--- Log for 19.08.107 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 12 hours ago 00.00.12 Quit davina_ ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 00.00.31 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.06.32 Quit Sivart0 ("http://sivart0.s1.web-cave.net/forums") 00.06.59 Quit chrisjs169 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.19 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 00.14.19 Join Sivart0 [0] (n=me@wsip-70-182-234-245.ks.ks.cox.net) 00.15.50 Quit ompaul ("have fun") 00.16.01 # any suggestion on how to call the units for peak release? it's expressed in scale units per HZ 00.17.07 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-67-113-27.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 00.17.15 # scale_units_per_hz? 00.17.18 # :P 00.19.38 # just_some_unit :) 00.20.01 # * petur goes hunting old lang files because it existed in the past 00.22.16 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.41 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 00.25.11 Quit TTSbox ("Leaving") 00.27.46 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-114-141-137.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.30.57 Part agm3nt 00.32.50 # Bagder: around? 00.33.08 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 00.34.20 Join advcomp2019- [0] (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 00.35.22 # nevermind, found it... 00.38.09 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@host-091-097-093-012.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.50.39 Join robin_0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.51.24 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.06 Join chrisjs169_ [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-114-141-137.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.04.26 Join chrisjs169__ [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-114-141-137.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.06.01 Join xxhotman198 [0] (n=xx@adsl-163-134-122.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.08.28 Quit chrisjs169 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.16.11 # all these people and no comments lol 01.16.34 # xxhotman198: only the wise can see our conversations 01.16.50 # rofl 01.17.42 # the wise dont need to use mirc for conversations 01.18.14 # no, the wise use a decent irc client :p 01.18.30 # which is... 01.18.47 # * petur is using konversation atm 01.19.19 # * hcs uses gaim, but never claimed to be among the wise 01.19.23 Quit ender` (" Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I") 01.20.17 # Im only claiming to be a wise ass 01.20.45 # likewise :) 01.20.45 # * petur is just claiming to be tired... 'night 01.20.57 Quit petur ("Zzzzzz") 01.21.19 Quit chrisjs169_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.21.32 # so when r we gonna be able to play xbox360 games on S30 lol 01.22.03 # sry Im just a dumb ass 01.22.18 # gnight 01.22.18 # In all seriousness, we generally just have technical discussions here. People make an effort to read all the logs to keep up to date, so idle chatter is discourages. 01.22.32 # oh ok 01.22.49 Part xxhotman198 01.23.04 # * scorche sighs 01.25.31 Quit chrisjs169__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.40 # nobody wants a gigabeat F40 with rockbox install for 125$ :http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-MEG-F40S-40GB-MP3-w-Rockbox-software_W0QQitemZ320149268984QQihZ011QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 01.30.48 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 01.32.32 Quit Sivart0 () 01.34.02 Join Evilador [0] (n=cisco@24-116-46-176.cpe.cableone.net) 01.34.52 # can someone help me with the sansa e250 installation of rockbox, i messed up my MP3 player and can't access it via USB 01.35.35 # When I placed the rockbox files on the mp3 player i didn't place them in the .rockbox directory now i can't access via MP3 01.37.14 # Does anyone have the Windows drivers for Sansa e250 so I can access it via USB 01.38.28 Quit kubiixaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.40.24 # anyone know anything about RockBox in here 01.42.46 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.44.20 # is that your auction toffe82 ? 01.45.54 # I have made changes to plugin.c to be able to call a plugin from a plugin. This works but... 01.45.57 # nope, I guess not - I see the Wisconson location. 01.46.09 # I get an undefined instruction when exiting the called plugin. 01.46.42 # any ideas how I can force the first pluging to quit when the second is called?? 01.49.55 # no. good night ;) 01.49.58 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 01.52.23 Quit Phill (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.52.58 Join Dyvn [0] (i=4632d37c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d08981f9dd6ca15b) 01.53.17 # Soap: no :) 01.54.15 # Does anyone know when RockBox will be working for the ipod nano second generation? 01.55.43 Quit Evilador () 01.55.46 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.57.10 # possibly never 01.57.25 # but nobody _could_ know as nobody is working on it. 01.58.19 Quit shiftplusone ("Leaving") 01.58.49 # Ah, alright. Thank-you. 01.59.13 # Certainly makes me regret buying an ipod second gen. :S 01.59.36 # I sold my 2GB model for enough cash to get a brand new 4GB first gen. 01.59.52 # and $40 extra spending cash 01.59.54 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 02.00.49 # Awesome. Doubt I'd find someone willing to buy an ipod around where I live. :P 02.01.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.05.35 Quit Dyvn ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.05.40 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.06.07 Join BigMac [0] (n=BigMac@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 02.07.53 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 02.09.57 Part n1s 02.12.41 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.14.31 # Anybody here good with Rockbox bitmap image display. lcd_bitmap() 02.30.05 Quit barrywardell () 02.30.53 Join Evilador [0] (n=cisco@24-116-46-176.cpe.cableone.net) 02.31.37 # When I connect my Sandisk Sansa to my computer via USB im not able to browse the files 02.31.46 # Windows dones't recongnize the device 02.31.55 # Any help please 02.32.12 # is it set to mtp? or msc?> 02.32.42 # How do you change that setting in Rockbox 02.32.45 # I can't find it 02.33.56 # original sansa firmware has it 02.34.02 # rockbox does not support usb yet 02.34.11 # How do I load the original fireware 02.34.16 # firmware 02.34.17 # press left while turning power on 02.34.28 # or hookup usb while powering on 02.35.15 # I placed the .rockbox folder onto the player and used sansapatcher program to override the bootloader 02.35.17 # all this is mentioned in the user guide 02.36.23 # It not mentioned 02.36.36 # they assume USB connections will work 02.36.38 # mine doesn't 02.36.55 # rockbox does not support usb yet 02.37.02 # use sansa original firmware for that 02.38.08 # how do I use the original firmware 02.38.16 # is it still installed on my sansa 02.38.24 # press left while turning power on 02.38.27 # I didn't override anything 02.38.44 # The easiest way is to turn off your sansa, and while it's turned off, plug in the USB cable and wait 02.39.25 # Llorean, i always do the left key routine because of the OF db update messing with usb detection 02.40.43 # tumu: I've never had it mess with USB connection on any of my computers. Odd. 02.41.07 # Wow 02.41.13 # Have you reported the DB update as interfering to Sandisk? It seems the kind of thing they'd want to fix, since it would probably cause a lot of confused users for them too. 02.41.14 # Thank you guys so much :) 02.41.16 # Thanks 02.41.17 # Thanks 02.41.18 DBUG Enqueued KICK Evilador 02.41.18 # Thanks 02.41.37 # Evilador, next time read the guides 02.41.44 Quit robin_0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.46 # Ive been playing around with this thing for a couple days now and couldn't figure it out 02.41.48 # Will do 02.41.50 # Thanks again 02.41.59 Quit Evilador () 02.42.52 # Llorean, haven't and simple replug fixes it after the db update anyway 02.43.26 # i tend to just turn it on and plug it after the db update 02.44.46 Join TTSbox [0] (i=OzgurOzt@DNab42237f.Stanford.EDU) 02.45.23 # Hi, I had been using the wmware debian linux from rockbox site for development 02.45.32 # but now I bought a new laptop 02.45.37 # with vista 02.46.05 # AFAIK vista doesn't support vmware 02.46.24 # do you have any recommendations for development on Vista 02.46.27 # ? 02.47.12 Join tonyy [0] (n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso) 02.47.43 Quit tonyyarusso (Nick collision from services.) 02.47.47 Nick tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso (n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso) 02.48.59 # TTSbox: I'm pretty sure it works. Have you tried it? 02.49.04 # maybe try the cygwin dev install 02.49.44 # yeah maybe I should go cygwin direction 02.50.35 # Why not try VMWare first, and verify whether it works... 02.50.41 # I couldn't try since http://www.vmware.com/maintenance/temp_maintenance.html 02.50.57 # vmware site is off for maintenance today. 02.51.39 # I'm pretty sure it's that certain versions of Vista are resistant to being virtualized, not the other way around. Though I'm not certain. 02.52.09 # Oh I found another download site 02.52.13 # I may try it now 02.52.14 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.01.44 Join hfliezfh [0] (n=agnth@69.130.245.162) 03.02.18 # Ok, it works with vista 03.02.19 # Windows Vista support - You can use Windows Vista as a host and guest operating system. 03.02.33 # VMware Player 2.0 03.03.25 Quit Robin0800 (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 03.07.19 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-98-11.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 03.09.24 Nick advcomp2019- is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 03.09.57 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 03.17.05 Quit TTSbox ("Leaving") 03.22.10 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.22.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.25.51 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.32.46 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.33.32 Quit bdgraue (Remote closed the connection) 03.35.57 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.47.58 Join cmvjk [0] (n=blah@223.34.143.24.cm.sunflower.com) 03.50.40 Join webguest81 [0] (i=83ac630f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-61ad031d8b0101a3) 03.51.32 # Hi Guys .....just a quick question.....can the gigabeat still play music and access the menu system while hooked to the USB???? 03.52.38 # Not if you're using it for file transfer. 03.52.45 # If you hold Menu so you're in charge-only mode, yes. 03.53.18 # Cool thankyou thats awesome!!! 03.53.49 Quit webguest81 (Client Quit) 04.02.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.12.36 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.14.35 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 04.46.15 Quit advcomp2019 ("Leaving") 05.11.39 Part hcs 05.23.17 Join webguest27 [0] (i=8d9d6a08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-79c73552791eaced) 05.43.51 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 05.48.25 Join Lizzard [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-69-230-205-106.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 05.48.42 # Hello 05.49.50 Join saratoga [0] (i=442cd1a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-478c8cc39367e4e9) 05.50.48 # preglow: those ffmpeg people actually benchmarked a few fft implementations 05.50.59 # i want to look into trying them on ARM 05.51.10 # might be cool to see what a split radix version can do on arm 05.51.16 # or coldfire too 05.52.28 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 05.53.41 # Is this the right place to ask rockbox questions? 05.54.48 # Yes, assuming they aren't in the documentation. 05.55.33 # Hmm.. 06.02.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.08.01 Quit GRaTT ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 06.11.03 Quit webguest27 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.13.28 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 06.15.13 # does the sansa not charge very fast? 06.15.37 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 06.18.10 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Leaving") 06.36.15 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 06.44.30 Join pipoka [0] (i=xiybo@c911d1c2.bhz.virtua.com.br) 07.23.19 Part toffe82 07.27.06 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.34.22 Quit Lizzard (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.36.34 # DogBoy: it charges more slowly under rockbox than under the OF 07.41.28 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 08.02.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.05.15 Join HellDragon_ [0] (i=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 08.05.53 Quit HellDragon (Nick collision from services.) 08.06.21 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 08.06.33 Nick HellDragon_ is now known as HellDragon (i=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 08.09.12 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 08.12.51 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-ccbd02b12dd23782) 08.15.07 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@chitin.mycronite.net) 08.26.55 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 08.27.46 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 08.37.05 Join kubiixaka [0] (n=Miranda@ip-89-103-17-41.karneval.cz) 08.40.29 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 08.43.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 08.50.46 Quit darkraven ("bin off cu") 08.51.28 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16D9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.57.15 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@dsl-kpogw4-fe55df00-86.dhcp.inet.fi) 09.05.17 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 09.06.36 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-236-15-164.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 09.09.01 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.17.01 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.23.58 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 09.25.52 Join davina [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.27.13 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.30.25 Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-7b1a94d2e890d4f8) 09.32.14 Quit pipoka ("CyberScript - O único script que cuida de sua mulher enquanto o ricardão não chega. (www.cyberscript.org)") 09.40.56 Join ashok [0] (n=Greatguy@59.93.43.72) 09.41.32 # hi all 09.43.24 # hallo 09.43.45 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@79.187.93.186) 09.43.52 # hi ashok 09.52.28 # ashok: got a question, or just saying hi? 09.56.29 # i need to know if i can uninstall rockbox after installinh whtout harming the original OS 09.56.41 # What device do you have? 09.57.16 # AFAIK, the only target where a Rockbox installation in non-reversible is the iriver H3xx - you lose the DRM capability forever. 09.57.36 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0311D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.57.55 # so only for the US version of the H300, right? 09.57.57 # ok 09.58.06 # markun: Yes. 09.58.08 # i got ipod 3)GB video (5.5G) 09.58.22 # i mean 30GB 09.58.59 # ashok: On the ipods, you always have the option of a restore via itunes - this restores your ipod to factory settings. But that's a last resort - the manual describes how to uninstall Rockbox, and you can dual-boot when Rockbox is installed. 10.02.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.04.15 Join ygfperson [0] (i=97cb9d74@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b3d05e90bbd8242c) 10.04.33 # GodEater_: Alright, before I respond, whose problem are we talking about. 10.04.40 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-208-214.student.uu.se) 10.04.51 # "Other thread" "First poster in that thread" or "Guy in that thread who says 'I have the exact same problem'"? 10.05.46 # markun: Does the gigabeat bootloader enable interrupts? (IIUC, it doesn't) 10.10.39 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.11.09 Quit ashridah ("food") 10.18.22 Join darkraven [0] (n=darkrave@p54A331D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.18.38 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@86.72.189.135) 10.26.58 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 10.31.09 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net) 10.34.29 # Llorean: can I habe one of those flashy badges in the forum? 10.35.35 # n1s: You're nls in the forums, or? 10.35.42 # yes 10.36.15 # Should be done now 10.36.21 # thanks! :-) 10.36.27 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964778.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.36.36 # yup working fine 10.36.55 Quit ashok () 10.37.16 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 10.38.21 # linuxstb_: no, the bootloader doesn't 10.39.50 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.40.40 # markun: I was about to ask how you handle sleep(), but see you've implemented a special case for the gigabeat bootloader... 10.41.03 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964778.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.41.43 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 10.41.43 # * linuxstb_ has resumed the av300 port 10.41.48 # * Llorean cheers 10.42.18 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@141.12.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 10.44.08 # linuxstb_: this change might become a nice gotcha for you if you try to build a bootloader for it... http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/configure?r1=14212&r2=14217&pathrev=14386 10.45.30 # n1s: Yes, that got me. I changed it to test for cpu type instead of manufacturer. 10.45.46 # ok, good 10.46.39 # The bootloader now compiles and links - I now need to make it do something... 10.54.54 # Hello, does anyone use Replaygain on a software platform? 10.55.12 # Could they just try something for me? 10.55.37 # I use replaygain, but what do you mean by software platform? 10.55.48 # swcodec I assume 10.55.52 # ah 10.55.56 # Yes ;) 10.56.05 # my bad 10.56.10 # But there's nowhere else anyone could be using it... (atm) 10.57.16 # I found something in the code which I think is wrong and I wanted to try if it was really wrong - only I don't have a player with swcodec. 10.58.09 # markun: can you try turning up the "Pregain"? Does that change the volume much? 10.58.13 # I think it should work in the sim though. 10.58.38 # Note to self: Build sim and try ;) 10.59.39 # einhirn: yes, it does 10.59.56 # did you think that was a bug? 11.00.48 # Hmm, according to my understanding of fixed point calculation it shouldn't get much louder ;) 11.00.48 # Maybe we can handle this in theory: I found that "dsp_set_replaygain()" in dsp.c converts the pregain value from the configuration with the routines in replaygain.c 11.01.27 # Then it multiplies the converted value (a 19.12 Fixed Point from my understanding) to a 7.24 Fixedpoint gain value. 11.02.11 # So either I don't understand it correctly or the calculation is wrong ;) 11.02.22 # at least it doesn't sound wrong 11.02.43 # (rockbox doesn't sound wrong I mean) 11.02.47 # *g* yes - at least. 11.02.51 # einhirn: try to get ahold of Lear when he's around he coded the ReplayGain for swcodec 11.02.58 # I'm here... 11.03.53 # ah, hi :-) 11.04.02 # Lear: Can you enlighten me about this particular multiplication? 11.04.23 # Which one, more exactly? 11.05.13 # line 1386 in dsp.c 11.05.59 # I think (as said above) that it cannot be right because the fixed point format of gain and preamp differ. 11.06.09 Quit ygfperson ("CGI:IRC") 11.09.06 # Both come from convert_gain in replaygain.c, so the formats should be the same... 11.10.42 # But "track_gain" is set from "id3->track_gain" which in turn is a 7.24 Fixed point. 11.10.52 # according to a comment. 11.11.23 # while convert_gain produces the 19.12 fixed point I was talking about... 11.11.40 # * einhirn greps around in source code. 11.11.42 # No, the last thing convert_gain does is to adjust to 7.24. 11.12.00 # And convert_gain is used to calculate the track_gain value too. 11.12.27 # Ok, then there is a comment that was misleading. 11.12.35 Quit petur ("reconfiguring") 11.13.09 # Oh, concerning comments: line 1409 in dsp.c seems to be out of place... 11.13.45 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 11.13.59 # The operation to that comment is (i think) found in line 857 of dsp.c 11.14.03 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c1344.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 11.14.42 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host89-210-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.15.33 # That would make sense, yes... 11.15.51 # Which comment was misleading, by the way? 11.16.13 # firmware/export/id3.h: long track_gain; /* 7.24 signed fixed point. 0 for no gain. */ 11.16.13 # firmware/export/id3.h- long album_gain; 11.17.28 # Which isn't the case since it's produced by get_replaygain_int 11.18.29 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 11.18.33 # (at least in apps/metadata/mpc.c) 11.20.03 # But get_replaygain_int calls convert_gain too, and returns a 7.24 value too. 11.21.46 # Waitaminit - I was really convinced that all in "replaygain.c" was 19.12... 11.22.33 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@85-124-45-228.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 11.22.49 Join kretender [0] (n=kaspar@122-141.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 11.23.26 # Oh, it seems that I misread that one line... 11.23.32 # Yes, all calculations are done in 19.12, but return values are 7.24. That bit could be easy to miss, I guess. :) 11.24.13 # Yes thats what I missed: << (24 - FP_BITS) 11.25.02 # Ok, then - two days of hurting head for nothing... 11.25.03 # ;) 11.25.16 # * einhirn slaps his forehead 11.26.16 # Thanks for that clarification ;) 11.27.19 Join kratonator [0] (i=5449e6df@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-dfe8811eac8025ce) 11.27.32 # hi all 11.27.58 # i have a question...it might sound stupid but... 11.28.12 # just ask :) 11.28.25 # why cant i see the .rockbox folder on my 3rd gen ipod? i can see it on my sansa... 11.28.35 # (using rockbox) 11.28.50 # select show all files 11.29.36 Quit pepie34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.30.01 # thanks, haven't thought about that one... 11.30.55 # i didnt have to select "show all files" it on my sansa though... 11.30.57 # strange 11.31.37 # well I don't know why. did it work? I have to do that on my iriver. Maybe it is a bug. 11.31.51 # it did work 11.31.59 # good 11.32.25 # i thought there is yet again an apple related problem...:)) 11.33.29 # why would it be an apple problem? aren't you using rockbox. And maybe it is a bug with your other player because the same thing happens on the iriver. 11.34.09 # maybe all folders with the . starting there name are only shown when not in all files mode. 11.34.16 # I don't know 11.34.28 # whatever...i can now design wps' directly on the player 11.34.37 # how? 11.34.42 # kratonator: good luck 11.34.55 # with the text editor? 11.34.58 # is the editor good enough to work with? 11.35.03 # yeah, sabayonlinux also hides folders starting wiht "." 11.35.06 # yes 11.35.15 # I would have thought it would take a long time. 11.35.23 # and for the ipod grayscale wps i dont need to write too many things 11.35.45 # but it works 11.36.02 # i added album art for a lot of themes for the sansa 11.36.19 # what would be nice is voice for the text editor. I know not possible. And it would probably be anoying having a whole document spelled. 11.36.20 # all of them were edited on the player itself 11.36.47 # won't the click wheel on the ipod make it hard? 11.37.24 # but the wps file is almost only @#$%^& characters...it would be a pain in the *** to listen to that:D 11.37.44 # the clickwheel makes it easier 11.37.54 # as you can cycle through the letters faster 11.38.20 # does it? I hate the nano click wheel. 11.38.30 # ddalton: voiceing of plugins is certainly not impossible, it's just that no-one has done it yet :-) 11.38.33 # just a slight touch makes it do something. 11.38.44 # well i have the 3rd gen...it doesnt have the click wheeel 11.38.59 # so navigating through menus is anoying because I usually skip some not meaning to. 11.39.07 # it has a touch sensible wheel but its not the click wheel 11.39.14 # what does it have? 11.39.27 # so how is it used? 11.39.42 # http://www.heylonghorn.com/img/3808_19160qPjpt8QmdcL.jpg 11.40.00 # well is that a photo? 11.40.11 # its almost the same thing...but it doesnt have buttons 11.40.14 # yeah 11.40.19 # its a photo 11.40.38 # It is a bit hard to look at it when I can't see. but don't worry. 11.40.57 # sorry, didn't knew that 11.41.41 # its basicly the same touch sensible wheel but it doesnt have buttons on it 11.41.51 # ok that's fine 11.41.54 # the four buttons are placed on the top 11.42.01 # does rockbox use sizeof? 11.42.31 # i dont know 11.42.38 # ddalton: yes 11.42.49 # n1s: what for? 11.42.50 # or rather the compiler uses it most of the time 11.42.55 # n1s: Those keylock messages don't quite fit on an archos player... 11.43.03 # to find out the size of something 11.43.18 # and then do what with that infomation? 11.43.25 # what for file sizes? 11.43.27 # Lear: according to amiconn they would, the splash will word wrap and have two lines 11.43.41 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 11.43.47 # Ah, didn't think about that... :) 11.44.03 # does somebody know if FS#6733 still works? 11.44.11 # ddalton: sizeof isn't for files... 11.44.25 # it tried to compile yesterday and it didnt compile correctly 11.44.26 # so what does rockbox use it for then? 11.44.33 # ddalton: it returns the size in bytes of a data type 11.44.51 # so then what does rockbox do with that information? 11.45.08 # for example sizeof(long) will return 4 on any of our targets but 8 on a 64 bit machine 11.45.28 # ddalton: it's useful when foing stuff like memcpy and memset 11.45.36 # s/foing/doing 11.46.24 # It's better to use sizeof than to assume anything about how much memory a variable uses. If the size should change for any reason, sizeof will still be correct. A must for structs, since you have alignments issues there. 11.46.53 # about p6733 it should but does it apply cleanly? 11.47.07 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@e181074147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.48.07 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.110) 11.48.21 # kratonator: it should but do you get hunk errors? 11.48.35 # p6733 I am talking about. 11.49.36 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net) 11.57.18 # n1s: Another lang thing: Should LANG_DISK_FULL and LANG_SYSFONT_DISK_FULL really differ the way they do? 12.00.49 # yes, if i remember correcty i got hunk errors 12.00.54 # Lear: yes, because they are cancelled by different actions, one by ACTION_FM_STOP and the other by ACTION_STD_CANCEL 12.02.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.47 # kratonator: what you could try is update rockbox to the date of the patch, apply is, then update to now again and fix the conflicts 12.04.14 # i am not that savvy...but ill try... 12.04.18 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 12.04.42 # what can i do when i see such a conflict? 12.08.50 # kratonator: I am looking at it just give me a second 12.09.31 # oh 12.09.31 # I don't know if I will be able to fix it but I will try. I also want to make a splash screen from that patch voice as well. 12.09.45 # thank you, very kind from you 12.09.53 # so what do you like about the patch? 12.10.10 # it doesn't compile 12.10.40 # i don't remember what error message i get but... 12.12.21 # I am just checking out. 12.12.23 # svn 12.13.22 # so you get hunk errors? 12.13.33 # or does it apply cleanly but not compile? 12.13.59 # apply cleanly but not compile IIRC 12.14.50 # so there are no hunk errors? 12.15.13 # i guess not 12.15.28 # well can you apply it now and see? 12.15.29 # but i tried to add so many patches that didnt work... 12.15.42 # if you wait a minute or two 12.16.03 # it will just make it easier if they are hunk errors not code errors. 12.16.24 # but since you have had it working before I would have thought the code would be ok. 12.16.44 # i didn't have it work before 12.16.53 # that's the problem 12.17.16 # well just try one tell me the other patches as well. But when you are testing a patch you shouldn't add more patches. Then it is easier to find the problem. 12.17.37 # so it has never worked? 12.18.05 # i know...i just tried one patch, didnt work, than another one...didnt work either...and so on 12.18.21 # no, never worked 12.18.22 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.18.25 # so you have never got this patch to work at all? 12.18.59 # ok 12.19.00 Join kratonator19 [0] (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 12.19.13 # I will try to fix it. But no garrentees 12.19.18 # i will be able to 12.19.26 # switched to sabayonlinux 12.21.13 # ok 12.21.27 # 2 hunks out of 8 failed 12.21.49 # is that with p6733? 12.22.24 # yes 12.22.34 # ok that must be the problem 12.22.44 # should i paste the output? 12.23.05 # no the rej files. 12.23.34 Quit kratonator ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.23.44 Join smail [0] (n=ismail@vil69-3-82-224-208-165.fbx.proxad.net) 12.24.41 # rej files? 12.25.28 # yes if a hunk fails on english.lang for example, you then should locate the file english.lang.rej and paste its contance 12.25.43 # on a website not on here because it won't fit. 12.26.15 # pastebin or something 12.26.22 # but i can find it 12.26.38 # try http://pastebin.ca/ 12.27.09 # it should be in the same folder with the patch? 12.27.39 # wiat 12.27.52 # no the file it failed to patch for example if english.lang failed it would be in /apps/lang 12.28.05 # found it... 12.28.17 # this check out is taking for ever of the source. 12.28.27 # it has been like 40 minutes 12.29.40 # heres the first one 12.29.57 # where? 12.30.09 # http://pastebin.ca/663167 12.30.23 # got it didn't see your message 12.31.31 # and heres the second one 12.31.34 # http://pastebin.ca/663168 12.31.45 # is that all? 12.32.09 # yes 12.32.15 # only two hunks failed 12.33.27 # don't you mean two files. Did only one hunk fail from each file? And what files were they? 12.34.18 # hunk #4 failed 12.34.19 # at 12.34.26 # 723 12.34.42 # what files? 12.34.56 # main_menu.c 12.35.12 Quit barrywardell () 12.35.17 # and the second one powermgmt.c 12.35.55 # ok 12.36.17 # ok now I have finally got the source 12.36.55 # do I apply with p0 or p1? 12.36.58 Nick kratonator19 is now known as kratonator (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 12.37.28 # p0 12.37.43 # ok 12.38.01 # i dont know if its ok or not though 12.39.50 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 12.40.44 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m103h.studby.ntnu.no) 12.44.57 Quit barrywardell () 12.51.45 # this line is from a patch shutdown_timeout += HZ*20; should the + be removed? 12.51.59 # from the file it should go into 12.52.11 # are you asking me? 12.52.29 # ddalton: No, that is the same as "shutdown_timeout = shutdown_timeout + HZ*20;" 12.52.31 # anyone who knows. it is p6733 I am working on. 12.52.52 # aliask thanks for that I will leave it. 12.53.34 Part qweru ("So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!") 12.58.31 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 12.59.54 # is there any help ida pro ? i got a copy but i'am totaly new to all that 13.01.14 # any reading to recommend ? 13.01.21 # smail: what are you planning to do? 13.02.04 # disassemble the rom of my elio 13.02.32 # is "reboot" a function or a variable? 13.02.39 # because I get an error. 13.03.32 # smail: load the file, select the correct CPU type and then you need to press a button at some address to start disassembling (C or L of something) 13.03.37 # but ida will tell you 13.04.14 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 13.05.01 # markun: The Elio bootloader is a mixture of ARM and Thumb code - so I assume IDA Pro has an option for that/ 13.05.02 # ? 13.05.24 # no idea 13.05.47 # perhaps it will switch automatically 13.06.59 # I thought it didn't - maybe it depends on the version of ida 13.17.15 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.17.43 Join Nick_Brackley [0] (n=chatzill@75.73.87.203.static.nsw.chariot.net.au) 13.18.05 # petur: I was looking at the usb stuff a bit more 13.18.22 # i see that austriancoder got error -71 13.19.05 # which looks like EPROTO in the linux source (http://lxr.linux.no/source/include/asm-generic/errno.h#L44) 13.21.18 # barrywardell: I haven't had much time for this. austriancoder claims the setaddress is handled (which I don't see in the code) and that the sending is failing. I will have an H10 5GB tomorrow noon so I'll be joining the debugging ;) 13.22.33 # petur: and IIUC that only happens in usb_get_descriptor() if bytes are transferred (http://lxr.linux.no/ident?i=usb_get_descriptor) 13.22.42 # petur: I was thinking, would the USB code be applicable to the gigabeat s? If so, I'd like to test on it. 13.22.54 # petur: I think set address is handled all right 13.23.24 # aliask: I think it would be - you just have to change the base address 13.23.45 # Which is the current patch? 13.23.49 # * barrywardell looks forward to petur getting a delivery 13.24.18 # aliask: I'm using this: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/mrh_try_barry.diff 13.24.23 # I created a new file in the rockbox source how do I tell the patch this? 13.24.28 # not sure if austriancoder has anything more recent 13.25.04 # oh fun..."begin final evaluations" is tomorrow 13.25.44 Join Tri [0] (n=Tri@125.234.234.165) 13.27.14 # petur: also, here's some usb debug messages from my mac: http://pastebin.ca/663203 13.28.10 # there are no errors about "GetDeviceZeroDescriptor (size: 8)", just errors for "GetDeviceDescriptor (size 18)" 13.28.23 # petur: what does the USB code do so far? 13.28.31 # and then run svn diff >filename after that? 13.29.13 # and filename is like: /apps/menus/power_menu.c in my case? 13.30.06 # ddalton: You need to (locally) add it to svn - "svn add apps/menus/power_menu.c" 13.31.34 # aliask: Does the gigabeat s only have a software usb mode? i.e. there's no ata<->usb bridge? 13.31.55 # linuxstb: Correct (iiuc) 13.32.13 # it has the same usb controller as PP 13.32.36 # or at least register compatible 13.32.53 # barrywardell: Yes, I was just wondering if there was a hardware bridge as well. 13.33.02 # ah, ok 13.33.19 # I'm basing my assumptions on this diagram: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatSInfo?rev=1;filename=gigabeat_s60_logic_block_diagram.png 13.34.50 # barrywardell: it's not really a delivery, more a pick-up ;) 13.35.36 # Anyone know of a Windows program creating RVA2 ID3V2 frames? 13.35.54 # I found somebody 10 minutes from my work and managed to get him drop the price from 100 to 75 euro 13.36.14 # even better! 13.37.38 # * barrywardell has gtg now 13.37.57 Quit barrywardell () 13.38.03 # barrywardell : would you agree that getting the first 8 bytes seems to work and then it fails? To be sure, can you run the same test with sending disabled in the code. Just to be sure that the mac isn't requesting the 18 bytes regardless of the previous 13.38.06 # aaargh 13.38.15 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.38.24 Quit Tri ("Leaving") 13.39.58 Join The_Compiler [0] (n=florian@89.61.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 13.41.02 Quit The-Compiler (Nick collision from services.) 13.42.07 Quit The_Compiler (Remote closed the connection) 13.42.30 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@89.61.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 13.43.30 Quit ddalton ("I was using BOFHNet IRC version 1.2 by fmillion - get your copy today from http://www.the-bofh.com/bofhnet/irc !") 13.45.16 # Seems MediaMonkey does it... 13.46.03 # * petur gtg too.. real life calling... 13.46.12 Quit petur ("*plop*") 13.52.11 Quit kratonator ("Leaving") 13.52.14 Join kratonator [0] (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 13.54.25 Quit kretender (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.57.16 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 13.58.30 Nick kratonator is now known as ihateallaustrian (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 13.59.02 Nick ihateallaustrian is now known as actuallyonlyone (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 13.59.27 Nick actuallyonlyone is now known as awannabebassplay (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 13.59.33 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.00.11 Part awannabebassplay ("Leaving") 14.02.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.05.22 Join kratonator [0] (n=kratonat@84-73-230-223.dclient.hispeed.ch) 14.06.21 Join latchema [0] (n=Adam@217.115.gr5.adsl.brightview.com) 14.14.26 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 14.16.40 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4241.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.16.56 # petur: when you get back. I tried disabling the usb_send() like you suggested and I get a different result 14.18.18 # petur: my mac now complains like so: http://pastebin.ca/663235 14.18.46 # so it no longer receives the 8 bytes for GetDeviceZeroDescriptor 14.20.42 # to me that sounds like the send is indeed sending 8 bytes as it should, but maybe the bytes it is sending are wrong somehow (that would agree with the error -71 austriancoder had on linux too) 14.20.58 # I also get done=8 as the result of usb_send() 14.22.32 # when the send is enabled 14.23.45 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.26.45 # also, with usb_send() disabled just in the case of the device descriptor, I get in logf the sequence: bRequest = 6,6,6,6,5 followed by TIMEOUT->port 14.27.07 # so setaddress happens without getting the descriptor first 14.33.36 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.34.34 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@e181122184.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.37.33 # hmmm...ibss means zeroed data, right? 14.38.16 # if it is, then I don't think devdsc, dqdsc, or confdata should be ibss 14.40.41 Quit smail (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.45.30 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4A5E.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.48.55 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 14.51.11 # * barrywardell thinks that he has figured out the usb send problem 14.51.30 # it was the ibss: we were sending ok, but just sending zeroes! 14.52.09 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 14.52.13 # congrats! 14.52.55 # barrywardell: Nice! How well does it work (if at all) now? 14.53.15 # I still don't get a drive appearing 14.54.38 # More problems with transfer, or simply unwritten msc stuff? 14.57.02 # but it sends the device descriptor (8 bytes), sets the address, sends the full device descriptor (18 bytes), sends the configuration descriptor (4 bytes), sends the full configuration descriptor (18 bytes), 15.00.08 Join webguest86 [0] (i=4a64ab5f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-657ba2770dd9f25c) 15.00.10 # then sends device descriptor (18 bytes), sends config descriptor (4 bytes), sends full config descriptor (18 bytes), sends the dqd (10 bytes), then gets a request type 7 which we don't deal with 15.00.33 # i.e. s-wValue>>8 = 7 15.00.45 # aliask: looks like the transfer is good now 15.00.50 # hi guy's do you know where i can download x5 bootloader for rockbox?? 15.00.54 # the problems are elsewhere 15.02.20 # barrywardell: I'm eager to test this all, but it'll require a bit of work because the gigabeat s branch has drifted a bit from trunk. 15.02.47 # aliask: great. here's my current patch: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/mrh_try_barry2.diff 15.03.19 # aliask: you'll have to change the UOG_* defines to use a different base address 15.03.28 # found it. thnx anyway 15.03.31 Part webguest86 15.03.33 # instead of 0xc5000000 15.04.21 # And I'm sure I'll have to de-pp it too in terms of where all the code is stored. 15.04.45 Join kretender [0] (n=kaspar@122-141.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 15.04.49 # Oh, no - doesn't look like I will actually 15.05.02 # exactly, most of the code is in drivers/arcotg_udc.c 15.05.32 # I'm not sure if .irodata is the right thing to use, but it seems to work 15.05.38 # Do you know if this will work without interrupts? 15.07.25 # the current code doesn't use interrupts 15.07.32 # excellent. 15.07.39 # kind of anyway 15.08.35 # the usb_int() function just gets called every time the timer ticks 15.09.41 Quit parafin (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.10.17 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 15.12.27 # anyway, gtg again now. I'll check back in later 15.13.02 Quit barrywardell () 15.17.17 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 15.18.54 # austriancoder: Did you just see barry's discovery? 15.19.20 # aliask: yes... I am tring out my selfe right now 15.20.32 # * austriancoder would be happy to test the stack more with working tx :) 15.25.30 Quit Nick_Brackley ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 15.26.21 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 15.26.48 # for what is __attribute__ ((section(".irodata"))) used? For what is this section? 15.27.04 # barrywardell: I am trying your patch at the moment... 15.28.33 # I think it's read only data in iram 15.28.52 # here's a debug log from my mac: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/USB_Log.txt 15.29.17 # To quote amiconn when committing something from mid 2005 "allowing to put 'const' data into IRAM without causing a section type conflict" 15.29.22 # you can see around 4022.073 that the correct data is being sent 15.29.36 # barrywardell: yes... thats by there is 15.29.37 # unsigned char buffer[BUFFER_SIZE] __attribute((aligned (1 << 12))) __attribute__ ((section(".ibss"))); 15.30.02 # yes, but that isn't initialized to any value so it's ok 15.30.12 # ibss means that rockbox writes 0's to it on startup 15.30.26 # overwriting whatever was there before 15.30.53 # sure... but when i do a send: 15.30.54 # +usb_send(const void * buf, int size)+{+ const char * ptr = buf;+ int todo, done = 0;+ int error;+ logf("usb_send");+ + logf("buf[1]=%u",(unsigned char)ptr[1]);+ do {+ if (USB_BUS_RESET) {+ longjmp(reset_env, 1);+ }++ todo = MIN(size, BUFFER_SIZE);++ memcpy(buffer, ptr, todo); 15.30.59 # btw. it looks like everything is working now from that log 15.31.12 # we just don't have a msc device driver yet 15.31.24 # It should copy my data i want to send into that buffer and send it then.. or? 15.31.30 # msc driver is in work... 15.31.33 # yes, it will 15.32.09 # but the data it is copying is from devdsc, which is all zeroes if you put it into ibss 15.32.26 Quit The-Compiler (Remote closed the connection) 15.32.38 # barrywardell: was the idea of petur to put everything in iram.. for testing 15.32.40 # barrywardell: 15.32.45 # usb 2-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32usb 2-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choiceusb 2-6: USB disconnect, address 32 15.32.50 # great :) 15.33.24 # Good timing too, half an hour until the 20th where I am :) 15.33.25 # yes, in iram, but not ibss, because that overwrites the data. you should use idata or irodata (for read only data) to put non-zero stuff in iram 15.33.30 # austriancoder: great:) 15.33.48 # gotta go again now, but I'll check back later how you're getting on 15.34.11 # barrywardell: thanks you very much... if i see you in real life.. you get two or more beer from me 15.34.19 # :) 15.34.22 Quit barrywardell () 15.34.37 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 15.36.38 # do you get to choose your USB device ID since you are writing your own stack? 15.37.10 Quit latchema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.37.34 Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@89.61.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) 15.38.29 # At the moment I dont thinking about the usb device id... at the moment i want to get all running up 15.43.03 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 15.54.51 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007073113]") 15.55.33 Part _jz 16.02.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.03.00 Join chrisjs169__ [0] (n=chrisjs@pool-71-114-141-137.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.03.11 Nick chrisjs169__ is now known as chrisjs169 (n=chrisjs@pool-71-114-141-137.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.11.19 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 16.15.53 Join tri170391 [0] (n=tri17039@125.234.234.165) 16.16.34 # austriancoder: congratulations! 16.17.03 # desowin: barry helped me... without him tx would not work 16.24.15 Quit tri170391 ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 16.24.41 Join cayetano1 [0] (n=carlos12@d83-189-50-97.cust.tele2.de) 16.25.17 # austriancoder: so you have a native rockbox USB stack working now ? 16.25.54 # dionoea: almost... msc driver is not ready... and some cleanups are needed 16.26.18 # cool :) 16.31.30 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m103h.studby.ntnu.no) 16.33.59 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.38.39 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 16.38.41 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 16.50.01 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 16.52.40 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 16.52.57 Join frederv [0] (i=frederv@caracal.stud.ntnu.no) 16.57.09 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p54BD272D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.58.05 # austriancoder, barrywardell: nice work :) 16.58.58 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! 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I was wondering if there is an easy way to revert from all patches wihtout redownloading all of SVN. 17.53.15 # Phalangees: "svn revert -R ./" 17.53.32 # without the quotes of course 17.53.45 # Thanks markun! 17.53.50 # np 17.58.59 Quit Phalangees ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.02.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.16.59 Quit haemmy () 18.25.13 Join sim_ [0] (n=sim@evr91-1-82-227-12-249.fbx.proxad.net) 18.26.17 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p508A58B9.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.27.35 Join bdgraue [0] (n=bdgraue@host-091-096-224-177.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.32.50 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 18.35.55 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 18.37.07 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@mur31-1-82-237-204-133.fbx.proxad.net) 18.40.57 # Got to go - see you later. 18.41.07 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! 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If i understand the code correctly it now only takes the width of the last character in the .kbd file for calculating the grid for the keyboard. with my custom keyboard the grid becomes too narrow and most of the characters are only half visible. 20.33.53 # * Llorean points to the "Bugs" link on the left side of the website. 20.36.12 # ok, i'll post a bugreport later. 20.36.28 Quit Pyromancer ("Leaving") 20.36.32 Quit PaulJam (".") 20.37.59 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@85-124-45-143.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 20.48.51 Join GodEater [0] (n=vircuser@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 20.55.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7177 - why this patch was rejected? very nive feature imho. however may be it needs reimplementation for not needing reinit of db 20.57.05 # so you've actually answered your own question 20.57.19 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host61-171-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.59.49 Quit barrywardell () 21.00.26 # hmm, follow playlist option doesn't work as expected 21.00.42 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.00.46 # if i was in db view last time - it opens db instead of current dir 21.01.18 # Yes, there has been some argument as to where it should take you. 21.01.34 # which is probably why it's not been changed 21.01.42 # since there's divided opinion on it 21.02.10 Join klaxian [0] (n=rgabriel@cpe-72-224-111-124.nycap.res.rr.com) 21.02.13 # well, may be then it must be an option in preferences 21.02.41 # is there any way to set my iriver H10 to stay in UMS mode so that i don't have to start it special each time i want to connect to my computer? 21.02.51 # there's also been some resistance to adding yet more options 21.03.07 # some people feel rockbox has enough already 21.03.15 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 21.03.25 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.04 # Though I'm of the opinion "Follow Playlist" could be removed entirely, and Select-in-WPS always highlights/selects the current song in filetree, while "Files" in the main menu works as normal (non-follow, last known position) 21.04.27 # It makes sense (to me) that "Select" would select the song you see in the WPS. 21.04.27 # I wouldn't mind that option either 21.04.34 # Even though I don't use follow playlist at all. :) 21.05.05 # * GodEater does 21.05.07 Join Pyromancer [0] (i=DeepInTh@c-24-63-23-50.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 21.05.24 # well, follow playlist is usefull to look at albumart image in fullscreen 21.05.29 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.05.54 # well, may be i should apply yet another patch for this feature :) 21.06.00 Join uberushaximus [0] (n=uberusha@68-114-243-20.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) 21.07.35 Part klaxian 21.09.10 # I know this is a fairly redundant question that you must often get 21.09.17 # yay the tx problem was solved, congrats to all guys involved! :) 21.09.25 Quit Arathis ("Verlassend") 21.09.34 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 21.09.41 # but what is the best supported player out there for rockbox? 21.09.54 # uberushaximus: depends on your requirements 21.10.13 # just pointing out a device for my mom ;) 21.10.38 # The Archos, iRiver H1xx, iRiver H3xx, iAudio and Toshiba Gigabeat units are all pretty much 100% 21.10.43 # uberushaximus: do you want FM radio, do you want recording ability, do you want colour / black and white screen ? 21.10.56 # how much storage do you want ? 21.11.01 # how big a unit do you want ? 21.11.04 # and so on and so forth 21.11.10 # I see the ambiguity 21.11.35 # if you can help us out with those questions, we're in a better position to recommend something 21.11.48 # There's also just the BuyersGuide wiki page, no? 21.12.06 # there is indeed 21.12.18 # FM would be nice not required, colour as well, storage isn't a /big/ deal 21.12.44 # * Llorean would like to recommend the Gigabeat F for all your "just want to play music" needs. 21.12.59 # * GodEater would second that recommendation 21.13.08 # given it's also fairly cheap to get hold of :) 21.13.44 # * Soap is a bit worried about future battery replacements for the Gigabeat, though. 21.13.49 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 21.14.02 # Soap: Yeah, I have that fear too. 21.14.23 # do iPod batteries not fit ? 21.14.27 # But I do have my H120 to all back on, and a hope that a new Rockbox disk-based target will show up. 21.14.33 # I don't mind salvaging the PCB from the existing battery, if that is what is required, but I doubt many other people will. 21.14.44 # it needs a pcb ?!? 21.15.23 # for safety reasons many LiIon batteries do their own basic charge control. 21.16.32 # * GodEater looks in the wiki for a picture 21.17.06 # Oh, I can't speak to the gigabeat's in specific - just been following the forum thread. 21.17.09 # they also have short circuit/temperature control most of the time 21.17.26 # * GodEater hasn't noticed this feature on recent ipod batteries 21.17.32 # so they must be differnt 21.18.07 # it'll be inside the protective coating most of the time 21.18.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatInfo?rev=1.1;filename=IMG_1781.jpg 21.18.11 # I see no pcb 21.18.21 # ah 21.18.53 # GodEater: do you know of a good merchant by chance? :) 21.19.01 # selling aforementioned model? 21.19.04 # http://www.electronics-lab.com/articles/Li_Ion_reconstruct/index.html 21.19.10 # 'Inside a Li-Ion pack there is always a safety circuit that consists of four main sections:' 21.19.20 # uberushaximus: I bought mine on ebay 21.19.33 # I see 21.22.29 # I have 2 used f10 for sale with remote :) 21.22.55 # uberushaximus: or buy from toffe82 :) 21.23.26 # toffe82: let me know when you have a working S for sale :) 21.24.05 # I have 2 actually but I don't know if I will sell them , perhaps I will seel one 21.24.58 # * GodEater lines up in the queue to buy 21.24.59 # Have to go, talk to you later 21.25.03 # bye 21.26.57 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-128-247.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 21.28.57 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 21.31.31 Part scorch999 21.35.22 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 21.35.40 Quit GodEater ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 21.40.29 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 21.41.47 Join stefanha [0] (n=stefan@d86-33-9-184.cust.tele2.at) 21.42.39 # Hi, I'm trying -current on iPod nano and it just crashed "Data abort at 40001324". How do I reboot? ;) 21.44.04 # Hold MENU+SELECT 21.44.06 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 21.44.10 # oooh, hold MENU and SELECT http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_restore_my_broken_iPod 21.44.14 # Thanks linuxstb 21.44.38 # When did you last update Rockbox (before today) ? 21.44.56 # Just got -current + loader today. 21.47.13 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 21.48.12 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-128-247.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 21.52.49 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.53.31 Quit stefanha ("leaving") 21.56.36 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 21.57.11 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 21.58.06 Part uberushaximus ("Leaving") 22.00.45 Quit freqmod ("Konversation terminated!") 22.02.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.02.21 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m103h.studby.ntnu.no) 22.04.20 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 22.04.48 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-128-247.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 22.08.13 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 22.15.48 Join Merthsoft [0] (n=Shaun@cpe-76-181-72-229.columbus.res.rr.com) 22.17.12 Join little [0] (n=agnth@69.130.245.219) 22.17.18 # Hi, I was wondering if there were some other way to develop in windows other than cygwin/vmware/coLinux 22.17.46 # 3 different ways is not enough? 22.19.07 # well, I tried VMWare and it just freezes at a black screen right when I start the image, and as far as cywin, I already have dev-c++, which has all the MinGW crap with it... So I didn't know if there was a way using what I already have that would be easier then setting up cygwin 22.19.43 Quit The-Compiler (Remote closed the connection) 22.19.50 # I'd imagine getting dev-c++ to work with MinGW would actually be a good deal harder. 22.20.14 # Merthsoft: you would need to have crosscompiler for dev-c++ which I doubt is possible atm 22.20.34 # yeah, I figure that's the major problem 22.20.47 # Hmm, ok... 22.21.01 # Well, what about the VMWare problem, any ideas about that? 22.21.09 # or perhaps the only problem, if msys is good enough at running the shell scripts 22.21.13 # have you tried booting any other vmware linux images? 22.21.18 # no 22.21.45 # desowin, Bagder: It's possible to convince dev-c++ to use *one* cross-compiler, iiuc, but it's a hassle. 22.22.02 # getting dev-cpp running is acually as easy than a double click 22.22.10 # yeah, but I meant the problem of building the cross-compiler as a native windows tool 22.22.12 # a/than/as 22.22.20 # Bagder: As far as msys is concerned, you can convince it to run rockboxdev.sh (or whatever it's named, I hate my memory) 22.23.30 # It's slow as molasses though, when I tried it, but that was in a Windows image loaded in VMWare. 22.24.09 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.24.50 # so my best bet is probably coLinux? 22.24.56 Join ie [0] (i=3eb4bc86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5907ecbc4613d50a) 22.25.17 # * Bagder likes and prefers native linux ;-) 22.25.20 # * Llorean agrees 22.25.29 # merbanan: I would say, as for now, dual boot, then only linux ;-) 22.25.32 # freebsd also does the trick 22.25.32 # Put linux on a USB stick, and boot from it for development sessions. ;) 22.25.33 # Well, I lack that, so... 22.25.37 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 22.26.15 # Shouldn't every word in menues be capitalized (as in "File Settings" vs "File settings")? The new entry "Show file extensions" isn't capitalized properly IMHO 22.26.31 # I don't really need dev-cpp to be doing anything, I rarely use it, I just would be perfectly fine doing it int he commad line 22.26.38 # desowin: I concur 22.28.46 # * Soap runs a full Beryl'd Ubuntu with games and Rockbox enviroment and room left over on a $35 4GB USB key. 22.29.23 # and CoLinux 22.29.47 # but native is faster, easier, and all that. 22.29.56 # So there's no easy, command line way to do this in windows? 22.30.18 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD52AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.30.26 # not to be a jerk - but there are three easy ways as mentioned before. 22.30.49 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-128-247.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 22.31.00 # the 4th way is: DIY however you like ;-) 22.31.01 # assuming you have at least a Pentium III, and aren't on Vista or XP 64 - vmware should be pretty easy and foolproof. 22.31.15 # Soap: His VMWare isn't completing booting 22.31.15 # Merthsoft: You need a POSIX-like command-line - something Windows doesn't come with natively... 22.31.42 # lame 22.31.50 # Merthsoft: You're more than welcome to come up with a way to get it working in Msys, or Services for Unix, or something else if you think it's so lame. 22.31.52 # * amiconn enjoyed the gread battery time of the ipod 2nd gen under rockbox during the weekend :) 22.31.59 # Merthsoft: That's why I don't use it. 22.32.03 # amiconn: What about fixing things for us PP502x users? ;) 22.32.04 # I was getting to that Llorean...;) I was going to say I bet that is either a corrupt image (unlikely?) or an issue vmware could sort out for you in their forums, or the unofficial IRC channel. 22.32.06 # *great 22.32.40 Part ie 22.32.43 # I got the image from http://download.rockbox.org/vmware/Debian-4.7z 22.32.44 # What is the battery life? Have you done a full test? 22.32.45 Quit hfliezfh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.33.01 # Soap: A corrupt image is rather unlikely since I doubt it'd decompress. 22.33.26 # My processor is a Celeron M 1.5 ghz 22.33.35 # * Soap suspects amiconn will never fix PP 5020 runtime. Can you image the influx of iPod users if _that_ issue were overcome? 22.33.41 # Llorean: point. 22.34.37 # Soap: Plus proper scrollwheel acceleration, support for accessories, broadcom-assisted video playback, itunes database integration, .... 22.34.44 # Merthsoft: you could just get another distro's vmware image, ubuntu or fedora or whatever, and install the build environment on that in minutes 22.34.46 # linuxstb: D'you know what sansapatcher looks for when identifying a device as a sansa? 22.34.59 # But something is wrong with voice on swcodec 22.35.17 # Llorean: Use the source ;) I remember writing a comment listing what checks it does. 22.35.21 Join webguest32 [0] (i=56cb0147@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bf648e900068b1c6) 22.35.26 # With voice enabled, I got 2 crashes within a few minutes on the 2nd gen - and that can't be a dualcore issue 22.35.32 # hi all 22.35.52 # linuxstb: Okay 22.35.56 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.36.23 # hi all 22.36.33 # One prefetch abort at 0xc0000004 (there's no hardware at that address we know of!), and one data abort in the core code range (0x00025??? - unfortunately forgot to write it down) 22.36.33 # Llorean: I've just checked - it's in sansapatcher.c 22.36.36 # i'm new here 22.36.40 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 22.37.08 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.37.18 # linuxstb: Thanks 22.37.23 # Llorean: One possible problem could be the partition type - sansapatcher only seems to check for 0xb, but I think some people have reported 0xc. We should change that... 22.37.46 # is someone here? 22.38.22 # webguest32: Many people are here, you haven't really asked a question though 22.38.31 # webguest32: Yes, but we normally don't say hello to everyone that joins - don't take it personally ;) 22.39.32 # which formats does ipod supports when you use rockbox? 22.39.57 # webguest32: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status 22.40.17 # Soap: See. There's already an example for your theory ;\ 22.42.09 # which formats are supports when you use rockbox in pod 5th gen? 22.42.15 Quit desowin ("use linux") 22.42.30 # i meant for music and movie 22.42.48 # you may forget about movies 22.42.53 # ok thanks 22.43.29 # parafin: For information about video support in Rockbox (and why it's not very good on the ipod video), see here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 22.43.31 # damn it! i asked this question 5 min ago and it just appears now? 22.44.36 # ok 22.44.52 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179053210.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.45.06 # * amiconn curses the irc log reader 22.45.26 # Why can't this thing remember that I want to see joins and quits?? 22.45.56 # linuxstb, i tried it, it's too slow and audio often goes out of sync 22.46.19 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 22.47.01 # what about tag? will the tags apears efficiently if i'm using a tagged flac file? 22.47.07 # ... 22.47.32 # webguest32, may be you should try to read website? 22.48.10 # n1s: I don't understand your 'fix' for calculating the glyph distance 22.48.31 # ... 22.48.37 # imo the log reader should be set to show joins and quits by default 22.48.58 # webguest32: yes it supports flac tags 22.49.09 # Imho the log reader should store the personal selection in a cookie 22.49.23 # * Llorean agrees with amiconn 22.49.45 # it does for not live running logs. e.g. when you look at loader ones... at least for me 22.49.56 Quit cmvjk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.05 # n1s: I think a "pm->font_w = 0;" before the loop would make much more sense 22.51.46 # Imo, the log reader is unusable for the current log (because it lags like hell), but it makes some sense for archived logs (was reading yday's log) 22.51.55 # For current, I always switch to raw immediately 22.52.40 # I just type in the /irc/current.txt url anyway. 22.52.59 # * markun too 22.53.13 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 22.53.59 Quit webguest32 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.56.44 # eek 22.56.48 # Another data abort 22.57.01 Join JerryLange [0] (n=JerryLan@ppp024.hk.centurytel.net) 22.57.48 # i was wondering if somebody would know how to fix my ipod for me. i have an abort code and was wondering what it ment 22.59.35 # Llorean: as amiconn had those data aborts now that he enabled voice, we were wondering if the Nano problems could be voice related too - I think you weren't using voice, right? Worth it to ask the others about it? 23.00.11 # ... in pcmbuf.c:pcmbuf_flush_fillpos() 23.00.38 # pixelma: Does amiconn's problem produce choppy music playback / distortion too? 23.00.46 # nope 23.00.53 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@82.112.141.33) 23.00.55 # These have mostly reported that as an additional symptom 23.00.58 # But I'll ask about voice 23.00.58 # Just random crashes when navigating the menu 23.01.15 # They also all experienced the crashes only during playback, iiuc 23.02.05 # anybody know where i can find out what my abort code means? when i try to browse files on my ipod? 23.02.26 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 23.02.33 # Llorean: but how knows what interactions there are... 23.02.38 # JerryLange: Assuming you mean "Data Abort", the number is the memory address it occurred at 23.02.45 # pixelma: As I said, I'll still go ahead 'n ask. :) 23.03.07 # s/how/who 23.03.11 # all i did was hook it up to a mac as a usb device copied stuff to it and then i disconnected it (this is a windows ipod) 23.06.23 # how does morse input work in keyboard? 23.06.37 Quit Siku () 23.08.15 Quit JerryLange ("Leaving") 23.09.02 # hmm... the live log reader works perfect for me. never lags compared to my irc client 23.09.06 Quit iamben ("leaving") 23.09.54 # and what does third field in apps/keymaps/keymap-ipod.c tables mean? 23.12.09 Quit spiorf_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.12.24 # ok, i see how works morse input 23.12.54 # what does BUTTON_REL and BUTTON_REPEAT mean? 23.15.20 Join Darkideal [0] (i=4cb1c9b6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5780703ba52033fe) 23.16.16 # parafin: release and repeat 23.16.46 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 23.16.47 # amiconn: At least one of the people experiencing the problem on Nano doesn't use voice, nor have voice files. 23.16.57 # Hello, I have a few questions about Rockbox, could anyone answer them please? 23.17.06 # Darkideal: yes 23.17.08 # thats 1 23.17.43 # lol, alright, then 2 more. First, Anyone know if the Sansa c250 can handle Rockbox? and if so, do they recommend it? 23.18.19 # c250? no. e250, yes. 23.18.21 # Bagder, and what about that third field in apps/keymaps/ ? 23.18.58 # Darkideal: on the c250 there's only some very early work atm, the e250 runs rockbox just fine 23.19.05 # parafin: I don't remember right now 23.19.34 Join dave [0] (n=dave@ip-58.62.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net) 23.19.47 # Hi all. My nano housing/screen is scratched to crap and its 1rst generation 23.19.51 # does anyone know where i can buy one? 23.19.52 # Hmm, do you know if there will be a c250 version any time soon? or near the future? the factory firmware for c250 is...ughh..I'd try anything to replace it. 23.20.09 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 23.20.37 # Darkideal: someone is working on c250, but it will take time, nobody knows how long.. 23.20.41 # Darkideal: we can never tell such things for sure of course, but if everything is fine and dandy we might have a c200 port in the future 23.20.59 # sigh why do companies have 2nd generation nano housing 23.20.59 # can someone have a look at: http://pastebin.ca/raw/663750 And tell me what is wrong with it? The error is at the bottom. 23.21.03 # but nto first generation 23.21.22 # Awesome! Thanks for the help! I'll be looking forward to it, if/and when it does come out 23.22.18 Quit Darkideal ("Thanks for the help Bagder, iamben, domonoky") 23.23.43 # anyone? Has anyone ever replaced the housign on 1rst generation nano? 23.23.49 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.23.55 # i know this is the wrong site but it is rockbox and ...ppl have nanos :) 23.23.58 # ddalton: you use the variable "reboot" in cancel_shutdown(), this function doesnt have a variable called "reboot" 23.27.25 Join cmvjk [0] (n=blah@223.34.143.24.cm.sunflower.com) 23.27.55 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 23.28.23 Quit atsea- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.30.34 Quit ompaul ("night all") 23.34.15 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.34.28 # markun: agreed, I couldn't have been thinking clearly, proper fix comitted 23.34.44 # ok 23.34.46 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 23.35.51 Nick little is now known as r4v5 (n=agnth@69.130.245.219) 23.36.11 # so if this patch uses the variable reboot. What should I replace it with? I am working on p6733 23.36.26 # i guess FS#7623 can be closed then. 23.37.32 # PaulJam: have you tried it out? 23.37.49 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 23.38.37 # n1s: not yet, but if i remenber correctly i use the same fix in my build, and there it works. 23.38.56 # Ok, will close then 23.39.38 # btw, why svn status doesn't notice .rej files but sees .orig files...? 23.42.57 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 23.43.04 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 23.43.58 Quit kratonator ("Leaving") 23.44.30 Quit Buschel () 23.49.16 # Ok, guys, I just got done setting up cygwin, but now there's a problem... When I do which arm-elf-gcc it says it's not a command 23.49.36 # n1s: just tested with the latest official build. everything works as expected. thanks for fixing. 23.49.51 # Merthsoft: put it in your PATH variable. 23.49.58 # put what? 23.50.11 Quit PaulJam (".") 23.50.15 # I believe that is mentioned on the page for how to do the cygwin install 23.50.21 # PaulJam: thanks for testing, that bugreport had been sitting around in the tracker for almost a year :-) 23.50.38 # I'm there right now and it doesn't 23.51.11 # ah, nvm, I was on the one with screenshots and it doesn 23.51.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment#Step_4_Add_the_cross_compiler_di 23.52.01 # What is wrong with this? MENUITEM_FUNCTION(do_shutdown_item, 0, ID2P(LANG_SHUTDOWN), there seems to be a lang_shutdown in english.lang. But I get a compile error on this line. 23.52.04 # that should be put on the other one too 23.52.28 # Merthsoft: if only wikis were editable 23.53.09 Join jonno_ [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.54.12 # *g* 23.55.42 # ddalton: you need to include the string for your target it's only included for targets with "soft_shutdown"