--- Log for 07.12.107 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 15 hours ago 00.00.09 # Imho we should not support drm, independent of any license or technical problems 00.00.34 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@wlrsvd-170.njit.edu) 00.02.11 # My feeling would be that it might not be a bad thing to have a stable codec API once there is a new stable version of Rockbox. If it's technically and legally possible, I think we should allow people to listen to the music in the format that they choose. I don't have particularly strong views on the subject, though. 00.03.06 Part przemhb 00.04.53 # * amiconn is in strong favour of rockbox going gpl v3, if that is possible 00.04.58 # Bagder: do you think logbot's feelings will get hurt if i make another bot for the channel? 00.05.33 # yes, he will come after you with a very large pitchfork. and make your nick light yellow in the log page! 00.06.08 # nooo, not the light (unreadable) yellow!! 00.07.16 # amiconn: did we ever come to a conclusion if we are "or later" or not? 00.07.33 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.08.43 # Not that I know of :( 00.09.44 # Bagder: planned features include an enhanced seen script, !commonissuehere to prevent people from typing responses over and over again (such as irc guidelines, RTFM, broken themes, incompatible version, .rockbox, etc), a message system that will hopefully cut down on "ping: xxxx" and "for the logs...", learning/modifying/searching factoids, etc ...is this desired/worth my time? 00.10.09 # please no... 00.10.13 # dancer (logbot) has all those already 00.10.16 # i hate it when bots become a strong presence in a channel... 00.10.40 # Bagder: heh...can i modify him then? =P 00.10.56 # scorche: Why yet another message system? 00.11.03 # freenode already has one itself 00.11.27 # one that is actually useful and used 00.11.54 # I can't see how another system would be more useful 00.11.58 # such as "bot: tell xxx to kick the build servers", then when that person next speaks, it relays the message as it knows they are there 00.12.21 # or "xxxx: for the logs, yyyyy" 00.12.48 # The message system does its job - but in almost all occasions of 'ping', I don't want asynchronous communication, that's why I don't use it 00.13.03 # and "for the logs..." ? 00.15.17 # And the (for the logs) lines have an advantage over messages too - others are able to follow the communication, even months later thanks to the logs 00.15.41 # I doubt I would use these premade common issue answers, even though this sounds handy but the situation is always so slightly different... 00.16.33 # * amiconn still misses the 'describe' feature logbot once had ;\ 00.16.39 # and there's nothing cooler than being met by a bot... 00.16.52 # pixelma: i can think of several common questions that rarely have variation...such as broken themes, where can i put my music, etc 00.17.16 # How fast can you type 'rtfm'? 00.17.37 # * amiconn actually considered just typing those letters several times 00.18.24 # scorche: but it's also a question of my impression of the person 00.18.39 # amiconn: ah, but that can be rude...also, a bot tends to be able to get away with being much more blunt than a person usually can 00.18.48 # how I would answer him/her, I mean 00.19.37 # i can even type "read the manual" quite quickly 00.20.39 # scorche|w: Yes, but that just transfers the rudeness to whoever manually triggered the bot. 00.21.52 Quit obo ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 00.26.10 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.27.49 # Llorean: Not necessarily. When I first started using Rockbox, there were a lot of people who didn't know that the Database feature existed. It wasn't possible to do a sensible search through the documentation because until you knew about it you didn't know what it was called. I wouldn't think that triggering a bot to point someone towards helpful information in the manual was rude. 00.27.53 Quit axionix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.28.09 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.29.35 # Something like we say "bot: show Llorean the Database manual" and the bot replies with "Llorean: Have a look at http://whatever.the.link.is/" 00.30.29 Part bughunter2 00.30.42 # so you saved yourself ten keystrokes, and whoever just joined now has the pleasure of conversing with a bot 00.31.31 # I just saved myself looking up the link to the right place in the manual. 00.31.59 Join mud-rb [0] (n=mud@dialup-4.156.9.36.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 00.32.49 Join J-_ [0] (n=justin@unaffiliated/j/x-388422) 00.33.25 # Is there support for the creative zen vision:m yet? 00.33.33 # No 00.33.40 # That's why it's not in the list. 00.34.02 # hehe 00.34.13 # J-_: join the people in the new ports section in the forum that work on it 00.34.52 # Bagder: what could I do to contribute? 00.35.22 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.35.27 # J-_: that depends on what you know and what they've found out and similar 00.35.58 # Yeah, exactly. I don't know much in reference to writing code 00.36.05 # =( 00.38.36 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 00.41.17 Quit ender` (" The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane used to keep the pilot cool. When it stops, you can actually watch th") 00.43.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.43.25 Join meoblast001 [0] (n=meoblast@dynamic-acs-24-239-93-241.zoominternet.net) 00.44.04 # hello 00.44.08 # im having a problem 00.44.35 # my rockbox firmware on my Sansa c240 fails to access the original firmware when i plug it into my computer 00.45.01 Join lemur_ [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 00.45.13 # * petur looks at non-existing bot :) 00.45.14 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.45.40 # meoblast001: do you connect it while it's running Rockbox or while it's turned off? 00.45.49 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 00.46.00 # both 00.46.02 # they both fail 00.46.35 # what exactly happens, do you get an error message? 00.46.56 # it ends halfway through switching firmware 00.47.08 # ends in what manner? 00.47.17 # i think its because my MP3 player successfully made it through the fill cycle of my wash load 00.47.42 # so.. probably not a 'rockbox' problem then 00.47.47 # im going to rename or delete .rockbox so the bootloader backs up to the original firmware 00.47.50 # then ill fix it there 00.48.19 # if the bootloader can't boot to the OF, that might not be a great idea 00.48.32 # you still didn't say exactly what happens 00.49.37 # im really confused now 00.49.52 # rockbox failed and now it just says SanDisk on my screen 00.50.03 # Looks like you haven't given up hope for the ZVM which is awesome =D Can't wait to throw rockbox on the ZVM, probably will be a while yet. =) dunno though 00.50.06 Quit lemur_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.50.08 # i have to keep taking my batery out every time i get a new error 00.50.23 Join lemur_ [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 00.51.04 # screw it 00.51.18 # my processor probably blew out 00.51.33 # and Gnome's f*&^ing up 00.51.47 # it has a very large sized XChat icon in my tray 00.52.05 # meoblast001: why do you have to keep taking the battery out?...hold power for around 15 seconds 00.52.26 # and if your "processor" "blew out", the device wouldnt function 00.52.29 # doesnt work 00.52.37 # i think something messed up on it 00.52.44 # i get a new problem every time i try 00.53.03 # plugging it in gives the error CRC32: 3CCE175A 00.53.10 # that is where it gets stuck 00.53.16 # i assume you've waited quite a while since it came out of the washer, correct? 00.53.26 # as in, it is well and fully dry? 00.53.37 # i dried it and discharged it 00.53.49 # i got it midway through aggetate 00.54.21 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 00.54.27 # ok rockbox is deleting itself 00.54.36 # now my system died 00.55.18 # its living longer after this failed deletion of rockbox 00.55.35 # now it froze while in the file browser 00.55.53 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 00.55.55 # you really need to be more specific about what you're talking about. remember, we can't see what you see 00.56.03 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.56.07 # and have almost no idea what you're doing 00.56.21 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 00.56.34 # it locks up to where i cant do anything 00.56.39 # at random moments 00.56.45 Nick Clint_ is now known as Clint (n=Clint@thumb.scru.org) 00.57.01 # it still runs rockbox after you deleted the .rockbox folder? 00.57.02 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.57.33 # "Data abort at 00600072 (0)" while deleting the .rockbox folder 00.57.39 # how do i delete rockbox? 00.57.44 # i want to reinstall it 00.57.49 Quit billenium ("Ex-Chat") 00.57.54 # and see if my original firmware still runs 00.58.06 # rockbox is dual-boot 00.58.21 # hold << while you boot the device 00.58.51 # it still boots rockbox 00.59.07 # deleting the .rockbox folder isn't going to help much iiuc. it will probably just make it fail when it attempts to boot rockbox 00.59.23 # dang it 00.59.29 # i think its my memory 00.59.33 # i think it keeps failing 00.59.37 # do the keys work correctly as far as you can tell? 00.59.43 # meoblast001: shut the device off, then push power, then immediately hold << 00.59.51 # stop guessing at what it is 00.59.52 # k 01.00.20 # it gets stuck at "CRC32: 3CCE175A 01.00.40 # its broke 01.00.47 # does it give an error message or freeze? 01.00.54 # it just freezes 01.01.06 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 01.01.07 # if i let rockbox run... it freezes at random moments 01.01.42 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.01.59 Quit lemur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.02.26 # ill call sandisk 01.05.20 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.05.53 Quit ompaul ("night all") 01.06.18 # i dont have a reciept 01.07.04 # and probably no warranty either 01.08.24 # hmm, I get a fatal error from the tracker, does it work for anyone? 01.08.46 # hm, now it works again just took 3 minutes to loadf 01.09.16 # seems to work for me 01.09.25 # im putting it through rehab 01.10.03 # im slowly teaching it how not to freeze 01.10.07 # by traversing menus 01.10.26 Quit n1s () 01.11.30 # i believe if you hit electronics... they start to work 01.12.48 # if you hit it and it starts to work, there's either a bad contact inside or (most probably) it isn't dry enough 01.12.56 # ok i just slammed it against the floor 01.13.06 # then i was told that only waiting 1 day isnt enough 01.13.08 # crap 01.13.27 # way to go... now hit it with a big hammer.... 01.13.51 # i hate electronics 01.14.07 # next ill accidently leave my server in my pocket and it will get a ride in the washer 01.14.43 # i have bad luck with MP3 players 01.14.47 # maybe i shouldnt buy them 01.14.52 # and get cassette players 01.14.58 # or treat them better 01.15.17 # my first one was broken by my friend when he dropped it 01.15.28 # my sister lost the battery back to my other 01.15.35 # and this one got a ride in the washer 01.15.53 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 01.15.55 # does it have a chance at life? 01.16.47 # well you should probably stop spiking it at the ground and let it dry more 01.16.58 # im letting it 01.17.06 # i got angry 01.17.17 # night all 01.17.17 # i think i have hidden anger issues 01.17.22 # night 01.17.27 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.18.23 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.22.04 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.26.07 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 01.32.22 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.45 Join Ramla [0] (n=ramla@c03.keltti.jyu.fi) 01.34.44 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.38.52 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 01.39.28 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 01.39.56 Nick lemur_ is now known as lemur (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 01.41.54 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.42.25 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 01.42.38 Quit meoblast001 ("Leaving") 01.43.07 # Hey hum. I've got an iriver h340, installed rockbox a few hours ago. I like the whole deal a lot except for just one thing compared to the official firmware 01.43.21 # i mean the playlist system. 01.44.35 # what don't you like about it? 01.44.49 # rockbox's system is just how i use playlists when i listen to music on my computer 01.45.06 # but with the player's controls it just doesn't work for me 01.46.01 # i'm not sure i get your meaning, but if you think you have a better way, feel free to describe it fully in a feature request (on the web page), or better yet, make a patch 01.47.05 # is there a way to have all my files in one playlist, but so that i could navigate in it with either the file browser or database browser? 01.48.04 # i'm not sure exactly what that would mean. you already can view all of the music with the file viewer or database view... 01.49.24 # i just don't find it smooth somehow. i did manage to turn repeat off so it can now jump to the next folder, which is improvement 01.51.41 # i also used to jump between normal play and shuffle all on the original firmware 01.51.58 # you have a few possibilities - make one big playlist of all your music and use "view playlist", you can turn "auto-change directory" on, I think there are some more. Did you have a look into the manual? 01.52.19 # yes, i've read chapter 4.4 :) 01.52.45 # Ramla: you can turn shuffle on and off in the context menu of the while playing screen 01.52.53 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 01.54.23 # mud-rb: mm, do you mean c-menu/playlist/reshuffle? 01.55.44 # Ramla: i don't know the name of the buttons out of the manual, but on mine while you're at the WPS screen you hold "menu" and a screen comes up that allows you to turn shuffle on and off (along wiht a couple of other options i never use) 01.55.57 # the manual explains it better i'm sure 01.57.18 # is this a new feature? i'm using current build, not a daily one 01.58.23 # unless you're using the "release" version, which i think is only for one type of player and is really really old, you're using a version that's built after every SVN commit 01.58.25 # The quickscreen is an ooold feature 01.58.33 # It's been there for years 01.58.47 # there is no release version for iriver h300 series 01.59.14 # also, the manual's chapter 'the wps context menu' doesn't list anything about shuffle 01.59.47 # The quickscreen is not the context menu 01.59.47 # my menu has sound settings, playlist, playlist catalog, bookmarks, show track info, delete, pitch, graphical eq, browse eq presets 01.59.52 # sorry, it's a different menu than the actual context menu, i just never knew what it was called 02.00.22 # oh 02.01.30 # ok, i see :) 02.03.26 Join Shaid [0] (i=shaid@124-168-89-86.dyn.iinet.net.au) 02.03.31 # now that's still shuffle within playlist. is there a way to navigate within playlists contents as if through file browser, so that i would have my directory structure there? 02.05.03 # not as far as i know 02.05.19 Quit lemur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.07.46 # damned.. and no faster way to scroll through a list than by page? 02.08.07 # eh? 02.08.12 # (play+up/down on my player) 02.08.31 # you can search in playlists i suppose, but the keyboard tends to be slow 02.08.38 # Ever tried buttonrepeat? 02.09.11 # Just hold the button(s) for the desired direction... 02.09.32 # amiconn: would be nice, but it seems my player runs out of juice with the fast scrolling :p 02.10.16 # not in the file browser, just when scrolling the playlist 02.12.49 # Out of juice? How? 02.13.06 # * amiconn never uses the playlist viewer during normal usage 02.13.17 # yeah, me neither... 02.13.24 # all processing power seems to go to the scrolling, music playback pauses 02.13.43 # how do you navigate in huge playlists? 02.14.06 # i never use huge playlists...i just choose an artist i want usually and let it shuffle 02.15.21 # I don't 02.15.23 Part toffe82 02.15.40 # I mostly play albums, selecting one album at a time 02.16.03 # Sometimes I play 'various tracks' folders, shuffled 02.16.15 # i guess a file type view of playlists might be useful if you have huge ones, not sure how hard it would be to add. 02.16.56 # there would probably be a lot of annoyances with it, especially if the player has trouble scrolling without the music pausing/skipping/whatever 02.18.07 # I usually also play a folder (album or various tracks) or "click" a playlist of a few of them together - most of the time less then 100 tracks in one playlist 02.18.23 Quit Soap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.26 # no problems scrolling in the file browser. must be some difference in how rockbox handles scrolling playlists and files in file browser 02.19.15 # or maybe it's just the sheer size of the playlist i'm trying to scroll 02.19.43 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.22.18 Join BK [0] (i=4614de9b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-de89ab8d0a731d1f) 02.24.58 # well, i got past most of my problems 02.26.12 # just missing the fast way of switching between shuffle all and normal play 02.27.51 # if you really switch between them enough that the quickscreen or whatever isn't fast enough, you could /probably/ make a change to the WPS and have it toggle 02.28.58 # quickscreen would be good enough, but because in normal play i want to browse for the next file/album with the file browser, it means each time i would like to shuffle all, i'd need to load the playlist containing all. 02.29.01 Quit mud-rb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.29.28 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 02.31.47 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.32.05 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.35.11 # perhaps i'll just have to adjust to the rockbox way :p 02.35.32 # bed calls. 02.35.39 # You might want to check out the power of bookmarks 02.36.10 # coming from a "noob", if you will, does anyone know how the Gigabeat S port is progressing? 02.37.15 # amiconn: maybe they'll provide the answer. 02.38.51 # rockbox experience seems to be like the game Portal, such new environment to digest :p maybe i'll just get the hang of it slowly 02.38.59 # anyways, to the bed now. 02.43.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.52.37 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp189.hk.centurytel.net) 02.52.57 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.57.38 Part pixelma 02.57.55 Join Lars_G [0] (n=Lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 02.59.11 # Question, I have about 3 days old build... and it's not saving the place it was in when it shuts down (I power it on, and wps starts from the beginning of the song/podcast not where it was left).. is this known? I saw nothing about this on the flyspray 02.59.58 # Lars_G, upgrade to the current version and try again. 03.00.16 # krazykit: yeah I just built it. 03.02.07 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.22 # Effectively bug's gone. thanks krazykit 03.07.52 Quit Lars_G ("leaving") 03.12.37 Quit BK ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.22.51 Quit [mbm] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.26.45 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.28.32 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 03.33.05 Join zoexii [0] (n=zoe@156-56-233-77.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) 03.41.12 Join TTThomas [0] (n=tblackwe@c-68-38-172-205.hsd1.de.comcast.net) 03.49.07 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 03.49.54 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 03.53.05 Nick z35_1 is now known as z35 (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 03.56.44 # hi, I am having installation issues (Bad Checksum) on 4G grayscale ipod. I have reinstalled several times, but the problem persists. I used the automated installer on Mac OS X, tried replacing .rockbox directory, then uninstalled and reinstalled twice. I am beginning to suspect an error in the rockbox.zip file available on the server. Does anyone know anything about this? is this the right place to ask? 03.57.48 # are you sure you're installing the correct version? 03.59.45 # well, I've selected 4G in the automated installer, and downloaded the rockbox.zip that's linked to the picture of the 4G grayscale ipod, 04.00.06 Quit psycho_maniac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.00.19 # and my ipod is a 4g grayscale ipod. I haven't tried installing the WRONG version yet... 04.00.27 Quit w0rd54 (Client Quit) 04.00.37 # so it doesn't have four buttons in a row under the screen? 04.00.51 Join w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 04.00.55 # no, it has clickwheel. 04.01.46 # well the next step would be to try manually installing the build 04.01.57 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 04.01.58 # ok. 04.03.57 # isn't it easy as copy .rockbox directory to root level of ipod? 04.05.10 Join Shokra747 [0] (n=chatzill@190.sub-75-225-198.myvzw.com) 04.05.52 Quit Shokra747 (Client Quit) 04.06.42 Join Shokra747 [0] (n=chatzill@190.sub-75-225-198.myvzw.com) 04.06.52 Quit J3TC- (".•«UPP»•.") 04.08.54 Quit Shokra747 (Client Quit) 04.09.20 # ok.. so I just tried again this time with the latest daily build, and it does the same thing. is it possible that I have a hardware problem? 04.09.21 Join Shokra747 [0] (n=chatzill@190.sub-75-225-198.myvzw.com) 04.10.13 Part Shokra747 04.11.49 Join lemur [0] (n=lemur@70.1.233.107) 04.13.53 Quit XavierGr () 04.14.11 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 04.15.45 # try a current build rather than a daily build 04.22.57 # safetydan, at this point I've tried both. There shouldn't be any special installation beyond copying the directory, yes? 04.24.41 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.24.48 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 04.25.26 # zoexii: well no, assuming you have the bootloader installed. Rather than copying the directory, try unzipping the file directly on your iPod. Be sure to overwrite anything that was already there. 04.25.54 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp260-100.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.30.25 Quit TTThomas ("Lost terminal") 04.31.01 # ok, now I've tried unzipping the directory in the root level of the ipod, and the same thing happens. Is it possible that there is something wrong witht the bootloader? 04.31.27 Part J-_ 04.31.43 # well there's no harm in reinstalling the bootloader 04.31.50 # but what is the exact message you're getting? 04.32.06 # can't load rockbox.ipod: 04.32.10 # bad checksum 04.32.24 Quit XavierGr () 04.32.31 # Hold MENU+SELECT to .... 04.32.37 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp260-100.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.32.46 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.32.58 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp260-100.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.33.59 Quit w0rd54 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.33.59 Quit DM| (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit qweru (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit karashata (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit stewball (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit kclaf (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit Thundercloud (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit Gnu47 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit EspeonEefi (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit roxfan (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit thegeek (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit tchan (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit jmspeex (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit freqmod_nx (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit Presence (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit ze (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.33.59 Quit dionoea (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.35.58 # there's not many ways to get that message 04.36.02 # wait, does this really not work over firewire? 04.36.15 # I've no idea 04.36.51 # you can get the checksum message when you're using the wrong build for your target or the file is corrupt somehow (i.e. bad copy, bad unzip, filesystem issues) 04.40.28 # zoexii: the boot loader should also print out a model name. 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And I will laugh at your pain...") 05.56.56 Quit Clint (Remote closed the connection) 06.04.22 Join jturek [0] (n=jturek@64.8.62.193) 06.04.24 # hey guys 06.04.48 # Quick question: I have a newly installed rockbox on my Ipod 30gb black video 06.05.10 # Now when I plug my ipod into USB to the computer, it comes up with a new device found "RockBox media player" 06.05.14 # which I don't have a driver for..... 06.05.57 Join ze_ [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 06.05.57 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.05.57 NJoin ErLo [0] (n=chatzill@207.81.67.190) 06.05.57 NJoin HowdyDoody [0] (n=Administ@c-71-225-221-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 06.05.57 NJoin freqmod_nx [0] (i=freqmod@dhcp208-90.ed.ntnu.no) 06.05.57 NJoin kclaf [0] (i=kclaf@85.95.211.245) 06.05.57 NJoin tchan [0] (n=tchan@c-24-13-84-219.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 06.05.57 NJoin w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 06.05.57 NJoin qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 06.05.57 NJoin EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FIVE-FIFTEEN.MIT.EDU) 06.05.57 NJoin roxfan [0] (n=dunno@171.222-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 06.05.57 NJoin jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 06.05.57 NJoin Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 06.05.57 NJoin Presence [0] (i=presence@irev.net) 06.06.21 Nick ze_ is now known as ze (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 06.07.15 Join Clint [0] (n=Clint@thumb.scru.org) 06.08.45 # jturek: ignore it. 06.09.01 # if you need to mount the device, boot in to the original os or go in to disk mode 06.10.35 Join roxfan[zzz] [0] (n=dunno@171.222-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 06.10.43 Join brown [0] (i=presence@irev.net) 06.10.48 # safetydan: whats the easiest way to switch back and forth between the ipod os and roxbox? 06.10.53 Quit Presence (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit qweru (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit kclaf (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit w0rd54 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit freqmod_nx (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit ErLo (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit tchan (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit roxfan (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit EspeonEefi (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit jmspeex (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit HowdyDoody (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.10.53 Quit ze (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.11.02 Join w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@66.252.10.185) 06.11.04 *** Server message 505: 'logbot_ :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 06.15.06 # jturek: I'm sure that's covered in the manual. 06.15.41 NJoin freqmod_nx [0] (i=freqmod@dhcp208-90.ed.ntnu.no) 06.17.38 NJoin ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 06.17.42 # but basically turn off your ipod, then turn it on again and immediately put the hold switch on. 06.17.52 Quit safetydan ("Leaving.") 06.20.56 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.21.53 # thanks guys 06.21.57 # great work by the way! 06.26.32 NJoin EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FIVE-FIFTEEN.MIT.EDU) 06.26.33 NJoin ErLo [0] (n=chatzill@207.81.67.190) 06.26.33 NJoin kclaf [0] (i=kclaf@85.95.211.245) 06.26.33 NJoin tchan [0] (n=tchan@c-24-13-84-219.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 06.26.33 NJoin qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 06.26.33 NJoin roxfan [0] (n=dunno@171.222-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 06.26.33 NJoin jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 06.26.33 NJoin Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 06.26.54 Join jmspeex_ [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 06.27.20 Quit ErLo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.27.22 Quit kclaf (Connection timed out) 06.27.53 Quit roxfan (Connection timed out) 06.28.44 Quit jmspeex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.28.47 Quit qweru (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.29.50 Quit Galois (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.29.59 Join ErLo [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 06.32.41 # anyone have an idea how to position the selected item more smartly in the screen than currently (specifically when the selected item changes) 06.33.13 Quit tchan (Connection timed out) 06.33.15 # * JdGordon loves it when the light bulb goes on just as I hit enter :D 06.36.03 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 06.36.50 # ... probably going to change the code back to how it was a fw months ago before my last fiddling.... 06.43.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.52.58 Quit ErLo (Remote closed the connection) 06.58.16 Quit midgey () 07.04.00 Join ctaylorr_ [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 07.05.15 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@155.57-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 07.15.29 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 07.15.29 Quit XavierGr (Connection timed out) 07.16.35 Quit roxfan[zzz] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.21.32 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 07.27.05 Quit lemur ("leaving") 07.49.02 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 07.49.34 Join ErLo [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 07.53.28 Part ErLo 07.54.16 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Administ@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 07.54.35 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 07.57.36 Part bughunter2 07.59.15 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-37-135.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 07.59.28 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 08.00.33 Quit Darksaboteur ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 08.15.04 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 08.15.36 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host169-98-static.34-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 08.24.58 Join rayj [0] (n=whatyoul@c-67-173-140-250.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 08.26.05 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.35.54 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 08.35.59 # anybody awake 08.36.41 Quit z35 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.36.58 # some of us.... 08.37.31 # hopefully you can help 08.37.43 # i got me a sansa e280 08.37.53 # installed rockbox 08.38.28 # now when i plug it in it reboots & says cant find OF.bin 08.38.39 # then turns off 08.39.18 # unfortunately I know nothing about the sansa models we run on 08.39.28 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B141FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.39.35 # hm ok 08.40.01 # hang around - someone will turn up that does 08.40.02 # thanks anyway 08.40.08 # or post in the forums 08.40.12 # rayj: So what happens? I might be tired, but it didn't quite make sense to me. 08.40.13 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-98-11.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 08.40.19 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.40.48 # Does it boot into Rockbox fine though? 08.41.04 # yes it boots rockbox 08.41.19 # but how do i get files onto device 08.41.25 # How about dual-booting? I don't know which key to hold down, but it's in the manual... 08.41.32 # when i plug it in it reboots 08.41.53 # Have you tried plugging in the USB when it's turned off? What happens then? 08.41.55 # I thought you had to turn them off, *then* plug them in to USB ? 08.41.57 # & says cant find /system/OF.bin 08.43.14 # So, that didn't answer my question. Have you tried it when it was off? 08.43.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.43.37 # ok from off state powers up it displays sansa then rockbox 08.44.01 # where it ends with cant load /System/OF.bin 08.44.21 # rayj, you need to recovery the sansa firmware then add the OF.bin file then put the rockbox bootloader back one 08.45.15 # advcomp2019, is there a link you can shoot at me 08.46.19 # is this it 08.46.22 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10766.msg82440 08.47.28 # rayj, no.. the recovery mode on this page.. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick 08.48.41 Quit n17ikh|Lappy (Connection timed out) 08.49.02 # rayj: as a matter of course, never follow instructions in a random forum post. 08.49.39 # :-d thanks 08.56.56 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.57.12 Join iamben_ [0] (n=ben@ppp-70-248-222-15.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) 08.57.22 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 08.57.24 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 08.58.33 Quit iamben (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.00.24 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 09.01.43 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 09.01.56 # back in business thank you all 09.04.42 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.05.25 # I fail to connect to freenode on port 8000 - anybody know what's up? 09.05.41 # didn't even know they offered IRC on that port 09.06.05 # it worked until yesterday - nice way to pass our firewall :) 09.06.06 # they offer it on MANY ports 09.06.08 Join petur2 [0] (n=petur@ip-212-239-214-166.dsl-static.scarlet.be) 09.06.11 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 09.06.13 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@ip-212-239-214-166.dsl-static.scarlet.be) 09.06.18 # 6667, 6668, 6669, 8000, 8001, etc 09.06.26 # aha now it's working 09.06.48 # puter, there was a system wide notice earlier 09.07.07 # that was a server...not a port though 09.07.49 # I use the address of the rotation server, not a specific one. but anyway, it seems to work again 09.12.06 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964BED.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.13.44 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit) 09.14.09 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 09.14.32 Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) 09.15.01 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 09.15.59 # Hi LinusN! 09.16.15 # Have you red my considerations about the H300 boot-loader? 09.20.49 # what considerations? 09.21.51 Quit Galois ("Disconnecting") 09.22.36 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 09.24.09 # LinusN: oh.. nothing important.. .I can explain this now - it's very brief so I'll not make you lose time. 09.25.02 # shoot 09.25.22 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 09.25.59 # LinusN: the H3xx boot-loader is not acting as described on the manual, so it may be fixed. The manual says the boot-loader will boot the OF if .rockbox is missing. The boot-loader, if .rockbox misses, actually will not boot the player, telling you no fw has benn found. Pressin play+rec will boot successfully the OF, aniway. 09.26.08 # and yes: I'm using the svn boot-loader 09.27.59 # does it say "No firmware found on disk"? 09.28.04 Join sdcarter [0] (n=scarter@204.63.207.17) 09.28.12 # I think it should be not so difficult to fix the problem, but I don't have a BDM interface ... so I will not be able to recover my player. (so told me amiconn) 09.28.20 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 09.28.27 # Mm... 09.28.32 # does it say "No firmware found on disk"? 09.28.58 # I'll report you the message later - now I'm in the clas-room... 09.29.11 # but it seems tat message 09.29.28 # then it is a bug in detect_original_firmware() 09.30.01 # ... 09.30.16 # I don't know what to say regarding this - pressing play+rec will boot the OF correctly 09.30.27 # so? 09.31.31 # what does "so" mean in this context? 09.32.02 # it means that play+rec is not the same thing 09.32.24 # LinusN: I saw on http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.0.html that somebody swapped the HDD in his h120 with a CF card, but his initial attempt failed, with another card it worked. Any ideas on why? Does CF speed matter (timing constraints) and are those in the controller or the firmware? 09.32.32 # by looking at the code, it looks like detect_original_firmware() works like it should 09.33.38 # petur: timing might very well be the problem (which can be changed by software), but also the device reset 09.33.54 # LinusN: aniway the problem is simple to reproduce. G on the directory browser, remove .rockbox, then shutdown the player and thenup again... 09.33.55 # CF cards can be sensitive to device reset 09.34.00 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.34.06 Join lister [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ee3f6734170fb27) 09.34.30 # I have a h320 with broken drive here - I'm tempted to install a CF in it :) 09.35.00 # GodEater: hello. In one of your posts on the forums you said that RB on iRiver never crashes. Waht build do you use? Pre or post MOB? 09.35.07 # mrkiko: there is another issue here: the original firmware checks the ON button when it starts, so it may very well be that the bootloader restarts the original firmware, but it turns off immediately because the ON button isn't pressed 09.35.38 # petur: try to remove the ata reset code 09.36.08 # LinusN: if I get the adapter and have issues, I'll try :) 09.36.16 # goddie 09.36.20 # goodie 09.38.56 # So I should try the next time keeping "play" pressed even when the message appears ... 09.39.19 # rockbox never crashes on iRiver? ... :) 09.41.24 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 09.44.26 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.44.37 # mrkiko: yes, try that 09.53.12 # lister: I think it's pre-MoB - I've not updated it in a while 09.53.18 # don't have it here with me to check though 09.53.22 # it mainly sits in my car 09.53.28 # mrkiko: actually, RB never crashes on my irivier as well. But I use a quite old build. 09.53.53 # GodEater: ah, you are here with the same thoughts! :-) 09.54.49 # mrkiko: just don't use some plugins! :-) 09.55.00 # same thoughts ? 09.55.13 # GodEater: same build 09.55.22 # GodEater: i.e. pre MOB 09.55.39 # I don't expect post-MoB to be any worse though 09.55.44 # I just haven't got round to upgrading 09.56.32 # http://godeater.cream.org/usb_pole_dancer.avi <-- my secret santa gift from my colleagues. Bless 'em. 09.57.09 # btw: has the issue with "playback got confused at the end of the track" been resolved with MOB? I.e. if you jump to the start of the song while in the last two seconds of the song? 09.57.26 # i don't think it is completely solved 09.59.28 # LinusN: is it a general playback engine flaw? I.e. how the playback engine interacts with codecs? 09.59.39 # lister: kind of 10.00.11 # the playback buffering engine switches to the next track before the codec has played the last data from the current one 10.00.53 # so when you jump to the start, there is some confusion regarding which track it is playing 10.01.43 # LinusN: but I've seen (or believe so) that some extra state vars were added for separately tracking the pcm playback and codec position. Am I mistaken? 10.02.39 # just because the variables are there, doesn't mean we're using them right yet ;) 10.02.56 # GodEater: good point! :-) 10.03.03 # GodEater_: was that you in that movie? 10.03.09 # markun: nope 10.03.15 # that was my "secret" santa :) 10.05.08 # lister: there was an attempt to fix this issue, but i believe that there still is a problem 10.06.21 # LinusN: so the playback engine still waits for an overhaul? 10.06.34 # not an overhaul, but a fix 10.08.55 # I thought the plan was to completely re-write the playback engine at some point ? 10.08.58 # There were some talks about playback again getting too tricky (after it has been simplified some time ago) 10.13.51 # yes, that happens over and over 10.13.55 Quit sdcarter ("See Ya!") 10.14.15 # the problem is that we have so many requirements that create special cases 10.14.35 # like crossfade, for instance 10.15.24 # crossfade is an excellent example when it comes to track change; when has it changed track? 10.15.46 # when it starts to fade, in the middle of the fade, or when the previous track has faded out? 10.15.56 # those things make the playback complicated 10.24.44 Join Cirque [0] (n=bah@203-100-223-110.jetbuster.co.nz) 10.29.04 # LinusN: yes, those are the questions! About fade: I'd say the track has changed when the "weight" of the new track is higher than the weight of the old track. But I could also live with "when the old track has faded out". Since I actually never use crossfade :-) 10.29.45 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy15.netz.sbs.de) 10.30.02 # that is only one example of how complicated it can get 10.30.27 # the next is the buffering requirements; we want as little disk access as possible 10.31.01 # but we still want to buffer huge amounts to reduce lag when skipping etc 10.31.15 # and not load the same track twice 10.31.18 # etc etc 10.31.40 # and then we want to mix that with voice playback 10.33.14 # and low latency dsp effects, like eq and crossfeed 10.33.44 # and then comes the additional complexity of handling multiple codecs and metadata 10.33.48 # Yes, some things are just complicated. I wouldn't say the code is too complicated for a rather simple thing since the thing itself is rather tricky 10.33.57 # exactly 10.34.41 # the problem is that many of the special cases we have really shouldn't be special 10.35.02 # Hi everybody. I just bought a docking port for my ipod with speakers etc, and plan on using it as my desktop clock also. Going into plugins > applications > clock every time I change song/redock is very hastly, so is there a way I can either put a link to the clock function on the opening page (where database etc is) or make it appear by default/on a timer somehow? 10.35.03 # Has an attempt been made to draw it all as a state machine? What would be the states? And what would be the state variables (they might vary for different states)? 10.35.20 # lister: not sure if lostlogic did that once 10.36.06 # LinusN: e.g. "normal playback", "playback with crossfade", "playback with voice" etc. There will be many of course 10.36.08 # Cirque: not without building your own version of rockbox 10.36.17 # Oh, alright. Thanks =) 10.36.51 # But then we could have a graph an thus an tool to visually analyse behaviour and (possibly) problems 10.37.02 # lister: yes 10.37.22 # we should start with listing all the requirements 10.37.50 # And then listing all possible combinations 10.38.11 # and events. And state transitions triggered by them 10.38.48 Join Simon_c [0] (i=scrute@nat/novell/x-7a685937d513aa68) 10.39.31 # lister: oooh, now you make it sound a lot like "work"....yuck! :-) 10.40.22 # LinusN: oh, no, no! Sorry for that! :-) 10.40.55 # :-) 10.41.25 Quit Cirque () 10.41.30 # * LinusN wanders off to exercise 10.43.03 Part lister 10.43.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.52.35 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3051.gwdg.de) 10.56.34 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpna233.ugent.be) 10.59.34 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.01.13 Join pepie34 [0] (n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-86-146.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.01.58 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 11.03.49 Nick jmspeex_ is now known as jmspeex (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 11.10.48 Nick j0tt is now known as jott (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 11.17.24 # does rockbox support flac encapsulated in Ogg? 11.21.40 # I don't believe so 11.21.42 # I think we only support vorbis in ogg 11.22.34 # well vorbis and speex 11.23.12 # Hi, Quick question on rockbox. Does it support bookmarking audio files at all ? What I want to do is quit playing an audio file, and the next time I go back into it, (even if I've played other files between then and now) I want it to resume where it left off. 11.24.09 # Simon_c, yes. This is detailed in the manual. 11.24.14 # I didn't even think we supported speex in ogg - news to me! 11.24.30 # safetydan: Thanks. I'll try to look harder next time. 11.24.34 Join magicthree [0] (n=Banana@87.106.78.187) 11.24.39 # hello 11.24.47 # GodEater, speex only comes in ogg files except for our wacky talk clip format format 11.24.53 # oh, and rtp but that doesn't count 11.24.58 # i was wondering, does rockbox have an address book plugin? 11.25.09 # magicthree, no 11.25.20 # ah, shame 11.25.32 # feel free to write and submit one though :) 11.25.32 # magicthree: write one! 11.26.19 # sure, how hard could it be 11.27.23 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb153.ugent.be) 11.27.42 # no really, how hard could it be? 11.27.58 # i have no idea how to write plugins for rockbox 11.28.06 # luckily we have a wiki with details 11.28.30 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins 11.29.00 # Does anyone have any idea of the cheapest currently available hardware that will support rockbox ? 11.30.08 # GodEater_: thanks 11.30.57 # Gigabeat F is available on ebay for around $90 11.36.35 Quit pepie34 ("Ex-Chat") 11.38.33 # Simon_c: what kind of player are you looking for? 11.39.16 # markun: A cheep one, available in the UK. I mainly want it for listening to podcasts, which was why I was asking about bookmarking. 11.39.30 # flash, hdd? 11.39.50 # markun: flash. 11.39.51 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3038.gwdg.de) 11.40.00 # ah - forget the Gigabeat then 11.40.04 # although it is the cheapest 11.40.05 # markun: I should have said, cheep and small. 11.40.17 # I think I paid £76 in all for mine, including shipping from the USA 11.40.25 # sandisk e200 v1 maybe? 11.40.40 # sandisk sansa ... 11.41.27 # Well, I recently got an ipod nano 3g, but the other half seems to think she should have it, so I'm trying to find something else cheep to replace it for the main thing I use it for which is podcasts. Cheep would be < £50 11.41.37 # Simon_c: might be useful: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide 11.42.13 # looks like the c200 is the cheapest option 11.42.31 # but version 2 of those players is not yet supported by rockbox 11.42.33 # the c200 is probably even cheaper (and smaller) than the e200, just pay attention to not get a "v2" 11.42.44 # Ahh, that's the link I want. 11.44.56 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.46.15 # Ahh, trying to find a supplier who can tell me if it's a v2 will be tricky.... 11.46.28 # Are there plans to support v2 in future ? 11.49.09 # only if someone decides to do the work 11.49.17 # no port is ever planned 11.49.35 # GodEater_ OK. I understand. thanks. 11.50.06 # porting requires person with coding skills, hardware, time, and motivation all at the same time :-) 12.00.29 # does anyone know if it's only the C200 that has the v2 versions around that don't work ? Do all e200 series ones work (obviously, just to the best of anyone's knowledge :-) ) 12.01.45 # there are also e200v2s 12.01.55 # pixelma: Thanks :-( 12.03.27 Join Gnu47_ [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 12.05.23 Join SkinInd95 [0] (n=travis@host-69-144-93-208.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net) 12.06.20 Quit SkinInd95 (Client Quit) 12.06.22 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955EB23.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.06.33 # Simon_c: here you can check for progress on the various v2 players: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=16.0 12.07.08 # markun: Thanks. 12.08.57 # dang it, where's my updated delta table? 12.10.29 # it's always a bit behind the build table 12.10.57 # i.e. it's updated now :) 12.11.45 # good lord! That saved 1222 bytes on ipod color? 12.12.18 # well, if you compare to petur's commit of yesterday... 12.13.04 # ah, it seems something weird is going on with deltas 12.13.10 # no idea why it used that many bytes for my commit, as if something that needs a certain boundary got shifted around and left a gap 12.13.21 # the delta is in RAM usage only 12.13.22 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet07.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.13.30 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 12.13.49 # see the +2048/-2048 for ram 12.13.54 # yes, I believe this effect is there since the new USB stack or something 12.14.10 # ah yes, that has some aligned structs 12.18.02 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.21.14 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 12.21.56 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.23.37 Quit mrkiko (Remote closed the connection) 12.25.43 # I'm just reading the logs about the phone conversation with Real - am I right in thinking that he was basically saying "You can't use our AAC codec due to the license but we would like you to implement RealAudio/Video and Rhapsody DRM without giving you the source code" ? 12.30.00 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6031.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.30.28 # that's how it sounded to me 12.30.31 Quit Gnu47__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.32.14 # They asked us to RE their DRM? 12.32.49 # Maybe they would like to help port the ffmpeg Real codecs to Rockbox ;) 12.33.36 Quit safetydan ("Leaving") 12.33.51 Nick Gnu47_ is now known as Gnu47 (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 12.34.19 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 12.38.24 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 12.38.37 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955EB23.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.43.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.51.32 # * GodEater_ reads the log too 12.51.47 # I agree with amiconn on this - I wouldn't like to see Rockbox supporting any sort of DRM. 12.52.54 # markun: I think they'd like us to add support for binary blobs 12.53.21 # it's a pity that they can't GPL the AAC decoder for silly patent reasons 12.53.48 # I don't understand that - Nero don't seem to have the same view... 12.54.31 # which view? 12.54.32 # why? they've GPL'd AAC code? 12.54.56 # Yes, Rockbox's AAC codec is written by Ahead/Nero 12.55.30 # ah. then maybe Llorean could mention that next time he speaks to real... 12.55.40 # but maybe they just hide behing the patent excuse 12.56.07 # I can't see why they would need to care about patents - it's the responsibility of the people using the code. 12.59.06 # linuxstb: I thought the nero acc code was written by Coding Technologies 13.01.17 # maybe not. I only find press releases about ahead licensing stuff from Coding Technologies 13.05.37 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.05.52 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 13.06.24 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 13.08.06 Quit Mathiasdm ("Ik ga weg") 13.10.09 # speaking of patents, I've been working on the pictureflow port with jott. Do you think there are potential issues regarding this? 13.10.55 Join stewball`ghost [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.106.172.101) 13.14.20 # Probably in the US... 13.15.35 # Nico_P: How are you planning on accessing the bmps? 13.18.01 # that's one of the main issues... currently we read them from a fixed dir and store them in the main buffer through the buffering API 13.18.16 # of course, we'd like to use the existing AA bitmaps 13.18.56 # Doesn't that take a long time to load? 13.20.28 Quit B4gder ("It is time to say moo") 13.20.38 # What about trying to incorporate them into the database, and create a single database file with all bmps in it (which obviously wouldn't be loaded to RAM) ? 13.20.54 # IIUC, Apple put album-art in their database. 13.21.15 # the bitmaps are loaded in background by a worker thread 13.21.40 # yeah I wanted to tie AA into the database, but I hadn't though of storing it as a single file 13.21.53 # I was thinking of storing the AA path for each album 13.22.42 # Don't you just need to store the type of filename match - "cover.bmp in same folder", "trackname.bmp", "album name.bmp" etc? 13.23.24 Join imulator [0] (n=imulator@xdsl-87-79-106-128.netcologne.de) 13.23.51 # I'm not sure... I doubt any kind of path info is stored with a DB album 13.24.03 # so you wouldn't know where to look 13.24.05 # It must store the track filenames. 13.24.46 # yeah, but we'd like to associate a pic with an album 13.24.52 # But Rockbox's album-art isn't based on albums - each track can potentially have its own art. 13.25.54 # yeah I know... I was thinking of trying to associate an AA to each album where possible 13.26.10 # it could also allow a nice album list in the database manus 13.26.53 # Wouldn't you want to browse all cover artwork, and then when you select an image, you play all tracks associated to that image? 13.27.50 # yes, that's pretty much what we'd want 13.28.16 # though it would also be nice to display a bit of metadata along with the art 13.28.21 # So yes, I think that would mean storing the bmp filename in the database. 13.28.49 # You made album-art too flexible ;) 13.30.35 # hehe :) 13.30.57 # I'd like to talk to Slasheri about that, but I never see him online 13.31.05 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@84.119.0.15) 13.32.56 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9F4.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.33.29 # maybe a recursive scan for cover.bmp files using dircache could work in the mean time 13.37.10 Join DarkStylist [0] (n=DarkStyl@c213-100-135-215.swipnet.se) 13.38.16 # quesdtion : on the sansa when im inside rockbox and connect to usb it wants some kinda driver , anyway to turn that off so i can browse my mp3 from rockbox? 13.39.42 # or must i charge/load usb on original firmware? 13.41.39 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c13cc.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 13.44.03 Part Simon_c 13.44.59 # DarkStylist: until the usb stack is complete, reboot into OF for USB 13.45.24 # DarkStylist: hold "select" when you connect to USB to stay in Rockbox 13.45.50 # but you won't be able to access the files from your computer then 13.45.54 # ah, to charge 13.47.51 # ah i see thats no biggie then :) 13.48.28 # i guess i'll dualboot btw i only use sansa firmware for browsing and charging the player :) 13.48.55 # original firmware playback is quite crappy i might add 13.50.30 # but browsing is better than in rockbox? 13.51.24 # yeah usb browsing 13.51.29 # u browse from pc 13.51.33 # ah, ok 13.51.51 # the rockbox file browser rules 13.52.10 # i dont have to go through each song 1 by 1 :) 13.52.50 Quit imulator () 13.54.17 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.56.50 Join |desowin| [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.03.14 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 14.03.20 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 14.04.04 # jhMikeS: what're you gonna do to libmpeg2? 14.05.36 # preglow: whatever I need to. the code formatting was just awful. some memory alloc stuff needs working on as well not to mention removing chroma decoding for grayscale. 14.06.42 # and if it pisses me off enough we'll just have our own decoder :) 14.25.22 Quit Clint (Remote closed the connection) 14.25.38 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 14.28.51 # jhMikeS: any speed changes after your last commit? 14.31.53 # markun: not much that I noticed if any. it was really intended to simplify it. 14.32.10 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.35.37 Join Clint [0] (n=Clint@thumb.scru.org) 14.37.02 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.43.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.47.26 Nick |desowin| is now known as desowin_ (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.47.26 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.47.26 Join HowdyDoody [0] (n=Administ@c-71-225-221-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 14.47.26 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.47.26 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.47.26 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B141FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.47.26 Quit Nico_P (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.47.26 Quit ender` (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit jott (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit w0rd54 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit brown (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit axionix (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit kubiix (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit gromit` (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit marcosource (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit GodEater (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit tedrock (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Quit krazykit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.47.26 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 14.47.26 # should probably blast all the "convert" stuff too 14.47.26 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.47.26 NJoin Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 14.47.26 NJoin ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 14.47.26 NJoin jott [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 14.47.26 NJoin w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@66.252.10.185) 14.47.26 NJoin brown [0] (i=presence@irev.net) 14.47.26 NJoin axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 14.47.26 NJoin kubiix [0] (n=Miranda@mos-81-27-201-28.karneval.cz) 14.47.26 NJoin gromit` [0] (i=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 14.47.26 NJoin marcosource [0] (i=marco@cakebox.net) 14.47.26 NJoin GodEater [0] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 14.47.26 NJoin tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-156-27.home1.cgocable.net) 14.47.26 NJoin krazykit [0] (n=kkit@light.sunsetab.denison.edu) 14.47.26 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet08.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 14.47.26 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 14.47.26 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 14.47.26 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.47.38 Join Doomed_ [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 14.47.42 Quit alienbiker99 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.48.23 Quit Prayer (Connection reset by peer) 14.48.37 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.48.38 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 14.49.15 Quit Ramla (Remote closed the connection) 14.49.18 Join Toki [0] (n=hsdbvlkb@gateimb.imb.lebedev.ru) 14.49.19 Join Ramla [0] (n=ramla@c03.keltti.jyu.fi) 14.51.51 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp126-47.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.55.24 # hmm 14.55.39 # voice can't handle numerals with fractions, no? 14.56.21 # It doesn't really handle much with numbers afaict 14.56.51 # crossfeed voice is off 14.57.02 # plus one hundred fifteen decibels 14.57.08 # that's the internal representation... 14.57.59 # * petur puts fingers in ears 14.58.19 # preglow: you made x-feed louder even? 14.58.20 # hrm 14.58.50 # jhMikeS: no, the internal representation is positive, for legacy reasons, namely saving one bit in the days of binary configs 14.59.13 # i'd love to change that around now, but that'd break user settings 14.59.26 # they'll adjust I think 14.59.30 # then again, it's not like we've released anything... 14.59.39 # jhMikeS: hmm, maybe i should give it a try 14.59.49 # jhMikeS: config values will suddenly be negatiev when they were positive :) 14.59.50 # just say how to convert the settings 15.00.10 # i might be able to kill a formatting function too 15.00.12 # nothing user visible? 15.00.13 # just share the eq one 15.00.30 # jhMikeS: well, it will be user visible depending on how the config reader copes 15.01.27 # funny, I added range checking when I did recording menus for JdGordon and I don't think that made it into SVN. :p 15.03.05 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Administ@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 15.04.35 # * jhMikeS sees an older mpegplayer commit commenting on accomodating slow disk access on the Sansa 15.13.58 # sansa has slow disk access? :/ 15.15.24 # well, that was then :) 15.18.46 # * jhMikeS seems to recall some bloody RGB conversion code in libmpeg2 somewhere but can't locate where it used to be :\ 15.19.08 Quit Siku (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.21.47 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 15.22.26 # could also be a mental image from another project that used it that was seen one time 15.24.10 Join tux_ [0] (n=tux@p57A0C2BA.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.24.28 Quit tux_ (Client Quit) 15.26.44 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 15.29.42 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 15.30.14 # jhMikeS: It's in convert/rgb.c in the original libmpeg2 source 15.33.47 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl) 15.36.55 # linuxstb: I knew I saw something somewhere :) 15.38.42 Join Crash91 [0] (n=evil91@41.232.212.187) 15.39.25 Part LinusN 15.41.10 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@f051100003.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.44.35 # jhMikeS: Are you close to committing your pending mpegplayer changes? 15.45.51 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 15.46.46 # getting closer. I want to pare the decoder down to a minimum needed. 15.47.29 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 15.47.54 # the slow thing here is 1) video players are complicated and not even light can escape that 2) ensuring each change is bug-free as you move along (and there's lots of those) 15.48.22 # Wouldn't it be better to commit changes incrementally? It seems you have a big patch pending... 15.48.50 # In featurecomparison in the wiki it says the sansa(OF) has no AA support...which is untrue 15.49.52 # would be better but not really workable since the basic layout is refactored 15.49.54 # what program opens .mod in rockbox? 15.50.16 # DarkStylist: what file type is that/ 15.50.44 # module 15.50.51 # oh 15.51.08 # i dont know if rockbox supports that format 15.51.19 # custom codec 15.51.42 # i need to load it with the program that loads mp3 15.52.12 # Crash91: Are you registered on the wiki? 15.52.31 # linuxstb: no, but can i register? 15.53.01 # okay, found link 15.53.01 # so what program in rockbox opens mp3 by default any way i could check that? 15.53.15 # DarkStylist: i doubt rockbox supports MODs 15.53.44 # how about if i try? 15.53.52 # may i have wiki write permissions? 15.53.55 # its a custom codec 15.54.22 # DarkStylist: well, i have no idea, how to open it, maybe try to rename it to .mp3? 15.54.30 # and see if rb will decode 15.54.46 # DarkStylist: take a look a viewers.config, i think this configures the binding of file endings with plugins.. 15.55.08 # thx 15.55.48 # DarkStylist: Iirc you asked for mod support a dozen times already 15.56.28 # ...and you were told that it's not supported in svn, but there is a patch 15.58.52 # how would i be able to get write permissions fo rthe wiki? 15.59.12 # Crash91: give us your wikiname 15.59.49 # ArchitTamarapu 16.00.21 # Crash91: and thats really your real name ? 16.00.39 # yes, 16.00.51 # why would i make it up? 16.00.52 # Crash91: done 16.01.00 # i read the rule about NinjaBoy... 16.01.05 # GodEater_:thanks! 16.01.23 # Crash91: it just sounds unfamiliar... where are you from ? 16.02.14 # India 16.02.22 # and well, yeah i even have a queer name there 16.02.31 # :-) 16.02.34 # :-) 16.02.48 # :-) < make it three 16.03.00 # :-) < joining in 16.03.13 # :-) < Just for the hell of it 16.03.18 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 16.03.42 # and now a friend sent me a customized codec for current sansa build 16.03.44 # (-: < just to be different 16.03.50 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-37-135.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.04.46 # DarkStylist: it's extremely unlikely that a single codec file will work with the build of Rockbox you have on your sansa at the moment. You will *need* to get an entirely customised build. 16.05.51 # haha: http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome 16.06.14 # wow ...people actually thumb it up... 16.06.38 Join TheCompWiz [0] (n=tmealey@wsip-68-109-200-102.mc.at.cox.net) 16.07.13 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-98-11.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 16.07.40 # maybe he's running an older build 16.07.46 # anyone thought about implementing voice-activation on some of the devices that have mics? 16.07.53 # DarkStylist: that is entirely irrelevant 16.08.24 # TheCompWiz: yes http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5188 16.08.33 # ah. spiffy ;) 16.09.02 # "20 April 2006" and not a single comment on it ;-) 16.09.08 # LOL 16.09.26 # typically... how much processing power is in these devices? 16.09.34 # (I havn't done a lot of research on 'em yet) 16.09.36 # well, that varies 16.09.51 # AFAIK, the gigabeat tops it with 300MHz 16.09.59 # my sansa is 80MHz 16.10.08 # and i dont really know about the rest 16.10.11 # but the Gigabeat has no mic 16.10.23 # markun: never, knew that, 16.10.27 # on a sansa... while in use... how much cpu is consumed? 16.10.43 # TheCompWiz: most of it 16.10.46 # TheCompWiz: depends on what you are using it for 16.10.47 # although it depends on the codec 16.10.51 # LOL 16.11.16 # I was thinkin' typical mp3... (no video) 16.11.36 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 16.11.37 # ^-- What GodEater_ said 16.11.54 # figures. 16.12.16 # so... guess a voice-analysis type setup... is pretty much out of the question... 16.12.59 # you wouldn't do voice analysis anyway 16.13.14 # you do it how mobile phones do - which is a comparison to a pre-recorded sample 16.13.19 # much less work 16.13.44 Quit n17ikh (Connection timed out) 16.13.52 # doesn't really appeal to me though 16.14.03 # why is rockbox so locked to codecs ? 16.14.12 # I don't really want people staring at me while I'm on the bus as I shout "play" into my mp3 player 16.14.20 # DarkStylist: what on earth do you mean ? 16.14.57 # well on older builds dropping codec would work but not on newer 16.15.10 # I still have no clue what you mean 16.15.19 # what does "dropping codec" mean ? 16.15.55 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.16.06 # means dropping a codec in the codec dir 16.16.20 # DarkStylist: For efficiency reasons, part of a codec is in core Rockbox - the ".codec" file is just part of it. 16.16.20 # what makes you think it would work on an older build ? 16.18.49 # i corrected FeatureComparison to show AA on the sansa 16.21.24 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 16.22.22 Join hanseatic [0] (n=ddh@c209025.adsl.hansenet.de) 16.22.31 # hi 16.22.42 # i have a sansa e280 here 16.23.03 # how can i see wether it's version ! or 2? 16.23.24 # jhMikeS: i'm trying out that other noise shaping now 16.23.43 # hanseatic: turn it around and check lower right corner, OF version 16.23.52 # hanseatic: what is the original firmware's version number? 16.23.55 # hanseatic: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200v2 16.24.45 # made in china 16.24.48 # model e280 16.24.52 # nothing bout v2 16.24.54 # mine too 16.25.06 # ok load up the OF 16.25.21 # settings>info , click until FW version shows 16.26.14 # thnx 16.26.22 # so it is not a v2 16.26.24 # good 16.26.28 # hanseatic: what version is it? 16.27.29 # model: E280 16.27.57 # if the version is something 3.xx then it's v2 16.28.09 # hanseatic: i mean firmware 16.28.46 # it is still sealed 16.29.01 # if anyone uses windows with their e200, unzip this onto it :) enjoy the nice icon 16.29.03 # http://files-upload.com/files/664921/e200.zip 16.29.03 # covered in some plasic foil 16.29.15 # oh that, yeah well remove it 16.29.25 # you can still return it after checking it out 16.29.33 # k 16.29.42 # Don't v2s have "audible support" written on the packaging? 16.29.57 # yea, they do have it 16.30.25 Join Paule__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3038.gwdg.de) 16.31.08 # jhMikeS: might say it's an improvement, but it depends how much you like hf noise 16.31.11 # jhMikeS: got some samples if you want 16.32.39 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A758C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.33.00 # 01.02.18e 16.33.07 # linuxstb: there were reports that some refurbished players had the wrong back, labelling that it would be a v2. If it's one in the original package I think it will be indicator enough. 16.33.26 # hanseatic: To recognize a v2 of these devices, carefully look for the “v2? text on the backside or for “audible.com support” on the box. 16.33.33 # is there a way to tell, if it has a radio tuner? 16.33.34 # jhMikeS: www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/dither/, the unmarked ones are 8 bit, the other ones are 4 bit. as you can hear, the lipshitz one clips a bit in the 4 bit case 16.33.45 # ok that check out, you have the lastest firmware and its a v1 16.33.47 # i bought it in europe 16.34.00 # thats why the e is presenrt 16.34.25 # preglow: you're working on that now? 16.34.32 Quit Arathis (Nick collision from services.) 16.34.38 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A758C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.34.50 # jhMikeS: not working on it, just testing it out 16.34.55 # preglow: afa hf noise, depends. too high and it gets that piercing quality 16.35.09 # * jhMikeS will listen to the examples 16.35.14 # jhMikeS: and this is quite high, but 8 bits and 4 bits are hardly realistic... 16.35.45 # you're dithering to 8 and 4 bits...lol 16.36.13 # sure 16.36.19 # @crash k.. 16.36.35 # i haven't got a chance in hell to hear the difference at 16 bits, and i like to hear a pronounced effect 16.36.40 # I don't think I've ever knowingly listened to 4-bit audio depth before 16.37.12 # is there a way finding out about radio tuner hardware in it, without voiding the warranty? 16.37.50 # hanaseatic: yes, there wil;be a radio option in the menu, and if it plays, it has the hardware 16.38.52 # jhMikeS: i do that all the time :) 16.39.09 # jhMikeS: you get quite nice dynamic range at lower freqs qith this noise shaper, even at 4 bits 16.39.17 # preglow: I have your earilier 8-bit demo and I can say the FIR filter is much, much better sounding 16.39.32 # yeah, i agree completely 16.39.45 # and at lower bit depths, it'll be even better 16.39.57 # so i think i'll try to hack in support for this bugger 16.40.08 # Crash1: it doesn's say anything about radio in the main menu, are you shure on that? 16.40.09 # the audibility of the noise in the current one is might higher for the same depth 16.40.13 # perhaps add an extra option to dithering: Off, normal, high-quality 16.40.22 # then again, that'd add an extra codepath... 16.40.26 # s/might/much 16.40.32 # why? 16.40.50 # hanaseatic: yes im sure, IIRC the RIAA banned the FM in europe 16.40.54 # you add another function to the pointer table for outputs 16.41.04 # jhMikeS: well, another function, then 16.41.11 # Crash: even on the european firmware? the guy i bought it from @ ebay offered a radio "feature" for 10euro extra 16.41.15 # jhMikeS: to not impact performance we'd have to duplicate the rest of the dithering code 16.41.24 # don't think he has different models 16.41.31 # hanseatic: -.- obviously that was a scam 16.41.58 # Crash91, hanseatic: currently there are models with and without radio available 16.41.59 # Crash91: some sansas only have FM disabled in software iirc 16.42.01 # hanseatic: you wasted 10 euro, as you can either have it with radio or without, european onse dont have it 16.42.48 # oh didnt realise that pixelma 16.43.01 # i obviously did not spend the 10 € since i will be able to switch this feature on myself, if the hardware supports it 16.43.29 # as markun said, you'll find out if you install rockbox (or install an american version of the original firmware - I know of at least 2 cases for the c200) 16.43.33 # hanseatic: well, you can downgrade the firmware to see if there is any 16.43.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.43.37 # only thing is, how to tell, if the hardware does it? 16.43.52 # without voiding warranty ;) 16.43.53 # hanseatic: what pixelma says 16.44.18 # just remove rockbox if you ever send it in for repair 16.44.31 # and don't tell them you voided the warranty :) 16.44.48 # hanseatic: it would be easier if you use an american version.. 16.44.52 # okay :) 16.44.54 # quicker as well 16.45.32 # here: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html 16.45.40 # preglow: didn't look like much needed duplication, the differences outweight the similarities I think. 16.46.07 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.46.36 # hanseatic: simply drop the file onto your e200 and it will install it when you turn on, to upgrade, use sansa updater from the sandisk website 16.48.18 # i like this...looks cool :) http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YeuYU6f1L._AA160_.gif 16.48.20 # preglow: ideally I want ASM optimized mono/stereo functions 16.48.43 # ideally i'd want that too, but gej... 16.48.48 # geh 16.49.03 # re, sry afaik i just need to install the american FW 16.49.05 # nah, no geh :) 16.49.15 # duplicated code all over 16.49.22 # and I thought hanseatic was here because he wanted to install Rockbox anyways :) 16.49.28 # one for mono, one for stereo, one for each dithering case 16.49.33 # but i'll probably go for rockbox immediately 16.49.41 # preglow: I have an idea though 16.49.58 # pixelma: oh yeah...god point :P forgot this was rockbox, 16.49.59 # jhMikeS: you think we can use the same noise for both channels, though? 16.50.08 # good* 16.50.36 # preglow: you can wrap an inline function in a non-inlined function passing some params as constant, and it will be pruned 16.51.13 # preglow: you mean the same random output? hmm 16.51.25 # * Crash91 goes off to update his BL 16.52.06 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 16.52.07 # jhMikeS: aye 16.52.12 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 16.52.24 # jhMikeS: basically just looking for things that'd justify writing a separate stereo version 16.53.01 # preglow: like I said, wrap an inline that takes a channel count parameter as a constant 16.53.21 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965494.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.54.02 # it work like a charm...did it in thread.c to avoid just this sort of duplicating of effort 16.54.42 # yeah, but in asm... 16.55.05 # ASM has macros, no? 16.55.13 # indeed 16.55.15 # true enough 17.00.47 Join DM|_ [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 17.00.49 Quit DM|_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.12.43 # * Crash91 goes off to see whether he can make a good enough theme for the theme contest.. 17.13.54 # does anyone think there is anything that should go in there? 17.16.44 # * jhMikeS wonders if any techniques exist for improving the sound of low-depth input 17.16.54 Quit DM| (Connection timed out) 17.20.05 Quit desowin_ ("use linux") 17.22.43 Join Rincewind [0] (i=JqoG9sFG@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 17.24.01 # jhMikeS: where do you see low depth input? 17.25.21 # preglow: if you have say, an 8-bit wav file and wish to help it sound a bit better...sort of an "anti-quantizer" thing. I'm thinking dither could still be used but is a different manner. 17.26.30 # come to think of it, I'm going to just do something in an audio editor real quick 17.26.43 Join Traveler8 [0] (n=traveler@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 17.27.14 # can others upload plugins to rockbox's source? 17.28.21 Quit petur ("-=weekend=-") 17.31.28 Quit Crash91 ("Bye Bye!") 17.31.49 # you submit it to the tracker and hope that someone with commit access takes care of it 17.31.54 # jhMikeS: i think there's little to be done about that 17.32.50 # alright, nothing fancy but have a real basic rts in the making, kinda like starcraft or age of empires 17.33.07 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0302D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.34.46 # still need to add enemy ai, but I'd like to see what others can do with it 17.36.19 # jhMikeS: the information thrown away from the quantizer is lost, with no prior knowledge about what produced the sound. all you can do is shape the noise that is there, and you don't really know where that noise is 17.36.39 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.39.15 # preglow: and yet it's visually striking when looking at it expanded 17.39.22 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.43.01 Quit Soap (Remote closed the connection) 17.44.20 # Traveler8: If you want your plugin to be committed to SVN and included in the official builds, you need to make sure it works on as many different devices as possible - preferably all that Rockbox supports. You should also read the CONTRIBUTING guidelines - in the docs/ directory in the Rockbox source. 17.45.54 # Traveler8: also put a patch on the tracker, then others can help, especially for porting to other devices... 17.48.40 # okay, should work on all platforms that rockbox's pong was made for 17.51.58 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.55.05 # i have installed rockbox, and bootloader on the E280. apparently successful, but the original FW keeps booting? 17.56.30 # it boots with the message "updating database" 17.58.23 # i used the rockbox utility on ubuntu gutsy 17.58.29 # any ideas 17.58.42 # mountpoint was correct, device too 17.59.54 # Do you still have the USB cable plugged in? 18.00.19 # when i unplug it after install it reboots 18.00.41 # Then it sounds like the bootloader install didn't work. 18.00.57 # i ve also tried sansapatcher 18.01.17 # the e200 is connected, but nut mounted 18.01.25 # And sansapatcher worked? 18.01.25 # usb mode is msc 18.01.26 # and it also starts the original firmware if you just turn it on? 18.01.39 # sansapatcher ended with success 18.01.45 # i'll redo it 18.02.14 # do i need to have root privs? 18.02.36 # yes, run it with sudo 18.03.19 # then unplug? 18.03.34 # i used rockbox utility in userspace 18.03.44 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") 18.04.17 # hanseatic, it might prompt you to hit "i" to install, but after sansapatcher sends you back to the prompt, it should be safe to remove 18.04.17 # yeah, rockbox boots now 18.05.45 # still the menu i see does not look like a "theme" 18.06.02 Quit mokkurkalve ("leaving") 18.08.27 Join odb|fidel_ [0] (i=fidel@vm.vido.info) 18.08.49 # hello. any chance that there will be a rockbox release for the ipod classic ? 18.09.50 Join Suleeto [0] (n=jagrei@71.177.21.78) 18.10.15 # Good morning (or evening if you're on the other side of the world from me) 18.10.17 # odb|fidel_: No-one is working on it... 18.10.26 # actually the ipod is only interesting for me with rockbox hehe 18.10.33 # Suleeto: Good afternoon. ;) 18.10.46 # linuxstb: missing hardware ? 18.10.50 # Suleeto: good evening :) 18.11.01 # or just ouf of interest for the project-devs in general 18.11.17 # odb|fidel_: Brand new (undocumented) hardware and strongly encrypted firmware preventing third-party code being run. 18.11.24 # I'm requesting write access to the wiki... it seems I've stirred the pot a bit at ABi and the result is a chunk of information on the Sansa Express. 18.11.43 # I want to set up a formal page there and contribute the bare essential data as described in the wiki guidelines 18.12.02 # I'm working on obtaining the scans of the PCB next 18.12.12 # linuxstb: ok thank you very much for the quick response 18.12.31 # Suleeto: you're Jason Arro? 18.12.37 # Yes. 18.12.48 # * Suleeto grins 18.13.21 # not much of an engineer, but i'm a reasonably skilled facilitator ;) 18.14.00 # you should have write access now 18.14.28 # thank you :D 18.17.22 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 18.18.48 # now I just have to figure out how to update the thing lol. 18.18.59 # (without boggling it up) 18.19.10 # * Suleeto is thankfully cautious 18.19.45 # Suleeto, there is a preview button for whatever you post, and there should be some information on twiki wiki syntax 18.20.13 # Ies the syntax is what I'm looking for 18.20.16 # yes* 18.21.16 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@249-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 18.23.58 Quit Traveler8 ("Java user signed off") 18.24.00 Quit ctaylorr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.25.25 Join Crash91 [0] (n=evil91@41.232.212.187) 18.26.02 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955F0E6.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.27.28 # byebye 18.27.30 Part odb|fidel_ 18.28.45 # ok, i'm going to swallow some pride here and ask for some guidance to point me in the right direction for starting a port page in the wiki 18.28.57 Nick Paule__ is now known as PaulJam (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3038.gwdg.de) 18.29.06 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 18.29.06 # I'd like to get the info up there as soon as possible to motivate others to send me more info. 18.29.07 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.29.08 # Suleeto: www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 18.29.20 # oh 18.29.24 # perfect, thanks :D 18.29.58 # oh no I have some info, I'm strickly talking about the wiki entry 18.30.02 # sice now I have write access 18.30.09 # yeah, that struck me ;-) 18.30.14 # lol ;) 18.30.22 # create one in the same manner as the existing ones I'd say 18.30.25 # (see? I'm doin! I'm doin! :P ) 18.30.45 # what target btw? 18.31.49 # Sansa Express, which has no page. That's the confusion I'm running into, I can't find the "ports" document that apparently contains the list of ports 18.31.53 # speakig of which, 18.32.12 # do you guys want it directly on Ports, or in OtherTargets? 18.32.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus is pretty much all ports 18.33.05 # there's no hierarchy really, just create a page with a suitable name 18.33.19 # bbl 18.33.39 # k thanks 18.33.41 Quit Siku (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.33.55 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.40.14 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-98-11.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 18.43.32 # Where on the TargetStatus wiki page would you guys prefer the Sansa Express new data? 18.43.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.43.52 # it's not exactly an active project, nor an inactive development.....? 18.44.25 # I'm not sure of the preference of the community about this 18.44.30 # "information gathering" or something. 18.44.47 # or "newly started port" 18.46.10 # Ok, I'm going use "Newly Started Ports" as a new section and put the Express there, thanks 18.48.09 Quit n17ikh|Lappy (Connection timed out) 18.49.41 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 18.49.47 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.53.52 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 18.57.26 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 18.58.05 # does rockbox switch off the charger current after the battery is charged? 18.58.43 Join desowin__ [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 18.58.45 # Crash91: on most devices charging is controlled by hardware 18.59.06 # ok, thats good 18.59.08 # sansa? 18.59.09 Quit desowin__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.59.15 # ok take a look and tell me what you think: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus 18.59.25 # (hint: the section is added after "new ports" 18.59.32 # good subheader :) 19.00.15 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 19.01.07 # So the Sansa Express page is going to be off of Main I take it 19.03.47 Quit z35_1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.05.52 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 19.11.13 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 19.19.29 # preglow: actually it seems possible to pull off 19.22.23 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 19.25.45 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54965583.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.27.05 # jhMikeS: how? 19.27.54 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m128.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 19.28.09 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 19.28.46 # ok I added the section there: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus 19.28.48 # preglow: I know I'm cheating a bit by using my own artificially generated profiles in the noise reduction but it is proves some reconstruction is possible. 19.28.54 # and the link to the other page I added, for the Express 19.29.39 # someone on ABi already broke apart an Express and took pictures, I'm trying to contact him to get him to scan the PCB for us 19.29.52 # then i can hunt down the components 19.31.58 # jhMikeS: how? 19.32.11 # brown noise 19.33.59 Quit stewball`ghost (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.36.12 # Suleeto, you could head over to #anythingbutipod and ask him 19.37.42 # preglow: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/anti_8-bit.flac <= 1st is untouched, 2nd just me messing around 19.38.25 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 19.38.31 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 19.38.43 Join Benjig [0] (i=519ee311@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1a8ada2e23c27bfc) 19.43.26 Quit Benjig (Client Quit) 19.43.57 # adv really what server is that hosted on? 19.44.43 Join JdGordon [0] (i=836b0048@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-832a9b83c0c1408a) 19.46.14 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.20 # Suleeto, freenode like rockbox.. sorry about being off topic a little 19.52.47 # no that's fine, it's of use. I am trying to hunt down the guy, whoever he is, anyways 19.55.57 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 20.00.59 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.243.244) 20.03.12 Join webguest60 [0] (i=188c7e5a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5d5bc2195fb8218b) 20.04.28 Quit webguest60 (Client Quit) 20.06.38 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtj8.cable.mindspring.com) 20.09.05 # is anyone else getting a build errors? 20.10.26 # WinXPSP2 with Cygwin error: 20.10.28 # recorder/recording.c:524: warning: 'fmt_gain' defined but not used 20.10.29 # make[1]: *** [/home/Administrator/rockbox/h1x0.build/apps/recorder/recording.o] 20.10.31 # Error 1 20.10.32 # make: *** [build] Error 2 20.10.55 # afk 20.11.02 # nope, builds fine here 20.11.23 # the warning shouldn't matter. what's with the error? 20.11.49 # a 'make clean' doesn't fix? 20.12.00 # nope 20.12.06 # neither does a reconfigure 20.13.05 # *actually that's only true for and advanced configure using rtc and sim 20.13.24 # I'm doing a reconfig + clean on a regular build now 20.15.54 # oh boy, now I get a massive error. All of it having to do with 'recording.c'. And that's my favorite file. (everytime it'stouched I update and test. 20.16.40 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5F4F.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.16.42 # but not if say, pcm_record.c is touched? :) 20.16.48 Quit Crash91 ("Bye Bye!") 20.17.06 # Haha, yeah anything that has to do with recording. Check out the error: http://pastebin.com/md1c84f4 20.17.25 # oh it's a botched patch 20.17.42 # I thought, because of the << 20.17.55 # sorry, wrong diagnosis 20.18.00 # Botch was a mathcore band. 20.18.08 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 20.18.28 # well, the compiler can throw tons of errors if some char is missing like a ";" or whatever 20.19.05 # What should I do? 20.19.26 # * jhMikeS goes to line 1481 and sees no << 20.19.48 # have any "<<<<<<<" stuff there? 20.20.05 # I see no << in the file at all 20.20.17 # * jhMikeS neither 20.20.26 # looks like conflict markers indeed 20.20.30 # that's the entire error 20.20.46 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 20.20.54 # svn revert apps/recorder/recording.c 20.23.16 # ack, I just found some ancient code that I put there, was commented but I guess the recent changes exposed soem of it. I'm an idiot sorry 20.23.26 # *it was commented out 20.23.49 # waiting for make... 20.24.02 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host202-206-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.28.08 # ok, I'm just getting reeeeaaaally tired of waiting through "CC codec_crt0.c". 20.28.52 Join alsaf [0] (i=516afe23@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-541fb3ccb4df3d01) 20.29.09 # is there a "no games" switch for make? 20.29.19 Quit alsaf (Client Quit) 20.29.20 # success! 20.29.34 # Thanks jhMikeS (again). 20.29.47 # well there's "make rocks" but that makes codecs too :\ 20.29.55 Join alsaf [0] (i=516afe23@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c9c8bde233146b3a) 20.30.32 # a chap over at abi has posted the results of fdisk on a sansa express 20.30.56 # It displayed the following: 20.31.08 # /dev/sda1 * 1 3619 998532+ 6 FAT16 20.32.27 # I've posted all the results on the sansa v2 forum, does that mean the firmware is stored on the 20MB hidden partition and be easier to access than the m200 where it doesn't display anything when doing fdisk? 20.35.31 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.39.43 Quit alsaf ("CGI:IRC") 20.39.46 Join alsaf [0] (i=516afe23@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-337edd91ac96eeb7) 20.39.53 Quit alsaf (Client Quit) 20.40.15 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 20.40.15 # hah alsaf 20.40.18 # I'm here' too :P 20.40.23 # and on #anythingbutipod 20.40.32 # guesswhat, the guy reassembled the express :( 20.42.28 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 20.43.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.44.13 # without taking pictures? 20.45.03 # he took pictures, but i dont think or know for sure if he took *scans* of the PCB 20.45.08 # which is what I am after 20.45.55 # he took it apart for an ABi article to evaluate the guts 20.46.19 # on a purely superficial level, not for what I want to do, which is pre-development on a port 20.52.45 Quit midgey () 20.52.48 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.236.147) 20.53.05 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 20.55.12 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 20.55.22 # jhMikeS: well, that's way better 20.55.27 # jhMikeS: exactly what do you do? 20.57.54 # preglow: create a brown noise profile (actually a bit darker than that). use that for the noise reduction profile. the settings aren't too important, just set it till it sounds right. after that, add some filtered white noise (filtered using recursive mix paste) to mask things a little. I probabaly overdid the level a bit. 20.58.38 # well, it does sound nice 20.58.45 # i just hope i don't find any audio where i'll need that process :> 20.59.38 # I just wanted to see if I could actually extract something decent from already quantized material. 21.01.17 Quit barrywardell () 21.05.57 # In the past I had plenty of crummy sounding audio clips I wanted to make decent to use as sound effects in movies or music or whatever. 21.06.30 # Never tried that one though 21.12.12 Quit midgey () 21.13.21 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 21.13.34 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.14.11 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 21.15.50 # so you've never sampled kraftwerk to put in a movie before? what kind of person are you :P 21.22.00 Quit Tuplanolla (Remote closed the connection) 21.22.57 # * jhMikeS is a disgrace to humanity :p 21.23.22 Join alsaf [0] (i=516afe23@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b0a18c11497d892e) 21.24.33 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 21.26.46 Quit alsaf (Client Quit) 21.33.12 Quit Clint ("!@#%!@%#!@% helirhi2l13h412 35!@#%!@") 21.33.51 Nick dionoea_ is now known as dionoea (n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net) 21.37.42 Join webguest65 [0] (i=4c10ea95@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e9b55d42ae440548) 21.39.36 # hi i have a queastion i have a lot of video converters that i use to convert my movies to mpeg so rockbox can play them but they wont play. do you guys know of a free converter i can use to convert my movies to a format that rockbox can play? 21.40.46 Quit blithe (Remote closed the connection) 21.40.46 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 21.40.56 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@stiletto.djblithe.com) 21.41.08 # * ender` yawns 21.41.41 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.42.39 # webguest65: The PluginMpegplayer wiki page lists lots of encoders that are known to work with Rockbox 21.43.14 # ok thank you i'll look at it right now. :) 21.45.28 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 21.47.07 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-129.student.uu.se) 21.49.21 Join joshin_ [0] (n=joshin@VDSL-130-13-11-71.PHNX.QWEST.NET) 21.50.14 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 21.50.22 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.50.33 Quit joshin (Nick collision from services.) 21.50.51 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.51.01 Nick joshin_ is now known as joshin (n=joshin@unaffiliated/joshin) 21.52.54 Quit Suleeto () 21.53.10 Quit bertrik ("bye") 21.53.14 Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.57.02 Quit JdGordon ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.58.09 Join Clint [0] (n=Clint@thumb.scru.org) 21.59.16 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 21.59.32 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.01.29 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 22.02.35 Quit midgey () 22.03.16 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.03.28 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.03.50 Quit Clint (Remote closed the connection) 22.03.55 Join Clint [0] (n=Clint@thumb.scru.org) 22.06.27 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 22.11.21 Quit Siku (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22.12.36 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.17.14 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435403e9.dyn.optonline.net) 22.17.28 Part bughunter2 22.17.33 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 22.20.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.20.48 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5F4F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.27.11 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 22.27.48 Join bughunter3 [0] (n=Administ@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 22.28.05 Quit joshin (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.28.05 Quit blithe (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit ctaylorr (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit obo (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit OlivierBorowski (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit J3TC- (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit idnar (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit midkay (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit Bagder (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit animeloe (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit entropic (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.05 Quit FOAD (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit JimiRidge (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit RaRe (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit [omni] (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit DaCapn (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit J (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit Nimdae (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit maraz (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit lostlogic (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit jepler (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit Weiss (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit DiDjCodt (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit fxb__ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Quit daurnimator (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.28.06 Part bughunter3 22.28.11 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.28.11 NJoin OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-37-135.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.29.32 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.34 NJoin fxb__ [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 22.29.56 NJoin Weiss [0] (i=taw27@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk) 22.29.59 NJoin DiDjCodt [0] (n=djc@poy.chewa.net) 22.30.12 Join lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@temporal.lostlogicx.com) 22.30.13 NJoin ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.30.14 NJoin J [0] (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 22.30.15 *** Server message 505: 'logbot_ :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 22.44.55 NJoin daurnimator [0] (n=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 22.46.32 Quit JETC- (".•«UPP»•.") 22.48.15 Join etedor [0] (n=etedor@c-71-56-134-221.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 22.49.11 # hellooo rockbox people who should help me please :( 22.49.12 # wow, during dec so far, e200 is the most downloaded build from the build page 22.49.35 # all the more reason to help me 8( 22.49.53 # etedor: it's a lot easier if you tell us what the problem is 22.49.56 # etedor, what is the problem 22.50.10 Join wippeout [0] (n=wriggle@jma42-1-88-169-39-211.fbx.proxad.net) 22.50.13 # hello 22.50.20 # e250 with rockbox doesn't show up under drives 22.50.28 Quit hanseatic (Remote closed the connection) 22.50.29 # and i don't see anywhere to turn on msc mode in settings 22.50.31 # etedor: rebbot it to the OF 22.50.36 # some news about rockbox ? 22.50.44 # original firmware? 22.50.45 # wippeout: always 22.50.51 # oups 22.50.55 # zen vision 22.51.01 # never 22.51.02 # etedor: yes, rockbox doesn't support usb transfers on sansas yet 22.51.03 # ;-) 22.51.19 # ... oh 22.51.23 # wippeout: check the forum thread, that's about the only place where vision m things happen 22.51.35 # what does it use then? i just got a refurb that came with no software 22.51.38 # i seen 22.51.47 # etedor: you can use the OF 22.52.03 # etedor, it uses the sansa firmware or OF 22.52.23 # i just want to know the missing part to have a fully new version for zen vision 22.52.27 # the sansa firmware *is* the OF... 22.52.45 # wippeout: yes, and... "the forum thread, that's about the only place" 22.53.05 # ... so what exactly do i do with it. i downloaded the firmware updater but it doesn't do anything. i didn't get any software cd with it 22.53.12 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.53.30 # etedor: hold << while booting it 22.54.02 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 22.54.31 # etedor, why do you need the updater.. when the OF is on the sansa if you did the steps right 22.54.42 Quit jturek ("leaving") 22.55.03 # ok to be sure, of = original firmware? 22.55.13 # yes 22.55.14 # etedor, yes 22.55.33 # ok. i got a refurb e250. it came with no software. you say rockbox doesn't support usb transfer 22.55.38 # so what am i supposed to use to transfer? 22.55.45 # etedor: so it didn't work? 22.56.02 Join JETC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 22.56.09 # you bought a broken player? 22.56.18 # it came with the original firmware 22.56.22 # but it's not reading id3 tags or something 22.56.28 # etedor: the sansa OF can connect over msc or mtp no need for any special software 22.56.31 # so then you have the OF 22.56.53 # so are people rebooting into of when they want to transfer music? 22.56.57 # yes 22.57.01 # etedor, yea 22.57.12 Nick brown is now known as Presence (i=presence@irev.net) 22.57.29 # ok. any chance you guys know why my tags aren't being read in the OF? 22.57.52 # this channel is about rockbox...just about rockbox ;) 22.58.16 # etedor, that is offtopic for this channel 22.58.22 # etedor, life will be easier if you only use the of to transfer files over USB and Rockbox for everything else. 22.58.43 # well. the music i transferred in msc mode doesn't even show up in rockbox under files 22.59.03 Part TheCompWiz 22.59.08 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 22.59.13 # etedor, the music folder is hidden 22.59.31 # i unhid it. i've already transferred music into there 22.59.40 # the OF rehides it 22.59.49 # rename it and smile 23.01.04 Quit JETC- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.01.20 # alright... is there an eta on actual usb transfer support? 23.01.26 # no 23.01.32 # we don't do etas 23.01.36 Join JETC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 23.01.53 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 23.02.36 # you can make it happen sooner by joining in and helping out 23.03.25 # heh i have no coding ability 23.04.25 # never a time like the present to learn! 23.04.51 # i've tried. didn't enjoy it 23.06.23 Quit wippeout () 23.06.43 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 23.10.27 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.12.44 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 23.15.26 Quit midgey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.15.28 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 23.16.09 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 23.16.13 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 23.16.24 Join Workaphobia [0] (n=Jonathan@royal-purple-24.dynamic2.rpi.edu) 23.20.30 # hehe, busybox sues verizon on license violation 23.21.03 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 23.22.44 Quit Frazz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.23.22 # people interested in Llorean's talk with real might also be interested in this post by him: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14244.msg106624#msg106624. Just thought I could point there in case no one else saw it... 23.25.19 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.26.06 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 23.27.33 # interesting...i might have a go at finding out more of that since i have been lurking in the OLPC community for a bit lately 23.27.35 # Bagder: hah, sues 23.27.37 # that's nice 23.28.00 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 23.28.08 # yeah, talk about david and goliath ... 23.28.13 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 23.29.24 # is that cover flow plugin for real? 23.29.43 # well, i wouldn't know 23.29.46 # if it is, it's way cool 23.29.50 # dunno why he hasn't talked to us yet 23.30.02 # it looks stunning 23.30.42 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.30.44 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.30.55 # i think someone mailed him 23.31.17 # Nico_P is apparently working on it... 23.31.25 # I think I saw him here too 23.31.27 # (he's in contact with the author) 23.31.34 # why, leet 23.31.37 # yeah, I am 23.31.39 # i'd love that thing in rockbox 23.31.45 # Nico_P: Got a patch? ;) 23.31.56 # Nico_P: know anything about the specific? 23.31.57 # s 23.32.24 # linuxstb: yeah, just a sec 23.32.32 # preglow: what kind of specifics? 23.32.53 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@stiletto.djblithe.com) 23.33.20 # as how the current plugin works 23.33.31 # on a sidenote, will a debian compiled binary work okay on ubuntu (sendfirm.c) 23.33.39 # should 23.33.56 # if a linux binary uses no fancy libs, it should run on most linuxes 23.34.06 # but sometimes people can't agree on library naming/versioning 23.34.58 # I will try again upgrading S's binary with the rockbox bootloader, I failed to do so from windows so I will have to try with ubuntu 23.35.15 # sendfirm needs libmtp installed though. 23.35.33 # yeah I will ahve that in mind 23.36.21 # linuxstb: do you have the 30gb or 60gb model? 23.36.29 # linuxstb, preglow: http://pastebin.ca/808807 23.36.31 # 60 23.36.38 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966D55.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.36.39 # should apply with -p1 23.36.54 Quit lee-qid_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.37.09 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 23.38.19 # Nico_P: Where does it get the bmps from? 23.38.46 # linuxstb: /pics/coverx.bmp 23.38.52 # where x is a number 23.39.10 # So cover1, cover2, cover23 etc? 23.39.22 # yes 23.39.31 # Is there a limit to the number? 23.39.46 # And what size should they be? 23.40.02 # they shouldn't be bigger than 100x100 23.40.25 # Nico_P: did you have script for resizing things, you say? 23.40.25 # and I think no more than 100 pics will be loaded 23.40.36 # i can't be bothered to find out how imagemagick does stuff again... 23.40.37 # preglow: yes, look at the AA wiki page 23.40.45 # Nico_P: leet 23.41.08 # Do you have a script for creating the coverx.bmp files, or did you just do it by hand? 23.42.13 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.2.7-dev") 23.42.19 # linuxstb: I ran the follwing in the pics dir 23.42.21 # j=0; find /home/nicolas/musique/Albums/ -iname "cover.jpg" | while read file; do echo $file; j=$((j+1)); convert "$file" -thumbnail 100x100 "cover$j.bmp"; done; 23.43.06 # Perfect ;) 23.43.46 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 23.44.19 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 23.44.58 Part rayj ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 23.47.45 # ahaha 23.47.45 # this rocks 23.48.37 # i need to start collecting album art :) 23.50.51 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.51.43 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 23.51.48 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.52.34 # Nico_P: How many covers is it storing in memory ? It seems to be forgetting them... 23.53.23 # yeah it's not keeping them all although it could, and there's a delay between each loading for debugging 23.55.49 # amiconn: with a voice file loaded, the status bar lags on nano... 23.56.32 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.56.50 # not that I would care much but 100x100 would be too big for at least on colour target... ;) 23.57.09 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 23.57.41 # the aim is to use any size available 23.57.55 # Should it work whilst music is playing? 23.58.19 # linuxstb: no. it could if we made room for the bitmaps in the main buffer 23.58.23 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 23.58.34 # it will work if the buffer isn't full