--- Log for 09.09.107 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 15 hours ago 00.04.18 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 00.04.53 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 00.05.27 # does the flipit plugin compile? it doesn't for me. 00.06.13 # The build table shows that it does 00.07.02 # I'm missing dependency files for it, flipit_cursor.h and flipit_tokens.h 00.07.21 # and I don't see them when browsing svn, either. 00.08.07 # Those files are generated when building bitmaps 00.08.19 Join sofianbabai [0] (n=sof@gar31-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 00.08.51 # hello all! 00.08.56 # A plain 'make' of latest svn does definitely work 00.09.34 # are there some sansa guru in here ? :) 00.09.43 # sofianbabai: what sansa? 00.09.56 Quit rasher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.09.57 Nick rasher_ is now known as rasher (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 00.09.57 # amiconn: I figured.. I'm just wondering as to why those files would have disappeared. 00.10.33 # sansa e200 : just wanted to know if htere is a reset button on this one. i got problems to get it recognized by my xp box :) 00.10.35 # maxkelley: They don't "disappear"... They just don't "appear" until you run the plain make. 00.10.58 # so, I need to build the normal portion before building a uisim? 00.11.17 # If you make a sim as per the normal instructions, they should be generated. 00.11.52 # I'm building UIsim right now, and it fails at "no rule to make target flipit_cursor.h" 00.12.02 # this uisim is for the c200. 00.12.25 # Plugins don't compile for c200 right now 00.12.26 # a reset button or something allowing me to get my usb back lol 00.12.44 # maxkelley: Ah, as amiconn said, the c200 isn't really "done" yet. 00.12.46 # amiconn: I know, I'm working on making them. I'm adding the proper keymaps for all of them. 00.13.01 # I talked to lowlight about it, and he told me to do so. 00.13.15 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 00.13.15 # sofianbabai: reboot into the original firmware for us. 00.13.16 # *usb. 00.13.28 # take a look at http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-09/0067.shtml 00.13.28 # Then you need to make the necessary bitmaps and enable them in th erespective SOURCES files as well 00.13.36 # ah, ok. 00.13.38 # After that the related .h files will appear 00.14.00 # but the unit seems to be freezed :( 00.14.11 # sofianbabai: Hold the power button for 15-20 seconds 00.14.15 # ok 00.14.20 # i'll try that 00.15.25 # it's fine ! thx ! 00.16.25 # and a last question: is there someone here who have built sapi4 voicefile with success for a sansa player or any other 00.16.41 # i'm trying to do that under cygwin and i have some problmes :) 00.16.47 # problems* 00.17.14 Join kkurbju1 [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-166-49-171.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 00.18.02 Quit kkurbjun (Nick collision from services.) 00.18.07 Nick kkurbju1 is now known as kkurbjun (n=kkurbjun@c-67-166-49-171.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 00.18.17 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@bas3-montreal28-1177918709.dsl.bell.ca) 00.19.07 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.20.22 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@bas3-montreal28-1177918709.dsl.bell.ca) 00.21.45 Part agm3nt 00.22.11 # sofianbabai: What kind of problems? 00.22.28 # SAPI4 takes ages, but apart from that it should work 00.22.30 # ok for sapi 4 we'll see 00.23.39 # but another one lol: is there a way to convert the charset of a lang file under cygwin ... some kind of command. the voice file i'm building is in french and the utf-8 chars are really bad pronounced obbiously 00.23.41 # SAPI5 works far far better 00.24.16 # your right amiconn but many blind users like me prefer the eloquence voice 00.24.17 # Are you using the latest scripts from svn? 00.24.41 # yes i'm using the lastes script 00.25.19 # Then utf-8 shouldn't be a problem. The only problem I could imagine is that the problematic strings are *not* proper utf-8 00.25.39 # i can convert my charset using windows but i would like to automate the process 00.26.06 # You shouldn't convert the charset. The voice build system needs utf-8 now 00.27.20 # amicon: ho my I don't know how to do that. the bad pronounced string are things like é ê etc 00.28.32 # All .lang files are utf-8, and the voice build needs utf-8. It should work with no extra steps 00.28.55 # don't you have a few minutes to look a the francais.lang file ? 00.29.05 # If there is a problem, it's either due to a mistake in the .lang file, or due to a pronunciation problem in the tts engine 00.29.20 # sory i'm newbie just tring to help french users to have a new voice file lol :) 00.29.24 # looks like valid utf-8 here 00.29.50 # do you have an example string which doesn't work well for you? (so i can check if it's using non utf-8 chars) 00.30.09 # Pronunciation problems aren't uncommon; take a look at the at&t enigne specific replacement list in voice.pl 00.30.18 # (I mean for german) 00.31.30 # difficult to give you an example since i can hear the mistake only in the voice file 00.32.04 # but it seems that the accentuated letters have problems and we have many of those damn things in french :) 00.32.26 # and they all look ok :) (at least up to 15% of the francais.lang file) 00.32.51 # German also has such letters (the umlauts), and they work fine after I added the conversion from utf-8 00.33.17 # when i was generating my voice file under windows, i had to convert the charset first ... really don't know where the problems comes from 00.33.23 # Perhaps I should try to actually build a german voice with sapi4 and compare (the at&t voices are both sapi5 and sapi4) 00.34.03 # amikonn: my sapi 4 script is not working proprerly :( sory 00.34.07 # sofianbabai: I really don't understand where you have to convert the charset. The .lang files are utf-8, and the voice build needs utf-8 00.34.40 # If you convert the .lang to something else, it will of course produce wrong results for accented letters 00.35.27 # really dunno amikonn but when i have coverted my lang file to iso 8859 when i was building my voices files under windows the problem disappears 00.36.01 # Are you talking about the old scripts in the wiki? 00.36.18 # yes i was generating with the old script on the wiki 00.36.32 # Those needed conversion to iso 8859-1. But voices built with those scripts won't work anymore 00.37.08 # gosh! so what do i have to do :) i'm lost 00.37.11 # The new systems is just svn checkout, configure for voice build, 'make voice'. Nothing else. 00.37.21 Quit billytwowilly (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.37.33 Part k-man ("Leaving") 00.37.44 # i've tried with two tts engines acapela and scansoft, same result 00.38.25 # The old scripts in the wiki should be deleted 00.38.39 # amiconn: yes for that, it's ultra simple to use no problems 00.39.28 # right now, i don't use the old script anymore, only cygwin 00.41.13 # i may try on another system so. it means more hours installing cygwin lol 00.43.23 Quit iamben ("leaving") 00.44.27 Join Noah0504 [0] (n=noah@66.141.89.20) 00.44.52 # Anyone home? 00.45.21 # yup 00.46.34 # So, I've been trying to figure out an easy way to keep music sycned between my iPod and my computer while running RockBox. Should I just use something like Banshee that will add music to the iTunes database? 00.47.22 # petur: The crash you observed - I guess that it happens on track change or when skipping... 00.47.41 # nope, at start of playback 00.48.25 # Then I have no explanation 00.49.07 # The crash on track change/skip is a known problem on 64 bit sims. Happens with all codecs if the next track uses the same track as the current one 00.49.19 # Erm, the same codec 00.49.42 # my cpu may be 64bit, my ubuntu is plain x86, no 64bit 00.50.00 # (insert 'but' in the middle) 00.50.09 # aha 00.50.51 # Somehow I overlooke dthat you run x86. But then I don't understand your remark either 00.51.07 # mp3 worked on 32 bit before, and also did after my commit 00.51.48 # Noah0504: rockbox doesn't use the iTunes database. 00.51.50 # Well it already crashed before your commit ;) 00.51.51 # Maybe jhMikeS' commit causes those problems - couldn't try this on 32 bit linux myself (only 64 bit linux and win32) 00.52.07 # Then you might have a problem with your sdl installation 00.52.31 # hmmmm I'm not a linux guru :/ 00.52.48 # can you force a re-install? 00.53.01 # Sound support on linux is a pita if you ask me 00.53.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.54.07 # petur: what distro do you use ? apt based ? 00.54.17 # ubuntu 00.54.28 # so debian I guess 00.54.34 # then sudo apt-get install --reinstall should work 00.54.57 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.54.58 # I don't think that a package is damaged 00.55.04 # dionoea: But it can read it by having the Rockbox database enabled. Other than that. I can't think of a good way to keep things synced. 00.55.27 # It's most probably a configuration issue (and that's the pita part) 00.55.53 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@host86-136-40-165.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 00.56.30 # petur: What sdl sound package do you use? 00.56.47 # where can I see? ;) 00.57.12 Join DarkStylist [0] (n=DarkStyl@c213-100-135-215.swipnet.se) 00.57.18 Join webguest18 [0] (i=4c10ea95@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-15fba280e4778275) 00.57.31 # Guys is s1mp3 project dead? 00.57.48 # There are (on debian) libsdl1.2debian-alsa, libsdl1.2debian-arts, libsdl1.2debian-esd, libsdl1.2debian-nas and libsdl1.2debian-oss 00.58.09 # While alsa should be de-facto standard, only the -oss variant works for me 00.58.09 # DarkStylist: That'd be a good thing to ask the s1mp3 project... 00.58.17 # hi i have a question i just got 2 new ipods the ipod touch and the ipod classic with 160GB is there a way to get rockbox on them?? 00.58.20 # (i.e. lets the sim play sound and not crash) 00.58.40 # yea they never posted a distro of their os 00.58.42 # webguest18: no 00.58.45 # they are brand new i havent even opened them. 00.58.49 # oh 00.58.54 # and there probably won't be for a long time 00.58.55 # * amiconn should perhaps try different variants again 00.59.15 # will there ever be a way to put rockbox in them? 00.59.23 Join Steve132 [0] (i=84aaa38c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-400c1356d4f621c1) 00.59.26 # that s1mp3 mp4 players that hard? 00.59.41 # I seem to have the alsa one installed 00.59.55 # webguest18: since it's entirely new hardware (as far as i know) compared to previous versions .... i doubt that anyone can answer that question 01.00.14 # who knows if there be a way the s1mp3 hardware is pretty alien 01.00.19 # new + undocumented hardware 01.00.19 # oh ok thanks anyway 01.00.33 # i have another question 01.01.10 # i got rockbox on my ipod video 390GB about 2 months ago shoul i install it again 01.01.12 # unless someone dissasembles the s1mp3 firmware and makes sence for cpu parts 01.01.15 # I am looking into writing a plugin...does anyone know how hard it would be to port a subset of libbz2 to rockbox? 01.01.20 # i ment 30GB 01.01.24 # sorry 01.01.56 # petur: Alsa should be default if the soundcard is handled by alsa. However, while my sound card *is* handled by alsa, the libsdl-alsa variant didn't work for me 01.02.18 # But -oss works because (iiuc) alsa emulates oss 01.02.49 # Steve132: depends on the memory requirements. zlib should be doable. Don't know about bz2. 01.03.28 # amiconn: do I need to recompile after swapping? I guess not... 01.03.32 # zlib has a very low memory footprint decoder (as an example in their source code) 01.03.36 # no 01.04.14 # most plugins only have 512 kB of memory available (someone correct me if i'm wrong) 01.04.18 # now it crashes even before it shows the peakmeters :( 01.04.20 # -esd crashes here 01.04.54 # dionoea: Not most. All, unless they steal the audio buffer (no music). Though the hwcodec players it's a different situation entirely (32k if I recall) 01.05.37 # amiconn: sim won't close too, how did you force close? 01.06.05 # You need to kill the process. I uses the gnome system monitor 01.06.07 # dionoea: Has anyone done either one before? it would be nice to be able to link in a library if it is used elsewhere in the OS 01.06.09 # *used 01.06.20 # Steve132: not that i know. 01.06.44 # amiconn: got it... just like taskman on w32 01.06.49 # yes 01.07.13 # Linux purists will say 'bah', but I don't care... 01.07.37 # Steve132: the small version of zlib i was thinking about is available in contrib/puff/ in the zlib source 01.08.04 # ok...second question....the rockbox build system is really good, but non-standard...are there any good examples in the source of porting a library to the build system? 01.08.10 # for use in a plugin? 01.08.27 # audio codecs maybe ... but they're not really plugins 01.09.08 # hmm...ok 01.09.10 # thanks :) 01.09.14 # this is the interesting sentence in the puff readme: "puff.c may also be useful in applications where code size or memory usage is a very limited resource, and speed is not as important." 01.09.24 # since it's one file only it shouldn't be too hard to port 01.09.27 # oh yeah 01.09.28 # wow 01.09.31 # thats perfect 01.09.36 # neato 01.09.36 # thatnks 01.09.38 # *thanks 01.09.44 # you're welcome. 01.09.56 Join Butsumetsu [0] (n=wqd@124.104.151.191) 01.10.04 Quit Steve132 ("CGI:IRC") 01.12.31 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.14.02 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 01.17.46 Quit sofianbabai (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.18.23 # petur: Looks like changing the sdl audio output flavour requires a reboot 01.18.39 # ah.. will do that 01.18.46 # Nasty thing... 01.19.38 # Perhaps it would suffice to restart some daemons... if I knew which ones... 01.20.19 # it's rebooting already... 01.23.11 # I need to use -oss and the esd disabled in gnome 01.23.31 Quit Frazz ("Leaving") 01.23.47 # All other combinations will either crash (-oss with esd running, -alsa), or not work properly (-esd with esd running) 01.23.58 # * ender` yawns 01.24.43 Quit Genre9mp3 () 01.25.43 Quit qweru ("moo") 01.25.56 # what's esd and how do you disable it? 01.26.17 # esound daemon 01.26.31 # enlightenment (and gnome?)'s sound mixer daemon 01.27.06 # and probably by running the esd or esound initscript with 'down' as the parameter (and removing it from your default runlevel or whatever, if youwant it not tos tart on next boot) 01.27.18 # alternatively just finding the running process and killing it 01.27.53 # of course there's probably some distro-specific means of removing it from your default startup 01.28.04 # There is an option in gnome to disable esd 01.28.13 # killed the esd process.. still crashes... 01.28.18 # System->Settings->Audio (?) 01.28.34 # petur: did it stay killed? 01.28.52 # gnome or your distro's init for it might make itrespawn orsomething 01.28.53 # It requires to restart gnome to take effect 01.29.06 # ah 01.29.07 # * petur gives up.. to much other work to do 01.29.07 # thats funky 01.29.14 # ze: And yes, esd is also gnome's sound daemon 01.30.14 Quit funky ("leaving") 01.30.49 # now that dmix is configured by default, it'd seem logical for the desktop environments and such just to drop sound daemons and more tightly integrate with alsa directly 01.30.59 # well... if OS ever gets its act together linux might be ready for desktop in a few years... I'd rather have one working tool than 20 half-working ones + the choice... 01.31.07 # but that whole kindat hing is kindof a mess, but oh well far OT 01.31.19 Quit ender` (" Theory of relativity in practice: How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you are on.") 01.31.24 # ze: dmix? 01.31.33 # amiconn: alsa's built-in software mixing 01.31.43 # How would I configure that? 01.31.49 # or is it a plugin? either way, its standard 01.31.57 # amiconn: with recent versions of alsa, it's setup by default 01.32.08 # Aha, hmm 01.32.13 # just tell alsa apps to use the 'default' device, and they'll all get mixed automatically 01.32.27 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.32.31 # unless you've changed your setup with asound.conf or asoundrc 01.32.33 # * amiconn is running debian/amd64 unstable 01.33.01 Quit SiM99 () 01.33.15 # i think it started being setup by default as of alsa 1.0.9 or something likethat 01.33.19 # I'm hungry.. 01.33.39 # afaict, its been in the last several versions 01.34.14 Quit webguest18 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.34.47 # of course anything accessing hw:0 or plughw:0 directly will bypass the mixing 'default' device and hog it still 01.35.57 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@e178108249.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.36.48 # hello 01.37.02 # where do i find the svn activity of the last days? 01.37.09 # i cant find it on the new site 01.37.25 # yes you can 01.37.31 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.37.54 # Are the "since 4 weeks" and "since august 2006" links somewhere? 01.37.57 # click 'subversion' 01.38.18 # i did 01.38.20 # linuxstb: good spotting, they're gone 01.38.24 # <[aB]DaRkNeSS> rockbox is the shizzle 01.38.54 # yes they are gone 01.39.24 # there are just the last 10 changes listed, but nothing more 01.39.50 # The page is still there - http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html 01.39.56 # (it's just not linked to...) 01.41.26 # can you fix thatß 01.41.28 # ? 01.41.37 # * linuxstb just notices the front page also doesn't have the svn log messages... 01.42.09 # kugel: Only Zagor, Bagder or LinusN can... 01.42.18 # k 01.43.14 # lets hope they do so 01.48.59 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.49 Join k-man [0] (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) 02.01.43 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 02.02.01 Quit obo ("bye") 02.04.18 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.07.25 Join RudMan [0] (n=RudMan@ool-182fb504.dyn.optonline.net) 02.07.33 Quit kkurbjun (Nick collision from services.) 02.07.44 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.07.52 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-166-49-171.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.08.51 Join Phalangees_ [0] (i=4cc7a7aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-9276d5da1a8336d3) 02.14.09 Quit Phalangees_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.14.34 # seems like I've managed to merge/adapt the sansa scrollwheel-acceleration to iPOD (at least tested on 5.5G) 02.15.03 # need to tweak the parameters now 02.19.06 # wanted to ask something.... when it comes to applying a patch do I still need to rewrite a code or does the cygwin does that for me? 02.20.41 # Butsumetsu: A patch is designed to automate the code-changing part 02.20.54 # So you apply the patch, and compile the modified source 02.23.04 # aahhh so actual coding knowledge is needed damn 02.23.28 Join decayedcell [0] (i=792cfd7c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6d9eeb8c2956f8e0) 02.23.49 # Im asking because im looking at the wiki and it looks simple enough 02.24.56 # ... I just said that NO coding knowledge is required. 02.25.22 # in the recent activity page http://www.rockbox.org/recent.shtml how do i check the last 4 weeks of commits to SVN 02.26.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html 02.27.30 # oh ok sorry misread that 02.27.47 # thanks for the help 02.36.50 Quit kkurbjun (Nick collision from services.) 02.37.10 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-166-49-171.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.39.07 Quit darkless (Remote closed the connection) 02.41.32 # Bagder, is there a need for another build server? 02.52.57 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.53.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.56.11 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 02.59.10 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 02.59.56 Quit Buschel () 03.01.25 Join elcasey [0] (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 03.01.59 Quit RudMan (Remote closed the connection) 03.05.09 Join scorche` [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.05.54 # * DarkStylist tries to revive s1mp3 project 03.07.01 Join floam [0] (n=flaom@71.237.241.190) 03.07.14 Join ByronFortescue [0] (n=ByronFor@h211096.upc-h.chello.nl) 03.07.22 # anyone know what main chip the new ipod classics are using yet? there's this (http://www.ifixit.com/Parts/stream/4/large/9-1.jpg) but I can't make it out 03.07.24 # hello there 03.09.01 # I was wondering, I would like to shuffle my whole 'library' on the iPod, one of the features of the original software on the iPod, how could I achieve this in rockbox? 03.09.34 Join iamben_ [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 03.09.52 # ByronFortescue: are you using the file browser or database? 03.10.20 # database, but I think I already found it, just playing one of the tracks in the all tracks list, and then turning on the shuffle function 03.10.29 # yep 03.10.44 # or insert shuffled from the context menu of the "tracks" item in the db 03.11.34 Quit Noah0504 ("Lost terminal") 03.11.38 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.11.44 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.12.37 # does anybody know how to get a 5.5g ipod to output some random stuff from its rs232 port? 03.12.57 Nick iamben_ is now known as iamben (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 03.12.58 # Is this a bug, or is something wrong with my settings, when I scroll trough a playlist, it goes well, but after a few cycles the scrolling slows down and I feel the disk spin? 03.14.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 03.14.27 Quit scorche` (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/") 03.15.23 Join RudMan [0] (n=RudMan@ool-182fb504.dyn.optonline.net) 03.15.27 Join scorche` [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.15.29 # and is there anyway to get a playlist out of iTunes into rockbox? 03.15.47 # to get = of getting (sorry, it's late around these parts of the world ^_^ _ 03.15.50 # there may be a plugin on the tracker to do that... but i dont think so 03.17.16 # ok cheers for that 03.17.23 # there were a couple of threads on the forums that describes how to do that 03.17.27 # and do you know anything about my previous question? 03.17.59 # ByronFortescue: turn on dircache 03.18.34 # dircache? How do I turn it on? ^_^ 03.19.19 # you should look around in Settings 03.19.20 # settings > generel > system > disk > dircache 03.19.41 # awesome, cheers 03.22.08 Join Pwner5889 [0] (i=4ce5b631@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6924e886520a819c) 03.22.52 Quit Pwner5889 (Client Quit) 03.23.05 # hmm 03.23.52 # reboot to enable it 03.24.03 # doesn't change that much really 03.24.10 # or should I wait for it to be cached? 03.24.30 # no, it shuold be "instant" 03.24.47 # do your files have non-latin characters? 03.25.09 # nope 03.25.55 Nick elcasey is now known as RonJeremy (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 03.25.58 # umm... then the disk access shouldnt be happning.. 03.26.07 # well 03.26.12 # I have no disk access this time 03.26.22 # time to try patching >__> 03.26.34 # but it still runs slow after I run my thumb down the clickwheel a couple of times 03.26.45 # maybe it has something to do with my scrolling settings? 03.26.46 Nick RonJeremy is now known as elcasey (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 03.31.52 # btw, it only happens during playback 03.37.26 # in regards to patching.... when cygwin is asking me which file to patch is it an indication i used the wrong -p#? 03.38.11 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 03.39.02 # do you rockbox guys know why porting rockbox from s1mp3 project stopped? 03.39.23 # I didnt know it started 03.39.40 # that was what they said long ago 03.40.14 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 03.40.22 # "they"? 03.40.35 # im bringing back the concept trying convince them to modify rockbox to load s1mp3 native drivers dumped by some resource editor 03.40.40 # yes the devs 03.40.47 # what devs? 03.41.20 # #s1mp3 devs have to mail em since many of em are not in the channel 03.41.30 Quit ByronFortescue ("leaving") 03.42.11 # According to the THC Ministry, the references to cannabis as an ingredient of the holy anointing oil is actually from the Torah (Five Books of Moses), Exodus 30:23. The plant is called in Hebrew "kaneh bosem" (literally "fragrant cane"). Contrary to the translation of the Septuagint, and supported by both Aramaic translations (the Targum and the Peshita), this is identified as the cannabis plant. 03.42.22 # er woops 03.42.23 # wrong chan 03.44.05 # the s1mp3 os becomes larger all the time because chinese s1mp3osdevs compile 1 version over another that could be used to an advantage if the players could be listed and autoed as profiles 03.44.22 # with rockbox 03.46.33 # a rockbox using resources from s1mp3firmware in other words 03.46.53 # a more natural approach i presume 03.47.21 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e93c06d00fbcbdf) 03.47.56 # development begins on monday as i got a few intrested s1mp3 forum guys , anyone from rockbox intrested to give a hand? 03.48.36 # Any aussies here ? Harvey Norman are clearing out X30 Toshiba gigabeats for $222 :D almost half retail price ;) (bought mine today to give rockbox a go) 03.50.01 # has anyone got the wikipedia plugin working here? 03.51.36 Nick elcasey is now known as zsh (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 03.52.03 Quit scorche` ("Leaving") 03.52.27 Nick zsh is now known as cdda2ogg (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 03.52.52 Part DarkStylist 03.56.17 Nick cdda2ogg is now known as elcasey (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 04.10.02 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@nat01-southtowers-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 04.31.42 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 04.36.26 Quit k-man (Connection timed out) 04.40.33 Quit perrikwp ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.41.29 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 04.45.42 # im ozzie DiceRy 04.48.00 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.50.20 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.53.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.57.52 Nick nearn is now known as nurn (n=burn@ip65-44-116-168.z116-44-65.customer.algx.net) 04.58.18 # any of you have a scale and an empty beer bottle? 04.58.29 # maybe 04.58.58 # im going to put up signs to offer close to equal deposit value for broken glass, just to get it out of the grass and fields 04.59.21 # i guess i should buy a scale 04.59.24 Nick elcasey is now known as casey_zzz (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 04.59.33 # JdGordon, same 04.59.44 # cendres: This is #Rockbox, please stay on topic. 05.00.27 # Llorean: i understand, but this is an unusual thing im asking and no where to ask. google doesn't know weight, just volume 05.00.31 # so after six hours of hardware hacking 05.00.44 # i still have no working sio 05.01.14 # gonna reverse something and write a program to output some char from the port over and over so i can get it working 05.01.43 # cendres: Just because you can't find another place to ask, doesn't mean you should ask here. I've never understood that train of logic, but people offer it as an excuse a lot. 05.02.03 # i asked it in many channels, not just here 05.02.10 # pls dont be upset 05.02.45 # In the future, why not just follow the guidelines then? 05.03.14 # i actually have a question kinda relating to rockbox... 05.04.01 # so no idea yet what chip it is on the new ipod classic (or the nano? I'm betting they're the same) 05.04.13 # floam: I think they've narrowed it down to a sigmatel chip 05.04.23 # im in the compiling process in applying a patch... after executing make i get a "command not found" for a arm-elf-gcc eventhough i selected it during the installation process 05.04.32 # this is in cygwin btw 05.05.21 # interesting 05.05.22 # to a specific one? or to being "a sigmatel chip" 05.05.34 # im not trying to spite the channel etiquette, but there is no channel for this question. i understand that you don't want this channel to turn into #dating or #politics, but i think some slack is fair 05.05.47 # floam: I think the model number's out there, but it's not terribly useful on its own 05.05.49 # go to #rockbox-community then 05.06.02 # /join #freenode 05.06.15 # eerrr, I got some weird character stuck between my / 05.06.43 # cendres: And we think that this is an on-topic channel. "No channel for this question" is not an excuse to spam. I bet there's no channel for actual spam either. 05.06.59 Join kkurbju1 [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-166-49-171.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.07.01 # Llorean: it's useful if I just want to read the datasheet and get an idea of how much (if any) more powerful this might be than what it replaces 05.07.10 Quit kkurbjun (Nick collision from services.) 05.07.14 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.07.23 Nick kkurbju1 is now known as kkurbjun (n=kkurbjun@c-67-166-49-171.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.07.37 # cendres: This channel is logged for developers to search, if everyone decided that they could ask non-Rockbox questions so long as there wasn't another channel for them, the logs would quickly fill with useless fluff, so please just respect the rules as they're stated. 05.08.03 # floam: That's the thing, I believe there wasn't a datasheet found. 05.08.09 # oh 05.08.28 # Llorean: okay, that makes sense 05.08.38 # well then that's not terribly useful :) 05.08.47 # cendres: The rules do exist for a reason, they aren't just because we're anal. ;) 05.09.10 # Besides, we at least offer a channel for off-topic stuff, if you'd read the topic... 05.09.46 # :\ 05.10.31 # you're right 05.11.12 # success :D 05.11.33 # JdGordon's modified e200tool works 05.11.41 # damnit still getting errors during make process 05.14.34 # Butsumetsu, did you change your $PATH correctly? 05.15.16 # i probably didnt but which instruction are you referring to? 05.15.32 # is it the adding cross-compiler path? 05.15.39 # yeah 05.15.44 Quit bb (Nick collision from services.) 05.15.51 Join bb_ [0] (n=bb@unaffiliated/bb) 05.16.01 # kk ill give it a try thx 05.16.12 # thanks* 05.17.34 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 05.23.11 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.23.20 Part ddalton 05.26.27 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.29.55 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 05.30.07 # yeah, these are totally both the same chip 05.30.35 # http://aarongyes.com/static/d/nanoandclassic.jpg 05.30.47 # nothing obvious to me identifying either as sigmatel, though 05.31.40 # I was thinking Samsung when I said Sigmatel. 05.32.10 # And I think it's more assumption that they're Samsung than testing 05.32.25 # Sigmatel is the shuffle, iirc. 05.33.02 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 05.59.48 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 06.14.46 Quit Butsumetsu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.17.38 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@bas3-montreal28-1177918709.dsl.bell.ca) 06.18.20 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007073113]") 06.47.19 Quit Febs_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.52.45 Join chrisjs169|brb [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-128-205.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.53.23 Quit chrisjs169 (Nick collision from services.) 06.53.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.53.29 Nick chrisjs169|brb is now known as chrisjs169 (n=jack@unaffiliated/chrisjs169) 06.55.37 Quit RudMan (Remote closed the connection) 07.21.59 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 07.30.46 Join scorche|ltop [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.57.13 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 07.57.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.57.21 # I wish plugins actually used the PLA_* keymappings. 07.58.24 # Would make it a hell of a lot easier for me. 08.04.21 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net) 08.05.58 # jhMikeS: You mean rockboy, not rockbox...? ;) 08.12.49 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c220-237-57-32.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.16.40 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B165F6.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.17.18 # jhMikeS: Now there's the opposite effect on linux: The sim draws so little cpu power that buffering takes ages, and playback skips like hell ("sdl_audio_callback: No Data" every few seconds) 08.17.37 # Heh. 08.18.51 # amiconn: say what? I test on VMWare and things go ok. I've nowhere to put a straight linux install. 08.19.04 # That's on 64 bit 08.19.42 # and I meant rockboy, indeed :) 08.19.48 # Closing the app works now though 08.21.16 # through a nasty fix...terminating threads on anything in that manner is rather iffy. 08.21.38 # did you watch the audiobuffer screen? 08.21.46 # no 08.22.33 # Gnome system monitor shows 0% cpu for that skipping sim btw 08.23.39 # Why is plugin use of the audiobuffer an all-or-nothing thing? 08.25.52 # jhMikeS: Hmm, I can't check the audio debug screen. As soon as playback started, the ui is completely unresponsive 08.25.54 # amiconn: obviously SDL_Delay(0) works as thread yield like it should so that will need limiting 08.26.10 # will it ever finish buffering? 08.26.14 # yes 08.26.21 # and it's ok after that? 08.26.29 # It does (from what I can tell from the console output) 08.26.31 # nope 08.27.24 # It's only after buffering finished that it even starts to play - and then it skipis and skips and .. 08.27.46 # UI is unresponsive from the moment I select a file 08.27.59 # I suppose a counter could go back on the SDL_Delay call to find a good number. No reason to use 1. I also don't want to deny 100% utilization if needed. 08.28.48 # wps also doesn't update 08.30.15 Join chris__ [0] (n=chris@CABLE-72-53-22-61.cia.com) 08.30.35 # I'll put the counter back in but with SDL_Delay(0) instead. It should be fine with VWWare and the like no matter. 08.31.24 # If I take out the SDL_Delay(0), it works again 08.31.39 # meh. 08.31.43 # I thought it was starving other threads without it 08.31.50 # yet another magical compiling error. 08.32.12 # No it doesn't. It did because of the peakmeters calling sleep(0), and sleep(0) wasn't behaving like on target 08.32.48 # It might though in another situation than playback 08.33.18 # SDL_CondWait(c, m, 0) probably doesn't give up remaining quantum 08.33.51 Quit My_Sic (Client Quit) 08.33.55 # I.e. my sleep() fix commit fixed playback on linux/amd64 with peakmetered wps (no excessive start delay, and no 100% cpu load) 08.34.29 # CPU load was around 7% - same with your more accurate version now 08.34.51 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.35.14 # So what's the op. about SDL_Delay? Take it out or use a counter to balance it? 08.35.53 # In switch_thread that is. 08.36.22 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 08.38.30 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4D46.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.38.53 # Hmm, and on VMware + linux/x86 I have the same skipping problem as on 64 bit... 08.39.17 # Disabling the SDL_Delay(0) helps there too 08.41.21 # so just dump it alltogether? 08.43.07 Quit eigma () 08.44.06 # you're using a debian image, right? I don't know the fact I'm also using XP/VMWare+debian/x86 indicates anything. I just want to get this tuned back up asap. 08.46.37 # Yes, I'm using debian 08.46.42 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.47.03 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4D46.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.49.03 # amiconn: are you checking something out re: a counter for SDL_Delay(0) or anything? c'mon, help me out here :) 08.49.58 # No counter atm 08.50.31 # I'm trying to find out whether mpegplayer will work without the SDL_Delay(0) - but on 64 bit mpegplayer just loads the file and bails out 08.51.07 # On windows it draws 100% cpu power, but plays fine 08.52.46 # Isn't something not working with libmad on 64 bit? 08.52.46 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.53.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.53.33 # Libmad is working now.... 08.53.43 # I fixed that yesterday 08.54.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html (7 Sep 23:45) 08.54.45 # And if that bug were still there, it would crash, not just bail out 08.55.06 # I'm worried that SDL_Delay(0) at all, ever will potentially starve other threads in the sim. 08.58.05 # oh, btw, which sim are you running? 08.59.43 # On linux/x86-vmware, mpegplayer works without the SDL_Delay(0), but it doesn't keep up 08.59.51 # H300 09.02.25 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 09.02.38 # anyone have an idea how to put the e200r bootloader/installer into the build system? 09.03.28 # Isn't the bootloader the same as e200? 09.03.55 # yes, but there is a installer "bootloader" which needs to be built before the boootloader can be run 09.04.13 # it uses the code from the bootloader/ folder 09.04.27 # The e200 svn bootloader should probably be made available as "the bootloader" since there's that lcd fix. 09.06.37 # JdGordon: Do you have that on-target patcher working? 09.06.42 # yes 09.06.47 # * jhMikeS wonders about the semaphore use and if perhaps that should just be pulled. it will cause more blocking than should really be there I think. 09.09.46 # nice :) 09.10.05 # Sansapatcher will handle the installation I presume? (in manufacturer mode) 09.10.19 # im hoping to merge the sansapatcher code into the installer 09.11.21 Join ipodbootloader [0] (i=4118a0c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6c400788046094b3) 09.11.30 # heres trouble.... 09.11.56 Quit Llorean (Remote closed the connection) 09.12.26 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 09.12.27 # s it possible to load the ipod firmware on default instead of rockbox and have rockbox as the one for the hold switch? 09.13.25 # s it possible to load the ipod firmware on default instead of rockbox and have rockbox as the one for the hold switch? 09.13.30 # arg 09.13.35 # my bad on double post 09.15.23 # I assum you would have to get the souce code for the boot loader and change the if statment around, then recomile it and install it. 09.15.58 # nurn! 09.16.36 # and, yes...you would need to recompile the bootloader 09.17.01 # scorche|ltop! 09.19.30 # jhMikeS: I think the delay should just be removed for now. A more sophisticated mechanism could be added later if we run into trouble somewhere 09.19.39 # I have no idea about the semaphore thing 09.20.11 # thanks guys, ill try it 09.20.11 # just comment out the two calls in switch_thread and see 09.22.29 Part chris__ ("Konversation terminated!") 09.22.33 Quit ipodbootloader ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.28.44 # hey jdgordon, how difficult do you think it would be to modify the gui code to respond to a touch screen or a mouse as an input method? - I know that's a pretty open ended question, but I'm wondering if you have any impression of how feasible it is with the current code. 09.31.00 # kkurbjun: well, I was thinking about that actually (blame apple :p) and it would be _difficult_... 09.31.26 # unless a dedicated screen keybaord area was implemented 09.34.00 # yeah, buttons on screen seem doable, but I'm thinking for the all the lists, right now I'm thinking that the screen could be divided up into segments for up down, left, right and it would work well enough, but it really wouldn't be using the touch screen's capabilities much.. I guess that's something for the future (hopefully not too far future though :-D) 09.34.53 # for the sim it shuold be easy to do... but for real targets.. yeah, it would need regions on the screen which wouldnt work all that well i tihnk 09.34.56 # not with the current ui 09.35.12 Quit Ebert () 09.35.22 # why would the sim be easier? 09.37.02 # there's another platform I'm interested in that has a touch screen - no multi touch stuff, just a single point. 09.37.52 # well... the sim has "buttons" which the user would press, real targets would be interesting... 09.37.56 # which target you have in mind? 09.38.16 # the M:robe 500 09.39.37 # maybe it could work 09.39.56 # it's a DMS320 based player, but alot of the chip and device have already been figured out by two others who started a medios port and did a linux port 09.40.37 # * JdGordon would love to help with that port :p 09.41.06 # if the button driver returned an x/y coordinate instead of a real button, the list code could figure out an action 09.41.14 # no idea how other screens would cope though 09.41.50 Join Redbreva [0] (n=chatzill@host86-140-15-19.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) 09.41.52 # well there's alot of information if you want to get a player, I already have a target tree setup - havn't gotten the lcd running yet, but like I said before there's alot of work and code to refrence 09.42.12 # you can get used ones really cheap on ebay 09.42.28 # I got one in mint condition for 70 w/ shipping 09.44.40 # * jhMikeS no sem, 50 count as before 09.44.47 # jhMikeS: Btw, it should be possible to prevent the rockbox threads from starving other threads (e.g. the i/o) without SDL_Delay. We'd need to set a lower priority for the rockbox threads 09.45.45 # is it confirmed the screen/key/io threads are being starved? 09.46.26 # I don't think SDL support prioritization anyway 09.46.35 # They are if you put it back to sleep(0) not sleeping at all 09.46.52 Join bones [0] (n=johnny@218-215-132-31.people.net.au) 09.48.02 # well, yeah, I don't think a zero wait on SDL_Cond actually did a thread yield but just a test and return, unlike SDL_Delay(0). 09.48.03 # hmm 09.49.16 # that semaphore in switch_thread will increase the yield count too high for the RB threads and those seem to be the ones starving if mpegplayer for example loses ground. 09.50.50 # anyone know anything about the boot.lds file? it doesnt seem to like my extra define i put int he Makefile ? 09.51.33 # now I'm getting some pretty fast buffering save for occasional page file swapping. seems better here with a counter. 09.53.44 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 09.54.12 Part bones ("Leaving") 09.55.01 Join bones [0] (n=johnny@218-215-132-31.people.net.au) 09.55.27 # is it OK to ask for help on installing rockbox here? 09.55.56 # yes if you have read the manual 09.56.07 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@athedsl-359175.home.otenet.gr) 09.56.53 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.57.03 # I'm using LInux and when I try to extract the rockbox zip files, I'm getting a "you don't have permission " type error 09.57.55 # bones: dis you mounted drive with user priviledges? 09.58.31 # was automounted when I plugged in.. I have user priviledges tho.. 09.58.49 # drwx------ 8 marty root 4096 1970-01-01 10:00 MARTY'S IPO 09.59.48 # Type "mount" at a terminal and see if it's mounted read only 10.00.52 # /dev/sdc2 on /media/MARTY'S IPO type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077) 10.01.15 # Can you create a folder on the drive regularly? 10.01.48 # I've not tried before.. can't do it now 10.03.17 # Well, you might be better off asking for support in a linux channel, I'm not entirely sure what's wrong. 10.03.45 # ok - thanks anyway.. cheers 10.04.07 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.09.38 Quit scorche|ltop ("Leaving") 10.10.22 # buffering happens so fast now there wouldn't even be time to make it to the audio debug screen were it not for the occasion page file hits :\ 10.11.11 # <1s for 32MB :P 10.14.48 Part bones ("Leaving") 10.25.22 Quit Caliban (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.29.15 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@CABLE-72-53-22-61.cia.com) 10.33.27 # amiconn: hopefully this one will do the trick 10.36.16 # eek, what's with all the "ld" 10.37.30 # every one I look at is linuxstb.rockbox.org 10.41.03 # temp file system is read only... 10.41.06 # linuxstb: ping 10.41.38 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 10.43.10 # jhMikeS: Hmm, the shutdown problem is back... 10.44.24 # lol. ok. what about the rest of it? 10.45.11 # Works on linx/amd64 (except mpegplayer, but that's another issue) 10.47.05 # Hmm, on windows cpu load is now higher than before (but still <50%) 10.48.10 # up from what? 10.48.45 # Hmm, don't remember exactly... 10.48.52 Join RaRe` [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 10.49.04 # I don't think it's a problem 10.49.42 # I don't know why the peak code spins instead of just waiting on the queue until the next frame. Seems an odd thing to do. 10.49.50 Join gromit` [0] (i=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 10.50.15 # It does effectively wait for the next frame, unless highperf is set 10.50.27 # And highperf is never set on the sim 10.50.35 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.51.52 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-208-127.student.uu.se) 10.51.53 # just waiting on the queue just block until the next frame is due is worth a few uS. makes no sense to spin at all imho. 10.52.13 # The spinning makes very much sense on hwcodec 10.53.09 Quit desowin ("use linux") 10.53.23 # On hwcodec, peak_meter_peek() must be called as often as possible. The more often it is called, the better the peak reading will reflect the actual peaks 10.53.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.54.16 # However, doing this always slows down other stuff, so the highperf variable is used to slow down peak reading to once per tick if ata is active 10.54.42 # Without that, recording will break when the fat code has to scan for the first usable cluster 10.58.17 # ok, for hwcodec it might be needed for accuracy but on SWCODEC just waiting for a keypress would be way more efficient since it gets a whole buffer to peek at 10.59.17 # * amiconn just found why the peakmeters in swcodec sims seem to be totally unrelated to the music... 11.00.17 # Because it is due to some bug? 11.00.29 # the mpegplayer sync is skewed too. it would be nice to have a good audio sync. 11.00.59 # Llorean: It's because it just uses random values in the sim, although it calculates the actual peaks 11.01.13 # hehe, nice 11.01.15 # So... less a bug, and more just "not intended to work" 11.01.33 # This randomisation is obviously there to cause some motion in the sim's wps - but it's only actually needed for hwcodec sims 11.01.34 # * jhMikeS thought it actually read the darn buffer :) 11.01.52 # jhMikeS: It does - but it doesn't use the value... 11.03.02 # why is that needed even for hwcodec? it's not really hwcodec in the sim anyway. 11.03.32 # No, it's no codec in the sim 11.03.47 # no audio? 11.03.48 # Without the randomisation, the peakmeter would look static 11.04.13 # correct 11.04.39 # sheesh. I'd think you could build libmad into it and fake it. 11.05.36 # I guess a sim MAS would be fun to work on 11.05.36 # Well, it would need a mas emulation using libmad 11.06.01 # I don't think it's worth the effort. Interesting it might be though 11.06.02 Quit RaRe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.08.58 # well, if I ever find myself with nothing else to work on... 11.09.02 # ;) 11.09.27 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 11.09.30 # jhMikeS: *cough*mpegseeking*cough* 11.11.28 # ahh...*cough*dualcoresupportbegetsseekingmuchmoreeasily*cough* 11.11.31 # ehmm mpegplayer+voice would be a more important fix... 11.11.49 # since it uses IRAM, that's certainly impossible 11.11.57 # you guys know your allowd to cough more than 1 word at a time right? 11.12.21 # *cough* 11.12.25 # Actually, I could care less about mpegplayer seeking, since I've never really felt its missingness. 11.12.33 # <1 one words at a time :) 11.12.34 # I'm more eager for dual core, but people whine about no seeking a lot. 11.13.11 # jhMikeS: Does mpegplayer need the IRAM while you're in the menus, or could it swap? 11.13.12 # There is one thing I hate working on and that's circular buffers. Everything else seems ok. 11.13.15 # Llorean: we'll never stop the whining and you know it ;-) 11.13.24 # n1s: I can dream, can't I? 11.13.43 # yes, yes of course 11.14.02 # I didn't mean it should voice mpegplayer menus, just that voice enabled doesn't break mpegplayer... 11.14.03 # Llorean: all the IRAM would be trashes as soon as the voice comes back. perhaps a mechanism could be devised 11.14.14 # grah 11.14.29 # Now linuxstb isn't even here... 11.14.34 # pixelma: ah. all it really needs to do is disable it but it doesn't. 11.14.48 # Bagder: Could you disable linuxstb's build server temporarily? 11.15.42 # The voice codec can be loaded and mpegplayer will work properly so it's definitely just when the voice tries to run. 11.19.14 # jhMikeS: Iirc *you* already devised a mechanism for this... and doom uses it 11.21.30 # actually, recording originally just set global_settings.talk_menus (or whatever) but then someone else came up with some interface to do it. 11.22.18 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c1344.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 11.23.06 # * jhMikeS wonders if just letting all the threads die with the sim process would do the job. let the OS handle it. 11.28.34 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.") 11.41.07 Join Bagd3r [0] (i=52b61a05@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a0534bc5cbdc3026) 11.41.27 # I've disabled linuxstb's server for now 11.41.31 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.41.55 # * scorche wonders where b4gder went 11.42.23 # b4gder is my work client, this is just me on my wife's laptop using the web client... 11.42.34 # ah...there is a system! =) 11.42.56 # it's just the working one of the 3 ;) 11.43.46 # 849d3|2? 11.43.48 # Bagd3r: can you have a quick look at my patch for the e200r installer to make sure its done OK and doesnt break any other targets? 11.44.40 # what patch is that? 11.45.26 # http://jdgordon.info:8080/jonno/rockbox/e200rinstaller.patch 11.47.15 # try the new title on the build table... 11.47.27 # now showing ld version too 11.50.15 # in the "recent" page, could there still be the "last 4 weeks" "since..." links after the "Subversion" headline like it was on the old frontpage? 11.51.16 # JdGordon: that dump array could use a comment explaining what it is and where it came from... 11.51.28 # thats going... 11.51.36 # im more worried about the configure and Makefile edits 11.51.39 # there's also a few // comments 11.51.48 # Ihose looked fine to me 11.51.58 # those 11.52.01 # ok cool 11.52.32 # but... 11.53.30 # I would prefer if the boot.lds fix was done by changing the IRAMORIG define outside of the file instead of the #ifdef within the file... 11.54.22 # but that's only minor details 11.54.26 # I'm off 11.54.29 # ok 11.54.30 # Bagd3r: might i talk to you about the new front page, or shall i wait for zagor? 11.54.39 # well, thet answers that =) 11.54.55 # yeps... 11.55.03 # back again tonight my time 11.55.05 Quit Bagd3r ("CGI:IRC") 11.58.46 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 12.00.20 Quit ddalton (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.04.10 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.04.13 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp225-13.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.04.15 Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.05.05 # linuxstb: checked your server? 12.07.55 # I could hardly miss it - it's my main workstation as well... 12.08.11 # It's currently checking and repairing its filesystems. 12.09.11 # ah, ok. 12.10.05 # But thanks anyway ;) 12.10.33 Part Redbreva ("User is away.") 12.12.37 # you're welcome ;) 12.14.35 Part pixelma 12.18.05 Join juk [0] (n=Miranda@p5486D453.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.19.17 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 12.19.31 # linuxstb: what does strip sansapatcher do at the end of the sansaptchr makefile? 12.25.41 Join kubiixaka [0] (n=Miranda@ip-89-103-17-41.karneval.cz) 12.29.16 Join Hedi [0] (n=hel1@ANancy-256-1-24-28.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.30.13 Quit kubiixaka (Client Quit) 12.30.45 Nick Hedi is now known as [aaa] (n=hel1@ANancy-256-1-24-28.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.31.10 Join kubiixaka [0] (n=Miranda@ip-89-103-17-41.karneval.cz) 12.31.17 Join agm3nt [0] (i=nat-107@nat.n3t.pl) 12.31.39 # <[aaa]> Hello there is a firmwares for the mp4 GV40 ? 12.33.23 # [aaa]: There's no Rockbox port for that player 12.33.52 # JdGordon: It removes all the symbols from the binary - to reduce the size. 12.36.29 # JdGordon:: Your e200r installer patch is looking good. You should be able to use sleep() for your delays though - the bootloader implements it on PP using the hardware usec timer. 12.37.43 # which sleep()? 12.37.53 # JdGordon:: Also, if the button driver is working reliably, maybe add an "press any key to reboot" after its finished? 12.38.00 # thats on the list 12.38.04 # I mean use sleep() instead of your for() loops. 12.38.09 # i havnt tested the button driver at all 12.38.54 # But maybe those loops will disappear in the final version anyway... 12.40.36 # probably 12.40.39 # Has anyone tested it on a real E200R yet? 12.40.54 # no, chrisjs169 tested it on his converted e200 though and it worked 12.41.04 # Also, has anyone made any effort on Windows? 12.41.14 # it does a full crc32 check and a quick check of the 4 bytes being changed so it shoudl be safe 12.41.17 # and no 12.41.44 # I assume the dump[] array will go away as well in the final version? 12.41.51 # yeah 12.42.03 # I'm not sure weather to put the whole thing in the main-pp.c or a new file 12.42.16 # A new file IMO. 12.42.37 # As it's not a bootloader... 12.42.48 # <[aaa]> What's the best progs for convertir in .MTV ,? 12.43.21 # [aaa]: what does that have to do with rockbox? 12.43.25 # Although if there's a lot of shared code, maybe add a common-pp.c file or similar? That would also have the advantage of making main-pp.c itself smaller. 12.44.37 # anyone feel like playing (c) lawyer and telling me if my "e200tool" is ok for svn? 12.45.17 # http://pastebin.ca/688368 12.49.01 # It doesn't look rewritten at all... 12.49.15 # hehe, you notiiced then :p 12.49.39 # it all uses the libusb though, so I'm not really sure how different it could be done 12.50.00 # Just add some while(0) statements in the middle of it all 12.50.14 Quit [aaa] () 12.50.31 # I wonder if we could just get MrH to sign over the (c) to us... 12.50.53 # But it's not the copyright that's the problem, is it? It's the no-real-name policy? 12.50.56 # an anonymous person signing over copyright... 12.51.35 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 12.52.38 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3DB18.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.53.22 Quit Llorean (Remote closed the connection) 12.53.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.32 # Does e200tool even have a licence? 12.57.46 # I mean is it distributed with a licence? 12.57.48 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.58.06 # i dont tinhk so 12.58.49 # so technically we don't have permission to change it at all... hmmm 12.59.42 # why make things difficult...? 13.01.20 # * linuxstb switches computers 13.01.23 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 13.02.01 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.02.05 # well IANAL but I think that it's worth considering, also someone (Bagder) should discuss it with mrh 13.02.27 # yeah, probably 13.03.28 # IMO, the e200tool code we're using is very simple. So it wouldn't be too much work (less work than arguing about licenses...) for someone to describe what it's doing (with reference to libusb functions), and then for someone else to just implement them again without looking at the original source. 13.04.09 # this is what I recon... its so simple that it would end up the same code... 13.04.26 # I did that in the past with mi4code, when I incorporated it into scramble. 13.08.58 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.09.55 Join ByronFortescue [0] (n=ByronFor@h211096.upc-h.chello.nl) 13.10.01 # heya.. 13.10.49 # I want to add those flashy icons to my rockbox theme, but how do I accomplish this.. The fontsize of the theme is rather small and it seems like the icons get squished.. 13.12.02 # ByronFortescue: then you have two options, 1) Find a theme that uses a larger font 2) use smaller icons 13.12.32 # ok thanks ^_^ 13.12.45 # and what is this EvilGFusion build I read about?! 13.15.54 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.16.42 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 13.16.49 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.17.57 Part agm3nt 13.18.27 # ByronFortescue: it's an unsupported build that includes some patches 13.19.59 # Ok, cause in order to use some themes, it says it needs those patches (for album art for instance), but do I just overwrite all the files in the package to my .rockbox dir? and does it use the album art in the mp3 files itself? 13.22.53 # linuxstb: your saying I need to tell someone else how it works? or I just need to redo the whole thing from scratch? 13.23.30 # JdGordon: Leave it with me - I'm working on it... 13.23.40 # ah ok 13.24.19 # * JdGordon maybe shouldnt have done svn cp main-pp.c main-e200r-installer.c :p 13.26.00 # ByronFortescue: yes, just overwrite all files in you rockbox dir and no it doesn't read art from the mp3 files and we do not support these builds so we can not really help you with them, if you have questions or problems ask the person making the buidl (in the fourms) 13.26.43 Quit Genre9mp3 () 13.29.35 # ok cheers 13.35.20 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@athedsl-359175.home.otenet.gr) 13.38.54 Part ByronFortescue 13.40.11 Quit desowin ("use linux") 13.46.37 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 13.49.04 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.53.00 Quit decayedcell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.53.21 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.00.34 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 14.13.28 Join ByronFortescue [0] (n=ByronFor@h211096.upc-h.chello.nl) 14.13.34 # hello there again ^_^ 14.14.49 # I was wondering, I like to sync my iPod with iTunes (just lazy to do it manually), it works wonderfully, but when I choose to view the current playlist, I get the filenames instead of the ID3 tags, is there any way to choose to show the ID3 tags in the playlist instead of the filenames? 14.15.19 # Not currently. 14.15.44 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 14.17.16 # ok 14.17.43 # I think it's a bit weird that the database shows all ID3 tags and the player as well, but the playlist view does not.. 14.18.01 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m103h.studby.ntnu.no) 14.18.44 Quit Stalwart ("$PATH upgrade") 14.19.10 # playlists are based on files. Thus they show the file names. You can imagine the Database as a layer running on top of the basic structure of Rockbox - another layer of abstraction. 14.19.36 # Yes, I understand, but a playlist is a layer of abstraction as well.. 14.19.44 # not on rockbox. 14.19.46 # A file list on the other hand.. 14.19.54 # playlist = filelist. 14.19.57 # But showing the id3 tags in the playlist viewer is often requested - it's just that no-one has implemented it in an efficient way yet. 14.20.01 # open a .m3u on your windows machine. 14.20.27 # I'm no windows user ^_^ 14.20.43 # * linuxstb slaps Soap for making such assumptions 14.20.49 # ;) 14.20.53 # cheers 14.20.56 # playing the odds. 14.21.04 # s/windows/Desktop/ 14.21.10 # open a .m3u on your Mac, then. 14.21.45 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 14.22.11 # Notice I didn't cap "windows" - thus it isn't a proper noun, thus I was refering to ANY machine with a modern window manager. :P 14.23.17 # Soap: Not convincing... 14.23.48 Join Febs_ [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.23.48 # lol 14.25.05 # * amiconn tried the modplayer plugin now (on 2nd gen) 14.25.58 # Works quite well. Boosts a little bit on PP5002 14.29.13 # hi folks, I have a quite some problems with creating a new menu item. I've added a new language item (LANG_WHEEL_ACCEL_START) to english.lang, but compiler always can't find. 14.29.31 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.31 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 14.30.37 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.30.42 # Buschel: did you add it for the correct target? or use *: ? also0 did you try a full rebuild with 'make clean' ? 14.35.03 # n1s: did make clean and ../tools/configure 14.35.56 # Buschel: so how does your new string in the lang file look? 14.37.01 # n1s: *: "Wheel Acceleration Start" 14.37.47 # Buschel: that looks ok, could you pastebin the whole .. ? 14.38.16 # 14.38.16 # id: LANG_WHEEL_ACCEL_START 14.38.16 # desc: wheel acceleration start 14.38.16 DBUG Enqueued KICK Buschel 14.38.16 # user: 14.38.16 # 14.38.16 *** Alert Mode level 1 14.38.16 # *: "Wheel Acceleration Start" 14.38.18 # scrollwheel: none 14.38.20 # 14.38.22 # 14.38.24 # *: "Wheel Acceleration Start" 14.38.26 # scrollwheel: none 14.38.28 # 14.38.30 # 14.38.32 # *: "Wheel Acceleration Start" 14.38.34 # scrollwheel: none 14.38.36 # 14.38.38 # 14.38.45 # isn't there a similar phrase already`? 14.39.03 # #rockbox != pastebin... 14.39.55 # Buschel: which target are you building for? 14.40.04 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 14.40.08 # iPOD Video, simulation 14.40.26 # Eh, isn't that the wrong way 'round? 14.40.50 # Should be *: none scrollwheel: "Wheel acceleration Start" iiuc 14.41.46 # amiconn: that depends on what you want to do, the ipods don't have "scrollwheel" 14.41.55 # huh? 14.42.27 # that means they don't define the HAVE_SCROLLWHEEL define that controls jhMikeS' new acceleration stuff (sansa only) 14.43.31 # How "intuitive"... 14.43.37 # ahh, that's it maybe. I've defined this stuff :o) gott check 14.43.50 # But I'd think that's what Buschel is trying to adapt... 14.44.06 # then this won't work obviously :-) 14.44.15 # Why not? 14.45.04 # because if he defines HAVE_SCROLLWHEEL and excludes the string for 'scrollwheel' and then try to use it, well the compiler will barf 14.46.04 # if this is true amiconn was right initially and you have the strings the wrong way around 14.46.17 # ok, looks better now. thx for the hint! 14.47.16 # I was under the impression jhMikeS thought the iPod wheel driver needed a complete reworking to allow the type of scroll acceleration he implemented for the Sansa. 14.47.25 # But you got it working Buschel? 14.48.17 *** Alert Mode OFF 14.53.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.53.53 # soap: yes, it works. nevertheless I don't like the hardcoded acceleration factor. I want to add some minor configuration which allows you to set the wheelspeed from which acceleration starts 14.54.09 # is this in the tracker yet? 14.54.40 # no, not yet. I will post this today -- if not with configurability, then without... 14.55.04 # just curious. I do want to play with it! 14.56.24 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6CBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.59.19 # Soap: I doubt it needs a complete rework but who knows. 14.59.51 # ok, gotta leave for 1h or so 15.00.41 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.00.41 # * jhMikeS isn't clear why odd options like "Wheel Acceleration Start" would be needed. If that's a timeout, it will surely make it less responsive than it should be. 15.04.42 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 15.06.11 # amiconn: there's no issues with setjmp/longjmp on the 64-bit stuff or anything is there? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.05.46 # ok, back agin 16.08.13 # jhmikes: you did the sansa scrollwheel acceleration? 16.13.29 Join webguest56 [0] (i=5348b43f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6a4eb2b31e10e426) 16.13.35 Quit webguest56 (Client Quit) 16.22.22 # Buschel: yes 16.23.43 # ahh, that's good. I would like to discuss some things about it 16.24.14 # i adapted the patch to the ipod-wheeldriver and came around some stuff 16.25.19 # e.g. in my patch i do not use the flag for fast scrolling at all. i always set it and let the calculation in button_apply_acceleration() do the rest 16.25.48 # so, if v > 1 -> accelerate, if v<=1 -> only step further by 1 16.26.25 # you could run into trouble. the reason that is there is so that it _never_ skips when moving slowly to ensure you can always go to the next/prev item. 16.26.46 # works fine here 16.27.02 # maybe a special thing with the sansa-driver? 16.27.50 # no. skipping could still be indicated because a queue_post was missed 16.28.56 # hmm, would be a good idea to take a look at the patch as soon as it is submitted 16.28.59 # an integral part is allowing multiple item skips to preserve the perceived movement velocity and you don't want that when being precise. 16.29.28 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 16.29.48 # hmm, as long as v < 1 the multiple skips would be done as well 16.30.58 # nevertheless: through this proceeding you can interprete the scaling factor as a limit in wheelclicks/s above which the acceleration takes place 16.31.15 # that's what the configuration is about 16.31.38 # ahem, the configuration i talked about one hour ago... 16.34.36 # My main concern with that was that the point at which any skipping could happen would be a well-defined speed and not subject any scaling factor. 16.36.44 # e.g. for sansa in current configuration: v < 1 for <90 clicks/s, so acceleration starts with >=90 clicks/s 16.37.06 # so many factors are used in the sansa wheel driver. at slow speed you have directional hysteresis so that two clicks are needed after reversing direction. there's also hysteresis applied to the switch from slow->fast back to slow. 16.38.03 # yes, i saw this. is this really needed? without such hysteresis you get a more smooth reactivity 16.39.24 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.40.12 # precise selection is more imporant imo when moving slowly. if you just passed a click point, reversing would otherwise jump back with a tiny movement without it 16.40.52 # I'll admit the iPod hardware could be made differently and not need that. I really don't know. 16.41.23 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.2.6-cvs") 16.41.25 # i only reset the velocity to =0 on timeout (500ms) and reverse scroll 16.41.35 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 16.43.34 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 16.43.42 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 16.43.43 # where's the 90 clicks/s figure come from? did you work out everything precisely? 16.43.56 # another thing: could the v-stuff in button_apply_acceleration() be calculated in int? if we would write the data in clicks/s we would merely exceed 400 or so. multiplications could then be done via uint32 16.45.27 # mmmm...not sure. that about 6 revs/s on the wheel. it could exceed that by flicking it and overflow the values then. 16.45.36 Nick casey_zzz is now known as elcasey (i=elcasey@rm-rf.us) 16.46.16 # Daft Punk ftw :P 16.47.01 # Buschel: you mean literally passing the value in clicks/S. I think retaining fractions is important for this.. 16.47.35 # oi, whoops...wrong channel 16.49.19 # Buschel: and don't forget that it's v^2 so a simple 8.8 velocity would neither hold the range and would overflow int32 when squared 16.49.24 Join sofianbabai [0] (n=sof@gar31-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 16.49.59 # hello friends 16.53.26 Join naurus [0] (n=chatzill@66.115.196.131) 16.53.27 # I actually desire to use a fractional power between 1.0 and 3.0 which go from no acceleration to cubic ramp (which is very _fast_). 16.53.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.53.44 # hello everybody 16.53.48 # hi 16.54.23 # i just started using rockbox yesterday, and am wondering if it is possible to change the boot splash screen (sansa e260) 16.55.36 # i'm not one for plain, windows 3.1 looking themes, and i really don't like the default splash (the rockbox one) 16.55.45 # if you compile your own build it is a very easy change. 16.56.09 # ok, could you point me in the right direction? 16.56.34 # i'm pretty computer savvy, so i should be able to figure it out once i get going 16.56.40 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.57.20 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@user-11fau0s.dsl.mindspring.com) 16.57.38 # First step is the wiki. There is a Simple guide to compiling page, with links to the two pre-made build enviroments, as well as instructions for setting up a Linux or Windows build enviroment (using cgywin). 16.57.53 # is there someone who has time to help me adding some strings to the pl script in order to generate a french voice file with well pronounced words? i'm lost with all those {} and i don't wanna make mistakes. it would be nice 16.58.18 # thank you, i'll check that out when i get home 16.58.58 # wow, irc is clearly the best way to get Q's answered, but my dad blocks it, so i won't be back online for a long time 16.59.02 # thanks much 16.59.06 # ok, submitted the patch for ipod scrollwheel acceleration. let's start the discussion :) 16.59.33 # ummm...submitted whenceforth? :P 16.59.38 # I have ubuntu is it okay to add the path to my bash profile so I don't have to enter it everytime I want to build 16.59.51 # Then it is just a matter of replacing the bitmap with your new one. There is a current thread on "Logo Swapper" in the forums. While this thread started out about using somebody else's program to do a simple swap of logos on pre-compiled Rockbox builds, it evolved into a discussion of how this program is not adaquate for what most people want to do and one of the messages in the thread explicitly points out the two lines of C code which need changed to 16.59.51 # enable proper full-screen logo support. 17.00.08 # or will it mess up on trying to build something else 17.01.07 # naurus: there is the web-client you can try from the rockbox.org webpage. Though you should probably either respect your father's wishes, or explain to him what it is which you want to do on IRC, and have a discussion on why he chooses to block it. 17.01.49 # nobody for my strings? :) 17.01.54 # I keep getting this error, "no rule to make target `sudoku_normal.h'", and I'm wondering how to correct this. this is for the c200. 17.01.55 # soap: he did it completley by accident and can't get it back :P 17.02.01 # jac0b, it'll be fine, as the cross-compiler is named differently from the regular gcc. 17.02.10 # IRC has been historicly a hive of villainy, as well as a real-time developement discussion tool. 17.02.15 # jhMikeS: FS #7738 17.02.21 # krazykit: thanks 17.02.40 # naurus, i think you can connect to irc on port 8001 or 8002 on freenode (don't recall which) 17.03.04 # only pop and http are open because of our firewall, my dad is security paranoid 17.03.20 # oh, and ssh out 17.03.24 # but thats ALL 17.03.33 # but thats off topic 17.03.46 # naurus: I can provide you with a shell, if you like. 17.04.26 # no thanks, i already have a few 17.04.40 # well, that's a way to use irc.. 17.04.52 # yea 17.04.58 # i think i can try out the web client 17.05.02 # wheres that at? 17.05.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ 17.06.35 # sweet 17.06.44 # that'll help 17.06.55 # i was wondering if there was something like that earlyer 17.07.02 Quit jac0b ("Leaving") 17.07.20 Join naurus_web [0] (i=4273c483@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5334b669df4a93a4) 17.07.26 # am i going to need to do more testing? ;_ 17.07.27 # yea, this'll work 17.07.28 # *:) 17.07.43 Part naurus_web 17.08.01 # thanks guys 17.08.38 # since we are on the irc topic, is there an irc client we could use under cygwin 17.08.59 # mine is not so speech friendly and cygwin can help since it's installed now 17.09.05 # Buschel: I find the use of 1000000 odd. Everything is done in 0.24 fixed point where 0xffffff = 1. so any fraction <= 1 is frac*0xffffff to fit 24 bits. 17.09.32 # sofianbabai: irssi 17.09.53 # jhMikeS: this is because of calculation from click/s -> 1000000 = 1 million 17.10.33 # jhMikeS: first attempt :) 17.11.33 # maxkelley: and how do i invoke this one from cygwin? sory, i'm a windows user 17.17.40 # how many clicks/turn are the iPod wheels? 17.18.07 # in the driver 96 are mentioned 17.18.31 # nevertheless i only get about 10-20 /sec when rotating fast 17.19.36 # and the interrupt is operating? smaller numbers should be needed than on e200. hmmm. 17.20.19 Part agm3nt 17.20.45 # in the interrupt-handler there's a u-delay of 50us -> max. 20 int's per sec, but per interrupt there shall be several clicks 17.20.56 # Zagor, Bagder: Is there a reason why SVN history is on the bottom of the page? I find it very annoying, not only that but even if I click on the Subversion link I have to scroll down to see the SVN commit log :( 17.21.12 # sofianbabai: it's gotta be installed. 17.21.30 # also where are the SVN older-history links? (Like "since 2.5", "4 weeks old" 17.21.34 # XavierGr: try www.rockbox.org/recent 17.21.44 # not found! 17.22.01 # XavierGr: try www.rockbox.org/recent.shtml 17.22.05 # my bad 17.22.12 # XavierGr: or http://www.rockbox.org/main_old.shtml 17.22.42 # Soap: that's what I am talking about, even if on that page you have to scroll down 17.22.50 # IMHO SVN log is a serious priority 17.22.56 # so better put it on top! 17.24.42 # Buschel: isn't 50uS 20000 int's/sec or 208 1/3 r/s? fast fingers. 17.25.34 Join hanklords [0] (n=hank@gov91-1-82-234-90-79.fbx.proxad.net) 17.28.53 # ooops, you're right. but doesn't change the fact i only see 10-20 clicks/s 17.28.56 Join mschneider [0] (i=4237241a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-defd084110db2f31) 17.32.49 # without the patch, what's the limit for the number of WPS images? 17.32.52 # must be some reason behind it and fixing that problem would improve the situation a whole lot. really, I can't imagine anything working well at all like that. 17.33.22 # chrisjs169: 52 + background 17.33.42 # Genre9mp3, 'k, thanks 17.34.09 # Buschel: from where are you measuring the rate? right in the button driver and not the button_queue? 17.34.12 # there's also an image buffer limit. So you can't have 52 huge images (or even medium sized ones for that matter) 17.35.12 # mschneider, any idea on what that limit is? 17.35.15 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.35.30 # Kratonator from ABi is asking me for help with a WPS 17.36.23 # chrisjs169: depends the screen resolution and bit depth 17.36.35 # Genre9mp3, ok 17.37.05 # I think it might be twice the screen resolution (as a total image area) 17.38.51 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@70.53.156.245) 17.38.51 Quit mschneider ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.39.00 # ok 17.42.15 # chrisjs169: from trunk/apps/gui/gwps.h 17.42.23 # #define IMG_BUFSIZE ((LCD_HEIGHT*LCD_WIDTH*LCD_DEPTH/8) \ 17.42.27 # + (2*LCD_HEIGHT*LCD_WIDTH/8)) 17.42.38 # Genre9mp3, thanks 17.43.59 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 17.44.43 # jhMikeS: the measurement come from the acceleration factor which had to be enlarged to an amount which equals a click-velocity of 10-20 17.45.28 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.50.10 # what is the key for the quit button in uisim? 17.50.38 Join JumpLink [0] (n=JumpLink@hmbg-4db20770.pool.einsundeins.de) 17.50.53 Quit JumpLink (Client Quit) 17.52.20 Quit petur ("switch") 17.52.29 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.56.12 Join JumpLink [0] (n=JumpLink@hmbg-4db20770.pool.einsundeins.de) 17.57.54 Part JumpLink 18.00.07 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@host86-136-40-165.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 18.02.03 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6CBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.02.40 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.04.22 Quit Diamonds_and_Rus ("www.TuttoIRC.it mIRC 6.21 in Italiano by TuttoIRC & ^DaNGeR^") 18.07.54 Quit spiorf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.08.51 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host214-208-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.11.55 Quit hanklords (Remote closed the connection) 18.12.41 # jhMikeS: found the bug with the low vlaue for click/s. nullified the accumulator in the wrong place. 18.13.00 # scorche: Does dual-booting work OK on your E200R? There are a few reports of it not working (screen fading to white) in the forums, but maybe it's just user-error... 18.18.53 # how do I get arm-elf-gcc? 18.19.11 # maxkelley, you have to manually compile it AFAIK 18.19.24 # maxkelley, tools/rockboxdev.sh can do that for you though 18.19.46 Quit naurus ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 18.19.50 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 18.20.02 # linuxstb_, Dual booting is fine on my e200 (with R firmware/bootloader) but I'm not using the most up to date firmware 18.20.05 # thanks 18.20.14 # I knew there was some script that did it... 18.22.34 # maxkelley, yeah, it usually takes a little while to compile though 18.23.38 # I figured as much :) too bad apt doesn't have arm-elf-gcc (at least, I don't think it does..) 18.24.01 # actually, it's speeding by pretty nicely. 18.24.38 Join dandin1 [0] (n=dandin1@bas7-ottawa23-1088817612.dsl.bell.ca) 18.24.47 # emdebian has a toolchain for arm (an apt repo), but it's better to simply use rockboxdev 18.25.08 # while it's compiling... food! 18.27.21 # mmm.. peach cobbler. 18.27.21 Quit dandin1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.27.44 # linuxstb: Calling that patcher bootloader.bin might be a source of confusion 18.27.54 # Why not call it e.g. bootpatcher.bin? 18.28.48 # or donotuseasbootloaderbecauseitsabootloaderpatcher.bin. 18.28.50 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p508A504F.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.29.37 Quit Arathis (Nick collision from services.) 18.29.42 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A504F.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.30.43 Quit akaias (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.32.53 # amiconn: Yes, I agree it needs changing - hopefully we can eventually put it on the download server and rbutil will download and transfer it. That's just what it's currently called when it's built. 18.33.27 # I don't understand why JdGordon made it a separate build option 18.33.56 # I would probably have integrated it into the bootloader build 18.34.18 # I.e. selecting (b)ootloader would build both bootloader.bin and bootpatcher.bin 18.34.44 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 18.34.58 # That's a good idea. 18.35.16 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 18.36.24 # what should I build first, bootloader or normal? 18.37.03 # It's normally best to install the normal build first - so the bootloader has something to boot when you install that. 18.37.12 # ok. 18.38.42 Join eigma [0] (i=pavqkko@CABLE-206-188-76-21.cia.com) 18.39.04 Join agm3nt [0] (n=k-o-n-r-@nat.n3t.pl) 18.39.57 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-017-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.44.05 # ok, I built both, so I have to go into manufacturing mode, pop in the bootloader then the mi4, or both at the same time? 18.45.13 # c200? 18.45.25 # yeah 18.46.28 # You just put the bootloader .mi4 in recovery mode. The rockbox.mi4 lives inside the .rockbox folder on the FAT32 partition. 18.46.42 # my recovery mode isn't working. 18.47.25 # it gives me a black screen (not off, but black) 18.47.42 Join hanklords [0] (n=hank@gov91-1-82-234-90-79.fbx.proxad.net) 18.48.34 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.48.36 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp261-198.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.49.38 # any ideas? 18.51.13 Join dsk [0] (i=c95f592d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-362020a875b8ba90) 18.51.20 # Hi all there 18.51.24 # hallo dsk. 18.51.33 Quit dsk (Client Quit) 18.51.38 # bye dsk. 18.53.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.57.05 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 19.03.14 Quit BigMac ("Konversation terminated!") 19.05.28 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 19.07.06 Quit BigMac (Client Quit) 19.10.31 Join massis [0] (n=massi@host241-12-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.10.48 # ciao 19.10.55 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.13.01 Quit chrisjs169 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.14.43 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 19.19.44 Join seren [0] (n=james@unaffiliated/seren) 19.19.50 # hello 19.20.06 # is there a way to use two different fonts in a theme 19.21.00 # Not officially. There's a "multi-font" patch someone has written, but it's not included in the official Rockbox. 19.24.15 Quit massis (Remote closed the connection) 19.24.42 Join Nightcrawler [0] (n=TuttoIRC@d83-184-226-126.cust.tele2.it) 19.25.01 Join jwilen [0] (n=jw@c83-252-104-249.bredband.comhem.se) 19.25.16 # linuxstb: is it possible to rotate the display on e200 players? 19.25.37 # No 19.27.03 # linuxstb: bummer there is themes for the i river H3xx that is same dimentions but landscape 19.28.58 # is/are 19.31.02 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.31.46 # linuxstb: what should I do if I can't get into recovery mode, and only manufacturing? 19.32.31 # Restore the bootloader in manufacturing mode? I don't own a Sansa, so can only guess. 19.33.00 # mehh.. I've tried a billion times :( 19.33.32 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.34.07 # Tried what, recovery mode or reinstalling the bootloader? Has recovery mode ever worked for you? 19.34.24 # BTW, by "bootloader" I mean the original Sansa bootloader... 19.34.32 # it has worked previously. 19.34.46 # I tried upgrading the sansa firmware, and when I booted, I got a black screen. 19.34.52 # I tried recovery, got the same. 19.35.02 # So your C200 doesn't boot currently? 19.35.07 # amiconn: per chance you want to test graceful sim thread shutdown real quick before committing it? Just one shutdown should be enough to tell. 19.35.14 # manufacturing was the only thing that worked, so I used e200tool to recover the original bootloader. 19.35.18 # that's correct. 19.35.52 # after it copied the bootloader, it restarted and went into the firmware, but froze on the "connected" screen. 19.36.13 # so, I press-and-held the power button, restarted, and I'm back to the black screen. 19.36.21 # jhMikeS: Can#T test on my linux box now. Will do when I'm back home 19.41.18 # amiconn: ok, I'll leave a patch up and link here. I might not be around. 19.41.31 Quit eigma () 19.42.17 Join eigma [0] (i=hvgqjbb@CABLE-206-188-76-21.cia.com) 19.48.48 # yay! 19.48.52 # I fixed it! 19.54.06 Join Wofl [0] (n=nils@ip68-97-21-133.ok.ok.cox.net) 19.55.03 Part pixelma 19.55.25 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 19.57.58 Quit sofianbabai () 19.59.08 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.59.15 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.03.16 # amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/MichaelSevakis?rev=1;filename=thread-sdl-graceful-shutdown.patch 20.20.00 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-41-123-89.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 20.20.13 # * ender` yawns 20.22.21 Quit seren (Remote closed the connection) 20.33.46 Quit bluey- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.33.51 Quit hanklords (Remote closed the connection) 20.34.02 Quit agm3nt (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.34.04 Join Agm3nt [0] (i=nat-107@nat.n3t.pl) 20.34.10 # maxkelley: What was the problem? 20.34.26 Quit Wofl (Remote closed the connection) 20.38.15 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.38.30 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 20.45.50 Join kasba_ [0] (n=kasba@87.100.61.50) 20.45.57 # bip 20.46.15 # amiconn: Looking at bootloader/Makefile, I can't see how it could easily be changed to build a second binary without duplicating almost all of the Makefile. JdGordon's approach seems less invasive... 20.47.37 # hem, got an issue with an ipod 5G and can't find any help on website : could someone help me ? 20.48.16 # Just ask. 20.48.55 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.49.23 # I unzipped the rockbox zip I created to my target, but it won't boot rockbox.. what do I have to put on the player in recovery mode? 20.49.47 # maxkelley: You installed the Rockbox bootloader mi4? 20.50.06 # I've updated my rockbox today and when trying to read a mp3 file I got the message : "data abort at 00030B70" 20.50.19 # would that be firmware.mi4? 20.50.27 # or rockbox.mi4? 20.50.41 # kasba_: When did you last update Rockbox? 20.50.57 # maxkelley: firmware.mi4 20.51.06 # upload that in recovery, then? 20.51.15 # it was during last spring : version like 12xxx 20.51.17 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-017-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.51.19 # maxkelley:copy firmware.mi4 20.51.26 # maxkelley: That's what I said earlier... And the rockbox.mi4 stays in the .rockbox folder on the FAT partition. 20.51.36 # maxkelley: it have about 54KB 20.51.59 # kasba_: You need to update the bootloader. See the install section in the manual - updating the bootloader is the same as a first-time install. Basically, just run ipodpatcher and select "i" for install. 20.52.03 # thanks.. sorry to cause all this trouble. 20.52.37 # ok linuxstb : I'm going to try now 20.53.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.54.58 # hmm. 20.55.04 # I get "invalid main image" 21.03.12 # jhMikeS: do you need another tester of that patch on linux amd64 ? 21.05.35 # linuxstb : my ipod is up again and works fine. If I was a nice girl I would give you a french kiss but I'm an horrible man, so I give you a friendly hanshake ;-)) 21.06.06 # maxkelley: when you copy firmware.mi4 you unmount and then disconnect? 21.06.54 # now I'm testing my brand new Sennheiser PX100 : sounds very good 21.06.56 # yes. 21.07.11 # kasba_: I head those are good. 21.07.21 # *heard. 21.07.30 # maxkelley: maybe is rockbox.mi4 is bad 21.07.43 # Agm3nt: it boots into the sansa firmware. 21.08.07 # if the rockbox bootloader were installed, wouldn't it give an error code? 21.10.05 # maxkelley: "invalid main image" this is error code 21.10.17 # from the sansa recovery mode. 21.10.52 # When I upload to the sansa, in recovery mode, and I unplug it, it says "reading main image/ invalid main image/ resetting system" 21.11.19 # that image is firmware.mi4 21.11.21 # You built the firmware.mi4 file yourself? 21.11.32 # yes. 21.11.52 # I believe I have to.. I don't think the e200 bootloader works on the c200. 21.11.59 # No, it won't... 21.12.05 # maxkelley: what size it have?? 21.12.11 # 56kb. 21.12.24 # Agm3nt: Have you built and installed firmware.mi4? 21.12.39 # maxkelley: yes and it"s work 21.12.45 # for the c200? 21.12.48 # yes 21.13.05 # you 2 could maybe compare md5 sums of your bootloaders or smth 21.13.05 # may I try that one, if you still have it? 21.13.19 # n1s: might work. 21.13.21 # Does anyone have any idea where the patchset linked to from the PluginMidiPlay wiki page came from? Is it freely redistributable, and hence OK to move to the download servers? 21.13.42 # n1s: sure, give it a try. it's basically 64-bit I'm wondering about. 21.13.53 # maxkelley: yes 21.14.02 # 16313027b9ff90f462bb6b521bb19f82 21.14.18 # well, wanna email it to me? max@maxkelley.com 21.14.28 # maxkelley: thanks 21.14.28 # Are you both using the same version of the C200 original firmware? 21.14.47 # anyone know the C200 screen res off the top of their head? 21.14.49 # I grabbed 1.00.03 or something like that. 21.14.55 # yeah, 132x80 21.15.04 # I have 1.00.00P 21.15.07 # it's on my todo list :) 21.15.10 # Soap: 132x80 21.15.11 # * Soap has a sneaking suspicion his C100 is a C200 minus the microSD and LiIon 21.15.21 # hehe. 21.15.28 # also known as a c100? :P 21.15.47 # it's worth a try, soap. 21.15.51 # the C200 has microSD and a rechargeable battery, does it not? 21.15.56 # yes. 21.16.08 # did you compare chips? 21.16.17 # no screws to open it. 21.16.21 # really? 21.16.29 # * n1s hands Soap a hammer :-) 21.16.34 # no pcbscans online? 21.16.36 # really. I was going to get playing with it this week while out of town. 21.16.57 # Agm3nt: lemme know when you send it. 21.17.31 # if you want, I can give you the patches to get most plugins working, by the way... which I need to upload to flyspray. 21.18.43 # jhMikeS: sim works a well as it did before :-) no problems closing although it takes noticably ylonger to start it up and getting music playing, that might be recent svn changes though... 21.19.06 # how do you quit the sim without kill -9? :) 21.19.21 # maxkelley: klick the cross in the corner? 21.19.32 # nah, doesn't work for me. 21.19.43 # neither does xkill, or ctrl-c. 21.19.50 # but kill -9 does :) 21.19.58 # maybe that is what the patch was supposed to fix... 21.20.00 Join rrae [0] (n=rrae@alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de) 21.20.19 # hi you guys 21.20.21 # oh... I didn't know there was one. 21.20.24 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B165F6.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.21.14 # i just googeled and tested very much... and came to the close, heretic and hexen wad's will not work neither with prdoom nor rockdoom :( 21.21.27 # maxkelley: done 21.21.35 # thanks :) 21.22.00 # maxkelley: remember about unmount 21.22.09 Join Pro [0] (n=jo@217.196.84.38) 21.22.09 # here it is! 21.22.13 # jhMikeS: ok, tested with clean svn, the delays are there but I have no problem closing the sim either 21.22.22 Quit juk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.22.24 # i don't know if this is the place to ask something like this... but are there plans to make rockdoom compatible to heretic? 21.23.04 # n1s: as long as it plays well and stops well. I mean, it does actually play for real (no skips or extremely odd stuff)? 21.23.06 # i testet the wad's with zdoom and they worked great with that 21.23.08 Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.23.29 # rrae: not that I know of, the most active Rockdoom dev, kkurbjun hasn't been around for a while 21.23.30 # does it matter if there's a VERSION.TXT in the recovery partition? 21.23.46 # n1s: He's here now though... 21.23.47 # I'm here 21.23.51 # :) 21.23.55 # Hello here. 21.24.02 # ah, hi kkurbjun :-) 21.24.07 # thats said :( 21.24.14 # Agm3nt: still boots into sansa fw. 21.24.33 # and no, I don't have any plans to make it compatible with heretic - the source between doom and heretic is pretty different 21.24.40 # rrae: I'm sure a patch would be accepted if you made it 21.24.44 # maxkelley: maybe rockbox.mi4 is inwalid 21.25.14 # well i know C 21.25.41 # but the rockbox bootloader should display an error code though, if it can't find the rockbox.mi4, or is invalid? at least, that's what I saw someplace on the wiki 21.25.48 # but at least someone to talk about it who knows what would be to do, would be nice 21.25.49 # want me to rebuild it, or send me yours? 21.25.51 # jhMikeS: yup playback works fine :-) 21.25.57 # kkurbjun: Do you have any idea where the patchset linked to from the PluginMidiPlay page comes from? 21.25.57 # yep, if you make one I would be glad to accept it - currently rockdoom uses nearly the entire plugin buffer, so you'd have to use the overlay stuff 21.25.59 # i have no clue how much work it would be 21.26.07 # n1s: good. thanks for checking. 21.26.16 # rrae, it would be a LOT 21.26.24 # to put it simply 21.26.29 # jhMikeS: np :-) 21.26.38 # linuxstb, no, I'm not sure where it came from 21.26.56 # ah you are there, nice 21.26.58 # maxkelley: ok I send you 21.27.16 # too crowded here ;) 21.27.42 # Agm3nt: I tried again, removing VERSION.TXT, and putting only firmware.mi4, I got "Reading main image/invalid main image/upgrade finished/resetting system" 21.28.14 # maxkelley: what OF version you have? 21.28.54 # hmm k 21.29.06 # 1.00.03 I think. 21.29.13 # maxkelley: maybe this is a problem 21.29.14 # what's yours? 21.29.19 # that's what I was just thinking. 21.29.33 # maxkelley: 1,01.00P 21.29.40 # well there are very few sources about what is the difference between doom and he** wads 21.29.53 # rrae, rockdoom isn't a straight source port of doom or any of the variants - it's this half doom, half prboom mix - the heretic source has alot of other code/features that were added in, I don't think it would be as straightforward as it would have been if I just used the doom original source, or it was at least a clean port of prboom 21.29.55 # ok, I'm downloading that one now.. is that for the americas too? 21.30.14 # maxkelley: AFAIK main-pp have a most recent key 21.30.29 # maxkelley: yes 21.30.41 # maxkelley: you mean OF?? 21.31.21 # I havn't looked at specifically the wad code - I would imagine that the headers were the main things that changed in the wads 21.31.36 # yeah, sansa firmware 21.31.43 # either heretic or hexen (or both) had scripting engines on top of the doom engine 21.31.46 # well for the start we could just ignore all script stuff 21.32.00 # oops, gotta eat. 21.32.04 # will you be around? 21.32.12 # there's also changes to the rendering engine 21.32.14 # maxkelley: if you have 1.00.03A, 1,01.00P is good 21.32.15 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.32.50 # and all the ai code is probably different 21.32.51 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host239-222-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.33.06 # OK. 21.33.35 # I think the doomsday engine has support for all 3 if you wanted a refrence how they did it 21.34.00 # do you have a good source of information of how wad files are structured so i could make me a picture of it? 21.34.32 # bye 21.34.35 # ok i just found this: http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/WAD 21.34.38 Part kasba_ ("Bye au chan") 21.34.47 # I really think the wad files is the least of the concerns.. they are basically just a package of files 21.35.06 # YEAH! 21.35.09 # ROCKBOX BABY! 21.36.48 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.20.105) 21.37.00 # PSP-doom can run heretic/hexen wads and i don't know if it is also based on prdoom 21.37.21 # maxkelley: work, what was the problem?? 21.37.33 # thought so because some wiki said, prdoom was ported to PSP 21.38.04 # I looked at the psp port once a while ago - I don't think it's prboom 21.38.41 Join selman [0] (n=mIRC@88.243.199.31) 21.38.58 # guys the new builds from svn14604 have a problem in h10[20GB] where the playlist doesnt resume or play new tracks after start up, solution -> the file "playlist.control" needs to be deleted, then things work fine for that session 21.41.13 # rrae, I just checked out that source - it looks like it's a mix of different code also 21.41.23 # similar to rockdoom 21.41.29 # but it definately didn't use prboom 21.41.54 # ok 21.42.30 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 21.44.22 # AceNik: have you narrowed it down to being revision 14604 that causes this, seems a bit unlikley as that was an update of brazillian translation... 21.45.29 # weren't all previous attempts to enhence doom to enhence the WAD format itself? 21.45.47 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?") 21.46.31 # n1s: i basically used this build after 14577,whih also had this problem sometimes basically i think this issue is older than 14577 21.47.04 # rrae if you have questions on the source I would be happy to give you whatever information you need, you can reach me on the forums via pm if anything comes up. The WAD format is just a collection of files - there were enhancement to the levels, the palettes, ways of adding translucent objects.. there were some enhancements to the wad loader and the caching engine, but they didn't change the format of a wad file. 21.47.15 # AceNik: It would probably be helpful if you could find out which change causes it 21.47.23 Quit Agm3nt () 21.47.31 # n1s: but yes after the playlist.control file causes things to work perfect 21.47.34 # ok 21.47.42 # yea thank you very much 21.47.47 # n1s: gimme sometime ill work on it 21.47.48 # AceNik: even after a reboot? 21.47.59 # ya 21.48.06 # i'll see how far i can get in my spare time 21.48.23 # well everytime you want to reboot n resume tracks, you need to delete the file 21.48.50 Quit bluey- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.48.59 # actually sometimes after rebott it works sometimes it doesnt 21.49.07 # there was higher resolution rendering - prboom is designed to be as compatible as possible with the different versions of doom and some of the older source ports. there were changes to the code between doom1 and doom2 - they also had access to the original dos version of doom source to fix some of the incompatiblity with the linux release 21.51.31 Quit Nightcrawler ("www.TuttoIRC.it mIRC 6.21 in Italiano by TuttoIRC & ^DaNGeR^") 21.51.49 # alot of those compatibilites fixes were also done for the demos, this page has information about what they did: http://prboom.sourceforge.net/about.html#features rockdoom includes most of that except the menu code, there are also alot of changes to get it to work with the rockbox functions that are available. 21.51.49 # n1s:where do i see older version details 21.52.13 # AceNik: here for example http://www.rockbox.org/since20060801.html 21.53.10 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.54.15 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@86.157.168.140) 21.54.16 # http://www.rockbox.org/since20070901.html doesnt work 21.55.24 # n1s: what do you use to scrobble your tracks to last.fm 21.56.43 Join e-ric [0] (i=ganja@e176203015.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.00.57 # AceNik: I don't srcobble, and no only that page and the "since25.html" and "since-4weeks.html" 22.01.52 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]") 22.01.53 Quit selman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.02.32 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 22.02.35 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.04.10 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net) 22.06.25 # n1s: the recent usb improvements made on pp targets, works for eben h10? 22.06.44 # i dont have any sign of automation on my h10 when i plugin my usb 22.07.10 # AceNik: I don't know 22.07.39 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-017-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.07.41 # n1s: ok i think this patch made a difference to the playback.c file , it makes it wait for somethin http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6239 22.08.12 # this has been committed to svn on 29 Aug 15:11, is it by you ? 22.08.21 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 22.08.51 Join sofianbabai [0] (n=sof@gar31-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 22.10.56 # hi again how do i register on the svn server in order to commit a file ? 22.11.17 # sofianbabai: You don't - you post patches to the patch tracker. 22.11.39 Quit e-ric_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.12.14 # hum i just wanted to add a modified lang file i'm not so clever to make patches for the moment lol :) 22.12.29 # Are you using svn? 22.12.48 # (as opposed to downloading the source code as a .tar.bz2 file) 22.12.53 # yes with cygwin i know the syntax but it is asking for a pwd obviously 22.13.00 # linuxstb: the recent usb improvements made on pp targets, works for h10? 22.13.03 # AceNik: Yep I comitted that patch, are you sure that it's the one that caused the problem? 22.13.36 # n1s: im not sure, im asking you thats why ? 22.13.54 # sofianbabai: From the top-level of the source (same place as apps, firmware etc), type "svn diff > mypatch.diff" and that will create a patch. 22.14.11 # n1s: i jus think it makes some changes to playback.c ,t hats why 22.14.14 # sofianbabai: You then post that to the patch tracker (see the links on the homepage) 22.14.37 # linuxstb: nthin regarding the usb happens when i plug my h10 in it 22.14.39 # AceNik: THe problem is that I don't have an h10 so I can't test it, but I can't see why that change should break readingor writing of the playlist_control file 22.14.53 # AceNik: Are you holding the RIGHT button? 22.14.56 # hm ok lol i'l try this ! sounds complicated for a windows user 22.15.01 # thx anyway 22.15.12 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m103h.studby.ntnu.no) 22.16.09 # n1s: i have no clue as such, all i can say is that after deletin the file things work fine, now please can you recommend this prob to people capable of pointin it in the right direction, cause im not sure 22.16.32 Quit desowin ("use linux") 22.16.44 # linuxstb: but thats how i get it into the disk mode right "power + o" 22.17.08 # linuxstb: thats the ums mode , how does rockbox help then ? 22.17.11 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 22.17.32 # AceNik: You hold RIGHT in Rockbox as you're inserting the USB cable. 22.17.36 # (and keep it held IIUC) 22.17.40 # linuxstb: does the update mean USBOTG has been mplemented 22.18.10 # AceNik: No. 22.19.21 # linuxstb: does the name of the patch is important? I suppose it must reflect the changes made isn't it? 22.19.22 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.19.51 # sofianbabai: The name of the patch is up to you - but it makes sense for it to be descriptive. 22.20.11 # linuxstb: but ultimately it does enter UMS mode right 22.20.12 # linuxstb: ok, many thanks 22.20.28 # AceNik: AFAIK, yes. Is it not working for you? 22.20.47 # linuxstb: it is perfect 22.21.26 # thanks to everyone who helped me. 22.21.29 # linuxstb: thanks although did you read of the other problem i commented about earlier with n1s? 22.23.22 # AceNik: Yes, but I don't know any more than n1s. 22.25.11 # linuxstb: ok but please dont forget about the problem , please recommend it to someone havin a clue, otherwise i can live with deleting the playlist.contol file :-) 22.25.53 Quit Frazz ("Leaving") 22.26.23 Join Chronon [0] (i=18147773@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d1451c4a6ccb1d55) 22.26.43 Join pepie34_ [0] (n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net) 22.26.55 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-41-112-20.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 22.27.04 # linuxstb: sory i''ve typed svn diff > lang_francais.diff and hit enter and now i have a window with a > sign but not clues about a created patch. i'm usign cygwin 22.27.21 Quit AceNik ("bye guys have fun , enjoy !!!!!") 22.27.55 # Press CTRL+C and try again - you probably typed a quote on the line (which shouldn't be there). 22.28.05 Quit BigMac (Remote closed the connection) 22.28.38 Join BigMac [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.30.10 # ok! i've my diff file :) 22.30.12 # thx ! 22.30.15 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0343A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.31.02 Quit Genre9mp3 () 22.31.26 Quit pepie34 (No route to host) 22.31.34 Quit ptw419 () 22.34.31 Quit Chronon ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.35.16 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.35.57 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.35 Quit bluey- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.42.56 Join BigMac_ [0] (n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.43.50 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.45.36 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.45.42 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4D46.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.46.06 Join docgonzo [0] (n=docgonzo@ip68-227-86-225.sb.sd.cox.net) 22.46.10 # Hello all. 22.46.37 # i just installed the rockbox firmware to my sansa e200 player and it loads/boots fine. 22.46.52 Join Chronon [0] (i=Chronon@c-24-20-119-115.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 22.46.57 # is there a way to get a more 'graphical' interface, than simply the blk/white one? 22.47.09 # i really like the colorful sansa menus. ::Shrug:: 22.47.12 # http://www.rockbox-themes.org 22.47.16 # yes, wps. 22.47.30 # who knows much about the structure of the rockblox plugin? 22.48.59 # or, what would extern const fb_data rockblox_background[]; mean? :P 22.49.33 # obviously rockblox_background is some sort of constant, but where does it come from? 22.49.48 # It's the bitmap for the background. 22.49.56 # See the files in apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/ 22.50.05 # there's not one named that. 22.50.36 # There are 9 named that... 22.50.38 # oh, I lied. 22.51.12 # The appropriate bmp (see the SOURCE file in that directory) is converted to a C array at compile time and linked to the plugin. 22.51.17 # ^SOURCES 22.51.21 # so, in that case, I must make one for me. 22.51.38 # Yes - you'll need to create lots of bmps for the c200... 22.51.55 # did lowlight disable the plugin for the c200 s in the make file or in SOURCES? (In case someone knows from the top of their heads, otherwise I go looking) 22.52.08 # pixelma: yeah, I'm making a crapload of patches for them, 22.52.21 # it's in tools/configure 22.52.45 # no plugins will compile because they'll all complain of not having proper keymaps. 22.53.03 # I'll upload the patch to flyspray in the next few days. 22.53.06 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 22.53.13 # linuxstb: Do you have an idea why mpegplayer would just bail out on a 64 bit sim? 22.53.24 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-128-205.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.53.30 # maxkelley: I'd suggest something like solitaire first - it could use the same bmp as the small H10 (128 pixels wide, colour) - you would "just" define a nice keymap 22.53.47 # +need to 22.53.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.54.16 # well, for most of them, the e200 keymap works, except for those that use the scrollwheel, for which I substitute volume keys. 22.54.28 # or, something suitable. 22.54.31 # amiconn: Not really... I assume your libmad changes are being compiled? 22.54.37 # yes 22.54.52 # It doesn't crash, just bails out and I'm back in the file browser 22.55.29 # That happens after the 2nd call to mpeg_malloc() is logged on the console 22.55.57 # How big is that? IIRC, only 2MB is allocated to the malloc implementation. 22.56.11 # ~1.2MB 22.56.18 Quit pepie34_ ("Ex-Chat") 22.56.21 # The first is ~18KB 22.56.39 # What video are you using? Elephants Dream? 22.56.44 # yup 22.56.52 # H300 sim, 224x176 version 22.56.53 # haha. 22.57.15 # I remember trying to play that in 1080p on a integrated video computer. 22.57.25 # over 802.11g. 22.57.28 # maxkelley: I'd really like to work on the graphics related things that needs to be done, but since I don't have a c200 myself I could only test keymaps in the sim which doesn't always tell how "handy" the keymaps are... 22.57.57 # if you'd like to work on the graphics, feel free to, I hate all these pesky graphics mods myself. 22.58.06 # the keymaps are already taken care of, I believe. 22.58.14 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net) 22.58.14 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.58.27 # well, no, I know. I spent all yesterday taking care of that little problem (and part of this morning) 23.00.34 # I see... did you put your keymap tweaks somewhere where they are available opeenly? 23.00.47 Quit pepie34 (Client Quit) 23.01.27 Quit freqmod (Connection reset by peer) 23.01.29 # rasher: around? 23.02.10 # pixelma: I will pretty soon, I want to put everything in one large patch instead of a billion small ones. 23.02.40 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-113-27.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.02.41 # if you'd like, I can set up an ftp account for you so you can dev with my patches. 23.02.43 # amiconn: Nothing obvious comes to mind... I've just tested a h300 sim on 32-bit linux, and it's fine. 23.03.08 # I know that it works on 32 bit 23.03.18 # It does so on windows as well 23.03.29 # maxkelley: just read your comment earlier again, I'll watch flyspray the next days a bit (don't have time myself tomorrow but could start then) 23.04.04 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net) 23.05.57 # linuxstb: On 32 bit, there is a total of 11 mpeg_malloc() calls. The second identical to those I get on amd64, but the first is a tiny bit larger on amd64 23.06.39 Join webguest49 [0] (i=52887484@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-81df1b4a50dd5c4d) 23.06.55 Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") 23.06.57 # jhMikeS: The patch seems to work fine on linux/x86 and amd64 23.07.19 # where can I find the hole list of actual changes made to the SVN? I just see the last few entries.... 23.07.36 # linuxstb: Sorry, mpeg2_malloc() of course 23.09.27 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 23.11.03 # anyone? 23.11.05 # wow, my transcoder script actually works :-D probably my first shellscript that is actually useful 23.11.21 # I just wanted to toss this offer out once more. I have an iPod Nano that suffers from the recent playback bug. If anyone with the expertise would like to take a crack at looking at this problem I would be willing to send my unit to them. 23.12.08 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 23.12.08 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 23.12.37 # Chronon: Where in the world are you? 23.13.32 # linuxstb: as i said in the thread, yes, dual boot works fine for me 23.13.41 Join k-man [0] (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) 23.13.44 # hello 23.13.59 # scorche: OK, I missed that - it's been mentioned in multiple threads. So we're blaming user error? 23.14.06 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-113-27.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.14.31 # webguest49: "svn log" 23.14.53 # i would atm, but there could be another unknown reason, i suppose 23.15.14 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-017-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.15.21 # Bagder: IMHO it would be more useful to see the commit message in the frontpage table than which files were edited 23.15.22 # I am in the USA 23.15.32 # Oregon, to be more precise 23.15.40 # Bagder: any plans on adding the "since...", "last 4 weeks" links somewhere again? 23.15.42 # n1s: I agree, Zagor's doing the front page changes 23.15.50 # * Bagder points to Zagor 23.15.56 # Bagder: Maybe this is Zagor's domain, but the since-4weeks and since-august-2006 pages are no longer linked to (afaics) 23.16.03 # Ah, it is.. ;) 23.16.14 # yes, they should be there somewhere I think so too 23.16.38 # IMO, both files and message are required - one normally doesn't make sense without the other. 23.17.25 # indeed 23.19.14 # it's too bad the c200 doesn't have tv-out.. I'm sure it could play videos if it had the screen for it. 23.19.27 # badger: is it on the mainpage? or where can i find it? 23.19.44 # well, it's more like "I wish" instead of "i'm sure" :) 23.19.50 # maxkelley: It couldn't 23.20.05 # mpegplayer should work well on the c200 - tiny LCD... 23.20.06 # yeah ^^^ 23.20.08 # maxkelley: The portalplayer chips are too slow to play video at 320x240 at more than about 7-10fps 23.20.30 # I thought I heard something about video on the nano? 23.20.34 # linuxstb: can you quickly explain the process to me. so, i'v my diff fyhle. i've registered on flyspray. i create a task. what do i DO WITH my dif file? would i post my modified lang file to the svn repository? 23.20.43 # maxkelley: Yep, video plays relatively well on the Nano 23.20.48 # sofianbabai: You attach the file to your comments. 23.21.03 # well, that's PP, isn't it? :) 23.21.06 Join webguest46 [0] (i=4a469c81@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-12e132f2f3cddf95) 23.21.21 # maxkelley: As I said, at 320x240 23.21.27 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.21.29 # oh, that's true. 23.21.32 # maxkelley: The Nano is 176x132, a fraction of the number of pixels 23.21.51 # On the c200's screen, I'm sure video will run quite well. But if you tried to have the c200 draw it on a bigger screen, not so much. 23.22.02 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-41-104-99.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 23.22.13 # aside from the astonishingly slow refresh rate. 23.22.15 # linuxstb: OK 23.22.54 # maxkelley: Do you know the actual refresh rate of the screen? 23.22.56 # Man, I hope someone makes an auto-intaller for the e200r soon so we don't have to use linux 23.23.09 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@75-128-122-8.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 23.23.18 # webguest46: The auto-installer will probably still require linux for quite some time. 23.23.23 Quit Arathis ("Verlassend") 23.23.28 # no, but even moving the menu item selector leaves ghosting. 23.23.31 # webguest46: I would think that linux would be the easy part, and all the steps be the hard bit. 23.23.40 # webguest46: That's very pessimistic... 23.23.49 # ^That was meant to Llorean.... 23.24.29 # well my comp. is extremely slow so linux would not work well on it. 23.24.37 # Quite the opposite... 23.25.09 Join Marslyr [0] (n=chatzill@c-76-19-74-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.25.13 # + you can use a live cd to run linux without needing to actualy install linux on your computer 23.25.18 # besides, you wouldn't need to run it a lot, just for the little installer 23.25.43 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@86.158.13.55) 23.25.44 # Sorry for the noob question but what is the live cd 23.25.46 # but still, there may exist windows programmers who knows how to communicate over usb... 23.25.48 # Llorean: I'm sure that a large part of the mpegplayer slowness on ipod video is due to the slow lcd updates 23.26.06 # true 23.26.15 # webguest46, a liveCD is a cd you boot from; no hard drive interaction takes place 23.26.19 # system-on-a-disk, basically 23.26.23 # amiconn: It's still not too far off the line shown by the increasing screen size on other portalplayers. 23.26.47 # I can't wait till oled. 23.26.48 # but i would have to either make the cd or buy it, correct? 23.27.01 # Bagder: I'm hopeful. When I said quite some time, it's based on the fact that most people seem to be hoping for something "tomorrow, or the day after" 23.27.09 # make or get... it's free. 23.27.15 # yeah 23.27.18 # webguest46: it is basically an extremely easy way to run linux...download an iso, burn it to a disk, then boot with the disk in, and you are running linux 23.27.19 # webguest46, you can download an image and burn it to disk if you have a CD burner 23.27.32 # really? 23.27.42 # I'm quite pessimistic since not a lot of people are interested in working on/for the e200R, and even less that run windows 23.27.47 # Llorean: Last time I spoke to JdGordon, he was fighting with libusb-win32. Hopefully he'll have some luck. 23.27.48 # do you know of any sites where i could learn to do all of this 23.28.01 # google for "Live CD" 23.28.08 # yay rockbox. 23.28.10 # okay 23.28.19 # webguest46: I'm pretty sure Ubuntu will mail you a free LiveCD too, I think. 23.28.40 # But yes, if we fail to get e200rpatcher running on Windows, a minimal livecd image with e200rpatcher installed will be the next best thing... 23.28.46 # by the time I had gotten mine, I forgot I ordered them. 23.28.48 # webguest46: you can also find USB live stuff (ie you put it on a usb key instead of a CD). That doesn't work on every computer though. 23.28.54 # that was to Llorean 23.29.00 # Llorean: Hahaha. Mail. 23.29.15 # maxkelley: Just pointing out that if w'46 there doesn't have a burner. 23.29.22 # Llorean: "but the delivery may take up to ten weeks" 23.29.28 # i am definitly going to try to make the live cd 23.29.44 # scorche: So he can wait to see if windows installation is done before his free CD arrives. :-p 23.29.47 # I'd think that it shouldn't be too difficult to get usb communication working on windows, but it'd require a dev with windows and a sansa 23.29.55 Quit sofianbabai (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.29.59 # there was supposed to be sound on the c200, right? 23.30.03 # webguest46: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download 23.30.28 # maxkelley: yes 23.30.43 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 23.30.48 # i thought it i read somewhere that it doesn't work with ubuntu? 23.30.49 # hmm.. I'm not getting any. 23.31.13 # ah, nvm. 23.31.15 # where does it say that?...i used ubuntu just fine 23.31.30 # Oh, sorry, must have misread 23.32.32 # linuxstb: your build host fine again? 23.32.45 # I disabled it before due to the build problems on it 23.32.51 # Seems to be - I'm typing this on it... 23.32.57 # It had a bad night... 23.33.01 # ok 23.33.08 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 23.33.13 # hmm.. I'm getting popping. 23.33.46 # Wow, 700MB to download ubuntu 23.33.53 # that's quite a lot 23.34.05 # Bagder: hope you don't mind... I allowed myself to add the rockbox category of your blog to the feeds in ohloh 23.34.15 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 23.34.24 # aha! but no, not at all 23.34.30 # webguest46: that is the typical liceCD 23.34.36 # live 23.34.42 # Bagder: Would it be possible to use the RSS feed here as an "Official" Rockbox RSS? http://cia.vc/stats/project/Rockbox 23.34.52 # scorche: Wow, there must be simpler text-only CDs... 23.34.58 # I've been using it for months now, and find it quite a bit better than the other one. 23.35.17 # linuxstb: there are, but i am looking for "easy" atm 23.35.26 # there is a text-only, maybe i should try that 23.35.34 # feel free to point to another, smaller one 23.35.55 # as long as it gets the job done 23.36.02 # Llorean: how would it be official? you mean adding a link to that somewhere? 23.36.08 # you only need usb support ? 23.36.08 # Yeah 23.36.33 # the gparted live CD has usb support and it's about it 23.36.33 # dionoea: Yes. 23.36.34 # Llorean: what's the other one ? 23.36.36 # Bagder: A link to it on the main page, or really anywhere, so that when people are looking or asking about an RSS they can find it. 23.36.42 # it's small 23.36.45 # has a GUI 23.36.50 # Nico_P: There's one using.. um.. Can't remember the site's name? Same one that people use to index the mailing lists I think? 23.36.53 # doesn't have network support though 23.37.07 # Llorean: ah, gmane ? 23.37.10 # Yeah, gmane 23.37.14 # http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php 23.37.25 # There's an RSS feed through gmane, but in nearly every reader I've tried, the formatting on commit messages is terribly messed up. 23.37.43 Quit Wiwie ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.38.31 # webguest46: you could check that link (you'd only need to download the rockbox files first before booting on the CD since it doesn't have net support) 23.38.48 # i have a program called easy cd creator basic 5 but i don't think that will work. I have a cd burner but does anyone know of free software that i can use to make this livecd? 23.38.59 # oh 23.39.05 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@bas3-montreal28-1177918709.dsl.bell.ca) 23.39.07 # isorecorder might work 23.39.07 # easy cd creator should be able to burn an iso 23.39.13 # haven't used it in ages though 23.39.14 Quit webguest49 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.40.07 # you can use cdburnerxp pro too 23.40.18 # thanks 23.42.31 # I'm going to check out that link now 23.42.48 # Virtually any cd burning app should be able to burn isos 23.43.26 Quit funky ("brb") 23.43.46 # linuxstb: any particular reason you wanted to know where I am? 23.44.49 # imgburn is pretty good for burning CDs 23.45.00 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.45.29 # i am trying to use the easy cd creator 5 basic right now 23.46.15 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 23.47.58 # webguest46, do make sure you are "burning from disk image" or "burning from iso" rather than simply dragging the ISO to a data cd. 23.48.35 Join sofianbabai [0] (n=sof@gar31-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 23.49.11 # is there a big difference 23.49.27 # Chronon: It may affect which dev takes you up on your offer. 23.50.40 # linuxstb: last question : i've posted my patch. but since I can't commit the modified file, how the users could benefit from my modifications ? :) 23.50.48 # linuxstb: OK. Maybe I should check into freight charges on this. 23.51.30 # Chronon: It's not just the freight charges - there may be customs charges to pay if you ship internationally. 23.52.07 # Okay. Thanks for the info. I'll try to find someone in the USA, if possible. 23.55.19 # sofianbabai: The intention is that a developer will commit your patch. 23.56.37 Quit markun ("leaving") 23.57.01 # sofianbabai: It seems you didn't attach a file to your comment... 23.57.05 Join markun [0] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 23.58.51 Quit webguest46 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")