--- Log for 08.10.107 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.24 # rasher: I think minesweeper does a similar thing... 00.02.19 Join funky__ [0] (n=repulse@81.202.252.240.dyn.user.ono.com) 00.02.33 # I'll try ignoring it too 00.02.39 Nick _pill is now known as pill (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) 00.02.57 # I can't find my copy of the reference manual...have to download it again 00.03.23 Nick funky__ is now known as kubrick (n=repulse@81.202.252.240.dyn.user.ono.com) 00.03.32 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.11 # pixelma: thanks. seems it's a bit more complicated than just running button_get(true). 00.05.05 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.07.07 # Zagor: you're working on your own USB implementation? 00.07.50 # yes. I got too frustrated by the linux stack. 00.08.32 # so starting with your own usb stack? or porting another one? 00.08.42 # rasher: Not really... 00.08.43 # my own 00.09.10 # basically I want to see how KISS I can make it :) 00.09.17 # Zagor: and will it be possible to support other controllers in the future? 00.09.25 # petur: yes 00.09.31 # amiconn: well the first one blocks, the second one doesn't (presumably because something ends up in the queue - release or repeat event perhaps) 00.09.58 # Yes, there's at least the release event 00.09.59 # feel free to lob NIH jokes at me. I can take it :-) 00.10.15 # Zagor: the QH have to be aligned to 2k boundary IIRC 00.10.28 # In general, it's a bad idea to ignore events, as imho it's a big advantage to press button sequences in advance, 00.10.41 # 2K sounds like... about 12 bits, isn't it? 00.10.44 # that's equivalent to ignoring bits 1-11, right? 00.10.46 # yes, that's not a problem. but from the table it looks like the actual data buffers are limited somehow 00.10.46 # but for some purposes it's necessary to flush the queue and then wait 00.11.07 # amiconn: well, this is an instruction screen, so I think it's reasonable 00.11.15 # That would be just button_clear_queue() followed by button_get(true) 00.11.32 # Even that didn't seem to work 00.11.34 # barrywardell: my issue is with the buffer pointers in the dTD 00.11.45 # And now I'm over the pluginsize limit on archos again.. dammit 00.12.01 # those point at the actual data to be transmitted (or buffers to receive in) 00.12.33 # having to keep those at special addresses will hurt performance a lot 00.13.09 # ah, I see now 00.13.15 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 00.13.45 Join bluebrother [0] (i=vxCsLPa7@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 00.13.56 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.13.56 # e200tool also aligns it's data buffer to 1<<12, so maybe it is necessary? 00.14.26 # but as far as I can see in the linux driver, it doesn't do it 00.16.20 # http://www.bitshrine.org/gpp/linux-2.6.18-mx27-usb.patch 00.16.36 # function arcotg_build_dtd 00.17.07 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 00.18.32 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A959BE.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.18.47 Quit muesli- ("ich will Kühe!!!") 00.24.21 # it's hard to follow that code without running it 00.24.36 # indeed 00.26.26 Quit Bitter (Client Quit) 00.27.38 # what about the 'current offset'. can't that be used? 00.28.54 # I'm mostly worried about the second pointer. that mandated 0 is weird. and "frame number" is written by the controller, according to the manual. 00.30.42 # but yeah, the offset might be the solution. as long as pointer 1-4 are just increments from pointer 0 that could be why it's working 00.30.59 # even 12-bit increments, I mean 00.31.29 # the linux driver adds 0x1000 for each pointer 00.32.24 # I'll start with just using ptr0 00.35.47 # e200tool only uses ptr0 00.36.26 Quit jmspeex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.36.56 Join jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 00.37.36 # I thought e200 tool was a linux util? are there two e200tools? 00.38.05 # e200tool has usb code which it copies to the e200 00.38.22 # in arm_code.c 00.38.28 # ah, there 00.39.18 # 32.14.5.2 describes the dTD a bit better...points 6 and 7 explain things exactly like you just did 00.39.51 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.39.55 # ahh, good 00.41.17 # pointer 1-4 are one page greater than the previous one 00.41.25 Join kclaf [0] (i=kclaf@85.95.211.245) 00.41.54 Join HellDragon [0] (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 00.44.08 Nick HellDragon is now known as Bitter (n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon) 00.45.07 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.46.43 Quit Klevi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.47.30 Quit kubrick ("leaving") 00.48.43 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.51.52 # Zagor: you probably know already, but make sure you put those data structures into IRAM for them to work 00.52.52 # yeah 00.54.40 Quit PaulJam (".") 00.57.05 Quit ender` (" Sex is dirty - if you do it right. -- Isaac Asimov") 01.05.44 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.06.32 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.06.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.07.20 # bed time 01.07.22 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.09.06 # Guess I ought to use USERFONT_UI for the instructions in robotfindskitten 01.11.42 Quit Entames__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.12.09 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 01.13.58 Quit petur ("Zzzzzz") 01.20.11 Join VGambit [0] (n=UPP@132.168.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 01.26.23 # I'm getting "make[2]: *** [/home/ns_buildrb/rockbox/build/apps/plugins/viewer.rock] Error 1" when running make - any ideas? 01.26.47 Join WGC [0] (n=chatzill@150.216.120.52) 01.26.57 # How do you read the grid for the daily builds? 01.28.36 # WGC: You mean the table here? http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 01.28.43 # keanu: what target are you compiling for? 01.28.55 # Yeah 01.29.00 # pixelma, Sansa e200 01.29.01 # I think I understand it now though 01.29.21 # WGC: That's the "current build" table - the results of the recent current build compilations. Green is OK, yellow is warnings and red is errors. 01.29.38 # (the current yellow is due to a gcc bug) 01.29.38 # keanu: applied any patches? and have you tried a make clean, maybe reconfigure? 01.29.50 # The only errors for what I'm using are for the Simulator anyways. 01.30.08 # Those are warnings, not errors. 01.30.40 # 'Those aren't compiler warnings, they are SUGGESTIONS' 01.30.49 # anyhow, time for bed 01.30.50 # pixelma: ran make clean, but haven't tried running ../tools/configure again. I have a few patches in it. small pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/729420 01.30.52 # You're supporting the e200R now? 01.31.17 # later 01.31.28 # WGC, yes, though patching the bootloader requires Linux 01.31.30 # WGC: Rockbox works, but the installation is complex 01.31.54 # Glad I got the non R version. 01.32.50 # Rockbox is basically Linux, isn't it? 01.33.42 # Rockbox is basically written from scratch 01.33.45 # no 01.33.49 # oh 01.34.11 # How the heck did you get Doom to run on it? 01.34.25 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.34.38 # The same way people have got Doom running on lots of other devices - someone adjusted the code for Rockbox. 01.36.30 # pixelma, I think I got it - apps/plugins/SOURCES was messed up 01.36.53 Quit VGambit` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.39.20 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 01.39.46 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.51.03 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 01.53.17 Quit WGC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1-2007080401 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007080106]") 01.54.39 Nick advcomp2019 is now known as Iowa (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 01.54.56 Nick Iowa is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 02.01.35 Join zajacattack [0] (i=42617721@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1f7cba8e5fd733b0) 02.02.19 # hey, i'm trying to edit the Sansae200RBootloaderPatching wiki page and i'm getting blocked, can someone help? 02.03.25 # anyone? 02.04.03 # zajacattack, you need wiki write access 02.04.47 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 02.05.03 # ok, can someone give me that? 02.05.31 # Are you registered in the wiki? 02.06.13 # yes, my username is AlexZajac 02.06.25 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 02.08.25 # so, how do I get write access? 02.08.51 # I've just given it to you. 02.08.57 # thank you 02.10.04 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-0-132.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.13.50 Quit Genre9mp3 () 02.18.19 Quit barrywardell () 02.19.58 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 02.23.26 Part pixelma 02.25.02 Quit Lambuntu (Remote closed the connection) 02.31.42 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 02.35.44 Join psycho_maniac [0] (n=psycho_m@ppp541.hk.centurytel.net) 02.37.02 Part zajacattack 02.39.48 Join webguest15 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bf4f018154746c67) 02.40.01 # Is there a reverse bootloader for the sansa c250? 02.41.19 Quit webguest15 (Client Quit) 02.49.08 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.54.23 # what's a reverse bootloader? 02.55.10 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 02.55.18 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 02.55.24 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 02.55.33 # TMM: He's referring to a bootloader that loads the original firmware as default 02.55.39 # ah 02.58.16 # why is there so many people who want a "reverse bootloader"? 03.00.59 # i remember i wanted that when rockbox first came out for the h120s because it didnt work that good at the begining so i just removed it and waited for it to become more stable 03.01.09 # Many people just install it for the games. 03.02.17 Join webguest93 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-08ea42c730f0f7bf) 03.03.19 Quit webguest93 (Client Quit) 03.03.36 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.04.11 # Llorean: That still doesn't explain it. There must be something that draws them back to the OF that Rockbox doesn't offer... 03.04.37 # Simplicity? 03.04.57 # Familiarity perhaps. 03.05.18 # They bought the player to use the OF. They've installed Rockbox for "Extras", not as a music player 03.05.22 # Also, of course, Battery Life. 03.05.38 # Reverse Bootloaders seem to be 'iPL Loader 2.5 with OF set as default' and the Sansa one. 03.05.41 # depends on the player, maybe they don't want to convert their videos or something 03.06.15 # That only really applies to the iPod Video. 03.06.35 # At least, as far as I can imagine. We outperform video performance for the Sansa by a good deal. 03.06.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.07 # yeah, i don't see the need for the sansa OF. i tried it for 5 minutes and then installed rockbox 03.12.10 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.12.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.12.26 # i installed rockbox for rockbox only. i think im always going to use it from now on. 03.18.08 # good to hear it :) 03.19.02 # maxkelley: Do you have a Sansa m200? 03.19.13 # I used to, and exchange it for the c200. 03.19.22 # but I believe I put some fw dumps on the forums. 03.19.32 # why, were you looking for someone to help port? 03.19.49 # ooh, we've passed 15k in commits :) 03.19.59 # er, revisions. 03.20.49 # There should be a line in the README :"If you just install rockbox for the games, for fuck's sake get a GP2X" 03.21.16 # heh. 03.21.29 # * maxkelley :O's 03.22.02 # this is the first time a compile from svn hasn't worked for me.. I shall make clean. 03.31.25 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 03.37.42 # make mrclean :) 03.39.51 Join webguest75 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b43b1cc237b3dfeb) 03.41.01 Quit webguest75 (Client Quit) 03.41.08 Join webguest75 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7d58a5209f38fc3b) 03.41.49 # After installing rockbox, if I use sansapatch to uninstall the bootloader, my default firmware will boot, right? 03.44.47 Quit webguest75 (Client Quit) 03.47.29 # howe come the webguest guys tend to stay around for .5 seconds before leaving? 03.48.12 Join webguest24 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e061b26147ff29e5) 03.48.29 # Hello? 03.48.35 # yes? 03.48.48 # actually that one stayed for 3 mins 03.49.00 # well, 3mins still isn't very long 03.49.44 # i guess they expect the question to be answered quickly 03.50.11 Quit random_desu_is_s ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 03.50.23 # I was wondering, when I try to initalize the database, rockbox states that it is building it. It stays that way for a very long time and never finishes. I have WMA files, could this stop it from building? 03.50.28 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.50.35 # psycho_maniac: perhaps there should be some text on the cgi-irc page explaining things like 'volunteer' and 'timezone's 03.51.02 # What do you mean? 03.52.06 # webguest24: a lot of people that use cgi-irc seem to leave 1 minute after asking a question :) it's annoying :P 03.52.07 # it should say how many files it has found for the database?correct? 03.52.44 # @ TTM, sorry, I didn't know that. It does say, about 400 songs are on the device. 03.53.20 # wma files work on rockbox. most of them i thought. 03.53.53 # I was just wondering, if I leave it alone for a long time will it finish? 03.54.28 # I believe so, yes. 03.54.56 # webguest24: what player do you have? 03.55.04 # sansa c250. 03.55.11 # ooh, mine! 03.55.29 # 400 files shouldnt take too long to build a database for. 03.55.32 # yeah, I believe that as soon as the disc activity icon goes away, it should be done.. 03.55.40 # it took me like half a second, literally. 03.55.59 # do yourself a favor and set the auto-update function on. 03.56.18 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.56.24 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.56.40 # wb. 03.57.14 # webguest24: you should be all initialized and ready to go. 03.57.28 # Alright, so somthing must be wrong. It does not finish building it's database in over 20 minutes. 03.57.42 # why, there's nothing in the the database? 03.57.56 # instead of initialize now, do Update Now. 03.58.09 # OK, trying that. 03.58.14 # initialize just starts the database, update.. well, you get it. 03.58.23 # I *believe*. 03.58.51 # humm... pizza 03.58.53 # well if you click database and dont have it set up it will ask if you want to enable it and just hit select. if you did that already just do the update database 03.59.58 # It never finished building the database, and updating it did nothing. 04.00.32 # I think there's a note in there that you have to reboot the player after first initialization.,. 04.00.38 # at least, I had to do that. 04.00.49 # maxkelley: what player do you have? 04.01.02 # same, c250 04.01.29 # maxkelley, how did you do your first initalization, what happened? 04.01.57 # I believe I clicked on database, it said it needed to start it, and required a reboot of the player, I rebooted, updated, was good to go., 04.03.09 # Mine never finishes. It just says "Building database... 455 found. press PREV to return" and never asks for a reboot. 04.03.53 # how long do you stay at that screen? (455 found) ? 04.04.31 # webguest24: it should be good. 04.04.38 # Yes. And I stayed at the screen for over 5 min. 04.04.46 # hit prev to return :) 04.05.08 # Yeah, and I did. But that does not finish building the database. 04.05.21 # it's done building.. 455 found. 04.05.39 # So, th 04.06.14 # But when I select database, it still says it's building. 04.06.20 # now it should say after that "initializing 1 of x" i belive 04.06.36 # says nothing of the sort. 04.06.44 # and there's nothing in the database section of the menu? 04.07.10 # go to the main menu, click system, click debug, then click view database info. what does it say on that screen? 04.07.13 # nothing, If I select it, it says Building database... 455 found. press PREV to return. 04.08.01 # it says: initalized: yes progress -1% 04.08.26 # maxkelley: maybe he should reboot the player? 04.08.48 # yeah I will try that, I have to leave, thanks for the help. :) 04.08.50 Quit webguest24 ("CGI:IRC") 04.09.02 # maxkelley: I thought I told him that :P 04.09.42 Join webguest29 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-49ff50a7d2e86995) 04.11.06 # Sorry, I'm back. It says that the database is initalized but not ready. 04.11.14 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 04.11.40 Join webguest45 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0dcdc8bbd27b51c3) 04.11.51 Quit webguest45 (Client Quit) 04.11.52 # where you get that info from? in the debug menu? 04.12.18 Join webguest57 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b2171ea1a7878572) 04.12.25 # Yes, the debug menu. 04.12.37 Part keanu ("Leaving") 04.12.55 # what happens when you click on database in the main menu? 04.13.18 # It says that it is not initalized, and asks me to do it. This is after a reboot. 04.14.19 # initialize it then and just wait for it to finish 04.14.36 # OK, thanks. 04.14.37 Quit webguest57 (Client Quit) 04.14.50 Quit Isolinear (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.23.10 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.35.50 Join stevenm [0] (n=stevenm@129.2.201.58) 04.37.56 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.38.27 Join webguest55 [0] (i=46403811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-27a8c0cb6895595b) 04.38.30 Quit webguest55 (Client Quit) 04.50.53 Join ord [0] (n=qwm@h38n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 04.52.42 Quit qwm ("Reconnecting") 04.52.50 Nick ord is now known as qwm (n=qwm@h38n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 05.06.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.41 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 05.09.12 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 05.13.35 Quit stevenm ("Connection reset by beer") 05.15.56 Join bb__ [0] (n=bb@dslb-088-074-142-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.27.22 Quit bb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.27.27 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 05.48.39 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.05.19 Join vloosie [0] (i=cf3746a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dda6291f6d4181a6) 06.06.01 # Hey, I was wondering if I could have RockBox show a different loading screen when I turn my iPod on? 06.06.18 # Like, maybe a picture or animated GIF, can I do this, anyone? 06.07.19 # have you searched the forums? 06.07.30 # Yes. 06.08.22 # there are topics about this 06.09.23 # I haven't seen any talkng about different pictures when you start up rockbox 06.11.01 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6937.0 06.12.26 # and look up logo swapper on the wiki 06.15.55 # what ever happened to the page (might of been on the wiki) where you select patches on the site and then it would compile that for you? 06.24.16 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 06.29.03 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 06.36.01 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.40.36 # Another question! 06.41.03 # Every time i plug my ipod into my computer it's config files gets set back to default 06.41.20 # that shouldnt happen :p 06.41.31 # how can i make it run my saved config file every time even after i plug it into my computer 06.42.01 # you mean every time you unplug your ipod the default cfg loads? 06.42.15 # yeah 06.42.24 # is there a file /.rockbox/config.cfg when you plug it into the comp? 06.43.07 # i yes 06.43.08 # yes* 06.43.27 # and there is also config01.cfg which is the one i want 06.43.36 # it to run every time 06.43.43 # open it up in your text editor, is it the same as config01.cfg? 06.44.08 # jdGorden: are you familiar with the fourms? do you remember the site you could select your patches and it would compile it for you automatically? 06.44.33 # psycho_maniac: yes, and that site your talking about was a site i whipped up 06.44.39 # they are different JdGordon 06.44.53 # vloosie: can you pastebin config.cfg? 06.45.00 # ? 06.45.18 # ... is the file empy apart from the comments at the top? 06.45.36 # it poped in my head today thinking about patches. what happened to it? 06.45.46 # i lost interest in it 06.46.04 # i stll have the code for it somewhere if your a phpp-ninja 06.46.10 # i remember it being down for awhile because the demand was high? then it was never opened up again. 06.46.16 # .. and you probmise not to laugh at my crapness :p 06.46.40 # the best i can do is http and barley that lol. 06.47.20 # vloosie: if you load oyur config01.cfg and then shutdown, when you turn it back on is the settings as you expect? 06.48.24 # * JdGordon back in 10 06.48.34 Join delsvr [0] (n=delsvr@ool-4353166a.dyn.optonline.net) 06.49.00 # yeah, when i reset my ipod, its only when i plug/unplug it from my computer.. then it resets it 06.49.00 Part delsvr ("Leaving") 06.49.08 # i might have fixed it just now 06.49.30 # i just deleted the one i didnt want and renamed config01 to config 06.53.26 # but now i don't know how to make my new bmp splash screen to run when i start up my ipod 06.54.51 # ok good 06.55.02 # i fixed both of the problems i had, thank you cya ! 06.55.06 Quit vloosie ("CGI:IRC") 06.59.53 # oh thanks for leaving when you got your problems fixed. i wanted to ask you about the boot screen 07.00.45 # bah 07.00.56 # so was it a real bu? we'll neevr know 07.01.33 # bu? 07.02.19 # bah 07.02.21 # bug 07.02.47 # too bad he couldn't stick around to tell us 07.06.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.56 # ah...home again =) 07.14.18 # well then welcome home 07.23.40 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 07.25.28 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 07.34.13 Nick psycho_maniac is now known as psycho_maniac_ (n=psycho_m@ppp541.hk.centurytel.net) 07.34.35 Join Isolinear [0] (n=A@c-76-105-254-119.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.38.05 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.38.34 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.39.22 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.39.29 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 07.40.27 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp541.hk.centurytel.net) 07.40.36 # JdGordon: I have that manual entry for ya... :) 07.41.59 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.43.52 Quit psycho_maniac_ ("Good Bye") 07.44.40 # yay 07.44.45 # stick it on flyspray? 07.44.54 # WTF is robot finds kitten? 07.45.28 # your a robot and you have to find the kitten. 07.47.58 # have you played it? 07.48.22 # I tried but the task is closed... lol 07.48.41 # i just tried it in the sim and it has no point? 07.48.51 # you just wanl around the screen? 07.48.56 # is there skill involved? 07.49.01 # not really. 07.49.29 # maybe was easy to port to rockbox. so thats why they did it? 07.51.48 # It seems to be trying to emulate the surreal-type feel of something like this: http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/ But it's hard to do with only text messages at the top of the screen... lol 07.52.48 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 07.57.18 # wow that game is cool 07.58.35 # but super easy...flyguy 08.00.03 # lol.. I don't think it was meant to be difficult.. I think it was meant to be something fun to do.. :) 08.02.48 # kinda cool how you can find stuff and interact with it like the dancing robot 08.04.06 # Yeah. 08.04.17 # No instructions, you just find things on your own. 08.05.53 # wow i reached the end of the game i think 08.06.17 # -community.. 08.06.33 Join cdiddy1 [0] (n=cdiddy@24-217-146-233.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 08.07.30 # hello, I was wondering if you guys have heard of a problem with adding bookmarks. I have en e280 minus the R and it will not add the bookmark 08.07.40 # maybe I overlooked something 08.10.26 Part toffe82 08.11.40 # do you have the most recent build? 08.13.23 # I have the current, stable build. I tried googling and did not see anything. Is the latest, bleeding build have a fix? 08.13.48 # there is no such thing as a "stable build" 08.14.17 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.14.57 # Okay. I had an e280r, and was able to get the bookmarks working under that ... I returned it and got the regular, and reinstalled rockbox, and the bookmarks dont seem to do anything when i try to make one 08.18.10 Quit psycho_maniac (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 08.22.52 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.23.40 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 08.26.10 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.30.18 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 08.42.50 Join hannesd__ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 08.45.08 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.49.07 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 08.54.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet29.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 08.55.35 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.56.24 Quit cdiddy1 ("Leaving.") 08.59.19 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14BC6.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.04.21 Nick JdGordon_ is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.05.29 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.06.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.13.54 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.16.00 Join Zagor_ [0] (n=bjorn@194-237-150-171.customer.telia.com) 09.16.52 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (n=bjorn@194-237-150-171.customer.telia.com) 09.17.22 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.21.00 # Hi LinusN, Have you seen the recent descussion on the rockbox dev list about a quick screen for blind users? If so would this be likely to be excepted? 09.22.17 # no, i haven't seen it yet, i've been away, so i have tons of mails to read 09.22.37 # * GodEater_ will be docking this from LinusN's Rockbox pay 09.22.45 # :-) 09.22.48 # :) 09.25.07 # ok 09.25.33 # LinusN: what strings does the quick screen display? where are they stored? 09.26.00 # they should be in the lang file, shouldn't they? 09.26.34 # I searched for "lang" and nothing was found 09.27.00 # LANG_ 09.27.30 # My search string ignores case and it stills has lang in it let me try again 09.28.22 # no luck 09.31.05 # oh, coz your looking in the wrong file i tinhk... the quickscreen srings are actually in screens.c i tihnk 09.31.08 # LinusN: ok a more simple question: What code should I be looking at to make the battery level speak automatically at 50% and 20%? 09.31.10 # no in quickscreen.c 09.31.17 # and when the charger is inserted? what file? 09.32.13 # JdGordon: what in quickscreen.c? 09.32.24 # ddalton: i suggest gui/statusbar.c 09.32.38 # it is in /apps/gui/quickscreen.c 09.32.44 # but that file is not for the faint-hearted 09.33.19 # oh hang on JdGordon I didn't read your last message sorry 09.34.21 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy14.netz.sbs.de) 09.35.03 # I guess it doesn't help that I don't know structs but I will still modify it later. 09.35.14 # thanks jdgordon you were right 09.35.35 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 09.35.41 # there was ever a doubt? :O 09.35.43 # :D 09.40.30 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.41.41 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.42.26 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.42.49 # LinusN: does this look like the right if statement to put code to voice "charger removed"? if ((charge_state == DISCHARGING) || (charge_state == TRICKLE)) 09.42.53 # it is part of the file 09.42.59 Join AegisDrgn [0] (i=AegisDrg@dynamic2-217-041.usc.edu) 09.44.05 # Hello all, is anyone available to help with a question about a problem I am having with loading up the original Sansa firmware on a e280? 09.44.56 # it's best just to ask the question 09.44.56 # ddalton: you want to voice when it is inserted and extracted? 09.45.37 # Ok, sorry for the delay 09.45.47 # When I try to boot up the original firmware 09.46.08 # it would spool out some text 09.46.09 # LinusN: yes 09.46.14 # then the screen would "burn out" 09.46.24 # uh, how to explain 09.46.31 # it would gradually turn white 09.46.49 # then the white screen would develop a black hole that grows to cover the screen 09.47.05 # the scroll wheel remains lit the entire time 09.47.07 # ddalton: then maybe apps/misc.c is better, in the default_event_handler_ex() function 09.47.35 # LinusN: for "charging" as well? 09.47.51 # and maybe alerting the user of the battery level every 25%? 09.48.03 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 09.48.12 # ddalton: how often do you want it to say "charging"? 09.48.18 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@gateless.info) 09.48.38 # LinusN: when I insert the charger 09.48.54 # AegisDrgn: this sounds like the same problem others have reported in the forums. Have you read the thread there ? 09.49.06 # for the "charging", you want to edit misc.c 09.49.31 # ok thanks for your help I will give that a go. will battery levels work as well there? 09.49.33 # I couldn't access the forums. When I clicked the link, I would get a "page not found" error 09.50.02 # I was hoping the forums would help, didn't want to bother you guys with this problem. 09.50.59 # http://forums.rockbox.org/ doesn't work for you at all ? 09.51.25 # waaaiit, ok got onto the forums using my roommate's laptop 09.51.28 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12953.0 <-- this is the thread 09.51.48 # d 09.51.49 # alright, thanks. I'll get back to you if I can't fix it 09.52.40 # ddalton: you might have to do it in statusbar.c 09.52.52 # AegisDrgn: I didn't promise you a fix :) 09.52.57 # ddalton: the battery level, that is 09.53.14 # yep I think your right. Hopefully this works just compiling now 09.53.21 # for the charging thing 09.53.24 # AegisDrgn: the problem is NONE of the developers own a e200r, and none of our non-developer techies that own one have one that exhibits this issue 09.55.23 # GodEater_: I don't have the rhapsody one, just the plaino e280. Ok...trying to figure out how to use the sansapatcher when the device doesn't show up in windows. T_T 09.55.56 # AegisDrgn: ah - in that case I take it back - misread what you said sorry 09.56.03 # *searches for manual - how to boot up in emergency recovery mode?* 09.56.30 # AegisDrgn: look in our wiki 09.56.32 # I think 09.57.05 # AegisDrgn: if it, the instructions will be in that thread somewhere 09.57.36 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 09.59.42 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.59.53 # LinusN: it compiled just got to test it 10.02.15 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 10.04.13 # thanks LinusN it seems to be working. It says the wrong lang string but that is because I am using the wrong voice file 10.04.33 # ddalton: good 10.06.03 # oooh boy...seems like I will have to go into recovery mode, copy the original firmware file back, then redo rockbox installation using the older 0.2 sansapatcher instead 10.06.15 # *nervous nervous* 10.06.32 # AegisDrgn: it's not as bad as all that. Just make sure you do each step carefully 10.06.41 # AegisDrgn: it's not nearly as daunting as e200tool :) 10.09.13 # committer #57 was added 10.09.41 # who be that ? 10.10.04 # Stéphane "sdoyon" Doyon 10.10.12 # hope he does show up more often here... 10.10.54 # Bagder: Sdoyon has svn access? 10.11.04 # starting now, yes 10.11.24 # good hopefully that will allow for some voicing patches to be committed. 10.17.07 # LinusN: thanks for your help with that part of the patch. Now I just need to work out how to do the battery level thing 10.17.25 # ddalton: that's a little difficult 10.17.49 # whats the point of it voicing "charging" if you know you just plugged the charger in? 10.18.13 # JdGordon: The same as the "charging" icon? 10.18.25 # ddalton: you have to find the correct spot in the statusbar code to insert your code, and then you also have to handle the timing, so it only speaks at regular intervals 10.18.26 # what he said :-) 10.18.37 # people look at the chargin icon? 10.18.52 # LinusN: ok I think I can probably do the timing part but what function in rb is executed all the time? 10.18.58 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 10.19.13 # ddalton: that's the next issue, it isn't always executed 10.19.23 # JdGordon: so you are sure that it is charging 10.19.24 # ALRIIIGHT thanks for the help godfaterh 10.19.27 # godfather* 10.19.35 # sorry for the misspelling, got too excited/relieved 10.19.37 # LinusN: Ok I will search for it 10.19.39 # thought I bricked my sansa 10.20.08 # so is the battery level updated in the status bar or what ever you guys call it? 10.21.55 Quit qweru ("moo") 10.21.55 # LinusN: it will be a bit harder to test as well :-( 10.22.25 Quit AegisDrgn () 10.22.40 # ddalton: the statusbar code is called every now and then to update the battery icon, if the statusbar is visible 10.23.19 # so that's another problem can you turn off the statusbar? 10.23.49 # yes 10.24.08 # ok I better go for dinner but that's another problem 10.24.12 # so speaking the battery level is not that easy to accomplish 10.24.59 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 10.27.27 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 10.32.41 # "this torrent included [Maga]Zine Easy Rockbox installer" 10.32.49 # http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3802651/iPod_5.5G_Rockbox_9-10-07_%5BMaga%5DZine_(FIXED_) 10.32.51 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 10.33.16 # never hard of [Maga]Zine before... 10.33.18 # heard 10.37.44 # how cute 10.38.54 # * GodEater_ bets it's a trojan 10.38.59 # haha 10.39.34 # "iPod_5.5G_Rockbox_9-10-07_Now_with_Botnet_Client.torrent" 10.40.06 # You can download themes 10.40.06 # from www.rockbox.com 10.40.13 # ahha 10.40.44 # rockbox.com is parked it seems 10.41.00 # owned by Creative Advertising Consultants, California 10.41.05 # ... and shows mp3-related ads... 10.41.24 # and some other crap 10.52.51 # LinusN: Do you still think I should speak the battery level? 10.53.09 # ddalton: i doubt it 10.53.40 # JdGordon: re your comment about people knowing when they insert the charger. What if they forget to plug it in at the wall? they won't hear "Charger inserted" and will check it. 10.54.05 # ok I will have a quick look at it but it was sdoyon was going to do 10.54.12 # something he was going to do 10.55.15 # LinusN: what about powermgmt.c does that have any battery level code? 10.56.05 # ddalton: yes, but powermgmt.c doesn't have access to the voice api 10.56.18 # delYsid: Hi, what were you saying about making a unit? 10.56.24 # with the voice 10.56.27 # in your email 10.57.08 # LinusN: could I get it to return something to my function if it found the battery was at 50%? 10.57.53 # ddalton: that is easy, but when would you call that function? 10.57.58 # Where else do you want the battery level voiced? It already is spoken in "Rockbox Info" ... 10.58.26 # amiconn: when it hits a certain level to tell you where ever you r in rockbox 10.59.00 # LinusN: that's a good question. Is there any code in rockbox that is running all the time? or what about in talk.c? 10.59.46 # ddalton: i don't know, have to think about that 11.00.37 # LinusN: could I get the statusbar code to run if the statusbar is off? is there a way I can do that? 11.01.00 # ddalton: we don't want that 11.01.17 # ok 11.01.37 # * ddalton thinks 11.01.44 # Imo it would be really annoying to have something voiced "out of nowhere" 11.02.39 # The voice UI is about getting information you need, not about polluting the environment with acoustic messages 11.03.18 Join pondlife [0] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 11.04.30 # amiconn: it is a battery level warning it will probably be voiced 3 or 4 times from when the battery is 100%. You can turn that voicing off if you like (there will be a setting) what do you think? 11.04.32 # amiconn: in this case I disagree - I can see that for a non-sighted user, getting a battery level "warning" would be useful - you don't want to keep having to go into the Rockbox info to cehck this. 11.04.35 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.04.55 # yes exactly what stephane and I think. 11.04.59 # GodEater_: i agree 11.05.11 # good someone agrees with me :-) 11.05.14 #