--- Log for 09.10.107 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.24 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.00.44 # *rimshot* 00.01.48 Join Paul1989 [0] (i=caac775e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fcfad4845072f2f0) 00.02.36 # thank you, I'll be here all day 00.02.37 Quit Paul1989 (Client Quit) 00.02.59 # *assorted groans, boos, and "YOU SUCK"s* 00.03.18 # screw you guys, I'm going home 00.03.34 Join Paul1989 [0] (n=i_am_the@202-172-119-94.cpe.nsw-3.comcen.com.au) 00.03.49 # *cheers* 00.03.58 # er, right, on-topic. 00.04.01 # * jhMikeS tries to find his first IRC post here...just because 00.04.17 # let's graph TMM's audience popularity. 00.04.25 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.04.26 # On my 5th Gen ipod, i had rockbox working, and my battery ran out, now when i plug my ipod into the computer it wont charge 00.04.26 # lets not 00.04.29 # anyone else had this problem :| ? 00.04.32 # ________ well, that was easy :) 00.04.57 # maxkelley: ow, come on, it wasn't THAT bad 00.05.03 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.05.04 # tough crowd 00.07.11 # TMM: you're telling _me_ :) 00.07.49 # apparently, my earliest yet is 6-03-07 00.07.52 # jhMikeS: ok, what WAS your first IRC post? 00.08.12 # ah, no, 5/21/07 00.08.44 # TMM: still trying to find it...some time in July 2006 though 00.08.44 # oh, 1/03/07 :) 00.08.50 # Ok can someone help me here? This patch stops the sim build from compiling. The normal build seems to compile. http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/error.txt 00.08.59 # I'm logged in the first line of the oldest logged #rockbox log... 00.09.32 # Bagder: I did see that one...not sure anyone could have beaten you to it 00.10.30 # jhMikeS: you got involved over x5, no? 00.10.35 # yup 00.10.37 Quit sarixe ("Peace") 00.10.56 # has anyone taken a look at my patch and the error? 00.10.59 # * jhMikeS remembers the oldest log introducing the channel or something 00.11.00 # * moos remenber that jhMikeS came one summer, no? 00.11.09 # ddalton: give it a sec. 00.11.10 # moos: last 00.11.16 # ok 00.11.20 # it was just 10 seconds ago you put it up :) 00.11.52 # I just want to laugh at myself and how clueless it sounds 00.12.02 # hehe :) 00.12.45 # show us :) 00.12.55 # * moos propose to jhMikeS to use recording on one of his rockbox device (with his code ;) 00.13.39 # Paul1989: It is a common problem with iPods, even those running the Apple stock firmware, to suffer from problems when deep discharged. The best thing you can do is plug it in to charge (preferably a wall charger) for overnight, then toggle the hold switch to the on (red) position and back to the off position, then attempt the standard hard-reboot procedure (Menu+Select held for 30 seconds) 00.14.07 # Righto, I'll have to borrow a wall charger then 00.14.18 # jhMikeS: 20060710 00.14.39 # I was hoping that I didnt run the battery so dry it hasn't got enough power to boot 00.15.15 # rasher: aquote? :) 00.15.15 # oh, 12-30-06 00.15.17 # heh.."test, Is this thing on?" how appropriate for TMM's statement. 00.15.26 # since i was playing on the gameboy emulator, and it seemed to be chewing through the battery. 00.15.53 # it must've click it 00.16.03 # Paul1989: Feel free to try any powered USB port - it is just that people have reported a greater success rate when using wall chargers. If that fails you, wash-rinse-repeat. Keep trying in other words. It is a very common occurance. You might even find that it spontaniously boots during the night-long charging process, because of this possibility I suggest charging it with the hold switch in the on (red) position so that Apple firmware will boot in 00.16.21 Quit Genre9mp3 () 00.16.55 # jhMikeS: very leisure suit larry ;P 00.17.08 # lounge lizards? 00.17.23 # something like that 00.17.30 # hehe...I came in as comedian right from the start and the code shows that 00.17.33 # that reminds me, I need to do a sarien port :P 00.17.38 Quit muesli ("ich will Kühe!!!") 00.18.04 # regardless, Paul1989, the backlight is a MAJOR battery hog - and that combined with Rockbox's already larger-than-apple power consumption and the heavy CPU usage of Rockboy makes the Trifecta of Battery Suck. 00.19.31 Quit moos ("time to sleep a bit !") 00.20.15 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 00.20.55 # Haha yeah, thanks Soap 00.22.59 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 00.24.55 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-113-130.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) 00.29.57 Quit PaulJam (".") 00.30.07 Nick thegeek_ is now known as thegeek (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 00.30.17 # http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html 00.30.37 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.32.07 # thegeek: and what does that have to do with rockbox? 00.32.33 # ok, it's been a lnog time since I really paid attention to the boost ratio on my ipod video, but it's down at 35%ish playing ogg q7 as of now. I still use a slightly tweaked version that runs the audio thread on the COP and disables all yields in the codec, but that's amazing nonetheless. 00.32.33 # hehe 00.33.04 # moos: any idea when that was re: recording? 00.33.13 # scorche|work: sorry 00.33.22 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.34.02 # oh, bugger, he left 00.34.52 # i'm getting 30% average boost on q4 00.34.52 # weird, 192kbps mp3 was much slower. 00.35.17 # lostlogic: we now have a test_codec plugin that allows you to get the exact % realtime for decoding that file. 00.35.36 # Llorean: yeah, I saw a commit relating to test_codec, how does one use it? 00.35.45 # Use the "Open With" context menu on any song. 00.35.45 # time for sleep 00.35.55 # I believe you have to add it into your build though, I think it may be disabled by default 00.36.05 # later people, I shall be bad puns no more 00.36.09 # lostlogic: nice to see you around here again :) 00.36.09 # That's dumb, "clockwise from above" or "clockwise from below"? 00.36.25 # does not matter 00.36.27 # let you all rejoice 00.36.30 # er? 00.36.34 # you can switch 00.36.40 # try it when the feet cross 00.36.44 # Llorean: yeah, not there, will check it out 00.36.45 # it's really wierd/awsome 00.36.54 # scorche|work: I'm not here, don't delude yourself. 00.36.56 # thegeek - I mean, this question is meaningless: "do you see the dancer turning clockwise or anti-clockwise?" 00.36.57 # stripwax: try turning your screen 90 degrees, seemed to work wonders 00.37.01 # no it's not 00.37.03 # trust me 00.37.06 # you can switch/invert 00.37.10 # define Clockwise when you are facing someone 00.37.16 # stripwax, thegeek: There are other channels you can take this to... 00.37.16 # stripwax: I agreed 00.37.22 # sorry 00.37.23 # I think what I saw was clockwise, but it's undefinable 00.37.25 # Llorean: yes I'll stfu now;P 00.37.49 # lostlogic: tis a shame 00.38.49 # again, sorry, only reason I posted it is because it's a _really_ awsome example of brain seperation 00.39.26 # thegeek: Perfect example of what would be suitable for #rockbox-community, perhaps 00.39.43 # well, we dont have an "unless it is awesome" clause in the guidelines.. 00.39.57 # jhMikeS: the gray_core log/exp stuff uses s15.16 fixed point? 00.40.13 # preglow: better ask amiconn about graylib 00.41.51 # exp_s16p16?? 00.42.04 # yea 00.42.21 Join Soap_ [0] (i=42c07542@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.42.31 Quit Soap (Nick collision from services.) 00.42.35 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (i=42c07542@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.42.43 # * stripwax sighs 00.46.06 Quit scorche|work ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.49.30 # Is it my imagination, or did someone allow a "Zombie Angel" to register on the wiki? 00.50.26 # hey now, don't go there man, just imagine how cruel it must have been growing up with that man 00.50.28 # name* 00.50.37 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.50.53 Quit ender` (" Our chances of being caught by the RIAA or IFPI are somewhat less than being hit by lightning - or choking on a wasabi-flav") 00.51.08 # Soap: That's the automatic page 00.51.14 # Zombie Angel isn't on the "write access" page 00.51.30 # never mind, I forgot about the difference between http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers 00.51.58 # Users is "anyone who attempts to sign up" 00.52.58 # preglow: I suppose if it's 33-bit you can just shift all the calcs appropriately. :) 00.53.11 Quit Soap ("CGI:IRC") 00.53.29 # 223% realtime on my typical test ogg 217kbps average (q7 vbr) 00.54.26 Part linuxstb 00.56.29 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.56.33 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.00.12 Join mpeccorini [0] (n=mpeccori@mail1.theargusgroup.us) 01.00.29 # Llorean, around? 01.01.02 # Slightly 01.01.06 # :p 01.01.11 # * jhMikeS wants to know what bloated up that pcm change on PP so much ... grrr 01.01.19 # I've been trying to play songs but I can't 01.01.32 # sometimes it was telling me the .rockbox folder didn't exist 01.01.46 # so I formatted, installed the latest ipodpatcher and tried again 01.02.17 # loading rockbox appears more stable, it always finds the .rockbox folder 01.02.24 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.25 # but it hangs when I try to play a song 01.02.31 # and I'm trying with a normal song now 01.02.39 # What type of iPod? 01.02.51 # nano 1st gen 4gb 01.03.33 # I stopped using it for some time, and after that, Windows said it was not formatted 01.03.39 # jhMikeS: it's bloated? 01.03.41 # It's probably the iPod Nano issue currently in existence. 01.03.43 # so I formatted and copied rockbox again 01.03.51 # It can cause errors like that. 01.04.14 # well, at least it's not me doing something stupid 01.04.41 # is there something I can read about that problem? 01.04.53 # I found a post in the forum with a similar case, but it didn't have a solution 01.05.05 # preglow: it's wa like +1800 bytes. wtf. I really don't think I need so much volatile ... or any really 01.05.47 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.07.22 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.07.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.07.30 # Llorean: I restored it with iTunes and I was thinking on starting rockbox installation from scratch. Do you think I'ts worth the shot or should I try something else? 01.08.22 # mpeccorini: If it's the current major Nano problem, it requires coding and cleverness to fix. 01.09.24 # jhMikeS: might be able to use the gray_core.c log, but i really would like one with more precision though. any idea how to craft another one using more frac bits? 01.09.29 # well, I can code but I don't think I can find the reason of the proble myself 01.09.52 # does someone know something about the problem yet? 01.11.16 # preglow: not right off the top of my head. I suppose you'd have to change the constants to start though. 01.11.53 # preglow: did that nice graph come from cheating with doubles? 01.12.38 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 01.13.31 # mpeccorini: It's believed to be a timing issue with the flash 01.14.28 # Llorean: so it has nothing to do with my iPod not being recognized by Windows after a couple months without use? 01.14.32 Join bkix [0] (n=bkix@xdsl-87-78-48-106.netcologne.de) 01.15.41 # hi 01.18.01 # jhMikeS: that particular one probably did, yeah 01.18.19 # mpeccorini: Hm, well yours could be something else... 01.18.24 # ahh, and the current ones do too, yes. i just call log10() 01.18.49 # Llorean: ok, thanks, I'll keep playing with it and see what I can find 01.22.25 Quit gboxx ("Lost terminal") 01.25.37 # preglow: what log10 range is needed? 01.26.19 # domain would be the right word 01.27.56 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.28.51 # jhMikeS: i should just try using the existing one and see 01.28.55 Quit mpeccorini (" I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 01.28.59 # 16 frac bits MIGHT be enough 01.29.20 # jhMikeS: any objections if I commit FS#5852? I get the feeling that when it acts up it is related to my H10, not the patch, and I discovered that the H320 I bought for testing has in fact a bad HDD... I think the patch is a start, if more people test we'll know if it solves everything 01.31.20 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 01.32.17 # maybe someone can give me a hint: my sansa e280 can't be mounted anymore.. neither windows nor linux are able to get it mounted... 01.32.21 # petur: does it at least validate fd now? does mp3_enc also not flush the encoder if an error happens? 01.32.46 # ah right, still have to verify that 01.32.54 # * petur kicks old memory 01.33.50 # petur: mp3_enc seems ok 01.35.14 # So I should add a check for data->rec_file >= 0 where I removed is_file_data_ok 01.35.15 # * jhMikeS just has another quick look at what's going on there. 01.35.43 Join rlpowell [0] (n=rlpowell@chain.digitalkingdom.org) 01.35.49 # I think so. iirc there's no check in file.c for that...maybe I'm just not remembering right. there ought to be though. 01.36.15 # * rlpowell waves. 01.36.40 # I have a newb question, but I don't think it's in the docs. Anyone willing to put up with me for a minute? :) 01.36.56 Join Caliban [0] (n=ianmacd@212.178.35.29) 01.37.14 # petur: ah, guess I'm full of it. 01.37.43 # file.c indeed has no checks... 01.37.57 # for close() it does. what about others? 01.37.58 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.38.12 # seek and readwrite don't 01.39.01 # maybe it should just be added to file.c and be done with... 01.39.43 # write, read, lseek, filesize, 01.39.54 # just the public functions 01.40.11 Quit Entasis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.40.18 # yup, I'll add it 01.43.30 Quit bkix ("Konversation terminated!") 01.43.54 # hmm will do more tests and then commit later - need sleep first 01.44.01 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 01.48.10 Part pixelma 01.48.25 Nick [omni] is now known as [a_quest] (n=omni@bestII.com) 01.48.35 Nick [a_quest] is now known as [omni] (n=omni@bestII.com) 01.49.53 Quit Caliban (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.50.14 # * jhMikeS looks at the gcc asm to figure out what the heck it's doing...removing volatiles did nothing 01.50.23 Join Caliban [0] (n=ianmacd@212.178.35.29) 01.50.57 # So I've got a bluetooth headset that tries to control my iPod Photo through...umm... the bottom port thingy (what is that called?). With the iPod firmware I can change songs and pause with the headset; with rockbox not so much. 01.51.08 # Is that something I can configure, or would that be whole new development? 01.51.46 # oy...gcc...nice one 01.52.31 # * rlpowell is very happy that he doesn't touch asm much any more. 01.52.48 # rlpowell: Rockbox has no support for the Apple accessory protocol - it needs someone to a) write a driver for the (undocumented) serial port in the dock; b) Implement the higher-level Apple Accessory protocol 01.53.16 # linuxstb: So not just "new development" but "new development against an undocumented hardware interface". 01.53.22 # Double ick. 01.53.23 # it's the generated assembly. since I declared the structure packed, it seems it loads ints as bytes and ors them 01.53.25 # Good to know, thanks. 01.53.42 # While I'm here: I love rockbox, and you all (the devs) are wonderful people. 01.53.49 # I suspect you don't hear that enough. :) 01.55.12 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-113-143.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.58.17 # FWIW, rockbox meaning that I'm unable to change songs and pause through my headset is a minus for rockbox... but it still wins. Easily. 01.59.49 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 02.01.33 # ooh...1020 bytes off e200 02.05.38 # sweet lord 02.05.59 # it does that when it has no idea about alignment of packed structs? 02.07.12 # how safe is the "cut and paste" on Rockbox? (e200) 02.08.05 # preglow: I'm guessing it just doesn't know the difference. The asm didn't blow up accessing it so it must have been aligned. 02.09.39 # jhMikeS: well, if it loads everything as bytes, it doesn't mater 02.10.20 # the asm fiq handler doesn't 02.10.48 # gcc does pretty much always align 02.11.12 # it aligned but still byte accessed...to me that's just another bug 02.11.16 # i don't think there's much of a point in packing that struct anyway 02.11.48 # true, but it should know certain members are aligned anyway. 02.12.06 # already gone and building 02.17.01 # seems like the 16 bit log works just fine 02.17.12 # * preglow does the possible eq plotter coming up dance 02.17.33 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435403e9.dyn.optonline.net) 02.17.43 # commit! 02.17.48 # haha 02.17.58 # need to finish the code first, it doesn't work 100% yet 02.18.08 # also find out how the hell to handle the ui aspect of it 02.18.50 # don't forget the screen rotation when LCD_HEIGHT > LCD_WIDTH :P 02.19.09 # ok, that one saved some bytes 02.19.25 # it did indeed 02.19.37 # even on archos? :P 02.19.56 # hey, it's GCC, you never know 02.30.24 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 02.35.01 # bedtime 02.38.15 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-65.reshall.umich.edu) 02.38.17 Join eigma [0] (n=cat@CABLE-206-188-76-21.cia.com) 02.40.32 # nighty 02.41.21 Join lxx [0] (n=lexx@lxxlxx.dialup.corbina.ru) 02.41.26 Join FilipeMB [0] (i=c951a5e8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-240cefc543a61d74) 02.41.33 # hi all 02.41.36 Join webguest35 [0] (i=4a469ecd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ad87f5f44fa09d1b) 02.41.51 # i have installed last rockbox build 02.42.09 # could somebody help me? its just a simple question related to rockboy and save files 02.42.16 Quit Paul1989 ("Bye frunds.") 02.43.09 # but when i coonect to usb my ipod start charging but i cant start playing music on my ipod how i can charge my ipod and play music at the same time? 02.43.46 # lxx, there is no way to do this as far as i know 02.44.00 # I just read zajacattack's guide on how to make the bootloader patching work on windows and in the guide it says to open a command prompt. I was wondering if that is the "run" tab in the start menu. Thanks in advance. 02.44.21 # oh, and this is for e200r on windows 02.44.31 # lxx, only if you boot ipod os directly by menu and select and if you charge by power, not usb 02.44.43 # webguest35, run msdos prompt 02.44.55 # FilipeMB: uh...what? 02.45.05 # webguest35: if you want help with his guide, ask him 02.45.30 # lxx: hold menu while inserting the cable 02.45.58 # scorche, i have a certein .sav that is auto-load with a 2 attached to it, making it to not load the really .sav game, just the quick save made by rockboy. 02.46.41 # FilipeMB: i said that, as you were giving out information that was completely wrong... 02.47.14 # scorche: didnt get your point, sorry but english is not my mothern language. 02.47.30 # scorche anf whats happen next? 02.47.45 # scorche and whats happen next? 02.48.06 # lxx: and it should charge while in rockbox, so you can still play music 02.48.33 # scorche: oh, got you point now.. and i didnt know about being able to listen to the music while charging by usb WITH rockbox, tks :) 02.49.07 # FilipeMB: my point was, please dont give wrong information to people...if you are not sure, stay silent and wait for someone else to answer 02.49.49 # scorche: im sorry, i was just trying to help. are you able to help me? 02.50.11 # no, hence why i am staying silent in regards to that ;) 02.50.38 # my ipod need to be OFF when i need push menu and insert usb cable or its can be ON ? 02.51.17 Quit webguest35 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.51.22 # while running rockbox 02.51.57 Part ThatGuyAgain 02.52.07 # how long i need push menu before i insert usb cable? 02.54.48 # scorche its working great thanks for help - thank you 02.57.00 Quit sarixe ("(EE) Failed to load "quit" module") 02.59.49 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@084202086251.customer.alfanett.no) 03.00.14 Join BonBonTheJon [0] (n=jon@69.61.203.3) 03.02.58 Quit eigma () 03.05.02 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435403e9.dyn.optonline.net) 03.06.02 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 03.06.22 # somebody could help me? 03.07.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.21 Quit lxx () 03.09.29 Quit FilipeMB ("CGI:IRC") 03.10.22 Join webguest84 [0] (i=53823cca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a49098e557376e26) 03.10.35 Nick webguest84 is now known as kesporkes (i=53823cca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a49098e557376e26) 03.11.19 # hello? 03.12.11 # hello? 03.12.16 # hello? 03.14.19 # kesporkes, hello? 03.15.29 # kesporkes, do you have a question 03.17.23 Quit kesporkes ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.17.29 # ...guess not 03.18.55 Quit BonBonTheJon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.20.35 Part hcs 03.30.50 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 03.31.40 Join lxx [0] (n=lexx@lxxlxx.dialup.corbina.ru) 03.33.56 # can i listen music and upload new mp3`s to my ipod with rockbox? 03.34.12 # why wouldnt you be able to? 03.34.55 # at the same time 03.35.08 # no 03.35.15 # why? 03.35.57 # because we dont control the usb connection 03.35.59 # cause you need to be in the apple firmware to use usb 03.39.11 # alienbiker99 what you mean? 03.39.33 # lxx: when you have a usb connection, you are not in rockbox 03.40.05 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp188.hk.centurytel.net) 03.41.26 Join tictoc [0] (i=tabac@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 03.41.31 # but when i have usb connection rockbox DO NOT DISCONNECT uppers not APLE OS 03.41.53 # that is apple's emergency disc mode 03.49.30 # should i run the sansapatcher when updating the rockbox version? 03.49.45 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-98-11.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 03.50.45 Quit lxx () 03.51.44 # tictoc: sansapatcher is for the bootloader...not the rockbox firmware 03.52.04 # nevermind 03.52.39 Join webguest48 [0] (i=4679ecaf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f7badc620b34a071) 03.53.45 # ah, thank you 03.54.54 # hello people. Advice please. Trying to build my database on gigabeat. I go to Initialize then Screen says Builidind Database 6300 files found. Then it gets stuck on that. When I reboot I get a Commiting Database 1/9 on the boot screen. What is all that? 03.55.57 # it is commiting the database. when thast done your database will work 03.59.39 Join VGambit [0] (n=UPP@132.168.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 04.00.07 Quit webguest48 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 04.00.41 Join webguest48 [0] (i=4679ecaf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b7b47ffc16e95439) 04.01.22 Join lxx [0] (n=lexx@lxxlxx.dialup.corbina.ru) 04.01.55 # can rockbox play DTS files? 04.03.26 # nope 04.03.50 # APE ? 04.04.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status 04.05.33 # but i dont understand can i play Monkey's Audio APE files on ipod video 5.5 with rockbox or not ? 04.06.09 Quit webguest48 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 04.07.21 # that link tells you what codecs work on rockbox 04.07.40 Join midgey_ [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-97.reshall.umich.edu) 04.08.38 # whats mean Realtime on iPod (4th Gen and later), Sansa and H10 ? 04.08.49 # whats mean Realtime ? 04.08.57 # lxx: "Realtime" means "Plays back fast enough to listen to" 04.09.39 # so i cant listen normal on my ipod 5.5 ? 04.09.42 # No 04.09.54 # APE is a very computationally intensive format, not designed for portable players 04.10.05 # Use FLAC or wavpack. 04.11.33 # but its real in someday with newer version of rockbox realtime playback on ipod or not? 04.11.46 # Probably not 04.11.49 # The processor is too slow 04.12.04 # As I said, simply use FLAC or wavpack. 04.12.33 # in ipod classic processor the same like in 5.5 ipod or have more power? 04.12.46 # The iPod classic probably won't have Rockbox for years, if ever. 04.13.03 # it is more powerful, but as said, you wouldnt be able to play it there either as it doesnt run rockbox 04.13.19 # It probably doesn't have enough power for anything but the lowest compression APE even then, I'd bet. 04.14.09 # i dont really know how APE scales in regards to power either 04.14.44 # Our coldfires can do the very lowest compression level realtime, and that's it. 04.14.58 # The Gigabeat gets halfway up (3/5) the scale. 04.15.10 # Llorean why you think iPod classic won't have Rockbox for years? 04.15.23 # lxx: because no one is working on it, among other reasons 04.15.26 # lxx: Because it's an entirely new player with new, undocumented hardware and encrypted firmware. 04.15.44 # lxx: It can be considered an entirely new port, starting from scratch, and those take a lot of time. 04.16.18 # likely the hardest port as well 04.16.41 # It's probably harder than Zune would be, for example. 04.17.27 # Rockbox team working on Zune version of Rockbox? 04.17.36 # No. 04.17.57 # there is no "Rockbox team" that works on any ports...but no single person is working on them in any case 04.19.48 Join midgey__ [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-250.reshall.umich.edu) 04.23.39 Quit midgey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.25.03 # and there is no other alternative firware`s working with ipod classic ? 04.26.41 # speaking of the ipod classic. can you put the 160gb hd in a 5.5g? the connections are different i think...correct? 04.27.12 Join webguest22 [0] (i=4a469ecd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-149e3a628c184e65) 04.27.33 # Now, open up a command prompt, enter cd c:\e200tool_dir (where e200tool_dir is where you unzipped e200tool.zip). 04.28.05 # lxx: no 04.28.13 # psycho_maniac: no, yes 04.28.30 # webguest22: eh? 04.28.36 # when i open the command prompt, i get c:/windows/>. what do i put after that 04.28.50 # those were the directions i was trying to follow 04.29.02 # cd c:\e200tool_dir (where e200tool_dir is where you unzipped e200tool.zip) 04.29.04 # that 04.29.33 # afer the c:/windows/> 04.29.39 # after* 04.29.41 # ? 04.29.59 # i unzipped it in the desktop 04.30.03 # well, it doesnt say anything about what it should say...it just says what to type 04.30.54 Quit lxx () 04.31.41 # it says "too many parameters - /WINDOWS" 04.31.58 # what did you type? 04.32.23 # i typed in "cd c:/windows/desktop/e200tool" 04.32.48 # thats where i unzipped it 04.34.48 # it is "cd c:/document and settings/(computer user name)/desktop/e200tool" 04.35.01 # oh, thanks 04.35.03 Join TLS [0] (i=471cc2a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2cb97d6e09fd679b) 04.35.14 Quit TLS (Client Quit) 04.35.25 # that is it you unzipped it to your desktop 04.35.39 # i did 04.35.52 Join TLS [0] (i=471cc2a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cca5991281975bcd) 04.36.15 Quit midgey_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.54 # okay, i apologize for being a newbie :) i would like some help concerning setting up the cross compiler using cygwin on a windows machine 04.37.16 # what issues are you having? 04.37.19 # i already have cygwin installed, but i have no idea how to pilot the darn'd thing 04.37.52 # as in do pretty much anything? 04.37.54 # i read that i ought to run the rockboxdev.sh shell script out of the tools folder of a rockbox source, and that that should do it for me, but i don't know how to run that script 04.38.02 # *nods* 04.38.10 # no..you dont have to do that for cygwin 04.38.24 # did you not see the wiki page? 04.38.26 # see, this is the problem then :) 04.38.34 # yes, but i'm not following it very well i guess 04.38.38 # i've read all the pages a few times 04.38.40 # well, do ;) 04.39.29 # there's something silly and small that i don't understand, and i'm not sure where i'm going wrong. perhaps i don't understand entirely the function of cygwin 04.39.47 # in relation to the compiling process, i mean 04.41.03 # "Cygwin (pronounced /?ts?gw?n/) is a collection of free software tools originally developed by Cygnus Solutions to allow various versions of Microsoft Windows to act similar to a Unix system. It aims mainly at porting software that runs on POSIX systems (such as Linux, BSD, and Unix systems) to run on Windows with little more than a recompilation." 04.41.12 # (from the first 2 sentences on wikipedia) 04.41.55 # okay then-- we'll simplify the issue at hand: what must i do to properly run this dear shellscript of mine? :) that's some terrain i'm not familiar with, to be honest 04.43.34 # what shell script do you need to run? 04.44.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler tells me that i need to run rockboxdev.sh out of the RB source's "tools" folder 04.44.39 # then you are looking at the wrong wiki page ;) 04.44.46 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 04.45.18 # maybe i've missed something on that page, but i think i've done everything on that one 04.46.14 # if i read it correctly, Step 4 is done by the installer for me, so i shouldn't have to worry about the manual path insertion, right? 04.50.19 # where did you see that it was done for you? 04.51.09 Quit midgey__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.51.19 # "To successfully compile rockbox, the cross compiler directory has to be in your path. This is automatically done by the installation script. If that fails for some reason, there are a couple ways of doing so, here's one..." 04.51.28 # just under the step 4 heading 04.53.25 Join itsanick [0] (n=Littlebu@cpe-76-182-207-213.tx.res.rr.com) 04.53.49 # what iPods does rockbox support? i cant seem to find that 04.53.49 # i'm still having problems. Nothing is coming up after i typr in the command. I move the folder where i unzipped my things on the local disk (C:). Then this is what everything looks like, "C:/WINDOWS>cd c:/e200tool" the "e200tool" is what i named the folder which i unzipped all the files to 04.54.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/ 04.54.18 # :) just in the main table on the front page :) 04.54.35 # are you familiar with your own ipod model? 04.54.54 # why do i always over look the obvious? >_< 04.54.55 # yes i am 04.55.01 # iPod 2nd gen nano 04.55.31 # okay cool :) i'm dealing with a goofy problem myself, hence, i'm here :) good day to you 04.55.40 # lol 04.55.42 # thanks 04.55.51 # does anyone know why 2nd nano gen aint supported? 04.56.12 # i think that info is on the wiki 04.56.25 # im lazy >_> 04.57.24 Quit itsanick (Client Quit) 04.57.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus 04.57.41 # Not Supported - the 2nd Gen Nano has completely different hardware to the other iPods (requiring a brand new port) 04.57.45 # oops, he left 04.57.46 # any ideas for my question? 04.58.47 # what are you trying to do? it looks to me that you're setting up your rockbox build folder? i'm trying to do the same, but i'm fumbling through the darkness :) 04.59.58 # i'm currently following zajacattacks's guide on how to do the bootloader patching on windows but i'm stuck on the command prompt part. 05.00.00 # TLS: ah...seems i didnt read :) 05.00.11 # so what happens when you try to compile? 05.00.52 # was that question directed at me? 05.00.57 # no 05.01.00 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.01.01 # okay 05.01.37 # that's the thing, i don't really know how to use cygwin. it's installed and sitting happily as prompt on my computer, but i don't really know how to use it. even upon the event that i'm ready to compile, i'm not sure what i have to do to _start_ compiling 05.01.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 05.02.04 # also, you might want to read a linux terminal tutorial 05.02.23 # that's sortof my thought too :) 05.02.33 # any suggestion in particular? 05.03.06 Quit psycho_maniac (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/") 05.03.17 # that is my suggestion :) 05.03.25 # any suggestions for me 05.03.45 # * scorche is trying to eat ;)( 05.05.37 # no, i meant a suggestion for specific liux terminal tutorial :) 05.05.57 # webguest22, are you using \ or / 05.06.38 # TLS: google might come up with a decent one...i dont know how good any which one is 05.07.12 # scorche: okies, thanks muchly 05.07.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.31 Quit webguest22 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.08.42 Join webguest22 [0] (i=4a469ecd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-351e7c77f8baf808) 05.08.49 # i'm using / 05.09.04 Part TLS 05.09.09 # try \ 05.09.36 # i don't see that option on my keyboard 05.11.12 # is there a key which has that symbol 05.11.33 # it is usually above or near the enter or tab keys 05.11.42 # found it 05.15.46 Join bb__ [0] (n=bb@dslb-088-074-131-114.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.16.40 # okay, now i get "C:\WINDOWS\e200tool>" instead of "C:\WINDOWS>, which i hope is right. Now what do i typr after the C:\WINDOWS\e200tool> ? 05.17.10 # type* 05.19.26 Join TLS [0] (i=471cc2a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-06ac583951d31b70) 05.19.59 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp-64-91-85-192.cam.centurytel.net) 05.20.32 # C:\WINDOWS\e200tool>e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom 05.20.33 # e200tool v0.2.3-alpha (c) by MrH 2006, 2007 05.20.33 # Searching for device 0781:0720 ... found! 05.20.33 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest22 05.20.33 # Initializing USB stub (4780 bytes) ... 05.20.33 # Bulk write error (-22, Invalid argument) 05.20.42 # that's hat i get 05.20.47 # what* 05.21.06 # anybody know how to get vmware uncurrupted? maybe a reinstall? 05.21.19 # webguest22: if you are having issues with a different person's instructions, then ask them, as they wrote them 05.21.40 # that person is not online 05.21.49 # then wait? 05.22.12 # it's 11:30 at night and i'm going to bed soon 05.22.18 # ok.. 05.22.19 # wait... 05.22.34 # (wait for someone that will help, or him) 05.22.37 # how did you get e200tool working in windows? 05.23.11 # webguest22: ^ 05.23.45 # i think some people have... JdGordon: see the sandisk install forums, possibly?,,,i think i remember something about that there... 05.23.51 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 05.23.51 # * scorche is still catching up 05.24.18 # unless its changed since i was last in there, someone got it working but didnt post the dirver .inf which is needed 05.24.23 # or something 05.27.09 # i think it changed because someone reported that it worked successfuly 05.27.15 # psycho_maniac, i'd try reinstalling vmware itself first, then redownloading the vmware image 05.28.06 # well i was going to reinstall and noticed it had a repair button. so im trying that first. 05.28.22 Quit bb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.48 # which seems pretty much like a reinstall 05.29.24 # JdGordon, zajacattack posted the stuff to do it in windows xp 05.29.35 # linkage? 05.29.57 # it is in the wiki on rockbox 05.30.27 # hmm i see... 05.30.37 # * JdGordon should work in his proper e200r installer again 05.32.03 # if i reinstall vmware my source in /home will still be there correct? 05.33.49 # yes...vmware is just the program that loads the images 05.36.19 # how do i uninstall vmware? i dont see a uninstall icon 05.37.58 # psycho_maniac: depends on how you installed it 05.38.12 # psycho_maniac: did you install it with the .rpm or with the .tar.gz perl installer? 05.39.04 # psycho_maniac: if you installed it with the non-rpm installer then you should have a file /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl that you would run to remove it 05.39.26 # if you used the rpm package then all you have to do is 'rpm -e VMware-*' 05.39.41 # i used the exe instalelr 05.40.27 # oh sorry I don't do windows 05.41.58 # "Now, execute e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom" how do i do that? 05.42.40 # exactly as it says 05.43.07 # do i double-click it? 05.43.26 # does it say to? 05.43.40 # it just says to execute it 05.44.06 # type that in the command prompt 05.44.14 # okay 05.44.40 # anybody know windows? if i use the uninstall window will it remove the the rockbox stuff? ie the vurtial disk file 05.45.00 # [20:31:02] if i reinstall vmware my source in /home will still be there correct? 05.45.00 # [20:32:48] yes...vmware is just the program that loads the images 05.45.30 # even if i have the vurtial disk file in the vmware player folders? 05.45.53 # that depends how their uninstall script works...just move it 05.48.04 # ill just uninstall it. i have the disk files backed up i see. 05.48.47 # C:\WINDOWS\e200tool>e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom 05.48.47 # e200tool v0.2.3-alpha (c) by MrH 2006, 2007 05.48.47 # Searching for device 0781:0720 ... found! 05.48.47 # Initializing USB stub (4780 bytes) ... 05.48.47 # Length write error (-5, Input/Output error) 05.48.57 # that's exactly what i get 05.49.16 Join random_desu_is_s [0] (n=chatzill@85.234.50.28) 05.55.10 Join sdoyon [0] (n=steph@modemcable193.152-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) 05.57.41 # could the vurtial disk get currupted? 05.58.59 # it is a file 05.59.09 # any file can "get corrupted" 06.01.20 # well if this dont work then ill just overwrite those files. i have no idea what happened. i was transfering a file and forgot and closed vmware player 06.05.51 Part TLS 06.11.04 Quit webguest22 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.16.13 Quit qweru ("moo") 06.18.58 Part anonobomber 06.19.04 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 06.20.16 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 06.22.33 Quit qwm (Remote closed the connection) 06.22.46 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h38n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 06.22.53 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 06.23.20 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 06.23.26 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@66.172.231.192) 06.26.41 Quit lazka ("I'm off now") 06.27.27 Join elinenbe_ [0] (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 06.31.11 Join SS [0] (n=SS@ip68-2-137-193.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.31.17 # hello is anyone awake? 06.32.11 # when i goto the database menu ... where is it reading these files from? i have 60,000+ mp3s and the search feature isnt working 06.32.37 # only 7 mp3s are in the database menu 06.32.59 # it's reading the files from your database. 06.33.08 # which you tell it to make. 06.33.27 # so how do i tell it to make a database with all of my files + folders recursively 06.33.37 # although, the first time you looked there, it should have asked you if you wanted to make one 06.33.52 # hmm... I don't have the menu in front of me right now, but look for it. 06.33.56 # somewhere in some settings. 06.34.16 # update database? 06.34.31 # ah ok 06.34.34 # thank you found it 06.36.04 # still the same files in the database :\ 06.37.20 # what if you try initialize now (spelt wrong i think) 06.38.43 # tried that as well 06.39.13 # maybe its sitll updating in the background 06.39.21 # doesnt feel like anythings moving though 06.40.07 # do you see the disk access icon in the top right corner on the status bar? 06.41.02 # what does it look like? a cd with a wrench? 06.41.15 # or a cd? lol the icon is tiny 06.41.26 # yes 06.41.33 # k yep 06.41.47 # are you playing music? 06.41.59 # nope 06.42.14 # should be updating 06.42.17 # thank you 06.48.20 Quit SS () 06.48.24 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.48.24 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 06.54.40 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.56.51 Quit sdoyon ("ircII EPIC4-2.4 -- Are we there yet?") 07.02.30 Quit sslashes ("leaving") 07.07.25 Join cka3ka [0] (i=cc34d748@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c8d821e8d8512d4c) 07.07.34 # hey guys, any non-idle engineers here? 07.07.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.07.49 # * cka3ka hopes for a yes from anyone 07.07.56 # really...anyone? 07.08.25 # if you have a question about rockbox, ask it 07.08.29 # you typically get better results if you ask a specific question....and wait more than 22 seconds before asking again 07.08.48 # advcomp2019: hahaha, thanks =-) nah, i used to idle here a lot, but i need to interview an 07.08.54 # 'engineer' for a college course 07.09.14 # hahaha, thanks =-) nah, i used to idle here a lot, but i need to interview an 'engineer' for a college course 07.09.20 # excuse the double type... 07.09.33 # "engineer" is a very broad term 07.09.43 # i know =\ which is why im having a hard time 07.09.56 # basically, any sort of engineer, be it chemical or aerospace 07.10.11 # mind coming into rockbox-community?....this si a bit offtopic here 07.10.33 # good call 07.10.45 # give me a sec, i was running java, startin up mirc 07.11.04 # looks like cgi:irc to me (not java ;) 07.12.03 Quit cka3ka (Client Quit) 07.12.41 Join timekeeper [0] (n=timekeep@n102h163.wsr.mun.ca) 07.12.51 # lol, I just loaded rockbox onto my ipod video U2... 07.12.55 Join Cka3ka [0] (n=2@nat01-metzger-ext.Rutgers.EDU) 07.13.00 # let's just say it doesnt play well with untagged chinese songs :( 07.13.00 # there we go 07.13.05 # I have half a playlist of 07.13.35 Part Cka3ka 07.15.02 # timekeeper, that means your files are not tagged correctly 07.15.19 # ...or untagged, as it says 07.15.56 # timekeeper: what were you expecting it to do with untagged songs?...pull the information out of the air? 07.17.31 # lol 07.17.37 # How come it didnt show in original firmware? 07.17.47 # anyway I can fix it? 07.17.54 # tag your songs properly 07.17.58 # why doesnt it grab the name from the mp3 filename? because ipod garbles it? 07.18.05 # can I use itunes to tag em 07.18.06 # itunes does, yes 07.18.12 # ok 07.18.14 # thanks 07.18.33 # but also, people can name their files in many many different ways...how would it know what is artist, etc? 07.18.51 # true 07.18.55 # but it may give me a clue 07.18.59 # I had no idea they were untagged 07.19.35 # I really really like the crossfading feature though 07.19.40 # surprising the ofw didnt have it 07.19.52 # do I need to turn rockbox off when I plug in the usb? 07.20.05 # no...it should reboot into emergency disk mode 07.20.25 # um, 'emergency'...ok 07.20.33 # it is just what they call it 07.20.42 # and I can sync stuff and all normally 07.20.44 # oh neat 07.20.47 # the ofw screen just came up 07.22.14 # jhMikeS: whoa, one single attribute and such a big delta... 07.22.25 # with the words "do not disconnect"? 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Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 08.20.49 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 08.22.55 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.23.31 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 08.28.26 Join chris_mt [0] (n=chatzill@host-69-145-134-192.grf-mt.client.bresnan.net) 08.28.49 # nice to see a few folks here :) 08.29.19 # anyone awake? 08.31.43 # hmmm, not very exciting tonight, but kinda late in the US. 08.31.55 # I'm falling asleep here 08.32.03 # i'm trying not to :D 08.32.11 # I think I'll just go 08.32.14 # working on the ines port 08.32.21 # ah, good 08.32.25 # infones I guess. 08.32.26 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.32.29 # any progress? 08.32.35 # kinda 08.32.35 # 'morning' LinusN 08.32.39 # on ipod 5.5g 08.32.44 # morning 08.32.57 # got it running at a decent speed by enabling the skip frames feature 08.33.12 # and I optimized the framebuffer access in a few places. 08.33.20 # now i'm messing with button mapping 08.33.34 # mo0ning 08.33.45 # anyone played much with rockboy? 08.33.57 # I'm wondering what the standard button mappings are for ipod 08.34.11 # chris_mt: should be in the source 08.34.18 # yeah, I suppose :) 08.34.32 # easier to ask. 08.34.57 # so I have megaman 3 running nice and pretty here, but controls aren't working well. 08.35.03 # and no sound. 08.36.13 # anyone know about profling on rockbox? I understand it's 68k platforms only for now... 08.36.59 # so, markun, linusn, what's your role with rockbox? users? fans? developers? 08.37.08 # founder 08.37.14 # nice! 08.37.21 # I just discovered it. 08.37.37 # got an ipod last thursday and have been coding since then. 08.37.39 # :) 08.37.45 # greato 08.37.53 # very cool platform. 08.38.23 # so are you associated with the archos platform somehow? 08.38.29 # I'm not sure how that all works. 08.38.41 # is it a sponsored project? 08.40.01 # well, the project began with the archos platform, so yes 08.40.13 # we accept donations, but that's about it 08.40.34 # we have some sponsored servers and bandwidth 08.41.01 # do you work for archos? 08.41.04 # just curious. 08.41.12 # I'm looking at their site now. 08.41.27 # the yoga girl is hot. :) 08.42.32 # no, i don't work for archos 08.42.51 # we have had absolutely no help from any manufacturer 08.43.18 # * ddalton great we have a voice maintainer! 08.43.20 # well, that was not entirely true, some chip manufacturers have actually helped with information 08.43.32 # was archos the first platform rockbox ran on? I was under the impression that it was driven by the archos product. 08.43.35 # but maybe not... 08.43.36 # and Sandisk did send us two sansas for the sansa porting project 08.43.42 # wow, cool. 08.44.00 # yes, the Archos Studio 6000 was the first rockbox platform 08.44.02 # my girlfriend has an e260 so I may get involved with that as well. 08.44.12 # LinusN: thanks for all your help last night. I know it must have been frustrating for you :-). But I really appreciate your help. It is working. I just need to fix the battery_access thing so it doesn't repeat itself. 08.44.12 # I see. 08.44.25 # ddalton: great! 08.44.59 # this channel looks to be pretty active at certain times. Are most people in the US or where? 08.45.14 # not too active right now 08.45.38 # we are from all over the place 08.45.55 # I'm in Montana, USA 08.47.02 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13FF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.53.35 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 08.54.23 Join BigBambi [0] (i=86ceaf30@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d19f59852e72c9dc) 08.54.30 # chris_mt: and I'm just a dev 08.55.07 # doing missionary work for rockbox in the US right now :) 08.55.07 # Don't do yourself down! 08.55.20 # Spreading the word 08.55.33 # well, that's pretty cool too. I'm a dev in the real world, but just discovered rockbox as part of my effort to learn some embedded stuff 08.55.50 # at the google devcon there were quite a few "rockbox! cool!" shouts when people saw our t-shirts 08.56.00 # Sweet 08.56.00 # s/devcon/summit/ 08.56.22 # I liked rockbox because it reminds me of pre-windows development 08.56.29 # markun: who else went with you ? 08.56.42 # GodEater_: kkurbjun and scorche 08.57.08 # we also went on a daytrip to San Fancisco together, was a lot of fun 08.57.14 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 08.57.28 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 08.57.28 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 08.57.29 Quit hannesd (Killed by sagan.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 08.57.56 # Gah, meeting 08.57.58 Quit BigBambi (Client Quit) 08.58.08 # markun: are you writing up the tales of your trip ? 08.58.35 # if I was a blogger I probably would 08.58.39 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 08.58.47 # so: no 08.58.55 # just ran out of wine. Probably bed time soon. 08.59.03 # markun: was there nothing interesting to report then ? 08.59.15 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.00.04 # the summit was quite interesting, I learned a lot about how we could do things better next year 09.00.18 # I'll write it down in a wiki 09.00.34 # yes please ;) 09.01.02 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 09.01.08 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 09.01.15 # there is a gsoc summit with notes of the various discussion. I could start by copy-pasting from there 09.01.16 Join pondlife [0] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 09.01.34 # gsco wiki is what I meant 09.01.42 # getting too tired :( 09.02.12 # I can't really get used to this timezone, and tomorrow I will fly into another one.. 09.02.45 # * markun waves good night 09.02.57 # 'night 09.03.01 # 'night 09.03.02 # ... it has begun... 09.03.12 # expet lots of red deltas ... 09.03.30 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.04.39 # "it"? 09.05.47 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet08.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 09.07.29 # Anyone know if there is any work specific to the ipod 5.5g that needs to be done? 09.07.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.07.46 Join Zagor_ [0] (n=bjorn@194-237-150-171.customer.telia.com) 09.07.47 # Other than improving battery life? 09.07.49 # :) 09.09.11 # chris_mt: the piezo driver? 09.09.25 # so that's what makes the clickly scroll wheel sound"? 09.09.30 # yes 09.09.30 # interesting... 09.09.38 # any hardware docs out there? 09.09.42 # haha 09.09.46 # no 09.09.48 # I have not looked 09.09.51 # hmmm 09.10.01 # some disassembly required, I presume? 09.10.05 # Piezo applies to all ipods 09.10.09 # might be fun... 09.10.10 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Connection timed out) 09.10.11 # yes, but i believe there is a patch in the tracker 09.10.36 # The piezo i/f is known, it's just that we need to come up with a nice mechanism to use it 09.10.46 # ok 09.10.47 # (synchronous to scroll steps or whatever) 09.11.22 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.11.34 # so, is it correct that scroll wheel acceleration is not available to the viewer code? 09.11.59 # I see some discussion of the scroll speed, but nothing about acceleration - just repeat rate 09.12.12 # there is a patch for that too 09.12.29 # aaaaah. good. scrolling on the ipod is a bit painful 09.12.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7738 09.12.53 # What's holding back the scrolling patch anymore? 09.13.12 # I thought that might be a nice thing to jump into, but the nightly build doesn't seem to have support 09.13.56 # my other thought was porting a RAW image viewer. 09.14.34 # * GodEater_ wants to know why 7738 still isn't ready for commit too 09.15.07 # * Zagor_ just corrupted his c250 fat... 09.15.19 # good boy 09.15.38 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (n=bjorn@194-237-150-171.customer.telia.com) 09.16.02 # so i'm looking at the 7738 diff, but I'm not good at this stuff. Will this be available to the plugin API? 09.16.14 # Is the c200 fat16 formatted? 09.16.26 # amiconn: yes 09.17.02 # but it seems like the OF supports fat32 too. at least it's not complaining... 09.17.45 # it doesn't appear to be... 09.19.57 # Llorean: around? 09.20.06 # pixelma: At the moment 09.21.08 # nothing important, just found another occurance of "cvs builds" in the posting guidelines (in the unsupported builds subforum) 09.21.17 # I'll go fix 09.22.25 # and am I right in thinking that the newest H10 build there should be named differently? How would you go about that? 09.23.18 # I'm honestly not sure how I feel about that one. 09.23.36 # I'd pretty much just assumed everyone would want to give their build some sort of unique name so that people could remember which build was which 09.24.03 # Maybe I'll see if he's named it over at misticriver. 09.24.13 # Assuming the forums speed up any time soon 09.24.15 # ah, I see 09.24.21 # sdoyon needs his name mentioned in the conversion table for SVN activity... 09.25.24 # Llorean: maybe I could just ask him in the thread 09.25.57 # I'll just rename it to "TheMono's Build" for now, and leave a note in his thread suggesting he pick a better name if it's not suitable 09.26.29 # ok, thank you 09.27.41 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 09.32.22 # 'night all. 09.34.49 Quit chris_mt ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 09.45.54 # Zagor: sdoyon needs his proper name putting into the SVN table... and Flyspray rights too. 09.46.16 # righto 09.47.54 # LinusN: would the battery level go from 50% to 40% and then up to 60%? 09.48.14 # ddalton: It might 09.48.56 # It probably won't, but you shouldn't make assumptions. 09.49.32 # Pondlife: then would it go from like 50 up to 70? 09.49.42 # or would it stay roughly the same? 09.55.21 # Like I said, don't make assumptions 09.55.24 # It might do 09.55.38 # It *might* be a random number generator 09.55.54 # if it were particularly broken :) 09.56.43 # Some targets have had a rather inaccurate estimate when first powered up, with the battery level rising and falling as the device warms. 09.57.16 # I think that's been largely fixed now, but your code shouldn't assume a nice smooth progression, in any direction. 09.58.22 # a device going from very cold to warm can get a great boost in battery level 09.58.44 # which in itself is very annoying... 09.59.00 # since the device won't power up due to "low battery" if it's too cold 09.59.06 # ddalton: Basically, if your algorithm cares about this sort of detail, it's probably too complicated :) 10.00.50 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 10.00.56 # Hi Nico_P 10.01.10 # What did you do to fix the 7 second audio start issue? 10.01.12 # hi 10.01.33 # Pondlife: ok I will just make it go off once at 50 and the other levels that I set 20 and 5 10.01.39 # roughly 10.02.09 # No need for a roughly :) Pop a patch up on Flyspray and I'll check it over 10.02.13 # pondlife: the codec was forced to wait for the whole file to be buffered I think 10.02.24 # Aha, but not any more. 10.02.56 # pondlife: so I added something similar to audio_yield_codecs which allows buffering to be interrupted by a new queue event 10.03.20 # and now audio starts instantaneoulsy, whatever the size of the file :) 10.04.37 # Pondlife: I just need to compile it. and test 10.04.46 # I can't get it working on the sim. 10.05.29 # I don't know for sure, but I doubt the sim simulates charging. 10.05.44 # no the battery level stuff 10.06.02 # However you should be able to get one set of warnings (assuming the sim starts at 100%) 10.06.31 # let me see if I can just compile for the sim with out my changes to any sim code then I will test on my player 10.08.23 # any of the GSoC summit visitors here to get us a copy of the picture hidden behind http://googlesummerofcode.jot.com/GroupPhoto2007 ? 10.10.42 # Pondlife: I couldn't find the right place for the call to my function. Let me upload the patch if it works then you will see. 10.11.34 # actually I have a lot of errors so you might have to wait a little bit 10.11.57 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.12.10 # No rush, I won't have time today I fear. 10.13.15 # petur: http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/GSoC2007MentorSummitStairs-MarkedUp.jpg 10.13.40 # thanks! 10.14.19 # seeing any known faces? 10.14.23 # LinusN: what is wrong with this? (It is an array) queue_broadcast(SYS_BATTERY_UPDATE, send_level [0]); 10.14.58 # pondlife: ok thanks. I will just neeed to test it as well 10.15.00 # Bagder: no, you? 10.15.09 # I will to try to get up there as soon as I can 10.15.13 # will try 10.15.22 # petur: no, and the wiki hardly lists anyone yet 10.15.26 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964B2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.15.54 # the pic is smallish too 10.15.56 # markun shaved off his beard so I bet he's hard to find ;-) 10.16.30 # Bagder: I have seen a pic of him post-beard but I still fail to spot him 10.17.07 # somebody ought to buy Google a better camera 10.17.08 # yes, they should've posted a higher resolution pic 10.17.13 # they should've worn rockbox shirts :) 10.17.20 # indeed! 10.17.22 # yes! 10.17.36 # they should be punished for not having that! 10.17.40 # :-) 10.25.33 # what about the 2 guys to the left of R6 with the blueish shirts (one sitting in the middle) - I could *imagine* that this is scorche and markun, but it is really hard to say, quite blurry already 10.26.22 # could be the 2006 shirts, yes 10.26.26 # only they can tell 10.27.00 # scorche: ? markun: ? 10.27.30 # yes, looks like some yellow/black on the blue tshirt... 10.27.40 # Not many female mentors, were there? 10.27.48 Quit TMM (Connection timed out) 10.28.08 # I could spot one there, Leslie who's a google employee... 10.28.18 # hm, two actually 10.28.28 # Bagder: where is she ? 10.28.37 # R10, leftmost 10.29.28 # R12 has a Tiffany (google) 10.29.49 # but over all, not a lot of females... 10.30.03 # pixelma for mentoring next year :) 10.30.44 # oy, what project would that be? 10.31.08 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 10.31.10 # Rockbox The Movie 10.31.17 # pick one from the wiki ;) 10.31.45 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 10.32.44 # hey, sdoyon has got svn access!!! Great! 10.33.12 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 10.33.31 Quit Rob222241 () 10.43.24 # delYsid: I know. Hopefully we can get a couple of patches excepted. But he can't just except what ever he wants. 10.44.34 # * pondlife wants to see playback.c - The Movie 10.44.34 Quit qweru ("moo") 10.44.56 # What a surreal thing that would be.. I suspect no-one would follow the plot... 10.45.04 # hehe 10.46.32 # ok, so this google shot is taken from a flikr pic which is 1024 pixels wide 10.47.10 # oddly enough 10.47.19 # gosh, welcome to the hi-tec world 10.49.30 # * pondlife keeps getting electric shocks from his H300. 10.49.57 # it's taking revenge for all the messing you do 10.50.27 # There's about 25V between the ground on the H300 and my USB/PC case/microphone ground 10.50.34 # Enough to make sparks 10.50.41 # And tingle unpleasantly 10.50.54 # Seems to be my H300s AC adapter... 10.51.14 # btw, if anybody has a 20GB for my h320, or a backside to make it a h340, let me know... the h320 I bought has a bad disk :/ 10.51.15 # This has happened in the past, but I've recently got more metal around me 10.52.15 # http://flickr.com/photos/mayhem/1518425696/ 10.52.21 # * ddalton Has a good feeling the sim will compile :-) 10.52.21 # that's the source of the pic 10.54.09 # Definitely a Rockbox T-shirt there. 10.54.39 # Dark Rock, and light box 10.55.02 # omg, that guy in front with the orange shirt has a strange clothing habit :) 10.55.37 # ? 10.55.42 # I bet he's dutch ;-) 10.55.56 # Huh, is orange out of fashion again? 10.56.10 # pondlife: there's another (unfocused) pic on that flickr page 10.56.26 # Urgh 10.56.33 # I wish you'd not told me 10.56.38 # hahaha 10.57.06 # Ok one question: 10.57.22 # why do devs not like extra menu options? 10.57.45 # Depends on what they aree 10.57.48 # are, even 10.58.24 # Pondlife: why? 10.58.46 # Sometimes it's possible to avoid an extra option, and the associated increase in code size (and resulting loss in battery life) 10.59.18 # so one option contributes to battery life? 10.59.21 # Also, more options means more combinations to test and harder to support 10.59.47 # and what is rong with FS#5555 10.59.49 # Larger code reduces audio buffer, resulting in more disk activity and hence shorter battery life 11.00.08 # ok 11.00.17 # so voice file size isn't an issue? 11.00.28 # That too 11.00.41 # But voice is at least optional. 11.00.54 # Pondlife: Do you use voice? 11.01.18 # Yes, when driving 11.02.11 # But not when DJ-ing 11.02.43 # Pondlife: ok and are you using any of sdoyon's patches? 11.02.48 # No 11.02.52 # ok 11.03.04 # I avoid patches, aside from testing them - one at a time. 11.06.44 # Pondlife: do you have time to test my patch? just make sure it doesn't break the sim? 11.06.57 Join SlimG2 [0] (n=slimg@230.85-200-153.bkkb.no) 11.06.58 # because not sure if it is my patch or the computer here 11.07.22 # Is it on FlySpray? 11.07.40 # no its not done yet. 11.07.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.48 # OK, well I'll wait then 11.07.49 # can I put it on my website for you to get? 11.07.58 # Not if it's not done, no point 11.08.12 # ok all that needs to be done is testing and a setting added 11.08.22 # if it works of course 11.08.23 # Finish it first, no point in external testing until. 11.08.36 # Pondlife: ok 11.08.47 # If I test it, then you change it, I'd need to test again. :) 11.09.06 # yes 11.15.06 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 11.15.09 Join idnar_ [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 11.16.49 # good thing you didn't test it it doesn't work 11.16.52 # :-( 11.22.59 # haha that orange guy is awesome ! 11.24.13 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c1344.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 11.25.33 # Does the latest Rockbox firmware work with iPod classic 80GB ? 11.26.24 # Some places it says it does, other places it says it doesn't, So I'm asking 11.26.37 # SlimG2: no 11.26.56 # the rockbox web page says it doesn't. that's a pretty reputable source. 11.27.10 # no rockbox places say so 11.29.31 # So the "classic" version isn't the same as the "video" version? (I thought so since "classic" seemed to play videos) 11.29.43 # no, the "classic" is 6th gen 11.29.46 # no 11.29.48 # the video is 5 or 5.5 gen 11.30.07 # which of course can be a bit confusing... 11.30.30 # well the front page specifically says "not the classic", so it shouldn't be very confusing 11.30.35 # true 11.30.38 # oh, okay, now I know that :) 11.31.17 # I just got confused by the red text ontop of http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodEightyGB 11.31.30 # and my lacking iPod-knowlege 11.31.31 # ah 11.32.06 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host128-214-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.32.54 # updated now 11.37.45 # Pondlife: got some time just to help me with one thing? 11.38.06 # Go on 11.38.48 # Ok can you help me with my patch? It talks when I boot up and the battery is below 50 but if I plug in the charger and remove it it doesn't talk. Should I upload my patch? 11.39.54 # Yes 11.42.19 # Pondlife: one note. I did if battery less 50 and greater 21 since I want the correct value to be set to the variable. Here is my patch so far. http://pastebin.ca/raw/730535 11.43.37 # amiconn: yes, i expected so, but still don't know how 11.45.20 # Pondlife: did the link work? 11.45.58 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13FF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.47.59 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.49.41 # ddalton: Why all the range checks? 11.50.24 # Pondlife: so it only goes off at the right times 11.50.34 # do you know how it could be simplified? 11.50.43 # That code is definitely over-complicated.. 11.50.58 # * ddalton Will take another look 11.51.09 # I'll pop a patch up, untested 11.51.42 # so are you say8ing I shouldn't bother simplifying my copy? 11.51.46 # saying 11.51.55 # Yep 11.52.00 # Give me 5 ins 11.52.03 # mins, even 11.52.24 # Pondlife: ok thanks 11.52.36 # ok 11.52.41 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 11.52.47 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.52.56 Quit ddalton (Client Quit) 11.53.00 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@203-214-50-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.53.57 # Which percentages should warn? 11.53.59 # 5/20/50? 11.54.15 # pondlife: yes 11.54.18 # all of those 11.54.39 # So what on earth are the references to 75/85 etc doing? 11.54.47 # 70/60 etc... 11.54.58 # Pondlife: making sure it won't repeat over and over again. 11.55.18 # I saw it do that and it wouldn't stop talking I needed to plug in the charger or shutdown the player 11.55.44 Part Llorean 11.56.38 # Pondlife: what needs simplifying? 12.01.01 Join petur2 [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.01.03 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 12.01.05 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.02.21 Nick kclaf is now known as kclafk (i=kclaf@85.95.211.245) 12.04.50 # what exactly is now spoken in the simple eq screen? 12.05.22 # What DAP player would you reccommend me to be used with Rockbox? much storagespace is preferable 12.05.54 # pixelma: haven't checked 12.08.50 Join Entasis [0] (n=Jarred@ppp121-45-126-208.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) 12.11.17 # Pondlife: any luck with the patch? 12.11.26 # Maybe, not tested... 12.11.38 # Will paste one for you to try though 12.12.13 # argh, ac messed up my easy enable sw tone controls scheme 12.12.29 # ac? 12.12.35 # austriancoder 12.13.44 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b9af6.ucd.ie) 12.16.11 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.17.27 # ddalton: Does http://pastebin.ca/730556 work? 12.18.33 # Pondlife: let me try 12.18.55 # Ah, send_level() should be static too... 12.23.02 # ok I will change that. 12.24.44 # Pondlife: I get "patch: **** malformed patch at line 174: " 12.24.52 # what should I do? 12.25.57 # ddalton: Can you get the patch from http://pondlife.homeip.net/images/ddt.patch 12.26.04 # ok thanks 12.26.12 # If not, please create a FlySpray entry and point me to it 12.27.28 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF46AE.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.28.40 # Pondlife: applied just building now 12.28.57 # OK, it builds, but that's all I can guarantee! 12.29.14 # ok do you think it will work? 12.29.18 # Hopefully 12.29.40 # I didn't really look at it but does it recet after a charge? 12.30.04 # You had 2 problems. (1) Your tests were overcomplicated and (2) you didn't put the charger insert/remove check in the right place. 12.31.16 # unfortunately it doesn't build here. errors on line 465 1205 1204 12.31.45 # "normal build" 12.32.36 # Which device? 12.32.38 # do you know waht the problem is? 12.32.44 # h300 12.33.11 # Yes. 12.33.19 # Can you please create a FlySpray entry 12.33.31 # ok patch should it be? 12.33.35 # Yes 12.33.42 # and what do I say and attach? 12.34.59 # should I just say "A work in progress. But the batterly level will soon be spoken automatically at 50%, 20% and 5%" 12.35.04 # Just describe what you think the patch should do 12.35.23 # I'll attach an attempt, but not much time to do further work now 12.35.37 # ok 12.39.18 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 12.39.34 # Sooo... What is the difference between http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml and http://build.rockbox.org/? 12.39.41 # Pondlife: ok it is FS#7910 12.39.57 # OK, patch coming now for you to try 12.40.05 # Isolinear: daily is built (just) daily, the build ones are built after every commit 12.40.18 # Gotcha. 12.40.22 # Pondlife: thanks 12.40.54 # cripes, how the heck am I going to fit the eq screen on the c200? 12.41.02 # Is that the smallest screen target we have? 12.41.33 # ddalton: Give it a go! 12.42.39 # safetydan: no, it's not the smallest. 12.42.43 # I don't believe. 12.42.52 # there's a 128x64, I think. 12.43.15 # Ondio? 12.43.24 # I dunno. 12.43.25 # that's the remotes - and the ifP 12.43.35 # actually I meant the ones capable of software equalizer 12.43.41 # preglow: I'll try to dig up the page again where the algorithm is described. What fp format would be best for eq plotting? 12.43.46 # oh, then yeah :) 12.43.58 # pondlife: all supported Archos have the same screen size and yes it's the smallest - but they don't have the eq... 12.43.58 # you can fit it :) 12.44.29 # maxkelley, it's going to be interesting to try 12.44.31 # Pondlife: thank you. I am building 12.44.53 # safetydan: n1s told me yesterday that the eq is shown on the remotes with one band at a time 12.44.55 # I mean, it fits the existing eq.. how much bigger is your new one? 12.45.23 # maxkelley: it doesn't fit, the last band is missing on the c200 screen 12.45.24 # safetydan: how is this supposed to look? a line graph, bars, what? 12.45.52 # pixelma: oh, I thought it was supposed to be that way :) 12.46.07 # pixelma, that's one option 12.46.28 # couldn't you fit them vertically? somehow.. 12.46.35 # oh, I know. 12.46.45 # maxkelley, possibly, but not with all that information 12.47.04 # have vertical sliders, that show only the sliders, spanning the width of the screen. 12.47.29 # when a user selects that slider, the information and adjustment comes up in a bottom panel spanning the whole width of the screen 12.47.35 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549655CD.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.47.44 # maybe 2/3 of the height to the sliders, 1/3 to the bottom panel 12.48.05 # anyways, I'm off to school. 12.48.09 # good luck. 12.48.10 # maxkelley, that's also an option 12.48.30 # Pondlife: I think this one is going to compile. 12.49.53 # Pondlife: you thought my last one was to complicated. you should have seen the first one. I used an array. 12.50.15 # compiled just got to test 12.51.06 # amiconn: i'm not quite sure yet, it actually looks like the current format would work fine 12.51.37 # amiconn: the result is in decibels, and i don't really need 16 frac bits for that, so the current format should work fine 12.52.14 # i just need to find out why the plot curves aren't placed correctly, and i would say this eq plotter is good to go 12.52.49 # brb 12.54.07 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 12.54.23 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.54.30 # log_s16p16 is natural logarithm though, not log10 12.54.33 # hrm, the rio karma splits the eq menu into two parts, kind of like how we have it now 12.54.50 # Pondlife it is working!!! Thank you very much for your help. I will test it and add the setting. 12.54.54 # I wonder if there's much point in keeping the graphical version of the equalizer menu? 12.55.00 # I'll probably do a log10 and exp10 in the same format, which should replace the crude functions in the peakmeter code 12.55.44 # ddalton: Most important is that you understand why it is working ;) And compare your code to mine.... 13.00.15 # safetydan: i know 13.00.54 # safetydan: the graphical version should be the standard one, if you ask me 13.01.04 # we should make a nicer one, thoigh 13.01.11 # though... 13.01.42 # * Isolinear agrees. 13.03.17 # preglow, interesting. I was thinking that the non-graphical menus have got a lot more useful and that maybe the graphical one doesn't offer much anymore 13.03.29 # well, apart from having everything on one screen anyway 13.04.09 # safetydan: the non graphical settings are a bit too complicated for people like m who don't know much about signal processing 13.04.33 # Nico_P, even the simple one where it's just gain up and down? 13.05.36 # these are all right 13.07.19 # I like to shape the sound on the fly.. It's easier to make changes and compensate for them in other frequency ranges when it's all on one screen instead of trudging through menus. 13.07.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.07.47 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-41-102-86.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 13.07.57 # ddalton: I put an alternative send_level() routine on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7910 ... 13.08.15 # Saves a few bytes here. 13.08.24 # Again, untested (beyond compiling) 13.08.51 # Pondlife: ok I will get that one. I have just modified mine though. :-( so it has the menu option 13.09.26 # I should really say patch by LinusN and pondlife don't you think pondlife? 13.10.04 # If you want, we're both in CREDITS already though ;) 13.11.13 # yeah what I was trying to say is that you guys did most of it I only did a little bit of coding. 13.12.12 Join TMM [0] (n=brm@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 13.12.44 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.13.25 Quit atsea-34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.13.38 # Pondlife: are you on linux? 13.13.42 # No 13.13.46 # Win2K 13.13.51 # what are you on windows? 13.15.21 # * petur hugs W2K too 13.17.08 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.18.35 # ddalton: pay no attention to them - they're both freaks ;) 13.19.09 # * petur sends GodEater back to his corner 13.19.18 # * GodEater_ never left it 13.19.47 # Pondlife: what text editor do you use? 13.19.47 # we need sound-proof corners in here :) 13.20.15 # ddalton: Notepad... or notetab lite, or Visual Studio 13.20.20 Quit linuxstb_ (Client Quit) 13.20.35 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.20.50 # so you need to do all the indenting by hand? 13.21.02 # psst, ntemacs 13.21.19 # Cool, the 4GB MicroSD-HC Card I just received does work nicely with rockbox on my Sansa. OF doesnt even recognize it but rockbox does. 13.22.35 # safetydan: it's an overview thing, when i see all values at once, it's easier to grasp what i'm doing. also, trudging through the multilevel menus when adjusting stuff is just tedious 13.22.51 # safetydan: i would actually like to remove the eq menu more than the graphical screen 13.23.09 # the graphical one should be fitted to handle all needs, also voice ui ones 13.24.59 Join atsea-34 [0] (i=atsea-@gateway/tor/x-7ccf0684d2f86d4c) 13.25.13 Join giantbicycle [0] (n=giant@140.116.226.216) 13.25.15 Part LinusN 13.26.18 Part pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 13.27.20 # preglow, true that. If the graphical one can be voiced then there's no point keeping the other ones 13.27.51 # but we need some maniac to fix it up a bit, though 13.31.53 # also, i wonder how the eq plotter would best be placed 13.34.20 # maniac with time is all that it takes really 13.35.00 # the eq plotter could possibly be reached by holding down a button on the eq edit screen 13.35.11 # the graph would then appear over the top of the eq editor 13.35.12 # yeah 13.35.14 # that would be nice 13.35.20 # let go of the button and it goes away 13.35.31 Join _Zagor_ [0] (n=bjorn@194-237-150-171.customer.telia.com) 13.35.33 # not sure if there's enough buttons though 13.35.46 Quit Zagor (Nick collision from services.) 13.35.50 Nick _Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (n=bjorn@194-237-150-171.customer.telia.com) 13.39.02 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 13.41.28 # almost certainly not on some targets 13.41.36 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-250-44.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 13.41.40 # i guess we could assign long press of select or something 13.53.38 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 13.54.09 # Interesting post about supporting encrypted asf files in ffmpeg - http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2007-October/036406.html 13.56.08 # openssl is bloated? :/ 14.03.18 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.05.30 Join gboxx [0] (n=gboxx@77.179.2.133) 14.06.17 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 14.06.29 Join bluebrother [0] (i=8ry1JbNR@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 14.08.13 # linuxstb: I love how the discussion is all about optimising invert() rather than the ability to decrypt the file... 14.10.11 # hahah, yeah 14.10.30 # * bluebrother wishes to have an auto-duplicate removing logic for the tracker 14.11.24 # Zagor: That's a typical ffmpeg conversation ;) And of course, portability to Crays... 14.12.37 # that cracked me up 14.12.54 # you're optimising something, and at the same time worrying about supporting machines that don't use twos complement 14.13.01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-228-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.13.17 # don't we have FS#7908 already? At least for the targets where it is calibrated? 14.14.30 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy17.netz.sbs.de) 14.15.31 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3018.gwdg.de) 14.18.45 # Which targets are calibrated? 14.19.11 # bluebrother: no, not as he means, if I understand correctly... 14.19.32 # or... maybe I'm confused 14.20.15 # Are you talking about calibrated the amount of power used vs. the known capacity of the battery to come up with an estimated battery life? 14.20.21 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.21.08 # *calculating, not calibrated... lol (sheesh, after 5am) 14.33.48 # linuxstb_, what good is being able do decrypt ASF if we can't do it on a cray? :) 14.37.02 Join elinenbe_ [0] (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.37.17 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.37.17 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.39.23 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 14.41.31 Join low_light [0] (i=c730180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f8e500875d8842e5) 14.44.03 # safetydan: I have a patch for the graphical eq screen for the c200 14.44.14 # hi low_light 14.44.54 # hi amiconn ...borrowing pixelma's c200 I see 14.45.28 # Already tried video? 14.46.28 # No. Is there an elephant's dream version for the c200? 14.47.16 # Use the widescreen version from ipod mini (144x80) 14.47.42 # ah...I'll try later 14.48.38 # http://download.rockbox.org/mpeg/elephantsdream-q6-144x80-131kbps.mpg 14.48.42 # linuxstb_, that's quite interesting... some people have too much time on their hands though, disassembly of your OWN code ;) 14.48.47 # anyone have any nice ideas for a better eq screen? 14.50.05 # here is an "idea" http://www.serato.com/products/rane_series/Rane_Series_Parametric_EQ.gif 14.50.48 # massiveH: haha, yeah fit that onto a 132x96 screen :) 14.50.58 # hey, it's an idea... 14.51.12 # Zagor: what 132x96 screen? 14.51.23 # why not start with the best, and work it untill it fits... 14.51.40 Quit Rob2222 () 14.51.43 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 14.51.44 # pixelma: I can never remember the dimension of the c200 display... 14.52.09 # it's only 80 pixels high ;) 14.52.11 Quit VGambit (".•«UPP»•.") 14.52.20 # Zagor: any luck the the microsd slot? 14.52.40 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 14.52.50 # no I haven't looked at it anymore. I'm currently enjoying myself with usb code. 14.54.03 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 14.54.07 # Is there a firmware update for the e200 that makes SDHC work? 14.54.21 # delYsid: yeah it's called rockbox :) 14.54.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp62-155.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.56.20 # so I guess I gotta wait for proper usb mode :-) 14.56.37 # what's SDHC? 14.56.45 # delYsid: yeah, it's a while away still 14.56.46 # It would be sooo much convenient if I could use my sansa as a sdhc card reader as well, not having to pull the card out and use a separete reader/writer to fill it. 14.57.04 # TMM: a variant of SD cards. 14.57.10 # ah 14.57.10 # TMM: high capacity sd card 14.57.16 # hmm... I should probably put up my 2 patches that I like to have some feedback before committing on flyspray (one: enable recording (needed keymap change to make it compile at all) and I think I found usable buttons; two: better virtual keyboard button map (to me)) 14.57.38 # pixelma: for c200? 14.57.51 # yes, just wanted to add that info... 14.58.53 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3018.gwdg.de) 14.59.44 # personally I think c200 is such a new target that ergonomic improvements like that don't need much discussion before committing. it's not like anyone has gotten very used to the old way anyway. 15.00.15 # has that stopped such changes anyway? 15.00.35 # hcs: well it can cause discussion 15.01.38 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 15.01.44 # pixelma: I'm I wrong or is there no shortcut keypress to return to the wps? (like play on the h140) 15.01.50 # ^ for the c200 15.02.45 Part LinusN 15.03.28 # there's a definition of a keycombo to doe that (rec+up) 15.03.32 # *do 15.03.57 # Zagor: Will you be using any of the existing usb code in your implementation, or are you basically starting again from scratch? 15.04.13 Join donsdw [0] (n=donsdx@ip68-101-195-153.sd.sd.cox.net) 15.04.31 # low_light: and rec+up|repeat to stop from the browsers - I don't even know if that works correctly 15.04.50 # linuxstb: I'm starting again. I'm using some of the defines and structs from the linux driver, but that's about it. 15.05.06 # Zagor, ah, thanks 15.05.50 # I started trying to just modify the existing code, but it became too messy 15.06.20 # pixelma: I'm guessing I added those without testing :) 15.06.44 # Zagor: what's the problem with ac's ? too much bloat ? 15.07.03 # petur: pixelma: Bagder: R6 it is 15.07.23 # we were wearing our blue shirts and Kkurbjun is between us 15.07.33 # do I get a price? ;) 15.07.33 # I wouldn't call it bloat, but it's too dynamic. it's basically a port of the linux stack, which is designed for extreme flexibility and driver hotplugging. we don't need that. 15.07.43 # scorche: so you're on the left and markun is on the right ? 15.07.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.07.52 # Is it okay to delete database files in .rockbox. 15.07.58 # removing all that "administrative" code makes for a huge reduction in complexity 15.08.05 # yes 15.08.13 # well, from where we are looking at it 15.08.35 # Zagor: sounds great 15.08.51 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 15.08.57 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 15.09.14 # Zagor: yeah, sounds nice... maybe you should talk to ac about it when you get the chance 15.09.52 # low_light: Will we see m:robe 100 code entering svn soon? 15.09.53 Quit Toki_ () 15.10.39 # Nico_P: He's never around to talk about things with... 15.10.43 # I bet ac will like it... 15.11.05 # Of course not - we're basically telling him he wasted the summer... 15.11.34 # which in some way he did anyway... 15.11.37 # well if he could help with the new one, what he learned during the summer wouldn't be in vain 15.11.57 # not exactly our fault, now is it 15.12.05 # * scorche edits the page 15.13.05 # Is it okay to delete database files in .rockbox? scorche said yes, but I don't know if he was talking to me or not. : ) 15.13.56 # i wasnt, but it is fine, provided you remove the right ones ;) 15.14.13 # amiconn: did you find that page on making log() functions? 15.14.18 # yes 15.15.33 # Thanks guys. 15.16.29 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.16.58 # there are a few pictures (of people and things other than us) of the summit up at flickr...it is best to find one, then click on the set if they ahve one to get all 15.17.06 # donsdw: yes, it's harmless to delete them if you don't want to use the database or if you want to start it fresh - the database will tell you that it's not initialised and if you want to use it, you need to initialise again. 15.17.54 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A37EB.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.20.42 # seems the mentor summit was pretty much a male thing :P 15.21.11 # 2 females (excluding google people who added 2 more) 15.21.46 # you can see a few of us in http://picasaweb.google.com/wolf.bergenheim/GoogleSoCMentorSummit2007 too 15.21.54 # the disappointing thing is i'm not really surprised by the huge amount of men anymoreC 15.23.30 # amiconn: yes...I plan on taking one more stab at getting the buttons to work...looking through the OF disassembly instead of just the bootloader 15.25.11 # amiconn: only thing you need to adjust to make the log function into log10 are the y related constants, yes? 15.27.57 # preglow: is "log" the same as "ln" ? 15.28.16 # Nico_P: no...ln is natural log 15.28.42 # errrr.. 15.28.56 # scorche: yeah, but for me log was log10, i.e. log(x) = ln(x)/ln(10) 15.29.00 # * scorche excuses himself to go get a coffee and not come back till he does 15.29.18 # Nico_P: yeah...see above ;) 15.29.22 # :) 15.29.25 # Nico_P: aye 15.29.51 # preglow: so then you just need to divide by ln(10), or am I missing something ? 15.29.53 # i'm speaking libm here, log = natural log, log10 = base 10 log 15.29.55 Join Rost [0] (n=Rost@dsl-213-134-254-075.solcon.nl) 15.30.17 # Nico_P: sure, but if amiconn needs a log10 anyway, then i'll just use that and save me a mul 15.30.32 # ok 15.30.52 # Hello, I'd like write acces to the wiki 15.31.33 # It's not just the constants, it depends on the slope of the function where to switch from power-of-2 steps to finer ones 15.39.53 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.39.54 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3019.gwdg.de) 15.41.06 # Hmm, I'd find it very useful if the record button on the e200 were actually used for recording (if not in FM, record from mic, otherwise record from tuner). Are there any plans for this? 15.42.02 # delYsid: What does the record button currently do? 15.42.38 # linuxstb_: In the FM tuner, its used to switch from scan mode to preset mode... pretty strange. 15.42.59 # If I want to record something, I have to enter a menu and select an entry there, which is pretty time-inefficient 15.45.05 # delYsid: Does a long press on record do anything? 15.45.08 # I thought long-press was record 15.45.15 # ;) 15.53.36 Quit SlimG2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.53.54 Join Falen [0] (n=chatzill@81-237-250-8-no147.tbcn.telia.com) 15.56.32 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-70-105-170-21.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 15.57.35 Quit random_desu_is_s (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.57.55 Join Toki [0] (n=hsdbvlkb@gateimb.imb.lebedev.ru) 16.01.51 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.02.37 # amiconn: hmm, would it be possible to make a log routine of the same complexity but allowing number of frac bits as a paramter? 16.04.08 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@e178118078.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.04.29 # nope 16.08.53 Quit animeloe ("This computer has gone to sleep") 16.10.49 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 16.11.16 # linuxstb_ & low_light: Thanks for that hint, I'll try it. 16.13.31 # * Nico_P fixed a bad fd leakage in his code which made the code shaky on target... much better now :D 16.13.54 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 16.14.25 Join random_desu_is_s [0] (n=chatzill@85.234.50.28) 16.15.11 Join pondlife [0] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 16.16.27 Quit random_desu_is_s (Client Quit) 16.17.11 Join random_desu_is_s [0] (n=chatzill@85.234.50.28) 16.20.38 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.13) 16.26.45 # Nico_P: fyi...there have been a couple of line selector bug/patches on flyspray recently 16.27.16 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 16.27.24 # low_light: yeah, I've seen them and even assigned them to myself, but haven't taken the time to investigate them 16.27.36 Quit tictoc (Remote closed the connection) 16.27.42 # I'm in playback.c mode :p 16.28.15 # Nico_P, ghe talking about fd's, it turned out that psp (at least the OSS devkit) isn't able to have more than 8fds open at any time :) took a while to figure that one out, the 9th and subsequent fopen() calles would just silently fail 16.29.16 # yeah it took me some time to figure out why my gigabeat was failing when the sim wasn't... the targets only have 11 fds 16.31.22 # we should probably add that same limit to the sims 16.31.38 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.31.58 # B4gder: indeed, it would help debugging a lot. logf is a PITA 16.32.22 # yeah, the sim should work like the target as far as possible 16.35.11 # Nico_P, does the fopen() calls silently fail on that target as well? :) 16.35.36 # TMM: not when you have logf enabled, and not when you're trying to open a codec 16.36.07 # TMM: but even whith logf enabled, you need to check the log... other than that it's pretty much silent 16.36.24 # well, it returns -1 I believe 16.36.42 # B4gder, psp just gave crap :P 16.36.48 # it's -2 actually 16.37.10 # TMM: ah, so rockbox is better. It just doesn't say much to the user 16.37.24 # * linuxstb_ wonders if Zagor will give us USB serial - to enable DEBUGF on target 16.37.33 Join quaal [0] (n=l@pool-71-180-197-49.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 16.37.35 # juicy 16.37.46 # B4gder: adding the limit to the sim would require doing some checking in sim_open, right ? 16.37.46 # linuxstb_, remote gdb :) 16.37.47 # hello 16.37.51 # i have an ipod video 16.37.58 # and was wondering if rockbox is any good for it 16.38.03 # i hate that i cant use my ipod when its charging 16.38.06 # Nico_P: yes I think that would make most sense 16.38.17 # and cant put files in the "audiobooks" section unless they're .aac 16.38.19 # Nico_P, fopen() wrapper that just cuts out after 11 fopen()'s :) that's what I used to simulate my port ;) 16.38.35 # Nico_P, that was of gltron to PSP btw, not rockbox 16.38.39 # quaal: What answer do you expect - we wrote it ;) 16.38.49 # linuxstb, well.. does it cure these issues? 16.38.52 # B4gder: but we can't watch the actual fd values, so we need to keep track of the number of open files manually ? 16.39.02 # i went through the faq a bit 16.39.04 # didnt see it 16.39.07 # quaal: It has it's own issues, different from Apples... 16.39.13 # I mean we can watch them but they don't give any useful info 16.39.18 # Nico_P: yes, but we could just keep a counter and check for the limit as is used on target 16.39.38 # linuxstb, yes i saw song skipping and lower battery life 16.39.39 # yeah, that's what I was thinking... shall I do it or have you started ? 16.40.01 # Nico_P, hurray for arbitrary limits! :) 16.40.06 # please you do it, I'm not on my "home" computer atm 16.40.09 # quaal: I'm not sure if song skipping is still an issue. Lower battery life is though. 16.40.10 # ok 16.40.28 # 1sec gotta go drop the kiddies off at the pool 16.43.25 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m050g.studby.ntnu.no) 16.48.57 # Rost: still around? And what is your wiki name? 16.49.44 # B4gder: is there no specific close() for the sim ? 16.50.00 # ah, no I guess we haven't needed one before 16.50.10 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 16.51.07 # so should I add one ? I suppose it's better than hacking the current... 16.51.20 # yes add one 16.52.28 # Nico_P: We could even translate the fd's 16.53.43 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 16.54.01 # hmm why not 16.54.11 Join Aaron` [0] (n=~@bb-87-81-166-3.ukonline.co.uk) 16.54.28 # Any chance of supporting 2nd/ 3rd gen nanos? 16.54.44 # not very big chance. no 16.55.05 # Why is there only support for the first gen nano? 16.55.12 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.55.21 # Because the 2nd/3rd gen are completely new hardware 16.55.22 # because after that apple went nuts on the firmware encryption front 16.55.30 # And that. 16.56.51 # Aaron`, Apple went out of their way to make it impossible to port rockbox to their new devices, you'll have to take it up with them. Let this be a lesson: do not buy devices with little apples printed on them :) 16.57.47 # B4gder, I think the notice on the front page should be bigger ;) also: some apple scoulding :) 16.58.29 # we should have the entire web site on the front page! 16.58.33 # 'We have found that an apple logo present on a music player is basically a 'fuck you' to the buyer' :) 16.59.05 # B4gder, we need a ##rockbox, and just put a couple of bots in #rockbox ;) 16.59.41 # couple of regexes and standard responses :) 17.00.46 # ([.*ipod.*]|[.*nano.*])\?$/i > Only first generation ipod nano's are supported because apple are asses 17.00.53 # or something like that anyway :P 17.01.22 Quit B4gder ("It is time to say moo") 17.01.45 Join random_desu [0] (n=chatzill@85.234.50.28) 17.03.15 Quit random_desu_is_s (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.03.58 # amiconn: I think I'll stick to just counting for now... don't want to spend too much time on it 17.07.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.09.36 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13FF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.11.14 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 17.18.03 Quit Entasis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.14 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 17.18.19 Quit Falen ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 17.18.41 Join newb [0] (i=c27f0811@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0057bed93646536a) 17.19.46 Part pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 17.19.53 # One of the recent changes in midiplay.c introduced "BUF_SIZE/numberOfSamples" in a for loop. Wouldn't it be better to calculate the upper limit once and use it in the loop? 17.20.19 # All the changes seem to have speedup as the goal... 17.20.47 # wouldn't that be optimized out anyway? 17.21.02 # or amI putting too much faith in GCC here? 17.22.09 # but, a static calculation in a for loop is a bit weird :) 17.24.15 # hmm red 17.26.25 # what did you break ? 17.27.32 Join muesli- [0] (n=muesli-@91.64.230.92) 17.27.34 # Nico_P: You forgot to adapt plugin.h 17.27.49 # I just noticed... commit arriving 17.28.00 Quit muesli- (Client Quit) 17.28.15 # * amiconn wonders whether Nico_P test-compiled at all... 17.28.44 # amiconn: I did but stupidly only ran make bin 17.28.52 # TMM: I'm not sure. numberOfSamples is not a const (in its definition), so the compiler needs to be really smart to optimize it 17.29.30 # newb, if it can't change while executing the loop... 17.29.48 # newb, but then again, I'm no compiler expert 17.30.25 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 17.33.02 # TMM: yes, it's possible to optimize it. But is it done? Have to look at the the asm output. 17.33.11 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@216-160-120-208.tukw.qwest.net) 17.33.47 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 17.33.48 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp84-75.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.35.41 # Hope n1s will check it 17.35.43 Part newb 17.41.21 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.42.17 # hum, from a simple test it looks like GCC does NOT optimize the static calculation away 17.42.34 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet03.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 17.42.45 # Which -O option are you using? 17.43.54 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.44.08 # linuxstb_, tried -O2 17.44.20 # * TMM tries with -O3 ;) 17.44.21 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet03.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 17.44.46 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.45.01 # linuxstb, that just unrolls the loop, but it appears to still do the calculation 17.46.12 # The loop is something like for (i=0;i linuxstb_, actually, I'm full of crack, it does optimize the bogus calculation away, I wasn't looking properly 17.48.11 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 17.49.07 # http://pastebin.ca/730845 <--- produces identical asm on -O3 17.50.30 # (on x86) 17.51.37 Quit midkay (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.57.51 Join KF [0] (i=d541b9c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b2cdb26d27888619) 17.58.35 # or am I missing some very important point here, again? :) 18.00.02 Join ilgufo [0] (n=matteo@host41-190-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.07.13 Join antgel [0] (n=antony@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/antgel) 18.08.41 # hi, are there limits to recording time of a file on an H340, apart from obviously free disk space? 18.08.58 # no 18.09.03 # that's rather cool 18.09.10 # i'm going to see rush tonight ;) 18.09.14 # well, file size is of course a limit 18.09.25 # but you can split during recording, so it's not a real limit. 18.09.56 # i have skimmed chapter 8 of the manual 18.10.21 # is the AGC recommended for recording a loud rock gig? wouldn't i be better off just setting gain manually? 18.12.31 # i'm going to try wavpack for the first time, if i record straight to mp3 it's annoying when i want to split the files into songs as i have to uncompress then recompress 18.13.02 # ooh, or i could press Rec as mentioned in 5.8.1 of the manual 18.13.06 # beautiful 18.13.25 # You don't need to re-encode to split mp3s, use mp3splt with a cue file 18.13.32 # mp3splt.sf.net 18.13.44 # mp3directcut is another app to do that. 18.14.06 # Does that require a cue? 18.14.19 # well, i'm learning a lot :) 18.14.23 # I also think Rockbox splits automatically when you reached the max file size 18.14.27 # No, but it can use one if you have one. 18.14.43 # * nicktastic makes a note of it 18.15.00 # * bluebrother still considers cue files useless and thinks using a format that supports gapless is better 18.15.05 # But if the recording is important, and you have the disk space, recording to wav or wavpack gives you more flexibility over what you can do with the file without quality loss. 18.15.10 # i'm so excited, i have to try and not fuck up like i did with porcupine tree a while ago. i didn't have time how to learn rockbox recording, and the iriver one cut off halfway through :( 18.16.20 Part rlpowell 18.16.24 Quit linuxstb_ ("Client Exiting") 18.17.15 Quit lids (Remote closed the connection) 18.21.40 # Anyone here who can give me write access to the wiki? 18.22.47 # I asked you about your wiki name earlier... :) 18.23.28 Join scorche|w [0] (n=8dc5049d@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 18.24.24 # is there any difference in battery life if i record to wav, wavpack or mp3? 18.25.43 # bluebrother, they're useful for example with radio shows to create seeking positions to songs 18.28.02 Quit low_light ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.30.59 # Rost: if you want write permissions you need to give us your wiki name... 18.31.16 # btw, "that orange guy" is the guy from MusicBrainz (/me is reading the logs) 18.31.17 # I was enjoying my dinner back then i guess 18.31.40 # my name: janwillemvanganswijk 18.31.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/JanWillemVanGanswijk 18.33.11 # you should be able to edit the wiki now 18.33.24 # ok, ty! 18.37.21 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-90.student.uu.se) 18.37.29 Quit Isolinear (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.41.07 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.41.07 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.42.06 Quit TMM ("Ik ga weg") 18.44.00 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.44.12 Quit Rost () 18.47.02 # linuxstb: around? 18.48.55 # linuxstb: I tried using getmntinfo for mountpoint resolving on OS X. As I can't test maybe you could? Diff is http://pastebin.ca/730889 18.51.06 Join crash91 [0] (i=c4da506c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cdc7b72b76ab9437) 18.51.07 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.57.07 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179200233.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.58.25 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.00.03 # guys...mi4code0.9.3 is outdated....should i assume the linux binary is more up to date? 19.02.35 # crash91: for what do you need mi4code ? 19.03.04 Quit FOAD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.03.20 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.03.53 # to decrypt the newer ssansa FW 19.04.06 # it isnt working anyway....cant find key 19.04.17 # 1.3.07P something like that 19.05.06 # another question....i heard you can use the e200R FWs on the normal e200s, how do you do this? 19.05.24 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 19.05.25 Join webguest08 [0] (i=9fbf0c18@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-91563ff98ac51bd3) 19.05.40 Join pondlife [0] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 19.05.44 Quit pondlife ("disconnected has pondlife") 19.06.22 # why do you want to run e200R firmware on an e200 ? then you dont have rockbox anymore... 19.06.22 Quit webguest08 (Client Quit) 19.07.44 # i thought this was possible through the Bl....like decrypting.. 19.07.50 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.07.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.08.05 # i just want to check it out :) no intention of leaving Rockbox 19.08.29 # e200R on e200 gives you nothing than problems.. 19.08.53 # and for mi4code, just compile it your self, as described on the page 19.09.03 # ok....anyway....how do i get mi4code to decrypt the newer sanas FW...i cant compile as im not on linux 19.09.20 # and i havent the slightest idea on how to use cygwin...dont wanna install it 19.10.19 # then you probably also dont want to use mi4code.. just use sansapatcher for rockbox tasks.. 19.10.43 # k nvm 19.10.45 # or rbutil .. :-) 19.11.13 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.11.40 # * bluebrother just posted a patch against rbutil to the tracker 19.12.36 # * crash91 doesnt know how to use rbutil, 19.12.53 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 19.12.56 # * crash91 did it in the old days with manual BL install 19.13.31 # so crash91 doesnt know how to click a few buttons ? 19.13.42 # nope :) 19.13.46 # :-) 19.14.01 # never tried....dunno what those buttons on the mouse are tehre for 19.14.31 Join lids [0] (n=lds@ks37584.kimsufi.com) 19.14.46 # and also sansapatcher on the console is very easy to use.. just try it.. instead of poking with old install methods.. 19.15.20 # any suggestions for anything you would like to see in a WPS? And i dont think im going to touch my install unless i NEED to 19.15.21 Quit Siku () 19.15.53 # i need ideas for a "unconventional" but cool WPS 19.16.13 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.16.46 # im thinking of a progressbar around the track info....like a square or something...or maybe put some AA inside it 19.18.58 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.20.22 Quit crash91 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.20.32 Join crash91 [0] (i=c4da506c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-881c548958924c83) 19.20.34 Quit MethoS- (Client Quit) 19.20.53 # * crash91 pressed ctrl+w by accident....o_O 19.21.23 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 19.23.10 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.29.10 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-069-134-102-044.nc.res.rr.com) 19.30.20 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.31.44 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-40-252-184.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 19.32.23 # any cool idea for a wps? 19.34.00 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust132.brig.cable.ntl.com) 19.36.39 # Ipod video keeps crashing? music still plays wps hangs bookmarking dosn't seem to work! 19.37.45 # there is a forum thread about a 5.5 ipod doing the same 19.37.59 # did you update? 19.38.11 # Yes 19.38.40 # Yesterdays build 19.39.37 # so no then 19.39.49 # Also all buttons are dead could it be in aloop or something? 19.40.18 # * GodEater counts five builds just from today 19.40.47 # reset your config 19.40.50 # and try again 19.41.14 Nick sbeh is now known as gentoo (i=sbeh@serverstaff.de) 19.41.28 Nick gentoo is now known as sbeh (i=sbeh@serverstaff.de) 19.41.39 # GodEater,ok will try that 19.41.53 # and try the *latest* build 19.41.57 # not one from yesterday 19.42.04 # is there an easy way to seperate audiobooks from all my other mp3's with rockbox on an ipod? 19.42.44 # put them in another folder ? 19.43.07 # that's what I do anyway 19.44.35 # Nico_P: io.c:429: undefined reference to `_CLOSE' 19.44.48 # Nico_P: Sim won't crosscompile 19.44.58 # rasher: which ? 19.45.06 # All of them 19.45.07 # on windows ? 19.45.25 # I'm building in linux, for windows 19.46.24 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.47.43 # rasher: is it solved if you add "#define CLOSE(a) (_wclose)(a)" after line 111 19.47.44 # ? 19.48.41 # in the open with menu the text_editor uses the jpeg icon, wouldn't the txt icon fit better? (apps/plugins/viewers.config, line 4) 19.48.49 # Nico_P: error: ‘_wclose’ undeclared (first use in this function) 19.49.32 # rasher: and "#define CLOSE(a) (close)(a)" ? 19.50.00 # yep, that did it.. I'll commit 19.50.31 Join jameos1 [0] (i=dasdas@p57B4DAF3.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.32 # ok 19.50.34 Nick jameos1 is now known as dude (i=dasdas@p57B4DAF3.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.40 # german here? 19.51.01 # hello? 19.51.06 # dude: No, English. 19.51.16 # okay, i have a question 19.51.23 # can you help me pleasE? 19.51.34 # I know german, do I need to translate for you? 19.51.35 # We won't know until you ask it.. 19.52.08 # (bah, could have chosen my words more wisely...) 19.52.24 # okay, ehm , i have a ipod nano ,and the battery is very fast empty :( is it fixed - now? 19.52.36 # no it's not fixed yet 19.52.46 # =( how long i must wait for it? 19.53.03 # possibly forever 19.53.09 # its terrible ^^ only 3 hours or less :/ 19.53.10 # in that, we don't know HOW to fix it 19.53.12 # what? why? 19.53.49 # they dont know the cause for that energy consumption yet 19.54.07 # do you know "Der Papst"? 19.54.35 # do you mean DerPapst 19.54.42 # the expression for that person? or some film/book named equally? 19.54.43 # what ever , yes 19.54.53 # from the ipodlinux project ? 19.54.54 # okay, Im gonna shut up. 19.54.56 # joa 19.54.58 # yes 19.55.03 # yes we know him 19.55.13 # i have chat with him 19.55.26 # and he means , for another ipod was a fix released 19.55.29 Join funky_ [0] (n=repulse@81.202.252.240.dyn.user.ono.com) 19.55.31 Quit MethoS- ("Konversation terminated!") 19.55.37 # Nico_P: actually no, still not fixed.. http://pastebin.ca/730969 19.55.49 # yes, power consumption was fixed on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen ipods 19.56.02 # yes , and this man who fixed that 19.56.10 # that would be amiconn 19.56.30 # works with this other chip, when he have time.. 19.57.05 # its difficult, isn´t it? 19.57.11 # it's undocumented 19.57.14 # rasher: looking 19.58.29 # :( hm okay, how i can notify when its fixed whith the power consumption? 19.58.36 # rasher: doom has a rockmacros.h too 19.59.01 # Nico_P: what does this mean? 19.59.11 # dude, by keeping an eye on the www.rockbox.org front page, and probably MajorChanges in the wiki 19.59.11 # I need the same fix there? 19.59.41 # rasher: it seems to be a bit more complicated 19.59.46 # hmm okay thx :( 19.59.48 Quit ilgufo ("So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish - http://gufo.wordpress.com") 20.00.02 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6222.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.00.33 # where i can get rockbox versions with patches integrated 20.00.48 # i cant compile that self 20.00.55 # Nico_P: ah.. I'm afraid I'm no help, but I'll be happy to test fixes 20.01.10 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 20.01.55 # dude, from the unsupported builds section of the rockbox forums 20.02.07 # dude: have you ever used google before ? 20.02.18 Join ilgufo [0] (n=matteo@host41-190-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.02.21 # hrm, making a logarithmic freq axis with the 16.16 log/exp wasn't as succesful 20.02.26 # ^^ *jokely* 20.02.30 # sry 20.02.34 # but thx :) 20.02.53 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.03.10 # okay, then thx good bye have nice evening 20.03.40 # cya 20.03.48 # thx for the help ;) 20.03.49 Quit dude () 20.04.03 # * preglow misses his floating point :/ 20.04.16 # Doesn't the S do floating point? 20.04.21 # yeah 20.04.26 # So, get to it. ;) 20.04.29 # but i'm not exactly coding exclusively for the gigabeat s 20.04.39 # This is the EQ plotter? 20.04.43 # yea 20.05.06 # Is your goal to show the curve realtime as it's adjusted, or something like that? 20.05.23 # in a way, the plan is to bind a button to flash the eq plot 20.05.29 # Ah 20.05.41 # calculating it will be pretty expensive, so don't want to do it every time something gets tweaked 20.06.02 # Gotcha. 20.06.22 # but it depends heavily on sin/cos/exp/log 20.06.31 # and the latter ones i don't have with the amount of precision i'd like 20.07.02 Join Arathis_ [0] (n=doerk@p508A37EB.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.07.04 # Do you need a lot of precision for how low resolution the screens are, or is it more a case of "If you're gonna do a job, do it right because we might want it better in the future"? 20.08.01 # Can someone please set a dependency from FS#7912 to FS#7704? My non-javascript browser doesn't allow me to do this with Flyspray. 20.08.09 # well, i've got enough precision for display purposes, it seems 20.08.31 # i'm just having trouble with generating a smooth exp() curve for the logarithmic frequency axis 20.08.35 # so right now, the curve looks jagged 20.08.39 # delYsid: Dones 20.09.49 # Llorean: Thanks. 20.10.00 # Can I retitle a task in Flyspray? 20.10.47 # delYsid: A task can be retitled. I'm not sure whether that's a privilege limited to certain people, or if you can retitle your own tasks. 20.11.32 # preglow: don't feel so bad. incorporating two different mutual exclusion types into the kernel ain't no treat either. :p 20.13.02 # Llorean: I dont see a way to retitle 7704. Could you just exclude the part starting from the + ? 20.13.41 # ahahha 20.15.07 # delYsid: Done 20.16.17 # Llorean: Thanks again. 20.16.30 # Never a problem when I've time. 20.16.34 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.209) 20.18.23 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 20.21.23 Nick funky_ is now known as kubrick (n=repulse@81.202.252.240.dyn.user.ono.com) 20.24.35 # guys, if iPodlinux gets USB support, will rockbox get it too?? 20.24.43 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.25.12 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.25.51 # crash91: If someone does the work to adapt the code, but it's somewhat more likely to happen in the other direction right now, I think we're further along that track 20.26.18 # Llorean: k, thanks 20.26.58 # this might interest some people here: http://ftp.build.bg/Books_and_Help/Books/_programming/ 20.27.02 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.27.11 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6222.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.21 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@86-41-127-49.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 20.30.11 # can anyone tell me about a nice C IDE for windows? 20.30.17 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.30.35 # crash91: code::blocks is fairly good 20.30.41 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.31.15 # thanks, ill check it out 20.31.33 # crash91: then again, vim is the best for every platform ;) 20.32.08 # =), it says its an IDE for c++ 20.32.27 # * crash91 doesnt really know the difference between C and C++ 20.32.43 # rasher: here ? could you try http://pastebin.ca/731017 ? 20.32.49 # well, I THOUGHT it could do other languages as well :) 20.33.00 # ;) 20.33.23 # what about notepad++, it has syntax highlighting 20.33.49 # crash91: I'm not much of a windows user, I can't comment. I just kind of liked code::blocks on linux :) 20.34.33 # TMM: Well, i use my laptop now.....my dad uses the desktop with fedora =( 20.34.49 # TMM: found one, crossplatform too! http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ 20.34.55 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 20.34.55 # crash91: it sounds like you need to fix your laptop :) 20.35.39 # Nico_P: building.. 20.35.42 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul) 20.36.16 # TMM: what can i say...windows XP, even windows Vista ultimate cant compete with Beryl.... 20.36.29 # crash91: install linux on the laptop then :) 20.36.47 # crash91: or just install an X server on your windows box, ssh into the linux box, and start another desktop for yourself :) 20.36.58 # crash91: eclpise is far from being lightweight 20.37.24 # Nico_P:Who said i wanted it to be lightweight =P 20.37.44 # crash91: and it's mainly for java... there is devC++ which I think is quite ok 20.37.46 # Nico_P: that seems to work 20.37.50 # TMM: DSL? 20.37.57 # rasher: cool, I'll commit then 20.38.03 # I have yet to find a IDE that doesn't bother me, I haven't found a single IDE that's better than vim 20.38.20 # crash91: I assume the desktop is on the same network as your laptop? :) 20.38.25 Quit random_desu ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 20.38.30 # TMM: Yes 20.38.31 # TMM: I quite like kscope on KDE... it's kate with cscope. can vim use cscope ? 20.38.45 # Nico_P: I don't know cscope... 20.39.25 # TMM: it analyses your C files and builds a database, allowing things like "find definition" or call graphs 20.39.42 # crash91: well then, install putty and xming on windows, start xming with a root window, start putty, configure X forwarding and compression, log into the linux box and type 'gnome-session' or 'startkde' if that's your thing. presto: linux desktop :) 20.39.57 # TMM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cscope 20.39.59 # Nico_P: I used ctags :) 20.40.08 # it's similar 20.40.13 # uhm whats the difference between C# and C? 20.41.28 # crash91: the syntax is vaguely similar, but there's very little that's the same really 20.41.33 # TMM: http://cscope.sourceforge.net/cscope_vim_tutorial.html 20.42.11 Quit crash91 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.42.18 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.48 # crash91: C# is a language for microsoft's .NET framework, which is a bit of a competitor to java 20.44.13 # * TMM thinks C# was a bad choice in names 20.44.51 # TMM: why ? I find it quite good... 20.45.12 Join Crash91 [0] (n=rt@196.218.80.108) 20.45.12 # C# isn't exactly an incremental change, nor a superset of C 20.45.20 # it's a bit misleading 20.45.37 # at least MOST C is valid C++, I don't think any C code is valid C# 20.45.54 # I wouldn't go that far. 20.46.42 # how far? 20.46.49 # That there's no C code that's valid C# 20.46.55 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtj8.cable.mindspring.com) 20.47.03 # not a whole lot 20.47.28 # TMM: afaik, all C is valid c++ 20.47.58 # rasher: well, no... C++ has additional keywords. 20.48.04 Quit Crash91 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.48.26 # question for the devs: would an implementation of dsp_centercut be at all possible given the CPU constraints of the rockbox targets? 20.48.28 # But c++ is still a strict superset of C 20.48.57 # well... not entirely, I don't believe C99 has some stuff not in C++, but don't quote me on that 20.48.57 # rasher: But that means that not all valid C code is valid C++ code 20.49.01 # Llorean: AFAIK, C# doesn't have pointers, does it ? 20.49.27 # Nico_P: I believe it has them but doesn't like you to use them. 20.50.01 # pointers? pointers to what? the same way that java has pointer? :) 20.50.40 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.51.08 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.51.16 # TMM: Pointers as in "variables that hold the addresses of other variables" 20.52.07 # Llorean: not strictly the same as in C then, is it? :) 20.52.09 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.52.09 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.52.29 # TMM: How would you define a C pointer, exactly, perhaps my phrasing isn't adequate? 20.52.50 # Llorean: a variable that holds the address to some bit of memory :) 20.52.54 # Please pardon the off topic question, but I am almost ready to submit a feature request to flyspray but do not want to litter the tracker if it is an impossible request. 20.53.00 # TMM: C# pointers can be used this way 20.53.08 # Llorean: the variable part is entirely optional :P 20.53.20 # AFAIK, they're identical in function to C/C++ pointers, which is why books on C# like to talk a lot about unsafe code before describing them to you 20.53.22 Join stevenm [0] (n=stevenm@infranelson.student.umd.edu) 20.53.41 # Nico_P: compiling properly for me now 20.54.03 # Llorean: actually I just saw you can only use pointers in code blocks declared as "unsafe" 20.54.08 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.54.11 # rasher: at last ! :) 20.54.14 # Llorean: can you even DO stupid shit in C# with the pointers? I thought they were protected 20.54.15 # can you do pointer arithmetic with c# ? ie. *(ptr+5)=0; ? 20.54.16 # Nico_P: Yes, or give the compiler the option /unsafe 20.54.21 # TMM: They are not 20.54.41 Quit morrijr (Remote closed the connection) 20.54.44 # TMM: One of the bigger differences between C# and JAVA is that C# was designed for crazy C programmers who want to do unsafe things. ;) 20.55.00 # Llorean: O, really? 20.55.00 # Domonoky: Yes 20.55.04 # TMM: Yes. 20.55.17 # hum... ok, one wonders then, what's the point? :) 20.55.27 # That one I can't answer. :) 20.55.30 # so c# pointers are real pointers.. able to shoot you in the foot :-) 20.55.41 # I think they might be *more* able to shoot you in the foot 20.55.47 # Since you can point to a variable that's later garbage collected 20.56.07 # nice.. :-) unpredictable foot shooting.. :-) 20.56.25 # yay! undebugable foot shooting! :) 20.56.36 # hey n1s, you around? 20.56.43 # yup 20.56.47 # Davide-NYC: What's your possibly impossible feature request? 20.57.11 # n1s, midi speedup on ipod idea: can it be run at 22050 and then upsampled to 44100 ? 20.57.15 # Moitah's dsp_centercut Winamp Plugin 20.57.25 # http://moitah.net/ 20.57.40 # I love this DSP filter. I use it all the time. 20.57.50 # n1s, either send each sample twice in a row (bad) or linear interpolation.. the same kind as is in synth.c 20.57.55 # On my PC that is... 20.58.23 # I worry that it's too CPU intensive for a DAP but I have no real way of knowing offhand. 20.58.31 # n1s, what do you think ? 20.58.36 # stevenm: I don't know if plugins can access the dsp resampler that the codecs use, I think that would be the nicest 20.58.54 # Davide-NYC: I believe "Karaoke Mode" is already a start of this sort of thing? 20.59.02 # but I guess some simple thing can be implemented in the plugin 20.59.23 # * Davide-NYC downloads the manual 20.59.39 # at the very least, no interpolation, in the plugin.. would still probably sound better than with all the buffer misses 21.00.37 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.01.06 # Llorean: yes! so what I'm asking for is just an expansion of what currently exists. So it should be possible. 21.02.14 # Davide-NYC: Karaoke mode is cheap, same as the "Classic Vocal Remover" in the plugin you mentioned 21.02.26 Join Crash91 [0] (n=evil91@196.218.80.108) 21.02.41 # Ah, so the output is mono. 21.02.47 # The other modes need fft, so I think that's out of reach for our targets, *perhaps* except gigabeat 21.03.04 # I own a gigabeat. (drools) 21.03.04 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@201-020-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 21.03.14 # No, it's not mono 21.03.26 # n1s, someone with portalplayer would have to do testing. I've only got H300 21.03.38 # Karaoke mode outputs (L-R)/2 in the left channel and (R-L)/2 in the right 21.03.55 # stevenm: I have only a h300 too 21.03.59 # i have a sansa....i might help if it isnt risky 21.04.03 # So it's basically stereo with a virtual stereo width of "oo" (infinity) 21.04.08 # n1s, I'm going to very quietly whisper "what about the second core?" 21.04.12 # * stevenm runs away 21.04.51 # stevenm: that's sort of the same problem, one would need a target to test on 21.04.56 # If this is a valid feature request should I call it an 'expansion' of karaoke mode or a porting of dsp_centercut? 21.05.31 # restated: is this a totally different thing? 21.05.48 # * Davide-NYC knows nothing of the underlying code 21.06.09 # stevenm: How would you split a single mixing task between 2 cores? 21.06.18 Part keanu ("Leaving") 21.07.13 # amiconn, in theory, it is easy. midi is synthesized by running the synth code on N independent voices 21.07.48 # Yeah, and? 21.07.51 # amiconn, so, one core does the sequencing (turning voices on and off and setting the parameters) and then the two cores both produce the next sample for each voice 21.08.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.08.08 # ? 21.08.12 # amiconn, ie, core 0 takes all the even voices and core 1 takes all the odd voices 21.08.24 # You have to mix them together.... 21.08.25 # Introducing FS#7918 ... Tracker has been littered. 21.08.42 # amiconn, well, at the moment they are just added together 21.08.58 # what's the problem with mixing? buffer needs to be in iram, but that's that 21.09.01 # Yes, and how do you add data produced on one core to data produced by the other? 21.09.18 # Without continuous cache flushing, that is 21.09.31 # iram 21.09.41 # ...which would hamper performance more than what you would gain from using 2 cores 21.09.47 # amiconn, well, I suppose this would be some what suboptimal, but after the main code finishes its batch, it waits for the other core, and adds in its data 21.09.49 # preglow: Is that large enough? 21.09.59 # eh? just size it to be big enough 21.10.05 # we keep buffers in iram all the time for codecs 21.10.13 # Long live Rockbox. 'see all a yous lata. 21.10.17 # I dunno, does the midi code synthesize left & right channels separately? 21.10.17 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]") 21.10.25 # amiconn, I guess each core can sum its own voices, and output a single int per sample. the two ints get added together and send to the DSP 21.10.26 # That would be a more obvious split, I'd think 21.11.08 # amiconn: I didn't experience any such thing doing the SPC codec as dual and it runs core DSP and synth in parallel. One other thing is if we're careful about alignment, we do have an uncached shadow of RAM as well now. 21.11.09 # amiconn, no, it synthesizes the instrument and then applies panning. it is a lot faster to produce the sample first and then pan it left/right than to go through the math twice 21.11.11 # what the hell is wrong with just having each code do one voice at a time and summing everything to an iram buffer? 21.11.31 # s/code/core 21.11.48 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@85-124-43-151.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 21.12.29 Quit ender` (" On the other hand, you have different fingers.") 21.13.05 # you could assign voices to cores on the fly of course as well if one's overloaded. seems interesting to try at some point. 21.13.18 # that's the best way of going about it... 21.13.20 # not complex either 21.14.10 # preglow: This will of course work - if there's enough iram for those buffers 21.14.21 # the only trick is, after each core does the work for one voice, it has to be added to some memory location, and when all voices are done, it is sent to the dsp as a sample 21.14.23 # * amiconn doesn't know whether midiplay uses iram buffers atm 21.14.23 # amiconn: what is the problem? you can decide how big the buffer is going to beyourself 21.14.28 # we do have 1K of IRAM back 21.14.31 # I guess you'd need some sort of locking 21.15.17 # * jhMikeS is currently serving up the kernel but some little hacky things are possible in the meantime like in mpegplayer 21.15.22 # preglow, I guess you'd need 4 bytes? 21.15.22 # stevenm: Either that, or let one core work one block ahead of the other 21.15.34 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.dsl.t-2.net) 21.15.49 # how does the midi plugin render voices currently? all voices in parallel or a full pass over the output buffer per voice? 21.15.55 # (needs one extra buffer, but no "live" locking) 21.15.57 # amiconn, that works too, but I think more complicated 21.16.28 # preglow, for every output sample, it finds one sample from each voice, sums them all together, and outputs the result 21.16.36 # that sounds incredibly slow 21.16.37 # * jhMikeS suggests looking at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7540 21.17.23 # amiconn: the output buffer in midiplayer is currently not in iram because pcm_play_data accesses it with dma which hangs if the buffer is in iram 21.17.25 # jhMikeS: seems bushel has packed i2s working on video too, i'll commit it 21.17.27 # preglow, well, how else would you do it? generate M samples from N voices into N buffers, then add? 21.17.45 # stevenm: normally i'd render each completely while summing to a buffer 21.17.46 # n1s: Ah yes. That's only true for coldfire though 21.18.02 # stevenm: that way you don't constantly have to fetch the voice data from memory, you can keep it in registers while you render each voice 21.18.10 # preglow: yeah, lets get this move over with and delete all the shifty stuff 21.18.26 # preglow, but you don't know how long each voice will be on 21.18.29 # preglow: But then you have to access the output buffer continuously... 21.18.46 # amiconn: so what? that's fast, it's iram 21.18.49 # preglow, and you can only do that for a length of time not greater than one midi tick, because the next event could alter the voice parameters 21.18.56 # preglow: Atm it's not - see above 21.19.07 # amiconn: that's still one memory access per sample, fetching all the voice state is what, lots more? 21.19.36 # preglow, I believe voice state is in iram 21.19.57 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13FF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.20.20 # it's still more accesses per voice sample than the buffer access 21.20.31 # preglow, only patch waveform data is in ram.. I wanna say both voice metadata (delta, etc) and all the patch metadata (loop points) are in iram too 21.21.30 # this is exactly what the eq does, loads all the eq state for one band, applies it to the buffer as a whole, then does the next band. please check out the code to see how few accesses that makes per sample 21.21.50 # and the eq has considerable state 21.22.06 # i guess you could write a loop into the voice synth function to produce multiple samples at a time 21.22.29 # and add them all into some buffer... then go to the beginning of the buffer and add in the samples from next voice, etc 21.23.02 # it'd be lovely if this could be dual-cored though 21.23.14 # jhMikeS: What would be necessary to port a PP target to packed samples? 21.23.27 # * amiconn could port the mini g2 21.23.38 # or at least upsampled from 22050 for portalplayer.. instant 2x speedup theoretically if upsampling if simple 21.24.21 # amiconn: I think just use one of the LE16 formats preferably the 2nd. Make sure the correct format is selected in pcm-pp.c 21.24.47 # No changes in the WM setup? 21.25.00 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet06.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 21.25.20 # stevenm: that would also make dual coring it tons easier 21.25.38 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 21.25.40 # preglow, producing multiple samples for each voice at a time? 21.25.43 # stevenm: the mixing to the main buffer can be done in whatever order you want too, so as long as you keep it in iram, it doesn't matter what order it's done in 21.25.50 # if it's IIS, IWL=16, and master, I think probably not. 21.25.55 # stevenm: one voice doesn't even have to be done while another is mixing 21.27.01 Join Wiwie [0] (n=goddi@vpnsh0079.fh-trier.de) 21.28.22 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 21.28.32 # * stevenm will be back in a few 21.29.33 # linuxstb_: would be cool if you could check out packed i2s on your ipods too 21.29.55 Quit Crash91 () 21.32.51 # amiconn: any loud protests over me commiting stereo width with 5% step and 250% max? 21.32.52 # Nano, Video are done. So out of the PP502x ipod, the G4, color, mini g1 and mini g2 are still missing. I'll test mini g2 shortly 21.33.00 Nick Arathis_ is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A37EB.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.33.09 # preglow: what's packed i2s ? 21.33.24 # does rockbox allow you to seperate mp3 audiobooks 21.33.28 # like the regular ipod cannot 21.34.11 # Nico_P: transfering two 16 bit samples in one operation instead of two as before 21.34.23 # Nico_P: this also keeps the i2s fifo filles for longer times, making for less fiq overhead 21.34.27 # filled 21.34.46 # preglow: Sure, I'll try and do it later tonight. 21.35.16 # If it works on my color, I'll just enable it for the 4G and we can see if anyone complains. I doubt there will be an issue though. 21.35.30 # preglow: thanks for the explanation, although it's a bit too low-level for me :) 21.36.11 # Nico_P: quite simple, there's a small queue for feeding samples to the audio interface, we previously used 32 bits per sample for that, now we stuff two samples in that same space, which means we have to feed it less often 21.36.24 # jhMikeS: Doing it for PP5002 requires RE'ing the I2S controller... 21.36.30 Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=keanu@pool-71-254-206-137.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) 21.36.56 # amiconn: yeah, poking that will be soon hopefully. 21.37.17 Join lymeca_ [0] (i=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca) 21.37.30 # preglow: nice 21.37.34 # I made a mistake, and accidentally removed part of apps/plugins/bitmaps/.svn. I tried doing svn co on just the bitmaps directory, but it complains about how part of .svn is missing - any way to fix it? 21.37.56 # preglow: is the change noticeable ? 21.38.19 # Nico_P: not very, but should be measurable 21.38.22 # chrisjs169:: Try deleting the whole bitmaps folder and do svn update 21.38.37 # linuxstb_, ok, thanks 21.39.05 Quit ilgufo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.39.51 # linuxstb_, that worked. thanks 21.39.54 # wtf, z80 plugin? 21.40.14 Part bertrik 21.40.20 # preglow: it also prevents any tendency to channel swap when unpausing. 21.40.32 # there is any such tendency? :> 21.40.49 # on H10 there was 21.40.53 # snappy 21.40.59 # * amiconn rarely pauses 21.41.10 # Otherwise I would probably have noticed it 21.41.30 # amiconn: any loud protests over me commiting stereo width with 5% step and 250% max? 21.41.41 # for some reason, pausing on H300 issue.. does not resume until you hit stop sometimes. 21.41.46 # a known issue perhaps 21.42.09 # preglow: Still didn't try it... 21.42.33 # jhMikeS: Seems to work nicely on Mini g2... just the same changes as for the Video 21.42.48 # the 2nd format? 21.42.49 # amiconn: feels ok to me, but i agree the 5% step size for balance is a bit too much 21.43.14 # amiconn: you could try the ordinary LE16 format too, it works just the same on nano 21.43.21 # I'm just trying to have all of them use the same one. e200/c200 should work fine with it as well. 21.43.35 Join ilgufo [0] (n=matteo@host41-190-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.43.37 # What second format?? 21.43.50 # the one not ending in _2, can't remember the full name now 21.44.23 # * amiconn is somewhat confused about the various formats 21.44.42 # I just extended what was committed for the Video, as already mentioned 21.45.03 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 21.46.56 # i don't even know what the difference between them is, just tried both 21.47.50 # amiconn: there's LE16 and LE16_2. LE16_2 is the only one that works on H10 but anything higher than PP5020 seems to also work fine with it. 21.48.05 # I used the _2 ... 21.48.15 # Why do the sansas use the other one then? 21.48.41 # I left it there when I switched sansa but haven't used the other yet. I guess I'll change it over. 21.49.13 # ah ok 21.49.38 # So the HAVE_AS3514 will become a separate #ifdef block? 21.50.47 # just the master mode setup 21.51.12 # yes, that's what I mean 21.52.59 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 21.53.08 Quit lymeca (Connection timed out) 21.53.29 # * jhMikeS is verifying _2 on e200 just to be sure...it's been awhile 21.54.09 # * amiconn would be surprised if it doesn't work 21.54.43 # Anyone with a mini g1 around? 21.55.36 # DSP mode was unstable with recording on H10. RX would sometimes not start and would cut out randomly. 21.55.39 Quit Wiwie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.57.00 # _2 seems to be fine here 21.57.06 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 21.58.29 # no wrapping or other weirdness 22.00.35 Nick Tanuva is now known as Tanuva|Zzz (n=tanuva@83.220.128.10) 22.01.17 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 22.02.26 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 22.03.23 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 22.05.05 Quit Soap (Nick collision from services.) 22.05.08 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 22.05.34 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 22.07.18 Join elinenbe_ [0] (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 22.07.18 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.07.23 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 22.08.43 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@m050g.studby.ntnu.no) 22.10.26 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD545F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.10.26 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.10.52 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.13.30 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 22.13.52 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C8A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.14.15 # preglow, do you mind explaining (in plainer english) your most recent commit of #7917? 22.14.34 Quit stevenm ("Connection reset by beer") 22.15.28 # I see it is just adding packed L-R-16 for DMA/I2S to the iPod video - but I'm curious what packed L-R-16 for DMA/I2S is. 22.15.45 # Soap: there's no dma involved, bushel has that part wrong 22.16.07 # Soap: see logs 21:36 22.16.31 Quit ilgufo ("So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish - http://gufo.wordpress.com") 22.16.58 # thank you 22.18.54 # 3 to go... 22.19.49 Join courtc_ [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 22.19.52 Quit courtc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.21.28 # * jhMikeS wonders if swp is a bust on pp5002 22.25.18 # hmpf! 22.29.29 # probably sw lock for that too :\ 22.30.21 # you've got a pp5002 target? 22.34.10 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.34.28 # preglow: yeah. I just haven't gotten to getting the FW card yet but will. I don't want that in the mix yet to worry about. 22.34.36 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@253-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 22.34.37 Quit atsea-34 (Remote closed the connection) 22.35.33 Join kugel_ [0] (i=kugel@e178088196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.35.41 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 22.35.47 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (i=kugel@e178088196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.35.52 # okay, countdown to the committing of FS#7487 22.39.44 Join atsea-34 [0] (i=atsea-@gateway/tor/x-0fb330b14c5ad6a8) 22.42.23 # roolku: Why not call button_available() button_queue_count(), as that's what it does? 22.42.47 Join Isolinear [0] (n=A@c-76-105-254-119.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 22.42.48 Join rux [0] (n=rux@cpe-71-79-3-232.cinci.res.rr.com) 22.43.12 Quit nicktastic ("Leaving") 22.43.14 # whoops, just hit enter... I suppose I could do that ... lets see if there other issues 22.45.02 # there's some source re-indenting required too... 22.45.32 # configfile_update_entry() is made with two spaces instead of 4 22.45.43 Quit Frazz ("Leaving") 22.45.48 # badger: thanks 22.47.52 # roolku: Why has the "return PLUGIN_ERROR;" been removed from inside the if(parameter == NULL) at the start of plugin_main() ? 22.47.54 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 22.52.22 Join elinenbe_ [0] (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 22.52.22 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.52.27 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (i=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 22.52.42 # a few warnings 22.53.08 # I am checking them out... 22.53.27 # seems to be on 64bit archs building sims 22.54.06 # linuxstb: not sure - will try to find out 22.54.14 # roolku: Also, #include isn't needed in mpegplayer.c 22.54.20 # I mean "splash.h" 22.54.23 Quit atsea-34 (Remote closed the connection) 22.55.39 # linuxstb: true 22.56.09 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 22.57.37 # Not only not needed, but in fact not allowed 22.57.41 # * linuxstb commits packed I2S for the Color and 4G 22.57.58 # Plugins must not include anything from the core except plugin.h 22.58.03 Join scorche|w [0] (n=8dc5049d@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 22.58.10 # roolku: those int casts on line 652-654 in mpegplayer.c should be changed to (intptr_t) or perhaps the whole DEBUGF statement should be commented out 22.58.20 # hm, what is the correct (i.e. 64bit safe) way to print pointers 22.58.50 # n1s: yes commenting out would be the easiest 22.58.51 # amiconn: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/reduced_stereo_width_range.patch 22.59.16 # linuxstb: quite excellent 22.59.19 # only a few left to go now 22.59.30 # roolku: %p ? 22.59.57 # "Packed"? What exactly does that mean? 23.00.07 # preglow: Isn't it just the 1st Gen mini? 23.00.22 # Isolinear: pack two words into a longword 23.00.27 # roolku: There are seveal placed printing pointers. %p won't work on target (not a problem *atm* as mpgeplayer isn't compiled for the only targets which can have debug builds, but might become one) 23.00.28 # in this case 23.02.08 # linuxstb: who has one of those? :> 23.02.16 # Doesn't bluebrother? 23.02.26 # bluebrother: boing 23.02.45 # * linuxstb spots an empty line in docs/MAINTAINERS (also for Nano...) 23.03.16 # I just looked up sprintf and it only supports These support %c %s %d and %x 23.03.21 # linuxstb: i don't use my nano on a daily basis 23.03.28 # * linuxstb should change that line 23.03.40 # s/daily basis/once in a blue moon/ 23.03.47 # anyway, i seem to be doing the nano related stuff in here 23.03.48 # so would casting to intptr_t work, or shall I comment the DEBUGF out? 23.03.49 # so i'll sign myself up 23.03.55 # kkurbjun also has a mini g1 iirc 23.04.23 # how many 502x's are left for packed now? 23.04.41 # roolku: casting to intptr_t will correct the warning but you will get another one for using the wrong format in DEBUGF probably 23.04.45 # Just the mini g1... 23.05.22 # who's got that one? 23.05.24 # amiconn: unless you have any issues with it, i'll be commiting that patch, btw. i can't imagine why anyone would need more than 5% increments 23.06.26 # preglow: I don't think your idea of synthing one voice to the buffer at a time instead of combinig samples first in midiplayer is going to work without quite a bit of redesign... 23.06.47 # or maybe I'm missing something 23.07.23 # Did the copyright issues around "fixing" broken WPSs in the wiki ever get resolved? In other words, can I fix someone else's WPS screen and reupload it? 23.07.40 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 23.08.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.08.12 # n1s: didn't say that, just saying it probably will end up faster 23.08.35 # Soap: not without their consent (unless they are marked CC-SA 23.08.57 # preglow: ah, I somehow thought you meant it would be simple, probably wishful thinking ;-) 23.09.23 # n1s: well, i would be surprised if it turned out to be _hard_ 23.09.28 # everything is the same, just done in a different order 23.09.50 # Soap: They're being "fixed" when the new site goes live, as it'll require CC-SA licensing. 23.10.44 # preglow: well, I might look into it one day 23.11.00 # Llorean: the ones that arent currently CC-SA'ed cant be without permission thtough 23.11.35 # preglow: *plink* 23.12.01 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 23.12.06 Quit jmspeex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.12.09 # scorche|w: Yep, but they shouldn't be grandfathered into the new site anyway 23.12.21 # as a side note, unless anyone has issues with the current version, i will try to get it out tonight after i add the 1st and 2nd gen ipods (unless this will raise a big argument, or people have further unaddressed concerns) 23.12.34 # as a side note, unless anyone has issues with the current version, i will try to get it out tonight after i add the 1st and 2nd gen ipods (unless this will raise a big argument, or people have further unaddressed concerns) 23.12.42 # bluebrother: yo, could you test out packed i2s on mini1g? 23.12.42 # Llorean: nothing will be 23.12.55 # preglow: sorry, my mini is 2G. 23.12.56 # bluebrother: well, if you _have_ a mini1g, that is :) 23.13.00 # ah, k 23.13.23 # I was just about reading what happend recently ;-) 23.13.24 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.53 # has any ipod targets required anything fancy yet? couldn't we just add mini1g as well and see if anyone complains? 23.16.50 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 23.17.01 # does this silence mean to go ahead? ;) 23.17.19 # link again please, scorche|w ? 23.17.48 # copy.rockbox-themes.org 23.18.19 # (yes i know about the spare line below the chart...this will be fixed when i insert teh 1st and 2nd gen iPods) 23.19.44 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.19.58 Join linuxstb___ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.20.21 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 23.20.25 Nick linuxstb___ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.20.29 Quit linuxstb_ (Nick collision from services.) 23.20.46 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.21.17 # Bagder, Zagor: Hanging build... 23.21.42 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@user-11205ba.dsl.mindspring.com) 23.21.43 # yes... 23.25.39 # * preglow goes ahead and commits reduced stereo width range patch 23.25.44 Join jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 23.25.55 # * Bagder kicks build script 23.28.33 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.28.58 # roolku: when I try to use your patch for mpegplayer this http://pastebin.com/d4c406b46 23.29.22 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 23.29.26 # should I just apply it anyway 23.29.57 # he just committed it, no need to patch it... 23.30.19 # the mpegplayer patch was commited 23.32.52 # pixelma: this patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7487 was commited to svn 23.33.27 Quit petur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.33.35 # yes, I thought you were speaking about that one 23.34.20 # thanks yea I just saw it on the homepage 23.35.39 Quit bertrik ("goodnight") 23.35.55 Quit Robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC") 23.37.46 Join webguest64 [0] (i=590d14fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cf9bb0c0c938a6d2) 23.37.50 Part webguest64 23.39.26 Quit Bagder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.39.27 Quit kubrick ("leaving") 23.40.43 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 23.44.14 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 23.45.30 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 23.46.26 Quit PaulJam (".") 23.49.37 Quit Bagder ("*plopp*") 23.49.45 # hrm 23.51.10 Quit jac0b () 23.52.30 Join safetydan_ [0] (i=dc9d468b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c5e576400234239c) 23.57.47 Quit bluebrother ("back friday")