--- Log for 10.06.107 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 15 hours ago 00.08.41 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-515609f0e041cda6) 00.13.38 Join _BigMac_ [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 00.13.46 Quit _BigMac_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.14.41 Join RaRe` [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 00.20.21 Part maffe 00.20.43 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 00.20.47 Quit SliMM ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.21.12 Quit datachild ("Strålande, pulserande pina, förädlad i sinne, kött och själ!") 00.23.12 Join datachild [0] (i=misaer@root.is.what.i.wanna-be.org) 00.23.32 # is petur around? he wasn't getting my messages because i wasn't identified to nickserv >_< 00.23.36 Join SliMM [0] (i=5622eafa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c37d0ee77464eb3) 00.23.52 # here's an interesting bug 00.24.00 # here's an interesting bug 00.24.22 # its a double bug 00.25.26 # if the playback is paused and i rewind/fast forward it starts playing, but the playback status is still flagged as paused and i have todouble click on the pause buttonfor pausing 00.25.28 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.25.46 # sorry for double posting 00.25.54 # SliMM: that is known 00.26.03 # oh 00.26.09 # :) 00.26.16 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7257 00.28.23 # bye 00.28.31 Quit SliMM (Client Quit) 00.30.33 # * ender` yawns 00.32.30 Quit RaRe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.33.22 Quit Buschel_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.34.22 Part TrueJournals 00.35.17 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 00.41.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7276 00.41.12 # wow 00.41.31 Quit gandhijee ("Leaving") 00.42.46 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.44.35 Part n1s 00.45.24 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.45.49 Quit Rob2222 () 00.46.08 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b16914.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.47.10 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 00.50.33 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.50.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.50.53 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54bf688c.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.53.57 Quit Robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 00.56.44 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.59.57 Quit ender` (" I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. -- Noel Coward") 01.08.45 Join Bigavsha [0] (i=5898bbe9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-55bf7d0fe876f9fb) 01.08.54 # Help! I'm a noob needing help 01.09.00 Part Dark_Apostrophe ("ALL MY IRC ARE BELONG TO /dev/null") 01.09.13 # Can anyone help me? 01.09.17 # I have an iPod 01.09.29 # and I downloaded the FMpresets to it 01.09.33 # for Tel aviv 01.09.44 # but I don't know how to turn on the radio on this ! 01.09.47 # help?! 01.10.09 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-74-73-158-167.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.10.28 # help please 01.11.13 # please read the manual 01.11.19 # and have a bit of patience please... 01.11.31 # I read it 3 times 01.11.38 # and I still dont have a clue 01.12.01 # well, ipods dont have a radio.. 01.12.22 # It says to put the .fmr files wherever u want or even in the .rockbox/fmpresets folder 01.12.31 # the device has to have a radio 01.12.41 # Oh.. I know, but I thought I'd be able to open it with the iPod.. =\ 01.13.03 # shit 01.13.05 # ok thankx 01.13.06 # if the device doesnt have a radio, how do you expect to listen to it? 01.13.21 # dunno, thought the Rockbox enabled it 01.13.35 # how can it enable something that isnt there? 01.14.02 # the hell I know 01.14.20 # oh, and another thing, how do I go back to the regular operating system? 01.14.32 # read the FAQ 01.14.35 # I did 01.14.43 # then read it harder 01.14.47 # is that what's called "Disk Mode"? 01.14.51 # no 01.15.01 # I'm afraid to erase everything in here 01.15.13 # why do you need to do that? 01.15.29 # and I've clicked the reboot thingy several times, the "select" + "menu" 10 seconds thing 01.15.53 # could you tell me or what? 01.16.19 # tell you what? 01.16.50 # how to go back to the regular iPod operating system 01.17.00 # the FAQ tells you 01.17.27 # dunno where the FAQ are 01.17.58 # YOU SAID ABOVE THAT YOU READ IT BEFORE 01.18.02 # whoops...caps 01.18.38 # the ones in the forum? 01.18.48 # there are no FAQ in the forum 01.19.23 # do you know... or not? 01.19.24 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 01.19.56 # i do, but it is in the guidelines of this channel that you are supposed to have read the manual and FAQ before you speak 01.20.01 # see the link in the topic 01.20.16 # I guess 01.20.21 # but I'm kinda lazy 01.20.45 # so being lazy means that you dont have to follow the guidelines? 01.21.45 # Bigavsha: A starting point - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines 01.22.14 # yeah I got it 01.23.14 # I don't have time to search through all these questions 01.23.31 # could you reveal the big secret to me? 01.24.01 # the "table of contents" is the big secret...you find which question you have and click on it 01.25.04 # can't find it there 01.25.11 Quit fiftyfour123 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") 01.25.27 # begging you to tell me 01.25.33 # cause I can't find the question there 01.26.29 # you dont see " How to start the original Apple Firmware"? 01.26.43 # are you asking about FM on an Ipod? 01.26.48 # i don't think thats even possible 01.26.51 # no no 01.27.09 # saratoga: not anymore 01.29.24 # which one is the "hold" button? menu? 01.29.39 # there is a diagram of each button in the manual 01.29.53 # wow u really are a hardass 01.30.22 # Bigavsha: what exactly are you asking? 01.31.10 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.31.13 # i am not a " 01.31.25 # hardass...i just like people following the rules ;) 01.32.25 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8366b21aa38aa7b2) 01.34.12 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.34.23 Quit Guile`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.34.30 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 01.37.26 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m60.net81-64-221.noos.fr) 01.38.34 # scorche: do you think about something special you like to have at the devcon but you don't have it, or something we should have (hardware stuff, computer...)? 01.39.15 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 01.39.40 # there are a few things, yes, but i am planning on just purchasing those 01.40.01 # although, do you happen to ahve a DVI to HCMI cable? 01.41.15 Quit krazykit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.41.24 # no , you just choose the only thing I don't have :) 01.41.30 # s/HCMI/HDMI 01.42.40 # yes, you want to connect a computer to a hdtv ? 01.42.48 # yup 01.43.30 # how about a whiteboard? =P 01.43.48 Join webguest39 [0] (i=94f373db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec784b4b2c12f9cd) 01.43.52 # hi 01.43.56 # Hello 01.44.10 # im trying to install rockbox into an ipod nano 2 generation 01.44.21 # you cant 01.44.35 # "Nano 2nd gen is not supported" -- www.rockbox.org 01.44.46 # scorche : you ask everything I don't have ;) 01.44.50 # what about linux 01.45.04 # you cant install that either, although that is the wrong thing to ask here 01.45.11 # untill when I can be able to install it? 01.45.16 # no clue 01.45.20 # probably never 01.45.28 # 2G Nano is locked down pretty tight 01.45.51 # well, thanks for all 01.45.54 Quit webguest39 (Client Quit) 01.45.58 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.46.23 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7A80.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.46.31 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-229-30-254.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 01.49.36 # scorche: this whiteboard will work for you as we have a big screen ? :) 01.49.53 # http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Communications/Conferencing/HiveBoard-4496.shtml 01.49.56 # either or...or both 01.51.39 # yeah...physical whiteboards are nice though...otherwise, i was just planning on using the screens 01.54.49 # For the cable, if you don't have time to buy it, there is a big electronic shop not far away from the hotel (Fry's electronic) 01.57.45 # * Soap prefers those huge paper easel tablets to whiteboards. 01.58.00 # there's a Fry's in vegas? 01.58.00 Quit matsl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.58.10 # yes 01.58.10 # I need somone to watch me if I drink, then. 01.58.26 # yeah...frys is great 01.58.36 # just out the higway when you arrive from LA 01.58.42 # toffe82: i used to live in vegas for a little bit, so i know where everything is though....thanks ;) 02.01.56 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.12.56 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@chitin.mycronite.net) 02.20.34 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.49 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 02.37.53 Quit TrueJournals (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.38.57 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 02.39.06 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.51 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 02.45.12 Quit ptw419 () 02.49.52 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 02.50.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.56.57 Part toffe82 03.00.15 Join tw2113 [0] (n=tw2113@siouxfallsDHCP-149.216-254-232.iw.net) 03.00.40 # anyone active? 03.02.25 # aye 03.02.41 # for a bit longer anyway 03.02.41 # would you have any idea why my ipod with rockbox wouldn't mount when plugged in? 03.02.43 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-135-34-165.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 03.03.02 # theres no USB support on the Ipod yet, so you need to reboot into Apple's firmware 03.03.15 # check back in a month or two once Christian gets somewhere with his USB drive 03.03.17 # r 03.03.27 # i have it running overall, it just doesn't always mount itself 03.03.28 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-05b51c71065235df) 03.03.33 # there is USB /detection/, but it takes a long time for Rockbox to reboot into Apple sometimes it seems. 03.03.35 # i have successfully copied files onto it 03.03.56 # it usually does when i restart my setup in linux 03.04.53 # not a huge deal really, i'd just have to make sure to do all the updating I want before unmounting 03.07.18 Quit tw2113 ("Leaving") 03.07.24 # peaking of which, someone get christian to setup a status page for his project so i can stop searching the chat logs 03.07.48 # his nick is?... 03.11.08 # austriancoder 03.11.47 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.14.32 # everything seems dead =/ 03.15.55 Join _BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 03.16.03 # yay, someone joined 03.16.16 # * chrisjs169 needs someone to talk to while waiting for all of this to download 03.17.06 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.17.08 # #defocus is a general chat channel. #rockbox is a support/developement channel 03.17.40 # oh yeah - ok 03.17.56 # #rockbox-community would be a great chat channel for people who use rockbox and want to chit-chat, but it's almost empty. 03.18.21 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.23.49 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.38.136) 03.23.59 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.24.38 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.34.24 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.34.27 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.142.169) 03.34.56 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.35.29 Join shiftplusone [0] (n=shiftplu@c211-28-48-3.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.35.46 Part shiftplusone ("Leaving") 03.36.01 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.36.11 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF52BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.37.50 Join aaa66 [0] (n=Aaa66@c-75-71-251-84.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 03.38.58 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.42.29 # can someone help me to understand rockbox, btw i have a xbox running XBMC, is this anything like that change also i have a sansa mp3 player. 03.42.41 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 03.44.06 Quit aaa66 () 03.44.45 # not really 03.44.55 # the manual can help with that, as well as the wiki 03.45.13 # what part are you having trouble with specifically? 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05.27.19 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.27.44 # 100 in one form of idlesness or another... 05.28.08 # i have a few questions 05.28.14 # if you have the time to answer 05.31.34 # hello 05.32.01 # hey 05.32.16 # whats up 05.32.22 # airhead you up for a few questions? 05.32.29 # real quick 05.32.31 # gotta go in 2 minutes 05.32.31 # hmm just contemplating things 05.32.34 # allright 05.32.52 # is rockbox compatible with itunes, as long as you use some sort of multiboot? 05.33.18 # believe so, check the documentation on the particular firmware 05.33.41 # but i would think so, or how else are you gona get music on the thing 05.33.44 # * JdGordon points xskater to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines 05.34.22 Quit airhead ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 05.34.46 # well it says that questions are allowed 05.35.18 # or were you pointing to something else? 05.35.41 # the part about just asking your question.. not asking to ask 05.36.42 # sorry about that, i probably should've given that a look prior to entering 05.38.32 # xskater: assuming you are referring to ipods, they also have disk mode, which I think is what rockbox uses 05.39.33 # yeah im talking about ipods 05.39.47 # also im not to familiar with diskmode 05.40.01 # see i was just fooling around with ipod wizard and then i came across this 05.40.05 # and i was pretty interested 05.50.13 Quit xskater ("CGI:IRC") 05.57.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.57.27 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF524E.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.07.21 Quit j1tters ("Leaving") 06.11.49 Join bagawk_ [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 06.12.58 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.13.52 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-135-34-165.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 06.15.02 Quit _BigMac (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.16.59 Quit Entasis_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.20.41 # jhMikeS: you round? 06.20.45 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 06.21.25 Quit pearldiver (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.22.35 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.27.03 Quit Bigavsha ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.27.43 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 06.29.08 Join bry [0] (i=user@cpe-72-190-103-55.tx.res.rr.com) 06.30.48 # hello? 06.31.49 # sshhh 06.31.56 # :[ 06.32.09 # I just installed rockbox and heard about this channel 06.33.23 # Why wont any of the wps themes work? 06.34.24 # what are they doing? 06.35.04 # well, keep in mind I *just* installed it and I may be retarded 06.35.16 # but i downloaded some rockbox themes 06.35.22 # and i go to "browse wps" 06.35.26 # and click on a wps 06.35.39 # but when I look at the screen while it plays a file its just basic text 06.35.47 # and looks nothing like the theme i downloaded 06.35.58 # * scorche hands bry a book on paragraphs ;) 06.36.21 # :o 06.36.26 # does the background change? 06.36.43 # yeah 06.36.50 # it did for one theme that I got 06.36.58 # but the text remains the same 06.37.04 # and the wps is very basic 06.37.07 # do the little moving bars stay? 06.37.39 # no, they move around 06.37.51 # ps im using an iriver h320 06.38.11 # well, it sounds like you are just using broken themes 06.38.33 # hrrm 06.38.41 # so im not doing anything wrong, though? 06.38.53 # if you click the wps file it usually just loads a theme, right? 06.38.56 Quit bagawk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.39.02 # yes 06.39.20 # make sure that you have installed the fonts pack and try some others 06.42.00 # well, i downloaded the latest release 06.42.07 # and it already had some themes 06.42.19 # but even those ones don't work 06.42.37 # * JdGordon slaps jhMikeS around with his damn spinlocks! 06.42.56 # anyone kow how long a recording I would have t do to make sure I didnt break it? 06.50.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.55.52 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.56.01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4F5C.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.57.22 Quit kremlin ("Leaving.") 07.17.24 Nick gtkspert_ is now known as gtkspert (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 07.23.08 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 07.27.42 Join SliMM [0] (i=5622eafa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2f8e7dc2f98add38) 07.29.13 Quit SliMM (Client Quit) 07.29.24 Join SliMM [0] (i=5622eafa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6a910e515e7d579b) 07.32.32 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 07.32.54 Part toffe82 07.34.26 Quit SliMM ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.35.50 Join thestarslookdown [0] (n=thestars@208.65.190.99) 07.36.42 Quit bry (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.39.53 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-135-34-165.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 07.46.23 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.46.46 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6ECF.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.57.29 Quit thestarslookdown (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.58.53 Join Doomed [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 08.09.45 Nick chrisjs169 is now known as chrisjs169|sleep (n=jack@unaffiliated/chrisjs169) 08.12.16 Quit Doomed ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 08.13.19 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15665.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.18.14 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.18.33 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5C77.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.20.39 Join ATravelingGeek [0] (n=atg@pdpc/supporter/student/ATravelingGeek) 08.20.51 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 08.22.46 Join loimon [0] (i=user@gateway/tor/x-e09709b4170e195a) 08.24.14 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.25.37 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 08.28.07 Join jurrie_ [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 08.28.23 Quit loimon (Remote closed the connection) 08.35.17 Quit BHSPitLappy ("Leaving") 08.37.05 Quit jurrie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.44.29 Join leftright [0] (i=d9e1fad5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8b448b4b3c53889b) 08.45.57 # JdGordon, you said you fixed the paged scrolling issue, but I dont see a commit for that in the build table, 08.46.43 # did the build table dump a few commits yesterday 08.46.47 # yeah 08.46.52 # the build table was screwed 08.46.59 # check the last 4 weeks log page 08.47.27 # np, just wanted to ensure that your fix was in, thanks for fixing it 08.48.40 Part leftright 08.50.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.51.32 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-9ecfc8dc6bc34457) 08.52.54 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 08.56.01 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 08.56.30 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 08.57.20 Join leftright [0] (i=d9e1fad5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-03b8c4a68e20b255) 08.58.33 # JdGordon: I just downloaded the latest current and it still has the #7274 bug 08.59.44 # :'( bugger 08.59.56 # I was scared of that, pauljam said the same thing last night 09.00.00 # it was working for m in the sim 09.00.30 # can you reopen the task? 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The gigabeat isn't readable at all. I don't know about the H300, X5 and Sansa. 13.24.43 # leftright: Yes, a high contrast theme can help 13.24.51 # the h300 display doesn't work well with direct sunlight, but i have heard that the ipod video display is good. 13.25.24 # high contrast theme helps, but it really depends on display technologie.. 13.26.19 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3D307.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.27.15 # hmm, thanks 13.28.50 Quit spiorf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.31.08 Part leftright 13.32.56 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 13.33.14 Quit jvhc ("CGI:IRC") 13.35.37 # Could someone with flyspray rights link FS#7261 to FS#7257, and maybe close 7261?? 13.47.23 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 13.53.06 Quit kretender (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.53.37 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 13.54.07 Join Grobbler [0] (i=5898bbe9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b2ef60572829cbd2) 13.55.00 # Excuse me, I've read the FAQ several times, and I still can't turn on the old Apple Firmware on my iPod 13.55.10 # Can anyone help me? 14.12.52 # switch on hold, directly after starting the ipod 14.14.33 # Domonoky_: what is it in rbutil that makes it require wxWidgets 2.8 ? 14.14.57 Join atsea-38 [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-cc0055e1686c14e2) 14.15.23 Part atsea-38 14.15.58 # Nico_P: i dont know for sure, i think there was something about MacOsX support.. 14.16.10 # ok 14.16.30 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 14.16.43 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5C77.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.17.33 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 14.17.34 # Nico_P: of course there are now function which arent aviable in 2.6, but that could be changed, but it doesnt help when its a problem with MacOsX.. i will investigate a litte bit... 14.18.37 # cool :) 14.18.50 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.19.02 # It'd probably be easier for a lot of people if rbutil only required 2.6 14.19.46 Quit Slasheri (Read error: 128 (Network is unreachable)) 14.19.56 # Oh jeez 14.20.01 # I'm in deep shit again. 14.20.18 # Ok, I had the latest build on the iPod, 14.20.43 # and then I downloaded some themes that said they needed the Senab Build 14.20.59 # so after installing those themes, I extracted the Senab Build onto the iPod 14.21.30 # and now when I try to play the plug-ins, it says: "incompatible version" 14.23.07 # what are the latest wx 2.6 versions aviable in Linux (debian ) ? newer than 2.6.3 ? 14.23.54 # please help? anyone? =\ 14.24.41 # Grobbler: how old is the senab build? 14.24.42 # Grobbler: you didnt install the complete Senab build, and no support for custom, unsupported builds here.. :-) 14.24.58 # So what do I do? 14.25.13 # I think the first build I installed wasn't Senab 14.25.39 # and I installed the latest, from the senab.co.uk site 14.25.51 # it could also be that senab build is to old.. i dont know.. 14.26.18 # oh, so what do I do? just install the newer build again? 14.26.20 # best to delete all rockbox files on your ipod, and reextract the senab build.. 14.26.34 # or use a official build :-) 14.29.11 # hmm, also, (I know I'm being an annoying asshole, but the FAQ isn't well orgainzed, I think.. I can't really find my way there) 14.29.32 # Is there a place to get more Plug-Ins for the iPod Rockbox? 14.30.20 # Domonoky_: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=wxgtk&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all 14.30.22 # all plugins are included, *asshole* .. hehe 14.30.47 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 14.35.19 # Also, there is a video on youtube of someone playing an AVI file on his iPod using iPodLinux... Is it really possible and how exactly is Linux different from Rockbox? 14.37.19 Join MySic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 14.37.27 # Grobbler: please read the webpage, for ipodlinux read their page.. (video hint: wiki: PluginMpegplayer) 14.37.41 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.37.44 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host132-219-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.37.45 # I did, but they don't have iPod linux for 5g 14.38.08 # and MPEG isn't the same as AVI 14.38.59 # AVI is only a container, not a format. 14.40.30 # and you have to resize the video to your screensize ( not enough cpu power) so you can also change the format at the same time.. 14.40.46 # but I still can't open avi files with my iPod.. I mean, they don't even appear on the file browser 14.41.23 # they are not supported, and to see them change the file view 14.41.57 # for g5 ipods i would suggest to use the video functionality of the apple firmware. 14.42.03 # you have to transform your video to the screen size and to mpeg.. see the wiki page.. 14.44.06 # I am reading the wiki page 14.45.24 # btw 14.46.29 # how do I change the file view? 14.47.28 # Grobbler: read the manual, its really good :-) 14.50.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.51.36 # doesn't say how to see files that aren't in the File Formats list 14.52.23 # Domonoky_: what OS do you run ? 14.52.44 # is anyone running ubuntu feisty here ? 14.54.37 # Nico_P: win XP and debian in a VM.. 14.55.05 # does your debian have wxGTK 2.8.4 ? 14.57.03 # on my debian there is 2.8.0 :-) 14.57.20 # you don't use it for rbutil ? 14.58.26 # i use it only for rbutil :-) 14.58.58 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 14.59.07 Nick chrisjs169|sleep is now known as chrisjs169 (n=jack@pool-71-114-145-182.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.59.07 # ok... are you sure it's 2.8.0 ? 2.8.2 didn't work for me... (wx-config --version) 14.59.50 # wx-config --version tells me 2.8.0 14.59.59 # and it works for rbutil... 15.00.07 # what error have you got ? 15.00.07 # ah 15.00.23 Part maffe 15.00.47 # well when I was using a 2.8.2 the output from wx-config --version=2.8 --cxxflags didn't seem to be right 15.01.19 # so I built a 2.8.3 from source and now that I've installed the official 2.8.4 it's fine again 15.01.22 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 15.01.29 # ah perhaps the version flag isnt right for the newer version ? its only if you have 2.6 and 2.8 installed 15.01.31 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 15.01.51 # or now that I think about it, the problem could be something else, related to where the exexcutable was 15.02.56 # if you have different wx-config bins on your system, then there could be problems.. 15.03.31 # yes, that was probably the problem 15.04.38 # the problem is that now when I build the deb package, the requirement is libwxgtk2.8 in version at least 2.8.4 15.06.33 Part ashridah ("Ex-Chat") 15.06.41 # 2.8.4 is required for the deb package ?? why ? 15.07.23 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 15.11.40 # ah, now i understand, because the package is build with 2.8.4, it requires 2.8.4 ? 15.12.10 # if so, then i should build a package with 2.8.0, so the requirements are lower :-) 15.13.05 Quit PaulJam (".") 15.17.04 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 15.18.35 # is it bad if spinlock_init(&lock) is called more than once? 15.20.10 # Domonoky_: yes, I built it with 2.8.4 so it needs that 15.20.18 # I'll try getting 2.8.0 15.24.13 # Nico_P: would be nice if you try that, i dont have the time to do it, i have to leave in ~ 1 hour for a few days.. 15.24.31 # Nico_P: That podcast you PM:ed about is actually too long, that's why it crashes. 15.25.12 # Lear: just because it's too long ? generally long files just get skipped 15.25.26 # this one crashes the player 15.26.07 # Yes, but this is a borderline case. If it is way too long it causes a clean exit early on (from libm4a). Here it is libfaad that can't handle a NULL return from malloc. 15.28.10 # but it's it's only 59 minutes... I have longer podcasts that play fine... is it because it's too large ? 15.28.15 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-d912706d8c9cefd9) 15.29.13 Quit Grobbler ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.30.21 # Yes, that's because it isn't strictly a question of length; how the file is structured matters too. 15.30.40 # OK. and are there reasonable solutions to this ? 15.30.50 # This one is separated into many different chunks, whereas most files I've seen before only have a few. 15.31.34 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.31.48 # Domonoky_: I've managed to gt a hold of v2.8.1... I'll build a package with it 15.32.22 # There might be. Depends on what the decoder actually needs in terms of frame sizes. I.e., do libfaad need to know the size of a single frame (sample in QT terminology). 15.33.18 # If not, libm4a could be rewritten to not simply load a bunch of tables into ram, but rather recalculate them into something smaller. 15.33.51 # Lear: that sounds complex... is it ? 15.33.54 # It would mean reduced seek precision, but there could still be tens of thousands of seek points, so it wouldn't matter that much, I think. 15.34.29 Part TrueJournals 15.35.47 # It is, a little, yes. You could check get_sample_offset (and the seek functions) in m4a.c (libm4a) to get an idea. 15.36.01 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-243-36.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net) 15.37.10 # sadly I'm pretty sure I'm not up to the task 15.38.59 # It's not really that complicated. You just need to read up a bit on the QuickTime/MP4 file format, specifically the atoms stsc, stsz, stco and stts. 15.39.41 # They just describe various sizes and offsets of data in the file, but you need all of them to find out what you want. 15.40.40 # Main reason I haven't done it is lack of interest. Don't really use mp4... 15.40.51 # pity :) 15.40.51 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 15.42.48 # I know doing *wbuf++ = DATA_REG; 16 times is faster than a loop, but wouldnt doing wbuf[0...15] = DATA_REG; be faster still? 15.43.58 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 15.44.35 Join otih [0] (n=otih@p54A4F773.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.47.24 Part Llorean 15.49.05 # Depends on what kind of code the compiler generates, I guess. 15.49.25 # It's basically a memset of some sort. 15.49.54 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.50.09 # yeah, but i'm thinking, if the wbuf variable doesnt need to be updated, hats 2 less mem access for each one 15.51.14 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.53.41 # wbuf would likely be in a register in any case, so I doubt it would matter. 15.57.49 Part TrueJournals 15.58.33 Join lyakh [0] (n=lyakh@dynamic-unidsl-85-197-31-110.westend.de) 15.59.05 # Domonoky_: I've updated the rbutil wiki page with a feisty package requiring v2.8.1 15.59.16 # * JdGordon got the sd card working again :D 16.00.42 # any info about this one: http://www.outlet23.eu/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=11&XTCsid=15bdd02c4efce1e0e910b1b46ec295a0 16.01.12 # Nico_P: nice.. 16.02.14 Quit gtkspert_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.03.40 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-d5f1314c91da3a8c) 16.10.03 # as a matter of fact, there appear lots of "cheap" multimedia portable players with multi-GB internal storage, some with card support, (seamingly) capable of playing mpeg4... 16.10.10 # are there attempts to port rockbox to them or development goes mainly / exclusively to improve support for existing ports? 16.10.16 Quit ompaul (Remote closed the connection) 16.11.21 # lyakh: ports are done by people owning the hardware, and enough interrest and skills to do the port.. 16.12.06 # anyone sponsored to do new ports? 16.12.29 # you need to find someone willin to start a new port if you want to sponsor them 16.13.04 # rockbox doesnt have paid developers, but it would be nice :-) 16.13.40 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 16.13.55 # oh, did I say I wanted to sponsor anyone?... 16.14.03 # :-) 16.14.11 # yeah, pity 16.14.20 # Any Win32 wizard who can explain why FormatMessageA in io.c (uisimulator code) fails? :) 16.14.50 # win32 or sdl? 16.15.03 # It complains about an incorrect parameter. 16.15.32 # passing a NULL string or somthing? 16.15.38 # SDL sim, but I think the code in question is very old... 16.16.01 # Can't see anything wrong, unless the mingw headers are incorrect or something. :) 16.20.27 # so, manufacturers arew not interested?... 16.20.56 # have there been any requests from them, resp., are there players with rockbox preinstalled? 16.24.42 # * chrisjs169 waits for another SVN commit 16.25.00 # sansa was th eonly manufacturer with any real nicety towards us... rockbox was given a few e200's but no docs so nothing really usefull 16.25.14 # * JdGordon wonders why chrisjs169 wants a commit 16.25.41 # I'm trying to test something, and want to make sure it's working 16.26.07 # Ah, it requires a value for va_list... 16.29.25 # I guess, if there were any, they'd be in huge red letters on rb web:-) 16.30.33 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 16.30.46 # * JdGordon listening to music on the micro SD card again :D 16.30.50 # * JdGordon kicks ass 16.36.42 # Slasheri: you round? 16.37.10 # preglow: are you there? 16.38.07 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.39.59 Quit darkless ("Leaving") 16.40.55 Quit jhulst (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.42.37 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.43.26 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A94DF0.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.46.30 Quit desowin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.50.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.51.49 Join Doomed [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 16.56.03 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 16.58.38 # chrisjs169: you've set your mail filter up ? 16.59.15 # Nico_P: yup :D 16.59.24 Quit Doomed ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 16.59.37 # nice :) 17.00.06 # it's actually done via .procmailrc so I don't have to keep a mail client open 17.05.38 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 17.08.34 # I think theres a bug with 7134 (MicroSD) 17.14.36 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 17.20.58 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc5-brig8-0-0-cust142.brig.cable.ntl.com) 17.21.05 Part Robin0800 17.23.42 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 17.24.39 # so yeah - with 7134, rockbox freezes on startup 17.28.28 Nick Soap is now known as NotSoap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.32.31 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.35.23 # Soap: you wouldn't have any idea why the MicroSD patch is causing rockbox to freeze up would you? 17.35.39 # FS # ? 17.37.26 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p5484A985.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.37.57 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14964.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.56 Quit Arathis (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.43.56 # 7134 17.45.41 Quit printfXh4 ("Leaving") 17.46.16 Join Doomed [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 17.46.32 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p5484A985.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.52.38 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.56.22 # anyone around who is expert in dsp.c? 17.56.45 Join Overand [0] (i=overand@pdpc/supporter/active/Overand) 17.58.23 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.231.172) 17.58.44 # Well, I did a major overhaul of it, though it was a while ago. 18.00.07 # lear: i am not sure if the 16bit-output is done correct. it seems we have a dc-offset of about +0.5 of 32768 18.01.10 # Oh? Doesn't sound much, but... :) 18.01.16 # * -0.5 of 32768 * 18.02.01 # yes, but it's a pain when trying to check accuracy of codec output vs. reference deocder 18.02.22 # Ah. :) But this is on an arm target? 18.02.33 # yes 18.04.38 # So clip_sample_16 that could introduce that offset, I guess. 18.05.43 # i guess sample_output_stereo should do (x + 1<<(scale--1) )>>scale instead of x>>scale for each sample 18.06.20 # if I add this amount to the decoders output the dc-offset has gone 18.06.27 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.09.21 Quit MySic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.10.30 # same happens with dithered output 18.11.12 # Since it is a constant that is added, it shouldn't affect speed much. 18.11.33 # does anybody know of a patch that ignores the A in an artist when sorting with database? im trying to merge to patches together because i dont know how to code 18.12.35 # lear: but this constant depends on the codecs, so it is calculated from a variable... 18.13.19 # Yes, but it doesn't need to be done within the loop. 18.13.27 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.13.35 # ok, you're right ;) 18.14.18 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965FAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.15.16 # Buschel: How are you testing accuracy? test_codec doesn't use the DSP code. 18.16.25 # ah! I didn't know, yet... gotta check the code there 18.17.22 # linux: it does the same... 18.17.55 # Yes, but you also mentioned dithering... 18.18.14 # yep, when enabling dithering the same amount of dc-bias is added. 18.19.40 # OK, I just wanted to make sure you weren't being misled. 18.20.43 Quit ptw419 () 18.23.07 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 18.29.41 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 18.32.42 Join sando [0] (n=lolsteam@58.179.183.93) 18.33.55 Join Rick| [0] (n=rhelmus@86.92.197.142) 18.34.00 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 18.34.13 Part Rick| 18.41.00 # ok, when adding dc_bias ( =1<<(scale-1) ) before scaling it works fine. tested with test_codec. i will submit a patch for this 18.42.50 Join airhead [0] (n=chatzill@68-112-180-65.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) 18.43.32 # . 18.45.10 # hey all 18.45.18 # did anyone see the archos 5th gen pictures? 18.46.08 Quit airhead (Client Quit) 18.49.27 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.196) 18.51.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.53.42 # linuxstb/lear: patch for DC-bias is added (FS #7286) 18.56.51 Quit Soap ("Leaving") 18.57.53 Join JETC- [0] (n=jetc@pool-71-125-70-243.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 19.01.01 Quit JETC- (Remote closed the connection) 19.11.41 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@17.27.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 19.13.34 Quit obo ("bye") 19.16.18 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 19.19.11 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 19.19.24 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 19.22.21 Join kohlman-- [0] (i=4493a25c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aa9b72df77c9593f) 19.22.26 # hey 19.22.47 # umm where do i put GB roms on my iriver? 19.23.08 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.23.28 # ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 19.23.56 # is any1 here?? 19.23.58 # anywhere 19.24.09 # you just click on them 19.24.17 # ok 19.24.22 # this plugin works as viewver 19.24.28 # so right into rockbox? 19.24.47 # anywhere you want 19.25.02 # ok so i can make like a roms folder? 19.25.15 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 19.25.18 # and can it play GBA roms? 19.25.54 # yes, roms folder sounds good, no it can't play GBA 19.26.06 # just GB 19.26.09 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.26.10 # ok... 19.26.16 Quit kohlman-- (Client Quit) 19.27.10 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.34.28 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 19.37.08 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.39.30 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-1d13f3d5132b9ac0) 19.47.25 Quit secleinteer (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.49.39 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.196) 19.52.11 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.52.58 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965FAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.56.36 Part Llorean 19.56.36 # I think that multirow.sty file should be commited to svn along with the other *.sty files on the /manual directory 19.57.45 # I am compiling the manual and it will nag about that specific file, I've searched the interent to install it manual but even when I put it manuall on the tex folders it will still nag about it (unless put on the /manual folder of the repository) 19.58.54 Join ice8lue [0] (n=ice8lue@L75ec.l.strato-dslnet.de) 19.59.19 Quit ice8lue (Client Quit) 19.59.48 Join Ice8lue [0] (n=i@L75ec.l.strato-dslnet.de) 20.00.08 # hey there, congrats for getting recording working on the sansa =) 20.02.54 Join ice8lue_ [0] (n=ice8lue@L75ec.l.strato-dslnet.de) 20.03.41 Quit ice8lue_ (Client Quit) 20.06.56 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 20.07.24 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 20.08.16 Part Ice8lue 20.08.33 Join Ice8lue [0] (n=i@L75ec.l.strato-dslnet.de) 20.09.44 Quit Ice8lue ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.10.02 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 20.15.29 Quit davina_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.16.01 Join davina_ [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 20.17.08 Join proog [0] (n=proog@unaffiliated/proog) 20.19.36 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@h218n1fls35o293.telia.com) 20.20.36 # i have rockbox installed on my ipod, but since i updated the apple firmware, i cant get into rockbox anymore. how do i install the boot loader so i can get to rockbox again? 20.20.53 # rbutil 20.21.31 # rbutil? 20.21.58 # please read the manual: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 20.22.49 # proog: just do it like when you installed rockbox, ie with oipodpatcher (rbutil works too but is not what's described in the manual) 20.22.59 # -o 20.23.13 # * petur just discovered the manual doesn't mention rbutil 20.23.35 Join Siltaar [0] (n=Siltaar@reverse-52.fdn.fr) 20.23.52 # ok 20.24.58 # petur: iiuc the long-term plan is to make rbutil the official supported method of installation, which means that it should get into the manual and replace the ipodpatcher/sansapatcher/fwpatcher stuff 20.25.50 # I even fail to find anything on rbutil in the wiki using just links (not searching) 20.27.25 # is it ready for "primetime" - or should we still be directing people to the methods currently in the manual? I am not clear on this point. 20.30.30 Quit proog (Remote closed the connection) 20.31.11 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 20.34.10 Join bagawk_ [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 20.35.54 Quit obo ("bye") 20.36.31 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 20.43.59 Join bagawk__ [0] (n=lee@71-220-236-81.eugn.qwest.net) 20.44.59 Quit bagawk (Nick collision from services.) 20.45.02 Nick bagawk__ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@71-220-236-81.eugn.qwest.net) 20.46.12 Part spiorf ("Io escio") 20.51.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.57.55 Quit bagawk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.38 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD61C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.05.43 # i don't tihnk anyone said anything about the issue with FS7134 - any idea why it freezes on the newer sansas? 21.10.43 Join reppel [0] (n=reppel@host-84-220-126-53.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 21.11.08 # Hi, are there news for Ipod 2nd gen support? 21.13.29 # Which 2nd gen? 21.14.06 # ops sorry 21.14.13 # 2nd gen nano 21.14.13 # nano probably, answer = no 21.14.47 # thanks guys 21.15.01 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 21.18.52 Join SliMM [0] (n=chatzill@89.136.181.105) 21.19.12 # Llorean: thanks for the badge :P 21.20.45 # since it's pretty much work to do at a cubis-like game, what do you think of a game like this: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/315702 21.20.47 # ? 21.20.59 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@203.49.198.86) 21.22.33 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3003.gwdg.de) 21.30.33 # any idea why using FS7134 causes the newer sansas to freeze at the rockbox logo during boot? 21.31.45 Quit daurn (Connection timed out) 21.38.29 Quit The-Compiler (Remote closed the connection) 21.39.33 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc5-brig8-0-0-cust142.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.40.11 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B160E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.44.28 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 21.44.35 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc5-brig8-0-0-cust142.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.46.21 Part Llorean 21.47.29 Part rift_ 21.51.53 Quit reppel ("leaving") 21.53.14 Join webguest67 [0] (i=d9844f08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4d6c6c75cb3abfb4) 21.53.49 Quit webguest67 (Client Quit) 21.53.54 Join webguest64 [0] (i=d9844f08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-25463e6271ae60a5) 21.56.37 # f 21.56.55 # fascinating 21.56.55 Quit webguest64 (Client Quit) 21.57.08 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.57.39 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.57.48 Join theone [0] (i=43b875e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e5f67b0ace2cb375) 21.57.57 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 21.59.20 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 22.00.15 # is this a known bug: [pause] on current track, hit [next track], next track starts playing but the playback icon is still in 'pause'? 22.01.03 Join Rincewind [0] (i=SPkNoPem@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 22.01.07 # resolution should be to not start playback 22.01.36 # build = 070603, so sorry if it's been known and been fixed 22.01.40 Quit theone (Client Quit) 22.05.23 Join paul_stead [0] (n=stead@82.69.201.206) 22.08.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B155E7.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.13.03 Part maffe 22.13.25 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f96756fef84c65c6) 22.13.33 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 22.14.31 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=vircuser@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 22.22.11 Quit ompaul ("gone") 22.25.10 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 22.25.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.26.18 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 22.26.31 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 22.27.53 # ipod patcher can't see my ipod now 22.29.19 # I think it is the recent changes to detection that has broken this 22.30.22 # What does your partition table look like? 22.33.47 Join indigio3 [0] (n=indigio3@cpc3-clif5-0-0-cust439.nott.cable.ntl.com) 22.33.53 # Hello 22.33.59 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.34.37 Join florentinschirme [0] (n=florenti@p54B3FD42.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.35.07 # Monkeys Audio is lagging on my h120 22.35.15 # is this an known problem? 22.35.32 # Yes, it's stated everywhere. Only -c1000 is realtime on the h120 at the moment. 22.35.59 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.36.03 # can anyone give me a hand choosing a hard drive for a M5L? I have read forums/messageboards etc before i'm flamed 22.37.04 # was wanting a 60gb single platter but not sure on the connector 22.39.39 # Are the Chances good to get a lagging free MA? 22.40.07 # florentinschirme: Not really. It's a very complex codec. Do you know what compression mode your files are? 22.41.49 Quit joa ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.41.54 # indigio3: All I know is that the X5 has a MK2006GAL - I would guess all the X5/M5 variants use the same connector as that. 22.42.02 Join joa [0] (n=joe@host86-152-97-89.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) 22.42.47 # so it's not a ZIF but a normal IDE connector 22.43.26 # doesn' the M5L use a sinle platter drive? 22.43.32 # *single 22.43.58 Quit GodEater_ ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 22.44.00 # M5L is single platter 22.44.25 # do 60GB single platter drives even exist? 22.44.34 # I don't think so 22.44.42 # yes they do 22.44.46 # seagate made one, as did samsung 22.44.46 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.44.52 # can you buy them? 22.44.54 # however, i'm having a hard time finding a distributor 22.45.03 # and they probably are ZIF... 22.45.06 # thats the problem.. im not even sure if they are the right interface 22.45.07 # exactly 22.45.27 # is it hard replacing the drive in the M5L? 22.45.34 # what would need to be done to find the key for the e200R firmware? 22.45.51 # indigio3: try iaudiophile.net 22.45.58 # chrisjs169: we know the key already 22.46.14 # petur: tried it 22.46.25 # so what's preventing rockbox from going onto the e200R series? 22.46.41 # chrisjs169: I've explained that numerous times 22.46.49 # is it possible to use a harddrive from a different manufacturer? i thought you could only use toshiba drives. 22.46.51 # in the forums 22.47.16 # chrisjs169: basically: figure out how to replace the bootloader 22.47.45 # Bagder: oh, ok - sorry about that 22.48.28 # Bagder: are there any ideas for replacing it? 22.48.55 # I would say it takes some research 22.49.17 # ok 22.49.32 # the R models don't have the second partition like the vanilla ones 22.49.46 # yeah 22.49.52 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-227-127.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 22.49.56 # what are the screws like on the case of the M5L? (I dont own one yet, see....) 22.50.53 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc5-brig8-0-0-cust142.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.51.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.51.35 # torx? 22.52.53 # Bagder: can the bootloader actually not be replaced (without e200tool) or has the filename simply not been figured out yet? 22.53.29 # the R bootloader cannot "upgrade" bootloader 22.53.37 # ok 22.53.42 # but funnily we know the filename 22.54.05 # the bootloader also verifies the digital signature "properly" 22.54.10 # so it refuses to run our code 22.54.11 # indigio3: afaik, only pixelma has one 22.54.34 # ok 22.57.50 Quit Buschel () 22.57.57 Quit florentinschirme (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.58.13 # Bagder: does the R series allow the same array of recovery modes as the normal firmware? 22.59.08 # I think so, but since we don't know enough about it we can't for example recover the bootloader using e200tool etc 22.59.39 # someone bricked his R by screwing it badly with e200tool 22.59.53 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 23.02.17 # Anyone know why FS7134 causes the latest sansas to freeze during bootup? 23.05.01 Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-1e09e9a69380bf97) 23.05.59 # chrisjs169: no idea, but whats different about the new sansa's scrollwheel? 23.08.37 # Anyone around that wants to test a patch? :-) 23.08.44 # saratoga: the 'ridges' are a lot closer together 23.08.51 # n1s: what kind of patch? 23.09.02 Quit DrMoos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.18 # the FS#7264 one, what player do you have? 23.09.33 # n1s: e200 23.10.11 # not a coldfire target though 23.10.23 # chrisjs169: well, iy shouldn't affect that, but a verification that playback and voice still works would be nice :_9 23.10.33 # s/iy/it 23.10.52 # ok, so you want me to test it out anyway? 23.11.08 # chrisjs169: yes please :-) 23.11.18 # n1s: ok 23.11.22 # thanks 23.13.52 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 23.13.55 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9be0fc087db5735d) 23.14.19 # Robin0800: What does the partition table look like on your ipod which ipodpatcher isn't recognising? 23.14.25 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 23.14.25 # does anyone know how quickly errors propigate through an FFT? 23.14.53 # VERY!!! you're going to die!!! arggh.. ;-) 23.15.00 # sorry... 23.15.17 # n1s: it's just about done compiling - should have results in a min 23.16.32 # chrisjs169: very nice 23.16.38 Quit PaulJam (".") 23.18.42 # also, i just noticed that both eq.c and fixedpoint.c both declare the same fsincos() function to compute trig functions with CORDIC 23.18.56 # is there some reason we don't just use one for both? 23.19.19 # n1s: ok, testing it 23.19.54 # playback works 23.20.19 # chrisjs169: ah, good, could you test voice too? 23.20.46 # voice/recording works 23.20.50 # also did you use the newest patch (the one on the bottom) 23.21.03 # yes 23.21.18 # chrisjs169: thank you very much :-) 23.22.06 # n1s: no problem :) 23.24.43 Join andreasg [0] (n=andreasg@provider.hive.is) 23.24.59 # does it need to be said that my (work laptop) Core Duo compiles about 10,000 times faster than my K6-III 450? 23.25.07 # dang this is nice 23.25.11 Quit rp- () 23.26.57 # linuxstb, will get back to you when i find a tool to show it ipod patcher used too but of course not lately 23.29.18 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 23.29.38 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 23.29.44 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.30.09 Quit SliMM ("Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.12/2007050813]") 23.36.14 Quit davina_ ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 23.38.59 Quit indigio3 () 23.39.39 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 23.39.45 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.39.48 # Robin0800: The most likely cause is that your main partition isn't labeled as FAT32 (type 0xb). If you reformatted it, how did you do it, and does it still boot the Apple firmware OK? 23.44.06 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.44.10 # Hi, I just installed the current build of rockbox on my iPod Video Black 5th Gen., it booted up fine and I could build the music database, play music and change themes, but then as I went back to the musicplayer after browsing around it just hangs and holding down play doesn't shutdown rockbox. For now I'm just waiting for the battery to empty to boot it again. How can I debug crashes? 23.47.08 Join Vic [0] (n=vmark@fctnnbsc16w-156034239056.nb.aliant.net) 23.47.17 # Hello everyone. 23.47.56 # I just put rockbox on my sansa and love it. I'd like to start contributing by starting out small with Wiki Access 23.48.10 # I have an fm presets file for my area 23.48.30 # My name is Mark Veinot 23.49.03 # Vic: done. :) 23.49.28 # linuxstb,no not apple only rockbox which of couse works fine 23.49.48 # midkay: thanks! I look forward to being part of this community :) 23.49.52 # wow this fixed point fft really is garbage 23.50.06 # andreasg: hold down MENU+SELECT to reset it, I dunno about on-target crash debugging on ipods 23.50.12 # Vic: great, all help is useful and appreciated :) 23.50.26 # given identical inputs as the fp version, its output diverges by at least 20 bits 23.50.44 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 23.51.32 # n1s: The battery just went out so I'm good for now :) 23.51.48 # n1s: I did hold down MENU+SELECT and that didn't work 23.52.36 # andreasg: it should, but I've heard of people having to hold those buttons down for as long as 30 sec to make it reset 23.52.54 # andreasg, it will eventualy honest 23.53.07 # ok, but does the threading system deadlock? 23.55.06 # andreasg: that function is a hardware reset and should work regardless of what caused the crash 23.55.32 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-91-140.austin.res.rr.com) 23.55.40 # n1s: ok 23.55.42 Quit Siltaar (Remote closed the connection) 23.55.52 Part toffe82 23.55.54 # linuxstb,any one got an old ipod patcher befor the magic was taken out 23.57.55 # There shouldn't really be a use for the old one.