--- Log for 18.05.107 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.58 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.01.16 Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.17 Quit jhulst (Client Quit) 00.01.29 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.01.55 # linuxstb: btw that was just a joke, sorry if it was too informal or something 00.02.55 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 00.03.00 # Lars_G: No problem ;) 00.03.02 # bluebrother: Altough it seems one of the SoC projects is a good usb stack, acoording to Llorean so some devices might get USB mode support after summer (let's pray) 00.03.56 # Lars_G: I know ... I just was referring to the current state. Having usb support in Rockbox would be a great thing 00.04.16 # especially with issues like this mini-hangs-sometimes-on-reboot 00.04.20 # Lars_G: Kick back, take your pants off and relax - this #rockbox afterall ;) 00.04.31 # hit me just of today again. Kinda annoying. 00.05.00 # jhMikeS: the thing is I am not sure if the big heads here are MIT-grade assholes or street-grade relaxed geeks. 00.06.19 # Lars_G: Somewhere in between. 00.06.30 # If /me 00.06.43 # 's head is looking big it's probably encephalitis 00.06.52 # hehehe 00.07.13 Part LinusN 00.07.19 # There are channel guidelines, because the channel is logged and we don't like the log too clogged, so the rules are enforced most of the time, but there's a general acknowledgement that people are humans, so we don't beat down every bit of humor with clubs. 00.08.13 # big heads are usually somewhat strange, but once you are used to it the people here are quite nice. 00.08.35 # * bluebrother likes the friendliness of this channel 00.08.37 # * jhMikeS tries and tries to get beaten but just can't seem to invoke it 00.08.48 # provoke even 00.08.58 # get beaten for what? 00.09.02 # Llorean: Understood 00.09.04 # Just change your name to "forehead"... 00.09.08 # * scorche communicates that jhMikeS hasnt tried hard enough 00.09.11 # LOL 00.09.21 # top posting? almost had it :\ 00.09.44 # sounds like you got cured ;-) 00.09.53 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.10.09 # * petur beats jhMikeS just because he asked 00.10.20 # * jhMikeS learns too quickly :p 00.10.23 # no slapping? 00.10.24 # omg what have I done 00.10.45 # maybe throw forehead around? 00.14.06 # linuxstb: for future reference, "/cs access #rockbox list" will give you a list of ops on the channel 00.17.23 # just one question perhaps a little off topic : do you think that we can use this kind of stuff to stream out the video from a player ? http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20070509/dual-displays-easy-the-tritton-usb-to-vga-adapter/ 00.17.48 Join illriginal [0] (n=illrigin@c-66-229-106-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.18.17 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.18.43 Join daniel2023 [0] (i=d0b4e09e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bac20e33f4299b61) 00.18.44 # toffe82: Probably not, as it requires "USB2.0" speeds which probably means full speed. 00.19.29 # sounds like this is some kind of graphics-card-over-usb thing. Which would require a driver for this "graphics card" 00.19.38 # but on some player the chip is a usb2 (gigabeat) , the one on the dock also 00.19.54 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 00.20.34 # Yes, but can it support full speed serving as host, or high speed serving as host? 00.21.22 # good question :) 00.22.12 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.22.40 # Most USB Host supporting devices seem to not support the fastest speed despite being USB2.0 compliant. 00.24.09 # ok 00.24.32 # i'd assume its a CPU issue 00.24.42 # 480mbit is supposed to be cpu intensive 00.24.48 # I'd imagine it is. 00.24.50 # well relatively speaking 00.24.59 Quit bluebrother ("sleep ...") 00.27.10 # Ooh, I'm on here. LinusN, Bagder, you around? 00.28.26 # Cassandra: on the way to Devcon ? :-) 00.29.18 # Tomorrow, yes. 00.29.50 Quit illriginal (Remote closed the connection) 00.31.05 Join fir3__ [0] (n=fabian@p57B55CFD.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.32.02 Part Domonoky 00.32.18 Join illriginal [0] (n=illrigin@c-66-229-106-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.38.01 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.38.53 Part TrueJournals 00.40.08 # bah, I'll be the last one to arrive, hope I won't wake up anybody tomorrow ;) 00.41.11 Part digerati1338 00.41.57 # you bring beer though 00.42.06 # petur: got a contact number for Linus/Daniel? 00.42.13 # I could do with one. 00.42.26 # I'll PM you the number 00.42.29 # Or Contactor, for that matter. 00.42.31 # Thanks. 00.42.42 Quit fir3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.43.22 # their modilbes are on haxx.se iirc 00.43.25 # mobiles* 00.43.31 Join JurassicC [0] (n=coaltown@dsl081-169-008.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 00.43.43 Part JurassicC 00.43.55 # * petur tries to figure out what JdGordon tried to write :) 00.44.01 Join JurassicC [0] (n=coaltown@dsl081-169-008.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 00.45.31 # Cassandra: getting my PM? 00.46.59 # JdGordon: i see addresses, mail, public keys, maps, but no numbers 00.47.54 # http://www.haxx.se/contact.html 00.48.37 # Wow. I wouldn't put my cellphone number on a public website. 00.48.52 # oh...i was looking at their personal sites 00.49.21 # petur, yeah, sorry. For some reason I wasn't logged into nickserv. 00.50.16 Quit illriginal ("Leaving") 00.52.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.52.37 # wow... 17kg packed 00.52.54 # * petur looks for another 3kg beer :) 00.52.56 # Now pack something other than technology. 00.53.24 # Last time I got a serious once-over in customs when they discovered I had four MP3 players in my bag. 00.53.26 # heh, most of that is beer (well glass +beer) 00.53.37 # I'm expecting the same this year. 00.53.45 # 17kg, must be a lot of dap :) 00.54.10 # (It'd be five if I wasn't using the other one.) 00.54.34 # Five MP3 players really isn't that many, right? 00.54.47 # I mean it's not even a quarter of what Rockbox runs on. 00.55.14 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@24.244.160.233) 00.55.30 # one would be hardpressed to compete with linus 00.56.06 # I think I own more seperate models than any other developer except Jens and Linus. 00.57.15 # Don't you wish you were as cool as I am? 00.57.18 # * petur has only one 00.57.23 # q 00.57.44 # I think I own more identical models than any other developer ;) 00.57.55 # toffe82, what you got? 00.58.53 Part donutman25 00.59.07 # all the toshiba's gigabeat F, X, S and V (4 F, 1 X, 2 S and 1 V) non counting the one non working ( like 10 F and S) 00.59.08 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@24.244.160.233) 00.59.09 # he is keeping toshiba in buisness :p 00.59.29 Join Gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 00.59.54 # iirc, [IDC]Dragon has quite a few identical archos units as well....or perhaps i am getting that from a picture of ones that were not all his 01.00.14 # * Cassandra adds a silly joke to the wiki. 01.00.34 # toffe82, why? 01.01.15 # don't know ;) I bought them cheap on ebay 01.01.34 Quit juxtap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.01.36 # and repair some to feed the dev 01.01.48 # Cassandra: can you work on amiconn to either code up viewports or explain/write up his idea for them? I might have a crack at them after exams (2 weeks) 01.02.05 # JdGordon, I'll mention it to people. 01.02.26 # It's a long overdue feature IMHO. 01.02.27 # JdGordon: you might want to add it to the wiki as well 01.02.43 # cheers 01.02.49 # Like the installer. Which incompetant was supposed to be writing that installer anyway? 01.03.05 # rbutility? 01.03.13 # rbutil, yes. 01.03.24 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.04.31 # actually... I used rbutil recently for the first time and I liked it 01.05.16 # rbutil is fab. It needs finishing though. 01.05.40 # The good news is that thanks to domo...whatshisname it's not too far off. 01.05.54 # I reckon I can tidy it up to release status in a month or so. 01.06.14 # domonoky? 01.06.22 # Yup. 01.07.37 Quit olle_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.07.53 Join webguest56 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b3dbf4efd7ed5ae9) 01.08.01 Quit HellDragon ("brb") 01.08.09 # How do i add themes onto my ipod video 01.08.59 Quit daniel2023 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.11.34 Quit Siltaar ("Aurevoir - www.fdn.fr/~sdescarp") 01.11.53 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 01.17.01 Join Bretto [0] (n=Bretto@69-161-159-96.miamfl.adelphia.net) 01.17.13 # hey guys 01.17.33 # I just installed on a 4g ipod and I can't seem to find what I'm looking for in the manual 01.17.55 # webguest56: most themes should just unzip on your ipod 01.18.12 # basically I'm just wondering what's the "proper way" of adding new music to my ipod? 01.18.31 # do I just add new files anywhere anyhow I please and then ask ROckbox to search and create a database? 01.18.49 # Bretto: either keep using itunes + rockbox database or just drag/drop into a folder tree of your choice 01.19.00 # what are you looking for? 01.19.34 # petur: cool, thanks man...I guess I'm just going to do like "Flac music", "OGG music" etc 01.19.37 # LOL, my scrollbar was a little moved 01.20.01 # Bretto: I'm using /music/A/artist/cd 01.20.26 # petur: that's a lot of typing though:) 01.20.46 # unless you are using Linux? Probably have a nice script to do that for you? 01.21.07 # why? 01.21.28 # Cassandra: nice to see you are going again this year! 01.21.36 # it makes it easier to browse through all my music 01.21.53 Quit obo ("bye") 01.22.31 Quit spiorf_ ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 01.24.09 # hm, do I have to reboot to change themes? 01.24.40 # no, just select it (settings -> browse themes) 01.26.30 # * petur walks off to bed 01.26.39 Quit petur ("Zzzzzz") 01.26.45 Quit x2jmp (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.26.47 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 01.26.59 # * JdGordon hates trying to figure out if a intermittant bug is fixed :'( 01.27.13 # guys, if I run a "svn status" I get some files with an M for modified and some with a ? which are not in the repository. Will a "svn update" delete those files? 01.27.58 # svn update never deletes files you modified 01.28.13 # Bretto: you may need to get the fonts for your themes to work 01.28.13 # it can only delete files which were deleted upstream which you didn't modify 01.28.25 # dionoea: thanks 01.29.58 # I copied some flac files, how do I play them once they are on the ipod? 01.31.52 Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-40-106.hlrn.qwest.net) 01.32.06 Join Alldogship [0] (n=Alldogsh@bas3-montreal02-1096680736.dsl.bell.ca) 01.32.27 # I'm filled with bugs today 01.32.39 # when i unzipped the themes and added them to the ipod they wont open 01.32.51 # all it does is change the color of the background 01.33.53 Quit Alldogship (Client Quit) 01.33.53 # petur: please guide me on how to add themes to the ipod correctly 01.34.29 # webguest56: they likely have errors in them 01.34.42 # which themes dont then 01.34.54 # test and find out 01.34.56 Join Alldogship [0] (n=Alldogsh@bas3-montreal02-1096680736.dsl.bell.ca) 01.35.20 # how should i test them 01.35.31 # to add themes i unzip them 01.35.41 # then drag that file into the themes folder in .rockbox 01.38.32 # The themes are not working 01.38.36 # please help me with themes 01.38.40 # Does anyone know whether the Cowon X5 can be charged through USB with Rockbox? 01.41.17 Quit Alldogship ("Leaving") 01.41.46 # Yes. 01.41.53 # But you have to turn it off. 01.42.38 # How do i add themes to rockbox on my ipod? 01.43.59 # thanks simmel 01.44.39 # I copied some flac files over to my ipod, and now I can't find them :( I should just be able to browse "files" from the main menu correct? 01.45.30 # nevermind... 01.46.10 Part toffe82 01.47.15 # How do i add themes to ipod video correctly? 01.47.53 # the manual covers this...there is no need to repeat the question over and over 01.48.08 # webguest56: dont drag and drop the folder. Just unzip it right to the ipod. 01.49.17 # also make sure you installed the fonts 01.49.46 # do i select the .rockbox folder 01.50.00 # meh I have to redownload the skins. 01.50.01 # or just dra it right to the ipod symbol saying my name on it 01.50.53 # neither 01.51.14 # unzip the compressed file. select the destination as your ipod 01.51.56 # so select all then click extract 01.53.09 Quit secleinteer (Client Quit) 02.01.28 Quit entheh (Remote closed the connection) 02.04.20 # is album art still a "patch only" thing? 02.04.24 Join TekNikal [0] (n=splynxx@CPE000c411a5fdd-CM0016b52f9426.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.04.29 # Guys 02.04.33 # Some help her? 02.04.37 # here*? 02.04.45 # TekNikal: what kind of help? 02.05.05 # Lag help 02.05.16 # > e260 02.05.21 # I can help 02.05.38 # it lags when you are playing a song, correct? 02.05.40 # Whenever i play a song AND or play games it lags tremendously 02.05.43 # are 02.05.45 # yep 02.05.53 # aye 02.05.55 # are you using SVN? 02.06.05 # is it installed? 02.06.09 # or is it used 02.06.13 # where did you get rockbox? 02.06.13 # I got it on there 02.06.21 # Website 02.06.22 # try using a custom build 02.06.23 # the main one 02.06.32 # actually 02.06.35 # the cpchan build works well 02.06.41 # or you could use my digibuild 02.06.47 # http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Korg-MR1?sku=700878 <-- how about rockbox on that thing? :p 02.06.52 # TekNikal: are you talking about playing a song at the same time you are playing a game? 02.06.53 # Compiled Rockbox: chrisjs branch 02.06.56 # yes 02.06.56 # custom builds include patches that temporarily fix the lag problems. 02.07.06 # Im using Compiled Rockbox: chrisjs branch 02.07.18 # That should work well 02.07.23 # unless its out of date 02.07.27 # @scorche whether im playing a game or browsing through songs 02.07.31 # I know cpchan just updated his build today 02.07.52 # and my digibuild is building right now 02.09.45 Quit Bretto () 02.10.30 # try here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=72 look for Compiled Rockbox 02.11.19 # Yeh i got it 02.11.22 # 2 0.0 02.11.32 # o oops 02.11.32 # nvm 02.12.18 # which on 02.12.24 # i was using the cphan one 02.12.30 # I'll try Chris's 02.12.43 # Strange 02.13.07 # Still laggy 02.13.15 # Maybe i changed fonts? 02.13.50 # Nope 02.13.54 # still all laggy =( 02.15.04 # Maybe theme problem?? 02.15.58 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 02.16.37 # ? 02.18.56 Part Llorean 02.19.44 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.20.15 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.20.23 # linuxstb, what did you have to add to the hard drive you replaced on the gigabeat to allow the player to boot? 02.23.19 # It lags when i play a song on my e260 02.23.21 # Help? 02.23.30 # Non of the compiled works 02.23.54 # turn off the EQ, peakmeters, crossfade, etc 02.24.18 Quit bospaadje ("great minds run in great circles") 02.24.58 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 02.27.05 Part nls 02.28.08 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.32.02 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.34.09 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5d881@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b43f2617ccf932c5) 02.34.25 Nick z35_1 is now known as z35 (n=z@adsl-226-225-186.dab.bellsouth.net) 02.34.30 Quit TekNikal () 02.38.19 Quit mark007_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.39.13 Join ivan [0] (i=ivan@ool-182d0d60.dyn.optonline.net) 02.39.19 Join basscade1 [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 02.40.25 Join Gursikh_ [0] (n=khalsa@adsl-68-92-214-157.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 02.44.07 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 02.47.04 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 02.49.32 Quit sneakums (Nick collision from services.) 02.49.36 Nick basscade1 is now known as sneakums (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 02.49.37 Nick Gursikh_ is now known as Khalsa (n=khalsa@adsl-68-92-214-157.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 02.51.30 # Hiya 02.51.33 Part JurassicC 02.51.38 Quit Lars_G ("Leaving") 02.51.50 # scorche: :'( 02.52.16 Quit Gursikh (Nick collision from services.) 02.52.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.52.24 Nick Khalsa is now known as Gursikh (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 02.52.35 # ...what? 02.53.32 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 02.54.42 # iPod got reformatted :( 02.55.06 # and why did you highlight me with a frowny face? 02.55.29 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c8fade3fdc56f89f) 02.56.02 # because you helped me so much 02.56.03 # lol 02.56.12 # and now it's all gone with 1 click 02.56.22 # * scorche shrugs 03.03.49 Quit HellDragon ("brb") 03.04.41 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 03.04.54 # finally got the ffmpeg cruft away from the wma decoder and asf parser 03.05.12 # now i've got a free standing wma to wav program 03.05.26 # using hte latest ffmpeg source for decoding 03.06.11 Join JohnSpiegel [0] (i=824c405d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6d8eaa0754b30232) 03.06.35 Join zivan56-2 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 03.06.35 Quit zivan56 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.08.10 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@71.142.13.77) 03.08.10 Quit zivan56-2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.08.33 Quit Psilonaut (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.08.40 # hello, I'm John Spiegel, and I'm thinking about trying to get RockBox working on the Samsung YP-U2. 03.08.48 # So... uhh... can I have wiki edit permissions? 03.11.05 Join zivan56 [0] (i=402e0323@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e58cdfc7543b469f) 03.12.45 # JohnSpiegel: I think everyone with the ability to do that is on European time, so they're probably in bed 03.13.03 # if you don't hear anything, try again a bit earlier tomorrow 03.14.56 # saratoga: anyone who can edit the wiki can do it...i am just a bit busy atm 03.15.32 # I'm patient... :) 03.15.55 Part Gursikh ("Raj Karega Khalsa!") 03.16.27 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) 03.17.05 Quit jhulst (Connection timed out) 03.22.36 Quit Guile` ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 03.22.41 # I could do it if someone can tell me how. I already have wiki permissions. 03.24.00 # It looks like you need to add me here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup 03.25.41 # yep that looks right 03.27.36 # you should be good 2 go. 03.27.46 # ok, thanks. :) 03.28.10 Quit webguest56 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.28.56 # np;) 03.34.01 # oh wow 03.34.04 # didn't know we could do that 03.34.11 # anyway, i have a question 03.34.13 Quit zivan56 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.34.23 # how do I know if a sansa I order is the Rhapsody one or not? 03.34.32 # do they have different part numbers or something? 03.34.49 # typically, they are called something liek the e260R 03.35.22 # the amazon page is confusing me: 03.35.24 # http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDMX4-8192-Sansa-Player-Black/dp/B000HZ9CCA/ref=acc_glance_ce_main_0_img/104-9767671-7124751?ie=UTF8&qid=1179451925&sr=8-2 03.35.34 # it says e280, but mentions rhapsody 03.35.50 # "Microsoft PlaysForSure Certified ensures that what you buy from PlaysForSure-certified online music stores such as Real Rhapsody will play on your Sansa e200 series MP3 player." 03.35.50 Join webguest97 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-01cd0e5ef8da9e2f) 03.36.19 # Where can i get the instructions on how to load themes onto my ipod video? 03.37.01 # the manual 03.37.33 # saratoga: The only place to get Rhapsody is best buy. 03.37.57 # saratoga: They should alwasy have an R as in "e260R" as opposed to "e260" 03.38.58 Quit Mouser_X () 03.39.06 # so the normal sansa supports rhapsody, but is not a rhapsody model? 03.39.20 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.164.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.39.47 # can someone help me on how to load themes onto my ipod 03.39.53 # i dont think the normal sansa supports rhapsody 03.39.57 # though it might 03.40.11 # i'm just waiting for you RB to be on the 80GB iPod 03.40.14 # actually i'm pretty sure it doesn't 03.40.25 # the manual implies it does, so i guess thats just a normal sansa on amazon 03.41.10 # webguest97: go here: http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=320x240x16 03.42.32 # webguest97: why do you use different nicks? It's a bit confusing 03.43.42 # saratoga: I checked out the link you gave and it looks like a non-R model to me, but I can't be sure. 03.45.21 # thanks 03.45.24 # Where do i out the extracted theme file in 03.45.35 # looking online, rhapsody is just PlaysForSure, so its probably a regular one 03.46.07 # this sucks finally got rockbox on my 60gb photo iPod and mom connected it to my lappy and itunes deleted everything 03.47.45 # Where do i place the extracted them file in my ipod? 03.48.25 # webguest98: just save the zip to your desktop, right click, extract all, select your ipod 03.49.10 # saratoga: when i got mine i was able to get it very cheap with some rebates. I don't know if they are still doing that but you might try a quick search. 03.50.52 # yeah i know, but prices have been rising on the sansa lately 03.51.00 Join EnCoRe [0] (n=svoth1@111-196.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) 03.51.03 Quit webguest97 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.51.34 Part EnCoRe 03.51.36 Join EnCoRe [0] (n=svoth1@111-196.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) 03.51.50 # I need help on a quick question 03.52.09 # I would like to re-install the original firmware on my h10 20gb 03.52.29 # i was a bone head and i didn't save the h10_20G.mi4 03.54.15 # saratoga: i see this as the cheapest e260 atm: http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=4090787&JRSource=linkshare.datafeed.SAD+SDMX44096A7 03.54.37 # encore: do a google search. You can find one online. 03.55.44 # saratoga: that is the store i got mine from too. I only paid 90 something for an e260 with a $30 Mail in Rebate and $10 google checkout discount. 03.55.51 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@85.69.166.179) 03.56.45 # same price as amazon for the e280 though 03.57.02 # think i'm just going to get it there 03.57.10 # is it used? 03.57.11 # i'm still pissed i missed that 148 deal at costco 03.57.15 # no new 03.57.36 # bah the only thing i found was the recovery tool on the iriver website 03.57.47 # its working, yet it is formatting my drive too :-( 04.00.19 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 04.03.28 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 04.05.38 Join illriginal [0] (n=illrigin@c-66-229-106-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.06.07 Quit JohnSpiegel ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.08.03 Quit Alonea (Connection timed out) 04.09.05 # how is the volume issue on the sansa anyway? 04.09.11 # i remember seeing a patch for it 04.09.15 # did that resolve the problem or not 04.09.18 Quit fir3__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.09.58 # as of SVN earlier today the sound is amazing 04.10.30 # the volume goe very high now and the sound is better than the default firmware IMO 04.11.01 # A few patches were just committed that really helped, along with the new sound api patch 04.13.18 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 04.16.24 Quit illriginal ("Leaving") 04.21.40 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 04.23.38 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.23.41 Part EnCoRe 04.26.44 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) 04.28.06 Quit Javacat ("I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!") 04.35.50 # question wrt to Sansa dev't. Would the white screen meltdowns that I see from time to time be expected to be related to memory corruption issues associated with plugins (i.e. games) or RockBox system APIs? Since the plugins run on all platforms I would guess that these are fairly well flushed out by now. However, if that's not the case then this is an area where I could contribute a bit. 04.36.34 Join pilpil [0] (n=OPP@c-68-60-254-132.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.36.58 # hi im trying to find that comparison chart that compares the rockbox to archos firmware can someone link me that 04.40.37 Quit pilpil (Client Quit) 04.42.17 Quit ivan (Remote closed the connection) 04.43.17 # pilpil: this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison 04.45.48 # anyone here good with linux shell scripts? 04.46.35 # Im trying to figure out how to unzip one zip file into another zip file 04.47.00 # or merge two zip files into 1 04.47.23 # I suppose I could do it with a temporary directory 04.50.20 Quit HellDragon ("brb") 04.50.31 # perhaps "unzip -p directory | zip -r filename.zip" 04.52.23 # couple with "zip -u" to update one of the existing zip archives with the extracted contents of the other 04.52.23 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 04.52.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.03.23 Join JurassicC [0] (n=coaltown@dsl081-169-008.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 05.03.28 Join Gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 05.04.19 # hey guys 1- OMG i updated my rockbox after some months and it's AWESOME 2- any place/link/etc I can find what codecs the archos 6000 supportS? 05.04.43 # mp3 05.05.08 # that's it right? 05.05.19 # yup 05.05.27 # mp2+mp3 05.05.34 # ok that's what I thought (and what a quick wiki search reveleaed) 05.06.03 # * scorche never thinks of mp2... 05.12.30 # what is a good site to upload files? 05.12.44 # for others to d/l to i mean 05.15.46 # rapidshare is used by a lot of people, though I don't like it personally 05.19.18 # thanx 05.19.56 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 05.20.49 Quit Alonea (Client Quit) 05.23.52 # I have posted the Gigabeat S frame buffer write code on the gigabeat S wiki 05.23.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo 05.24.20 # under Gigabeat S sig disable and framebuffer write 05.25.57 # amiconn: you doing an all nighter before devcon? 05.31.19 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 05.33.16 # hey zivan56, any news with the tuner? 05.34.33 # still having trouble getting precisions frequencies, although I am getting close 05.36.56 # err precise frequencies, ie 103.5 is tuned to 103.412 05.44.39 Join aliask|uni [0] (i=82c20d67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-33ba96ada793ac5d) 05.48.20 Join saratoga [0] (i=474d0ed3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3b533d16f935ffbe) 05.50.38 Join LycoLoco [0] (n=Lyco@cpe-075-181-041-203.carolina.res.rr.com) 05.51.32 Part LycoLoco ("Leaving") 05.53.12 # looks like a hack is available for the gigabeat s 05.54.49 # Very basic at the moment, but it's a promising sign of things to come :) 05.58.40 # wow theres a manual 05.58.42 # 2400 pages 05.58.44 # for the CPU 05.58.48 # thats unthinkable 05.58.54 # documented hardware 05.59.11 # For the i.MX31? 05.59.19 # yeah 05.59.23 # thats a fun read 05.59.34 # ...very, haha 05.59.37 # Wow, where's that - I've only found a much smaller one. 05.59.49 # it's even a better time trying to find what you need in that thing... 06.00.25 # Yeah, my version is only 108 pages... it doesn't contain much information 06.00.38 # assuming the S gets hacked and rockbox loaded, will floating point codecs be implemented? 06.00.54 Quit jurrie ("Leaving") 06.00.54 # not likely 06.01.03 # Possibly, but they may not get implemented in SVN because it only works on one target. 06.01.10 # exactly 06.01.41 # But the FPU will be a handy thing to have, no doubt. 06.02.03 # ...i was kind of joking since you guys were talking about the CPU 06.02.10 # lol, i think 533 is more than enough 06.02.20 # http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/MCIMX31RM.pdf?fpsp=1 06.03.04 # that manual is very complicated... 06.03.06 # Ah, how did I miss that? I'm staring at the page with that on it... 06.03.09 Join boom82 [0] (n=boom82@032-407-057.area5.spcsdns.net) 06.04.58 # whats it use for display? 06.05.05 # i did't see a controller in the manual 06.05.20 # JdGordon: Nah, just awoke early 06.05.58 # ipu? 06.06.22 # thats the most in depth thing in the manual i could find on graphics 06.07.19 # try starting around page 1863 06.07.26 # oh chapter 44 06.07.28 # how did i miss that 06.07.37 # ipu starts on page 1925 06.07.56 Join dawn^2_ [0] (n=surface@valinor.dawnlink.net) 06.07.56 Quit dawn^2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.08.28 # well that should make writing a real display driver pretty easy 06.08.47 # we should chip in and by bagder one 06.08.52 # he probably can't resist 06.10.47 Join jurrie [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 06.14.35 # Why does "zip -o -r ../rockbox/build/digibuild-$date.zip *" not add hidden files (i.e. .rockbox) to the zip? 06.14.41 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.15.13 Quit jhulst_ (Remote closed the connection) 06.15.31 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 06.23.14 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) 06.25.12 Part digerati1338 06.29.46 Quit boom82 (" oh snap") 06.33.04 Quit pearldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.33.14 Part JurassicC 06.38.40 # i actually have a linux distribution specifically tailored for the imx.31 that i got from freescale 06.39.15 # should be very useful in helping to write drivers. not to mention the manual, and disassembling the firmware driver files as well 06.50.25 Quit aliask|uni ("CGI:IRC") 06.52.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.03.57 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 07.05.39 Quit zivan56 () 07.26.09 Quit amiconn (" leaving for devcon...") 07.39.42 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host193-216-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 07.39.43 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 07.42.07 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 07.53.43 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.54.12 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 07.58.38 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.193.109) 08.01.56 Part kkurbjun 08.03.03 Join HellDragon [0] (i=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 08.05.28 Part maffe 08.12.13 Part toffe82 08.18.25 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 08.19.54 # kkurbjun: 02.20.23 # linuxstb, what did you have to add to the hard drive you replaced on the gigabeat to allow the player to boot? <--- Just the GBSYSTEM folder, nothing else. I haven't tried booting the original firmware though, just Rockbox. 08.26.47 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.27.21 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 08.29.25 # linuxstb_: your going to devcon right? 08.31.18 # wiki says not.. oh well.. if they come online, can you poke amiconn to have a look at FS#7134 from a ondio POV please? 08.36.05 # I won't be around this weekend either, starting in a few hours time. 08.36.49 Join bluebrother [0] (i=K2S8FxTE@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 08.36.58 Join lds [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-40f910b94c776344) 08.39.20 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 08.44.27 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 08.44.50 # hmm ok... Im sure someone will pass the message on or he'll read the logs 08.44.56 # have a good w/e all 08.44.59 # back tomorow night 08.45.05 Quit JdGordon ("cyaz") 08.45.32 Part maffe 08.50.31 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@vc-196-207-45-253.3g.vodacom.co.za) 08.52.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.52.50 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1693D.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.52.59 Part Gursikh ("Raj Karega Khalsa!") 08.52.59 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.59.29 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 09.00.09 # linuxstb, I had some trouble getting a 30 gig HD working that was not originally formatted .. I thought you ran into the same problem upgrading a hd, but I guess not 09.00.31 # I ended up fixing it by doing a low level format and then using the gigabeat formatter tool 09.01.07 # not originally formatted for the gigabeat that is 09.03.14 Quit kkurbjun (Client Quit) 09.09.36 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@45.41.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 09.10.44 # Hi 09.11.02 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.12.47 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c4c163ba8b3733f) 09.14.53 Quit petur (Client Quit) 09.15.04 Join p3tur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e7cffc6ca2d65902) 09.15.29 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e7cffc6ca2d65902) 09.17.09 # devcon day! 09.18.26 # but first: another working day! 09.18.53 # hey, I'm trying to create a good atmosphere here! 09.18.58 # :-) 09.19.12 # let's hope nothing breaks in the tight time-schedule ;) 09.19.33 # alright then: YIHAAA 09.22.13 # Bagder: Before the fun starts, could you move a file to the download server? 09.22.30 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rbutil-v0.3.2.3.dmg 09.22.40 # (Mac OS X version of rbutil) 09.24.09 # will do! 09.24.17 # Bagder: Also, what do you think about adding Toni's sansa emulator to SVN, as well as the new disassembler he's started work on? 09.24.27 # I'd love to see them both added 09.24.47 # That disassembler looks really promising 09.25.48 # rbutil-v0.3.2.3.dmg is now on the dl site 09.26.21 # Thanks, I'll update the wiki. Domonoky has also uploaded a new win32 binary - he's linked to it from the RockboxUtility wiki page. 09.27.24 # ok, I put that on the dl site too now 09.29.20 # Any thoughts about where in SVN these extra tools should go? 09.34.03 # frrrr... recording settings aren't saved anymore :( 09.35.51 # linuxstb: are those sources particularly big? 09.36.05 # if not, I think just in the trunk makes it most conveniant 09.36.23 # I'm not sure - the disassembler is tiny (at the moment...), I haven't got a copy of the emulator to hand. 09.37.13 Quit jhulst_ (Connection timed out) 09.38.32 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.38.57 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 09.44.03 Quit mpeccorini (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.44.12 Join mpeccorini [0] (n=mpeccori@mail1.theargusgroup.us) 09.44.28 Join jaczehack [0] (i=d572f7b7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6654e816a085571d) 09.44.58 Quit jaczehack (Client Quit) 09.45.17 Join jaczehack_deux [0] (i=d572f7b7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-82e10052302449b9) 09.48.19 # Bagder: The emulator source is about 138KB - 8 source files. 09.51.38 Quit bospaadje ("great minds run in great circles") 09.52.42 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 09.56.33 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 09.56.49 Quit HellDragon ("reboot") 10.00.24 Join HellDragon [0] (i=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 10.01.20 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.05.56 Join JurassicC [0] (n=coaltown@dsl081-169-008.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 10.08.08 Join br3nda|mobile [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 10.08.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1693D.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.08.40 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 10.10.56 # linuxstb: small enough to be put in the trunk like rbutil then I think 10.11.22 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 10.13.12 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-4d12ced8b1414803) 10.13.21 # Right. It's Sweden-time. 10.13.36 # See you all on the other side. 10.13.49 # see you later ;) 10.13.56 Quit Cassandra (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 10.13.57 # have a good trip 10.14.20 # eow... 10+ seconds lag :( 10.17.51 # has anybody looked at the Sansa Connect yet? 10.18.38 # looked at? 10.18.40 Quit DarthShrine ("Leaving") 10.19.13 # owned, messed with, thought of porting rockbox to... 10.19.31 # I've seen some dissect pics that's about all I know 10.21.25 Nick br3nda|mobile is now known as Br3nda (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) 10.23.07 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 10.30.17 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) 10.33.32 Quit lds (Remote closed the connection) 10.38.32 Part JurassicC 10.49.44 # shirts arrived 10.52.06 Part Br3nda ("Konversation terminated!") 10.52.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.53.12 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.55.27 # cool. 11.00.47 # * petur waits for the devcon webpage to arrive ;) 11.00.54 # * bluebrother too 11.01.05 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-cc9726edab12e04a) 11.02.24 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 11.02.36 # Bagder: so if you wated to do the skype thing, just install it on a computer with speakers and a mic, and i will set up the conference if you wish 11.02.44 # 4 11.04.00 # I seem to have lost that javascript thing that reloaded the pic only 11.05.30 # what was the first devcon btw? Just found the 2002 page :) 11.06.11 # that was the first, but we called it devcon then mostly for fun 11.06.15 # * linuxstb gueses the first devcon was Bagder, Zagor and LinusN in a bar 11.06.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ http://daniel.haxx.se/devcon2006/ 11.06.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/devcon/ 11.07.12 # Bagder: I have that javascript. have you started with a page already? 11.07.16 # that was 2002 11.07.22 # Zagor: no, just planning for it 11.07.32 # I won't be there until around 21 tonight 11.07.39 # Linus takes the first hit ;-) 11.07.59 # is that script device specific? (ie, could i use it for mine?) 11.08.13 # scorche: the javascript? 11.08.16 # it's just a silly javascript that reloads the picture of a web page 11.08.26 # without having to reload the html 11.08.29 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.08.29 # oh...hrm 11.08.41 Part ctaf 11.09.09 Quit Jon-Kha ("leaving") 11.09.25 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 11.09.34 # Zagor: but we should create a page now and start populating it with details as we go 11.09.49 # possibly we should put it on "giant" from the start 11.09.52 # I just mkdir:ed devcon2007 11.10.09 # goodie 11.10.10 # you have a point 11.10.20 # i still need to figure out what to do via that route for west... 11.10.23 # well, we could put the images there at least 11.12.04 # I'll be there tomorrow to play allan 11.13.03 Join himitsu [0] (n=himitsu@61.213.185.111) 11.13.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/webcam.html 11.13.59 # not that there's any actual image yet ;) 11.14.07 # :-) 11.14.22 # Turn the lights on... 11.14.43 # hez, that image is broken! ;) 11.14.58 # Zagor: we need an index page too with some basic info like time schedule etc 11.15.03 # bluebrother: yeah, but it's refreshing! 11.15.17 # refreshingly broken! 11.15.17 # hehe 11.15.41 # btw, will you save the pictures (or at least some of them) this year? 11.15.58 # yeah, that's the plan 11.16.08 # let's see how things work out 11.18.46 Quit pabs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.19.21 # spect i'll come back to pictures of you all passed out with petur's beer bottles lying around empty 11.19.24 # party hats and all 11.19.26 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3020.gwdg.de) 11.19.37 # haha :-) 11.19.48 # oooh, there'll be hats? yay! 11.19.58 # devparty? 11.21.14 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.21.17 # no, you're not allowed to use the rockbox cups for beer! 11.21.17 # preglow: in case you missed, my luggage is now at 18kg, mostly beer bottles ;) 11.21.20 # ;-) 11.21.30 # ahahaha 11.21.32 # curse you! 11.21.54 # rockbox cups??? 11.22.09 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/mugs/ 11.22.10 # yes blue ones 11.22.10 # when is the beer planned? I should get some for attending with a beer ;) 11.22.44 # wtfroflomg 11.22.47 # me wantey 11.22.51 # * bluebrother wonders about the look of the shirts 11.23.16 # * petur hopes to get at devcon before 23h 11.23.57 # bluebrother: I didn't bother to take any pics of them yet 11.24.14 # perhaps I should... 11.24.44 # Bagder: guessed so ... but as we now have a brokenly reloading webcam picture ... ;-) 11.24.51 Part austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 11.25.08 # gotta go 11.25.09 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 11.29.26 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.32.37 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirts2007.html 11.32.59 # poor photos, but still shows how they look 11.33.10 # oooo...they are quite a bit different 11.33.16 # ghah, me wantey them too 11.33.27 # niiice 11.34.31 # It's wrinkled. :) 11.34.49 # rockbox-wrinkles! 11.36.02 # nice! 11.41.50 # ok, I added some basic data on http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/ 11.46.36 # you got the tshirts today? :P 11.46.47 # hehe, yeah 11.46.48 # how fashionably late 11.47.00 # ooh, that's almost a good pun 11.47.51 # :-P 11.49.35 # actually, it got this late since I was away and couldn't receive them until today 11.49.45 # ah, good point 11.50.09 # but perhaps that spoils the feeling of being in the last minute... 11.50.09 # did you order the same amount of cups as shirts? 11.50.14 # scorche: yes 11.50.25 # 30 11.50.33 # those are going to add tot eh skipping price a bit =/ 11.50.33 # * preglow takes a sip from his vi reference mug 11.50.50 # scorche: I bet! 11.51.00 # preglow: Big mug? 11.51.06 # haha 11.51.14 # you should see the emacs one! 11.51.17 # * bluebrother still needs to buy that mug 11.51.18 # preglow: domt make me take a shot out of my drunk tux typing rm -rf into his laptop shotglass! 11.51.24 # (the vi one) 11.51.25 # hahahahaha 11.51.41 # i don't even have to be drunk to do that 11.51.55 # http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/tux-penguin-shotglass.shtml 11.52.25 # * aliask is pissed off - new drivers from nvidia.com dont detect the card, and i've lost the install disk 11.52.36 # hehe, funny glass 12.03.30 # aliask: sure you're downloading the driver for the correct card? i got a bit surprised the last time i tried to download a driver, and discovered they now have separate drivers for separate chipset series 12.05.17 Part maffe 12.08.46 Join Casanoba [0] (i=4cbaf819@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5003e582efb72052) 12.09.50 Join jSwetz [0] (n=chatzill@41.209.113.183) 12.09.51 # i mest up my ipod nano 2g frst gen how do i fix it.. or get a copy of the firmware 12.10.34 # Rockbox won't work on the nano 2G 12.10.48 # * petur hands bluebrother some glasses 12.10.49 # and this is not a general hardware help channel 12.11.00 # * scorche takes the glasses as well 12.11.05 # petur: thanks. 12.11.30 # do anybody know where can i get ipod firmware tod ownload 12.11.35 # Casanoba: the most common and easiest way is to use the restore feature in itunes 12.11.47 # dosent work 12.11.47 # * petur thinks he deserved lunch and goes for it 12.12.01 # tried emergency disk mode? 12.12.29 # i restored 6 times... the scroll mouse get stock on language 12.12.41 # emergency disk mode? 12.12.49 # scroll mouse? 12.12.50 # how is that 12.13.13 # that's a built-in way to access the ipod as a drive 12.13.20 # without booting the apple firmware 12.13.43 # K" drive 12.14.01 # ? 12.14.45 Quit himitsu (Connection refused) 12.15.16 # gtg 12.15.35 # anybody know how to emergency disk mode? 12.17.39 # Casanoba, Reboot iPod, then hold centre + play as it's booting 12.18.27 # how do i make my ipod boot 12.18.36 # Hold centre + menu 12.19.50 # dosent work 12.20.18 # hold it for 7 seconds 12.22.25 # on the top left i se a lil lock .. i pull the lock 12.22.35 # and dosent unlock is that good? 12.25.08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.25.33 # Casanoba: This is a channel about the Rockbox firmware, not a general ipod support channel, so don't expect people to be able (or willing) to help... 12.26.51 Quit Casanoba ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.32.12 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 12.32.26 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.32.59 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 12.33.14 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.33.43 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 12.33.55 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.34.56 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection reset by peer) 12.35.17 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.37.47 # Bagder: still around? 12.37.54 # yes 12.41.02 Join x2jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p57B0AA9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.41.26 Quit x2jmp (Remote closed the connection) 12.42.41 # bluebrother: he had a 2 gig nano first gen, not a 2nd gen nano 12.47.24 # I'm getting an error when compiling for 30GB iPod 5G. The warning says ' "BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT" redefined ' and refers to these lines in config-ipodvideo.h: 12.47.25 # #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT 1300 /* default battery capacity */ 12.47.27 # ======= 12.47.29 # #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT 400 /* default battery capacity for the 30GB model */ 12.47.30 # >>>>>>> .r13403 12.47.32 # This is the change that Nils Wallménius did three days ago (http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=13395). Could I just erase the first #define? 12.47.46 # please use a pastebin next time 12.47.48 Part juxtap 12.48.58 # sorry, I'm new to IRC.. 12.50.32 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@host-144-219.ch.le.ac.uk) 12.52.26 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.52.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.53.19 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 12.59.06 Quit The-Compiler ("Connection reseted by god") 13.01.34 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@vc-196-207-45-253.3g.vodacom.co.za) 13.01.47 # I'm trying to RMA my Sansa, but it their Support keeps saying I need the model number: "Model Number: starts with SD" 13.03.42 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-153-148.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.05.54 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-084-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.07.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 13.07.21 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.07.36 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 13.07.47 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-012-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.10.43 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.51 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.20.09 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 13.20.22 Join rfmonk [0] (n=rfmonk@216.127.61.152) 13.21.27 Part maffe 13.21.40 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 13.30.43 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 13.31.13 Quit kaaloo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.35.40 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 13.35.45 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496753F.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.36.11 Join aera [0] (n=lava@p54aea58a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.36.43 # good day 13.37.19 # i just wondered if you might be planning on adding Meizu M6 to Rockbox supported players 13.37.39 # well, was just a little suggestion. 13.37.54 # aera: no one is working on it afaik 13.38.35 # hmmm.. ok. well, i hope this changes in the course of time :P 13.39.16 Join fir3__ [0] (n=fabian@p57b57d3e.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.39.20 # aera: there's a wiki page that explains how to start a new port or help with it 13.39.25 # aera: someone who owns the device and is capable has to step forward and do it :-) 13.39.53 # yeah, i do a little C++.. what's rockbox coded with? 13.40.25 # C and asm 13.41.10 # ok.. well, i'm not sure if i'm able to handle such a project, haha, but i'll have a look at it 13.42.31 # i'll help 13.42.40 # but you gotta buy me a Meizu M6 13.42.45 # haha 13.42.52 # sure 13.43.00 # ask my rich grandad 13.43.07 # xD 13.43.10 # :p 13.43.25 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 13.43.39 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 13.44.05 # that thing is a nice one, anyway.. beats the iPod family in like everything and is quite cheap.. (especially bought from china ^^) 13.45.13 # and the firmware.. well, great for a chinese one.. but i have reasons to ask for rockbox 13.48.10 # well, i got to be going.. cya 13.48.32 # (Verlässt) Grund:(.) «~{FSN}~» 13.48.38 Part aera 13.50.58 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 13.52.54 Quit DarthShrine ("Leaving") 13.53.03 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 14.06.29 # I'd like to talk to someone who might know about a potential IP/copyright issue 14.07.24 # contact a lawyer 14.07.37 # Well, it's not that serious... 14.07.54 # It's in regards to contributing to rb source 14.08.25 # is it already an issue? or will it potentially be one? 14.08.35 # Potentially 14.08.54 # See, I have a datasheet which I obtained from a webserver which was left slightly open 14.09.05 # But it usually wouldn't have been available. 14.09.43 Quit boxrock (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.10.33 # aliask: run it past Bagder as a first port of call, but I suspect you won't be able to use it 14.10.59 Join fatman [0] (n=none@c-75-68-207-148.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) 14.11.00 # hello, i am fat-man and i weigh 400 pounds. you can see video of my supreme fatness at www.fat-man.org 14.11.54 Quit fatman (K-lined) 14.12.45 # aliask: I'd say that you could'nt redistribute it but may be able to use it though IANAL... 14.13.14 # but i think talking to bagder is the best idea before you do anything 14.13.29 # Yes, I thought I'd run it by someone before writing the driver. 14.26.17 Part jSwetz 14.29.04 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 14.32.13 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 14.36.41 # * XavierGr is impatient for a working devocn webcam! 14.36.48 # Coole Devcon day today indeed 14.36.51 # -e 14.42.19 Join ColdSphinX^ [0] (n=sphinx@p213.54.47.212.tisdip.tiscali.de) 14.43.29 # hi 14.45.55 # heya ColdSphinX^ 14.46.09 # hi aliask 14.52.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.57.53 Part kaaloo 14.58.07 Quit SirFunk (Remote closed the connection) 15.03.01 Join kevinmorris [0] (n=kevinmor@58.166.13.247) 15.17.01 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 15.27.31 Quit kevinmorris () 15.35.11 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 15.35.36 Join bluebrother^ [0] (i=fwihnSCM@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 15.35.37 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 15.35.48 Nick bluebrother^ is now known as bluebrother (i=fwihnSCM@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 15.40.51 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@wardell.ucd.ie) 15.41.16 Join boxrock [0] (n=chatzill@000-073-259.area3.spcsdns.net) 15.41.42 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 15.44.08 Join boxrock_ [0] (n=chatzill@68.245.65.163) 15.44.41 Quit XavierGr () 15.49.44 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5f099@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cdce8153c257067e) 15.51.34 Join david1 [0] (n=david52@84.72.254.113) 15.52.31 Quit bawb2 ("seacrest out!") 15.54.10 # * petur does the work->home->station->airport->devcon dance, back in a few hours ;) 15.54.21 Quit petur ("later") 15.54.51 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-084-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.59.41 Quit RaRe` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.42 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 16.00.50 Quit boxrock (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.02.45 Join boxrock__ [0] (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 16.02.47 Nick boxrock__ is now known as boxrock (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 16.04.07 Quit boxrock_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.09.10 # markun, what's your feeling on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6920 16.09.59 # I really like it personally, it does make navigation much easier with one hand/not having to try and get to the side buttons 16.11.05 # I was actually just looking at the gigabeat keymap and thought that this was a very strange way to have it. 16.11.16 # guys, beside audacity and sonic-visualiser, is there any app to view frequency spectrum of and audio file for linux? 16.13.24 # aliask, yes, I don't really like having A as the file browser, center cross is much nicer 16.13.44 # it really makes it so you have to twist your hands around to go straight to the file browser 16.13.52 # Does the gigabeat F/X have a dedicated play button on the side? (Like the S) 16.13.59 # kkurbjun: The most recent version of that patch messes up the current keymap though 16.14.18 # kkurbjun: The ONLY change (IMHO) should be that in the WPS, "Select" goes back to the filetree, and "A" pauses. 16.14.33 # It changes several other things too, which I feel shouldn't be changed. 16.14.45 # no play button on the side 16.14.57 # aliask: No. The "A" button should mimic the behaviour of the "Play" button on other players, imho 16.15.04 # llorean, I only really care about select as filetree as well 16.15.16 # the rest should match other players 16.15.26 # kkurbjun: Well, the most recent patch undoes some of the effort to match other Rockboxes. 16.16.07 Join Ghoulio [0] (n=chatzill@194.119-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 16.16.35 # and I don't remember what the others are off hand, ok, I didn't realize that, I was mainly using the menu key and the arrows before because of the select oddity 16.17.05 # Hi chaps: I can easily change 6920 to do what Llorean says - the only reason I changed it more was as I didn't think it would be included 16.17.09 # Basically, as far as I can tell, the only "problem" relative to other Rockboxes is the wrong keymappings in the WPS. 16.17.25 # well, I agree with the select and a change then, that's only in the WPS correct? 16.17.29 # ok, that works 16.17.41 # Llorean: agreed 16.17.44 Quit boxrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.18.15 # In answer to your comments, I changed it more because I only just prefer it that way, and there din't seem to be the desire to commit 16.18.32 # but if there is a commit chance, I'll pop one up that only changes A and select in WPS 16.18.36 # what do you think? 16.18.45 # BigBambi: You should never put things you don't expect to be committed in the tracker. It specifically exists for things you're attempting to get committed. :) 16.18.51 # I would like to fix at least the a and select, and I would be willing to commit it 16.19.11 # I put it there beacuse I thought others might prefer it too 16.19.21 # as long as markun does not ahve a strong opinion against it 16.19.22 # kkurbjun: OK, new one coming up 16.19.39 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.19.45 # bigbambi, great, thanks 16.20.13 # The trick is, if you're making a patch that you don't want/expect to be included, it'll just get rejected and removed. 16.20.15 Join boxrock__ [0] (n=chatzill@000-046-887.area3.spcsdns.net) 16.20.17 Nick boxrock__ is now known as boxrock (n=chatzill@000-046-887.area3.spcsdns.net) 16.20.35 # Patches do get rejected if they're deemed unsuitable, and nobody's going to fix them up. :) 16.20.53 # I undestand - I did want it committed, but just thought the chances were low 16.20.57 # I'll wait till after work before actually doing a commit, I want to give time for any strong objections. 16.21.03 # Back in one mo - reboot into Linux 16.21.06 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 16.21.45 # Reinstalling windows XP to work on the gigabeat s has reminded me how much I dislike that OS. 16.25.10 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@host-144-219.ch.le.ac.uk) 16.25.27 # That took long enough 16.25.33 # I'll do the patch in a mo 16.25.44 Join boxrock__ [0] (n=chatzill@000-109-850.area3.spcsdns.net) 16.26.24 Quit Ghoulio ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 16.26.26 # aliask: the libmtp in linux allegedly has support for the gigabeat S 16.26.39 # ...according tot libmtp's website 16.27.01 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.49) 16.27.04 # But I can't use the firmware updater 16.27.06 # however, i think you need a recent version of it (ie the one in stock ubuntu is too outdated) 16.27.20 # OH. 16.27.30 # happy hacking =] 16.27.36 # :) 16.28.26 # I just realised that a USB stack will be essential for the gigabeat - we can't really use the OF's one 16.28.34 # *gigabeat s 16.29.08 # it doesn't have a hardware one? 16.29.26 # Don't think so. 16.29.29 Join boxrock___ [0] (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 16.29.56 # interesting. i thought the s shared quite a few components with the x/f 16.30.13 # Not really, they're pretty different internally. 16.30.30 # I'm not even sure if they share any of the main ICs 16.30.37 # darn. 16.30.46 # a port has to be from scratch then? 16.31.12 # Yes, but luckily the CPU handles many many functions, and has a very extensive datasheet available 16.31.28 # so it should theoretically be easier to do than the F/X? 16.31.50 # I don't know how hard/easy it will be, time will tell. 16.32.06 # well i meant less guess work 16.32.31 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@dhcp101.contactor.se) 16.33.46 # Llorean: what is your opinion about the remote? Currently, play/pause acts as select - I think it ought to act as A, with mute as menu 16.33.54 # * amiconn says hello from devcon2007 :-) 16.33.55 # amiconn.se :) 16.34.00 # yeah 16.35.26 # Still no webcam :( 16.35.27 Quit boxrock___ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.35.28 # amiconn: who are already arrived? 16.36.02 Join boxrock___ [0] (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 16.36.17 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AD4FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.36.36 # hello to devcon2007! 16.37.36 Join boxrock____ [0] (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 16.37.37 Quit boxrock___ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.38.00 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@dhcp101.contactor.se) 16.38.47 # * pixelma says hej! :) 16.39.33 # hehe :) hi 16.41.53 # * moos says moo 16.42.14 # * bluebrother says npp :) 16.42.40 # lnn, or what? 16.42.49 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.43.06 # LOL 16.43.09 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 16.43.09 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.43.49 # Llorean, kkurbjun: New one up. Let me know if you agree/disagree about the remote. I think the recent SVN changes didn't also change the remote, so I have done. 16.44.08 Quit boxrock (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.08 # I think the play/pause button on the remote is better acting as A, as if you have the main unit in your pocket it is more useful to pause/resume playback than act as select. If it were select you would need to get the unit out of your pocket to see the screen anyway unless you had your filetree really well memorised 16.45.17 Part david1 16.46.35 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.47.31 # BigBambi: What does the "Mute" button on the remote currently do 16.47.32 # ? 16.47.47 # I agree that the one labelled Play/Pause should be identical to A, at least on a short press. 16.47.57 Quit boxrock__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.48.02 # Llorean: mute is currently menu 16.48.09 # That works, then 16.48.13 # cool 16.48.21 # Since from there you can go to the filetree. 16.48.26 # yep 16.48.50 # So all I've done is swap A and Select in WPS, and make play/pause on the remote act like A not select 16.48.58 # I'm happy with it. 16.49.18 # Ace. Fingers crossed no-one disagrees vehemently! 16.49.21 # Yeah 16.52.05 Join sando [0] (i=lolsteam@124-254-76-41-static-dsl.ispone.net.au) 16.52.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.57.17 # Ugh, meeting time. Later all 16.57.19 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 16.59.47 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 17.02.39 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@admin-147-222.potsdam.edu) 17.06.27 Quit DarthShrine ("Be right back.") 17.06.34 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 17.08.16 Join piroko [0] (n=jeremy@dynamic-200-043.natpool.uc.edu) 17.08.38 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.09.18 # Out of curiosity, what exactly causes the ipod's firmware to be able to conserve so much more battery life other than codec optimisations? 17.10.29 # it probably disables some chip or circuit, which we dont know how to disable.. 17.10.53 # or dont know that is exists, no docs for the CPU in the ipods 17.15.44 Join boxrock_____ [0] (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 17.15.46 Nick boxrock_____ is now known as boxrock (n=chatzill@fl-67-76-213-106.sta.embarqhsd.net) 17.16.17 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 17.18.00 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-075-177-158-190.nc.res.rr.com) 17.18.21 Quit boxrock____ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.24.31 Join boxrock_____ [0] (n=chatzill@h46043828.area3.spcsdns.net) 17.26.45 Quit Ave (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.29.25 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-167800add8028fd0) 17.29.26 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@pD9EB2D6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.29.31 # Hej 17.30.03 # hejhej 17.30.38 # i just receved my 2nd 3G iPod :-D 17.30.49 # now i can fix mine 17.30.52 # finally 17.31.42 # the hdd is still working and i got 2136 songs for free :P 17.32.04 # * DerPapst backups iPod_Control 17.33.04 Quit boxrock (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.33.14 # * piroko sings the "You are a pirate!" song from Lazytown 17.36.57 # They were just on the hdd to test the iPod. 17.37.05 # * DerPapst coughs 17.37.16 # * bluebrother discovers some more "happened already" entries on the devcon page but no webcam yet 17.37.41 # over 2000 songs to test an ipod? Aha. 17.37.44 # jepp. broken image 17.37.54 # :P 17.38.20 # he said in the description on ebay that the ipod doesn't boot anymore. 17.38.35 # already fixed? ;-) 17.38.36 # well... that's not true. 17.38.42 # it boots. 17.38.58 # broken ipods are still quite expensive on ebay 17.39.03 # but it's heavily scratched 17.39.08 # at least they were the last time I lookes 17.39.16 # this one was under 40Euro 17.39.39 # and to fix my headphone jack i would have to pay 70 17.39.47 # so a good deal. 17.40.05 # and i can replace my semibroken mobo as well :) 17.40.12 # if you can solder I guess fixing the headphone jack would be cheaper 17.40.41 # it'S a stupid ribbon cable 17.40.44 # but I never tried ;-) 17.41.03 # ah, those things. Bad when they are broken 17.41.17 # i tried to solder it but it didn't work. 17.41.21 # yepp. 17.43.28 # heh.. they wanted to have a 3G on devcon and i have 2 ^^ 17.43.32 Join Gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) 17.44.15 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 17.53.19 Quit mpeccorini ("Client exited") 17.55.58 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.73.118) 18.02.42 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.11.49 Quit ColdSphinX^ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.17.28 Join webguest91 [0] (i=d1ec9efa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0df734a45daf01af) 18.17.31 Join webguest61 [0] (i=d1ec9efa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-13afce4a65466060) 18.17.42 Quit webguest61 (Client Quit) 18.18.34 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 18.20.54 Join webguest09 [0] (i=d1ec9efa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-222e6f829e653eef) 18.21.12 # My computer wont detect my sansa? what shoukld i do 18.21.48 Join webguest63 [0] (i=cd9924ab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eb7fcb02d5094382) 18.22.26 # be careful and check out http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick 18.22.52 # webguest09: do you run rockbox while trying to connect? 18.23.01 # you need to boot into the sansa firmware to get a usb connection 18.24.06 Quit webguest63 (Client Quit) 18.24.07 # no it runs automatically everytime i turn it on 18.24.11 # and it has a -1 error 18.24.30 # so the normal firmware doesnt get detected 18.24.50 # Turn off the sansa 18.24.53 # Plug in USB while it's turned off 18.25.15 # its still doesnt get detected 18.25.25 # and the -1 error still display 18.25.40 # You didn't use the official installer did you? 18.25.46 # You can't get the -1 error if you installed the official way. 18.25.52 # Not while trying to boot the original firmware, at least 18.26.10 # Never mind 18.26.27 # i installed rockbox while it was still in build 18.26.35 # it was never officials and thats what messes it up 18.26.49 # but i returned it back to circuit city 18.27.01 # i was just wondering what might be wrong 18.27.12 # Well -1 means you didn't follow all the install directions properly 18.27.18 # It means that "Rockbox.mi4 wasn't found" 18.27.32 # oh 18.27.49 # are you guys going to make rockbox for nano second gn 18.27.53 # gen* 18.28.09 # Targets aren't really planned 18.28.15 # Someone with a second gen nano would have to work on it 18.28.44 # Can you tell someone t work on it 18.28.56 # i will pay you $25 18.29.10 # Hahaha 18.29.29 # $25 doesn't magically make people have time, or an interest, and porting is hard work. 18.29.34 # Someone has to already be interested in it 18.29.34 # such price for porting is silly 18.29.36 # finding out how to run custom code on the nano for $25? 18.29.47 # You're better off learning how to program yourself, and working on it. 18.29.57 # $1000 dollars 18.30.00 # fine 18.30.11 # the nano 2G is much more work than just a couple of hours 18.30.40 # money won't attract devs. Development is done for fun, not for money 18.30.58 # oh 18.31.07 # then tell someone to do it for fun 18.31.11 # or maybe one of you can 18.31.16 # that's the way open source works. At least, the majority of it. 18.31.17 # webguest09: Do it for fun. 18.31.19 # * Llorean wonders if it worked. 18.31.31 # i dont know how to 18.31.36 # im rockbox dumb 18.31.48 # that doesn't imply you can't change that. 18.31.54 # if u help me out i will be able to 18.31.58 # don't require anyone to work atleast 18.32.18 # ok 18.32.21 # fine 18.32.27 # i just hope someone does it for fun 18.32.33 # i would really appreciate it 18.32.37 # thnx 18.32.41 # many people would 18.32.46 # if you want to seriously work on Rockbox you'll find helpful people in here. 18.33.25 # one of the big problems with the 2G is that everything is encrypted. Someone needs to find out how to run custom code, and in that case it's quite hard. 18.35.00 Join Ave [0] (n=ave@a91-152-238-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.35.58 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 18.35.59 # what does it mean to be encrypted? 18.36.02 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.37.41 # "In cryptography, encryption is the process of transforming information to make it unreadable to anyone except those posessing special knowledge, usually referred to as a key." 18.38.24 # oh that sucks 18.38.35 # then you have to ask apple how to do it 18.38.51 # s/ask apple/crack it/ 18.39.34 # i doubt they would want to let u mess with it 18.39.42 # u ask for me and everyone who want rockbox for second gen ipod nano 18.39.43 # please 18.39.48 # right? 18.39.52 # pretty please witha cherry on top 18.39.56 # if you believe they'll give you any info - you're wrong 18.40.05 # hi aaron 18.40.06 # wats up 18.40.27 # my brother has a second gen and i have a 30g video 18.40.31 # keep talk rockbox related 18.40.40 # he is really jealous cause i have rockbox and he doesnt 18.40.42 # ok 18.40.44 # im sorry 18.40.53 # releate 18.40.54 # i will keep talk rockbox 18.40.57 # d 18.41.11 Quit webguest09 ("CGI:IRC") 18.41.25 Quit webguest91 ("CGI:IRC") 18.41.26 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E0D9.versanet.de) 18.42.14 Join vagabund [0] (i=52870776@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d25f7794c71e67b4) 18.44.18 Quit NotSoap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.44.36 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 18.46.22 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 18.46.43 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.47.42 Quit vagabund ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.52.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.56.28 # weee.. the webcam is up :-D 18.57.11 # hi guys 'n girls 18.57.15 # * DerPapst waves 18.57.21 # a bit empty there still 18.59.04 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp181-118.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.00.58 # ah.. that is going to become better ;) 19.01.17 # w00t webcam is on! Hi gals/gyus. 19.01.24 Quit piroko ("telinit 0") 19.01.38 Join Lars_G [0] (n=Lars_G@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 19.01.46 # I hope you guys can give me a quick hand 19.01.46 # how often does it update? 19.01.59 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 19.02.02 # DerPapst: not at all it looks like right now 19.02.03 # no sorry. quick hands are empty 19.02.19 # yeah I don't see it updating 19.02.33 # my ipod nano rocbox install has troubles, I reinstalled yesterday, since the itunes forced me to reformat it, and I used the nano partition image to convert the part table to fat32 (in case it matters) 19.02.44 # compiled a svn pull of yesterday and installed 19.03.07 # now, rockbox runs, and I could unzip files in the ipod, but rockbox itself can't write to the disk/flash 19.03.11 # Bagder: the image hasn't been updated since 7 minutes or so.. that's why i wondered. 19.03.43 # if i save a config, it says "saved" but if I reset it is not saved. if I save a config (and the file is created) then I can't save any more configs after first write, it says failed 19.03.54 # why did itunes force you to format it? 19.04.17 # im sure thats not supposed to happen 19.04.19 # and if I initialize the database, it can't save configs (failed) and I can't browse files anymore 19.04.46 # if I interactively initialize the database, it reads all the files, and hangs there, I guess it can't write 19.04.51 # the question is... why? 19.04.57 # have you also formatted /dev/sdX2 then? 19.05.01 Quit perldiver (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.05.18 # or only dd'ed the new mbr to your pod? 19.05.20 # badsheepy: suddenly all itunes started reporting the ipod was corrupted and the lists said the easiest route was to restore the ipod. 19.05.29 # So, perhaps the flash is bad 19.05.33 # DerPapst: yes I formated the sda2 partition 19.05.41 # iTunes reports it's corrupted, and Rockbox has problems writing to it 19.05.47 # This does seem to suggest hardware failure of some sort 19.05.59 # then i dunno. maybe Llorean is right 19.06.06 # Llorean: see, thing is when itunes reported it corrup rockbox still could work perfectly 19.06.16 # I reset it only to be able to drag songs from itunes 19.06.33 # So? 19.06.48 # the flash also seems ok since after reiniting it I installed lots of songs on it via amarok yesterday and they're playing perfectly in rockbox 19.06.54 # kkurbjun: I agree with that buttons change too, because most of the targets follow a similar patter in the center button 19.06.57 # does the apple_fw have problems to? 19.07.04 # the trouble only ocurrs when rockbox tries to write. 19.07.06 # Lars_G: Have you done any sort of filesystem check 19.07.06 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.07.12 # DerPapst: no the apple fw works 19.07.25 # kkurbjun: though markun is opposed to that idea, so I don't think he will welcome that commit 19.07.31 # no, let me fsck it 19.07.36 # so it can read (and write)? 19.08.06 # XavierGr: hi, I'm not sure about this, markun isn't a disctator ;P 19.08.14 # dictator even 19.08.57 # sigh 19.09.08 # how was the test mode started on a nano? 19.09.10 # well last time Llorean and me suggested that it should have been changed but markun was a little hesitant about it (I can understand his hesitation though if he is very used to that button) 19.09.45 # nvmk 19.10.24 # but it quite confusing I think, I have 4 rockbox targets and all of them except the gigabeat have the center button go to file browser (while in WPS). 19.10.33 # XavierGr: like always, we don't care at all about OFs behaviours, and that is the only point IIRC then I assume markun will folow the majority (markun: hey ;) 19.10.34 # DerPapst: ok, Apple FW can read, but can't write either 19.11.15 # how have you formatted your iPod? 19.11.26 # XavierGr: I'm all for the coherence too 19.11.28 # moos: I don't know if the current mapping has anything to do with OF 19.11.39 # mkfs.msdos -F 32 -n "xxx" /dev/sda2 19.11.46 # poor markun he must be around an airport atm :P 19.11.47 # that was the main point if I remenber correct 19.11.57 # hehe indeed :) 19.12.03 # what does -n do? 19.12.20 # DerPapst: sets volume name (wich becomes the ipod's name) 19.12.30 # ah. k 19.12.59 # XavierGr: the current GB mapping is one of the points that made me still using my iaudio daily 19.13.33 # the other main point is the insuficent HD (40 GB for now) 19.13.37 # well yes it can be confusing (not so much from keeping me from using it though) 19.13.41 # Lars_G: and if you add -S 512 just to make sure? 19.13.45 Join Viljar`zZ [0] (i=viljark@pc239.host3.trt.starman.ee) 19.14.30 # sigh 19.14.33 # and lose all again 19.14.35 # XavierGr: 2 differents ways for do the same thing isn't very KISS for my taste 19.15.07 # that's a bit a taste of keys imho 19.15.20 # Lars_G: otherwise i'm out of ideas. 19.15.29 # * moos is thinking to his iaudio and ondio with a lack of buttons 19.15.30 # as I said, I agree with the change, I will welcome it for sure 19.15.35 # who is who on the webcam picture ? 19.15.49 # bagder, amiconn and pixelma I guess 19.15.50 # Linus in first point 19.16.01 # linus 19.16.04 # I'll fsck, otherwise I'll reinit it on a windows machine if I can get a friend to loan me a windows machine 19.16.09 # yeah sorry Linus :P 19.16.25 # hehe :) 19.16.28 Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i59F4476F.versanet.de) 19.16.40 # not that Linus and bagder looks the same ;P 19.16.42 # or init it in hfs and shoot myself 19.17.00 # hehe 19.17.02 # where is bagder btw? 19.17.11 # Not yet here 19.17.14 # here in irc :P 19.17.45 # and the snake? 19.17.49 # where's the snake? 19.17.49 # hehe still the same pic :) 19.18.20 # so, any devcon hacks or confernces yet? 19.18.33 # awww.. this semi broken 3G is giving me a headace. 19.18.43 # isn't officially starting tommorow? 19.18.48 # (I guess conspiracy conferences will have to wait until all of the gang is there) 19.18.54 # hehe :) 19.19.37 Join mpeccorini [0] (n=mpeccori@mail1.theargusgroup.us) 19.20.17 Quit bagawk ("leaving") 19.22.55 # fuck this, I'll reformat it as apple again and then as windows tonight 19.24.06 # restore it in wondows. 19.24.16 # it's easier :P 19.25.18 # if you have it 19.25.22 # wondows that is 19.25.31 # * pixelma bets that restoring it in wondows would be harder... 19.25.40 # too slow 19.25.52 Join Soap3 [0] (n=Soap@66.178.210.90) 19.26.06 Nick Soap3 is now known as Soap (n=Soap@66.178.210.90) 19.26.40 # well. but then he doesn'T have to dd a new mbr to the iPod and fromwat it again. 19.26.50 # *format 19.26.54 Quit ptw419 () 19.26.57 # * DerPapst sucks at typing 19.27.01 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net) 19.27.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.69.240) 19.28.00 # sigh 19.28.04 Quit Lars_G () 19.29.00 # are they in the fourth dimension :) they don't move so much 19.30.26 # someone on the Devcon should kick the Webcam :-) 19.31.14 # If the diagnostic mode couldn't write to the flash, I kinda doubt anything he can do will improve matters 19.31.15 Quit DarthShrine (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.31.23 # Linus is typing for hours in the same position :P 19.31.34 # :-) 19.31.57 # * Soap suspects a plot. 19.32.20 # lol 19.33.29 Part maffe 19.33.54 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 19.36.10 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.36.55 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 19.37.50 # I think they just lock the camera because they are behind the wall drinking beer ;) 19.37.54 # nice. me has now the webcam picture in a window without toolbars or borders 19.38.18 Join artistan [0] (i=47d9b580@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1ebd20ba735b31e4) 19.38.36 # wheee 19.38.36 # toffe82: exactly ;) 19.38.46 # toffe82: petur didn't arrive with the beer yet... 19.39.06 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.39.16 # but i bet there are stores where you can buy beer as well 19.39.32 # DerPapst: not at this hour in sweden 19.39.40 # mhh. true 19.39.47 # Bagder: care to add a link like this to the devcon page? I find it very nice ... click here to open webcam window 19.39.52 # quick question, i'm trying to understand the rockbox source code to play with it, where exactly is the entry point in the firmware? 19.39.54 # Either the Sansa needs a lot more shielding than it has, or I think we're doing something wrong. 19.40.08 # There's a ridiculous amount of noise when the backlight is on, and when buffering. 19.41.37 Quit mpeccorini ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 19.41.41 # aren't there any petrol stations where you can still buy stuff? i still have about 18 minutes to buy something :P 19.41.46 Join Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@dhcp101.contactor.se) 19.42.58 Quit artistan (Client Quit) 19.43.13 # Hello from Devcon 19.43.23 # DerPapst, 17 minutes? The local supermarket here closes at 21h 19.43.33 # hej to devcon :) 19.43.39 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 19.44.58 # * DerPapst is putting a graphicscard cooler on his ipod. 19.44.59 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 19.45.11 # it's getting hot ^^ 19.45.56 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.46.06 # now i only need a fan 19.46.07 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.47.40 Quit Thundercloud_ (Connection timed out) 19.48.22 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.49.12 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@pD9EB2D6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.51.41 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.54.16 Join toolmanwill [0] (i=422429fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e9d3c997c3a7acb7) 19.55.10 # hey dont you guys move?? your frozen in time, lol 19.55.59 # no, we never move 19.56.22 # the one moving first looses. You lost :p 19.56.40 # hahahahaha 19.57.04 # so, any way to help you except explaining the movement rules? 19.57.49 # nope am here to check out 2nd anual devcon 19.58.02 # hey, another picture from the webcam :) 19.58.18 # ahh theres movement 19.58.35 # and magically another person appears 19.58.47 # hehe. The magic of open source :) 19.58.53 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.58.56 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host193-216-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.59.45 # its so cool you guys do this. long live rockbox!!! 20.00.08 Join tiennou [0] (i=56db7c3d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f664fac411f7d747) 20.02.51 # hey they moved :) 20.03.08 # I promise I'm not actually asleep. I think the webcam is at a weird angle. 20.03.18 # toffe82, notices Cassandra magically appearing? 20.04.01 # a new picture :Dw 20.04.29 # -w 20.05.44 Quit tiennou ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.05.59 Join tiennou [0] (i=56db7c3d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f7b49d03e4f2072c) 20.06.55 Join leftright [0] (i=549959cd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-45adecc3ab514087) 20.07.01 # Linus says we're four people sitting staring at a webcam of ourselves. Aren't we having a god time! 20.07.10 Quit tiennou (Client Quit) 20.07.41 # * leftright waves at the ladies and gents 20.08.19 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5d881@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-0c1c114ce08f045c) 20.08.23 Join Juice^ [0] (n=Juice@213.167.96.196) 20.08.49 # this feels a bit like stalking, one way webcam 20.09.03 # someone record golden quotes so we can distribute it as first-play-tracks with rockbox ;-) 20.09.52 # pixelma jjust pointed out that all the women involved in rockbox are now at Devcon. 20.10.02 # On that note, I'm off to get coffee. 20.10.25 # heh, outstanding, you should make the guys fetch and carry 20.10.30 # lol 20.10.50 # If the user ratio holds to the developer ratio, that means we should have about 60 developers. 20.11.35 # At least according to the forum software, there's a 30:1 ratio of guys to girls (who've registered and admitted to their gender) 20.13.01 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/svn/ indicates 75 developers 20.13.03 Quit Soap ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 20.13.32 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@66.178.210.90) 20.14.17 # My long term goal is to make Rockbox so mainstream more women will use it. 20.14.21 Part maffe 20.14.38 # putting a mirror on all DAP's 20.14.42 # just make a pink theme .. 20.14.54 # But I still don't think we'll get many developers. Nearly every company I've worked for I've been the only female techy. 20.15.04 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.15.07 # I f***ing hate pink. 20.15.13 # Maybe I'm not a real girl. 20.15.13 # * bluebrother once saw a mobile phone which was indeed a mirror rather than a phone 20.15.30 Part maffe 20.15.40 # thats why the pods have a shiny chrome finish, for the ladies 20.15.42 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.16.02 # Most of the girls I know would prefer to use Rockbox, if they had players that supported it 20.16.09 # but why did apple remove that on the 2G nano? 20.16.13 # Heck, my mother even wanted to purchase a Gigabeat to replace her iPod 5G 20.16.31 # well, drag and drop is way simpler than itunes, methinks.. 20.16.34 # I have to confess to having used my iPod as a mirror now and then. 20.16.47 # Guess my gender is safe after all. 20.16.51 # * pixelma is with Cassandra on pink... 20.17.01 Part maffe 20.17.23 # Speaking of Themes 20.17.31 # Were we? 20.17.39 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.17.45 # Well, someone mentioned a pink one 20.17.49 # paul has an active imagination 20.18.09 # hmm. How about a pink theme for a greyscale target? :P 20.18.10 # Has anyone tried that theme that Denny was offering as an option for Default? 20.18.25 # perhaps you could make a devcon theme :) 20.18.40 Part maffe 20.18.41 # With webcam images? 20.18.45 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.18.50 # why not 20.18.56 # heh, wait hours for it to boot 20.18.56 # sounds cool. Like the truman show poster 20.19.01 # Because it's a really terrible idea. 20.19.05 Part maffe 20.19.20 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.19.33 # or with a bottle of beer 20.19.40 # but definitely not suited for a theme 20.20.04 Part maffe 20.20.08 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) 20.20.31 # but speaking of danny: I looked at the theme, but (as most themes) the greyscale version looks poor compared to the colored IMO 20.20.35 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-084-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.20.38 # and as I don't have any color targets ... 20.20.40 # Llorean: BTW, why is boxes unsuitable as a default theme - does everyone hate it, or is it just that it's a bit out of date? 20.21.02 # (I don't have an axe to grind - I just wonder if it's worth fixing properly or not.) 20.21.09 # Cassandra: It wasn't really discussed, because it was out of date / not all targets. 20.21.29 # I personally rather liked Boxes, but the only ones discussed were ROCKBoxed and iAmp, if I recall, because they had versions for all screens. 20.22.10 # I also guess most people will prefer a proportional font 20.22.31 # Well Boxes works with any 8-high font, right? 20.24.08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4EF2.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.24.24 Quit Rincewind_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.27.28 # lol cassandra, only to think that I've mapped your nick with colour pink on my irc script. (as I have mapped many major rockbox developers with various colours, it seems you got the lucky pink :P) 20.29.00 # Llorean: should be iCatcher not iAmp, right? 20.29.11 # llorean: right 20.29.22 # pixelma: Right 20.29.23 # iCatcher 20.29.35 # * Llorean can't keep themes straight. 20.29.37 # Although I think I used a larger one on the H3xx. 20.30.16 # I'm going to forgive you by claiming it's purple. 20.30.34 # Purple is a find, upstanding color. 20.30.36 # fine 20.30.41 # * Llorean sighs and gives up on typing straight. 20.31.04 # purple is the colour of royality in thailand 20.31.36 # It's royalty in many places. 20.31.36 # (see the web cam) 20.31.45 # * DerPapst spots a pink iPod (?) in cassandras hand 20.31.45 # * leftright is loaded with useless info 20.31.59 # In the old days proper purple dye was vastly more expensive, so royalty and nobility were often the only ones who could afford it. 20.31.59 # It's *purple*! 20.32.02 # heh, way to go your highness 20.32.06 # * DerPapst hides 20.32.36 # All of my MP3 players are silver, black, or a combination of the two, with th exception of the Arhcos 20.32.38 # your wish is my command 20.33.20 # ehm, who is the man with the beard again? 20.34.30 # it's markun or LinusN (with the smaller beard ;) ) 20.34.46 # ah markun arrived? 20.34.55 Join joa [0] (n=joe@cpc4-ipsw1-0-0-cust960.colc.cable.ntl.com) 20.34.57 # * markun has a blue rockbox shirt and beard 20.35.04 # Hello markun! 20.35.06 # oh. I wondered about that too, but the website states markun arrives later ... 20.35.10 # nice to see you on Devcon 20.35.11 # A blue beard! 20.35.25 # lol 20.35.26 Join benanne [0] (n=rijyiohe@98.145-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 20.35.30 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i59F44E27.versanet.de) 20.35.34 # ok ok i shaved this morning 20.35.46 # you guys really dont have to pretend to be busy for us, really :-> 20.35.51 # I didn't/ 20.36.17 # hmm. How much is the lag of the webcam? 20.37.24 # Hello everyone, I've been using Rockbox on my ipod nano for quite some time now, and I thought it'd be interesting to update it sometime... seeing as I seem to recall I have an alpha version on there right now.. at least a year old. 20.37.33 Quit boxrock_____ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.37.54 Join Sivart0 [0] (n=sivart0@wsip-70-182-235-106.ks.ks.cox.net) 20.37.58 # I'm trying to decide whats the best way to go about this... would it make sense to restore it in its original condition (apple firmware) first? Or can I just replace some files and be done with it? 20.38.37 # benanne, update the bootloader using ipodpatcher and unzipping a current build should be sufficient 20.38.37 # benanne: you would also have to update the bootloader 20.38.53 # okay, I'll see where that gets me, thanks :) 20.38.54 # you have to install a newer bootloader and replace .rockbox 20.39.05 # alright :) 20.39.08 # but installing the bootloader got a lot easier since a year ago 20.39.14 # oh, great 20.39.16 # I'll scour the manual 20.39.26 # you can just install it again, it will update automatically 20.39.29 # have to run, happy hacking... 20.39.33 # (the bootloader that is) 20.39.44 # so I just follow the steps in the manual then :) 20.39.47 # hello everybody :P 20.39.52 # yup. 20.39.58 # alright, great. Thanks! 20.42.15 # markun: convert amiconn to gigabeats ; ) 20.44.15 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@mail.timesource.net) 20.44.48 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (i=551e29a1@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 20.45.01 # moos: forget it... 20.45.21 # Hi all! 20.45.39 # pixelma: I know that was a joke :) 20.45.49 # hello Genre9mp3! 20.46.03 Part Sivart0 20.46.42 Join Sivart0 [0] (n=sivart0@wsip-70-182-235-106.ks.ks.cox.net) 20.46.45 # I've made it! I'm out while the Devcon is in place :) 20.47.05 # markun: take the order, I will provide them ;) 20.47.10 Quit joa (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.47.18 Join webguest71 [0] (i=45f85bce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6c4c64f7e012f496) 20.47.18 # Genre9mp3: welcome back 20.47.44 # * Genre9mp3 greets all the DevCon participants! 20.50.26 Quit webguest71 (Client Quit) 20.52.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.57.19 Quit fir3__ (Remote closed the connection) 20.58.32 Quit Sivart0 () 21.00.26 # ei, a new face on devcon.. :-) 21.00.34 # has the beer arrived ? :-) 21.01.05 Join a1titude [0] (n=Compaq_A@206-163-245-140.swcr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 21.01.10 # nope 21.01.23 # why are averyone asking about the beer? 21.01.35 # Because it's a trigger word... 21.01.39 # are we that boring? 21.01.45 # hehe 21.02.02 # hi, I know this is going to sound wierd, but I'm intrested in learning C, can anyone point me in the right direction? 21.02.20 # * leftright points to books 21.02.47 # a1titude: http://www.nongnu.org/c-prog-book/online/index.html 21.03.55 # a1titude: and then write the game of tetris... that should get you going 21.03.57 # ha, was gonna ask about the beer earlier 21.04.02 # thought it was too early tho 21.04.22 # ha, thank you 21.05.09 # a1titude: no kidding - writing a game will make you learn, and the graphic output gives instant feedback on mistakes - good luck! 21.05.12 # so linux then... I've used Ubuntu Before, but it seemed kinda bloated... And recomendations on one? 21.05.31 # quite a collection on DAP's on those tables :D 21.05.52 # *of 21.06.00 # a1titude: ubunutu is good - arch is good - use xubuntu for lightweight 21.06.02 # a1titude, that's quite a different question -- too much opinions out there. Personally I prefer fedora 21.06.27 # lot of DAPs on Linus desk....me jealous 21.06.28 # ha, thanks I have VMWare, so I guess I have freedom to experement 21.06.39 # for small things, i like debian net installs 21.06.39 # at the risk of starting a flamewar, I think any aspiring developer should really be using fedora or gentoo 21.06.50 # gentoo is a gimmick os :P 21.07.02 # * bluebrother notices a flamewar trigger :p 21.07.07 Join webguest01 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-40cfabd58c8fc378) 21.07.11 # gentoo looks really good, just the 20 hour and such setup haha :p 21.07.15 # you can even develop rockbox on windows, so OS dont count here :-) 21.07.22 # How do i get all the good font that are on word onto rockbox on my ipod? 21.07.36 # word? What is that? 21.07.44 # *g* 21.08.22 # on microsoft word 21.08.25 # sorry about that 21.08.34 # i meant the fonts that are on microsoft word 21.08.38 # * bluebrother sighs 21.08.44 # yay, the new version is installed :) 21.08.53 # you mean the true type fonts that are available on windows 21.08.54 # now I need to reinstall the skin 21.09.05 # bluebrother: yes 21.09.17 # a bleeding edge system is essential for a developer, especially a developer who is in it for the learning 21.09.20 # there's a converter in the forums, just search for it. But it will most likely not look good because of interpolation 21.09.36 # Rockbox uses bitmap fonts while ttf is a vector format 21.09.42 # then where do i get the fonts from rockbox? 21.09.53 # ha 21.09.56 # you installed the fonts package, did you? 21.10.24 # i see naked markun 21.10.24 # oh, shirt switching time? 21.10.30 # oooh! 21.10.34 # ;) 21.10.42 # yes, baby blue is so pase 21.11.21 # yes i have installed the fonts package 21.11.29 # Whats a bleeding edge system? 21.11.39 # something that hurts using ;-) 21.12.06 # "bleeding edge" usually refers to a system with all packages being up-to-date, if not even newer. 21.12.24 # Rockbox shirt upgrade completed ;) 21.12.29 # id completely disagree 21.12.45 # a bleeding edge system means binutils breaks for no reason and you have no idea why for 13 months 21.12.52 # we have bleeding edge shirts 21.12.54 # *g* 21.13.36 # lol 21.13.38 # too much of a bleeding edge is bad even for a learning environment. Gentoo is arguably heading in that direction. 21.13.39 # ha 21.13.55 # Linux From Scratch is definitely too much of a bleeding edge and for that reason I would not recommend it 21.14.31 # moos: I'll do my best :) 21.14.38 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 21.15.22 # what is there in the mugs, beer or not yet ;) 21.15.31 # only coffee so far 21.15.31 # ^^ 21.15.41 # isn't the beer still travelling? ;-) 21.15.56 Quit webguest01 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.16.03 Join webguest02 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f370a823e3000795) 21.16.03 # lol its till in transity 21.16.07 # oops transit 21.16.18 # The fonts that i got from the package are very wierd 21.16.32 # they are called like nimbus and other wierd ones like that 21.16.37 # how do i get the better ones 21.16.40 # Thanks everyone, you've been a big help, now to start testing linux distros in vmware! haha 21.16.49 # make them yourself? 21.16.55 Mode "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 21.16.55 # do they come with the theme 21.17.08 Topic "no - the beer hasn't arrived yet" by LinusN (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 21.17.44 # haha 21.17.46 Join Lars_G [0] (n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 21.17.49 # I am at work 21.18.25 # webguest02, define "better". The fonts might have weird names in your opinion, but that doesn't imply they look bad. 21.18.29 Join webguest26 [0] (i=422429fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b507cf288bf0ed3) 21.18.32 Part a1titude 21.18.42 # * dan_a realises why he isn't at Devcon! 21.18.43 # in fact. simiply converting vector fonts will look worse 21.18.44 Quit webguest26 (Client Quit) 21.19.06 # dan_a: because of the beer? Or the shirts? 21.19.17 # ;) 21.19.26 # fuck all three, beer shirts and that nifty mug 21.19.46 # bluebrother: No beer there yet :D 21.19.54 # hehe 21.19.54 Quit webguest02 (Client Quit) 21.20.15 # oh, fontguest left. 21.20.21 # i dont see any gigabeats on the tables 21.20.24 # lol 21.20.53 # pearldiver: look closer 21.21.33 # oh there's one, at least it looks like a gigabeat 21.21.33 Quit toolmanwill ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.21.38 # pearldiver: I hold mine up 21.21.52 # haha 21.21.53 # see it 21.22.01 # markun: has one! 21.22.04 # LinusN also got one 21.22.04 # it glows lol 21.22.55 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@dhcp101.contactor.se) 21.23.20 # moo 21.23.32 # will you publish best shots from webcam ? 21.25.15 Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6F4B4.versanet.de) 21.25.55 # B4gder has super cow powers? 21.26.04 # And in the latest Devcon news. Still no beer. 21.26.18 Join webguest49 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-af46b24f4fad27f6) 21.26.35 # can someone please assist me on how to load the ipod linux boot loader 21.27.26 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.27.42 # linus and christi took off for food 21.27.59 # webguest49: ipodlinux bootloader isn't supported by rockbox, try #ipodlinux 21.28.12 # any news on the e200 radio support? 21.28.18 # webguest49, you can load IPL using the Rockbox bootloader 21.28.22 # yes it is supported 21.29.11 # no: Loader2 supports loading Rockbox. Loader2 isn't supported by Rockbox 21.29.14 # obo_: I'm going to have a play with the SD card and the radio tonight 21.29.40 # dan_a I heard that it's usable, just not loud enough? 21.29.54 # obo_: I believe that's about right 21.30.06 # obo_: I thought that the volume problem had been solved, but the tuning wasn't accurate 21.30.06 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.30.18 # with the loader 2 i can select when first turing on the ipod what i want to run, the apple version or the rockbox version rite 21.30.24 # But I've not been keeping up with Rockbox lately 21.30.35 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.30.46 # you can do that with the rockbox bootloader too, you only won't get a nice graphical screen 21.30.49 # dan_a : is that issue specific to the radio, or the entire DAC? 21.31.02 # but again, Loader2 isn't supported here -- it's IPL software, not Rockbox 21.31.03 Quit obo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.31.18 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@CPE002078c67dd3-CM0011ae015168.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.31.24 Quit obo_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.31.57 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.32.03 # i downloaded the rockbox boot loader but doesnt work 21.32.11 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.32.20 # in order to go to the regular apple version i have to keep the hold on while turing on the ipod 21.32.30 # obo: As I understand it, the radio was a lot quieter than the other audio 21.32.37 # webguest49: that's how it's supposed to work 21.32.43 # dan_a: wrong obo :( 21.32.52 # so that is what the boot loader does 21.33.13 # webguest49, "doesn't work" is quite a bad description. 21.34.14 # as I said, there is no graphical chooser. 21.34.41 # and for loading IPL using the Rockbox bootloader you need to set it up properly -- it won't work out of the box 21.34.50 # webguest49: if you want loader 2 make sure you are using the latest version (2.5). Otherwise you might not be able to start rockbox. 21.34.53 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc5-brig8-0-0-cust142.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.39.00 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 21.42.22 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5f099@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-189e4b2989789204) 21.44.13 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host193-216-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.47.38 Quit webguest49 ("CGI:IRC") 21.48.35 Part leftright 21.48.44 Join Rincewind^moep [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E3CC.versanet.de) 21.50.57 # Hey it says I need SDL for making the simulator, but I can't install it through sudo apt-get install SDL 21.51.03 # what should I be typing 21.51.35 Quit alberink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.09 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 21.52.34 Quit dan_a (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.48 # * alberink congratulates the developers on another DevCon. Have fun 21.52.54 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 21.53.20 # * alberink can't wait, and therefore cracks open his beer already... 21.54.13 Quit dan_a (Client Quit) 21.54.57 # BigMac: install libsdl1.2-dev 21.55.22 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.55.57 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 21.56.13 # nls: ah thanks 21.56.38 # yay 21.56.41 Quit Rincewind_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.56.44 # * chrisjs169 is getting an RMA :) 21.57.01 Join webguest63 [0] (i=485a9c9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e4ba5556bd97dbc1) 21.57.11 # How do i install rockboy onto rockbox? 21.57.13 # BigMac, apt-cache search is sometimes quite nice ;-) 21.57.20 # webguest63, you don't install it. 21.57.27 # why 21.57.29 # rockboy comes shipped with a standard build 21.57.39 # it's a viewer. Just run a gameboy rom file 21.57.39 # then how do i put it on my ipod 21.57.43 # the manual explains this. 21.57.48 # which manual 21.57.53 # the rockbox manual 21.58.04 # for ipod video sinice i have an ipod video 21.58.08 # take a look at the left-side menu of the website 21.58.27 Join JurassicC [0] (n=coaltown@dsl081-169-008.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 21.58.48 # there is a section labelled "documentation", and that has a link called "manual". Try following this link 21.59.11 # webguest63: all you need to do is find a gameboy rom, save it to your ipod and open the file in rockbox 22.00.01 # oh ok 22.00.16 # follow the blue link :) 22.00.49 # as you found the irc link I bet this isn't hard to do. 22.01.27 # i went to a website called PDroms 22.01.31 # and they have gamboy games 22.01.37 # i just extract them to my ipod 22.01.41 # and it will work 22.01.56 # * dan_a wonders why "food" is in quotes on the Devcon page 22.03.00 # Well, I mean, I eat Taco Bell, but some people might hesitate to qualify it as just food, without the quotes to suggest there could be some argument 22.03.12 Join leftright [0] (i=549959cd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3fa0dee5a387112f) 22.03.45 # Its not working 22.03.52 # i put the game onto my ipod and it didnt work 22.03.53 # It just sounds to me like LinusN and Christi have slipped out for... something other than food 22.04.13 # beer? 22.04.18 # ah, forgot the topic ;-) 22.04.36 # is there any chance of making the record button on the h1xx series do something usefull, i.e. quick access for playlist 22.04.39 # * dan_a pours himself another Stoli while waiting for Rockbox to compile 22.04.55 # what's the machine on the front left (camera wise) table? 22.04.55 # leftright: Well, it does need to do something, yes. 22.05.17 # Help me on Rockboy please 22.05.25 # activating recording would also be nice 22.07.14 # webguest63: What have you done, and what happens? 22.07.16 # dan_a: prosit! Although I'll keep it to Grolsch 22.07.39 # i went to PDroms.com 22.07.50 # then i extracted the game onto my ipod 22.07.57 # and under files it says the games name 22.08.00 # but doesnt work 22.08.26 # please refine "doesn't work". What exactly happens? 22.08.32 # What extension does the game have? IIRC, it should be something .gb 22.09.24 # its a GPE file 22.09.34 # actually 22.09.37 Part leftright 22.09.41 # where can i find roms from anyways 22.10.05 # not here for sure 22.10.14 # then 22.10.15 # where 22.10.24 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 22.10.25 # ask google 22.10.32 # what is gpe? 22.10.39 Part norbusan 22.10.43 # webguest63: GPE files appear to be for the GP2X 22.10.53 # oh 22.12.25 # an overview picture with a who's who on the webcam would be nice... :) 22.12.39 Join Psilonaut [0] (i=DaPhunka@77.206-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 22.12.43 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@203.145.159.41) 22.13.13 Quit webguest63 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.13.13 # markun is second from right at back from what I know 22.13.31 # hey anyone plays spider solitare on the computer, can v port it to rockbox 22.13.36 # who's the guy with the wrong shirt? 22.13.37 # looking at webcam he's from left 22.14.12 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 22.14.48 # damn I stated it wrong 22.14.54 # it's not the wrong shirt, it's THE ORIGINAL :-) 22.15.10 # desowin: I should be in the middle now 22.15.11 # currently 3rd person looking from left is markun 22.15.31 # ah :) 22.15.59 # is amiconn at the right of you markun ? 22.16.10 # I mean your left 22.16.19 # yes, my left 22.16.31 # sitting next to his sister 22.16.49 # That's his sister?... 22.16.54 # ok, from left to right it's Zagor, Bagder, markun, amiconn and pixelma 22.17.06 # * alberink always thought that amiconn and pixelma were a couple... 22.17.10 # and the front is Cassandra on the left, and LinusN on the right 22.17.13 # * Zagor runs around to confuse people 22.17.16 # * alberink hangs head in shame... 22.17.19 # someone correct me if I'm wrong ;-) 22.17.25 # what pictures are these markun 22.17.28 # alberink: wow... 22.17.38 # Zagor: heh, you have different shirt ;-) 22.17.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/webcam.html 22.17.55 # pixelma: sorry... :) 22.18.04 # * alberink assumes too much... 22.18.04 # did it already happen ? 22.18.16 # AceNik: happening right now! 22.18.20 # oh ya i forot ul met up today 22.18.24 # to assume is to make an ass of u and me.. 22.18.49 # Cassandra looks great when she has her face on monitor 22.18.52 # oh, a big face in the cam ... 22.18.59 # and assumption makes an ass out of u and some poor guy called "mption" 22.19.32 # Thanks, desowin. :) 22.19.58 # Cassandra, is that thing in front of you a tablet pc? 22.20.10 # I was wondering the same... 22.20.21 # looks a bit strange for a usual laptop 22.21.20 # [16:04] what's the machine on the front left (camera wise) table? 22.21.23 # It is, yes. 22.21.41 # * alberink trembles with jealousy.. 22.21.47 # I'm using a seperate USB keyboard and a portrait orientation. 22.22.03 # Don't be too jealous. It's a 1Gz Pentium M. 22.22.22 # Yeah, I know... Local IT guys weaned me off one also... 22.22.59 # so how is the devcon goin so far 22.23.14 # AceNik: look at topic 22.23.15 # Still no beer. 22.23.24 # Apparently this is important.# 22.23.38 # it is :p 22.23.38 # inebriation always is... 22.25.46 Quit Gursikh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.26.16 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC") 22.26.20 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.199.98) 22.28.51 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.29.07 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 22.32.34 # spot the non-rockbox target on linus' desk! 22.33.11 # I thought there were two... 22.33.23 Join cynicalliberal [0] (n=alexande@c-24-7-158-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 22.33.25 # hmm. Nano 2G? 22.33.44 # uhm, right there are two... 22.33.49 # Some tiny player on his left? 22.33.50 # someone please zoom LinusN's desk for target identification ;-) 22.36.36 Join mpeccorini [0] (n=mpeccori@mail1.theargusgroup.us) 22.39.11 # Hi all, I have submitted a small patch to add a menu to chessbox, should I expect the patch to be reviewed/(hopefully) commited any time soon or is everybody focused on Devcon right now? 22.39.13 # dominik u thr ? 22.39.48 # mpeccorini: I guess I could take a look at it 22.40.03 # devcon should rather be a better chance to get it in 22.40.08 # WOW ! thank you very much markun ! 22.40.23 # btw, I really like the "Skip The in arist"-feature that "recently" came in. 22.40.46 # I wouldn't normally ask about this, but I need the patch commited so I can start in a whole new set of other features ;) 22.41.54 # * chrisjs169 hopes this RMA doesn't take long... 22.42.03 Quit Zagor (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.42.20 # B4gder: I thought Devcon was more like a gathering to "talk" about the development rather than "work" in it. I'm I wrong? 22.42.30 # I think we'll manage both 22.42.38 # cool 22.42.50 # most of the time we will sit like this and stare at the webcam 22.42.58 # I hope one day I'll attend one 22.43.29 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.43.34 # by the way, I was willing to ask, what does it take to become a "developer"? 22.43.46 # not that I'm asking for the title, just want to know 22.43.51 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.44.02 # Submit patches. Demonstrate clue. 22.44.14 # Oh, and send me lots of money in a brown paper bag. 22.44.20 # if you write good patches, one day we will get tired of committing them, and you will get your own svn account 22.44.25 # :):):):) 22.44.27 # why brown paper bag? 22.44.38 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 22.44.39 # white bags are illegal in sweden 22.44.43 # how about ping? *g* 22.44.48 # s/ping/pink/ 22.45.05 # they don't exist! 22.45.16 # right, it was purple 22.45.26 Join mutantpineapple [0] (n=dan@87.112.29.218.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net) 22.45.40 Quit Genre9mp3 ("CGI:IRC") 22.46.08 # my daughter has some multicoloured, I might send you one of those 22.46.10 # If you're going to give me money, it can be in a pink bag. It can even be fluffy. 22.46.15 Part TrueJournals 22.46.35 # i'll keep that in mind 22.46.48 Join k0rnz [0] (n=chatzill@udp191313uds.hawaiiantel.net) 22.47.07 # hey, how about adding a paypal donation banner to the webcam image? 22.47.13 # does anyone know if rockbox has a built-in ebook reader for ipod 5th gen models? 22.47.24 # well, a more "technical" question, what is it left to port Rockbox to iPod Nano 2nd gen? 22.47.27 # "donate now. may use paypal. may use pink paper bag. just donate now." 22.47.37 # mpeccorini: Well, everything after "Think about starting one" 22.47.38 Join webguest03 [0] (i=cd9924ab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5e760cf92bcedf95) 22.47.47 # I see 22.47.48 # k0rnz, what do you mean with ebook reader? Like text to speech? 22.48.05 # no to display pdf ebooks on ipod 22.48.12 # thru the notes feature 22.48.14 # you mean a PDF reader? 22.48.19 # yeah something like that 22.48.26 # there is no pdf reader. 22.48.40 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.48.42 # you can view plain text files, but that's it. Not even a html viewer exists 22.48.44 # k0rnz: There is no "Notes" feature in Rockbox, either 22.48.45 # I don't see myself reading a book in my iPod :( 22.49.02 # ok thanks 22.49.10 # * bluebrother whispers "pdftotext" 22.49.11 # rockbox is awesome btw... 22.49.17 # bluebrother: I think I say an html viewer patch somewhere 22.49.23 # uncommited of course 22.49.28 # i'd read books on mine 22.49.38 # not exactly -- it's a "strip html to txt" thing 22.49.41 # We'll perform tricks for donations. Linus has said he'll do a striptease if we get 1000 pounds. 22.49.45 # yeah i need to convert a bunch of study guides to txt to read on my ipod 22.49.45 # well 22.49.47 # thanks and bye 22.49.51 Quit k0rnz (Client Quit) 22.49.53 # Or was that *unless* we get 1000 pounds. 22.49.55 # yes, is something like that 22.50.18 # Unfortunately, you can't hold the webcam audience captive because they can just close the window 22.50.24 # Unfortunately, there are those of you stuck there in person... 22.50.36 # Hmmm text to speech book reader would be cool 22.50.48 # definitely cool ! 22.50.50 # tts is a SoC project iirc 22.50.53 # Lars_G: I hope it will be done after the summer 22.51.00 # Llorean: there was a Ray Bradbury story. 22.51.04 # bluebrother: yes, I'm the mentor 22.51.14 # markun: :) 22.51.34 # let's see how much time I'll find during this summer ... 22.51.41 # Llorean: About a woman that begins teaching in a school... martian I think, where all classes where done via "tv", and teachers had to devise tricks to keep their audience captive. 22.52.05 Quit BigMac () 22.52.16 # Llorean: She comes from a classical teaching environment, and decides to setup a live old style classroom teaching. 22.52.37 # you can put a "mistery phrase" contest, so ppl has to look at all the words 22.52.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.53.29 # and the winner gets to send Cassandra an orange envelope full of money :) 22.53.42 # orange and fluffy 22.54.22 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.54.23 Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5f049@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-01e907a181db346c) 22.54.30 # what currency? Lire? Pesos? Rubel? 22.55.06 # Colones from El Salvador (my country) 22.55.36 # mpeccorini: Ah nice to see a southamerican. 22.55.47 # El Salvador is not in South America ! 22.55.52 # it's in Central America 22.55.58 Join a1titude [0] (n=Compaq_A@206-163-245-140.swcr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 22.55.58 # ;) 22.56.07 # :P details 22.56.21 # like 3000 kms of details 22.56.51 # sounds like neighbourhood :P 22.57.13 Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6F3DB.versanet.de) 22.57.18 # I was exagerating, it's only about 1000 :p 22.57.50 # are you all european? 22.58.07 # not all ... me is. 22.58.21 # I'm not. 22.58.33 # I live in the USA 22.58.45 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.58.49 # I guess the people on the list for DevConWest2007 are all from america 22.59.14 # I think they all are from the US, yeah 22.59.18 # Llorean: so you know where my country is, I hope. your country is packed with our people hahahaha 22.59.21 # * bluebrother remembers http://rasher.dk/rockbox/people/ 22.59.42 # no no no not all US :) 22.59.51 Topic "The beer has arrived!" by LinusN (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 23.00.01 # \o/ 23.00.19 # toffe82: give us a couple more decades 23.00.28 # bluebrother: According to that we've got a lot of developers I've never heard of. 23.00.35 # Ladies and gentlemen, we have BEER! 23.00.42 # whats the difference between blue dots and red ones? 23.00.43 # ladies and gentlemen, give the beer^H^H^H^Hpetur a very warm welcome :) 23.00.57 # Cassandra, mail it to rb-dev ;-) 23.01.10 # Oh, also Petur. 23.01.13 # DerPapst: Blue == Developer, Red == User, in theory 23.01.19 # Still, it's not all bad. ;() 23.01.20 # hey guys check this site out www.openmoko.org , will it be possible for rockbox to join hands with them to make a common device with them 23.01.22 # ah 23.01.32 # Yay! You have to try the Tripel Karmeliet 23.01.52 Join element_g [0] (n=g-force@S0106001346a401fd.ed.shawcable.net) 23.01.57 # AceNIk - I wrote to them a while back expressing interest. Never had a reply. 23.02.12 Quit Rincewind^moep (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.14 # mpeccorini: I was saying that people at devconwest are not all from US but leaving in the US 23.02.42 # cool.. there is one dev from berlin :D 23.03.32 # Soap here? 23.03.36 # DerPapst: just 1? 23.03.40 # DerPapst, where are you located? (me isn't in Berlin) 23.03.59 # Cassandra: well would rockbox be interested in such a project ? 23.04.04 # i'm from berlin 23.04.13 # Cassandra: or would it be a total diversion ? 23.04.23 # but right now i'm in dresden (250km in the south of berlin) 23.04.26 # toffe82: sorry, the lines crossed :p 23.04.29 Join zivan56 [0] (n=not@64.46.3.35.novuscom.net) 23.04.41 # AceNik: depends - how much money do you have to pay us. 23.04.54 # I'll port Rockbox to anything for 20,000 UKP. 23.05.05 # to my car? 23.05.07 # DerPapst, I know germany a bit ;-) 23.05.14 # LOL 23.05.23 # haha I would love a rockbox car! haha 23.05.43 # Cassandra: you telling me , it can be ported to even nokia phones? 23.05.55 # sweet! Never thourght of that 23.05.55 # Sure, Linus. Just hand me the money. 23.05.59 # AceNik: Yes. 23.06.59 # i need rockbox on my tshirt 23.07.00 # But you probably don't want to exchange a phone for an MP3 player. 23.07.43 # we would need a rockbox "cell phone" plugin 23.08.03 # lol @ webcam 23.08.10 # oh, the last pic of the cam was hillarious 23.08.18 # linus you are the greatest! 23.08.21 # ] intgr: well looking at what the future of the phone industry is i think they going in on developing a full trottle device , check sony's 4G phones, they like a computer 23.08.29 # How come Cassandra has all the beer?! 23.08.50 # can we have a close up on the beer P) 23.09.07 # AceNik: Well, Rockbox isn't an application, it's an operating system. 23.09.13 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.20 # finally, life 23.09.22 # Not just beer. Chocolate too. 23.09.53 # It looks like Bagder has all the crisps, though 23.10.04 # hey, I bought them! ;-) 23.10.07 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 23.10.43 # let the gaaaaammmmes begin! 23.10.48 # * bluebrother waves around with his arms 23.10.54 # ] intgr: check pvt 23.11.10 # one cpu is busted and makes everything hang. that was fun locating... 23.11.31 # AceNik: If by "pvt" you mean private messages then I haven't received it, since unregistered users cannot send PMs on Freenode. 23.11.58 # ] intgr: will u join a channel then ,id be drifting away from rockbox fr a while 23.12.11 # so who wants an athlon mp2200+ for coaster? ;) 23.13.02 # AceNik: I'm not even a Rockbox dev/user yet so I'm not sure if I have much to talk about. 23.14.02 # My webcam feed just cam up as green!? is this a glitch in the download of the image? 23.14.23 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.14.24 # Yes 23.14.33 Join leftright [0] (i=549959cd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-003a9a39786cf5d6) 23.14.34 # thanks 23.14.38 # tada... 23.14.39 # I sometimes have distorted pictures too ... guess this is caused by the webserver serving incomplete images 23.14.47 # * bluebrother waves at petur 23.15.02 # well it adds some exsitement to the feed! haha 23.15.05 # that beer needs to be chilled 23.15.19 # typo *excitement 23.15.34 Join florin [0] (n=florin@dslb-084-056-074-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.15.35 # hmm, I can't see petur -- is there that much lag with the webcam? 23.15.42 # * leftright puts nag hat on 23.15.43 Join Sivart0 [0] (n=sivart0@wsip-70-182-235-106.ks.ks.cox.net) 23.15.49 # hello everybody 23.15.56 # hello 23.16.09 # i have problems installing rockbox on a 5g 30gb ipod 23.16.13 # * Sivart0 steals the beer 23.16.15 # can anyone help me? 23.16.25 # florin: What kind of problems? 23.16.28 # florin, only if you tell us your problem 23.16.30 # it mainly stops at "Device is not an iPod" 23.16.33 # :-) 23.16.42 # though i know it _is_ one. 23.16.44 # is the AppleOS working? 23.16.49 # yes, it is. 23.16.56 # Have you ever installed anything else on it before? 23.16.56 # any plans for the H1xx record button ?, seems a waste to let it go unused 23.16.57 # you're probably giving the wrong number to ipodpatcher 23.16.57 # but the story is actually longer... 23.17.05 # do you have admin rights? (assuming windows= 23.17.14 # ok 23.17.17 # the whole story: 23.17.26 # mpeccorini: ipodpatcher automatically detect, you don't give it a number. 23.17.28 # i'm working on macosx or, at choice, on linux 23.17.35 # it's (it was) a macpod. 23.17.40 # how many of you agree to this 4G phones basically a mini computer will dominate every device ? 23.17.42 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 23.17.51 # check out sony's 4G phones 23.17.55 # Llorean: what? I had to give it a "device" number 23.17.59 # now it's being recognized as a "winpod", after lots of tippity-tap... 23.18.02 # mpeccorini: How long ago was this? 23.18.07 # mpeccorini, that was changed a while ago 23.18.11 # AceNik: This is not a phone channel 23.18.15 # probably a month ago 23.18.43 # all im saying is considering to port rockbox on phones, all the more cause there is going to be a time things will combine 23.18.56 # it was changed earlier. But you can still give it that number, so ... 23.19.01 # AceNik: The fact that they're basically computers suggests Rockbox should NOT be ported to them 23.19.02 # copying the mbr from rockbox.org's server to /dev/sdb (or /dev/disk1 for that matter) didn't do it... 23.19.08 # got it, got it 23.19.16 # AceNik: If they're multi-purpose computers, they don't need an operating system, they need an application. 23.19.18 # so the conversion was a bit tricky 23.19.27 # AceNik: we port rockbox to everything people do it for 23.19.44 # i dd'ed the original apple firmware from the original macpod to /tmp/firmware 23.19.47 # AceNik: sure, why not? 23.20.01 # then started "fdisk /dev/sdb -b 2048" 23.20.09 # and created windows partitions 23.20.28 # but the reason i say to port it as a operating system is because its a better thing as one , which will not serve justice to it as an application obviously 23.20.29 # AceNik: People on computers want an *application* for listening to music, not replace their operating system. 23.20.32 # maybe someone want to add the names? http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/rockbox/DevCon.jpg 23.20.38 # hmm -- the 30GB has the 2048 block size? 23.20.39 # partition table looks like: 23.20.42 # Disk /dev/sdb: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes 23.20.42 # 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 912 cylinders 23.20.42 # Units = cylinders of 16065 * 2048 = 32901120 bytes 23.20.42 DBUG Enqueued KICK florin 23.20.42 # Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 23.20.42 # /dev/sdb1 1 3 96264 0 Empty 23.20.43 *** Alert Mode level 1 23.20.43 # /dev/sdb2 4 912 29206170 b W95 FAT32 23.20.54 # (sorry for the intrusion :-) 23.21.08 # dd'ed /tmp/firmware back to /dev/sdb1 23.21.10 # florin: go ahead, we're reading 23.21.18 # ] intgr: no one knows what extents rockbox can go to by poting them to better devices 23.21.19 # florin, please use a pastebin for pastes like that 23.21.21 # and then mkfs.msdos on /dev/sdb2 23.21.39 # copied the apple itunes directory structure back to /dev/sdb2 23.21.44 # a voila -- a windows ipod :-) 23.21.46 Part leftright 23.21.52 # apple is happy, ipod is happy, itunes is happy... 23.21.53 # AceNik: Rockbox would be a TERRIBLE operating system for a multi-purpose device. It wasn't designed as one. 23.21.55 # AceNik: Rockbox is a simplistic RTOS, a single application can easily take down the whole device; you don't want that on a computer. 23.21.56 # DerPapst, too bad petur is missing 23.22.02 # but the ipodpatcher is not :-( 23.22.11 # Yes. 23.22.17 # florin: what is the exact mkdos command? 23.22.28 # mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdb2 23.22.40 # you'll have to add -S 2048 23.22.41 # optionally mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdb2 -s 2048 23.22.57 # i mean -S 2048 23.23.01 # i think ipodpatcher checks for some magic on the drive.. i dont know for sure. 23.23.14 # Domonoky: As long as the MBR got applied properly, the magic *should* be there 23.23.21 Join Alberio [0] (n=chatzill@c-69-138-206-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 23.23.25 # yep. somewhere on the fw partition 23.23.27 # im saying it can be possible to boot into or switch it into a different mode 23.23.37 # yes, i assume there's where the problam lies: i'm pretty sure that my partition layout differs from that of a winpod. 23.23.42 # (in partition sizes etc). 23.23.53 # florin: You need to use the MBRs from our site, or it won't work. 23.24.10 # AceNik: There's just no point in doing that. It's basically saying "A bunch of extra work should be done for no real benefity." 23.24.23 # You'd have to write drivers for all the hardware, etc, instead of just having an application. 23.24.26 # ok, i'll try... i ran into problems with that (linux wouldn't recognize the partition sizes correcly...) 23.24.39 # florin: 15gb partition instead of 30? 23.24.40 # but i can give it another try with you guys around :-) 23.24.43 # yes 23.24.51 # Yeah, there was something wrong with the file. 23.24.53 # and the firmware partition was too small. 23.25.00 # Unfortunately, I'm not sure we've got a good one yet, though 23.25.08 # something like 10-30 MB (don't recall quite correctly) 23.25.16 # my firmare is somewhere around 65 MB 23.25.24 # (or at least the dd'ed file) 23.25.28 # Llorean:agreed, given up , but there is a point somewhere if rockbox needs expanding anytime with popularity & mass of people usin it , it has to be this kind of a device 23.25.37 # thats right so far :P 23.25.43 # AceNik: No, it doesn't have to be to that sort of device, at all. 23.25.49 # It *can* be 23.25.59 # so what now? download a new mbr and try it again? from linux? 23.26.07 # Llorean: i just feel since rockbox has come this far , it should expand with either its own device or something like that 23.26.13 # Then do it. 23.26.27 # florin: you can use what ever os has dd. 23.26.29 # florin: I'm not really sure, honestly. Try to catch linuxstb, maybe, he might have an idea. 23.27.12 # Llorean: you said something was wrong with the file... 23.27.18 # Yeah 23.27.25 # did you mean the original file, or my download? 23.27.29 # The original 23.27.34 Part TrueJournals 23.27.56 # aha. 23.28.01 # Now, it's possible to install Rockbox without the user of the iPodPatcher tool at all. 23.28.07 # It's just a lot less fun. 23.28.25 # florin: you can ask on the forums if anyone with a 5.5G 30GB can give you their mbr 23.28.38 # DerPapst: Or better yet, ask them to upload it to the wiki page. 23.28.45 # yes, i'll do that... 23.28.54 # but what about that ipodpatcher-less install? 23.28.54 # Llorean: yepp. 23.28.57 # Llorean:so what do you use for ipods now , like you need patcher for the bootloader right? 23.29.02 # oh, webcam broken? :'-( 23.29.03 # i'm keen :-) 23.29.21 Join ild2webguest [0] (i=59f56d5b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2d99f790af8727ce) 23.29.32 # AceNik: You don't need iPodpatcher for the bootloader, it's just the easiest method to install it. 23.29.37 # yeah, I lost the webcam feed 2! 23.29.55 # Llorean:then which is the ther method ? 23.30.09 # DerPapst, http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/DevCon2007.jpg 23.30.12 Part ild2webguest 23.30.22 Join ilikedirt [0] (n=frede@i59F56D5B.versanet.de) 23.30.35 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 23.30.36 # nice :) 23.30.44 *** Alert Mode OFF 23.30.56 # florin: First you need a raw .bin of the bootloader, rather than a .ipod. I'm not sure how to do that, I know it's converted to .ipod during the compile process so I assume you can just remove that step, I'm not sure if it's reversible (as an alternative) 23.31.04 # bluebrother: wrong... 23.31.09 # picture again :) 23.31.16 Join Rincewind^moep [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E57D.versanet.de) 23.31.29 # pixelma, what's wrong? 23.31.32 # florin: Then using the "Linux Users" directions from here (horribly outdated, but I think they *might* still work) you might be able to figure out what to do 23.31.42 # that guy you called Zagor is petur - Zagor is missing on the pic 23.31.53 # d'oh! 23.32.00 # AceNik: The old process had you use dd to extract the firmware partition, the ipod_fw tool to extract the firmware and merge it with the bootloader, then dd to write it back 23.32.05 # Llorean: they don't work for 5.5G iPods. 23.32.08 # but wasn't that Zagor's place? 23.32.15 # DerPapst: At all? 23.32.23 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.32.23 # * petur feels so last year with the blue shirt 23.32.30 # ipod_fw creates a corrupt image 23.32.33 # Ah. 23.32.42 # florin: Ignore me. 23.32.46 # he can try out scrable though 23.32.57 # no more "half" webcam pics now 23.33.09 # pixelma, better now? 23.33.10 # Just DD over a bootloader, no merged firmware? Break dual boot, but you'd at least have Rockbox 23.33.19 # but that will "delete" the original fw 23.33.25 # Llorean: ignore you? 23.33.27 # sorry petur :o 23.33.40 # florin: My instructions wouldn't have worked apparently, the ipod_fw tool isn't compatible with 5.5G 23.34.17 # bye guys have fun 23.34.18 # so no rockbox for me yet, right? 23.34.22 # I'm thinking 23.34.38 Part AceNik 23.34.43 Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6EE15.versanet.de) 23.34.43 # florin: you can replace the original os with rockbox 23.34.54 # ok with me... 23.34.58 # :-) 23.35.11 # woudnt it be possible to use the "wrong" mbr and recreate the Fat32 partition ? 23.35.35 # then ipodpatcher should accept it.. 23.35.38 # you'll have to build the scramble tool. it's in SVN 23.35.39 Quit Alberio ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]") 23.35.46 # waaaaaait 23.35.52 # Another idea is to just extract your current MBR, add in the "magic" that iPodPatcher looks for, and write it back. 23.35.57 # Domonoky: might be worth a try. 23.35.58 # you can completely remove the apple OS? OO_O 23.36.00 # * Llorean doesn't know what that magic is. 23.36.03 # Sivart0: Yes 23.36.11 # Makes booting a bit faster, too. 23.36.14 # hm... 23.36.17 # =o 23.36.22 # or comment the check in ipodpatcher an recompile it :-) 23.36.22 # ok, how? 23.36.23 # * Sivart0 drools 23.36.29 # Domonoky: That would work as well. 23.36.35 # where's the souce? 23.36.36 # I've petitioned to give iPodPatcher a --force option 23.36.36 # florin: try out the mbr from the 80GB 5.5G iPod 23.36.43 # and fix it in fdisk then 23.36.50 # DerPapst: That'd have an oversized firmware partition 23.36.53 # 120mb instead of 80mb 23.36.56 # i know 23.36.59 # Extra room for the hibernation image. 23.37.00 # Sivart0, ipodpatcher -wf rockbox.ipod 23.37.32 # Sivart0: Be aware you should ipodpatcher -rf apple_os.ipod and keep a backup of that somewhere in case you ever want to restore it. 23.37.59 # cool 23.38.00 # you can even run apple_os from that file afterwars iiuc 23.38.03 # bluebrother: I prefer to -wf bootloader.ipod personally. Makes the boot take slightly longer, but it means not having to -wf every Rockbox update. 23.38.06 # the source for ipodpatcher is in SVN in rbutil/ipodpatcher, if you can compile its probaly the easyest.. 23.38.07 # so what is the first beer you drink ? 23.38.20 # Llorean, I did it that way too :) 23.38.23 # * DerPapst points Llorean to: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes 23.38.30 # ahm... wait, i'm starting to lose you guys... 23.38.37 # so he dosn't have to make a backup :P 23.38.45 # trying to understand: 23.39.00 # if i break my ipod's firmware, i'm able to restore it with itunes, right? 23.39.03 # damn, I don't have a beer around 23.39.11 # florin: yes 23.39.11 # florin: yes 23.39.20 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.39.20 # woohoo i was faster :P 23.39.43 # ok. 23.39.58 Join raphi [0] (n=Raphi@pub082136121134.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) 23.40.16 # now about that MBR: if i messed it up, after re-partitioning, it sould be sane again (provided that i did a sane repartitioning) right? 23.40.26 # beer 1: http://www.trappistwestmalle.be/en/page/tripel.aspx 23.40.30 # and i already know how to do all that linux crap xD 23.40.43 # >_> i've messed up my firmware partition many times 23.40.50 # hmm. Is there a beer agenda? 23.40.52 # (too :-) 23.40.53 # damn ipodlinux 23.40.57 # ok. 23.40.59 Part Lars_G ("Leaving") 23.41.11 # florin: try out the mbr for the 5.5G 80GB iPod and fix your mbr afterwars. 23.41.16 # bluebrother: yes, at the bottom of the devcon wiki page ;) 23.41.24 # now i do have a working ipod, with original firmware. iknow how to re-create that from scrach (done like 10 times today :-) 23.41.24 # maybe ipodpatcher is still happy then 23.41.36 # thanks, just noticed it. But the upcoming beer isn't announced ;-) 23.41.48 # now. 23.41.58 # or is that planned for tomorrow? 23.41.59 # my options are (1) patch ipodpatcher and recompile 23.42.05 # (2) patch my "working" MBR 23.42.11 # with the rockbox-magic 23.42.19 # i would choose (2) :P 23.42.21 # or (3) install rockbox as the only os 23.42.28 # petur, :D 23.42.41 # or (4) come up with a solution cleverer than those we've suggested. ;) 23.42.47 # :-) 23.43.00 # i think (2) sounds like the most sane sollution. 23.43.07 # 5) wait for someone elses MBR.. 23.43.13 # I think (1) is actually the most sane. 23.43.14 # I know I'm asking for my head to be bitten off here, but is the 80GB ipod going to be looked at at the Devcon? 23.43.16 # making a dd of the MBR, and then? 23.43.16 # (5) wait until it fixes itself 23.43.31 # ^would be 6 23.43.31 # Since it probably just involves commenting out a check or two. 23.43.39 # wooo! 23.43.43 # (7) wave a dead mouse over the 'pod? 23.43.49 # I'm not sure what (2) needs to be done. 23.43.59 Quit gotthardt ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") 23.44.00 # well. this time ignore me and do waht Llorean said ;) 23.44.01 # I have no idea what iPodPatcher is looking for that yours isn't giving it. 23.44.07 # does anybody has a URL to the source of ipodpatcher? 23.44.16 # i could figure out what it does... 23.44.17 # it's in svn 23.44.32 # And you'd probably have to open up iPodPatcher and ask it what it's looking for, and once you're there you may as well just comment out the look rather than taking that information and hacking up an MBR with it :) 23.44.45 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher/?pathrev=13403 23.44.46 # tower time! 23.44.52 Part ilikedirt ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 23.45.57 # (apt-get install svn....) 23.46.06 # cool. 23.46.07 Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.46.10 # what's the smallest my firmware partition can be? 23.46.16 # * bluebrother does the tower-dance 23.46.24 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.46.33 # Sivart0: How big is the bootloader.ipod for your target 23.46.35 # * dan_a giggles at the DAP tower 23.46.55 # dan_a, seen the dap tower of last year? 23.47.00 # ah, right. what about that ipodpatcher generating broken patches for 5.5g? 23.47.20 # but as the family grew, let's wait for this years tower ... 23.47.21 # hmmm... pretty small 23.47.28 # florin: ipod_fw is the program that's broken for 5.5G, not iPodPatcher 23.47.43 # bluebrother: No, I wasn't around at that time 23.47.51 # Sivat0: 1MB is enough then :P 23.47.54 # at what point does that one kick in? 23.47.55 # me neither, but there is a picture online 23.47.58 # :P 23.48.11 # smallest i can make it is 8mb >_< 23.48.13 # (sorry for asking dumb questions... i'm new here :-) 23.48.20 # florin: ipod_fw isn't used at all, or shouldn't be. 23.48.29 # right 23.48.29 # ah ok. 23.48.46 # dan_a, http://daniel.haxx.se/devcon2006/ 23.48.55 # anybody know how to make only a 1mb partition? 23.49.05 # with fdisk on linux 23.49.20 # choose "+1m" as end sector 23.49.26 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 23.49.30 # switch to sectors. not clusters :P but i think 8MB is small enough 23.49.40 Part kaaloo 23.49.42 # 8mb is too big! 23.49.53 # SVN problem 23.49.55 # svn co http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher/ 23.49.55 # svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher' 23.50.14 # florin, replace http:// with svn:// 23.50.16 # heh 23.50.30 # that wouldn't work either 23.50.31 # and no viewvc .. 23.50.31 # ah, and that viewvc.cgi in there won't work 23.50.44 # how do i switch to sectors? 23.50.47 # svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk 23.50.49 # the URL is: svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk 23.51.04 # :-) 23.51.15 # and the add /rbutil/ipodpatcher 23.51.24 # thankx 23.51.26 # if you only want to co ipodpatcher 23.51.27 # :-) 23.51.41 # it even compiles :-) 23.52.06 # * bluebrother wonders if we get a close-up of the tower 23.52.17 Quit Rincewind^moep (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.52.23 # I hope austriancoder manages to get his USB driver written - I don't like having to go into the original firmware to upgrade! 23.52.49 # hm. 23.52.53 # something's fishy. 23.52.55 # I would love it if I never had to enter the OF on my Sansa. 23.53.05 # That stupid database updating it does. 23.53.05 # it checks agains 55aa on the last 32 bit 23.53.19 # but my mbr _does_ have 55aa right back there! 23.53.19 # wee.. nice "Tower of Daps" 23.53.28 # that's usual for a partition table 23.53.38 # but ipodpatcher does a couple of other checks 23.53.48 Quit Rincewind_ (Connection timed out) 23.54.10 Part raphi 23.54.14 Join raphi [0] (n=Raphi@pub082136121134.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) 23.54.36 Join btdubs2 [0] (i=89a5f099@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-3637ba1618da7399) 23.54.43 # it also checks the boot sector of the data partition afaics 23.54.55 # ipodpatcher.c:175 23.55.12 # >_< 23.55.31 # s/of thedata partiton// 23.55.58 # i'm still trying to figure out what goes wrong, brb. 23.56.43 # is May 18 going to be the first commit-less day of the year? 23.56.51 # grrrr 23.56.55 # i dont wanna rebooooot :( 23.57.07 # no, there were commitless days before 23.57.16 # should I do one? 23.57.32 # yes :) 23.57.41 # It'd be wrong if development stopped because of devcon! 23.57.47 Quit Rincewind (Connection reset by peer) 23.58.21 Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-40-106.hlrn.qwest.net)