--- Log for 06.08.107 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 12 hours ago 00.00.19 # * jhMikeS has an old TEAC reel 2 reel that makes a nice echo and outer-space noises when setup right 00.02.13 # jhMikeS: yeah 00.02.26 # tape delays > * 00.04.41 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.04.42 Quit advcomp2019 ("Leaving") 00.05.06 Quit obo_ ("bye") 00.06.15 # austriancoder: can you put devdsc and dqdsc in iram too.... it's what the code tries to send 00.06.57 # petur: sure 00.07.38 # bah, it is still 27 degrees celcius inside :( 00.08.39 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 00.10.36 # preglow: lowpass filter = rag around headphones. feedback control = how far mic is away from headphones. delay time => tape speed. such fun as a kid. :) 00.10.50 # hahah, yeah 00.10.52 # i love stuff like that 00.11.03 Join chrisjs169__ [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 00.11.45 # i made a phone echo device the other day by calling my house phone with my cell phone and stuffing them both together with various materials between them :P 00.12.02 # yes, i'm a sound geek 00.13.14 # too bad the delay time is fixed at the roundtrip time 00.13.55 # with me the ipod video randomly freezes up and i have to reset 00.14.12 Quit Soul-Slayer ("Leaving.") 00.15.44 # hehe. i've made those by accident by turning mic gain too high in the recording screen. :P 00.16.17 Quit chrisjs169 (Success) 00.17.10 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 00.17.37 Part maffe 00.18.06 # * jhMikeS still awaits those effects plugins :-D 00.18.17 # petur: http://www.christian-gmeiner.info/soc/mrh_try4.diff 00.18.22 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 00.18.23 # petur: same results 00.18.27 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 00.18.35 Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) 00.18.41 Join tihoc4n [0] (n=Compaq_A@206-163-245-208.swcr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 00.18.43 # using invalidate_icache and flush_icache 00.18.45 # hmmmm 00.18.52 Quit tihoc4n (Client Quit) 00.19.05 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 00.20.59 # what's the memcpy in usb_int doing? 00.21.07 # your mom 00.21.30 # =\ 00.21.48 # jhMikeS: copy rx usb request into a local variable 00.22.00 # jhMikeS: copy it from iram 00.22.37 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.23.41 # austriancoder: it sends it to where? 00.24.02 Quit chrisjs169_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.25.29 # jhMikeS: in usb_int we check if a setup request was recived... if so, copy the request from queuehead (IRAM) to a local variable (no IRAM) now we can check what type of request.....do some stuff.... send back an answer or stall 00.26.47 # jhMikeS: and the probem is tx... sending of the answer 00.27.28 # austriancoder: is everything we give the controller in iram now? 00.28.06 # petur: forgot one... but I am compiling.. one momen 00.28.07 # t 00.29.35 # petur: http://www.christian-gmeiner.info/soc/mrh_try5.diff - same result 00.30.14 # rockbox is jesus 00.30.19 # austriancodec: no more writes occur to the data the controller will be sending after the flush_icache call? 00.30.44 Nick chrisjs169__ is now known as chrisjs169 (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 00.31.02 # austriancodeR, sorry :P 00.31.09 # lol 00.31.29 # what dir is select.c in? 00.31.35 Quit authumalk (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client") 00.32.12 # ddalton: $(dirname $(find . -name 'select.c' | head -n 1)) 00.34.13 # jhMikeS: no 00.35.58 # using usb_int during the tick and not its IRQ line? 00.36.36 # jhMikeS: its only a fast merge of e200tool into rockbox.. 00.36.49 # jhMikeS: later I will use IRQ 00.37.38 # jhMikeS: it should not be the problem, 00.37.45 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@66-90-157-228.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 00.38.06 # * austriancoder is helpless at the moment 00.40.44 Part n1s 00.40.47 # time to go to bed 00.41.52 # wait 00.42.09 # there's no flush in usb_send though 00.42.44 # ... 00.43.26 # jhMikeS: Why do i need one in usb_send? 00.43.42 # * petur would think that would result in sending garbage, not the controller giving timeout 00.43.51 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.43.55 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 00.44.00 # you do a memcpy 00.44.07 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.44.28 # jhMikeS: in dtd_enqueue(...) i do the flush, before i do "hey controller.. send my data" (=Priming) 00.45.09 # jhMikeS: I do the memcpy, but actual sending is done in dtd_enqueue. 00.45.12 # yeah, the destination is IRAM though ... hrm 00.45.16 Quit ender` (" But there, everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the fu) 00.46.13 Join advcomp2019- [0] (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 00.47.13 # if perhaps I'm going to try to seriously spot something, I should not look at the patch alone :P 00.47.38 # jhMikeS: datasheet: http://www.christian-gmeiner.info/soc/MCIMX31RM.pdf 00.47.43 Quit ompaul ("night all") 00.47.51 # thanks 00.47.55 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 00.48.00 # jhMikeS: chaper 32 i think 00.48.05 Nick advcomp2019- is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 00.49.56 # austriancoder: so now your log is saying timeout->prime right? 00.50.36 # petur: HW_ERROR Endptstat 0x0 recived packet TIMEOUT->port 00.51.20 # Endptstat must be != 0x0 as this tells, that sending was ok 00.52.10 # hmmm it is dtd_enqueue() that is failing I'd think 00.52.51 # petur: yep 00.53.02 # if ((UOG_ENDPTSTAT & mask) == 0) { logf("Endptstat 0x%x", UOG_ENDPTSTAT); logf("HW_ERROR"); } 00.53.10 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.15 # ah, but priming itself is not giving timeout 00.53.22 # petur: no 00.53.52 # petur: priming seems to be okay.. so the hardware should send data... and if sending is done, ENDPTSTAT should be != 0x0 00.53.54 # * petur swapped that timeout->port with timeout->prime... 00.55.25 # austriancoder: btw, did anything from my mail on 19/7 do anything helpfull? 00.56.05 # petur: not really... "fixed" all you pointed me, but the problem is still the same 00.56.11 # petur: do you own an sansa? 00.56.16 # or an ipod? 00.56.16 # nope 00.56.59 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.57.00 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.57.06 # austriancoder: just watch the log and plug it? 00.57.13 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.57.21 # jhMikeS: yep 00.57.26 # logf build 00.57.59 # jhMikeS: also a "dmesg" on a linux machine is a good thing 00.58.18 # usb 1-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 20usb 1-8: device descriptor read/64, error 18usb 1-8: device descriptor read/64, error 18 00.58.22 # --> bad :( 00.58.44 # undefined reference to dr_controller setup :\ 00.58.54 # well I'm out of ideas atm :/ 00.59.25 # jhMikeS: one moment 01.00.20 # I need a more complete patch? 01.01.53 # jhMikeS: http://www.christian-gmeiner.info/soc/mrh_try6.diff 01.02.19 # ikeS: 01.02.36 # * austriancoder hopes that jhMikeS can help with the usb problem 01.02.45 # * austriancoder or mrh 01.03.10 # * jhMikeS has no idea what's going on but finds it interesting anyway 01.04.02 # now... time for bed 01.04.14 # gnight 01.04.35 # jhMikeS: if you found something... could you mail me? You should have my mail - or? 01.06.03 # yeah, np 01.06.33 # fine 01.06.44 # petur: see you 01.06.47 Quit austriancoder ("Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org") 01.07.15 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.10.51 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.166.122) 01.12.25 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.13.39 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.17.28 Join inversion [0] (n=none@89.100.103.62) 01.19.29 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.20.50 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 01.24.23 Join prashantv [0] (i=prashant@weill.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) 01.24.29 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.25.16 Quit Entasis_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.29.27 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 01.36.04 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.36.05 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 01.36.47 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.36.51 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 01.37.03 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.37.14 Quit xNibbler ("bei uns hat noch niemals nicht koana koan durscht ned ghabt") 01.43.45 Join yole [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.44.05 # i cant' seem to find this: is there a way to apply ratings to songs in rock box? 01.47.23 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.48.28 Join weoh [0] (n=weoh@71-220-133-15.tcsn.qwest.net) 01.52.30 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-295dc0aa3d4132f3) 01.54.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.57.48 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=jonno@78.145.55.95) 01.58.45 # * jhMikeS now sees no logs 01.59.27 # on device? 01.59.49 # Are "debug" or "logf" builds expected to compile? 02.00.33 # don't know about debug, but logf should 02.00.40 # petur: I plug it and no errors happen 02.01.23 # I tried a logf, and if I recall, it failed all over the place in... it was either speex or spc 02.01.25 # no usb related logf? 02.01.52 # nope since it only logs on failures 02.01.59 # I was trying to build for Nano to get some output in relation to the issue I was having trying to fix the custom logo patch, and ended up just using some puts 02.02.24 # jhMikeS: add a logf to see that it actually does something? 02.02.47 # my computer doesn't complain about not recognizing the device now 02.03.08 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 02.03.18 # maybe it doesn't do anything at all..... 02.05.01 # it used to always say "USB device not recognized" before ... gonna try something 02.06.07 Quit yole (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.07.59 # hmmm 02.10.52 # lol...had the controller shut off 02.18.54 # heh, success. there seems to be a race condition when pluggin. I plugged slow and no problems. 02.19.24 # you mean you have his code working? 02.19.40 # I also readded the proper udelays that were improperly replaced with counters 02.21.36 # well, I'm receiving stuff but it's twitchy to even do that. 02.21.47 # so there was a timing issue.... 02.22.43 # I get alot of TIMEOUT->port 02.23.00 # that was his problem 02.23.44 # maybe the timeout is too small 02.24.15 # it just does a while loop checking a bit 02.26.07 # would using interrupts help? 02.26.30 # he went to this code because nothing was working 02.26.51 # better get it working first 02.27.21 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.27.24 # but wouldn't it be easy to enable interrupts? 02.28.04 # his code wasn't working, so he merged in the code of MrH which doesn't use interrupts 02.29.55 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.30.09 # but he has a usb_int function there which is currently called by the timer interrupt. can't we just enable the usb interrupt and call usb_int with that? 02.30.11 # thing just froze my computer ... wtf 02.30.37 # any idea why putting a table in IRAM can make code slightly slower on the PP targets? 02.31.04 # cached memory is faster I've found on e200 02.31.20 # isn't IRAM 0 cycle? 02.32.01 # I don't think so. I tried it with the video chroma buffer and using cached ram instead of IRAM gave a speedup. 02.32.14 # interesting 02.33.07 # the SPC codec suffers using IRAM heavily as well 02.33.15 # is IRAM always >= cache on Coldfire? 02.33.35 # no, IRAM on Coldfire is nescessary since it has no DRAM cache 02.33.46 # hmm 02.34.16 # it does have a code cache though and small repetitive functions can run just the same not being IRAM there 02.36.26 # interestingly, I still get a slowdown from IRAM even on the 3G with its 2 cycle L1 cache 02.36.34 # i wonder if theres something else going on 02.40.00 Part maffe 02.40.46 Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@barmen.interhost.no) 02.41.39 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 02.44.01 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 02.47.20 # i just absent mindly dragged an ipod 3G rockbox build over my sansa's install 02.47.26 # surprisingly it booted 02.47.39 # though the wps looks pretty funny 02.48.05 # And it'll be trying to spin up a drive that doesn't exist :p 02.48.21 # it's probably still running the sansa firmware 02.48.28 # because of the different filenames 02.48.36 # probably why the codecs didn't work 02.49.02 # saratoga: Try a H10 build, they use MI4's. Of course, it probably isn't a good idea, but meh ;) 02.50.04 # * barrywardell_ did the opposite earlier today - sansa build on h10 02.50.26 # nothing exciting happened :( 02.50.39 # I imagine it couldn't read the disk though? 02.51.09 # Ahh I'm tempted to try it, stop it 02.51.39 # the main binary has different names on the two platforms, so each would load the correct core, but all the data files, plugins and codecs would be wrong 02.52.02 # saratoga: For the Sansa and the H10 they're both 'rockbox.mi4' 02.52.12 # oh sorry i meant the ipod and sansa 02.52.16 # Ahh okay. 02.52.33 # removing the huffman coding tables from IRAM makes the Ipod 3G wma decoder slighter faster 02.53.13 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.53.33 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.55.30 Quit toffe82 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 02.58.46 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.150.25) 03.32.57 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.33.12 Join yole [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a2581-CM00137116d20e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.39.42 Join infamis [0] (i=4417aa32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a821bd8aa43f9b39) 03.50.47 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 03.52.18 Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC") 03.53.21 Join KyleP [0] (i=18a4af66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-856baebbfbd76876) 03.53.35 Join Spiorf__ [0] (n=Spiorf@host113-205-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 03.53.41 # please help me, how do I play my ipod video files with rockbox? 03.54.33 # Convert them into mpeg2 with the correct screen resolution. But if your ipod is a 5g, you're better off using the OF. 03.54.35 # Read the manual, Rockbox only plays MPEG1/2 videos. 03.54.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.54.58 # whats OF? 03.55.09 # original firmware? 03.55.13 # Yep. 03.55.21 # can I dual boot? 03.55.24 # Yep. 03.55.31 # or should I just take it off? 03.55.32 # Flick the hold switch on when you turn it on. 03.55.35 # how do I do that? 03.55.38 # And it'll boot into Apple OS 03.55.42 # ok 03.55.45 # thanks man 03.55.47 # Hold Menu + Select to reboot into Rockbox again. 03.55.57 Join ToHellWithGA [0] (n=ryan@d15-254.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net) 03.55.58 # No problem. Read the manual, it's all there. 03.56.04 Quit yole (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.56.41 # am i supposed to "turn off" rockbox at any point? 03.56.50 # Turn off? 03.56.55 # when i hold the pause button to turn it off for too long i can't figure out how to turn it back on 03.57.03 # it reboots 03.57.06 # What player? 03.57.08 # am i doing it wrong? 03.57.12 # ipod video, 5g 03.57.18 # brand spankin' new :) 03.57.34 # That should shut it down... Hold down the play button for a few seconds and it should turn off. 03.57.57 Quit inversion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.58.15 # when i turn it back on it boots 03.58.20 # is that the correct way to do things? 03.58.26 # i don't wanna drain it when the playlist runs out 03.58.34 Join ctaylorr_ [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.58.41 # There is no sleep mode in RB 03.58.52 Quit KyleP ("CGI:IRC") 03.59.06 # It will power off when you hold play, then it'll reboot when you tap a button again. 03.59.36 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.59.47 Nick ctaylorr_ is now known as ctaylorr (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.10.07 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.10.40 Quit Spiorf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.16.46 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.19.43 Join JdGord|uni [0] (i=82c20d66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-06e753c48c788fba) 04.21.02 # hey all 04.21.12 # Llorean: have you had a look at the updated 5464? 04.22.57 # No, I haven't 04.29.24 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 04.32.27 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 04.33.05 # Out of curiousity, why are // style comments prohibited? 04.33.55 # becauser they are not in the c99 standard 04.36.40 # C99 or C89? 04.37.07 # 80 col length and space rather than tab indents to keep the SVN diffs from looking warped I presume? 04.37.11 # I was under the impression C99 is when they were added 04.39.45 # http://home.tiscalinet.ch/t_wolf/tw/c/c9x_changes.html#Preprocessor 04.57.05 Quit JdGord|uni ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.59.07 Quit daugustine ("Leaving") 05.05.09 Join daugustine [0] (n=daugusti@76-85-193-69.cable.inebraska.com) 05.06.52 Join DogBoy [0] (n=john@unaffiliated/dogboy) 05.07.36 # is there somewhere I can look for opinions about the best platform for rockbox? 05.12.07 # DogBoy, several. check the forums and mailing lists 05.12.18 # this topic has been done loads of times. 05.12.22 # 90% of it depends on what you want out of it anyway 05.12.31 # How do I diff a file that doesn't currently exist? 05.12.43 # svn add the file to your local repository 05.12.52 # I figured it had been done loads of times 05.13.07 # that's why I figure there must be somewhere to look for the info 05.13.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide is the best basic place 05.14.18 # thank you Llorean 05.14.35 # my ipod died and I'm not sure I want to go there again 05.22.04 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 05.22.16 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.22.43 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.28.23 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.28.27 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 05.28.39 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.36.26 # What happened to database caching? I was asked to try a new official build to verify if a bug that I entered still exists. While testing this (bug was related to the database creation issues on the Sansa) I no longer see the "cache database in memory" setting. 05.38.04 # "Load database to RAM" you mean? 05.40.00 # I believe that's what it was called 05.40.32 # And still is 05.40.50 # jurrie: What player do you have? 05.40.51 # Settings -> General -> Database -> Load to RAM -> Yes 05.41.13 # Sansa 05.41.29 # lemme get my player and triple check 05.41.41 # jurrie: Are you using English, or another language? 05.42.19 # there is no such option 05.42.22 # using English 05.42.59 # r14121-070801 05.43.16 # That's 4 days old 05.43.27 # yeah, and I got it after I received the request 05.43.36 # this past week as the clean up week 05.43.37 # Then it may be fixed 05.43.51 # We do ask that you not report anything without verifying it on a current build 05.44.00 # OK... I'll fetch another copy tomorrow.... 05.44.08 # I reported it last month 05.44.28 # Reported the missing "Load to RAM" last month? 05.44.31 # OK... I'll check again tomorrow... at least it's not crashing anymore 05.44.38 # Why not check again right now? 05.44.59 # nope... the "database is crashing when buiding" was last month. No time.... it's almost midnight. Have a 6:30 call. need sleep 05.45.42 # Rockbox is updated many times per day, so 'current' usually means 'downloaded within the last few minutes' 05.46.08 # I don't see Load to Ram on the Sansa though 05.47.26 # It may have gotten lost in the removal of some features for flash targets 05.48.42 # It doesn't really make sense for flash targets (neither does dircache) though it shouldn't be removed as autoupdate depends on dircache for removing files. 05.49.02 # Have you verified that your Database is missing any features, or are you just complaining about the lack of a menu option? 05.51.00 Quit ToHellWithGA (Nick collision from services.) 05.51.08 Join ToHellWithGA [0] (n=ryan@d18-19.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net) 05.51.21 Quit ToHellWithGA (Client Quit) 05.51.47 Quit andrewg867 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.51.48 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.51.51 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.52.40 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.53.34 Quit ptw419 () 05.54.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.57.51 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.06.30 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 06.08.13 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 06.10.53 Join aliask_uni [0] (i=82c20d69@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3d259f141fd2d749) 06.15.11 Quit Soul-Slayer ("Leaving.") 06.20.06 Join tihoc4n [0] (n=Compaq_A@206-163-245-208.swcr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 06.20.37 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.22.03 # not complaining... just wondered if that functionality had intentionally been removed. The flashing "Searching... 0 found ()" messages made me look. Didn't have those messages in the past. 06.22.55 Join chrisjs169_ [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-254-214-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 06.22.59 # I understand bout "current".... again, I just wondered if the option was intentionally pulled. I'll fetch a fresh copy when I have a chance to post/comment 06.23.21 # Well it's not there in "Current" which is why I was asking if any actual features of the database seemed to be failing. 06.24.39 # no, things seem to be working (albums, and titles are listed properly) 06.25.08 Join SolarWar1 [0] (n=SolarWar@c-66-30-16-103.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 06.25.37 # I'm more concerned about deleting removed files on updates. 06.28.47 Part tihoc4n 06.35.45 Quit chrisjs169 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.37.28 # Is reversi the same as go? 06.38.10 Join GRaTT [0] (i=gratty@d216-232-96-212.bchsia.telus.net) 06.38.41 # Llorean I managed to get the custom splash working, but after the RB logo. 06.39.31 # aliask_uni: It's very, very, very different other than it uses black and white pieces on a grid. 06.39.37 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 06.39.41 # GRaTT: Congrats 06.41.33 Quit SolarWar (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.48.28 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.48.32 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 06.48.46 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.50.39 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5535.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.51.51 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.52.32 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.55.56 Quit aliask_uni ("CGI:IRC") 06.58.49 Quit chrisjs169_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.58.56 Join WillGC [0] (n=chatzill@12.174.134.13) 06.59.21 # Can you hear me? 06.59.42 # I can 06.59.55 # Heh, I got message saying "You have to be registered" 07.00.37 # Is this supported by RockBox? http://murl.se/27015 07.00.41 # I'm very sure it is 07.00.59 # SAnsa e260 07.01.07 # you could post full urls 07.01.20 # I don't like to spam the channel 07.01.33 # WillGC: The list of supported players is on the front page of the site 07.02.05 # So I guess tomorrow I'll order the item 07.02.33 # Why the heck do most players only support WMA/MP3 anyways? 07.02.41 # I don't even know of anyone who uses WMA. 07.02.56 # microsoft pushing his own format 07.02.59 Join aowzone [0] (i=aowzone@c-68-51-107-246.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 07.03.07 # But it sucks 07.03.21 # almost all the basic users enciode their cds with windows media 07.03.26 # yes I know 07.03.32 # hey guys, i was taping a little local show tonight and drained my battery...i thought i read something at one point about reparing the partial wav file i have, but i cant seem to find that information 07.03.35 # I use a tuned version of Ogg-Vorbis 07.03.50 # yes ogg vorbis is better ... 07.03.52 # it shows a 400ish MB file, but its unplayable...is it recoverable? 07.04.30 # I suppose you could copy it to your PC and open it into a wave editing program? 07.04.57 # wont let me copy it 07.05.13 # "file or directory is corrupt..." 07.05.16 # stupid windows 07.05.17 # WillGC there are players that play ogg 07.05.23 # haha 07.05.27 # Why do you have a 400MB wave file? 07.05.34 # its the partial recording before the battery died 07.05.37 # I know, I have one, it just doesn't do it well. 07.05.49 # what one do you have 07.05.51 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.05.55 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 07.06.02 # IRive 795 07.06.05 # got set 1, lost battery about 70% through set 2...just wasnt planning to tape this show, was out of town without my charger 07.06.09 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.06.12 # I-River 795 07.06.23 # have you looked at the cowons 07.06.37 # it would be so good if constructors started to use rockbox as their default firmware 07.07.14 # WillGC: The iFP-700 series has a pretty terrible ogg decoder. 07.07.21 # Yes, it does 07.07.39 # God knows why they didn't use Tremor 07.08.01 # They might've, but simply run into performance issues and had to tear it up some 07.08.06 # The thing has a pretty slow core. 07.08.11 # And very, very little RAM 07.08.50 # WillGC have you looked at the cowons.. i have heard they are good for all formats 07.08.59 # Cowons? 07.09.00 Quit aowzone () 07.09.41 # http://www.cowonamerica.com/ <--- there is the site 07.11.26 Quit WillGC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1-2007080401 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007080106]") 07.14.35 Join WGC [0] (n=chatzill@nat.pinelink.org) 07.14.40 # oops 07.14.51 # Anyways, I think I'll stick with the Sansa 07.16.22 # i have a sansa too but it is the r version :( 07.16.37 # I'm looking at a non-r version 07.16.51 # yea 07.22.01 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.22.05 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 07.22.19 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.24.53 Join |desowin| [0] (n=desowin@avc146.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 07.25.19 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.27.29 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-119-114-203.cpe.cableone.net) 07.28.10 # just had a quick question on the textviewer. Why does quotes and apostrophes sow up as dotted boxes? 07.28.17 # *show 07.28.35 # but WGC i was just commenting that i have the r version but i have to wait to get to rockbox or think i will never get it for the r version... i wish i got the non-r version now 07.30.51 Join Alonea___ [0] (n=chatzill@24-119-114-203.cpe.cableone.net) 07.30.51 Quit Alonea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.30.54 Nick Alonea___ is now known as Alonea (n=chatzill@24-119-114-203.cpe.cableone.net) 07.32.22 # If it doesn't say R on it at the Circuit City website, I can trust it's not? 07.33.17 # r versions are mainly at best buy or rhapsody 07.33.39 # Yeah, I saw them at BestBuy today 07.33.55 # Why would you want it taylored for an online music service? 07.34.18 # it was cheap at the time 07.34.28 # cheaper then the non r 07.35.10 # anyone know about the text viewer or no? 07.35.10 # I find it odd that the non-r version at CircuitCity is cheaper 07.37.20 # i got mine for $180 with griffin powerdock for free about 3 months ago now 07.37.49 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.38.06 # i got the e280r if you want to know 07.38.22 # the e260 costs 120 at CircuitCity 07.38.45 # not bad 07.39.31 # I think I may order it online and pick it up at the store. 07.39.37 # It'll save me money off the S&H 07.40.22 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1749E.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.41.40 # i think i saw the e280 for $30 or $50 more somewhere but cant of where now 07.41.57 # ebay? 07.42.13 # no it was in a store 07.42.53 # i bought 2 MP3 players on EBay for a total of 10 dollars with S&H 07.43.08 # Should have read the fine print, they have broken displays. 07.43.54 # oops 07.44.12 # what versions 07.44.15 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.44.17 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 07.44.28 # Sansa C something 07.44.31 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.45.20 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.45.34 # o ok 07.45.37 # They work, I just can't see what I'm doing 07.46.23 # i would take them if you do not need them 07.47.00 # I'm thinking about trying to get new LCD stuff for them. 07.48.27 # o ok 07.49.04 Quit |desowin| ("use linux") 07.50.35 # aha! it was in ansi, and that was why. resaved as utf-8 and its fine 07.52.22 # i thinking it was in last weeks ads now 07.53.25 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 07.54.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.57.04 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.57.08 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 07.57.22 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.57.23 # adv, is that a good deal? 08.00.18 # for the 8gb version i think it is but it is up to you 08.01.06 # I think I'll stick with what I chose before, I don't need that much memory. 08.01.26 # I have no plans of looking at videos. 08.01.34 # does anyone else think this this is a good buy --> http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sansa-e280-8gb-digital-multimedia-mp3-player/q/loc/111/203092435.html 08.01.55 # It's 5 dollars less than Circuit City 08.02.04 # but how much music do you have then 08.02.42 # 28 Gigs 08.02.49 # But I don't even listen to all of it 08.04.37 # ic... have you looked at hd based players or do you like them 08.04.37 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.05.12 # I don't really understand the difference. 08.05.40 # hd players have hard drives in them 08.05.50 # I meant the pros and cons 08.06.27 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.06.31 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 08.06.41 # Can someone ban him? 08.06.45 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.06.49 # His script is looping 08.07.28 # what is the difference with the r version on those sansa players 08.07.42 # pros-more space for the money... con-they can die easy if dropped or goes into hot and cold areas a lot 08.08.05 Join deshicool [0] (n=mohizzle@static.user33.209.42.49.dsli.com) 08.08.16 # DogBoy: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200R 08.08.34 # I think I made up my mind on that 4 gig Sansa 08.08.38 # i need help regarding mpeg player on ipod nano..can anyone pm me? 08.08.46 # I can always buy more memory if needed 08.08.48 # the r version cant be rockboxed yet but they can play aac files 08.09.37 # WGC: no you can't 08.09.46 # WGC: then you need to buy a new player 08.09.54 # i rockboxed one nano and it worked fine...played video perfectly..but the other one..the video was really choppy 08.09.55 # well, apart from the microsd 08.10.02 # they were both 1st gens 08.10.02 # It says in the description that it's expandable. 08.10.15 # WGC: yes, but the biggest microsd today is 2GB 08.10.30 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1749E.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.10.31 # I don't plan on putting that many files on the thing. 08.10.33 # yes but you can switch them out 08.10.42 # true 08.10.42 # like it was a mini cd 08.10.50 # if you're into that kind of game 08.11.11 # well anything else is just another kind of game 08.11.31 # yes of course 08.11.54 # I'm just not into switching microsd cards, so that approach hadn't even crossed my mind 08.11.57 # advcomp..is there anyway to fix it? 08.12.12 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.12.59 # yea well 08.13.07 # Cya 08.13.08 Join webguest38 [0] (i=c0231115@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f933bb3dae6735b1) 08.13.17 Quit WGC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1-2007080401 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007080106]") 08.13.23 # i am not sure there is a way because it is only 15 frames per second deshicool 08.13.52 # yea..its weird..works on one nano..and messes up on the other...the other plugins work fine 08.14.31 # deshicool: and both are using the same rockbox rev (version) ? 08.15.10 # yea 08.15.22 # that's mighty strange 08.15.26 # installed a week a part 08.15.36 # That's not the same revision at all unless you used the same file from before. 08.15.46 # oh sorry 08.15.49 # If you downloaded again it'll be a very very different revision, updates happen multiple times per day. 08.16.01 # oh 08.16.17 # hi B4gder 08.16.27 # would it be possible to get some rights on the tracker ? 08.16.43 # to close bugs for example 08.17.01 # indeed, just gimme your flyspray user name 08.17.10 # erm let me find that 08.17.32 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.17.37 # ok...well i still have the files from the rev. that worked on the nano 08.17.45 # ill just tell my friend to install those 08.18.22 # Were you testing with the exact same video file? 08.18.25 # B4gder: my user name is ... TiMiD ... tada ! 08.18.29 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.19.07 # i tested a couple of video files they came out choppy 08.19.14 # but came out fine on the other one 08.19.16 # :-) 08.19.21 Quit GRaTT ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 08.19.33 # has p6574 being commited yet? 08.19.57 # TiMiD[FD]: there, you should now be able to close and edit entries 08.19.59 # ddalton: It says it has on the tracker entry 08.20.33 # thanks ! 08.20.40 # Llorean when do you think patches like p6159 will be commited? 08.21.11 # thanks for the help 08.21.14 # goodnight 08.21.15 Quit deshicool ("�I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n� 2.0 Build 3515") 08.21.19 # ddalton: I can't predict that. I have no way of knowing. 08.21.43 # what prevents this patch from being included ? 08.22.02 # TiMiD[FD]: Before LangV2 it made the voice file too big on some players (Archoses) 08.22.14 # Now it probably needs to be tested with LangV2 and possibly updated for it. 08.22.53 # yeah, there should be lots of room for voice improvements now 08.23.16 # But all the voice improvement patches should take advantage of target-specific voice files, etc, too. 08.23.26 # indeed 08.23.44 # I have written a pretty useless patch p7525 and updated p6138 if anyone wants to look at them. 08.24.18 # B4gder: Any idea when nls is most often around? 08.24.50 # he's in central european time and seems to be around during our evenings 08.24.58 # Okay, thanks 08.25.01 # (08:24 am here now) 08.25.04 # i think p6159 has being tested on the lang2 thing cause there was an update to day. 08.25.11 # I think he may have inadvertently removed the "Load to RAM" option for Database on Sansa 08.25.19 # If anything it should be permanently enabled rather than disabled. 08.25.30 # yeah 08.28.25 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.28.29 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 08.28.43 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.30.18 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.30.57 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.37.43 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.37.45 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 08.37.59 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-91-46.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.40.22 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17379.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.41.54 # * B4gder is now 6 commits away from 10K commits on ohloh 08.42.15 # Anyone want to close 7445 as implemented ? 08.42.40 # GodEater: you can't? 08.42.43 # no 08.43.01 #