NJoin krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-128-88.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 05.59.24 NJoin andrewg867 [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162088144.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 05.59.24 NJoin hax [0] (n=hax@httpcraft/hax) 05.59.24 NJoin goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 05.59.24 NJoin tipi^_ [0] (i=pihlstro@lehtori.cc.tut.fi) 05.59.24 NJoin HEx [0] (i=HEx@213-228-241-143.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) 05.59.24 # If it can't find rockbox. 05.59.26 Join courtc_ [0] (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 05.59.26 Join hax_ [0] (n=hax@web.atl.citynetwireless.net) 05.59.58 Quit hax (SendQ exceeded) 06.00.11 # but i think it's looking for rockbox since i didnt do the update thing, and since i deleted the rockbox stuff it just sits there 06.00.17 Quit goffa_ (Connection reset by peer) 06.00.19 Join x-spec-t1ng [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 06.00.29 # So the black apple logo just sits there? 06.00.30 # and since it cant do anything it wont be recognized, even as a portable disk 06.00.30 Quit x-spec-ting (No route to host) 06.00.33 # yes 06.00.44 # Well it doesn't even sound like it's loading the rockbox bootloader... 06.00.53 # ive tried resetting it multiple times and it resets but does the same thing 06.01.01 # its not, i deleted it 06.01.11 # No, you didn't. 06.01.28 # The bootloader is hidden, doing the update would have removed it, but you didn't do that. 06.01.57 # but how can i do that if i cant recognize my ipod in the first place anymore? 06.02.07 # That's the trick isn't it? 06.02.15 # yeah. haha. 06.02.21 # is there any hope? 06.02.29 # Can you get it into disk mode at all? 06.02.35 # nope. 06.02.49 # I'm not too familiar with ipods so I'm kinda going on what I've heard... 06.03.09 Join kk [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-128-88.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 06.03.34 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 06.03.35 # Well, at the moment I can't really think of anything short of physically removing the hard drive and overwriting the bootloader... 06.03.46 # But you probably don't want to do that... 06.03.54 # well i have no warranty anymore 06.04.00 # so im not worried about voiding it 06.04.25 # how would i go about getting the ipod open though? 06.04.30 # There should hopefully be a more elegant solution, but I'm not too sure what that would be 06.05.43 # I don't think there's much point in getting the hdd, you'd need a ZIF 1.8" hard drive usb adaptor, and the only one I've ever seen is only sold in europe and it isn't cheap. 06.06.41 # http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes 06.06.42 # I think you should hang around and see if someone who knows a little more about this sort of thing comes on (perhaps Llorean, or linuxstb) 06.06.56 # im looking into that maybe 06.07.04 # i cn always boot linux from ausb key 06.07.07 Quit krazykit (Connection timed out) 06.07.07 # *can 06.07.14 # But that requires the ipod to be detected, which it isn't. 06.07.46 Quit courtc (Connection refused) 06.08.22 # well it says unmounted 06.08.53 # "Before you start make sure that the iPod's partitions are not mounted." 06.08.53 Quit andrewg867 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.09.09 # Yes, that just means that the disk is there in /dev but not in an accessible place in the filesystem 06.09.19 # isnt that what i have? an ipod that cant mount? 06.09.21 # oh 06.09.26 Quit tipi^_ (Connection timed out) 06.09.32 # see, i'm no linux expert. i have a tiny bit of experience but thats it 06.12.43 # i might actually have a manufacturers warranty. 06.12.57 # i doubt this is covered 06.13.00 # if i do 06.13.21 # would you think i can break it in another way and send it in? 06.13.23 # haha 06.13.43 # possibly not, but it wouldn't be immediately obvious that the ipod even ever had rockbox on it 06.14.12 # so you think i could just tell them it wont load up 06.14.28 # but wait around to see if someone knows anything about this sort of thing, you might not need to do anything like that 06.14.58 # well, i can wait for awhile, but it 9:15 here and i have work tomorrow 06.15.08 # *it's 06.16.23 # do either of the 2 people you mentioned come in semi-regularly? 06.16.29 # well, i don't think linuxstb will be around for a little while at least, he actually went to sleep ~5 hours ago 06.16.34 # ok 06.16.44 # But both are here quite regularly 06.17.00 # And those two people aren't the only ones who might be able to help you 06.17.10 # do you know whats up with llorean? 06.17.31 # Uh, he's usually here 24 hours a day somehow... 06.17.43 # weird. 06.17.47 # okay. 06.17.50 # But I think he's in the US. 06.18.42 Join lachlan_ [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aef554250598a1b6) 06.18.58 Quit lachlan_ (Client Quit) 06.19.34 Join lachlan_ [0] (i=cbce3551@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-831e53bb3a0146db) 06.20.58 Quit nvz1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.23.02 Quit oKtosiTe (Client Quit) 06.23.19 # if i copy pasted this conversation into the forums, do you think it would be okay? because i really have to go and i figure i might as well see if i get any responses overnight 06.24.41 # ? 06.24.50 # I think it might be a bit verbose, you could probably just explain your situation (removed .rockbox directory but not bootloader and now hangs before loading any bootloader - impossible to access disk mode to recover) 06.25.58 # okay, i will do that, but just in case i'll upload a text file to an external server adn link to that. im just gonan cover all the bases 06.26.14 # wait, actually this room is logged right? 06.26.23 # i can just reference the log with google cache 06.26.39 # you dont need to use the cache 06.26.46 # rockbox.org/irc 06.27.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20070516 06.27.26 # oh okay 06.27.30 # those times are links 06.27.32 # anchors 06.27.34 # alright 06.27.44 Join andrewg867 [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162088144.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 06.28.02 # no, but see i'm not there 06.28.13 # look for our conversation 06.28.39 # nvm 06.28.42 # found it i think 06.28.44 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20070517#05:54:18 06.29.22 # does that work for you? 06.33.25 # nevermind i got it 06.43.37 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 06.44.17 Part Br3nda ("Konversation terminated!") 06.48.18 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10553.msg80157#msg80157 06.48.20 # alright 06.48.22 # thanks 06.49.12 Join oKtosiTe [0] (n=oKtosiTe@unaffiliated/oKtosiTe) 06.49.19 Quit Josh_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 06.51.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.06.06 Part toffe82 07.18.01 Quit oKtosiTe (Client Quit) 07.25.29 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.30.07 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 07.32.54 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039ac0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9432c546fb6e390e) 07.33.10 # ffmpeg is really amazing 07.33.19 # the older build actually has more comments then the newer 07.33.34 # so at some point, someone went through some of the files and removed the function descriptions 07.49.38 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.57.15 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.59.12 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@ip50210.estcmp.ku.edu) 08.00.22 # JdGordon? 08.16.15 Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") 08.19.46 Quit bawb2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.26.08 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 08.27.34 # * JdGordon found his mSD card today after buyin a new one on tuesday :'( 08.28.10 # :/ 08.28.28 # and i tihnk i chucked the adapter out :'( 08.29.11 # dang 08.34.29 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 08.36.34 # JdGordon: micro or mini 08.36.45 Join br3nda|mobile [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 08.37.03 # micro 08.42.42 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 08.43.35 Quit ultraren () 08.47.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14F95.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.51.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.52.45 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.231.172) 08.58.49 # hat file extension should this get? 08.58.51 # $ file filename 08.58.51 # filename: MPEG ADTS, layer I, v1, Monaural 08.58.54 # what* 08.59.59 # mp1? 09.00.56 # Is it just audio? 09.03.41 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-5bd097dadae68fe6) 09.04.59 Nick br3nda|mobile is now known as Br3nda (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 09.05.14 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.05.40 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.07.56 Part Br3nda ("Konversation terminated!") 09.08.39 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B156D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.09.54 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.11.55 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 09.12.37 Part kaaloo 09.13.06 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.18.01 # aliask: yeah, just audio 09.18.26 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 09.19.28 # Then I think mp1 is the done thing 09.19.45 # Rockbox filetypes say mp1 as well... 09.19.55 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 09.20.41 # ok, I wonder if my phone will be able to play it :p 09.20.48 # * JdGordon tring to get a ringtone for mum 09.21.27 # Could always transcode - it's not like you need to worry about quality :P 09.22.36 Quit lachlan_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.22.56 # yea, looks like ill have to 09.22.58 # bbl 09.38.18 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.43.21 Join Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 09.44.37 Quit joa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.44.48 Join joa [0] (n=joe@cpc4-ipsw1-0-0-cust960.colc.cable.ntl.com) 09.49.04 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 09.57.35 Join DarthShr1ne [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 09.58.43 Quit DarthShrine (Nick collision from services.) 09.58.48 Nick DarthShr1ne is now known as DarthShrine (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 10.04.13 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 10.10.52 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 10.14.11 Join nls [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 10.16.11 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 10.20.49 Join Siltaar [0] (n=Siltaar@reverse-52.fdn.fr) 10.28.07 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.31.11 Quit hcs (Remote closed the connection) 10.37.49 Join DarthShr1ne [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 10.38.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.38.46 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6669.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.39.01 Quit DarthShrine (Nick collision from services.) 10.39.06 Nick DarthShr1ne is now known as DarthShrine (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 10.42.26 # for those Rio Karma users is here with broken HDDs: http://dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.3957 10.48.44 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 10.49.12 Quit bospaadje (Client Quit) 10.49.44 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 10.52.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.54.43 Join rift_ [0] (n=opera@118.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net) 10.55.38 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.57.36 # about my GSoC 'student': "My commencement is june 10th a few days before that I should defend so then I will be totally available for GSoC" 10.58.05 # did he say anything else about devcon-w? 10.58.44 # no 10.58.52 # but I didn't ask him anymore 11.00.33 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host155-218-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.02.00 Join _kch_ [0] (n=kch@175.Red-80-37-138.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 11.02.06 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 11.02.39 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 11.08.54 # so finally, he chose Rockbox 11.09.47 # Siltaar: who did? 11.10.02 # your GSoC :-) 11.10.13 # GSoC 'Student' 11.10.17 # ah, yes 11.10.33 # well, I believe there was no slot for him at the other project anyway 11.12.45 # Else, I found talk_file function that seems perfect form my project 11.13.28 # I will have to make a french version of the talking sudoku to « defend » it, but then, I try to have the english version commited 11.14.05 # I will also make a talking 'unminer' game 11.14.20 # and perhaps one more 'till september 11.16.07 # Does anyone actually play games on their DAP? 11.16.11 # Unminer game? 11.16.14 # For the integration of the game, I think about make a preference in Sudoku plugin to choose wether we want it talking or not, and, if so, the user will have to add the required Sudoku .mp3 files... 11.16.31 # intgr: Plenty 11.16.56 # intgr: I do 11.16.57 # intgr,don't know don't care, 11.17.08 # intgr, blind poeple will be able to ! 11.17.14 # :) 11.17.20 # Siltaar: There is a drawback in using individual .mp3 files for voice in plugins. Each call to talk_file() causes a disk spinup, and there's a lot of clutter on the disk if you have many clips 11.17.52 # One goal of langv2 was to eventually extend the voice UI to plugins, so that talking plugins would have their own voice file 11.17.54 # aliask, in French it's « démineur » 11.18.16 # amiconn, would be perfect 11.18.24 # This would be loaded at plugin start, and wouldn't cause any subsequent spinups 11.18.45 # Démineur is minesweeper. 11.18.50 Join bluebrother [0] (i=lgimQgcv@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 11.18.52 # yes, thanks ! 11.18.59 # Aha! Cool 11.19.11 # This would be in conjunction with the ability to localize the plugin strings 11.19.35 # amiconn, I will be evaluated in 3 weeks upon a working thing 11.20.08 # amiconn, then, if something like langv2 is working before september, I will adapt my code for sure 11.21.58 # and maybe I will be able to help in making langv2 working 11.22.00 # If we get langv2 for plugins running including voice, voicing menus in plugins would become really simple 11.22.11 # yes 11.22.12 # No different to voicingm menus in the core 11.22.30 # amiconn: btw, if you ever come around to a ground loop problem an audio isolator works adequately. It solved the problem in my car 11.22.50 # and cheap solution too, only 6 euros 11.22.59 # I know that an isolating transformer will help, but it also degrades audio quality a bit 11.23.04 # I looked a bit on the site for langv2 files, but, it's just about the current way to make languages.lng files 11.23.17 # amiconn: well yes, but you don't have a choice 11.23.30 # * amiconn will rather run his rockboxes from battery than going the isolating transformer route 11.23.57 # Siltaar: Yes, langv2 is prepared, but only used in the core yet 11.24.10 # also I don't think I would notice the difference with the crapy speakers my car has 11.24.11 # ok, and what are we missing ? 11.24.24 # In order to extend it to plugins, we need some kind of 'user' flag for LANG IDs 11.24.57 # And we need a somewhat more sophisticated way of loading voice and .lng files 11.25.36 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp129-181.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) 11.26.00 # Another use for langv2 will be to cut down .lng and .voice files to what is actually used on a target (i.e. target specific voice and .lng files) 11.26.18 # amiconn, the 1.4MO limitation also appears to me as something to improve 11.26.21 # There's a patch in the tracker, but it needs a bit more preparation (.lng and .voice loader) 11.26.45 # On targets with plenty of ram there is no 1.4MB limit 11.27.00 # But for the archoses the 1.4MB cannot be extended 11.27.29 # The archoses only have 2MB ram in total, and the core, plugin etc also need some ram... 11.27.47 # using the ui-simulator for iPod Video, I had the limitation 11.28.07 # It's even nearer 1.3MB these days (except for the 2 targets where rombox is still possible) 11.28.19 # amiconn: a strange effect that I get is that the car-charger to USB cable will make my ondio run into usb mode fine, but when I try to hold mode + power to boot rockbox an error pops out saying that there is no partition! 11.28.32 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 11.28.37 # as an alternative I just cut the data lines of the USB cable 11.28.59 # it just seems weird why I get that behaviour, considering that it works correctly with normal USB ports 11.30.36 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@102.56.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 11.31.43 # Hello 11.31.48 # hi The-Compiler 11.37.04 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@84.150.68.226) 11.38.33 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 11.40.09 # amiconn: which version of binutils are you using? 11.40.33 Quit BillGod (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.41.30 Join BillGod [0] (n=me@user-12l372l.cable.mindspring.com) 11.43.44 # obo: On my debian-unstable-amd64 I now have 2.17cvs20070426-6, which seems to be fixed 11.44.59 # amiconn: do you think there's any point in trying to get rockbox to build with the newly released gcc4.2? 11.47.33 # amiconn: weird, same version on plain x86 still segfaults for me 11.49.42 Part maffe 11.49.52 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-55-130.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.50.45 # hi 11.51.11 # i get a "relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 against `.text'" 11.51.29 # when compiling with the ipodlinux arm-uclinux-emf 11.51.32 # elf 11.51.38 # is it normal? 11.52.10 # i mean gcc-3.4.3 is not working anymore for rockbox? 11.53.03 # for arm you need to use 4.0.3 11.53.12 # I don't believe the arm-uclinux-elf toolchain ever worked with Rockbox... 11.53.58 # linuxstb yes it has worked 11.54.03 # I used to use it 11.54.05 # the tools/rockboxdev.sh script will download and compile the recommended versions... 11.54.24 # i want to make .deb package of that 11.54.34 # pepie34: OK, in which case you need to do what obo says and use the recommended 4.0.3 11.54.42 # OK 12.00.36 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 12.01.33 # sansa fm tuner driver now has the ability to tune....somewhat 12.02.48 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 12.03.25 Part kaaloo 12.03.34 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 12.05.32 Join tholin [0] (n=tholin@85.8.6.155.se.wasadata.net) 12.06.23 # congrats zivan56 12.06.59 # JdGordon, thanks 12.07.34 # its a kind of brute for tuning for now, as I can't really understand the datasheet in detail 12.07.45 # but its a start :) 12.09.13 # it is up as FS7178 if anybody is interested... 12.10.52 Part rift_ 12.13.27 Quit himitsu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.14.13 Quit zivan56 ("night") 12.17.44 # ...ooh a new one of Colombo in the forums... 12.18.54 # him and X86 sure make the forums a fun place at times :) 12.19.38 # although, X86 is mostly because he has bad english... not him being stupid like colombo 12.20.09 # it gets annoying though 12.20.25 # i know he means well, but...ehhhh.. 12.20.52 # Hahaha "Lame SVN fixes..." 12.21.04 # Colombo, X86, and for some reason that "gnu" guy tends to get my goat as well 12.22.15 # columbo just makes me laugh 12.22.22 # s/u/o 12.22.49 # * pixelma was reminded of the "detective"... ;) 12.23.14 # more fun ... :D 12.23.35 # i think we should send a PM to X86 with something along the lines of "i know you are trying to help, etc, but it just isnt helping much..." 12.23.53 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.26.08 # lol bluebrother 12.26.12 Part maffe 12.27.55 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.28.11 # I always wanted to create a feature request for such a plugin. Maybe I should do (and reject it myself directly afterwards? ;-) 12.29.37 # Aren't there USB coffee makers? 12.30.52 # only toasters... 12.31.08 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 12.31.08 # bugger, my dads sansa doesnt have the lcd glitch :( 12.33.40 # * scorche would rather his ipod made a latte rather than expresso 12.37.10 # JdGordon: I take it that "USB toaster" means "toaster of the USB controller chip"? 12.38.02 # devcon is tomorrow....my how time flies 12.38.04 # no.. bread toaster :p 12.38.46 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-43a5a862b34793a8) 12.38.47 # JdGordon: Well, considering the power drawn by a toaster, it will probably toast the chipset quicker. :) 12.39.24 # yah 12.39.33 # * JdGordon bash skills suck... 12.39.49 # how do i extract every .zip in a folder to /media/usb ? 12.40.01 # cd /media/usb; unzip $FILENAME 12.40.11 # Ahh 12.40.25 # cd /media/usb; for i in /path/to/*.zip; do unzip $i; done 12.40.44 Quit DarthShrine ("Leaving") 12.40.51 # for i in *.zip; do unzip -d /media/usb $i; done 12.40.55 # Oh, does that work? Don't you have to fo for i in `ls /path/to/*.zip`; ? 12.41.06 # simmel: Yeah, that works. 12.41.16 # What do you know, you learn something new every day! = P 12.41.34 # cheers 12.41.46 # you don't even need to cd first if you use unzip -d ;-) 12.44.36 # hmm... seems there is a new OF version we need to look after in the anti-refresh-database-hack code 12.44.47 # and use "$i" in case you have spaces in your filenames 12.49.16 # * JdGordon wonders if barrywardell is hiding under some other nick :p 12.50.45 Part maffe 12.50.57 # ^ suspicious! 12.50.57 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 12.51.13 Part maffe 12.51.37 # :) 12.51.49 # maybe he hides as logbot ;-) 12.52.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.52.32 # * scorche shields logbot_ from future abuse 12.54.35 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 12.55.30 # woohoo :) i found the patch from the logs 12.56.05 # well, i was doing a bit more searching on voice conference for devcon-w, and skype seems to be the only thing really, unless i wanted to start up an asterisk server, sadly 12.57.22 # i saw others that ran on the three main platforms (mac, windows, linux), but either they didnt support large conferences, or you had to have odd workarounds that didnt really work 12.57.39 # reminds me ... any news regarding devcon? Some skype-tingy planned or not? 12.58.00 # i was going to ask, but i dont see Bagder active 12.58.33 # as i said, i am planning on doing a skype conference or skypecast for devcon-w, but devcon-euro isnt my thing =/ 12.58.46 # what's a skypecast? 12.59.04 # a conference planned in advance that can support a LARGE amount of people 12.59.14 # in beta, apparently 12.59.33 # * scorche sighs at "web 2.0" 12.59.43 # ah. I use skype rarely 12.59.45 # so pervasive now-a-days =/ 13.04.01 # What is devcon-w? 13.04.14 # * scorche points to the topic 13.04.46 # Oh, "west". 13.10.53 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.12.44 # ok, this is bloody wierd.... my dads sansa ignores all keypresses in the bootloader using svn code! 13.13.16 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@ip50210.estcmp.ku.edu) 13.14.02 # * JdGordon slaps jhMikeS around with a large trout 13.14.12 # dan_a: you round? 13.15.58 Quit bawb2 (Remote closed the connection) 13.16.20 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.98.70) 13.18.03 # regarding the skype idea, I guess we can do it if it works and someone works out the details 13.19.04 Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@ip50210.estcmp.ku.edu) 13.19.09 # national holiday today, I'll bb tonight 13.20.40 # alright...i will speak to you later about it then 13.21.38 # * scorche can likely host and if we go over 10 people, make a skypecast 13.28.12 # hmm... its not a good idea copying a 10% downloaded mi4 onto the dap :p 13.30.27 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 13.30.31 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@gifn3.fpl.com) 13.30.40 Part kaaloo 13.30.51 Quit Br3nda (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.32.00 # does the gigabeat build handle usb or do you have to use the original firmware 13.32.22 # It handles USB. 13.32.43 # so there is not need for the original firmware 13.33.16 # depends which "bit" of the original firmware you mean 13.33.18 # We still use the bootloader (in flash ROM) of the original firmware, so it needs some files to exist on the disk in order for it to think its loading the original firmware. 13.34.19 Join raphi [0] (n=Raphi@pub082136121134.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) 13.34.22 # I was thinking of getting one 13.34.31 # I need more space 13.34.34 # talking of which, anyone know if toffe's made any progress on nuking the contents of the flashrom and replacing it with something we actually like? :) 13.36.12 # is the sound better or equal to the original firmware 13.36.58 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 13.37.00 Quit BillGod ("CYA") 13.37.49 # no idea - I never used the original firmware 13.38.02 # Rockbox is all the firmware I've ever wanted 13.39.08 # jac0b: I think I've read people say it's the same, or maybe even better than the OF. But like GodEater, I've never used the OF 13.39.38 # okay thanks for all the help 13.40.03 Quit jac0b ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 13.43.48 Join Guile` [0] (n=Guile@88-136-13-114.adslgp.cegetel.net) 13.44.18 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host225-229-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.48.48 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 13.51.47 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.52.56 Part raphi 13.58.57 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.01.00 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 14.01.28 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 14.03.25 Join mykl [0] (i=c74048fc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e6d5c2cf975f1753) 14.03.37 # hi guys 14.04.23 # plz, when I plug my rockbox ipod to USB, it reboots to apple disk mode , how to prevent this, if possible? thx! 14.04.53 # Hold the MENU button as you insert the cable. 14.05.12 # have to try, thank You :-) 14.05.58 # and another issue - after running some plugin, screen backlight turns off and never lights again :( 14.06.23 # Which plugin(s) ? 14.06.26 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.06.35 # And what are your backlight settings? 14.07.30 # I've tried it with allways on or either 10s timeout or what ever 14.08.31 # If I run for example doom game, backlight switches off and aslo after I wuit to main menu, it will never switch on again... I have to reboot rockbox 14.09.12 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@gifn3.fpl.com) 14.09.17 # Are you running the official Rockbox build, or a patched version? 14.09.31 # (and which ipod?) 14.09.57 # I've tried it with latest oficial version and with some COP patched too... I'm running 30GB ipod Video 14.10.25 Join jonah [0] (n=jonah@84.13.96.218) 14.10.52 # hey guys, just updated my rockbox on ipod 4th gen and now my scroll wheel won't work 14.11.04 # I do not use bootmanager, I run rockbox from first partition replaced original apple fw... I think problem is in this... 14.11.31 # because when I run latest rockbox version, backlight does not switch on during booting... 14.11.48 # I have to wait to timeout and then it turns on after keypressed 14.12.03 # i am trying to use the mediacoder but I don't see the folder for the extenstions 14.12.27 # jonah> are you sure about using right build ? 14.12.43 # mykl, well yeah i just put todays current build on there... 14.13.11 # mykl, i always update every couple of week and just drag latest version on, things have been getting better cept for today 14.13.24 # mykl: Yes, I've experienced backlight problems when not using a bootloader. But once the timeout value kicks in, then it starts working again. 14.14.33 # jonah: What exactly do you mean by "scroll wheel won't work" ? Do any buttons work? Maybe Rockbox just freezes. 14.15.02 Quit jac0b ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 14.15.07 # linuxstb, yeah all the buttons work left/right,middle,play etc but i can't scroll with the click wheel 14.15.40 # linuxstb, so i can even press play to resume and it'll play whatever song is there but cos i can't scroll i can't get to much else 14.15.45 # I haven't seen anyone report that before. If you put an older version of Rockbox back on, does it work again? 14.16.10 # linuxstb, which version should i try, i'm not sure where to find it or what day's build i should use 14.17.05 # linuxstb > back to the USB > it works, but 1/ it charges although I have USB charging off in menu and 2/ i'm not able mount it as sda device in this time 14.17.10 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.17.34 # jonah > http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod4gray 14.17.45 # mykl: It's expected that you can't mount it - you have prevented the ipod entering disk mode... 14.18.29 # linuxstb... I C... well I ment... I need mount ipod without rebooting to apple disk mode if possible ? 14.18.39 # mykl: And that USB charging option doesn't do anything on ipods. 14.19.00 Part TrueJournals 14.19.02 # okay 14.19.39 # mykl: Then the answer is no - Rockbox doesn't have it's own disk mode implementation, but even if it did, it would take over the ipod entirely and you wouldn't be able to continue using Rockbox. 14.19.54 # linuxstb > how about RoLo ipod disk mode ? 14.20.26 # That's not working reliably, but the effect would be the same - it would run the disk mode application. 14.20.52 # okay.. thx for explanation... now it;s clear to me... 14.21.08 # What do you want to prevent? The reboot itself, or the fact that you can't continue to use Rockbox when in disk mode? 14.22.12 # btw is it bug? after running recording I am not able play any song.... after pressing play buttom song appers to be played, but it does not exacty.... 14.22.25 # Yes, that's a known problem with the ipod recording code. 14.23.13 # I want to prevent rebboting my ipod on every file transfer... but it seems not to be possible 14.23.59 # last lame question... does latest official build support coprocessor use ? (COP patch) 14.25.46 # anyway, guys, rockbox is pretty nice stuff, I like it :-) 14.25.55 Quit SirFunk (Remote closed the connection) 14.26.34 # mykl: The COP patch has been in SVN for a few months. It's only used by mpegplayer at the moment though. 14.26.44 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-253-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.26.51 # i booted into apple firmware and scroll wheel not working there either, so looks like it's busted?? 14.27.18 # jonah: It would seem so. As I said, I've never heard anyone else report that issue in Rockbox. 14.27.33 # I know, I've tried some mpeg files anf it's quite slow.... it does not support boardcom codec yet ... maybe later :) 14.28.09 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 14.28.16 # jonah: try to upload new firmware maybe it will help ? 14.28.29 # jonah: try to upload new firmware maybe it will help ? 14.28.54 # mykl, upload new firmware? 14.28.58 # jonah > you can find it here: http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ 14.29.35 # mykl, what is it? the new apple firmware? 14.30.01 # mykl, i've got 4g greyscale, how do i know which one it is? there are a couple... and also what do i do with it? 14.30.04 # mykl: If you can convince broadcom to hand out the chip docs, then it will perhaps be supported one day 14.31.14 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.31.26 # jonah > choose one with the highest number for 4G it is 10.3.1.1 14.31.36 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.32.13 # amiconn > yup, I underestand... :-/ 14.32.17 # mykl, ok downloaded that but i'm on linux, how do i use it... 14.32.41 Part pixelma 14.33.34 # does anyone know if we can open a file on an external card without knowing the volume "name"? (i.e without /) ? 14.34.24 # you can use ipodflasher to do it 14.35.04 # JdGordon: ? 14.35.33 # In rockbox you always need the absolute path to open a file. The "mount point" is part of it 14.35.42 # mykl, where is ipod flasher found for ubuntu? 14.35.44 # jonah: unzip the .ipsw file, then "dd" the Firmware-X.Y.Z file to the first partition (e.g. /dev/sda1 if your ipod is /dev/sda). 14.35.53 # so we cant open it relative to a volume number? 14.36.07 # nope 14.36.10 # jonah: Your ipod will then prompt you to connect the charger whilst it reflashes - make sure you do, and don't interrupt that process. 14.36.14 # jonah > linux version is here http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/linux32x86/ipodpatcher 14.36.30 # linuxstb, ah ok 14.36.35 # JdGordon: Why would you want to do that? 14.36.42 # yup, allso possible use dd command :) 14.37.11 # Besides, the name is easily derived from the volume number, as the string format is a runtime constant 14.37.18 # (defined at compile time) 14.37.37 # amiconn: trying to give cards individual id's and use tha id for the volume name 14.37.47 # Wasn't there a suggestion to display the volume name instead ? 14.37.50 # unless we can get the id from the card hardware instead of a file 14.37.54 # ^instead of 14.38.24 # didnt we decide usin the actual volume name could lead to duplicates? 14.38.30 # JdGordon: The idea was to use a volume id for the database. For file display I would keep the current method 14.39.09 # We might show the volume name if it's present, but internally we should keep the generic name. Otherwise paths would break if the volume is renamed 14.39.30 # either way.. the strings are in dir.c so they would need to be moved somehwere else... unless we put a char* get_volume_name() in dir.c? 14.39.32 # And a fixed volume name helps creating playlists on the PC. 14.39.51 # ok, that makes sense 14.40.05 # linuxstb: please, is there any easy way how to find out, if I have 5G or 5.5G ipod version ? 14.40.20 # linuxstb, hi i'm a bit stuck can you guide me how to dd it back on to ipod? i think my ipod is sdf 14.40.24 # mykl: What sector size does ipodpatcher report? 14.40.30 # Id like t be able to open //.rbcardid on an insert 14.40.42 # linuxstb, will this destroy all my music and rockbox stuff? 14.41.04 # jonah: "dd if=Firmware-X.Y.Z of=/dev/sdf1" If you type "fdisk -l /dev/sdf" then that will show you the partition table to help you make sure it's the right device. 14.41.12 # dd if=file of=/dev/sda1 14.41.16 # jonah: No, all your music is on /dev/sdf2 14.42.30 # linuxstb: it says 2048bytes 14.43.03 # Then it's a 5.5g. Although I'm not sure what (if any) hardware differences there are. 14.43.06 # jonah > nop it destroys just bootmanager (if any) and rockbox loader 14.43.07 # linuxstb, ok it says it's copied it 14.43.26 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.43.52 # linuxstb > it should be, because different firmwares from apple released for 5 and 5.5G 14.43.57 # jonah: OK, make sure you can't still see a disk activity icon on your ipod's screen, and if so, unplug it. 14.44.10 # :) 14.44.14 # mykl: But apart from the different sector size, the same Rockbox works on both... 14.44.19 # how about some rmmod usb-storage ? :) 14.45.00 # linuxstb > Yup, you are right :P 14.45.08 # linuxstb, ok it asked for charger as you said so i've plugged it in 14.45.41 # linuxstb, and it's on, but again scroll wheel not working... 14.45.58 # jonah > so it seems to be hardware error 14.46.18 # maybe cold joint on connector stuf ? 14.46.33 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 14.46.47 # sorry for my english anyway :))) 14.47.45 # WOW it's working, i just flicked the hold on and off again and it started scrolling!!! 14.48.16 # great 14.48.39 # now try it with new rockbox and I'm pretty sure it will work too 14.49.34 # how do i get rock box on now!! 14.50.14 # jonah > download ipodpatcher I've send You the link first 14.50.46 # then You it to install bootmanager or rockbox .. as You want... 14.51.06 # ^use 14.51.19 # mykl, ok got that, can you guide me how to use it... what do i do? 14.52.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.52.32 # jonah > follow this link please 14.52.51 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod4gray.pdf 14.53.10 Part TrueJournals 14.53.38 # hope You've got some xpdf viewer or what... if not, it's also html version :) 14.54.09 # page 14 says how to install it under linux 14.57.03 # mykl, but if i still have rockbox on my ipod not sure which bit i need to do 14.57.26 # jonah: Just the bootloader step - i.e. download ipodpatcher, run it and select "i" for install. 14.57.43 # yup 14.58.10 # run ipodpatcher without any parameter and then press i key and enter.. that's all 15.00.23 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5d881@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8cc4c040f84f9a16) 15.00.54 Quit kaaloo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.01.44 # jonah: Someone with the exact opposite problem to you - maybe combine ipods? :) http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10558.0 15.02.11 # linuxstb : thanks for Your time answering my stupid qest :) got to go... have a great day! 15.02.26 # lol 15.03.32 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 15.04.51 # haha thanks 15.04.56 # What's the << button on iPod pads special name (in #defines) 15.05.22 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.06.21 # Just BUTTON_LEFT 15.06.41 # There's LEFT, RIGHT, MENU and PLAY 15.07.06 # Oh, oops. And SCROLL_BACK/FORWARDS 15.07.24 # FWD... 15.08.26 # Oh, by the way linuxstb do you know any reason recently when people have removed .rockbox, the bootloader fails to boot the OF? 15.09.57 # I think the decision was made to display an error message when .rockbox isn't found (so users know why Rockbox isn't booting), rather than just silently starting the OF. But from reports, it sounds like that message isn't being displayed... 15.10.56 # Is there a way to get it to boot the OF? 15.11.11 # Turn the hold switch on 15.11.54 # (immediately after resetting your ipod) 15.12.36 # Oh so that still works. I was thinking we might have some hard to recover iPods appearing... 15.12.41 # well, I got .b_cardid working.. but in tree.c so its not perfect 15.12.49 # .rb_cardid* 15.15.35 # aliask: No, ipods are never hard to recover. 15.17.14 Quit jonah ("Ex-Chat") 15.17.39 # Never? Even if you overwrite the harddrive partition? 15.17.50 # aliask > you can always put Your ipod to disk mode and do anything with it 15.18.08 # Is that in flash or something? 15.18.37 # yup, ipod has own flash that does not change installing rockbox or bootloader or anything 15.18.51 # Very handy 15.19.15 # the rest of firmware is stored on first partition of hd 15.21.29 # anybody knows why the firmware partition on ipod is so big? less then 50% is used.... can I shrink it or does it have affect something ? 15.23.08 # the rest is used for hibernation isnt it? 15.23.16 # linuxstb: your checkwps patch is looks nice :) 15.23.35 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.25.59 # I c... thx 15.27.39 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 15.29.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.29.42 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-253-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.30.52 Part maffe 15.31.22 # linuxstb: can I run several rockbox versions using loader2.4 bootloader ? it would be possible, woudn;t it? :) 15.33.26 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 15.34.45 Join iluva [0] (i=50eecff2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5896d88051a47c8d) 15.34.48 # Should I bother reporting trivial bugs in rbutil? 15.34.51 # mykl: Yes. But unless they can share the same .rockbox folder (same version of plugins and codecs, same config.cfg file etc) you'll need to make the different Rockbox versions look for differently named ".rockbxo" folders. 15.35.14 # intgr: Yes, I think so. We want to get rbutil released... 15.35.27 # linuxstb: Ok. 15.35.56 # hello everyone 15.36.08 # i think i could need some help :D 15.36.34 # i installed rockbox on my ipod 5th gen and it worked like a charm 15.36.48 # but now, 2 days after i cant boot my ipod anymore 15.37.07 # Tried charging it? 15.37.12 # and when i connect USB it wont show the disk anymore, not does the ipod boot 15.37.30 # sadly i just have the usb charger 15.37.55 # Plug the cable in, and then press and hold MENU+SELECT for about 30 seconds. If that doesn't turn the ipod on, just wait and try again. 15.38.05 # And also make sure the hold switch is off... 15.38.18 # ok i'll try :D thx 15.38.40 Join olle_ [0] (n=olle@h16n1fls34o836.telia.com) 15.41.50 # but isn't it weird that when i connect the ipod it doens't come up even in the syslogs? 15.42.24 # No, not if the ipod isn't talking - i.e. it isn't in disk mode. 15.42.45 # The USB is implemented in software on the ipods 15.43.04 # eah, makes sense 15.43.53 # Does it show up in lsusb? 15.44.17 # no 15.44.28 # aliask: nice patch ! :) 15.46.12 # Nico_P: Do you think checkwps is a useful tool, or will people just use the sim? 15.46.22 # perhaps i try to organize a power charcher, 'cos it doesn't charge by usb @ the moment 15.46.50 # linuxstb: I think it's useful...a ctually I had thought of doing something similar 15.46.59 # bah, didn't notice aliask is out, I spoke about this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7180 15.47.20 # linuxstb: it's nicer than to use the sim 15.48.02 # Nico_P: BTW, did you notice the three functions I moved to wps_parser.c ? Do you think that makes sense? 15.48.39 # It seems to be a general problem in the apps/ code that files are not modular - i.e. everything seems to rely on everything else... 15.48.47 # yes I saw that... they're not used in the parser are they ? but you wanted to avoid having to link with gwps-common.c ? 15.49.17 # They must be used somewhere, as gcc complained about at least the last one being missing. 15.49.32 # So I thought it made sense to move all three, rather than just the one I needed. 15.49.33 # thx a lot linuxstb, it reworks right now, it was fully discharged 15.49.35 # well at one point the parser was perfectly separate from the rest, but its' not really the case anymore 15.50.00 Part TrueJournals 15.51.29 # ah right, wps_last_token_index is used in wps_debug.c 15.54.03 # I didn't really look into the details of what the code was doing - so if you want to try and make my patch better, please do. 15.54.46 # I'll try to have a look but I doubt I'll have time for that today 15.55.26 # int main(int argc, char* argv[]) 15.55.26 # { 15.55.26 # //vars 15.55.26 DBUG Enqueued KICK olle_ 15.55.26 # char codes[5][255][255]; 15.55.26 # char codenum[5][255]; 15.55.27 *** Alert Mode level 1 15.55.27 # int count[5][255][255]; 15.55.29 # char key[5][255]; 15.55.31 # 15.55.33 # //buffers 15.55.35 # char plain[256]; 15.55.37 # char crypt[256]; 15.55.39 # 15.55.41 # int blocksum,blockcheck,sum,check; 15.55.43 # int type,num,codeone,c,numone; 15.55.45 # int hasread=0; 15.55.46 # olle_: Please stop that... 15.55.46 # err, please use pastebin 15.55.47 # 15.55.49 # if(argc<3) { 15.55.51 # printf("checksummer: error: not enough arguments\nUsage: ./checksummer plain_file encrypted_file\n"); 15.55.53 # return 1; 15.55.55 # } 15.55.57 # printf("using plain file: %s\n",argv[1]); 15.55.59 # printf("using encrypted file: %s\n",argv[2]); 15.56.01 # FILE* decf=fopen(argv[1],"rb"); 15.56.03 # if(decf==0) { 15.56.05 # printf("error opening plain file\n"); 15.56.06 # ... 15.56.07 # return 1; 15.56.09 # } 15.56.11 # FILE* encf=fopen(argv[2],"rb"); 15.56.13 # if(encf==0) { 15.56.15 # printf("error opening encrypted file\n"); 15.56.17 # return 1; 15.56.19 # } 15.56.20 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.56.20 # * linuxstb pings amiconn, scorche, preglow, Llorean, (any op....) 15.56.21 # printf("Collecting information...\n"); 15.56.23 # printf("getc decf %d getc encf %d ",getc(decf),getc(encf)); 15.56.25 # //read files 15.56.27 # while((fread(plain,1,250,decf)==250) && (fread(crypt,1,256,encf)==256)){ 15.56.29 # printf("block"); 15.56.31 # hasread=1; 15.56.35 # oops 15.56.41 # so sorry 15.56.43 # i'm sorry, it was a mistake 15.58.10 # oh I had forgotten that we are soon going to have a devcon :) 15.58.50 # Yes, let's hope nothing silly happens like someone suggesting we make a release... :) 15.58.59 # haha 15.59.01 # hahaha XD 15.59.04 # linuxstb: I'll do my best to prevent that :) 15.59.08 # hi moos btw :) 15.59.14 # salute 15.59.26 # :) gtg too... God bless 15.59.29 Part mykl 16.05.28 *** Alert Mode OFF 16.16.51 Quit Viljar`zZ ("Whoops..") 16.18.09 # linuxstb: waht 16.18.16 # oh... 16.19.21 # what i like about irssi is it asking you before spamming more than 5 lines to any channel 16.19.30 # now, if only everybody would use irssi... 16.20.18 # Too bad it's a hack though. 16.20.20 # preglow: Sorry to disturb you... 16.21.07 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c87d9c1cd52eb608) 16.21.51 # linuxstb: Oddly enough, I don't have ops here 16.22.32 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-075-177-158-190.nc.res.rr.com) 16.22.45 # Llorean: OK, I thought everyone apart from me did... 16.23.01 # * linuxstb wouldn't know how to use them anyway 16.23.03 Quit olle_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.23.28 # Same here, pretty much 16.30.58 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@admin-147-222.potsdam.edu) 16.31.50 # Konversation also asks before sending the content of the paperclip when it has several lines 16.32.27 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 16.33.30 Join mpeccorini [0] (n=mpeccori@mail1.theargusgroup.us) 16.36.36 # <_kch_> hi, an "easy question". How can I start a random play? I mean, like I can do with the apple FW when 16.37.02 # _kch_: The channel guidelines ask that you read the manual first. 16.37.06 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 16.37.44 # <_kch_> thanks Llorean 16.38.17 # Llorean: while I understand the policy, is it ok if I answer the question? 16.38.37 # I can't stop you. ;) 16.38.54 # you can ban/kick me I assume hahahaha 16.39.32 # _kch_: you should go to settings->general settings->playback->shuffle and select "on" 16.39.54 # The quick menu is easier. 16.40.01 # which is? 16.40.10 # From most screens, just hold down the menu button, and you'll get a "Quick" menu, which lets you change Shuffle, Repeat, and File View settings easily 16.41.03 # will that leave the setting enabled after you shutdown the juke box? 16.41.09 # Yes 16.41.14 # good, thanks 16.41.17 # It's just like changing it through the normal menus, it's just a shortcut 16.41.40 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-ddc00d53baf9b284) 16.42.06 # <_kch_> yes, but if I put shuffle on, if I press FWD while playing it don't swith to a new song 16.42.18 # sure it does ! 16.42.35 # you can also use "insert shuffled" from the context menu on a file / folder 16.42.59 # _kch_: You need to have more than one song in your playlist for it to be useful, of course 16.43.08 # "shuffle" only shuffles the playlist, it does not shuffle other songs on the player (like other firmwares do) 16.43.16 # <_kch_> I do no have a playlist, only the dinamic one 16.43.28 # The dynamic one will work 16.43.37 # if you want a similar behaviour you can create a root playlist containing all files on the player and shuffle this 16.43.59 # but the dynamic playlist works exactly like saved playlists, it's just not a saved playlist ;-) 16.46.07 Join Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 16.46.39 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.48.12 # bluebrother: I have a dilemma about a patch for chessbox 16.48.45 # I'm planning to write a whole lot of functions for it to become a viewer, load/store games in PGN, have a menu, etc, etc 16.49.02 # if that's the case, should I still make one patch for every single feature? 16.50.09 # I have made a patch for storing PGN files only, but linuxstb suggested the viewer idea (taken from the sudoku plugin) and I think it's a great idea ! 16.50.36 # They should be split somewhat 16.50.54 # PGN support could include the viewer association for .pgn files, so that could all be one 16.51.00 # But the menu should be a separate patch probably 16.51.33 # the proble is I don't have more button mappings available, so I need a menu 16.52.01 # perhaps making a menu first would make sense even though it wouldn't have new features 16.52.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.52.10 # what do you think? 16.52.12 # Makes sense to me at least. 16.52.22 # ok, good 16.52.22 # Most plugin menus started out small and then grew... 16.52.34 # I'm kinda surprised Chessbox doesn't have one already 16.52.36 # Hi linuxstb 16.52.40 # hi 16.52.46 # I read your comment on the patch and the idea is wonderful ! 16.52.49 # <_kch_> thanks to all 16.52.59 # no problem _kch_ 16.53.40 # well, according to a comment in the source code, Miguel Arevalo doesn't like config screens ;) 16.54.15 # I'm going to respect his decision by not calling the menu when the plugin is started 16.54.28 # but I'll change the "quit" mapping so it calls the menu instead 16.54.49 # mpeccorini: Some devices probably have enough buttons for both a menu and a quit button 16.55.05 # probably, but mine doesn't :( 16.55.24 # I'm glad to contribute, but I want to use the feature myself hahahahahahaha 16.55.38 # I'm just saying there is no need to remove the quit button everywhere - just on targets with a button shortage 16.55.47 # Ohh, I see 16.56.06 # well, that's why I posted in the mailing list asking about the button mappings for other targets. 16.56.37 # I've had some feedback and I'll make sure it works as smooth as possible in all the targets 16.57.12 # Jonathan Gordon pointed out there are "generic" mappings in a pluginlib_actions.h file and I'm planning to use them 16.57.28 # All you need to do is put "#ifdef CB_QUIT" around the code to handle the quit button, and not define it for some targets. 16.58.51 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 17.00.35 # I will 17.05.19 Quit kaaloo ("Leaving.") 17.05.19 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.12.14 Quit Siltaar (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.12.21 Join Siltaar [0] (n=Siltaar@reverse-52.fdn.fr) 17.16.39 Quit iluva ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.16.42 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 17.28.31 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC") 17.33.13 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.222.5) 17.39.14 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.39.14 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.39.28 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.41.31 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 17.42.25 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@host-64-234-28-85.nctv.com) 17.42.30 Quit obo_ (Client Quit) 17.43.51 Join [1]Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 17.45.53 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.46.24 Quit peanutb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.48.57 Join foolsh [0] (n=benjamin@74-135-178-234.dhcp.insightbb.com) 17.49.22 Join [2]Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 17.53.05 Quit foolsh (Remote closed the connection) 17.54.05 Part toffe82 17.54.40 Join [3]Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 17.54.40 *** Alert Mode level 1 17.54.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK Cassandra 17.54.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK [1]Cassandra 17.54.40 *** Alert Mode level 2 17.54.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK [2]Cassandra 17.54.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK [3]Cassandra 17.54.40 *** Alert Mode level 3 17.56.19 Join Javacat [0] (n=ghsgh@unaffiliated/javacat) 17.56.29 Join jackfusion [0] (i=cdc8417f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c5840d399915af4a) 17.56.35 # hi all 17.56.55 # Do force rockbox to completely rebuild the media database do I just delete all of the database_*.tcd files under .rockbox? 17.59.41 # has any one had it when they download, extract current build and daily build then boot into rockbox and goto a plugin that it says incompatible version? 18.00.56 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.00.57 Nick [3]Cassandra is now known as Cassandra (n=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 18.00.57 DBUG Enqueued KICK Cassandra 18.00.57 *** Alert Mode level 4 18.01.16 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 18.03.00 # jackfusion: make sure the plugin was also overwritten (ie it was also in the zip) 18.03.27 # and that rockbox.xxx is in the .rockbox dir and not in the root 18.03.51 # and that you're using the latest bootloader if you installed some time ago 18.03.52 # i've managed to write to the framebuffer in the Gigabeat S and get my own code working :) 18.04.01 # one step closer to a port 18.04.05 # \o/ 18.04.16 # wow 18.04.32 # Congratulations. What is the process for running your own code? 18.05.11 # using the method that Zunepet did 18.05.40 # basically i injected my code into the start address of the firmware 18.05.53 # not the bootloader but the wince firmware file 18.06.07 # Is that encrypted and/or signed? 18.06.26 # i then wrote a byte to the start of the framebuffer + (320*240) 18.06.47 # it was but zunepet was able to bypass the signature 18.07.07 # er framebuffer +(320*240-1) 18.07.25 # Has he posted about that anywhere? 18.07.49 Quit [1]Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.08.33 # not publicly but I am probably going to post it because i don't think he is working on it anymore. 18.08.43 # if you asked him he shared it though 18.09.22 # all it involves is writing an instruction into the bootloader that disabled the signature check 18.10.01 # A page in the wiki would be a nice permanent record. 18.10.51 # yes will do :) 18.10.58 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.11.02 # i just confirmed it 18.11.23 # i was able to do just a few pixels last night but i managed to get the whole screen to turn a certain color today 18.11.33 Join daniel2024 [0] (i=d0b4e09e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2723d07a353270f3) 18.11.41 # awesome 18.12.12 Quit [2]Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.12.20 # does the windows installer work for ipodvideo v5 60gig? 18.14.09 # Do you mean RButil or iPodPatcher, or what? 18.16.16 # jackfusion: All official Rockbox install tools (i.e. downloaded from rockbox.org) work with the ipod video. 18.16.47 # sorry mistake what I am wondering is is there a way to update the bootloader? without having to start from scratch 18.17.14 # updating the bootloader is the same as installing it from scratch - just download and run the latest ipodpatcher.exe and select "i" for install. 18.17.56 # (detailed instructions and download link are in Install chapter in the manual) 18.18.42 # thank u 18.18.50 # sorry you 18.25.12 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p57B0A82F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.25.55 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 18.26.05 # Hi, I'm on Debian Sid and unable to compile the sim, I always get 'collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]' 18.26.27 # the binutils are up to date 18.27.55 # x1jmp: I think it's a known problem with binutils. amiconn said the latest binutils were working on amd64, but someone else reported they were still broken on x86. 18.29.14 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m180.net81-67-5.noos.fr) 18.29.20 # I'm also on x86, does a downgrade help? 18.29.20 # hello every one 18.29.39 # x1jmp: I think so, but I'm not sure what the last good version is. 18.29.44 # thanks to Mike Sevakis (and anyone else) for the recent improvements to the e200 -- sound quality is amazing now, great job guys and keep up the good work 18.29.55 # need help 18.29.56 # what's the tag to display the autoscore in a WPS ? Can't find it on the wiki. 18.31.40 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 18.31.47 # if I have ipod linux install will ipodpatcher screw it up? 18.35.49 # anyone knows ? 18.36.22 # jackfusion: ipodpatcher installs the Rockbox bootloader... 18.36.56 # Which will replace the ipodlinux bootloader 18.38.34 # nuts 18.40.02 # jackfusion: What are you trying to do? 18.40.05 Quit grndslm ("Leaving") 18.40.29 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 18.40.58 # Are menus without title possible in rockbox? 18.41.15 # update the rockbox bootloader without loss the ipodlinux bootloader. 18.41.35 # jackfusion: That makes no sense - you either use the ipodlinux bootloader or the Rockbox one. 18.42.07 # to see it will fix the incompatiblity problem I am having. 18.42.46 # What incompatibility problem? Why don't you just explain the original problem, and how your ipod is currently set up? 18.43.11 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 18.43.29 # I have right at the beinging has any one had it when they download, extract current build and daily build then boot into rockbox and goto a plugin that it says incompatible version? 18.44.13 # That means your plugins are not from the same version of Rockbox as the rockbox.ipod file. The bootloader is irrelevant. 18.44.17 # That means that your rockbox.ipod file is from a different build than your plugins. 18.44.39 # oh ok 18.44.39 # If you're using the ipodlinux bootloader, which it sounds like you are, it's probably looking for the .ipod file in the root rather than in the /.rockbox/ folder. 18.44.59 # I bet if you check you'll find you have two rockbox.ipod files on your device, with the newer (up to date) one being in /.rockbox/ 18.45.27 # oh ok now I see 18.46.43 # thank you for your help. 18.47.09 Quit x-spec-t1ng ("Changing server") 18.48.20 Join peanutb [0] (n=paulb@c-71-231-82-231.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 18.49.02 Ctcp Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 6 minutes and 17 seconds at the last flood 18.49.02 # * austriancoder is happy that his sansa sounds as good as the original fw 18.49.44 # the new and improved rockbox is a lot different then the one I had before I like it better. 18.49.53 Join RockingD [0] (n=sergey@ppp85-141-135-40.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 18.52.06 # dose the database look in the ipod orginal firmware for the music and movies? 18.52.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.52.20 # No. 18.52.30 # It scans the music files on your device and indexes them itself 18.52.42 # Rockbox's video format is different from the iPod video format so we don't do anything with those videos. 18.52.57 # cool 18.53.21 # On an unrelated note entirely: Although this is probably quite a good thing, does this belong in the patch tracker or should I suggest it be moved to a wiki page? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7182 (ARM Disassembler apparently) 18.54.02 # i'm failing to run test_codec plugin by copying to /.rockbox/viewers and using 'open with' in a file browser. what am i doing wrong? 18.55.37 # Did you add it to the viewers.config file? 18.55.55 # but if I have my music database is in the ipod apple format database 18.55.58 # no. thanks for notice 18.56.14 # jackfusion: That's not a question, so I don't know what you're trying to ask. 18.56.27 # RockingD: I have the line "wav,viewers/test_codec,-" at the top of my viewers.config (so test_codec appears first in the list) 18.56.36 # Rockbox doesn't care about any existing database. All it cares about are what format the files are in, and if they have proper tags, when creating its own database. 18.57.11 # sorry will the rockbox database convert the apple ipod database to a managable format? 18.57.59 # how do I get my music from the apple ipod database? 18.58.46 # the music isn't *in* the database. 18.58.50 # Just information about the files. 18.59.04 # The files are just files, and Rockbox will scan them if they're in compatible formats (specifically, if they aren't bought from the iTunes store) 18.59.39 Quit daniel2024 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.00.15 # awesome 19.00.26 # linuxstb: I'm thinking about mp3 codec optimization for multiple cores. what guidelines should I follow with dual core rb kernel thread programming? are there any special techniques with regard to standard multithreading? 19.00.30 # Llorean: I think Toni should commit his diassembler to SVN (and his emulator...) 19.01.01 # RockingD: dual-core in Rockbox hasn't really been developed yet... 19.02.06 # linuxstb: Sounds good to me at least. They certainly qualify as /tools/ 19.02.53 # dose rockbox now support doing two things at once meaning I can listen to music and read files on my ipod? 19.03.43 # linuxstd: so the ablitity to create thread on COP is just a dummy? :) 19.03.55 # jackfusion: It's supported that since before it supported iPods... 19.04.31 # before the update I could not do that. 19.06.39 # before what update? 19.07.02 # thank you for all your help and have a nice day. 19.07.48 Quit jackfusion ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.10.12 # RockingD: It works for mpegplayer, but doesn't seem to be working when trying to move audio playback to the second core. Other people know more about it than me though. 19.17.10 Join nickspoon [0] (n=nick@84.13.248.93) 19.21.34 Quit x1jmp (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.24.02 # Is -39 really as low as the we can get volume on the Sansa? 19.24.13 # RockingD: Have you managed to run test_codec on your 3g yet? I'm curious to know the results.... 19.25.33 Join jawad1988 [0] (n=jawad198@41.249.1.76) 19.25.57 Part jawad1988 19.29.10 # fellows, can I "svn update" a single file from the repository? 19.31.40 Quit RockingD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.31.57 # svn operates on repository revisions, unlike some other versioning system. 19.32.21 # It's possible, but svn won't know what's going on. 19.33.32 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p57B0A82F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.33.45 # Why exactly do you only want to update one file? 19.34.14 Join cadkins [0] (n=cadkins@207.14.224.88) 19.35.03 # is there any word on when video support for the iPod 5.5 is coming? 19.35.37 Join Casanoba` [0] (i=4cbaf819@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a9d0b0b1c925ec98) 19.35.53 # they are actually 3 files, I made several changes but now I need to get the old source because I need to make separate patches for different features 19.36.13 # hi 19.36.13 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-44-127.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.36.51 # linuxstb i have made the deb package for the arm cross compiler 19.36.59 Quit Casanoba` (Client Quit) 19.37.09 # is ther a place where i can publish it? 19.37.26 # 25 meg 19.37.54 # pepie34: ooo, deb for the cross? as in package file for us poor debian based people? 19.38.06 # BRB 19.38.07 # yes 19.38.20 # cadkins: Mpegplayer already runs on the 5.5g... 19.39.14 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.39.26 # pepie34: oh you lovely person. I had a hell of a time getting cross to work when the file they gave you to get it to work well, didn't work. 19.40.12 # Llorean : I put an .mpg file on it and nothing 19.40.27 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.40.48 # cadkins: What exactly do you mean by "and nothing"? 19.41.13 # Llorean : doesn't play. Actually doens't even show up 19.41.20 # what??? i can play mpeg on my ipod 5G? 19.41.33 # cadkins: what is your file view set up as? music files only? 19.42.03 # well it was built with rockboxdev.sh 19.42.03 Quit x1jmp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.42.18 # pepie34: Yes, see the mpegplayer wiki page. 19.42.24 # pepie34: Yes, but not very well. You either need to encode at a smaller than full-screen resolution, or at a low (e.g. 10) fps. 19.42.36 Join webguest39 [0] (i=4cbaf819@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a92068f4c83386a9) 19.42.46 # pepie34: ah. ok. Well, I figured out what was wrong with mine. It was some obscure package that made it work..*grumbles* 19.42.48 # good morning 19.42.51 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p57B0A82F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.42.54 # webguest39: morning! 19.42.58 # flex? 19.43.07 # nop 19.43.36 # has there been any progress on the sansa radio driver? 19.43.40 # pepie34: no. I completely forgot what it was, but I had all the gcc stuff and the other stuff on the list. I am on kubuntu 19.44.08 # Alonea : I looked at it under "Files" 19.44.23 # Alonea : I didn't set the "Database" up. 19.44.26 # do a apt-get build-dep gcc-4.1 it willl help 19.44.44 # cadkins: That doesn't answer Alonea's question 19.44.44 # bye for now 19.44.46 # cadkins: ah, well, you said you didn't see it, so I thought it wasn't showing up at all 19.44.50 # anybody know how can i put rockbox on ipod nano 2g using windows 19.44.50 # cadkins: Which "File view" mode are you in? 19.44.52 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 19.45.19 # cadkins: The filetree view has various settings such as "Music Only" "Playlists Only" "Supported Files" or "All files" 19.45.28 # webguest39: Generation 2 Nanos are not supported. 19.45.59 # is a 2g nano 19.46.09 # Do you mean 2 Gigabyte? 19.46.15 # yes 19.46.20 # Then simply follow the manual 19.46.32 # thy a lot of them 19.46.33 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.46.46 # There is only one Rockbox manual for the iPod Nano. 19.46.54 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.47.18 # has anyone been able to extract the nk.bin for the Creative Vision M? 19.47.31 # i try the ipod nano 1g and dint wokr 19.47.35 # Llorean : sorry. New to this. I have the jBuild on mine. Where would I find this? 19.47.46 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.47.49 # Llorean: I noticed sometimes when I put a new version of rockbox on it resets that view to music files only. 19.47.55 # cadkins: Try reading the manual and searching for File View, but jbuild may predate mpegplayer working 19.48.02 # cadkins: Unsupported builds can be very outdated. 19.48.16 # Alonea: Never done that to me. Are you sure you don't sometimes bump the quick menu? 19.48.27 # webguest39: 1g means "1st generation" 19.48.34 # webguest39: Is your nano definitely a 1st generation nano? 19.48.57 # it looks like the one in the pic 19.49.17 # Then if you follow the instructions in the official manual it will work. 19.49.17 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.49.29 # What happens when you run ipodpatcher? 19.49.32 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.49.34 # Llorean: have no idea. There was a couple times the build I was using was quite squirrley as it is. happened to get the latest at a bad time. Crashed quite a bit too at that point. Screens were kinda popping all over the place so who knows at that point. It is all good now though 19.49.43 # theres no intruction 19.49.43 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.49.56 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.50.01 # webguest39: See the "Manual" link on EVERY page of the site? That's where the instructions are... 19.50.02 # iget a rockbox zi 19.50.50 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 19.50.52 Join webguest35 [0] (i=4cbaf819@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-16748e1f6eb3feb4) 19.50.52 Quit webguest39 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.50.52 # Alonea: Strange. Which player do you have again? 19.51.30 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.51.30 # Llorean : thanks for the info. I'll check it out with jBuild. Anyone have a suggestion for something a little more "eye-pleaseing" than default ? 19.51.31 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.51.33 # Llorean: gigabeat. this happened a few weeks ago. I only update about once a week. 19.51.55 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.52.12 Quit cadkins ("Leaving") 19.52.13 # when i get a zip file what do i do with the file on it .. i try puting it on the nano and dont work 19.52.23 # Alonea: Ah, so during all the bugginess, gotcha. 19.52.30 # webguest35: I've told you several times now, READ THE MANUAL 19.52.50 # webguest35: Look for a link that says "Manual" on any page of the official Rockbox website. 19.53.07 Quit kaaloo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.53.18 # Llorean: indeed. it happens. Though trying to turn your rockbox back on and off when it crashes in the car is fun...good ole red lights 19.53.31 # I know whatcha mean. 19.53.38 # The H120 was much worse. 19.53.53 # Some of the crashes required the use of a reset pinhole, I used to keep a paperclip on my keychain just for it. 19.54.13 # Llorean: awesome. I had to use battery switch to reset it on mine 19.54.33 # Basically the same thing, the switch is just oh so much easier to use. :) 19.54.41 # My H120 has been retired to a home stereo component. 19.55.15 # I bet. Pin holes are evil. What is so wrong with switches instead of near unobtainable buttons? 19.55.48 # Well, I mean in theory official firmware should never require its use anyway 19.56.36 # Ah well. 'tis lunchtime. 19.56.36 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.56.40 Part Llorean 19.56.55 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.57.59 # heh. food is good 20.07.48 # i got rockbox work but the word are so small 20.08.33 # any help 20.09.56 # need help with Rockbox 20.09.57 # webguest35: did you look at all the different menus in the manual? there are text settings. 20.10.15 # lol there so small 20.11.07 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039ac0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-70cbde0596c7a4c2) 20.11.48 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@85.69.166.179) 20.12.10 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-44-127.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.12.18 # some people like small text. but like I said, read the manual, as in the whole thing, and you should find all the information you need 20.13.35 Join aldo [0] (n=aldo-fab@204.14.44.130) 20.13.42 # nop non 20.15.00 Join Alldogship [0] (n=Alldogsh@bas3-montreal02-1096680736.dsl.bell.ca) 20.15.59 # the world are so small 20.16.18 # I think you can add bigger fonts 20.16.33 # how 20.16.53 Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-40-106.hlrn.qwest.net) 20.16.54 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.16.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras 20.17.14 # there should be instructions somewhere on how to install (I'm not a pro) 20.17.24 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.17.56 # tnks for link 20.18.39 # webguest35: did you install the fonts package? 20.19.01 # the fonts do i unzip and intall them right 20.19.01 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.19.24 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.20.38 # if I remember (with my weird memory), you have to put them in /.rockbox/fonts/ 20.20.43 # I'll try it now 20.20.54 Nick Alonea is now known as alonea_away (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 20.22.04 # how do u intall them 20.22.11 # install 20.23.02 # I think you can unzip it on the disk 20.23.12 # it gives an invisible folder 20.23.51 # ... testing 20.24.03 # dont tnk so 20.24.12 # worked 20.24.21 # nop 20.24.31 Quit joa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.24.32 # thres is a themes folder 20.25.03 # lets try steps by steps 20.25.03 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.32 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.25.49 # you unzip and it gives an invisible folder called .rockbox with the folder fonts in it 20.26.46 # if you inzip it on the disk (at root location) the folders should be automatically placed 20.26.54 # *unzip 20.27.28 # I'm curious, what system and what mp3 player? 20.27.29 # ... Backdrops--- codeecs codepages docs eqs icons langs rocks themes viewers wps ... 20.27.33 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 20.27.36 # all folders in ipod 20.27.40 # add a fonts folder 20.28.02 # cant do that 20.28.18 # rockbox folder is invisible 20.29.55 # unzip the package and it should create /.rockbox/fonts (invisible) 20.30.03 # in your directory 20.31.26 # then how do i use them 20.31.30 # I'm using OnyX to reveal invisible folders. it could help you 20.32.28 # your fonts are there? it's in settings-general settings-display-browse fonts 20.33.34 # can do nothing on ipod wold are so small lol] 20.34.11 # is it working now? 20.35.04 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 20.35.24 # shouting: Is there anyone who can help me with iPod Mac partition table? 20.36.05 # is it normal that due to rockbox, my ipod take very long time to be detected by Windows and until it's detected, some of my usb device not working ? 20.36.05 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.36.15 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 20.36.23 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.37.01 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.38.42 # lol fix it 20.38.47 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039ac0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-442bc18d6ef8aa40) 20.38.47 # bck to normal ipod 20.38.53 # i goin to try it agen 20.38.56 # lol 20.43.13 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 20.43.30 Part kaaloo 20.46.55 # is it bad when the white apple screen dosent go away lol 20.47.19 # yes 20.47.30 # what do i o 20.47.31 # do 20.48.03 # reboot (select + menu) and as soon as you see the apple do select + play 20.48.10 # this will be disk mode 20.48.24 # or you could put hold on 20.48.38 # see what the problem is 20.49.36 # lucky me lol 20.49.40 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.49.59 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.50.07 # did you forget the partition or the FAT 32? 20.50.45 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 20.50.46 Quit obo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.50.59 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.50.59 # yea lol 20.52.14 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A96178.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.52.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.53.16 # how much space do you lose on your ipod because of rockbox? 20.53.38 Quit Slowking_Man (Nick collision from services.) 20.53.46 Join Slowking_Man [0] (i=slow@wikipedia/Slowking-Man) 20.54.07 # my ipod repartition make me loose 15Go 20.54.36 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 20.54.37 Quit webguest35 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.57.13 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.58.09 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4d1b0f0bf55d393e) 20.58.14 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.58.47 Quit obo (Nick collision from services.) 20.58.50 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp181-118.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.59.00 Join obo [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.59.17 Quit obo (Nick collision from services.) 20.59.20 Nick obo_ is now known as obo (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.59.30 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.00.22 Quit Alldogship ("Leaving") 21.00.59 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 21.05.16 Quit aldo () 21.06.44 Join dawn^2 [0] (n=surface@valinor.dawnlink.net) 21.06.47 # hi all 21.06.52 Join aldo [0] (n=aldo-fab@204.14.44.130) 21.07.14 # some of my mp3 and ogg files do not play well with rockbox... somehow, it sounds like these songs are played too fast 21.07.27 # any idea how this could be debugged? 21.08.49 Join olle_ [0] (n=olle@h16n1fls34o836.telia.com) 21.09.04 # I assume the same files play fine on your computer? 21.09.07 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.09.32 # linuxstb: yes 21.09.33 Quit austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 21.10.12 # linuxstb: and I was not able to find out what makes the non-playing files different from the well-playing files 21.10.18 # Can you make a couple of files (e.g. one mp3, one ogg) available somewhere for me (and anyone else interested) to download? 21.10.47 # What have you examined? 21.11.34 # I looked at things like bitrate, vbr and channel mode 21.12.27 # are any conditions currently known that prevent a mp3 or ogg file from being played well? 21.12.49 # Not the kind of problems you've mentioned. 21.13.07 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.13.07 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.13.11 # Which device are you running Rockbox on? 21.13.17 # iaudio x5 21.13.24 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.14.00 Nick alonea_away is now known as Alonea (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 21.14.08 # Can you host the files somewhere, or dcc them to me? 21.14.35 # I can test them to see I get the same problem. 21.15.00 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-44-127.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.15.11 # 'night 21.15.44 # linuxstb: I think i will dcc you them 21.15.51 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 21.15.58 # linuxstb: I quickly have to check which one to begin with 21.16.05 # How hard is it to RMA a Sansa? 21.16.26 # pepie34: Regarding your gcc .deb packages, you could ask Bagder if he wants to host them on download.rockbox.org - I know there's been talk of hosting debian packages in the past. 21.16.31 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.16.40 # ok 21.16.50 # Badger are you here? 21.17.00 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.17.08 # Bagder sorry 21.17.28 # Earlier today he said he would be around tonight (European time) 21.17.38 # OK 21.17.57 # I have stoped looking at rockbox code quite a time ago 21.18.10 # is the COP in use ? 21.18.59 # It's used by mpegplayer, but still not working in the core. 21.18.59 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.19.23 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.19.48 # ok 21.20.13 # and you don't have an elf loader and no relocable code for plugin? 21.20.36 # dawn^2: resampling issues maybe? are the files 44.1Hz? 21.20.40 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.20.59 # pepie34: No 21.21.01 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.21.09 # ok 21.22.53 # lowlight: yes 21.24.07 # linuxstb: ok, dcc started 21.24.22 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549ADBAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.25.11 # dawn^2: It's not coming through for some reason. I don't think it's my end, as I've received files in the past... 21.25.11 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.25.28 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.25.30 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.26.01 # linuxstb: ok, probably my firewall.... would you be able to rsync it from my rsync server? 21.26.42 Join Lars_G [0] (n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 21.26.50 # * Lars_G tears his clothes and cuts himself to ribbons 21.27.08 # I had to format my iPod today. I've been rockboxless for three hours and I can't stand it! 21.27.28 # My question is, has the bootloader install changed in the past... 5 months? 21.27.40 # dawn^2: Check your PMs 21.27.49 # And second is there any article on the wiki on how to format an iPod in "windows" mode from linux so it's recognizable by itunes too? 21.27.49 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.01 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.28.12 # Lars_G: A bootloader install involves downloading ipodpatcher, running it, and entering "i" (for install) at the prompt. 21.30.20 # dawn^2: but does rockbox recognize them as 44.1kHz? 21.30.42 # linuxstb: ok hasn't changed much it seems. thanks 21.31.18 # lowlight: yes, at least the file properties show me 44.1khZ 21.31.58 # odd that they would play fast 21.32.37 # well, I'm not exactly sure how I should describe the error 21.32.55 # maybe, playing too fast is the wrong term 21.33.41 # probably, it could also be described like the player looses some parts of the audio stream 21.33.57 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 21.34.00 # Do you mean that playback pauses? 21.34.20 # Sounds more like cpu issues 21.34.20 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.34.22 # no, some things are missing 21.34.34 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.34.36 # dawn^2: are the missing parts consistent between playbacks? 21.34.47 # Lars_G: I would say so, yes 21.34.59 # When is the first problem? How many seconds into the track? 21.35.23 # linuxstb: it's during the whole track. listening for 20secs should be enough 21.35.46 # I also looked at "View audio thread" in the debug menu 21.35.46 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.36.00 # dawn^2: You just told us the failure time is consistent so it should start at the same point every time. 21.36.02 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.36.26 # Lars_G: well, it happens during the whole track 21.36.32 Nick kk is now known as krazykit (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-128-88.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 21.37.08 # Lars_G: so it doesn't matter from where to start playing the track (I sent linuxstb a sample ogg file) 21.37.40 # pepie34: I'm here now 21.37.40 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.37.54 # if I look at the "View audio thread" menu, it also looks similar to the songs that play fine 21.38.02 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.38.05 # * Bagder has some fun pics to show in a few minutes 21.38.06 # ok i've got a deb package for the arm cross compiler 21.38.06 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.38.32 # dawn^2: I've just tested the first 40 seconds on my ipod and it plays fine. I'm just about to test on my iriver h140 21.38.44 # do you want it for download.rockbox.org 21.39.02 # sure! 21.39.22 # How can i upload it? 21.39.37 # can I download it from you? 21.39.56 # yes i willl put it on a webpage 21.40.09 # great 21.40.39 # dawn^2: It sounds fine on my iriver as well (same CPU as the X5) 21.41.24 # linuxstb: ok.... any idea how I could find out what causes the problem on my x5? 21.41.26 # pepie34: you planning on providing the other compilers too? 21.42.04 # not now 21.42.07 # pepie34: Will it be possible for people to apt-get your package? I don't know what's needed for that... 21.42.36 # Badger but when i will have time 21.42.43 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.42.44 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.43.02 # linuxstb Badger need to create a debian repository for that 21.43.11 # is that hard? 21.43.27 # nope if you run a deb base distribution 21.43.46 # we do 21.44.01 # hm, there exists http://www.emdebian.org/ where you can get cross compiler for gcc 21.44.27 # eh arm 21.44.28 # ;) 21.44.29 # schula: suitable for us? 21.44.31 # dawn^2: Are you running the very latest build of Rockbox? My versions may be a few days old. 21.45.01 # my connection hangs 21.45.08 # need to go near the AP 21.45.10 # Bagder: i got an linker error, but im not sure why. i have atm no time to investigate it 21.45.23 # that sounds like unsuitable then ;-) 21.45.54 # linuxstb: I'm runing the version from 070421 21.46.30 # while on the compiler topic (prepping my lapop here): 1) does rockboxdev.sh build the correct (recommended) crosscompilers, 2) do we have a list which versions we should use 21.46.44 # it builds the correct versions 21.47.10 # 4.0.3 for arm and sh 21.47.15 # 3.4.6 for m68k 21.47.19 # some patches applied 21.47.21 # dawn^2: You should try the "current build" from the website. I can't remember any recent bugfixes which may solve your problem, but it's always best to test for bugs with the latest version. 21.47.31 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 21.47.37 # binutils 2.16.1 21.47.46 # * petur wonders why make install only creates an empty archos dir (h300 sim) 21.47.57 # linuxstb: ok, I will try that 21.48.01 # linuxstb: thanks for your help 21.48.19 # petur: Are you sure there isn't a hidden ".rockbox" folder there? 21.48.58 # ok it is faster now 21.49.07 # linuxstb: bingo 21.49.14 # * petur slaps forehead 21.50.00 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 21.50.02 # * linuxstb wipes forehead 21.50.42 # still, when I double-click rockboxgui, rockbox tells me there's no .rockbox folder 21.51.05 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 21.51.57 # Bagder 21.52.00 # http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto 21.52.18 # you need to use dpkg-scanpackage 21.52.38 # hmm would these toolchains work? http://www.emdebian.org/toolchains/search.php?section=devel 21.53.03 # does it works if I stick one finger in the usb port, and one finger in the iPod? I lost my usb cable :'( 21.53.33 # lowlight i can try 21.54.07 Join mark007 [0] (n=mark007@pool-71-101-177-43.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.54.30 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/mugs/ 21.54.42 # but at least it does not apply rockbox patch 21.54.51 Part digerati1338 21.55.59 # Bagder: nice ;) 21.56.26 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 21.56.30 # Bagder: Beer mugs next year though? 21.56.34 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-fb3264c8e9b89894) 21.56.46 # * petur votes beer mugs too 21.57.08 # :) 21.57.13 # for Beer they need to be bigger :-) 21.57.21 # well, I figure coffee is more frequently used in combination with rockbox hacking... 21.57.30 # or perhaps, should be ;-) 21.57.33 # * linuxstb requests espresso cups 21.57.49 # is there tshirts? 21.57.50 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 21.57.53 # petur, how did you run rockboxui? You need to run it from the build as current folder 21.58.06 # the shirts should arrive here tomorrow... 21.58.17 # * Llorean envies the mugs 21.58.25 # * Llorean is still looking for something unique for -W attendees 21.58.39 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 21.58.58 # oooh ... coffee mugs! 21.59.10 # Bagder file here 21.59.11 # http://romain.herault.free.fr/deb/ 21.59.22 # I'm planning a shipment over to you West guys 21.59.28 # arm-elf for rockbox 21.59.37 # arm-uclinux-elf for ipodlinux 22.00.04 # bluebrother: say that again to a linux newbie 22.00.27 # open a terminal, cd to the build folder of your sim, type ./rockboxui 22.00.57 # I guess if you just click the executable from nautilus / konqueror it assumes ~ as parent folder 22.01.09 # bluebrother: nice... thanks! 22.01.51 # petur: IMO (others may disagree), you'll get the most out of Linux if you just use the terminal, leave the mouse alone... 22.01.59 # hmm, maybe the sim executable should be aware of its location. Guess that won't be too hard to change 22.02.10 # In general I'd agree with linuxstb 'bout that. 22.02.24 # I could give it a try ... when I get around for some Rockbox time again 22.02.35 Join l2eM1x [0] (n=l2eM1x@c-71-57-110-168.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.02.46 # In Nautilus double-clicking rockboxui works just fine 22.02.48 # GUI is nice, but when your're used to the shell you don't want to use the gui too much anymore ;-) 22.02.59 # linuxstb: well I was happy that I could leave the commandline behind me when I installed windows :( 22.03.12 # bluebrother: I know both, and I really prefer gui most of the time 22.03.41 # hehe ... seems there are always people to disagree with that gui thing. 22.04.21 # hmmm it indeed works in nautilus.... 22.04.26 # can I format the iPod in "windows" under linux? 22.04.32 # * petur kicks xfe 22.04.40 # petur, linux shell is completely different to windows' cmd.exe 22.04.45 Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-40-106.hlrn.qwest.net) 22.04.46 # Lars_G: Yes. So it's a "macpod" at the moment? 22.04.55 # it really hurts when I need to use cmd.exe 22.04.59 # linuxstb: yes. 22.05.10 # Lars_G: Is the Apple firmware working OK/ 22.05.11 # ? 22.05.17 # linuxstb: yes. 22.05.34 # Lars_G: Then you can follow these instructions - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 22.05.55 Join mark007_ [0] (n=mark007@pool-71-101-177-43.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.06.04 # anybody have any thoughts on my WPS : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10561.0 ? 22.06.09 # Lars_G: They're for Mac OS X, but the principle is identical. Just replace the disk devices (e.g. /dev/disk1) with the Linux equivalents (e.g. /dev/sda) 22.06.23 # linuxstb: thanks I'll look at it. 22.06.50 # * Lars_G laughs 22.07.24 # linuxstb: fun. are these part tables simple DDs from a working iPod? is it a dd of just the table or a whole partition? 22.07.39 # Just the partition table - i.e. sector 0 22.08.01 # The firmware partition is in the same place on both winpods and macpods, so you don't need to touch that. 22.08.14 # Ah interesting 22.08.22 # wouldn't it be necessary to change the type of the data partition and reformat it? 22.08.27 # so this is just swapping the mac format partition table to pc format. 22.08.32 # s/necessary/sufficient/ 22.08.37 # bluebrother: for the data holding partition yes 22.08.55 # bluebrother: not sufficient. partition tables in mac ipods are different than windows ipods. 22.08.56 # bluebrother: macpods have a different type of partition table (Apple Partition Map) to winpods (DOS Partition Table) 22.08.58 # or is there other magic that needs to be changes? 22.09.04 # bluebrother: mac FS uses a custom partition table. 22.09.10 # ah, ok 22.09.23 # linuxstb: I've been thinking on this all day. 22.09.26 # * linuxstb should get round to adding conversion to ipodpatcher 22.09.48 Join Alldogship [0] (n=Alldogsh@bas3-montreal02-1096680736.dsl.bell.ca) 22.10.02 # linuxstb: I've reached the conclusion that it was stupid of apple to use separate tables and FS for the ipods. Since OS X is perfectly capable of reading DOS partition tables and FAT12/16/32 22.10.05 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.10.41 # OS X isn't "perfectly" capable. It seems to have a crippled FAT32 driver (or at least, takes an unreasonably long time to mount it) 22.10.43 # linuxstb: And there's still no loss of possible metadata for ipods under mac, since OS X can use "hidden" directories on FAT systems to store HFS+ metadata 22.10.51 # You can't really blame them for using their own filesystem though. 22.10.52 # can I ask some questions (mostly ipod)? 22.11.13 # linuxstb: Oh well it'd be easier if windows supported HFS out of the box. but. 22.11.21 # Alldogship, don't ask to ask -- just ask 22.11.28 # d'oh 22.11.39 # ;-) 22.11.43 # I forgot that was one on the prime directive of chat 22.12.01 # Alldogship: you lost 15GB of space on your disk? 22.12.11 # yep, that's me 22.12.27 # it's a partition thing 22.12.50 # A few people have reported that - maybe the partition table on the download site is wrong... Which ipod do you have? 22.13.09 # I barely know anyone with windows so I had to change my ipod it fat32 22.13.11 # ah, so it's a conversion issue? 22.13.24 # ipod video 30gig gen 5.5 22.13.28 # the emdebian package is not working 22.13.30 # error: no memory region specified for loadable section `.got' 22.13.37 # Alldogship: And which MBR did you download? 22.13.47 # can't you just remove and create the data partition with fdisk? 22.14.08 # bluebrother: You should be able to, but I've never worked out the Mac OS X partitioning tools.... 22.14.27 # ah. Don't know os x :o 22.14.43 # (most partitioning tools don't like the Empty partition on ipods) 22.14.53 # I did something similar when I tried booting my mini from a cf card, but I used linux 22.15.05 # linuxstb: used mbr-video30gb-2048.bin. it's the right one but maybe for gen 5 only 22.15.14 # Yes, the linux fdisk lets you do anything... 22.15.14 # fdisk on linux can handle it fine. If os x ships that it shouldn't be a problem 22.15.26 # but as I said, I don't know os x at all 22.15.32 # It's BSD based, so has lots of BSD tools rather than GNU. 22.15.43 # linuxstb: and some custom tools too. 22.15.47 # (fdisk probably isn't gnu though...) 22.15.51 # too bad there aren't os x live cds around ;-) 22.15.54 # omg I'm a moron 22.15.55 # "man fdisk" is victorious! 22.16.10 # bluebrother: the install cd is a live disk, and making one is not too hard. 22.16.52 # but you need to buy os x, and need a mac, right? 22.17.05 # right 22.17.07 Quit mark007 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.17.16 # Bagder did you get them? 22.17.24 # Alldogship: My favorite is the gay command. 22.17.26 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039ac0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-85110e8713d3fab6) 22.17.28 # Alldogship: "man touch" 22.17.35 # :) 22.18.05 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 22.18.10 Part norbusan 22.18.24 # oh, "man man" is also somewhat funny 22.18.33 # pepie34: I'll only get the base one 22.18.39 # which man? 22.19.06 # you mean? 22.19.23 # pepie34: I mean that I won't host a toolset for ipodlinux hacking 22.19.33 # OK ? 22.19.35 # :) 22.20.16 # ok bye 22.20.22 # good night 22.20.25 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 22.20.25 # Alldogship: Yes, it looks like our mbr-video30gb-2048.bin file is bad. Anyone around here with a 30GB 5.5g ? 22.20.53 # me exactly. I think that's the problem 22.21.25 # Bagder: how can we mere humans get a hold of one of those mugs :P 22.21.26 # unless I'm the first with a 30gb ipod video who noticed it 22.21.45 # XavierGr: not at all yet, and we'll see if ever 22.22.01 # I'll hand them out on the devcon 22.22.09 # and send a bunch to the westerners 22.22.16 Join Psilonaut [0] (i=DaPhunka@77.206-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 22.22.19 # * Llorean sighs. 22.22.21 # Alldogship: A few people have mentioned it in the past I think - I remember reading some forum posts 22.22.22 # then consider the leftovers 22.22.35 # errr 22.22.36 # I fear I'm going to have to make the "POSTING IN THIS FORUM" posts several pages long if I'm going to make them effective. 22.22.44 # linuxstb: ipodpatcher -i or ipodpatcher -a ? 22.22.53 # Llorean: Just change it to "DO NOT POST IN THIS FORUM"... 22.22.53 # A long list of "Do not post here if"s... :( 22.23.23 # Lars_G: Just run it without any parameters. 22.23.25 # Bagder: maybe you should open an online shop with Rockbox items like t-shits, mugs etc :D 22.23.25 # linuxstb: I have someone griping at me because someone else removed their post. It was a "I removed Rockbox from my iPod, but it's great, really!" from the Ipod Installation/Removal forum 22.23.47 # Well, it was a post about removal... :) 22.23.53 # Yeah, that was his point 22.23.57 Part Lars_G ("Leaving") 22.24.12 # I wasn't the one who removed his post, but I defended it because I felt it was an off-topic post mostly 22.24.21 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.24.38 # I felt that with the statement "Don't ask anything here after you've successfully booted Rockbox" strongly implied the corollary of "Don't post here after you've successfully removed Rockbox" but I may have to type that out :) 22.24.53 # XavierGr: http://www.cafepress.com/rockboxfirmware 22.24.54 # Ah well, I'm apparently the "Evil type of moderator who can do no wrong" despite the fact that I'm not the one who removed the post. 22.25.41 Part l2eM1x 22.25.57 # looks like sansa tuning is getting really close to the actual frequencies...still a small error of +/- 0.2 Mhz, will get that fixed soon though 22.26.39 # oh sorry I removed that post 22.26.46 # mostly because it was dumb and off topic 22.26.51 # bagder: yeah but then the money will go to them and not Rockbox :( 22.27.41 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@adsl-226-225-186.dab.bellsouth.net) 22.27.45 # linuxstb: I read the full fdisk manual and i'm lost 22.28.13 # Alldogship: I was too... I assume you can't find a Linux computer either? 22.28.25 # XavierGr: Yeah, they get the majority of the money on those. 22.28.37 Join Lars_G [0] (n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 22.28.39 # But it's much easier than printing out a warehouse full of t-shirt and handling shipping yourself. 22.28.43 # XavierGr: either way, we can't get the majority 22.28.49 # cp: cannot stat `rockbox-info.txt': No such file or directory 22.28.50 # <--- do I need to remake (recreate) my build dir? 22.28.51 # making and shipping cost a lot 22.29.02 # Lars_G: You need to re-run ../tools/configure 22.29.03 # Lars_G, rerun configure 22.29.18 # no need to destroy the build dir? ok 22.29.40 # * bluebrother hopes to get something from the devcon leftovers 22.30.03 # linuxstb: what? using linux would work? I wish I read that before. (got ubuntu in dual boot) 22.30.10 # Sigh someday I'll setup a distcc farm. someday 22.30.32 # Alldogship: Yes, Linux is much easier... 22.30.39 # (because I use it....) 22.31.14 # linuxstb: I'll reboot, find a chat program and I'll be back 22.31.14 # Lars_G: use ccache and it'll be fast enough 22.31.18 Quit Alldogship ("Leaving") 22.31.38 # Bagder: I have it, but the difference doesn't seems so much 22.31.43 # Maybe i've not configured it well 22.31.44 # on linux? 22.31.48 # yes 22.31.55 # the difference is quite notable to most of us 22.32.21 # hmmm 22.32.41 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-142-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.32.53 Join x2jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p57B0A82F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.32.59 # I doubt a distcc farm will help much 22.33.04 # Lars_G: maybe you installed ccache after running configure and it doesn't make use of ccache at all? 22.33.09 # it would require very fast network 22.35.33 # grr. Why do these stupid usb-ata bridges not support smart commands? 22.35.42 Join alldogship [0] (n=alldogsh@bas3-montreal02-1096680736.dsl.bell.ca) 22.35.46 # * Llorean has sent Colombo a private message. 22.36.10 # linuxstb: back 22.36.17 # If he steps over anything that even _seems_ like a line, feel free to revoke his posting privileges if I'm not around to do it first. 22.37.05 # bluebrother: Because they translate everything. And usb disk communicates using scsi commands, even though the disk "behind" the bridge is usually ata 22.37.19 # s/And/An/ 22.37.57 # hmm. Meaning scsi doesn't know smart commands so the bridge can't translate it? 22.39.05 # alldogship: Is your ipod attached? 22.39.08 # Afaiu usb-ata bridges set their own power management parameters for the disk, determined by the bridge's configuration eeprom 22.39.17 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.39.26 # linuxstb: yep I see it's icon 22.39.44 # Forget the icon and open up a terminal... 22.39.58 # linuxstb: already done 22.40.02 # Although you should unmount it if you can. 22.40.10 Quit x1jmp (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.40.56 Join axlgreasetires [0] (n=adam@c-71-60-225-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 22.41.59 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.42.20 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.42.41 # Hey, can anyone tell me the line of code you need to change in /apps/bitmaps/native/misc.c to remove the version info 22.43.17 # remove the version info? 22.43.20 # It used to be in snprintf(version, sizeof(version), "Ver. %s", appsversion); 22.43.38 # Yah, you know how it shows the version info in the bottom center? 22.43.42 # like revision? 22.43.56 # that line no longer exists though 22.43.56 # create a file docs/VERSION 22.44.18 # hmmmm, not booting 22.44.20 # BigMac: Delete lines 879 to 883 - the two lcd_setfont() lines and the two lines between them. 22.44.26 # neither rockbox bootloader not OF 22.44.29 # linuxstb: unmounted it (had to brushup on my terminal memory) 22.44.40 # and put in what you want to appear as verion string 22.44.40 # linuxstb: Thank ya 22.44.41 # alldogship: Do you know the disk device? 22.44.55 # linuxstb: yep 22.45.09 # Then type "fdisk /dev/sdx" (replace x with the right letter) 22.45.11 # bluebrother: No I just don't want anything overlaying the bootscreen 22.45.15 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.45.17 # linuxstb: /dev/sdb2 22.45.19 # The "p" to display the paritition table. 22.45.24 # alldogship: Just /dev/sdb 22.45.49 # Sigh i give up, I'll try to find a windows machine to format the friggin thing 22.45.50 # sigh 22.46.24 # * Lars_G kicks stuff 22.46.46 # linuxstb: Note: sector size is 2048 (not 512) 22.46.56 # linuxstb: Command (m for help): 22.47.08 # linuxstb: that was to be expected 22.47.11 # alldogship: Good. Now type "d" followed by "2" to delete the existing partition. 22.47.11 # linuxstb: I see ipodpatcher's a bin but can't find the source, it's distributted as bin in svn? 22.47.29 # Lars_G: The source is in rbutil/ipodpatcher/ 22.47.32 # linuxstb: d2 or d enter 2 enter 22.47.38 # d enter 2 enter 22.48.02 # linuxstb: thanks 22.48.02 # linuxstb: an other command? 22.48.54 # Now "n" enter, "p" enter, "2" enter, "6" enter, enter 22.48.56 Quit axlgreasetires ("Ex-Chat") 22.49.29 # In fact, the 6 may be wrong for your ipod, it should be the same start cylinder as was displayed earlier.... 22.49.45 Join sergey [0] (n=sergey@ppp85-140-150-21.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 22.50.08 # linuxstb: sorry dude, does this look ok to you? http://200.62.10.54:8008/ipod.txt 22.50.19 # linuxstb: good thing I didn't do the last enter. Asking me :Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (6-912, default 912): 22.50.42 # Lars_G: I can't connect to that page 22.51.21 # alldogship: Don't worry - all changes are still in memory, they are not written until you enter the "w" command. You can press "q" at any time to cancel and leave fdisk. 22.51.26 # linuxstb: do, reload 22.51.58 # Lars_G: Yes, that looks normal. 22.52.19 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.52.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.52.26 # linuxstb: odd thing is, I reset the ipod and it shows just the apple, nothing else (no rockbox bootup dialog) 22.52.35 # Does the backlight come on? 22.52.46 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.52.59 # Yes 22.53.00 # linuxstb: sorry for delay. I've ran test_codec on mp3 128 kbps. 112%realtime 22.53.04 # last time I had a apple logo luckup I switched the hold on 22.53.09 # Ok I unzipped rockbox, it loads rockbox..... sigh 22.53.25 Nick sergey is now known as RockingD (n=sergey@ppp85-140-150-21.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 22.53.32 # so damage might be the OF 22.53.44 # Are there any plans for some sort of skinable main screen, where you can place shortcuts to whatever components? Instead of having one of the menu screens? 22.53.46 Quit desowin ("use linux") 22.53.47 # sorry, client changed my nick to sergey 22.53.49 # oh my 22.53.58 # linuxstb: No more rockbox startup diag? 22.54.07 # Lars_G: No 22.54.14 # alldogship: Are you OK with fdisk? 22.54.14 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.54.31 # linuxstb: man, that's sad. I'm sure lots of people find it more elegant, but I liked my "gibberish" 22.55.04 # Lars_G: You can compile your own bootloader and restore it - just set "verbose=true" at the top of bootloader/common.c 22.55.30 # linuxstb: Oh I will. danke 22.55.34 # linuxstb: I was waiting for you :p what was supposed to be what first? 22.55.49 # linuxstb: it's about the 6 btw 22.56.03 # alldogship: Just press enter. 22.56.31 # alldogship: But I think the 6 was wrong - what did fdisk display as the start of the second partition when you first typed "p" ? 22.56.39 Join fir3_ [0] (n=fabian@p57b57d3d.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.56.40 # * Lars_G prays someday rockbox will be able to use the USB without touching the OF 22.56.48 # hi 22.56.53 # Lars_G: We're kinda hoping for that by the end of the summer 22.56.54 # linuxstb: I'm starting all over 22.56.55 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 22.57.06 # Llorean: it's one of the SoC projects? 22.57.08 # what player would you recommend for rockbox? 22.57.16 # linuxstb: Deleted those lines, mind if I rafb it and you check those four lines to make sure I didn't fudge it up 22.57.31 # fir3_, what do you want to do with it? 22.57.35 # BigMac: Sure 22.57.43 # Llorean: if the same slav^H^H^H^H Student can rev eng the serial port driver I'll die of extasis 22.57.52 # do you want to record? Color screen? Memory type? 22.57.57 # bluebrother: depends on the price ;) 22.58.02 # linuxstb: partition number (1-4)? 22.58.07 # fir3_: Do you want flash-based or hard disk? 22.58.23 # linuxstb: or first cylinder? (1-912) 22.58.25 # alldogship: Shall we do this in PMs? 22.58.44 # Lars_G, any ideas how much of the serial port is already known? I was considering to build a serial cable ... 22.58.46 # linuxstb: http://rafb.net/p/MPKtM421.html 22.59.29 # BigMac: Yes, that looks fine. 22.59.29 # fir3_, you might want to check out this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide 22.59.29 # Lars_G: We have an advantage with the USB. No reverse engineering. Some datasheets that are apparently somewhat usable for our purposes (the USB hardware is apparently a version of documented hardware that's just used in the portalplayer hardware, from my understanding) 22.59.34 # linuxstb: guess i'd prefer flash, i want long battery lifetime 22.59.44 # Lars_G: The student is actually working on a USB stack itself, which is the key part that needs done now, I believe 22.59.53 # Llorean: that's good 23.00.04 # linuxstb: I think I will try make clean then remaking I guess 23.00.24 # Llorean: speaking of usb stack do you think the IC will support host mode with a good stack? or it's hardwarely impossible? 23.00.29 # fir3_, current flash-based players use the PP chip, which is known to have runtime issues atm 23.00.48 # and i wouldn't like to spend much money on a device i can lose so easily 23.00.52 # Lars_G: Signs indicate that it's likely they will. 23.01.05 # * Lars_G bends over and weeps 23.01.11 # Lars_G: But that's not a guarantee. 23.01.13 # Llorean: the gods bless you 23.01.23 # nano 1G and Sansa are flash based. 23.01.45 # bluebrother: I'm thinking on flashing a 3G too 23.01.59 # bluebrother: if I can lay hands on a SSHDD for it, I will 23.02.02 # 3G is basically unusable 23.02.17 # you get really good battery runtime from iaudio, h100 and h300 series 23.02.23 # i.e. the coldfire based hd-players 23.04.01 # another question is about the size you want to get ... those aren't the tiniest available 23.04.15 Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 23.04.34 # fir3_: What do you call "long" battery life? 10 hours, 20 hours, 30 hours? 23.04.45 # 100! ;-P 23.05.05 # Two M5Ls... 23.05.09 # is there an m5l around? How long would that get? 23.05.09 # above 10 hours, the higher, the better :) 23.05.17 # Bagder: I bet the M5L could get 100 under very, very, very ideal conditions. :-P 23.06.00 # A short WAV file, looped from RAM, CPU clocked as low as it gets, LCD and everything else powered down except what's necessary for output... 23.06.07 # we'll use that number in our new glossy printer marketing material for the big summer sales of Rockbox 23.06.27 # sounds interesting :) 23.06.33 # speaking about battery life and performance... what are the "normal" result of test_codec for mp3 with ~128 kbps? 23.06.49 # RockingD: That's a very vague question. 23.07.06 # I know. I'm getting 112% on my iPod 3G 23.07.11 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 23.07.23 # I mean, I could test it on my gigabeat and get rather ridiculous results. 23.07.25 # just want to have some other numbers 23.07.31 # hmm 23.07.44 # RockingD: Give me a moment, and I'll test on my 4G ipod (Color) 23.08.59 # cool. another result. ~224 kbps vbr gives 106% 23.10.34 Quit SirFunk (No route to host) 23.11.09 Quit alldogship (Remote closed the connection) 23.14.16 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8bde5ef5611a9785) 23.15.37 Join Alldogship [0] (n=Alldogsh@bas3-montreal02-1096680736.dsl.bell.ca) 23.15.37 # RockingD: I don't know if you've tried it, but I think there is a patch on the patch tracker with some MP3 optimisations 23.16.11 # nope. I'm new to this project. 23.16.28 Quit hcs ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 23.16.43 Quit nickspoon ("Leaving.") 23.16.47 # linuxstb: Really? Where is this patch? 23.17.06 Quit ompaul ("have a nice day") 23.17.14 # On the patch tracker... I don't know the number 23.17.20 Quit tholin () 23.18.52 # 6705? 23.19.39 # That's what I'm guessing... seems to be out of sync... 23.19.39 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.21.29 # The problem is... "With this patch the mpegplayer plugin does not compile on Ipod because of overfull IRAM." 23.22.02 # when I tried it a while ago, it didn't compile on my H10 either... 23.22.35 # That's fixable now though - libmad is compiled separately for mpegplayer. But no-one has actually fixed it... 23.23.05 # But I just suggested it to RockingD so he could test it on his 3G. 23.23.29 # RockingD: A 128kbps CBR file is 164% realtime on my 4G ipod. 23.24.02 # linuxstb: thanks. I'll try this patch and compare results 23.24.50 Quit HellDragon ("brb") 23.26.35 Part Soap 23.27.09 Quit Alldogship ("Leaving") 23.28.08 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.29.25 Quit RockingD ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 23.30.07 Nick Soap is now known as NotSoap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.30.09 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 23.32.54 Part lowlight 23.33.53 # RockingD: I've just tried that patch, and the same file now decodes at 175% 23.34.15 # Ah, he left.... 23.35.30 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 23.35.39 # linuxstb: So, with the patch, mpegplayer will NOT compile, but the patch could be changed so that it would compile? 23.35.58 # Yes. Some of the optimisations would need to be disabled for mpegplayer 23.36.22 # Ah, OK 23.39.56 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54bd5d63.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.40.54 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.44.56 # Is there an easy way to tell if a patch has been applied to my source code? 23.45.03 # OK, this is weird... With some functions removed from IRAM, decoding speed has gone up to 183.5%.... 23.45.39 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 23.46.23 # I thought that the IRAM wasn't necessarily beneficial on the iPods. Didn't someone mention that before? 23.46.43 # Yes, I've mentioned it before. The benefit seems unpredictable... 23.46.46 Quit aldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.46.59 # You'd think it'd at least be predictable. Either yes, or no. 23.48.14 # * linuxstb wishes RockingD was around to test on the PP5002 23.50.58 # Should an iPod 5G and Nano get the same results on the same file, or do other things affect the outcome than CPU? 23.51.13 # You're asking me to predict ipod behaviour? ;) 23.51.20 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 23.51.30 # Hehehe 23.51.39 # huh 23.51.52 # I would expect them to be the same though... 23.51.53 # linuxstb: You don't have a built in architecture simulator in your head? 23.52.08 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 23.52.16 # Alright, that's what I was looking for "expected to be the same" 23.52.33 # I may compile builds for my Sansa and my Nano later then, and see if they are. 23.52.54 Join boxrock [0] (n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 23.52.58 # Llorean: Of course if they where made in different seasons and the ram/flash brand differs and the internal chip algorithm or construction is different in theory a non-noticeable difference is possible 23.53.06 # Not the same CPUs, but I'm kinda curious if there's a performance difference in them. 23.53.11 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 23.53.52 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54bf6669.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.54.07 # anybody: i just rockbox'd a sansa, now when i plug in usb, windows says unrecognised ?? 23.54.18 # boxrock: Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode. 23.54.25 # boxrock: Turn off the sansa, and plug in the cable while it's turned off. 23.54.44 # Rockbox on Sansa doesn't have a USB mode, specifically 23.55.26 # ok, so download while it's in sandisk FW? 23.55.30 # Yes 23.55.34 # does rockbox on iriver have usb mode? 23.55.51 # Which iRiver? 23.55.53 # On h100 and h300, yes. 23.56.45 # but not H10 23.56.51 # correct 23.57.20 # ok. sorry if i ask dumb questions. im too tired to RTFM 23.57.31 # midnight here 23.57.40 # Rockbox has usb on the devices that use a hardware usb bridge. 23.57.49 # which is h100 and h300 series. 23.58.11 # it does not have usb for the PortalPlayer devices. Which is Ipod, Iriver h10 and Sandisk 23.58.46 # ok, that's what threw me off, it works on my Toshiba F40