--- Log for 15.07.107 Server: heinlein.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 13 hours ago 00.02.48 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.04.07 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 00.06.36 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.06.40 # probably better (void*)&myvar 00.06.49 # what do you mean by this? 00.07.20 # I've tried what you suggested, but I cannot use *myvariable in the plugin 00.09.26 # scorche: where there any consideration about icon sets, for the new theme repository ? 00.09.35 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 00.09.42 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.09.52 # Domonoky: not really... 00.10.03 # should there be? 00.10.09 # the question is, should those iconsets considered as part of themes, or as soemthing extra.. 00.10.59 # they are a part of the theme imo, but i am not sure if they should be treated as anything other than "if you have a particular iconset, include it in the zip" 00.11.08 # and the FMPresets are another set of data, where it would be good to have something like a repository.. :-) 00.11.12 Part Robin0800 00.11.26 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.12.01 # perhaps, but they have nothing to do with themes and they arent something that require a repository like the new one with the actual viewing of that data 00.12.11 Join varek [0] (n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com) 00.12.57 # no for the FMPresets, it would be more the managing things, and of course rbutil.. :-) 00.13.02 Part Robin0800 00.13.15 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.13.21 # ah...that was what you were getting at =) 00.13.40 # at the moment there are various zips for the FMPresets, which is bad to update.. and its not aviable for rbutil :-) 00.13.45 # having the php page for rbutil to easily pull them off 00.13.59 # are there any plans to support 2g ipods ? 00.14.15 # varek: we dont really make plans for new targets 00.14.24 # i see 00.14.25 # varek: amiconn is considering taking it up 00.15.07 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 00.15.14 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.15.28 Part Robin0800 00.16.32 Join ansivirus [0] (n=ansiviru@adsl-76-225-180-38.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 00.20.08 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 00.20.20 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.21.58 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 00.23.28 # petur: yeah, I've just been learning all this, but I have made many changes, and it is worth the effort 00.23.50 # have fun 00.23.59 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.24.15 # Bagder: up late tonight? =P 00.25.04 # well, when I can't do spare time hacks from work I have to sacrifice sleep instead ;-) 00.25.37 # * Bagder backspaces over that to hide for his bosses 00.25.41 Quit varek (Remote closed the connection) 00.25.41 # :-P 00.25.46 # /clear 00.25.56 # hurry!...to the logs! 00.27.03 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.35.56 Part webguest64 00.37.16 # wow matlab really doesn't like it when i copy and paste an array of 16000 fixed point numbers in 00.37.24 # they really need to work on making that program not suck 00.49.15 Quit Robin0800 (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 00.49.22 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.55.43 Quit Robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D") 00.58.58 Join Bawitdaba [0] (n=Sphinx@cpe-72-226-67-164.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.59.23 # there a lot of problems with rockbox on ipod 5.5 80gb? 00.59.35 # i hear a lot of people cant turn them on after they put rockbox on it 00.59.39 # like it wont boot 01.00.38 # I haven't heard such a thing 01.00.43 # Where did you hear this? 01.00.54 # power up is handled by Apple's firmware, so it wouldn't be a rockbox issue 01.01.27 # Infact I'm not aware of anyone bricking an ipod (Short of the devs anyway) 01.04.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.16.02 Quit w0rd54 (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.16.18 Join w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 01.20.19 Join dmon [0] (n=dmon@p57A2E587.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.22.17 Quit entheh ("^~") 01.27.02 # hi, i need some help with my ipod mini 2nd gen: i havent charged it for a while and now its not charging anymore, its not recognized by any computer, on reset i see the battery symbol with the flash. i would like to boot into the old firmware to clean up but i cant manage to get there... 01.27.24 # have you tried using a wall adapter? 01.27.36 # nope, sorry. i dont have one 01.27.44 # just usb cable 01.28.02 # hrm...you might want to get one, or at least borrow one from someone 01.28.21 # did a reset to get the symbol and connected then for some hours 01.28.48 # otherwise, plug it in to a known good (in regards to power output) USB port for a long time (can be as long as 48 hours) 01.29.59 # with reset to get the battery symbol or without that? 01.31.18 # if you wish...if you can, get it into disk mode 01.33.18 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11519.0 is a topic with some helpful advice, but just pay attention to those who are suggesting ideas =) 01.35.03 # okay, thank you very much :-) 01.37.51 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.40.32 # it doesnt reacts on diag mode or disk mode. so i'll be charging it for some days... thanks again for your assistance :-) 01.41.50 Part dmon ("bye bye") 01.42.23 Quit ender` (" Join the army, meet interesting people, kill them.") 01.44.39 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust563.brig.cable.ntl.com) 01.48.49 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 01.51.19 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.52.27 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.56.24 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007060115]") 02.06.49 Join mooser [0] (i=45b592ff@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4ed9673a21a899c1) 02.06.57 # hi 02.07.29 # anyone know if mpegplayer will have rewind and fastforward features anytime soon 02.07.36 Quit mooser (Client Quit) 02.07.44 Part austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 02.11.07 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 02.11.09 Join idnar_ [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 02.24.24 Quit obo ("bye") 02.25.06 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.26.33 Join relaxed [0] (n=relaxed@unaffiliated/relaxed) 02.27.30 Quit chuckwag0n () 02.34.14 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.40.08 Quit ansivirus (Remote closed the connection) 02.44.41 Join webguest51 [0] (i=58d6926f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c4af18455585f617) 02.44.56 # hy 02.45.21 # can i organize the order of main menu? 02.45.49 # Not without editing the source, no 02.46.19 # why the volume of the sound came to negative? 02.47.01 # It's to make it easier for Line Out I believe, so you know 0dB is the line out value 02.47.10 # Could be wrong but that's what I've always thought 02.47.24 Join trina_limao [0] (i=XpecialG@88.214.146.111) 02.48.07 # webguest51: because a decibel rating has an actual meaning instead of a percentage value 02.48.32 Join ansivirus [0] (n=ansiviru@adsl-76-225-180-38.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 02.48.40 # for amplifiers dB-values are used. 0dB = full volume, -xdB = lower volume. even my hifi-amp has such 02.48.44 # most high-end sound systems have the volume displayed that wasy as well 02.49.16 # Rather impressive that I can hear negative decibels though (H) 02.49.18 # 0dB doesnt mean full volume, per say...it means line level 02.49.27 # there area 02.49.31 # Soul-Slayer: it is in relation to the line level... 02.49.40 # there are a possibility to add lyrics? 02.49.54 # scorche: you're right. 02.50.07 # you can add lyrics if you wish, but viewing them is a different matter =) 02.50.26 # Using the sncviewer patch would allow that 02.50.26 Quit webguest51 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.50.36 # Goodbye then. 02.51.07 # markun, I believe I only have the last 3 days of #gigabeat 02.52.33 # my ipod nano dont have microfone, can i turn off the recording menu? 02.52.37 # disable it? 02.52.40 # i have a gap from the 1st tot he 11th =/ 02.53.01 # trina_limao: your ipod nano can record through the line in as well 02.53.14 # line in? 02.53.32 # there is a line in through the dock connector 02.54.02 # it means that i can turn on a mic in jack and record sound? 02.54.53 # line in isnt necessarily a mic in, but yes if you got the right connector 02.56.03 # oh great 02.59.45 # whitc means the icon on the top right? near the clock? 02.59.55 # it appear, and then disapear... 03.00.04 # Hard disk in use 03.00.17 # Comes on when there is HDD activite, in your case, flash memory activity lol 03.00.29 # So it's reading/writing 03.00.48 # "dish activity" is typicalyl easier to say ;) 03.00.51 # errr 03.00.57 # s/dish/disk 03.01.02 # Heh 03.01.17 # But can you really call flash memory a 'disk'? 03.03.31 # in video there are now a possibility to change to the next video and do a forwarnd and backward? 03.03.33 Nick Tr1ckY is now known as Tr1ckY^Gone (n=Tr1ckY@0x535b39aa.ronxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 03.03.44 # not yet, no 03.03.57 # Soul-Slayer: never heard of a "flash disk?" 03.04.12 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 03.04.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.04.48 # can i put a password to acesso rockbox? 03.04.57 # no 03.06.09 # No I haven't, if I'm honest. 03.06.21 # Always referred to them as 'Flash drives' 03.06.57 # Learn something every day I guess 03.07.12 # i have heard them called "flash disks" many times, but yes drive is the proper terminology 03.11.03 # there are a possibility to change icons to more bigs~? 03.11.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=CustomIcons 03.19.00 Quit idnar_ (Connection timed out) 03.24.36 # only have a one keyboard? dont have a keyboard like a PDA? 03.25.02 # its little 03.25.07 # and confuse 03.25.16 # hrm? 03.25.20 # ? 03.25.20 # Eh? 03.25.56 # virtual keyborad 03.26.01 # are confused 03.26.29 # Ohh... You mean having a virtual keyboard like a little qwerty keyboard? 03.26.37 # Instead of characters on random sreens? 03.26.54 # yes 03.27.02 # Doesn't exist, no. 03.27.23 # You can type in morse code though, that's gotta be better than 100 qwerty keyboards 03.27.47 # ... Why isn't there a QWERTY keyboard type virtual keyboard actually? Aswell as the default and morsecode? 03.28.04 # I mean, I don't use it often, but why isn't it there? 03.28.20 # forget 03.28.28 # thanks to all 03.28.40 # its mt firt day with rockbox 03.28.46 # Enjoy ^^ 03.28.58 # and i like it very 03.29.13 # i will try ipodlinux too 03.29.28 # anyone have experience with ipodlinux? 03.29.36 # Everyone in #ipodlinux does 03.29.38 # its better than rockbox? 03.29.42 # lolo :) 03.29.47 # You can't really compare them 03.30.00 # its more hard to instal 03.32.18 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.35.31 # IPL is linux on your iPod. 03.35.33 # Wow 03.35.40 # Rockbox is a music player for your iPod. 03.38.10 # where i find gameboy games for rockbox? 03.38.12 Join webguest03 [0] (i=864c0372@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0a2a60575c28eda2) 03.38.16 # Google. 03.38.29 # About as much info I can give 03.39.03 # btw, concerning the keyboard layout: you can load/create your custom layout that uses teh uifont. see here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts 03.40.04 # Interesting... Thanks 03.40.56 # ook tanks 03.42.37 Quit trina_limao () 03.43.03 Part webguest03 03.46.47 Quit mickleby ("flights of angels wing thee to thy rest") 03.47.12 Quit spiorf_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.51.52 Join trina_limao [0] (i=XpecialG@88.214.146.111) 03.52.23 # caracters like ç and â ă arent show in my ipod? 03.52.36 # which charset did i choose? 03.52.46 # codepage? 03.53.13 # im in portugal 03.53.19 # trina_limao: choose a unicode font 03.53.21 # here we use acentuation 03.53.39 # utf8? 03.53.58 # i have choosed it but without sucess? 03.54.10 # must i reebot ipod to assume newest definition? 03.54.31 # no...as long as you chose a unicode font, it should show them 03.55.26 # or latin1 iso 8859-1 or utf-8? 03.56.49 # UTF-8 03.57.44 Join daniel1234 [0] (n=daniel_r@124-168-142-144.dyn.iinet.net.au) 03.58.37 # Hi, How do I get Wiki write permission 03.58.53 # daniel1234: hold on i'll give it to you 03.59.03 # Hi, How do I get Wiki write permission 03.59.23 # Soul-Slayer didnt work :( 03.59.31 # ok thanks 03.59.40 # utf8 03.59.45 # have you registered an account yet? 04.00.05 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Leaving") 04.00.19 # antbody help? 04.00.42 # yes My user name is DanielDalton 04.01.10 # ok added 04.01.34 # saratoga did you help me' 04.01.35 # ? 04.01.48 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.02.48 # so can i now edit stuff? 04.02.56 # yes 04.03.03 # trina_limao: help you with what 04.03.25 # i dont know witch codepage use 04.03.40 # ok thanks 04.03.44 # how do you sleep when there is +35*C ? 04.03.45 # because acentuated caracters like ç â á didnt word 04.03.46 Quit daniel1234 ("Freedom Chat - Your Home Away From Home | http://www.freedomchat.org | tIRC script by the Freedom Chat Leets") 04.03.49 # work 04.04.00 # Do you have to use UTF-8 compatible WPS's? I've never run into that problem 04.04.52 # trina_limao: which font are you using? 04.05.02 # Soul-Slayer: no..it just dpeends on the font 04.05.30 # default font 04.05.55 # i thought you said you switched to a unicode font 04.06.18 # I think you found your problem then... 04.06.30 # Download the font package and use a UTF-8 font 04.06.41 # unicode 04.06.45 # =) 04.06.55 # i have donnwloaded yet 04.06.59 # i will try another 04.07.01 # whait 04.07.09 # There is only one font package 04.08.27 # i know 04.09.02 # have some more patience instead of asking multiple times as well please... 04.09.48 Quit tchan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.10.04 # lol 04.10.06 # sorry 04.10.46 # Have you downloaded and put on the font package? 04.10.57 Join Tambu [0] (n=Miranda@pool-71-170-214-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 04.11.39 # yes 04.11.42 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.11.55 # Trying to enable cue support in the 070714 build but every time I say "yes" it say Please reboot to enable. So I do Play/Menu reboot and reload rockbox. But when I go check the setting it still say "no" Is there a different reboot it's refering to? 04.12.17 # but now i think that i must combine the right font with the right charset 04.13.01 # Tambu, Menu+Select (the middle button) is _reset_, not _reboot_ 04.13.35 # oops, Tambu, I'm assuming you are using an iPod, are you? 04.13.44 # Soap: er sorry I was doing menu/select not sure why I said play. So what should I do? Ipod Video 5.5g 04.13.59 # long press on play to shutdown, then select to boot. 04.14.31 # menu+select is a hard reset. You wouldn't power-cycle your windows box and expect it to remember what documents you had open, would you? 04.14.48 Quit Soul-Slayer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.14.49 # Soap: :) true enough 04.14.54 # (that came out snide, I didn't mean to be snide) 04.15.03 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Administ@84.13.252.148) 04.15.10 Join kkurbju1 [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-184-188.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 04.15.39 # Soap: hrm.. it still didn't save :( CueSupport: Yes hold play till it says shutting down.. then pressed SELECT and booted it back up. correct? 04.16.23 # aye 04.16.58 # Soap hrm trying it again. 04.17.37 # Soap: still not saving it.. hrm 04.18.57 Quit anathema (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.19.55 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.20.03 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Leaving") 04.20.39 # Why is there such a ridiculous quantity of iPod 5g WPSs? 04.20.45 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.20.53 # I opened it expecting a moderate list... It's huge o.0 04.21.35 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 04.22.07 # Anyone mind loking in their config.cfg file to find out what the entry is for Cue Support to be enabled? 04.22.29 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.23.09 # hmm indeed 04.23.13 # Soul-Slayer, market share 04.26.14 # This is ridiculous, I have an H10 and a Gigabeat... I've been using my Gigabeat mostly, turned on my H10 and the screen size is appalling 04.26.28 # Tambu: 04.26.28 # cuesheet support: on 04.26.35 # thx man :) 04.30.26 # 240x320 VS 128x128... I used to thing my H10 had a pretty nice screen o.0 04.31.00 # jhMikeS: hey, thanks for fixing the radio debug screen, just as i went to bed i thought i probably broke it again :p 04.36.43 Quit trina_limao () 04.37.33 # dan_a: you round? 04.39.06 # Soul-Slayer: : do you use cue support? I got my cue support enabled by putting it in the config manuall and i think it's working as my .cue files are no longer show up in directories with mp3 files. but when I play the mp3 I don't see anything to indicate cue is working ie fwd just beeps at me. 04.41.23 # I don't, no, but have you read the documentation for it carefully? 04.41.50 # well the wiki anyway. and the forums but they were mostly about adding cue support. 04.42.27 # from what I can tell I should be able to press fwd/prev to change through the cuesheet and it said something about showing tick marks on the progress bar.. (my theme might be blocking that though) 04.42.32 # Tambu: have you restarted your player ? 04.43.04 # Nico_P: a couple times. i am pretty sure cue support is working as my .cue files aren't showing up in directories where they were before. 04.43.15 # They are named the same as your MP3's yes? 04.43.22 # eg sample.mp3 and sample.cue 04.43.47 # Here is a though when you put the MP3 name in the cuesheet do you have to explictly list the path? ie mine is /AudioBooks/AudioBook.mp3 04.44.18 # Soul-Slayer hrm.. I had it that way before but I think I changed it since it had spaces in it (this was before I figured out the cue enable) wasn't working. Lemme try that again. 04.45.47 # Tambu: what's important is that the cue and mp3 files have the same name. the filename listed in the cuesheet isn't evenr ead 04.45.49 # And I don't think path has to be specified no 04.46.03 # Nico_P ok great thats my problem then... fixing it. 04.48.29 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.49.28 # muhahaha thanks Soul-slayer thanks Nico_P that did the trick :) 04.49.39 # Enjoy :) 04.49.57 # I got so sick of the apple os not handling my audio books properly. I stumbled across rockbox.. and so far I'm loving it. 04.51.24 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 04.52.45 # The appleOS is like the only part of the iPod apple had a hand in, and even that's got atleast two replacements... How they're winning the market is beyond me, lol 04.53.29 # jhMikeS, are you around? 04.53.50 # Soul-Slayer, it is one thing to love Rockbox over Apple, another to spread FUD 04.53.52 Nick kkurbju1 is now known as kkurbjun (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-184-188.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 04.54.15 # don't know.. my only concern left is I wish rockbox would interface with my alpine car stereo like the apple os did.. but thats probably some proprietary bs.. perhaps I can get an audio in cable for it. 04.55.11 # Tambu, the interface is known and documented. Someone who cares enough (you?) needs to do it. 04.56.07 # Soap, I didn't think there was documentation for the accessory protocol? 04.56.13 # Soap hrm.. I'm not much of developer.. but perhaps :) When yous ay known and documented you don't have any of the info do you? 04.57.52 # safetydan: there is a bit about it in the ipl wiki, but that is about it 04.58.21 # others more wise than I have said it's enough (the protocol documentation) 05.00.44 # safetydan: the protocol is well documented (its just a serial port so anyone with a PC can record what it sends and figure it out with a little efffort) 05.00.55 # its just that we don't have a working serial port on any rockbox devices 05.01.01 # at least that i know of 05.01.16 # Ah, so is there information on programming the controller for the serial port on the iPod? 05.01.23 # Maybe that's what I'm thinking is missing. 05.02.02 # safetydan: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Apple_Accessory_Protocol 05.02.42 Quit rotator () 05.03.23 # are there any docs for porting information? 05.03.33 # scorche, is there a datasheet of the serial controller chip though? 05.03.39 # or do people do that fairly unassisted... 05.04.05 # safetydan: i am not sure, but i think ipl might have serial working 05.04.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.04.35 # well, at least on the 3g http://www.ipodlinux.org/Serial_Port 05.04.50 # Hrm, so we have the documentation. I'm kind of surprised no one's even attempted it yet. 05.05.45 # jhmikeS, I think I found a bug in the gigabeat bootloader that may save some extra power, but I have no idea how much savings to expect, I was just wondering if you still had a setup for measuring power. 05.08.17 # there's an option to disable the clock to the sdram when it's not being accessed and it looks like toshiba set the wrong bit, they set a reserved bit next to it, and it's recommended to set it so the clock to the memory stops when it's not being accessed. I have it turned on in my player and it seems to work fine. 05.08.17 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@70.135.32.241) 05.10.43 # Doesn't sound like it would save hours and hours, but every little helps I suppose, if you think it's actually saving 05.12.37 # I havn't used it enough to know how much it saves, I am not going to commit it right now though because it requires a new bootloader and build of rockbox at the moment 05.12.46 # or if it seems to save 05.12.55 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.13.08 Nick toffe82_ is now known as toffe82 (n=chatzill@70.135.32.241) 05.14.30 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.18.42 Join HellDragon_ [0] (i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 05.23.02 # How would Toshiba manage to set the wrong thing? There must be a reason 05.26.51 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=ubuntu@pool-71-114-151-86.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.31.50 # kkurbjun: Here kinda. I can't image that would account for the extra 40mA though. 05.35.41 Quit HellDragon (Connection timed out) 05.37.54 # has anyone looked at the IPL serial driver? 05.38.02 # i don't even know where to look in their source 05.38.25 # hey jhMikeS, were you one of the guys that got the as3415 datasheet? 05.38.34 # si 05.39.23 # does it mention a wakeup alarm at all? 05.39.35 # .. the config.h says thats the rtc for the sansa 05.40.56 # I think so 05.42.27 # any chance you might be able to get it going if you have some time? (or pass the DS so i can try?) 05.42.58 # I don't think I can pass the datasheet around 05.43.05 # didnt tihnk so.. 05.43.16 # if you get a achance I would be very gratefull 05.43.36 # I'm trying to see if that can be added...gimme a sec 05.45.55 # i didn't see a bug report in the tracker, but could someone confirm that the sansa returns a divide by zero error by going to settings -> general settings -> system -> battery -> battery capacity? 05.46.48 # hmmm...I'm seeing nothing about a wakeup alarm 05.47.28 # chrisjs169: sure does 05.47.47 # jhMikeS: so it's a bug? 05.47.57 # jhMikeS: oh well :( thanks anyway 05.48.03 # of course it is 05.48.12 # lol 05.48.21 # should i submit it to the tracker then? 05.48.39 # * chrisjs169 hasn't submitted bugs to the tracker before... 05.48.41 # * JdGordon will fix that after lunch 05.49.29 # chrisjs169: Are you a divide-by-zero magnet? you found the first ones after I added the trap iirc. 05.50.24 # jhMikeS: lol - this one was actually reported to me by another user 05.50.50 # bugger... the bug is somewhere in option_screen 05.51.00 # perdon, divide-by-zero conduit :) 05.51.13 # #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_INC 0 05.51.16 # right there.... 05.51.18 # WTF? 05.51.34 # why do we even bother with the setting? 05.52.12 # JdGordon: because...well...um...take it out? 05.52.24 # I tihnk thats best 05.52.30 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 05.53.32 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 05.54.49 # jhmikes, rockbox consumes 40 more ma than the of? 05.56.15 # chrisjs169: fixed, did you open a report? 05.56.23 # we don't use frequency scaling, so that probably has something to do with it 05.56.43 # JdGordon: nope, didn't have a chance to since the problem was found so fast :P 05.56.46 # the OF can probably decode mp3 at 40MHz or so, verses rockbox at 300MHz 05.56.58 # saratoga, does the of use frequency scaling? 05.57.02 # chrisjs169: ok cool 05.57.23 # kkurbjun: I can't imagine they'd make an mp3 that had the clock frequency locked at 300MHz 05.57.43 # kkurbjun: until pcm runs for the first time. it drops from 115 to 72 or so after stopping. 05.58.26 # huh, thats interesting 05.58.47 # kkurbjun: but the 115 also shows up just before the HD shuts off 05.59.02 # it wouldn't supprise me if they ran at a locked frequency 05.59.33 # every time the hd shuts off? 05.59.42 # I think somethings not being shut off that gets shut off after calling audio_stop 05.59.45 # yes 06.00.00 # Just for a second. 06.00.31 # It drops from the running mA to 115 back to the stopped value 06.01.03 # how much of a spec sheet do we have for the Gigabeat's CPU? 06.01.04 # except on a cold boot it just stays at the 115 06.01.29 # saratoga, a pretty good one, its a SOC the cpu is an arm 920t 06.02.04 # * jhMikeS wishes he could get the 500+ clock speeds but it's only rated at 300 :( 06.02.08 Quit Buschel () 06.02.30 # did they just release different speed grades? 06.02.46 # if so there's a good chance they'll run much higher 06.02.51 # there are I think -20, -30, -50 or something 06.03.02 # the F is -30 06.03.18 # alot of manufacturers just downbin especially once the process is stable 06.03.56 # the spec sheet doesn't suggest what could be on? 06.04.05 # I was thinking of trying 400 and doing a check 06.04.34 # saratoga: I'm not sure it's about the CPU at all...perhaps a peripheral like something in the ATA controller. 06.04.36 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 06.04.42 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-18f785b5f792f2a3) 06.04.48 # saratoga, there's not much of an indication how much each part consumes 06.05.12 # It has a mA chart in the DS 06.05.23 # so the sheets don't cover the perhiperals ? 06.05.33 # yes, I saw that, but it doesn't cover everything 06.05.51 # why would the core datasheet cover a cypress ATA chip or the like? 06.05.51 # for example this sdram bit, I guess that's more independent of the cpu though I suppose 06.06.25 # jhMikeS: the ata isn't on the SOC? 06.08.23 # jhmikes, I'm trying to find the 4k sram on the gigabeats - it's supposed to be at 0x40000000 and that's what I see in my disassemblies of the of bootloader, but when I try and write/read from that address range all I get is 0's - do you know of any other ways to remap addresses than the mmu on the gigabeat 06.09.23 # actually it's there iirc, but the USB / ATA bridge is separate 06.10.00 # kkurbjun: I've never looked at using the mmu 06.11.11 # well, I'm not really concerned about the mmu, I'm actually using physical addresses, but it's not where I'm looking so I was wondering if there may have been a different way that it was remapped that I'm missing 06.12.08 # I'm trying to patch apps/recorder/recording.c and make is complaining about AUDIO_SRC_LINEIN - was that renamed to AUDIO_SRC_MIC? 06.12.57 # chrisjs169: no...linein is an external source and mic is just an internal microphone 06.14.45 # jhmikes, I wonder if that spike when the ata is being turned off may be related to the circuit that's used for disabling the usb/ata bridge.. do you know if that happens in the of also? 06.14.49 # the spike that is 06.15.09 # it looks to me like boot internal SRAM starts 4KB _before_ 0x40000000 06.15.14 # jhMikeS: that's kind of what I thought, but it's sort of confusing me, as linein is only in recording.c three times (one's in a comment) in the original file, but even so, it compiles fine. Add the patch (recording enhancements) and make errors out 06.15.33 # kkurbjun: no idea about OF...I've never even seen it 06.16.11 # chrisjs169: perhaps go to the REP forum thread and ask mmmm about it 06.16.51 # jhmikes, that might be it, there's definately something there and I can write to it 06.17.00 # ok (actually, noticed linein's listed 8 times - dunno where i got the number three from) 06.17.49 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.21 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181089067.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.20.12 # jhMikeS: meh, i changed it to something similar in the original file and it worked 06.22.04 # the power consumption section really doesn't say all that much 06.22.12 # the only substantial draw they mention is the camera controller 06.24.31 # I'm thinking theres a shutoff being skipped or something but I'm totally making wild guesses but the 115 coming up at cold boost and just before disk shutoff rings as more than coincidental and worth looking into further. 06.25.32 # has teh voltage scaling issue been looked into in any detial? 06.26.10 # not to my knowledge 06.26.11 Nick HellDragon_ is now known as HellDragon (i=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon) 06.26.39 # seems like that would be the biggest savings 06.26.58 # at least on the PP chips at the same process node, you get 1ma per 4MHz 06.28.07 Quit donutman25 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.28.10 # though i guess thats for 2 cores 06.30.20 # voltage scaling? is there a programmable voltage circuit? 06.34.17 Join n [0] (n=n@host86-133-215-183.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 06.34.43 # kkurbjun: I was just looking for one and I don't think so 06.35.14 # at least i couldn't find anything in the manual, its possible they have an external chip handling it though 06.35.30 # I'm not seeing it in the traces I have 06.35.32 # it would make sense, since you could save a lot of power cutting the voltage, though maybe they just don't really care 06.36.46 # the battery life as it stands is pretty good, but having current spikes is a bit concerning, especially after certain events 06.37.09 # not really a big deal, but where'd talk_unit suddenly go? in r13136 (around april..) it was there, and I checked every revision that modified apps/settings.c and didn't see any changes regarding it 06.37.41 # as of r13510 it's there... 06.37.47 Quit Soul-Slayer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.38.19 # oh, my mistake - didn't check the last revision - now i see it's removed :P 06.39.51 # what was the idea putting the gigabeat S stuff in a forked branch? 06.39.57 # won't that just make integerating it harder? 06.41.03 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtj8.cable.mindspring.com) 06.42.38 # what is the make command for building the manual again? 06.42.48 # (pdf) 06.43.48 # i assumed you made it from the configure script like building a sim 06.44.23 # generated the autoconf.h and Makefile 06.44.25 # yes 06.44.34 # Davide-NYC: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto 06.45.00 # I know, but I have no web access (port 80) at the moment (long story) 06.45.19 # dcc open? 06.45.39 # Huh? 06.45.43 Part toffe82 06.46.09 # prepare for spam in a /query =) 06.46.30 # scorche: I'm totally lost 06.47.51 # chrisjs169: talk_unit moved to gui/option_select.c didnt it? 06.48.19 # urg, file utf8x.def not found 06.48.48 # JdGordon: it's possible, but it was removed from apps/settings.c, and since I've spent over an hour getting that patch to work I just commented those lines out :P 06.49.13 # :) i did a big settings.c cleanup mid last week 06.55.22 # Question: is there a way to build the manual for an iriver h120 *with* the RTC mod? (including all RTC functions/plugins etc? 07.01.24 # night all 07.01.27 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]") 07.04.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.13.50 # yeah, I noticed :P 07.15.54 Nick scorche is now known as squisch (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.19.30 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.35.59 Nick squisch is now known as scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.37.19 # having an identity crisis scorche? 07.38.11 # not quite...it is a nick i completely forgot i registered and i realized i missed 07.38.19 # jdgordon, do you have a pointer I can look at for using the new menu api in plugins? 07.39.08 # kkurbjun: a few of the plugins use it... 07.39.17 # thats about your est bet at docs.. 07.39.23 # * JdGordon should type something proper up[ 07.39.27 # hmm 07.39.48 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 07.39.53 # do you know a plugin that uses it properly - a refrence implementation so to speak? 07.40.46 # ill find one for you 07.41.32 # thanks, I'm interested in using it for a test plugin, and I'd like to convert rockboy and doom to use the new menu interface eventually 07.42.10 # lib/playback_control.c uses it in the same way the core uses it 07.42.20 # I tihnk text_editor uses it the way most plugins would 07.42.40 # with a list of strings and the return value is switch()'ed on 07.43.00 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@216-188-249-122.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 07.43.10 # ok, I'll look at that and see what I can learn 07.45.13 # yeah, bassically just search for rb->do_menu 07.45.30 # text_editor.c:414 shows how most plugins would use it 07.47.15 # is text_editor using the old and new interface? 07.47.45 # only the new one I hope 07.47.59 # what about ln 488? 07.48.01 # Im writing up a wiki page for the api, then gonna clean up text_editor 07.48.13 # ha, yes, it uses both 07.48.29 # ahh, ok 07.49.03 # in MENUITEM_STRINGLIST what is the 3rd paramter? 07.49.25 # and when doing a switch should there be a default case? 07.49.43 # menu.h.... its the callback for the menu 07.49.52 # and not really needed, 07.50.58 # ok, great, menu.h helps alot 07.53.21 # jdgordon, should removing the old menu api calls from rockboy end up reducing the plugin codesize? 07.53.53 # or any plugin for that matter 07.54.52 # possibly, it will once we can remove the api wrapper from the plugin lib 07.55.03 Join MonkeyTamer [0] (n=chatzill@h237.231.143.24.cable.snbr.sanbrunocable.com) 07.55.16 # rockboy is getting close to the max plugin size is it? 07.55.33 #