--- Log for 09.12.107 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 15 hours ago 00.00.07 # "Make sure the disk isnt full, or write protected" 00.00.17 # my reaction: WTF 00.00.18 # Those microsd cards have a write protect lever 00.00.23 # Where...? 00.00.26 # o.o 00.00.29 # Very easy to switch by accident... 00.00.36 # its... tiny 00.00.40 # where is it 00.00.46 # Ah, no, I'm confusing something 00.01.08 # SD cards have one 00.01.10 # I know that 00.01.12 # That was the sd adapter for those cards 00.01.16 # Yes 00.01.17 # Wait 00.02.11 # the big SD cards have that - and I often switch that just by inserting said adapter into my card reader :\ 00.02.21 # Yeah 00.02.29 # Thats what i as gonna ask 00.02.55 # its in the UNLOCK position to start with 00.03.24 # *inserts it as LOCKED, then removes it changing it to UNLOCK" 00.05.55 Part thouters 00.06.45 # ... gahh. no luck. 00.07.30 Part |NSA| 00.09.10 Join spasticteapot [0] (n=joe@76.201.146.162) 00.11.19 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.11.48 # Its okay... I can access it through file explorer apparently 00.12.13 # but.. the media streaming program my HP has wont read my card 00.12.42 # thanks anyway guys.. 00.13.14 # While im here, any functionality updates were released for rockbox since the second of december? 00.14.13 Quit dak0ta12 () 00.14.15 # Klevi: see wiki/MajorChanges 00.14.18 # You can see the recent changes here - http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html 00.17.52 # * Bagder nows spots the nice new tower 00.24.15 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.24.36 Join l7 [0] (n=l7@evil-wire.org) 00.26.15 Join webguest43 [0] (i=d9e1e19e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d9b89aeb65c549ae) 00.27.14 # does the Arcos Recorder also have software USB ? 00.27.27 # no 00.28.00 # ah, so the drivers that it wants when connecting to a pc is for something else ? 00.28.26 # No, you're supposed to ignore those. 00.28.44 # The current USB support from within Rockbox is pretty much for recharging only. 00.28.45 # an archos recorder should not cause that 00.29.05 # Bagder: Ah... I'm not familiare with all the targets that Rockbox runs on. 00.29.11 # webguest43: What OS? 00.29.19 # An archos recorder *will* make windows ask for drivers, unless it's the 20GB model 00.29.29 # hey, does anyone have an opinion on what the best way to install rockbox on a sansa is? 00.29.30 # ah yes, the pre 20 ones... 00.29.35 # Same goes for all archos Player/Studio models 00.29.37 # or some 15... 00.29.37 # i am looking at rockbox utility 00.29.45 # Win xp; Well, whenever I plug my Recorder into a "vigin" pc, it prompts for drivers which I duly point it to 00.29.53 # and also this: http://lodist.com/showthread.php?t=1538 00.29.57 Quit nicktastique (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.30.10 # as i have said before, some ajbrv1 15 gigs were 2.0, some were 1.1 00.30.21 # webguest43: That doesn't mean those devices have software usb, it just means they don't speak the standard USB MSC protocol 00.30.32 # thanks, just wondering 00.30.33 # l7: We don't support any install methods but the one in the manual. Just use it, it works. 00.31.28 # They have a hardware usb-ata bridge like all other targets except the portalplayer ones, just one from before USB MSC was specified 00.31.39 # ah okay, i found rbutility 00.32.01 # i wonder if there are any differences between mac and windows installers 00.32.33 # there shouldn't be. 00.32.35 # one is compiled as a mac executable....one is compiled as a windows executable 00.32.49 # that should be the difference 00.32.53 Quit spasticteapot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.33.28 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 00.33.30 Part webguest43 00.33.41 # i guess 1.0.3 on a mac is better than 1.0.2 on windows 00.34.07 # the windows version is rbutilqt-1.0.3pre.zip 00.34.34 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.35.31 # How do I make lame work recursively? 00.35.42 # davidfg4, that's off topic here. 00.35.47 # what does "pre" mean? 00.35.48 # oh 00.36.04 # I couldn't find a lame help channel 00.36.09 # #lame, maybe? 00.36.21 # l7: There's no difference between 1.0.3pre and 1.0.3 00.36.50 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 00.36.56 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 00.37.38 # #lame doesn't exist 00.38.21 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 00.38.56 Quit Klevi ("Im forcing myself to sleep for trimester exams this week.... Be well everyone =)") 00.38.57 # davidfg4: Well, honestly, whether it exists or not doesn't make it on-topic for this channel. 00.40.54 Join lemur_ [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 00.42.59 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.44.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.45.44 # \quit sorry 00.45.47 Part davidfg4 00.45.57 Join lemur__ [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 00.47.34 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 00.48.32 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 00.49.58 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 00.50.13 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 00.51.09 # I installed rockbox with a standard build from the main site, but I want to install a theme that shows album art, and it wants the "kugel build." Can I just install that over top of the original rockbox, or should I delete the .rockbox dir and start fresh? 00.52.28 Join Shaid [0] (i=shaid@124-168-89-86.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.55.31 # samwichse: Honestly, I'd recommend you stick with the official build, and go to the provider of the unofficial build for questions if you really must use it. Since the official version has Album Art too now, WPS authors should be, hopefully, converting and updating theirs 00.55.36 # samwichse: you should be able to "install that over the top", but keep in mind that that is an unsupported build 00.55.51 # ok 00.56.06 # how recent is album art support built in to the official? 00.56.56 # ie: the official copy was dowloaded 11-12-07 00.57.06 # and seems not to support it 00.57.08 Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.57.27 # which date format is that ? 00.57.36 Quit lemur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.57.37 # err... september 12 00.57.40 Quit lemur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.57.43 # november 00.57.49 # november 12th, sorry 00.57.49 Quit stewball (No route to host) 00.57.53 # (long day) 00.57.55 # that's a pretty old build then 00.57.56 # samwichse: The MajorChanges wiki page tells when new features were added. But the WPS may still need fixing. 00.59.02 # ok, I'll download the latest official and see how that works out 01.00.50 # MajorChanges still isn't linked from the frontpage? :> 01.03.32 Quit captmorgan (Connection timed out) 01.04.31 Join captmorgan [0] (n=chatzill@ip72-223-92-151.ph.ph.cox.net) 01.11.02 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.11.54 # so the original now includes the album art patch and the bmp resize patch? 01.12.24 # err.. original=official 01.12.51 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.14.53 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 01.15.57 # samwichse: Neither 01.16.06 # oh 01.16.15 # The official build now supports album art 01.16.29 # I don't see any themes showing album art that DON'T require at least one... 01.16.30 # ...done the right way, not like the old patch did it 01.16.45 # or does that mean it just needs those features present? 01.16.58 # and not the actual patch? 01.17.07 # Same feature, different (better) implementation 01.17.35 # so a theme that says it needs the patches will work fine without them in the official 01.17.42 # (is the question) 01.17.55 # I don't know. Maybe the wps needs a bit of adjustment 01.18.05 # * amiconn doesn't use album art 01.18.14 # k, I'll give it a shot 01.18.29 Part DarkStylist 01.20.08 Join spasticteapot [0] (n=joe@76.201.146.162) 01.25.06 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Administ@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 01.25.27 Part bughunter2 01.26.38 Quit captmorgan ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") 01.31.52 # the answer is: most don't work correctly, a few do 01.33.32 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host202-206-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.35.38 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.36.05 Join ralphy [0] (n=na@137.216.192.220) 01.48.28 Quit ender` (" I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.") 01.49.56 Quit l7 ("Lost terminal") 01.51.53 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.56.49 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 02.09.14 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 02.11.09 Quit spasticteapot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.12.06 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 02.13.26 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host202-206-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.13.27 Join l7 [0] (n=l7@evil-wire.org) 02.13.40 # argh 02.13.47 # i seem to be having some rockbox install issues 02.14.00 # windows will not recognize the rockbox in msc mode 02.14.06 # it gives a code 10 error 02.14.20 # "recognize the Rockbox"? 02.14.26 # yeah 02.14.34 # well it wouldn't install the usb drivers properly 02.14.40 # What player are you talking about 02.14.43 # but, it did sort of work in windows safe mode 02.14.49 # a sansa e200 02.14.57 # And you're in the original firmware when connecting? 02.15.08 # however rbutil does not seem to work in safe mode with networking 02.15.10 # Rockbox doesn't have a working USB stack yet for those players. 02.15.21 # yes, i'm working with a OF 02.15.43 # So why did you say "Recognize the Rockbox" at all then of rockbox isn't installed? 02.16.10 # Are you trying to install the bootloader then? 02.16.20 # yes 02.16.28 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-150-29.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 02.16.35 # have you tried the manual install? 02.16.39 # well i think i have a V2 e200 sansa 02.16.57 # Well didn't you verify before you started? 02.17.00 # well i am about to try to see if i can now go back to normal windows mode and install with rbutil 02.17.07 # check the original firmware's version 02.17.20 # what versions will work with rockbox? 02.17.27 # The V2 player won't work ata ll 02.17.35 # If the original firmware version is 3.anything then it's a V2 02.18.29 Join l7__ [0] (n=l7@evil-wire.org) 02.18.34 # re 02.19.01 # dammit 02.19.08 # can i downgrade the firmware? 02.19.19 # It's a hardware thing 02.19.25 # The v2 player is different hardware entirely 02.19.30 # oh crap 02.19.39 # i guess i better return this thing 02.19.44 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.19.54 # it was a e260 from a recent woot 02.20.05 # i think woot's e250s worked :\ 02.20.11 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.30 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.20.33 # it is version 01.02.18A 02.20.33 Quit Soap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.37 # is that a V2? 02.20.44 # l7, that is a v1 02.20.52 # phew 02.21.01 # it does not work with my mac for some reason 02.21.09 # Did you try the manual install method? 02.21.11 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944 02.21.14 # not yet 02.21.18 # i'm wondering what i should do 02.21.31 # no, that's a v1. Do you run rbutil with admin/root rights (whatever it's called)? 02.21.32 # it is mounted as a msc drive in windows now 02.21.46 # yeah it was an admin account in windows 02.21.51 # Try the manual install 02.21.54 # safe mode might have been the problem 02.21.54 # As I suggested earlier. 02.21.56 # l7, i have here you need to have 1.01.11 to work with a mac right 02.22.50 # advcomp2019: i believe that is what someone said on the ABI forums 02.22.55 # well it's time for dinner 02.23.01 # i will try a manual install afterwards 02.23.56 # i dont understand why sandisk is doing stupid things that make rockbox incompatible 02.23.59 # oh well 02.24.10 # if anyone else gets a code 10 error, safe mode may help them 02.24.24 # Because people do stupid things like return their players after failing to install Rockbox, or messing them up by installing it wrong, and costing them money. 02.24.39 # oh 02.24.43 # that's too bad 02.24.59 # considering they originally wanted to help with rockbox 02.25.06 Part pixelma 02.25.49 # maybe they'd make a bit more money from sales by people like me who buy a sansa for rockbox 02.26.27 # of course, i suspect rockbox on their older generation of players is probably better than their new generation of players 02.30.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 02.32.04 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 02.40.36 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@062016137025.customer.alfanett.no) 02.42.31 Join lemur [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 02.44.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.56.31 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 02.57.51 Nick bagawk_ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@71-221-93-238.eugn.qwest.net) 02.58.47 Quit lemur__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.59.56 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp518.hk.centurytel.net) 03.01.44 # if and when the default theme is changed. will the new wps load when there is something wrong with a loaded wps? or will the "real default" wps be loaded then? 03.01.45 Join spasticteapot [0] (n=joe@76.201.146.162) 03.02.34 # The basic default will load if there's a flaw. 03.02.38 # The one that currently loads 03.02.50 # that one's hard-coded, compiled in, and doesn't depend on any files on the disk except rockbox.ipod 03.03.08 # ah good. 03.03.42 Quit linuxstb ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 03.04.21 # how does one become the new default theme then? not from how do you make one but how do you make rockbox have a new theme? i hope you understand what im trying to say 03.05.58 # Pretty easy. Include it in the rockbox.zip, and have Rockbox look for it first if no theme is set in the .cfg 03.08.04 Quit davidfg4 ("bye") 03.08.28 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 03.11.30 Join janitux [0] (n=janitux@201.236.126.31) 03.24.06 # hey, what is DockPod Aqua? 03.24.19 # i recieved an HTTP error 400 during installation of it 03.24.47 # It's a theme? 03.24.54 # oh okay 03.25.41 # it seems that the URL has changed 03.25.58 # rbutil can bring up dockpod aqua large, but not the normal one 03.28.04 # why did the H4rdc0r3_Linux ReadMe.txt file wind up in the root directory of my sansa? 03.31.25 # woohoo it worked 03.32.26 # okay i love rockbox now i think 03.41.26 Quit janitux (Remote closed the connection) 03.42.40 Quit l7 ("Lost terminal") 03.42.57 Quit spasticteapot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.43.46 # hrm, weird 03.44.24 # Bagder: (hoping you read the logs) could you possibly fix the commit msg for r15738 so that it references the right FS task? it's actually FS#5960 that was committed 03.44.39 # i plugged in the e200 after installing rockbox and now windows is giving me more usb grief 03.45.14 # the LED stays lit up and e200 refuses to boot 03.45.25 # l7__, are you in OF or rockbox 03.45.33 # advcomp2019: nope 03.45.41 # there is a blank screen 03.45.47 # and the LED is lit 03.46.00 # crap, are you supposed to boot into OF before connecting? 03.48.18 # the problem is i can't power off now 03.48.24 # freaking windows 03.48.52 # Hold power for 15 seconds. 03.48.59 # If that doesn't work, hold it longer 03.49.14 # phew 03.49.20 # okay it worked 03.49.20 # And please try not to punctuate with the enter key. At the very least attempt to type complete sentences and thoughts 03.49.55 # i thought it was dead.... alright i'll try to type paragraphs. i'm back to rockbox firmware now. 03.50.25 # i assume that it is probably best to be in OF before connecting any USB cables 03.51.23 # windows did install a driver for an "Unknown Device" after i plugged in the e200 while powered off 03.51.51 Join l7_ [0] (n=l7@evil-wire.org) 03.55.50 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 03.56.13 Quit jmworx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.56.50 Join jmworx [0] (n=jmworx@panoramix.CeNTIE.NET.au) 03.59.47 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.59.54 # well thanks for your help everyone. i'm gonna go play around with this new toy and try not to break it 04.00.26 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 04.01.14 # l7_: I had that experience too, when you plug in the cable when in RB, somertimes it starts charging, somtimes it freezes like you described: permanently lit scrollwheel, black screen. However, it's not dangerous, the device can, as stated, be hard reset by just holding power button long enough... 04.01.56 # mokkurkalve: ah cool. that is good to know since it rather scary. it _looks_ bricked the first time around :) 04.02.28 # it boots in 10 seconds, which is rather sweet 04.03.41 # now if i can only find a hack to get it to work with my mac, it would be perfect 04.04.06 # l7__: It's hard to really brick the e200's - I flashed the thing from "rcovery" mode with files that was corrupted by faulty USB controllers on MoBo - it survived that too... 04.04.31 # rcovery -> recovery 04.06.28 # MoBo = your motherboard? 04.06.51 # Usually, yes. 04.06.59 # l7__: correct 04.07.41 # is that corruption problem happened to anyone else? 04.07.54 # er, _has_ that corruption problem happened to anyone else? 04.08.42 # mokkurkalve's problem was a motherboard issue. That means it was hardware based. So, chances are that it's only him that would have that problem. 04.09.01 # *him/her 04.09.10 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 04.09.16 Quit BjoernErik (No route to host) 04.10.05 # hrm yeah. i am just wondering about what caused all the USB connection issues earlier with my computer and if they are related 04.10.08 # It was my MoBo - Had nothing to do with RB. I could still get into Recovery mode - transfer the firmware files anew from a different computer (old laptop) and save the device ;) 04.10.35 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 04.11.07 # l7__, you don't need a hack to make it work on a mac. the sansa's OF does MSC mode, which is universal. 04.11.44 # krazykit: i think the later firmware versions do not mount on a mac. at least not the version i have 04.12.23 # i'm reading this post right now 04.12.25 # http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/print?board.id=e200&message.id=1306&page=1&format=page 04.13.08 # l7_, you can downgrade the firmware IIRC 04.13.16 # l7__, you could use sansapatcher to downgrade the firmware easily 04.13.29 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 04.13.56 # l7__, sansapatcher -of filename.mi4 04.14.03 # any suggestions on which e200 firmware is prefered by rockbox users? 04.14.51 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.14.51 # i'm wondering if i should update to sandisk's latest version, or downgrade to earlier ones. there were some rumors about the later 01.03 versions working with macs... 04.15.10 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html 04.15.24 # 1.00.12 ought to work. 04.15.59 # Somebody in this channel gave me a link to a page with a collection of sansa firmware... haven't got that link here as I'm at work... 04.16.16 # l7__, if you want to use it on macs i would says 1.01.11 is the newest one that will work 04.16.21 # cool thanks. i also found many webpages that link to http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/Downloads/firmware/e200fw01.00.12.exe 04.16.59 # why would sandisk break mac support for later versions? that just seems even more bizarre. 04.17.49 # Mouser_X: mokkurkalve got the plumbing on the outside ;D 04.19.52 # krazykit: There was a server with a much larger collection than daniel.haxx 04.20.23 # mokkurkalve, yeah, on zephie or something. 04.20.28 # mokkurkalve: any idea which site that is? 04.20.44 # If I may ask a question that probably gets asked too often: What is the latest word for Zune Rockbox? 04.20.57 # ralphy: there is no word 04.21.16 # no one is actively working on it 04.21.23 # Ic. 04.21.35 # rockbox on zune would be nice, with it's wifi support and all. 04.22.04 # What are the difficulties, then? 04.22.09 # l7__, except for the fact that rockbox has no networking stack. 04.22.11 # just because the zune supports wifi doesnt mean rockbox would 04.22.24 # ralphy: Same as they've always been. Nobody's gotten unsigned code to run. 04.22.25 # ralphy: there is a whole thread about it in the new ports forum 04.22.30 # ralphy, closed hardware, encrypted firmware, no way to run unsigned code 04.22.31 # ralphy: The forum thread, despite not updating in forever, is up to date 04.22.45 # typical microsoft 04.22.47 # is there a 5th? =P 04.22.54 # Thank you, all. 04.23.17 # I currently have Rockbox on my Sansa, and I like it a lot. 04.23.23 # Indeed. 04.23.34 # same here, it is pretty awesome 04.25.12 # here is some firmwares.. http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/e200/firmware/ 04.26.16 # hrm, i am curious, has anyone tried creating a disk image of their rockbox player and restoring that image at later point? 04.27.38 # woo, wasn't expecting to save that many bytes. I think that's a new personal record :) 04.28.28 # advcomp2019: Yes. That's the site I used. 04.28.29 # if anyone has problems with Ogg Vorbis or Ogg Speex metadata after that commit please raise a bug in flyspray 04.28.52 # l7__, it'd work. not terribly useful, IMO. 04.30.23 # safetydan: That's a lot 04.31.41 # What makes it vary so much across targets though? 04.32.50 # Llorean, alignment. The USB structures have a large alignment constraint which makes things jump around a bit on those targets. 04.34.55 Quit ralphy () 04.37.11 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 04.44.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.37 Quit PaulJam (".") 04.45.42 Quit davidfg4 ("bye") 04.45.50 Quit psycho_maniac (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.49.33 Quit mokkurkalve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.49.36 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@062016137025.customer.alfanett.no) 04.50.08 # anyone know if it's possible for rockbox to see hidden directories? 04.50.29 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@207.61.208.119) 04.50.30 # i am amused as sandisk's clever attempt to hide it's music files 04.50.37 # s/as/at 04.50.40 # In "All" mode for File View you can see hidden folders 04.51.00 Join antixogh [0] (n=antixogh@cpe-67-11-218-157.satx.res.rr.com) 04.51.14 Part antixogh 04.51.45 # thanks, i will try that 04.55.29 # I put my music files in a different directory. Still: It is amusing that the Sansa must hide it's "MUSIC" directory, but unhide the "tmp" directory... (???) 04.56.07 # Why does it even need a "tmp" directory? 04.56.27 # I guess it could use it for recordings? 04.57.24 # There's no files in it. But the OF insist on having it. And unhiding it. Mysteries of the universe.... 04.57.57 # "On today's show, we'll show you how to make Plutonium out of household items." 04.58.19 # There is a separate recording dir..... ??? 04.59.18 # haha, upside down rockbox is cool.. and slightly more ergonomic as well 04.59.45 # I'm liking the inverted Rettumbox theme. 04.59.54 # (I probably mispelled that.) 05.00.03 # Probably some verrrry wise desicion in Sansa HQ that just shoots over the heads of us lowly plebs.... 05.00.13 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.00.18 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF51EA.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.00.26 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 05.00.26 # Though, I should modify it somewhat. It's a little too bright for my liking. 05.00.39 # mokkurkalve, probably the same people that decided to force the Hidden attribute on the music directory. 05.02.01 # what is the filename for the rettumbox theme? i don't see it in my player 05.02.15 # That's because it's not there. 05.02.26 # Yes. Must be some hidden esoteric knowledge behind it.... 05.02.30 # You'd have to download it from http://www.rockbox-themes.org 05.04.01 # Chicago 12 is a nice font for the mac-like themes 05.07.18 Quit l7__ ("Lost terminal") 05.12.08 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 05.12.30 Join l7 [0] (n=l7@evil-wire.org) 05.30.39 # anyone know how far off offical USB support is for rockbox? 05.30.55 # we dont give out etas 05.31.52 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.37.27 # ah okay 05.38.10 # hrm, does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the blue LCDs on the e200 clickwheel through the software? they are rather annoying at night 05.38.44 # the manual knows 05.39.08 # * JdGordon knows also 05.39.37 # JdGordon: care to share your insight? 05.40.02 # he is currently duct-taped...ask the manual... 05.40.26 # pink duct-tape no doubt 05.40.31 # just disable one of the GPIO bits.... cant rmember which exactly.... 05.42.22 # hrm, i'm checking the rockbox pdf 05.42.23 Join pradi1 [0] (n=pradin@pool-71-183-247-4.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 05.42.45 # no results for LED or GPIO unless it is virtual LED, which it is probably not 05.42.55 # l7: Try "wheel" or "light" 05.42.58 # read the manual!! 05.43.30 # i'm searching! 05.43.57 # although it wouldnt be a bad idea to just read the whole thing 05.44.37 # yeah i probably will at somepoint 05.47.47 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.2.7-dev") 05.49.56 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.49.58 # ah it was under system, wheel light 05.50.10 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@c-24-13-84-219.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.50.11 # i thought it would have been under display or something 05.50.33 # anyhow, i'm glad rockbox has a feature to turn off that damn light 05.52.12 # i was looking for LED when i should have been looking for "wheel light" in the manual 05.52.17 # actually, by looking at the online manual the System > Wheel light setting is not documented yet... 05.53.59 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 05.55.50 # In addition several settings not relevant for e200, like "Disk spindown", ARE documented....... 05.56.50 # I should get around to learning LaTeX soon..... 05.56.59 # which online manual is this? 05.58.18 # scorche: Daily built manual for e200, "online" version... 05.58.20 # hrm...i guess it isnt 05.58.20 # Can someone give me wiki write access? My name is KeithPerri. 06.02.10 # * Mouser_X needs to buckle down, and make some WPSs... 06.02.23 # (I want some with animation, just for kicks. 06.02.26 # ) 06.04.17 Quit tchan (Remote closed the connection) 06.06.34 Quit pradi1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.13.27 Quit l7 ("Lost terminal") 06.13.47 Quit jmspeex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.14.17 Join jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) 06.14.20 Quit l7_ ("Lost terminal") 06.14.34 # Mouser... if you make a WPS with 16 font and 100x100 album art on a black background that doesn't require a special build, that would be beyond awesome. 06.14.55 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 06.17.34 # Is there anyone here that could grant me wiki access? 06.19.26 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039da7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0a7d52ecda653c65) 06.19.37 # KeithPerri now has wiki access 06.19.53 # thanks 06.20.45 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 06.22.20 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.2.7-dev") 06.22.46 # samwichse: I don't use album art. But, I would certainly make a WPS that doesn't require a custom build. 06.23.27 # On the album art, I could make it conditional. However, don't get your hopes up. I've been intending to make a WPS or a theme for at least 10 months now. 06.24.19 # hah 06.24.31 # that's fine, I was just wishing aloud anyway 06.25.34 # I might experiment with it myself if I wasn't defending in a week 06.27.28 # are there any addons for doom to add music? 06.28.50 # Music isn't implemented yet, I think 06.36.36 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 06.37.09 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-105-192.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 06.44.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.48.42 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.06.13 Quit samwichse ("Leaving") 07.08.57 Join pradin [0] (n=pradin@psyduck-08.dynamic.rpi.edu) 07.12.44 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 07.13.25 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 07.13.38 Join Nemesis02 [0] (n=nemesis0@adsl-70-232-51-215.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) 07.19.02 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 07.20.01 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 07.27.44 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 07.28.52 # Just finished adding a search feature to the text_editor. How do I go about about contributing this modification to the main trunk? 07.29.24 # pradin, create a patch then add it to the tracker 07.29.28 # place the patch up on the tracker and direct a couple willing devs to have a look at it 07.30.01 # A search feature would certainly be nice. 07.30.33 # yes, it even supports wrapping 07.30.58 # It would be even better if the text_editor could open files too. 07.37.30 # Any particular diff parameters I must use when submitting a rockbox patch? 07.37.48 # a standard svn diff will work 07.38.08 # Preferably diff from the main Rockbox source folder, not any subfolders 07.38.10 # pradin: text_editor can open text files... 07.38.36 # or do you mean a open files dialog from inside text editor? 07.39.49 # JdGordon: Really? How can I open a file without a file dialog? 07.39.58 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 07.40.23 # pradin: ah yeah, you have to do it through the regular file browser.. 07.41.12 # JdGordon: As far as I understand, that's a completely different application. That's actually viewer.c 07.41.47 # browse to a text file, then open the context menu (usually hold down the select button) then go open with 07.44.40 # pradin: im interested in your patch when its up 07.46.01 # It has to be up soon. It's due for Monday in an open source class I'm taking. 07.46.22 # ? 07.46.26 Join Crash91 [0] (i=d98bd903@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-4f117c46e43e128f) 07.46.41 # At my university we have a class called open source practice. 07.47.09 # Basically each student has to find an open source project and contribute in some way. So Rockbox was my pick. 07.47.12 # they force evil communist OSS on you? :O 07.47.24 # do you get better marks if its accepted? 07.48.28 # I wish. 07.48.44 Join phr [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 07.48.57 # In some ways the class is very bias as it's being taught by the founder of an open source company called VTK. 07.49.58 # I think it's fun though. It's certainly more interesting than graph theory. 07.50.11 # :) 07.50.22 # Hey guys, got an e200 series Sansa player, what's the better build to go with for rockbox? i see there's a few builds, CPChan, the standard rockbox, and stuff. which would you guys find to be better? 07.50.41 # Standard Rockbox/. 07.51.02 # coooeeey midkay 07.51.11 # cooey JdGordon :) 07.51.23 # are there any docs about the sansa hardware other than what's on the e200-port page? 07.51.39 # midkay: go pm 07.52.19 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp457.hk.centurytel.net) 07.53.49 # Ok, so I loaded a sample text into the root directory of my Rockbox build. It's loaded into the viewer. However, I can't find an option to launch the text_editor from within the viewer. Maybe I should take a look at the source. 07.54.27 # Not from within viewer 07.54.44 # Highlight it in the file browser, and hold the select button down, choose "Open With..." and pick Text Editor there 07.55.00 # Ah, I see. 07.55.28 Part hcs 07.56.44 # So a single quick select in the file browser launches some default action? And holding down the select button brings up a context menu? 07.56.59 # yeah 07.57.53 # apps/filetypes.c is where that magic happens if your interested 07.57.55 Quit psycho_maniac (" !eyb") 07.58.22 # Interesting...that would be very useful for my search feature. I simply added search to the line options menu which in turn calls kbd_input() but now I could have a search sub menu if the user holds down the selection button. 07.58.42 Quit Nemesis02 ("Java user signed off") 07.59.30 # What does everyone think? Then you could have search forward, search backward 08.00.37 # search in viewer would be more usefull... 08.02.37 Join JKWood [0] (i=jk@gateway/tor/x-53ba920083db4067) 08.04.11 # Where is viewer.c again? 08.04.41 # apps/plugins 08.07.24 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 08.14.05 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 08.14.56 # I don't think search would be useful with the current state of the viewer as it doesn't support line highlighting. 08.15.40 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 08.16.41 Quit sdcarter ("See Ya!") 08.17.53 # I've been using the viewer to read eBooks (though, I have to convert them to TXT files first). 08.18.17 # * Crash91 dreams of PDF in rockbox one day 08.18.28 # maybe in uhm...5 10 years? 08.18.59 # search would be good enough to just get the text o the screen 08.19.15 # it has eben requested a fwe times.. although the current code sucks for it 08.19.18 # True enough. 08.19.41 # oh yeah, i have two questions 08.20.08 # #1 Why doesnt the "Recently Added" work in the database? No code? Disabled? 08.20.19 # e200? 08.20.20 # #2 Wtf does "Caption Backlight" do 08.20.23 # yes 08.20.40 # i tihnk recently added requires dircache which isnt enabled for e200 08.20.53 # A PDF viewer would be nice, just so that I could have the manual on my Gigabeat. However, I doubt that will happen anytime soon, if ever. An easy way to export the manual into a TXT file, or something, and then search that, would be darn handy. 08.20.57 # and caption backlight turns the backlight on for a few seconds at the begining of new tracks 08.21.17 # JdGordon: is it just a question of enabling it? 08.21.22 # yes 08.21.27 # what, which? 08.21.45 # the dircache 08.21.50 # no 08.21.54 # Mouser_X: Dance with joy? http://www.a-pdf.com/text/ 08.22.04 # dircache doesnt work mith multivolume (i.e the microsd card) 08.22.17 # Mouser_X: I mean, really, a google is all it takes man 08.22.26 # there is a patch which would allow it to work.. but Slasheri needs to look at it.... 08.22.34 # Are you sure? I recall them discussing it awhile ago, and that it worked, if you turned dircache on... Though, perhaps they took dircache out completely for Flash-based players. 08.22.37 # JdGordon: Well, how about just on the int? 08.22.38 # (or better yet.. remove the dircache dependancy) 08.22.55 # ^ Indeed. 08.23.06 # if you dont use the micro sd slot at all then you can compile your own without support and with dircache.. 08.24.10 # JdGordon: I use the microSD, but on that i dont have the whole /MUSIC/artist.... affair 08.24.33 # its all or none... 08.24.38 # and well i just find it easier to find new ones on the microSD 08.24.52 # JdGordon: kk, well ill wait 08.24.58 # im not 100% sure that is the bug though.... 08.25.02 # not my area of the code 08.25.05 Join pradi1 [0] (n=pradin@psyduck-08.dynamic.rpi.edu) 08.26.05 # anyone here speak German? 08.26.13 # JdGordon: Code is not my area of code 08.27.22 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.27.55 # * JdGordon misses his gmt+10 timezone 08.28.14 # anyone know if linuxstb has got anwhere with viewports eyt? 08.28.36 Join ravve [0] (n=ravon@c-e947e455.029-28-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 08.29.12 # nope 08.30.09 Quit JKWood ("Life is calling me...") 08.30.14 Quit sarixe ("(EE) Failed to load "quit" module") 08.34.49 Part pradi1 08.36.21 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13C7F.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.36.44 Quit pradin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.44.19 Quit Crash91 ("CGI:IRC") 08.44.23 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 08.44.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.48.19 Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 08.50.28 # gaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr! 08.50.35 # stupid phone reception in this room sucks 08.54.47 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.58.27 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.59.29 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 08.59.31 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 09.04.22 #