--- Log for 26.07.107 Server: heinlein.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 17 days and 12 hours ago 00.00.51 # nls: I'd like to take a look, but I'm a bit short of time this week... and me taking a look is no requirement before commit anyway, should you feel confident enough 00.01.14 # I guess it needs some info posted to the lists 00.02.16 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host164-157-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.04.36 # Bagder: ok, I will post to the dev list asking for final comments/reviews before commiting, It is a pretty big patch :-), but now sleep, gnight 00.04.55 Part nls 00.11.09 Quit Bagder ("It is time to say moo") 00.13.35 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.14.09 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 00.14.14 # heyho 00.16.50 # Hmm, kernel on cop probably was a fs patch 00.16.56 # * amiconn tries to find out which 00.19.39 # amiconn: 5755 (but I'm sure you've found it by now). 00.20.29 # Thanks 00.20.44 # I didn't find it before you did 00.21.27 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.22.57 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.23.21 Join loan [0] (n=chatzill@Wimax-Mdlln-190-70-90-105.orbitel.net.co) 00.27.09 # I wonder if someone could provide a script which moves language strings from an "old" lang file to the "new" lang file by ID - would that be possible? 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Looks like I need to test the various combinations :/ 00.49.56 # But that won't happen now 00.50.19 # can anyone please help me with an issue regarding the database 00.50.50 # not if you don't ask anything specific 00.51.23 # alright well, i posted a thread in the audio section this morning, and nbody replied so i'm trying this out 00.51.36 # i have a toshiba gigabeat F40, and my database won't initialize properly 00.51.40 Join metalic [0] (i=5b7e2023@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a0eb02b3bfd37473) 00.51.46 # are you using the latest build and bootloader 00.51.51 # yes 00.52.09 # no partition found, insert usb cable and fix it, what have I done wrong this time? 00.52.09 # after the process is "done" and i reboot... 00.52.24 # it says the database is not ready 00.52.41 # lemme update my build and see if i have the same issue (gigabeat f40) 00.52.58 # alright, i've tried 3 previous builds too with no luck 00.52.59 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 00.53.07 # my brother has a gigabeat F10 and has no issues 00.53.57 # metalic: what Ipod do you have? 00.54.43 # he 80 gb 00.54.46 # the* 00.54.54 # I formated it to fat32 00.55.08 # and extraced as described .rockbox 00.55.14 # and installed the boot loader 00.55.30 # I get the loader logo with the girl, then the error message 00.55.58 # webguest39, gimme a few minutes, gotta build it first 00.56.18 # loader logo with girl? 00.56.23 # Im using rockbox-jbuild-5g64MB-20070322.zip if thats any help? 00.56.28 # alright 00.56.32 # metalic: what build are you trying to install? A girl is not on the official boot logo 00.56.33 # that's an unsupported build ... 00.56.53 # yeah I have been told that its unsupported 00.56.56 Quit BigMac ("Ex-Chat") 00.56.59 # you should really use an official build if you want support. Hence the name unsupported ;-) 00.57.04 # but should it not work? 00.57.05 # and I believe the latest pjulius builds where made before the 80GB support... 00.57.17 # oh is that so 00.57.23 # metalic, get the official build working first before you muck with custom builds 00.57.40 # well, the timestamp of your build is from march. 80GB support came after devcon, which was indeed later 00.57.50 # im totally new... Im using that ever the theme creator posted on his site, for maximum compability 00.58.17 # oh okey 00.58.17 # well, we only recommend the official version 00.58.20 # I see 00.58.26 Quit obo ("bye") 00.58.37 # and thats what Im going to have then ;) 00.58.38 # just check the timestamp of the 80GB support on the web site 00.58.57 # oh just one thing 00.59.17 # If my memory serves me right... the 64mb spec is only for the 80 gb? 00.59.19 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@64.252.197.189) 00.59.25 # no other version has 64 mb ram? 00.59.37 # or internal mem... 01.01.07 # the 60gb has 64mb too 01.01.11 # the 60GB has 64MB 01.01.12 # krazykit how many songs do you have? 01.01.25 # if you have the 80gb model you only want the 64mb build, correct 01.01.28 # webguest39, roundabouts 4k 01.01.37 # haven't checked recently 01.01.57 # and has your database been working properly? 01.02.11 # but is their a reason that this guy uses diffrent builds? 01.02.19 # yes. his themes require them 01.02.29 # oh damn it 01.02.33 # his builds have visual effects that "look nice" but are not in the official builds 01.02.39 # webguest39, i don't use the database, really, but it worked a few months ago 01.02.42 # unsupported builds usually only add eye candy 01.02.52 # Its only his themes that made me wanna use this 01.02.56 # oh well... 01.02.57 # plenty of themes look nice 01.02.59 # I don't see any real reason for using those builds. 01.03.09 # there are enough other themes around that look nice too. 01.03.11 # I just wanna use this themes.. 01.03.12 # bluebrother - well.. scrolling margins is a very useful patch.. 01.03.13 # yeah 01.03.17 # okey 01.03.23 # thanks anyway for the help guys 01.03.25 # sure 01.03.45 # hm, the "talkfiles" button in rbutil shows up the same as the "install doom" button icon. 01.04.02 # hm, plus I don't much like the talkfiles button. i'll submit a patch 01.04.02 # what is the database for anyway? i have my songs/files organized in folders 01.04.03 # stripwax: scrolling margins indeed is one. But I can't think of any other that is really useful 01.04.17 # webguest39 - in that case, you do not need to use the database 01.04.21 # and i just wanted my player to play all songs in shuffle rather than whatever folder i'm playing from 01.04.23 # webguest39, for browsing by song, title, artist, album, searching, etc 01.04.26 # it's for guys that don't organize their music in folders. 01.04.27 # it's for searching, sorting, etc by id3 tags 01.04.54 # if you want to shuffle everything create a root playlist and shuffle that. 01.04.59 # webguest39 - great, you can put rockbox on shuffle, and select 'all tracks' from the database 01.05.01 # is there a way to make my player play all songs on shuffle instead of just playing in the directory? 01.05.06 # as i said 01.05.13 # that's the problem.. my database won't initialize 01.05.20 # and i don't have a database at all 01.05.23 # Rockbox is playlist based. It plays a playlist, not a directory. 01.05.24 # ah ,sorry. 01.05.24 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.05.43 # how do you create a root playlist? 01.05.48 # but if you play a song from a directory that directory will become a playlist 01.05.54 # use the playlist menu from the main menu 01.05.56 # it's in the manual 01.06.08 # k 01.06.57 # i guess it's a bit more complicated than the stock firmware 01.07.09 # since i was able to choose between all songs or directory/playlist on stock firmware 01.07.28 # but no matter what playback option i choose on the rockbox, it just plays the songs in the folder 01.07.52 # It's not more complicated. It simply requires an understanding of how Rockbox works. 01.07.56 # Rockbox is based on playlists. 01.08.02 # check the manual. Shuffle works differently than most users expect. 01.08.14 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 01.08.18 # If you are playing the contents of a folder, Rockbox creates a playlist of that folder. 01.08.18 Quit metalic ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.08.28 # and you need to accept that there is always a playlist (the so-called "dynamic playlist") 01.08.37 # alright 01.08.49 # well i guess i'll try that and read throgh the manual again 01.09.01 # but i'm still having the problem with the database and it's frustrating 01.09.10 # webguest39 - it should be easy enough, once you've created the playlist, just load it 01.09.49 # i don't understand why my database won't initialize... tried different builds, and i rebooted whenever it told me too 01.09.54 # stripwax: nice icon -- where did you take it from? 01.09.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.10.03 # bluebrother - um, i just drew it. is that ok? :) 01.10.10 # * stripwax doesn't steal 01.10.10 # sure ;-) 01.10.55 # webguest39 - do you have a link to your thread? or something i should search for to find it? 01.11.01 # in the forum that is 01.11.11 # but reusing icons is quite common. IIRC the other icons are from the tango project. 01.11.24 # i know. if you can find a better one that's cool too 01.11.53 # :) 01.12.32 Quit klbostee ("Leaving") 01.13.36 # Domonoky - (for the logs) - the windows 0.3.2.6 download on the wiki page shows the doom icon for the talkfiles button - just wanted to point that out! but make clean & rebuild seems to work fine 01.15.12 Quit webguest39 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.15.19 # hm 01.15.22 # stripwax: I just noticed that there is an icon for talk files ... 01.15.44 # bluebrother - there is, it's from gnome, but I didn't think it was appropriate 01.15.46 # want to keep your patch open? 01.15.50 # may i? 01.16.12 # well, I thought it was because the button showed the doom icon. 01.16.19 # i think a picture of "a talking dap" is a better icon than a picture of a circa 1950's style microphone 01.16.28 # happy to discuss via comments on patch :) 01.16.34 # hmm, you have a point ;-) 01.16.41 # plus, I like your icons. 01.17.04 # thanks! 01.17.21 # although - i think it's the only icon if drawn for rockbox .. 01.17.24 # i've 01.17.27 # ok, then let's wait what others say about it. 01.17.32 # sounds best 01.19.44 # so, what to do about rbutil detecting which bootloader version is installed 01.20.07 # I'm thinking rbutil could just write a .rockbox/bootloader.version file (when rbutil installs the bootloader that is, of course..) 01.20.31 Quit jhulst (Connection timed out) 01.23.20 # for that to work, presumably the bootloader file downloaded from rockbox actually has to have a version stamp in it.. 01.23.49 Join mike_ [0] (n=mike@64.252.197.189) 01.24.24 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.24.45 # why are all my packages NOT from an overlay represented like this in a pretend emerge? [ebuild R ] app-misc/screen-4.0.3 USE="pam -debug -multiuser -nethack (-selinux)" 0 kB [?=>0] 01.25.21 # it used to just show NOTHING after the download size, now i get [?=>0] 01.25.59 # and in the numbered list of overlays at the end, it shows: [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined 01.26.13 # Who should I talk to to discuss adding e.g. simple zipfiles to download.rockbox.org that consist of the bootloader image *and* a sentinel version file? 01.26.17 Join lymeca_ [0] (n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca) 01.26.25 # oops wrong chan! 01.26.42 # my 4 finger hit the 3 key 01.27.16 # e.g. http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootloader-ipodvideo.zip containing bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod and bootlader.version (a text file containing just "1.6" or similar) 01.28.37 # Or if there's some other way to do this, pm me or update the bullet point at the end of this wiki and I'll take a look http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility 01.33.43 # right ho. gnight 01.38.34 Join _jz [0] (n=jz@m2.april.org) 01.38.38 # <_jz> hi again 01.39.16 # <_jz> why at some point i switched to a theme (azure on sensa e200) and had the font and icons properly changed, and then, switching back and forth other thems, getting back to the same one, icons and text don't change in the menus ? 01.39.33 Join ggw [0] (n=ggw@69.88.229.171) 01.40.13 Part ggw 01.41.22 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.41.34 Quit lymeca (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.43.00 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 01.44.21 # * _jz thinks rockbox is better than amarok :) 01.44.30 # <_jz> this should be a standalone app :) 01.44.58 # _jz, those WPS's don't necessarily change the font 01.45.17 # some do, some don't. it's up to the user to choose their preffered font on some of them 01.45.36 # <_jz> yep but this specific WPS _did_ change icons and font the first time i loaded it 01.45.45 # <_jz> but not afterwards 01.45.59 Quit entheh ("^~") 01.46.56 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-184-188.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.00.00 Quit chrisjs169 (Remote closed the connection) 02.00.19 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 02.08.41 Quit krylon (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.11.34 Join Administrator___ [0] (n=chatzill@96.232.23.105) 02.11.48 Nick Administrator___ is now known as Davide-NYC (n=chatzill@96.232.23.105) 02.16.50 Quit lymeca_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.16.58 Join lymeca_ [0] (n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca) 02.18.55 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.24.29 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.35.31 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-133-213.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 02.36.08 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 02.41.59 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 02.42.02 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp135-75.adsl.forthnet.gr) 02.42.59 # <_jz> why using the "file" menu when listening to a song, with crossfader enabled, i click on the select menu, sometimes it crossfade, and sometimes it doesn't ? 02.43.02 # <_jz> is that a bug ? 02.50.56 Part pixelma 02.52.12 Quit antgel ("Lost terminal") 02.56.13 # <_jz> ok it's after going to the "text" theme (sensa e250) that going back to the azure one doesn't change anything 02.56.24 # <_jz> then at some point going again to azure changed everything (font, icons) ok 02.57.12 # <_jz> after having loaded a saved config 03.00.14 # <_jz> but then no theme changes the backdrop from Azure... 03.00.15 # <_jz> hmm 03.08.33 Join lymeca| [0] (n=lymeca@dsl-74-220-77-35.cruzio.com) 03.08.35 Quit safetydan ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.10.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.53 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@pool-70-107-144-45.ny325.east.verizon.net) 03.17.59 Quit wishes (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.18.33 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.19.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15757.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.20.08 # <_jz> one problem identified: while having the equalizer enabled (e250), the crossfader stopped working correctly 03.23.53 Quit lymeca_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.25.59 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.26.25 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15757.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.28.15 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 03.28.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15757.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.31.39 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 03.31.53 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15757.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.34.43 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 03.35.26 Quit spiorf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.36.12 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host92-171-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 03.38.25 # bluebrother: congratulations on committing rbutilQt :) 03.44.28 # haha I'll test 03.47.06 # does anyone know how to mod the H100 in order to have an autopower feature on USB-AC connection alla H300? 03.47.20 # install.o: dans la fonction « Install::browseFolder() »: 03.47.20 # install.cpp:(.text+0x5877): référence indéfinie vers « operator<<(QDebug, QDir const&)» 03.47.23 # collect2: ld a retourné 1 code d'état d'exécution 03.47.27 # ~_~ 03.48.00 # XavierGr: weren't there a mod to allow that some time ago ? 03.48.09 # there was? 03.48.19 # on forums? 03.49.45 # if you remember any details let me know 03.49.51 # I've made a forum post about it 03.50.08 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11780.0 03.50.12 # I don't remember 03.50.17 # it was 2 years ago 03.57.17 # "21:44:20 Febs: GPL addresses copyright issues, not patent." => GPLv3 adresses patents, doesn't it ? 03.57.56 # You know, as soon as I typed that, I realized that it was too broad a statement. 03.58.20 # :) 03.58.39 # that makes me wonder... has there been discussion on GPLv3 ? 03.58.42 # But I think in the context of the discussion at the time my point is valid. 04.01.41 # XavierGr: ok I read your post I didn't understood what you wanted to be 04.01.51 # I thought you wanted simple usb charging 04.02.31 # Timid: you find my post confusing? 04.02.35 # no 04.02.45 # I understood what you wanted by reading your post 04.02.51 # ah okay 04.02.55 # but I'm a little dead today 04.03.11 # sake overdrink 04.03.19 # Probably I will need Linus' help on that. 04.03.41 # why do you want this feature ? 04.03.41 # He must now if it is possible without external circuitry 04.03.47 # it seems a little bit awkward to me 04.08.58 # am I the only one unable to compile the qt4 rbutil ? 04.09.06 # I have qt4.3 installed 04.11.17 # TiMiD[FD]: I have plans to install my spare H115 on my car permanently, I will provide power to the unit from the car lighter. The car lighter to usb jack adapter has a button on it, so I want to power on the H115 with by pressing only that button. 04.11.34 # Instead I have to turn on both the car lighter adapter and the unit 04.11.44 # Nico_P: What's to discuss re GPLv3? 04.11.50 # I know I am finicky but if there is a way to do it I want to try it out 04.12.23 # Llorean: plenty of things :) is it good ? should rockbox be moved to it ? 04.12.25 # ah ok 04.12.37 # Rockbox can't be moved to it. 04.13.12 # I would be you I would have used the normal AC adapter but ... 04.13.14 # You can't really move away from a license unless that license already contains conditions such as "or any later version of the GPL" as some people do, or unless you get every copyright holder to agree. 04.13.44 # Llorean: I know, but I think some projects are actually considering doing that 04.14.29 # It's possible if they set things up properly in advance, or all the copyright holders can agree. 04.15.22 # i dont wish to move, but fo the sake of conversation, isnt it possible to fork to v3? 04.15.45 # scorche: Not really 04.15.50 # the GPLv2 does not in and of itself permit relicensing to any other license 04.16.00 # if there were a real motivation to do it for rockbox, I think it *might* be possible 04.16.13 # All the projects we've received code from would have to move to v3, plus everyone who's contributed would have to agree to it. 04.16.21 # if you license something to GPLv2 using the recommended language for doing so, then relicensing is possible 04.16.39 # You have to include the "or any later version of the license" bit, then it becomes really easy to relicense. 04.16.57 # LGPL code can automatically be converted by anyone into GPLv2 or any later GPL 04.17.59 # most of the time, when a project is interested in relicensing, it gets permission from as many copyright holders as possible, and then rewrites those portions of code for which permission was not available 04.20.36 # Question for all owners of low resolution main LCD targets: Is there room for another line of text in the Recording Screen? 04.21.12 # I believe the most "full" screen is when using Line Input (this gives two gain lines, Left and Right) 04.21.19 # Please let me know if I am wrong 04.21.27 # ah hi Davide-NYC 04.21.54 # hello 04.22.03 # just to let you know I made the USB charging mod (at least the hardware part).' 04.22.08 # sweeet! 04.22.22 # that's very exciting. Did you take beautiful pictures? 04.22.29 # on your diagram pin2 is connected to pin1 of USB port not pin5 as you show 04.23.10 # I must have made a serious error then. I will make a revised image and upload it to the forum ASAP 04.23.15 # (prob tomorrow) 04.23.24 Join Moforilo [0] (i=9052c506@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-973cc1ec39a24181) 04.23.34 # also for the time being until I find (if ever) a way to wire a GPIO on pin7 I left it without a wire 04.23.57 # so the mod is very simple if you don't want software controlled charging 04.24.16 # what is the downside? 04.24.17 # just connect pin2 of BQ chip to pin1 of USB miniB slot 04.24.35 # can you charge and Xfer files at the same time? 04.24.40 # yes 04.24.52 # given that the port will be able to provide the juice 04.25.04 # take a look on my post it has details 04.25.23 # e.g my hub couldn't keep the green light on while on USB mode 04.25.49 # but when I inserted it on the main USB port it handled it quite well 04.25.51 # was it a 'powered' hub? 04.26.01 # (with it's own power supply_ 04.26.06 # strange thing is that it was 04.26.11 # hmm 04.26.14 # though only 1A for 4 ports 04.26.20 # (instead of 2A) 04.26.32 # were all of the ports populated? 04.26.41 # 3 of them 04.26.53 # I bet if it were only two it would have been fine 04.26.56 # funny 04.27.31 # I need Linus to give me advice if there is anyway to connect pin7 of BQ chip on a GPIO 04.28.16 # then just like H300 we will have a menu option to select if we want to charge with USB or not 04.28.55 # wow, for me just being able to charge from any laptop is enough 04.30.21 # i am using the last build on the ipod video and i dont know how to make the menus more colourful 04.30.26 # at least some icons ! 04.30.46 # it looks like dos when its not playing something,and when it plays its the theme i chose 04.31.17 # Moforilo: something like this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IconSets 04.31.18 # did you download the fonts? 04.31.30 # i got the icons working now, i had to select them through themes 04.31.42 # which fontset are you suggesting? 04.31.57 # the one that suits your eyes best and usage habbits 04.32.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras#Fonts 04.35.13 # thanks a lot, it looks much much better now 04.36.35 # :-) 04.37.09 # i guess displaying the remaining battery time in minutes is wps dependant and not settings? 04.41.41 Quit Moforilo ("CGI:IRC") 04.41.42 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.45.56 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@203.94.131.115) 04.48.42 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2884.dyn.optonline.net) 04.54.51 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.55.51 Join Nyro [0] (n=knperry@70.161.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 04.55.53 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15757.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.56.01 # Hello 04.56.27 # oi 04.57.47 # Anyone up for a little Q&A concerning the Ipod Video? 04.58.45 # * Davide-NYC ducks 04.59.26 # hehe 05.00.17 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.00.18 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.01.02 # Nyro, just ask, if anyone can help, they will. asking to ask is silly 05.01.35 # Well I want to make sure I wasn't going to offend at the get go. 05.01.58 # as long as you've read the topic and followed instructions, you'll be pretty good :P 05.01.59 # This is my first time using the IRC and Rockbox. 05.02.20 # I wasn't able to find anything on my specific question which should be pretty basic. 05.02.28 # File browsing the iPod. 05.02.43 # what about it? 05.03.00 # When connecting the USB it seems it's only available to browse to for a short period of time before the drive drops of the list. 05.03.38 # is there a 3rd party app that is needed to have it show as a portable drive for extended periods? 05.04.01 # i'm not terribly familiar with the ipod, but it may be an itunes problem 05.04.21 # not so sure how to get around it, really 05.04.27 # yeah it comes up for like 10 seconds roughly then dissapears. 05.05.01 # Ok, I was quick enough to get Rockbox copied onto it but now I'm playing with themes and it is a pain in the tuckus. 05.05.37 # i can't help more. i've not used windows in years, let alone itunes or an ipod 05.06.18 # ah, ok. No worries, thanks for reading though. :) 05.07.00 Quit DC1 ("If Obi-wan ain't home then I don't know what the fsck we're gonna do. I ain't got no other connections on Tattooine.") 05.07.36 # Nyro, the google isn't helping me any either. if no one answers tonight, i'd just post on the forums after searching around a bit 05.08.27 # ok, will do. Thank you. 05.08.50 # Nyro: It's an option in iTunes. I don't know which option, but you just disable the auto-sync I believe 05.09.46 # Question: has anyone successfully built a H120 sim with RTC function enabled? (using cygwin under win2k) 05.10.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.10.08 # Ahhh ok! Thx Llorean I'll check that out. 05.10.55 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.14.30 # Nyro: this question came up in the forums today. Search for "itunes explorer" and you'll find a relevant thread. 05.15.26 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.15.45 # Thanks Febs! 05.16.20 # Here is the thread I was thinking of: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11052.0 Read Soap's post at reply #12. 05.19.48 # Great, that did it! 05.19.52 # Thanks Febs. 05.24.00 Part Llorean 05.24.14 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 05.27.24 # Take care. :) 05.27.29 Quit Nyro () 06.17.37 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.22.26 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 06.24.23 # Interesting. 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But I think we need Zagor around to do it. 09.23.07 # pondlife: only if you win an arm wrestle 09.27.04 # No problem 09.29.52 Join morrijr [0] (i=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 09.30.29 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.30.45 # hey all 09.31.44 # Good evening 09.31.45 # morning JdGordon 09.31.58 # how are we all? 09.32.04 # Better 09.32.42 # how was devconpub2? 09.32.52 # Can't remember :) 09.32.55 # :) 09.33.09 # There's a single photo on the forum.. that's the only evidence. 09.33.43 # I have a t-shirt and a mug which suggest I was there... 09.33.49 # :) 09.33.52 # Oh yes, so do I! 09.34.13 # And am about to commence the ginger nuts test. 09.34.17 # I have a sore shoulder, so I must have been too 09.35.00 # That's my arm wrestling... 09.38.45 Join davina [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.41.28 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AA11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.45.41 # hmm is there a reason why i am getting an "incompatible version" error on all my plugins on my H120 09.46.47 # Are you using the very latest current build? 09.46.53 # yes 09.47.25 # Then you didn't extract the entire zip file correctly - your main firmware file (e.g. rockbox.?????) doesn't match the plugins you're using. 09.47.54 # But there was also a bug introduced for an hour or so yesterday where all plugins failed to work. But that's now fixed. 09.47.58 # ok ill try again 09.51.33 # hmm its still there, well, ill try it again in the morning. 09.52.12 # Do you have two copies of rockbox.iriver? i.e. one in the root and one inside the .rockbox folder? 09.53.20 # nope 09.56.28 # hi JdGordon 09.56.41 # what are peoples thoughts about http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5809?getfile=14312 where it adds .bmp to the filename when saving in rockpaint? 09.56.46 # hey daurn 09.58.26 # JdGordon: Looks a sensible patch, although wasn't someone planning a "save as" widget? 09.59.04 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 09.59.08 # I was, but its going to be a pain to get working 09.59.38 # No pain, no gain, as our arm wrestlers know... 10.02.01 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.02.29 # JdGordon: I'd have thought that buffering/playback was a full time dev job anyway... :p 10.02.36 # * pondlife hides 10.03.08 # yeah, but i stupidly got employed :p 10.03.35 # Basic error... 10.03.37 Join HellDragon_ [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 10.03.42 # Ah, you're not a GSoC student... so no pay for Rockbox. 10.03.55 # "Will code for cash" 10.04.00 # :) 10.09.10 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 10.14.18 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484AA11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.15.36 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 10.18.51 Quit HellDragon (Connection timed out) 10.25.00 # amiconn: Did I see it right, that we can use the SVN builds again though you commited the freeze-fix? 10.27.18 # yes 10.27.32 # The LCD speedup is not yet committed though 10.28.36 # okay. thanks anyway for the new H10 support :) 10.28.40 # amiconn: which LCD speedup? H10? 10.29.23 # yes 10.31.02 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 10.31.22 Part kaaloo 10.31.46 # amiconn: I guess I have a fix for e200 that will work globally for the fifo ... kinda ugly but it works 10.33.29 # jhMikeS: As I intend to clean up clock setup (using precalculated values similar to coldfire), and that includes setup without HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ - is there a special reason why e200 doesn't use the 75MHz setup? 10.33.50 # Is it because it doesn't work, or just because it's better to keep the 80MHz set by the bootloader? 10.34.06 # Should I even bother? Perhaps set 80MHz for e200? 10.34.25 # well, I'd rather use 80MHz. It helps noticeable and 30MHz is just too slow. It should be at least 40MHz. 10.34.45 # I mean 75 vs. 80 10.34.56 # The 30 are still too much unboosted if you ask me 10.35.19 # the player isn't really useable at 30..._very_ rough 10.35.35 # Then the lcd driver is too slow 10.35.37 # sansa should have 80 10.35.53 # all the driver does is memcpy 10.36.13 # the rest is DMA auto refresh 10.36.17 # So I wonder why it feels slow for you 10.36.33 # The G5 has a larger display, and it's bearable at 30MHz 10.36.46 # And the G5 lcd driver does not just memcpy 10.37.37 # I don't find 30 bearable at all. Plugins get clunky at 30 but it's ok at 40. 10.38.02 # Well, as long as we don't know a better method for saving battery power... 10.38.03 # Actually it was ok at 38 when I was messing around 10.38.15 # 39 10.38.25 # 30 : 80 is about the same ratio as 45 : 124 on coldfire 10.39.16 # maybe the ratio but the absolute speed around 40 seems about the same as cf at 45 10.39.40 # Even taking dualcore into account? 10.40.18 # * amiconn has the impression that PP is faster at 30 than cf at 45, unless emac is used heavily for some task 10.40.22 # since we're not using that I can't really consider it with basically a single 80MHz cpu 10.40.36 # So we need to make it usable 10.41.03 # I'm all for that and we it not for the 5020 problems it probably would be already 10.41.09 # *were 10.43.09 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 10.44.04 # at least this little fifo scheme makes flushing a non-issue everywhere since we'll need it a good bit 10.45.47 # Maybe that's the problem with the lcd driver? Too much cache flushing? 10.46.28 # it has to or the driver framebuffer won't be synced 10.47.14 # Yes, but I think there might be some potential for optimisation 10.49.29 # it's not really the amount if flushing but just the fact that a flush occurs with too low a fifo. one is enough. 10.49.59 # I mean reducing the frequency of cache flushes to speed up the lcd driver 10.50.15 # I know that the fifo must not run empty, that's a different problem 10.50.18 # having the threshold depend on CPU frequency seems ok and doesn't seem to cause a noticeable higher boost. 10.51.12 # I'm not really sure how to sync things to the refresh. 10.51.45 # Right now every lcd_update() call triggers a flush + dma transfer, correct? 10.52.15 # DMA transfer is constant. it's updated much like a monitor on a PC so basically is has memmapped graphics ram 10.56.02 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 10.57.13 Join ganny [0] (i=9088689c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f4d7ba08d9693c20) 10.58.17 # the gigabeat and sansa have essentially the same setup and no DMA = no image on both 11.02.01 # I would think 0xc2000000 is the dma controller base. 11.03.09 # Bagder: wouldn't module: maintainer1, maintainer2 be more readable, and still be easy to parse? (for humans) 11.04.40 # well I would like it to be easy to extract the info using (future) scripts 11.06.20 # so I borrowed inspiration from the linux kernel maintainer file 11.06.24 # gotta go 11.06.27 Quit Bagder ("It is time to say moo") 11.09.36 # amiconn: seems that way. some registers aren't touched here either (3,4,9). I've no idea what they are for. 11.10.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.10.21 # I wonder why sandisk didn't use the builtin interface to hook up the lcd controler, but used bit banging for the commands and dma for the data 11.10.36 # the gigabeat controller can generate interrupts for vsync and hsync and has counters that give front/back port and the current row/col. 11.10.56 # s/port/porch/ 11.11.11 # Actually the PP502x obviously has 2 different builtin lcd interfaces, one for greyscale (at 0x70003000) and one for colour lcds (at 0x70008a00) 11.12.41 # got me on that. do the renesas chips and the the ipods' chips have compatible command interfaces? 11.12.58 # or similar rather 11.14.08 # And for some reason the sansa lcd driver enables/disables the greyscale lcd controller (afaik), even though it doesn't use it 11.14.32 # The ipod uses renesas lcd controllers (well, except the old ipod color and the video) 11.15.01 # The lcd controller is part of the lcd module afaiu, mounted as cog 11.15.27 # The old ipod color uses a (yet) unknown controller 11.16.11 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 11.16.43 # Apart from the exceptions, greyscale ipods use HD66753 and colour ipods use HD66789R 11.17.01 Part ganny 11.17.36 # this uses HD66789R but there's one bit set that the chip doc doesn't list. could be a mistake and I never bothered to unset it to check. 11.18.43 # but the color ipod doesn't use external interface mode but just port mode like x5? 11.18.58 # It does use the interface 11.19.40 # can't h300 use external mode or is there no hw for that? 11.19.46 # amiconn, jhMikeS: can you make out which controller might be used by the Gigabeat's LCD from looking at the init code? 11.19.55 # I'm not 100% sure why these interfaces exist. They seem to ensure the lcd controller's timing requirements 11.20.23 # jhMikeS: The interface logic is part of the PP chip, not of the lcd controller 11.20.44 # amiconn: I know, just like on s3c2440 11.20.47 # The greyscale logic even handles serial mode. It's used in the ipod mini g2 (only) 11.21.16 # jhMikeS: Then I don't understand your question re X5 11.21.25 # markun: I haven't spotted anything yet that matches. The e200 was an easy one since I worked on x5. 11.21.53 # The H10s are also similar. H10 large uses HD66773R (should be familiar) and the H10 small uses TL1772 11.22.17 # They both use the PP colour lcd interface like the ipod color and nano 11.23.57 # markun: It reminds me of some epson datasheets I came across while googling for the old color lcd controller (unsuccessfully) 11.24.05 # on h300 you write pixel data to a memory address but the HD66789R is capable of using an external controller to have memmapped gram 11.25.16 # I don't know if such an interface could be provided by a chip extnal to the CPU (since CF doesn't have that kind of controller) 11.27.25 # <_jz> how can you manually (ie. by editing files) change the foreground color ? i have black-on-black display since a crappy WPS switch :/ 11.28.16 # It just looks like irivers and iaudios are nearly clones you'd think the same guy designed 'em. :\ 11.31.36 # _jz: open config.cfg (in .rockbox) in a text editor on your PC, look for the "foreground colour" or "background colour" lines (don't know the exact spelling), change one of the values (RGB in hex) 11.33.29 # <_jz> great found it thanx 11.33.55 # <_jz> too bad the jpeg viewer doesn't scale the images so they fit the whole screen ! :/ 11.34.14 # jhMikeS, markun: It looks like it's possible to change the address the sansa/gigabeat lcd dma reads from? 11.34.21 # <_jz> haa it does, but not by default :) 11.34.23 # * jhMikeS should maybe commit the sansa change with scaling enabled since it's quite satisfactory 11.34.33 # amiconn: yes (at least the Gigabeat) 11.34.48 # <_jz> jhMikeS: do it ! do it ! do it ! :) 11.34.57 # amiconn: yes, you can change the pointer during operation to have a virtual display area 11.35.25 # _jz: about 2 seconds from it :) 11.35.32 # <_jz> thus i still don't understand why you have to press the "rec" button on the sansa to get to the jpeg viewer menu ! it's the only plugin to behave like this... ? 11.35.37 # <_jz> yeah ! :) 11.35.47 # <_jz> so it will be in the next daily build ? 11.36.03 # If it's done before that is made, yes 11.36.41 # Hmm. I still don't understand the comment in both drivers though 11.36.54 # <_jz> great :) 11.38.01 # "It may be faster to swap the addresses of lcd_driver_framebuffer and lcd_framebuffer" <= how? 11.38.21 # You have to memcpy even if you do this... 11.38.24 # * jhMikeS doesn't either. you'd need triple buffering to keep the speed and sync the ops. 11.38.51 # Triple buffering? I would expect that to slow things down 11.39.08 # I've run the gigabeat with synced updates doing the framebuffer copy during the vertical blanking interrupt...looks nice but slows it down too much. 11.39.26 # Ah, that 11.40.09 # It might be possible to use 3 buffers, but not in the way of classic triple buffering (iiuc) 11.40.14 # with triple buffering, maybe some slowdown but alot of lcd_update(_rect) calls can be made during the scan and then the state copied at the interrupt. 11.40.22 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-189-5.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 11.40.28 # It would be about the same speed as now, but could be synced to vbi 11.41.16 # I just had it setup as a one-shot interrupt when the framebuffer was dirty 11.41.19 # jhMikeS: did something change in the Gigabeat LCD update lately? jewels looks very different now 11.41.28 # or maybe jewels was changed 11.41.58 # I think jewels was changed at some point 11.42.00 # The key problem is that the framebuffer changes incrementally, not as a whole 11.42.32 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.42.33 # exactly why i'd use another one 11.42.44 # ? 11.42.58 # markun: how does it look differently? 11.43.23 # That's what I don't understand about the comment - iiuc it means swapping the main & extra framebuffers 11.43.32 # if you wait for the scan, you can't do more than 60 updates a second because that's the refresh rate 11.43.42 # markun: maybe you started the new puzzle mode, I guess though 11.43.57 # But even then you need to copy one to the other, because the next changes will require the correct previous state 11.44.24 # so do incremental updates in one buffer...when the vertical blank hits, copy that over to the display buffer 11.44.44 # So it's not any faster than just copying main->extra all the time, only more complex 11.47.04 # pixelma: the jewels fall less jerkie, but you clearly see the framebuffer is being changed while the screen is being updated 11.47.56 # jhMikeS: im not doing anything, im happy to try to find the alignemnt problem, but i only get the problem in the bootloader... so is it goign to be pointless trying to find it? 11.48.27 Join g54pcys [0] (i=iamalive@125-238-160-28.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) 11.49.26 # markun: then I don't know... 11.49.32 # JdGordon: I suppose it's not...could give it a go 11.49.46 # jhMikeS: You could use 2 extra buffers instead of one. lcd_update[_rect]() would always write to the invisible one 11.50.02 # Then the vbi switches buffers if the invisible one was updated 11.50.25 # I only need one more for that...and a dirty bounding rect 11.50.34 # ?? 11.51.47 # * amiconn wonders what's the difference between 'one more buffer' and '2 instead of 1' 11.52.02 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 11.52.02 # "2 extra" != "1 extra" :) 11.52.11 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 11.52.35 # There is one extra buffer already... 11.53.11 # ok, semanitics. in this sort of setup I wasn't considering FRAME or lcd_driver_framebuffer to be "extra". 11.53.38 # * amiconn used 'extra' in the sense of 'not main' 11.54.16 # Hi all, I'm new to this, and am running the latest EvilG-Fusion-60-80G-20070717 build. But I can't get the settings to save. 11.54.27 # But I wonder whether frame sync is necessary - we don't do this on any other target 11.54.37 # jhMikeS: only the alignment of the lcd_driver_framebuffer needs to be changed right? not the one in lcd-16bit.c? 11.54.55 # it doesn't make the nasty artifact there either. 11.55.02 # I've deleted the cfg files to rest, tried holding play to shutdown etc. I noted with the default build it said "saving settings" b4 shutting down, but this doesn't, is it a known issue? 11.55.06 # g54pcys: 1) we dont support custom builds, 2) thats probably before the bug was fixed 11.55.17 # ok, thanks anyways 11.55.18 # JdGordon: no, just try the 176*2 alignment...see what happens :\ 11.55.47 # or would that be 176*2*sizeof(fb_data) (two lines) 11.55.59 # target/arm/sandisk/sansa-e200/lcd-e200.c:112: error: requested alignment is not a power of 2 11.56.09 # jhMikeS: Well, I'm not sure what artifact you mean - during normal operation, no artifacts are visible on any target. Artifacts only start to become visible if the lcd is updated really often, like in the grayscale lib 11.56.53 # amiconn: they give the same sort of thing you'd see on a PC monitor 11.57.12 # But that's unavoidable on those targets, as we cannot read back the internal pointer 11.58.38 # they seem to not have it the same way maybe because it does it's own ops to avoid it? 11.59.30 Part kaaloo 11.59.52 Join amar [0] (n=amar@laplan2-063.net.ed.ac.uk) 11.59.53 # * amiconn wonders what 'sort of thing' jhMikeS gets on his PC monitor 12.00.51 # jhMikeS: oh well... It still shows if I try 256 (which is the closest power of 2 to 176*2)? 12.00.56 # the tearing effects when updates aren't sync to the scan 12.01.03 Part maffe 12.01.16 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 12.01.28 # JdGordon: 512 is the first >= 12.01.37 # trying now 12.01.46 # aligned(512*sizeof(fb_data))? 12.01.52 # * jhMikeS wonders why a power of two alignment is needed 12.01.54 # Ah, hmm. The lcd controllers don't have internal countermeasures - they can't 12.01.56 # sure 12.01.59 # gcc complains 12.02.04 # It would require extra buffers 12.02.23 # is there an easy way to cause a plugin to display the file tree, with it located in a given directory ? 12.02.33 # But As long as the tearing doesn't appear at the same position every update, it's almost unnoticeable 12.02.38 # * jhMikeS wonders why gcc complains about something like that 12.02.53 # 512 still shows the dots also 12.03.00 # * amiconn wonders what JdGordon is trying to do 12.03.02 # amiconn: it's much more unpleasant in the context 12.04.13 # markun: What's the exact cpu clock of the gigabeat? 12.04.25 # * amiconn gives up trying to understand jhMikeS for now :/ 12.05.42 # 294.9408MHz 12.06.29 # * jhMikeS thinks amiconn can get a gigabeat and then see 12.06.30 # thx 12.06.41 # :) 12.06.49 # * amiconn did have a quick look at a gigabeat at devcon 12.06.55 # And I don't want one 12.07.02 # too fast for you 12.08.00 # the fun just happens at a whole new level and it's great if you like emu based codecs like SPC where it's only thing that runs them with all the DSP turned on 12.11.01 # That can be changed, I'd think 12.11.08 # * amiconn whispers 'optimisation' 12.11.25 # amiconn: maybe a gigabeat S? or is 534MHz too much? :P 12.12.03 # Apart from that, I'm not interested in SPC, I don't even know where that format belongs to 12.12.15 # Supernintendo 12.12.27 # Ah, that explains it 12.12.46 # * amiconn wasn't and isn't interested in game consoles at all 12.13.25 # well it would lift the lid on midi and probably anything else 12.14.16 # All I really want to see in core rockbox is _stable_ support of the most common lossy and lossless audio compression formats, in a flexible way, with optimised codecs and ui performance 12.14.24 # * jhMikeS can't wait for something 1GHz + and 16 CPU cores to have lots of fun preemptive SMP to do 12.15.23 # I'm also somewhat interested in mod formats and midi (and video - as an addon), but that's not a priority 12.16.09 # a stable, properly thread synchronized playback.c would be nice indeed 12.17.30 # The lack of stability is the biggest con of (swcodec) rockbox for me 12.18.06 # And that does not only include crashes/freezes, but also behaviour like eating battery (e.g. voice causing 100% boost during playback) 12.19.58 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 12.20.11 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.21.01 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 12.21.17 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 12.22.28 Join thomasg__ [0] (n=thomasg@p57AFEA44.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.25.06 # amiconn: alot is really due to the fact that the code makes no allowance for the fact that yields happen in code that it calls which throws the thread timing off. if you aren't calling code you have complete control over, basically you have to threat it the same as preemptive. yields come and go and throw it out of whack because of it. i also have a way to avoid deadlocks and such entirely - codecs have the message queue and commands are sent 12.27.00 # This system is in mpegplayer right now actually. 12.27.01 # is there a function available to the bootloader to shutdown the sansa? 12.27.45 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 12.27.51 # JdGordon: in power-e200.c I believe 12.29.39 # ta 12.30.55 # JdGordon: I'm still up for getting the insert stuff up to snuff - but not today. Maybe the delay should still be there but I'd like to find out if some better way is available that indicates the card is ready for a commands. 12.31.31 # * JdGordon would love to help, but /me is not a hardware person 12.32.56 # well, if you can test things that's enough 12.34.07 # maybe just try throwing that delay back in where it was and see if it behaves better? 12.34.36 # * JdGordon slaps jhMikeS for disableing button interupt in the bootloader 12.35.10 # why? 12.35.16 # sorry, i take that back 12.35.23 # button_get_w_tmo() should still work 12.36.09 # but interrupt buttons don't post anyway, you need the tick task running for that 12.36.36 Join webguest67 [0] (i=d9e1caf3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e1ae95aeda65f4d9) 12.36.54 # are tick tasks disabled in the bl? 12.37.07 # yes 12.37.30 # so button_get wont work? 12.37.35 # so there's no point in the interrupt buttons. you just have to poll them 12.38.04 # button_read_device will 12.38.10 # righto 12.38.39 # hmm 12.38.40 # Hi, H140: I did a ROM dump to backup the original firmware prior to flashing, the dump creates two files, internal_eeprom.bin and internal_rom_000000-1ffff, can I discard the eeprom.bin file ? 12.39.02 # firmware/target/arm/system-target.h looks to me like it's _only_ portalplayer specific 12.39.30 # Maybe we should move all PP targets one level down like we did with the s3c2440 and pnx0101 targets? 12.39.32 # it is once I split it 12.39.32 Quit thomasg_ (Connection timed out) 12.40.04 # I'd create 2 subdir: pp502x and pp5002 12.40.07 # sure 12.40.08 # *subdirs 12.40.15 # amiconn: that was the plan, nothing happened with it though 12.40.37 # * jhMikeS 's pcm rework is gonna be all messed up now :\ 12.41.07 # I won't do it immediately, but I'll put a remark into said system-target.h and move some stuff from system-arm.h to system-target.h which doesn't belong there 12.41.17 # (the cpu clock definitions) 12.41.43 # webguest67: yes you can 12.41.47 # amiconn: perhaps you could check the H10 with that patch to see if the playback lock after recording is still there? 12.41.55 # thank you Slasheri 12.42.00 # :) 12.42.05 # I want to clean up the clock setup first 12.42.12 # Then I could give it a go 12.42.13 # arighty 12.42.34 # I also want to clean up the pp color lcd drivers (meaning both H10s and the ipod color/nano driver) 12.42.48 # ...porting the speedups from ipod to H10 12.43.15 # maybe I'll dump the sansa setup into SVN (which will make the patch conflict in two places in fiq_record but just #if 0 that for H10) 12.43.27 # or i'll just make another one 12.44.43 Part webguest67 12.44.52 # I need to try recording on H10 at all first, but I can only use the mic 12.45.05 # No adapter or dock for line in, and radio isn't supported yet 12.46.29 # source shouldn't matter 12.48.24 # the e200 does run reasonably at 30MHz as long as music isn't playing 12.49.30 # well this sucks... 12.49.36 # argh! 12.49.46 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.49.59 # * jhMikeS wonder's about all the frustration 12.50.02 # i cant seem to get any button values in the bl 12.50.06 # * amiconn hopes this won't cause update conflicts now 12.50.11 # even using button_read_device 12.50.34 # Two function calls added in: one before entering 24MHz and one after relocking the PLL 12.50.46 # Yes, saw that 12.51.24 # However, I got an update conflict yesterday in a file I changed, even though the svn change was far away from my own changes 12.51.40 # Never had that with cvs... 12.52.19 # JdGordon: just doing like "button_read_device() & BUTTON_POWER" doesn't work? 12.52.39 # phew 12.52.42 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 12.52.53 # button = button_read_device(); 12.52.54 # if (button != BUTTON_NONE) 12.53.00 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S0106001346f5afbd.cg.shawcable.net) 12.53.03 # button always is BUTTON_NONE 12.53.40 # ?? 12.53.57 # * JdGordon doesnt want to give away too much of the surprise :p 12.54.24 # maybe some problem with _button_hold 12.54.50 # no, the first button_read_device in the bl (at the very start) works fine 12.57.37 # I dont need to call button_init_device() before each call do i? 12.58.00 # * amiconn wonders what happens to the lcd controller clock source when it's set to PLL and then the PLL is disabled 12.58.15 # The ipod clock setup routine does this when setting 24MHz 12.59.14 # JdGordon: no 12.59.43 # yeah, just checked, bugger 13.00.06 # * jhMikeS is looking for a stupid mistake but can't seem to find it 13.00.16 # * JdGordon too 13.01.50 # anything to do with the COP? 13.02.13 # to me or amiconn? 13.02.19 # JdGordon: to you 13.02.27 # i woulnt tihnk so 13.03.24 # The COP doesn't execute that code path? 13.03.41 # I dont think so 13.04.01 # ive just added a button loop to main(), which is definatly working because it eventually time-out like it should 13.04.39 # unless the COP runs main()? 13.04.47 # no, should run cop_main 13.05.14 # ok, then shuoldnt be a problem 13.05.37 # bah, no more surprise.... im working on a selection screen to choose what to boot 13.05.38 # actually, in the bl it should be asleep I think 13.05.49 # .. just to annoy Llorean :D 13.06.12 # hehe...now we have a gui in the bl? 13.06.29 # thats the plan... not going to be the default though 13.06.38 # and no disk reading.. have to press a buttont o get it 13.07.06 # maybe we can play spacerocks in the bl too? :D 13.07.13 # haha 13.07.18 # we'll see :) 13.08.16 # if we could play doom in the bl, then you could walk over and flip a switch on the wall to start what you want :) 13.08.50 # blasphemy 13.10.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.10.53 Quit g54pcys () 13.11.45 Quit kubiix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.13.04 # * jhMikeS wonders if giving int_btn IDATA_ATTR would change anything 13.13.16 # or IBSS_ATTR or whatever 13.14.15 # i'm trying by rreading the gpio directly 13.15.17 # button_read_device already does though 13.15.27 # I know... seems to be slightly better 13.15.36 # does sleep() work in the bl? 13.15.42 # possibly pooling too quickly 13.16.12 # it just busy waits 13.16.16 # good enough 13.17.11 # I see no good reason button_read_device shouldn't work in principle. Better to have it right than gum things up with duplicate code. 13.18.05 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp260-160.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.18.43 # yeah, I agree, ive gove back to using it 13.18.49 # hoping the sleep will help 13.21.13 # there's no delay in reading the line levels...just try adding the IBSS_ATTR to button_int. 13.22.02 # got a code snippet to pastebin? 13.22.24 # 1 sec 13.22.39 # the whole thing is playing up now 13.25.43 # http://www.pastebin.ca/634337 is my tree atm... the IDSS_ATTR didnt help 13.28.41 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@pool-70-107-160-17.ny325.east.verizon.net) 13.29.41 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=gil@unaffiliated/krpd) 13.30.29 # jhMikeS: anything look suspicious? 13.30.29 Quit Siltaar ("Aurevoir - www.fdn.fr/~sdescarp") 13.31.05 # JdGordon: not yet. wtf 13.31.28 # ... which part is the wtf to? 13.31.51 Quit DC1 (Client Quit) 13.32.36 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@pD9EB12E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.32.40 # the button_read_device()&BOOTLOADER_BOOT_MENU works? 13.32.43 # morning :) 13.33.52 # no 13.34.09 # someone who's going to make changes to MAINTAINERS should fix the ALAC codec line (Dave is still next to it and not below with a M) and change the file to be either UTF-8 encoded or change Börn to Boern 13.34.11 # jhMikeS: well im pretty sure its not 13.34.32 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 13.34.36 Nick Febs_ is now known as Febs (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 13.34.40 # but you said GPIOF_INPUT_VAL does work? 13.34.50 # rrrr 13.35.18 # jhMikeS: i tryed one version with that in the boot_menu.c file, and something worked, but not as expected 13.35.49 # * JdGordon loves the random shows of frustration in the channel 13.36.40 Join ninjaterrorwrist [0] (n=ninjater@CPE-124-187-24-75.qld.bigpond.net.au) 13.37.04 # why not try just displaying the return value from button_read_device and see if it's returning flags 13.37.34 # PP5020 doesn't like me once more 13.37.37 # hey i need some help for a mate.. he just installed rockbox, and we are wanting to know if it can stuff the original apple firmware.. and if so is there anything that the restore in itunes wont fix... 13.37.38 # ?? 13.38.38 # portal player doesn't like anyone and 5020 is satan's pin number 13.38.50 # thats interesting to know... 13.39.14 # but anyone got any idea?? about whether rockbox can f ur firmware? and make it un recoverable? 13.39.31 # lol jhMikeS 13.39.33 # coz mate just installed it and he kinda stuffed his machine... 13.39.44 # he wants to know if he fully stuffed it 13.40.05 # I don't know the answer but rb never stuffed (aka "bricked") an ipod afaik 13.40.57 # when he installs the bootloader... it cannot find the file, some kinda firmware file... and it wont bring it up... to choose the option to boot for... 13.41.30 # * JdGordon starting to question sansapatchers ability 13.41.32 # is the .zip extracted to the hd 13.41.41 # is there anyone that has a 80gb gen5.5 vid ipod and is using rockbox?? 13.42.34 # there are several people. i would imagine that most of them are not up and in irc at 830 eastern 13.43.01 # this is sort of the lull time, as america is still sleeping and europe is at work 13.43.25 # kk so its def possible to put on a gen 5.5 80gb...?? 13.43.27 # ninjaterrorwrist: Rockbox cannot cause any uncorrectable damage to an ipod. 13.43.33 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 13.43.38 # thx febs 13.43.38 # And yes, it runs on the 80 GB ipod. 13.43.51 # Grrr, red builds. Anyone working on it? 13.43.53 # * jhMikeS sleeping at work and not working at 7:43am 13.44.06 # After converting the clock setup to a switch similar to coldfire, but still using the same values and tricks as in svn, rockbox hangs at boot on H10. 13.44.18 # is there any reason at all when he installed the ipod linux bootloader, that it would nto load the bootloaded and give the choice to choose the apple firmware?? 13.44.34 # its not actually rockbox the trouble is with.. its the bootloader... 13.44.38 # We don't support the ipodlinux bootloader here. 13.44.51 # Mini G2 is fine as usual, even though I changed PP5022 clock setup a bit to obey another PLL constraint 13.45.09 # febs: what do u guys use instead?? 13.45.16 # The Rockbox bootloader, of course. 13.45.31 # amiconn: oy...so what does a switch change in the asm? 13.45.37 # oh there is one... where can i get it?? 13.46.00 # from the rockbox website 13.46.01 # Just look at the instructions in our Manual. 13.46.02 # OK, WTF? i have accidently coded an inifinite loop into the bootloader, and its not happening, whic means sansapatcher isnt installing the bootloader correctly.... 13.46.04 # links are in the manual 13.46.34 # Febs, GodEater: but rbutil is not in the manual, is it? 13.47.07 # ninjaterrorwrist: or try this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=RockboxUtility 13.47.35 # * Febs was on the wiki copying the rbutil link while markun posted that. 13.47.38 # thx febs 13.47.46 # markun: No it's not - well volunteered for adding it ;) 13.48.43 # Febs: I had it ready to be pasted, but was waiting for your reply :) 13.48.47 # Actually, how close is rbutil to being ready to be the official installer for all platforms? As soon as it is, I'll rewrite the entire installation chapter. 13.49.47 # Febs: depends on if we're going with the wxWidgets version, of bluebrother's rewrite in Qt 13.49.54 # s/of/or 13.49.56 # Aren't checks like "defined(LCD_REMOTE_DEPTH) && (LCD_REMOTE_DEPTH > 1)" a no-no? 13.50.04 # Febs: When you do, don't lose the "manual" instructions. Not everyone will be able to (or want to) use rbutil. 13.50.25 # yeah - move the "manual" ones to an appendix or something 13.50.45 # I was hoping to avoid that, but OK. :) 13.51.05 # The install instructions should simply be "run rbutil and follow the on-screen prompts". 13.51.10 # Lear: shouldn't it use #if defined(HAVE_REMOTE_LCD) && (LCD_REMOTE_DEPTH > 1) ?? 13.51.13 # i think you should keep the manually installation instructions in the manual as well 13.51.24 # * DerPapst doesn't trust installers 13.51.34 # so febs, u online for awhile?? my mate will be back laters... but his mum& sis hogging comp atm... would be alot easier for you to explain help him find the stuff coz i was trying to do it all via fone :P 13.51.44 # jhMikeS: Yes, that sounds better. 13.51.52 # febs: and i not even got ipod :P 13.52.00 # Who's Kevin Ferrare? 13.52.04 # me 13.52.13 # ninjaterrorwrist: Your friend just needs to follow the step-by-step install instructions in the manual... 13.52.15 # a problem ? 13.52.19 # TiMiD[FD]: Working on the reds I hope? :) 13.52.20 # TiMiD[FD]: red 13.52.28 # The LaTex source for the installation chapter is a bit of a mess since it has evolved over time to accomodate so many different installation methods for different platforms. If I have time I may take a stab at trying to clean it up. 13.52.31 # I know ~_~ 13.52.35 # :] 13.53.01 # JdGodon: another odd thing is the CPU frequency screen on sansa. It has a keymap but I can't set the boost count. Another no-sense thing. 13.53.14 # ninjaterrorwrist: I will be catching my train to work soon, but I'll be back. 13.53.27 # linuxstb: the -a option for sansapatcher is the one i want to use to install a new custom mi4 right? 13.53.30 # TiMiD[FD]: Glad to see you adding yourself to MAINTAINERS, but you could have committed that as a separate change to demysitfy.c - they're completely unrelated. 13.53.40 # (I mean maze.c) 13.54.10 # JdGordon: If you mean a new bootloader, then yes. 13.54.13 # * DerPapst hates (and hate isn't a big enough word) abbreviations for "you", "are" and so on... 13.54.20 # But tell him to work through the manual first, and then come here for help if he has questions. He will get more support here if he at least tries to do it himself first. 13.55.05 # ... 13.55.07 # yeah definately :D he been trying for last couple hours, then his mum&sis steal comp :P so he cant get to comp atm and just stressing that he might have fully fucked it :P 13.55.08 # jhMikeS: that screen doesnt work? wow, wierd.. 13.55.15 # linuxstb: just double checking... thanks 13.55.21 # you're never satisfied are you 13.55.29 # ninjaterrorwrist: less profanity helps too 13.55.30 # is there a way to get the custom mi4 back instead of the OF mi4? 13.55.51 # godeater: oops soz :P i sometimes dont realise what i type coz i thinking too quickl 13.55.58 # JdGordon: just to set the default. something isn't emptying the button queue properly or else the wheel would post the messages. 13.56.17 # * DerPapst adds "coz" to the list... 13.56.22 # * JdGordon thinks he is going to throw laptop out the window 13.56.25 # TiMiD[FD]: I think I'm halfway through a fix. Should I continue, or leave it to you? 13.56.37 # Lear: I'm about to commit 13.56.38 # i'll catch it and then run :) 13.56.42 # Good. 13.57.04 # I just need a computer which is not a company server to compile 13.57.06 # DerPapst: And "soz"? 13.57.07 # how do i tell ubutnu to not bloody wait before writing data to the usb disk? the new bl isnt being loaded because ubunut isnt freeking writing to the disk event hough it says it has! 13.57.10 # quickly I mean 13.57.40 # pondlife: i don't even know what it means. 13.57.42 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 13.57.43 # hrm...now it's working :\ 13.57.52 # I think I'll commit my completely unrelated change then... 13.57.57 # I usually test on most of the arch available without commiting, but this time I was too confident 13.58.04 # ok 13.58.11 # erm 13.58.12 # wait 13.58.13 # it doesn't work with repeats though which is rather annoying 13.58.21 # JdGordon: running a umount and then an eject should flush the contents to disk 13.58.23 # I just test on h1x0 13.58.26 # and I commit 13.59.05 # yay, my infinite loop is runnig now... but printf isnt displaying anything :'( 13.59.13 # lol 13.59.44 # Lear: should be ok now 13.59.45 # * jhMikeS seems to be the only one having luck on pp today 13.59.52 # I'm going back home 13.59.56 # * DerPapst already has a bl with a menu ^^ 14.00.41 # Share it with JdGordon? ;) 14.00.55 # TiMiD[FD]: Though one could argue that HAVE_LCD_COLOR is a better check for the LCD_RGBPACK macro. :) 14.01.10 # it's Loader 2. i doubt he want it :I 14.01.14 # *:P 14.01.22 # I don't know ... 14.02.24 # Me neither, really. Just seemed that way when I looked at the definition in lcd.h... 14.02.42 # it also works on remote 2bit lcd 14.03.01 Quit Nick_Brackley ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.03.13 # indeed 14.03.21 # feel free to change that ! 14.03.49 # it was like that in the original code so I didn't really thought about it, just c&p 14.04.11 # btw there is a color boolean in the screnn struct so it should be used as well in that case 14.05.41 Join Siltaar [0] (i=c134d0e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ac8f9791af46681) 14.09.14 # * JdGordon getting mighty frustrated 14.11.20 # * GodEater is still hoping someone will tell him how to control the file browser from a plugin 14.11.40 # jhMikeS: you sure sleep busy waits in the BL? it calls switch_thread()? 14.12.07 # GodEater: you cant really... you can show it, but it acts exactly like the file browser 14.12.19 # i.e, you cant get the selected file (which is what i assume you want) 14.12.37 Join Hexx [0] (i=51d2ca8f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8ac96a3e837a3568) 14.12.47 # JdGordon: indeed it does call that...oops 14.13.10 # Hi 14.13.21 # JdGordon: no - I want to set the CWD that the file browser is looking at actually 14.13.31 # JdGordon: try udelay(10000000/2)? 14.13.44 # 1000000/2 even 14.13.46 # GodEater: then call set_current_file() (might have to put that in the plugin api 14.14.25 # Did anyone notice, that in the current build for Archos Studio-models you CAN'T fast-forward or fast-rewind in tracks?? The Player freezes. Any suggestions what to do? 14.14.25 # * GodEater goes to look at api.h 14.14.52 # plugin.h 14.15.04 # that's what I meant 14.15.06 # and it's not in there 14.15.18 # ok, you need to add it. 14.15.25 # i dont tihnk thats such a good idea though... 14.15.30 # what do you want to use it for? 14.15.32 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@gifn3.fpl.com) 14.15.48 # this favourites plugin someone requested 14.16.04 # so they can quickly jump to certain directories in their file tree 14.16.07 # oh ok, i guess thats ok 14.16.32 # * DerPapst wonders what a favorite plugin could be... 14.16.43 # Hexx: there seems to be a bug... I just tried on my Ondio and fast-forward/rewind seems to work on second try 14.16.50 # * DerPapst figures... ;) 14.17.25 # looks like a button handling problem... 14.18.00 # current_tick is updated in the bl right? 14.18.06 # * JdGordon almost giving up 14.18.24 # yes...faked with USEC_TIMER/10000 14.19.14 # @pixelma: I tried it on my girlfirend's H10, and it works there too 14.19.52 # you mean correctly or only on second try? 14.20.43 # So I guess I have to wait until this is fixed... My old rockbox build on this player was really really old, and I didn't make a Backup. Guess I'm stuck... 14.20.53 # correctly 14.21.13 Quit Rob2222 () 14.22.01 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]") 14.22.47 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.22.49 # JdGordon: There doesn't appear to be a /* tree */ comment in plugin.h anywhere, should I just add set_current_file to the bottom of the /* misc */ block ? 14.23.13 # no, add it to the very end of the struct 14.23.23 # GodEater: New functions should initially be added to the end of the struct - read the comments near the top of plugin.h 14.23.41 # where can I find docs on how to turn down the volume while playing a game on the gigabeat 14.23.45 # eeek 14.23.50 # * amiconn found his bug 14.24.04 # Hexx: I'm currently updating to the latest build (the previous was a few days old), if the bug is there too, I'll complain to JdGordon ;) 14.24.06 # ! 14.24.21 Part maffe 14.24.22 # one bug down...now JdGordon just need to find his :) 14.24.38 # Well, if I select source #2 I should program source #2 as well, shouldn't I? 14.24.49 # It was pure luck that it worked on mini G2 14.24.50 # * JdGordon just reverted the tree... giving up 14.24.58 # linuxstb: ah yes - I've read that I don't know how many times in the last few days, and completely failed to remember it! 14.25.00 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 14.25.03 # pixelma: cant wait :) 14.25.55 # @pixelma: wow, thanks for the quick help... ^^ 14.26.14 # JdGordon: persistence is futile! :P 14.26.18 # hehe 14.26.27 # TiMiD[FD]: Don't think I'm complaining about everything you commit, but MAINTAINERS is now broken wrt character encodings... 14.27.42 # wasn't already broken before his commit? 14.27.45 # it could just be me, but set_current_file also appears to not have a prototype in tree.h - so should I add one ? 14.27.55 # Okay, than I'll check the current build of tomorrow or so... thanks! 14.28.13 # DerPapst: No, it was fine iso-8859-1 14.29.05 # * linuxstb doesn't care which encoding is used, but the entire file should be the same one... 14.29.22 # ok. then it faild at displaying the ö in this web svn browser. 14.30.00 # anyone ? 14.30.08 # * amiconn started a stability test 14.30.13 # DerPapst: I think the viewvc script sends a utf-8 header - so iso-8859-1 files are always wrong there. 14.30.41 # THAT EXPLAINS IT : 14.31.10 # Hexx: yepps, still present... JdGordon, something is wrong with keycontrols in the WPS on Archos (Ondio and Player at least) - ff/rw only works on second try... 14.31.45 # * DerPapst hates capslock :-/ 14.32.16 # GodEater: Is set_current_file defined as "static" ? 14.32.29 # yes 14.32.47 # So clock select 4 doesn't work on H10 as well. iPods have source #2 set to clock select 7 by the loader, hence it worked 14.32.48 # JdGordon: the status icon changes, but stays there even if I release the key after first try > on second try it fast forward/rewinds and then continues as normal 14.33.09 # and i hate it when my cpu is at 100%. Even textinput is sluggish :D 14.33.27 # pixelma: Most probably the new action context handling 14.33.33 # linuxstb: I guess it'll have to be unstatic'd if I want to use it from the plugin api then ? 14.34.01 # I would think repairing that shouldn't be too difficult 14.34.17 # JdGordon: btw. on M5 it works alright 14.35.01 # How many players do u have there...? ^^ 14.35.29 # these 2 - and compared to other people around here... 14.35.33 # jac0b: some plugins have a menu where you can change the volume 14.37.29 # yeah but how do I get to the menu say on jewels and bubble 14.37.58 # * GodEater thinks about giving up for the day 14.38.04 # GodEater: Yes, you'll need to make it "unstatic" and add the prototype to tree.h 14.38.47 # jac0b: I would expect the menu button.. 14.38.53 # * GodEater wonders if such fundamental changes mean his plugin will ultimately be rejected 14.39.29 # markun: Couldn't the default button handler be used to add volume +/- on the volume buttons in plugins (at least ones which don't use them for itself) 14.40.20 # linuxstb: yes, it could 14.40.23 # okay I'll try that, I am trying to show my g/f how to use RB 14.41.01 # I like the plugin actions. I'm wanted to make the mpegplayer use it and add actions for the remote control 14.41.29 # GodEater: I don't think it would be a problem - adding a function to the plugin API isn't a rare thing. 14.41.47 # no - but someone made set_current_file() static for a reason 14.41.58 # Only because it's never used anywhere else. 14.42.02 # (I expect...) 14.42.05 # hahaha 14.42.18 Quit jac0b ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]") 14.42.38 # * GodEater has remembered to jump the PLUGIN_API_VERSION #define too 14.43.13 # * GodEater now has to read up on using set_current_file with directories 14.43.25 # woot :) 14.44.15 # "woot" ? 14.45.29 Quit Hexx ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.45.58 Join bluebrother [0] (i=lh8kPZkB@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 14.46.33 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W00t#W 14.46.45 # I know what it means - I wondered why you were saying it ;) 14.46.48 Join Nick_Brackley [0] (i=7dff0332@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-328466da5c749d1b) 14.47.41 # because you remembered to bump the plugin_api_version :P 14.47.56 # or maybe because i'm a litte bored 14.48.01 # ah 14.48.20 # waiting for my pc to finish rendering a panorama :P 14.51.59 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3107.gwdg.de) 14.56.22 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 14.56.37 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S0106001346f5afbd.cg.shawcable.net) 15.08.31 # GodEater: set_current_file should work fine with direftories.. if the path end in / it will load into the dir, if it doesnt it will select the dir 1 folder up.. 15.08.38 # pixelma: sorry, i dont understand 15.10.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.12.44 # can someone type the o with the 2 dots please? 15.14.31 # lower case? 15.14.45 # ö 15.14.58 # ta 15.15.08 # * pondlife is amazed that worked 15.15.09 # heh 15.15.10 # pondlife: on windows? - won't help him much 15.15.27 # Or didn't it work?? 15.15.58 # guess he needs it for maintainers? 15.16.11 # yes but it's in the wrong codepage - I think he needs someone who can provide him an ö in utf-8 15.16.33 # ö? 15.16.42 # löl 15.16.53 # I was going for 8859-1 like the rest of the code 15.17.19 # ah, then the first one should be alright, I think 15.17.30 # according to kcharselect it's u+00f6 15.18.04 # except now the diff is all wrong, the é is becoming � and Bjorns name is still wrong :'( 15.18.21 # heh 15.18.53 # *grrr* 15.18.58 # if I want to fast forward or rewind in a track (in the wps), I hold "left" or "right" only the play status icon changes but progress in the wps is frozen (also playback), that stays this way even if I release the key now... then if I hold "left" or "right" again it will finally fast farward/rewind, releasing the key now will start playback at the new postition (as normal) 15.19.14 # * bluebrother looks how to enable the accessibility thingy in Qt but there doesn't seem to be much documentation around 15.19.15 # ^JdGordon 15.19.35 # pixelma: does that happen in the sim? 15.19.39 # * GodEater watches his plugin blow up spectacularly after using set_current_file() 15.19.43 # sounds like a keymap issue for sure 15.19.49 # hehe 15.19.54 # JdGordon: haven't tried yet, wait a sec 15.20.37 # GodEater: im not 100% sure, but you might ave to tell the browser to reload, which might not be so trivial 15.20.56 # hmm - actually - I don't think it is blowing up there 15.20.57 # JdGordon: yes, it does (tried with an fmrecorder sim as of yesterday) 15.21.14 # is it all hwcodec targets? 15.21.42 # Hello... I have a problem with the lenght of a buffer... If I call too many talk_file function in a short time with enqueue option, the sounds are not well played... (buffer overflow) 15.21.44 # at least h10 worked normal. 15.22.00 # seems to affect all Archos then (Hexx reported it for player, confirmed on Ondio and fmrec-sim) 15.22.19 # JdGordon: have you solved the encoding problem in docs/maintainers ? 15.22.26 # no 15.22.27 # * Nico_P thinks he might have a fix 15.22.36 # * JdGordon lets Nico_P do his magic 15.22.40 # I tried to had a rb->sleep (20) but when the plugin is waiting... no music is played, so I imagine that I will have to use an interruption mechanism or smth like that... 15.22.52 # the file shuold be encoded iso8859-1 like every other file int he repo.... 15.24.32 # pixelma: ok, ive reproduced in the sim, ill see what I can do 15.24.55 # thanks. 15.25.26 # Is it a good idea ? if yes, where to look for an example ? 15.26.09 # * Nico_P thinks all the code should be UTF-8 15.26.15 # the credits file is utf8 since quite a while 15.26.22 # it is? 15.26.28 # it is. 15.26.41 # even the manual uses utf8 (because of the credits file) 15.27.40 # and until changed the manual to utf8 there was an iconv call to convert it ... 15.28.00 # Björn's name in the source file headers is a pain for encoding... 15.28.17 # he isnt the only one... just the most frequent 15.29.03 # pixelma: sorry, but this doesnt look like a keymap problem... do you know when it started? 15.29.17 # the ondio and x5 keymaps for this are exactly the same 15.29.32 # * Nico_P suggests moving the MAINTAINERS file to UTF-8 now 15.30.51 # * DerPapst agrees 15.31.04 # that is what i've said a few hours ago already ;) 15.31.07 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.31.10 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1407F.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.31.11 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp37-66.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.31.24 Quit Nick_Brackley ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.32.20 # JdGordon: not sure, no. My flashed version (r13963) exhibits the same behaviour but it can't be that long, would have to try myself though 15.33.29 # ah, no... that one works correctly 15.33.30 # Nico_P: if you modify maintainers please also fix the ALAC codec line 15.34.18 # hmm... i was about to say to try 13955 15.34.28 # JdGordon: wait, stupid me (too many .ajz here), just loaded an even older one 15.34.42 # ah... too late 15.34.45 # ^^ 15.34.50 # revesion? 15.36.19 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-066-057-231-236.nc.res.rr.com) 15.36.46 # to be clear... r13963 has the bug (the other is too old to be of any use - r12813) 15.37.10 # * JdGordon found the culprit 15.37.22 # I was right, its 13956 which caused the problem 15.37.56 # * Nico_P committed r14000 :D 15.38.51 # * JdGordon isnt 100% sure why that commit broke it, but will try his dardest to fix it :p 15.39.01 # :) 15.40.05 # im wondering why its only the hwcodecs which are showing the bug though 15.40.09 # bluebrother: thanks for mentioning iconv... I didn't know it existed 15.40.11 # it should be all or none 15.40.34 # JdGordon has always the cool revision numbers (e.g. 13337) 15.40.52 # 14000 isnt cool :p 15.40.56 # ^ignore 15.41.01 # but i tihnk i did 13000 15.41.12 # ;) 15.41.16 # we go through rev numbers pretty damn fast! 15.41.31 # JdGordon got 13337 ? 15.41.33 # * Nico_P is jealous 15.41.44 # didn't rev13337 cause a bug? ;) 15.41.49 # 13000 was made by markun :P 15.41.56 # * JdGordon was about to say 15.42.01 # pixelma: probably :p 15.42.10 # 1000 commits in 3 months.. not bad 15.42.16 Part maffe 15.42.25 # but LinusN got 1337 even coolder :P 15.42.34 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 15.42.48 # pixelma: " Fix the menus so lines scroll again" so in other words, definatly created more bugs 15.43.25 # sure :) 15.43.25 # hehe 15.43.52 # he didn't even write a cool commit msg :( 15.44.29 # * amiconn returned from shopping and found the H10 still playing 15.44.36 # maybe he completely forgot about the revision number because of the bugs he added? ;-) 15.45.39 # the log is desperately free from cool comments :( 15.45.56 Join MournBlade [0] (i=4401597c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6836d12bf902e670) 15.46.11 # heh 15.46.16 # * JdGordon wonders if 1337 translates properly to non english countries? 15.46.44 # we have a view cool ones over at iPL but since svn is down i couldn't show any :( 15.46.54 # DerPapst: I saw a blog post about those 15.47.07 # JdGordon: not really 15.47.14 # true.. there are some 15.47.17 # :) 15.48.29 # oh the iPL dev blog is down :( 15.49.22 # linuxstb: yes, sorry for the encoding problem, I forgot to put the office's text editor in iso 15.49.36 # * linuxstb wonders how he is supposed to grep the MAINTAINERS file now things are split on multiple lines 15.49.41 Join Jens [0] (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) 15.49.55 # TiMiD[FD]: No problem - it's easily fixed. 15.50.03 # linuxstb: I asked myself the same question 15.50.13 # but now the file is in unicode 15.51.05 # wouldn't it be a good thing to put al the source code files in unicode for uniformity ? 15.51.08 # amiconn: resync to that PCM patch is attached on my page so whenever 15.51.18 # the lang files are in unicode, the source in iso ... 15.51.44 # TiMiD[FD]: Decent text editors don't change the existing encoding of a file... 15.51.48 # and utf-8 files can be easily detected with the BOM at the beginning 15.52.08 # linuxstb: yeah, we need a script to dump the file to a nice html page 15.52.15 # linuxstb: how do text editors detect the encoding of a file ? 15.52.39 # they make an educated guess 15.52.47 # Nico_P: I don't know, but the "file" command in Linux always seems to know... 15.52.49 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.52.49 # <_jz> it would be killer to have the ability to control the time in the next track where we want the cross-fade to happen 15.52.50 # the long files are utf-8 without bom 15.52.52 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp258-218.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.52.59 # *lang 15.53.01 # <_jz> so we could cross fade from the middle of a track to the middle of next track 15.53.02 # * JdGordon found the bug :D 15.53.06 # decent text editor ... decent people use unicode so don't have the problem ^^ 15.53.11 Join yuan [0] (n=yuan@218.22.21.22) 15.53.18 # <_jz> maybe holding the "next" key while spinning the wheel could indicate a timing of the next track..... ? 15.53.26 # <_jz> what do you think ? 15.53.51 # _jz: Sounds pretty impossible on an ipod.. 15.53.54 # <_jz> with cue files this could be even more awesome 15.53.58 # <_jz> achh OK 15.54.03 # <_jz> but iPod sux anyway :) 15.54.08 # "apps/lang/francais.lang: UTF-8 Unicode English text" :) 15.54.25 # oh, french is english? *g* 15.54.33 # Nico_P: https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/courtc/changeset/1199 15.54.45 # hehe. I guess there's more English than French in there... 15.55.17 # pixelma: doh! I know why it stopped working on hwcodec... its the "hack" thats needed for the software keylock 15.55.20 # about to be fixed 15.55.46 # ah 15.55.59 # * amiconn was about to ask whether JdGordon already had an idea 15.56.00 # the context changed, so it ate the keys 15.56.19 # It should only eat releases and repeats 15.56.22 # yumm.. keys 15.56.25 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 15.56.35 # ALLOW_SOFTLOCK is defined to 0 on most targets which meant the context stayed the same :) 15.56.36 # As soon as it sees a non-release, non-repeat, it should stop eating them 15.56.39 # I hope the keys will still be there ;) 15.56.42 # hmm how do I fix the svn id line in apps/cuesheet.[ch] ? 15.56.46 # <_jz> a "double-click" on next could activate the "select the time on track B for crossfading" thing 15.57.05 # <_jz> so the wheel would select a time, and click again on next would crossfade ? 15.57.24 # * amiconn wonders whether he should go for 80MHz on PP502x right away before commit 15.57.25 # <_jz> just to be able to crossfade with a part _after the intro_ in a techno track would be just great 15.57.39 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 15.58.23 # * jhMikeS is inclined to say "go for 80" for 5024 15.58.25 Quit yuan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.58.33 # * JdGordon attempts to edit maintainers without breaking everything 15.58.48 # JdGordon: why did you close FS#7485? It's a manual issue ... 15.58.49 # The 5024 is no special. It's just a PP5022 with tacked on AS3514 15.59.06 Join yuan [0] (n=yuan@218.22.21.22) 15.59.15 # bluebrother: hmm, woops, mouse moves faster than brain 15.59.22 # heh 15.59.23 # ;-) 16.00.00 # * JdGordon wonders what he should volanteer for in MAINTAINERS 16.00.06 Part tohtorijep 16.00.07 # <_jz> has someone noticed that the "pitch" option in the contextual menu during a track is playing doesn't work until you click before scrolling the wheel ? 16.00.11 # So, either introduce PP5002 special case and commit now, or change the PP5002 to 80MHz blindly, or wait for my first own PP5002 target? 16.00.13 # * jhMikeS thinks it's special :) 16.00.16 # section "random bugs"? *g* 16.00.26 # * amiconn will pick up his ipod G2 in a few hours 16.00.49 # * jhMikeS requests a pcm patch test on that too 16.00.59 # * DerPapst waves with a PP5002 target to test on 16.01.06 # Patience... first I need to make rockbox work on it 16.01.25 # i have a 3G and afaik rockbox works on it :P 16.01.26 # * amiconn will also receive a G1 these days 16.01.35 # * DerPapst could be wrong though 16.02.11 # * jhMikeS is just mega-itching to commit that 16.02.12 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.02.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp176-229.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.02.34 # amiconn: so if you want to i could test 80MHz on my 3G 16.03.08 # * amiconn always uses Gx (or xth gen) and not xG for the ipod generations on purpose 16.03.36 # * jhMikeS is inclined to try 100MHz and pray ... maybe add a heatsink mod 16.03.55 # is xG so much more confusing? 16.04.00 # put some ice cubes on the CPU first ;-) 16.04.10 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.04.14 # it's supposed to do 100 16.04.58 # The 5022/5024 are, yes 16.05.06 # The 5002 should do 90 16.05.08 # would be nice for video playback 16.05.14 # I'll test that when I have it 16.05.55 # Video is completely smooth on H10, even at 78MHz and the simple lcd optimisation only 16.06.34 # That's why I think the PP is quite efficient - X5 struggles like hell with fullscreen video, even at its 124MHz 16.07.49 # doesn't the h10 use both cores for video? 16.08.07 # One for video, one for audio and the rest 16.08.18 # But even with no audio, the huge difference remains 16.08.45 # ok 16.10.39 # jhMikeS: btw, i havnt had any sd problems since the commit 16.11.44 # JdGordon: what changed? I thought you had to insert the card several times to get it to show. 16.11.52 # hmm. set_current_file() definitely blows up in the sim 16.11.54 Quit yuan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.12.06 # jhMikeS: i dunno, some days it works, some it doesnt 16.12.16 Quit Febs ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]") 16.12.29 # btw, is someone still working on the mpegplayer optimisation for coldfire? it seems that it doesn't work anymore since the stack overflow fix. 16.13.27 # mmm...well it should always work so try the delay out again where it was. that's all I can say atm. 16.14.24 # PaulJam: I suppose I plan on having a separate UI thread and buffering thread which would leave the main stack open for audio only 16.15.51 # Can't we use the codec stack for audio? 16.16.03 # Perhaps even load mpa.codec to decode the audio? 16.16.23 # Hmm, that'd introduce iram swap.... 16.18.26 # JdGordon: thanks for the fix, seems to work nicely now :) (I also have the impression that locking/unlocking keys works more reliably) 16.18.41 # :) 16.20.35 # 80MHz and 24MHz with PLL disabled are working on 5020... 16.21.42 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.21.42 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.22.38 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.22.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp84-210.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.37.28 Quit MournBlade ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.37.28 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.37.28 Join yuan [0] (n=yuan@218.22.21.22) 16.37.28 Quit Siltaar ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.37.28 # jhMikeS: The main stack (8KB) is smaller than the regular codec stack (9KB), and hence libmad overflows it... 16.37.28 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 16.37.28 # So you can't run audio in the main stack. 16.37.28 # Why does libmad use that much stack? 16.37.28 # I would guess things have been moved to the stack because it's in iram. 16.37.28 DBUG Enqueued KICK linuxstb 16.37.28 # But I'm not familiar with the libmad internals at all. 16.37.28 # Maybe a case of over-optimisation... 16.37.28 *** Alert Mode level 1 16.37.28 # But yes, we do have the currently unused codec stack potentially available for mpegplayer's audio thread. 16.37.28 # Afaik libmad is the codec with the highest stack usage 16.37.28 Join Siltaar [0] (i=c134d0e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-334e3f0a5e580360) 16.42.15 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.42.15 # * amiconn hopes linuxstb will be around tonight 16.45.58 # amiconn: Yes, I will be - what will you need? 16.46.10 # ipodpatcher work for G2 16.47.29 *** Alert Mode OFF 16.48.59 # anyone got ideas on why I'm getting segfaults from the sim when using set_current_file in a plugin? 16.55.54 # Silly question, but are you calling rb->set_current_file() ? (I forget what error that would cause...) 16.56.54 # amiconn: OK, I'll have a look. It would be useful to have dumps of the first 20MB or so from your ipod (i.e. dd if=/dev/sda of=dump.bin) - so it includes the partition table and the interesting part of the firmware partition. 16.57.06 # linuxstb: yes that's what I'm calling 16.57.10 # I'll do that as soon as I have it 16.57.15 # only with an actual path obviously 16.57.33 # Just that it probably won't be /dev/sda here... 16.57.46 # (windows) 16.57.56 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@gifn3.fpl.com) 16.58.38 # is there a menu to change the volume in bubbles? 17.01.00 # no idea 17.01.13 # isn't there a way to have svn ignore files only for a working copy without using the global config ? 17.02.48 Join MournBlade [0] (i=4401597c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-18f7b6b00b1a8fe7) 17.04.01 # linuxstb: FS7486 if you feel like taking a look at work in progress 17.06.26 # GodEater: forgot the attachement? 17.06.45 # apprently - could have SWORN I clicked on it though 17.07.15 # it's there now 17.08.07 # rrrr, hanging build 17.08.32 # * amiconn summons Bagder 17.08.44 # if anyone spots any obvious gotchas with what I did with set_current_file() then please enlighten me. I've looked at it so long now I think my IQ has dropped several points. 17.08.51 # * amiconn just committed the PP502x clock setup cleanup including 80MHz 17.10.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.12.13 # any objections against me committing some svn:ignore updates ? 17.12.51 # GodEater: You forgot to add set_current_file() to plugin.c 17.13.03 # (or forgot plugin.c in your diff) 17.13.26 # Nico_P: What does svn:ignore do/ 17.13.26 # ? 17.13.46 # Well, if that was forgotten, calling it will segfault for sure (as the pointer will be NULL) 17.13.53 # linuxstb: prevent the svn status output from being polluted by unversioned files 17.14.07 Part yuan 17.14.41 # linuxstb: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.props.special.ignore.html 17.14.57 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 17.15.05 # Nico_P: I quite like that - it tells me which local files I have... 17.15.27 # But I guess you want to ignore files generated by the builds? e.g. stuff in tools/ ? 17.15.36 # that's it 17.16.03 # there are already a few that are ignored, I want to add new ones 17.16.10 # * amiconn doesn't use svn status 17.16.22 # and also rbutil bins 17.17.11 # Nico_P: Then I suppose that's sensible. 17.22.15 # amiconn: One thing I'm not sure about with ipodpatcher is if I can determine the ipod version (i.e. differentiate between 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen). Do you know yet how many PP5002 builds we'll need? 17.22.23 # linuxstb: thanks for that - that's stopped the segfault - now I've just got to work out why I'm getting a blank screen instead! 17.22.48 # I think we want one build per generation 17.22.55 Join nls [0] (n=nils@h218n1fls35o293.telia.com) 17.24.05 # GodEater: Maybe non-native English speakers will struggle with a comment saying "Something's gone properly pear shaped" ... ;) 17.24.29 # if you say so ;) 17.24.41 # * linuxstb waits for our non-native English speakers to comment... 17.25.26 # amiconn won't need it in proper english, the code will be enough for him ;) 17.25.38 # amiconn: I thought you would say that... 17.25.51 # * GodEater is clearly a ventriloquist too 17.25.53 # * amiconn wonders what GodEater and linuxstb are talking about 17.26.32 # dict.cc seems to have the coorect translation. 17.27.06 # PaulJam: of what ? 17.27.19 # "pear shaped" 17.28.16 # it may have the literal translation, but I doubt it carries the sense of the phrase 17.28.40 # oh no - maybe it does 17.29.14 # Hmm, are there other PP5002 targets than ipods? 17.29.16 # Godeater: http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/danebengehen.html 17.30.04 # PaulJam: I stand corrected 17.30.27 # amiconn: I don't know of any. Although didn't the Karma have something similar - PP5003 or PP5004? 17.30.29 # am i wrong or database updating is ultra buggy on sansa with rockbox ? 17.30.39 # it is ultra buggy 17.30.45 # tumu: thanks 17.30.49 # tumu: how do you proceed ? 17.30.59 # hammer init db and update db until it works 17.31.09 # might need few reboots as well 17.31.12 # personally i load the old firmware, copy the files via usb 17.31.18 # reboot into the old firmware again 17.31.21 # let it update the database 17.31.29 # then i boot rockbox and run "init db", etc 17.31.31 # multiple times 17.31.35 # linuxstb: yes - the karma is a PP target too 17.31.36 # it's ugly ! 17.31.39 # you don't need to boot to original 17.31.41 # just rockbox 17.31.51 # that's what i thought but you know ... 17.32.21 # has there been a bug fix ? 17.32.37 # cause it's really annoying 17.32.40 # has there been a bug report ? 17.32.48 # when you hit update db you expect it to work ;) 17.33.09 # well i can file a bug report if there's none 17.33.14 # i'd be surprised if there is no report 17.33.15 # GodEater, FS7032 17.33.48 # is there anyone looking at this problem ? 17.33.54 # if not i'd be happy to fix it myself 17.34.11 # the comments on it would indicate it's not been dealt with yet, and looks like we're still awaiting info 17.34.30 # * nls is not a big ML user, so I have a newbie question, to start a new thread in the dev-ML do I have to do anything else than sending a mail to rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se ? 17.34.42 # nls: nope - that's all 17.34.49 # the key thing is not to reply to an existing email on it 17.35.01 # GodEater: thanks ;-) 17.35.15 # otherwise febs will shout at you ;) 17.36.11 # * GodEater thinks he needs his plugin to now exit straight into the file browser to see the change to current directory 17.37.30 # Nah. I've already used my quota for the month of complaining about the mailing list. ;) 17.38.10 # hahaha 17.40.47 # * linuxstb notes there are only a few days left in the month... 17.48.37 Quit jac0b ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]") 17.54.43 # krp: fixing it yourself is always a good idea 17.54.47 # amiconn: even if linuxstb doesn't get ipodpatcher to work when you need it you can still use ipod_fw to install the bootloader. 17.54.55 # linuxstb i just put a new build on my H120 and the plugins load now 17.57.21 # amiconn: I'm testing rockbox on my brother's H10 with your changes... it's much nicer, congrats :) 17.58.53 # amiconn: do you expect runtime to be improved ? 17.59.25 Join NirIzr [0] (n=NirIzr@84.94.171.85.cable.012.net.il) 18.00.43 Part NirIzr 18.00.51 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.01.55 # Nico_P: No, at least not significantly 18.02.01 Part maffe 18.02.15 # ok 18.02.15 # Maybe a little bit due to the faster lcd update draining less cpu power 18.02.20 # markun: how do rockbox devs test their code ? i don't mean unit testing or something like that, more like running the firmware in something like a qemu instance ? 18.02.45 # krp: we have an UI simulator 18.03.05 # krp: for what's not simulated by it we need to test on the targets 18.03.32 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-133-213.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 18.05.12 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179207037.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.05.37 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 18.05.53 # hi Domonoky 18.06.01 # hi bluebrother 18.06.14 # do you have any experiences with the accessibility module of Qt? It seems it isn't used by default 18.06.15 # Nico_P: the simulator sounds great, there seems to be one for e200 too 18.06.30 # krp: for the e200 it's an emulator... not the same 18.06.40 Join mike__ [0] (n=mike@69.182.93.153) 18.06.43 # but unfortunately neither the documentation nor google was helpful enough to make it clear to me how it works :( 18.06.48 # bluebrother: i dont have any experience with it, but i could take a look .. :-) 18.07.10 # that would be great :) 18.07.18 # krp: actually for the e200 there are both the sim and the emulator. the sim can be built for all targets 18.09.38 # i just got a data abort error at 40001410 erros 18.10.28 # on H10 18.11.04 # Nico_P: are you using buildbot for the daily builds or ... ? 18.11.18 # krp: it's a custom script 18.11.26 # ok 18.12.50 Quit amar (Remote closed the connection) 18.13.30 Quit Guile`` ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 18.14.20 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 18.14.37 # krp: the scripts are here: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/www/tools/ 18.15.09 # * amiconn summons Bagder, LinusN or Zagor 18.15.18 # aouch, perl ;) 18.19.47 Quit mike_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.23.59 # bluebrother: for starting with the accessible things, you should fill in "accessibleName" and "accessibleDescription" in the Designer for every widget which should be read out.. 18.24.41 # and please also fill in the tooltip and whatsThis for those widgets.. 18.25.11 # hmm, I tried this for one button but it wasn't spoken. But adding the values shouldn't hurt anyway. 18.25.32 # perhaps we have to aktivate it somehow.. 18.26.24 # but for the base widgets of Qt accessibillity should already be implemented, for self created widgets, you have to implement a interface for this.. 18.27.18 # does anybody know what font iamp uses? 18.27.42 # alienbiker99: just take a look at the cfg file of iamp.. :-) 18.27.55 # yeah, that was what I understood so far. But surprisingly it didn't work ... 18.27.58 # oh cgood thinkin, thanks 18.29.35 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.32.32 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-133-213.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 18.32.33 # Domonoky: What's so much better with qt than with wxwidgets? 18.34.15 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.34.16 # amiconn: many more ready made Widgets in Qt.. aviable for all distros as readymade package... more people with qt knowledge.. etc.. :-) 18.35.56 Quit obo ("bye") 18.36.12 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.36.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp228-101.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.36.23 # amiconn: According to this page (which is just a front-end to the firmware downloads itunes 7 uses), the same Apple firmware is used for the 1G and 2G - http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ - So I don't think ipodpatcher will be able to easily differentiate between the two. 18.37.26 # bluebrother: found something.. you have to copy the accessible plugin (with the dir) to the dir where the rbutilqt bin resides.. 18.37.47 # Aha, hmmm.... 18.38.02 # damn. Why oh why crashes my virtual windows repeatedly when sound is enabled? :( 18.38.08 # linuxstb: Maybe it's still possible (although maybe not necessary) 18.38.22 # it was already the same firmware in the apple updaters packages. 18.38.26 # bluebrother: what do you use for speaking in windows ? 18.38.40 # ipodpatcher can distinguish mini G1 and G2, even though the OF code looks like it would run on both 18.39.02 # build is finally done now, reveals some red in the bootloaders of PP targets 18.39.09 # * amiconn should check the wheel handling in ipl... 18.39.38 # amiconn: Apple do distribute different firmwares for the two mini generations - and the firmware image contains a model number which is how ipodpatcher can tell the difference between ipods. 18.39.49 # aha 18.40.28 # ah, another big plus of Qt: Plugins :-) 18.40.54 # I found a software that's free for use called thunder: http://screenreader.net/index.php?section=Thunder%20and%20Manuals 18.41.06 Quit MournBlade ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.42.07 Join belze_ [0] (i=nifty@dslb-088-073-227-139.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.42.44 # <_jz> stupid questions : are the daily builds built.... daily ? (and if so, at what time ? ;) 18.43.05 # _jz: daily builds are built ... daily :) 18.43.09 # Around 5am GMT I think. You could check the timestamps in the ifles. 18.43.13 # ^files 18.43.31 # * bluebrother was too slow in typing a line that hints for file timestamps 18.44.05 Nick HellDragon_ is now known as HellDragon (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 18.44.07 # <_jz> hehe i knew this was stupid :) 18.44.36 Join saratoga [0] (i=980398fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0264acd52c2738ee) 18.44.42 # maybe I should give Jaws a try. There's a time limited demo available 18.45.17 # * Domonoky doesnt want to install such thing on his normal PC, perhaps i should make a Vm.. 18.45.20 # amiconn: Maybe a unified bootloader will be easier than a unified Rockbox build. The bootloader could then hopefully detect which ipod it is running on, and check the version of the main build. 18.45.48 # Although that won't help with rbutil (it uses ipodpatcher's detection...) 18.46.03 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.46.12 # But I guess we can live with that - the user will need to manually select the ipod generation in rbutil. 18.46.25 # The only real reason for having separate builds would be if the G2's touch wheel allows detecting the touch position 18.46.55 # And that won't be needed in the bootloader anyway. At the moment the bootloader has separate button driver code. 18.46.56 # If it just sends pulses for forward/backward movement like the mechanical G1 wheel, there is no reason to 18.47.09 # Slasheri: u there? 18.49.08 # linuxstb: i'm pretty much sure that the mini G2 is the first iPod that allows detecting the touch position. 18.49.27 # at least 1G to 3G can't do that 18.49.46 # ok 18.49.55 # saratoga: Hi. Have you had chance to look at that libmad patch? 18.50.14 # So we can have a unified G1/G2 build, but we probably need to detect what we're running on in a few places 18.50.30 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@69.182.127.146) 18.50.30 # That should be possible with the IPOD_HW_REVISION value in flash. 18.50.55 # yes 18.51.22 # OK, so my only problem will be distinguishing between G1/G2 and G3... 18.52.01 # That also means ipodpatcher only needs to be adapted to one new (old) partition format 18.53.02 # only way i can think of is parsing the sysinfo file in iPod_Control/Devices/SysInfo 18.53.11 # Gah, this bootloader build issue is nasty 18.53.38 # It's due to HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ being defined for bootloaders even though they don't use that 18.54.23 # I can get around it pretty cheap, but then compiling without HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ will be severely broken 18.54.35 # DerPapst: I don't want to rely on SysInfo - 1) It may not be there if the user has wiped the Apple firmware; 2) ipodpatcher only does raw access to the disk, it doesn't read the filesystem. 18.55.05 # Now I tried to change some checks to also check for !BOOTLOADER as well (in system.c and system.h) - but that breaks coldfire bootloaders 18.56.38 # linuxstb: i only said that this is the only way i could think of how to distinguish between G1/G2 and G3. 18.56.47 # And now I have to leave for a while.... :( 18.58.28 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.58.31 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp10-145.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.59.14 # linuxstb: could there be a way to scan the firmware partition layout to distinguish between G1/G2 and G3? 18.59.59 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 19.00.14 # It looks like the firmware images contain a version number for the OSOS image. The latest firmwares are 0x0210 for the 3g and 0x0130 for the 1g/2g. 19.00.44 # Now all I need is older firmwares to compare... 19.01.25 # there are some here: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Apple_Updaters 19.01.51 # at least there is a 2.2 for 3G iPod (latest is 2.3). 19.02.08 # Thanks 19.02.27 # but i don't know if there are any older ones for G1/G2 available. latest is 1.5 19.02.41 # hmm, Jaws seems to work much better than Thunder 19.02.52 # I got it speaking the menu :) 19.02.56 # maybe you have luch and amiconn has older versions on his G1 or G2 iPod 19.03.03 # *luck 19.03.12 # I'll go pick up the G2 in a few mins 19.03.27 Quit mike__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.03.33 # is there no (easy) way to detect the version number of the installed AppleOS? 19.03.37 # * amiconn hopes the bootloader build failures aren't too annoying meanwhile 19.04.14 # bluebrother: That's what I think I've found. 19.04.16 # bluebrother: only via the sysinfo file 19.04.45 # and with the scsi inquery on later ipod. 19.05.06 # *grrr* 19.05.14 # * bluebrother kicks the virtual windows install 19.05.56 # * linuxstb heads home 19.06.01 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 19.08.12 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 19.08.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp103-115.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.09.06 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.09.53 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1407F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.10.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.11.09 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 19.14.15 # Domonoky: if you want to try Jaws, you don't need to install it ;-) 19.14.55 # the installer itself is spoken, so you can just start the setup wizard and stop before the real installation starts. 19.16.36 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 19.16.40 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp127-65.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.23.59 Join MournBlade [0] (i=4401597c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d5b22b41a1c73a88) 19.26.27 Quit BigMac ("Ex-Chat") 19.31.08 # linuxstb: I haven't looked at that patch yet, I will after I commit the LSP fixes for wma 19.31.12 # hopefully later today 19.31.16 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.35.18 Join Siltaar_ [0] (n=Siltaar@reverse-52.fdn.fr) 19.41.00 # bluebrother: any luck with the speaking rbutilqt ? 19.41.37 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 19.41.43 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 19.41.48 # yes. It "just" works. 19.42.01 # nice 19.42.05 # at least the menu speaks now. Seems Thunder isn't quite good. 19.42.28 # there is no such a thing like just working software (except Apple ^^) 19.42.44 # so just copying the accessible plugin is enough for the nativ qt widgets ? 19.42.49 # yes. 19.43.01 # good.. 19.43.18 # I haven't checked the effect of the appropriate items in designer 19.44.01 # according to the doc, buttons already have the accessible text, but other widgets dont.. so settting them would be good.. 19.44.43 Join metalic [0] (i=5b7e2063@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a16901503e4aa2a2) 19.47.31 # Hi guys! I got everything working now except playlist, I really want my itunes playlists on rockbox, sÃ¥ I say a software called yamipod, it basicly converts itunesplaylists to m3u format... The problem is that when loading the playlist in rockbox, it says No file found on every song? 19.48.02 # metalic: have you looked at the exported playlist files? 19.48.20 # are they in m3u format and do they contain the same folder structure that is on your ipod? 19.49.51 # well I think they have m3u8 or something? and yeah, because yami askes for my itunes library xml file so it should be? 19.50.33 # well, I don't know yamipod (tough I tried it once ... didn't detect my Ipod) 19.50.53 # but I guess the playlists are broken. My assumption is that the paths are wrong 19.50.57 # Oh damn it 19.50.57 # sorry 19.51.10 # I used iTunesExport.UI-1.3.1 19.51.24 # yami didnt work with smartlists!!! 19.51.37 # never heard of that. Just open a m3u file with your favourite text editor 19.51.47 # yeah 19.51.48 # and check if the paths it lists are present on your player. 19.52.16 # okey will do that, cant right now though, im on mac.... 19.52.29 # but m3u has two diffrent formats right? 19.52.48 # one just m3u and one with one more number after? 20.00.27 Join venox [0] (n=luiz@201.41.168.32) 20.01.05 # hey... is there anyway to make the ipod's rockbox port to use a apple-like keymap? 20.01.29 # dont you like the rockbox way? 20.01.30 # I wanted to be able to use the play/pause, skip forward/backward, buttons to control the playback from the menus (and filebrowser) 20.01.32 # you mean rockbox' ipod port? 20.01.33 # its kinda nice... 20.01.45 # dionoea: yeah. heh 20.02.26 # metalic: I think rockbox way is just ok. 20.03.07 # but I really wanted to call the WPS with a "Now playing" menu option, and use the buttons as I described 20.03.31 # yeah I understand what you mean 20.03.34 # that's not possible unless you change the code yourself and recompile 20.03.46 # dionoea: yeah, that's what I'm looking to 20.04.19 # but it seems that I can't just change the apps/keymaps/keymap-ipod.c 20.04.52 # does it matter if the playlist is m3u och m3u8? 20.05.08 # metalic: m3u8 is just a UTF-8 m3u 20.05.09 # metalic: m3u8 files are supposed to be UTF_8 encoded 20.05.21 # gra, too slow 20.05.31 # so no diffrens? 20.05.57 # depends if you have accents or non latin chars in your filenames or not 20.06.06 # if it's only plain ASCII, no difference 20.06.52 # yeah okey.. im refering more if it matters for the rockbox, but it reads both probobly? 20.07.19 # venox: the issue is that you're not going to have enough buttons left for normal operations in the file browser and menus if you add those keys. 20.07.59 # metalic: yeah, it reads both 20.08.47 # omfg jclix is really nice!!! :D 20.09.04 # it has its small glitches though 20.12.21 # dionoea: why not? MENU key is "BACK", SELECT key is SELECT (holding this keys gives me the menu) 20.12.26 # what other keys do I need? 20.21.23 Ctcp Version from chrisjs169!n=chrisjs@unaffiliated/chrisjs169 20.21.44 Quit K4rP4D (Remote closed the connection) 20.27.29 # menu for back? Blargh. 20.27.29 # b luebrother: you there? 20.27.50 # metalic: yes, for a few minutes 20.27.55 # It seems my exported m3u playlists have paths on my harddrive and not on ipod... 20.28.06 Join pili [0] (n=pili@28.Red-88-7-159.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 20.28.11 # do ipod have own playlist which you can export from? 20.28.16 # well, then it's not surprising it doesn't work 20.28.25 # yeah hahaha :d 20.28.40 # Itunes stores the playlists on the Ipod in its own format (in the DB to be exact) 20.28.51 # so you need some tool to extract it from there. 20.29.08 # search the forums, there was a thread about that a while ago 20.29.39 # you have the exact filename? 20.29.47 # nad if possible location= 20.29.53 # of the itunesdb? 20.30.06 # somewhere in /iPodControl 20.30.06 # yeah 20.30.27 # saw it 20.30.31 # but it's a binary format, I don't see how this would help here ... you need a tool that reads this database 20.30.36 # yeah 20.30.46 # back to scratch on 20.30.48 # one* 20.31.10 # d 20.31.19 # thanks once again for explaining! ;) 20.31.28 # you're welcome 20.31.29 Join Keksmeister [0] (n=ich@p5B1714F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.34.28 # Hi, how do I know wich ipod do I have? It is an ipod nano, but how do I know wich generation it is? 20.34.48 # what color does it have? 20.34.53 # blue 20.34.58 # then it's 2G 20.35.05 # :( 20.35.19 # the 1G weren't available in colors, only black and white. 20.35.26 # so rockbox is not supported in this device I guess 20.35.34 # 2G also has a full-metal case 20.35.50 # the other way round: Rockbox does not support the 2G ;-) 20.36.17 # Is there any stupid reason? 20.36.34 # It works on almost all ipods 20.37.09 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11366.30 20.37.32 # Thats the software needed for extracting itunes playlists to rockbox""" 20.37.33 # "" 20.37.43 # Works perfectly! :) 20.38.32 # could someone reccomend ma a softwere to manage the ipod from the pc? 20.39.40 # I mean without using itunes 20.39.55 # I'm trying to get this working for my aunt 20.40.41 # their is a couple.. have not uses win for a while but I remember anapod 20.40.44 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 20.40.53 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.41.35 # * amiconn just returned with the G2 20.41.48 # Good timing... 20.41.50 # This thing is heavy compared to a G5 ... 20.42.01 # you could always google "itunes replacement" 20.42.14 # It says firmware version 1.5 in the about screen 20.42.20 # amiconn: Does it have USB, or is it firewire only? 20.42.27 # that's the latest 20.42.31 # fiwi only 20.42.32 # G1 and G2 are firewire only 20.42.44 # And the firewire chip is documented iirc 20.42.47 # that is my problem too, I heard amarok works great with ipod. But for win... I don't know. At least can this be used just with drag and drop to add the songs in mp3? 20.42.47 # It has a standard 6 pin firewire socket at the top 20.42.56 # (the firewire is external to the pp5002) 20.43.21 # It's not completely external according to the product brief iirc 20.43.21 # At least, IPL had a working driver for it. 20.43.27 # Just the phy is 20.43.43 # Yes, i remember having read this 20.43.43 # pili: yeah anapod is like drag and drop, their is one more which is really good, just cant remember the name 20.43.55 # yamipod? 20.44.03 # But this can come later, first I want to get rockbox working at all 20.44.16 # maybe,,, but not the one Im refering too 20.44.38 # amiconn: BTW, I don't think ipodpatcher will be very much work at all - I'm about to work on it now. 20.44.41 # Does itunes offer something special? 20.44.43 # yamipod is like podplayer, makes you access the music ON the ipod 20.45.22 # well its the best all rounded if you have mac... for win im not that sure, wmp or winamp is always a better choice 20.46.32 # I'm going to search, I readed somewhere that there was a multiplatform softwere 20.46.39 # ware 20.46.46 # can anybody confirm that rockbox doesn't use more battery than apples own firmware? 20.47.01 # google is the way man ;) 20.47.25 # metalic: I can confirm that Rockbox does use more battery than Apple's firmware. 20.47.36 # well thats nice :D 20.48.07 # Hmm, somehow my laptop doesn't want to read the ipod's drive 20.48.12 # HFS? 20.48.16 # shame.. rockbox really unlockes functions its soo nice! 20.48.24 # "volume in drive g: isn't formatted. Format now?" 20.48.41 # What does ipodpatcher make of it? 20.48.52 # My guess is it will think it's a 3G. 20.49.54 # Maybe, although the package says windows version 20.50.20 # And it does detect a volume. Shouldn't that mean there's a pc partition table? 20.50.25 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 20.50.52 # foobar2000 with foo_dop is a nice alternative to itunes on windows 20.51.00 # * linuxstb doesn't know how Windows deals with drives 20.51.29 # Hmm, windows doesn't see 2 partitions 20.51.45 # * amiconn should probably use the ipod restore util 20.51.47 # amiconn, itunes should offer to let you format it as a winpod 20.51.53 # ipodpatcher will tell you if it's HFS or FAT 20.52.04 # I don't have itunes installed and never will install it 20.52.05 # (it can read the Apple Partition map) 20.52.37 Quit Keksmeister () 20.52.57 # * amiconn wonders where he put his ipodpatcher copy 20.53.12 # which windows can't. that's why you can't see any partitions i guess 20.53.36 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF505D.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.54.40 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 20.54.42 # [ERR] No ipods found, aborting 20.54.43 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp139-37.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.54.58 # Hmm maybe that ipodpatcher is too old? 20.55.00 # 0.9 20.55.34 Quit chrisjs169 (Remote closed the connection) 20.55.52 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 20.56.09 # Possibly. 20.56.17 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 20.56.23 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-066-057-231-236.nc.res.rr.com) 20.56.37 # * DerPapst hands amiconn a newer one.. http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe 20.57.18 # Just fetched that 20.57.41 # Same thing 20.58.11 # then you might have to restore manually if you don't want to use itunes at all 20.58.35 # Well, there's this standalone ipod restore util 20.58.53 # which depends on at least one itunes file 20.58.53 # linuxstb: Want a dump? 20.59.02 # amiconn: Does it boot the Apple firmware OK? 20.59.07 # yes 20.59.19 # Then yes, a dump would be helpful. 20.59.29 # The dump says 'apple partition map' near the start 20.59.32 # I think the first 20MB (including the partition table) would be enough. 20.59.33 # btw.. the ipod should tell you if it is hfs or not 20.59.35 # Domonoky: ok. Screenereader work just fine with Qt4 once you copied that plugin. 20.59.47 # I just checked against qtscrobbler and it's spoken ;-) 20.59.48 # somewhere in Settings > About 21.00.01 # It doesn't 21.00.06 # or Einstellungen > Über ;) 21.00.11 # oww. 21.00.22 # *Über 21.00.24 # It just tells how many tracks there are, the capacity, free space, version and serial number 21.00.29 # I had the idea of providing access to all button-functions through a menu for convenience -- might be easier for keyboard navigation 21.00.47 # hmm... 3G iPod tell if it's a winpod or macpod 21.00.51 Quit belze_ ("Ich weiß deine Monster sind genau wie meine, und mit denen bleibt man besser nicht alleine.") 21.02.12 # DerPapst: The ipod updater doesn't require any additional file 21.02.19 # oh 21.02.19 Quit metalic ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.02.29 # i thought they do 21.02.30 # Maybe apple no longer provides it for download, but I still have a copy 21.02.33 # (or should) 21.02.36 # * amiconn checks 21.02.57 # amiconn: Yes, definitely an HFS ipod. 21.02.59 # * DerPapst shows amiconn http://www.ipodlinux.org/Apple_Updaters 21.04.13 # tnx 21.04.18 # :) 21.04.29 # * amiconn downloads 21.06.48 Join webguest13 [0] (i=4cc1ff39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-42330e50fa9c6052) 21.08.14 # amiconn: Have you converted yet? 21.08.20 # nah 21.08.31 # still downloading the updater 21.08.56 # I have an ipodpatcher.exe which recognises your dump as a "1st or 2nd gen macpod" 21.09.27 # I can test... 21.09.30 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodpatcher.zip 21.09.45 # I need to know the model number and name you're planning to use for Rockbox. 21.09.49 # * DerPapst spots some red color un the build table 21.10.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.11.07 # * DerPapst just noticed that it is already known :-/ 21.11.17 # too slow as always :-P 21.13.37 # linuxstb: It works :) 21.14.05 # * amiconn sees the warning for the first time 21.17.48 Quit webguest13 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.17.50 # DerPapst: Do you know the reset and diskmode button combos for the old ipods? 21.18.47 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.19.03 # http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations 21.20.10 # Ah, a "cross sequence" 21.24.22 Join metalic [0] (i=5b7e2063@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-73da79b8b70cca9c) 21.24.36 # anybody with a quicky on how to apply patches? 21.24.49 # patch -p0 < file.diff 21.24.59 # Hmm, something went wrong... 21.25.58 # It now just displays a firewire plug and an arrow... :( 21.26.29 # blue: were should I type this? 21.26.53 # you have a document page or something about patching? 21.27.11 # at the command promt, in the source root. 21.28.12 # Ah, it wants power, probably for updating the flash 21.28.13 # amiconn: That could be a request for power - so it can reflash the bootloader 21.28.22 # My laptop only has 4-pin firewire 21.28.37 # I plugged it into the charger now 21.29.40 # Now I have an extra item in the about screen 21.29.46 # Format: Windows 21.31.14 # ...and the new ipodpatcher recognises it :) 21.31.27 # [INFO] Ipod model: 1st or 2nd Generation ("winpod") 21.32.03 # As I mentioned we need the model number etc so I can prepare it for a bootloader. 21.32.14 # blue: is the command promt in the ipod rockbox or in the folders? 21.32.22 # ahh cant get it right sorry 21.32.24 # Which model number? 21.32.40 # The one used by scramble (-add), and the 4-char model name. 21.32.54 # Plus a target filename (ipod3g, ipodnano, ipodcolor etc) 21.32.56 # 4-char could be 1g2g 21.33.40 # I guess ipod1g2g for the target name.... 21.34.39 # yes, sounds reasonable 21.34.58 # Model number should be the next available iirc 21.35.58 # I make that 19 21.36.13 # is that target_id? 21.36.27 # That's MODEL_NUMBER in config-*.h 21.36.54 # * amiconn thinks we have too many different model identifiers 21.37.02 # metalic: there is http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling and one other wiki page, also something in the appropriate subforum 21.37.38 # 29 appears to be the next target_id 21.37.46 # yes 21.39.11 # haha, I love that line in config-ipodmini.h: 21.39.21 # tools/scramble appears to use MODEL_NUMBER from the config.h 21.39.38 # #define MODEL_NUMBER 9 /* TODO: change to 9 */ 21.39.46 # ;) 21.40.43 # * amiconn should probably fix the bootloader build problem now 21.40.54 # OK, I'll update ipodpatcher with that info. 21.42.05 Join GodEater__ [0] (n=vircuser@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 21.42.40 # THanks pixelma! I accually just found that site! But thanks anyway!!! 21.42.53 Join BobShield [0] (i=rshield@c-24-15-123-57.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.43.36 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.43.52 # amiconn: ipodpatcher now updated - same URL. 21.46.06 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@75.84-48-86.nextgentel.com) 21.47.57 # linuxstb: That one doesn't want to detect the ipod... 21.48.05 # eh? 21.48.09 # Now it works... 21.49.22 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.51.40 # linuxstb: hehe, do you think the user cannot select one ipod from a list? 21.52.02 # "[ERR] 2 ipods found, aborting" << 21.52.36 # if you read posts from ipod users... 21.52.43 # which he doesn't 21.52.55 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.52.58 # * Domonoky just commited ini file based install logging to rbutilqt :-) 21.53.00 # I do, but not very often 21.53.17 # saratoga: When you're around, this may interest you: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7488 21.53.17 # well then you know they have less brain cells than the average chair leg 21.54.39 # * amiconn should probably test whether the bootloaders are working 21.54.53 # At least on targets where this isn't dangerous 21.54.56 # hey! 21.54.57 # ;-) 21.55.02 # (ipod mini g2 and iaudio x5) 21.55.10 Join webguest73 [0] (i=4cc1ff39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-29a744c099bf7f29) 21.55.11 # I don't like generalizations but I think "better to be careful" 21.55.23 # The bootloaders will become smaller by my fix 21.55.25 # nice to see others starting to work at it. 21.55.41 # *on 21.55.45 # :-) 21.56.03 # In svn, bootloaders have HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ defined, and that makes them include set_cpu_frequency() because panicf() requires it 21.56.26 # * bluebrother reads the diff 21.56.28 # But bootloaders don't touch the pll (and shouldn't) 21.57.13 # bluebrother: i first thought of wrapping the logging into a class, but its not really needed.. :-) 21.57.51 # I had two ideas: (1) add a menu which contains the install buttons for easier keyboard access 21.58.26 # (2) maybe even create a command line interface? like "rbutilqt --install current --device ipodmini2g" 21.59.38 Quit webguest73 (Client Quit) 21.59.52 # (1) is a nice idea, but not needed when accessibility works.. (2) would be really cool, and shoulnt be hard if we wrap the functionallity good.. 21.59.53 # erm.... 22.00.05 # This bootloader doesn't werk on my mini :( 22.00.30 # I agree about (1) not really necessary, but otoh it would mostly being just some connect() calls 22.01.07 # bluebrother: e.g we should try to wrap the installation prozess better, as it is now.. but its a bit, bad with the asynchronus download... 22.01.15 # sry, phone call 22.02.53 # hmpf 22.03.08 # It just hangs, even the Right button does nothing 22.03.19 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.07.06 # amiconn: I built an svn bootloader a couple of days ago (when I changed the hw version detection), and it worked on my Color. 22.07.18 Join fluxam [0] (i=4158589b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2ea8e3b6b1e455fd) 22.07.23 # hmm... :| 22.10.19 # GodEater: That chair leg comment was a little harsh... ;) 22.11.19 # perhaps :) 22.11.36 # too unkind to chair legs ? ;) 22.11.52 # Hmm. 22.12.00 # bootloader r14003 also doesn't work 22.12.28 # *cough*GQ?*cough*(perhaps)*cough* 22.12.47 # ? 22.12.59 # * GodEater__ is in the dark too 22.13.45 # golden quotes 22.13.47 # bluebrother, i added the gpl v2 as html instead of the plain text version, and made some tiny changes to the aboutbox for rbutilqt. Would you like to see a diff? 22.14.14 # * GodEater__ doesn't see anything really worthy of GoldenQuotes 22.14.26 # DerPapst: the chair legs comparison? 22.14.32 # amiconn: I've just double-checked, and my Color is currently running a bootloader calling itself "r13982:13986-070725" 22.14.41 # thats why hidden in a lot of *cough*'s :P 22.14.45 # pixelma: yes 22.14.45 # (and it works fine) 22.15.11 # * GodEater__ does not wish to become a terror target of outraged ipod owners thansk 22.15.14 # *thanks 22.15.16 # :) 22.15.16 Quit pili ("Ex-Chat") 22.15.38 # hehe 22.16.15 # linuxstb: Hmm, bootloader r13985 also doesn't work 22.16.17 # bluebrother, take a look at this. http://pastebin.com/m25261db1 22.16.29 # Maybe your new ipodpatcher has broken fw partition handling? 22.16.33 # GodEater__: Although the number of posts that say "my ipod displays the message 'Hold MENU+SELECT to reboot then SELECT+PLAY for disk mode' - what do I do?" does amaze me.... 22.16.34 # (I used -wf btw) 22.16.45 # * GodEater__ rests his case 22.17.49 # amiconn: I used -a, but I can't imagine why it would make a difference. 22.18.00 Join Ferry [0] (n=kristoff@2-1-5-40a.gmt.gbg.bostream.se) 22.18.32 # The changes in the new ipodpatcher are tiny, and shouldn't affect anything. It just makes the 1g/2g behave like the 3g. 22.19.14 # * amiconn rewrites bootpartition.bin 22.19.49 # * tucoz is curious on progress status of the TTS SoC project 22.20.03 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 22.20.05 # markun keeps it very quiet tucoz ;) 22.20.11 # * DerPapst wonders what -a did again 22.20.26 # (a)dd a bootloader 22.20.31 # he sure does. but his student keeps it even quieter as far as i can tell 22.20.35 # Is it possible remote control my iaudio player via USB while playing? 22.20.54 # tucoz: last time I asked it was going ok 22.21.11 # DerPapst: -a installs a bootloader and keeps OF. -wf writes the bootloader as a firmware, removing the OF 22.21.11 # great :) 22.21.21 # * linuxstb_ commits the ipodpatcher changes to prove how trivial they are 22.21.38 # confidence - that's what we like to see! 22.21.39 # had big probs ystdy installing on sansa e280. Today have fresh new one w Sandisk f/w updated to 1.02.18. Should I insert (for first time) a microSD b4 copying .rockbox & fonts to root and running sansapatcher? 22.21.42 # amiconn: thanks.. now i remember again. :) 22.21.54 # ...erm... 22.22.12 # My ipod doesn't like its own dump anymore? 22.22.27 # * amiconn retries 22.22.28 # fluxam: could you please write proper english so our blind / non-native english speakers can understand you ? 22.22.57 # ooops 22.22.58 # Ferry: Not with rockbox in it's current form AFAIK 22.23.07 # Seems I overwrote my partition table 22.23.14 # hahaha 22.23.37 # * linuxstb_ points amiconn to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 22.23.38 # * GodEater__ is glad to see even amiconn is capable of errors 22.24.09 # * amiconn was about to use ipod updater 22.24.25 # * linuxstb_ is also curious about the USB SoC project 22.24.36 # which will be faster 22.24.41 # no recent reports from austriancoder ? 22.24.44 # Now if I knew what offset I took my bootpartition dump from... 22.24.51 # linuxstb_, me too :) 22.25.13 # Can you see an Apple "Stop sign" ? 22.25.23 # yes 22.25.33 # That's the first sector of the first partition. 22.25.40 # ah ok 22.25.48 # So I didn't dump the first track 22.25.50 # Had problems yesterday. Firmware on brand-new Sansa e280 is upgraded to 1.02.18A. Is it best to insert for the first time a 2Gb microSD before starting Rocbox install work. Also, should I reformat prior to install? 22.26.40 # fluxam: I don't believe you need to do either. Have you tried using rbutil to do your install ? 22.26.50 # fluxam: What problems did you have yesterday? The install instructions don't mention reformatting or a microSD card being required. 22.27.39 # Ok, I would like to use my iaudio as a stereo-unit since it's sound quality overwhelmes my soundcard. Guess there's some programming to do then, if it's even possible. 22.27.39 Quit MournBlade ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.27.43 # fluxam: and are you certain your e280 is not an e280r ? 22.28.13 # Ferry: there's a lot of programming today - for a start we need our working USB driver - which someone is working on already 22.28.18 # s/today/todo 22.28.43 # GodEater__: But no-one is working on iaudio USB afaik... 22.29.16 # linuxstb: possibly not - but any usb stack is an improvement on none at all as a starting place ne c'est pas ? 22.30.25 # Llorean ? 22.30.43 # Yes? 22.30.50 # dd writing takes ages in cygwin :/ 22.31.00 # did you mean you last line in that 3G post to read "NOT on the front page" ? 22.31.07 # everything takes ages in cygwin 22.31.16 Join chrisjs169_ [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 22.31.25 # GodEater__: Well, I meant the relevant information is on the front page. 22.31.27 # Mine is e280, not Rhapsody. Reformatting I ask about because anythingbutipod says to reformat after any firmware upgrade; I couldn't understand why. 22.31.40 # Llorean: ah I see - slightly confusing 22.31.47 # fluxam: Following unofficial instructions could be why you've had problems in the past. 22.32.05 # GodEater__: Fixed, then. 22.32.44 # fluxam: I would imagine their instructions refer to sansa firmwares - not ours - but if they do - they're talking crap, and as Llorean says - you should follow our instructions, not theirs 22.33.06 # fluxam: also - I'd still recommend RockboxUtility to do the install 22.33.06 Quit chrisjs169 (Nick collision from services.) 22.33.11 Nick chrisjs169_ is now known as chrisjs169 (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 22.34.01 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.34.39 # The e280 now has only what Sandisk provided and my MP3s; yesterday there were some Oggs. Could Oggs have caused a freeze at logo bootup when checking file database? 22.35.39 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.35.39 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.36.33 # fluxam: do you mean the first boot after you installed rockbox ? 22.36.49 # fluxam: if so then no, since database is not enabled by default. 22.36.55 Quit Jens () 22.37.04 # hmm? 22.37.19 # The bootloader (now added with -a) just boots OF? 22.38.00 # It shouldn't do - it should stop with an error. 22.38.07 # (if there is no rockbox installed) 22.38.20 # The embedded bootloader from ipodpatcher 1.1 (release) works 22.38.24 # Rockbox is installed 22.38.52 # But bootloader-r13985 (from before your change) just boots OF 22.38.59 # Does "ipodpatcher --list" show the bootloader is installed? 22.38.59 # * GodEater__ chides linuxstb for his blasphemy of suggestion amiconn wouldn't have installed it 22.39.00 # Godeater: Yes, I mean that the player was stuck at the Sandisk logo, and i saw earlier that that's when database gets checked. But you say (confirm?) that files aren't checked for compatibility. 22.39.38 # With the embedded bootloader it does 22.39.47 # Will try with r13985 22.39.49 # fluxam: not the first time you boot up after you install rockbox 22.39.55 # fluxam: The database does not get checked at the Sandisk logo. Neither Rockbox nor Sandisk's database are checked then. 22.40.19 # amiconn: If you hold RIGHT as the bootloader boots, it should display messages. Or hold PLAY to try and load the IPL kernel (which should also display messages if it fails). 22.40.36 # more blasphemy! 22.41.05 # Right tells no messages 22.41.12 Join belze_ [0] (i=nifty@dslb-088-073-237-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.41.33 # amiconn: I encountered a similar problem with the Nano bootloader at some point semi recently, iirc. 22.41.43 # There was a period where the bootloaders didn't work, doing what you describe. 22.41.48 # Slasheri: u there? 22.42.03 # And holding Play also just boots OF 22.42.39 # What happens if you set "verbose=1" (in bootloader/common.c iirc) ? 22.43.11 # That should at least indicate if it's running at all... 22.43.19 # fluxam: I'm curious to hear where you're getting your information on what gets checked when 22.44.40 # GodEater__: fluxam might be talking about the OF database - IIUC, the Sansa firmware rebuilds the database on each boot... 22.45.06 # Llorean claims otherwise... 22.45.26 # linuxstb_: Not during the Sansa logo display though 22.45.30 # That's strictly the flash bootloader 22.45.48 # GodEater: I had watched rebuild database roll by and thought that happens whenever firmware is reinstalled. Yes, I think linuxstb has it, though I don't know what OF db is. 22.45.50 # Once you're in the OF, a window will pop up telling you the database is being build, but that's a good deal later 22.45.54 # Llorean: I didn't see your reply, I'll now keep quiet as I've never seen a Sansa boot... 22.46.00 # linuxstb: Just apple logo -> OF 22.46.04 # No text 22.46.09 # OF = original firmware fluxam 22.46.15 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 22.46.24 # fluxam: What do you mean "watched rebuild database roll by"? 22.46.47 # amiconn: That's very weird... 22.46.54 # * linuxstb_ checks the changelog 22.46.59 # surely that would mean the rockbox bootloader isn't installed then, as it sounds like it's starting the sansa firmware 22.47.10 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 22.47.14 # Llorean: I guess the forum guy is talking about the bootloades that show red in the buildtable 22.47.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.47.28 # linuxstb: Either ipodpatcher has problems with non-builtin bootloaders, or the bootloader has gone haywire 22.47.45 # I used ipodpatcher 1.1 with -a 22.48.01 # ipodpatcher --list says bootloader is present 22.48.10 # Maybe it has to do with bootloader size? 22.48.14 # pixelma: Ah, okay, ammended my post. 22.48.27 # svn bootloader is larger than the built-in ones 22.49.25 # linuxstb: Third-party bootloader - 49404 bytes 22.49.32 # Llorean: I saw a green line marching right saying db was being rebuilt -- with the Sandisk firmware upgrade. But you say that shouldn't occur immediately after Sansapatcher 'i" . 22.49.35 # (this is with verbose = true;) 22.49.52 # fluxam: Then you were in the Sandisk firwmare? 22.49.53 # amiconn: Is that the same size (minus the 8 byte header) as the .ipod file? 22.50.11 # yes 22.50.20 # fluxam: All I said was that the database is not rebuilt when the Sandisk logo is displaying. 22.50.56 # linuxstb: do you know which svn version was used for ipodpatcher 1.1? 22.51.04 # Then I could perform a binary search 22.51.39 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 22.52.54 Quit belze_ ("Ich weiß deine Monster sind genau wie meine, und mit denen bleibt man besser nicht alleine.") 22.53.00 # amiconn: I don't know the SVN revision, but the .ipod files on the download server are dated 23 May. 22.53.25 Join webguest03 [0] (i=45ea3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5f02e5b12a21c2b4) 22.53.40 # * linuxstb should learn how to tag releases in SVN... 22.54.13 # 500 revisions... 22.54.35 # hello guy. quick question is there a way so when u turn off rockbox the whole system doesnt have to start again?? like if u shut off in normal apple OS and turn it back on and it goes back to where u were in apple OS 22.54.49 # webguest03: No. 22.54.52 # * amiconn will make a 2nd checkout 22.54.58 # Okay, thanks, I'll try again. No known major issues with today's July 26 build? 22.54.58 # =( 22.55.23 # tucoz: had a phone call ... just looking at your diff 22.55.27 # webguest03: But you can enable "auto-resume" so that music plays back when you turn your ipod on. 22.55.36 # thought about using a html view too. 22.55.45 # (or just press PLAY immediately after turning on) 22.55.45 # yes, i read that in the logs 22.56.04 # so I'm for committing. Just don't forget the resource file ;-) 22.56.14 # hmm, what is that? 22.56.22 # the html? 22.56.28 # rbutilqt.qrc 22.56.33 # oohh ok... but its always gotta start off in with the apple window thingy? 22.56.49 # fluxam: once again I recommend you try the install using Rockbox Utility 22.56.56 # it's an xml-like file which lists some files that you can access using this ":/" path prefix 22.57.05 # that way the file ends up in the binary 22.57.07 # yes. i added the html to that one 22.57.22 # well, then go for it ;-) 22.57.33 # * Domonoky has nearly wrapped the rockbox install in a class.. 22.57.36 # it's really great to see that much interest in the port 22.57.41 # so to easy reuse it :-) 22.57.47 # cool. 22.58.35 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.58.38 # bluebrother: you now have to only give some info and a progresswindow, and connect to a done signal.. :-) 22.59.11 # I hope you don't make it too complicated for me as C++ newbie ;-) 22.59.34 # templates should be made illegal 23.00.05 # bluebrother, committed. let's hope i don't break anything... 23.00.17 # I'll scream if you did :P 23.00.58 # its easy, 23.01.04 # amiconn: Current SVN bootloader (with the call to set_cpu_frequency commented out) works fine on my Color 23.01.05 # * tucoz goes looking for his hearing protecors 23.01.17 # linuxstb: how large is it? 23.01.23 # aaah. Looks muuuch better :) 23.01.26 # 49596 bytes 23.01.43 # This is installed with -a and the current SVN ipodpatcher. 23.01.49 # I just downloaded a "rbutil-01a-setup.exe" for win; I see there's also one for Mac. Is that Win version okay? 23.02.07 # bluebrother, the licence? 23.02.17 # 13482 works 23.02.26 # yes. 23.02.30 # fluxam: where did you get that ? 23.02.38 # nice 23.02.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility <-- the official page 23.02.50 # I always disliked the need to resize the window to see it completely. 23.03.51 # bluebrother, btw. what do you use to develop? it would be nice to have some sort of "intellisence" ala visual studio, when developing using the qt API. 23.03.59 # * Domonoky will no commit the installer changes :-) 23.04.02 # +w 23.04.36 # Godeater:http://www.mail-archive.com/rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se/msg00345.html is what Google offered; I got the .326 ver now. 23.05.21 # amiconn: What was the order you did things? I assume you started with a restored firmware partition, and then which bootloader did you install first? 23.05.24 # fluxam: thats very old, ther first version of rbutil :-) 23.05.47 # linuxstb: I installed the release version first 23.06.00 # 13746 works too, continue binsearching... 23.06.12 # okay -- I'll try with rbutil now. Thanks much! 23.06.15 Quit fluxam ("CGI:IRC") 23.06.41 # hmm. http is crawling slow here :( 23.08.47 # 13878 does *not* work 23.10.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.12.51 Part Domonoky 23.13.04 Quit GodEater__ ("bedtime....") 23.13.17 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 23.13.42 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 23.15.14 Part tucoz ("god natt") 23.16.15 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 23.16.22 # Bagder: Good evening. How would you grep in the MAINTAINERS file now? e.g. to find everything a certain person maintains? 23.17.18 Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-234-224.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 23.17.22 # meh, lang cleanup breakes voice file generation... will take a bit of hacking to fix... next week perhaps... 23.17.32 # it takes a slightly more complicated script, but this way will allow us to detect things like unmaintained areas etc 23.18.09 # Putting everything on a single line with separators would seem easier... 23.18.11 # i've been sync'ing to svn & building daily w/ a few patches, is there a good way to manage all this? right now i've been doing: reverse the patches, then svn up, then reapply patches & build, then tomorrow start over again removing patches 23.18.31 # iamben: You usually shouldn't need to remove the patches. 23.18.39 # iamben: just do "svn up" then fix any conflicts.... 23.18.41 # linuxstb: yes, but if everyone would also add explanations etc it could become fairly long lines... 23.18.50 # i admit i dont really understand svn 23.18.54 Quit metalic ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.19.13 # I'm open for other formats, I don't have a very strong opinion for my approach 23.19.14 # svn is snart enough to merge new code with your modified files. 23.19.15 # iamben: if a patch conflicts with an updated file, svn will tell you 23.19.18 # ...most of the time 23.20.15 # well i tried just letting it "do its thing", and then my build failed with undefined "album_art_stuff" because svn updated a file i had previously patched for AA 23.20.19 # linuxstb: we should at least prefix the areas somehow to be able to separate them from other various texts 23.20.26 # and afaik, it didnt tell me anything when it updated it 23.21.41 # iamben: you need to watch the output carefully. If there is a conflict it will show. 23.21.49 Part nls 23.22.15 # * amiconn has a suspicion 23.22.44 # bluebrother: gotcha, i'll pay more attention 23.22.46 # thanks guys 23.22.50 # linuxstb: Could you check an svn bootloader on your video? 23.22.50 # iamben: you could search in your tree for *.mine" or *.orig files 23.22.51 # Bagder: How about something like ":Area name:maintainer 1, maintainer 2" ? So "grep ^:.*:$" will give non-maintained areas. 23.22.57 # on linux you can look for colorsvn. 23.22.59 # * amiconn thinks it should be broken too 23.23.01 # amiconn: I was just about to., 23.23.12 # makes spotting conflicts somewhat easier ;-) 23.23.23 # linuxstb: would work for me! 23.24.27 # Bagder: I'm not sure what to do with something like my own "ASF parsing only" comment though. 23.25.03 # linuxstb: it should probably be either put in a separate line (somehow) or just cut out... 23.25.17 # linuxstb: If my theory is right, mini G2, nano and video bootloaders should be broken 23.25.28 # linuxstb: Why not just add a new category for it? 23.25.33 # amiconn: Yes, straight to the Apple firmware... 23.25.59 # Looks like is my fault... r13763 strikes back 23.31.15 # I think obo once told here 23.31.26 # * DerPapst expects the G1/G2 port to be one of the fastest ;-P 23.32.07 # yes - r13763 broke the ipod video bootloader for me 23.33.24 # Somehow the changed CPU #define breaks those bootloaders 23.33.28 # * amiconn investigates 23.36.41 # ooops 23.36.55 # Seems I overlooked some ifdefs in an .lds file 23.37.10 Join webguest82 [0] (i=41b976a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a6fe6535f0f79a10) 23.40.44 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.45.56 # ! 23.48.45 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.51.23 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.52.20 # all fixed :) 23.55.47 # So "Gentelmen, we have sound!" ? 23.56.05 # hahaha 23.56.20 # :) 23.56.25 # I now have a working code base to *start* adding the g1/g2 23.56.54 Join davina [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 23.57.57 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.58.47 # GodEater: i quickly loooked at your code and the wiki page for the list widget is wrong, you dont redraw if gui_synclist_do_button() returns true 23.58.51 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))