--- Log for 06.10.107 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.08 # not exactly, but i dont think there is a way to do what i wanted. Its okay though. 00.02.45 # zicho: I would also like to go out of a plugin to add some songs to my playlist and go back again 00.03.17 # zicho: you want something like switching between the now playing and a plugin for example ? 00.03.53 # * jhMikeS is going to run another test with the lcd clock source registers being change but _not_ TIMER1 on the COP since he negleted this combo 00.04.10 # toffe82: no, for example if im browsing some files, then i want to hop to "now playing", and then go right back to browsing plugins. 00.05.36 Join VGambit [0] (n=UPP@210.169.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 00.07.00 # zicho: it is the same I mentionned plug in but it can be any other screen, like on a tv the function to switch previous viewed channel and actual channel 00.07.16 # brb 00.07.35 # ahhh, thats sweet. 00.08.12 Join VGambit` [0] (n=UPP@132.168.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 00.08.38 # that combo isn't stable...hrm 00.08.48 # crash at 1908 tests 00.09.25 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 00.09.40 # zicho: you can create a shortcut to the now playing and place it in each folder , so you have half of what you want :) 00.11.59 Quit haemmy (Client Quit) 00.12.23 # toffe82: Is that plugin installed by default? I cant find it. 00.12.25 Join DefineByte [0] (n=DefineBy@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 00.12.59 # When I try to build the manual I get this error: ! LaTeX Error: File `utf8x.def' not found. 00.13.00 # Any ideas? 00.13.15 # Where do I get that from? 00.13.22 # or should I already have it? 00.13.30 # yes, you seem to be missing the unicode package 00.13.43 # (or your setupp :D) 00.13.59 # jhMikeS: Runtime test started (with your patch + dev reset enabled for the small H10) 00.14.18 # DefineByte: are you building on windows are linux? 00.14.25 # *or 00.14.39 # cygwin 00.15.16 # amiconn: since there's two bits and based on the code, I take it that CLCD_CLOCK_SOURCE bits 30 and 31 select one of source #1-#4, correct? 00.15.24 # yes 00.15.35 # But selecting source 1 or 2 makes it hang 00.15.47 # 0 and 3 work 00.15.58 # DefineByte: ok... then you need to install the package manually, the ManualHowto explains it a bit 00.16.25 # I haven't tried it without the COP interrupt though...maybe a quick test 00.16.37 # thanks. I'll check it out (again x)) 00.17.55 # DefineByte: it's the same as the manual installation described for linux and I put the file there were cygwin told me it looked for (above the error message it was I think) 00.18.23 # errm... the manual installation of the unicode package, I meant 00.18.41 # zicho: I never use it ;) the wiki says use the context menu and you have the option add shortcut 00.18.48 # thanks again :) 00.21.57 # hmmm...using #1 isn't hanging now...up to 3000 tests so far 00.22.20 # 0 is 24MHz, 3 is PLL 00.23.36 # 0x40000000 00.23.42 # The temporary switch to 24MHz during pll reprogramming is from the ipod color firmware. Back in July, the color froze a lot without that measure 00.23.46 # I'm think 0,1,2,3 00.23.51 # Interesting... 00.24.09 # 7000 tests 00.24.15 # When I tested, 1 or 2 made it hang immediately, always 00.25.08 # Maybe I did something wrong back then 00.25.22 # what key sets CPUFREQ_DEFAULT on H10? 00.25.37 # A test_fps run at 80MHz would be interesting with 1 or 2 00.25.38 # oh, found it 00.25.56 Quit VGambit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.26.15 # 49/194 00.26.28 # Compared to? (at 3) 00.26.29 # 1/2 the #0 results 00.26.33 # where can i read about how to create my own WPS? 00.26.34 # ah 00.26.42 # So 24MHz for all except 3 00.27.33 Join Fordibolo` [0] (n=hrquelll@bzq-88-155-200-244.red.bezeqint.net) 00.28.18 # 0x40000000 isn't #2? 00.28.23 Join Fordibolo`` [0] (n=hrquelll@bzq-79-179-110-189.red.bezeqint.net) 00.28.29 # hi again 00.28.32 # I'll try 0x80000000 00.28.32 # where can i read about how to create my own WPS? 00.30.09 # SimpleGuideToWPSMaking, CustomWPS in the wiki and study other WPSs 00.30.16 # still 1/2 the usual 00.30.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 00.30.53 # thx 00.31.10 Quit kubiix ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.33.20 # jhMikeS: Huh, 1/2 of the results of #0? 00.33.34 # I would expect that #1 and #2 are equally fast as #0 00.33.48 # ..and #3 more than twice as fast (at 80 MHz) 00.36.12 # you set 0xc0000000, 0x40000000 and 0x80000000 both gave 1/2 frame rate of SVN 00.41.48 Join syn4pse [0] (n=syn4pse@cpe-075-176-155-093.sc.res.rr.com) 00.45.21 # well, as far as I know everything is in the right place and it still won't build the manual >>< 00.45.32 # >. DefineByte: did you run the mktexlsr command? 00.48.08 # oops 00.48.46 # IIRC you can run it from everywhere, as I understood it'll collect the correct paths 00.48.58 # it's late, I'm tired, yadayadayada :D 00.52.07 # ./getting_started/installation.tex:149: Package utf8x Error: Character 145 appeared alone. 00.52.07 # I have no idea where to begin with that one. 00.52.10 # * pixelma is a bit confused too but ok 00.52.47 # it wants a friend? :/ 00.53.34 # hmm... no idea now. I think bluebrother would be the best to talk to 00.54.14 # shame he's not around then. Ah well, thanks for your help 00.54.20 # :) 00.54.31 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.56.23 Join luckyone_ [0] (n=jordan@CPE-65-28-7-102.kc.res.rr.com) 00.56.25 # wait... is that already with your changes to the installation.tex? 00.56.47 # yes. I'm guessing an error somewhere 00.57.02 # in line 149, I think 00.58.12 # tried to build an svn manual too? 00.58.23 # Can someone link me to the site about Last.fm in rockbox? I cant find it in the wiki. 00.58.26 # hello all, I just reinstalled today's build of rockbox on my ipod mini 2g and it loads rockbox, and just says "Rockbox loaded.", doesn't take me to the file menu like usual 00.58.29 # no, good idea x) 00.59.11 # DefineByte: because I'm not sure if it still got to do with your unicode package or if it's an error in your "code" 00.59.26 # has anyone got to time to see if one of my patches compile with no errors or warnings? 00.59.36 # zicho: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog 00.59.37 # has anyone got time 01.00.14 # thank you very much toffe82. 01.00.46 # when you call a button_get(true), then call another button_get(true), how come the second acts like button_get(false)? 01.02.16 # i have tried a button_clear_queue() with no effect. 01.03.20 Quit ender (" Going to church does not make a person religious, nor does going to school make a person educated, any more than going to a ) 01.03.47 # do we support the flash reader on the sansas? 01.04.08 # the flash reader? 01.04.13 # microsd slot 01.04.45 # on the e series yes (even sdhc) - not yet on the c200 01.04.53 # ok 01.05.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.07.02 # do you know if it is because the hw is different or because nobody has tested? 01.07.06 # hmm, it builds 01.07.12 # but with a few errors 01.07.28 Quit obo ("bye") 01.07.31 # I guess it's a problem with my edits then 01.08.19 # Zagor: I think it's again hooked up differently, I'm not sure but I think low_light was trying some things today (but didn't follow closely) 01.09.18 # pixelma: how big does sdhc for microSD? 01.09.46 # luckyone_: 4gb 01.09.48 # Zagor: he once said he had no card so couldn't try. Don't know if that's changed recently 01.11.41 # iamben: yes, 4gb - 2nd generation 01.11.50 # heh, sorry! 01.12.06 # iamben: I thought you were helping me with my iPod mini boot issue! 01.12.28 # no ipod here 01.12.33 Quit n1s () 01.12.45 # I have sansa e260 and ipod mini 01.13.08 # the build I just put on my mini doesn't get past the "Rockbox loaded." screen 01.13.11 # toffe82: Have you gotten mpegplayer to work fine with gigabeat? 01.13.45 # zicho : i didn't use it for a long time but it was working fine 01.14.03 # what did you use for encoding? 01.14.23 # zicho: test first with the movie elephant dream http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Sample_videos 01.14.24 # luckyone_: how old was the build you had on before? 01.14.38 # i tried encoding with mencoder, and it worked fine in mplayer. But on the gigabeat I didnt get any picture and the audio was slow. 01.15.45 Quit linuxstb_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 01.15.56 # zicho: do you use the settings from the wiki ? 01.16.47 # toffe82: that took like 100 years to encode. 01.19.00 # even for just a 21 minute long avi-file, 640 x 480. 01.19.58 # pixelma: probably pretty old... 01.20.18 # pixelma: probably 4 to 6 months? maybe more... 01.21.25 # zicho: I am also how long it takes my dual core machine to encode at sansa's resolution 01.21.43 # zicho: i am also *flabergasted* 01.22.19 # zicho: I don't know so much because I don't use it for a long time now , perhaps somebody else can answer better than me 01.23.03 # luckyone_: Im experimenting with mencoder settings and such. Can notify you if a find a good way. 01.23.21 # maybe you need to update your bootloader then, especially if it's more. The manual also has updae intructions (part of the installation instructions) and if you still find a rockbox.ipod file in the root of your player you need to delete it. It is in the .rockbox directory now and the zip comes set up correctly 01.23.37 # what do the permissions on .rockbox/ need to be? 01.24.11 # is -drwx------ fine? 01.24.22 # excuse me drwx------ 01.24.49 # pixelma: I got a card with the new c240 for testing, and it isn't mounted on boot and no activity on card change 01.25.19 # luckyone_: no idea, I just unzip it and don't care about these, it comes correctly (note: I also don't have an Ipod) 01.25.51 Part toffe82 01.26.04 # and it seems to me like all the necessary code is enabled. so perhaps there is some difference. 01.26.36 Join signuts [0] (n=sig@38.99.18.98) 01.26.44 # Hey.I'm going to return my stupid 6th gen classic ipod 01.26.51 # Zagor: doesn't it need to be enabled (some bits or so, which I believe are different to the e200)? 01.26.55 # and prolly pickup a device that supports rockbox 01.27.09 # Is there a page that shows what is supported by each device? 01.27.41 # pixelma: yeah there is a card detect function that checks gpio pins. those could differ. 01.27.56 # signuts: Try http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart 01.28.09 # ahh. Here we are 01.28.12 # Sweet 01.28.40 # Zagor: yeah, I meant pins... *am tired* 01.28.43 # I like ipod, but I just got a 6th gen and am getting rid of it because apple intentially hurts the competition 01.28.59 # 6th gen is the latest isnt it? 01.29.05 # yeah 01.29.13 # pixelma: well, they are bits in the register so that is correct too :) 01.29.28 # :) 01.31.21 # but I say goodnight now... 01.33.10 Part pixelma 01.33.14 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.34.58 Join RoC_MasterMind__ [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.35.16 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Client Quit) 01.35.20 Quit RoC_MasterMind__ (Client Quit) 01.35.24 # signuts: How does rockbox work on it? Does it, even? 01.35.30 Join low_light [0] (i=4cbdfa51@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6ac45468769aa4f4) 01.35.37 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.35.50 # zicho, rockbox doesn't run on the 6th gen ipods. 01.35.58 Join RoC_MasterMind__ [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.36.04 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Client Quit) 01.36.07 Quit RoC_MasterMind__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.36.13 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.36.28 # zicho, I guess I should try before I return it :) 01.36.28 # low_light: have you looked anything on the sd slot on c200? 01.36.44 # zicho: Apple completely changed their hardware design starting with the 2nd gen Nano, including a brand new CPU. So it will need a brand new port for Rockbox to work on it. 01.36.50 Join RoC_MasterMind__ [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.36.58 # Ah. 01.36.59 # Zagor: I'll be brief...the microsd detection is on GPIOL bit 0x8 (I think, check the debug screen as you insert). I haven't figured out how to enable the interrupts for it. 01.37.23 # ok 01.37.40 # Perhaps you can have a go...you'll notice in pp5024.h that there are two different gpio masks 01.38.03 # I couldn't get either to work 01.38.14 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Client Quit) 01.38.36 # GPIOL bit 0x8 looks right 01.40.47 Quit iamben (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.47 # Is the mpeg player designed to play movies in wide screen? because when i played a movie it flipped the picture 90 degrees so i hade to turn the player 90 degrees to make it look right. 01.43.12 # I'm off to bed 01.43.14 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.44.02 # <|Rain|> zicho: the sansa is, yes 01.44.25 # I guess that gigabeat is too. Because it has a "vertical" screen. 01.44.44 # <|Rain|> probably 01.46.13 # =D 01.47.07 # <|Rain|> what does stkov mean, anyway? 01.47.32 # stack overflow 01.48.06 # and yeah at first I thought it was a russian surname :P 01.48.24 # <|Rain|> oh. well, that seems obvious now that I know 01.48.24 # <|Rain|> hahah, that's what I thought too :D 01.50.03 # Sergej Stkov. 01.51.28 # heh 01.51.46 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.51.54 # luckyone_: Managed to get movies workin fine. 01.52.23 Quit DefineByte () 01.53.56 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 01.54.33 Join FirstKnight [0] (n=FirstKni@212.35.85.224) 01.54.56 # hi room 01.57.18 Quit HellDragon ("See you at the bitter end.") 01.57.38 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.59.23 Quit FirstKnight (Client Quit) 01.59.40 Join ATravelingGeek [0] (n=ATG@pdpc/supporter/student/ATravelingGeek) 02.00.13 Part low_light 02.00.59 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.01.13 Join BigMac [0] (n=me@c-67-189-251-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 02.01.33 # <|Rain|> apparently, I overflowed the stack in thread "" on core 6... 02.01.36 # * |Rain| grumbles 02.02.10 Quit A_M () 02.12.03 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Connection timed out) 02.15.07 Join psycho_maniac [0] (n=psycho_m@ppp111.hk.centurytel.net) 02.16.13 Quit syn4pse ("Time wasted on IRC: 1 hour 34 minutes 42 seconds") 02.17.20 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.40 # Hello, I have been trying to get rockbox on my sansa e260R but when I run the e200tool i get "Control message (-71, Protocol error)". I had it finish once but my sansa screen said "keys locked" and shut off. Any help is appreciated 02.19.32 Join webguest19 [0] (i=546861c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1dc9ea915a6b142a) 02.19.52 Part webguest19 02.20.09 Join sin613 [0] (n=pbarton@dsl-134-129-144-51.und.nodak.edu) 02.21.45 # where is the actions for buttons in the menus? 02.21.50 # are 02.21.55 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 02.23.00 Join Fordibolo [0] (n=hrquelll@bzq-79-178-6-25.red.bezeqint.net) 02.23.03 Quit Fordibolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.23.36 Join Fordibolo [0] (n=hrquelll@bzq-79-178-6-25.red.bezeqint.net) 02.26.25 Join ^TiLT^ [0] (i=TiLT@xdsl-87-78-209-39.netcologne.de) 02.26.29 # <^TiLT^> hi all 02.26.54 # <^TiLT^> gives a version for the 3gen of the Ipod nano ? 02.30.03 # only 1st gen nano 02.30.43 # <^TiLT^> fuck 02.30.46 # <^TiLT^> fuck 02.30.48 # <^TiLT^> fuck fuck 02.30.50 # <^TiLT^> :/ 02.31.13 # nugget240, are you using sudo when doing the steps 02.32.50 # nugget240, are you reading the steps right 02.35.56 # <^TiLT^> iss angapod cool alternate to itunes ? 02.37.27 # that is off topic ^TiLT^ 02.40.04 Join rich0 [0] (n=rich@gentoo/contributor/rich0) 02.40.08 # advcomp2019: thank you for the response. When i use sudo it asks the password but it wont accept it so I have not been using sudo 02.41.09 # that can be your issue nugget240 02.41.34 Quit Fordibolo`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.40 Quit ^TiLT^ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 02.42.34 # Alright, thank you for the help. I'll try a few things and hope it works 02.49.04 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 02.54.23 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.01.12 Nick HellDragon is now known as Bitter (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 03.01.27 # A little update. I tried multiple times using sudo and logged in as root and every time I still get "Control message (-71, Protocol error)". Is there anything else that could be causing this? 03.04.00 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.05.23 # nugget240, are you sure you have r series 03.05.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.05.38 # 100% 03.05.50 # on the back it says model: e260r 03.06.00 # in the menu there are rhapsody options 03.07.47 # nugget240, ok, are you holding the REC button when do the e200tool 03.07.55 # every time 03.12.28 # nugget240, which linux distro are you using 03.12.50 # currently I'm using pclinux2007 03.13.15 # I also tried using ubuntu 03.21.29 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 03.21.53 Join marcosource [0] (i=marco@cakebox.net) 03.27.01 Quit qweru ("moo") 03.32.05 Quit Soap () 03.38.46 # what file is go_to_recscreen declared in? 03.38.49 # () 03.44.04 # nugget240, are you using manufacturing mode when using the e200tool 03.45.47 # I hold the center button and plug in the usb cable then the light turns blue 03.46.57 # nugget240, do you have the hold switch turned on 03.47.03 # yes 03.48.59 Join Drumr [0] (n=albee@ool-44c2019c.dyn.optonline.net) 03.50.08 # Hello, i have just created a post in the "new ports" section of the forum and i am curious to know if anyone shares my interest in porting rockbox to the "mp4 watch" AKA Anlong AD688FM 03.50.26 Nick tictoc is now known as merlin` (i=tabac@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 03.50.45 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13101.0 this is my post 03.52.50 # new ports are started by people with both the inclination and know-how. 03.53.34 # if you don't know C and have some embedded experience, you need someone who does that has the device. meaningful work generally won't be done by people that don't have the device, especially because it's a new port 03.54.13 # alright. i figured it would be an interesting project because many cheap chinese players share this infastructure 03.55.06 # if they share the same chips, there might be another port with a little headway on the forums. 03.55.20 # * ATravelingGeek wonders if it'd be possible to port rockbox to a car head unit 03.55.54 # in any case, you ought to read this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort 03.57.24 # yup ive read it thanks 03.57.37 # actually i'd like to request write status in the wiki... 03.57.44 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@84.177.68.98) 03.57.58 # ill post up the info (and pictures) i have if thats alright 04.02.30 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 04.05.50 Nick merlin` is now known as merlin__ (i=tabac@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 04.06.42 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.07.00 Quit webmind (Remote closed the connection) 04.07.04 Join webmind [0] (n=webmind@u2m.nl) 04.07.48 # does anyone here have the privileges to grant me write status? 04.13.22 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.13.28 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.13.47 # Drumr: what are you intending on changing? :) 04.13.56 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6311.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.14.51 Quit nugget240 (Remote closed the connection) 04.15.36 Quit Genre9mp3 () 04.16.04 # Drumr: forget that, I don't know how to anyway 04.18.41 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=xavier@ppp46-205.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.20.15 Nick merlin__ is now known as tictoc (i=tabac@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 04.20.42 Quit random_desu_is_s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.23.31 Join Fordibolo` [0] (n=hrquelll@bzq-88-155-109-72.red.bezeqint.net) 04.25.37 # TMM: i want to change the firmware to Rockbox :-D 04.25.49 # and i want write status to make a page on the AD866FM 04.27.14 # Drumr: I don't know HOW :) 04.29.18 # :-) thats ok 04.29.47 # Drumr: one moment if I recall correctly a subscribed member has to add you somewhere 04.30.01 # I think I can do it but I don't remember how :P 04.30.27 # Xavier... your nick seems familiar 04.30.42 # the status can wait, its not a big deal 04.30.55 # Drumr: have you registered? 04.30.59 # yes 04.31.03 Join animeloe [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 04.31.09 # under "PerryC" 04.31.10 # Drumr: familiar as for the XavierGr or only the Xavier part? 04.31.25 Quit Fordibolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.32.00 # um not sure, i recall your name in the h3x0's perhaps? 04.32.45 # I am not sure maybe 04.32.48 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-136-34.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) 04.32.58 # i was big with the h300's, then moved to ipod 5g. now, my clickwheels broke so im using a zen micro and im trying to get the mp4 watch to be usable :-/ 04.33.00 # damn it I don't remember/know how to add you, let me search a little bit more on this 04.33.14 # its alright dont knock yourself out i can wait 04.33.15 # (maybe I can't I don't have a clue :P ) 04.33.44 # XavierGr: you add there name to a wiki page? 04.34.27 # yes, I think so 04.34.33 # I think I found it let me try 04.35.30 # it has something to do with write privileges but i cant find that wiki page 04.35.38 # Drumr: try now 04.36.16 # yay 04.36.19 # :-) 04.36.19 # XavierGr: what page was it? just to to cure my curiosity. 04.36.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup 04.37.08 # Drumr: now I think you can add users too, so if anyone asks for add him there :) 04.37.34 # do you know what it means when a name is highlighted? 04.37.38 # Drumr: Thought I think that your wiki name should have your surname too 04.37.52 # psycho_maniac: I think it has a wiki link 04.38.12 # its listed its just not the display name i suppose? 04.38.17 # new users must make a page with their wiki name 04.38.17 # not sure 04.38.25 # then their wiki name is linkified 04.39.17 # oh i see. 04.39.23 # Drumr: did you make a new page with your wiki name or was it created automatically? 04.39.40 # ah forget that 04.39.50 # how it could be generated automatically with your details? 04.39.52 # heh 04.46.28 Quit animeloe ("Leaving") 04.52.31 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 04.52.53 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 04.53.14 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD95599C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.54.46 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.54.59 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6520.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.59.57 Join charlie [0] (i=43c17c4b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-28140dcc937e4614) 05.00.21 # Hello 05.00.29 Quit psycho_maniac ("Good Bye") 05.01.09 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.02.33 Join animeloe [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 05.04.27 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 05.05.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.09.44 Quit charlie ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.14.30 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.16.19 Join bb__ [0] (n=bb@dslb-088-074-134-252.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.23.54 Quit rich0 (Client Quit) 05.24.01 Join SS_AZ [0] (n=Stephan@ip68-2-137-193.ph.ph.cox.net) 05.24.05 Quit RoC_MasterMind__ ("Leaving") 05.24.21 # is there a way i can run threw the files quick? scroll wheel is very slow. 05.24.22 Join webguest25 [0] (i=d59e928c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6285f15b13b7d381) 05.24.27 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 05.24.45 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A95419.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.26.48 # also what does crossfeed do 05.26.48 Quit webguest25 (Client Quit) 05.27.21 Join sid [0] (n=unstable@tor/regular/sid) 05.27.27 # How can I tell what version of rockbox I have? 05.27.45 Quit bb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.29.37 # goto the system menu then version 05.30.36 # I have a really low battery 05.30.39 # I'm charing, heh. 05.30.47 # I can't go to menu or anything while it charges 05.31.06 # I want to update it to the latest version, this is probably about a year old 05.31.36 # sid 05.31.57 # http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip 05.32.00 # if you eject the ipod (or whatever it is) you should be able to use it while charging 05.32.02 # I just download that and unzip it? 05.32.04 # is it that simple? 05.32.15 # VGambit`: ahh, good idea. 05.32.27 # sid, what do you use to put music on rockbox? 05.33.05 # ,v 05.33.08 # mv* rather 05.33.19 # hm 05.33.39 # I umounted the usb device, it says "ok to disconnect", but it still doesn't let me go to menu. 05.34.35 # All I do is unzip that url onto my rockbox.. overwrite the rockbox.ipod binary.. and it's updated to the latest? 05.35.04 # vgambit maybe you can help me 05.35.12 # sid dunno 05.35.13 # the scroll speed in display menu isnt working 05.35.17 # i have 25000 mp3s 05.35.20 # SS_AZ I have no idea 05.35.27 # I just started using this yesterday 05.35.30 # and scrolling takes over 15 minutes literally, it goes 1 by 1 :\ 05.35.40 # sid is that in rockbox or apple fw? 05.35.41 # very hard to drive and browse!! 05.35.47 # you want me driving next to you looking at 6px font 05.35.51 # for 15 minutes? i dont think so! 05.35.54 # help me out lol 05.35.59 # SS_AZ set up playlists 05.36.05 # i have playlists 05.36.10 # and they are over 1500 songs in each 05.36.14 # why? 05.36.16 # i still wanna select single songs from my playlist 05.36.21 # cause i drive a lot 05.36.24 # that defeats the purpose 05.36.24 # and dont like making play lists daily 05.36.28 # no it doesnt 05.36.34 # i have 25000 mp3s from full albums 05.36.39 # I drive 750 miles a week 05.36.44 # of those, i create albums of my favorite music 05.36.50 # and whil ei am at home, i have the same music playing 24/7 05.37.00 # set aside an hour or two to make playlists of stuff you life 05.37.01 # like* 05.37.03 # better yet 05.37.08 # 2 hours a day is a lot 05.37.16 # better yet, software should work :) 05.37.18 # only put music you like on your ipod in the first place 05.37.22 # ive installed it for a reason 05.37.25 # ipods main interface was still better 05.37.30 # only bad thing was it took 10 minutes to get into 05.37.32 # that way you just hit shuffle or whatever 05.37.38 # if you don't like it, hit skip 05.37.44 # and when i need to find my song 05.37.47 # at the end of 15000 files?/ 05.37.56 # and SS_AZ there are themes with big fonts 05.37.57 # i side swipe you :P 05.38.01 # yeah 05.38.06 # then I sue you 05.38.08 # yeah big fonts still wont help when the songs 05.38.10 # only go 1 x 1 05.38.12 # lol good luck 05.38.15 # hm 05.38.16 # id leave the country and youd be fucked 05.38.18 # :P 05.38.24 # not before the cops hit the scene 05.38.30 # wanna bet? 05.38.32 # 30 minutes to mexico :p 05.38.39 # at the very least you lose your car 05.38.44 # yeah 05.38.44 # then you can never come back to the US 05.38.45 # come on 05.38.48 # actually yeah you can 05.38.53 # 3 years after that type of incident 05.38.54 # and you cant sue ;) 05.38.55 # and get arrested 05.38.56 # and i can come back 05.38.57 # nope 05.39.01 # hit and run = illegal 05.39.04 # yeah and after 3 years 05.39.07 # they cant do anything ;) 05.39.15 # I thought it was 20 something years? 05.39.22 # or is that just for certain crimes? 05.39.23 # no, only if someones hurt 05.39.26 # ah 05.39.30 # and if I'm hurt? lol 05.39.37 # then youre a .. i cant say ;X 05.39.46 # ow I skinned my kneww 05.39.47 # knee* 05.39.52 # ouch 05.39.54 # there's an injury 05.40.03 # lol smart ass 05.40.13 # anyway SS_AZ I have no idea 05.40.19 # I complained about scroll speed myself 05.40.22 Quit Fordibolo` ("ΰν ιω βδιπεν εζδ μΰ λΰο εςλωιε, ιω ξφα ωημχλν ιβις ΰμιε!") 05.46.59 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.50.01 # darn thank you anyway man :) 05.59.04 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.59.28 # this channel is about rockbox topics only, please carry off-topic conversations in #rockbox-community, 05.59.43 Quit Bitter (Client Quit) 06.00.41 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 06.01.11 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 06.04.27 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 06.05.08 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 06.07.59 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 06.08.18 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 06.08.40 # homielowe, the scroll settings in rockbox are not rockbox topics? 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Way to go, robot! 07.04.33 # hello from Kkurbjun, markun, and me! 07.05.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.06.08 # hello 07.07.00 Join Isolinear [0] (n=A@c-76-105-254-119.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.08.49 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 07.08.52 Join webguest02 [0] (i=18ec7c6f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-799a805b5aff35da) 07.09.52 Quit webguest02 (Client Quit) 07.11.48 Part SS_AZ 07.16.20 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 07.26.37 # im having an error compiling a build i even compiled in a new folder and still got the error. i just patched this a couple days ago. what is wrong? http://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07406/error_patch.GIF 07.35.58 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Client Quit) 07.37.11 # wonder what i did wrong. it seems to be compiling correctly now 07.37.27 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 07.38.30 Join markun_ [0] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 07.38.38 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 07.39.07 Quit markun (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.49.28 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 07.55.46 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.55.46 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 07.56.33 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 08.02.36 # alright anybody know why i am getting this error? 08.03.06 # im thinking since i reverted the patch cleaned up the folder and even compiled in a new folder that the patch is out of date 08.03.55 # jhMikeS: Looks like my battery isn't the best anymore. 5h 05min runtime... pretty impressive for that H10. 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Doesn't hurt and keeps the code simple... 09.30.56 # is changing irqs with every button press expensive? let's take playing doom as an example... 09.31.32 # not just changing irq levels, but also the pcf50606_write 09.31.44 # <|Rain|> does that code actually get run when you're in doom? 09.31.49 # <|Rain|> (on every button press) 09.31.59 # i don't know, i'm not that intimate with the code base. :) 09.32.21 # <|Rain|> speaking of backlights 09.32.41 # <|Rain|> I wonder if anyone has made a patch that fades the backlight in/out instead of a simple on/off transition 09.32.53 # that's what i was working on 09.32.55 # ha 09.33.00 # <|Rain|> heh! 09.33.28 # <|Rain|> looks like someone made one for the e200, but it has problems: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6800 09.33.29 # the problem is that it's all jerky unless the fade loop happens between changing irq levels 09.33.43 # Rockbox already has backlight fading, but that's not possible on the X5 09.33.58 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 09.34.02 # it's possible, but it's an ugly hack 09.34.17 # because the code has to go in backlight-x5.c... and it shouldn't go there 09.34.28 # It requires either a backlight that's controlled via GPIO (like on iriver H1x0, ipods), or a backlight pwm controller with enough steps 09.34.49 # The pwm steps of the pcf50606 are too coarse for fading (only 13 usable steps) 09.35.00 # amiconn: i've already tested it on my x5. it's a cheap fade, but it's a fade 09.35.27 # it looks more polished than on/off 09.35.33 # but there's no clean way to do it 09.35.43 Quit psycho_maniac ("Good Bye") 09.35.49 # coming back to __backlight_on() being called with every button press... 09.36.47 # since the fading is jerky unless it happens inside __backlight_on()... well, every time you press a button the backlight fades in (fairly smoothly, i might add) 09.37.08 # <|Rain|> track the backlight state with a static or global var? 09.38.51 # that would be nice 09.39.05 # The backlight thread would have to handle such a fade, in conjunction with the backlight tick 09.39.56 # But on targets where the backlight is hooked to the pcf, it's really not worth it 09.40.10 # i thought it was worth it when i tested it 09.40.15 # :) 09.40.29 # so now i've got what i like 09.40.52 # On gigabeat it might be better with its 64 pwm steps 09.40.55 # buuut, i have to make backlight_on() check if the backlight is already on 09.41.03 # (the software pwm on H1x0 and ipod uses 100 steps) 09.41.24 # sin613: Nope, you'd have to add code to the backlight tick and backlight thread 09.41.32 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.41.40 # the fading on those is much better, no doubt 09.41.47 # __backlight_on() is the hardware specific code to switch the light on, unconditionally 09.42.23 # On X5, you have very few steps left if the backlight isn't set to full brightness 09.42.31 # * amiconn has usually set it to 8..10 09.42.57 # And fade-in is a bad idea on colour LCDs, unless it's a very quick fade-in 09.43.26 # <|Rain|> I'd vote for very quick fade-in anyway, but just out of curiosity -- why single out colour LCDs? 09.43.29 # What I (still) want to implement is a half-bright step before switching the backlight off 09.43.52 # Because colour LCDs are (usually) unreadable without backlight 09.43.54 # backlight_update_state 09.44.00 # There are very few exceptions 09.44.28 # (the only rockbox targets with transflective colour LCDs are the ipod video and nano) 09.45.43 # <|Rain|> ah, I see what you're saying 09.46.08 # <|Rain|> half-bright step -- you mean a second timer at half brightness before fading completely? (as many cell phones do) 09.46.50 # yes 09.47.17 # amiconn: have you got time to answer a couple of questions? 09.47.20 # On targets that have hardware pwm, i.e. iaudio X5 and iriver H300, and probably gigabeat (but that I can't do myself) 09.47.25 # 3 09.47.50 # The half-bright step would of course be configurable 09.47.57 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 09.48.23 # <|Rain|> I think I'd like that even more than fading, though I'd like to see both (I'd prefer a fairly quick fade out and an even quicker fade in, so the lack of brightness steps probably wouldn't be a terribly big deal -- I'd have to it, though) 09.49.06 # <|Rain|> I don't even know if you can send the messages fast enough on the e200 since the backlight is controlled via i2c 09.56.27 # On X5 it's also i2c controlled 09.57.02 # ..and on several other targets too - that's the reason why __backlight_on() isn't called directly from the backlight tick 09.59.44 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.59.44 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 10.00.36 # what is the user setting for backlight brightness? 10.06.35 Join random_desu_is_s [0] (n=chatzill@inet-out.dsl-nat.sura.ru) 10.11.29 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 10.12.08 Quit kubiix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.20.11 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.25.21 Join webguest07 [0] (i=5c71da77@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e539c6909f88e902) 10.25.52 Join kubrick [0] (i=presence@irev.net) 10.26.02 Quit Presence (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.26.21 Quit webguest07 (Client Quit) 10.26.26 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.30.30 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.30.46 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.39.01 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 10.42.13 Join stevenm [0] (n=stevenm@129.2.201.58) 10.42.18 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.42.23 Quit stevenm (Client Quit) 10.44.53 Quit pixelma (" reboot") 10.47.41 # is there a nanosleep() in rockbox? 10.47.46 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030937.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.54.59 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.56.58 Join kubrick_ [0] (i=presence@irev.net) 10.58.28 Quit kubrick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.59.38 Join Chronon [0] (n=knoppix@c-24-21-45-96.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 11.01.01 # linuxstb: you just wanted to get that revision... ;) 11.02.14 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.02.49 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.04.40 # g'day europe =) 11.04.46 # morning 11.05.26 Quit tictoc (Remote closed the connection) 11.05.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.06.05 Join DefineByte [0] (n=DefineBy@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 11.06.28 Part DefineByte 11.06.58 Quit scorche|ltop (Remote closed the connection) 11.10.02 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A586A.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.11.18 # pixelma: ;) I didn't notice... 11.11.41 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.12.38 # lol 11.15.40 # can any of the functions in backlight.c access the backlight value in settings? 11.18.18 # sin613: Not directly - firmware code has no knowledge of apps/. But there should be a function exported by firmware/ which the apps code calls to tell firmware the current backlight setting - probably set_backlight_something... 11.19.39 # i know i can backlight_set_brightness(), but i'm hoping i can retrieve the value that's already set 11.20.03 # sin613: you mean in the source code? 11.20.09 # yes 11.20.52 # i've got a quick backlight fade in/out for the x5 (verrrry quick), but i'm just going between MIN_ and MAX_BACKLIGHT_SETTING 11.21.08 # ideally i would be using the user setting as the max 11.21.32 # sin613: settings.h might help. It has all the variables that hold the value of the settings (I think) 11.21.38 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 11.21.50 # i'll give it a check 11.21.59 # anyway timeformat is in it and that is a setting ("time format" setting) 11.22.14 # what exactly are you looking for? 11.22.28 # the user-selected backlight brightness 11.22.45 # sin613: can't you just look up and compare how it's done for Ipods and H100? 11.23.03 # the fading? 11.23.23 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD95599C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.24.02 # yes, and how that 'interacts' with the other brightness settings 11.24.34 Quit MethoS- (Client Quit) 11.24.41 Quit atsea-34 (Remote closed the connection) 11.25.28 # (02:39:05 AM) amiconn: The backlight thread would have to handle such a fade, in conjunction with the backlight tick 11.25.29 # (02:39:56 AM) amiconn: But on targets where the backlight is hooked to the pcf, it's really not worth it 11.25.50 # the x5 has backlight hooked to the pcf, so i don't believe i can go about it in a similar manner 11.27.05 # i could be wrong, way wrong 11.27.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet16.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.27.39 # but my understanding as to why the x5 never received fading was because it couldn't be done the same way as ipods 11.31.59 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.32.22 # hey all 11.36.07 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.36.11 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 11.36.25 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.40.32 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 11.41.09 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.243.132) 11.41.56 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 11.42.56 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.13) 11.43.36 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 11.51.21 Quit Chronon ("Zzzz") 11.51.24 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 11.52.23 # pixelma: you round? 11.54.56 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 11.55.02 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c1344.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 11.57.25 Join _spanner_ [0] (n=pete@82.138.219.95) 11.58.22 # round? I hope you won't describe me this way... ;) 11.58.37 # i know better than to even suggest that sort of thing :) 11.58.54 # will you be terribly annoyed if I commit the themes menu cleanup? 11.59.12 # want to get it in before i have to really start exam studying :p 11.59.21 # <_spanner_> How can I quickly scroll throuch a long list of songs on an ipod video? The manual talks about using the "fast forward" and "rewind" buttons to get accelerated scrolling, but the ipod video doesn't have these buttons... 11.59.57 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.59.58 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 12.00.39 # JdGordon: hmm... maybe not - but I haven't tried the patch yet so can't comment on in detail 12.00.52 # im asking more for the lack pf maual update 12.01.08 # i highly doubt anyone would feel the change is for the worse 12.02.19 # I figured but I can't tell for sure what I would rate higher - the benefit it could bring (because I haven't tried) or the lack of the manual update... 12.04.21 # as for the PLA message, yeah, not my finest hour :p I'd remove it if I wasnt so lazy :p 12.04.53 # maybe I'm not the best to talk to, that's what I wanted to say 12.06.43 # What is the themes and menu cleanup? 12.07.09 # fs#7458 i think 12.07.39 # 7864 even 12.07.46 # 3/4 numbers right :D 12.07.52 # lol 12.12.39 # no wonder you hate maths :P 12.12.45 # lol 12.12.57 # So how would the menus tree out once this is applied? 12.13.09 # the only change is in one of the comments 12.13.21 # just cleans up the lcd settings menu under display setings 12.13.34 # unless you have a colour tagret youll never notice it 12.13.57 # 5G ;) 12.15.28 # Did the line selector stuff get put into a submenu or is it still in Theme Settings with this patch? 12.15.49 # Any demand for a translucent line selector? 12.16.29 # Isolinear: its now in a submenu 12.16.34 # stripwax: go for it :D 12.16.41 # I demand an accelerated selector... :P 12.16.50 # ;) 12.17.49 # 7738 anyone? :D 12.18.22 # JdGordon: Looks good. I say go for it. 12.18.37 # care to right up the manul entry for it? 12.18.40 Quit ddalton (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.21.06 # Sure, as soon as I figure out how to edit it... :) 12.21.58 # jhMikeS: (reading thorugh logs) I patched my bootloader ages ago to boot from the mSD, but never commited that code 12.22.02 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host176-169-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.22.54 Join BigMac [0] (n=me@c-67-189-251-28.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 12.23.02 # JdGordon: Appears to be a bit more complex than simply making changes to a wiki... Care to give me a crash course in contributing to the manual? 12.23.33 # not really... pixelma will be able to point you int he right direction though 12.24.17 # I'm all ears. 12.24.26 # ...eyes.. 12.24.40 # Whatever.. Someone teach me.. lol 12.27.16 # Isolinear: it'll already be very helpful if you could simple write a nice description of it in plain text and post it to the tracker (and if you have the insight, state which targets it applies to - e.g. menu x will be in settings for all targets but colour settings only on colour targets, of course) 12.28.41 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.29.37 # Just as soon as I remember my login for the tracker... :) 12.29.53 # or if you know a bit about tex or feel like diving into, then you could have a look at the manual source (part of svn) - it's not that hard I think, didn't know something about it before I started working a bit with the Rockbox manual myself 12.30.37 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.35.12 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 12.36.59 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.37.15 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.39.07 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 12.39.08 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.40.41 # pixelma: Aren't there different versions of the manual depending on the target? 12.41.15 # In other words, shouldn't I write two descriptions? One for color targets and another for non-color targets? 12.41.41 # The second one simply omitting any references to color settings... 12.43.30 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p508A586A.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.43.50 # the manuals are all made from the same source - some things are excluded from some targets or only included for a specific targets (similar to the ifs in c code) 12.43.50 Quit Arathis (Connection timed out) 12.44.48 Quit BigMac ("Leaving") 12.45.11 # I see... So should I just write it for color targets and let whomever commits it take care of the exclusions? 12.45.36 # Or just write it as a blanket statement that mentions how color settings only apply to color targets? 12.45.48 # Just trying to figure out how clean we care about keeping the manual... :) 12.46.08 # you could do this, maybe just put a comment above the part that only applies to colour targets 12.46.45 # (wow, that last sentence was terrible... No worries, I don't usually write that way...) 12.47.05 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496490F.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.47.16 # It just happens to be almost 4am.. Heh. 12.47.47 # hehe 12.49.09 Quit _spanner_ ("Leaving") 12.52.23 # Is this where it's going? http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/manual/configure_rockbox/display_options.tex 12.53.56 Join BigMac [0] (n=me@c-67-189-251-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 12.55.59 # sounds reasonable if it's a new entry in the display options - I'm off for lunch , back later 13.03.15 # Looks like none of the gradient option has been documented yet... 13.04.12 # JdGordon: I'm off to bed, but if you commit it, I'll write it all up... Looks pretty simple to do. 13.05.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.06.23 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.06.32 Join hachi [0] (i=hachi@shego.kuiki.net) 13.09.05 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m82.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 13.10.22 Join webguest88 [0] (i=d59e928c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-73c2bc30da566612) 13.11.02 # ooooh, I just saw a fun message 13.11.06 Quit webguest88 (Client Quit) 13.11.06 # "Playlist buffer full" 13.11.23 # and then it just went on trying to play music... seems to be working 13.12.06 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.12.22 # jdgordon: around? 13.18.13 Join Doomed_ [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 13.18.13 Quit alienbiker99 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.19.29 Nick bb__ is now known as bb (n=bb@dslb-088-074-134-252.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.20.31 Join kx [0] (n=kx@122.169.139.105) 13.20.37 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 13.27.49 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.27.59 Join impeller [0] (n=Miranda@impex.8ka.mipt.ru) 13.28.02 Quit petur2 () 13.28.52 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 13.29.34 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.29.39 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.31.40 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.34.06 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 13.36.25 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 13.37.46 # pixelma: what do you tinhk about changing the order of the first settings menu to "sound settings, geenral settings, theme settings, recording settings, manage settings", instead of manage settings being 3rd? 13.38.05 # can rockbox possibly do brightness for an ipod video in future ? 13.38.08 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-001-252.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.45.06 Join GodEater [0] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 13.47.35 # can rockbox possibly do brightness for an ipod video in future ? 13.48.20 # im sorry.. we only answer what-if questions if they are asked 3 times in 15 min 13.48.47 # JdGordon: what file is the menu button code in? (the one with the case statements 13.48.51 # ) 13.48.55 # lol 13.48.57 # menu.c 13.49.01 # ok thanks 13.49.16 # what do I look for switch (button) 13.49.18 # ? 13.49.45 # something like that 13.49.51 # ACTION_STD_OK would be easier 13.50.02 # Slasheri: ping? 13.50.40 # ddalton: around line 355 13.51.17 Part kx ("Leaving") 13.51.31 # hi Lear 13.51.38 # Hi. 13.51.42 # Seems the flac mystery is solved... 13.52.04 # Yep, now I'm digging into dircache issues instead. :) 13.52.07 # * amiconn thinks it's a similar effect as what he had on his linux box 13.52.55 # Messed up file data with no error message at all... since that experience, I always put files on my targets using windows 13.53.34 Quit kubiix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.53.48 # JdGordon: thanks 13.54.09 # JdGordon: so what is "ret" for? Do I need to use it? can I just run my function in that if? 13.54.10 # Lear: if your looking at dircache, could you have a look at the pathc to enable it for multivolume? 13.54.31 # ddalton: well, i have no idea what you want to do.. so yes? no? 13.54.47 # ret is what the menu funciton returns if done == true 13.54.50 # JdGordon: I am just running a function I have already written. 13.54.54 # must be one of hte defines in root_menu.h 13.55.02 # does it do anything? 13.55.06 # edited the keymap file and added my action to action.h so that's done. 13.55.18 # and written my function 13.55.49 # Dircache for multivolume would probably be possible, dircache for hotswap will not 13.55.58 Quit ivan` ("Coyote finally caught me") 13.55.59 # It does from the file browser (I edited tree.h) and the playlist catalog I think 13.56.11 # JdGordon: Without a target to test on, I'd rather not... 13.56.11 Join ivan` [0] (n=ivan`@adsl-71-142-224-59.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 13.57.14 # JdGordon: where do I add my new action for a tap of rec? above that line in an if the same way 13.57.20 # in the same way? 13.58.24 # amiconn: The patch adds a cache rebuild on swap. 14.00.49 # currently the only targets that have multivolume are flash targets - to me the only use of dircache there is for the database because some functions there rely on it. Wouldn't it be better to change something there? 14.00.50 # ddalton: yes 14.01.12 # But as the patch doesn't address the issue of fd bindings, the cache could be disabled sometime after a swap, I think. 14.01.19 # pixelma: of course, but it is consicevable that a hard disk target with hotswap comes along 14.01.21 # pixelma: a very good point indeed... 14.01.29 # Lear: How does that work during playback? I don't think that will be possible... 14.02.29 # amiconn: You mean a rebuild? 14.02.33 # yes 14.02.44 # It might be possible to use dircache for the fixed volume(s) only, but I don't think it's worth the added complexity 14.03.10 # Don't see why that would be a problem as such. You can start playback while the cache is building now... 14.05.58 # Yes, but only if the rebuild is running in the background, which requires to know in advance how much ram it needs 14.06.08 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 14.06.19 # With hotswap you cannot know that 14.08.28 # JdGordon: thanks for your help I am compiling now. 14.09.36 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.09.45 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.10.03 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.13.04 # JdGordon: no errors it compiled but I got warnings 14.13.40 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3088.gwdg.de) 14.15.13 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.16.15 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.23.11 # JdGordon: My patch won't work in the wps at all. If I do a long rec in the main menu it says a bit of my function and then it does the normal code (go to the rec screen) Also I get warnings when compiling. Do you know how I can fix these? 14.23.19 # do you have time to look at my patch? http://pastebin.ca/raw/727799 14.24.01 Join afliw [0] (i=Beatrix_@190.48.28.136) 14.24.09 # hi 14.24.14 # i need help 14.24.17 # pls 14.24.31 # someone there? 14.24.32 # afliw: ask your question 14.24.50 # we can't help you if you don't ask :-) 14.25.56 # okey ^^ 14.26.15 # i have an mp3 player named "Titan" (1GB) 14.26.35 # how do i do to know what kind of mp3 it is? 14.26.37 # your question? 14.26.55 # the brand moddle but it sounds like it won't run rb 14.27.22 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.27.24 # mm... 14.27.28 # that's bad 14.27.36 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.28.38 # do you know some page that could help me... some programs to extract firmware or to see information form the player directly (my english is not very good =P) 14.31.13 Part pixelma 14.32.06 # How di I enable shuffled playback? 14.33.14 Join atsea-34 [0] (i=atsea-@gateway/tor/x-0f9aa3c860579719) 14.34.35 # afliw: first see if you own a supported player 14.37.52 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.38.08 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.38.23 # zicho: Settings/general settings/playback/ shuffle I think 14.39.13 # thx 14.41.05 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 14.41.24 Quit ddalton (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.44.49 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.44.57 # I got disconnected 14.47.25 Quit ddalton (Client Quit) 14.52.50 Quit afliw () 14.53.48 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.01.02 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.02.50 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.05.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.06.28 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 15.18.24 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 15.18.26 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 15.18.40 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 15.22.24 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.24.10 # shortcut behavior in rockbox would like mp3 s/c to play and playlist s/c to load etc any thoughts? 15.25.04 Part Robin0800 15.25.28 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.29.10 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@f051096144.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.31.42 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 15.31.44 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 15.31.58 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 15.37.34 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.37.35 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp15-45.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.39.08 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.42.30 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.43.00 Join BonBonTheJon [0] (n=jon@cpe-65-27-173-68.cinci.res.rr.com) 15.44.57 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 15.46.30 Quit Arathis_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.47.38 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp209-168.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.54.42 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.01.23 Quit XavierGr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.05.12 Quit BonBonTheJon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.07.00 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 16.18.34 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 16.24.28 Join kretender [0] (n=kaspar@101-89.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 16.25.53 # Hm, question on battery_bench. I ran it on my 60GB 5g , but I forgot to clear my rb settings first. I have quite a busy wps, but was pleasantly surprised to get 11:30hrs until player shut off. I reran, and cleared settings this time, but got only 10:30hrs. HOWEVER: plotting the two series side by side, I see the battery decay is comparable. But in the first run, rb shuts down when the battery is at 3%, and on the second run it sh 16.26.53 # Is it possible battery bench just lost the last hour of stats (that's where the battery_bench.txt file ends, maybe the player actually ran for 11:30hr on both runs but the log is truncated?) 16.27.54 Join Bam2550 [0] (i=bam2550@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 16.29.22 # jup thats normal, if battery is empty the harddrive cant spin up, and the last chunk of the log is lost.. i think.. 16.30.40 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A586A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.32.15 # Ok. On the first run, it managed to flush a bunch of stuff after 10:15 then at 11:25. On the second it flushed at 10:52 and then I guess it died at some point after that. 16.32.34 # Oh, so in fact that means I don't know how long my player ran for after all! Something > 11:30hr is all I know. 16.33.16 Quit Strath ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 16.33.43 Join Entasis_ [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-166-130.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 16.34.40 # yup.. :-) but there is possibliy a max, as the battery_bench will write every x minutes.. so its 11:30 + max x minutes.. i dont know how big x is.. 16.34.53 # stripwax: you can't be sure on critical battery levels 16.35.22 # stripwax: there is always some interval that you might loose +- some minutes that depend on the codec 16.35.57 # eg for 128kbps mp3s this interval is about 30 minutes 16.36.18 # the lower the bitrate the greater the uncertainty is 16.36.47 # yep, I'm using q4 (~128) vorbis. If the interval is about 40mins then actually that adds up 16.36.59 # thanks 16.37.02 # that's because in order to be accurate battery_bench will write to the log only when the disk is moved by an external event (music rebuffering) 16.37.34 # so the plugin might loose some minutes because the unit can play quite some minutes if the hard drive doesn't move 16.37.59 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.38.20 Quit Entasis_ (Client Quit) 16.38.28 Part Merthsoft ("Leaving") 16.38.35 # I think that the less accurate measurement is to make a full bench without playing music 16.38.36 Join Entasis_ [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-166-130.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 16.38.51 # which at that point the plugin will write to the log at the maximum 1 hour interval 16.40.35 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 16.45.43 Quit luckyone_ ("Ex-Chat") 16.50.01 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.50.38 Quit Entasis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.01.42 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A586A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.05.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.21 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 17.09.10 # amiconn: around? 17.09.37 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD95599C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.24.17 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 17.25.42 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-80-185.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 17.26.07 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.31.20 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.31.20 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 17.31.39 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.31.44 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.39.31 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 17.42.10 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 17.43.12 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 17.43.23 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 17.48.53 Quit haemmy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.48.58 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 17.49.13 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 17.54.53 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 18.06.52 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 18.07.26 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A79CB.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.07.36 Quit Bam2550 () 18.09.08 Join Entames__ [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-16-6.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net) 18.13.18 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 18.15.10 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 18.15.11 Quit Doomed_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.15.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.19.32 Join kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 18.25.59 Quit Entasis_ (Connection timed out) 18.28.07 # has anyone been measuring current drawn on rockbox vs appleos on ipods? 18.28.21 Quit petur ("gone taping") 18.29.13 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 18.30.24 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 18.34.46 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 18.42.53 Quit eigma (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.46.26 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 18.48.16 Quit PaulJam (".") 18.50.38 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 18.57.29 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-009-171.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.57.50 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@CABLE-72-53-22-61.cia.com) 18.58.54 Join ilgufo [0] (n=matteo@host3-181-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.59.05 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 19.00.25 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.13) 19.00.43 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6CEE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.01.18 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.05.45 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.09.53 Join A_M [0] (n=anon3141@fw.dormnet.his.se) 19.10.20 Join agm3nt [0] (i=agm3nt@nat.n3t.pl) 19.16.15 Join webguest20 [0] (i=5750429c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0c91b8769fbb394a) 19.16.41 Quit qweru ("moo") 19.20.59 Quit webguest20 (Client Quit) 19.22.53 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E43B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.23.12 Quit desowin ("use linux") 19.24.04 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 19.25.22 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@e178079244.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.27.44 Join bluey^ [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-074-022-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.39.26 Join bluey` [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-101-222.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.42.27 Join eigma [0] (n=cat@CABLE-206-188-76-21.cia.com) 19.42.48 Join NeMetS_666 [0] (i=52c16e10@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-daf8e03af3206529) 19.42.52 # Hi all! 19.43.22 # How I can play Midi oh X-5? 19.44.48 Quit bluey- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.45.06 # go to file browser and play it 19.47.17 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 19.47.50 # Write error -> No MIDI patchset found. Please Instal the instrum... See RockBox page for more: ... 19.48.07 # What is it? 19.48.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMidiPlay 19.48.39 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.48.54 # read notes 19.50.24 # I download "A sample patchset is available here" and extracted in .rockbox dir... but error =( 19.51.34 # in ./rockbox/patchset?? 19.51.45 # ou... 19.51.51 # No 19.51.57 # Thenks) 19.52.27 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.52.44 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp44-166.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.53.44 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.54.25 # I must Install? 19.54.37 # How its doing? 19.55.32 # only extract in ./rockbox/patchset 19.55.40 Quit bluey^ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.57.29 Join rjg [0] (i=robert@proxima.lp0.eu) 19.57.53 # evening 19.58.36 Quit Bitter (Client Quit) 20.00.13 # finally updated rockbox on my iriver after over a year, I see MIDI playback is now supported... is it using the timidity library? if so, will it understand XG midi in its current form? (I was going to start mucking about with the patch config files to add in XG stuff as in eawpats 12) 20.00.45 Join iPodjashi [0] (n=exzon@19.220.216.81.static.vbg.siw.siwnet.net) 20.01.40 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13109.0 20.01.43 # help, anyone? 20.04.12 # agm3nt, not worked =( Help me plz 20.04.30 Quit haemmy () 20.05.36 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3075.gwdg.de) 20.06.09 # NeMetS_666: what is wrong?? 20.09.38 # I unpack rockbox-bleeding.tar.bz2 on dir /.rockbox/patchset and i have dirs /.rockbox/patchset/apps , /.rockbox/patchset/bootloader and so... 20.10.04 # in folder - files *.h and *.c 20.10.20 # restart Player... 20.10.26 # rockbox-bleeding.tar.bz2 ?? 20.10.35 # nothing chenge 20.10.40 # yes 20.10.42 # now I don't mean to butt in, but why were you extracting that to the patchset dir? 20.10.43 # rockbohttp://wam.umd.edu/~stevenm/patchset.tbz2 20.11.20 # *http://wam.umd.edu/~stevenm/patchset.tbz2 20.11.29 # heh I wasn't expecting someone else to be also questioning midi at the same time :) 20.11.41 # I suspect XG is asking far too much at the moment though 20.11.58 # the midi playback was a pleasant surprise 20.11.59 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 20.12.10 # sin613: it was :) 20.12.15 # has that pretty much just been stevenm's thing? 20.13.12 # of course now I'm wondering if the patchset can be tweaked to include XG stuff or if it's all statically linked at the moment 20.14.04 # I thik, itis what i am looking.... Thenks =) Very BIG thenks 20.15.44 # Yahoo!!! NOW I CAN PLAY in DooM with music )) 20.16.39 # dou.... No... music disable ... WHY??? 20.17.04 # that won't work I'm afraid, as far as I know.. 20.17.37 # rockbox isn't going to provide a midi device which doom could use, it's just able to play back midi files 20.18.44 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 20.18.47 # ouuu... Thenks... I undestude that - > I can play DooM on X-5 whith Music =( 20.19.51 # hm 20.20.23 # ΠšΡ‚ΠΎΠ½ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π³ΠΎΠ²Ρ€ΠΈΡ‚ ΠΏΠΎ русски? 20.20.39 # NeMetS_666, me 20.20.44 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 20.21.02 # ΠŸΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π΅Ρ‚) 20.21.28 # i don't think people here would like us to talk in russian 20.21.42 # especially because it's against the guidelines 20.22.06 # half of my family speaks russian near fluently... but i don't know a single word 20.22.10 # heh, I was wondering.. non unicode font here so all I get is '?' 20.22.31 # Π’ΠΎΡƒΡƒ... 20.22.41 # rjg: either non-unicode font or you're not using utf-8 in irc 20.22.53 # Ok 20.23.31 # desowin: both actually 20.23.43 # but that's out of choice 20.23.59 # ok... control and last question 20.24.03 # please do try to stay somewhat on topic ... 20.24.38 # Can I play DooM with music? and how its made? 20.24.57 # you can't playback music while playing doom 20.25.05 # who's best to chat to about the midi plugin? 20.25.39 # stevenm, i believe. 20.25.55 # does he pop in here at all? 20.26.06 # i've seen him several times in the last few days 20.26.14 # cool 20.27.19 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 20.27.53 # 10x i undestend 20.27.59 # =) 20.29.30 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.34.03 Quit NeMetS_666 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.39.23 Quit agm3nt () 20.46.21 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 20.49.43 Join Temik [0] (n=temik@77.51.58.182) 20.49.47 Quit Temik (Client Quit) 20.57.14 Quit bluey` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.58.08 Quit desowin ("use linux") 20.59.19 Quit kretender ("Leaving.") 20.59.47 Join kretender [0] (n=kaspar@101-89.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.01.41 # hi all 21.01.58 # how do I use the IRAM in a plugin? 21.03.03 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.03.36 Quit iPodjashi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.05.29 Join webguest83 [0] (i=42195f16@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a014f7fae9426c69) 21.06.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.08.17 Quit webguest83 (Client Quit) 21.11.52 Join DefineByte [0] (n=DefineBy@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 21.12.54 Join Spiritsoulx [0] (n=eyes_of_@24.86.181.152) 21.13.16 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 21.14.25 Quit haemmy () 21.15.07 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 21.15.55 Join haemmy [0] (n=stefan@194.208.162.140) 21.16.06 # Does this error mean anything to anyone? I get it when I build the manual (edited by me): 21.16.06 # ./getting_started/installation.tex:149: Package utf8x Error: Character 145 appeared alone. 21.18.12 Nick HellDragon is now known as Bitter (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 21.24.39 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=SeanAUS@wikinews/Terinjokes) 21.25.24 Quit Terinjokes (Remote closed the connection) 21.25.43 Quit haemmy () 21.25.54 Join haemmy [0] (i=stefan@194.208.162.140) 21.26.02 # Guess not. x) 21.26.10 Part DefineByte 21.26.23 Join Terinjokes [0] (n=SeanAUS@wikinews/Terinjokes) 21.26.42 # hey, rockbox supports both 5.0 and 5.5 ipod videos now, right 21.26.59 # kretender: see an IRAM using plugin, there's quite a number of them 21.27.25 # Terinjokes: yes (see the frontpage) 21.27.53 # PaulJam: just making sure :P, i know for a while we had a problem with the filesystem... 21.28.12 # (i think i remember putting rockbox on a video 5.5, but I don't remember) 21.30.33 Quit haemmy (Client Quit) 21.30.49 Quit jurrie ("Leaving") 21.30.59 # ok i did 21.31.05 # but there is a problem 21.31.32 # whenever i use the IBSS_ATTR keyword in a include file the linker complains about multiple definitions 21.31.47 # how should i solve that? 21.31.59 Part Terinjokes 21.36.00 # kretender: Can you pastebin an example? 21.36.16 # ok 21.36.37 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.39.34 Join Temik [0] (n=temik@77.51.58.182) 21.39.40 # linuxstb_: http://pastebin.com/m24e8c96f 21.39.51 # this is the file i want to include 21.40.01 # should i post the main file too? 21.40.48 Quit Temik (Client Quit) 21.41.08 Join Temik [0] (n=temik@77.51.58.182) 21.41.16 # ".h" files should only ever have "extern" variable declarations. ".c" files should have the exact same line, without the "extern" word. 21.41.18 # You shouldn't put array declarations in .h files - they should go in .c files. 21.41.47 # kretender: use "extern fixedr sin_vecpi[16];" in the .h and fixedr sin_vecpi[16] IBSS_ATTR; in the C 21.41.55 # it is the difference between variable _storage_ (which can only be in a .c file) and variable declaration (i.e., telling the compiler that it exists, or will exist, at link-time) 21.42.23 # ok, thank you very much, ill try it 21.43.28 Quit Toki (Nick collision from services.) 21.43.42 Join Toki [0] (n=hsdbvlkb@gateimb.imb.lebedev.ru) 21.44.30 # whoops, midi plugin has issues with some files with tempo changes 21.45.20 # woaah what on earth is it doing lol, it's making a dogs dinner of this one 21.46.59 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 21.47.29 Quit Frazz ("Leaving") 21.49.09 Quit ilgufo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.17 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 21.53.25 Quit midkay (Nick collision from services.) 21.53.27 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 21.53.34 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.34 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.55.10 Quit Zom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.19 Quit random_desu_is_s (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.21 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-182-168.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 21.56.30 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 21.56.34 Join [Sur`DataGhost] [0] (n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 21.57.56 Join random_desu_is_s [0] (n=chatzill@inet-out.dsl-nat.sura.ru) 21.58.24 Quit alienbiker99 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.00.32 Quit Spiritsoulx () 22.02.08 # huh. I didn't know square brackets are allowed in nicknames. 22.05.06 Nick [Sur`DataGhost] is now known as DataGhost (n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 22.07.36 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.07.44 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.07.47 Quit A_M (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.10.59 Quit Bitter (Client Quit) 22.12.10 Quit eigma () 22.14.07 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.14.33 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-230-188.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 22.16.06 Join jepler_ [0] (n=jepler@emc/developer/jepler) 22.17.28 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 22.17.38 Quit midkay (Nick collision from services.) 22.17.40 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 22.17.46 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 22.21.41 Quit jepler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.23.56 Quit iamben (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.26.18 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@e178095070.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.26.55 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 22.28.08 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 22.29.31 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 22.30.05 # jhMikeS: I have a rather odd result from my 2 runtime tests on H10: *exactly* the same runtime, with and without the dev reset 22.30.10 # 5 hours 5 minutes 22.33.09 Join keanu|afk [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 22.33.32 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-40-255-211.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 22.34.40 Quit Wiwie (Client Quit) 22.35.05 Quit keanu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.35.40 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 22.35.58 Quit iamben (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.37.01 Nick jepler_ is now known as jepler (n=jepler@emc/developer/jepler) 22.45.05 # amiconn: so what's up with that? 22.45.38 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.45.49 # I would really like to know that... 22.45.59 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@dpc67142179038.direcpc.com) 22.47.27 Join Gulopine [0] (n=gulopine@c-24-11-212-122.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.48.02 # maybe the clocking instability made it use more power? all I can think of. 22.48.40 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 22.50.34 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 22.51.45 Quit keanu|afk (Nick collision from services.) 22.52.35 # * Bagder got some updates 22.53.42 # * jhMikeS thinks it's almost time to commit the good-chunk-of-a-year-old pcm rework anyway. no more H10 fretting about it. 22.55.03 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html now mentions three updated docs 22.55.06 # from MrH 22.55.58 # juicy stuff? 22.56.17 # updated the memory controller stuff 22.56.26 # and a new "Semi-Independent DMA interface" doc 22.56.47 # and updated NAND docs 22.57.47 # hey, if he wants to look into all the hw sync primitive stuff too, don't stop him. :) 22.58.15 # if you have any specific questions, I could pass them on... 22.59.02 # regarding the hardware mailboxes and semaphores so we can get this dual core thing settled. 23.00.54 # so the question is basically how they work/are controlled? 23.00.59 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.03.27 Quit impeller (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.04.11 # Badger: yeah. I do know there's good deal of registers involved and it's a faily complicated thing with subtle aspects. 23.06.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.43 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@f051096144.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.11.14 # Is there any way to get Rockbox to hide folders with a hidden attribute? 23.11.25 # Namely the iPod_Control folder... I don't want to see it. 23.12.21 # i've finished my fuse filesystem, which adds to vfat FS symlinks and special characters in filenames. Anyone interested in testing it? 23.14.28 Quit sin613 ("Leaving.") 23.15.30 Join Heyoka [0] (n=joao@a213-22-126-177.cpe.netcabo.pt) 23.16.27 # Isolinear: if you ste the filevie to supported, it should be hidden in rockbox, if it has the hidden attibute 23.16.31 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.45 # Ah, ok... I had tried that but it was still visible, but once I backed out of the "Files" section and went back in, it wasn't there... Basically just had to refresh. :) 23.20.03 # little question: why is there a separate setting for a solid colour lineselector? can't you just set the primary and secondary colour the same to achieve this (with the gradient selector)? 23.20.28 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.21.21 # You can. 23.21.29 # parafin: Do you mean you've added support to Rockbox for that? 23.22.21 # Perhaps it has to do with Rockbox having to draw from only one value in "solid color" mode as opposed to drawing from two values in "gradient mode"? 23.22.43 # That's the first theory I could come up with and I don't write code so who knows. 23.23.12 Quit kretender ("Leaving.") 23.23.39 # ah, so solid colour is faster. that makes sense. 23.23.59 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.24.03 Join sin613 [0] (n=pbarton@dsl-134-129-144-51.und.nodak.edu) 23.24.03 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 23.24.17 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-96-229-77-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.25.09 # Could be, that's all I'm saying... I'm just guessing. 23.25.13 # linuxstb_, nope, it's just a way to copy such files from linux FS to fat 23.25.20 # Anyone who knows better, feel free to jump in. 23.25.20 # it's just can be handy 23.26.17 Quit kubiix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.26.39 # i am requesting write status to the wiki (user PhilipBarton) 23.27.55 # what are you planning on changing? 23.27.57 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.28.17 # sin613: fixed! 23.28.25 # adding my battery bench, fm presets, etc 23.28.30 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 23.28.43 # thanks, Bagder 23.30.26 Quit Nimdae (Remote closed the connection) 23.33.33 # has anyone here pre-ordered radioheads new album? 23.34.06 Quit barrywardell () 23.34.52 Join Nimdae [0] (n=nimmeh@static-71-164-213-195.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 23.34.59 # no its too expensive.. *hehe* 23.35.00 Join webguest99 [0] (i=42c07542@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e98f95c120ccc96f) 23.35.10 # :) 23.35.17 # I'm getting some help from the folks at #vorbis to place an email I sent regarding open formats, rockbox and freedom of choice to radioheads site operators, they never responded but well try to turn it into a coherent and well argumented text 23.35.44 # something that can be used as email campaign form or online petition to get critical mass and their attention 23.36.07 # what's wrong with new radioheads release? 23.36.12 # hmm 23.36.22 # i haven't even seen an indication of what format(s) they'll be posting in 23.36.29 # thats the point 23.37.01 # were trying to make a petition making the case for open formats, and the artificial restricitons placed by vendors like apple 23.37.04 # * webguest99 points to #Rockbox-community 23.37.08 Nick webguest99 is now known as Soap (i=42c07542@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e98f95c120ccc96f) 23.37.28 # and rockbox would be a big part of showing them that open formats can be a feasible way 23.37.31 # * Soap points to #Rockbox-community 23.37.34 # ok 23.37.46 # I should take this up to rockbox community then? 23.38.04 # Somewhere other than the developement and support channel. 23.38.52 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 23.39.46 # ok 23.39.49 # thanks for your time 23.40.09 # heh 23.40.28 # before I take my business there mind if I drop the url to the zero draft of the vorbis/flac/support rockbox and user freedom text? 23.40.38 Join BigMac [0] (n=me@c-67-189-251-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.40.41 # I've been sleep deprived for weeks 23.41.01 # this is borderline spam 23.41.05 # for a good cause, but still 23.41.08 # weeks? and whats wrong with continuing in #rockbox-community 23.41.30 # ok 23.41.43 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.42.26 # I've stopped now and am moving to the rockbox community site 23.42.29 # channel 23.42.31 # sorry 23.45.14 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.45.14 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.46.32 # by the way if rockbox does get involved I would be happy to pledge to donate as much as I payed for the album 23.46.47 # speccially since the c200 port came just in time for my shiny new toy 23.46.49 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 23.46.52 # speaking of which 23.47.22 # any thing a non programming adventurous space monkey can do with rockbox on the c250 that could be of any use to the devs? 23.48.44 # Heyoka: you could help to keep the manual up to date for example. 23.50.02 # ok 23.50.32 # first I should advise people not to upgrade their original firmware 23.50.53 # Any reason why there couldn't be voice thumbnail support in the db? With a client-side utility to read the contents of the db and generate the needed clips? 23.50.56 # and if they do, the diag/rescue mode is not activaded by pressing the down button but the rec button 23.52.10 # rasher: What do you mean by "thumbnail"? 23.52.36 # linuxstb_: .talk clips (they're often referred to as thumbnails, not quite sure why actually) 23.52.46 # <|Rain|> the context menu in the database browser -- the one that has "Playlist" and nothing else (at least for me) -- does anyone know where that menu is in the source offhand? 23.53.18 # rasher: So you want want .talk clips for the tags? 23.53.29 # Pretty much, yes 23.54.09 # to make the db accessible without having to use spelling 23.54.30 # Wouldn't that mean a lot of clips? 23.55.04 Join tdtooke [0] (i=nunya@75-121-38-2.dyn.centurytel.net) 23.55.12 # It would, but disk space is cheap 23.55.46 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 23.55.51 Quit Temik ("Leaving") 23.56.15 # Depends on the type of collection too. If you have lots of full albums, it'd be closer to 1 clip per song 23.56.39 # would it be possible for the shortcut function, if set to an mp3 file it could play it or a jpeg display it? 23.56.43 Quit BigMac ("Leaving") 23.56.53 # if I may interject just for a moment: have there been any changes lately with the cop on PP players? 23.57.13 # rasher: Do you know how the .talk clips work in the file browser? I mean how are they buffered to minimise disk spinups? 23.57.38 # linuxstb_: nope 23.58.20 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection)