--- Log for 22.06.107 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 6 hours ago 00.00.47 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.01.08 # I have a ipod nano clone will rockbox work on it? 00.01.26 # most likely not 00.01.54 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust949.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.02.18 # ok thanks looked nice wished it would 00.02.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus 00.03.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort ! ;-) 00.03.17 # haha 00.03.22 Join Alonea_ [0] (n=chatzill@24-119-114-203.cpe.cableone.net) 00.04.26 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 00.04.32 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.04.36 Quit sjust1216 ("Have a nice day") 00.05.50 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.07.08 Quit Alonea (Connection timed out) 00.07.21 Nick Alonea_ is now known as Alonea (n=chatzill@24-119-114-203.cpe.cableone.net) 00.07.29 # Bagder: you scared him away by suggesting him to do actual work! 00.07.34 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.07.57 Quit Siltaar (Remote closed the connection) 00.08.43 # it's worse than actual work 00.08.59 # most of these clones are just a hyper simplistic mcu wired to a dedicated decoder chip 00.09.08 # wow. been ages since I have been on IRC. Hello folks. Anything new these days? 00.09.13 # try to get rockbox to work on a 8bit 10Mhz mcu 00.10.09 # it is a challenge indeed ;-) 00.10.42 # well it'd be partly possible but it'd be the port job of the century 00.10.52 # it's easier to write a rockbox clone from scratch 00.10.58 # Alonea: some pregress with the Gigabeat S is being made 00.11.04 # progress even 00.11.09 # run "I can't beleive it's not rockbox" in your "I can't beleive it's not an ipod" 00.11.28 # Anyone got a tip/suggestion for my hal headache? 00.12.19 # * Bagder walks off to try staying horizontal until morning 00.12.44 # markun: lol. thats good. I saw the thing for the puzzle mode for jewels. it was interesting. I like how the screen resets if you save, and then come back, but yet score is same. Is the screen supposed to reset? 00.15.05 # I don't know 00.15.12 # never tried the puzzle mode 00.17.18 # Lars_G: I tried that dcop command, the ipod shows up for me 00.17.53 # bluebrother: great for you! 00.17.57 # * Lars_G weeps 00.18.09 # And dmesg shows the ipod being recognized 00.18.40 Join webguest98 [0] (i=3ed1cb02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d1ab898ebd0130b5) 00.18.42 # strange. Maybe it's working because I'm still on dbus 0.62? 00.19.03 # markun: its interesting. was very confused at first, but I figured out what I was supposed to do. 00.19.05 # * bluebrother should upgrade his machine in the not-so-far future ... 00.19.20 Quit webguest98 (Client Quit) 00.19.21 # Alonea: how does the puzzle mode work? 00.19.24 # markun: whats really funny is how long it took me to figure out what button I was supposed to press for chopper 00.19.36 # Alonea: same here! 00.20.31 # bluebrother: there are these special blocks that are either horizontal or vertical. At first there is either 2 or 3. You have to get rid of your jewels as normal until the special blocks line up to go to the next level 00.20.47 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 00.21.09 # ah. I should try that later ... 00.21.29 # bluebrother: because you worked on the makefile... the error message at the end of building a pdf manual occured with the introduction of the rockboxinfo.txt - any ideas? 00.21.50 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.22.40 # pixelma: I found the problem: if you simply "make" you get that message, because the default target "all" triggers the target "info". 00.23.00 # bluebrother: but yeah, if you do what I did, and the special blocks end up at the very bottom, just save and come back and it will reset the level without loosing your score 00.23.05 # if you run "make manual-pdf" instead you don't get that error (as the target "info" won't get triggered) 00.23.05 # ah 00.23.32 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.23.39 # and the manual makefile tricks the build system a bit to not build the tools folder 00.23.58 # which makes the default target look in the wrong folder. 00.26.07 # then go and fix the #define(s) 00.26.19 # ^ ign 00.27.47 # I was wondering about that configuration stuff a bit anyway. You can run "make manual" from a (N)ormal configuration ... 00.28.19 # but I haven't digged too much into that yet. 00.28.46 # yup, I knew that and I think that could be handy (though I don't use it myself) 00.29.54 Quit midgey () 00.30.53 # is make tools broken? 00.32.17 # no -- is it supposed to? 00.32.55 # pixelma: btw, I'm planning to rename the output file from rockbox-build.pdf to rockbox-.pdf or manual-.pdf 00.33.09 # do you think it would be better to use rockbox-* or manual-*? 00.34.24 # bluebrother,tried to build tools to get the new ipod patcher didn't seem to build one i could use 00.34.40 Join Konfuzius_Peng [0] (n=aufanfra@gprs-pool-1-008.eplus-online.de) 00.35.06 Join Akuma64 [0] (n=Akuma@82-46-88-21.cable.ubr10.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.35.25 # Robin0800: ipodpatcher is now in rbutil/ipodpatcher 00.35.33 # hello 00.35.49 # just cd to that folder and type "make" 00.36.32 # bluebrother: hmm... my first thought was "manual-.pdf" could be mistaken for a manual of the OF or a hardware - but didn't think it through 00.37.15 # well, I'm somewhat unsure. One could argue that rockbox-*.pdf is clear because of the file type. OTOH, manual-* is somewhat clearer. 00.37.17 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.37.55 # currently, the manual download page uses rockbox-*, so renaming to rockbox-* would go in line with that page. 00.38.27 # Sorry for my bad english. Maybe someone can help me? I have an Ipod Video 80 GB with Rockbox on it. Some Themes dont look correctly, especially in the playing screen. Anyone an idea? 00.38.41 # Konfuzius_Peng: installed the fonts package? 00.39.17 # bluebrother: only the bootloader and rockbox 00.39.23 # and a few themes 00.39.31 # well, you need to install the fonts package separately. 00.39.34 # bluebrother: "rockbox-manual" is probably too long then? 00.39.44 # that could it be, thank you 00.39.59 # i will try it now 00.40.08 # shuld be on the rockbox website? 00.40.09 # pixelma: it's a bit lengish, but it shouldn't be a problem. 00.40.20 # Konfuzius_Peng: follow the "Extras" link on the website 00.40.36 # and btw, I can really recommend the manual. It tells this, too ;-) 00.40.38 # manualbox.. ;) 00.41.00 # bag of manual 00.41.05 # pixelma: sounds like "you need to use this box manually" ;-) 00.41.25 # bom? I know bom as short cut, but not for bag of manual 00.41.37 # or even "rtfm"? *g* 00.41.47 # "Rockbox -- the fine manual" 00.42.05 # rtfrbm 00.42.15 # hehe 00.43.12 # * DerPapst votes for "rtfm-.pdf" 00.44.14 # I think most of our users do read the manual, so calling rtfm may be a bit hard ;) 00.44.38 # petur: the "r" stands for "Rockbox" of course ;-) 00.45.02 # and f for fine... yea yea, sure 00.45.10 # :) 00.45.21 # (a manual for surfing on the rockbox website would be nice, too *gg*) 00.46.54 Quit obo ("bye") 00.47.00 # * DerPapst agrees 00.47.23 # Konfuzius_Peng: well, then you need to browse the website to find that manual in the first place 00.47.27 # Konfuzius_Peng: if explain what trouble you have with it could help making it better 00.47.29 # i really like rockbox but i have hd problems finding the software at first time 00.47.30 # certainly the wiki could use some reorganising 00.47.31 Quit Akuma64 () 00.47.34 # had 00.47.56 # well, the only thing that's a bit troublesome is the wiki IMO 00.48.15 # the "download" link could be a bit confusing, though. 00.48.27 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.48.34 # Ok the problem seems to eb in HAL 00.50.05 # (i really love rockbox now. First tried on my iRIver ihp-120, but dont need it really. now 3 days ago, ive buyed an ipod. and i was really near suicide. the origiginal ipod software is horrible. have thousands of files and audiobooks and dont want spend 3 years of time for making id3 tags and send it through itunes. and at the end it would be not at the right place, too ;-) ) 00.50.23 # (you have saved my live with rockbox ;-) ) 00.50.39 # * DerPapst thinks the rb site should use more bold and red (maybe blinking?) text.. and CAPITALS too :P 00.50.45 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.51.00 # * bluebrother deleted the OF on his h120 because it is so horrible 00.51.33 # i loved the original iriver firmware 00.51.51 # I hated it that moment I started to use ogg files. 00.51.52 # dont wanted rockbox on my iriver 00.52.03 # but on ipod, its completely different. 00.52.13 # ogg support of the iriver fw is really crappy. 00.52.25 # i would say, ipod is not useable without Rockbox. 00.52.28 # you're aware that Rockbox runs _much_ better on the h120 compared to the Ipod? 00.52.38 # especially the 80 GB version i have 00.52.41 # Konfuzius_Peng: I assume you're not using your h120 for recording? 00.53.00 # i want to have files and folders instead of crappy playlists 00.53.29 # Konfuzius_Peng: i like the OF of the iPod pretty much. but i have my mp3s well tagged ;) 00.53.50 # the navigation of AppleOS is ... strange ;-) 00.54.09 # petur: no, only a few times. 2 problems. 1st one: recording time is not enough. 2nd: you can hear the harddisk on recordings 00.54.13 # * DerPapst thinks the same about rockbox sometimes too 00.54.48 # that's why i'm making some patches for some plugins :P 00.55.16 Part n1s 00.57.47 # and now i cant use my iriver anymore, because i have cracked the lcd ;-(((( 00.57.55 # the hardware is stil ok... horrible 00.58.07 # Konfuzius_Peng: use the voice menus of RB ;-) 00.59.05 # heh true 00.59.24 # or get someone replace the broken display. 00.59.54 # the h100 is really great in terms of hardware. 01.00.06 # i try dto replace it. 01.00.10 # buy one with a broken hdd from ebay 01.01.35 # btw, had anyone success connecting a JTAG to an Ipod? 01.01.39 # i have planed to get old with the iriver ( diplay have a very bad resolution but the rest is absolutely 1st class)... but now i have had to buy a new one ...:-( iriver dont answer question regarding a new LCD 01.01.54 # I was thinking about that for a while, I just don't have the money to get the needed stuff yet 01.02.04 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 01.02.22 # bluebrother,made ipodpatcher ok but can't make rbutil like that loads of errors 01.02.41 # Robin0800: you need wx 2.8 installed 01.04.54 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.04.54 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.05.00 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 01.05.07 # (wonderful. now my ipod plays the mp3 and i cant stop it or do anything lol) 01.05.37 # on the Ipod you stop playback by holding the Play / Pause button 01.05.41 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.196.123) 01.05.57 # and that's covered in the fine manual ;) 01.06.22 # and you can always reset the Ipod by holding Menu + Select (as that is a hardware function) 01.06.31 # * Llorean still isn't quite able to make a manual 01.06.40 # have load the COBALT theme (which dont look correctly, even with fonts), and now the display has freezed and it plays the song and i cant stop it or do anything 01.07.05 # if you see the default wps then that theme is broken 01.07.08 # ah weird that 01.07.36 # you know a website i can load a picture of my screen ? 01.07.53 # then you can se what i mean 01.07.56 # there are a few people reporting the same thing in the forum (especially for the 80GBs) 01.08.08 # ohoh 01.08.12 # the freezing that is 01.08.13 # with all themes? 01.08.20 # is that a rockbox problem? 01.08.26 # hmm, haven't followed that threads. 01.08.26 # Konfuzius_Peng: imageshack.us 01.09.04 # bluebrother: Do you know what's the story with all these warnings? http://pastebin.com/933716 . I get a rockbox-build.pdf that's about 200k smaller than the .pdf at the manual page (for gigabeat), and it seems to lack at least the table of contents. 01.09.07 # it's not known yet what causes it - because none of the developers experienced it yet 01.10.34 # i hope on some day it will get fixed 01.10.40 # Llorean: that warnings are normal -- on the first LaTeX run the labels are unknown. 01.10.49 Quit ender` (" Engineers think that equations approximate the real world. Scientists think that the real world approximates equations. Ma) 01.11.01 # Konfuzius_Peng: wps'es aren't that difficult. try to fix it yourself. 01.11.04 # that will be fster 01.11.06 # but the Makefile re-runs LaTeX until those references are right, and your build breaks after the first run 01.11.08 # bluebrother: Okay, I *thought* the warnings were normal, but I do get that error at the end, and there's no table of contents in my pdf. 01.11.16 # because rockbox is the only alternative. and i dont want to use ipod not even one single day with original software (i NEED Folder structure) 01.11.20 # which explains that the TOC is missing 01.11.24 # Alright 01.11.37 # Now I wish I knew what line the syntax error was on. 01.11.54 # Konfuzius_Peng: maybe you should have bought another DAP then ;) 01.12.07 # what system are you building on? 01.12.08 # http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ipodproblemnm6.jpg 01.12.36 # cobalt screen doas not look correctly 01.12.49 # bluebrother: I'm on Ubuntu w/ Dash. I mentioned this error 2 in regards to Linuxstb's patch when he first posted it. 01.12.50 # Konfuzius_Peng: well, that's the default wps 01.13.03 # wheee german music :D 01.13.14 # Konfuzius_Peng: that is an album art wps, right? 01.13.16 # DerPapst yeah 01.13.17 # * bluebrother notices quite a couple of german people in here ;-) 01.13.32 # Llorean: then I assume we have another dash issue :( 01.13.35 # pixelma: soory dont understand what you mean 01.13.59 # Konfuzius_Peng: some themes use album art (i.e. display the cover of the album). Those require a patched build 01.14.06 # pixelma i hve copied all files out of the theme .zip file into the ipod 01.14.14 # the wps normally shoudl display Album art too? (aka CD cover) 01.14.18 # which means running such a theme on a current build won't work 01.14.26 # the cobalt.wps uses an album art pic? 01.14.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.14.40 # the wps only shows album art if you patched your build ... 01.15.21 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.15.27 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16D4A.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.15.30 # for example, BLUE RAYS, ESCAPE POD and CROSSPOD are working. iRocker, jBlack Glass and cobald look crappy 01.16.05 # Llorean: you could of course symlink bash to /bin/sh instead of dash. Then building should work 01.16.30 # maybe i have to invest a little bit more time into this :-) 01.16.39 # bluebrother: I've done that in the past when I actually wanted to build the manual. 01.16.59 # its not an "1-click-installation" ;-) 01.17.55 # * bluebrother has a suspicion 01.18.02 # (i'll bet some pople at Aplle wouldnt sleep anymore if these software would be easy to install for all peopl in minutes) 01.18.56 # pixelma one moment 01.19.23 # Konfuzius_Peng: the none working ones you mentioned all show album art (the CD cover) - this feature is not supported by an official build which is why these don't work (the short story) 01.19.39 # Konfuzius_Peng: I bet most people don't care about using anything different than the AppleOS ... 01.20.34 # pixelma yes ii uses album art. thank you :-) 01.21.13 # Llorean: does this patch fix your issue? http://pastebin.com/933719 01.21.28 # have thought that if there is no album art it keeps the place empty and the rest will look correctly 01.23.35 # good night at all 01.23.37 # gcc o sleep.c sleep && sleep -r DerPapst 01.23.39 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 01.25.35 # bluebrother: No. 01.25.50 # too bad. But it was only a quick guess. 01.26.04 # I'll look into this tomorrow. It's quite late here. 01.26.05 # bluebrother i wouldnt cary of using anything than apple software, too. if the software would allow to use files and folders structure. i dont understend how people can use this original software if they use mp3 from outside itunes. if you download a few audiobooks from elsewhere and try to upload it with itunes or another softare, all files will be in one big screen window 01.26.56 # (and completely chaos, if the id3 tags are not correct. then you here 20 audiobooks at one time, every few minutes an other file ;-) ) 01.27.18 # bluebrother: Oddly enough, it looks like it happens after it starts trying to re-make 01.27.58 # It successfully remakes rockbox-build.aux, puts rockbox-build.pdf on the chain, then has its syntax error. 01.28.13 # or maybe i am not smart enough to learn how to use apple software correctly. anyway, it sucks 01.29.25 # ok, thank you all for helping :-) 01.31.33 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 01.31.48 Join Guile`` [0] (n=Guile@84.6.61.115) 01.31.48 Join nach2 [0] (n=nacho@201-212-27-217.cab.prima.net.ar) 01.31.56 Part nach2 01.32.48 # bluebrother,is wx 2.8 python? 01.35.33 # holy shit, I just fried my h340 01.35.44 # ^^ 01.36.54 # petur: oh? 01.36.55 # crap, I think the hdd is dead 01.36.56 # petur: really? 01.37.09 # Robin0800: no. http://www.wxwidgets.org 01.37.11 # how did you managed to fry it? 01.37.16 # sounded like a turbine 01.37.34 # it was charging and I connectet the usb to my laptop 01.37.43 # connected 01.38.16 # oh man that sucks :( 01.38.23 # so now it doesn't respond at all? 01.38.36 # display stops after batt reading 01.39.00 # aaargh 01.39.39 # fuck 01.39.40 # with what error? 01.39.47 # none 01.39.50 # damn 01.40.01 # well if it turns on that's good 01.40.01 # just hangs after displaying batt voltage 01.40.10 # hm... have had such problem sometimes on my ihp-120 too 01.40.11 # open it and put your older drive 01.40.25 # it made a horrible noise, I'll never forget that :/ 01.40.46 # XavierGr: I'm busy opening it 01.40.47 # let's hope it is only the HDD that died (though even then the loss is great) :\ 01.40.57 # yes 80GB disk 01.41.04 # also check if the battery ballooned 01.41.14 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 01.41.20 # shure it is the hd? 01.41.21 # you got one of those iPod 21000 mAh right? 01.41.25 # yes 01.42.34 # (have had similar problem. player doesnt start anymore, shows only backlight and not much more. reset button doesnt help.) 01.43.33 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 01.44.43 Quit bluebrother ("shutdown -h now") 01.45.41 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 01.45.51 # (could get it started again with connecting it on a pc ith ub and after disconnecting it, it boots correctly again...weird) 01.46.02 # (nothing else helped) 01.46.18 Quit kfazz ("Leaving") 01.46.21 # with usb 01.49.14 # yep, it's the battery that caused it :( 01.50.04 # :( damn cheap 2100 mah batteries 01.50.15 Quit Guile` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.24 # I am happy that my batter is from the old newtech and 1900mAh 01.50.29 # ^battery 01.50.45 # petur: so what's the picture? 01.51.05 # petur: any leakage or broken stuff? 01.51.34 # battery is leaking (nothing spilled thank god), going to replace that first, then try the hdd 01.51.56 # strange that it managed to turn on with a broken battery 01.53.50 # bah, got to disassemlbe completely... will take some time 01.55.03 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 01.55.09 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.56.46 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 01.57.37 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 01.59.07 # anyone know which tool is the best to load the bootloader into ipod video? some people on a german chat asked me because they now want to use it too 01.59.25 # dont want to say something wrong ^^ 02.02.49 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 02.09.42 # wooooooooooooot! my 80gb boots with the old battery 02.09.48 # phew 02.10.01 # nice one! 02.10.10 # I am really happy that only your battery was to blame 02.10.18 # I can't believe it, after the horrible noise it made 02.10.32 # I was sure the hdd was gone 02.10.37 # you stand lucky in your bad luck 02.10.54 # damn cheap batteries 02.11.08 # I guess the turbine sound came from the balloned battery that needed to output the pressured gas 02.11.12 # congrats :) 02.11.27 # yeah I can't manage petur without his H300 :P 02.11.56 # I didn't know that petur needed a manager :P 02.11.58 Join nick89 [0] (i=nick89@c220-237-70-197.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au) 02.12.13 Quit nick89 (Client Quit) 02.12.43 # * XavierGr wonders if petur is going to order another battery for his H300... :P 02.12.51 # the strange coincidence is, I came across a h340 for sale for only 190 euro (includes shipping) and was thinking about a backup unit 02.12.56 # oops /s manage/imagine 02.13.07 Quit Lars_G ("Leaving") 02.13.34 # * petur starts assembling again 02.13.37 # petur: I have 2 backups for reasons like this. (an H140 and H115) 02.14.17 # There was an H320 for sale for us $75 on craigslist but it seems to have been bought already. :( 02.15.29 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-139-196-107.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.18.06 # off to bed... night all 02.18.13 # night 02.18.35 Part pixelma 02.19.34 Quit chrisjs169 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.24.22 # stop the clockwatch, h340 reassembled and working again 02.25.31 Quit midgey () 02.25.49 # working?? 02.25.59 # did you put the old HDD back? 02.26.21 # the 80gb is ok 02.26.36 # then what was the problem? 02.26.50 # the battery leaking gas must have made the noise (it was loud) 02.27.04 # so one crap cheap and now dead battery 02.30.32 # sick, I just downloaded from video.google.com at 10MB/s!! 02.30.47 # a 300MB file in just half a minute 02.32.01 # firefox? 02.32.25 # yes, why? 02.32.43 # then maybe it has loaded already pieces of the file before you decide to download it 02.33.46 # no, just a very fast connection :) 02.34.22 # MB or MBIT? 02.34.29 # university network connected to the dutch backbone 02.34.34 # ouh 02.34.38 # mega byte 02.34.45 # ...and i have thought i have a fast connection 02.34.54 # VDSL with 50 MBIT per second 02.35.04 Join chrisjs169|afk [0] (n=jack@unaffiliated/chrisjs169) 02.35.27 # what's that icon in the top right corner of the now playing screen on the Sansa? 02.35.55 # well, it's not common for me to get these speeds on the internet 02.36.05 # markun: I can also get that at times where I work :) 02.36.07 # only on our local net or from another university 02.36.25 # maybe google has a mirror here in the netherlands 02.36.33 # actually it's just not on the now playing screen - is it some sort of hdd led thing? 02.37.07 # chrisjs169|afk: yes, disk activity 02.37.09 # markun: The OSU OSL is here, has a good hunk of bandwidth 02.37.35 # bagawk: I have no clue what that means 02.37.46 # markun: ok 02.37.56 # anyway, time for sleep 02.38.12 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.38.24 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 02.38.48 # markun: fairly big open source project hoster, hosts boxes for mozilla, apache, openoffice, phpbb and lots of others 02.39.55 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@71-10-1-92.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 02.41.31 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 02.46.06 # have a private 50 MBit dsl connection and a usenet flatrate from giganews.com... all i need ;-) 02.49.15 # jhMikeS around? 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04.05.41 # lostlogic: ? 04.05.53 # saratoga: yeah 04.08.35 # JdGordon: yo 04.08.39 # hey 04.08.54 # sup 04.09.15 Quit midgey () 04.09.42 # nm 04.09.46 # freeking freezing 04.09.53 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@65.198.26.227) 04.11.40 # ha 04.11.42 # not that bad 04.11.45 # compared to other days lately 04.17.50 # another question 04.18.07 # can I call sizeof on a struct when statically allocating it 04.18.13 # something like: 04.18.29 # char *buffer[sizeof(CodecContext)]; 04.21.54 # hmm, seems to work, so I guess so! 04.28.41 Join webguest65 [0] (i=47668e4f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-de360e3d0948a963) 04.28.41 Join RhinoBanga2 [0] (n=rhinoban@host-87-74-80-27.bulldogdsl.com) 04.28.48 Quit RhinoBanga (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.16 # how do i update to the current build without deleting anything 04.29.19 # ? 04.30.26 # how do i update to the current build without deleting anything? 04.31.36 # Llorean 04.32.01 # simply extract the current build zip overtop of your present directory structure. 04.32.02 # webguest65: it is considered rude to highlight people like that...have some patience 04.32.22 # when you extract over, it should ask if you want to overwrite the files 04.32.39 # all the things you don't want deleted (.cfg files, music, playlists, themes) are not part of the .zip file and so won't get touched. 04.32.55 # ahhh... gracias senors 04.33.47 Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.36.12 # saratoga: why are you doing that? why not just create a temp variable of that struct? 04.39.30 # JdGordon: didn't think of doing that, but yes that would make more sense 04.41.09 # has anyone noticed that the sansa doesn't seem to be able to mount in disk mode if the hold switch is on? 04.42.42 # by disk mode you mean the OF? 04.46.59 # yes, sorry 04.47.05 # The OF shouldn't boot if the hold switch is on, I thought 04.47.19 # I'd expect it to if I plug in the USB though 04.47.36 # unless theres some utility in having it not mount? 04.48.24 # I can't read Sandisk's minds. 04.48.30 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 04.50.24 # I assumed that was us handling it, but you're probably right 04.50.44 # actually you must be right since rockbox hand't loaded 04.50.51 # never mind, back to ffmpeg 04.51.22 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.51.29 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.53.29 # Llorean: I think your scrolling colour lines bug is an easy fix :) 04.53.41 # JdGordon: It wasn't obvious to me at least. 04.53.52 # Since scrolling makes use of putsxy too, I think 04.54.06 # :) lunch time, back soon 04.54.23 # I've added a bit of code to the scrolling thread which hopefully will work, 04.54.27 # bbs 04.58.50 Quit _jah_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.59.05 Quit mbr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.08.22 # anyone know what the setting name for the .colours file is? 05.10.23 # grr! didnt work :'( 05.12.01 # JdGordon: What'd you add? 05.12.43 # silly stuff coz im an idiot and didnt really check how its all used first :p 05.12.53 # Hahaha. 05.14.09 # * JdGordon doing it properly this time... 05.14.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.15.07 # almost got it :) i now have a green line selector bar 05.15.14 # I managed that one. 05.15.29 # It turned white again when it scrolled, though. :-P 05.15.45 # mine stays green while scrolling... which looks horrible 05.16.06 # works correctly with the cursor though 05.16.21 # So, now to just get the selection highlight back to white? 05.16.36 # Can you check for not inverse? 05.16.48 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.175.203) 05.16.55 # doing that now 05.20.03 # JdGordon: see, still my hero, because you picked up the quick chunk of code I threew together and are making it a feature. 05.20.20 # :) 05.20.44 # I havnt got round to playing with it on my sansa yet so I still have no idea what it looks like on the actual device 05.20.48 # its fun in the sim though 05.21.00 # like the gui I put together in 15 min ? 05.21.33 # If scrolling works, it really *will* be trivial to add it to the WPS. 05.21.44 # Scrolling lines were the only place it didn't work already, basically. 05.21.53 # Or rather, the only place it wasn't obvious how to add it. 05.22.51 # fortunatly the lcd_set_colour functions are nice and cheap 05.22.57 # otherwise this wouldnt work so well 05.23.55 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.24.30 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.26.05 Join amigan [0] (i=dcp1990@unaffiliated/amigan) 05.26.30 # * JdGordon rules :D 05.26.54 # the onlly problem is there is a bit of a wait before the text goes the correct colour after being selected 05.27.34 # Hm? 05.28.11 # the time between selecting the item and it scrolling the colours are wrong, the text is the current background oclour instead of the reuqested colour 05.28.29 # thats problably a bug in the list though, so should be simple fix 05.28.47 # When the text is highlighted with inverse, right now it's always background color. 05.29.13 # Is that what you're saying? 05.29.36 # sort of, with the fix once scrolling starts the text goes the requested colour 05.29.51 # which the selection is shown in the usually foreground colour 05.30.02 # but there is half a sec when the text is the wrong colour 05.30.34 # Probably because lcd_puts_style_offset still draws inverted text with the text being the background color rather than the text color 05.37.34 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=bryan@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 05.39.39 # hang on... do we want the selection shown in its colour? or the usual bg colour? 05.39.46 # s/usual/current 05.40.41 # The most logical at first thought is the bg colour, as it always has been. 05.40.57 # But in some cases where there's only one file in the folder, whatever color you've set it might make more sense. 05.41.55 # I almost think that if it's STYLE_COLORED, then show the text color, otherwise show the background color or image? 05.43.32 # thats waht I tinhk also 05.43.58 # except.... black selection with brown text doesnt work so well... 05.44.06 # guess thats up to the person though 05.44.11 # Yep, they pick their own colors. 05.44.28 # Brown FG with a brown image for backdrop doesn't work very well either. ;) 05.45.35 # JdGordon: what are you doing now/today 05.46.25 # about to commit a fix, then got shit to do :p 05.48.54 # grr.... 1 bug to fix first though 05.53.17 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.54.56 Join jurrie_ [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 05.55.38 # * JdGordon getting bloody dark green lines 05.56.23 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 05.58.37 # actually, I cant tell if its dark green or black... either way its not inverting colours for non-coloured lines anymore :'( 06.00.14 Quit jurrie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.00.17 Part Llorean 06.27.39 Quit XavierGr () 06.28.18 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.45.13 Join webguest66 [0] (i=4a794751@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3d749a1e3eb6614a) 06.45.21 Quit webguest66 (Client Quit) 07.01.37 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 07.01.49 Quit hcs (Client Quit) 07.14.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.21.18 Quit ptw419 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.24.47 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 07.28.21 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 07.29.18 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@host.91-92-172-170.airbites.bg) 07.34.06 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 07.34.18 Part norbusan 07.35.00 Join Splosh123 [0] (n=splosh12@c58-108-234-152.fitzg1.qld.optusnet.com.au) 07.35.24 # Good Evening all... 07.36.47 # evening 07.37.13 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 07.37.15 # Anyone care to be of assistant to me...? 07.42.56 # i think everybody is sleeping, im off aswell 07.49.19 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-200-18.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 08.03.53 # JdGordon: Strange fix... 08.06.22 Quit ptw419 () 08.07.03 # oh? 08.07.36 # cant talk now... ill read logs though.. 08.08.00 # What I am wondering about is why you need to touch the bg colour at all 08.08.44 # Inverted text is supposed to swap fg and bg colour, but this is already handled by the text output itself when drawmode has the INVERSEVID flag set 08.10.18 # It doesn't make as much sense to swap them when the text is colored, because then you can no longer tell information from the color of the text (a problem when entering a single file folder). Though I'd kinda expected him to post that part as a patch, since maybe it deserves a new style denotation. 08.10.53 # Why doesn't it make sense? 08.11.09 # Well, the highlight bar uses the FG color of the UI, not the text color. 08.11.23 # Why does it do that? 08.11.34 # It should of course take the colour of the text 08.11.57 # Honestly, that ends up looking really silly comparatively. 08.12.21 # But the thing is, the text is no longer the same as the foreground. 08.12.21 Join rageahol [0] (n=rigel@64-121-196-150.c3-0.sfpo-ubr5.sfrn-sfpo.ca.cable.rcn.com) 08.12.29 # That's how it's intended to work 08.12.34 # did the battery life just do a huge quantum jump? 08.12.46 # The scrollbar on the left, statusbar and folder name, and the line selector end up being foreground color. 08.12.58 # my h10 20gig went for 3 hours when i left it on, and it was only at 47% when i got back 08.13.10 # normally, like 2.5 hours and its dead 08.13.17 # If the text keeps its own colour and the bar uses the ui colour and colours are no longer swapped, how do you read text when bar colour and text colour is the same? 08.13.30 # rageahol: Technically speaking, quantum would indicate the smallest possible increase. 08.13.45 # i said huge quantum jump 08.13.54 # meaning, discrete jump 08.14.01 # amiconn: This only happens if they've set a color in the .colors file to the same as the foreground color, which is pointless. If you don't set a color, the text is the same as the foreground color and gets properly inverted 08.14.16 # rageahol: Yes, but quantum means the smallest discrete unit. 08.14.23 # It's not pointless and can happen very easily 08.14.25 # Llorean: like the term "quantum leap"? 08.14.27 # right, thats why i used "huge" 08.14.29 # seems appropriate. 08.14.48 # Just set the foreground colour to something non-black after having added a .colours file 08.14.52 # midkay: The term quantum leap is a gross misuse of the word quantum. 08.15.01 # Llorean: it's still a popular term :) 08.15.47 # amiconn: If you set the foreground color to something non-black, then what? Unless you set it exactly the same as a color you've already used for text, it won't cause a problem. 08.16.00 # And you already can use a backdrop image or background color in conflict with your foreground. 08.16.37 # Setting fg and bg colours to identical values is prevented by the colour chooser 08.16.52 # Yes, but not when loading a .cfg, and there's no way to do so for loading a backdrop .bmp 08.17.19 # The color chooser is actually the least likely place for it to happen since if they do manage to do it, they're highlighting the exact right place to fix it already. 08.17.55 # Anyway, as I said, I don't think it's the right way for style inverse. A style highlight should be added to handle this case 08.17.57 # I'm just saying that not keeping the colour swapping both causes an additional problem and makes it look odd, since you have lines which invert and lines which don't 08.19.20 # amiconn: The only lines that invert, assuming blah.colors does not contain the foreground color, are lines where the text is the same color as the highlight bar. I think for an actual "highlight" that makes sense, but either way, inverse is currently broken in the context of "inverse" 08.21.42 # Yes, another nasty thing 08.22.03 # It makes the lcd driver behave different from what is specified 08.23.09 # I believe it only does so if the colored style is set. 08.23.16 # Or at least, last time I looked, it looked that way 08.23.26 # yes 08.23.30 # Still, it shouldn't even in that case. 08.23.53 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2884.dyn.optonline.net) 08.24.14 # amiconn: Would you object to an added highlight style that functions the way it does now, and then restoration of the proper inverse? 08.24.22 # So even if this odd behaviour is desired in the ui, the implementation is broken. 08.25.12 # The scroll structure needs to store fg and bg colour, and the ui needs to set them instead of using this odd style magic 08.26.07 # Perhaps it would make sense to make the selector bar colour settable on colour targets, instead of just inverting the text 08.26.17 # That's essentially what I planned to do. 08.26.33 # First lock it to the UI / Foreground color and get inverse fixed, then add its own color afterward. 08.27.47 # Storing the colours in the scroll struct (or rather, a cloned sub-viewport) is necessary anyway with viewports 08.28.08 # It will even have to store some more attributes 08.28.27 # just quickly, why isnt the style variable copied for the scroll struct instead of it being split up? 08.29.21 # * JdGordon will read logs tomoro night, cyaz 08.29.25 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.31.09 Quit DataGhost ("NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°") 08.34.47 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.35.47 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 08.39.03 Quit petur (Client Quit) 08.40.50 Join webguest59 [0] (i=7dee3255@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec1eedf767783572) 08.42.14 # I just realized that the inversevid stuff could probably be removed for anything else than mono targets 08.42.22 Part Splosh123 08.42.32 # Setting fg and bg colour accordingly has the same effect 08.43.05 # hi 08.43.49 # And I guess that as the ui will start using more and more colour, the need for pure inversion will be reduced 08.44.07 # i need help with my rockbox, i've installed it onto my ipod nano but i can't play any of the .rvf files...what's wrong?? 08.44.15 # I'm not actually familiar with anywhere it is used other than the highlight line, though I'll admit to having done no research at all before saying this. 08.44.31 # Even on greyscale target I can imagine the selector bar to not invert the text, but leave the text in black and draw the selector in light grey 08.44.36 # webguest59: You aren't supposed to be playing rvf files. 08.45.18 # amiconn: I think that might actually look quite nice. 08.45.19 # The only displays where we need inversion are the mono ones(that includes the iriver remotes of course) 08.46.24 # i got the files from a website that was linked to thr rockbox page, it says that i can play the .rvf file if i have rockbox on my player...did i missunderstood something? how can i play the .rvf files then? 08.47.00 # webguest59: Where did the Rockbox page say to use RVF files on a Nano? Have you tried simply reading the rockbox manual for the Nano? 08.47.01 # Llorean: So for the selector, it would actually be the job of the ui to set colours properly. Set bg to the ui foreground colour (or preferably a separate selector colour), and set fg to the text colour 08.47.36 Part maffe 08.47.46 # amiconn: And if they match, perhaps allow the option to set a fallback color for the text, rather than straight inverse? 08.47.46 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1594F.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.48.28 # Or just inverse if they match? 08.49.31 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 08.50.20 # Inverse, I'd say (i.e. set the ui bg colour as fg) 08.50.24 # http://rockboxvideo.redbreva.co.uk/ <__ i got the videos from here... 08.51.05 # webguest59: An entirely unofficial site. 08.52.36 # oh..ok...but it was linked to the rockbox page, here.... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial ..... under "Sample Clips" 08.52.39 # webguest59: RVF files only play on certain grayscale players. Please try reading the manual. 08.52.50 # ok 08.52.53 # thanks.. 08.53.07 # i have, but i guess i missed that part.. 08.53.10 # thanks again.. 08.53.16 # Wiki pages are also community maintained. 08.53.47 # The manual is where you should look, carefully, first. 08.54.01 Quit webguest59 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.54.07 # amiconn: So when text color == fgcolor, draw the text in bgcolor instead when highlighted? 08.54.12 # Llorean: Hmm. Regarding the manual and rockbox' file formats - not all formats are supported on all targets 08.54.26 # amiconn: Honestly, I was assuming he'd just look up video. 08.54.45 # But the manual only explains those which are supported by the respective target. 08.55.36 # Maybe the appendix could have a list of *all* rockbox supported file formats, saying "not supported on " accordingly? 08.55.48 # That would be quite beneficial I think. Reduce some confusion. 08.56.05 # Even just a table of extensions, with columns by player? 08.56.38 Quit printfXh4 (No route to host) 08.56.41 # Hmm, so you can see which other targets support this format? 08.56.51 # Exactly. 08.57.20 # The question is how much information about other targets should be put in our target specific manuals 08.57.55 # Llorean: No, when text colour == selector colour, use bg colour for the text instead 08.58.10 # amiconn: That's what I meant, though I perhaps didn't phrase it properly. 08.59.31 # * GodEater feels sorry for the man with the Zune in our forums 09.00.19 # Perhaps the standard selector colour should be orange... 09.00.34 # ...complementing the rockbox look 09.00.47 # Rockbox orange selector, black text, rockbox blue background. 09.01.00 # And we have a "real" UI 09.01.01 # :-P 09.01.18 # yup 09.01.25 # "For the past five months, I've been monitoring the Zune-Linux forum daily" eek.. 09.01.34 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.03.09 # poor bloke 09.03.23 # what a waste of his time 09.03.28 # o.o 09.03.29 # why 09.03.48 # Still it's an expensive piece of hardware, and it's hard to replace a gift with something else without giving offense in many cases. 09.04.10 # Llorean: yes - but I agree that he might have spent his time better looking for support for accessing it from linux 09.04.11 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.04.17 # rather than running linux *on* it 09.04.23 # GodEater: Definitely true 09.04.37 # esp. given those jokers over there 09.04.43 # I'm just glad he didn't send them any money 09.05.21 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.06.57 # one day I shall have to give iPL a try - to see if I can understand why running linux on a DAP makes any sort of sense 09.07.08 # because I don't get it at all at the moment 09.07.48 # I tried iPL for about half an hour. 09.07.55 # Though it was over a year ago 09.08.14 # I never get the impression from the iPL site that there's much dev. work actually happening 09.08.24 # so a year seems pretty recent to me :) 09.08.50 # I guess your impression wasn't so positive then if you didn't bother keeping it 09.09.05 # Actually, I really only booted it to verify that the (then) brand new Rockbox bootloader could load it. 09.09.16 # Since we'd been having some strange issues with getting it to load the retail OS on the Nano 09.09.48 # Nothing I saw caught my attention though 09.09.58 # I think the major draws are either PDA like features, or games 09.10.12 # * scorche motions to his treo 09.10.16 # I'm fairly certain I'd prefer a PDA to do PDA like functions 09.10.17 # :) 09.10.19 # let my DAP be a DAP 09.10.23 # yep 09.10.33 # * GodEater has an hp4150 for that 09.10.39 # not that I use it much 09.10.44 # much better screen too 09.10.45 # and it does have linux on it ;) 09.11.05 # none of this windows CE rubbish 09.11.21 # see 09.11.26 # I'd rather my pda to be a laptop 09.11.42 # * GodEater has one of those too 09.12.47 # not that it's that portable - it's one of those Dell XPS "BoogieBoards" :) 09.14.09 # PDA and DAP are the same letters ... 09.14.28 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 09.14.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.14.48 Join nls [0] (n=nils@h218n1fls35o293.telia.com) 09.15.12 # GodEater: The Dell XPS reminds me - I still don't understand why the norebook manufacturers decided to put these glare displays into consumer notebooks... 09.15.32 # These displays are a nightmare 09.15.46 # indeed 09.16.00 # Glare displays? 09.16.20 # they have an extra shiny layer of plastic that seems to pick up glare from nowhere 09.16.21 # I'm so happy I found a 1920x1024 non-reflective 09.16.26 # Ah, yeah 09.16.38 # If I'd want a mirror, I'd buy a mirror. Also much cheaper than a notebook 09.16.44 # :) 09.17.14 # * nls would like that standard test-track now... 09.17.42 # bug Soap in a few hours 09.17.59 # preliminary tests with vorbis when building rockbox with gcc 4.1 are very dissapointing... 09.18.07 # scorche: :-) 09.19.30 # petur: what did you buy then ? 09.19.44 # dell lattitude d820 09.19.51 # Tremor built with -O2 in gcc 4.1 is _slower_ than when built with -O1 in gcc 3.4 :-/ 09.20.11 # round of applause for the gcc team then 09.25.39 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 09.27.09 # morning linuxstb 09.29.19 # Good morning 09.29.32 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.33.33 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-106-212.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 09.33.46 Join davina_ [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.34.01 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549671CC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.41.26 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 09.41.32 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 09.50.26 Part nls 09.53.30 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@h218n1fls35o293.telia.com) 09.53.34 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 09.57.31 Quit n1s (Client Quit) 09.58.53 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E7E4.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.02.41 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@47.37.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 10.04.00 Join nls [0] (n=nils@h218n1fls35o293.telia.com) 10.04.01 # Moin 10.04.05 # oops, sorry, wrong tab :) 10.04.22 # oh thanks, so no good morning for us? 10.07.07 # Hehe :) DerPapst has telled me, that greetings here not usual are (I'm sorry for my bad English :D) 10.07.27 # *has told me 10.07.34 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.07.47 # wow - we come across as a soulless bunch don't we ? 10.07.58 # The-Compiler: people greet from time to time 10.08.08 # * GodEater waves to everyone to prove it 10.09.51 # perphaps people think that because they got yelled at while asking about something off topic (like ipl) while we can talk about beer all we went.. 10.10.15 # :D 10.10.29 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.10.30 # regering to "soulless bunch" 10.10.32 # I think that's the same as any IRC channel I've ever sat it. You have to earn your right to wander off topic 10.10.39 # -typos 10.10.41 # markun: well, how i see it, is there are certain perks to being entrenched in the community and/or being a dev 10.10.50 # hmmm beer time in 7 hours.... 10.11.55 # petur: I have a bottle of vodka and a bottle of whiskey in my desk drawer :) 10.12.15 # * petur wonders what quality a 7,5 euro 2200mAh battery will be :/ 10.13.39 # btw, for people who only know me as an old, wild, bearded guy at devcon: http://130.89.160.166/no_more_beard.jpg 10.13.40 # * GodEater wonders what *shape* it'll be 10.14.09 # aaaaaaaaaaahh *runs away sccreaming* 10.14.26 # markun: wow....huge difference! 10.14.27 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 10.14.47 # yes, took me a while to get used to my face in the mirror 10.14.58 # :) 10.15.00 # * petur discovers markun has a mouth :p 10.15.13 # petur: where did you think all that indian food went? 10.15.25 # you guys had indian food as well? 10.15.26 # in the beard? 10.15.31 # I only saw that little device on your plate 10.15.46 # scorche: you too? 10.15.55 # petur: yes, crazy swedes :) 10.15.57 # well, i didnt, but everyone else did... 10.16.10 # you don't like it? 10.16.11 # "14:46 Found an Indian buffet to eat at" 10.16.42 # * GodEater works a stone's throw from Brick Lane. 10.16.53 # Soooooo much Indian food to choose from.... 10.17.10 # * scorche isnt a fan of indian food 10.17.21 # scorche: what about thai? 10.17.28 # * scorche is a picky eater 10.17.54 # * GodEater used to be a picky eater, then discovered he was missing out on a whole lot of stuff 10.18.13 # i still laugh at this picture... http://scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/HPIM0547e.jpg 10.18.31 # we all find some little snack food as dinner, and he pulls that out.. 10.18.50 # it was good cheese though =) 10.19.19 # yes, doesn't look bad 10.19.56 # the amount of beer that petur pulled out of his bag was also quite amazing 10.20.05 # you're supposed to remove that white stuff from around the sausage before cutting it 10.20.35 # petur: it was easy to peel off in tiny bits 10.20.39 # petur: those barbarian french guys :) 10.20.57 # at least I assume it was toffe 10.21.09 # and red chimay > blue chimay...agreed? 10.21.15 # markun: aye 10.21.26 # scorche: does he have a french accent? 10.21.33 # quite strong 10.22.30 # scorche: I don't know... I'm not that much a chimay fan... but yes, a bit 10.23.08 # * GodEater had Banana Bread Beer last weekend 10.23.12 # that was damn nice 10.23.55 Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") 10.24.58 # markun: about the accent, all of us have decided to call them jiggabeats after the devcon 10.25.13 # ;) 10.25.46 # after watching "Back to the Future" I always assumed that's how "Giga" was pronounced in the USA anyway 10.26.07 # well, i cant really type with a french accent 10.26.21 # :) 10.26.23 # zhiggabeat might be a better way 10.26.31 # ah - yes 10.26.38 # that sounds more french in my head 10.26.42 # áéîòù 10.28.23 # too much fun...i cant wait till next year =) 10.30.11 Join obo [0] (n=obo@host217-41-62-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 10.34.39 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp41-125.adsl.forthnet.gr) 10.36.46 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 10.42.38 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.44.26 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 10.46.59 Quit XavierGr () 10.49.05 # petur: I wouldn't really trust LiIon batteries which aren't made for the specific device 10.49.29 # Charging characteristics might be different, and LiIon batteries are very sensitive to overcharging 10.49.42 # it was a typical ipod 1/2gen battery, a bit thicker than the original 10.50.23 # the trouble is finding a good quality 2200mAh-ish battery 10.50.26 # Yes, and ipod batteries aren't made for the iriver. They're made for ipods 10.50.36 # realy? :p 10.50.55 # I'd rather stick with the stock battery than risk my player for a bit more runtime 10.51.11 # I think the nasty noise might have actually been caused by the hdd, because the battery pressed on it 10.51.54 # well it survived, so I'm happy 10.52.16 # 80GB don't come cheap ;) 10.52.38 # 2200maH I bought for my iriver seemed to fit ok 10.53.04 # was it sold as ipod batt or iriver? 10.53.11 # GodEater: Yes, it will fit, but it might break like petur's 10.53.31 # Ballooning because of overcharge 10.53.51 # btw, there's an h340 for sale for 190 euro (shipping included) on mr 10.54.59 # I saw it just before mine started acting up 11.05.48 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3073.gwdg.de) 11.09.11 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967648.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.14.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.22.08 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 11.33.40 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 11.33.51 Part kaaloo 11.34.29 Join bluebrother [0] (i=VEYzlum5@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 11.43.36 Part pixelma 11.52.59 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host226-217-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.58.06 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496475C.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.00.05 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m21.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.06.50 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.08.04 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496475C.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.23.13 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54966FFD.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.27.39 # w00t! 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But I think so. 13.01.27 # hehe 13.01.53 # nvm ;-) 13.03.07 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.03.29 # Now I know it: It was bluebrother 13.03.41 # * DerPapst doesn't have any issues with his 80GB 'Pod either... yet. 13.04.28 # bluebrother... as usual :-P 13.05.00 # markun: I don't believe it's anything to do with the ata driver 13.05.09 # my 80GB ipod is absolutely fine 13.05.19 # what else is different in the 80GB ipods? 13.05.34 # nothing AFAIK 13.06.00 # I'm convinced it's a user issue 13.06.03 # I just don't know what ;) 13.06.05 # markun: Regarding your edit to HardDriveReplacement - is a "CE-ATA" interface the one most Rockbox targets have (called "pins" on that page)? 13.08.23 # A description of the different 1.8" connectors would be useful if anyone knows enough about them to add a description to that page... 13.08.43 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.218.238) 13.09.41 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3034.gwdg.de) 13.10.26 # GodEater: and the 5.5G has a different battery + backlight LEDs... but rockbox doesn't care about that ;) 13.10.39 # linuxstb: no, CE-ATA is 18 pins 13.10.49 # amiconn knows something about it 13.11.09 # I'll put some info in the wiki 13.11.10 # So we could call them 18-pin and 50-pin interfaces? (am I right in thinking the standard ones are 50?) 13.11.17 Part austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 13.11.18 # Or is it 44... 13.11.51 # * linuxstb loves having lots of standards to choose from... 13.12.07 # hehe 13.12.19 # I think there are now 18, 40, 44 and 50 pin 1.8" HDD's :) 13.12.32 # Plus a few variations of ZIP? 13.12.35 # linuxstb: CE-ATA is MMC compatible 13.12.35 # ^AIF 13.12.42 # * linuxstb gives up typing 13.12.42 # don't forget the zif's 13.12.55 # ZIF == 40, no? 13.13.05 # errmm 13.13.21 # CE-ATA is also called ZIP-18 on span.com I think 13.13.25 # * DerPapst goes into GodEaters corner 13.13.28 # Don't some drives have the pins along the long edge? 13.13.45 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.13.59 # linuxstb: yes, the Hitachi drives I believe 13.14.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.06 # markun: So 18 and 40 are ZIF, and 44 and 50 are pins? 13.15.18 # ZIP != ZIF I think 13.15.30 # ZIP was a typo by me 13.15.32 # actually, I'm not sure what ZIP-18 means 13.15.41 # I meant to say ZIF 13.15.42 # I can't find anything about it 13.16.21 # linuxstb: well, they use it on span.com too http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_504_1803&products_id=13926&osCsid=f0c279e22b7c2f053030444630f69197 13.16.33 # "ZIP-18 CE-ATA" 13.17.05 # ;) 13.17.05 # I know more than I thought I did... 13.17.52 # I can't find any info about it 13.18.22 # Maybe that's just a typo as well 13.18.51 # linuxstb: http://www.ce-ata.org/specifications.asp 13.19.09 # there are 2 connectors for CE-ATA: 12 pin and 18 pin 13.21.02 # and here: http://www.seagate-asia.com/anz/ecatalog/ 13.21.22 # Type of Connector: Seagate ZIP (18-pin) 13.21.30 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 13.22.32 # linuxstb: maybe we should remove the CE-ATA part in the wiki until there are DAPs which actually use it? 13.26.19 # linuxstb: There are 5 possible interfaces for 1.8" hdds 13.26.35 # (1) 44-pin ATA (like 2.5" hdds, long side) 13.26.55 # (2) 50-pin ATA (the one used by most of our targets) 13.27.06 # (3) PC-Card 13.27.16 # amiconn: why not put that in the wiki? ;) 13.27.25 # (4) 40-pin ZIF (the one used in the ipod video) 13.27.44 # (5) 18-pin CE-ATA (serial connection based on the MMC standard) 13.29.48 # amiconn: PC-Card is 68 pins? 13.30.29 # yes 13.30.57 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 13.32.15 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 13.32.27 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.32.31 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-10324.bb.online.no) 13.33.28 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 13.33.47 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.42.222) 13.33.47 Join webguest79 [0] (i=c0231115@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e8d9e247aa059ac1) 13.34.22 # good night everyone 13.34.30 # :) 13.34.31 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 13.34.41 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6A57.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.36.53 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.38.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host120-8.pool80183.interbusiness.it) 13.45.10 Quit Buschel () 13.52.17 Join ze_ [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 13.52.25 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.52.32 Nick ze_ is now known as ze (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 13.55.34 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496714D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.03.14 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54967C42.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.05.17 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.08.43 # linuxstb: I added the Samsung N1 series to the list of HDDs 14.13.11 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 14.15.41 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.26.01 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.31.05 Quit lee-qid_ ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 14.31.10 # * austriancoder needs a break from hacking... 14.31.15 Nick austriancoder is now known as ac_away (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 14.31.37 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.52 # * petur looks at his boss... he nods 'no' :/ 14.36.12 Join KRolfe [0] (n=ken_rolf@ip68-14-86-65.ri.ri.cox.net) 14.36.46 # Hello 14.37.07 # Is there anybody around that could help me? 14.39.40 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 14.40.36 # KRolfe: There probably is - ask your question and you'll find out. 14.45.50 # Ah, thanks. 14.46.34 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 14.47.12 # linuxstb: with 120GB drives from Seagate and Samsung it looks like we will be able to upgrade our DAPs for quite some while 14.47.16 Nick ze is now known as ze_ (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 14.47.25 Nick ze_ is now known as ze (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 14.47.37 # yes, but thay will all be ZIF :( 14.47.42 # *they 14.47.54 # petur: then we'll just have to make a converter 14.48.10 # When rockbox is loaded and i connect it to my PC it doesnt recognise the device. So i cant update my music. Does anybody know a fix? 14.48.15 # mass-product :) 14.48.30 # KRolfe: Which device? 14.48.31 # KRolfe: which player? 14.48.38 # ipod 3g 14.48.56 # it doesn't who up in explorer? 14.48.57 # * petur managed not to press enter after typing the same question :) 14.49.05 # show up 14.49.08 # Rockbox doesn't have USB or firewire detection on the 3G - you need to manually reboot into either the Apple firmware or the emergency disk mode 14.49.19 # ah :) 14.49.30 # explorer gives me an unrecognised device balloon 14.49.40 # ah ok 14.50.00 # thanks alot guys i thought i was in trouble ha! 14.50.31 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 14.50.45 # Apart from that, how is it working? There have been reports recently that the 3G port is quite unstable. 14.51.45 # well i just installed it for the first time and was wondering how to load some music to try it out. 14.51.46 # (and there are not currently any active developers with 3Gs) 14.53.26 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 14.55.06 Join antgel [0] (n=antony@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/antgel) 14.55.47 # hello all, problem with my iriver h340 - upgrading to latest version didn't fix... 14.56.22 # antgel: what is the problem? 14.57.10 # ... basically clicking a song to play, it doesn't play - display shows a different song in the same directory - rm'd .rockbox, no joy. works with factory firmware (eugh). is there a database not in .rockbox that might have become corrupt? 14.57.29 # or alternatively, what can i do to get a debug log for you guys? 14.57.53 # Did you chkdsk /f your filesystem? 14.57.58 # markun: hi, i was coming to that - just wanted to say hi before flooding the channel :) 14.58.04 # ok :) 14.58.39 # antgel: well, we have a database, but if you click on files in the file browser it has nothing to do with the db 14.58.54 # linuxstb: well, i thought of that - i don't have a windows box around so i tried dosfsck - reported little - just free space was out slightly 14.59.08 # markun: yeah, i thought maybe something lower-level 14.59.32 # linuxstb: if dosfsck is crap, i'll try and locate a windows box 14.59.45 # You could try a reformat. 14.59.57 # it could well be that, i drop the thing more often than i hold it 15.00.27 # but - is it not strange that factory firmware works fine, and if i mount it in linux, i can play songs from it using xmms or whatever? 15.00.36 # it is 15.00.45 # I was about to ask about playing the files from Linux... 15.00.57 # works fine 15.01.08 # there is one other thing 15.01.48 # an error crept into my sync script, and i think i ran unix2dos on a bunch of oggs (it should just run on m3us) 15.01.53 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-10324.bb.online.no) 15.02.04 # That would cause issues... 15.02.08 # hmm 15.02.29 # okay, interesting. so why does factory firmware and xmms not give a toss? 15.02.32 # I'm not sure how robust Rockbox is with corrupt files - it wouldn't surprise me if that could cause crashes. 15.03.04 # here's a plan - if i make one such file available, could you download it and try it on your player? 15.03.34 # Sure. 15.03.43 # *thinks* 15.03.49 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.03.57 # What if you create a new folder with known good files? Do they play? 15.03.57 # you got an ftp or scp server i can copy it to? :) 15.04.15 Join webguest15 [0] (i=864c030b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ba60c5bc84ab7780) 15.04.24 # No, I don't. 15.04.52 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 15.04.54 # antgel: maybe you can host it on a webserver? 15.05.44 # antgel: just an idea, could it be that you have "play selected first" disabled and "shuffle" enabled? 15.06.32 # uploading now 15.06.55 # webguest15: I didn't even know about the "play selected first" option :) 15.07.23 # * linuxstb reads about the BBC's Glastonbury festival coverage, and sees it will be live on up to 8 TV channels simultaneously, plus radio, plus online.... 15.08.30 # linuxstb: a new folder with known good files works. :( what a doofus. 15.08.37 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 15.08.54 # luckily most of my music is on my mythtv box. i think :> 15.08.58 # :| even 15.09.26 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 15.09.34 Quit ze ("checking some shit") 15.09.52 # although that still doesn't explain why rockbox chokes and the others don't 15.10.24 # a non-working file is at http://www.antgel.co.uk/01-in_the_presence_of_enemies__part_i.ogg/view if anyone is interested 15.10.40 # it will not be there for long :) 15.11.02 # antgel: nice music taste. 15.11.24 # webguest15: oh yeah. you know irc's gonna be full of prog geeks :) 15.12.12 # antgel: My first test (using oggdec) decodes it fine... 15.12.29 Part KRolfe 15.13.14 # But trying it in a Rockbox sim, it doesn't work and displays "No file!" in the WPS. 15.13.33 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 15.14.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.59 # hmm, eclipse editor seems to integrate quite well with rockbox :) 15.15.07 # i have to go out now but i'll be interested to read any further comments - i don't know if this qualifies for bug status as i may have run unix2dos on the file 15.15.22 # * antgel reads above 15.15.30 Nick webguest15 is now known as PaulJam (i=864c030b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ba60c5bc84ab7780) 15.15.36 # okay, i know it /doesn't/ ;) 15.16.35 Quit ze (Client Quit) 15.16.43 # antgel: Rockbox should fail gracefully with bad input, not freeze. So technically I would say it's a bug... 15.17.11 # Slasheri: it does? I gave up on it and went with anjuta 15.19.35 # petur: just tried it, and even compiling works and it detects all syntax errors :) 15.19.53 # just needed to change the default build command from "make" to "make -f iriver/Makefile" 15.20.52 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 15.24.53 # * petur will try that in anjuta then :) 15.25.25 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484BB5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.25.54 # hehe 15.29.07 # Slasheri: doe your last commit mean that i can now use entrys from the tagnavi.config even if i use a custom entry as rootentry? 15.33.44 # PaulJam: menus, yes 15.36.12 # cool 15.36.39 # :) 15.41.20 Quit pearldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.42.24 Part PaulJam 15.46.55 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.50.51 Nick ac_away is now known as austriancoder (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 15.52.35 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 15.59.57 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 16.04.57 Quit webguest79 ("CGI:IRC") 16.05.58 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.06.36 Part maffe 16.11.29 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 16.11.35 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 16.13.59 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3011.gwdg.de) 16.19.11 # hmm, i just noticed that i have a track with a user rating of "-2". how is that possible? 16.22.57 # #define REAL_CRAP -2 16.23.29 # Maybe Rockbox just disagrees with your personal tastes in music. 16.24.05 # maybe the rating overflows (and the track was overrated anyway)? 16.24.22 # I'm surprised the ratings aren't unsigned. 16.27.05 # nevermind, i guess i shouldn't have mentioned this in the first place since i'm not usingan official build. 16.29.26 # petur: not #define BAG_OF_SHIT? 16.29.48 # no that's 0 16.30.07 # because by default, rockbox sounds like a bag of shit ;) 16.30.18 # Llorean: seen my last commit? Building on Ubuntu worked for me when I tried in my virtual box 16.30.38 # so hopefully all dash issues are solved, at least for the manual 16.32.46 Quit ansivirus ("Leaving") 16.32.59 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 16.33.41 # bluebrother: It looks like it works 16.33.53 # great :) 16.34.04 # Though there's an error relating to mkinfo.pl at the end. 16.34.10 # Is that relating to the version file? 16.35.05 # mkinfo.pl makes the info text file 16.35.22 # that's normal if you do a "make" only ATM... try "make manual" - bluebrother explained that here to me yesterday 16.35.37 # must be in the logs 16.35.46 # Ah, yes no message with make manual 16.35.58 # btw, I also changed the latex run mode to nonstopmode (but forgot to mention it in the commit message) 16.36.19 # this means that tex-ing won't stop if an error occurs and wait for user input but just fail. 16.36.20 # ah, already in today's log 16.36.45 # you can always check the log file for the exact place of the error anyway (lines starting with !) 16.36.56 # bluebrother: I prefer that. When it waits for user input, it's very confusing for users like me who don't know what it's wanting. 16.37.29 # yeah, that was the idea. Plus, when I'm batch-building all manuals it's easier to cancel. 16.45.40 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.45.55 Join H3g3m0n [0] (n=hegemon@220-244-61-150.static.tpgi.com.au) 16.46.53 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 16.46.53 # My database view has 4 entries for individual each file, anyone know why its happening? Using latest build, ipodnano1g 16.48.48 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 16.49.42 # petur: need help - http://rafb.net/p/kyDGI867.html 16.50.00 # sorry, busy right now 16.51.28 Part maffe 16.51.43 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 16.51.44 # @all: need help - http://rafb.net/p/kyDGI867.html 16.53.35 # * petur back for 10 min 16.53.57 # sorry, I was debugging E1 signals, needs a bit of attention 16.54.08 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 16.55.19 # so the struct must be aligned on a 2K boundary? 16.55.31 # seems so 16.55.51 Part maffe 16.56.36 # hmmm can't we get rid of that requirement, maybe that's because the mem is shared by user and kernel in linux? 16.56.56 # so maybe we don't need it (ie it's a linux thing?) 16.57.50 # petur: I will do some tests the next hour.. 16.58.20 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.42.222) 16.59.04 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.00.02 # otherwise aligned (alignment) is what you want 17.00.17 # an attribute for gcc 17.00.26 # example "struct S { short f[3]; } __attribute__ ((aligned (8)));" 17.02.17 # Bagder: thanks 17.03.20 # Hmm, other than the H1x0 and H3x0 is there any rockboxable player that supports recording on both an internal and an external microphone? 17.03.38 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 17.04.24 # I don't know if the X5 has an internal mic 17.04.26 # lostlogic: x5 i think 17.04.45 # not the m5 though? 17.07.31 # ask pixelma or amiconn 17.08.19 # according to BuyersGuide wiki the m5 has an internal mic, but the subpack for the external mic use isnt included 17.09.05 # PaulJam: thanks :) I totally forgot about that wiki page and I helped write it ;) 17.09.16 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-066-057-231-236.nc.res.rr.com) 17.09.35 # the M5 and the X5 have both internal mics and line-in through the subpack. OndioFM (and I guess the other Archos recorders too) also have a line-in and internal mic 17.10.24 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 17.11.45 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 17.13.45 Quit petur ("*plop*") 17.14.00 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 17.15.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.17.25 Part maffe 17.18.30 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@cpe-069-134-238-130.nc.res.rr.com) 17.18.35 # Hey folks. 17.20.22 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 17.20.52 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 17.21.55 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 17.28.12 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965B5B.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.29.16 Join webguest98 [0] (i=46a0c88f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1c6dcf4af8c5bc83) 17.30.18 # hi godzirra! 17.30.18 Quit webguest98 (Client Quit) 17.30.40 Join greenhawk87 [0] (i=46a0c88f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3af5713d650ecbf6) 17.32.58 Quit greenhawk87 (Client Quit) 17.38.30 Join webguest64 [0] (i=46a0c88f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-88c9d01e51b53f00) 17.45.36 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 17.50.01 # * austriancoder read the first recived usb packet 17.50.33 # hey if anyone is intresested in buying a gigabeat s60 email me at rockbox_rules@yahoo.com (i want to help with the port of rockbox to it but idk crap. so ill just sell it) 17.50.49 # austriancoder: is that a breakthrough? 17.50.53 # Would it be possible to make attachments on flyspray open a download dialog insead of showing the file? 17.51.20 # markun: maybe.. I needed about 1.5 hours to find an never ending loop 17.51.43 # PaulJam: I think it works by sending back the mime-type the user's browser sent when uploading the file. 17.51.43 Part maffe 17.54.07 # * austriancoder eats a winner cake now *verygood* 17.54.37 # Congrats austriancoder! 17.55.45 # webguest64 how much 17.56.47 # idk depends on how much the person wants to offer i wus think around a hundred or sumthing 17.57.21 # webguest64 join #gigabeat and tell them 17.57.31 # idk how to do that 17.57.34 # webguest64: USD? 17.57.39 # yes 17.57.51 # alienbiker99: it's not possible with the webclient 17.57.56 # oh ok 17.58.17 # i was hoping somebody over here could tell them for me 17.58.42 # just told em 17.58.49 # thanks a lot 18.00.51 # do u think 100USD is to low, i was really thinking of 150-200USD but i did not want to sound selfish 18.01.09 # it's not very high no 18.01.38 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e176243045.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.01.56 # brand new in box? unopened? 18.02.04 # no. its used 18.07.21 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@e179216058.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.10.01 Quit webguest64 ("CGI:IRC") 18.12.00 Join webguest64 [0] (i=46a0c88f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7494fd62687fed03) 18.13.11 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 18.13.24 # ....hope i dont get ripped off, anyway thats all i wanted to say. thx for your help alienbiker99 18.13.45 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p5484AD77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.13.45 Part webguest64 18.14.00 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 18.16.32 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 18.18.57 Part maffe 18.18.58 Join KongK [0] (n=kjetil@152.80-203-121.nextgentel.com) 18.21.38 # Help please? The IPN-TWD-00-theme has no cursor/marker on my iPod Nano. Read FAQ and soforth, tried editing the theme, but can't figure our what to edit.. 18.21.41 # My ipod is failing.. 18.21.52 # I have to format it but fdisk, cfdisk etc cannot open it 18.24.23 # KongK: do you mean the progress bar? 18.24.37 # pixie: what does fdisk say when you try to open it? 18.26.03 # no, the marker in the menus, for navigating around. The wps is OK 18.26.22 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-104-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.27.13 # KongK: I don't even think you can disable that marker. Maybe a problem with the colours or something 18.27.44 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.29.04 # KongK: does the theme have a black backdrop/background in the menus? 18.29.14 # I think so as well, but do you now how/what to edit? I noticed that some themes 18.29.23 # sorry... 18.29.34 # Paul:Yes 18.31.20 # KongK: then i guess the problem is that you are using the little arrow marker instead of the inverted bar as selector, which is black if you use the default icons 18.32.53 # another good reason to remove it :) 18.33.13 # That makes sense. Marun: Hoeto? 18.33.13 # KongK: to solve this you could either use a custom iconset which doesn't have a black cursor. or you could use the inverse bar selector (remove the line "invert cursor: off" fron the file .rockbox/config.cfg) 18.33.34 # nice! will try. thanks! 18.33.51 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.33.59 # KongK: well, it was removed because we all thought nobody used it, but then people started complaining and we put it back :) 18.34.44 # markun: i think it is planned for the future that the monochrome icons are drawn in foreground colour. 18.35.06 # PaulJam: sounds like a good plan 18.36.12 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 18.36.35 # Everyone: Thanks, works now! 18.37.07 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 18.37.12 # KongK: you're welcome 18.39.09 Quit amigan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.39.19 # This is an excellent project! Ipod without Ogg-support? Pah! Thanks again! I love this OSS-community feeling! 18.39.54 # and help is always welcome 18.40.20 # so if you think you can contribute in any way, feel free to do so 18.41.17 # I would love to, but I'm not nearly competent enough... 18.41.28 Part maffe 18.42.05 # KongK: well, there are quite a couple of options besides coding. Like supporting new users in the forums, or helping with the manual. 18.42.26 # or donating.. *hint* ..*hehe* :-) 18.43.05 # I'm sort of a new user myself. Day three... 18.44.11 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 18.44.20 # But I'm learning... ;-) 18.44.34 # gah im so stupid, the positive wire pulled out of my battery 18.45.11 # Do you have a translations-team? 18.45.26 # not really a team 18.45.36 # but a lot of tranlations 18.46.07 # most of the translations are in the need of updates i think.. 18.46.09 # KongK: any translation you are interested in? 18.46.25 # translations are contributed by users 18.46.28 # well, I'm norwegian, so thats a start... 18.46.44 # small language, though.. 18.46.55 # we have a norsk and nynorsk translation (but I guess you knew that) 18.47.07 Join nobutada55 [0] (n=cameron3@pool-151-199-53-91.bos.east.verizon.net) 18.48.46 # Can anyone help me with my Sansa E270? 18.48.52 # KongK: info about translations: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles 18.49.12 # nobutada55: probably not me, but what's wrong? 18.49.34 # I want to figure out why my rockboy doesn't work. 18.50.08 # I have heard other people playing gameboy games on theirs but mine doesn't load when I choose the game 18.50.16 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.50.31 # nobutada55 did you see if it is supported on the sansa yet 18.50.57 # Where can I find this information? 18.51.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebSearch?topic=PluginRockboy 18.52.05 # wiki says no sansa at moment, but it could be out of date.. 18.52.21 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.52.37 # nobutada55: do you have .rockbox/viewers/rockboy.rock on your sansa? 18.53.01 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p5484AD77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.53.11 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.53.18 # there might be a patch on flyspray for it 18.53.25 # I'm pretty sure 18.54.32 # Wrong firmware loaded now I have to wait... 18.54.37 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 18.54.47 # nobutada55: what happens if you select a .gb or .gbc file? 18.55.08 # It shows the screen as if it was a music file 18.55.37 # nobutada55: can you "hold select" and then "open with" and then "rockboy" 18.55.45 # are you using an official build? 18.56.09 # Now it doesn't even load 18.56.21 # I'll format it and reinstall 18.56.45 # ok 18.56.54 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 18.57.05 # nobutada55: just to be sure. the files you are trying to open have the extension .gb or .gbc ? 18.57.31 # .gb 18.57.41 # pokemon blue to be exact 19.00.41 # Now that I formatted it, it trys to boot rockbox and turns off 19.01.05 # yeah, stick your usb cable in and put on the .rockbox folder 19.01.07 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 19.01.18 # It won't stay on 19.04.22 # put the cable in before you turn it on 19.04.30 # it should go into bootloader usb or soemthing 19.05.52 # it was trying to load the bootloader for rockbox 19.06.11 # I'm gonna do recovery mode with clean fw 19.08.28 Quit PaulJam (".") 19.10.02 Quit KongK ("Leaving.") 19.11.30 # should I risk trying this install again? 19.11.56 # why wouldnt you 19.13.53 Join webguest72 [0] (i=42195f1c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-59b910b8e0d482d8) 19.15.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.34 # okay it's installed 19.15.34 Quit webguest72 (Client Quit) 19.16.31 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.18.09 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.18.28 # Is there a way to change what firmware boots first? 19.22.46 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 19.22.46 Quit nobutada55 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.23.05 Quit Guile`` ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 19.23.24 Join nobutada55 [0] (n=cameron3@pool-151-199-53-91.bos.east.verizon.net) 19.28.46 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.29.10 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.31.11 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD63CB.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.33.21 Join Joely [0] (n=eliveuse@adsl-70-131-106-59.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 19.35.26 Quit rift_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.37.54 Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.38.05 Join atsea- [0] (i=root@gateway/tor/x-a6db0e7c4eb1aa12) 19.38.46 Quit nobutada55 () 19.42.40 Part linuxstb ("Leaving") 19.42.53 Part maffe 19.49.11 # jhMikeS: Wow, that was a quick fix :) 19.49.34 # Going to try it now... 20.07.44 # amiconn: on hwcodec it should probably check the number again in case the recording directory was changed. for swcodec it always rechecks since a format change or dir change will require a number reset. 20.08.26 # It's working nicely... 20.08.37 # on which player? 20.08.40 # On hdd units I never change the recording dir 20.08.43 # H180 20.10.55 # I'll now try the core lock patch on mini g1 w/o cpu scaling 20.11.14 # get the one off the page, the link posted had the bug 20.11.25 # yes I remember 20.18.45 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.21.22 # jhMikeS: Anything special I should check with the core locking patch? 20.21.45 # if it gets past the splash, mpegplayer for sure 20.21.54 # ok 20.21.55 Quit bluey- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.22.05 # mpegplayer is nasty on greyscale ipods though 20.22.27 # so long as it keeps running :) 20.22.46 # ...because audio stutters like hell (libmad can't keep up b/c the greyscale lib is eating a lot of cpu) 20.24.18 # This is only because we don't know how to handle the pp's lcd controller interface properly... another thing I wanted to find out by disassembling... 20.24.23 # getting stuck at the splash seems to mean the cores are both permanently asleep. the very first patch actually run up to the mpegplayer test and the only difference was constantly setting cpsr |= 0x40 20.24.33 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.25.04 # or 0x80 or whatever to disable IRQs (don't remember which bit) :P 20.25.52 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 20.26.54 # Bit 7 disables IRQ 20.26.57 # Bit 6 is FIQ 20.27.37 # But why would disabling IRQs make it work? I'd expect the opposite... 20.28.10 # just turning them off when switching tasks and reenabling them 20.29.01 # But that's not needed on other PPs... so why the 5020? 20.29.12 # Btw, is the patch tested on PP5002 already? 20.29.28 # so the first did that to prevent the core that owns the lock from having it's own interrupt try to lock the core lock again 20.29.54 # no, it's not and I can't without a cable 20.31.09 # the patch you're trying removes interrupt interaction with the scheduler entirely and a system queue takes posts from interrupt handlers, then they're dispatch to the destination queue on the next task switch 20.31.22 # The ipod connector is proprietary, but there's one good thing: all ipods use the same connector 20.31.48 # I also have just one cable here, but 3 ipods... 20.33.01 # * GodEater_ has about 4 cables, one of which is a firewire one 20.33.20 # damn, I can't find any m5 40gig available for sale 20.33.46 # jhMikeS: It hangs at the splash... 20.34.05 # There are also some garbage pixels on the screen 20.34.25 Quit ompaul (Remote closed the connection) 20.34.28 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966CAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.34.53 # same ol, same ol 20.35.53 # I'm wondering if explicitly making sure interrupts for both cores are enabled just before sleeping would change things...hrm 20.35.55 # Garbage pixels vary between boot attempts 20.36.26 # Backlight stays on 20.37.04 Join CCCP [0] (i=d117abde@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5f75aa42ee7b969b) 20.37.16 # with no interrupts running I imagine it would :) ... I think it's just snoozing ... 'till I determine otherwise 20.38.01 # lostlogic: the only store I found that sales M5s at all was this one: http://stores.ebay.de/MP3-DIRECT - but only seen 20GB ones and the M5L (which is also 20 gig) 20.38.10 # I need some help with Rockbox. 20.38.29 # I am wondering how to synch. I tried using WMP 20.38.52 # CCCP: rockbox is just drag and drop 20.39.07 # How do I delete? 20.39.09 # this is the point where things get too tedious to ask someone to test every possible idea where I could check in minutes what would take all day to go through 20.39.24 # CCCP: most keyboards have a DEL key ;) 20.39.49 # I am wondering how to delete files from the player. 20.39.54 # in rockbox, select the file/dir and go to the conext menu 20.40.02 # *context 20.40.07 # Thanks for the help. 20.40.23 Quit CCCP (Client Quit) 20.41.15 # * petur congratulates austriancoder on his first packet 20.43.14 # * jhMikeS thinks autriancoder must have removed all /me's code and _then_ it received a packet :P 20.43.15 # jhMikeS: I don't think it's just sleeping forever. The garbage pixels meanm something is running a wrong path... 20.43.55 # * petur is still trying to receive his first packet :( 20.44.46 # e200 runs all day with it as did one with a 5021 or 5022 20.45.31 # Is there something that is in iram for pp5021+ but not for pp5020? 20.46.14 # not that I"m aware of and nothing that patch adds 20.46.18 # pp5020 has less iram, and dram will cause cache inconsistencies between the cores 20.46.52 # any shared data is in IRAM 20.47.32 # but you said that player is pretty finicky anyway so something might be hiding out 20.48.19 # It's both obvious and known that we're doing something wrong on pp5020 20.48.30 # pixelma: tanks 20.48.38 Join Sp` [0] (n=seen@102-162.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.48.40 Nick Sp` is now known as dk2 (n=seen@102-162.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.49.05 # The "only" question is _what_ 20.49.28 # hi all 20.49.58 # does somebody have this file on his harddrive rockbox-jbuild-20060726-ipodvideo.zip 20.50.05 # it's because the link is dead at the moment.. 20.50.14 # ? :-) 20.50.36 # * amiconn doubts that someone in here has that 20.50.54 # (1) it's almost 11 months old (2) it's an unsupported build 20.51.25 # is that from before the menu change? 20.51.45 # puhh i don't know i have my ipod for 2 days :-) 20.52.12 # dk2: use more recent version... 20.52.43 # so how to explain the difference when always changing cpsr? and how a simple locking mechanism would change things so radically? so odd. 20.52.46 # could you tell me a good one? :) 20.53.07 # i have the ipod video 30gb 20.53.07 # why don't you run the current official build? 20.53.31 # because i had trouble with the themes... 20.54.07 # someone with Linux and the ability to build and test rbutil here ?? 20.54.23 # i want to use the jclix theme 20.54.30 # * petur curses the fact that there are themes on rockbox.org that require unsupported builds 20.54.37 # * Domonoky_ reworked the device detection of rbutl.. 20.55.12 # dk2: do you know which patches are required for that theme? 20.55.28 # pixelma: what thickness is the M5 20's drive? 5mm? 20.55.33 # maybe you can find some builds in the 'unsupported builds' forum which use the same patches 20.55.53 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=36.0 20.58.00 # lostlogic: it's a single platter, that's all I know, the "normal" M5 is thinner than the M5L (more info here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart#Cowon_units) 20.58.21 # lostlogic: Yes, standard single platter 1.8" 20.59.02 # thx for help petur 20.59.14 # Domonoky_: yes 20.59.37 # just lookin' if I read this correctly, toshiba makes a mk4007gal which could be used in that configuration 20.59.45 # http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=HardDrivesOpticalDrives/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MK4007GAL 21.00.32 # yes, think so too 21.00.50 # obo: would be nice if you test the detection of the device on linux.. :-) 21.00.51 # lostlogic: as with all those drives, check that you can actually buy them ;) 21.01.03 # petur: looks like it's available at least in the UK :-P 21.01.22 # Domonoky_: I could give it a try, what needs to be build? 21.01.24 # it would also be good if someone could test on Mac.. linuxstb ?? 21.01.37 # rbutil.. 21.01.54 # lostlogic: The MK4007GAL would definitely fit 21.02.15 # petur: it needs wx2.8 to build rbutil... 21.02.37 # Domonoky_: reallife interrupt, back in 30 21.02.53 # petur: int ack :-) 21.03.14 # Domonoky_: fails to build here: http://www.pastebin.ca/584403 21.03.58 # obo: ups.. :-) 21.05.29 # obo: please try again, i commited a fix :-) 21.06.23 # Domonoky_: still has the error at autodetection.cpp:210 21.06.49 # lostlogic: did you see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 21.07.03 # arg.. i should learn to read.. :-/ 21.07.51 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.09.14 # markun: this site is missing some cowon info... *asking myself what "ins" are* ;) 21.09.16 # obo: and again please.. 21.09.38 # pixelma: it's a wiki.. :) 21.09.38 # i hope its working now.. or will stop coding for today.. :-/ 21.09.39 # markun: that just changed now... 21.09.42 # ok 21.10.54 # Domonoky_: [INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - /dev/sde 21.11.04 # pixelma: do you think the tables should be sorted by thickness? 21.11.09 # is that what you're after? 21.11.33 # obo: ah you have an ipod, so it does a shortcut :-) 21.11.53 # ah, oops 21.12.04 # markun: So the gigabeat X series also has ZIF? 21.12.08 # yes 21.12.10 # because for ipods and sansa we have the patchers.. 21.12.36 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-104-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.12.39 # obo: but thanxs, we killed a bad issue at least :-) 21.12.50 # amiconn: ah, I see where I've forgotten that.. 21.12.52 # yup, at least it will compile now :) 21.13.25 # markun: I think sorting by device (as is) is fine - especially since that is in the first column 21.13.55 # markun: It's on the page... I just thought that only the ipod video used zif 21.14.12 # But then the gigabeat X is a rare beast iirc... 21.14.19 # or do you mean the table with the possible replacements ? 21.14.26 # well, it's a smaller lighter F with a bigger screen 21.14.45 # and no button leds 21.14.57 # * amiconn wonders why so many manufacturers forget to add a radio... 21.15.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.15.18 # Of course it would be even better to have a dab tuner 21.15.38 # yes, I would prefer a DAB tuner indeed 21.15.50 # yo 21.16.18 # Is there _any_ DAP with a DAB tuner? 21.16.30 # amiconn: but the Gigabeat S includes a radio 21.16.49 # * amiconn wonders what the heck the manufacturers are doing... 21.17.11 # amiconn: http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/09/first_dab_radio.html 21.17.14 # I believe linuxstb once mentioned a dap with DAB 21.17.38 # There's this goal in europe to have radio and tv broadcast fully digital by the end of 2010... not very much time left 21.18.13 # amiconn: http://www.mpio.com/product/productview_pd100.html 21.18.57 # Hmm, only small-capacity flash players 21.21.23 # Domonoky_: rfi 21.21.56 # petur: which player(s) do you have ? 21.21.58 # amiconn: we should build one :) 21.22.07 # h380 21.22.24 # petur: thats good, would be nice if you could test rbutil :-) 21.23.09 # it should now detect your player (if you click on the button) (but only if you have already rockbox installed) :-) 21.23.55 # Domonoky_: err... how do you build rbutil... any links? 21.24.34 # petur: you must have wxwidgets 2.8 installed. the you can you "make" in the rbutil dir.. 21.25.50 # Hmm. Albrecht makes several dab/mp3 devices: http://www.albrecht-online.de/dab/dabuebersicht.php3 (german) 21.26.12 # The DR306 has an sd/mmc slot supporting up to 2GB 21.28.31 Join EZ64 [0] (n=warzcoke@87-194-194-50.bethere.co.uk) 21.28.32 # ey all 21.28.34 # hey all 21.28.36 # anyone therE? 21.29.06 # no 21.29.10 # ^&^ 21.29.15 # anyone got rock the box installed? 21.29.17 # 110 bots 21.29.21 # no 21.29.32 # ive got it on my video 30gb ipod 21.29.37 # * petur hands prize for stupid questions 21.29.41 # and want to use doom 95 and others on therE? 21.29.59 # we should really remove doom :-) 21.30.15 # so can it be done with this kernal? 21.30.35 # * scorche facepalms 21.30.44 # EZ64: read the webpage or the manual or the wiki... 21.30.51 # EZ64: sorry, I think the people in here know very little about Doom 21.30.52 # nothign on there 21.31.00 # i was tlaking abotu rock the box 21.31.04 # this is the irc 21.31.21 # it is explained in the manual 21.31.41 # thanks for the help douches 21.31.43 # EZ64: does it give you an error when you try to use doom 95? 21.31.47 # why are you even in this irc? 21.31.51 Part EZ64 21.32.07 # yes, why.. 21.32.32 # well, we could have been a bit friendlier 21.32.57 # he would have reacted the same way when we told him to read the manual 21.33.23 # still, I wouldn't have minded holding his hand a little 21.33.49 # * scorche just facepalmed....which most people of that sort dont understand 21.34.08 # he was of the doom playing sort? 21.34.25 # he was of the rock the box sort 21.35.40 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.39.06 Join egandt [0] (i=d1d45e1f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f7ee1326bfa5c6ea) 21.39.26 # Hello I have a problem with bookmarks, I can not create one 21.39.32 Quit dk2 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.39.45 # Domonoky_: I'm not managing to install wxwidgets. the "curl ..." step gives an error here (no writable keyring found) 21.40.13 # following http://www.wxwidgets.org/downloads/ to install on Feisty 21.41.03 # petur: try without the keys.. 21.41.46 # egandt: are you using the database? 21.41.53 # I did, gives an error about signatures (maybe it did install - must check) 21.42.07 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.42.09 # no just a playlist from a filesystem directory 21.42.31 # I think that perhaps I need a directory in which to create the bookmakr, but I'm not sure 21.43.10 # The code seems to indecate that bookmarks are created in a directory, but I do not know where this directory is? 21.43.53 # egandt: the are created in the directory above the current one 21.44.22 # so then if I just create one for a playlist since playlists are store in /playlists then it should be created in / 21.44.39 # hm, not sure what happens if you play from a playlist 21.45.07 # ok, thanks, its weird as it worked previously 21.45.26 # petur: if it doesnt work, dont worry, others will test rbutil :-) 21.46.04 # * petur swears a bit at the user-unfriendlyness of linux 21.47.01 # somehow most distros dont seem to like wx .. :-/ 21.47.08 # egandt: maybe ask again here later when there are people who know 21.47.27 # I also had to install curl, Bagder will be happy ;) 21.48.02 # :-) 21.51.48 Quit HellDragon (Nick collision from services.) 21.52.22 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 21.53.45 # oh wow, looking up the wxwidgets install error I get gives 5 links, most in Italian 21.54.13 Quit bluey- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.55.38 # seems it has to do with 64bit, but I run a normal x86 ubuntu :( 21.55.44 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-10324.bb.online.no) 21.56.02 # I got part of it working, since bookmarks are stored in the real question is how to set where playlists are created since it should be /playlists and not / by default 21.56.37 # Thanks, 21.56.38 # ERIC 21.58.37 # egandt: where the playlist are stored, depends on where and how there are created.. 21.58.47 Join alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 21.59.24 # But rockbox failing to bookmark when the playlist is stored in the root sounds like a bug 21.59.51 # For dynamic directory playlists it already handles this case 21.59.57 # Hmm, or maybe not? 22.00.09 # * amiconn might confuse this w/ playlist creation 22.00.35 # playlist creation handels this.. ie the root.m3u.. 22.00.51 # but the bookmark code, i dont know... 22.01.22 # Me neither 22.01.46 # * amiconn uses bookmarks once a year or so 22.02.15 # ...and virtually never in conjunction with a file based playlist 22.02.44 # * markun uses it for audiobooks 22.03.09 # * amiconn has no audio books 22.03.12 # (including ebooks read with eSpeak :) 22.03.36 Join AceNik_ [0] (n=AceNik@203.145.159.42) 22.03.37 # there is bookmark code for this case, but there could be bugs.. 22.04.45 # hey guys what does this update do ? "Allow forward references of menus in tagnavi.config." does this mean i can "point a particular directory" in database view? 22.06.19 Join low_light [0] (i=c730180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-55827bf5fee925bf) 22.07.05 # AceNik_: it probably means you can refer to items which are further down the tagnavi file (but I don't know how to use tagnavi.config) 22.07.12 Join webguest81 [0] (i=c82dae09@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-47154600a220c5f0) 22.07.47 # markun : is it possible to point a menu on the player in the tagnavi.config please gimme the structure if you know 22.08.14 # "I don't know how to use tagnavi.config" 22.08.35 # markun: ok thanks 22.08.35 Quit egandt ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.10.03 Quit webguest81 (Client Quit) 22.10.22 Join webguest53 [0] (i=c82dae09@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-11d4fd0edaeb5824) 22.10.39 # Domonoky_: I solved the issue (yuck), what should I apt-get to install? There's so much wxwidgets files 22.11.24 # anyone her kno how to point a directory in the database view? 22.12.08 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 22.12.44 # AceNik_: that is not yet possible to do 22.12.49 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 22.12.50 # hello, I would like to contribute a file (FMpresets) and I don't have write permission to do it, my TWiki username is GermanGatica 22.13.14 # slasheri: ok ? but any idea where to start if i want to try ? 22.13.17 # petur: if i could remember it... hm.. 22.13.31 # AceNik_: check the apps/tagtree.c code 22.13.34 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.13.54 Part AceNik_ 22.14.24 # Domonoky_: nm, found it in our wiki 22.16.49 # petur: ah .. thats new.. 22.17.39 # hmmm still doesn't buidl, complains about wx-config not found 22.17.45 # *build 22.18.08 # hm, apt-get should have installed it.. 22.18.25 # what happens if you type wx-config in the console ? 22.19.16 # it tells me where tio get it :) 22.19.38 # I'm adding some stuff to the wiki for later ubuntu devs... 22.19.53 # wx-config is used by the make file to find the wx headers and libs.. 22.20.04 # petur: thats good.. 22.20.16 Join XbooX [0] (n=XbooX04@206.186.45.240) 22.26.35 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 22.26.46 Part kaaloo 22.27.57 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 22.28.58 # Does anyone know how to revert to the default Display settings? changing the icons made the icons and text disapear. iPod 80GB 22.29.53 # XbooX: if you switch on hold directly after boot, all settings will be cleared.. 22.30.24 # or you could edit the config.cfg file on the PC with a texteditor.. 22.30.46 # webguest53: promise not to spam? ;) 22.31.11 # webguest53: but you should be able to edit the wiki now 22.31.11 # yes, i promise 22.31.29 # :) 22.31.44 # thank you very much 22.31.53 # * petur runs rbutil 22.32.15 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 22.32.36 # * Domonoky_ awaits peturs comments :-) 22.32.59 # * petur does svn update to get the correct version ;) 22.33.16 # Domonoky_ i tried hold but that didnt seem to do anything 22.34.02 # Bagder: ping. 22.34.08 # XbooX: if done right it should display a "cleared" splash.. 22.34.12 # yes? 22.34.39 # XbooX: you switch the hold switch to late, i think.. 22.34.41 # Bagder: did the rsync download issue happen aga in? 22.34.54 # lemme check... 22.35.06 # Domonoky_: im editing the config.cfg 22.35.10 # Domonoky_: iriver H320,H340 detected 22.35.42 # petur: nice.. :-) 22.35.56 # do you know what the default values are? 22.36.37 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.36.47 # dionoea: yes it did, this morning several hours 22.36.48 # Domonoky_: could you also detect the disk size to display H380? 22.36.59 # Domonoky_: autodetection.h:47:1: warning: "/*" within comment 22.37.39 # Bagder: but you have the file list this time ? (so we can try to see what's happening) 22.37.43 # petur: thanx will fix, with the next bigger commit :-) its not a problem.. 22.38.23 # markun: i just check the .rockbox/rockbox-info.txt file.. 22.38.28 # Domonoky_: browsing themes does a lot of anoying window flashing 22.38.39 # dionoea: I thought I would but I don't see any such (it was Bjorn who changed that) 22.38.46 # erf 22.38.53 # petur: yeah, but it works :-) 22.38.57 # yeah :-/ 22.39.09 # I'll enable it on my side so we get it tomorrow 22.39.25 # goodie 22.39.46 # could it be a timezone issue ? like timestamps don't match because of that 22.39.47 Part webguest53 22.39.57 # * Domonoky_ will now take a look at bacon_boys patch for nicer buttons in rbutil :-) 22.40.26 # dionoea: hang on, I think I was wrong just now... 22.42.40 # yeah I was, false alarm 22.42.49 # your rsync is doing fine 22.43.02 # I didn't properly align the sizes with the hosts 22.43.06 # ah, cool :) 22.43.17 # * dionoea can now enjoy a nice week end 22.44.27 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 22.44.31 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 22.46.52 Part kaaloo 22.52.58 Part maffe 22.55.51 Quit desowin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.57.45 Join thebean69 [0] (n=thebean6@c-67-190-72-193.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 22.59.28 Quit petur ("plop") 22.59.36 # how stable is the current svn version of the iriver h120/140 bootloder? 23.00.06 # i want to test it out, but I don't want to brick my player 23.00.22 # thats not recommended.. :-) 23.00.51 # if you screw up, you would need a BDM device to recover.. or you need LinusN :-) 23.01.16 # I found some bugs with 7-pre3 and want to see if they got fixed before I submit a bug report 23.01.34 # what's LinusN? 23.01.43 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3060.gwdg.de) 23.01.49 # i think the official version is 6 ? 23.02.21 # but with 7-pre3 you can totally eliminate the factory firmware 23.02.24 # LinusN is a person, one of the founders of rockbox, and he has a bdm... :-) 23.02.33 # I see :) 23.02.48 # ah, thats the version with flash support ? 23.02.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.02.55 # yep 23.03.05 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF61BD.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.03.05 # i think Slasheri is the person for this :-) 23.03.21 # 2 images - one boots directly from ROM and one is loaded into RAM first 23.03.28 # hes "Mr. Flasherei" :-) 23.03.34 # hes = he is 23.03.38 # thebean69: i don't think the svn version is stable, it had some serious issued reported some time ago.. 23.03.51 # LinusN should try it first 23.04.08 # I won't risk it then. I like mine too much 23.04.17 # even i am afraid of trying that because i don't have a bdm either :) 23.04.41 # I do use multiple types at work, though. Maybe one of them would work 23.04.46 # the one that is in the iriver boot flashing or something article worked completely fine before, but when i recently updated, i can't set default boot option anymore 23.04.50 # which is a bit annoying :p 23.04.50 # types of BDMs 23.04.52 # and i already bricked my iriver once while developing the bootloader, fortunately it got fixed then :) 23.05.14 Quit low_light ("CGI:IRC") 23.05.35 # Xerion: do you have the latest version of rockbox? 23.05.44 # and what do you mean that you cannot set it? 23.05.46 # Xerion - I saw that bug too. It got fixed in the latest svn version of rockbox 23.05.57 # well it's from a week ago or so 23.06.02 # not quite sure 23.06.05 # something to do with the display loops getting optimized away 23.06.07 # ah, then you need to update 23.06.16 # and i hadn't updated for quite a while before that :p 23.06.25 # ok, i will then soon :p 23.06.41 # what kind of BDM would I need? 23.07.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBDM 23.08.01 # ahh 23.08.39 # I use a wiggler BDM at work, but it only has 10 pins or so 23.09.22 # wigglers can sometimes get connected using a varying set of pins 23.09.34 # using different connectors 23.09.55 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 23.12.57 Join HellDragon [0] (i=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 23.13.05 # does anyone here know if the text bug for the iriver remote got fixed in the latest bootloader? 23.13.19 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 23.13.45 # the 7-pre3 version's boot menu repeats itself (on the remote, that is) 23.14.39 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 23.15.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.17.16 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p54BD2C55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.17.39 # Good evening :) 23.17.50 # hello 23.18.26 # DerPapst, do you know anything about the iriver 120/140 bootloader? 23.18.53 Quit H3g3m0n (No route to host) 23.21.05 # sorry... only iPod ones 23.25.20 Part maffe 23.28.17 # hi, i noticed something srange with the filetypecolours. when you don't use a backdrop then the text of the selected item is drawn in the custom colour instead of the backgroundcolour and if the ustom colour is only slightly different from the foregroundcolour it is hard to read. 23.28.31 # i was wondering if this is a bug or intended 23.30.08 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-6371bc2911dd6e40) 23.30.45 # GodEater_: do you use the software EQ? 23.31.17 # DerPapst: do we know the 5.5g has a different battery? I was running under the belief it didn't. 23.33.57 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@81.168.42.222) 23.34.12 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 23.34.15 # * Domonoky_ thinks about embedding png images into rbutil.. would it be bad to include *.cpp files with a struct with the data in it ? ( generated of course) 23.35.24 # because normally you shouldnt include .cpp files.. but xpm isnt better.. 23.36.02 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.36.36 # Do you mean #include them, or link them? 23.37.01 # #include them.. 23.37.34 # Why not just compile and link them? 23.37.45 # perhaps i should modify the generator to also generate .h files.. 23.38.25 # then i could compile them seperatly.. 23.39.38 Join Nic0_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 23.39.38 Join ansivirus [0] (n=ansiviru@adsl-76-225-180-38.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 23.42.51 Join ment [0] (i=thement@ibawizard.net) 23.43.22 # hi 23.44.15 # I have some problem with my ipod mini (2nd), I installed rockbox on it about 3 months ago 23.44.18 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-119-114-203.cpe.cableone.net) 23.44.59 # and yesterday when i turned it on it freezed in the apple screen, reset didn't help 23.45.29 # ment: barring a hardware failure Reset (Menu + Select) will always work if done properly. 23.45.49 Quit Nic0_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.47.25 # when I press menu + select for ~6secs it resets, but then it freezes in apple screen again 23.47.42 Quit Febs ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 23.48.56 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 23.48.59 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 23.49.16 # and connected to usb it infinitely loops in power on -> apple screen -> backlight on -> power off 23.49.45 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 23.51.00 Join Nic0_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 23.51.21 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 23.51.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp239-157.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.51.51 # ment: can you force it into disk mode by holding play+select immediately when it boots after resetting? 23.53.36 # can you now (could you ever) hear the microdrive spin? 23.53.43 # wow, this works 23.53.55 # PaulJam: thanks 23.54.15 # Soap: flash based 23.54.29 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.54.34 # you swapped out the MD in your mini? 23.56.52 Join karim_ [0] (n=karim@85.69.166.179) 23.58.13 # soap: ah, sorry, i thought that ipod mini is flash based 23.58.55 # if you are able to mount the mini while in disk mode, and manipulate files on it, my theory of a dying microdrive is weak.