--- Log for 14.12.107 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 8 hours ago 00.02.35 # i really have no qualms about adding whoever adds something to rockbox in any way to that list 00.03.00 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A948C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.03.51 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 00.03.57 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.04.01 Quit PaulPosition () 00.04.30 # oogabooga=The secret Rockbox salute. <-- LOL I never encountered that!? It must be way before the iriver era! :P 00.05.07 # yeah, the rockbox contributors did more drugs in those days :P 00.06.17 # amiconn's explain.txt is hilarious indeed :D 00.08.54 # not sure I like the accumulation of "directory" with this patch. While that is also a problem of the phrasing in general, I think a "folder" here and there added some diversion at least... 00.11.20 # some sentences just read weird "Do not try to create a separate directory or directory on your player for the fonts! The .zip already contains the correct internal directory structure." 00.11.21 Join DrCrow_ [0] (n=DrCrow@216-62-187.200720.adsl.tele2.no) 00.11.35 # yeah, but is diversity is the enemy of consistency :) 00.11.41 # strike that first "is" 00.11.48 Quit DrCrow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.24 # pixelma: i'd rewrite that to "Do not try to create a separate directory on your player for the fonts! The .zip already contains the correct structure." 00.12.40 # yeah, I know. It just shows that it needs more work. 00.12.47 # oh yes 00.14.24 Quit phr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.38 # when I read that here, I also thought the same 00.14.56 # * scorche|w is glad the ffmpeg ML thread didnt get worse 00.14.56 # s/also// 00.15.54 # scorche|w: i might have just misinterpreted the hostility level there, some people are hard to read over mail 00.15.56 Join phr [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 00.16.23 Quit Slasheri (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.16.23 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.16.23 Quit Hadaka (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.16.23 Quit Siku (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.16.23 Quit Jon-Kha (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.16.24 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.16.34 # i'll just let that thread be, what needed saying has been said 00.16.37 # preglow: and IRC, and forums =P 00.16.57 # yeah, but some people tend to be more aggressive on anything not irc, for some reason 00.17.09 # i think the non-realtime nature of things make people just react differently 00.17.21 # anyway, it doesn't matter, it's all good 00.18.11 # * scorche|w nods 00.18.37 # can i assume people know what "frequencies" are? 00.18.44 # i'm too used to the word to be able to tell 00.19.33 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.19.54 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6415.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.20.35 Join Zone-Blaze [0] (n=UPP@c-75-74-188-178.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.23.05 # Hmm whats the other choise ;-) 00.23.08 # c 00.23.18 # hello 00.23.19 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 00.23.40 # there's no direct substitue, some small rewriting would have to be done 00.24.20 Quit midgey (Client Quit) 00.24.29 # ...? 00.24.57 # preglow, frequency is probably ok. 00.25.24 # also think its common and understandable enough 00.25.33 # rather, i can't think of a good, short way to really describe it 00.26.43 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.26.43 NJoin Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 00.27.08 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.27.31 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.27.34 NJoin Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 00.30.20 # amiconn: here? 00.31.10 NJoin Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 00.31.14 # amiconn: the mas loudness function is the same type of loudness function found elsewhere that is meant to compensate for psychoaccoustic effects when listening at low volumes, yes? 00.36.10 Quit qweru ("moo") 00.40.19 # is it good to describe the player's root as "main directory of your player's drive"? That sounds more confusing to me than what it is trying to replace... 00.41.23 Quit Siku (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.41.23 Quit Slasheri (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.41.23 Quit Hadaka (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.41.23 Quit Jon-Kha (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.42.30 NJoin Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 00.42.30 NJoin Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 00.42.30 NJoin Hadaka [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.42.30 NJoin Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 00.46.51 Quit Siku (Connection timed out) 00.47.02 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.47.20 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 00.49.32 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 00.53.32 Join Hamel [0] (n=Miranda@pool-71-174-23-153.bstnma.east.verizon.net) 00.53.49 # Hello? 00.53.58 # yes? 00.54.14 # can you help me set up a database on rockbox? 00.54.36 # explain rtfm 00.54.45 #>> "rtfm" by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 00.54.50 # bah 00.55.05 # huh? 00.55.13 # he means read the manual 00.55.27 # don't mind me, I wanted to try something new ;) 00.55.33 # oh 00.55.35 # ok 00.55.54 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 00.56.24 # * petur wonders how to make logbot talk in public 00.56.40 # but yeah i think you just need to go into the options somewhere and turn on the database, then it scans and asks you to reboot 00.56.43 Quit stewball (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.57.15 # well, if he's an eggdrop, it's fairly easy if you have access to the console on him. :P 00.58.27 # dancer 00.58.36 # i shall play with him when i get home :) 00.58.46 # petur: "logbot explain blah"? Though I'm not sure if someone already fed him with this phrase 00.58.57 # I did ;) 00.59.24 # * petur also needs to teach logbot about beer :D 00.59.25 # blah? ;) 00.59.27 # logbot explain rtfm 00.59.32 # no? 01.00.03 #>> "explain rtfm" by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 01.00.26 # gotcha 01.00.34 # how do you program it 01.00.40 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 01.00.59 # private messages 01.01.12 # see http://dancer.sourceforge.net/doc/dancerdoc-7.html 01.01.20 # you need to be on a list of authorised persons, don't you? 01.01.24 # yes 01.01.40 # seems you aren't (yet) 01.02.01 Quit Hamel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.10 # yeah I'll have to wait before I can join in the fun :) 01.02.24 # eh, does it have to notice the channel? 01.02.24 # hmmm maybe rtfm is a bit harsh... 01.02.52 # Atleast you didn't tell it what it all means 01.02.54 # petur: I couldn't read that openly (unlike Zagor's try earlier today) 01.03.29 # I think it was my fault though, nvermind 01.03.34 # *nevermind 01.03.40 # do we need to include defaults to settings in the manual? 01.03.42 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.03.46 # like for the mdb sound setting 01.03.49 Join shi [0] (n=shi@216-15-126-38.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) 01.05.01 # also, should we use "blabla has the following settings" with a dot or a colon before description lists? 01.08.05 Join shadonic96 [0] (n=shadonic@pool-71-255-19-128.atclnj.east.verizon.net) 01.08.45 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 01.08.58 # hello 01.09.02 # anyone 01.09.08 # hi 01.09.14 # i need some help with rockbox 01.10.27 # what precisely 01.11.22 # i installed a custom build from someone on the internet, and now the computer wont recognize the ipod when its plugged in, is there anyway to fix this 01.11.55 Quit Kage ("return(EXIT_SUCCESS);") 01.13.14 # you will need to tell more, including which device you use it on 01.13.18 # and also... 01.13.35 #>> "explain custom" by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 01.13.42 # tadaaa... 01.13.48 # * preglow cries 01.13.55 # its for the ipod 5.5 (video) 01.14.01 # boot it into disk mode 01.14.05 # pixelma: we need to find a way to typeset setting values, currently we use \setting{} for setting names, and a combination of \setting{} and ``'' for setting values 01.14.07 # which is done uh, somehow. 01.14.11 # it's in the manual somewhere 01.14.34 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 01.14.42 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 01.14.42 # i also tried to create an account on the forums, but the email seems to be taking forever 01.15.18 # shadonic96: some unsupported builds contain a patch that reverses the behaviour of charging and connecting to USB (usually just plug for data connection and holding "menu" for charging). If that doesn't help you can always put it in disk mode manually 01.15.41 # preglow: I guess... 01.16.02 # the manual also needs typesetting for PC keyboard keys I've noticed 01.16.10 # if it doesn't already 01.16.15 # >.> 01.16.31 Nick BilleniumZzZ is now known as Billenium (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 01.16.48 # DefineByte: send patches :) 01.17.07 # DefineByte: I'm currently brushing up your folder2directory patch a bit, mostly getting rid of too many "directories" in one place 01.17.17 # so what are the instructions specifically? hold down menu and select, because ive tried that a million times 01.17.40 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B167DC.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.17.41 # whatsoever is spelled like that, yes? 01.17.45 # I noticed that too but I was saving the rewriting for later 01.18.00 # yeah, it is 01.18.04 # also how exactly do you boot it into disk mode 01.18.13 Quit z35 ("Leaving") 01.18.33 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 01.19.26 # whoever wrote that part used folder and directory interchangeably to avoid too many 'directory's x) 01.19.27 # shadonic96: press play and select while booting 01.19.37 # shadonic96: what happens when you hold "menu" while plugging USB? Disk mode: menu+select and as soon as it reboots select+play (I hope, no Ipod here) 01.19.52 Join ZincAlloy [0] (i=d9eee2dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0af79767adb5f73c) 01.20.13 # doesn't the Ipod use the hold switch (or was that changed?)? 01.20.37 Join JonMikelV [0] (i=cea9f5fd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c71420135ac0519c) 01.20.58 # hold on i think i got it 01.21.06 Join jurrie__ [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 01.21.11 # RichiH, if you are still with us 01.21.13 # yeah, that's another option - would boot into the apple OS and then you can connect 01.22.11 Quit ZincAlloy (Client Quit) 01.22.18 # YES!!! Thank God, im not paying another 250 buck for y ipod video. thank you SO much pixelma 01.22.28 # DefineByte: I'm not doing too much to it, but in some places I just couldn't stand it 01.22.39 # pixelma: i definitely get the impression there's a lot of finetuning to be done in the manual, yeah 01.22.48 # Umm - OK. Not used IRC before but I guess I need to introduce myself and request write permissions for the Wiki. I'm JonMikelVanDerWege and would like to be able to update the SansaRuntime page with some MPEG viewing times on an e250. 01.22.59 Quit pikapika ("bye") 01.23.17 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.23.26 # shadonic96: bricking an Ipod is very very hard... :) 01.23.43 # i checked the site again and i found out that the build i was using was for the 5 gen, and i have the 5.5 01.25.41 # I've had some rewrites to the installation section sitting on my HDD since October. (#_#) 01.26.23 # well that would explain it. Any reason why you didn't go for an official build? 01.28.37 Quit jurrie_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.30.43 # DefineByte: is it subdirectory, sub-directory or even "sub directory"? I'd go with the former but... 01.31.20 # I went with webopedia 01.32.31 # and Chambers dictionary seems to agree 01.32.42 # wikipedia and webopedia both say subdirectory 01.33.12 # thanks 01.34.37 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.42.32 # well, i dont know how to install those plugin things, and i wanted a wps that lets me see album art, and this build said it was already installed 01.46.00 # eh, i downloaded the 5.5 version and it gives me a codec failiure :( 01.46.05 # album art is built in now 01.46.23 # built-in /cough 01.47.08 # "built in" isn't wrong in that context :> 01.48.04 # built-in reads better to me 01.48.50 Quit mrkiko (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.28 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.50.40 # "..playback will stop when the current directory or playlist is finished." <- how can a directory finish? ... 01.51.17 # and either way it stops when the playlist finishes only 01.51.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.52.19 Join wmpas [0] (n=aaaaa@cpe-72-184-95-48.tampabay.res.rr.com) 01.52.22 Quit DrCrow_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.24 Join DrCrow [0] (n=DrCrow@216-62-187.200720.adsl.tele2.no) 01.52.28 # I'm guessing they mean a playlist created by playing a directory 01.52.52 # in any case it's sufficient to say the playlist finished 01.53.01 # definitely 01.53.30 # yeah but I don't think it needs that, it's explained often enough before how you can create a playlist 01.53.32 # I was just doing a quick switcharoo with these patches before I settled down for a rewrite :) 01.54.10 # it stood out to me too but I wasn't in the mood to change it. x) 01.57.42 Part toffe82 01.58.44 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.59.12 # I'm attempting to install the firmware on a 5th gen ipod vid 30g from windows. When I run the installer, I get the following error: "Error reading from disk: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error." 01.59.14 # Can anyone help me? 01.59.42 # reboot the ipod and try agai 01.59.47 # again, even 01.59.58 # and by reboot I mean hold select and menu down for around 5 seconds 02.00.03 # ok 02.00.34 # and by installer you mean ipodpatcher.exe or rbutil? 02.00.57 Part JonMikelV 02.01.11 # ipodpatcher 02.01.14 # are you running as admin? 02.01.17 # yes 02.01.21 # ick! 02.01.28 # just restarted it, lets give it a shot 02.01.32 #>> "uses notices for his messages? =/" by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.01.35 # since it's a read error it may not even be the ipod at fault 02.01.38 # scorche: yep. 02.01.41 # I'd change that. :) 02.01.44 # yeah 02.01.50 # definitely 02.01.58 # sane errir L= 02.02.02 # same error* 02.02.12 # any other ideas? 02.02.39 # try a different usb port? 02.02.53 # tried that already 02.03.11 # DefineByte: will leave some "directories" to you :) 02.03.45 # how do you mean? 02.05.29 # if you want to rephrase some things, can't do that all now 02.07.03 # oh, okay. :D yeah, there is a lot 02.07.34 Quit zicho (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.09.09 # I forgot you were changing some of it. 02.09.50 Join countrymonkey [0] (i=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b573836f4c5883d) 02.09.50 # tried disabling any anti-virus? 02.10.25 # Any chance of the "DJ Feature" patch to be fixed and committed? I would really like the idea of it. 02.11.07 # wmpas: tried a different cable? 02.11.43 Join zicho [0] (n=martin@c-5f9fe355.68-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 02.12.15 # yup 02.12.23 # i doubt its the connection. 02.12.27 # preglow: still around? 02.12.29 # maybe i'll try using ktrace :\ 02.12.31 # barely 02.12.57 # preglow, I didn't know you spoke norsk 02.13.02 # countrymonkey: well, i am norsk... 02.13.48 # re. the system_options.tex: I'll introduce some more options to use for \opt or \opt some of the available settings better 02.14.07 # pixelma: well, sounds good 02.14.19 # just saw that you excluded some things for the nano... 02.14.25 # yeah, disk spindown 02.14.43 # i should do some measurements to see if i should kill dircache as well 02.14.44 # but the Sansas don't have it too and stuff 02.14.54 # pixelma: ahh, right, just took what i knew of 02.15.03 # i'm still one of those devs with only two rockbox targets :) 02.15.06 Quit shadonic96 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.15.59 # the idea was to ideally make it parse the features.txt to these UseOptions that are in the platform files (and use those to exclude and include) 02.16.12 # that would indeed be ideal 02.16.21 Quit handmadematters () 02.16.45 # but will start introducing these options manually 02.16.55 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 02.17.55 Quit Soap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.19.16 # Is it okay for me to make a norsk voice ui? 02.19.55 Join Soap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.20.07 # what are some good alternatives to rockbox? 02.20.47 # countrymonkey: what do you mean? 02.20.52 # countrymonkey: translate the voice strings? 02.21.06 # I guess you could try Ipod Linux but I wouldn't call it good 02.21.08 # countrymonkey: if so, sure, go ahead, i made a very small start when i updated the lang file the other day 02.22.02 # countrymonkey: features have been proposed before but little code has come from it. 02.22.03 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.22.38 # wmpas: this channel is about rockbox and rockbox only 02.22.42 # I mean add the voice strings. Just as a time-killer (since I don't speak norsk). I can use the dest strings and copy them over. It won't be perfect but at least blind norish people will be able to use it. 02.23.17 # countrymonkey: norwegian people :P 02.23.31 # last thing... can someone think of an improvement to this blob: "Bookmarks are saved on a per directory basis. In other words, all of the files in the same directory have their bookmarks stored together in the directory where the files are located."? 02.23.34 # countrymonkey: but sure, if you see an english voice string that should be norwegian, go ahead 02.23.44 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp-64-91-85-246.cam.centurytel.net) 02.23.57 # pixelma: damn, that was a bad sentence... 02.24.16 # pixelma: "Bookmarks are stored in the same directory as the files they reference" 02.24.19 # pixelma: i'd just use that 02.24.51 # I'm sory. I was standing in front of a woman speaking a language. I turned around and asked her what nationality she was and she said she was norish. 02.25.01 # unless that kick-ass sentence had some extra meaning i couldn't understand :P 02.25.29 # countrymonkey: never heard of "norish" 02.25.49 # oi... =) 02.27.12 # Well, that's what she called it. But if it is norwegian then it is norwegian. 02.27.23 # perhaps she was crazy .) 02.27.34 # lose the 'In other words...' 02.27.59 # I suppose. Thanks for correcting me. I plan to do both norsk translations. 02.29.30 # countrymonkey: might have been she just said "norsk" in a funny way, that might sound like "norish" 02.29.56 # preglow: I tried to figure the meaning out myself, and I think it has to do with bookmarks only working if your playlist consists files in one folder. I think it needs an additional step (saving a playlist first or something?) if you want to have a mixed directory bookmark... 02.30.22 # Is there a way "norsk" could sound like "norish"? 02.30.29 # sure 02.30.52 # that's what I remember but I seldom use bookmarking myself 02.31.13 # add a 'k' to norish and it'll sound the same 02.31.20 # pixelma: and i never use them 02.31.24 # i do but with the playlist catalog. save songs i like in the bookmarks.m3u8 hehe 02.31.25 # And, by the way, how do you say fm radio in norsk? It is untranslated. 02.31.33 # bah, my explanation didn't sound much better :| 02.31.48 # countrymonkey: fm-radio 02.32.21 # So it is translated corectly. I thought this was a mistake. 02.32.44 Quit mokkurkalve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.33.46 # nope 02.34.04 # i'm pretty sure all strings are translated, i even tried using my translation for a couple of hours :) 02.34.30 # haha, I should try it too ;) 02.37.15 # i should also try actually going to bed when i say i'm going to 02.37.16 # gnight 02.39.41 # It is only 5:39 P.M. 02.40.03 # countrymonkey: people live in different time zones than PST... 02.40.05 # time zones and over seas 02.40.42 # it's 2:40 AM in my time zone (and his) 02.41.02 # 0140 here 02.41.06 # i should go too 02.41.10 # its 7:41 PM here 02.41.41 # DefineByte: I'm off shortly too but would like to kick off the patch before 02.42.16 # O.K. Still working on that norsk voice ui. And than I have to do norsk. I won't be so bored anymore this weekend. 02.42.26 # I mean nynorsk 02.42.55 # Are there any patches needed testing? I have a sansa e260, ipod 5.5g and a gigabeat F 02.43.52 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@062016137025.customer.alfanett.no) 02.44.20 # do you think we'll ever get a manual that builds without errors (however minor)? x) 02.44.30 # I'm going to have dinner. Will be back. 02.47.20 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 02.47.26 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.50.34 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 02.56.41 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.58.29 Quit DrCrow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.58.45 Join DrCrow [0] (n=DrCrow@216-62-187.200720.adsl.tele2.no) 03.03.00 # night all 03.03.01 Quit DefineByte ("Leaving.") 03.11.25 Join lemur_ [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 03.12.09 # night too 03.12.30 Part pixelma 03.21.08 Quit neep ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.21.37 # Does anyone know wha the hell is happening with the Summer of Code project realtime text-to-speech? 03.24.05 # Summer of Code ended ages ago. It never happened. 03.24.15 # Real time text to speech never happened, that is. 03.27.16 # Unless you count 7660. 03.27.49 Quit lemur (Connection timed out) 03.29.39 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435403e9.dyn.optonline.net) 03.29.48 # That's not from the Google Summer of Code project though 03.30.10 # I know. 03.31.04 # just curious when gsoc 08 starts? 03.31.07 # Not to mention it's unusable in Rockbox, and nobody seems to be interested in doing the work to get a GPLv2 compatible version 03.32.46 # Gosh, I wish I knew where to find blind-accessible plugins *hint hint* 03.34.28 # Do they even exist? 03.34.37 # N. 03.34.38 # No. 03.34.41 # dont hint to what you want. just ask 03.34.54 # Other than one patch for chessbox, as far as I know, nobody has done the work 03.35.08 # Rockbox is, and again I repeat this, entirely developed by volunteers. 03.35.13 # If you want to see something happen, work on it. 03.36.00 # I understand. 03.36.06 # If I knew how to code i would code up a storm :) 03.36.43 # Me too. My old C stuff fell through the roof. Hey, I still remember some things though. 03.40.26 # I used to be ablet to code with a program called Qbasic. Is that the code rockbox uses? 03.40.57 # No they use good old C. And I can coad in basic too. 03.45.27 # I am trying to get my friends interested in rb but I cannot find a good selling point. What is a good starting point? 03.46.35 # Opensource and no iTunes type stuff. 03.47.02 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 03.48.01 Quit midgey (Client Quit) 03.48.12 # Also if you get bored of how it looks you can change the theme or even make your own. 03.48.16 # My friend is not techy at all. He doesn't understand the benefits of opensource vs proprietory coading. I am trying everything: themes, wpses, fonts, sound settings, everything. 03.48.43 # gapless 03.48.45 # Why not just show him your rockbox'd player? 03.49.11 # He uses mp3s. Those ain't gapless. 03.49.21 # crossfadding 03.49.34 # I tried that, too. 03.50.18 # hmm mp3s arent gapless? 03.50.28 Join l7 [0] (n=l7@evil-wire.org) 03.50.45 # Just show him your player and what it all can go. Play the games that come with rockbox. 03.50.56 # hey, has anyone had compatibility issues with e200 players in rockbox? 03.51.07 # replaygain 03.51.07 # 19 plus format support 03.51.07 # new lame encodings decoded in RB are 03.51.09 # with microsd cards that is 03.51.25 # if he uses shit mp3 downloaded from the net he's probably beyond salvation anyway.... 03.51.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.51.38 # what do you mean by "compatibility" ? 03.52.03 # mokkurkalve thats not true, if you get vbr mp3s, they arent bad 03.52.29 # psycho_maniac: like unexplained problems getting the card to work 03.53.11 # No nothing like that for me, well I dont use msd cards 03.53.35 # We have different targets. 03.55.26 # alienbiker99: mp3 is not a gapless format. However, newer lame encoders write info to the lame header that can be utilised by a properly written decoder to make gapless output. Formats like vorbis and musepack are naturally gapless. However, it still takes a properly written decoder, and most DAPs don't give gapless output of any format with original firmware 03.56.37 # oh i see. i knew that a lot of OF dont have gapless, i was gonna say that my mp3s play gaplessly. now i know why 03.56.40 # Does rb have that "properly written encoder?" 03.57.05 # I mean decoder 04.00.19 # alienbiker99: well, if your lucky you might get properly encoded mp3s. However, most of the stuff I've seen floating around the net seems to be encoded by cluless people. For full control, rip and encode yourself from original CD. Eg. lame -V 2 --vbr-new if your into mp3... 04.00.56 # Do the ipod4g and ipod5g differ in features? 04.01.03 Join ruinedtwice [0] (n=not@d154-20-48-110.bchsia.telus.net) 04.01.15 # RB decodes everything that can be decoded gaplessly gapless 04.03.35 # Do the ipod4g and ipod5g differ in features? 04.03.53 # Yes by a lot. 04.04.19 # What is the difference in featureset? 04.04.22 # Well maybe not. I jumped the gun. I was thinking of 3g and 5g. 04.04.45 # The info you want should be on the BuyersGuide on the wiki I think. 04.05.00 # Because I have a 4g gray and my friend has a 5g. 04.06.11 Join AK-Windows [0] (i=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net) 04.06.16 # hello 04.06.27 # hello AK-Windows 04.06.29 # Hey 04.06.55 # do you want an irc server just for rockbox? 04.07.26 # I think this is it isnt it? 04.07.34 # "server" 04.07.45 # This is a channel. openprojects.net is our server. 04.08.21 # oh, i'm using the java applet on the rockbox site 04.08.51 # me too 04.09.20 # how do I change channels? 04.09.53 # These are questions you would want to ask on an actual irc channel ABOUT irc. I would suggest to get an IRC client. 04.10.06 # This conversation is very offtopic also. 04.10.27 # k 04.10.35 # I would say. What were we talking about before this guy came on? 04.11.18 # meth? 04.11.51 # Nani? What? 04.13.07 Quit AK-Windows (Client Quit) 04.13.56 # so what were we talking about? 04.14.20 # I have no clue what that was about. 04.14.38 # What does meth mean? 04.16.16 # Maybe he thought we are a bunch of meth heads? 04.21.07 # I wish we had something to talk about. Can you think of anything? 04.21.30 Quit ruinedtwice () 04.24.42 # I wish rb could play 2 files at once. 04.25.09 Join midkay__ [0] (n=midkay@63-226-230-69.tukw.qwest.net) 04.25.23 # i wish rockbox would give me money when i won on the jackpot plugin ;) 04.26.30 # Which target do you have? And yes real money would be nice. 04.26.30 Join brian__ [0] (n=brian@c-67-163-86-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.26.48 # but my wish is more realistic 04.26.55 # Technically it CAN play two files at once. A song and a plugin :) 04.27.49 # I mean an mp3 and another mp3. An audiobook and music. You know. And if rb had a timer I would only need my ipod and weight equipment to do workouts. 04.28.10 # Why would you want to play 2 songs at once? 04.28.41 # song + audiobook = awesome 04.29.46 # hello rockboxers 04.30.26 # hellow brian. What's up? 04.31.34 # not much...im interested in developing for rockbox 04.32.06 # im reading the FAQs for devs on the site right now 04.32.34 # Do you know C? 04.33.10 # it's been a long time since i wrote in C or ASM 04.33.29 # Do you know another language? 04.34.39 # bascially i can say at this point im "familiar with C and ASM" meaning I can certainly read and understand C code but I couldnt develop anything huge with it...yet 04.35.02 # Do you know another language? 04.35.47 # yes...im a web developer...primarily LAMP (lot of PHP and MySQL) 04.35.53 # I mean verbal and written language. 04.36.05 # OH! 04.36.15 # i only know english 04.38.02 # nothing much to talk about 04.38.37 # That usually happens in this channel. Its really only for development 04.38.50 # psycho_maniac, er, no it's not. it's a user support channel too 04.38.59 # and support questions 04.39.16 # im reading alot on the site now...i just wanted to pop in and see what was going on and perhaps some inspiration 04.39.27 # get* 04.39.36 # brian__, you could check out some feature requests and see if you'd be up for tackling one 04.39.53 # will do 04.40.02 # One good one to start with is 8299 04.40.59 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.41.25 # I would ask the devs what patches they think is good to start working on and maybe get comitted 04.42.00 # But devland is here 04.42.16 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 04.44.16 # brian__: yeah take a look at the feature requests. Or find an itch of your own to scratch. 04.44.38 # make sure you can build Rockbox first though 04.44.39 # Does anyone know where I can find "fake language" rockbox lang files? 04.44.52 # countrymonkey, there were two on the wiki. 04.44.59 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.45.07 Quit midgey (Client Quit) 04.45.42 # Look in the irc log I posted it here last night 04.48.07 Join gromit` [0] (i=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 04.49.44 # safetydan: im compiling my cross-compiler right now...i've done it before on two other machines with no probs 04.51.24 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 04.55.09 Join Errant33 [0] (n=salvator@cpe-24-59-253-209.twcny.res.rr.com) 04.57.10 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 04.57.51 # Hi, everyone was wondering if i could ask some general questions about the channel becuase I am writing a paper for cyberculture on the rockbox community please private message me if you would like to help 04.59.56 # Errant33: there is a #rockbox-community channel that you may wish to join to disuss that sort of topic 05.00.16 # thank you very much 05.00.21 Nick blargit is now known as billytwowilly (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 05.01.15 Quit phr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.01.34 Quit l7 ("Lost terminal") 05.02.48 Quit uski ("Leaving") 05.03.46 Join phr [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 05.03.56 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.04.28 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 05.04.44 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5ADD.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.06.09 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 05.17.39 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 05.18.07 Quit brian__ () 05.22.29 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.25.42 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 05.28.11 Join hihihiflcl81pig [0] (i=4b47749f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6e16aed0cadfe6a7) 05.28.49 Quit shi () 05.29.18 # Hello, does anyone have any idea when or if rockbox is coming out for classic. 05.29.41 # no 05.30.25 # Ok, thank you. 05.30.34 Quit hihihiflcl81pig (Client Quit) 05.31.03 Join fenugrec [0] (n=ABC@206.167.203.215) 05.31.46 # could of saved tiem by looking on the main page 05.32.35 # people are always thinking there is some secret that's not to be found on the web 05.32.45 # but irc knows 05.35.07 # ...i guess 05.35.54 Part RockShox 05.37.55 Quit fenugrec ("Leaving") 05.50.23 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 05.50.53 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 05.51.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.55.37 Nick Billenium is now known as BilleniumZzZ (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 06.00.40 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 06.00.56 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A97CC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.10.41 Quit axionix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.16.15 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.19.24 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@207.155.176.3) 06.20.31 Quit sarixe ("(EE) Failed to load "quit" module") 06.20.36 # Is there any demand for any Gigabeat S testers? 06.22.17 # Had I the money, I'd buy a Gigabeat S, because I know Rockbox will eventually get ported to it (since the port is in the process, and they've got code running on it) 06.22.55 # (It'll just take time.) If I buy one now, then it will probably be easier to find now, than later. 06.23.19 # (Well, time and coding, and work, by those doing the port.) 06.23.45 # thats what i was thinking. Im looking on ebay now, but just looking 06.25.08 # psycho_maniac, i think the demand is for gigabeat s coders. 06.25.29 # Yeah I think thats the only reason why the port is stopped 06.26.28 # The S series also has fm radio. 06.26.56 # well the 60gb version 06.28.04 # And video out. 06.30.16 # * psycho_maniac is reading the gigabeat s port on the forums 06.32.55 # seems like at one point i see a S port. everybody that can code for the S is busy 06.33.34 Join BoBisChriS [0] (n=BoBisChr@adsl-75-30-181-33.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 06.33.39 # Yoooo 06.33.44 # im a n00b! 06.33.47 # help meh! 06.34.03 # ive got a 60 gig 5th gen iPod 06.34.25 # and the rockbox utility is up and running on my pc 06.34.28 # the installer that is 06.34.38 # now i select all the stuff right 06.34.49 # and it just sits there and doesnt move 06.36.19 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 06.38.07 # BoBisChriS, is your ipod in disk mode? that is, does it show up as a drive letter (assuming you're using windows) 06.38.14 # yeah 06.38.17 # it is 06.38.41 # what option do i pick for the install? 06.38.45 Quit BoBisChriS ("aGmIRCc 3.0 @ http://www.XdominionX.com") 06.38.56 Join BoBisAwaY [0] (n=BoBisChr@adsl-75-30-181-33.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 06.39.06 # my bad 06.39.14 Nick BoBisAwaY is now known as BoBisChriS (n=BoBisChr@adsl-75-30-181-33.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 06.39.32 # soo 06.39.33 # what option do i pick for the install? 06.39.50 # ««Away»» aGmIRCc 3.0 Time: «12/13/07@9:42pm» Pager: Off Logging: On. 06.39.51 # ««Back»» aGmIRCc 3.0 I've been away for 1sec 06.40.01 # BoBisChriS, please don't use scripts in here. 06.40.06 # sorry 06.40.13 # trying to get my client in line 06.40.20 # ok so 06.40.21 # have you read the install instructions in the manual? 06.40.26 # BoBisChriS: please read the channel guidelines...there are a number that you are violating... 06.40.34 # lol ok.. sorry 06.40.40 Join ackbahr [0] (n=jean@82.146.207.44) 06.41.16 # ok got it 06.41.30 # man.. i was violating alot of them wasnt i 06.41.34 # sorry about that people 06.41.48 # sooo.. yes. it is in disk mode 06.42.02 # when i click file, it says.. 06.42.18 # install rockbox utility on player 06.42.26 # what is that? is that the option that i want? 06.42.34 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.43.04 # BoBisChriS, you probably want the "complete installation" 06.43.13 # ok, when i do that.. 06.43.32 # it sits there with the blank progress scree 06.43.32 # n 06.43.38 # i'm not familiar with setting up rbutil on windows. 06.43.42 Quit psycho_maniac (" ---> insert smart/funny quote here <---") 06.43.51 # what are you farmiliar with? 06.44.00 Join hasmind [0] (n=hasmind@203.129.62.9) 06.44.01 # linux. 06.44.05 Part hasmind ("Leaving") 06.44.07 # k 06.44.09 # i figured 06.44.13 # sigh 06.44.18 # BoBisChriS, it should ask you what player you have and what drive letter it is. 06.44.24 # is this better than iPod Linux? 06.44.33 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 06.44.37 # no actually it didnt, i had to go to configure my self 06.44.42 # i did all that 06.45.05 # let me do it agian to be sure 06.45.21 # so you should be on the "quick start" tab that has two installation options. 06.45.30 # yeah i am 06.45.41 # then i click compleate 06.45.57 # and the progress window poppes up 06.46.04 # blank as a sheet of paper 06.46.17 # try performing a manual install as detailed in the manual 06.46.19 # Paper isn't necessarily blank. 06.46.23 # lol 06.46.25 # shush 06.46.45 # is it hard? 06.46.51 # not at all. 06.46.53 # Paper? Not usually. 06.47.01 # :P 06.47.02 # smart ass 06.47.03 # lol 06.47.10 # u remind me of em 06.47.11 # *me 06.47.32 # ok ill try that and be back with the results ^_^ 06.47.46 # It's probably the fact that I've nearly fallen asleep countless times already, and dropped the mouse on the floor once... 06.48.41 # BoBisChriS: for future reference, please pay special attention to the 5th guideline...paragraphs are much easier to read than 5 short messages 06.49.20 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 07.00.48 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 07.03.47 Quit safetydan ("Leaving.") 07.05.40 Quit ackbahr (Remote closed the connection) 07.07.36 # ok sooo 07.07.39 # im in it 07.07.53 # how do i go back to iPod Firmware? 07.08.54 # the manual tells you 07.09.24 Join freqmod__nx [0] (i=freqmod@dhcp208-90.ed.ntnu.no) 07.09.43 # would it be so hard to tell me? 07.10.04 # Would it be so hard to read the manual? 07.10.08 # yes 07.10.11 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@63-226-230-69.tukw.qwest.net) 07.10.12 # because i cant find it 07.10.19 # Search for "original firmware" 07.10.28 # you really cant find it from www.rockbox.org? 07.10.38 # the link that says "manual"? 07.10.54 # can i not boot to original firmware and still have rockbox installed? 07.11.10 # You can. It's in the manual 07.11.14 # ok 07.11.23 # i can not find it in the manual 07.11.29 # where in the manual is it? 07.11.34 # I told you what to search for 07.12.09 # ..there is no search box in the manual i am using 07.12.15 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html 07.12.27 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.12.44 # BoBisChriS, use ctrl+f 07.12.52 # use the PDF manual if you need to search the whole manual 07.12.56 # Or just read through it 07.13.06 # People ask us hundreds of questions a day which is why we wrote the manual 07.13.35 # yeah.. i feel u... but u should really make an html page with the entire manual on one page 07.13.45 # You don't magically get to be the one person we answer, and we can't be expected to answer all the questions because we have other things to do with our time. If you want help, use *your* time to get it, because no offense, we already donated a decent portion of ours to document everything 07.13.59 # yeah 07.14.02 # that would be a long page that would take a while to load...as well as being a pain to navigate 07.14.06 # i understand compleatly 07.15.11 # thanks... 07.15.13 # i found it 07.15.17 Quit freqmod_nx (Connection timed out) 07.15.19 # thank you for your time 07.16.01 # is there a way to change the default boot os? 07.16.11 # Not with the rockbox bootloader 07.16.15 # ok thanks 07.17.06 # sorry i was soo needy before 07.22.59 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 07.25.06 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@cpe-72-179-164-213.satx.res.rr.com) 07.25.10 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.25.29 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-189-189-253.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.27.04 Quit midkay__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.29.57 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 07.30.19 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 07.30.25 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 07.31.06 # is this better than iPod Linux? 07.32.20 # That depends on what you want. 07.32.50 # midkay_: come into -community 07.33.01 # well im interested in emulators 07.33.12 # like mame and gameboy and what not 07.33.41 # Rockbox has a Gameboy emulator. 07.33.50 # elghaspo! 07.33.53 # lol 07.33.56 # ipodlinux has more of that sort of thing, but if you want to speak about ipl, please join their channel 07.34.05 # ok thanks 07.34.14 # is it on this server? 07.34.24 # BoBisChriS: Check this link - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#General_Questions 07.35.17 Join RaRe [0] (n=Laffin_B@202-89-187-101.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) 07.35.18 # ok i have one question 07.35.43 # which can play Flac files.... iPod Linux, Or RockBox 07.36.31 # I would think both. I know Rockbox can, but I can't imagine that iPod Linux wouldn't have an application that could as well. 07.36.57 Join midkay__ [0] (n=midkay@63-226-230-69.tukw.qwest.net) 07.37.10 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 07.37.18 # GHASP! 07.37.46 # well rockbox wins with me... IF someone can tell me to make the flippin text bigger 07.37.47 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.37.56 # BoBisChriS: ipl isnt suited near as well as rockbox for audio playback 07.38.05 # BoBisChriS: that information is in the manual... 07.38.21 # scorche is correct on both accounts. 07.38.24 # sigh 07.38.27 # ok 07.38.58 # i hate reading 07.39.10 # you would have to read our responses 07.39.40 # Hate reading? What's wrong with you? (It's one of my favorite past-times!) 07.39.48 # ;p; 07.39.50 # **lol 07.40.00 # The reception is much better than wathching TV. 07.40.10 # i just dont like reading manuals and such 07.40.32 # espicially when i know that you guys can tell me the answer off the top of ur head 07.40.42 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.41.08 # yes...and we get asked the question many times a day...this is why we made the manual as has been explained before 07.41.16 # Some of us can't, and even if we could, it's *far* easier to read the manual, than it is to clog the channel's logs with information that's already covered elsewhere. 07.42.01 # the IrcGuidelines page explains our reasoning as well, as lists that you must read the FAQ and manual before asking for help here 07.42.21 Nick midkay__ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@63-226-230-69.tukw.qwest.net) 07.42.39 # yeah yeah and yeah... sorry agian 07.42.54 # i understand ur reasoning but disagree with it 07.42.56 # sorry 07.43.03 # Unfortunately, it's not your choice. 07.43.06 # i know 07.43.16 # which is why im sorry 07.43.22 # Don't be sorry. Just follow the guidelines. 07.43.27 # ok 07.43.42 # * Mouser_X isn't sorry. The manual is much more useful than asking everything here. 07.44.14 # ummm one thing i cant ask the manual 07.44.24 # the fonts for rockbox. 07.44.26 # it says this 07.44.49 # Rockbox can load fonts dynamically. Simply copy the .fnt file to the player and “play” it in the File Browser 07.44.58 # where do i get said .fnt file? 07.45.39 # that is also said int he manual 07.45.45 # sigh 07.45.46 # ok 07.46.05 # WHERE! 07.46.16 # search for fonts 07.46.17 # It was in the installation instructions... 07.48.08 # are these fonts in the zip larger than the default ones? 07.48.24 # try them and see 07.48.52 # now come on man,,, thats an easy question for someone like you 07.49.00 # ill do it tho 07.51.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.52.57 # wps files are themes? 07.53.16 # WPS files are While Playing Screens. 07.53.24 # Themes usually include a WPS. 07.53.31 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.53.39 # But it doesn't actually *have* to. 07.53.40 # whats a while playing screen? 07.53.53 # While Playing Screen. What do you think it does? 07.54.01 # is it a picture 07.54.07 # or a video 07.54.13 # (You have a music player... What does it do, While Playing music?) 07.54.16 # it is a screen... 07.54.23 # sigh 07.54.30 # a single screen? 07.54.31 # specifically the screen that displays when you are playing audio 07.54.39 # whatever 07.54.44 # does it say while playing screens? 07.54.49 # no 07.56.40 # BoBisChriS: If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. Just think of this as us trying to help you increase your skills in self-sufficiency. 07.57.06 # *self-reliance 07.57.12 # (I know how to spell that one.) 07.58.25 # yeah 07.59.11 # give a man help,,,, help him with gaining knoledge he only needs to gain once, and he is done, tell him where to find it, and be lazy 07.59.12 # lo 07.59.14 # lol 07.59.20 # thats how im lookin at it 07.59.26 # but i know thats not ur goal 07.59.33 # Then you're looking at it *ALL* wrong. 07.59.41 # i appreaciate ur time 07.59.47 # i know 07.59.59 # and i said i know thats not it 08.00.11 # sorry im being bitchy 08.00.17 # im just kinda havin a bad day 08.00.54 # Please don't take it out here, and please don't use the "ENTER" key as a "." 08.01.00 # BoBisChriS, please read the irc guidelines 08.01.01 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.01.19 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 08.01.55 # ok, sorry about scrolling on you guys like that, thats just a bad habbit of mine, you should see my aim chat logs lol 08.02.05 # no, we'd really rather not 08.02.14 # lol 08.02.27 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1607C.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.03.08 Quit midgey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.04.49 # sooo..... is there a way to change the font size? 08.05.04 Quit freqmod__nx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.05.11 Join freqmod__nx [0] (i=freqmod@dhcp208-90.ed.ntnu.no) 08.05.12 # didnt we just go over this? 08.05.23 # over what? 08.05.30 # font sizes?, no 08.05.58 # Yes, it's in the manual, and the manual *does* tell you how to do it. I remember reading it. 08.06.16 # You installed the font pack? Did you, you know, actually try them out? 08.06.32 # i did not install the font pack, no 08.06.44 # This could be the start of your problems. 08.07.04 # lol 08.08.45 # 18 minutes ago, you *said* you were going to install and try them... Or at the very least, this was deeply implied. 08.08.58 # *20 min. now. 08.11.45 # sorry 08.11.48 # i did 08.11.53 # anyways 08.12.00 # whats ur favorite Wps? 08.12.11 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-4-226.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.12.26 # * Mouser_X doesn't have an iPod. 08.12.44 # Thus, the WPS I like will most likely not be available for you. 08.12.51 # BoBisChriS: Seriously, you're still doing one and two word lines. Are we going to have to get rid of you to keep you from spamming the logs, or are you going to shape up? 08.15.39 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 08.16.12 # BoBisChriS, the themes are up to you.. so you have to look at them.. plus can you please read the irc guidelines again 08.16.32 # And actually abide by them this time? 08.17.45 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.18.07 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.18.51 # sorry.... sigh... like i said bad habbit 08.19.07 # well... anyways. im off to bed land lol sleep well everyone 08.19.25 # thank you very much for your time and help 08.19.51 Quit BoBisChriS ("THANK YOU!!") 08.20.28 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.22.54 Quit Errant33 (Remote closed the connection) 08.27.51 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.28.52 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.40.19 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp10-1.adsl.forthnet.gr) 08.44.35 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.45.05 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 08.45.09 Quit ptw419 () 08.45.13 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 08.47.37 Join LinusN [200] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.48.19 Join webguest07 [0] (i=c20b4f68@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-efc8164fbfc199e8) 08.48.46 # u guys know if a webbased irc client exist for other channels like this one ? 08.49.03 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 08.51.14 # webguest07: ircatwork.com 08.55.54 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.57.28 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 08.59.05 Quit webguest07 ("CGI:IRC") 09.00.09 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16E6A.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.06.36 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.14.04 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 09.18.38 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.20.48 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy14.netz.sbs.de) 09.26.53 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 09.29.09 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.33.34 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 09.44.12 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 09.51.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.16.48 Quit Tuplanolla (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.18.37 Join Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@a80-186-126-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 10.31.59 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl4-28-85.dsl.telepac.pt) 10.32.56 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 10.38.26 # With Nico_P's current work on the Gigabeat S we can now boot either the OF, or a rockbox.gigabeat image located in the 2nd partition depending on whether the hold switch is either on or off. Some speculation by ptw419 about why we can't make interrupts work on the S is that the OF interferes with the setup of the controller in some way. Nico also told me that we can, instead of using an nk.bin which has had our bootloader/bootloader.bin inserte 10.38.26 # d into it, use the nk.bin which is generated when you compile the bootloader. This is a standalone nk.bin, and does not contain the OF at all. This might make getting the interrupts working properly possible - but will also make life tedious while we try this out, since after sending this file to the S, the OF is no longer available at all - and therefore any sort of USB connection becomes impossible. That means that after trying something out, 10.38.27 # you have to use the reformat procedure on the device, which aliask said ended up bricking his original S after one too many uses. Would it be possible (perhaps) to strip out the OF from the original nk.bin, and save this as another file on the 2nd partition which our bootloader could then load? This would then make testing new code a lot less painful, and a lot less likely to brick the S (which would be very bad for most of us working on, give 10.38.32 # n how hard they are to come by.) Discuss. 10.40.10 # Is it necessary to strip down the of.bin you're keeping as a file on the second partition? 10.40.19 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@63-226-230-69.tukw.qwest.net) 10.40.42 # I've no idea 10.40.58 # possibly not 10.41.33 # the magic that makes dual booting possible is currently done in mknkboot at the moment 10.41.39 # and I'm afraid I don't really understand it 10.42.19 # It seems to me that if you could keep a spare full nk.bin on hand, that'd be nice. Both for dual boot, and for a "restore the original firmware" function like the Gigabeat F has, in case you realize everything else has gone wrong, and want to make one last attempt before reformatting. 10.42.49 # very true 10.44.04 # it just seemed that this was a natural extension of Nico's original idea of loading the rockbox.gigabeat file from disk, rather than from the hacked nk.bin file 10.44.27 # since (if I understand correctly) doing it this way would mean no part of the OF is loaded before we run our code 10.44.39 # Yeah, that much makes sense 10.44.47 # because at the moment, the rockbox bootloader runs after a lot of WM code has already run 10.45.32 # and while it's a nice idea - I lack the clue(c) necessary to implement it 10.49.46 Join notgod [0] (n=chatzill@c-67-180-39-179.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 10.52.19 # hey. I am trying to remove (uninstall) rockbox from my ipod photo. It's uninstalled, but sometimes when I reset my device I get a black on white screen telling me how to go into disk mode. How do I really completely uninstall RB? 10.52.34 Quit jmspeex ("さようăȘら") 10.52.41 # notgod: you need to uninstall the bootloader 10.52.43 # notgod: did you remove the bootloader too ? 10.52.59 # I couldn't find instructions on that. I will look again. 10.53.01 # thanks. 10.54.39 # notgod: the instructions are all in the manual 10.56.43 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 10.57.21 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.02.51 Quit Tuplanolla (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.03.44 # I guess I'll have to wait until jhMikes can have a look (or linuxstb reappears from wherever he's gone) 11.04.45 Join Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@a80-186-126-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 11.04.46 # GodEater_: thanks. I remember I did the uninstall and it said it was safe to leave the boot loader in there. but it's causing me a little grief. 11.04.48 #>> "seen" used by Zagor (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) [snoop prevented] 11.05.05 # that recent ? 11.05.09 # seems I've not seem him for weeks 11.05.15 # apparently 11.05.34 # Zagor: are you filtering the logbot actions from the irc log? 11.05.57 # petur: only those where I was forced to write a password in plain text (the nickserv commands) 11.06.20 # I guess most (all?) of the communication with the bot could be cut out as well 11.06.50 # yeah, but afaik I'd need to recompile the bot for that 11.07.04 # not used to recompiling things? :) 11.07.17 # perhaps, isn't there something that controls what's logged? 11.07.22 # it's a bit intimidating at first, but you'll get used to it ;) 11.07.22 # * Bagder can't remember 11.07.25 # it could be done when copying the log from current to datexxx 11.07.35 # yeah, it could be made in the rotation 11.07.36 # heh, I try to avoid recompiling 5+ year old binaries. bit rot is real. 11.07.43 # ouch 11.07.44 # don't 11.08.38 # actually this binary is only a little over three years old. but it sort of fits into the gray zone in my head anyway. 11.09.26 # yes, it should 11.09.38 # hmm, probably it's just three years since I copied it to this location. the compile should be 2001-ish 11.12.27 # let's not spend time on the bot 11.12.38 # the only function i want it to perform is logging anyway :> 11.12.45 # I started the curl project on the side when I worked on Dancer... 11.13.03 # now I can hardly remember anything about Dancer ;-) 11.13.20 # I'm bit rotting! 11.13.21 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 11.14.18 # we call it brain rot in humans :P 11.14.28 # you're flattering me ;-) 11.14.42 # and "the way she goes" in swedes ;) 11.14.50 # yeah preglow - how dare you suggest Bagder is human! :) 11.15.22 # hey, my wife tends to claim I'm more of a machine. But that's not in a good sense... 11.15.29 # let's try... 11.15.33 # well, machines are good at some tasks! 11.15.44 # Bagder explain rockbox 11.15.56 # autodestruct 11.16.00 # well, worth a shot 11.16.05 # haha 11.16.15 # rockbox is a cool gre (segmentation fault) 11.17.13 # preglow explain rockbox 11.27.15 Join tch [0] (n=opera@adsl-lib126-153-207-85.bluetone.cz) 11.27.51 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.104.218.58) 11.29.28 Nick tch is now known as telechips (n=opera@adsl-lib126-153-207-85.bluetone.cz) 11.30.17 # I always thought Telechips is Korean... 11.30.25 # :-P 11.30.38 Part telechips 11.32.04 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 11.32.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp260-175.adsl.forthnet.gr) 11.33.45 # perhaps this one also has datasheets 11.37.56 # Zagor: how's the USB code going? No time to work on it these days or just stuck? 11.38.35 Join phr_ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 11.40.33 Quit phr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.41.15 Join karl_ [0] (n=karl@c-24-11-144-123.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 11.41.42 # is Frozen Bubble 2.0 ported to rockbox, and if so, is there somewhere i can download an updated version? 11.42.01 # of bubbles.rock, i mean 11.42.25 # i haven't seen any bubbles updates 11.45.52 # me neither 11.46.22 # know how to find out who did the port originally so I can ask them nicely to port over the new version? 11.46.42 # check the name in the source code header 11.47.21 # Adam Boot 11.48.02 # rotator is his nick 11.48.47 # asking people for work is most often not working anyway 11.48.58 # i know 11.49.00 #>> "seen" used by LinusN (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) [snoop prevented] 11.49.41 # can't hurt to ask though 11.51.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.52.14 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.55.23 Join Rapp [0] (n=Rapp@suttner.informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) 11.55.48 # does rockbox support the sansa e260, which you find everywhere in electronic stores? 11.55.49 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 11.55.53 Join idnar_ [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 11.56.44 # negative 11.57.09 # Rapp: The e200 has been replaced by the e200v2 in most stores. If you can find the original version, it's supported, but the v2 is not 11.57.21 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955B876.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.57.33 # Llorean: and whats the difference between the e260 and the e200? 11.57.37 # and the e200 is still advertised as e200, so its not easy to know the diff 11.57.44 # e200 is the series 11.57.46 # ok 11.57.55 # e250 e260 e280 11.58.00 # and IF i had a v1, would rockbox support ogg with it? 11.58.05 # yes 11.58.05 # (vorbis) 11.58.10 # ok. 11.58.11 # perhaps we should call it e2xx like we do with the old irivers 11.58.32 # Rapp: it would support ALL the codecs which Rockbox has 11.58.38 # ok 11.58.52 # any chance that the v2 will be supported in the future? 11.59.03 # only if someone does the work 11.59.12 # sure, given enough time and effort from people who own v2s 11.59.17 # Bagder: There's an e270 as well. 11.59.22 # ok, but the hardware is known and possible to support? 11.59.24 # e2x0 then 11.59.39 # Rapp: there's a thread in the New Ports forum 11.59.48 # Rapp: well, there's initial work done but... 11.59.50 # GodEater_: ok. 11.59.58 Quit karl_ (Remote closed the connection) 12.00.12 # i wonder why sandisk et al. don't just use rockbox in the first place, and help with development... 12.00.14 # it was fun to figure out the checksum anyway ;-) 12.00.37 Quit Flemmard () 12.00.41 # i mean, other companies also use opensource software (e.g. linux) for their embedded devices... 12.01.02 # I actually mailed my sandisk guy to see if they can hint on something on the v2, now that they've changed things and we even have the data sheet 12.01.15 # Bagder: any joy ? 12.01.30 # or has the great hardware secrets blackhole swallowed your email ? 12.01.31 # nah, I mailed yday so I don't expect any response yet 12.01.36 # ah 12.01.43 # bagder any hope for the sansa view? 12.01.55 # less hope for that I'd say 12.02.00 # ah oh well 12.02.05 # even though we know the file format 12.02.21 # The View was using the new Nvidia/Portalplayer right? 12.02.22 # a fresh new PP to reverse engineeer 12.02.26 # yes 12.02.43 # do you use a hardware analyzer or anything like that, to do the reverse engineering? 12.02.54 # are there custom gate arrays etc in those players? 12.03.05 # the custom thing is the main SoC 12.03.24 # hmm they actually customize it per player ? 12.03.32 # or i guess there's rom code in there 12.03.45 # its not custom per player, but a custom chip with no available docs 12.03.57 # sigh 12.04.01 # and it's taken many years for us to even start being decent on the PP502x 12.04.17 # and that was with a fair bit of help from the ipodlinux guys 12.04.18 # and now they go with a PP6110, god knows what they did 12.04.26 # yeah this stuff sounds like an incredible amount of work, my hat is off to you guys 12.04.31 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@207.61.208.119) 12.05.22 # i'm tempted to buy another nex3 just to take it apart but i begin to feel like porting rockbox to it is too big a task for me to really think about 12.05.26 # the v2 series is a much better bet since we have the docs for that chip 12.05.45 # what about the m200? 12.05.50 # same chip 12.05.51 # m200 v2 has the same 12.05.55 # right 12.06.03 Quit idnar_ (Remote closed the connection) 12.06.05 # although m200 is even more confusing, since the old and the new m200 has the same name... 12.06.22 # yeah, i have an old m260 and it's great, i'd buy another one if i could run RB on it 12.06.30 # especially if they make an 8gb or 16gb version 12.06.52 # * GodEater_ thinks we aleady had this conversation... 12.07.06 # yeah 12.07.09 # haha 12.07.21 # i think it is the m200v4 that has the same chip 12.09.14 # v4?????? 12.09.37 # the firmware is v4 12.09.43 # oh 12.09.50 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/v2.html 12.09.58 # yeah i'm not sure what version mine is but it's a year or so old so it must have the old hardware 12.10.09 # right i saw that page 12.11.16 # it's now the #1 watched page on my site ;-) 12.11.19 # hehe 12.11.20 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964161.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.11.43 # people are praying at their little altars to Bagder that he'll magically make it all work 12.12.03 # yes, it seems they sit waiting that something will happen. And so do I! ;-) 12.12.19 # i wonder if there's much hope of being able to upgrade (increase) the amount of flash in these things? 12.12.23 Join idnar [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.12.44 # the e200 and c200 have microsd slots 12.12.45 # didn't someone do that with the Nano 1G once upon a time ? 12.12.49 # yeah 12.13.28 # phr_: even if you'd find replacement chips, I'm not sure the older m200 has a chip that can work with very large nand flashes 12.13.31 # because i just looked on the sandisk forums there is a m200v1, m200v2, m200v3, and m200v4 12.13.41 # well i'd buy a new m200 if i could upgrade it 12.14.15 # I guess replacing the flash would take some fairly good soldering skills 12.14.37 # or magic 12.14.41 # yeah 12.15.18 # i mostly use my soldering skills nad very seldom resort to magic 12.15.37 # i have a different idea which is taking my c240 apart and stuffing the board into a bigger box, with some aaa cells and a full sized (16gb) sdhc slot, if i can bring out the pins from the microsdhc connector 12.15.46 # 32gb sdhc cards are supposedly coming in a month or so 12.16.16 # this still has echoes of an old conversation... 12.16.18 # :) 12.16.19 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.16.30 # yay - Nico_P is here! 12.16.44 # wow what a warm welcome :) 12.16.51 # I guess I have logs to read 12.17.03 # yes please :) 12.17.29 # and then you can say "Great idea! It won't work because : " or "Great idea! I can't do it though" 12.17.43 # or better still "Greate idea! I'll get right on it" 12.18.06 # so i shouldn't buy an ipod mini and put in a cf card? 12.18.12 # Greate is similar to "great" only more so 12.18.49 # but the mini doesn't take AA batteries... 12.19.28 # GodEater_: at 10:38? 12.19.48 # yep 12.20.36 # godeater, yeah, true 12.20.51 # and it has a proprietary usb cable 12.20.53 # iirc 12.21.03 # I guess restoring an original nk.bin might be doable... as of the interrupt setup being changed by the OF, I'm afraid using a plain rockbox nk.bin without the OF in it won't change anything because that setup is probably done before 12.21.07 # but between using cf and running rockbox, the other stuff becomes tolerable 12.21.08 # in the parts that are in flash 12.21.11 # the Ondio taks AAAs :> 12.21.17 # ondio? 12.22.03 # Nico_P: Ah - I asked ptw419 whether he meant it was done by the stuff in flash - but he didn't think it was 12.22.10 # still perhaps worth a try though ? 12.22.10 # GodEater_: but I'm really not the best qualified person about this... linuxstb did the dual boot magic and I didn't even really try to understand it :/ 12.22.17 # hehe 12.22.18 # ok 12.22.27 # phr: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ArchosOndio ;) 12.22.32 # GodEater_: his guess is worth more than mine, so it could be worth trying, yeah 12.22.34 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 12.22.39 # rb site is hanging 12.22.58 # * GodEater_ wonders where linuxstb has gone 12.23.04 # phr_: not for me 12.23.19 # works now 12.23.26 # oh that's a real old player with 128mb 12.24.21 # i wonder how hard it is to build a player. someone on the wiki claims to be doing it but i wonder how serious they are 12.24.41 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54964161.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.24.55 # from what I can gather, the "person on the wiki" isn't being realistic about the cost involved 12.25.03 # he's not purchased any hardware yet at all 12.25.11 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.25.15 # i don't really care what it costs as long as it does the right thing 12.25.18 # it has an MMC slot and with Rockbox 4GB cards are supported 12.25.28 Join idnar [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.25.42 # some reason to not use sdhc? 12.25.43 # pixelma: you're referring to the Ondio yes ? 12.25.48 # yes 12.25.55 # oh cool, that helps some 12.26.07 # still, not sdhc 12.26.15 # I find forcing an sdhc card into an mmc slot rarely works ;) 12.26.23 # well the signals are different 12.26.27 # is 4gb the max for mmc? 12.26.46 Join zoople [0] (n=zoople@ppp121-45-51-228.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) 12.27.00 # hello ppl 12.27.06 # hi 12.27.11 # phr_: unfortunately yes, samsung announced 8GB over a year ago and they aren't available to the public yet 12.27.15 # GodEater_: aliask had started to investigate the setup done by the OF, but I don't know if he found anything interesting 12.27.48 # Nico_P: it's hard to say - it seems the wiki page went unloved for a long time 12.27.55 # does anyone know where u can get more apps and games that work with rockbox? 12.28.16 # yes, people (including me) don't write enough things down on the wiki paqge 12.28.36 # i've been thinking of trying to put an ssh client into my c240 12.28.41 # zoople: all the ones which are available for it are included in the zip file which you install 12.29.11 # ah ok 12.29.19 # yeah, they are all pretty good, Sukoku is my fave 12.29.34 # i got iBoy going too and that's pretty good even tho it's a tad slow 12.29.37 # hehe 12.30.02 # I think you mean Rockboy 12.30.15 # i think it was iboy 12.30.27 # I don't think it was 12.30.32 # ill check 12.30.33 # Rockbox doesn't have iBoy. 12.30.41 # ah ok, but i downloaded it 12.30.46 # im pretty sure, i could be mistaken 12.30.50 # Well, it doesn't run in Rockbox. 12.31.13 # ok, my mistake then 12.34.33 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet22.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.35.39 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.55 Quit scorche (Nick collision from services.) 12.36.01 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 12.36.10 Quit Galois (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.36.15 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 12.36.24 Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 12.36.25 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 12.38.05 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 12.40.18 # Do we still prefer "bootloader" to "boot loader"? 12.40.27 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.40.40 # in terms of the manual/ 12.40.43 # i believe bootloader is better, but then i'm not a native english speaker 12.41.23 Join lemur [0] (n=lemur@76.89.214.49) 12.41.23 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.41.32 # i prefer it too but I'm not sure it's correct. 12.41.34 # either is ok 12.41.40 # it may well be though/ 12.41.57 # okay, well I've got a patch sitting on the tracker for it. 12.42.03 # bootloader is better 12.42.13 # I think that "bootloader" doesn't qualify as a "real" word, but may as well be a legitimate term within the scope of the project, and see no reason we can't use it. 12.42.21 # i don't know if it's correct or not, but you only see "bootloader" 12.42.38 # FS#8323 if anyone wants to commit it. :) 12.42.44 # what's boot loading anyway? loading boot? 12.43.00 # How about "web site" verses "website"? 12.43.19 # there i'd be willing to go with what's deemed correct, users will know what either are 12.43.29 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.43.49 # I'm not sure if there is a 'correct' in computer lingo. :D 12.44.43 # according to Dictionary.com, it should be "boot loader" and "web site" or "web-site" 12.45.04 # bah, dictionary.com is pretty bad 12.45.09 # and it's American 12.45.17 # that's true 12.45.20 # I think using "bootloader" helps people know it's something we call "the bootloader" rather than some general software concept. 12.45.23 # web-site looks a bit bogus 12.45.32 # * karashata shrugs 12.45.40 # Also, my spellchecker (aspell) is happy with "website" at least. :-P 12.45.43 # boot loader, web site are probably more correct 12.45.43 # and for the eagle-eyed amongst you, I did mean 'versus' back there. 12.45.54 # i like bootloader ok, website not so much :) 12.46.09 # personally, I know what each is either way 12.46.16 # yeah 12.46.35 # * linuxstb missed the debate, but thinks the manual should use "folder" instead of "directory", as less technical users (who are almost certainly using Windows) will be more familiar with "folder", and everyone else will understand both. 12.46.48 # Agreed on that one 12.46.54 # I remember reading on the oxford English site that 'website' was generally preferred. 12.47.12 # While I prefer the term "directory", I usually give instructions with "folder" now because I used to get "What's a directory?" responses. 12.47.17 # i guess website is ok 12.47.21 # Llorean: Exactly... 12.47.23 # really? everyone was going with directory last time I asked. xD 12.47.29 # i think of folder as a windows term 12.47.33 # * Llorean wasn't here last time you asked. 12.47.35 # but i can live with it if it avoids confusion 12.47.53 # phr_: It's more of a windows term. But MacOS people are very likely to get it too, and Linux people are generally plenty clueful. 12.48.03 # yeah mac too 12.48.06 # linuxstb: could you check the logs from this morning please - 10:36 Swedish time 12.48.27 # I say keep it as directory and explain it in a glossary 12.48.39 # which I intend to compose at some point 12.48.41 # DefineByte: you get a vote when you do as much support as Llorean ;) 12.48.47 # GodEater: About the Gigabeat S? 12.48.57 # linuxstb: yes 12.49.08 # thanks for the dual boot stuff btw 12.49.11 # DefineByte: "Folder" is almost the modern replacement for "Directory" anyway 12.49.15 # DefineByte: Why not simply use a word _everyone_ will understand? 12.49.22 # I'm happy to go with whatever the consensus is. :) 12.49.46 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 12.49.52 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 12.50.59 # jhMikeS: did you get your S yet ? 12.51.03 # so "website" and "bootloader" aren't that important but we really should go with "folder"? Is that what we think? 12.51.24 # I'm happy to go with that 12.51.32 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 12.52.44 # GodEater_: I don't think using a "bootloader-only" nk.bin will help - IIUC, our bootloader code is executed _before_ the OF contained in nk.bin, so the OF is never run if we load a rockbox.gigabeat. The problem will be whatever the original firmware bootloader, which (again IIUC) is what loads nk.bin in the first place. 12.53.13 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 12.53.41 # linuxstb: so using the nk.bin which is generated by the bootloader compile (which I've not tried yet) will still show the windows mobile loading screen you think ? 12.54.14 # I guess so - it should look the same as the current dual-boot nk.bin. 12.54.28 # oh well - it was just a thought 12.54.31 # DefineByte: I've always seen them written "website" and "bootloader" (i.e. without spaces). 12.55.07 # I see them more often like that too 12.55.33 # GodEater_: yes, the windows mobile logo still show, but for a much shorter time 12.55.40 # * linuxstb asks google, and gets 277,000 hits for "bootloader" and 1,350,000 hits for "boot loader"... 12.55.59 # linuxstb: try "boot loader" 12.56.08 # I did... 12.56.13 # I got 2 mill for bootloader, 1.26 mill for "boot loader" 12.56.18 # with the quotation marks, that is 12.56.23 # I did... 12.56.26 # oh 12.56.35 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 12.56.41 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 12.56.53 # The "directory" patch has already been committed so does it need to be reversed or shall I just make another patch to change it (pixelma added her (female, right? x)) own changes on top as well though)? 12.56.55 Join idnar [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 12.57.07 # GodEater_: I think the interrupt setup is probably done in the OF's bootloader, eboot.bin 12.57.27 # Hmm, "bootloader" with quotes gives about 2 million.... 12.57.38 # * linuxstb didn't expect quotes to affect a search of a single word... 12.58.12 # can't imagine what quoting a single word does 12.58.49 # I didn't quote bootloader, and I got 2 million. 12.59.12 # * Llorean wonders how reliable the "about X results" bit is across multiple searches for the same term 12.59.13 # it seems when you don't quote it it brings up some results for "boot loader" too. 12.59.38 # Llorean: That's odd - if I don't quote bootloader, I get 277,000 and with quotes, get 2 million... Maybe some kind of odd caching 12.59.41 # yeah it'll get both 13.00.05 # I get exactly 10,000 more results without quotes 13.00.16 # erm, without 13.00.26 # erm, I already said that 13.00.32 # my brain is slowly dying 13.01.39 # I guess it's like when you search for "colour" and it brings up results for "color" too. 13.02.17 # DefineByte: yes, pixelma female 13.02.18 Quit lemur_ (Connection timed out) 13.02.40 # thanks. I never like to presume. :) 13.02.45 # linuxstb: so we should rename directory cache to folder cache, then? 13.02.54 # eheh 13.02.55 # we probably should rename it to something altogether different, though 13.02.57 # maybe 13.02.58 # * amiconn doesn't understand the interrupt problem on gigabeat S 13.03.04 # amiconn: interrupt problem+ 13.03.06 # ? <- 13.03.22 # Why would it matter whether the interrupts are set up by the OF or its bootloader? 13.03.53 # no idea 13.04.03 # amiconn: ptw419 speculates that something in the initialisation is stopping us using them 13.04.33 # I thought that if it was the OF doing it, we could remove it from the sequence so that the RB code wouldn't have to find a way around that 13.04.35 # It should work regardless of whether the interrupt controller is completely uninitalised or already initialised, as long as the final setup is correct 13.05.36 # what i should have stated, is that for AVIC to work the mcu must be *responding* to interrupts(which after much much work i can only assume is not happening) 13.05.38 # In fact I would expect it to be *easier* if the interrupt controller is pre-initialised, because then we only need to change the necessary things to get it running, as opposed to doing the complete setup 13.05.57 # ptw419> i think there could be a number of different things w/ the interrupts such as maybe timing, spurious interrupts w/ the OF, interrupt locking from the OF, maybe problems w/ the SCC, or maybe i just didn't get it right :) 13.06.02 # 13.07.00 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 13.07.18 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 13.07.25 # why does the of matter? 13.07.32 # do you interact with it in some crazy-ass way? 13.07.52 # preglow: How about "disk cache" ? 13.08.20 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host81-129-178-63.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) 13.08.23 # preglow: I'm really not qualified to say one way or the other - I'm just quoting what ptw419 told me 13.08.31 # he's the one to ask questions of I guess 13.08.33 # or aliask 13.08.44 Nick madspin is now known as Gigabeat_F_user (n=madspin@host81-129-178-63.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) 13.09.14 # Hi folks, excellent work on the latest build - one quick q - is there a way to completely clear the current playlist? 13.09.23 # I tried looking at the interrupt code yesterday - but got out of my depth almost immediately when I saw it was all in assembly code 13.09.54 # I've done this much assembley code --> <-- 13.10.32 # Gigabeat_F_user: Stop playback (not pause) and the playlist is considered cleared if you then insert something new. 13.10.47 # thanks Llorean 13.10.51 # although 13.11.06 # It is currently running a playlist but it wont stop 13.11.14 # Llorean: I think there was a discussion about folder vs. directory quite a while ago... wasn't a 100% sure of the outcome but thought it could at least be consistent. 13.11.42 # Gigabeat_F_user: What do you mean? Just press the A button. 13.11.50 # Llorean: no such joy 13.11.53 # Llorean: not POWER? 13.11.59 # Oh, Power. 13.12.03 # Right, A is "Pause" 13.12.11 # and I _think_ it really was directory which was preferred here last time 13.12.14 # I'm pretty sure we decided on directory but,hey, times change 13.12.21 # neither power nor A stop the playlist 13.12.22 # :( 13.12.29 # Gigabeat_F_user: what do they do? 13.12.30 # pixelma: So I hear. All I was saying is that my vote goes to "Folder" 13.12.37 # this is on the "Now Playing" screen 13.12.52 # Gigabeat_F_user: Are you using an official build of Rockbox? 13.12.57 # * petur reads BOFH and rolls a bit on the floor 13.13.12 # markun: they light up the screen, but then once the screen is lit they still don't affect the playing of the music 13.13.16 # certainly if directory confuses Windows users it may be best to go with folder. 13.13.20 # Gigabeat_F_user: Is Party Mode on? 13.13.21 # Llorean: yesterday's 13.13.29 # Llorean: yes party mode is on 13.13.30 # power works as stop here 13.13.38 # Gigabeat_F_user: Party Mode prevents pausing/stopping. 13.13.40 # Gigabeat_F_user: then turn it off ;) 13.13.45 # doh! 13.14.12 # Llorean: I have no strong opinion 13.14.18 # thanks guys, I think that must have been in the docs 13.14.19 # Why do I hear about so many people turning on party mode without knowing what it is? x) 13.14.23 # sorry to have troubled y'all :| 13.14.28 # pixelma: I've just been asked more "What's a directory" questions than "What's a folder" questions. 13.14.38 # DefineByte: Is it described in the manual? 13.14.49 # Or, more importantly, is it described _well_ in the manual? 13.15.03 # I don't know. I haven't looked outsite of the installation section 13.15.03 # Gigabeat_F_user: no problem :) 13.15.11 # outside/ 13.15.58 # Maybe it is confusing. One will have to look into that. :) 13.17.15 # DefineByte: that describes my usage scenario ! 13.17.25 # DefineByte: that sounds cool, let's turn it on! 13.19.41 # Heh, okay. 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"./dancer.seen" 13.51.50 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 13.53.45 Quit axionix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.55.02 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 13.56.19 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 14.01.04 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.02.25 Join Kahomono [0] (i=4a43b48d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9b6a2a4af9edb0f2) 14.02.53 # rockbox problem just cropped up 14.03.29 # powered on player, bookmark was at end of one song... started the next song and FROZE with "No codec for: " 14.03.43 # Can't break in to delete the offending file! 14.03.57 # which player? 14.04.05 # Tosh Gigabeat F 14.07.48 # So it's bricked at this point, I think. Won't respond to controls and powers on the same way even docked. 14.08.56 Join Matttix [0] (n=Hiu@89.148.53.43) 14.09.03 # please don't use the term 'bricked' when it just crashed... 14.09.09 Part Matttix 14.09.38 # fine, if it crashed and will not recover, what would you suggest? 14.09.54 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 14.10.18 # power cycle? 14.10.23 # did that 14.10.25 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.10.31 # flipped Batt switch 14.10.39 # when it comes back on, same thing 14.11.02 # reset settings? 14.11.26 # can't get it to go into Disk Drive mode 14.11.39 # it tries to come back playing a song even docked 14.12.37 # oho wait - taking it out of dock and plugging USB directly got it into disk mode 14.12.44 # OK I can recover from here. 14.12.57 # BTW does the manual cover adding new codecs? 14.13.04 # nngh, the c200 recording screen is really annoying 14.13.15 # rockbox comes with all codecs it supports 14.13.37 # hrm ok I have to remove the file that caused the problem then 14.14.05 # Kthxbai 14.14.11 # it might be interesting to provide this offending file for debugging 14.14.11 Quit Kahomono ("CGI:IRC") 14.14.24 # great.... 14.15.23 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.15.54 # can someone link me up to how prepare gcc on linux for compiling rockbox? 14.16.15 # from source ._. 14.16.32 # sure... there's a script that builds the crosscompilers 14.16.46 # where can i find it? :) 14.17.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 14.17.18 # it is called rockboxdev.sh 14.17.36 # great 14.17.37 # thanks 14.18.32 #>> "expadd CrossCompiler Use tools/rockboxdev.sh to build yours. Also see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler" by Zagor (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.18.47 # eh? 14.19.02 # sorry meant it to me a /msg 14.19.15 # also misses the '=' 14.19.21 # it's optional 14.19.25 # aha 14.20.32 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 14.20.58 Join idnar [0] (n=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.21.32 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 14.27.32 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 14.31.23 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 14.31.25 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.31.52 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.32.47 Join bistouri [0] (i=c2c7fca1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f4eb3ce47eed11cc) 14.33.17 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-253-46.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 14.34.11 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 14.34.13 # hi, i'd like to know if there's a way to speed up Rockboy plugin by removing nearly all others functions. You see that as possible ? 14.34.54 # and kudos to "PluginPictureFlow" plugin. Nice :) 14.35.11 # plugin > plugin dev 14.35.18 # bistouri: what other functions= 14.36.21 # Zagor: err, wps and code not useful to rockboy that may be loaded at Rockbox's startup ? 14.36.40 # that won't speed up rockboy 14.36.55 # ok, thanks 14.40.31 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.41.38 Quit idnar (Remote closed the connection) 14.43.35 Quit bistouri ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.44.16 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E1B4.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.45.59 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.49.19 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 14.49.22 Quit stewball (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.51.06 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.54.33 Nick j0tt is now known as jott (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 14.56.25 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 14.56.28 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 14.56.34 Quit idnar_ (Client Quit) 14.58.40 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.59.31 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@207.155.176.3) 15.00.10 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.226.132.45) 15.02.01 Join SamBouwer [0] (i=3ea3c862@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d16fb378ba44a52b) 15.02.40 Part SamBouwer 15.03.29 Join sammienator [0] (i=3ea3c862@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3ed6629a36871d0f) 15.06.02 Quit sammienator (Client Quit) 15.10.58 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 15.14.45 Quit phr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.17.22 Join phr_ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 15.18.38 Part LinusN 15.20.36 Join SamBouwer [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl) 15.22.45 # is it possible for the metadata reader to add further tracks? would be cool if playing a sid inserted all subtunes 15.25.49 # Zagor: can you have logbot just give his reply in the channel when you give him commands in the channel instead of using notices?...terribly annoying, those are 15.27.15 # scorche: I'm not sure. according to the docs it uses notices to avoid triggering auto-responses from other scripts and bots 15.27.42 # * scorche looks around for other scripts and bots 15.28.11 # it's not an issue for us. what I mean is I don't know if there's support for changing it. I don't find a setting for it. 15.28.21 # hey, does anyone know where I've to ask for WritePermission for the RockBoxWiki?? 15.28.25 # ...which brings us back to the recompile issue 15.28.33 # SamBouwer: yes you do 15.28.39 # the recompile issue? 15.28.50 # * scorche reads logs at work and hasnt gotten there yet 15.29.23 #>> "is a very old binary and I'm not sure how well the code likes new compilers and libraries" by Zagor (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 15.29.38 # then again it can't hurt trying 15.30.18 # SamBouwer: what Zagor means is - ask us :) 15.30.19 # compile logbot2 =) 15.30.27 # Ow, ok:) 15.30.43 # Can I have WritePermission for the RockBoxWiki? 15.30.45 # SamBouwer: Is that your wiki name too ? 15.30.50 # jep 15.30.55 # oh, I misread "where" as "if" 15.31.14 # the words are so similar visually :) 15.31.27 # :) 15.31.32 # SamBouwer: done ;) 15.31.45 # :D Thank you! 15.32.44 # we have a "JordanB" wiki user who needs deleting btw 15.32.49 # those who have the power 15.34.33 # there are more of those... 15.34.42 # probably 15.35.25 # LinusN was poking on a script for identifying all bad and abandoned pages a while ago. I wonder what happened to it. 15.44.04 Quit zicho (Remote closed the connection) 15.44.06 Join hannesd__ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 15.44.39 Join zicho [0] (n=martin@c-5f9fe355.68-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 15.47.51 Quit hannesd (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.50.35 # * Zagor swings the twiki axe 15.51.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.56.48 Join webguest91 [0] (i=45eb0d83@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-75ac4b6eee87d3be) 15.57.13 # hi 15.57.19 # is there anyone who can help me with a problem 15.57.32 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 15.57.50 # webguest91: only if you tell us your problem.. :-) 15.58.04 # haha 15.58.11 # i have the sandisk e250R 15.58.26 # i'm trying to copy "OF.mi4" into the "system" folder 15.58.29 # which is hidden folder 15.58.38 # but for some reason i'm not able to set my folders to show all hidden files 15.58.46 # it keeps reverting back to hide hidden 15.59.40 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallation 15.59.50 Quit madspin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.17 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-220-189.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 16.00.34 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.47 # webguest91: this folder is marked as hidden and as system i think, so you have to tell your OS to show both.. 16.00.50 # i'm going to try the other mode, hold on 16.01.34 # or just navigate into this folder via the adress bar in the explorer.. (just enter the path) 16.04.04 # Domonoky: how's the voice encoding stuff going? 16.04.37 # preglow: slowly, as i am missing the time.. maybe this weekend.. :-) 16.04.44 # sure, no rush, just wondering .) 16.04.46 # :) <- 16.05.47 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.07.49 # that guy isn't as charming with just one eye 16.08.01 Join axionix_ [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 16.08.23 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.08.35 # dang it 16.08.38 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.08.40 # i think i messed up 16.09.04 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13770.0 16.09.28 # i only loaded "pp5022.mi4" and didn't get to load "OF.mi4" 16.09.32 # and it ended up locking up my sansa 16.10.11 # hey nico_P, I added my screendumps to the pictureflow wikipage 16.10.33 # cool :) 16.10.59 # webguest91: what should this link tell us ? , and please tell us more detailed what doesnt work, and what you have done.. 16.11.38 # i couldn't get into the system folder like other people to place the of.mi4 file in there 16.11.56 # and stupid me unplugged it and now the sansa is not booting correctly 16.12.25 # i can't seem to get it to load back into manufactor mode so i can put the file in there 16.13.32 Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) 16.14.21 Quit H10_007quick (Client Quit) 16.15.08 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.16.37 # Bagder: The /mpeg folder on the download server. Is the intent of these for benchmarking, or for providing a sample video people can play to see what they can expect of their own videos? 16.17.51 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.164) 16.19.37 Quit axionix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.20.28 # or both 16.20.40 # Or both, yes. 16.21.05 # that is how they are used now I think 16.21.08 # I'm playing with encoding again, and was thinking about offering new samples of high quality, realistic quality, or both. 16.21.24 Quit madspin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.21.27 # Either way, the bitrates on the files on the download server are a good deal higher than they need to be, I think 16.22.40 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-220-189.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 16.23.36 # figured it out 16.23.42 # the wikipedia wasn't too clear for the rhapsody version =/ 16.24.05 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D35E.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.25.31 # hmm, is viewvc broken for someone else? I cannot watch one diff or file... 16.27.13 # are we allowed to edit the wikipedias? 16.27.31 # if you mean the rockbox wiki, then yes 16.27.31 # " or just navigate into this folder via the adress bar in the explorer.. (just enter the path)" 16.27.34 # you were write about that 16.27.36 # it's not actually a "wikipedia" 16.27.37 # right* 16.27.49 Quit axionix_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.28.01 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 16.30.10 # can i get wiki write permission? 16.31.09 # i just registered 16.31.16 # with what name ? 16.31.28 # jimmyc 16.31.32 # guess again 16.31.36 # you didn't read the rules on names 16.32.24 # ahhh sorry 16.32.33 # just didn't feel comfortable giving my last name 16.32.35 Quit animeloe ("Leaving") 16.32.40 # that's your choice of course 16.32.42 # but if you don't 16.32.46 # we won't give you access 16.33.06 # yeah that's fine, i'll just post in the forum, hopefully people will see it 16.33.08 # thanks anyways 16.33.21 # static information doesn't go in the forum 16.33.36 # i mean i found someone with similar problem 16.34.04 # haha nvm i just won't post anything 16.34.05 # got my rockbox working 16.34.12 # that's all that matters, thanks 16.34.26 # very community spirited of you 16.34.40 # haha 16.35.35 Join animeloe [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 16.35.47 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.104.218.58) 16.39.28 Quit stewball (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.46.51 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.47.10 Quit petur ("later") 16.47.33 # * scorche|w wonders what malicious deed someone can do with having a person's first and last name (not even properly written out) mentioned on the rockbox site... 16.49.17 Join jac0b-work [0] (n=jac0b-wo@155.109.5.244) 16.49.34 # can anyone suggest a frontend for ffmpeg 16.49.45 # WinFF 16.50.21 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.50.37 # no kubuntu 16.52.52 # Google it. It has a linux version, and even is available as a .deb I believe. Apt isn't the only way to get software. 16.53.43 # jac0b-work: frontend for ffmpeg? 16.53.43 # ehh 16.53.45 # what about 'ffmpeg'? 16.53.56 # it's pretty easy to use... 16.54.12 # preglow: You can't queue multiple files for conversion as easily as with a graphical front end, though. 16.54.16 Quit notgod ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 16.54.26 # well I haven't tried it yet 16.55.03 # I encoded a video lastnite with mencoder and came out pretty bad 16.55.14 # so I want to try a different program 16.55.19 # mencoder should use the same libraries as ffmpeg. 16.56.29 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.56.53 # hmm so ffmpeg is basiclly the same as mencoder 16.57.37 # If it came out looking bad, you either have higher expectations from the relatively poor screens on the player, or you chose bad settings, I'd say. 16.57.40 Quit webguest91 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.57.59 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 16.58.21 # preglow: what do you think about this patch to rbspeex ?? http://viewsource.de/view/b4b18aec063a050f471f69a465428b0e328e07dhttp://viewsource.de/view/b4b18aec063a050f471f69a465428b0e328e07df 16.58.22 # should I lower the bitrate of the video 16.58.33 # Lowering the bitrate makes quality worse... 16.59.26 # well the image quality was fine it was the freezing 17.01.07 # What player do you have, and what framerate did you set when encoding? 17.01.14 # Domonoky: is this just splitting files up, or have you done some other stuff too? 17.01.16 # gigabeat f 17.01.23 Quit maxkelley (Connection timed out) 17.01.31 # preglow: only splitting.. 17.01.33 # bitrate 800 17.02.00 # Domonoky: looks good to me 17.02.13 # preglow: http://viewsource.de/view/8dd5564b4953f8af89a2e34e85de6e7f37e394b4 even better, only building a librbspeex.a and not two libs.. 17.02.13 # The Gigabeat F should be able to handle 30fps fullscreen at 800kbps no problem. 17.02.17 # I copied the rest from the wiki for mencoder 17.02.38 # vmax_b_frames=16 17.02.44 # is that the framerate 17.02.47 # No 17.02.49 # Domonoky: also cool 17.03.22 # -ofps 25 17.03.25 # preglow: so i will commit it, as a step to the integration into rbutil... 17.03.28 # That would be it. 17.03.28 # thats it right 17.03.31 # Less than 30 so it should be fine. 17.04.10 # hmm I don't know then 17.04.19 # maybe I should try again 17.04.38 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@207.61.208.119) 17.05.01 # I personally just did a test with 1200kbps video, though widescreen not fullscreen, and it decoded at 59fps 17.05.17 # for the gigabeat 17.05.25 Quit XavierGr (Remote closed the connection) 17.05.30 # Yes. 17.05.42 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp260-175.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.05.48 # hi guys 17.05.55 # I am encoding the diggnation videos 17.05.58 # thank you for rockbox 17.06.04 # is there a preffered format 17.06.10 # Domonoky: go ahead, looks good 17.07.06 # I was using the wmv 17.07.18 # ahould I use the avi or m4v 17.07.26 # should* 17.07.31 # That shouldn't matter 17.07.32 # jac0b-work: rockbox plays only mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 video files 17.07.37 # Once you've converted it, the original format doesn't matter 17.07.46 # oh...you meant the original? 17.07.48 # oh okay 17.07.52 # Though mencoder may not handle WMV input well. 17.08.10 # But I assume you tested the .mpg file you got out of it to see if the problem was on-player, or bad file, right? 17.09.08 # yeah on the comp. it was fine but when I put it on the player it would freeze 17.10.03 # I will try a different format like their avi or m4v 17.10.07 Nick hannesd__ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 17.10.12 # I personally convert my videos at -qscale 6, which results in bitrates in the 300-400ish range for widescreen content. Dunno for fullscreen. 17.11.20 # what is that 17.12.59 # It's a different way of setting quality 17.15.02 # I will have to try some different stuff but thanks for the help 17.15.59 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@wlrsvd-151.njit.edu) 17.16.13 Quit jac0b-work ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 17.19.42 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 17.23.32 Join webguest18 [0] (i=c98dd46d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6b015c40f62e821f) 17.25.11 # hi, I'm looking for write access to post an fmr preset file... could anybody grant that? My username is FedericoOReilly 17.30.12 # sure, just a second 17.31.13 # you should be all set. 17.33.02 # thanks a bunch bro 17.33.23 # any pointers on editing and not messing things up? 17.35.54 # OK, it's probably not difficult, it's a wiki... 17.36.01 # Thanks and cheers. 17.36.05 Quit webguest18 ("CGI:IRC") 17.37.41 # jhMikeS: Still interested in mpeg files that play out of sync, or should those wait on the rework you talk about from time to time to see if that fixes them? 17.37.45 Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@79.126.188.252) 17.39.45 # if anyone could upload a screendump of Picture Flow on Sansa for the wiki (i don't have access), here's a link to it: http://www.box.net/shared/taz19b3lvk 17.40.10 # jhMikeS: Nevermind, I was apparently trying a different file on my PC. Testing the one on my player, it's out of sync on the PC side too. 17.41.23 Quit SamBouwer () 17.42.43 Quit zicho ("*.net *.split") 17.43.05 Join zicho [0] (n=martin@c-5f9fe355.68-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.48.24 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 17.48.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp144-137.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.49.16 # Jeton: why not sign up and get access then ? 17.49.44 # uhm ,i've never used the Rockbox wiki. I'm afraid i might screw up something... 17.49.58 # it's not too tough, if you read the guide... 17.50.21 # okay. 17.50.47 # besides, the wiki maintains a revision history, so we can go back if you *do* manage to break it 17.51.43 # ah. that's comforting then :) 17.51.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.52.23 # * GodEater_ goes to the pub. Again. :) 17.54.42 # shut up! 17.59.12 # it seems i need access to edit the page : Access check on Main.PluginPictureFlow failed. Action "change": access not allowed on web. 17.59.44 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-149-147.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 18.00.36 # * scorche|w wonders what is so easy to miss about red, bolded text 18.01.55 # * Jeton is looking for a red, bolded text and can't find it 18.04.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration 18.04.58 # * Jeton is now Asking for Wiki write permission 18.05.33 Part toffe82 18.05.35 # for the PictureFlow wiki page , to add a screendump of the plugin on Sansa. 18.09.00 # is there an easy way to grab covers on linux ? 18.09.44 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 18.12.29 # axio: amarok maybe? 18.12.31 # Axio, there is, actually, but the page is down and i haven't rehosted the binaries for the program 18.13.31 # ok thanks 18.13.58 # Jeton, i have a script for amarok but i don't know how it works : / 18.14.10 # Axio, i'm actually rehosting them now 18.14.48 # Axio, http://biomoose.com/mirror/albumart/ 18.15.05 # cool ! ty 18.17.35 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.19.21 # krazykit, .deb and .gz are corrupted :o 18.25.27 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 18.27.06 # Axio, hm, lemme check it out 18.27.45 Quit Jeton ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 18.31.11 # Axio, it appears all the files are corrupt. archive.org must be broken :-/ 18.32.16 # :( i will try to find it 18.33.40 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2007121405]") 18.35.09 # Axio, you can get the source here: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/gentoo/distfiles/albumart-1.6.0.tar.gz 18.36.04 # Llorean: Hehe. I'm just happy to have faster frame-accurate seeking on an handheld device than the sloppy seeking on pretty much any media player for a PC :D 18.36.05 # krazykit, yeah i have it but i don't know how to compile/install it... 18.36.11 Join Sammienator [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl) 18.36.28 # Axio, then consult your distro's documentation ;-) 18.37.55 # jhMikeS: Apparently any time I encode my copy of Blade Runner to any format I tried (really only a few different mpeg2 settings, and mpeg4), the audio was out of sync with the video. Meanwhile, the clean VOB from the DVD was fine, and ffplay even played the .vob fine, and in sync. :( Something for me to figure out I guess. 18.40.16 Part pondlife ("Gone") 18.41.09 # Llorean: It uses audio timestamps for sync as any mpeg player with audio as time master so if sync is off there it's by far more likely the file. 18.42.03 # Well the original file I ripped from my DVD plays fine in ffplay, but when I use ffmpeg to encode it, the output I get is out of sync. It seems really odd. 18.42.12 # * jhMikeS tried reencoding the 320x240 ED clip with mplayer and it totally botched the sync 18.42.27 # mencoder even 18.42.52 # I transcoded the original 1080p ED with the same settings I tried using for Blade Runner and got a perfectly in sync clip. 18.43.10 # And a file 2/3 the size of the one hosted on download.rockbox.org 18.43.44 # Alway use B-frames for better quality and compression too. ED has only I and P. 18.44.10 # I'm actually not sure if I'm using bframes. 18.44.38 # Hey, I wasn't. Hm. 18.44.55 # Well, it's a copout that makes an encoder look faster but lets it remain technically compliant. 18.45.29 # I'm using several settings I have no idea what do. 18.45.46 # I'd be sure to turn them on though along with frequent GOPs if possible. 18.46.05 # They were recommended for my mpeg4 encoding, and when I tried them with mpeg2 they didn't cause ffmpeg to explode, and lowered the bitrate at the same qscale 18.46.14 # I have -g 300 18.46.42 Part Sammienator 18.47.12 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.47.13 # Again, no clue what the value does, it was just the recommended value. 18.47.22 # And -bf 2 was what was recommended for bframes. 18.48.17 # that's a good setting...could do more if you want to wait longer. do they have an option for using open GOPs or is that done by default? 18.48.50 # There's a flag for closed gops, so I assume open by default? 18.49.10 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-25-197.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 18.49.26 # yeah, should be. closed are better for editing. 18.49.31 Join japc [0] (n=japc@194.65.5.235) 18.53.17 # I guess the only ones I don't know if apply to mpeg2 are trellised quantization and the "aic" flag. I kinda assumed I could copy and paste the parameters I was using elsewhere, and it'd explode on any of them it doesn't like, but considering 4mv is actually marked as "mpeg4" I guess it just ignored them on flags. 18.53.18 Join Kage [0] (n=delphiki@ppp-88-217-78-160.dynamic.mnet-online.de) 18.54.26 # Since I don't know what most of this means, I'm basically fumbling in the dark anyway. 18.55.24 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 18.56.08 # jhMikeS: hi! I was wondering, did you order an S in the end? 18.56.42 # should be coming 18.56.48 # awesome :) 18.57.31 # got lucky just in time and someone payed me a good chunk of change just to hook up a TV set :) 18.58.36 # haha lucky you :) 18.58.50 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 18.58.53 # don't forget to tell us when you get it ;) 18.59.44 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.59.46 # I don't know if toffe82 even sent it yet. He asked for my address a couple days ago. Didn't see a notice in my inbox. 19.02.11 # 60 or 30? 19.02.41 # Whatever he wanted to send me inexpensively. :p 19.03.40 Join low_light [0] (i=c730180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4d06a55a20b9cb03) 19.06.02 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 19.07.13 # jhMikeS: this simple patch seems to fix the c200 radio problems (with the lv24020)...http://rafb.net/p/F7sLKB80.html 19.07.32 # for whatever reason, some c200 tuners don't like that bit cleared 19.08.04 # I don't know if it does anything to the e200's 19.08.43 # which bit? 19.08.45 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@2.210-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 19.09.16 # ah 19.09.17 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-ONE-EIGHTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) 19.09.29 # Does retailos clear it? 19.09.31 # bit 5 = FM_DATA_PIN 19.09.42 # No 19.10.28 # It's probably safe to just leave them set for radio on all devices. perhaps the dodgey e200s hate it too? 19.11.22 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.11.23 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.11.26 # were the symptoms similar with radio not being detected all the time and such? 19.11.33 Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@79.126.189.42) 19.12.33 # jhMikeS: the main problem was it wouldn't tune properly 19.13.09 # I registered on the wiki of Rockbox, with the username JetonAliji , can someone give me write access? I want to post a screendump of PictureFlow on Sansa. 19.13.26 # Llorean: were the difficult e200s showing that too? 19.13.54 # jhMikeS: I think the tuner is powered up for detection purposes, then powered off. When you go back to the radio, it won't tune. 19.14.38 # I noticed that if_set and sd_set were 0 because tuner_measure was not was not working 19.15.06 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 19.15.10 # yeah, no measurement was possible for some reason 19.15.23 # jhMikeS: here's what the OF does...http://rafb.net/p/kFHSQN31.html 19.16.32 # jhMikeS: AFAIK, the difficulties with the e200 are either "when you tune, it's a bit off, like 0.05 hz beside where it should be" and "sometimes the radio isn't detected upon boot" 19.17.18 Quit madspin ("Leaving") 19.17.19 # .05Hz should be quite close enought :> 19.17.43 # jhMikeS: and here's the OF segment for power up (same as RB)...http://rafb.net/p/Lnw8mr64.html 19.18.13 # low_light: I admit I never looked at the retailos at all re: the radio. :p 19.20.01 # Looks like the outputs are kepts enabled for bit 4+5 and just set low for "off" 19.20.02 Quit roxfan[zzz] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.20.09 # I had the "not detected" in the beginning too om my c200 but that didn't happen for a longtime. But I had the frequencies off (muuuch more than 0.05 HZ ;) ) that happened regularly when playing some files before - was usually ok right after boot 19.20.13 # 3+4 rather 19.24.44 # the woot special doesn't seem to have FM trouble at all either. 19.25.28 # the OF has a check which will re-init the tuner...http://rafb.net/p/3hvEvx70.html 19.25.32 Join mexicankiller [0] (i=chatzill@189.156.233.119) 19.26.05 # hello,I'm back after ages that I haven't been here,too much changes in rockbox 19.26.14 Join axionix_ [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 19.27.16 # low_light: a retry? the ata driver has to do that for the main flash after inserting a card sometimes. interesting. 19.28.04 # jhMikeS: and it also checks for other chip_id's (although the datasheet says it should be 0x9)...http://rafb.net/p/jHMyFi40.html 19.28.12 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 19.29.21 # r4+6 = pointer out value for function? 19.29.31 # I've never had the problem of the tuner not showing up 19.29.55 Join fcukyou [0] (i=bd9ce977@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ac84f0d2a3b2c94) 19.30.01 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.30.06 Quit fcukyou (Client Quit) 19.30.18 # afaik noones had one that displayed symptoms of using a different chip ID. perhaps it 19.30.26 # 's generic code for different players? 19.30.54 # jhMikeS: I don't know what that value is used for 19.31.02 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 19.31.04 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 19.31.44 # we could save the chip id reported for the debug screen 19.33.34 Join webguest07 [0] (i=bd9ce977@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7b26a6f62ee46263) 19.33.37 Quit webguest07 (Client Quit) 19.33.41 # true...I seem to remember the original Ivan Zupan patch having that :\. Bah, put it in. 19.34.12 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 19.34.32 Join fcukyou [0] (i=bd9ce977@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5fcd0f8f1715734f) 19.34.42 # ummm... 19.34.45 # ummm... 19.34.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK fcukyou 19.34.49 # ummm... 19.34.55 # ummm... 19.35.05 # fcukyou, please stop spamming and change your nick to something inoffensive 19.35.06 # hey who is messing here? 19.35.20 # what happens? 19.35.24 # omg 19.35.43 # damn 19.35.46 # damn 19.35.47 *** Alert Mode level 1 19.35.47 # damn 19.35.48 *** Alert Mode level 2 19.35.48 # damn 19.35.50 *** Alert Mode level 3 19.35.50 # damn 19.35.51 *** Alert Mode level 4 19.35.51 # damn 19.35.52 *** Alert Mode level 5 19.35.52 # damn 19.35.54 *** Alert Mode level 6 19.35.54 # damn 19.35.55 # damnd 19.35.59 # damn 19.36.01 # damn 19.36.04 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.36.04 # * jhMikeS would have kicked by the 4th ummm... 19.36.04 *** Alert Mode level 7 19.36.04 # damn 19.36.28 # ummm... 19.37.01 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4B54.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.37.11 # its bloody freezing here 19.37.14 # grrrr... 19.37.21 # low_light: why not correct that register SNAFU re: STRAP_OPT_A and DEV_TIMING_1? 19.37.52 # low_light: while you're committing something. I hate making commits for reg names alone usually. 19.37.53 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 19.38.25 # umm... 19.38.26 Quit RaRe (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.38.50 # ummm... 19.38.52 # ummmm.. 19.38.54 # ummm... 19.38.57 # ummm... 19.39.00 # ummmm.. 19.39.02 # ummmm... 19.39.05 # ummmmm... 19.39.07 # ummmm... 19.39.12 # ummmmm... 19.39.27 # kick him please. 19.39.28 Quit axionix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.39.29 # scorche, preglow? 19.39.35 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche|w " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 19.39.38 Kick (#rockbox fcukyou :scorche|w) by scorche|w!n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche 19.39.38 *** Alert Mode level 8 19.39.54 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.40.03 Join fcukyou [0] (i=bd9ce977@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c39bde1f77cce8cd) 19.40.05 # bah...of course CGI:IRC chooses to lag up at that moment.. 19.40.35 # scorche whats going on? 19.40.35 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@wlrsvd-151.njit.edu) 19.40.59 # fcukyou: are you done, or do i need to go further? 19.41.49 # I'm going to log off,too much weirdness here 19.42.06 Quit mexicankiller ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 19.42.09 # mexicankiller: welcome to IRC...these things happen at times.. 19.42.23 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.42.40 Join mexicankiller [0] (i=chatzill@189.156.233.119) 19.42.59 # I'm back 19.43.08 # you were talking to me 19.43.16 # you may have to go further 19.43.23 # are you willing to follow our IRC guidelines? 19.43.27 # bye bye 19.43.31 Part fcukyou 19.43.40 Mode "#rockbox +b %*!*bdce977@* " by scorche|w (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.43.44 # * scorche|w shrugs 19.44.06 # so as I'm watching here,I see wirdness 19.44.14 # best way to answer that question fcukyou could have come up with :) 19.44.15 # *weirdness 19.44.29 # mexicankiller, it happens occasionally. it's normally not like that. 19.44.33 # mexicankiller: this is IRC...these things happen at times 19.44.37 # oh ok 19.44.59 # mexicankiller: that's nothing :) It's usually much more weird. 19.45.05 # happens ocassionally as an atomic bomb:P 19.46.02 # guys I still don't know how to code 19.46.19 # I just know about hardware things 19.47.28 # oh my 19.47.36 # I have to get set to go to school 19.47.40 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 19.47.41 # 12:47pm 19.47.42 # mexicankiller, please keep in mind this is an on-topic channel 19.47.46 # ok 19.47.55 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.48.04 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 19.48.21 # how I can get the memory modules for a sansa e250? 19.48.26 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 19.48.33 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 19.48.33 # it a not-off-topic channel at the very least :) 19.48.59 Mode "#rockbox -b %*!*bdce977@* " by scorche|w (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.49.08 Mode "#rockbox +b %*!*bd9ce977@* " by scorche|w (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.49.11 # mexicankiller, you mean the microSD cards? you can get them at any electronics store and various online retailers. 19.49.31 # nopes,I mean the memory module,where its the ram mounted 19.49.39 *** Alert Mode OFF 19.50.03 # mexicakiller: are you the one that broke it trying to pull it out like >= 3 months ago? 19.50.25 # *mexicankiller 19.50.42 # I am that 19.50.53 # and to worse the case 19.50.57 # jhMikeS: my time on a computer from which I can commit has been limited...and I forgot about that change 19.50.59 # I've lost the cable 19.51.15 # mexicankiller: so am i going to ban you too, or what? 19.51.27 # nopes 19.51.34 # ban me?,why? 19.51.38 # then why did you spam us? 19.51.41 # low_light: I just left it since I though you were going to do it :) 19.51.46 # uh...you = fcukyou 19.51.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.51.52 # nopes 19.52.01 # of course I'm not 19.52.10 # yes you are...CGI:IRC logs the IP 19.52.22 # I'm not 19.52.23 # i am not stupid 19.52.30 # you aren't of course 19.52.41 # but I haven't done anything bad 19.52.49 # alright...then do a conversion of the hex "bd9ce977" to IP 19.53.09 # you get 189.156.233.119 which just so happens to be the same as the one you are suing 19.53.17 # nopes 19.53.33 # * jhMikeS just reconnects his service and gets a whole new IP and uses it to cheat on things. :p 19.53.35 # lying to me isnt making you look any better 19.53.47 # I'm not lying 19.53.55 # if you can't trust me 19.54.00 # Then explain why you and he have the same IP address? 19.54.19 # mine ends with 112 19.54.33 # no, it doesnt 19.54.44 # [13:42:41] *** mexicankiller (i=chatzill@189.156.233.119) joined <-- try again pal... 19.55.01 # mine ends with 112 19.55.10 # * jhMikeS sees .119 too 19.55.12 # mexicankiller: No, it really doesn't. 19.55.16 # I'm looking now at cmd 19.55.33 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 19.56.00 # alright...goodbye then 19.56.34 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*chatzill@189.156.233.119 " by scorche|w (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.56.39 Kick (#rockbox mexicankiller :scorche|w) by scorche|w!n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche 19.57.16 # that is an easy ban to get around (ident ban), but i didnt want to ban a whole IP address just yet... 19.57.46 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 19.58.09 # scorche|w: especially since we don't know how many people have the same IP...wouldn't want to ban the wrong people. :p 19.58.10 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.58.45 # * scorche|w is glad he checked 19.59.17 # he was just acting too naive...it triggered my "something is wrong with this picture" nerve 19.59.51 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.00.01 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 20.00.13 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.00.46 Quit Jeton (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.00.57 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.04.29 # jhMikeS: you going to be around for the next hour or so and know how to use IRC commands? 20.05.54 # scorche|w: I'll be here. I'm not very familiar with IRC command yet however. 20.06.25 # jhMikeS, all you really need to know is /ban and /kick anyway :P 20.06.31 # * jhMikeS knows how to pester the logbot a bit 20.06.42 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 20.06.51 # jhMikeS: check the IrcAdministration wikipage...i have work to do, so am not going to be around (in case he gets around the ident ban) 20.06.58 Mode "#rockbox +o jhMikeS " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 20.07.08 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche|w " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 20.07.20 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 20.07.26 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 20.07.33 # that just gave me op priviliges? 20.07.36 # ah logbot... :) 20.07.44 # temporarily 20.08.00 #>> "explain logbot" by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.08.09 # ugh...notices... 20.08.13 # It has other funny responses 20.08.29 # I forgot how I made them come up 20.08.31 # * scorche|w is off to do work 20.09.42 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 20.10.09 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.10.36 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.12.36 Join omry [0] (n=omry@bzq-84-108-20-56.cablep.bezeqint.net) 20.12.56 # * jhMikeS goes to get some caffeine and nicotine for a moment 20.13.33 # hi all, I am using rockbox on sansa-e280. and I have a very long flight ahead of me. is there a way to temporarily boot into the original firmware (it's more energy efficient) ? 20.13.53 # yeah, hold the rewind key when booting 20.19.00 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 20.21.19 Nick BilleniumZzZ is now known as BIllenium (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 20.23.47 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@79.16.206.202) 20.27.37 Quit Rapp (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.27.37 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.27.44 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.27.44 NJoin Rapp [0] (n=Rapp@suttner.informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) 20.28.18 # preglow: i just commited integration of librbspeex and reworked encoder config for rbutil... :-) 20.28.50 # now the tts config should also be reworked the same way.. :-/ *more work* 20.30.41 # * jhMikeS keeps getting tracebacks when clicking file commit links on the front page :\ 20.31.13 # * Domonoky too 20.31.20 # Looks like viewvc is hosed 20.31.27 # yup 20.31.41 # Or rather, looks like a dependency got removed 20.31.49 # I asked if someone else gets that like 4 hours ago... at least I have an answer now :> 20.31.52 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.31.59 # petur: what else helped the problem with recording (since I can't see what was changed atm) 20.32.38 # some more spots where failed writing to a file caused an incorrect filesize 20.33.33 # so not recording specific but filesystem issues 20.33.52 # eek 20.34.05 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 20.34.18 # petur: no difficulty since the boosting changes I hope? 20.34.55 # or more accurately "caused by" :) 20.35.57 # have not seen anything go bad - my commit was only for the disk-full issue 20.36.26 # have done some shows without any glitch 20.36.43 # Make any batt life difference since it can sleep the processor? 20.36.49 # (trust me, you would have known by now if it was buggy) 20.37.09 # haha...ok :) 20.37.10 # haven't done recording batt benches 20.37.30 # it takes too long with this 2200mAh :) 20.50.14 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.53.44 Quit hannesd_ (Connection timed out) 20.53.51 Join kahrytan [0] (n=kahrytan@pool-71-176-44-155.nrflva.east.verizon.net) 20.54.20 # Is it possible to try rockbox and rollback original firmware? if not happy with it? 20.54.45 # kahrytan, yes it is. 20.54.49 # the original firmware isnt deleted 20.55.06 # Hows it work then? 20.55.41 # depends on your device 20.55.48 # that depends on your device...but rockbox is dual boot on most devices by default and is perfectly uninstallable 20.58.43 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 20.58.51 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.59.52 Quit kahrytan (Remote closed the connection) 21.01.44 # Domonoky: I couldn't compile rbutil 21.02.32 # Nico_P: you need to compile rbspeex in tools first.. :-) 21.03.50 # that doesn't seem to be my problem... looks like qt3's uic is being used 21.04.51 # ok, that was because I had run qmake in an attempt to make things work better, but after qmake-qt4 things still don't work 21.05.00 # Nico_P. rerun qmake, in rbutil and in the rbutilqt folder, and make sure you use qt4s qmake 21.05.30 # make clean; qmake-qt4; make is what I do... I get a complaint about encexescfgfrm.ui 21.05.44 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.05.58 # oh, maybe i missed to commit it ? me checks.. 21.06.58 # Nico_P: svn update and try again please.. 21.08.28 # talkfile.h:27:22: erreur: encoders.h : Aucun fichier ou rĂ©pertoire de ce type ("no such file or directory") 21.08.52 # * Domonoky missed more files .. :-/ 21.09.56 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.05 # * Domonoky hopes he got now all of them.. :-/ 21.11.28 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-TWO-EIGHTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) 21.11.56 # hmm the files seem to all be there but I get linking errors 21.12.21 Quit EspeonEefi (Client Quit) 21.12.48 # Nico_P: you built rbspeex before ? 21.13.21 # yes 21.13.49 # hm, so waht linking errors are there ? 21.13.57 # all in encoders.cpp 21.14.23 # they do seem to be related to rbspeexenc, but I double checked: I built it 21.14.53 # can you give me the errors in a pastebin ? 21.15.43 Quit Kage ("return(EXIT_SUCCESS);") 21.16.12 # yes 21.17.29 # http://pastebin.ca/816432 21.17.44 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-TWO-EIGHTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) 21.18.31 # it seem i cant access this pastebin :-/ 21.22.17 # http://rafb.net/p/o86qR693.html 21.23.04 Mode "#rockbox -o jhMikeS " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 21.23.48 Quit DrCrow ("Leaving") 21.23.50 # Domonoky: better? 21.24.07 # strange why does this work for me ? i will try it on linux... its not rbspeex, its a problem with vtable of EncBase 21.25.29 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.25.55 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5ADD.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.28.45 # * Domonoky can also compile it on linux without problems.. 21.28.56 Quit zylche (Remote closed the connection) 21.29.23 Quit karashata (" Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 21.31.08 Quit omry (Remote closed the connection) 21.34.21 Join maxkelley [0] (n=max@cpe-74-69-17-126.rochester.res.rr.com) 21.35.57 # Nico_P: can you try removing the destructor of EncBase in encoders.h and recompile ? 21.42.44 # I'll try that 21.43.40 Quit petur ("switching") 21.43.49 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.44.16 # Domonoky: which one is the destructor? I'm not familiar with C°° 21.44.20 # or C++ 21.44.41 # virtual ~EncBase() 21.46.44 # I removed that from encoders.h... still the same errors 21.47.43 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 21.47.45 Quit Rapp (Remote closed the connection) 21.48.04 # then i also dont know, i cant reproduce it.. :-/ 21.48.41 # what's vtable? 21.49.56 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b2pre/2007121108]") 21.50.52 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 21.50.57 # are there any plans to make pictureflow do something? like when you click the album it goes to it or something? 21.51.20 # faemir: there's a patch in the queue that makes it show the tracklist 21.51.39 # oh cool 21.51.46 # it's just pretty and all, but doesn't do much XD 21.51.51 # with a very neat transition I might add 21.51.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.52.07 # Also - why are loads of my .bmps unreadable by the plugin? 21.52.50 # no idea... I'd need a little more detail 21.54.02 Join Sammienator [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl) 21.55.08 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.24 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.57.31 Part Sammienator 21.57.42 # Nico_P: a vtable is a table the compiler generates to handle inheritance 21.58.27 # right 21.58.41 # Nico_P: well when I make it load the images like 1/2 of them it says it cannot read them - that's all the info it gives 21.59.18 # faemir: maybe rebuild your DB and see if it improves things 21.59.33 # I did, it collected a few more 21.59.41 # hmm 21.59.59 # heh, I also managed to resize all my pictures to 75 x 75 instead of 100 x 100 so they look smaller than normal :( 22.00.58 # faemir: are some of these bitmaps bigger than your screen? 22.01.06 # Nico_P: nope 22.01.13 Join Pio [0] (n=sean@h175.149.4.12.cable.frzr.cablerocket.net) 22.01.16 # all 75 x 75 22.01.17 # :| 22.03.39 # hmm there are a bunch of reasons read_bmp_file could fail 22.04.14 # could you send me one of the failing bitmaps? (I know it might be tough to find which fail, maybe try in the sim) 22.06.52 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@249-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 22.07.05 Quit DM| (Remote closed the connection) 22.13.40 Quit Siku () 22.14.45 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 22.17.02 Join l00kp [0] (n=l00kp@72.25.38.124.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 22.18.20 # Hey guys; I have a question about recording. Mind if I ask? 22.20.04 # just ask and you'll see if someone can answer 22.22.28 # What audio format does rockbox use to record? 22.22.37 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.53 # I read that rockbox supports recording with the ipods, but the format is unlisted. 22.24.03 # wav, aiff, wavpack and mp3 22.24.59 # Sweet. 22.25.35 # Woud the add on mic and line in ipod adapters work with rockbox? 22.26.17 Quit BIllenium ("Ex-Chat") 22.27.47 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.27.56 # ......? 22.28.07 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 22.28.25 # yes, you can use the line-in...please be patient when waiting for answers 22.28.34 # l00kp, please have patience when waiting for a reply. the wiki might tell you what peripherals specifically allow recording 22.29.12 # k 22.30.31 # Okay, I found the wiki link for ipod accessories, so I'm good. 22.30.50 # Thanks! 22.31.43 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-247-4.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 22.31.43 Quit l00kp (Remote closed the connection) 22.32.25 Quit alienbiker99 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.45.23 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 22.45.54 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 22.45.57 Join [Sur`DataGhost] [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) 22.48.23 Nick [Sur`DataGhost] is now known as DataGhost (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 22.48.40 Join Topy44 [0] (i=Topy44@92.227.133.241) 22.48.49 # hello 22.49.38 # i just upgraded my vmware player, and since i cannot get the rockbox vmware package to run anymore (kernel panic at startup) 22.49.43 # has anyone had that problem? 22.50.05 # (i realise this is more of a vmwave question, but other vm's seem to work fine) 22.50.16 # if it ain't broken, don't fix it... ;) 22.50.38 # yeah, i figured, should have kept the old vmware version :) 22.51.26 # Topy44: you could actually install some random distro and prepare it yourself 22.51.47 # guess i could... but i thought it might be a known problem 22.51.52 # run that script in the sources (rockboxdev.sh or something) and edit one line for the bashrc or whatever 22.52.30 # you could provide more infos like when it does panic 22.53.10 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 22.53.18 # most likely the new player does use other pseudo hardware and the kernel doesnt have the code compiled in 22.53.21 # Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... general protection fault blabla 22.53.50 # (and yes, i believe they changed something in the cpu emulation) 22.54.51 # i think i'll try installing an older vmware version first 22.55.16 # http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5464 22.55.21 # thats related 22.59.02 Quit MethoS- ("Konversation terminated!") 22.59.21 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 22.59.50 # hm... has anyone here successfuly launched the rockbox vmware package with any 2.x vmware version? (as the one linked from the rockbox page) 23.00.21 # as i cannot see any changes in the last few vmware versions that seem to be connected to the problem 23.01.50 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.02.14 # ah wth, i'll just revert back to 1.0.5 23.02.23 # at least that one works 23.04.54 Quit ender` (" "Why are we hiding from the police dad?" "They use EMACS, my son. We use vi".") 23.05.19 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 23.09.34 Part low_light 23.10.09 Join digitallo [0] (n=digitall@gsdt13.gradsch.ohio-state.edu) 23.11.32 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.40 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16E6A.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.12.21 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.12.52 # * Domonoky thinks again about voice generation in rbutil. But this would need the features file for every target and the .lang file aviable on the rockbox server... 23.14.15 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 23.14.59 Quit phr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.29 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 23.15.32 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp67-185.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.16.48 Join phr_ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 23.17.12 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 23.17.18 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.18.30 Quit axionix_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.18.43 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 23.20.50 Quit Soap () 23.21.23 # i am still thinking around if it is somehow possible to avoid the annoying noise the x5 records during hd-write 23.21.47 # (once a minute with wavpack 44khz stereo) 23.22.30 # if anyone has any ideas i might try implementing them... 23.23.36 # do you know what causes the noise? it is coupling through the power supply? or is it something like an unused audio input that picks it up? 23.24.22 # i believe its a hardware flaw, electrical interference from the harddisk leaking into the adc, but i dont know how specificly (not an expert at that) 23.25.12 # however i DID once take apart my x5 and try physicly shielding the hd from the circuit, no change at all, so its not a shielding problem 23.25.24 # line-in or mic? 23.25.35 # (sorry if my english sucks, its not my native language) 23.25.57 # line-in 23.27.03 # ok sounds like a hardware flaw 23.27.14 Join excitatory [0] (n=excitato@CPE-65-30-179-18.wi.res.rr.com) 23.27.23 # yes, so much is sure, as it happens with the original firmware aswell 23.27.35 # doesnt mean we cant make a workaround though :) 23.28.52 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 23.28.53 # what does the interference sound like, a click, buzz? 23.29.07 # i have an isolated recording of it if you want 23.29.12 # just a sec, i'll upload it 23.29.31 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 23.29.33 # (you wont hear it at normal volume, but since i usually amplify my recordings afterwards it gets annoying) 23.30.01 # to be honest, i think I can't really help you as I don't have the device myself, but at least i can help thinking about /analysing the problem 23.30.36 Join Soap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.30.45 # well, its... hm... buzzing 23.31.01 # it has a very specific character 23.31.13 # very high pitched 23.32.49 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.33.54 # one possibility i was thinking about - i suggested it about 6 months ago, but didnt get into actually doing anything - would be to try to write at high volumes 23.34.38 # as its only audible between tracks or very silent parts 23.35.23 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.36.38 # ok makes sense 23.36.58 Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) 23.38.07 # Barrywardell: hey I know that you have put alot of effort into the H10 build and getting it off the ground. I have just recently broken my h10 by means of dropping it. It seems the hard drive is not working 23.38.25 # Do you want it? 23.38.31 # would it be of any use to you? 23.38.56 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-76-187-15.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 23.39.16 # i think it might be quite a trick though, and i would probably be the only person really using it :) 23.39.32 # doesnt seem that many people really use the x5 for serious recording 23.40.05 # barrywardell: maybe you have an extra hard drive sitting around. I have the 5gb version 23.40.33 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-220-189.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 23.41.17 Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@79.126.190.245) 23.41.56 # anyone wiling to add me Write Access for the wiki ? I'm registered with this username: JetonAliji 23.44.44 Quit excitatory (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.44.58 Part digitallo 23.45.15 # anyone? 23.45.43 Join ZincAlloy [0] (i=d9eee378@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9dda4ba6019f57ca) 23.46.31 # hm... how much ram does rockbox use for buffering audio on recording between writes? 23.46.40 # as much as available? model specific? 23.47.11 # barrywardell: please send me a personal message on the forums at 007quick I have to go 23.47.35 Quit H10_007quick ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 23.48.53 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 23.49.20 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.51.26 # GodEater: you said this wasn't that complicated. It seems the access part is the most complicated one... 23.51.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.52.45 # Jeton: done! 23.52.58 # yay! 23.53.00 # thank you. 23.53.48 Quit Jeton ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 23.57.00 Join perrikwp_ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 23.58.19 # Bagder: something is broken with viewvc...