--- Log for 07.07.107 Server: simmons.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 18 hours ago 00.02.27 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@h237.231.143.24.cable.snbr.sanbrunocable.com) 00.02.59 # Soap,custom but I read the forum but didn't post or reply as far as ican see the patches I use are still in sync but may make more demands on the wps parser. 00.03.44 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 00.04.18 # I have a quick question about downmixing if someone knowledgable would not mind: is it more sensible to downmix from DTS or ac3? 00.06.04 # but you're not willing to test one w/o eyecandy? 00.09.20 # Soap, go on then I will for you leave it on over night report in morning before work 00.12.03 # how do you want me to deliver it to you? 00.12.04 # * bluebrother wonders if there are free speex sample files around 00.12.29 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 00.13.08 # What's error 1 in make mean? 00.13.51 # amiconn: after two hours, still running. I'm going to have to shutdown the test soon as I need to leave for the airport, but I'll be using Rockbox on the plane, so I should get a good sense of whether any problems remain. 00.14.20 # Soap, As a zip somewhere 00.15.21 Join _Dorian [0] (n=chatzill@c-69-248-1-104.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 00.15.56 # bluebrother: http://www.speex.org/samples/ 00.16.43 # MonkeyTamer: found that myself, but I thought about spx files, not recoded to wav 00.16.46 # oopps 00.16.49 # just noticed that 00.16.56 # :) 00.17.06 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@244.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) 00.17.09 # http://rockbox.cleansoap.org/files/rockboxpostamicon5g.zip 00.18.17 # bluebrother: found one i think http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/scrub.html 00.18.26 # just search spx 00.18.45 # <_Dorian> just wondering what you guys thing of including a small podcast patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7111 00.19.18 Join aaronw [0] (n=chatzill@68-112-180-65.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) 00.19.20 # hmm. Google wasn't helpful for me. Strange. 00.19.38 # two samples on that page 00.20.03 # those speex files may be problematic... as they are stereo and when i last checked the stereo code used floating point code which was removed when the speex port was cleaned up 00.20.22 # (not that it worked well in the original port) 00.20.44 Quit toyoyo ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 00.20.53 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.21.15 Quit aaronw (Client Quit) 00.21.22 # user was asking me why they were getting this error (http://pastebin.ca/606534) and I think it has something to do with error 1 in make, though I can't say for sure - tips? 00.21.22 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6760?histring=speex%20stereo 00.22.46 # Soap,running now 00.23.02 Quit Febs ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 00.24.21 # <_Dorian> nothing on the podcast patch? 00.27.50 # * bluebrother notices we have >1000 open tasks :( 00.28.50 # Better get closing, then.. 00.29.02 # Bagder: rockbox.org/tracker (without trailing slash) gives me an 404. Would be nice if this automatically could redirect to rockbox.org/tracker/ (with trailing slash ;-) 00.29.09 Quit kubiix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.30.08 Join Segadude [0] (n=sega@cpe-24-24-88-117.stny.res.rr.com) 00.30.42 Quit MonkeyTamer ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 00.30.47 # Hey guys! Can rockboy play gba games? 00.30.51 # pondlife: you really want me to close all "useless" tasks? ;-) 00.31.04 # Segadude: no 00.31.25 # Ok is there anything that does? 00.31.55 # Segadude: a Gameboy advanced maybe? 00.31.57 # bluebrother: I dare you :) 00.32.20 # I mean for the ipod! 00.32.20 # pondlife: nah, I'm just too tired to do actual work *g* 00.32.45 # Segadude: if there were a plugin it would be in the current build 00.32.45 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 00.33.41 # I don't think the Ipod is powerful enough to run a gba emulator 00.33.51 # ok then. One more thing. Does rockboy have sound? 00.33.56 # yes 00.34.11 # PaulJam: I see 00.34.40 # Ok thanks guys! Bye! 00.34.43 Quit Segadude (Client Quit) 00.34.53 # i doubt ipod is anywhere near powerful enough 00.38.34 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.41.02 Quit TTSbox ("Leaving") 00.41.08 Part S1gn 00.43.51 Nick Doomed is now known as alienbiker99 (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 00.47.43 Join Beta-guy [0] (n=Owner@d205-206-185-133.abhsia.telus.net) 00.48.01 Quit samsharp99 () 00.48.05 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 00.48.07 # is there a website with thirdparty rockbox plugins? 00.48.18 # not exactly. 00.48.35 # oh 00.48.42 # there was this plugbox site but imo it doesn't make too much sense distributing binary plugins 00.48.55 # at least not unless there is a stable release of Rockbox ... 00.50.13 # you can download other plugins? 00.51.34 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 00.51.39 # not really 00.52.57 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.56.37 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 00.56.40 Quit belze_ ("Ich weiß deine Monster sind genau wie meine, und mit denen bleibt man besser nicht alleine.") 00.57.17 # nighty night all 00.57.44 # well you /could/ in theory. 00.57.50 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 00.57.50 # Doesn't mean any exist. 00.58.00 # or at least any working ones that I am aware of. 00.58.18 Quit seclein2 (Connection timed out) 00.58.31 Join seclein2 [0] (n=scl@70.230.181.56) 00.59.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.00.22 # Soap: http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.com/ 01.00.36 # they are h300 centric and outdated as hell. 01.03.22 # a more recent version of the calendar from that page is on the tracker. 01.03.29 Quit Robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?") 01.03.39 # I'm wondering why that page is still up 01.05.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.15.29 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 01.16.13 Quit bluebrother ("sleep ...") 01.23.45 # <_Dorian> just wondering what you guys thing of including a small podcast patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7111 01.36.55 # How about adding that wikipedia plugin. mates? :/ 01.43.11 Quit Xerion (" ") 01.47.22 Join lymeca [0] (n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca) 01.47.49 # So I installed Rockbox on my 4th gen iPod and I love it. But if I understand correctly, I'm still using the non-free Apple boot loader. 01.48.22 # While Apple's firmware has been supplanted by Rockbox, the device is still relying on APple's boot loader to function properly. Is this correct? 01.49.20 # Yes 01.49.34 # Rockbox doesn't mess with the in-flash images at all, at this time 01.51.53 Quit chrisjs169|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.52.53 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 01.52.53 Quit Ryuu (Client Quit) 01.52.57 # amiconn: my ipod has run for 3.5 hours with the extra usleep 01.53.45 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 01.54.15 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.54.16 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 01.56.14 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.57.18 Join chrisjs169|afk [0] (n=jack@c-68-33-114-53.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 01.58.10 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-219-42.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 01.59.34 # 3 hours plus here, but on the nano 02.02.29 Quit obo ("bye") 02.03.12 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 02.05.40 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 02.06.29 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 02.11.31 Quit spiorf_ ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 02.17.47 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-187-229.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 02.21.18 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 02.23.00 Join HellDragon [0] (n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 02.29.39 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.30.37 Join Hilikus [0] (n=rockero@bas4-montreal19-1242420339.dsl.bell.ca) 02.34.44 # Bagder: here ? 02.39.36 Quit relaxed ("http://www.zsnes.com/") 02.42.06 # hey guys 02.42.15 # is there a way to change the resolution of the volume? 02.45.59 # too fine or too coarse? 02.46.54 # * scorche doubts too coarse 02.49.00 # too fine 02.49.30 # too many clicks to make a significant change 02.50.20 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@pool-70-107-148-17.ny325.east.verizon.net) 02.52.28 Join valis [0] (n=valis@c-67-166-55-131.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.52.57 # are lockups on the iaudio X5 normal? I bought a refurbished and I want to make sure it's not dead. 02.53.59 # ive had only a couple of lockups 02.55.03 # so no way to change the volume resolution? 02.56.22 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.56.52 Topic "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines | Go to #rockbox-community for offtopic chat | Always remember: Rockbox = BOS" by scorche (i=HydraIRC@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.57.03 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 03.00.10 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.04.31 Join hax [0] (n=hax@web.atl.citynetwireless.net) 03.05.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.06 Join z35 [0] (n=z@adsl-35-190-123.dab.bellsouth.net) 03.08.12 Quit entheh ("^~") 03.15.07 # So am I just stupid or has skinning not been fully implemented on the iaudio? My display only seems to show the backdrop. 03.15.12 Part Hilikus 03.15.25 # you are likely trying to use a broken theme 03.15.29 # valis, sounds like a broken theme 03.17.23 # do you know of a theme that for sure isn't broken so I could test? 03.18.31 Join CoolCubix [0] (n=coolcubi@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-15-154.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.18.38 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.18.44 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.19.56 # Would it be possible I have an old copy of the rockbox firmware? 03.20.37 # of course. 03.20.52 # why not install the newest version? downloading it takes longer than updating :P 03.22.36 # any advantage to grabbing the latest source? 03.22.46 Quit CoolCubix (Client Quit) 03.22.54 # besides loads of bugfixes, speedups, and a few new features? 03.23.06 # cool, thanks 03.23.12 Join CoolCubix [0] (n=coolcubi@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-15-154.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.24.26 Join relaxed [0] (n=relaxed@unaffiliated/relaxed) 03.28.35 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.39.22 Quit Galois (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.40.48 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 03.41.20 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) 03.46.53 Part pixelma 03.53.28 Quit tchan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.54.08 Quit thegeek () 03.54.39 # yo 03.55.04 # whats good 03.56.13 # rockbox is good. 03.56.46 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 03.56.48 # also steak 03.59.43 Quit DC1 ("$4E75") 03.59.53 # anyone know how to make md5sum or sha1sum ONLY output the sum, and not the filename? 04.01.15 # you could pipe it through awk 04.01.43 # which is...? 04.01.49 # a command line tool? 04.01.58 # i know... but what does it DO? 04.01.59 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 04.02.08 # cat filename | sha1sum - | awk '{print substr($1, 0)}' 04.02.11 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.02.13 # I think 04.02.16 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 04.02.22 # oo 04.02.26 # that may do it 04.02.37 # i just did md5sum file|awk '{print $1}' 04.02.48 # o 04.02.55 # well that may be better, lol 04.03.44 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.04.06 # worked, thanks 04.04.47 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 04.04.48 # i just had md5sum a|grep -o '^[a-zA-Z0-9]*' 04.05.09 # no no... that'd do the whole line, right? 04.05.21 # yeah 04.08.21 # um... would rockbox.zip have a different sum every time it's made, if given the exact same circumstances both times? 04.08.46 # it shouldn't 04.08.47 # does zip have timestamp? 04.09.20 # aah. timestamp would screw it up. i think it may. 04.09.20 # sarixe> yeah, the only thing which could change is a timestamp inside the zip or in the zip headers-and-so 04.09.35 # the CONTENTS should have the same md5sums though. 04.09.42 # i just checked, and no 04.10.06 # it could be something in my script i'm writing 04.11.48 # it's a bash script... but running a simple "if [ -e rockbox.zip ]" wouldn't change it, right? 04.12.24 # no, since it doesn't do anything, even not read it 04.12.36 # right... 04.16.35 # someone want to check over the script to make sure it's not doing something weird that i'm not seeing? 04.16.44 # i'll pastebin it 04.19.08 # if pastebin responds soon... 04.19.31 Quit valis ("WeeChat 0.2.5") 04.20.17 # http://pastebin.ca/606761 04.22.44 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.23.02 # sarixe, er, don't you need to add the build directory, run the configure script? 04.23.13 # i already ran the configure script 04.23.16 # markun: Request for Gigabeat - When the hold button is on, the button LEDs don't activate when the remote is used. 04.23.23 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.23.32 # sarixe, ooh, i see what you're doing. mkay 04.23.39 # and i'm writing this for cron, so i won't be able to add input anyway 04.23.55 # if configure didn't need input, i'd include it 04.24.37 # gotcha. 04.24.41 # looks like it SHOULD work. 04.24.48 # i don't see anything that pops out as bad 04.25.21 # ya know... i actually went through it by hand 04.25.31 # and it gave me a new md5sum 04.25.36 # i must be doing something wrong 04.26.15 # how often are you running this? 04.26.23 # i'm planning on running it hourly 04.26.36 # but every time i've tested it, it gives me a new md5sum 04.26.55 # ah. thus the need for the md5summing 04.27.05 # i doubt there are THAT many changes to the svn, or are there? 04.27.19 # either way, i don't get any new files from the svn checkout command 04.27.33 # just "Checked out revision 13808." 04.27.44 # sarixe> wait 04.27.51 # mm? 04.27.53 # doesn't svn play with $id$ things ? 04.28.00 # i have no clue 04.28.04 # hmm 04.28.15 # as i said before (maybe you weren't around), i'm a newb to svn 04.28.26 # so am i 04.28.44 # either way, make doesn't do anything new either 04.28.44 # sarixe, zip preserves file creation timestamps 04.29.03 # krazykit : but if i do it all minus the svn, then i get identical md5 04.29.18 # oh, that's strange then. 04.29.25 # yesterday i've read an article about how to not bother a maintainer, and one thing was not to play with those $id$ tags which are managed by the svn client itself 04.29.46 # maybe they change any time you checkup ? 04.29.52 # oh wait... 04.29.53 # no 04.29.55 # nevermind 04.30.09 # lol, i just made zip again, and it gave me a different md5sum 04.30.19 # yep. timestamps i bet. 04.30.25 # any way to get around thata? 04.30.28 # -a 04.30.28 # there may be a no-preserve option 04.30.39 # where would i put that though...? 04.30.39 # for the zip 04.30.50 # you'd have to edit the Makefile, of course 04.30.56 # gah... 04.31.11 # but i'm not SURE that would work, really. there may be other junk happening. 04.31.21 # but that's a start 04.32.14 # um... is there another file that would change every time the svn is updated? 04.32.15 # like 04.32.25 # say i checkout on the svn, and make 04.32.32 # you could md5 the make? 04.32.39 # the only thing is if there's a revision file 04.32.48 # hm 04.32.52 # where'd that be, i wonder? 04.32.53 # -X option of zip ? 04.33.10 # sarixe, probably in /rockbox/.svn somewhere 04.33.13 # -X Do not save extra file attributes (Extended Attributes on OS/2, uid/gid and file times on Unix). 04.33.15 # man zip 04.33.24 # dunno if it does the trick 04.33.54 # YAY 04.33.57 # wow, if i can use something like that, then it'll get rid of half the script's complexity 04.34.06 # it works for me 04.34.11 # brb 04.34.19 # actually, the Makefile seems to call buildzip.pl, if i'm reading it right 04.34.25 # i suck at make, though. 04.35.27 Join PaulD [0] (n=pantspat@121-73-21-131.cable.telstraclear.net) 04.35.42 Quit Llorean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.40 # <_Dorian> wondering if you guys thing to including a small podcast patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7111 04.36.51 # sarixe, i wonder if you edit tools/buildzip.pl on line 13 to "zip -X" if stuff will break 04.37.03 # back 04.37.13 # i'll try it 04.37.16 # sarixe, which means you'd need a little patch each time you updated svn, but that MIGHT do the trick 04.37.35 # krazykit> let's hope there are no timestamp except the zipfile's one 04.37.40 # i mean, in svn 04.38.01 # CoolCubix, any of that SHOULDN'T be built into the zip if the revision hasn't changed. 04.38.02 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 04.38.30 # krazykit> great, so it should work :) 04.39.13 # even if it has been changed, right? 04.39.21 # it should just overwrite old files, no? 04.40.04 # sarixe> no, internal svn timestamps could be build into the zip 04.40.17 # but you don't care since it means it's a new revision 04.40.41 # could or are? 04.41.04 # i'm not experienced enough with svn to answer this :( 04.41.11 # lol 04.41.14 # but anyway 04.41.15 # if there's been a revision, it means the code has changed 04.41.23 # thus your build will have a different md5 04.41.25 # i wouldn't say there would be a timestamp or anything 04.41.40 # but either way, if the revision changes, my script does what it should 04.41.49 # yes 04.42.04 # hm i'm wondering about somthing 04.42.39 # to determine if the revision has changed, your base is to look at the md5sum of the zipfile 04.42.47 # i'm trying to compile a ipod video bootloader, but it doesn't seem to be working. the make completes and created the bootloader files, but when i try to install the bootloader it doesn't work, it just loads the apple firmware. could someone help me? 04.42.49 Quit _Dorian ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 04.43.04 # couldn't be more economical to look at an svn intenal file which could hold the actual revision number ? 04.43.13 # yes, but i don't know where that is 04.43.17 # CoolCubix, probably, but this is more fun 04.43.23 # of course 04.43.25 # warms his house more too 04.43.25 # then you wouldn't be obliged to zip the whole rockbox thing 04.43.45 # sarixe> it's worth looking into svn internal files, i think 04.44.07 # CoolCubix : my script builds the latest rockbox automatically, and in case it's a new one, keeps it. 04.44.20 # as in: 04.44.25 # just grep rockbox/ recursively for 04.44.29 # it assumes the default ouput is rockbox.zip 04.44.41 # copies it 04.44.44 # sarixe> but if it ain't a new one you'd just zip everything for nothing 04.44.53 # oh sarixe 04.44.53 # i don't understand that 04.44.55 # heh 04.45.01 # lol 04.45.14 # rockbox/.svn/entries line 4. the revision is right there 04.45.24 # lol 04.45.25 # ok 04.45.31 # hm-m ^^ 04.45.36 # i'll write another script for that... compare them 04.45.36 # but then how do you compare from last time? 04.45.36 # lol 04.45.42 # that's the trick. 04.45.59 # and even not for economical purposes, it's just cleaner that way, i think 04.46.05 # copy entries to entries-backup, checkout svn, compare entries and entries-backup 04.46.06 # (i _think_) 04.46.15 # yeah, it is 04.46.22 # i'll finish this one first though 04.46.29 # hey sarixe you know 04.46.40 # mm? 04.46.44 # you can still check your md5sum 04.46.52 # include the two verification methods 04.47.08 # first check for the svn "entries" file 04.47.24 # if the revision has changed (at least it looks like it has changed) 04.47.30 # you zip the stuff 04.47.40 # and you still compare the md5sum with the old zipfile 04.47.47 # that's even more complicated... 04.48.14 # hmpf, not at all ^^ 04.48.29 # meh 04.48.31 # i'll see 04.51.13 # -X isn't what i want 04.51.33 # really ? 04.51.38 # yup 04.51.49 # it still gives different checksums ? 04.52.05 # 1> didn't work, 2> i read about it, and it's not what you thought it was 04.52.27 Part PaulD 04.52.30 # then svn checkout file it is! 04.52.31 # lol 05.01.43 Part Llorean 05.03.54 # http://pastebin.ca/606794 05.05.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.06.23 # sarixe, you could md5sum the file, store that in a variable (i think you can do that in bash), then update instead of backing it up 05.06.26 # your way works too though 05.06.45 # no, it doesn't 05.06.54 # no? 05.06.56 # that file gets timestamps from svn 05.07.01 # you need the 4th line 05.07.05 # bleh 05.07.05 # ok 05.07.10 # don't recall how to do that 05.07.15 # awk should do it though, somehow 05.07.19 # hm 05.07.41 # i'm no awk wizard. 05.07.47 # well lemme test this 05.07.55 # or look at that file 05.08.05 # yeah, timestampe 05.08.07 # -e 05.08.37 # hey, im trying to permantly flash my h120, what do i need to do with the bootloader.iriver the wiki isnt clear 05.09.02 # oh never mind 05.10.11 Join UNKNOWNFILE [0] (n=asshole@unaffiliated/unknownfile) 05.10.14 # krazykit : what about line 11? 05.10.21 # that should work too 05.10.33 # is there a difference? 05.10.38 # not afaik 05.10.40 # ok 05.11.52 # now just to get a program that'll extract a line 05.15.41 # oh wow the chart was cleaned up a bit on the build page 05.16.47 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 05.22.26 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-230.home1.cgocable.net) 05.23.37 # damn the h120 boots fast with it flashed to rom 05.44.24 Join valis [0] (n=valis@c-67-166-55-131.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.52.02 # what version of gcc and friends is this built with? The switch -m5249 gives an error. 05.52.51 Part chrisjs169|afk 05.56.09 # GOT IT 05.56.10 # ok 05.56.16 # lemme make sure it works 05.56.20 # then i'll pastebin it 05.56.39 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.56.50 # actually, a few more things to do 05.57.43 # this isn't ready for cron 05.57.47 # it has sudo commands... 06.03.11 # yikes 06.03.13 # like what? 06.03.29 # nah, i was able to get rid of them by changing some file permissions 06.03.43 # that of "entries", for one 06.03.54 # that's good 06.06.13 # ok, it's done 06.06.48 Join chrisjs169|afk [0] (n=jack@c-68-33-114-53.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 06.07.46 # http://pastebin.ca/606847 06.10.10 # sarixe, grep " 4" gets you the 4th line, eh? 06.10.16 # yup 06.10.25 # that's how cat puts it, anyway 06.10.39 # cat -n, gives the file with line numbers 06.10.47 # ah 06.10.50 # clever. 06.11.07 # :D 06.11.59 Quit Soap_ () 06.12.02 # hm, that's a pretty clever script 06.12.14 # haha, and to think, i just learned scripting tonight 06.12.20 # it'd be better if it didn't require bash :P 06.12.25 # /bin/sh 06.12.30 # well 06.12.37 # it doesn't really require bash 06.12.38 # though i don't think it has anything bash-specific 06.12.41 # just that's my shell of choice 06.12.48 # i like zsh, myself 06.13.12 # never used it 06.13.19 # actually, only ever used sh and bash 06.13.21 # but i have /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash 06.13.30 # what distro do you run? 06.13.34 # ubuntu 06.13.45 # i think they link /bin/sh to /bin/bash. 06.13.54 # nope 06.14.00 # yeah they do 06.14.17 # no 06.14.18 # dash 06.14.30 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 06.14.37 # Hrm, actually... my distro links it to bash. 06.14.40 # what distro are you on, krazykit ? 06.14.44 # debian sid 06.14.48 # ah 06.14.53 # so i'm obligated to hate ubuntu ;-) 06.14.57 # lol 06.15.05 # i've always wanted to try slackware 06.15.12 # i should repartition and make room for it 06.15.13 # lol 06.15.16 # bleh, yeah, if you like 1995 06.15.19 # lol 06.15.34 # slack is ok, but you may as well use a bsd, really. 06.16.03 # the lack of any package manager is a real downside to slackware, imo. 06.16.04 # lol 06.16.10 # mm 06.16.17 # others would say it's the upside 06.16.47 # you start to fall into dependency hell without one. it can be a mess. 06.16.48 # but really, gentoo had it right 06.17.04 # emerge, with building everything in order to install 06.17.07 # except the whole "compile every goddam thing" part. 06.17.10 # no bin downloads 06.17.15 # there are binaries. 06.17.18 # well 06.17.22 # firefox, openoffice, etc. 06.17.32 # true 06.17.38 # i've tried it. it's miserable to wait. 06.17.42 # actually, yeah, it was annoying compiling everything 06.17.49 # i waited all night to get thunderbird 06.17.54 # but it ran FAST 06.17.55 # lol 06.17.58 # bullshit 06.18.06 # yeah, you got me 06.18.16 # gentoo wasn't really good 06.18.16 # lol 06.18.18 # portage_binhost 06.18.24 # oo 06.18.27 # they strip a lot of CFLAGS for firefox and thunderbird and oo.o 06.18.35 # drifting 06.18.41 # yes indeed. 06.19.10 # it's bedtime anyway, after i load my fresh build 06.20.06 # alright, ttyl 06.20.13 # that'll be a new revision, then? 06.20.48 # no, no, load my build onto my player 06.20.53 # o 06.21.16 # well, now to load this script into cron 06.21.19 # i know enough C to manually patch stuff and fix some minor problems 06.21.28 # watch this: 06.21.30 # CRON! 06.21.41 # YES SIR! 06.21.46 # YOU MAY FIRE WHEN READY! 06.21.53 # AYE, CAP'N! 06.22.07 # wow, i suck at life 06.22.43 # you managed to hack together a pretty good script to build rockbox hourly. 06.22.46 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.25.18 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-194-65.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 06.26.23 # iaudio's coldfire 5249 right? 06.29.45 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 06.35.40 # does the sort by album artist also sort it by artist ie Album artist: Various artist . Artist: ZZ., would it sort under various artist and under ZZ as well? 06.36.16 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 06.39.06 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-24-129-94-172.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 06.40.41 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-227-126.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 06.41.14 Quit relaxed ("http://www.zsnes.com/") 06.45.58 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5CC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.50.58 Part UNKNOWNFILE 06.55.40 # does only gcc 4.3.0 support -mcpu for 68k? 06.56.45 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-351703e276caac61) 06.58.32 # valis: Which iaudio are you talking about? M3 or X5? 06.58.40 # x5 06.58.50 # Then it's got a 5250 06.59.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioX5HardwareComponents 06.59.26 # thanks 07.00.14 # I'm trying to build rockbox from source but the Makefile config produces is bad so I mostly fixed it but need to pass -mcpu to get 5250 it seems. Am I wrong? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 09.13.22 # * amiconn found an interesting chinese forum post with a list of cpu types in various daps 09.13.37 # http://www.iriverhk.com/community/forum_detail.asp?id=65638&RoomID=1 google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iriverhk.com%2Fcommunity%2Fforum_detail.asp%3Fid%3D65638%26RoomID%3D1&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF8 09.14.34 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 09.16.22 # wow...nice list 09.17.43 # the PP in the 2nd gen mini has USB host... 09.21.50 Join bluebrother [0] (i=rPcNFqYn@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 09.22.24 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 09.22.27 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.22.51 # I also found a thai forum with info about many daps, but no online translator :( At least some info is in english. http://www.thai-audiofile.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113 09.26.11 # hmm. What do you guys think about FS#7411 -- buildin manual? 09.26.17 # * bluebrother wants to reject this 09.32.06 # * GodEater_ thinks it should be rejected too 09.32.19 # Isn't there a "not now" or "later" option? 09.32.31 # there is -- but what's the point? 09.32.33 # The HTML manual should be usable with the HTML viewer thingy that's in some other task, I imagine. 09.32.45 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 09.32.45 # a html viewer will do, and we have a request for that. 09.32.49 # Llorean: havent seen you round these parts lately 09.33.11 # scorche: I've not been around much, aye. 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I tested up to 2nd july build and that ok ip0od has been running for about 4 hours no stop without any probs. 13.29.33 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-235-47.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net) 13.29.51 # davina: Get the latest svn build. Problem has been identified and fixed. 13.30.04 # ah wicked thx amiconn 13.30.15 # what was it in the end? 13.31.58 # * davina reads up about pp5024 reporting as pp5022c. thats what my ipod says in the debug 13.34.16 # Yes, and the ipod video's chip is labeled PP5021 and also reports as PP5022C 13.35.53 # so thats just the hardware being silly and not rockbox, making coding rather awkward i guess 13.36.55 # It's just a liitle additional (and intentional?) confusion by PortalPlayer 13.38.07 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@cpc1-flee2-0-0-cust583.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 13.38.32 # * stripwax tries out nintendo ds irc client! 13.38.37 # well its cool that you fixed it so quickly. i'd love to be able to contribute with the code somehow, but my C is not brill and the last time i tried to download everything and make a build environment it all went a bit wrong and i ended up reinstalling ubuntu lol 13.38.37 # hello! 13.39.02 # ds irc client? 13.39.06 # couple playlist issues on ipod 13.39.25 # 1. if playback is stopped, can't reshuffle 13.39.56 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.39.58 # 2. saving playlist is slow because screen is updated every 10 tracks saved! 13.40.21 # davina - yep! part of DSOrganise homebrew 13.40.28 Join pseudo_ [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-197-8.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) 13.40.29 # ah no keyboard in the ds 13.40.32 # oooooh 13.40.37 # must go looksee 13.41.05 # 3. can't stop saving because play/pause ignored - and holding down just turns ipod off! 13.41.48 # Create Playlist from main menu is wicked fast - save current playlist should be too 13.42.57 # but saving is faster if not rebuffering - but 1 means that's not easy 13.42.58 # stripwax: what about a bug report? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 13.43.02 # i never bother with playlists, mostly i just put the whole lot on shuffle. so far i have just over 4000 tracks so its never a dull listen 13.43.20 # on DS at mo, no web access sorry 13.43.52 # davina - how do you put the whole lot on shuffle w/o playlist? 13.44.20 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 13.44.22 # when you add new music to device how do you 'shuffle them in' w/o playlist 13.44.41 # i think if i could i would 13.46.17 # stripwax, just goto database->tracks-> select a track and it loads up the dynamic playlist. takes a few seconds to do it but i tend to leave it on that mostly 13.46.47 # dynamic playlist contain all tracks? 13.46.56 # containing 13.47.00 # if iadd more music which i will be doing as i am going thru my cd collection right now, i just do the same process again 13.47.03 # if so, neat 13.47.32 # but won't the tracks change when you add more music? 13.47.56 # yeah i just use the database mostly. if i want to play a particular artist i do the same and it shuffles all the artists' tracks too 13.48.34 # i mean, if I've listened to tack Foo, then load more musiconto device and get the new random playlist, isn't there a chance i'll hear Foo again? 13.48.41 Quit printfXh4 (No route to host) 13.48.48 # track 13.49.05 Quit stripwax ("DSOrganize IRC") 13.49.07 # oh yeah there is a chance u could get the same song more than once if u reload the dynamic playlist but the more songs u get the less likely. besides the most i get to listen to in one go is maybe only 30-40mins as i drive to work 13.49.59 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@cpc1-flee2-0-0-cust583.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 13.50.02 # gah 13.50.15 # what happened 13.50.17 # oh yeah there is a chance u could get the same song more than once if u reload the dynamic playlist but the more songs u get the less likely. besides the most i get to listen to in one go is maybe only 30-40mins as i drive to work 13.50.24 # u logged out 13.50.37 # stripwax: you can use the "never played tracks" entry to hear only new tracks 13.50.40 # looks like i got kicked 13.50.52 # stripwax: you quit 13.50.54 # Slasheri - ooh, nice 13.51.23 # client said i was kicked because i didn't have a registered nick 13.51.50 # weird.. from here it didn't look like that: 13.51.54 # 14:49 -!- stripwax [n=stripwax@cpc1-flee2-0-0-cust583.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["DSOrganize IRC"] 13.52.32 # Slasheri - actually that's not really what i want. i don't want to hear only new tracks, i want to shuffle them in 13.53.10 # alongside my already shuffled playlist containing tracks that may well have been played at some point before 13.53.17 # hmm.. then just go to never played tracks entry, hold down select on that to get context menu and use insert shuffled 13.53.35 # oh, or "recently added tracks" 13.53.38 # a stable shuffle, that includes new music, basically 13.54.21 # 'all tracks' but without changing the history of what i've already listened to in this playlist 13.54.40 # hmm.. that might be difficult 13.55.05 # i could just manually insert them randomly myself but, you know, ... 13.55.37 # rockbox knows what's recently added. would it really be that hard? 13.56.07 # (menu function to do it - doesn't have to be seamless) 13.56.32 # I think "insert shuffled" will shuffle them in after the currently playing song, so you shouldn't lose the history 13.56.36 # surely it can be possible.. but i have no idea yet how to implement that 13.56.57 # but haven't tried myself lately 13.57.08 # pixelma but that's manual 13.57.26 # i'd have to browse myself to the music i added 13.57.27 # and db also keeps the history of in which order tracks have been played 13.58.18 # "insert recently added tracks shuffled" would do the trick 13.58.30 # stripwax: just modify the tag browser entry "recently added tracks" to show only the latest tracks and then "insert shuffled" that whole entry manually 13.58.36 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.58.54 # Slasheri - nifty! 13.59.22 Quit pseudo_ (No route to host) 13.59.27 # btw. there's someone using the nick "stripwax" around here - at least I believe it's someone else. I guess he's registered... 13.59.33 # not sure what's distinction between 'recently added' and 'latest' ? 13.59.46 # it's always and only me 13.59.50 # i am he 14.00.13 # spelling worse today due to touchscreen 14.00.14 # ok 14.00.20 # recently added is currently configured to show tracks from the latest 3 pc uploads or so 14.00.33 # * davina installs latest build 14.00.38 # cool. sounds ideal starting point! 14.00.40 # you might want to modify the tagnavi configuration file to show only the latest commit 14.01.03 # many thanks Slasheri - sounds exactly what i need 14.01.08 # :) 14.01.23 # rockbox never ceases to amaze me in its brilliance 14.01.59 # and on that note - lunchtime 14.02.05 # thanks all! 14.02.26 # davina - irc seems usable enough..! :) 14.02.39 # * stripwax closes the lid... 14.10.05 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.18.04 Join kubiixaka [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 14.18.06 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-221-230.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net) 14.20.49 Quit printfXh4 (Client Quit) 14.22.47 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.32.55 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 14.34.58 Part pixelma 14.37.09 Quit kubiix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.37.24 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.48.56 Join MySic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 14.52.55 Join Jeton [0] (i=551e5ad4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7f3ff05bf54d3e1a) 14.53.07 Join |desowin| [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.53.33 Quit desowin (No route to host) 14.54.12 Quit Jeton (Client Quit) 14.54.37 # latetest build seems to be running fine thx amiconn 14.57.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 14.57.46 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 14.59.15 Join stripwax [0] (i=5607d648@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-da59591b46f30236) 14.59.19 # heyho 15.00.22 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0134.fh-trier.de) 15.02.25 # me adds his earlier bugs to bug tracker 15.02.32 # * stripwax gahs 15.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.06.49 # * stripwax looks at topic 15.06.53 # what is BOS? 15.07.08 # * petur points to golden quotes in wiki 15.07.13 # * stripwax looks 15.08.49 # tip: the first quote on that page? 15.09.55 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3063.gwdg.de) 15.09.59 # ah, yeah, gotcha. ABOS would make more sense but yeah. 15.10.08 # * stripwax giggles at the rest of the quotes. genius. 15.10.15 Join Crash91 [0] (n=crash@196.219.185.25) 15.11.23 # isn't "Rockbox = BOS" a little bit too general? i mean surely it sounds like one, but it looks more like a piece of crap than a bag of shit. 15.12.27 # iirc, that user had troubles with his settings and had the EQ set up in a way that everything was distorting... 15.14.58 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 15.15.15 # 0xba90f517 ;) 15.15.25 # hi Nico_P 15.15.38 # hi 15.15.55 # I know why your gigabeat refused to data abort - the code I pointed you to is only executed in the bootloader... 15.16.23 # seems like a POC, sounds like a BOS 15.16.25 # But I don't think this bit should be set in the bootloader, as it might confuse the OF 15.16.46 # Or maybe it's only executed after deciding to boot rockbox? 15.16.47 # amiconn: so what do you advise me ? recompile a bootloader with the change ? 15.16.50 Quit kubiixaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.16.58 Join kubiixaka [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 15.17.05 # I really don't know, maybe markun does 15.17.25 # Otherwise it should be fairly simple to set this bit somewhere in rockbox startup 15.17.38 # ok, bugs added, 7412 and 7413 15.18.09 # amiconn: I think I'd prefer it to be set somewhere in rockbox startup 15.18.47 # not compiling a new bootloader sounds better :) 15.19.05 # does anyone have/ know a copy of the rockbox logo in .svg? 15.19.43 # Can the gigabeat be recovered when a faulty bootloader got installed? 15.19.57 # Crash91: Check svn, it's there 15.20.07 # ok 15.20.09 # (for the manual) 15.20.29 # amiconn: yes it can, by loading the OF and then using it to install a correct bootloader 15.20.48 # or in case of complete failure there's a procedure involving opening the gigabeat 15.22.42 Quit stripwax ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.23.29 # Bagder: ping 15.25.59 # A bit more difficult than the ipods or iaudios, but still... 15.26.31 # The irivers are afaik the most 'dangerous' targets when it comes to bootloader installation 15.26.57 Quit MySic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.27.03 # (H1x0/H300) 15.30.18 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 15.32.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp132-220.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.34.01 Quit kubiix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.34.42 # What are the chances of FS#7345 making it to SVN? 15.38.00 # I think it will make it ;) 15.39.12 # maybe it isn't 100% compatible with the idea of putting all gfx in one bmp - otoh I don't know if that idea wass killed or still on the table 15.44.41 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.45.05 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5CC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.45.17 # I like FS#7345 a lot 15.45.24 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=TrueJour@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.45.36 # I think it's complementary with the partial bitmaps patch 15.46.02 # (FS#7289) 15.46.10 # I'd like to commit them both eventually 15.47.09 # petur: I think all pictures in one bitmap is too much of a hassle for WPS designers 15.48.11 # anyway I think the main point of the idea was to speed up loading of WPSs and IIRC the WPS tokenizer sped up the loading 15.48.19 # ok 15.49.06 # well we can still do the 'all files in one tar/zip/whatever' 15.50.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 15.50.31 # there's a patch in the tracker for that, but linuxstb and I decided the benefits weren't really worth the extra complexity 15.50.47 # so we kinda dropped it 15.50.52 # ok 15.54.38 # Nico_P: try maybe the mailling list for see if is there people against the idea 15.55.33 # moos: I'll probably do that once I decide to seriously review the patches and commit them, but for now I'm focusing on my SoC :) 15.56.25 # but the general feeling seems to be favorable 15.56.34 # hehe :) 15.56.57 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 15.56.58 # ask amicoon for see if he is ;p 15.57.09 # due amiconn; sorry 15.58.08 # Nico_P: how goes your MOB works? 15.58.29 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@70.135.33.237) 15.58.39 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484862B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.58.47 # I have the buffering API pretty much implemented 15.59.05 # ATM I'm adding a bit of threading to test 15.59.07 # nice start! did you reuse JdGoedon works? 15.59.22 # JdGordon 15.59.34 # i've got problems with nicks today apparently :) 15.59.42 # not really because when I started I only had his first version which he said didn't work 15.59.52 # ah ok 16.00.00 # so I looked at it a bit but choose to go with a different implementation 16.00.13 # finally we both worked on the same one 16.00.20 # hehe :) 16.00.24 # the code is available if you want to take a look 16.00.34 # link? 16.00.55 # Nico_P: maybe this idea is a little bit naive, but wouldn't it be possible to just dump the contents of the area in memory where the bitmaps are stored to a file when loading the WPS and then on startup just copy the contents of the file to the memory instead of loading all the wps bitmaps? 16.00.59 # it's in JdGordon's SVN: svn://jdgordon.mine.nu/mob 16.01.18 # I remenber the new API proposal wiki page. Do you still use it and keep it in sync? 16.01.45 # moos: it's largely unchanged but Jd added the link to his repo 16.02.05 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.02.07 # and we stayed very close to what the page said anyway 16.02.22 # oki 16.03.19 # PaulJam: that's very close to what was suggested at one point about whole WPSs... store the tokenized output in a binary file and just load that. I think we finally agreed it wasn't worth the complexity 16.03.37 # ok 16.03.48 # (the binary file would've probably included the bitmaps too) 16.04.13 Quit petur ("shopping") 16.04.30 # if you want to read the debate, a search on "compiled WPS" or "binary blob" should give interesting results 16.04.57 # it was around when the tokenizer was added 16.07.55 # i think i found it 16.08.30 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.09.19 Join belze_ [0] (i=nifty@dslb-088-073-245-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.13.06 Join stripwax [0] (i=5607d648@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-a6ec9b590559dd00) 16.17.30 # anyone taken a look at bitmap sliding puzzle recently? 16.17.49 # patch 7218 16.18.57 Quit |desowin| ("use linux") 16.22.08 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 16.28.49 # can someone tell me the difference between queue_send and queue_post ? 16.30.22 # moos: looked at the code ? 16.30.46 # how much truth is there in the following: related data arrays should be interleaved to avoid cache thrashing 16.31.13 # is it because code like "a = array1[x]; b = array2[x]" will preload a number of bytes from both array1 and array2? 16.31.31 # * stripwax has been reading some interesting (to him) intel docs on optimising for embedded cpus 16.32.45 # whereas mystruct = mystructarray[x]; mystruct.a ; mystruct.b will preload a bunch of the data in the right order (interleaved effectively) 16.33.26 # * Nico_P has no idea what stripwax is talking about 16.35.09 # thinking, if you loop over two arrays , you end up using the cache less efficiently than if you loop of one array containing (pairs of) data interleaved 16.35.20 # and wondering if there's any truth in that. hang on, i'll see if i can find the article 16.35.26 # ah I see 16.35.38 # * stripwax was looking at rockbox vorbis coupling.c for example 16.35.50 # well it seems quite obvious that reading the memory sequentially is better than skipping everywhere 16.36.03 # er mapping0.c not coupling.c 16.36.39 Quit PaulJam (".") 16.36.45 # Nico_P- but is reading two things (sequentially) less efficient than reading one (twice as large) thing sequentially 16.37.37 # probably not, but I'm no expert 16.39.27 # stripwax, yes as you have to issue two reads which will slow down i/o 16.40.15 # also depends on how much you are reading in one go 16.41.44 Quit TrueJournals ("Leaving.") 16.42.27 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3155.gwdg.de) 16.45.47 # davina - makes sense. so would be worth taking a look at interleaving the magnitude and angle arrays in the vorbis code? 16.46.08 # * stripwax will take a look anyway. maybe that's not even inner loop stuff 16.46.59 Join Rhinos [0] (i=acb777cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c02f56ce3ef6a758) 16.47.49 # hello anyone here 16.48.14 # hello 16.50.48 # is there any rockbox tool for iPod nano 2nd generation? 16.51.58 # Rhinos, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6518.0 16.52.03 # they're working on that. 16.52.36 # ok i gonna check it out 16.52.57 # articles: http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199900652 16.53.47 # http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199902866 16.54.07 # suspect large portions of the latter are dubious as best tho 16.56.12 # oh and here's the one that suggests interleaving http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199904931 16.56.19 Quit darkless (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 16.56.35 # Crash91: - hello 16.56.40 # * stripwax goes and reads 16.57.01 # stripwax: hello, do i know you? :) 16.58.09 # * Crash91 goes and starts making wpss 16.58.57 # * stripwax thought we were just all saying hello 17.00.45 # cant find any special, because I'M looking for how to but a cool thems (style) and Video for my ipod nano 2nd generation 17.01.11 # Rhinos, the 2nd gen is currently unsupported. 17.01.17 # but they're working on it 17.01.33 # already linked the forum topic, too. 17.02.59 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 17.04.02 # so no chance for it to make a different style 17.04.08 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 17.04.12 # an build a video 17.05.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.34 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.07.50 # Rhinos, not yet, anyway. 17.09.15 Join TrueJournals [0] (n=TrueJour@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.09.56 Quit Rhinos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.11.35 Quit TrueJournals ("Leaving.") 17.13.05 # can the uisimulator simulate main and remote hold switches? 17.13.31 # What is the purpose of an "Advanced" build? 17.13.37 # Nico_P: Did you work out your memmove/move_handle issue? 17.13.53 # pondlife: no 17.13.54 # Crash91: It lets you select debug and logging options. 17.14.00 # I'm wroking on threads right now 17.14.10 # Ok 17.14.31 # I've still not looked at it, but is memmove needed? Is an overlap possible? 17.14.47 # I think it is 17.14.56 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 17.14.59 # OK, just a though 17.15.41 # t 17.16.23 # Nico_P: Did anyone answer your queue_... question? 17.16.29 # no :( 17.17.21 # I suspect that one call blocks until the queue is read (and might offer a return value), the other just queues. But that's just a suspicion ! 17.17.25 # looks like queue_send somehow assures that the message has been received when it returns 17.17.46 # Yes, that sounds about right. 17.18.26 # what I was doing is transform the buf* functions so that they post messages to the buffering queue 17.18.28 # Better to use that than have any horrible booleans like playback.c has/had... 17.18.57 # Yes, the API will need to send messages to the buffering thread. 17.19.17 # I'm glad you like it :) 17.19.31 # So buffering.c actually has routines used by 2 threads - the buffering thread and the calling thread. 17.19.36 # so the actual work will be done by functions I named buffering_buf* 17.20.15 # how can the same routines be used by the two threads ? 17.20.18 # I tried to sort through playback.c to separate out audio_../codec_../voice_.. threads... didn't complete it. 17.20.41 # No, the routines are used by only 1 thread.. just that they are all in buffering.c. 17.20.45 # ok 17.20.51 # You have it right. 17.21.10 # what I'm having some trouble with, among other things, is passing the arguments 17.21.28 # ah, found it. h and j are the hold switches. 17.21.41 # because when there is a bufgetdata call (for example), I want to store the arguments in the queue to be able to use them in the actual call 17.29.50 # pondlife: I tried defining structs that hold the call arguments, but it doesn't seem to work 17.30.08 # pondlife: also, how will the calls give return values ? maybe we need callbacks ? 17.30.33 # (I mean the API calls that send messages to the buffering thread) 17.32.43 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.35.42 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@70.135.33.237) 17.38.12 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.45.23 # can the BL on the Sansa charge battery? 17.49.49 Quit stripwax ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.53.24 # Nico_P: You can only pass a pointer to a structure, which is fine for blocking calls where you can be sure the structure contents won't be overwritten too soon. 17.54.13 # pondlife: where should the structure be stored ? 17.54.19 # it should be global ? 17.54.30 # Probably a static in the API routine. 17.55.22 # Or put parameters into the memory handle structure and pass a pointer to that.... but be careful with non-blocking calls. 17.55.54 # can you ellaborate on the bloncking vs non blocking ? I don't really see what you mean 17.56.14 # which calls should be blocking ? 17.56.35 # Some API calls (e.g. bufgetdata) must block - they can't return until the data is ready, so are strictly one at a time. 17.56.49 # But in general you want to return asap. 17.56.51 Quit spiorf_ (Remote closed the connection) 17.57.34 # Beware - I haven't worked it all out though :p 17.57.57 # But I'd think that only bufread/bufgetdata need to block. 17.58.21 # so I should use queue_send for those ? 17.58.33 # and what about the non blocking calls ? how could they return values ? 17.58.54 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@64.49.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 18.00.13 # Hmm... maybe they can only assume all is ok...:/ 18.00.43 # The open will just post, the read will then return an error if the file isn't there.. 18.00.53 # Needs thought (again). 18.02.56 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3063.gwdg.de) 18.03.12 # hmm but bufopen needs to return a handle id 18.03.26 # ...which is given by add_handle 18.06.58 # pondlife: I'll commit what I have so you can see 18.08.36 Quit Beta-guy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.09.35 Join Jon-Kha_ [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.13.00 # pondlife: committed 18.13.26 # did anyone know about #fedora-arm ? 18.13.39 # fedora on the ARM architechture :) 18.14.11 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.15.24 # Crash91, which has what to do with debian? 18.15.39 # er 18.15.42 # dammit 18.15.49 # i should really check what channel i'm in first. 18.15.56 # lol? 18.16.09 # Crash91, a lot of distros have arm ports nowadays 18.16.38 # i know :) i was just checking out the channels, i assume you use ubuntu? 18.16.45 # hell no. 18.17.15 # which distro? I dislike ubuntu myself :p 18.17.22 # debian, naturally :P 18.17.25 # but that's offtopic 18.18.03 # though the linux arm ports don't help much for rockbox. 18.18.28 # rockbox isn't posix compat, as far as i know. the linux kernel doesn't have drivers for any of the hardware, either 18.19.01 Quit pabs (Remote closed the connection) 18.19.06 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 18.19.51 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 18.19.57 # however, the arm stuff IS interesting because you know you could possibly port it to rockbox, and that it'll compile, probably 18.20.41 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.20.57 # does anyone know how to change your password if you are registered? 18.21.29 Nick Crash91 is now known as Cras2 (n=crash@196.219.185.25) 18.22.05 Join TTSbox [0] (n=OzgurOzt@aksu.cse.ohio-state.edu) 18.22.21 Nick Cras2 is now known as Crash91 (n=crash@196.219.185.25) 18.27.40 # Crash91, on freenode? /msg nickserv help should point you in the right direction 18.28.14 # got it, it was /msg NickServ SET password /password/ 18.29.51 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host74-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.31.55 # /connect irc.dark-storm.net 18.32.02 # damn 18.37.43 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 18.39.40 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.40.54 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@64.49.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 18.44.59 # a few days ago, one of you mentioned some of the plugins implements malloc 18.45.04 Quit relaxed ("http://www.zsnes.com/") 18.45.06 # which are they 18.45.10 # ? 18.45.26 # Later I may try to eliminate mallocs in the code I am porting 18.45.39 # but for now I want to have something running earlier 18.45.59 # so I will try to use a malloc implementation 18.46.37 # or maybe you may know a good easy to use malloc implementation elsewhere 18.47.25 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 18.49.56 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3131.gwdg.de) 18.51.23 Part Crash91 18.56.11 # TTSbox: I think it was me... IIRC doom has a malloc implementation 18.56.20 # and I think most codecs have too 18.56.57 # Nico_P: Tremor does at least but I don't think most codecs do 18.57.02 # ah 18.57.33 # Bagder has a simple malloc implementation available somwhere too 18.57.55 # that's actually not just a simple one... 18.58.07 # we should add it to the pluginlib one day 18.58.14 # oh sorry :) 18.58.25 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 18.58.51 # Bagder: I've been wanting to ask you about repo hosting for a few days 18.58.56 # http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/dbestfit/ 18.59.30 # no time right now actually 18.59.48 # catch me in 3-4 hours 19.00.17 # ok 19.00.26 # at least I'll try if I'm here 19.05.27 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 19.06.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.07.44 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.07.56 # Bagder: Thanks for the link 19.11.14 # Bagder: do you have time to explain the difference between queue_post and queue_send to me . 19.11.15 # ? 19.11.57 # and maybe how queue_reply is used 19.17.46 # dan_a: around? 19.18.55 # Hi amiconn 19.19.43 Quit Xerion (" ") 19.20.34 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 19.21.41 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.21.56 Part chrisjs169|afk 19.22.30 Join chrisjs169|afk [0] (n=jack@c-68-33-114-53.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 19.23.13 # amiconn: do you know how the queue_* functions work ? 19.26.24 # dan_a: How's the iPod G3 port coming along? 19.27.01 # Nico_P: Umm, what's the problem with them? They just work... 19.27.37 # amiconn: I think I just found what queue_reply is for... it provides the return value for a queue_send call ? 19.27.39 # amiconn: I'm just starting to look at it again. First task: figure out how the cache flushing works so that we can get dual core working on it 19.28.23 # amiconn: so queue_send blocks until the message is processed, whereas queue_post returns immediately, is that it ? 19.31.20 Nick BHSPitLappy_ is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 19.32.15 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@cpc1-flee2-0-0-cust583.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 19.32.51 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 19.34.32 # Nico_P: Actually I don't know about this new, over-complex stuff. I only ever used queue_post() and queue_wait[_w_tmo]() 19.35.15 # Iirc most of this new stuff was added by jhMikeS 19.35.23 # oh that's why there's nothing about it in the wiki and it's not in the plugin API 19.35.42 # I'll try to find tha svn log about it 19.36.55 # dan_a: How stable is CPU scaling on PP5002? 19.37.04 # jhMikeS: ping 19.37.44 # amiconn: It isn't - I'm tempted to disable it 19.38.36 # dan_a: You could send me an OF dump, and I could have a look how the OF does it 19.39.06 # Don't you also have an H10? (maybe I'm confusing you with s/o else) 19.39.37 # amiconn: I will. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.26.04 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 20.29.01 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.29.04 # !pcw 20.29.10 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 20.29.37 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 20.33.38 # would it be possible to turn the irivers line-out into a "real" line-out where volume-/tone-settings dont have any effect? 20.38.55 # ah, i see this is a limitation of the UDA1380 20.47.23 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.51.33 # Suicide_Guy: png is neither recommended nor supported. 20.53.16 Join Madinko12 [0] (n=M@ABordeaux-256-1-48-127.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.53.21 # Hello 20.53.35 # I'm new here ! 20.54.21 Quit Madinko12 (Client Quit) 20.54.37 Join Madinko12 [0] (n=M@ABordeaux-256-1-48-127.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.55.54 # bluebrother, oh, ok 20.56.11 # i could have sworn i saw that png was recommend for WPS. oh well lol 20.56.34 # time to find a free .png to .jpg program :D 20.56.48 # again, thanks to the devs for such awesome firmware! :) 20.56.52 Quit ompaul ("init 6") 20.56.54 # later. 20.56.56 Part Suicide_Guy ("Leaving") 20.57.14 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 20.57.35 # png is usually the preferred format if you post screenshots, but that's all. 20.59.17 # anyone else getting freezes on iriver h10 very often with a current build? 20.59.52 # Arathis: amiconn has been looking for an H10 owner.... 21.00.13 # amiconn: your search ends here ;) 21.06.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.09.08 # at least a bit. I'm half away .. 21.10.37 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 21.11.00 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 21.11.03 Join hannesd__ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 21.11.16 Part norbusan 21.12.00 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.12.01 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 21.12.14 Quit TTSbox ("Leaving") 21.13.00 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.13.35 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@chello213047086216.5.14.tuwien.teleweb.at) 21.14.08 Part norbusan 21.15.43 Quit hannesd_ (Connection timed out) 21.15.53 Quit Jon-Kha_ ("leaving") 21.16.02 Quit Jon-Kha ("leaving") 21.16.14 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 21.18.01 Nick hannesd__ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 21.20.30 Quit Madinko12 ("Quitte") 21.22.06 # I too have an H10 if you need help amiconn? 21.22.37 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.24.00 Join mickleby [0] (i=456b3a5c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-71ac1749ef1c2fd3) 21.24.31 # greetings and felicitations 21.25.10 # Soul-Slayer: 5/6gb or 20gb? 21.25.32 Quit PaulJam (".") 21.35.43 # n00b that I am, today I seek knowledge regarding preprocessor macros/#define, specificaly as utilized by MENUITEM_FUNCTION(...) within ../apps/menu.h. I plan to seek first simple examples, and to explore creating examples of my own. Generous offerings of insight and direction, of patterns and pitfalls will be humbly appreciated -- exploited -- replicated -- and disseminated widely, and to the detriment of sinis 21.36.03 # 6gb 21.39.53 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 21.41.12 # hello 21.44.40 # * DC1 wonders how hard would it be to implement something equivalent to apple accessory protocol 21.54.12 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.56.26 # I'm getting a sad iPod face with an Apple iPod support URL when I try to boot up my 4th gen iPod now. It also makes clicking noises until it powers off. 21.56.31 Nick lymeca_ is now known as lymeca (n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca) 21.56.44 # Soul-Slayer: I've got 20gb. So we have all we need ;) 21.57.14 # lymeca: if I had to guess I would say your hard drive is toast. 21.57.30 # Do you know how to force your iPod 4th gen into disk mode? 21.57.42 # Not 100% sure 21.57.48 # What is it Select + Left? 21.59.01 # select is the center button 21.59.13 # http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651 22.00.16 # Bagder: ? 22.00.27 # in general you should see Apple for all the iPod's on-screen error icons/codes/messages. They do a pretty dang good job of troubleshooting them all 22.01.31 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-5005.bb.online.no) 22.06.14 # arrgghh this is awful 22.06.23 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 22.08.36 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.09.00 # lymeca_: My 5th gen behaved as yours a few days for no good reason (i.e. sadMac, clicking drive). I let it rest, and a few hours later it started up just as normal.. Just saying take your time before you do anything radical 22.10.39 # mickleby: Do you jog with it or otherwise subject it to rapid movements while it's playing back? 22.11.04 # I've tried hitting it on the back a couple times on my desk 22.11.43 # And I've tried holding Select+Menu and various other combinations to get it to start up...booting into disk mode doesn't even seem to work. 22.12.06 # It charges when I plug it into USB. It shows a large charging battery icon. 22.15.07 Join Hammer89 [0] (n=soc_inte@static-host-24-149-229-197.patmedia.net) 22.15.45 # A couple times it showed a folder with an exclamation mark instead of an unhappy iPod face, but the behavior seemed consistant. (clicks and reboot) 22.15.45 # lymeca: wouldn't recommend jogging with a harddrive player, no. have you found key sequnce that reboots the box? 22.16.58 # lymeca: I came in in the middle of your desc. What precipitated your issues? 22.18.31 # Hmm, well I was dancing around outside with it in my pocket last night, no different from normal use I put it through, really... 22.18.56 # Then the Rockbox UI froze and wasn't responding but the music still played 22.19.16 # I was in the ROckbox main menu and the backlight would turn on fine but none of the buttons did ANYTHING 22.19.27 # So it just kept going from track to track and finished the playlist 22.19.39 # Then I manually rebooted it hitting Select+Menu I think 22.19.58 # Then when I tried starting it up it clicked and wouldn't boot into Rockbox 22.20.41 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3032.gwdg.de) 22.20.55 # Now I can't even get into disk mode and when I plug it into USB it will charge but every once in a while it will try and boot up but just start clicking and showing the sad iPod face again until it goes back to simply charging again. 22.21.05 # No Rockbox in sight 22.21.40 # lymeca: yeah, seems obvious hd problem, likely another damned dancing related injury! (Not to make lite of seriousness) Have you tried diskcheck? 22.22.13 # I've not,no... 22.22.14 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.22.20 # How can I try that? 22.22.58 # lymeca: well we need to get it to mount as a hd on your computer. do you linux, windows, mac, vax? 22.23.09 # vax! 22.23.18 # vax? 22.23.20 # I mean,uhh,Debian GNU+Linux. 22.23.34 # flashbacks, sorry 22.25.03 # lymeca: don't spurn me, but I have a windows background from which I am recovering. Am sure you can find someone more qualified to help you determine if the harddrive can be rescued by linux. 22.25.36 # lymeca: essentially, you mount the drive and run whatever disk checking util is available 22.25.48 # fsck.vfat 22.25.57 # mickleby: From which you are recovering,eh? What are you using now? 22.26.14 # dionoea: Sure,but how the hell do I mount the damn thing if I can't boot it up? 22.26.46 # well you can't :) 22.26.53 # So you phone the Apple consumer support 22.27.01 # and hope that your iPod's warranty is still ok 22.27.03 # lymeca: this is a windows xp laptop I grabbed on Black Friday for $200. 2G, 1.87Ghz .. functions for now 22.27.43 # mickleby: Using Windows XP doesn't count as "recovering" from a Windows background. 22.27.48 # :) 22.28.17 # yes, but I program using the debian vmware.. it's something 22.28.58 # * lymeca uses Xen 22.30.43 # * lymeca doubts the iPod is still under warranty 22.30.50 # seems the we live in virtual times, with virtual presidents, and virtual freedoms.. 22.30.55 # Does anyone know what ampage the standard battery in the Gigabeat is? Rockbox defaults it to 2000, but replacement batteries are apparently 850? 22.32.27 # lymeca: took my 5th gen on the last day of warranty and got a brand-spanking-new one with very few queries made. Be certain about warranty before you open the iPod case 22.32.31 Join dj`bergamote [0] (n=coolcubi@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-91-248.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.32.35 Quit CoolCubix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.32.52 # Does putting Rockbox on void the warranty? 22.34.53 # lymeca: why mention that? 22.35.09 # Well,now,I probably wouldn't either way 22.36.08 Quit petur ("switching...") 22.37.11 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.38.13 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.38.38 # lymeca: sorry if redundant: I am no rb 'pert, but I spoke up because I had a harddrive issue to share. in my case I think the hd arm got stuck, and became unstuck later. I had planned to wipe or even replace the hd. so I am EVER so glad that I didn't jump off too soon. Certainly hope that this is your future, but for hardware advice I can offer little more. 22.40.30 # Yeah it's out of warranty... apparently the thing was purchased on January 29th, 2005 22.40.39 # WAY out of warranty probably 22.40.57 Nick BHSPitLappy_ is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.42.56 # lymeca: I live 3 mi from an Apple store, so I would stop in, even w/o warrenty. And regards recovery, will I need to go cold turkey on AOE3? forefend! 22.43.25 Join crop [0] (i=53f23f44@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-16205b6c11769c88) 22.44.35 # mickleby: bad choice, a Microsoft published game. Many (most?) Windows-only games work in WINE or Cedega. Not AoE III though... 22.44.54 # I get my fix listening to the soundtrack with Amarok. 22.45.00 # <3 Stephen Rippy 22.46.52 # lymeca: one nice thing about addiction is that it can be transferred. are there compelling linux multiplayer strategy games.. (MS brain drain alert! have I never heard of chess? othello?) 22.47.05 # pondlife: ping 22.49.34 # mickleby, wesnoth ;) 22.50.49 Quit belze_ ("Ich weiß deine Monster sind genau wie meine, und mit denen bleibt man besser nicht alleine.") 22.55.39 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.57.52 Part crop ("@pondlife: how did you spot the error? And why did miik use that index?") 23.05.45 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 23.05.56 Part Hammer89 23.06.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.30 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-109-022.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 23.13.11 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 23.13.12 # dan_a? 23.13.46 Join karim [0] (n=karim@ip-20.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) 23.13.55 # no, should have checked mail first :) 23.16.12 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 23.16.31 Join ansivirus [0] (n=ansiviru@adsl-76-225-180-38.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 23.17.11 Quit desowin ("use linux") 23.21.23 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 23.26.34 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.27.17 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-109-022.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 23.30.53 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 23.35.30 Quit karim ("Ex-Chat") 23.37.08 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.38.30 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-44.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.44.29 # * dan_a wonders why the G3 bootloader in trunk isn't working for him 23.47.55 Join Jinx|xniJ [0] (n=blow@71.238.61.64) 23.48.11 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.48.11 # Hello 23.48.47 # I just got an 80gig ipod today, and i think im going to flash its firmware. :) 23.49.29 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 23.52.09 # Do you guys notice an increase in the battery life with BOS? 23.52.35 # BOS? 23.52.48 # On an iPod, Rockbox will give you a worse battery life 23.52.49 Quit thegeek () 23.52.50 # and btw, rockbox isn't "flashed" on ipods 23.53.31 # * scorche wonders if that part in the topic has worn out its welcome yet 23.54.43 # well, as a lurker you don't read topic updates from long ago 23.54.49 # not when the topics are this overly long anyway 23.55.12 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 23.55.14 # then what is BOS supposed to mean? 23.55.29 # bag of shit ;) 23.55.39 # * Bagder ohs 23.55.51 # i thought it was better as Box of Sweetness (in my mind) 23.56.47 # Anyways, yeah i read the instal part, i see it isnt a flash 23.56.59 # and this topic is likely on the short end compared to most the topics on freenode 23.57.10 # what kind of battery life are you looking at on an ipod video? Depend on what type of file your listening to or? 23.57.23 # possibly, I'm just of the old school where we had < 80 columns topics 23.57.27 # it depends on various things, yes 23.57.53 # Jinx|xniJ: around 50-70% i believe is the current guesstimate 23.58.00 Quit Paprica (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.58.12 # but I'll admit that I usually put my irc window so that the topic isn't shown anyway ;-) 23.58.16 # Jinx|xniJ: i would expect 50-60% of the batterylife in the apple firmware. see here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=IpodRuntime 23.58.20 # Well for lossless, i think i might be willing to forgoe that 23.58.27 Part hcs