--- Log for 30.06.107 Server: kubrick.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 12 hours ago 00.00.07 # Took me a while to find out.... 00.00.27 # Btw, this game works on nearly every js capable browser 00.00.32 # well ... nobody uses opera6 anymore i guess 00.01.37 # IE 4 and up, Nescape 3, 4, Mozilla/Firefox and derivates, Opera 6 (maybe lower versions as well, untested), AWeb, Konqueror 00.03.29 # haha, this is awesome http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/9505/ 00.04.02 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.04.16 # Then only browsers I couldn't make it work in are Voyager (Amiga), IBrowse (Amiga), Hotjava and Espial Escape 00.04.33 # Hotjava is a very buggy browser anyway, lots of fun there with css 00.07.45 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.09.02 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 00.09.43 # amiconn: wow... these are some cool minesweeper versions :-D 00.09.58 # :) 00.10.18 # The whole game logic is a single 30KB javascript 00.10.56 # nice :D wanna port it ro rockbox :P 00.13.48 # nice script :) 00.16.21 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@unaffiliated/chrisjs169) 00.16.47 Part maffe 00.16.55 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 00.18.06 # Can someone test something for me? 00.18.23 # (Possible bug with Sansa) 00.19.10 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.19.44 Part maffe 00.27.46 Join webguest24 [0] (i=42b1a687@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e25069e0395e9dd) 00.28.19 Part chrisjs169 00.28.44 # What is the working state of nano second gen. i need to kill the apple os 00.29.02 # apple os 1 - rockbox 0 for the time being 00.29.14 # ha ha ha very funaye 00.29.21 # basically the nano 2 is completely different hardware 00.29.31 # does rock box wrok at all for the nano second gen?? 00.29.36 # and better firmware encryption afaik 00.29.46 # so no one knows how to run custom code on it yet 00.29.53 # so rockbox doesn't work 00.30.11 # do you know of any software that will work on the 2nd gen?? 00.30.24 # none other then the apple os 00.30.46 # there's a thread in the new ports section of the rockbox forums if you need more details 00.31.29 Join krazykit [0] (n=krazykit@gct09-56.gctel.net) 00.35.05 Quit webguest24 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.40.09 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 00.41.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 00.41.18 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.48.38 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.49.09 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.51.03 # * amiconn is experimenting with the PP clock settings 00.56.24 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.03.01 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.04.03 Quit el_4_jinete ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 01.09.14 Quit MySic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.16.05 Quit PaulJam (".") 01.16.45 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 01.21.47 Join mud-rb [0] (n=jas6180@c-71-202-129-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.26.58 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.41.42 Nick Caliban_ is now known as Caliban (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 01.43.07 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 01.43.28 # amiconn: anything new? 01.45.09 # oops, bbl 01.48.01 Quit matsl_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.48.38 Join bdgraue_ [0] (n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-109-168.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 01.49.46 Part Llorean 01.50.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.59.38 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-188-93.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 02.00.05 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 02.04.14 Quit bdgraue (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.04.59 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.20.47 Quit obo ("bye") 02.28.54 Part pixelma 02.31.03 # good night at all :) 02.31.04 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 02.36.17 Quit Guile` ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 02.37.00 Quit bdgraue_ (Remote closed the connection) 02.38.09 Quit entheh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.43.28 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.43.39 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-140-107.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.44.52 Join CoolCubix [0] (n=coolcubi@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-17-70.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 02.55.11 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 03.02.51 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.05.04 Quit daurnimator ("Cyas later...") 03.07.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15812.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.09.13 Nick bushblows is now known as swolbhsub (n=bushblow@unaffiliated/bushblows) 03.15.37 Join webguest89 [0] (i=4b0c9074@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-68b33d4bc63a1e32) 03.16.20 # hey guys... i have a sansa e260 with rb on it and a plugin crashed... how do i reboot the thing without opening it up to take out the battery? 03.16.39 # hold power for 15 seconds 03.17.16 # cool thanks... (btw i've only used the software for less than a day now) but so far it seems pretty cool 03.17.38 # np 03.20.20 Quit webguest89 (Client Quit) 03.38.02 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.48.34 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 03.50.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.58 Join HellDragon_ [0] (i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.54.16 Quit HellDragon (Nick collision from services.) 03.54.22 Nick HellDragon_ is now known as HellDragon (i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.58.49 Join bizzy [0] (n=battle@58.174.226.173) 03.59.25 # hey all 03.59.49 # anyone online? 04.00.12 # sorry, we're all bizzy 04.00.33 # haha 04.00.36 # pretty funny 04.00.56 # i have a quick question 04.02.37 # * mud-rb is eagerly waiting 04.02.44 # anyone able to help - I have Gigabeat S30 and I can't find the CD that came with it - so I can't even see it on my computer - anyone know where to find it? 04.03.19 Join DarthShrine [0] (n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine) 04.04.27 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.05.08 # also - am i able to replace the battery with a longer lasting one? 04.06.54 # ? 04.07.45 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 04.08.30 Part Llorean 04.10.38 # mud-rb? 04.11.21 # i have no idea, and i'm not willing to go look it up 04.13.22 # ok - do you know anywhere i could find out if i can replace the battery? 04.13.32 # http://www.google.com 04.13.42 Part maffe 04.14.29 # haha thanks 04.16.51 Part bizzy 04.18.46 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 04.21.26 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.25.38 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 04.47.03 Quit HellDragon (Nick collision from services.) 04.47.27 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 04.48.36 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15812.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.57.52 Quit chrisjs169 (Excess Flood) 04.58.09 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-140-107.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.58.46 Quit chrisjs169 (K-lined) 04.59.02 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-140-107.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.59.37 Quit chrisjs169 (K-lined) 04.59.52 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-140-107.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.04.33 Quit chrisjs169 (K-lined) 05.04.51 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-140-107.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.07.39 Quit mud-rb (Remote closed the connection) 05.10.09 Join relaxed [0] (n=relaxed@unaffiliated/relaxed) 05.20.42 Quit CoolCubix ("It's a me, Mario !!") 05.21.37 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-233-219.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 05.41.54 Join GrantinatorPlus [0] (i=cfd82fda@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-90a42ca6de68a00c) 05.43.32 # Hey gang, I'm totally new to irc. do I just submit my questions here? 05.43.56 Quit GrantinatorPlus (Client Quit) 05.46.15 # yep 05.46.30 # if someone knows the answer they'll let you know.... 05.50.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.52.38 # or not... 06.14.12 # more than likely :) 06.16.47 Join w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 06.16.58 # y0 06.16.58 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181101004.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.17.17 # I tried using EvilG's latest build on my newly purchased apple 5thgen 80GB ipod 06.17.39 # it boots goes to menu but I cannot select anything...any suggestions? 06.18.30 # those builds are called unsupported builds for a reason... 06.18.50 Quit xNibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.19.26 # ha yeah.... 06.19.31 # fuck. 06.19.35 # wanted to get this album art working 06.20.00 # ask in his thread in the unsupported builds forum 06.20.16 # k. 06.25.13 Join t0dk0n [0] (n=todkon@adsl-70-132-3-160.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 06.26.03 # Does the rockbox.ipod still go in the root directory of the ipod? or does it now go into the .rockbox on the ipod and I need a new bootloader update? 06.26.17 # I haven't updated for a few months 06.26.18 # lol 06.27.57 # it now resides in the .rockbox folder 06.28.08 # okie dokie 06.28.17 # Do I need a new boot loader though? 06.28.31 # likely 06.29.08 # alright 06.29.19 # well, I'll see what happens first without updating it 06.29.20 # thanks 06.29.45 # well, it will likely work, but you will get data abort errors at times 06.30.25 # ahh 06.30.44 # I updated the boot loader like 2/3 months ago 06.30.53 # does the Major Changes page update itself or something? :P 06.38.56 # has there been any battery life improvements with the ipod build? 06.39.57 # slightly, but not much 06.40.15 # ahh 06.40.16 # there really wont be till we figure out what is draining it all 06.40.41 # yeah 06.40.50 # oh well, I'm thinking of getting a zen vision w 06.41.04 # no rockbox there 06.41.08 # I love rockbox though 06.41.10 # lol yeah, I know 06.41.24 # but their propriety firmware is nice enough to make up for it 06.41.27 # sort of 06.41.55 # if you think so...i dont think anything can really compare to something that you can tweak to your own liking 06.42.28 # which is why I said sort of :P 06.43.13 # but perhaps someone in the future will make rockbox builds for the creative lines 06.45.36 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 06.47.03 Part t0dk0n 06.49.53 Join webguest35 [0] (i=cfd82fda@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e5eb9a29037d1199) 06.52.26 Quit webguest35 (Client Quit) 06.57.34 Quit netmasta10bt ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 07.26.01 Join mud-rb [0] (n=jas6180@c-71-202-129-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 07.43.23 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@host.91-92-172-170.airbites.bg) 07.49.22 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 07.49.55 # * linuxstb_ looks around for saratoga 07.50.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.03.19 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B179A5.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.18.54 Quit mud-rb ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 08.21.30 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.34.39 Quit toffe82 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 08.35.03 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-233-219.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 08.35.07 Quit toffe82 (Client Quit) 08.36.25 # what's up with the tracker? 08.36.58 # nevermind 08.37.04 # was entering the wrong username 08.37.18 Quit DarthShrine (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.07.02 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 09.08.26 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@h237.231.143.24.cable.snbr.sanbrunocable.com) 09.13.59 Quit MonkeyTamer ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 09.24.22 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.30.22 Join kretender [0] (n=Kaspar@44.72.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 09.32.42 # whoa 09.33.16 # jhMikeS: The sd card patch decreased binsize by 10KB for sansa?!? 09.38.31 # well it is micro sd ;) 09.40.49 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82.43.210.209) 09.41.31 # <]RowaN[> guys where can i find info on that recent commit that allows different lines of text to be different colours? i cant see anything on the customWPS page 09.42.00 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 09.42.13 Part kaaloo 09.50.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.55.58 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.59.57 # ]RowaN[: I don't think it's documented yet, but I remember a forum thread about it. 10.00.50 # amiconn: Any progress with the PP CPU clocking? 10.01.36 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964AF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.02.23 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.03.27 # ]RowaN[: and it's not a feature for the wps yet 10.05.14 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@h218n1fls35o293.telia.com) 10.05.52 # <]RowaN[> oh, where is it used, menus? 10.07.24 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 10.07.51 # yes - a bit like the icons. You can specify different colours for different filesize but I don't know more (and how to) myself 10.08.06 # s/filesize/filetypes 10.08.19 # what does gcc produce if you assign structs to each other (ie not doing a memcpy)? 10.08.59 # It either uses memcpy, or some specialised block copy functions, or inlined block copy 10.09.13 # Depending on struct size, optimisation level, and cpu arch 10.09.26 # ok 10.10.47 # <]RowaN[> has anyone looked into finding a lcd flip mode for sansa lcd controller? 10.11.15 # ]RowaN[: I'm sorry - my statement wasn't clear. It's not used in the menus but in the filebrowser I then.... 10.11.56 # actually, what i'd really like to ask, is has anyone found an lcd mirror mode for any of the lcd controllers? 10.13.45 # nobody? who wouldn't like to read their filenames and id3 tags in a mirrored state? 10.13.58 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.15.05 # evening all 10.15.24 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 10.15.35 # mornin' 10.15.56 # <]RowaN[> well, if you want people to be able to read your WPS in their rear view mirror then mirror mode would be useful. but im just talking about lcd flip - coz i have my sansa round my next and when i look down at the screenwps its obviously upside down 10.16.34 # jhMikeS: nice work :) 10.16.36 # midkay: There is nothing special to find. 10.16.50 # ]RowaN[: now there's a truly practical reason for an lcd mirror mode. and i think a lot more people find themselves reading their displays through mirrors rather than upside-down, so sorry, i think mirror mode will take priority over flip. 10.17.08 # All LCD controllers we have datasheets for can mirror horizontally and vertically. Flip is nothing else than both combined 10.17.39 # midkay: when a device is in your pocket, flip is handy 10.17.43 # why doesn't rockbox have a mirror mode then. 10.17.54 # scorche: unfortunately, pocketed devices are far more rare than mirror-viewed devices. 10.18.01 # >_> 10.18.11 # so i think we need a mirror mode immediately. 10.18.19 # then code it 10.18.30 # <]RowaN[> some rockbox ports do? i think i remember it on my old iriver h120 i *think* 10.18.36 # * petur has yet to see any practical use for mirror mode 10.18.43 # scorche: you code it. 10.18.48 # oh come on. mirror viewing. 10.18.50 # it's the future! 10.18.51 # midkay: i am not the one that wants it 10.19.09 # scorche: not everybody who wants something codes it. and not everybody who codes something wants it. 10.19.22 # * petur still not sees it - no real arguments given 10.19.27 # * pixelma wonders what midkay drank 10.19.48 # haha. 10.19.51 # <]RowaN[> midkay humour is not allowed in this channel, read the rules and oBey! 10.19.57 # mirror-drugs 10.20.14 # petur: oh come on. have you never found yourself staring at your rockboxed device through a mirror? 10.20.17 # pixelma: from the cup of youthful thinking 10.20.24 # n e v e r 10.21.31 # petur: weird. i don't think your vote counts because you're obviously biased against mirror-viewing. 10.24.37 # midkay: I just did a whois to make sure it's actually you... never heard you talk such a nonsense in the past 10.24.39 # no other objections? alright, it's pretty safe to assume that everyone else wants this mode... 10.26.43 # (; saedi driew sah yakdim 10.27.09 # this is new how? 10.27.13 # see? amiconn can speak Mirror! 10.27.21 # amiconn: come on, code it up! you have the know-how! :D 10.27.39 Nick amiconn is now known as nnocima (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.27.54 Nick nnocima is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD6FAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.27.54 # yes! 10.27.57 # no! :( 10.28.12 # i was just going to switch my display adapter into mirrored mode. we could communicate that way! 10.28.16 Nick scorche is now known as ehcrocs (i=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.30.10 Join davina [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.31.30 # (= nuf yna t'nera syug uoy 10.31.57 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF70A7.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.32.00 # !era ew erus 10.32.16 # !ti evorp 10.32.59 # <]RowaN[> ti pots 10.33.07 # ?yhw 10.33.18 # sraey eseth lla edom rorrim ni neeb ev'i ,midkay si kcin laer ym 10.33.53 Part maffe 10.33.55 # eseth? 10.34.03 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 10.34.06 # !nuf si siht ,no emoc 10.34.08 # !erulaif 10.34.28 # !ti nmad 10.34.35 # !opyt 10.34.43 # uoy esol 10.35.08 # !!ESOL UOY !AH 10.35.18 # !pu tuhs 10.35.38 # ehcrocs: ecalp gnorw eht ta saw kram noitseuq ruoy 10.35.43 # children... 10.35.49 # !esufer i ,on 10.39.14 # ?gnihtemos tnaw uoy did :amlexip 10.39.56 # * petur runs off screaming 10.40.48 # !edom rorrim deen ew yhw ees uoy won :rutep 10.41.32 # scorche: no, at the beginning it may have been funny but it becomes just stupid now.... :P 10.41.33 # rutep strofmoc em/ 10.41.40 # * JdGordon hopes you guys are doing that in a script.... 10.41.53 # t'nsi em/ 10.41.59 # you wierdo :p 10.42.13 # !i ma rehtien 10.42.51 # truh niarb ym gnikam si siht :nodroGdJ 10.43.19 # * petur adds his nick in mirror to the highlight list of his irc client 10.43.38 # retaehc...hguoht pleh evah uoy 10.43.41 # !yrotciv .ahah 10.43.53 # soo.... anyone interesting in getting the recording dir patch commited? we need 7222 or the other one OK-ed first.... 10.44.27 # emas eht gnikniht saw i :rutep 10.44.49 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.45.29 # JdGordon: I'd like to try on my Ondio first 10.45.40 # had forgotten the patch 10.46.28 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-69.pool80180.interbusiness.it) 10.47.30 # I havnt touched it in ages, but I'd really like to get an ok for the fat filename checking patch sometime soon... 10.48.13 # which fat check patch should I apply? 10.48.52 # either of them 10.49.06 # 7222 is my one, dunno the number of the other one 10.49.17 # they do exactly the same thing 10.50.44 # hmm... but I want to test a "clean" svn before... in the unlikely case that the microSD patch had some strange effect... 10.51.17 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp63-142.adsl.forthnet.gr) 10.51.47 # I dont think it would 10.52.28 # both ondios have the mmc right? 10.52.41 # the diff is funny, one wnt up and one went down on the sdpatch build :p 10.52.43 # sure, but one can't record 10.53.58 # if you mean the build table - there seem to be differences depending on what build server compiled the build... 10.56.50 # JdGordon: What is weird is that the microsd patch decreased the sansa binsize, and not only slightly... 10.57.20 Nick ehcrocs is now known as scorche (i=scorche@cpe-76-166-46-252.socal.res.rr.com) 10.59.24 # the ata driver was completly redone for the sansa which is why... 10.59.34 # aha 10.59.48 # well, I assume thats why 10.59.52 # Is the new driver fster? I spotted some asm... 11.00.02 # *faster 11.00.16 # I dont know if anyone has tested 11.02.03 # at least the recdir patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore (/me lazy) 11.02.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.02.33 # ok 11.03.30 # * JdGordon wonders why BOOTDIR is defined if its only used in 1 file in apps 11.04.58 # Because that's almost always better than using magic constants scattered all over 11.05.16 # is there any way we can pass some data from the bootloader to rockbox? 11.06.37 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 11.07.28 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 11.11.09 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.199.34) 11.15.52 # amiconn: your vmware image is set to german layout :\ do you know how to change that? 11.16.29 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m21.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 11.17.17 # also why did you change the name of the image? to login from ssh you must use the name debbox (which will confuse those that will upgrade to it from the old one) 11.18.30 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.19.16 # also it seems that I can't login with username: user and password "rockbox" do you know the user password or you can only log in with root? 11.19.39 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 11.19.52 # XavierGr: vmware image for compiling rockbox ? 11.20.05 # yes 11.20.29 # is cygwin really that slow ? 11.20.36 # yes it is 11.21.52 # ouch, compiling on windows must be painful 11.22.02 # well not with the vmware image 11.22.07 # vmware is quite easy with samba 11.22.11 # indeed 11.22.24 # not to mention that now I don't use the vmware interface at all 11.22.29 # just putty for commandline 11.22.37 # and windows explorer to get the files 11.23.02 # i have my editor pulling files from the network share and saving it over the network 11.23.17 # XavierGr: I didn't change the name; this vm is created from scratch 11.23.39 # The user login is rockbox/rockbox 11.24.16 # amiconn: yes I know it is from scratch still you change the defualt which was debian 11.25.21 # To change the keyboard layout, use dpkg-reconfigure console-data as root 11.26.05 # Sorry for the german keymap; 'twas too confusing to set it up with us keymap and then I forgot to reset it 11.26.21 # ah yes completely forgot that command thanks 11.26.40 # yeah I can imagine how confusing it would be 11.26.51 # * Lear doesn't think cygwin is _that_ slow... 11.27.05 # lear: about 2-3 times slower (maybe more) 11.27.34 # Cygwin is 3..4 times as slow as the vm, on the same hardware 11.27.58 # yeah something like that 11.28.00 # anyone mind me commiting a patch so the BL tries the microSD before the internal for rockbox.mi4? 11.28.00 # Yes, something like that, I expect. Not what I'd call painful though. 11.28.04 # And that's without a virus scanner on windows 11.28.21 # Depends on the scanner... 11.28.30 # Lear: Rebuilding all my targets and sims can easily take 3 hours in cygwin 11.28.44 # (with virus scanner deactivated) 11.28.56 # Hm, never tried that... 11.29.41 # JdGordon: That would be inconsistent with other targets and confusing imo 11.29.45 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=The-Comp@217-162-74-122.dclient.hispeed.ch) 11.29.49 # amiconn: why? 11.30.06 # Moin 11.30.13 # oops :D 11.30.23 # Well /.rockbox is located on the internal storage, and so should be the binary 11.30.31 # If you have an .mi4 on the sd, you can easily copy it over, or use rolo to run it 11.30.46 # yeah, but thats slow and annoying 11.31.31 # JdGordon: couldn't the bootloader check for a buttonpress and then read the binary from SD? 11.31.43 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.31.57 # n1s: yeah, if right isnt pressed it will try the msd 11.32.12 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 11.32.49 # amiconn: oh, dircache was removed... that why the e200 build went down 11.33.01 # Btw, if anyone has noticed the latest upstream Tremor changes, I'm about to add them to Rockbox. 11.33.58 # Lear: wow, I thought tremor was sort-of dead... 11.34.07 # JdGordon: I'd say nothing pressed should be the default (loading from internal memory) not the other way round 11.34.19 # Just some bugfixes, but... 11.34.44 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 11.34.52 # Also, the bootloader should be kiss, and not do more than what's absolutely necessary to boot rockbox (and the of or a rescue firmware if dualboot is implemented) 11.35.30 # Looking for a binary in a bazillion places, or even adding multivolume + hotswap support, certainly isn't kiss 11.36.29 Part maffe 11.36.37 # well, true... ok, Ill just keep this to myself then 11.36.40 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 11.37.09 # * amiconn would rather want an unzip plugin 11.37.19 # * JdGordon too 11.37.55 # .. built into the BL :D 11.37.55 # This would allow to install a new build on Ondio (and now Sansa) from the MMC (or SD) 11.37.59 # * JdGordon runs away 11.38.14 # * JdGordon doesnt really run away 11.39.56 # Oh, gpl v3 was released... 11.41.03 # is rockbox staying with gpl2 ? 11.41.17 # is a license that's more free compatible with GPL? http://www.zlib.net/zlib_license.html 11.43.47 # http://gplv3.fsf.org/wiki/index.php/Compatible_licenses#GPLv2-compatible_licenses looks like it 11.45.36 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 11.50.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.54.54 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-185-63.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 12.00.45 Part maffe 12.00.54 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 12.04.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-69.pool80180.interbusiness.it) 12.05.24 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.16.11 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF70A7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.18.19 Quit Zagor (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.21.19 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590f8880.pool.einsundeins.de) 12.21.28 Quit Wiwie (Client Quit) 12.34.43 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 12.35.10 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.24 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.35.59 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.37.00 # amiconn: other than the keyboard layout I think that your version is perfect. Maybe you should upload it to Bagder for inclusion on the wiki (with some comments about the changed hostname and username) 12.38.46 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.39.08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF72F7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.42.35 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 12.44.06 # Hi! Can someone tell me what has happened to the tracker? www.rockbox.org does not respond, the tracker is not available, only the download stuff at videolan.rockbox.org is there... 12.44.50 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.45.19 Quit The-Compiler ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") 12.45.31 # there's no problem here... 12.50.13 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=The-Comp@217-162-74-122.dclient.hispeed.ch) 12.50.49 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.51.13 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 12.52.47 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@83-65-238-41.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 12.53.39 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.55.59 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.55.59 Quit petur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.57.39 # pixelma: means that you can connect to www.rockbox.org? 12.59.46 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-106-056.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 13.01.51 # yes - and the tracker too 13.01.56 # Hmm, strange. 13.02.09 # Here I get: The server at www.rockbox.org is taking too long to respond. 13.02.26 # Can you tell me which ....WAIT .... I AM STUPID ... 13.02.47 # Did they move IP addresses? 13.03.46 # Ok, my failure. Thanks ... 13.04.01 # hosts file? 13.04.45 # yup, that was it. Some time ago the DNS server of my provider didn't pick up the IP of rockbox.org and I added it by hand to the hosts file. Well. 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I think to your current patches in the tracker. 13.46.47 # we still doesn't have yet word games, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7180 could be a good candidate, but the patche apear doesn't finished... 13.48.13 # No, it's not 13.48.20 # I'm in the process of fixing up my other game plugin 13.48.26 # But that target game will be next in line 13.48.41 # nice to hear :) 13.49.58 # Nice to hear that someone else cares :) 13.50.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.50.54 # hehe :) 13.52.19 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.52.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp145-149.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.53.07 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 13.54.27 # has anyone already expirienced that the generated DB form rockbox contains much more files than actually are on your device? 13.54.36 # using ipod video 30GB 13.55.10 # do you have iPodGames on your iPod? 13.55.20 # files that already existed on the past? 13.55.21 Quit The-Compiler ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") 13.55.58 # if so, just update the database 13.58.11 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.58.48 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.05.56 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-102-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.06.59 # @ moos : i did update the db 14.07.18 # also tried generating a new one 14.08.19 # did you remove the database files generated in the .rockbox dir? 14.08.26 # btw i'm expiriencing that not all tags are read 14.08.39 # --> untagged 14.08.46 # which files? 14.09.53 # the .tcd files? 14.10.48 # ah ok 14.11.29 # i'll try this out 14.12.02 # remove all those .tcd files on your .rockbox dir. And then rebuild a new one 14.13.23 # 9 files removed 14.13.35 # and if you want more infos about the "process", go to debug menu and go to database info for see the progress of the building and how much files they are precisely 14.13.49 # good, rebuild a fresh databse then 14.14.07 Join Guile`` [0] (n=Guile@84.7.92.78) 14.16.44 # lol: at the of the progress it says in debug menu: 14.17.08 # -1% 5256 entries 14.17.21 # * at the end 14.17.35 # yup that's good, you have to wait the 7th or 8 step of commiting now 14.17.59 # and then it will say you that the db is ready to use 14.18.35 # its it is, but i only have about 3000 mp3/mp4s on my ipod 14.18.43 # *says 14.19.22 # did you already the counter plugin? 14.19.26 # +use 14.19.51 # it will say you too how much files/di/music you have 14.20.01 # it's called stats 14.20.26 # oops :) 14.20.38 # it says 3125 pieces of music 14.21.00 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 14.21.08 # then all is fine ??? 14.21.39 # no 14.21.52 # when there >5000files in db 14.22.04 # but only 3125 songs 14.22.12 # you have 5256 files, 3124 music files 14.22.30 # even stats says on the whole there are 5098 files 14.22.36 # ah ok 14.22.38 # the db says there are 5256 14.23.00 # strange 14.23.09 # is there a trash can or "system volume information folder on your device? 14.23.20 # possible a bug of "evilg build"? 14.23.24 Quit p3tur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.23.38 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.23.56 # haemmy: are your files well tagged? 14.24.04 # they are 14.24.28 # but thats not important isnt it? 14.24.39 # then IIUC you have taginformations for music that they aren't? 14.24.44 # if they are not theyre shown as untagged 14.24.51 # IIUC? 14.25.31 # the main thing is that you can use your music database and that better that the evil itunes thing 14.25.41 # If I Understand Correctly 14.25.43 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 14.27.08 # ? 14.27.22 # * moos goes away for profit to his week end 14.27.39 # is your database usable anyway? (I meant) 14.27.49 # * pixelma gtg too 14.27.53 Part pixelma 14.28.05 # yes it is 14.28.32 # then enjoy :) bye 14.28.41 # ^^# 14.29.12 # thats no solution ^^ 14.42.35 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-207-157.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 15.04.45 Join pseudo_ [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-227-221.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net) 15.04.59 Quit printfXh4 (Nick collision from services.) 15.05.09 Nick pseudo_ is now known as printfXh4 (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-227-221.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net) 15.09.48 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client") 15.13.23 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.13.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp173-228.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.16.18 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 15.19.19 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.21.14 Join IcyStorM [0] (i=IcyStorM@c-4493e655.173-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 15.22.48 # saratoga: (If you read the logs) I've been looking at libasf this morning, and have got the ffmpeg wma decoder (the old version) working with it. It still needs a lot more work to adapt it to Rockbox's way of working (no file I/O, no malloc/free), but it looks promising. I've also been able to strip out a lot more of the ffmpeg stuff, leaving just what's needed for the wma decoder itself. 15.24.43 Join \sic [0] (n=s1c@p54834C8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.24.47 # <\sic> hey guys 15.24.51 # <\sic> any german here?! 15.25.19 # I just uploaded a bmp and .diff to the tracker (which seems to have worked), but it spat this out: http://www.pastebin.ca/597201 15.25.50 # aliask: dont worry about it 15.25.54 # it should have uploaded fine 15.26.03 # It has, but it's unsightly :) 15.26.40 # <\sic> how i include a visualisation in my theme like the rockbox.default?! 15.27.04 # <\sic> (the two lines beating to the music) 15.27.27 # \sic: There is only a very simple visualisation possible, which is %pm 15.27.34 # \sic: Those are called peakmeters. 15.27.38 # <\sic> mh 15.27.39 # <\sic> okay 15.28.11 # <\sic> i think that too but when i build in to my theme then my ipod load the standart theme... 15.29.03 # That means that your theme has an error. When there is an error in the theme, Rockbox loads the default theme. 15.29.10 # <\sic> mhh 15.29.20 # <\sic> can you look my theme file?! 15.29.31 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 15.29.45 # I suggest you post a thread on our forums: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php 15.30.27 # There are people there more familiar with the WPS syntax than I. Use the "WPS and Customization" forum. 15.30.30 # <\sic> i think my problem is very simple and i am to stupid for that 15.31.12 Quit haemmy () 15.31.28 # <\sic> here the wps: http://nopaste.php-quake.net/1329 15.31.29 # <\sic> xD 15.31.44 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 15.32.00 # Trust me, there have been people far more stupid than you who have managed to post on the forums. 15.33.39 # <\sic> my english sucks :( 15.34.30 # \sic: Your english is much better than a lot of people who ask questions (even if english is their first language) :) 15.34.54 # <\sic> oh, thank you :) 15.35.46 # <\sic> oookay, i write a post :/ 15.35.53 # As far as I know, the format for the peakmeter is %pm. You have additional parameters. 15.37.17 # <\sic> mh do you mean without parameters? 15.38.05 # <\sic> oh great 15.38.08 # <\sic> its works :) 15.41.42 # I think I may have found a bug... 15.42.59 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.14 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5ADA.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.43.50 # <\sic> give it a standby modus for rockbox? 15.43.57 # <\sic> or only on and off? 15.44.04 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.44.43 # \sic: If that was directed towards me, I'm referring to a bug not related to what you're talking about 15.45.05 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 15.45.13 # <\sic> i dont understand?! 15.45.15 # chrisjs169: just say what the bug is. 15.46.34 # Febs: I was testing it in the official build before I was going to say what it was (was using custom before) 15.48.01 # \sic: no stand by for rockbox. but it boots fast enough on most targets so that isn't really an issue :) 15.48.24 # When using the oscilloscope on the Sansa, when the green 'line' (music doesn't have to be playing for the bug to occur) is verticle, when it reaches the bottom of the screen, the root menu 'gets all messed up' 15.49.20 # <\sic> DerPapst german?^^ 15.49.32 Part IcyStorM 15.49.49 # yes. but not very familiar with rockbox. 15.50.11 # Anyone have a sansa they can confirm the above bug with? 15.50.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.51.39 # I have a sansa, I never noticed that before. I could check once I find it 15.52.12 Join peppo [0] (n=slumpmas@c-9770e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 15.52.26 # huhm. my rockbox videoipod seems to randomly be booting into apple firmware 15.52.33 # <\sic> okay ;) 15.52.40 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.53.01 # peppo: randomly means always when the hold switch is on? 15.53.08 # DerPapst, nopes. 15.53.09 # <\sic> how can i install patches like: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4871?histring=peakmeter 15.53.15 # irregardless 15.53.27 # now when I connected the usb cable, it was sitting on the table 15.53.29 # no buttons held 15.54.01 # and Hold was even active 15.54.03 # so that's not an option 15.54.17 # \sic: you have to download the Rockbox source and compile it on your own 15.54.24 # <\sic> damnit 15.55.21 # I have a custom build though - I could add it to that 15.55.41 # \sic: compiling is acually pretty easy. 15.56.23 # Last update to that patch was 10 months ago 15.56.43 # then it is broken for sure 15.56.57 # yeah 15.57.51 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.57.54 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp51-247.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.00.16 # <\sic> okay i use the standart peakmeter 16.00.38 # <\sic> another question: can i edit the trackbar?! i want to design a new one ;) 16.02.22 # if you mean the progressbar the answer is yes. 16.02.28 Quit ]RowaN[ () 16.02.39 # <\sic> äh, yes! 16.04.10 # \sic: checkout some other custom wpses. they give you a good example how to cutomise the progresbaar with own graphics 16.06.23 # <\sic> okay 16.09.59 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.10.02 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp101-150.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.13.59 # <\sic> mhhh 16.15.57 Quit bluey- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.16.27 # <\sic> lol i dont understand to customise my progressbar 0o 16.17.17 # well you tried for 10 minutes.... 16.17.33 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 16.18.06 # <\sic> mh 16.18.56 # <\sic> i think i can only edit the heigh, width, length of the progressbar but not with own images by the ipod mini 2g 16.19.51 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-157-222.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 16.20.00 # look in the wps gallery.... if they can do it, so can you and look at how they did it 16.20.29 # it works on colour targets at least. not sure about b&w ones 16.20.31 # <\sic> http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=138x110x2 16.20.32 # <\sic> ... 16.21.19 Join JdG [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 16.21.22 Nick JdG is now known as JdGord (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 16.21.42 # looks like one can only use the default one 16.22.01 Quit JdGordon (Nick collision from services.) 16.22.05 Quit JdGordon_ (Nick collision from services.) 16.22.07 Nick JdGord is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 16.24.56 # bitmapped progressbar should work for al LCD targets (looking at the code), only backdrop is restricted to color 16.25.15 # use %P|filename.bmp| 16.25.16 # <\sic> 0o 16.25.56 # <\sic> mh 16.26.23 # <\sic> yes i have a nano theme with the parameter but i dont understand how its works 0o 16.26.52 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54967C3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.29.09 # \sic: have you seen http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 16.29.24 # it explaines everything 16.30.12 # <\sic> mh k 16.30.34 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.30.36 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp222-32.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.31.33 # I'll build a b/w sim to verify... let's see who gets it working first 16.32.59 # * DerPapst places his bid 16.34.04 # <\sic> damit, its works! 16.34.17 # * DerPapst lost his money 16.35.01 # * petur discovers his sim crashes on playback :( 16.35.27 Join vitess [0] (n=vit@58.111.164.60) 16.35.30 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=The-Comp@217-162-74-122.dclient.hispeed.ch) 16.35.34 # hello 16.35.37 # s/bid/stake? 16.38.39 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-102-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.38.57 # I'm having an issue with the Sansa e200 and the way Rockbox seems to buffer files - the e200 has an issue with electrical noise when reading from the flash but with the Sandisk firmware it's very brief 16.39.18 # Rockbox seems to spend a lot more time buffering when loading a track (seems to load subsequent tracks in a folder) so the noise lasts around 15 seconds 16.39.32 # does anyone know how to change this buffering behaviour? 16.39.41 # you cant 16.40.17 # Jd: do you know if there are any other workarounds? 16.40.34 # no 16.40.52 # :( 16.41.54 # I havnt noticed any noise when buffering... 16.41.59 # bah, sims give a segfault when playing an mp3.. anybody else seeing this? 16.42.12 # petur: 64 bit? 16.42.18 # no 16.42.53 # petur: well, it's a known issue for 64 bit sims but i thought it worked on 32... 16.43.32 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.43.44 # Jd: what kind of headphones are you using? it is barely noticable on my full size beyerdynamics, but on my much lower impedence (16 ohm) canalphones it's very clear 16.43.47 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5ADA.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.44.22 # I tried h300 and h100 sims here and they both crashed. Last thing it prints before the segfault is 'First frame is at 1279' 16.44.24 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.22 # vitess: /me is no audiophile, using the stock standard supplied ones still 16.46.06 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 16.48.07 # it seems the build quality of the sansa isn't that good. static when reading flash, static when updating LCD (during recording),... 16.48.40 # Jd: I haven't even unpacked those so I guess I'll do it now - do you happen to know how long the loading/reading icon in the top right corner appears when you first load a song in a folder? curious whether yours behaves the same way 16.49.17 Quit lee-qid_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.49.19 # not really.. its likely the problem will be on all 16.49.21 # <\sic> the mini can only 1bit also black/white and NOT grey or? 16.49.26 # the slow buffering defiantly is 16.50.28 # wasn't sure if it's buffering more slowly or buffering more than Sandisk's software 16.51.58 # the difference seemed to be that Rockbox is buffering subsequent tracks, so you get around 15 seconds of noise on at the start of the first track then no noise on the next few tracks 16.52.29 # whereas with the Sandisk software the noise is at the start of every track, but only lasts about 2 secs 16.54.51 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.55.36 # There is a wiki-user "PiSiK0PATR". This name isn't allowed! 16.56.12 # yes, they come in all the time and get cleaned up at some point 16.56.44 # petur: I noticed the LCD noise during recording; but the noise when reading flash is at least hidden a bit by the behaviour of the Sandisk software 16.57.01 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 16.58.22 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@71-10-136-117.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 16.59.07 # vitess: due to the fact that most targets are hdd based, rockbox tries to buffer as much as possible during disk spinning. Seems reasonable that you don't do this on flash devices... 16.59.33 # Jd: can't really hear it on the stock earbuds; they must be higher impdedence (have to use a higher volume setting to get the same loudness) 17.00.18 Part kretender 17.03.19 # peter: I understand 17.07.06 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 17.09.14 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.09.14 Quit petur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.09.30 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.12.35 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 17.17.41 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@host.91-92-172-170.airbites.bg) 17.19.48 Join Shine [0] (i=Shine@87.69.73.235) 17.20.32 # In the gameboy emulator which is the start button(sansa 280) 17.21.25 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 17.23.16 Quit lazka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.24.03 # Shine: http://videolan.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-build.html 17.24.11 # i would like to make a Rockbox-quiz. Any suggestions for questions that I can ask? 17.25.05 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@85-124-43-132.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 17.30.25 Quit jurrie ("Leaving") 17.33.33 Quit The-Compiler ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") 17.39.52 # good bye everyone :) 17.39.54 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 17.43.16 Quit thegeek () 17.43.57 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 17.45.09 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 17.45.10 Join crazymike [0] (i=d95fabad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4f8ca9d1a1958f70) 17.46.08 # what do you think how long will you need to port rockbox for sansa e200R series? 17.46.51 # crazymike: There's no way to predict. It might not even happen at all. 17.47.28 Quit Shine (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.47.49 # ok... 17.48.11 Part crazymike 17.50.03 # jhMikeS, are you around? 17.50.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.50.47 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-105-221.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 17.53.44 # kkurbjun: did you see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7368 ? 17.54.05 # kkurbjun: yes 17.54.59 # good timing btw. I just now peeked in 17.55.32 # petur, The sound doesn't repeat the same buffer anymore so there are pauses in the sound instead of looping samples 17.56.01 # so, which would be worse 17.56.13 # I guess for him, looping samples are better 17.56.46 # kkurbjun: I have to agree with him that the sound doesn't sound better after the update, and it made it slower 17.56.49 # jhMikes, I was thinking about looiking into rolo on the gigabeat, but I wanted make sure you hadn't already worked on it 17.57.09 # kkurbjun: no, I haven't done anything with that yet 17.57.17 # even on Gigabit which runs around full speed sounds a little bit worse IMHO 17.57.26 # ok, I'll check it out 17.57.53 # XavierGr, what framerate is it running at on the games your are playing? 17.58.54 # it's easy enough to disable the waits, but it messes up the timing on the gigabeat and the game runs too fast 17.58.55 # well I don't remember but I think that the framerate drop on H300 was about 4-5 18.00.02 # it's using 44khz now.. which players cannot use 11khz? I would make only those run at 44k, but I don't know which ones support the full frequency range and which ones do not 18.00.17 # the gigabeat should be at a steady 60 fps 18.00.31 # could you check and let me know, also let me know what game you are playing 18.00.40 # kkurbjun: HW_HAVE_11 and HW_HAVE_11_() will be defined if the player supports that 18.01.12 # 'all the ones I played had the sound much more lined up. jhMikeS, is there a have 22 also? 18.01.23 # hmm okay, so what do you want me to test exactly? I remember that on Gigabeat it was realtime but sound was still flawed (in a different way) 18.01.42 # kkurbjun: there's one for each rate 18.01.44 # kkurbjun: my main test is Marioland 1 18.01.53 # "Super Mario Land" that is 18.02.28 # config*.h defines a bitmask of supported samplerates and HW_HAVE_xx and HW_HAVE_xx_() and defined based on the mask 18.02.38 # *are defined 18.02.52 # XavierGr, how was the sound flawed? it does sound different from the older builds, but I also synced the sound to the last version of gnuboy - it is expected to sound different 18.03.07 # jhMikeS, thanks, I will use that then 18.03.08 # kkurbjun: see pcm_sampr.c and pcm_sampr.c for details 18.03.19 # pcm_sampr.h :P 18.03.36 # kkurbjun: when I say flawed I mean it is different and worse than the original, maybe gnuboy is to blame? 18.05.40 # XavierGr, I just don't understand what is worse, the samples are not overwriting themselves anymore on the gigabeat, everything should be locked properly now, does it sound like samples are missing? Are there extra noises that were not present before? 18.05.50 Join cheshire- [0] (i=cheshire@cpe-75-82-189-235.socal.res.rr.com) 18.07.20 # On the gigabeat I was testing with a frameskip of 0 or 1 to make sure the game was running at a steady 60 fps 18.07.26 Join inversions [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 18.07.28 # kkurbjun: yeah I will have to try again that one, because I don't remember how it was, on H300 though that I did test with the older version it still sounded more weird (maybe has to do that now it is slower) 18.08.10 # XavierGr, I will write up a patch to run it on the H300 at 11khz again, would you test it when I have it ready? 18.08.34 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 18.09.06 # of course 18.10.23 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=xavier@ppp222-32.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.11.56 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 18.12.04 # hmm how can I compile a specific revision in svn? 18.13.05 # you mean you want checkout specific revision ? 18.13.13 # yes 18.13.39 # svn up -rREVISION_NUMBER 18.13.43 Join rumaxi [0] (i=dmn@sys.42-club.ru) 18.13.46 # ah thanks 18.13.58 # damn dinner's ready I will have to test it later 18.14.19 # hi there. Folks, i've got ATA Error: -32 on startup. what is this ? 18.14.23 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.15.12 # HDD is seems to be alright and able to RW via usb on desktop . fsck.vfat didn't found any errors 18.21.41 # rumaxi: what player? 18.22.01 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 18.22.08 # Cowon X5 18.26.00 # that code seems to be generated in firmware/drivers/ata.c on line, and it's got something to do with reading some registers from the disk 18.26.15 # *line 739 18.26.49 # did this happen just like that? 18.26.51 # so it's hardware problem with reading registers ? 18.26.54 # the player must have just come back from Cowon service :) 18.27.21 # rumaxi: it is writing and reading back registers 18.29.08 # wait, i'll download sources by myself, i'am russian so i understand C better then english :D 18.29.30 Quit desowin ("use linux") 18.29.46 # the function is check_registers() in firmware/drivers.ata.c 18.29.52 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 18.30.50 # and that is called from init_and_check() which adds -30 to the retval giving the total of -32 18.31.14 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.31.17 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp70-246.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.31.44 # it means initialization of hdd failed ? 18.33.29 # it means that reading back values that were written to some registers failed 18.33.47 # i see 18.34.16 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/drivers/ata.c?revision=13480&view=markup&pathrev=13741 18.34.29 # workaround ? 18.34.40 # how did this start? 18.35.12 Join Soroosh [0] (n=syazdani@CPE0016b641c9dd-CM00122570463e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.36.33 # it's my fault i think, i replaced original battery with nokia's one :-) but i didn't even touch hdd.. 18.37.04 # maybe static or something else, i don't know 18.37.46 # you could buid rockbox yourself and see if it works with the call removed 18.37.58 # *build 18.38.22 # ok, i'll try to coment this return 18.38.51 # xaviergr, I see what you mean in super mario land, there is a high pitch sound that rides on top of it, all of the gameboy color games I have tried are much better and most of the gameboy original games, there are a few that have that high pitch sound riding on them. 18.39.59 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp161-74.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.39.59 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.41.35 # petur: have you got toolchain to build iaudio's rockbox ? 18.42.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers 18.42.34 # i just don't want to mess my own binutils and gcc 18.42.39 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967D11.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.43.00 # you want me to build you a patched build? 18.43.42 # i'll be very glad if you do it for me 18.44.01 # if it's not difficult for you 18.44.30 # petur: I think I came up with a sort of nasty workaround for the buffering / electrical noise issue with the sansa; I increased the "max files in dir/playlist" to ridiculous sizes in order to reduce the free buffer - bringing it down from 30MB to around 10MB, and that has greatly reduced the amount of buffering when playing the first song in a folder 18.44.41 Quit XavierGr_ (Client Quit) 18.44.51 # hoping it doesn't have any negative effects... 18.45.28 Part Soroosh 18.46.15 # rumaxi: do you get this error in the bootloader or when rockbox itself starts? 18.47.24 # on bootloader after Version abd batt strings 18.47.29 # *and 18.48.03 # so it's not rockbox problem.. 18.48.33 # better not risk things with a bootloader anyway 18.49.10 # I've had my player get stuck after displaying bthe batt voltage when my battery was borked 18.49.28 # did you already try to put the original battery in? 18.49.36 # so it might be a batt problem ? 18.49.46 # but why this error message ? 18.49.51 # no idea.... 18.50.36 # I do know that I have seen disks not working ok due to faulty powersupply 18.51.28 # I'm a bit out of ideas, maybe somebody else has an idea? Too bad amiconn isn't here... 18.51.40 # my disk's mount via usb fine while on internal power 18.52.50 # sure the usb doesn't also feed power? 18.53.31 # well, dinner time here, got to cook some food... 18.53.34 # oh, u're right 18.53.50 # bbl 18.53.56 # bb 18.55.31 # markun: are you fammiliar with the font cache stuff? 18.58.54 # rockbox uses unsigned 16 bit samples for sound natively correct? 19.00.17 Quit vitess () 19.01.28 Join Spec_ [0] (n=spec@69.60.114.106) 19.01.40 # hey, the site seems wonky...where can i get the bootloader/firmware? (rbutil)? 19.02.39 # ah, videolan.rockbox =p 19.03.01 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 19.06.12 Quit \sic ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 19.06.51 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 19.07.11 # kkurbjun: signed 16bit 19.08.45 # jhMikeS, I am trying to convert the 8 bit signed samples in rockboy to (now) signed 16 bit.. should I be concerned about any of the u or A law stuff? Is rockbox linear? 19.10.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp198-51.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.10.42 # kkurbjun: there? 19.10.49 # xaviergr, yes 19.11.15 # I tried marioland, it has an extremely high pitched sound riding on the output 19.11.22 # well prior to your version on Gigabeat rockboy runs more than it should 19.11.41 # kkurbjun: indeed that's why I said that it sounds bad 19.11.53 # and 44.1khz makes it worse 19.12.00 # I heard that on some of the gameboy games, but none were that bad - 19.12.02 # at least on that specific game 19.12.26 # what's your suggestion? which game should i test? 19.12.54 # yes, dr mario does it also, the majority of games I tried did not do it though, and the color games sound much better in general.. legend of zelda, gameboy color version - could you let me know how that sounds? 19.13.28 # ok I will try them out (good thing I own most of them :P) 19.13.44 # though I have to say that 44.1 khz is an overkill for devices that can go lower 19.14.00 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@ti521110a080-0286.bb.online.no) 19.14.05 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 19.14.24 # :), I have that fixed in my version, I will post a patch once I figure out that noise 19.14.33 # the 11khz thing that is 19.15.20 # does gnuboy has a windows version tha I can try? maybe the emulator is bad on ondio emulation 19.15.58 # there is a windows version 19.16.42 # let me see if I can find it 19.16.55 # I will try that version and see what the sound sounds like :P 19.17.19 # found it 19.17.37 # you have to run it from command line 19.19.12 # yes 19.19.16 # gah it sounds horrible 19.19.35 # there is an echo like effect that ruins everything 19.20.26 # that's on the windows version? 19.22.25 # yes 19.25.11 # try setting SDL_AUDIODRIVER=waveout before you run it 19.25.43 # I can't run it on my computer, it just crashes 19.27.03 # well it seems that gnuboy sucks on sound emulation, virtualboy's playback for example is perfect 19.28.38 # kkurbjun: it's linear 19.29.39 # jhMikeS, ok, thanks 19.33.13 # kkurbjun: what SDL_AUDIODRIVER=waveout does? 19.35.00 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 19.37.00 # it was just something that was in the FAQ for gnuboy, it is supposed to get rid of some noise 19.40.42 Quit rumaxi ("leaving") 19.41.44 # kkurbjun: yeah it fixed the sound issue quite well but it lags like hell now 19.44.57 # kkurbjun: thing is that on rockboy sound sounds wrong on all games that I am trying 19.50.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.04.39 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 20.05.44 # wasn't there a metronome plugin in rockbox? 20.08.56 # ah probably it isn't compiled for the sim 20.10.27 # XavierGr: correct, it relies on some timer thingy that isn't implemented in the sim 20.15.24 Join AdmiralJ [0] (n=AdmiralJ@c-69-252-146-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 20.18.18 # hmm, buildserver seems stuck :-/ 20.19.06 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3020.gwdg.de) 20.22.44 Quit BHSPitLappy (Success) 20.29.09 Quit printfXh4 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.56.23 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 20.56.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp38-203.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.07.39 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.07.42 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp223-169.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.09.41 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179202211.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.10.26 Quit inversions (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.10.55 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-70-136-104-80.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 21.12.47 Quit ptw419 () 21.16.40 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 21.16.42 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 21.17.16 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 21.18.21 # Hi, I am trying to compile Flite TTS system for rockbox as a plugin 21.18.47 # I have done a sample helloworld plugin with a seperate directory too 21.18.48 # TTSbox_: cool :-) 21.19.03 # but this Flite code has more directories 21.19.35 # Should I have sources listed as directory/filename 21.19.59 # or rockbox makefile looks recursively? 21.20.35 # Thanks Domonoky I hope I manage this first porting 21.20.40 # I undertook 21.21.05 # They have their own makefiles 21.21.08 # TTSbox_: hm i think if you add your plugin dir to SUBDIRS, then the makefile in this folder will be called.. 21.21.28 # oh 21.21.35 # that may be good 21.21.39 # thanks 21.21.57 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.22.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@62.1.172.129) 21.22.08 # but I think I will need to add some stuff from makefiles of other plugins 21.22.20 # right Domonoky? 21.22.35 # jeah you have to adapt the Makefile in your plugin dir.. 21.22.52 # thns 21.29.28 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.29.46 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m21.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 21.31.36 Join mud-rb [0] (n=jas6180@c-71-202-129-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 21.46.24 Quit chrisjs169 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.48.18 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.48.21 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp60-165.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.50.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.55.19 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-140-107.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.58.21 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3020.gwdg.de) 22.00.40 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.39 Join whoa_nice [0] (n=whoa_NIC@67.189.44.245) 22.01.44 # y0 22.03.39 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@ti521110a080-0286.bb.online.no) 22.09.54 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 22.16.54 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.20.37 Part maffe 22.20.45 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 22.29.53 # XavierGr: here is a patch, could you try this out on the gigabeat and H300 and let me know how it sounds: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7379 22.31.22 # kkurbjun: looks like you forgot to attach the patch 22.32.11 # I started adding in some sound code from VisualBoyAdvance - It only adds in some of the code for sound channel 3 (out of 4), and it seems to work well on the gigabeat, but I'm not sure how fast or slow it will run on the H300 22.32.23 # mud-rb, thanks I just attached it 22.37.18 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 22.43.45 Quit desowin ("use linux") 22.51.55 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@85-124-173-23.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 22.58.08 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3020.gwdg.de) 23.11.04 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.13.18 Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") 23.17.02 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.23.14 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.28.19 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 23.30.09 # PaulJam: here? 23.33.52 # petur yes 23.34.33 # re the corruption you saw when moving a dir, was that with or without dircache? 23.35.09 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.35.18 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179202211.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.37.27 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.38.00 # when i tested it with the official build i had used default settings (dircache off), but when i observed it with the unsupported build i had dircache enabled, so i guess it has no influence. 23.38.19 # ok thanks 23.38.37 # means I can rule out dircache 23.50.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.50.54 Nick swolbhsub is now known as bushblows (n=bushblow@208.64.37.45) 23.51.08 Quit peppo ("quit") 23.53.18 # does one of these scripts in the tools directory make a .zip for each target? 23.53.52 # fuck YA 23.56.53 # mud-rb: if you type 'make zip' a zipfile is made 23.57.52 # no, i mean like i was hoping there was a script to make a zip for each target, so i don't have to keep doing ../tools/configure and such over and over 23.58.29 # ah... maybe talk to amiconn when he's around, he has some setup to builds all targets 23.58.36 # -s 23.58.37 # ah okay, thanks