--- Log for 11.08.107 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 12 hours ago 00.02.52 # * amiconn likes all-green delta lines :) 00.03.15 # from what to what does that DAC go? 00.03.48 # could it not be coerced into outputting rather step-ish output? 00.03.52 # controller -> DAC -> audio amplifier 00.04.36 # ToHellWithGA: go join those guys that think they can send a tv signal through it... 00.04.55 # petur: i don't know how, it just seems like the driver level is plenty loud 00.04.56 # ToHellWithGA: even if it can, it would be totally unable to send the required frequencies for s/pdif 00.05.10 # (which lie in the MHz range) 00.05.14 # that's a much more practical outlook. bummer that 00.05.37 # i didn't realize s/pdif was so bit-hungry 00.05.46 # Same goes for tv out via an audio dac. Just forget it 00.05.52 # i assumed it was roughly on the same complexity as PCM 00.06.04 # s/pdif _is_ pcm 00.06.27 # But it is a serial signal, meaning it is sent bit by bit 00.06.50 # ...and it sends 32 bits for each sample, regardless of how many are used 00.07.05 # so it's 44,100 samples, 16 bits each, 2 channels each second. that's 14 million bits 00.07.13 # or perhaps 1.4 million 00.07.14 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.07.15 Join WGC______ [0] (n=chatzill@nat.pinelink.org) 00.07.19 # So you need to send 2*44100*32 bits per second 00.07.21 # still, that is bigger than i had thought 00.07.50 # ...which is 2.8 million bits/second 00.08.04 # sorry, why is it 2*32? 00.08.13 # [00:06:48] ...and it sends 32 bits for each sample, regardless of how many are used 00.08.15 # b/c the chip accepts up to 32 bits per sample? 00.08.18 Quit WGC_____ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.45 # .me is so glad he went mechanical engineering instead of computer/electrical engineering 00.08.56 # chips are tricky little buggers 00.10.36 Quit WGC (No route to host) 00.12.56 Nick WGC______ is now known as WGC (n=chatzill@nat.pinelink.org) 00.15.26 # hmmm 00.15.47 # * amiconn ponders removing the X5 specific code, and replace it with a generic implementation 00.16.14 # But *imo* the backlight should never be enabled if the user has disabled it, even not on shutdown 00.16.22 # On X5 this does happen atm 00.16.34 # generic is good 00.17.09 # anybody familiar with oldmenuapi.c in the pluginlib? Would it be ok to trap SYS_POWEROFF in the loop to make it quit the menu? 00.17.21 # I need generic code to stop the backlight thread from messing with the backlight anyway 00.17.47 # (in order to implement suspend, and it must be reversible so killing the thread is a no-no 00.18.05 # * Domonoky just commited uninstallation for rbutilQt :-) 00.18.18 # Bagder: fixed?! 00.18.26 # seems fixed to me 00.18.27 # I would think backlight should be enabled with no timeout on shutdown, unless the user has disabled it completely (in the current state) 00.18.43 # The actual power cut will switch it off 00.18.43 # I could load and use svenska fine 00.18.52 # amiconn: Sounds reasonable to me 00.19.14 # I get irritated on my Gigabeat as my timeout is about 1 second shorter than the actual shutdown. 00.19.16 # And suspend will do the opposite: disable backlight and keep it of until the wakeup message arrives 00.19.24 # So when restarting I try to turn it on, and see the shutting down splash 00.19.50 # amiconn: while you're in the backlight code: on h300 (at least) it acs strange on powerdown: light goes out and then flashes again shortly. 00.20.03 # s/acs/acts 00.20.23 # I guess that's an lcd effect. I've seen that on other targets too 00.20.45 # Bagder: still something fishy going on: $ ../../tools/genlang -o -t=h120:agc:backlight_fade:dircache:hold_button:lcd_bitmap:lcd_non-mono:lcd_flip:lcd_invert:pitchscreen:quickscreen:radio:recording:recording_swcodec:remote:remote_ticking:spdif_power:swcodec:tagcache:tc_ramcache:charging -e=english.lang dansk.lang |grep -c LANG_SET_BOOL_YES 00.20.50 # 192 00.21.26 # amiconn: I remember it behaving well before the shutdown callback was implemented 00.21.28 # yes, that one isn't fixed 00.21.30 # Unrelated, I guess, but I was assuming it was the same thing 00.21.36 # Fair enough 00.22.06 # rasher: please submit a bug report and I'll deal with it soonish 00.22.21 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.22.29 # Bagder: can do 00.22.50 # Bagder: do you need any additional information, or just a reminder that something's up 00.23.08 # just a reminder, that command line you pasted here is fine to include 00.23.15 Part Domonoky 00.25.50 # Bagder: FS#7576 00.25.58 # Ugh, T-storm 00.26.11 # thanks 00.27.30 # What's Coldfire? 00.28.04 # wikipedia it 00.28.33 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldfire 00.28.51 # It's a book or a 68k microprocessor 00.29.15 # huh? 00.29.42 # the link I gave says it's a microprocessor 00.29.48 # I thought 68k was basically dead. 00.30.07 # it's used inside iriver h1x0/h3x0 and iaudio's 00.30.36 # ahh 00.31.07 # dead? no way, even z80 still lives on 00.31.24 # This might be off topic, but is GRC's Shields Up! test reliable? 00.31.37 # it is off topic... 00.31.40 # This is an on-topic channel 00.31.44 # sorry 00.31.54 # * petur polishes the topic 00.32.06 # Maybe not dead but not widely used. 00.32.35 # WGC: you have a big insight into the embedded world? 00.32.37 # amiconn: how does one tell the difference between the "next gen" NiMH or however you call them and the "old" ones? 00.33.03 # I don't touch small devices, I'm afraid about hurting them. 00.33.22 # I only think about PCs. 00.33.26 # WGC: so how can you tell things about their internals like if they're dead or not widely used? 00.33.53 # Among PCs I haven't heard about many PCs using 68k and the z80. 00.34.00 # scorche: You need to check the specifications if you don't know how they're named. It depends on the brand 00.34.03 # Especially since Mac dumped Motorola. 00.34.20 # "Not used on PCs" is pretty different from dead. 00.34.21 # how is it listed in the specs? 00.34.59 # Well, if they explicitly say how much charge remains after several months or even a year, they're 'next gen' 00.35.35 # What happened to that Transmeta Carusoe processor? 00.36.05 # WGC: This is really quite off-topic. Check the topic. 00.36.17 # WGC: and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines while you're at it. 00.36.28 # ...which is in the topic 00.37.07 # amiconn: do you know of a place that carries them and ships to the US? 00.37.15 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.37.23 # I was wondering if they were used in portable devices. 00.37.44 # does the voice work on simulator yet? 00.37.47 # Some examples how they're named: Ansmann "max e", Sanyo "eneloop", Varta "Ready2Use" 00.39.05 # thanks 00.39.42 # They typically have a little less capacity that 'old type' NiMHs 00.39.50 # 2100mAh or 2000mAh are common 00.40.57 # What makes these new NiMHs better? 00.40.59 # well, if they dont discharge after 2 days, it is worth it... 00.40.59 # Also Uniross "Hybrio" 00.41.22 # Llorean: Their self-discharge rate is *significantly* reduced 00.41.36 # Ah, so good for say, television remotes and such? 00.41.48 # For everything, imo 00.42.07 # Like the torchlight that always has empty batteries if you need it... 00.42.20 # I dunno, I'd pick a higher capacity one with a faster self-discharge if I was nearly always going to run a full charge, right? 00.42.50 # Llorean: well, as i said, the "old style" typically get to a point where they discharge after 2 days or less.. 00.43.00 # at least in my archos 00.43.47 Join WGC_ [0] (n=chatzill@nat.pinelink.org) 00.43.55 # Sorry, I read the guidelines. 00.44.04 # I guess I shouldn't be here if I don't need help. 00.44.13 # I don't have anything to say then. 00.44.13 # I can't connect to the website anyways. 00.44.14 Quit WGC (Remote closed the connection) 00.44.15 Nick WGC_ is now known as WGC (n=chatzill@nat.pinelink.org) 00.44.30 # That was odd 00.44.51 Quit ender` (" "Of course, this is not a very secure program... But, we weren't trying to write a security system, just an example for pag) 00.45.09 # So, are targets considered on topic? 00.45.24 # depends ont he question 00.45.41 # k 00.45.51 # If they're from me, they'll be general. 00.46.01 # what do you mean? 00.46.10 # They won't be build specific. 00.47.56 # I hope I didn't offend any of you for making off-topic small talk 00.49.06 # WGC: We have a "community" channel for "people who are fans of Rockbox who want to talk to other fans about non-Rockbox stuff" and similar. 00.49.12 # k 00.49.21 # Well, I'll see you if I need help. 00.49.28 # Bye 00.49.29 # This channel is logged, and people often read the logs to find out what development discussion, etc, has been going on, so on-topic keeps those logs shorter and more to the point. 00.49.39 # Makes sense 00.49.47 Quit WGC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1-2007080401 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007080106]") 00.52.16 # hrm...i am beginning to wonder what has happened with r-t.org/redbreva... 00.52.58 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.54.52 # amiconn: now that you visited backlight.c, any opinion on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6689 ? in short, he says that when using cliplight for main+remote (backlight on when clipping) and no remote is present, backlight stays on for way too long. 00.56.00 # umm, not sure 00.56.18 # Maybe it was caused by the quirks in the backlight on hold implementation 00.56.41 # Depends on whether remote hold is detected when the remote isn't plugged 00.56.52 # * amiconn rarely records, and never used the clipping light 00.57.00 # Not even for testing... 00.57.04 # I'll ask him to test with latest build then... 00.58.16 # recently somebody on TapersSection asked if we couldn't port rockbox to a recorder from edirol. I saw it uses a TI320 (at least I think it does) 00.59.55 # http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=89282.0 has a link to pcb pics 01.00.34 # Well, "we" surely won't port it on demand 01.00.36 Join inmotion [0] (n=tgang@205.243.116.219) 01.00.46 # Someone with that unit and a clue has to do it 01.00.49 # which is what I told them 01.01.14 # anyone ever get stuck looking at a jpg? ipod 5.5. menu, scroll wheel, play/pause, etc nothing gets me back to menu 01.01.46 # Tme recommends the fine manual 01.01.51 # * amiconn even 01.07.06 # do we want a second credits plugin? 01.07.53 Quit ddalton ("I was using BOFHNet IRC version 1.2 by fmillion - get your copy today from http://www.the-bofh.com/bofhnet/irc !") 01.08.03 # eh? 01.08.47 # there was a patch to add scrolling to the credits plugin (FS #6854) but it contained a crash, and the author just made a new one... 01.08.59 # very simple list you can scroll up/down 01.09.36 # That doesn't make sense imho 01.09.40 Join Shishire [0] (n=emperors@209-6-168-161.c3-0.arl-ubr2.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com) 01.10.04 # <[1]robin0800> test 01.10.16 # If we want that, just including CREDITS is enough. Viewable with the text viewer 01.10.30 # true 01.10.37 # <[1]robin0800> *test 01.10.48 # [1]robin0800: please don't 01.11.39 # I'm having an issue with the text viewer on today's build of rockbox. The word wrap just doesn't work. I'm not sure if this is a bug or what not, so... 01.12.02 # Check the options 01.12.41 # I've tried to set it to both on and off, neither activates it 01.12.54 # There's also wide view 01.13.20 # Wide view works, but I'mm trying to use narrow view with word wrap 01.14.12 # <[1]robin0800> robin0800 01.14.16 # Hmm, you're right 01.14.26 # * amiconn wonders what broke it 01.14.37 # I can't remember a viewer related commit 01.15.18 # is there an older build that I can use that would work for text viewer? 01.15.18 # 4 and 5 days ago 01.15.51 # Yeah, the categories stuff. But that only changed the placement of the viewer... 01.16.01 # this http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/plugins/viewer.c?r1=14021&r2=14187 01.16.03 # (and its config files, which are placed wrong btw) 01.16.34 # but now, sleep 01.18.01 # JdGordon bug :( 01.18.22 # right, that should be VIEWERS_DIR 01.19.00 # <[1]robin0800> message test 01.19.12 # Yes, but that earlier fix that broke word wrap was also his 01.19.46 # [1]robin0800: *please* stop that 01.20.15 # <[1]robin0800> me robin0800 01.22.23 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6371.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.24.44 # Looks like you have to make clean if you change apps/plugins/CATEGORIES 01.24.48 # <[1]robin0800> msg receiver y 01.25.10 # rasher: yes 01.25.22 # rasher: and reconfigure 01.25.27 # ouch 01.25.37 # I think 01.25.37 # why is that? 01.25.49 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.25.49 # silly me 01.26.01 # that was when the locations changed 01.26.17 # CATEGORIES should only be used by 'make zip', shouldn't it? 01.26.38 # Btw, I also wonder what that 'test' file is that gets packaged now 01.26.52 # Well, I'm building and running the simulator 01.31.52 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 01.32.02 Quit [1]robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 01.32.36 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.35 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 01.36.42 Join z35 [0] (n=z@adsl-1-24-160.dab.bellsouth.net) 01.38.52 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.38.53 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 01.41.46 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.41.51 Join robin_0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 01.41.59 Quit salty-horse ("Leaving") 01.42.08 Quit robin_0800 (Client Quit) 01.42.26 Join robin_0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 01.43.44 Quit robin_0800 (Client Quit) 01.44.00 Join robin_0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 01.44.42 # who is that robin_0800 that is going in and out 01.45.57 Quit robin_0800 (Client Quit) 01.52.16 Join tranbaer [0] (i=qwm@h38n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 01.52.34 # what's the status on the ipod nano problem? 01.53.40 # tranbaer: There's no solution yet? 01.53.52 # When there's a solution, there'll either be a patch to test, or a commit 01.57.14 # can somebody with an h100 test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7564 - it works fine in the sim 01.57.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.57.45 # petur: Gimme 5 minutes to dig up my h100 and build. 01.57.56 # it's not a patch 01.58.02 # it's a bugreport 01.58.31 # Yeah, but I like building for myself, and it'll take less time to do so than finding my player. ;) 02.03.41 # petur: My H120 works fine 02.04.13 # so deleting dirs gives the busy bar as it should 02.04.48 # It was a file. 02.05.13 # ok 02.05.15 # Let me try a stocked folder 02.05.21 # The file was too small for the bar to even appear 02.05.28 # Alright, large folder with subfolders with files, no problem either 02.05.57 # The delete screen is buggy 02.06.09 # ? 02.06.19 # amiconn: In what way? 02.06.27 # On Player I get a 'no such char' block in the first line, where the path should be displayed 02.07.06 # Well, this bug report concerns a freeze. 02.07.07 # Iirc I also observed that on other targets, but I'm not sure 02.07.09 # Though one I'm not having. 02.07.09 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.07.30 # If it's a wild pointer, it could also cause a freeze depending on the situation 02.07.46 # Any conceivable reason why the pre-7 bootloader and flashed Rockbox on H100 might cause strangeness there? 02.08.01 # Rather, strangeness that wouldn't happen on an 'official' setup 02.08.46 # bootloader is unrelated imho 02.08.50 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.09.00 # petur: But he's running flashed Rockbox. 02.09.08 # And I don't know which form of flashed Rockbox he means 02.09.16 # oh 02.09.43 # I imagine if it's the executes-from-ROM version, the wild pointer might have quite different symptoms. 02.12.41 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 02.22.26 Quit petur ("Zzzzzz") 02.30.32 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435403e9.dyn.optonline.net) 02.31.10 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.28 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 02.42.31 Join tihoc4n [0] (n=Compaq_A@206-163-245-208.swcr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 02.46.42 Part pixelma 02.48.17 Join DMJC [0] (n=james@122-49-150-167.ip.adam.com.au) 02.53.47 Join Ste- [0] (i=53473ebf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-07e23e9d9fbfb42c) 02.56.54 Quit Ste- (Client Quit) 02.57.03 Join harmattan [0] (n=harmatta@82.159.58.8.dyn.user.ono.com) 03.08.39 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.10.32 # Llorean: have you ever seen how handhelds.org "grades" their ports? 03.10.51 # I find it very interesting. http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH4100 is an example of one grade card 03.10.58 # Soap: Nope. I've only really looked at one port, that got abandoned before reaching a stage I'd use it. 03.11.04 # do you see any value in such a system for Rockbox ports? 03.11.56 # If we could come up with a standard report card for them, yeah 03.13.13 Quit Shishire () 03.13.57 # They never got sound working on my handheld, and I kinda wanted it. =/ 03.14.34 # It also required a serial cable to install, and I didn't really see it as worth purchasing anything since it was more a "do it for the sake of doing it" in that gadget's case 03.17.50 Part tihoc4n 03.19.31 # how about the palm tx even tho there is a linux port 03.21.33 # how would we know? 03.21.53 # http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTX 03.22.07 # the point being, it is offtopic... 03.22.08 Join Che [0] (n=Che@68.160.252.125) 03.23.08 # i know but someone said something about an hp ipaq 03.23.13 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 03.23.32 # advcomp2019: It's the report cards handhelds.org uses to rate their ports. 03.24.04 # Soap: I think a standardize report card would do users good, especially for "unreleased" ports if we start doing releases 03.24.30 # Llorean: well, it is better than the "throw out a number" way of doing it currently 03.24.32 # Don't we have these already (the FooPort pages generally include status) 03.24.43 # see above 03.25.12 # rasher: Yeah, but it's always unclear. 03.25.13 # I don't see how it's better. It just gives a better idea of how close a feature is, rather than being binary 03.25.21 # For example "What does power management 10% mean?" 03.25.30 # I'd like some form of user-understandable grade. 03.25.50 # For example, if charging is safe, and battery life is equivalent to the retail firmware, then power management gets a check, even if it's not optimal yet. 03.25.51 # A-F is much simpler than % 03.26.03 # Basically "It works for users" or "It doesn't work for users" independent of the actual code state. 03.26.20 # As well, grouping the grades on one page, with a link to their report card... maybe as part of the Buyers Guide setup 03.26.28 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 03.26.52 Quit harmattan ("Saliendo") 03.29.08 # (sorry - new dog piddled) 03.30.21 # but I have been thinking about it for a couple of days, and I'm probably not qualified to define D and C, maybe not even B, but have some ideas for the higher grades. 03.31.20 # I think "A" should include "Duplicates all the functionality of the original firmware" 03.31.36 # Soap: you havent gotten that thing under control yet? 03.31.38 # Which means only Archoses and the H100 for the moment, though. 03.31.54 # * Llorean wanders off briefly 03.31.56 # scorche: he's 5 and stubborn 03.32.09 # * scorche shakes his head 03.35.14 Join webguest75 [0] (i=530dd7d2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-486cda6b014396ef) 03.35.54 # Hi all. I am having problems with my nano. aborting dat and stuff all the time. Wich old build schould i use to make it work? 03.39.28 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@016-034-603.area7.spcsdns.net) 03.39.45 # hello 03.40.29 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.2.6-cvs") 03.45.51 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.52.57 # webguest75, july 26 is a date i've heard works. no guarantees. 03.54.50 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@016-034-603.area7.spcsdns.net) 03.54.54 # hello 03.56.04 # hello 03.56.09 # hello Staticnat 03.56.10 # ppl 03.56.20 # where can i find older build versions 03.56.22 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.56.39 # webguest75, current builds. there's a link to the archived builds. 03.56.40 # i am looking for one for nano from 2007.07.02 03.56.57 # Any build older than those on the archived builds page has to be compiled yourself 03.56.58 # but ther isnt so old one 03.57.27 # isnt there a opkace where i can get it>? 03.57.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.32 # place 03.57.44 # No. 03.57.52 # At least, not that we know of. 03.58.04 # nice 03.58.31 Quit Che () 03.58.33 # Well, keeping every build ever would take a lot of space. 03.58.37 # We keep them for one month 03.59.02 # ok but what i see now is that ipod works fine with different one 03.59.23 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@016-034-603.area7.spcsdns.net) 04.00.33 # i hope that lastfm pugin works 04.02.19 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.02.38 # hello Staticnat 04.02.48 # is the black bar in the menu hard coded? 04.02.52 # or can that get edited? 04.02.58 # tryiing to make a theme 04.03.35 # which black bar 04.04.46 # highlighted menu items 04.05.15 # isn't there a .wps editor? 04.05.27 Quit webguest75 ("CGI:IRC") 04.06.50 # DMJC, yeah, any text editor 04.06.57 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.07.03 # k 04.10.30 # Llorean: wouldn't the Zhiggabeat get an A? 04.11.02 # you can't switch between landscape mode and back on the fly 04.11.13 # the original firmware can (from the 2 minutes i've used it) 04.11.20 # dang 04.11.37 # there's a patch to go landscape, but it's at boot time 04.11.48 # so it's not /quite/ the same 04.12.15 # I, personally, would put "esoteric" original firmware into the A+ catagory, not A, but then that gets subjective. 04.12.47 # *original firmware _features_ 04.13.54 Nick andrew__ is now known as andrewg867 (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162082008.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 04.14.23 # with sartoga's WMA work, that is a large step towards "everything original firmwares can do." Plus it has the added benifit of allowing Rockbox to say "file doesn't work - blame the DRM" 04.14.48 Quit andrewg867 ("leaving") 04.14.52 Join andrew__ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162082008.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 04.15.25 Nick andrew__ is now known as andrewg867 (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162082008.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 04.17.31 # a+ would be a good distinction, and would allow players to still get the A rating 04.17.46 # i feel like giving a lot of B and C ratings would scare away prospective users 04.18.02 # ie, "oh, this seems to do poorly. maybe i shouldn't switch" 04.18.36 Join RoC_MM [0] (n=Samus0@c-24-129-41-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.19.48 # can you edit the rockbox top level menu? 04.20.19 # the files/database/resume playback/settings/recording/playlists/plugins/system screen 04.21.55 # it's in the source code, so...yes 04.22.17 # perhaps that's not what you meant thought 04.28.36 # DMJC, from a wps, the most you can do is specify fonts and colors 04.28.53 # where do you do that in the wps? 04.29.01 # that's the main thing I want to do atm 04.29.14 # but yeah themeability of the menu would be nice to have 04.30.01 # well, it's not in the wps folder 04.31.13 # it's uh 04.31.44 # a .cfg file named the same as your wps, placed in the themes folder in .rockbox 04.31.48 Join ldarby [0] (n=ldarby_N@cpc5-cmbg4-0-0-cust892.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 04.32.14 # hmm 04.33.21 Part ldarby 04.45.42 Join ldarby [0] (n=ldarby_N@cpc5-cmbg4-0-0-cust892.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 04.46.44 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 04.51.33 # how is everyone? 04.57.10 Join ville [0] (n=ville@dsl-hkigw8-feb3de00-227.dhcp.inet.fi) 05.01.38 Join TinoM| [0] (n=Tino@i5387CFAD.versanet.de) 05.09.01 Join LinkinXp [0] (n=LiK@c-76-101-152-182.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.09.02 # hey! 05.09.04 # hello 05.09.13 # can i ask here questions of Cell Phones? 05.09.18 # no 05.09.21 # about cell's 05.09.25 # ok 05.10.21 Join Wofl [0] (n=nils@ip68-97-21-133.ok.ok.cox.net) 05.14.35 # who made the h100 bootloader that you flash, so its just rockbox 05.15.41 Quit Wofl ("Konversation terminated!") 05.15.59 Join Wofl [0] (n=nils@ip68-97-21-133.ok.ok.cox.net) 05.17.30 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 05.18.43 Quit TinoM (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.20.30 # can some one tell me what setting i have to change to stop the backlight from being turned off when i start doom? 05.24.22 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 05.25.26 # stop using an UNSUPPORTED build 05.25.42 # or read the thread you got the build from. It is answered in the thread - I know this for a fact. 05.25.57 # ;) 05.26.27 # but don't break the social contract by using a clearly marked unsupported build, and then seeking out official support. 05.26.58 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.27.03 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@016-034-603.area7.spcsdns.net) 05.28.37 # the Fusion sim from EvilG from the themes page is unsupported? 05.28.49 # link? 05.28.59 # http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=320x240x16 05.29.29 # are we talking a simulator, or a build on your iPod? 05.29.52 # its a build i belive 05.30.17 # that's not even a Rockbox official site 05.30.32 # i got linked there from the official site 05.30.36 # kk then 05.30.47 # and the pedantic person in me, rasher, wants to make clear there is no such thing as "Led Zeppelin IV" 05.33.08 # in an alternative universe 05.35.05 # oops, that's not rasher's site. Sorry for highlighting you rasher 05.35.42 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.36.16 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@016-034-603.area7.spcsdns.net) 05.39.17 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.50.39 # Just installed rockbox on Sansa e270, pretty slick. 05.54.47 # there its no usbotg support on the h3x0 right? 05.55.41 # what os are you using on the computer you load files from ville 05.57.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.59.52 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.26.19 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.32.05 # Soap: The Gigabeat has a USB host mode with the dock, I believe. 06.38.13 Quit inmotion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.43.01 # Llorean: When evaluating which port duplicates all the functionality of the original firmwate, you forgot the M5 06.44.53 Quit Wofl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.46.07 # amiconn: Ah, so I did. The M5 is "complete"? 06.46.17 # yes 06.46.18 # I must admit I don't know on what line it differs from the X5 06.46.37 # It's very similar to the difference between H1x0 and H300 06.46.59 # Just that the M5 is even more similar to the X5 hardware wise. 06.47.19 # The M5 is an X5 without USBOTG, radio, and serial number chip 06.47.30 # Ah, okay 06.47.41 # So complete targets are the archoses, M5, and H100? 06.47.49 # yes, afaik 06.47.57 # Thanks 06.48.16 # The X5 is lacking USBOTH the same way as the H300 06.49.04 # And all the PP targets lack usb (and/or firewire) support 06.49.18 # Don't know about the gigabeat though 06.50.32 # hey if somebody could look at adding 5937 patch to the svn, it would fix the iamp errors on the h1x0. also if it is add, could somebody make the change in .wps file. the change would be changing all of the "88"'s to an "87" giving it one line space between the file icons and the progress bar. 06.50.44 # amiconn: The Gigabeat is lacking USB Host, and apparently the Portrait/Landscape switch if that qualifies. 06.51.05 # And I wouldn't consider the PP "complete" until battery life is right, but that's me personally. 06.51.43 # Didn't know that the gigabeat had usb host 06.53.17 Quit ddalton (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.53.29 # amiconn: AFAIK, it's only when connected to the dock (in the retail firmware) and just copies the files off say... a camera. 06.53.52 # But as I've not used it, this is only based on my inquiries when they were talking about making a USB host adapter for it in #Gigabeat 07.03.10 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 07.05.55 # wasn't someone from GSOC working on a usb host that was compatible w/ the gigabeat? 07.08.46 # ptw419: Working on USB for the Sansa 07.08.53 # Host can be added on to it though 07.09.02 # It's a USB stack in general, but his test device is a sansa, rather 07.09.28 # usb stack for pp(?)...h10s etc? 07.09.30 # ah. aliask was stating it was based off the imx31 or something like that...but i'm not sure about specifics 07.13.28 # rrrrr 07.14.00 # ugh...this is aggravating me to no end... 07.14.11 # i still can't figure out why the cpu isn't acknowledging interrupts... 07.15.24 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.22.30 Part Overand 07.51.48 # Hmm. Voice building on linux works, but there's a significant flaw. 07.52.04 # I can't select multiple languages and/or voices to build per target 07.52.14 # I need one build dir for every combination 07.52.26 # * amiconn would like to build english and german voices in one go 07.54.06 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 07.56.36 Part Llorean 07.57.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.59.06 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 07.59.07 Quit tranbaer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.28.31 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B166DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.29.29 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.34.42 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.34.52 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 08.41.47 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-64-200-241.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.43.36 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.45.14 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF650C.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.45.56 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.47.27 Join TiMiD[FD] [0] (n=TiMiD[FD@ARennes-258-1-87-95.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.47.34 # hey 08.47.39 # there is another web 08.47.41 # for plugins 08.47.44 # and themes? 08.47.50 # for rockbox 08.48.48 # what players don't have a rtc 08.50.56 # h1x0 series, ummmm dont know any other off the top of my head 08.52.02 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.54.27 # the Ondios also don't have an RTC 08.54.32 # Archos Player, Ondio FM and SP, Iriver H1x0 series, iPod 1st/2nd gen 08.54.38 # i like this rockbox 08.54.39 # :D 08.55.43 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 08.56.25 Quit krazykit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.58.54 # ok thanks 09.05.37 # ddalton: do you want to know that for your code? 09.07.24 # pixelma : I wrote a patch (p7561) and a friend wanted me to make the time spoken before the disk free info. but if I put the disk free info code in the rtc if then if the player doesn't have an rtc it won't say the disk free space. 09.07.43 # hopefully you can see what I am saying here 09.09.32 # No 09.09.53 # Of course you have to exclude the time announcement code for non-rtc targets, like it is now 09.10.17 # anyway i will just leave it as it is. just see p7561 for details. 09.10.22 # And you don't need to know which these are, just check the appropriate macro 09.12.08 # I know but I was just wondering. 09.14.33 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 09.14.42 Quit LinkinXp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.16.40 # does anyone have any idea how to get the quick screen to voice? 09.17.10 # I have a couple but was wondering if anyone else knew about this 09.20.16 Quit ptw419 () 09.25.42 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 09.28.49 # can someone sighted go into the quick screen and tell me what the options are and how they are layed out? I am blind so can't do this. 09.32.52 # how long does it take to build a voice file on linux. It has only done 90 clips on cygwin after 10 minutes. 09.33.01 # which is slow 09.33.26 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 09.34.27 Quit ddalton ("I was using BOFHNet IRC version 1.2 by fmillion - get your copy today from http://www.the-bofh.com/bofhnet/irc !") 09.34.33 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.36.22 # ddalton: the layout of the quick screen is left=shuffle (off, on), right=repeat (all,one,shuffle,off) down=show files (supported, music, playlists, all) 09.36.52 # * amiconn wouldn't bother voicing the quickscreen 09.37.08 # It doesn't offer any option that isn't available via the menus 09.37.25 # And since button actions, it's more a not-so-quickscreen 09.37.38 # it is quicker, though, remember how discmans had a shuffle button? 09.38.08 # but maybe I just don't know what button actions are... 09.38.43 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.38.48 # Before that, it was possible to use the quickscreen in a real quick way (on targets where multiple button presses can be detected at once) 09.38.58 # hcs: so is there 3 options in the quick screen? what if you press up? 09.39.13 # ddalton: nothing happens 09.39.13 # ddalton: the cygwin voice building is insanely slow at the moment, linux is a lot faster 09.39.54 # Just press the quickscreen button *and hold it*. Then press the appropriate option selection button (Left/Down/Right) one or more times. Releasing the quickscreen button left it instantly 09.39.54 # hcs: so is there 3 options in the quick screen you can change? 09.40.04 # ddalton: yes 09.40.35 # amiconn: I am blind so can't do that 09.40.53 # The current way (press quickscreen button, select option(s), press again to leave) was also possible - just that it was possible to leave it with the same button you entered 09.40.59 # Even that doesn't work now 09.41.21 # hey will a machine running linux with 128 mb ram 10 gb hard drive and 633 mhz cpu build rockbox and be fine for programming? 09.41.30 # ddalton: hmm, actually it seems that up also toggles the show files setting (which is also toggled with the down button) 09.42.09 # hcs: Yes, Up == Down in the quickscreens 09.42.36 # ddalton: i'm sure it will 09.42.38 # hadn't known, learning something new daily 09.42.40 # my voice is still building. taking for ever. Maybe I should just move to linux 09.43.05 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 09.43.06 # LinusN: what type of machine are you using? 09.44.04 Quit ville (" ") 09.45.52 # P4 3.4MHz, 1gig RAM, 1TB disk :-) 09.46.16 # sorry 2GB RAM 09.46.37 # do you mean 3.4 ghz? 09.46.42 # of course 09.46.47 # and how does this go with compiling 09.46.54 # like lightning 09.46.55 # hehe 09.47.08 # How long would it take you to build rockbox? 09.49.57 # finally my voice file is done 09.51.19 # Voice building being slow on windows isn't a cygwin problem this time 09.51.40 # It's due to how the sapi engine is integrated into the voice build system 09.52.03 # With the old script I was able to build a sapi5 voice in less than a minute 09.52.34 # But the current script loads/unloads the sapi engine for every single clip 09.52.38 # ddalton: well, not exactly like lightning, but building an entire h100 rockbox took 1:30 without ccache and 30 seconds without 09.53.09 # wit30 seconds *with* ccache 09.53.22 # what's with my typing today? 09.54.56 # bad influence of DerPapst's typo classes ;) 09.56.44 # :-) 09.57.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.57.37 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@h460b0644.area7.spcsdns.net) 09.58.24 # I just realised that p7525 is wrong. It will only work for players with rtc. So can someone tell me where the code should go? 09.58.33 # whats up yall 09.59.00 # Doesn't really matter because my player has a rtc and noone else is interested in it I think. 09.59.21 # is it possible to spell variables? 10.00.12 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.09.54 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@79.187.93.186) 10.14.06 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.22.59 Join kretender [0] (n=kaspar@212.65.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 10.26.32 # LinusN do you know about the voice interface? 10.33.30 Quit ldarby (Remote closed the connection) 10.33.55 Join ldarby [0] (n=ldarby_N@cpc5-cmbg4-0-0-cust892.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 10.35.44 Quit kretender ("Leaving.") 10.43.13 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.49.01 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 10.54.47 # n1s: I found a comment on line 10434 in english.lang - is it still valid or could it be removed? 10.55.42 Join staitc [0] (n=staticna@016-013-361.area7.spcsdns.net) 10.57.53 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 11.10.49 # Could someone help me out here with some fm radio code? 11.11.55 # your a brave man if oyu want to fiddle in that code 11.12.16 # and sth. entirely different: would anybody object if I committed a imo fix to the snap font that makes the numbers 1 and 7 the same width as the others? I mean, especially the 1 looks different to what there is now but this way a line that show the current playing time doesn't jump around anymore... 11.12.21 # JdGordon: Why? 11.12.41 # pixelma: tere are a few font patches if you feel like commiting them 11.13.55 # pixelma: 5028 especially... 11.14.53 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 11.17.03 # hmm.. just found them - and there is an old one (2918) that does what I did for snap for some other fonts (though he only made them wider, whereas I changed the 7 a bit more in positioning - and he also included the abandoned chicage-font and didn't state his real name) 11.17.51 # *chicago 11.20.42 # JdGordon: thanks for the pointer, will look closer into it but for now I would just like to commit my "snap" version 11.21.57 # the only complaints you'll get are post-commit from wps people who's screens dont look lkike they used to.... so go for it :D 11.22.52 # :) well, I like it better than a line that changes its length all the time 11.23.48 # noticable: 1 had a width of 4 pixels, the majority of the others have a width of 7 pixels... 11.27.19 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host163-158-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.27.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp265-240.adsl.forthnet.gr) 11.30.07 # pixelma: that could be removed 11.31.43 # n1s: just committed something tiny, now it's your turn ;) 11.36.59 Quit staitc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.40.57 Join Staticnat [0] (n=staticna@016-013-361.area7.spcsdns.net) 11.42.29 Join Taos [0] (n=none@71.30.160.94) 11.42.30 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 11.45.36 # First off, I just want to say that Rockbox is an amazing firmware and I love it to death. I've had it for a few days now and it's great! I just want to know, is there is anyway to sort my music by the file creation date? 11.47.13 # Settings->General Settings->File View->Sort Files does what you want? 11.51.31 Join the_legend [0] (n=james_is@58.175.81.47) 11.51.42 # Well, that'll work just fine. Though it seems that I'll finally have to get rid of the iTunes firmware and just load all my music into a plain file. 11.53.52 # thats a bad thing? 11.54.35 Join davina [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.57.00 # maybe you can find something in the tagnavi_custom function but I don't know... the DataBase wiki page might tell 11.57.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.59.04 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 11.59.17 # JdGordon: No, it's not. It's just more waiting before I can start getting my nightly music fix. 11.59.59 # pixelma: Doesn't look like there's a supported tag for file time. 12.00.33 Quit the_legend ("Freedom Chat - Your Home Away From Home | http://www.freedomchat.org | tIRC script by the Freedom Chat Leets") 12.02.08 # JdGordon: Does the settings system allow to have an integer setting with a dynamic range? 12.02.09 Quit rasher (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.02.25 # (precisely a settings where the maximum depends on another setting) 12.04.40 # Maybe I'll implement this in a different way though 12.08.16 Part Taos 12.10.39 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e180232222.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.17.48 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@89-125-27-101.dhcp-ripwave.irishbroadband.ie) 12.18.39 # amiconn: not entirely sure what you mean, but I dont think so 12.19.05 # if its important it can probably be added realtivly easily 12.19.37 # It's not that important, as it might be confusing 12.19.47 # My other idea isn't as flexible though 12.19.53 # ...but probably sufficient 12.20.34 # do you mean a value between some min and the current value of another setting? 12.21.12 # Yes, or more precisely between min and (current_value_of_other_setting - 1) 12.21.16 Quit ddalton ("I was using BOFHNet IRC version 1.2 by fmillion - get your copy today from http://www.the-bofh.com/bofhnet/irc !") 12.21.22 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.21.36 # well, codewise thats failry easy to do, but sounds like it could confuse users 12.21.43 Quit ddalton (Client Quit) 12.21.46 # yes 12.21.53 # what you want it for? 12.22.02 # It's for my reduced backlight idea 12.22.12 # ...on targets which can set backlight brightness 12.22.19 # (e.g. H300 and X5) 12.22.51 # The reduced brightness should of course not be higher than the normal brightness (cause then it wouldn't be reduced ;)) 12.23.07 # ah 12.23.15 # But I'll probably just offer 3 settings: Off, Minimum, and 1/2 12.24.01 # no, allow the full brightness levels.. not just 3 settings 12.24.28 # And how do I make sure that reduced < normal? 12.24.30 # but just check the dimmer value is lower than max when changing levels 12.24.44 # if it is greater then just ignroe the setting 12.24.46 # And what to do then if it's not? 12.24.51 # hmm.... 12.24.57 # That might also be confusing... 12.25.13 # or.... in the setting callback you can check the values and show a splash if its heigher 12.25.33 # umm... I tihnk you can actually set a min/max dynamically 12.26.08 Join wippeout [0] (n=wippeout@unaffiliated/wippeout) 12.26.10 # hello 12.26.20 # someone with zen vision M here ? 12.26.42 # hmm... you could use the text callback and show "heigher than normal brightness"...? 12.26.52 # wippeout: is there something specific you were trying to get at? 12.27.58 # yes, i'm trying to use it under ubuntu :) 12.28.11 # wippeout: what does that have to do with rockbox? 12.28.21 # nothing :) 12.28.34 # please read the guidelines linked in the topic 12.28.44 # sorry, i don't see the topic 12.29.27 # Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines 12.30.29 # ok 12.30.31 Part wippeout 12.36.13 # * amiconn is puzzled that the mini G2 voice file differs in size from the mini G1 voice file 12.36.22 Quit barrywardell () 12.38.10 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@89-125-27-101.dhcp-ripwave.irishbroadband.ie) 12.40.45 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 12.40.53 # amiconn: check apps/features after building 12.42.01 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.42.02 Join PKdoR [0] (n=PKdoR@adsl-69-234-158-81.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 12.42.17 # whats up dudes?? 12.42.30 # does rockbox use arrays and pointers? 12.42.33 Quit Sodaholic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.42.37 # ddalton: of course 12.42.49 # ok and what about printf? 12.42.49 # PKdoR: word 12.42.57 # ddalton: also 12.42.59 # markun: haha... 12.43.05 # is rock box compatible with a 2g ipod nano 2gb? 12.43.14 # no 12.43.17 # no 12.43.17 # ddalton: we have sprintf, not printf 12.43.22 # damn!!! 12.43.28 # nither is linx 12.43.45 # PKdoR: you can see a list of supported devices on our front page 12.44.00 # Is there anything modable on the g2 nano 2gb? 12.44.11 # amiconn: mini1g doesn't have backlight_fade 12.44.22 # ah 12.44.25 # PKdoR: this channel is about rockbox...not "modding your ipod" 12.44.41 # ok sorry 12.44.42 # Well, it should work on mini G1, but someone has to test it 12.44.52 # PKdoR: if someone figures out how to mod it it would also help to make a rockbox port 12.45.07 # LinusN what is the difference. I don't know as you probably know I am just learning the language. 12.45.10 # ok thanks 12.45.15 Quit PKdoR (Client Quit) 12.45.34 # ddalton: printf outputs to the screen, sprintf puts the result in a string 12.45.48 # We don't have sprintf, only snprintf 12.45.51 # LinusN then how do you display it? 12.47.07 # LinusN how do you display that string? 12.47.29 # ddalton: using the lcd API 12.47.47 # there are manu ways to display a string depending on how and where you want it 12.48.05 # amiconn: ah, of course 12.48.10 # LinusN a menu option how would you do that? 12.48.22 # ddalton: ask JdGordon :-) 12.48.47 # JdGordon: can you answer my question? 12.49.01 # what question? 12.49.22 # ddalton: there's already a patch for a talking quick screen http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6171 12.49.27 # If you use snprintf how do you display the string? 12.50.05 # Yeah but it is way out of date and his last one doesn't actually read the options from the quick screen. 12.50.49 # ddalton: where do you want to show the string? 12.51.00 # Menu option 12.51.11 # And splash screen 12.51.44 # for the splash you do gui_syncsplash(, string); 12.51.52 # for menu, do you want it as a setting? 12.52.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingTheMenuAPI#MENUITEM_SETTING_W_TEXT or http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingTheMenuAPI#MENUITEM_FUNCTION_DYNTEXT for the menu 12.52.42 # Well I am just reading my c book so trying to get as much info as possible but maybe on the main menu or as a setting 12.53.25 # is gui_syncsplash a rockbox function? 12.53.38 # yes 12.54.07 # so you can't use it in other programs like from the book? 12.54.20 # exactly 12.54.47 # LinusN how does it work just out of quriosity? 12.54.51 Quit barrywardell () 12.55.46 # ddalton: what do you mean? 12.55.58 Quit Staticnat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.56.16 # LinusN what code has been put in the function how does it know how to display stuff? 12.56.19 # ddalton: apps/gui/splash.c shows how it works 12.56.26 # ok 12.56.41 # or more specifically... you want lcd_puts() to put text at an arbitrary position on the lcd 12.56.56 Join KerNe1 [0] (n=dj@adsl-dyn37.91-127-135.t-com.sk) 12.57.29 # LinusN one more question: How do the talk functions work. for example talk_id(string_to_voice, true); what is the true for? 12.59.01 # So for example would you need to use pointers to get the location of a file or not? 12.59.59 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@89-125-27-101.dhcp-ripwave.irishbroadband.ie) 13.00.13 # ddalton: you really need to read the source code/ comments for the particualr functions your asking about, you'll nevere learn if you keep asking 13.02.48 # ddalton: the second argument to talk_id controls if the clip is to interrupt a currently playing one or not 13.03.18 # true == enqueue 13.04.00 # LinusN thanks for that I have always wanted to know that. And one more question how do you talk gui_syncsplash screens? can you just talk_id above the gui_syncsplash function call? 13.04.12 # why is that? 13.11.44 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.17.26 Quit barrywardell () 13.20.08 # I know this question isn't directly related to rockbox but can switch only be used on variables of type int? Also how does the indentation work for the switch statement? 13.21.11 # switch can be used on anything integer-valued, not just the "int" type, the indentation is irrelevant 13.21.32 # ok but in rockbox how much do I indent each case 13.21.45 # for example case 3 13.21.50 # Is there any reason to leave this open? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7580 13.21.51 # hey Nico_P, im about to head out, but have a guess at what im bloody fighting with at work 13.22.08 # JdGordon: memory management ? 13.22.16 # bloody ring buffers :'( 13.22.22 # hehe :) 13.22.32 # ddalton: when you indent, always use 4 spaces, but we don't care exactly how you indent the switch blocks 13.22.35 # yeah, and its not working :'( 13.22.38 # anyway... 13.22.39 # * JdGordon gone 13.23.56 # LinusN so if case 1 is lined up with case 0 would that be fine? Like if case 0 was 8 spaces in could case 1 be 8 spaces in? 13.26.59 # ;) 13.32.16 # ddalton: I've seen 3 different ways to indent switch statements 13.32.43 # (1) Indent the cases by 4 spaces, and what's executed int that case by another 4 spaces 13.33.08 # (2) Put the cases at the same indentation level, and only indent the statements 13.33.39 # (3) Do something inbetween and indent the cases by 2 spaces, the statements by 4 like normal (i.e. another 2 relative to the cases) 13.33.54 Part pixelma 13.35.39 # ddalton: on your question how to voice a gui_syncsplash() jus do as it is done in many places in rockbox already (introduced by the talking-splashes patch) just pass a "virtual pointer" to the string using the ID2P() macro instead of the usual str() macro and the function takes care of the rest. 13.37.33 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.38.24 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host208-202-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.38.45 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 13.41.03 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 13.45.31 # I have a time thing that voices the time in 12 hour format or 24. So can I do this in a switch statement? if(x==10) {code} 13.46.10 # ddalton: yes 13.46.20 # how? 13.46.35 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@wardell.ucd.ie) 13.47.16 # ddalton: that sort-of depends on what you want to do but you should probably just put it inside a case, although I'm not sure what your'e trying to do... 13.48.14 # so switch(x) case 1: code case 2: code case 3: code and so on up to 24? 13.48.39 # ddalton: dont forget the break; at the end of every switch 13.48.46 # äh case 13.48.50 # Or would if and else if and else be better for this? 13.48.53 # ddalton: that could work, yes, and what domonoky said :-) 13.49.10 # what is h case? 13.49.11 # ddalton: as I said that depends on what you want to do 13.50.46 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.50.50 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp98-196.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.50.53 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.50.56 # ddalton: if you want do the same thing for several values of x then an if-else thingy is probably better 13.50.59 # ddalton: like this : http://pastebin.ca/653420 13.51.04 Part KerNe1 13.51.17 # something different up to 24 but my statements look a bit like this. if(hour <12) {talk_id(LANG_AM, true); } else if (hour >12) {talk_id(LANG_PM, true); } else if(some thing else) and so on 13.51.23 # thanks I will look at that. 13.53.55 # Domonoky: so if x is equal to 19 the default action would be taken? 13.54.12 # ddalton: yes 13.54.41 # if no case matches the default is used.. so you should include a default case in every switch :-) 13.54.46 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 13.55.23 # ok it seems like an if is best to me. But someone said a couple of days a go I should learn to use switch. Anyway could someone have a look at my patch I will put up in a few minutes if it works? 13.57.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.58.22 # can you use break; in an if? 13.58.58 # no 13.59.17 # unless it's in a switch or loop 13.59.30 # you can only break out of while, do while, for and switch. 13.59.41 # n1s: of course :) 13.59.53 # so as soon as one condition is met the if finnishes? 14.00.20 # what do you mean by "the if finnishes"? 14.00.52 # if you have a bunch of if() else if() else if() else statements it only executes the code inside the first matching if 14.02.52 # I don't know if it will work but can someone have a look at http://pastebin.ca/raw/653425 14.03.09 # And can you tell me if the indentation is wrong or not? 14.04.48 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 14.05.40 # ddalton: this fixes the indentation: http://pastebin.ca/raw/653426 (you still need to indent the 2 lines in the if at the end of the patch) 14.06.30 # and the switch statement for 2 cases looks a bit overkill. I'd use an if(tm->tm_minute == 0) ... else ... 14.07.11 # was that all that was wrong? 14.07.46 # lots of extra spaces before some of the closing }. 14.07.57 # missing indentation for the switch statement 14.08.18 # how does indentation work for the switch? 14.08.33 # ddalton: codewise it looks like it could work :-) 14.09.02 # depends. some people indent the case line and then reindent after it. Other people don't indent the case the line but still indent after it. 14.09.42 # but I guess that you could just submit a patch with messed up indentation if it's too much of a hassle for you to fix it. 14.10.33 # no it doesn 14.10.46 # no it doesn't work. I will do the if else thing 14.10.54 # ddalton: also in the if-else statement that decides if to speak AM or PM you could use if (tm->tm_hour =>12){talk_id(VOICE_PM, true);} to get rid of one else if 14.10.56 # it wouldn't compile 14.11.33 # ddalton: if it doesnt compile, give us the exact error.. :-) 14.11.49 # bbl 14.12.49 Quit tumu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.12.50 # ok well my screen reader can't read it because it isn't on the screen. Can you get cygwin to write to a text file so I can view the whole compile process? 14.14.16 # think I worked it out I used the wrong variable name let me just test 14.21.16 # JdGordon: any Idea why voiceing of the new plugins categories doesn't work? also the title line when inside each category displays the name of the directory... 14.29.28 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 14.33.45 Join robin_0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 14.33.57 # can someone have a look at my patch and tell me if the indentation is right? also what else is wrong with it. Is this any better? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.56.03 Quit thegeek () 17.11.22 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 17.16.14 Join tihoc41 [0] (n=Compaq_A@206-163-245-208.swcr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 17.16.28 Quit tihoc41 ("Leaving.") 17.17.20 Join webguest23 [0] (i=46101058@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8052a06cdb74e244) 17.21.16 Quit webguest23 (Client Quit) 17.23.27 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-226-131.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 17.26.21 # Bagder: I think someone in the forum thread said that the German language worked now 17.26.32 # great 17.29.32 # Bagder: The statement was simply "It works on my Ondio." which was one of the problem targets, so I think it's good. 17.29.39 # I'll check on my Nano later, when I have the opportunity. 17.35.01 # bbq time! 17.35.50 Quit desowin ("use linux") 17.38.22 # does anyone know why a build fails with an error about creating sysfont.h whenever a file in firmware/SOURCES doesn't exist? 17.39.40 Join midkay__ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.40.27 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 17.40.30 Part LinusN 17.41.02 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 17.41.17 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 17.45.56 Join salty-horse [0] (n=ori@pdpc/supporter/active/salty-horse) 17.46.31 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@79.187.93.186) 17.49.57 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.51.20 # anyone happen to have a test plugin for the ipod's dock interface serial port? 17.53.40 # dionoea: i think no one got the serial interface on the ipod to work.. so no test plugin :-) 17.54.00 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 17.54.08 # hum ... ok :) Do you know if the ipodlinux version works ? 17.54.39 # as far as i know ipodlinux has a driver for it, but it doesnt work.. 17.55.34 # ok ... (I was copying bits and pieces of their code trying to make it work in a test plugin for rockbox) 17.56.15 # (and it obviously didn't work as expected ... but I'm not giving up) 17.57.06 # my long term goal is to get the apple remote's FM radio to work in rockbox 17.57.19 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.57.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.58.54 # dionoea: nice.. but first you have to get the serial interface to output some bits.. :-) 17.59.13 # exactly what I was thinking :) 18.00.39 # Domonoky: about the endianness defines, ROCKBOX_LITTLE_ENDIAN is defined for any little-endian target (or sim) rockbox is built for but as llorean said letoh() and betoh() often does the trick 18.01.30 # n1s: i got it working with letoh(), now i need to build a gui for wavsplit, and optimize it a litte.. 18.02.05 # Domonoky: ah, nice, for splitting recordings on the go? 18.02.18 # yes.. 18.02.48 # and btw all those swap macros are defined in firmware/export/system.h 18.02.48 Quit desowin ("use linux") 18.03.07 Quit Ishi`` () 18.03.51 # * Llorean will try to remember that 18.04.28 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@79.187.93.186) 18.06.30 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 18.16.51 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 18.19.54 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.33.34 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 18.35.54 Quit Snake (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.41.58 Join wonderbar [0] (n=mailnot@ppp-70-247-140-188.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) 18.42.44 # Anyone know where I can find and load the foobar2000 plugin for Rockbox on a Sansa e200? 18.44.51 # anyone in here? 18.45.45 # never heard of a Rockbox plugin for FB2K 18.45.57 # I want to be able to shuffle my music with more control over the way it shuffles and I read in a rockbox forum post that there is a foobar2000 plug-in that will do that. I can't find it 18.46.44 # wonderbar: FB2K has a channel here, all you need to do is drag your music into foobar, shuffle it however you want, and save a .m3u playlist. 18.47.20 # stripping out any windows-specific paths from the m3u (like drive letters) 18.47.30 # ic 18.47.47 # would that not result in the list being played the same way over and over again? 18.48.16 # it would 18.48.28 # unless you "insert shuffled" the .m3u 18.49.15 # Here is what I am trying to do. I would like for the shuffle on the rockbox to not repeat songs from the same artist for a specified period of time 18.49.23 # is there a way to configure that? 18.50.22 # I have a lot of Steeley Dan and a lot of Day's of The New for example. when rockbox shuffles I wind up listening to more of one artist than I want 18.50.46 # Days Daze Days - whatever 18.51.34 # no, there is not currently an analogue to iTunes' "Smart Playlists" 18.52.04 # ic - do you happen to know if anyone is developing that? 18.52.27 # so you could create a static playlist on foobar which follows all the rules you lay out - then use that playlist on Rockbox, but it wouldnt' dynamicly change everytime you loaded it in Rockbox. 18.52.55 # I don't know if anyone is working on that - I'm the worst person to ask as I'm a "full-album, straight-through" only kinda guy. 18.53.20 # Yes thank you for that info, it seems to be as good of a workaround as I will get for the moment 18.54.02 # Yeah I like to do that as well, but I usually use my cd player for that 18.54.17 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.54.17 # I like to listen to random mp3's when I am sailng 18.54.40 # I often find that I don't want to listen to the same artist over and over again 18.54.55 # maybe creating several playlists l;ike you suggested woyld do it 18.55.26 Join MySic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 18.55.51 # do you know who I might ask about the development of a "smart playist" plugin for rockbox? 18.56.36 # you can post a request in the features request tracker 18.56.49 # there's a link on the website, in the left hand side menu 18.56.56 # thank you 18.57.45 # just make sure you aren't repeating a prior request by a different name. 18.57.47 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 18.59.36 # ok thx 19.01.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp15-162.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.01.40 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@218.63.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 19.01.45 # is the fb2k channel called FB2K? for some reason my client isn't listing channels 19.05.05 Quit daugustine ("Leaving") 19.07.51 # wonderbar: #foobar2000 19.08.14 # thx 19.08.18 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 19.08.54 Quit wonderbar () 19.11.07 Quit XavierGr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.14.28 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.24.23 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.27.48 # any sansa users around? 19.29.34 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.30.24 Join Tempis [0] (i=4b418027@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a892c8048b73f57c) 19.30.54 # does anyone know if newmp3technology still repiars archos units? 19.31.40 # I can't seem to find any info on their site 19.33.19 Join Iamnotacrook [0] (n=chatzill@79-64-121-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 19.33.34 Quit Iamnotacrook (Client Quit) 19.38.25 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 19.39.04 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.40.01 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@85.69.166.42) 19.40.24 Join webguest28 [0] (i=46101058@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c0636682b9a0c071) 19.42.14 Quit webguest28 (Client Quit) 19.48.19 Part Tempis 19.57.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.00.54 Quit BigMac ("Leaving") 20.04.34 Join alexseif [0] (n=chatzill@84.36.42.98) 20.09.54 Join Spiorf_ [0] (n=Spiorf@ppp-52-58.21-151.libero.it) 20.10.10 Quit Spiorf_ (Client Quit) 20.10.55 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 20.12.00 Part alexseif 20.14.57 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=Mouser_X@67.110.120.36.ptr.us.xo.net) 20.15.33 # Any suggestions on how I can connect to my Gigabeat under Win98? That's the OS my (free) laptop uses. 20.16.06 # I plugged in my Gigabeat, and Win98 recognizes it as a a Toshiba device, but it can't find drivers for it. 20.16.20 # what type of gigabeat? 20.18.12 # F40 20.18.23 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-250-211.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 20.19.44 # with rockbox ? 20.19.59 # (I'm also attempting to get my 300 GB NTFS drive recognized by Win98... I've found stuff that can read NTFS drives, but I have no idea if those will work on a drive of that size, under Win98. My main PC's internal power supply failed, so I'm using my laptop until I get a replacement power supply.) 20.20.11 # Yes, of course running Rockbox. 20.20.12 # you need a usb mass storage driver under win98, there is none include 20.20.34 # Hmmm. 20.20.46 # there is no driver for ntfs on win98 I think 20.20.58 # There is, actually. 20.21.04 # I've found 3 different ones. 20.21.20 # One of them costs money, the other 2 are read-only. 20.21.20 # you have to try it 20.22.07 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.22.25 # I think I have a driver for mass storage devices on a disc here, but it contains more than 1 driver, so I'm not sure which one to install. 20.24.29 # try to find if there is a generic driver for the usb chip of the f40 20.24.36 Quit barrywardell () 20.24.53 # I wouldn't know what to look for... 20.25.18 # CY7C68300B from cypress\ 20.25.34 # have to go talk to you later 20.25.37 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-250-211.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 20.25.41 # Bye, and thanks. 20.28.19 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.30.18 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 20.33.41 Quit barrywardell () 20.35.21 Part n1s 20.52.33 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.53.08 Quit Mouser_X () 20.53.13 Join inmotion [0] (n=tgang@205.243.116.219) 20.54.18 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 20.54.54 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 21.02.06 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 21.03.13 Quit MySic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.03.53 Join webguest70 [0] (i=54b3df5b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f6ac2be1b7874a40) 21.05.28 # Bagder: using the voice string as filename (for POOLing) is problematic if the string contains a slash (which LANG_FM_US did recently) or several other characters if building in windows. What do you say we use `echo $string |md5sum |cut -b-32` instead? 21.09.45 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=Mouser_X@67.110.120.36.ptr.us.xo.net) 21.09.57 # Well, I couldn't find cypress drivers. 21.10.15 # I did however find a Wikipedia article about USB mass storage devices. 21.10.34 # They linked to drivers for Win98, which work for my Gigabeat. 21.11.05 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 21.12.08 # hi there...i have tried to search the bug reports for a specific problem but without success so i come here to ask if it is a known issue before i file a bug report...so here it is: if you have your player plugged in and you are watching a movie, the backlight won't stay on. i have tested this on my h300 with a current build. 21.13.44 # Odd. Watching videos works fine for me. The only time the backlight turns off is when I turn the "HOLD" switch on (which, in the settings, I have it set to turn off the backlight when the "HOLD" switch is on). 21.14.01 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 21.14.07 # Though, I have a Gigabeat, and it's not a current build. 21.14.18 # (My build is a few weeks old.) 21.16.15 # yes for me too but this is a intended behaviour of course... can you test it while your player is plugged in? and maybe decrease the lcd time out (for "while plugged in) first 21.16.48 # Hmmm. Sorry, I had forgotten that part. 21.19.24 # Give me a minute... I'm copying files from my Gigabeat, through a USB 1.0 port... 21.19.38 # (in other words, I still need to disconnect it.) 21.21.59 # The backlight code was reworked yesterday, you need to updated to test this 21.22.25 # Ah. 21.22.32 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.22.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp51-38.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.22.52 # I haven't checked the updates in awhile, since I've been more concerned with my computer problems... 21.23.41 # (In a way, this is probably a good thing, since the current status says it'll take 35 min. to copy the files...) 21.24.47 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.24.57 # yes, but i found the problem still a few days ago...but i tested with a current build to make sure it's still present 21.40.09 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 21.41.39 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.45.03 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 21.45.57 # webguest70: Which SVN revision did you find the bug with. This is an old problem, and I believe should have been fixed. 21.45.57 # Remember Africam? mms://live.wildlife.wavelit.net/afsoiud214 21.46.05 # Oops. 21.46.58 # my version is r14283-070811 21.47.09 Quit darkraven90 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.47.31 Join Soul-Slayer [0] (n=Administ@89.241.226.189) 21.47.38 # webguest70: And you're experiencing the problem, right now, with that revision? 21.47.52 # yes i do 21.48.06 # Then please file a proper bug report describing clearly how to reproduce it 21.48.31 # will do:) thank you 21.51.20 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 21.54.22 Join daugustine [0] (n=daugusti@76-85-193-69.cable.inebraska.com) 21.54.43 Part gxti ("Raspberry Heaven, I'm coming back to you!") 21.55.04 Join Guile`` [0] (n=Guile@78.113.19.39) 21.57.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.02.29 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=Mouser_X@67.110.120.36.ptr.us.xo.net) 22.03.50 Quit midkay__ ("Leaving") 22.06.43 Join datasleep [0] (n=datachil@217-208-144-87-no75.tbcn.telia.com) 22.07.09 Quit datachild (Nick collision from services.) 22.12.21 Quit The-Compiler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.18.55 Quit desowin ("use linux") 22.21.06 Quit daugustine (Remote closed the connection) 22.25.15 Quit webguest70 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.27.40 # Anyone know how to load the Apple iPod OS in IDA Pro? 22.30.23 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.35.41 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.40.06 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.50.01 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.53.32 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.54.14 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 22.57.56 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@207.6.87.171) 22.59.22 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.00.12 # dionoea: some unknown person posted some helpful stuff on pastebin on the 9th @ 2300, here a copy http://pastebin.ca/653845 23.01.13 # also http://pastebin.ca/653848 23.03.33 Part homielowe 23.05.24 Join Spiorf_ [0] (n=Spiorf@ppp-52-58.21-151.libero.it) 23.06.13 Quit Spiorf_ (Client Quit) 23.06.26 Join harmattan [0] (n=harmatta@82.159.58.8.dyn.user.ono.com) 23.10.02 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 23.18.41 Join juxtap [0] (i=juxtap@unaffiliated/juxtap) 23.20.10 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s189a.studby.ntnu.no) 23.27.00 Join fm2 [0] (i=543a8e72@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-33143113fde670dc) 23.27.23 # GodEater_: ping 23.41.32 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=pyromanc@c-24-63-23-50.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.43.53 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.44.13 # Hrm... I seem to always catch the still time here 23.44.32 # And with no GodEater inside 23.44.33 # very still atm indeed 23.45.23 # everybody is codeing (hopefully ) :-) 23.46.05 # Bagder: seen my question? 23.46.13 # * petur tries to recover from westmalle triple :) 23.46.14 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.46.14 # no... 23.46.34 # Bagder: 21:05 23.47.02 Part harmattan ("Saliendo") 23.47.23 # rasher: ah, good idea on the hash thing 23.47.39 # I imagine this is what caused FS#7575 23.47.59 # right, good thinking! 23.51.35 # Working fine, although I get quite a few re-uses, even on the first run. Are there really so many identical (empty?) strings? 23.51.36 # petur: good luck! 23.52.33 # wow, the delta table is almost completely green.... 23.53.46 Quit fm2 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 23.53.47 Quit Guile`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.56.05 # Bagder: re 7583: I can remember this issue, I thought it was fixed... 23.56.23 # yeah, I fixed it... and then reverted it again since the fix was crap 23.56.33 # oh... 23.56.52 # I failed to remember that you reverted it 23.57.06 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/makesrc.inc?r1=13414&r2=13415 23.57.44 # that's the actual revert 23.57.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"