--- Log for 14.07.107 Server: heinlein.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 12 hours ago 00.00.06 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.00.36 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 00.03.55 # saratoga: the shifter operand is a constant (#3) or some register shifted (r0, lsl #3). So add r0, r0, #3 or add r0, r0, r1, lsl #3 00.11.13 # got it, unfortunately, my asm version is no faster then gcc's version 00.11.55 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.12.16 Join Pro90 [0] (n=mongo@217.196.84.38) 00.12.23 # hi 00.12.48 # i have a iriver H340 with us firmware 00.12.49 # saratoga: watch out for memory stalls. something should go between a load and the register access. 00.13.32 # can i also update to the EU firmware 1.29? 00.13.59 # (i know that my player will never play DRM files...) 00.14.01 # jhMikeS: would you look at this? http://pastebin.ca/618345 00.14.11 # am I doing anything stupid? 00.14.22 # Pro90: you can, but you will permanently loose the ability to play DRM protected wma files. 00.15.07 # yeah i know 00.15.15 # how do i do it? 00.15.34 # just download the firmware file? 00.17.25 # ?? 00.17.25 # saratoga: you need to tell it about the carry flag? 00.18.22 # Pro90: you just put the H300.hex to the root of your player and select the firmwareupdate from the menu (at least that is how it works on non us players) 00.19.33 # saratoga: also, I don't know if you could somehow use ldm/stm in some way instead of loading each word and storing the result individually 00.19.33 # jhMikeS: doesn't the "cc" handle that? 00.20.08 # I'm not sure why you'd need to preserve it. It it generating any code to do so? 00.20.28 # sorry, misunderstood 00.20.37 # i assumed I needed to tell it 00.26.03 Quit desowin ("use linux") 00.34.31 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.39.54 Join vehicle [0] (n=alkjd@c-24-91-253-221.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.47.29 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.164.ptr.us.xo.net) 00.47.45 # is there a forum for the latest on the porting to zune? 00.48.21 # or the latest on the progress* 00.50.34 # there is a thread in the New Ports forum 00.53.00 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.55.12 # vehicle: so far as I know, the zune port is at the same point it was the day the zune launched 01.00.12 Quit Pro90 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.38 Quit Tr1ckY ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.03.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.21 Quit kfazz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.11.31 Join ansivirus [0] (n=ansiviru@adsl-76-225-180-38.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 01.15.57 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 01.17.53 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 01.21.17 Join Eric__ [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.75.253) 01.21.27 Quit Eric__ (Client Quit) 01.21.28 Quit obo ("bye") 01.21.34 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.75.253) 01.28.15 Quit ender` (" It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is inter) 01.32.48 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.35.19 Quit imbecile ("Leaving") 01.43.48 Quit inversions (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.46.55 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) 01.47.21 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-199.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 01.52.54 # Anyone think this is repairable? http://cgi.ebay.ca/Toshiba-gigabeat-MES60VK-60-GB-NOT-FULLY-FUNTIONAL_W0QQitemZ120139832320QQihZ002QQcategoryZ98198QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 01.57.39 Join Nimdae_ [0] (n=nimmeh@static-71-164-213-195.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 01.57.42 Quit Nimdae ("leaving") 01.59.10 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.03.03 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 02.03.50 Nick Nimdae_ is now known as Nimdae (n=nimmeh@static-71-164-213-195.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 02.05.08 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.05.33 # I think toffe82 would be the one to know best 02.06.48 Quit Xerion (" ") 02.10.35 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 02.11.14 # pixelma: He's known as a horder of jiggabeats, I'll ask him when he's around 02.15.01 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 02.15.47 # ah, you already know that :) 02.17.05 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.17.57 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.39 Quit idnar_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.21.48 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-134-147.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 02.21.52 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@pool-70-107-149-177.ny325.east.verizon.net) 02.23.54 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.24.23 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-0-13.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.26.03 Quit DC1 (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.53 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 02.28.26 Quit entheh ("^~") 02.36.57 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-134-147.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 02.43.11 Part pixelma 02.49.03 Quit gotthardt ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 02.51.59 Quit entheh ("^~") 02.52.19 Join Tr1ckY [0] (n=Tr1ckY@0x535b39aa.ronxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 02.56.39 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@h237.231.143.24.cable.snbr.sanbrunocable.com) 03.03.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.04.10 Quit relaxed (Remote closed the connection) 03.17.33 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@pool-70-107-149-177.ny325.east.verizon.net) 03.18.28 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtj8.cable.mindspring.com) 03.26.33 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 03.26.37 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp143-149.adsl.forthnet.gr) 03.26.59 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-7075.bb.online.no) 03.29.41 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.30.51 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.35.03 # Since when does the gain setting on the H120 go all the way up th 52.5 dB? 03.35.07 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.35.09 # (internal mic) 03.35.24 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.164.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.37.33 # 52.5dB seems a bit insane. Maybe something closer to 32.5dB would be saner? 03.38.31 # jhMikeS: IIRC the allowable recording levels where not this 'wide' a while ago. Has something changed? 03.48.53 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.51.23 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 04.00.57 # According to this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRecording the recording levels are currently all over the map! 04.04.10 Quit MonkeyTamer ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 04.04.35 Join scorche` [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.10.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7430 <-- Bug report submitted! 04.19.17 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.20.42 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.20.42 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.22.05 Join n [0] (n=n@host86-133-215-183.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 04.23.27 Part n 04.26.10 Join nj [0] (n=nj@host86-133-215-183.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 04.26.31 Part nj 04.27.07 Join n [0] (n=n@host86-133-215-183.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 04.28.20 Quit kubiixaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.34 Part n 04.33.00 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 04.33.20 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@ti521110a080-7075.bb.online.no) 04.35.26 Join n [0] (n=n@host86-133-215-183.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 04.35.35 Quit thegeek (Client Quit) 04.36.57 Quit n (Client Quit) 04.37.33 Join Nick_Brackley [0] (i=3aa67da1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1c15919bb08e6c83) 04.42.05 Quit Soul-Slayer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.46.32 Nick Tr1ckY is now known as Tr1ckY^Gone (n=Tr1ckY@0x535b39aa.ronxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 04.49.10 # http://pastebin.ca/618633 04.50.25 # I _think_ I just had an odd "svn up" experience. Does anyone with more brains than me want to look at the pastebin link I pasted above and tell me if that looks normal? 04.51.14 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.51.43 # what's bugging me is that I know more than three files have changed in the last 9 svn revisions, yet "svn up" (if I'm reading it right) only updated three. 04.53.19 # ok, I think I just answered my own question, yet raised a new one. 04.54.21 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Administ@89.241.224.65) 04.54.27 # what happened to SVN revisions 13870 71 72 73 74 69 and 68? 04.55.37 # (lordy I can't type tonight.) forget I mentioned 13870, it's 68, 69, 71, 72, 73, 74 I don't see on the front page. 04.57.05 # that is a bit odd 05.01.17 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 05.02.21 # austriancoder: i'm trying to create a build with your latest patch for usb and i keep running into an error with linux2rb.h 05.03.24 # Someone mentioned that to him earlier, he forgot it or something, said he'd do something about it but it seems he didn't :p 05.04.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.04.39 # thanx 05.07.28 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-f1cc549565421df9) 05.18.50 Join nekura42 [0] (n=nekura42@adsl-074-229-050-061.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) 05.25.19 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 05.26.07 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 05.33.59 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.44.00 # hmm, wouldn't it be interesting to see the download numbers for unsupported builds? 05.44.00 # yes it would 05.44.10 # http://www.pastebin.ca/618671 05.44.28 # is a quick dump of the logs for evilg.cleansoap.org 05.46.02 # 300 and 218 downloads for his two ipod video builds (32 / 64 MB) vs ~6000 and ~3000 for official Rockbox. 05.47.16 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.59.59 Quit Soul-Slayer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.01.10 Join GEETUX-VERYMAD [0] (i=d85db36c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-5ad19bc30a149c8f) 06.02.26 # Bspec 06.03.44 Quit GEETUX-VERYMAD (Excess Flood) 06.05.12 Quit DC1 ("$4E75") 06.10.59 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@adsl-226-227-215.dab.bellsouth.net) 06.17.24 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 06.18.17 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.40 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181107208.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.22.33 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.36.15 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 06.36.22 Quit Shaid ("I will see you, in the end. And I will laugh at your pain...") 06.53.53 Part toffe82 06.56.07 # Soap: Afaik Bagder created a branch for gigabeat S. Commits in that branch won't appear on the frontpage yet they will bump revision numbers 06.56.38 Quit rotator () 07.01.27 Join zepp [0] (i=z@204.8.223.2) 07.04.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.10.27 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-214-66.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net) 07.13.38 Quit zepp ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 07.18.13 # thank you amiconn. 07.18.33 # I saw that a branch had been opened for the S, but didn't put two and two together. 07.19.28 # (saw the branch was opened and that its commits weren't being published on the front page), but didn't put... 07.32.37 Quit jurrie ("Leaving") 07.40.05 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 08.01.15 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@h237.231.143.24.cable.snbr.sanbrunocable.com) 08.04.48 Join davina [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 08.13.34 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@host.91-92-172-170.airbites.bg) 08.22.53 Quit nekura42 (Remote closed the connection) 08.23.15 Join nekura42 [0] (n=nekura42@adsl-074-229-050-061.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) 08.27.59 Quit MonkeyTamer ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 08.30.01 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.34.38 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.75.253) 08.43.32 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6B93.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.45.45 Quit Doomed ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 08.47.31 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B142AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.54.45 Quit DataGhost ("NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°") 09.03.53 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.04.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.06.33 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 09.11.58 Quit ptw419 () 09.15.42 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 09.18.11 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@h237.231.143.24.cable.snbr.sanbrunocable.com) 09.19.08 # hmm. Where can I find which players have car adaptor mode? Haven't found anything in the config-* files :o 09.20.02 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 09.23.47 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.28.37 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@94.60.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 09.28.55 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 09.30.04 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.39.15 Quit MonkeyTamer ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 09.56.27 Quit crashmatrix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.56.59 Join crashmatrix [0] (n=crashmat@s5590785f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 09.58.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.58.36 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6B93.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.08.37 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 10.11.54 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 10.14.46 Join nekura42_ [0] (n=nekura42@adsl-074-229-050-061.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) 10.15.08 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.16.00 Join scorche [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.19.38 Quit nekura42 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.20.22 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 10.25.51 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.25.55 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host205-204-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.26.07 # hey all 10.26.53 # Good morning (GMT) 10.27.05 # hi dan_a 10.27.13 # Hi amiconn 10.27.31 # dan_a: How does rockbox perform in general on iPod G3 (i.e. PP5002)? 10.27.43 # Llorean: you round? 10.27.52 # I wonder whether it's worth completing the rockbox port to the ipod family 10.28.04 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.28.04 # iPod G2 and G1 are still missing, and they are PP5002 10.28.45 # I also wonder how difficult a port would be (probably not difficult thanks to ipl) 10.29.12 # amiconn: Now it's running at the full clock speed, it's usable. It still needs some work to bring it up to the standard of the 4G, but I don't think it's anything impossible 10.29.50 # There are some G2s and G1s on ebay.de I am watching 10.30.10 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-108-21.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.30.28 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 10.30.42 # btw, is that full speed fix implemented in ipl? 10.30.47 # More people working on the PP5002s would be a good thing 10.30.56 # dan_a: And a G3 specific question: Are the button lights controlled separately, or coupled with backlight? 10.31.08 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.31.11 # They are hooked to the backlight 10.32.30 Quit Paprica (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.32.45 # JdGordon: Hello. I'm having trouble with hangups/undefined instruction/prefect abort from the radio debug screen 10.33.05 # which target? 10.33.21 # H120, e200 (the ones I've checked so far) 10.34.05 # crap, ok, once my fingures warm up a bit ill have a look.... 10.34.08 # basically that leaves x5 that I haven't checked 10.34.30 # is anything displayed before crashing? 10.34.35 # or startight away when entering? 10.38.18 # the statusbar gets corrupted 10.38.51 # the screen shows and the crash happens after that 10.40.34 # I'll do a recheck just to make sure it's not anything I'm working on. 10.40.45 # ... serves me right for checking on my radio-less sansa and forgetting about checking onthe h300... 10.41.00 # h300 works... 10.41.11 # no, it shows, but crashes 10.41.41 # btw, everyone like the new look disk debug screens? 10.42.07 # e200 just crashed, clean svn build 10.42.29 # prefectch abort at 60000002 10.43.55 # did I miss Llorean for the evening already? 10.44.17 # Bagder: I don't think the full speed fix is implemented in ipl yet 10.44.18 # JdGordon: looks good to me but it doesn't auto update when inserting a card like before 10.45.05 # jhMikeS: it does here... 10.45.24 # * JdGordon 's sansa has gone awol 10.45.35 # odd, it wasn't and then it started to 10.46.02 # is it obvious enough how to change cards? 10.46.16 # Commits to ipl cvs are a rare thing nowadays... unless i am looking in the wrong place 10.47.01 # JdGordon: well, I found it by pushing buttons pretty quickly so I guess so :) 10.47.14 # cool 10.47.23 # didnt really want to have both cards in the same list 10.47.31 # * JdGordon idiot.... found the radio bug... 10.47.36 # just need to test it 10.47.52 # JdGordon: The debug works fine on Ondio, including auto update 10.48.13 # :) 10.48.15 # But why does it say 'MMC/micro SD' instead of just 'MMC'? 10.48.42 # an extra 8 bytes is better than having a #ifdef for the string in the code... 10.49.03 # Then #define the string somewhere before the code... 10.49.04 # its only the debug screen after all 10.49.30 Join ^BeN^ [0] (n=Paprica@84.228.211.181) 10.49.34 Nick ^BeN^ is now known as Paprica (n=Paprica@84.228.211.181) 10.50.19 # then why not use some more generic string? "Card" f.e.? 10.52.14 # .... fine.... 10.53.34 # * jhMikeS will then forget what he has :( 10.55.10 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) 10.55.16 # "Card" somehow doesn't sound like something that you would read in a debug screen, not very techy ;) 10.55.51 # ok all fixed 10.56.59 # Neither Card nor MMC nor microSD are 100% correct anyway, because "Card" 0 is actually the built-in storage which is controlled the same as an MMC/microSD, but isn't an actual card 10.57.03 # * jhMikeS svn up's so he can finish this grunt work 10.57.31 # But as JdGordon said, it's just a debug screen, so 'Card' is fine imho 10.58.59 # * pixelma remembers that she got confused with "MMC0" in the old debug screen 10.59.25 Join webguest84 [0] (i=5087bba8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f1ae860fc1ec34cc) 10.59.41 Quit printfXh4 ("Leaving") 10.59.49 Join printfXh4 [0] (n=pseudo@ppp121-45-214-66.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net) 11.01.30 # JdGordon: Yes, and no. I'm back. 11.01.44 # yay :) 11.02.11 # amiconn: Or "Flash"? 11.02.14 # first off.... ill let you commit the sansa changes if you let me commit custom menu... 11.02.19 # :-P 11.02.32 # I'm sure there were other people who didn't like the Sansa changes too. 11.02.36 # I just couldn't remember who they were 11.03.03 # ... I had a look at the patch again, and I guess its not all that bad, Ill put it on mine soon and actually try it out 11.03.24 # * jhMikeS needs bringing up to speed on said "sansa changes" 11.03.26 # down isnt any harder than power to hit.. so yeah, put me in the indifferent pile 11.03.26 # I personally like it a lot better, but I'm quite aware keymappings are an issue of taste. 11.03.38 # jhMikeS: It's just a different keymap, I posted it to Flyspray some time ago 11.03.43 # 7232 jhMikeS 11.03.49 # ah 11.04.08 Join kretender [0] (n=Kaspar@104.85.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 11.04.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.04.18 # It's basically a keymap that's much more similar to the keymaps on other players. 11.04.41 # can someone do me a big favour please? change the black in the 16bit default iconset to 0,0,255 ? 11.04.48 # * JdGordon has no mspaint equiv on this comp 11.05.36 # The disadvantage being that it's a little slower to get to the context menu, because it's long-press "Down", while it offers a short-press stop on the "Power" button instead. 11.05.46 # Which, I'll admit, Stop is probably one of the less used buttons. 11.05.56 Part printfXh4 ("Leaving") 11.05.59 # I remember this now. Actually, for me a long press of the menu button doing a context menu and a short one doing the regular menu would make sense as well 11.06.19 # jhMikeS: By "Menu" you mean the button at the bottom of the circle? 11.06.22 # JdGordon: Why Blue? 11.06.29 # surprise :) 11.06.45 # well... im trying to fix the bug where the icons dont use the forground colour 11.06.51 # Llorean: yes 11.06.57 # If that' going to be "Foreground" why not 0,0,255, Cyan might be a less common color 11.07.00 # that colour would be the replace-with-forground 11.07.06 # I'd had for someone to attempt to make an actual blue icon set. :-P 11.07.16 # Err 0, 255, 255 rather 11.07.20 # * JdGordon is happy to set any colour 11.07.21 # but then we have labelled buttons and I have a liking for buttons doing as they're labelled on the device :\ 11.07.26 # can anyone tell me how I find out if a player has car adapter mode? Wasn't successful looking at config-*.h 11.07.38 # dw... installed kolorpaint 11.07.42 Quit Nick_Brackley ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.07.50 # jhMikeS: The only label it violates is the word "menu" beneath the power logo. It's a valid concern though. 11.08.01 # * Llorean discovers he has no USB keyboard. 11.08.12 Quit webguest84 ("CGI:IRC") 11.11.07 # bluebrother: Any device which has charging also has car adapter mode 11.11.19 Quit nekura42_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.11.34 # amiconn: Do they all just Pause right now? 11.11.42 # Whether it's fully usable depends on factors not under rockbox' control 11.11.45 # any objections to http://pastebin.ca/618932 ? 11.12.00 # various devices I have have wildly different keymapping and somehow I manage and don't get tripped up switching amongst them. Initial mapping expectations based on another device when first using a device are often more problematic. If you've never used rockbox on more than one, I think consistency with labels is more helpful. 11.12.17 # Car adapter mode pauses/unpauses. To be fully usable the device should boot into rockbox when power is connected 11.12.47 # JdGordon: That would actually allow for some *really* nifty things, too. 11.12.48 # This depends on the hardware and on some targets also on the builtin loader (e.g. cowon) 11.12.59 # Like an > pointer, with a black outline and a FGCOLOR center 11.13.08 # yeah 11.13.42 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964E92.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.14.28 # the radio screen doesn't seem to be updating unless I start pushing a button. the screen should be live. 11.14.29 Join chrisdudeperson [0] (i=522b6787@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-914740a0aefa60c3) 11.14.35 # jhMikeS: My main intent with that wasn't button positioning, but rather "If a button does X in the wps, and Y in the menu on one target, the button that does X in the wps on another should do Y in the menu" 11.14.35 # radio debug screen rather 11.14.44 # radio screen isnt static info? 11.14.54 # no 11.14.56 # hey 11.15.02 # jhMikeS: Basically, if a button is the "Menu" button, it should do the same things as the "Menu" button on the other players, independent of where they are physically on any given unit. 11.15.19 # The problem is that the Sansa has a "Playlist" button 11.16.47 Quit chrisdudeperson (Client Quit) 11.16.50 # amiconn: no objection to above pastebin? 11.16.54 Join chrisisme [0] (i=522b6787@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e87ad265b878faca) 11.17.40 Quit chrisisme (Client Quit) 11.17.44 Join chrisdudeperson [0] (i=522b6787@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-96a6f2dc2f1a29e8) 11.17.52 # hry 11.17.54 # hey 11.17.58 # can someone tell me 11.18.09 # is iboy preinstalled on rockbox? 11.18.27 Part lee-qid 11.18.37 # Llorean: never really thought of any button as "playlist". I don't even know of which you speak. :) 11.18.47 # chrisdudeperson: Please read the manual. There's no "iboy" but there is "rockboy" preinstalled. 11.18.57 # jhMikeS: It's what I hear a lot of people call the bottom button on the circle. 11.19.00 # ok thanks 11.19.04 Quit chrisdudeperson (Client Quit) 11.19.16 # jhMikeS: Maybe it shows the playlist in the OF or something. 11.19.17 # ?? Always looked like a dropdown menu to me 11.19.28 # * JdGordon also thought it was a menu button 11.19.30 # I always thought of it as "Menu" 11.19.43 # But the Power button is labeled "Menu" 11.19.45 # first thing I thought was "context menu" 11.20.01 # * JdGordon loads OF 11.20.36 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 11.21.12 # from the OF's WPS, its the equiv of our quick screen 11.22.14 # a combo of quickscreen and the WPS context menu 11.22.49 Quit dan_a ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 11.22.52 # * jhMikeS wonder if the OF is even using the COP as the decoding core :\ 11.23.46 # it gets clunky during playback 11.24.51 # Aren't we nearly at the Sansa's OF battery life already? 11.26.12 # I really don't know where that stands atm but we could blow the lid off it in performance using the COP for sure. 11.26.31 Join Nick_Brackley [0] (i=3aa67da1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-99354182aba3e94b) 11.27.11 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 11.30.40 # Llorean: ok, compiling with your patch now 11.30.46 Quit h4ngedm4n ("leaving") 11.32.42 # meh, its not so bad, commit it if you want 11.33.13 # it will take 30 s to get used to 11.33.17 Quit stripwax_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.33.23 # jhMikeS: Mind trying it out and seeing if it "feels okay" to you too? 11.33.48 # JdGordon: Did I see from old logs that you're playing with git now? 11.34.03 # was then, havnt touched it sinc 11.34.04 # e 11.34.11 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 11.34.12 # Ah, OK 11.34.25 # Llorean: only down side is i tihnk power is less used, and mostly useless 11.34.43 # JdGordon: True, power is now only "Stop" and actually turning the unit off. 11.35.24 # Hm, Zagor's the only person who tinkers with our Flyspray right? 11.36.05 # I was thinking it might be nice to have a "SoC '08" option in the "Due In" box, so that if good ideas do show up, we can flag them now as potential candidates for next year, if we're involved and if they aren't done by then. 11.38.35 # * dan_a has spotted a Gigabeat S on ebay.co.uk 11.41.01 # speaking of SoC, anyone know if Nico has been around recently? 11.41.24 # JdGordon: I've seen him in and out, but I haven't talked to him since Mon. 11.41.36 # k 11.41.43 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 11.41.46 # His plugin seems to have a small on-target bug 11.42.32 # my svn log shows he fixed it 11.42.47 # JdGordon: I think he said something yesterday (or the day before) that he had no time or something 11.43.00 # :( ok 11.43.05 # JdGordon: It's still r46 right? 11.43.22 # ah yeah 11.43.35 # r45 | nico | 2007-07-09 06:49:21 +1000 (Mon, 09 Jul 2007) | 5 lines 11.43.36 # It works on target ! 11.43.36 # The bug is that the output files are sometimes 4 bytes shorter than the input file 11.43.40 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.43.46 # It works on target, but not perfectly 11.44.38 # oh ok 11.45.00 # I wanted to start thining about merging it into svn, but almost chocked when i look at playback.c :p 11.45.23 # Hehehe 11.45.54 # He was also talking about how to deal with files longer than the whole buffer. 11.46.22 # Instead of dealing with moving the metadata handle before it, maybe having a ringbuffer within the data itself. 11.46.35 # So for "long" data, there's a second ringbuffer just for it. 11.47.13 # "long" meaning long enough that it'll need to overwrite something that hasn't been cleared/released/whatever terminology 11.47.42 # yeah, we had talked about that, its goita aroundng to be messy, but better than moving the metada 11.47.51 # fuck, stupid touchpad 11.47.54 # hm, is it no longer possible to have rgb(0,255,255) in a bitmap? 11.47.59 # no 11.48.11 # 0,255,254 is close enough 11.48.13 # true 11.48.30 # yeah, we had talked about that, its going to be messy, but better than moving the metadata around 11.48.44 # Will 0,255,254 work? I was always curious whether the comparison happens before or after the 16-bit conversion. 11.49.23 # which reminds me. I still can't find any way to actually quantize a bmp to rgb565 11.49.47 # (on a pc, that is) 11.49.56 # Llorean: I guess its converted before the comparrison, so maybe not 11.50.51 # JdGordon: Still, the nearest 16-bit color should be close enough I think 11.51.13 # If we can give away magenta, we can give away cyan. 11.51.53 # * JdGordon wonders how many wps's he broke with that patch 11.52.50 # Llorean: sure 11.52.53 # Llorean: I think 0,255,254 probably won't work - at least the jewels puzzle tiles had a background colour of 0,254,254 before my changes (except the Ipod video ones) - haven't tried but I think it was still transparent there 11.53.09 # pixelma: Thanks 11.53.20 # Either way, I really like the idea of having a color for "foreground" as well. 11.53.35 # unless you tell me it wasn't transparent... 11.53.55 # pixelma: It's been transparent on all my players pre-your-changes. 11.54.16 # thanks 11.54.27 # (for the info, I mean) 11.55.00 # * jhMikeS thinks the bitmaps need headers to also include their transparent color (besides size and other info) and wonders how low such a conversion would take. 11.56.02 Join kfazz [0] (n=ken@76-203-137-185.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) 11.58.25 # out of curiosity... is anyone using the file browser colour stuff? 11.58.58 # ... and wasnt 6933 commited? 11.59.45 Join Butsumetsu [0] (n=wqd@124.104.149.83) 12.00.11 # hello. 12.00.48 Part maffe 12.01.40 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.02.12 # JdGordon: I use it. 12.02.22 # Llorean: Not sure about it :\ 12.02.45 # jhMikeS: Alright. It may be best it's just left as a patch then, at least for now. 12.03.10 # JdGordon: And the Vol +/- work in the menus on my gigabeat (though somewhat unresponsive) so I think so 12.03.38 # Well, the status bar update when the vol changes in unresponsive, actually. I think it changes fast, it just doesn't give feedback fast 12.04.13 # ok, ta 12.04.42 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3114.gwdg.de) 12.04.50 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-238-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 12.05.47 # is anyone here using rockbox on a 80gb ipod? 12.06.08 # Butsumetsu: if you are trying to get around to a specific question, just ask it 12.06.52 # Llorean: HA! 5622 would be closed if I could comit the menu patch :D 12.07.08 # well heres where im at... i downloaded the rockbox.zip from the wiki for 80gb ipod but the manual says that i need to install 3 different things. just wanted to know if the zip has all those 3 12.07.24 # the manual tells you where to get everything 12.07.32 # it does not. 12.07.40 # just follow the guidelines in the manual 12.07.53 # ok 12.07.56 # bluebrother: it doesnt?...i thought everything was linked 12.07.58 # so wat does the zip contain? 12.08.02 # or try rbutil 12.08.14 # scorche: I meant the zip files does not include everything ;-) 12.08.20 # I was a bit unclear ... 12.08.22 # oh...hehe =) 12.08.30 # 1. bootloader 2. rockbox itself 3. fonts right? 12.08.31 # yea thats wat i needed to get clarified with 12.08.36 # naw 12.08.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility 12.08.52 # ipod loader rockbox loader firmware 12.08.55 # i was going to say...if the manual didnt tell you where to get everything, that should eb fixed =P 12.09.07 # right :) 12.09.27 # * stripwax is concerned if the manual really says that 12.09.33 # JdGordon: Ah, but 5622 is a suggesting of a button assignment for an existing quickscreen (and some discussion on repurposing the said already coded screen :-P) 12.09.34 Join petur2 [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.09.35 # Butsumetsu: what do you mean by ipod loader? 12.09.37 # what's the difference between "ipod loader" and "rockbox loader"? 12.09.49 # im just reading off the manual 12.09.52 # the ipod loader is the bootloader that is in the ipods flash 12.10.07 # you can't "install" that surely 12.10.12 # you don't replace that. It's just present (and our safety-guard in case something goes wrong) 12.10.22 # blue i can just use rbutil to install rockbox on ipod? 12.10.25 # yep 12.10.25 # * scorche senses much confusion going on around here 12.10.58 # Butsumetsu - just try rbutil, should work fine 12.11.06 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-90002.2.1 12.11.06 # kk doing it now 12.11.26 # that section clearly states that the Ipod bootloader is just "there" 12.11.55 # and rbutil has three buttons for installation: bootloader, the build and (on the extras tab) fonts. 12.12.06 # kk 12.12.22 # hmm, maybe we should direct more often to rbutil in the first place? 12.12.31 # it's a bit user unfriendly still 12.12.47 # * stripwax is strill trying to get it to build :( 12.12.55 # yeah, but it might be better than manual install for most people 12.12.58 # true 12.13.03 # well my problem with the online manual is that its too general 12.13.07 # and advertising it more might get it more testing ;-) 12.13.24 # what is too general in the manual? Can you be more specific? 12.13.34 # * amiconn thinks that JdGordon's fix for fs #7044 isn't the proper one 12.13.38 # Butsumetsu - should it be simplified to say "just do these three steps" do you think? 12.13.50 # It's okay as a temporary measure though, imho 12.13.50 # well i dont mean that 12.14.00 # amiconn: whats wrogn with it? 12.14.07 # hold on phone 12.14.07 # if we can fix the manual to make it easier we should 12.14.14 # :) 12.14.22 # Using yet another magic colour... 12.14.25 # well, we need to know the problem with the manual first ;-) 12.14.53 # The proper solution involves a bitmap drawing function that distinguishes automatically between native and mono bitmaps 12.15.20 # amiconn - what if you want a multicolor icon though (e.g. foreground colour with a black shadow)? 12.16.34 Quit petur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.18.15 # maybe icons should be palettised and an index should be reserved for foreground and transparent colours? 12.18.16 # That doesn't make much sense imo. The workaround is meant to fix the mono icon set. For an icon+shadow, I would fix the foreground colour within the icon anyway 12.18.37 # Otherwise it will again look strange (e.g. black foreground + black shadow) 12.18.54 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 12.19.52 # hmm 12.21.06 # does anyone think it would be a bad idea to move the hardware init from apps/ to the target tree? 12.21.48 # seen as its duplicated in bootloader/ also 12.21.59 # (and so we only have 1 main() in apps) 12.22.14 # wasn't it wanted to have it separated between bootloader and Rockbox? 12.22.29 # ok my bad the manual is fine just a bit confusing 12.22.47 # nice, so nothing to fix in the manual ;-) 12.23.08 # yea just need to reread it a few times and you'll be fine 12.23.11 # Butsumetsu: what part do you find confusing? 12.23.12 # we can easily #ifndef BOOTLOADER in the TT 12.23.26 # its mostly installation process 12.23.37 # is there a specific part? 12.23.39 # what got me was the 3 part installation process 12.23.48 # and yea direct more to rbutil :P 12.24.07 # well, as rbutil isn't finished yet we haven't done previously. 12.24.16 # aahh ic ic 12.24.24 # well as far im concerned it works fine for me 12.24.27 # but it has reached a state were we could start doing so. At least note it. 12.24.56 # its more user friendly than going through the manual but it cant replace it 12.25.17 Join arod [0] (n=arod@host205-154.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 12.26.36 # themes are in the forums right? 12.26.40 # I'd like to try out rockbox, I have no device right now but I'd like to buy one. Which is the best supported player? 12.26.42 # bluebrother: Do we have a list of "what needs to be finished up"? 12.26.48 # For RBUtil 12.26.53 # Butsumetsu: They're in the Wiki 12.26.55 # what 3 part installation process?...i only see 2 (installing the firmware; installing the bootloader) 12.26.58 # kk thanks 12.27.09 # Llorean: I don't think so. Domonoky might have a list ... 12.27.16 # "There are three separate components of Rockbox, two of which need to be installed in order to run Rockbox." 12.27.21 # arod: "Best" depends on both how much you're willing to pay, what features you want it to have, and whether you're willing to spend time waiting for it to show up on Ebay or some similar location 12.27.29 # that got me confused 12.27.33 # but rereading helped :P 12.27.55 # Llorean - i mentioned some observed bugs in irc the other day, I'd fix them if I can get a build of rbutil 12.28.41 # Butsumetsu - maybe some of that could be in an appendix. Probably the regular user doesn't need to know about the third component that cannot be installed downloaded or changed ;-) 12.28.54 # stripwax: what is your problem with building rbutil? 12.28.55 # arod: you might want to look at the BuyersGuide page in the wiki 12.29.08 # bluebrother - in irc log 12.29.25 # yea that might be more simplier seeing as most users are pretty impatient such as i 12.29.30 # ^^ 12.29.37 # :-) 12.30.02 # well, if you want to use Rockbox you shouldn't be impatient ... 12.30.20 # btw can the font size on the ipod screen be changed or is it that small 12.30.31 # hehe true but it is a trait that is hard to get rid of 12.30.38 # bluebrother - downloaded wxwindows, ran make under cygwin, ran make for rbutil, and got a bunch of errors in streambuf code.. 12.31.04 # Butsumetsu - ok, now read the manual.. ;-) I'm sure the next ten or so questions you might want to ask are already answered for you in the manual 12.31.05 # Butsumetsu: the manual explains that too..i would recommend readint eh whole thing 12.31.09 # ah, your trying on cygwin? Why not native windows? AFAIK the windows version doesn't require cygwin 12.31.11 # (e.g. fonts? yes you can change them) 12.31.16 # haha ok 12.31.37 # bluebrother - oh. just because I'm using cygwin for everything else I do related to rockbox. is cygwin build not supported? bah. 12.31.39 # Butsumetsu: I mentioned the fonts package earlier ... 12.32.00 # stripwax: I don't know if it's not supported. I just guess nobody tried yet ;-) 12.32.13 # yea im looking through that now 12.32.55 # Llorean, pixelma: I'm not feature hungry. I'm looking for a cheap but stable device. I'll read the guide 12.33.04 # bluebrother - ah, ha-ha.. ok, unchartered territory. i'll have a play 12.33.21 # arod: Currently the best price per gigabyte is almost certainly the Gigabeat F40 if you can find one. 12.35.15 # who knows how to pass a param to main() from the bootloader? I fear this is yucky asm territory? 12.35.49 # one last noobie question then ill leave you guys alone and explore a bit... is there podcast/video support? 12.36.37 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 12.36.41 # isn't a podcast just a file that you can download? not sure what needs to be supported. rockbox has a video player, yes. 12.37.01 # Podcasts are just normal audio files. 12.37.09 # Rockbox 12.37.14 # ? 12.37.18 # well there are video podcast too but as for the vid player thanks for telling me 12.37.25 # mpegplayer plugin can only play mpeg2 videos. 12.37.40 # but you can easily switch to the apple firmware for video playback 12.37.55 # hhmmm ic ic 12.38.03 # which might be better suited as Rockbox currently doesn't use the additional chip for video decoding. 12.38.18 # aahh ok 12.38.29 # check manual and wiki page PluginMpegplayer 12.38.53 # * stripwax sighs, no more popworld 12.39.01 Quit petur2 ("here today, gone tomorrow") 12.39.07 # kk and ill go check the plugin page too 12.42.40 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 12.43.58 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 12.44.24 Quit excitatory (Remote closed the connection) 12.45.39 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-7075.bb.online.no) 12.48.34 # * stripwax has found a webpage full of tips on how to get wx to build nicely under cygwin. gah. 12.50.18 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 12.50.26 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e180234114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.51.31 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.51.36 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=jonno@84.13.252.148) 12.52.59 # Domonoky: maybe you can help stripwax to build rbutil under windows? 13.00.46 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m21.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.02.30 # pixelma: sure, what are the problems ? 13.02.56 # * Domonoky will take a look in the logs.. 13.03.39 # Domonoky: he tried building from within cygwin ... I guess nobody has tried before? 13.04.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.04.26 # jeah, i think compiling in cygwin is broken.. i use Code::blocks for it.. 13.04.34 # but i think it should be fixable 13.04.53 # bbl ... 13.05.34 # Domonoky - sorry, what is "Code::blocks" ? Is it worth me persuing trying to fix compiling in cygwin or is that a lost cause? 13.06.25 # Code::Blocks is a IDE which can use a variety of compilers, Cassandra used it for starting rbutil, so i continued to use it :-) 13.06.43 # Domonoky - and which compiler do you use? 13.06.44 # and i think it would be good to fix compiling in cygwin.. 13.07.25 # me to 13.07.26 # too 13.08.22 # * Domonoky waits for his PC to react.. :-) 13.09.48 # i think my Code::Blocks uses the GCC compiler from Dev-Cpp at the moment.. 13.09.57 # i will try to compile with cygwin.. 13.12.16 # thanks. problem seems to be related to stl code in streambuf that tries to do std::max and std::min failing to compile because something (somewhere) has #defined min and max, so that line gets preprocessed into garbage 13.12.26 # googling helps a bit, suggests I need to -DNOMINMAX, trying that 13.13.08 # rbutil itself probably not the problem, looks like templates defined by wx failing to compile 13.13.37 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 13.14.38 Quit Soul-Slayer ("Leaving.") 13.14.55 Quit arod ("Ex-Chat") 13.16.35 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 13.17.56 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fc3ed.pool.einsundeins.de) 13.17.56 # hm.. strange error.. 13.18.02 # ye[ 13.18.04 # yep 13.18.17 # * stripwax assumes you got the same on as he! :) 13.18.29 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 13.20.01 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host131-222-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.21.14 # hm.. -DNOMINMAX helps a bit, but then you get problems in ipodpatcher..(i think it needs the min and max.. :-) ) 13.22.55 Quit The-Compiler ("Connection reseted by god") 13.23.06 # oh.. 13.23.35 # ipodpatcher should just be fixed then. 13.24.13 # * stripwax wonders if changing some #include order would also resolve.. 13.26.13 # stripwax: could be.. 13.26.40 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@94.60.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 13.27.06 # oh i see a problem in ipodpatcher for this.. 13.27.39 # there is a #ifdef __WIN32__ and this isnt defined for cygwin.. 13.28.08 # in ipodpatcher\ipodio.h .. hm.. will make some tests.. 13.33.07 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 13.33.22 # defining __WIN32__ in the Makefile also helps, but know ipodpatcher i also have to change the makefile so it uses ipodio-win32.c and not ipodio-posix.h 13.35.19 # jeah.. rbutil compiled and worked in cygwin !! :-) 13.36.26 # great! somereason wx is still (re)building for me, taking ages .. 13.37.03 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.37.15 # wonder why __WIN32__ isn't defined for cygwin, or is that just the wrong #ifdef to use here? though __WIN32__ meant 'target is win32'. wonder what cygwin defines 13.38.01 # so the changes needed to get it compile: add -DNOMINMAX to the cpp compileing path, define __WIN32__ in the Makefile, and replace the ipodio-posix.o with ipod-win32.o the same for the sansapatcher.. 13.38.36 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 13.38.36 # replace the object file? shouldn't it compile the right thing? 13.38.41 # so we need to change the Makefile so it contains a special win32 path :-) 13.38.54 # in the Makefile there is a list of .o files. 13.39.04 # ah, i see 13.39.14 # but -- shouldn't the posix code compile for cygwin? 13.39.24 # * stripwax rather thought that was the point of cygwin 13.39.46 # it doesnt compile, and the win32 version works.. so i dont know.. 13.40.00 # :-D ok, well I'll just do it! 13.40.37 # we should put some ifdefs in the Makefile, so it works for cygwin and linux.. 13.42.06 # many warnings in ipodpatcher.. but there only for some printfs, so no problem.. 13.42.37 # printf warnings shouldn't be hard to fix.. :) 13.43.43 # * stripwax is still waiting for wx to finish rebuilding however 13.43.45 # ups segfault in rbutil, compiled with cygwin ? :-) 13.44.25 # ups? 13.44.48 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.44.52 # * stripwax continues to wait for the build to finish, he'll be up to speed shortly hopefully :) 13.44.56 # :-) 13.45.48 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 13.46.19 # build server needs a kick in the underpants :\ 13.49.15 # * stripwax understands now. the released win32 builds didn't even use the makefile, they were msvc.. right.. 13.49.46 # yes, they didnt use the makefile, the were build with Code::Blocks.. 13.50.05 # does that have its own project format? 13.50.23 # yes.. the rbutil.cdb file 13.50.25 # rbutil builds - woohoo 13.50.43 # Domonoky - ah-HAH! makes a lot more sense now. 13.50.51 # it could use the Makefile, but i didnt got it working, so i used the things from Code::Blocks 13.51.22 # did it not work for the same reasons cygwin didn't work? ;-) 13.51.40 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.51.45 # i dont know anymore.. :-) 13.52.08 # but it seams, rbutil has problems when build with cygwin.. :-/ 13.52.18 # how to reproduce your segfault? 13.52.27 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 13.52.56 # i just started it, and i got the segfault .. now it doesnt Segfault, but hangs.. 13.53.13 # weird, mine's fine! 13.53.29 # oh, except the mouse pointer is an hourglass, but it does work.. 13.53.33 # ah.. it cant get the Manual at moment, 13.53.34 # it isn't hung.. 13.53.51 # it takes a very long time in cygwin to abort the downloading.. 13.53.52 # hm, clicking on the Manual tab doesn't redraw the screen correctly though 13.54.10 # stripwax: it is hanging, while trying to get the manual.. 13.55.07 # not sure I'm seeing the same hanging - mine works (even though the manual isn't displayed..) is that what you mean? it isn't hung (or did you click on the pdf link?) 13.55.37 # stripwax: it should show the manual, if it can get the html.. 13.55.44 # but it's not hung 13.56.07 # but you have the hourglass, so its busy.. 13.56.13 # but the ui still works! 13.56.24 # oh. it just crashed when I clicked on 'install bootloader'. hm. 13.56.25 # yes wx manages this :-) 13.56.53 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 13.56.59 # i'll disable the manual for now in my build and see if everything else seems to work ok 13.57.07 # but something is wrong, the timeout is too long, and i get segfaults sometimes.. 13.57.26 # jeah, try with out the manual.. 13.58.24 # in rbutilFrm.cpp the function OnManualUpdate(..) 13.58.39 Quit The-Compiler (Remote closed the connection) 13.58.55 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh21753@dxb-as74784.alshamil.net.ae) 13.59.46 Join pepie34_ [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-108-21.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.59.59 # hm. looks like http just doesn't work. fetching bootloader stalls 14.00.05 Quit pepie34 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.00.32 Quit kfazz ("Leaving") 14.00.41 # yes, looks like it.. strange.. 14.00.56 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootlloader-ipodvideo.ipod 14.01.00 # is that the right link ..? 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is wx doing a fork or something weird? 14.21.42 # stripwax: could be, i dont know, and i dont know gdb enough.. :-/ 14.22.01 # me is *still* building those wx samples :( but will check in just a moment 14.22.09 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.22.09 # * stripwax can't use a keyboard 14.22.26 Quit hannesd__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.22.26 # :-) 14.23.34 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.23.37 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.24.38 Join hannesd__ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 14.24.38 *** Alert Mode level 14 14.24.38 *** Alert Mode level 15 14.24.38 DBUG Enqueued KICK hannesd__ 14.24.38 *** Alert Mode level 16 14.24.38 *** Alert Mode level 17 14.24.38 *** Alert Mode level 18 14.25.02 Quit pepie34_ ("Ex-Chat") 14.25.49 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 14.25.59 Part Llorean 14.28.45 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 14.28.53 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 14.29.16 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 14.31.25 Quit hannesd___ (Connection timed out) 14.32.50 # PaulJam: fixed 14.33.00 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.33.03 # thanks 14.33.19 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 14.33.59 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@pool-70-107-122-127.ny325.east.verizon.net) 14.34.11 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.34.39 *** Alert Mode OFF 14.35.01 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.35.29 Nick hannesd__ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 14.35.29 DBUG Enqueued KICK hannesd 14.36.33 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.40.56 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.46.01 Quit Butsumetsu ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 14.50.20 # "Build should have been done sin 14.50.29 # *done 77m ago? 14.50.48 # the buldserver hangs 14.51.13 # funny new display ;-) 14.52.37 Nick Tr1ckY^Gone is now known as Tr1ckY (n=Tr1ckY@0x535b39aa.ronxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 14.53.41 # Domonoky: When building on cygwin, imho we should use -mnocygwin so the final executable will work without cygwin1.dll 14.53.56 # agree 14.53.57 # And with -mnocygwin, __WIN32__ will be defined 14.54.06 # amiconn: yes, but first fix the problems :-) 14.54.10 # ah.. nice.. 14.54.17 # hm, wasn't for me. although looks like Makefile redefined CXXFLAGS so that's probably why .... 14.54.46 # Afaik, the ipodpatcher code also relies on that in order to work properly on windows 14.54.58 # stripwax: i found a solution to not need the -DNOMINMAX, will try if it helps for the downloading.. :-) 14.55.06 # cool 14.55.17 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 10 minutes and 51 seconds at the last flood 14.55.17 # * stripwax is **still** running the wx samples build ... 14.56.20 Join Kasperle [0] (i=kasperle@zoidberg.org) 14.56.28 # hi 14.59.34 # what could make the bootloader fail to boot rockbox on an ipod 5.5g 30gb? i had it all working for a couple of months, but decided to upgrade bootloader and rockbox today. i installed the bootloader using ipodpatcher and unziped the rockbox-full.zip onto the dos partition. i cannot get the bootloader to load anything but the original ipod firmware 15.00.06 # any error message? 15.00.09 # Sorry should be -mno-cygwin 15.00.45 # Kasperle: Did you just run the official ipodpatcher, or did you try to install a specific bootloader file? 15.00.48 # stripwax: none. is there a way to make the bootloader output error messages? 15.01.01 # Hold "Right" while booting to get bootloader output, I believe 15.01.05 # Llorean: i built everything from svn 15.01.25 # Kasperle: I've run into the same problem this morning, with self-built bootloaders 15.01.33 # You really shouldn't use SVN bootloaders, they can often be broken for extended periods which is why we offer a binary download. 15.01.52 # oh, i see. 15.01.56 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.02.09 # i've never really bothered with pre-built rockbox binaries before 15.02.17 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.02.18 # * stripwax is low on disk space.. maybe that's why builds are taking forever right now 15.02.28 # Kasperle - it's worth it for bootloaders.. 15.02.42 # Kasperle: If there is output from the bootloader when holding right, it'll be useful, but you should just use the official version and only update when a new official bootloader version is available. 15.02.53 # I'm curious why it's failing, or if it's saying anything 15.03.03 # Llorean: no output on right - just straight to OF 15.03.11 Quit amiconn (" bbl... I hope ;)") 15.03.20 # same here 15.03.46 # Um 15.03.53 # It should give the bootloader text 15.04.03 # it doesn't - honest! :) 15.04.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.13 # Are you 100% sure the bootloader's installed then? 15.04.36 # heh 15.04.48 # ipodpatcher says it has written so many bytes... no visible errors from that 15.04.49 # ipodpatcher says there's a 3rd-party bootloader installed 15.05.05 # I have a bootloader from 12 days ago installed, and holding right works 15.05.16 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 15.05.31 # Though I'm on a Nano, and it is two weeks 15.05.34 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 15.05.34 # I've tried using the wiki version of ipodpatcher as well as svn, no difference there 15.05.47 # obo: "Wiki" version? 15.05.54 # as in using the wiki version to write my own bootloader file 15.06.20 # ? 15.06.22 # ipodpatcher hasn't changed in quite a while, a download of the binary from downloads.rockbox.org is probably the same as an SVN binary 15.06.26 # But I don't know what "wiki" version you mean 15.06.33 # * obo isn't making sense 15.07.42 # * Domonoky gets many warnings and linker errors when building rbutil with -mno-cygwin in cygwin 15.07.44 # by wiki version I've tried using ipodpatcher from the "IpodPatcher" page to write by own compiled version of the bootloader file 15.07.59 # just incase it was an ipodpatcher issue rather than bootloader itself 15.08.40 # also, i cannot figure out where to download the official bootloader, i checked the manual, the wiki, the builds page 15.08.54 # maybe i'm just blind, but I cannot find it 15.09.07 # Kasperle: the IpodPatcher wiki page 15.09.15 # oh. duh 15.09.21 # i only checked the bootloader wiki page :D 15.09.26 # Kasperle: the official bootloader is build in to ipodpatcher 15.09.27 # that version has the bootloaders built into it 15.09.28 # Well the bug predates 13851 15.09.36 # As an SVN bootloader from 13851 doesn't work 15.09.45 # obo: No 15.09.53 # IpodBoot to be precise ;) 15.10.00 # It's in the manual 15.10.43 # There is a direct link in the manual to ipodpatcher 15.10.58 # oh, mkay. i only checked the links and didn't realize you'd need to download a binary ipodpatcher 15.11.00 # So, I'm curious where you're looking in the manual that you can't find it. 15.11.04 # i'm not using a mainstream OS 15.11.13 # so binary ipodpatcher was of no interest to me 15.11.16 # Which OS are you using that the manual doesn't support? 15.11.19 # FreeBSD 15.11.39 # Ah 15.11.54 # the official bootloader is also on download.rockbox.org (rbutil uses this ) 15.11.55 # so i was just looking for links to the literal bootloader files :) 15.12.11 # Kasperle: The linux binary doesn't run on FreeBSD? 15.12.17 # I understood there was some binary compatibility 15.12.20 # it might, i'll try it 15.12.42 # fwiw my svn revision is 13854, if that is of any help 15.12.47 # The manual lists binaries because you're supposed to use the specific versions we provide, so that when you ask for support we know you're using a "working" version 15.15.03 # * Llorean wonders if amiconn's clock changes could be the problem 15.15.31 # ok, the linux binary doesn't see my ipod 15.15.37 # Llorean: I'm binary searching the revs to try and track it down 15.15.52 # some of the ioctls needed are apparently not implemented correctly in the linux compat layer 15.16.03 # so it tries to use a 512 byte sector size and fails 15.16.29 # * B4gder sits in his backyard in the shade, legs up and wifi working... 15.17.22 # obo: My suspect revs are 13767 and 13763 right now if you want a few points to try out 15.17.28 # Domonoky - did you also build wx using mno-cygwin? 15.17.56 # stripwax: no, that probably the problem.. 15.18.04 # Llorean: okay, thanks 15.18.35 # Kasperle: if you can build your own ipodpatcher, use it with http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod 15.18.39 # and you can remove the -DNOMINMAX if you move the includes from bootloaders.cpp to the bootloaders.h file.. 15.19.00 # Kasperle: Well, for now use a bootloader from before June 1, and it should work. Mine was dated June 2 and worked, but I don't know when on June 2 the problem occurred, etc. 15.20.08 # obo: cheers :) 15.20.22 # that works like a charm 15.20.28 # thank you all for your help :) 15.20.38 # Er, 15.20.40 # * Llorean meant Jul 2 15.21.35 # stripwax: if you get to try it: http://www.wxwidgets.org/wiki/index.php/Cygwin 15.22.16 # Domonoky - yep, that's what I've been doing :-D 15.22.16 # * Domonoky doesnt want to recompile wx, that takes so long.. and under Code::Blocks everthing works :-) 15.22.24 # (all along..) 15.25.01 # B4gder: the build server is stalled 15.25.31 # * stripwax tries rebuilding everything all over again just to make sure 15.26.02 # Llorean: hi 15.26.16 # Hi 15.26.20 # I'm back home and I'll probably do a bit of coding today 15.27.20 # Llorean: it breaks after 13763/4 15.28.01 # obo: Alright, you'll probably need to ask amiconn about it then. 15.28.12 # yup, will do 15.28.50 # It may just be that the #defines aren't fixed for bootloaders after that change, or something. 15.29.13 # * Llorean has no clue. 15.35.17 # still red 15.38.11 # eek 15.38.36 # * bluebrother searches ebay for broken minis ... 15.38.51 # why do they get _that_ expensive? :( 15.39.16 Quit petur ("switching...") 15.42.00 # bluebrother - because they can be pimped using 16GB CF cards? 15.46.45 # well, I'd like to pimp one with a jtag connector (if I find out how to connect one ;-) 15.50.27 Quit desowin ("use linux") 15.51.41 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 15.54.22 Quit Nick_Brackley ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.57.32 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484BFC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.59.58 # hm, so building wx and rbutil with -mno-cygwin still fails to build 16.00.08 # undefined reference to ___imp___iob ? 16.00.22 # i got the same.. 16.01.14 # stripwax: are the samples of wx working ? 16.01.30 # expecially a sample which uses wxURL and downloads something ? 16.03.22 Part kretender 16.04.55 # so i would say we leave this damn cygwin be, and just compile directly in windows :-) 16.06.30 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.07.27 # Domonoky - depends what you mean by 'directly'... do I need to install (yet another) build environment? 16.09.28 # stripwax: you need at least a compiler for windows.. 16.09.38 # gcc is a compiler for windows.. 16.10.33 # sure.. but you need the windows version... i use Code::Blocks, it detects any installed compiler.. 16.10.58 # and the you need to compile wxwidgets again.. for windows :-) 16.11.41 # Domonoky - isn't that what compiling wxwidgets using -mno-cygwin does anyway? 16.11.43 # confused 16.12.23 # hm.. perhaps you can also use this wx version xou build, i dont know.. 16.12.33 # about the Code::Blocks IDE: http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads.shtml 16.12.52 # there is also a version with Mingw included, this should work.. 16.13.10 # guess i'll just have to keep trying. i've lost count of how many devenvs I have installed and really don't see the need to install any more.. 16.13.16 # mingw is included with cygwin 16.13.59 # curious. wxurl test indeed doesn't seem to work properly 16.14.25 # so thats the problem.. :-/ 16.15.29 # stripwax: i think you can use also one of those many Devenvs you already have installed, but i think cygwin itself is a bit troublesome :-) 16.18.18 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.26.52 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 16.31.22 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 16.31.33 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp167-213.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.35.58 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.40.58 # back 16.41.58 # as am I 16.46.29 # ok. new build errors, feel I'm getting closer. rebuilding wxwindows with #include added to src/png/png.h to see if that's the problem 16.47.50 # although it probably won't help now I think about it 16.48.02 # JdGordon: is the auto-updating radio debug screen coming back soon? :) 16.48.12 # how badly you want it? 16.48.24 # dlesr 16.48.26 # oops! 16.48.29 # does rbutil need png? 16.48.39 # badly enough. it's really important for working with the Sanyo tuner. 16.48.59 # it will do an update every timeout... (HZ/5 i tihnk) 16.49.03 # too fast? 16.49.25 # yeah, HZ/5 16.49.25 # stripwax_: it uses bin2c to convert png files to c 16.49.47 # stripwax_: yes, for the themes 16.49.49 # that's enough 16.50.01 # thanks 16.50.05 # bluebrother - i mean would rbutil work if I recompiled wxwindows without native png support? 16.50.14 # the buttons are also pngs, but are converted to an array 16.50.28 # it worked! 16.50.32 # well, the icons get converted to cpp files, but I don't know what the resulting format is. 16.50.43 # I'm not sure what step actually worked, but, something worked, and rbutil built under cygwin 16.50.48 # its png, as well as the theme images 16.50.52 # it creates a huge array 16.51.01 # stripwax_: test the downloading :-) 16.51.14 # works fine 16.51.15 # jhMikeS: done 16.51.16 # * B4gder did a disguised offer for the remaining shirts on the dev list 16.51.16 # :-D 16.51.22 # bah, nope 16.51.31 # hm, and even the bug I reported on irc a few days ago doesn't seem to manifest. 16.51.38 # this version works better than ever :-) 16.51.40 # stripwax_: whoa.. now we need the steps needed for this :-) 16.52.00 # * stripwax_ tried lots of things in the end ... 16.52.04 # :-) 16.52.09 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.52.12 # * JdGordon sticks hand up for a tshirt! 16.52.17 # jhMikeS: now done 16.52.27 # stripwax_: congrats :-) 16.52.39 # Domonoky - ok, here's what I *definitely* did, let me know if it works for you: 16.52.51 # JdGordon: then read my mail... 16.53.00 # waiting for gmail... 16.53.18 # 1. configure wxwindows with ./configure --without-expat --disable-precomp-headers --build=i686-pc-mingw32 --disable-shared --enable-debug --enable-debug_gdb 16.53.25 # JdGordon: or check the list archive ;-) 16.53.45 # * JdGordon not that smart at 1am 16.53.48 # Guess there won't be a related event nearby for me :( 16.54.11 # unless you make one! 16.54.11 # 0. export CFLAGS=-mno-cygwin (and CXXFLAGS and CPPFLAGS) and export LDFLAGS="-mno-cygwin -mwindows" (before ./configure ;-) 16.54.22 # make wxwindows, and make install too 16.54.25 # hmm. Anyone interested in an event? 16.54.42 # and I also added *all* of the following to the rbutil Makefile: 16.54.57 # -mno-cygwin -D__WIN32__ -mwindows -DNOMINMAX -DWIN32 16.55.17 # plus your change to link the -win32.o rather than -posix.o objects 16.56.33 # * Domonoky is trying 16.56.53 # but I also added the following to wxwindows src/png/png.h line 1031, which may well not be necessary and in fact probably does nothing to help: 16.56.57 Quit B4gder ("Rockbox TCP exception #04123 - connection reset and user kicked out") 16.57.07 # #ifdef PNG_SETJMP_SUPPORTED #include #endif 16.57.10 # JdGordon: undefined instuction at E59FFC1E :( 16.57.24 # oh bugger... wtf? 16.57.54 # hehe woops 16.58.13 # stripwax_: it works :-) 16.58.32 # Domonoky - oh and I also added your suggestion to move the #includes from bootloader.cpp to bootloader.h 16.58.36 # jhMikeS: fixed 16.58.44 # so, I have *no* idea which of those steps are necessary ;-D which did you do just now? 16.59.01 # JdGordon: ok...test in a second :) 16.59.08 # i left out the changes in png.h , so they are not needed.. 16.59.14 # forgot one silly if 16.59.16 # cool 16.59.22 # need to figure out a better way to do this 16.59.31 # weird though, that was the *last* change I made before rebuilding (prior builds still didn't work) 16.59.33 # i also didnt add -mwindows for compiling wxwidgets, only the mno_cygwin 16.59.42 # maybe I just needed to do some more 'make clean's along the way. 16.59.46 # oh, interesting 16.59.58 # JdGordon: you had only static screens in mind? 16.59.59 # I guess -mwindows is irrelevant for libraries - only executables 17.00.16 # jhMikeS: yeah 17.00.51 # the -DNOMINMAX also isnt needed anymore, (because of the changes in bootloaders.h ) 17.01.00 # ill rearrange the whole screen code to work better for dynamic screens 17.01.12 # yeah, I have just the sum total of all the suggestions so far ;) 17.01.16 # -D__WIN32__ is also not needed.. :-) 17.01.31 # i try to find the minimal modifications needed.. 17.01.32 # 'least it 17.01.37 # 's working now 17.01.38 # Domonoky - great!! 17.04.03 # Hm. Theme installation still doesn't work, (and didn't for me with the rbutil binary I got either). A bug with themes install in rbutil on windows? 17.04.16 # apparently the downloaded zip doesn't contain "the correct dir structure" 17.04.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.04.35 # Anyone against me adding Nimbus 16? Same glyph size as Nimbus 14, but with a bigger gap between lines... :) 17.04.51 # thought there was a 16 already? 17.05.18 # stripwax_: that could be a bug.. 17.05.30 # oh, 19. sorry! 17.05.48 # Domonoky- seems like it! I'll fix it, now I've got a working build! 17.06.32 # :-) 17.06.57 # is there a define which i can check in the Makefile, that i am on cygwin ?? 17.07.42 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.07.44 # __CYGWIN__ I believe! 17.08.43 # JdGordon: Let's have a rockbox meetup just to get those last shirts :D 17.08.55 # aliask: I was thining the same 17.09.12 # But does a two person meetup count :P 17.09.25 # not good wasting a XL tshirt on me though, somone else can have it 17.09.30 # __CYGWIN__ doesnt work :-/ 17.09.36 # oh :-( 17.10.16 # Yeah, XL is a tad big... maybe Daniel assumed that we're all stereotypical overweight programmers :P 17.11.51 # haha 17.12.01 # * JdGordon stopps hammering svn.rb for the night 17.13.18 # Anyone know the frequencies for the oscillators on the gigabeat S off the top of their head ;) 17.13.43 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fc3ed.pool.einsundeins.de) 17.15.00 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-9143.bb.online.no) 17.15.45 # Nico_P: will the new rebuffering code also fix FS#6426? 17.16.31 # petur: it should 17.16.43 # it's one of the deisng goals 17.16.46 # ok (just wanted to make sure) 17.17.20 # hey Nico_P 17.17.24 # hows it going? 17.17.30 # hi :) 17.17.31 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.17.42 # fine... I'm back from a few days' vacation with friends 17.19.00 # haven't done any work obviously 17.20.58 # thats no excuse :D 17.23.22 # Domonoky - argh, seems rbutil doesn't work quite right when running in gdb. wtf? makes debugging .. harder .. 17.23.51 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 17.24.03 # stripwax_: add debugging symbols to rbutil, add -g to the CFLAGS 17.24.03 # Nico_P: is the plugin still having problems, or is it working 100?% 17.24.28 # Domonoky - yeah, I know that .. I mean manual downloading doesn't *work* if launched from gdb .. :( 17.24.44 # or at least, doesn't seem to work for me 17.25.32 # JdGordon: Llorean reported some problems with files not being exactly the right size 17.25.41 # i will try, it but first i will make a working Makefile :-) 17.25.55 # I haven't had time to investigate it for now... it only happens on his gigabeat 17.26.01 # on the sim, the plugin works fine 17.26.09 # :-) I'm debugging the themes, so don't worry about it :) 17.26.38 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.26.42 # Nico_P: yeah, he mentioned that before, was just checking if you maybe fixed it already 17.26.42 Join Tambu [0] (n=Miranda@pool-71-170-214-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 17.26.45 # ah, the check for .rockbox in the zip ? 17.27.27 # hm, error actually is "failed to create a temporary file name (error 267: the directory name is invalid". somehow the "manual downloading" works without gdb, with gdb it gets the wrong temp path? 17.27.42 # hey guys trying out rockbox for the first time. I have an Ipod Video 80GB but I can't figure out how to tell whether I should use the Ipod Video or the Ipod Video 64MB version? Are all the 80GB ipod 64MB? Thx 17.27.54 # Domonoky - I don't know what the 'correct' structure should be for the theme zips but it's failing inside checkZip, yes. I'm stepping through it 17.28.23 # Tambu - you want the 64MB. all 80GB ipods are 64MB 17.28.31 # stripwax_: thx :) 17.29.09 # stripwax_: checkZip, just trys to detect if there is a ".rockbox" dir in the zip. to prevent installing of themes, withouth the right structure 17.29.31 # Domonoky - clearly, but I want to know why it's failing ... 17.30.07 # entry->IsDir is false.. 17.30.57 # but I'm looking at the zipfile with my eyes and it contains a toplevel .rockbox dir 17.31.10 # woah. rbutil leaves crap in my documents and settings folder? grr 17.31.41 # including the fonts zip I downloaded yesterday and the day before. hmmm... 17.32.23 # the zips are saved, for caching.. ( but this is onyl used when downloading archived builds, i think) 17.32.33 # Domonoky - entry->GetName() returns .rockbox\backdrops\mixtape.bmp (in this case). How would entry->IsDir ever be true? 17.32.48 # Domonoky - it seems to redownload anyway so I'm not sure caching is useful 17.33.00 # could be wrong. nothing seems to delete old .zips 17.33.29 # stripwax_: you are right.. :-) 17.33.46 # rbutil could need a bit housekeeping :-) 17.34.04 # indeed. it should use temporary files and delete them 17.34.21 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 17.34.21 # quite why it thinks Application Data on Windows is appropriate for storing temp files I'm not sure.. 17.34.26 # and checkZip is just poorly written, it expect the first entry to be the .rockbox dir :-) 17.34.29 # hm, how do i step backwards in gdb? 17.36.16 # * Domonoky doesnt know to much about gdb.. ( i use a graphic debugger :-) ) 17.36.30 # or more, a frontend for gdb :-) 17.37.15 # Domonoky: ddd ? 17.37.17 # Ok. Couldn't that entry->IsDir check just be removed? It's crazy, the toplevel directory could be called ".rockboxfoo" and it would still work, and it rejects ".rockbox/subdir", which is kindof like the opposite of what it should do 17.37.39 # stripwax_: yes feel free to write a better check.. :-) 17.37.56 # * stripwax_ learns wxwindows api 17.38.01 # wxString .. gah.. 17.38.27 # ok, name.StartsWith(".rockbox/") would do the trick 17.38.40 # yes, every gui lib uses its own string class, its annoying.. 17.39.53 # so if( (entry->IsDir() && 0== name.Cmp(".rockbox") ) || ( name.StartsWith(".rockbox/") ) 17.40.54 # if the new themes repository checks the zip, we could even remove this check completly 17.41.14 # maybe. worth leaving it in anyway imo 17.42.00 Join mickleby [0] (i=456b3a5c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c2af52cc57c87acd) 17.42.19 # tbh the .pngs should be cached, not the .zips 17.43.08 # yes, Cassandra made the caching for the rockbox zips, and when i build the theme page, i forgot to add chaching for this.. 17.43.33 # why are the rockbox zips cached? 17.43.44 # is it so you can install the same rockbox build on multiple devices? 17.45.06 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 17.45.25 # i dont know for sure, but at the time this was written, i think we recommended daily builds, now we recommend the recent build, and this doesnt make sense to cache (and the cache isnt used for this) 17.45.45 # right 17.45.51 # still those zip are not deleted.. so a bit housekeeping is needed.. 17.46.14 # JdGordon: I think my latest commit may have screwed some things up 17.46.27 # if it's done thru temp files it ought to work automatically. maybe that's just a win32 thing though so wxwindows might not be able to do that 17.46.46 # the plugin used to output all my files perfeclty and in the test I just ran only one got out right 17.46.51 # stripwax_: i think there is soem thing like tempfiles in wx 17.46.54 # (on target) 17.47.09 # Domonoky - do they get automatically deleted? if so should use them 17.47.32 Quit daurnimator (K-lined) 17.48.03 # * Domonoky has to look at the doku 17.49.08 # ok, checkZip fixed and then it fails on something else, bah. Failed to open the file on the device, error 3, "the system cannot find the path specified". Path is G:\\.rockbox\wps\Mixtape\mixtape.bmp . surely that's too many backslashes? 17.49.32 # hm. wxTemFile is designed to savely repace a file, but perhaps it can also be used for this.. 17.49.41 # and then it hangs 17.49.43 # the slashes arent a problem 17.50.04 # sure? 17.50.14 # yes it works for me :-) 17.50.25 # theme installation on win32 works for you? 17.50.46 # yes, even the cygwin build one 17.51.03 # looks like rbutil hasn't even attempted to create the .rockbox\wps\Mixtape directory. So no wonder it can't open a file in that dir. 17.51.07 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.51.16 # is the unzip fn missing an arg to tell it to create missing dirs or something? 17.51.23 # i G: a valid drive letter ? 17.51.27 # maybe I'll try "installing" something that already exists 17.51.38 # Domonoky - ... yes .. ! 17.51.58 # you can install to any drive letter, thats good for testing :-) 17.52.00 # it's my ipod. it's supposed to be, no? 17.52.18 # after I've figured out how to unhang it 17.52.43 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 17.53.13 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-9143.bb.online.no) 17.54.22 # Ok, if *I* create the subdirectory on my device first, it works. but that's poor. i'll see if rbutil is just missing that flag to create subdirectories on the device.. 17.55.56 # ok the hang is because UnzipFile doesn't clear up the progressbar . 17.57.01 # it just returns in the middle of the fn. 17.59.44 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.01.03 Quit DC1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.01.18 # Domonoky - out of interest how come themes work for you when they always fail on the checkZip test for me? Does IsDir somehow succeed for you? Wonder if you're using a different zlib from me, that iterates the entries in a different order 18.01.46 # stripwax_: that sounds like it.. 18.02.32 # for me the .rockbox dir is the first entry.. 18.02.53 # hm. or. rbutil.cpp doesn't actually try to create destdir on the device. so I really don't see how it works for you! does it work for you even if you try to install a theme you've never installed before? 18.02.57 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-224-12.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 18.03.03 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 18.03.54 # oh, unless IsDir does something different for you. yeah, could be a zlib thing. messy. 18.07.35 # stripwax_: Unzip creates the dir.. line 335 18.09.54 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 18.15.27 # this damn Makefile.. adding things to the OBJS variable, works but not for CFLAGS ?? .. arg.. 18.19.21 # ah, found the error, the define for cygwin is still not right.. :-/ 18.21.36 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.21.39 # Domonoky - doesn't create for me .. :( 18.23.04 # stripwax_: which check is failing from lien 335 on ? the IsDir check ? 18.24.06 # not sure, haven't stepped into that part yet. seems it just ignores even trying to create the dir so assume IsDir never returns true. As I mentioned, the first entry in the zipfile is just a file. looks like the entry is *never* just the dir itself 18.24.33 # it seems that it depend that in the zips, the dir comes first before the files in that dir.. 18.25.25 # so when you enumerate the Zip there is no entry ".rockbox" before an entry like ".rockbox/bla.bmp" ? 18.27.09 # that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm going to rewrite the code to use wxFileName.GetPath and just always create that path if it doesn't exist 18.27.11 # make sense? 18.29.27 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.30.14 # stripwax_: yes.. 18.33.07 Quit alberink (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.36.08 Join Davo_Dinkum [0] (n=david@c58-107-223-218.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 18.37.33 # * Domonoky cant find a define which is defined in Cygwin in the Makefiles.. :-/ 18.37.52 # * Domonoky needs something like ifdef CYGWIN .. :-/ 18.41.39 # G_WITH_CYGWIN ? 18.43.48 # is not defined :-/ 18.43.48 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.44.21 Join Daishiman [0] (n=osinski@host234.201-253-225.telecom.net.ar) 18.45.24 # hm. sure __CYGWIN__ doesn't work? 18.45.24 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 18.45.30 # gotta go .. back tomorrow i expect 18.45.40 Quit stripwax_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.45.48 # haha, i found something.. some shell magic :-) 18.46.07 # ifneq ($(strip $(shell gcc -v 2>&1 | grep "cygwin")),) 18.46.07 # CYGWIN := 1 18.46.07 # endif 18.46.49 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 18.47.28 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 18.47.57 # Anyone use RockBox for audiobooks? was trying to find a solution to my audiobook problems. but it seems that rockbox doesn't seem to play large audio books in a single file. 18.48.29 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtj8.cable.mindspring.com) 18.50.03 # Tambu: Rockbox plays large files of any sort but M4A, I believe 18.50.24 # llorean: ah.. that would be the problem it's m4b :) 18.50.37 # Try something like speex. Better compression too 18.50.51 # hrm. will it bookmark? 18.51.26 # Rockbox supports bookmarks in any of the supported formats that have seeking enabled, which is basically every streamable format but WMA. 18.51.48 # llorean awesome I'll start looking that up thx 18.52.28 # stupid question but anyone know what happens if you plug in an IPOD with rockbox into an alpine car stero? (normall it loads ipods) I'm guessing rockbox won't be support though? 18.53.35 # Hey all. I have a rockboxed iRiver iHP-120 (awesome player). Works great, but i was wondering how far along the rockbox port for the iPod has come along that I can recommend it to technical or non-technical friends. 18.54.01 # Llorean: do you remember which rev of my buffering test plugin you were using for your tests ? 18.54.38 # Nico_P: It was from SVN revision 46 18.54.42 # ok 18.55.05 # I've tested again on my gigabeat and got incorrect files too 18.55.30 # at first I thought it was because of my changes from r46 but it doesn't appear to be the case 18.56.55 # Is it always 4 bytes? I didn't really do thorough testing to see if it was always the last 4 or anything like that 18.57.54 # * Domonoky just commited the fix to build rbutil in cygwin.. ( and added the info how to compile wx for cygwin to the wiki) 18.57.54 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.58.06 # it seems to be at most 4 bytes, but one of my files is longer than the buffer and is completely wrong (only a few KB when it should be 69 MB) 18.58.27 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 19.03.14 Quit bospaadje ("great minds run in great circles") 19.04.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.06.11 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 19.06.16 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 19.08.19 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-184-188.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 19.08.39 # markun are you around? 19.09.11 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.14.47 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 19.18.34 Join relaxed [0] (n=relaxed@unaffiliated/relaxed) 19.18.35 Quit Davo_Dinkum ("leaving") 19.19.24 # still crashes on ipod photo :/ 19.19.37 # you guys have changed something , in arm handling ? 19.20.55 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Administ@84.13.252.148) 19.28.43 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 19.29.48 # gregj: when it crashes does it report an address? 19.30.02 Join kkurbju1 [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-184-188.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 19.30.04 # yes 19.30.53 # if you're compiling your own builds, have you looked that up in the map file? 19.31.57 Part maffe 19.32.07 # gregj: amiconn has made quite some changes to portalplayer frequency handling 19.32.20 Quit Tambu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.48 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 19.34.32 # Nico_P: again... 19.34.33 # damn 19.34.38 # :P 19.34.47 # obo: how do i do that ? 19.35.19 # have a look at apps/rockbox.map in your build folder 19.35.35 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.35.35 # afaik the map files for the official builds should be online somewhere 19.36.13 # it is happening for my own builds as well, so I go for this one 19.36.44 # thats easier ;) 19.36.48 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF60E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.38.09 # petur: are they? I can remember it being talked about, but can't ever remember seeing them 19.38.29 Part maffe 19.38.46 # I can't find them too... *looks at Bagder* 19.38.52 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 19.39.23 # hehe - I've got a patch that adds maps to buildzip.pl 19.52.10 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.02.25 Quit bospaadje ("great minds run in great circles") 20.05.15 # petur: the recording gain ranges are wrong. I suspect the menu changes may have affected this. There is nothing usable at any level that come out of 52.5 dB (or even 42.5 dB) gain settings. Just noise. 20.05.41 # It used to ba a much more limited range. 20.05.51 # Not sure when the change occured. 20.05.55 # Davide-NYC: it is just whhat the hardware supports 20.06.07 # it has always been like that afaik 20.06.26 # IIRC the ranges where tighter 20.06.48 # then we have a difference in recalling 20.06.59 # you suggest we limit the range? 20.07.02 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.07.12 # Absolutely. 20.07.22 # Nothing usable up there in the 40s 20.07.36 # the thing distorts itself even without input 20.07.44 # the rockbox way of working is to offer everything the hardware offers 20.08.01 # hmmm 20.08.04 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 20.08.32 # the hardware offers a huge range unnecessarily and is "out of spec" with anything useable. This is by design generally I think. 20.08.59 # we have to offer some options to allow rockbox to sound like a bag of shit... 20.09.00 # I'll try an older buidl 20.09.06 # Haha 20.09.45 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 20.10.11 # does it hurt anybody? 20.10.54 # * petur is just lazy - sitting outside and the player is inside... 20.10.58 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 20.13.20 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 20.14.26 # loaded a build from 06-14, same thing. I gues I remembered wrong 20.15.07 # nothing was changed in that area in about a year, so you'll have to go back more 20.16.04 # no it's fine. I'm dropping it. I guess I just never set my input gain to anything that crazy before which proves your point that it doesn't really hurt anybody and is what the hardware allows 20.16.31 # I did spot a minor issue when checking your remark 20.16.35 # It would be more 'industry standard' to limit levels a bit. 20.16.48 # wassat? 20.16.56 # Davide-NYC: i think some time ago the analog and digital gain settings were separate, maybe thats why you remember the settings to be lower. 20.18.03 # the AGC max value is the same for line-in and mic, so it ends up limiting mic to the max line-in level 20.18.17 # or something like that 20.18.23 # which is 48 dB right? 20.18.45 # I don't fully understand AGC as I almost never use it. 20.18.48 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 20.19.21 # No worries. it's fine the way it is. Users should have the good sens to 'turn it down' if it's distorting. 20.19.43 # well it isn't that either, but something isn't right in that area 20.19.43 # nothing important ;) 20.20.22 # AGC adds a max gain setting that also limits the amount of gain you can set by hand 20.20.40 # some use it as a safeguard against themselves 20.20.46 # Maybe I had that set to 32 dB! 20.20.55 # could be 20.20.59 # Maybe we should set the default to 32 dB? 20.21.07 # nah 20.21.15 # nah dude, yeah. 20.21.20 # we should. 20.21.29 # lol 20.21.39 # * Davide-NYC thinks it's a good idea for the record. :-) 20.22.10 # ok, so add a feature request and I'll close it :p 20.22.25 # lol 20.23.01 # the problem is, 1) the AGC max gain is a bit hidden, and most users will wonder why the gain is limited and never find out 20.23.08 Part Daishiman 20.23.14 # 2) the max gain is the same for mic and line-in 20.23.37 # and I don't know if it is worth splitting that setting just for this sake 20.23.54 # and allowing line-in full range does make some sense 20.24.33 # You're right, but we're giving the users at least one way to make rockbox sound like the bag of shit mentioned earlier. 20.24.43 # yup 20.24.50 # Okie Dokie 20.25.37 # a user setting mic gain to +50, experiencing distortion and not knowing what is happening shouldn't be recording in the first place 20.26.04 # I only discovered it by leaning on the player while recording and was like WTF! 20.26.17 # it's like a user complaining his headphones sound loud because he set volume to max 20.26.25 # In two+ years of using the thing. 20.26.29 # So you;re right 20.26.51 # gotta run 20.26.54 # LLRB 20.26.58 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 20.34.13 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@trir-590fc3ed.pool.einsundeins.de) 20.42.56 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.43.27 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-36e79986249e5f42) 20.43.40 Quit petur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.43.48 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.53.56 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@ti521110a080-9813.bb.online.no) 20.58.28 Join elch [0] (n=elch@h1137427.serverkompetenz.net) 21.00.16 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 21.01.20 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 21.04.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.05.30 Quit desowin ("use linux") 21.10.07 # obo: it crashes in set_cpu_frequency 21.10.13 # 58D6C 21.10.24 # 0x00058c48 set_cpu_frequency 21.10.51 # austriancoder: ping 21.13.13 # does anybody think that http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7337 is _not_ a hardware issue? 21.14.43 # Strange it happens to both 21.14.53 # But the fact he said it happens even when in OF and when switched off... 21.15.34 # the gigabeat issue is probably unrelated 21.16.54 # Yeah, the RTC resets whenever the battery runs out of charge or the battery is switched off anyway 21.19.00 Quit chrisjs169 (Remote closed the connection) 21.25.28 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF71D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.31.14 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.34.50 # aren't there tools for dumping stuff from within windows exe's? (e.g. firmware images...) 21.34.57 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.35.09 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.43.18 # gregj: sounds like something for amiconn 21.44.03 # but for now you can try disabling HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ in your targets config file (firmware/export/config-...) 21.48.38 Join amiconn [0] (i=jens@pD9F4C7D1.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.49.34 # amiconn: yup, mate, you broke it again ;) 21.49.46 # ? 21.49.54 # http://www.theindychannel.com/entertainment/13645513/detail.html 21.50.02 # amiconn: the freq scaling on arm/ipod 21.51.57 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.38 # I didn't change anything after July 8 21.52.53 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 21.53.06 # This is the most accurate code, and there are no reproducable crash reports 21.54.04 Join chuckwag0n [0] (n=sdsad@CPE0e7f13458ad6-CM000f9f551c0a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.54.31 # why does the scroll speed make no difference when changing it? 21.54.40 # for: ipod video 21.56.18 # amiconn, on the arm targets is there a way to remap memory.. on the gigabeat there's the mmu, but is there another way 21.57.09 # I'm trying to find the 4k sram in the gigabeat and it's not at the address that the DS documents and the original bootloader uses 21.57.39 # so I'm wondering if it was remapped to a new location 21.58.17 # * amiconn has no idea 21.58.27 # The PP as memory remapping registers 21.58.29 # gtg 21.58.31 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 21.58.48 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@e180234114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.58.50 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.47 # chuckwag0n: the "scroll speed" controls how fast lines of text that don't fit on the screen vertically will scroll 22.01.53 # *horizontally 22.02.21 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.02.34 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-108-21.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.02.40 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e180234114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.02.45 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.04.35 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.04.42 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e180234114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.06.52 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F045.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.07.05 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 22.08.23 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.08.47 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.08.49 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e180234114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.10.42 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 22.11.06 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.14.12 # * ender` yawns 22.15.46 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e180234114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.16.22 Quit entheh (Remote closed the connection) 22.16.38 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-238-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.17.20 # kkurbju1: sram should be at 0x400000000 (I hope the number of 0's is right) 22.18.37 # obo: so, he isn't guilty 22.18.50 # markun: I think you know, the logs are down on gigabeat 22.20.06 Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) 22.20.31 # markun, that's where I'm looking, but I can't write to that memory 22.21.08 # 0x40000000 22.21.24 # I'm using physical addresses too 22.21.33 # so I'm bypassing the mmu 22.21.45 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 22.21.51 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.22.21 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 22.23.04 # I don't think the s3c2440's memory controller can effect the addresses either though so I'm at a bit of a loss 22.24.16 Nick kkurbju1 is now known as kkurbjun (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-184-188.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 22.28.24 # markun, do you know of any other ways to remap the memory than the mmu? 22.29.33 # kkurbjun: well, we mapped all the physical addresses to the same virtual addresses 22.29.38 # except for sdram 22.29.46 # toffe82: yes, I know 22.29.55 # I'll write him a message 22.30.08 # can you ask around if someone has the logs to send to shonky? 22.31.05 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.31.34 # markun: I will try but I try to recover from the problem I had this week and I am not really on the channel actually .. :( 22.31.45 # toffe82: still sick? 22.31.56 # yes 22.31.59 # serious? 22.32.03 # markun: i have some (like last time), but i upgraded my client recently and forgot to enable logging =/ 22.32.48 # markun : not really serious but can't do too much thing, I am good 2 hours then fever then good ... 22.33.22 # Soap: do you keep logs of the #gigabeat channel? 22.33.38 # markun: last time I had this, it took me more than a week to recover completely 22.33.46 # anoying 22.36.34 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 22.40.36 # kkurbjun: is there a reason you're not committing 7379? 22.40.53 # petur, is that the rockboy one? 22.40.59 # yes 22.41.37 # yes, I have a fully rewritten driver from vba that I want to commit, 22.41.55 # I just want to get the right headers in it 22.42.04 # oh ok 22.42.28 # it sounds much better now than that last one, and I was able to get rid of some of the large tables 22.42.42 # so now more gmaes will fit in memory while music is playing 22.42.54 # on the gigabeat that is 22.49.21 # kkurbjun: planning to work on other emus? (sega for example) 22.50.49 # :), I really want to get rolo working on the gigabeat first.. 22.51.06 # and maybe flash booting depending on interest/time 22.51.28 # I don't know arm ASM or asm in general that well and it's slowing me down quite a bit 22.51.49 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 22.52.27 # for example can someone tell me the proper way to write this: mov r2,#0x01FFFFFF 22.52.27 # str r2,=0x56000004 22.52.35 # sorry, that's two lines 22.55.18 Join kfazz [0] (n=ken@76-203-137-185.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) 22.55.42 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 22.56.48 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@dyndsl-080-228-220-034.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.59.29 # kkurbjun: ldr r2, =#0x01FFFFFF mov r1, #0x56000000 str r2, [r1, #4] 23.01.35 # jhMikeS, why load 0x56000000 instead of 0x56000004? 23.01.47 # it's more than 8 bits wide 23.01.50 # yay for ARM 23.02.05 # ahh 23.03.33 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 23.03.36 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-237-139-199.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 23.04.00 # hmm, I get bad expression `ldr r2,=#0x01FFFFFF' 23.04.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.34 # ummm... or is it ldr, r2, =0x01ffffff ?? 23.07.16 # ignore the first comma :P 23.07.54 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.08.04 # that compiles 23.08.24 # will that load the constant 0x01FFFFFF? 23.08.30 # yes 23.08.50 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F045.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.08.53 # ok, great, and I'm writing that to address 0x56000000 23.08.57 # +4 23.09.00 # yes 23.09.01 # :) 23.09.04 # thanks 23.09.50 # that doesn't increment R1 after does it? 23.10.51 # * petur notices flyspray is spraying php errors again :/ 23.11.19 Join webguest64 [0] (i=4a7b3e0c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f78aa3c87008292d) 23.11.27 # HI! 23.11.34 # ho 23.11.38 Join webguest76 [0] (i=47aad683@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a83f982aa776fadd) 23.11.46 Quit webguest76 (Client Quit) 23.11.55 # Does anyone know if it is possible to pass a variable from the pluin to the main program? 23.12.01 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.12.17 # Sorry, that's plug-in, not pluin... 23.13.03 # the return value? 23.13.28 # I tried to change that, but then I get a 'plug in returned error" statement 23.13.52 # true 23.15.23 # I tried to make a global variable, but it didn't seem to work. 23.15.53 # I guess I have to use some sort of RB-> command, eh? 23.15.55 # you could pass a pointer 23.16.14 # how'd I do that? 23.16.56 # in rockbox, create the variable, and pass &myvar to the plugin 23.17.17 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.17.17 # in the plugin, you can access the variable as *myvar 23.17.32 Quit ansivirus ("Leaving") 23.18.38 # I'll give that a try. Thanks! 23.18.47 # Also, can you start a plug-in from the program. Like after a button press? 23.18.55 # sure 23.19.04 # How? 23.19.15 # have a look at how the version/credits or file/dir properties are done 23.19.43 # Sorry? 23.20.14 # file properties is implemented as a plugin, it is called from the file tree code 23.20.26 # so that would be your example 23.21.17 # I'll check it out. Thanks again. 23.21.42 # look in apps/onplay.c 23.21.50 # line 637 23.24.13 # So you mean filetype_load_plugin? 23.25.02 # that line loads properties.rock with selected_file as argument 23.26.12 # hmmm version/credits must do it another way 23.26.47 # apps/menus/main_menu.c line 119 23.27.00 # better example 23.27.25 # replace NULL with &myvariable 23.27.50 # is there some good guide to arm assembly programming beyond the arm7tdmi datasheet? 23.27.55 Quit relaxed ("Lost terminal") 23.28.03 # that thing is pretty difficult to follow, even by microcontroller standards 23.29.47 Quit mickleby ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.29.49 # Just one more thing, how do I pass &myvar to the plugin 23.30.08 # [23:27] replace NULL with &myvariable 23.30.42 # probably better (void*)&myvar 23.31.07 # Sorry, you said that didn't you... 23.31.40 # * petur likes to talk to himself 23.32.29 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.32.55 Join finger008 [0] (n=Alex@i577B5B06.versanet.de) 23.33.13 # So, if I get this right, I need to start the plugin, pass the variable pointer, and then change it in the plugin. 23.33.39 # But, if I start the plugin some other way, I cannot change the variable. Is that right? 23.34.29 Join Michael [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-69-107-58-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 23.35.05 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 23.35.28 Quit Michael (Client Quit) 23.35.42 Join Michael_Davis [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-69-107-58-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 23.35.44 Nick Michael_Davis is now known as Michael (n=chatzill@adsl-69-107-58-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 23.35.54 # oh, goody, gigabeat bootloader fails 23.36.29 # webguest64: are you sure you're up to what you're trying? 23.36.48 # Hi! I hope this hasn't ben asked too often before... Is future support for 2nd gen Nano planned? Or is it simply not possible? 23.38.04 # finger008: when somebody manages to decrypt the original firmware... 23.38.21 Nick Michael is now known as mickleby (n=chatzill@adsl-69-107-58-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 23.38.27 # Ah. 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